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QA Daniel Kawczyński, Ingritt Detter de Frankopan, House of Commons
also for the first time there to see my aunt and uncle the elite are domina there were tanks on the intersection of course we will remember as Matthew has alluded to the the grinding poverty in Poland because of the financially illiterate economic system that the Soviet Union imposed on us and the Orwellian a political system that we have as a result of Soviet intervention in our country so when I had a debate in the House of Commons recently I said to British members of parliament nobody it has more right to be an ting Russian and hostile and suspicious to the Russians than the Polish forum British Member of Parliament somebody whose own family suffer tremendously as a result of communists but in - term Asia it is when we don't have debates in the House of Commons when we make strategic errors and there is in this house as I suspect there is in the same universal condemnation hostility and antagonism towards Russia and her motives now that's fine we can all be suspicious but we can all be skeptic and all be antagonistic towards the Russians but in the parliamentary democracy we need a debate as we are having now as to what is sustainable and what is in the interests of our countries I want the approach to the Russians as a friend of mine refers to an iron fist in a velvet glove I want the island the Russians only understand strength if you negotiate with the Russians from a point of weakness they will eat you up alive so you have to be strong with them and the classic example of strength negotiating through strength is Norway and what that Norway has had with Russia I met with the Secretary General of NATO a few weeks ago with named Brussels in power and I said to him what are you going to do as the Secretary General of NATO to lower tensions with Russia and he referred to his time as Prime Minister of Norway and Norway managed a very effective of relationship with Russia from a position of strength a NATO country but still cooperating with Russia in the Arctic on scientific research fishing and other matters they were compartmentalizing the relationship with Russia and that is the critical word we can disagree with but from a practical practical perspective we need to maintain dialogue with them and compartmentalize the relationship the other thing having returned from San Petersburg just the other day I was just intrigued and how quickly until on our commercial plane flying out of San Petersburg to enter NATO airspace and of course that is Estonian airspace NATO has encroached ever further towards Russia and sometimes you know we need to take our own prejudices aside for a moment and think from their perspective they are genuinely fearful about the way nature is moving ever closer towards and they worry because they have been invaded on the number of occasions by European countries so I have no illusions about Russia but I believe passionately that we must protect Poland we must protect ourselves but we also must protect Poland and as I said at the outset one solution is a massive military buildup we can do what happened in the past in the 60s and 70s we can spend the ever increasing amounts of taxpayers money on building our ornaments nuclear weapons and the rest of it and we could have the Kaliningrad Peninsula and as the equivalent of the demarcation line between North and South Korea that is one option however it will be a very costly and if I think back to those the generation in the early 1980s the mid 1980s when I was a court and I think to myself how difficult the situation was with the Soviet Union in 1984 when Konstantin Chernenko was the general secretary of the communist party we were still engaging with them and in that year Reagan invited Gromyko for the first discussions in the White House and we invited Gorbachev for the first discussions at Chequers 1984 so I have no illusions about them but I want to have dialogue with them and I want to keep the lines of communication open the last thing I will say is Mr Hammond our Foreign Secretary said on the floor of the House of Commons the other day there's no point in talking to mr. Lavrov because we disagree with it on so many issues my goodness me the Russians are bound to disagree with us on so many different issues whether it's the Baltic States or whether it's Syria they think differently to us it's a different culture it's a different mindset it's a different history it's a different perspective but they are a permanent member of the UN Security Council and one of the greatest military powers on this planet and we have to show them the respect that they deserve and we must engage with them I'm sorry senator if you disagree with that perspective I respect you enormously but part of the democratic process is we must debate these issues because we must protect Poland and ensure that she is safe going for me I don't want to take up any more time on this subject I would like to point out of this debate one night I think potential if not a fully vindicates solution a possible ameliorating solution introduces second amendment opponent likes which would get every single household the great Russian law in historiography as well as in contemporary events from The Telegraph about how great a Russian citizen the Russian government was the global citizen and transparency they've been on what if there was no direct involvement I don't know what happened in small scale that's not my job to purport to know madam but they were so happy that it did happen and they were dancing these are the two that have tried to invade Russia on the johnstons well because is what I mean is I will select the question is but what I would like to say is just a very brief reply to that is that President Putin is seen in the House of Commons as a sort of pantomime villain and you know very senior member of somebody who's not going to be happy with what I'm going to say here but very senior member of the Darwin referred to me the other day as comrade Jin ski because I had initiated a debate on anger of Russian relations and he came up to me and he said how are you comrade captain the other issue is of course I would like to say for the record that I have never met nor would I ever take any money from the Russian government which is the other thing they like to throw at you if you were raising because this is what they throw at you if you try to remember in politics it takes them it takes a little bit of guts to raise things which are non fashionable people are like lemmings they will go in politics with with the flow and it's very easy to go with the flow and it's difficult to challenge and say actually you know is this in our interests is there an alternative can we can we discuss this can we can we look at alternatives and it is difficult and it's it's unfashionable to want to engage with Russia and people do call you comrade and they do suggest that you're taking money from them because the universal agreed perspective is that these are bad people with bad motives but the reality is they are there and we they are our neighbors that we've got to somehow resolve this situation because I don't want tensions rising and difficulties arising from them right but this isn't about Russia this is about engagement you know you do want to recognize they're there and dedicate yourself to a realpolitik strategy but you don't want to undermine their bad motives because there are bad motives you can talk to bars and emselves family or the families of the members of Riot I mean these are not this is not a society that you can say well they have a different value system but if that value system encroaches upon the freedom of their citizens and then all the citizens the mentality is very dangerous just before that can I just say when we were in Moscow one of the business people said to me isn't it ironic how we're bending over backwards to accommodate the Chinese
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What's Going On? (In Portugal & Beyond) Carl & Louisa take a look at the BIG PICTURE
[Music] in Portugal there's a YouTube show full of fun facts you need to know Carl rings the bell and the M show to the GM morning feature guests will come and they will blow your mind the audience will do so in kind the little vanity mix with some Insanity on the morning show with GMP good morning Portugal and I'd like to welcome you to another fantastic day hey [Music] gers OA Bond mson here with the good morning Portugal show live stream and podcast how are you doing this morning look at this on the bottom of the screen today scrolling past for your consideration and erudite contributions on the matter are we living through an OC defining moment uh here not just here in Portugal let me just turn down the studio volume just get still getting used to the new studio layout Mrs Z will be joining me to discuss this matter at 900 a.m. but are we living through an Epoch defining moment at this point in human history now humans might think that they are always doing that because it's a bit like trying to look in the mirror without seeing yourself you can't we can't we can't be perceiving something without being there and then we might have an overinflated or EX exaggerated sense of ourselves within that mix but would you think that um you're living in such a time and if you are as part of this community as a gumper somebody moving to or living in Portugal how does that or what impact can we make in that time how how will that affect us how can we affect it it's a big thought of the day Mrs M joining me at 9 to discuss among uh many other things as well this morning uh cat ownership um I've gone from owning no cats and never wanting to in my whole life to be being a government identified Bonafide cat owner I was going to say cat lover they can't make me but they um they seem to be making me a a cat owner with a little book that I'll show you a little bit later on I do have a nice sweet video of my um a new cat as it turns out wasn't expecting that as a plot twist um I've got a A V A little video to share with you in just a moment and I'll be telling you more about her said cat Jenny in a little while when Mrs M joins us who gave me a rude awakening not like that unfortunately she gave me a rude awakening this morning which I'll also be taking her to task about a little bit later on um so we got a few things to share with you not least um a two-minute taster from douge from silverish this morning um so he's not in silverish this morning he has been in silverish I think he might be heading back to the UK soon um he was in silverish recently and we still have wonderful videos coming from douge from his last few days here in Portugal which will all immortalize of course over on GMP vip.com learnabout portal.com um if you're a fan and let's face it who wouldn't be those two minute tasters a lovely one here in Portugal and if you're a fan of those and you want to review them and rewatch them if you're you're missing if you're not in Portugal and you're missing your algar fix you can do that with douge over at learnabout portugal. comom in his very own collection right cat video ready a video from Silver oh and one from Nazar from me the the other day as well those to come and of course you in the chat Pete's here with the baly alria 835 kilos of Olives picked in two days and delivered yesterday cream cracker I'm not surprised so maybe you can put your mind onto the existential question of the day then Pete given that your body is exhausted I wonder if your mind is too I I imagine you can still spare us a waffer thin opinion on this big deep thought of the day then I don't think we've got tck with us this morning taking another break are we living in and through an Epoch defining moment in human history as I said before we probably always think we are but are things especially spicy If This Were a recipe is there a little bit more Perry Perry in the mix than there would ordinarily be if we are living in an Epoch defining moment what does that mean for the people in this community the gumpas if you like moving to and living in Portugal at this time at this said time in human history let me know what you think about that um so yeah well done P 835 kilos of olive in just two days I I'm guessing you must have had a bit of help from the community bond gers from coach Turner at what 7:38 this morning D bye hoping all is well first training session for three weeks this afternoon so a relatively gentle start back on your marks take it easy and ease into it gently that's my new um starter order there God Squad tip of the day then I saw a post from the great Jamaican sprinter Johan Blake yesterday who said surround yourself with supportive people certainly in my experience training works best in small small groups we tend to organize ourselves like that don't we if we're lucky as human beings I think like a squad a squad a unit of about what six people is quite a good little unit isn't it family unit perhaps it's quite a lot of kids I guess isn't it but anything between um one one and six seems to be the the basic unit of community doesn't it depending on your circumstances and then beyond that it goes into twelves teams of that kind where the Dynamics change a little bit and then it's said I think um by that guy who wrote is it called species Johan whatever his name is who seems to have gone to the dark side um he wrote about human beings being able to identify a community of around 150 people and when it gets beyond that 100 120 150 people a village basically takes a village to raise a child does it not and I think it's quite good for human beings too but once it gets past that number that's when we start to get a little bit more fearful and rely on instincts other than our trust and um faith in other human beings around us but I think certainly the squad as in the god squad or the squad of a small group that Johan Blake might be referring to here is very supportive isn't it people you can count on bands of brothers and sisters so not only continues coach Turner do the individuals support each other but the competitive Spirit pushes them to better performances okay so not so few that it's lovey doy and everything's good and all supportive but just a little free son of competition as well in that Squad very good which I imagine an Olympic team is like that isn't it it also becomes an important social network and yeah you've got each other's backs haven't you you're pushing each other a fine balance of sort of challenging each other and supporting each other that's the basis of good friendship isn't it so finding an activity you enjoy that is part of a group will help enormously with motivating you to take part that is the biggest part of the challenge of starting the biggest part of the challenge of starting as you heard it here with Coach Turner this morning thank you very much for that Ian very good talking of groups small groups the Meetup tomorrow I think we're going to go back to taso T noasa in Sal depto I I would recommend to people who are coming along to San montinho tomorrow to head to the car park in CIO dep Porto and head there early uh and go for a walk and then come back Circle back to the restaurant why didn't I think of that before we might go up the hill we might go look at the chapel that overlooks the San martinho dep PTO Bay if some of us arrive early sort of 12ish uh go for a little walk and then come back to the restaurant who treated us very well actually and those that's one person and there may have been others he forgot to pay for his dessert went back so I think we'll be allowed in um tomorrow as well tomorrow Wednesday officially between 1 and three Nelson at Palmera is closed until the end of this month so we areum a little bit veent and uh looking for other options which we're taken as an opportunity rather than a threat so noasa in C dep Porto between 1 and 3 tomorrow I will see you there and maybe a little bit of walking keep an eye on the San martinho deporto WhatsApp alert Group which I think I've renamed now always changing things San martinho deporto gra Vine I think you'll know it as now if you keep an eye on that to see what's going on whether you're an active part of the group or you have some vicarious pleasure wherever you are in the universe keeping an eye on that as part of that group Cisco Kid yes I was going to go and listen to some um music more music by the band War yesterday didn't get round to it but I will do given that's your name of the week The Cisco Kid was a friend of slur bondus felos and thank you James for that incredible magnificent and somewhat poignant and sad picture of a a sa down redwood tree on Facebook mindful moment from you this morning nothing in the past is as powerful as what we choose to do in the present moment says Louise hey yeah like Louise Hay here well she made an incredible contribution didn't she to the world of um personal growth personal development and of course hers is the name the aonomus publishing company uh Hey house so um she is dearly departed oh yeah uh this this being the what are we are we on second Tuesday of the month I believe we are Mama Bear would ordinarily be with us can't be with us today uh we will make reference to some of the subject matter that Mama Bear tends to talk about on the death and dying here in Portugal um and some news that Mrs M wants to share from a friend which I hope it's I'll check with her before she shares that with us but it concerns people who have relatives in the UK and um a policy that a friend of ours sadly found out about um for herself through her own rather awkward and sad experience so hopefully Mrs M will be able to off to mute the mic up when she comes in and just ask her quickly if it's okay to share that of this point and I've got a little bit of an inmemoriam as well for Chris price uh who's uh the wine eccentric of course whose funeral I went to on Saturday last Saturday morning so I'd like to say a few words about Chris as well having been to his memorial service and Burial at the first of which I'd ever been to actually here in Portugal so a Viva is here thank you for that from that quote from Louise hey there the mindful moment thank you more of those please James mindful moments happy to take those I'm hearing a whining in the studio it's not just me oh it's Mrs M's hair dryer there was a time where if the haird dryer went on other appliances would go out in this in the house um I think we're rated at the highest if not the highest the next one down so that doesn't happen anymore that was quite the thing to get used to when we first moved to Portugal no toast and haird drying at the same time B I will be at my Portuguese lesson this morning so hello to you when you watch this later Aviva because I'm sure you'll have something to say about the big deep thought of the day are we living and living in and through an Epoch defining moment in human history I would love to hear your thoughts about that there it is on the screen for you now yeah see you later um let let us know also how it goes at your Portuguese lesson where have you got to with that dut is here bondal Gatos road trip today down for the Meetup on Wednesday yes I will see you I think we might have been there together Joel over on that side of the bay previously um I I think there's a few people getting together tomorrow between one and three looking forward to that to be honest says James it feels like more of the same to me re your question fair enough fair enough and I did I did um offer that as some kind of caveat um because it's only in asking it out loud to find out if I'm just firmly and only in my world of personal delusion um so thank you for that thank you very much James I wonder what others think about that Bond everyone yeah CU When you've been around the block or the Sun a few times and uh you know you're a bit long in the tooth I guess you'll have seen other things come and go that seem quite dramatic um and you know you get an overall a lifelong context don't you rather than um a partial one I'm not saying you're an old gfer James but I I think you have got a few years under your belt upon which to reflect upon and times that you've seen in history come and go is that why you say that I'm making a big assumption there all you everyone love looking at the wonderful picture of you and the Maestro the um Studio Maestro at work T duck lovely to see that Owen and um I'm thinking we're going to see you tomorrow as well you never own a cat yeah that's what I think coach Turner they own you so what so shouldn't a cat have a passport with my name on it rather than vice versa Shirley don't call me Shirley Shirley climate change is the biggest challenge for the world right now that's certainly Epoch defining uh yeah however you see that you know there are to set the scene and I'll talk more with Mr then when she arrives about this but yeah there is there is what's going on with the climate however you believe that I know there's a range of opinions on that but certainly things ain't what they used to be so there's a change there isn't there what's causing it is it it seems to be the matter of some debate and argument and downright um nastiness and polarity among people like a lot of other things geo geo what would they be then so climate geopolitical geophysical you know seismic literally seismic activity at the moment on a scale which we're not normally used to are we seems to be a bit of a peak in a certain number of markers that would have us or have me thinking were an Epoch defining moment and then I stay up really late and maybe it's you know being tired that does that to my mind I walked I walked the dogs really quite late last night went out to a beautiful sky and that was a really that was a wonderful um context and perspective bringer last night at around mid night or I I stayed up writing a newsletter until about 2 this morning and feel remarkably well on it and again that might just be delusion too I might be running on you know Vapors of um manic of manic energy um but the sky was so beautiful last night it was clear and crisp and a little shooting star um flew past in in the corner of my eye and I was I was humbled and inspired it's a wonderful feeling to have isn't it insignificant and magnificent to be part of this at all at the same time um so it for me there feels like there's something going on of course you know the last few years have been um unprecedented that was the word that was used um The New Normal you know getting life getting life getting used to life as it is now as it's been changed in this last couple of years I think there's something going on I know Mrs M does and she'll talk more about that and then I thought I was having some sort of ethereal biblical moment this morning with um a dawn chorus but more about that when Mrs M comes to join us at 9: as well Joanna to you good morning everyone I wish you a wonderful day thank you Joanna great to see you here um and yes lots of love to the team there in Lisbon um I wish there was a little more than p perryi in terms of spice in Portuguese Cuisine okay so Pete's scaling it down into Portuguese Cuisine rather than up into Epoch defining times recipe defining times for Peter in central Portugal I'm sure we're in a defining moment for plenty of us but here we are just enjoying jerpa and Chestnut so he's putting the magto into magnificence over there in central Portugal and enjoying the culture which I think is entirely appropriate I mean don't get me wrong Pete I don't think um we should be entirely focused on the E on the boundary and the external world and being worried and concerned about that I think we can do both can't we I think we can enjoy jerpa and chestnuts otherwise what's the point in being here as well as being aware of what's going on and what contribution we might make to that I'm sure you've got a view on British politics certainly from yesterday you glad to see David Cameron back in the British cabinet the Parliamentary cabinet Ola Ola that's that's got a nice ring to it isn't it you've got a nice ring to you there this morning we also enjoy proper olive oil yeah I didn't realize that a shop only needs 15% cold press first cold press oil to call it virgin and that our mush gets hot pressed after our pressing to give you the stuff um I think I know what you mean there Pete it's probably a typical kind of marketing Ploy isn't it where you think you're eating extra virgin olive oil and they only have to put a certain amount of it in and then mix it up with other additives in there to to Warrant the name and of course when you pick your own olives as you've done and press them and the video we showed of Jerry Lawler from xat Portugal from his garden as well it's the time of year of course isn't it for Olive picking and ing how lovely to be able to uh to be able to trust your local lagar to give you to take the olives there and then to go and get your five liter plastic flagons of olive oil and be able to pour that over your own food I'm just getting quite um feeling quite romantic and nutritionally um um I was going to say nutritionally well endowed that's not a comfortable metaphor or or description is it um it just sounds lovely basically being able to pour your own extra virgin olive oil over your own maybe over your own salad and tomatoes that you've grown as well Pete enjoy I noticed we've got some PE still peppers are growing in the garden Even in our Meer plot here we've got a couple of peppers to harvest I noticed the other day nature just keeps providing doesn't it it's you can't keep a good woman down talk I was talking about nature and also Mrs M who's now stroking my shoulders here and distracting me massively so you're going to be back with coffee in about 10 minutes that's what I was going to ask say do you want coffee yeah I'm not sure there's much milk Mrs M so I'll take mine black there is this all right I'll have mine milky there thank you all right that claims to be oil okay that was the the end of to give you the stuff that claims to be that's the end of Pete's comment there about how they can cut it up with other stuff in the um supermarkets it's always good isn't it to find a local provider who you can trust and it's not produced in some massive facility somewhere else on the Iberian Peninsula and then brought to us over here and I fell for it didn't I with one of those um try something Portuguese olive oils thank you for your help on that in when I did that recently and it had a lovely label that that made me feel warm and fuzzy like talking about Pete's extra virgin olive oil and I think it was actually made in a huge facility somewhere a lights out facility but I think um olive oil production has been checked a little bit recently hasn't it because we a few years ago we were talking about those horrific machines that harvested at night and they were killing birds in the trees and I think that those hopefully have been outlawed see you at the Meetup tomorrow excellent Owen see you there mate great to to know that you're coming along looking forward to seeing you there tomorrow just hope I get more than 7 kilos a liter rather than the 18 kgs uh that a liter that our neighbor got I will find out today I hope just hope I get more like seven grams a liter rather than um why is that oh I see right yeah working that backwards so does that depend on the species of olive then guess how plump and juicy they are and how well they lend themselves to to to the oil pressing process douy is back in the UK so I think we should celebrate with a two two-minute taster in just a moment thank you Doug for all your incredible Service uh while you just seeing your comments Steph white thought there was a funny smell in the studio um back in the UK we'll celebrate with your video of silverish and thanks for all the fish and all the videos Doug they will be in your collection at learnabout portugal. comom Big Tony you're right as usual but I think we left it a little late we have brind about half a ton wow and if we had harvested then I think we would have done better so is that Antonio saying to Pete giving him a bit of advice as a local few more days still a few more days to go right Steven White is in morning big cheese C your Grande thank you I'll go with that how's it going for you Stephen have you got um yeah hoping to see you soon um Stephen have you got any workshops or online webinars or anything like that coming you're always welcome to share them here um a very smart young fellow is Stephen I hope you don't I don't mean that in any patronizing way Stephen you are smart and you're young and you're a fell so I'm calling you a smart young fellow and I really admire what you're doing and how you encourage others into the world of property investment and development here in Portugal before we continue says Pete we will see what conversion we get from the Press I am not picking more if it is anything over oh I see very good Pete you're not just chucking everything in like an olive oil Casino you're you're doing a test first to see if it's worth pressing ing uh the rest of it and just you too you and Diane and one helper that's amazing Pete no wonder you're knacking mate um I think now is the best time to have dual citizenship okay so to the big question of the day then are we living in an Epoch defining moment and what does that mean to us those of us who are moving to living here in Portugal with the way bricks is gaining more followers and it's not just those what five countries there is it that's an alliance of more countries than um Brazil Russia India China It's s South Africa um I think the Western world is not going to be strong financially anymore that's a sobering thought isn't it and if that's true how do you prepare I think stevenh has some answers to that the only times I picked Olive says Antonio I was sweeping is that the right word sweeping the branches with a long stick to bring the olives down damn tiring and it was December or January so a late picking that's probably up north isn't it I imagine that's up in your beloved Taj up there isn't it Antonio it's more a general sense of slowly increasing apathy over time I attribute to a general sense of decreasing power to change anything um as we move forward yeah I'm I'm not suggesting you try and change anything either James you know I'm I'm very interested in what you have to say on this um I'm getting um top notes of apathy there uh from you possibly I'm sure you're very able to speak of a mental adjustment we might make to the to the situation if it indeed it is a a situation that we're talking about because that's the first part of the question isn't it are we actually living in an Epoch defining time and then you know you've got the the secondary part the supplementary part of that question should that prove to be true not me but the world in general okay so it's not you that's apathetic it's you that's your description of the world thank you James to good evening good what am I so okay yes so that's the four hours of sleep kicking in now isn't it good morning is what I meant to say bond amundo in almada this morning in thick fog soon sunshine to everyone I hope man it can clear very quickly can't it you're on the river there basically aren't you or near it in the estery tush your Esty in alada and and it can it can be a it can feel like another day it can go from autumn and winter into spring and summer in that part of the world that's for sure speaking of epoch defining moments rather the not adding to our conversation here this morning going to a friend's house in 1979 15 years old at the time and being shown his Apple too and this dangly bit he said was c a mouse yes I remember the first time I saw a video on a computer I was really taken back by it and I wonder if that Meme is still on the screen from yesterday but you know those pens with four colored inks in them I haven't no I still I haven't got it on the screen still but a pen with more than one color of ink in it that was that was amazing wasn't it ah Will Thompson is here um and I'm sure will has something to say about Epoch defining moments good morning to you will thank you for being here this morning Pete I am sure you know me by now we have an electric Tickler oh does that um is that a multitasking bit of Kit possibly or is it just for olives there Pete and a machine that pops the Nets around the tree and they fall into baskets and a machine why you knackered Then Pete sounds like the machines did it all yesterday um but best of all I have kind and generous friends who help pack it up and deliver it to the legar news just in Mrs M Pete's got a tickling electric tickler really yeah yes did you use that with I don't know I'm not going to say that out loud and hopefully he didn't hear that comment from from the side of the screen there um yes on November the 18th in lisman okay well give us oh that's a network give us more details Stephen or send them to me and I'll stick them up on the screen networking event for property entrepreneurs thank you Stephen I think this question has brought a few people to the screen who would not normally be here are you joining me now yeah okay would you like to grab my stool love okay we're just having a little bit of a move around we are now you don't want like the pile cushion do you that's it's not really a pile cushion is it okay right so we're just jigging around in the studio as we sometimes do we've got coffee to share a coffee why because there's not enough milk yeah you were right yes it's all right I won't gloat or anything like that so hold on a minute oh there she goes it's good nice to have a microphone isn't it yeah are you hearing yourself as well I sure am okay good I'm glad you're here this morning sadly uh Mama Bear MC can't be with us this morning um is it okay for you to talk about that bit of news you had um that came from a friend sure okay we won't say who the friend is no okay but let's come back to that after 9: then because I've got a few more hellos to do and a bit more Scene setting to do and we've also we've got to get the screen right haven't we get it balanced as well so if I move that way a little bit that's nice isn't it what do you think that's perfect you like is the lighting suitable for you Mrs it's it's good enough perfect so no oh it's perfect okay it's perfect it's good enough she says okay so Pete's tickling machine that's what we got to yes what is that about that's a nice picture he beautiful isn't it um those machines speed up the process and save money from employees but we'll ruin the trees in the long run yeah Pete there's always ups and downs in everything I thought you were you know when you were talking about I thought you were talking about some kind of an sumers machine don't be don't be V right so you're TI in the trees that's how Pete picks his um Plum plump little um fruits I wondered what you going to say then he's tickling his plump fruit uh such that it falls into a net um and then then can I'm pretty sure plump fruit has fallen into a net sounds like a Tor MP I I do not know how my plump fruit fell into a Passover by but I'm taking some time off to be with my family now yeah and look as Antonio says there's always ups and downs everything hey oh typical Mrs M turns up when it turns into carryon Portugal um Paul Williams is here Bond I hope to see you soon in San martinho de Porto lovely Misty morning here today in the pretty much dead center of um of Portugal Paul aren't you aren't you in the gravitational Center of Portugal didn't we have that conversation once upon a time ticklers are fine Tony it's the machines that shake the trees that damaged him okay so I think Pete is finding a sweet spot between some very vigorous Shake of um of the trunk um there's no way to talk about this a light a light tickling I I've put this question Mrs M that I'm hoping you'll go through with me and consider big deep thought of the day then are we living in and through an Epoch defining moment in human history that's why I called this you know what's going on as Marvin Gay once said um and if we are that because that's the important thing are we living in an Epoch defining time and if we are what does that mean for the people in this community moving to and living in Portugal of this time flipping it pull out the big guns why don't you well I'm yes that's no way to talk about yourself I can help James he remarked on a general sense of apathy um he less ability to change anything will Thompson is here I would also be apathetic but I can't be bothered dad joke there on the big thought day we discussed it before we discussed this in 2020 the fourth yes asort and myself have made a video and looked at the fourth turning I I think that pretty much captures as iist will loss of faith on captured institutions that's a pithy oneliner and I can go with that too Andrew bridon in an empty Parliament for example yes all of this adds to my um Echo chamber I mean he Andrew bridg was literally in an echo chamber wasn't he which then fed my echo chamber as a as a sign of what I think um is going on um I told you to watch Star oh don't get don't start um will I I I do try and watch Star Wars from time to time and the biggest takeaway as Mrs M is sick of hearing is I think the world is like the um the bar in Star Wars isn't it that's that's what the world is like it's full of people some of which you would like to sit and drink with and others who um have their arm cut off by a lightsaber metaphorically but you know when it gets a bit eggy in the bar I think I think that maybe the best we can help for is is a a peaceful coexistence and knowing where the boundaries are I need a long ruler um is Prince Charles not tall enough for you um okay it's a networking event in Lisbon then for Steven for people wanting to meet other investors contractors legal teams and accountants are you going to use that ruler to hit me point at something on the screen the comments I can't you you need a laser pointer don't you yes we have got one of those do we is it not in the kitchen okay um Annette sounds very accommodating if she can take 30 kilograms at a time getting in with the spirit of carry on Portugal this morning there you go so it's not just the five countries was I right about s being for South Africa the bricks Alliance a new kind of Empire is 32 countries 37 in total so that makes it bigger than the European uh EU block doesn't it oh cheers Pete I've got some pictures that have come through for harvesting of harvesting Pete uh Dy and Anette and wishing everyone well no matter what's happened what matters most is each other hold on to Community Will Thompson that is beautiful thank you very much will um much appreciated that sentiment there lots of love to you mate and nice to see you back on the screen here and yes right with you on that sentiment there m Em's coming with a wobbly careful um has that been in Internet hopefully not okay it's so that I can all right well I'll get to them in the end anyway be patient Sagittarian woman okay we're both on the screen with you this morning trying to first of all to establish if this is an Epoch defining moment um we'll come back to you in M take a quick breath in about to answer that I got a couple of videos to play thanks Doug for this let's have a quick change of scene we're GNA pop to the AL two minute Tickler love lovely Jolly lovely [Music] boy good morning Portugal and it's a jolly fine morning right here in the AL G time for one of our 2 minute [Music] tasters ha it do it never fails to Fascinate doesn't it all the artifacts that they managed to find and some of them in such amazing order haa silly ha Sil ha [Music] Sil I love that tune so much that's made by a mate of mine in Sheffield in the UK um House of tonic and silly nicely mixed with your your images from Silver there I think DJ mink is on that track too I'll have to find out more maybe get Krick on the show but that is our current tune of the moment and nicely woven into the pictures of Sil there more to come from Doug in the next few days thank you for all the two-minute tasters and it's a jolly fine one as well Jolly Fine Collection of two-minute tasers over at learn about portugal. comom speaking of Misty moisty mornings it's a perfect time for the old mother Goose poem go know that are you going to phone in and do that for usel D heading out says Owen for a mini tour of lib with the wonderful ktia Beyond Lisbon Lima oh that sounds good doesn't it have a great day everyone excellent stuff see you see you tomorrow okay um I also have a cat video now Mrs M and some well maybe do the nazer waves as literally a pallet cleanser if the conversation gets a little bit um so you've got some contingency videos in case time out no not in case you dry up in in case the conversation gets very spicy with you here but you will love you love this a video Bann this week didn't I yeah but well it got banned this week but you published it ages ago I published it three years ago you did didn't you okay so here's my cat video you wanted cat videos you get cat videos this is this happened this morning and there's more to say about this which I also also think is a sign of the times yeah I'm going to talk about that but first of all you need to see this beautiful creature my lovely cat okay we can talk over this now I've unmuted I think everyone can hear us this is the cat that just walked into our house one night yowling yeah and I I was the only one who had an affinity with her she looks very round still doesn't she she looks very pregnant yeah I think we should get her wormed just in case I mean she's obviously not pregnant she's been done everybody that's she's been SP maybe it's the hormone still working why why is she so L can you hear what she's looking at you know what she's looking at don't you from that tail movement she going to go leap out wind like cat do yeah she did actually what's she looking at did you hear that little oh yeah Portuguese cats what are they like oh look oh have I got clothes on no get it off you w I was in the bathroom naked was in the bathroom naked with a cat no it's not like that I can explain Big W the cat came into the bathroom are you going to tell him about no I want to find out for you I will I will come back I will come back to the the moment a terrifying moment when you have to sign for something from the local Authority Postman wants ID um and makes you sign and copies and photographs your ID and then gives you a document and you're thinking it's a subpoena or a summons to court for a fine I didn't you know like a fine you didn't know you hadn't paid exactly from 3 years ago and now it costs 700 euros or something with all the everything else on it and you've been called to court to pay it and face Justice wasn't that it turns out it was a cat passport but I I'll come back to that because I think it's a massive Liberty um and it's right what coach Turner says cats own you you don't own cat so the cat should have a passport with my face and name on it not the other way around okay Mr I'm hoping that cat's going to help us with re ification that's true if the cat's got a Portuguese passport does that not her Guardians very good I like the way you're thinking them and maybe it's a precedent others can follow as well Mrs M big question of the day deep big deep thought of the day I've kind of left you hanging there long enough considering this pondering this are we living in and through an Epoch defining moment in human history at the moment I don't know is my answer brilliant could have saved you so much time I mean my my immediate thought is um every like we we will never know because how can we compare it to other times right all we can compare it to is what we've been told has happened but given the amount of bullshittery that happens in the world right now familiar with that technical term um you know like when we when we find out stuff that you know hasn't been accurately portrayed by the media yeah and by governments and stuff like that well that's always why would you think nothing new there history that we've learned about in schools is actually accurate also oh so you're going there okay so how would I know if we we're living in the sort of like no well I don't you know me I'm not I'm not that interested in that sort of speculation I mean we've come into sorry to interrupt actually I'm not sorry but we've we've come we've all been born into this time whether we like it or not so exct I like to think of it as we're here anyway yes that's true so we need to make the most of what now you're talking now you're talking so you know you ask questions about um education politics and the media yeah and everyone's got a view on that which is quite different to we are here now I mean that's that's harder to argue isn't it let's let's let's make that assumption well I just I just think in um not withstanding some you know spiritual existential nuances we are here now I really honestly think within the next five years if not sooner I'm hoping in the next six months that everyone realizes or we all learn or there's some big reveal that um the news which we taken what's that long awaited moment disclosure you're talking about disclosure yeah but disclosure you know to some people sounds like you know the disclosure of alien life or something like that yeah but I'm talking about the disclosure of actually okay guilt is charged the news is actually entertainment but we knew that anyway didn't we do you mean disclosure in lots of people realizing that I mean um it sounds like sacrilege to say that but you know years ago people used to believe that WWF you know the World Wrestling Wrestling Federation and British wrestling yeah people used to think that that was legit and and it was really you know real what you saw was actually happening yes it wasn't rigged or and then and then and then not so long after we realized actually you know it's a big story it's a big show it is show I mean all these people are actors you know like people who you know are acting in um media and movies and stuff like that what makes you think that they're actually well they they movies for a reason AR we know it's the work of f we are we are surrounded like television we are surrounded by all sorts of images and for some reason we think some of it's entertainment then we think some of it's factual and then we think some of it's science and some of it's history and some of it's this that and the other compartmentalized knowledge of of our exist so like some of it we believe some of it we're entertained by some of it we think is actually an accurate depiction of what's going on in the world yeah and actually we might find out that it's all entertainment okay so that's that's that's what I think to you that yeah that's to me I'm not expecting everyone to agree with so if if if if that is true yeah and anthropologists of the future and historians see that that's true this would could be called the uh the tanaz zone or something like that no no it would be something um the Louis aonic era no no no cuz I'm not the only one that's that thinks that there are lots I mean yeah interesting that Sarah says choreographed okay so not only is it fabricated and made up it's it's it's kind of coordinated Le so yeah well I mean you can actually um there are clips of um news reporters reporting no no that's not what I was going to say Mr Jump Right In before you find out what I'm going to say that's not like me at all that's so much like you um there are there are videos online of news reporters reporting live from somewhere yeah um and then you see that there's a green screen and a wind machine and they're pretending to sway whilst they're recording about a hurricane or something like that there's loads of footage of just like that well yeah so it's Show Business okay and so when you realize that the news reporters have the same technology as people that are making films you know like and you know we like we now find out that there are are clones um you know people doing cloning technology what well I mean by clones I mean like AI okay images of people yeah um and you can use AI to deliver a message and you could put an AI mask over somebody to deliver a message we're talking about voice modulators and things like that so you really don't know if somebody is actually the person saying the thing that's being said so may I summize anyone in their right mind believe that everything that is actually on the news is actually legit okay so may I summarize that by saying all Is Not What It Seems yes within those Departments of of humanity I think so and the epoch defining moment for you at least then is that that will be discovered and people will be responding to that is that right I suspect when it first gets discovered some people go oh and then other people go no yeah I'm asking I'm asking you about whether there's an Epoch defining moment coming up and is that what to me it feels like there is De defining moment I mean there are clips of um politicians around the world on TV and in some of the clips they've got like fleshy earlobes and in others their earlobes are a different shape I get all of that you don't need to give me any more examples I do I do get what you're talking about that you from your point of view uh you you you are seeing that people might be being manipulated by in a way that they're not necessarily realizing yeah okay yeah and for you that is what might form part of this or what might be causing uh or that will be revealed during this time which from for your point from your point of view because of that is an Epoch defining creating moment well I think actually there might be a bigger Epoch defining moment which is um it it's becoming really obvious that there are lots of inconsistency everywhere and I think there might be um like somebody will draw a bigger line next to it something big will happen What causing like the distractions are getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger find out there is the there is your assertion that that's what's going on Y and another part of it is that you're you're suggesting that more people might find that to be the case and then we will be in a world of that reaction is that the is that the epoch for you for you already think that people are starting to feel quite uncertain and um because of or anyway no I think the sense of it you know you know you get a sense you know when you're in a friendship with somebody and you get a feeling that they're not being straight with you yeah that feeling is sort of imperceptible at the start it's just like a little like a little tickle or a little whistle like a whisper in your ear over time it gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger before you start to take action yeah okay and so I think there are lot of people at the moment I mean why are there so many people that it appears to us right now there are lots of people moving ask I'm not asking you to justify yourself I'm I'm open to yours and anyone else's view of what's going on there's a lot of people but what most interest the urge to move there's a lot of people who are feeling uncertain and are wanting to change their lives they're looking for more clarity okay and so and I'm not surprised that they're coming to a less commercialized place a place where um things just seem a little bit more no offense to any any Portuguese person that's listening but it seems a little bit Fresher a little bit more innocent um than some of the other places or less cynical less cynical um and less kind of less manipulated you could say I guess it appears that way I'm sure it's not but so thank you thank you for relating that to what to our life here then because that that is the second part of the question if we are living in an Epoch defining moment what do people who moving to Portugal living in Portugal do about that or make of it so thank you I get your your sense of it and your analogy of feeling uncomfortable because the the friendship that you have with someone is not what it appeared to be that's that's are you suggesting that's how people feel about society and the world they've grown up in they they have that sense of une think it's not what they thought it was I think um like institutions that people have trusted yeah um I think it it will be like a really bad marriage you know like if somebody um realizes that the news isn't gospel that's going to create a a massive emotional trauma for somebody who has lived their life according to the news oh so that's the epoch the epoch of realization perhaps then or will that just be a symptom of the times we we're going to are in or going to be in it's like a death isn't it in fact I'm actually doing a show um about this um not specifically about our reality not NE necessarily been true but um I'm talking to Donna and um Jenny on Thursday yeah um Jenny came from the NHS and um worked as a as a top nurse and a top recruiter for the NHS yeah and she has her own realizations and thoughts about how things are managed within the NHS and you know for when um um organized Health Care comes into its own and also when it's actually a bit invasive and not necessary yeah so she's got some very strong views based on Decades of experience um and then I've got Donna who um found out she was adopted and she works with people who find out after a lifetime of believing their life was one way then finding out that everything that they were living their life by was made up and this is another example of the times you you it's like finding out your partner has cheated on you or something that you had absolutely trusted and had opened yourself devastating isn't it for anyone who's gone through that well we were talking about yesterday like what happens to Children you know um and and so many children and so many people that are listening right now will have been in this situation yeah you know you find out your mom and dad are about to get divorced yes or separate you know that's um a collapsing of the the world that you think is your world okay so just to bring you back to the point here is that that's what you think is occurring for for you I think that your view of the world is that people are are maybe seeing a new UND disturbing view of how the world is that they hadn't realized before and that is a that is a collective matter at this time okay let it get just a little bit more you said there was a moment to kind of link it into some spiritual um um values or well i' like to I want to underpin I I want to underpin it because um you know there is this concept that what is happening out there is happening inside As Above So Below inside outside Etc so for people who aren't realizing or coming into their own knowing that that's going on in the world you may find that their inner worlds are collapsing and changing you know everyone I'm encountering right now in in the work that I do and it might be because I've got a bias for it and people search me out because I already have that kind of listening so I'm aware of that but I'm so many people are coming to me right now who are having realizations that all is you know not as it seemed all is not as it seemed so I think this is I think you've you've you've made your case well yeah I mean so we could go for disclosure couldn't we or we could or Revelation you know things are not as people imagined and on a wholesale and individual basis that may be the case and that for you is part of this would appear to be a case to say that we are living in an Epoch defining era and that is a characteristic of it an overwhelming one I really like shal knut's comment okay well I'll get to those um so let's let's do that let's see what people are saying let's scroll back a bit rather than you have me pick up various ones and lose my thread of the of the comments no stop it stop it don't okay good morning to you yes um Good Luck not good luck but well done on the on your on your plump fruit Pete and Squire the sh morning Squire's here as well triumphing with the olive Harvest great job Pete and Pete conversing look at that if you want to learn a bit of Portuguese with Pete there as he talks to filamina get involved on the screen as well Asel yes so the Old Mother Goose poem I think has been it shared with us thank you very much it was a misty morning it was a misty moisty morning when foggy was the weather a chance to meet an old man all dressed in leather what sort of party is this he began to comp lient and I began to grin how do you do how do you do how do you do again and and on it goes I think until yes as repeat as necessary is that is twice after the meals that is the poem yeah oh that oh wow thank you yeah thank you very much and this is not a serving suggestion for the aforementioned meals yum catw worms with fresh virgin olive oil on there um it's a bum de that's rude That is rude who's saying that I don't know but thank you that must I think that's Frank is isn't Ito yeah it's the give away Cito there morning to you Frank how you doing this morning morning mson from Sarah Taylor good morning to you the tayor and it should be this is a different is this a different Fu Facebook user or the same one is it Frank it should be a brilliant morning for most Brits the criminal figure of braan is gone albe it temporarily from toxic political SC yeah they really refresh things by bringing um David Cameron back haven't they wow B from Pam I'm sure is shocked by that news um just stopping by to say hello on my way out to work good morning thanks Pam for dropping in Martin templon good morning to you the brilliantly named Martin Templeton great name it is a great name isn't it Martin Templeton um bondia from rainy France is it not the screen age yeah um that's epocal is it not that we are in the screen Tech age and um tomorrow I'll be talking to a young man is that's patronizing isn't he I think he's younger than me so on that basis again like I said his 40s yeah yeah I mean a lot of people are young compared to me these days I described somebody in their 30s as um as a a young adult with a did you really like how piz they feel what a muppet I was being well Corey is however old he is and in relation to me he'll be joining us anyway he said can I do you called him a young man can I no not to his face but if he's watching this now he's your age isn't he maybe bit no he'll be he be more offended by that than me calling him a young man I well I suspect he's between our ages you think he than me I don't know and I want to move on to say that he um said I'd like to do an AMA about AI now ai of course I understand that well I understand what the words mean I don't really understand all of the implications that's the reason why he's doing an AMA which is ask me anything he works in that field and he'll be joining us tomorrow to talk about that Cory will be joining us um coincidentally lives on the other side of the bay a fascinating fell talking to us about AI tomorrow and yeah Martin that is that would for a lot of people that would signify this age wouldn't it techn ology AI screens digital blah blah that sort of thing the best description I ever heard of commercial television was audience delivery system good there you go descrition and I'm with Pete on this um we've got false propaganda is hardly novel though Starling yeah and and that's why I said um that's why I started with how do we know I think it's been going on all this time so yeah thanks Pete yeah uh hardly novel Stalin blocked out uh all images of trosky During the 19177 Revolution rugby K is here oh there are some um articles in the Press Colin most popular cars in Portugal we need to have a look at those together if reality TV is entertainment not just cheap TV people watching must have boring lives bit judgmental Colin maybe see you at the Meetup tomorrow you're going to pop along and see us it was great to see you last time uh listening to you Beauties while girl from Iona plays in the background it must be because we too are tall and Tann and young and lovely gave him the idea there I have no idea okay and even even the Egyptians use false propaganda they had a relationship to cats as well didn't they even Egyptians used false propaganda maybe that was their downfall I'm worried now it was the cats that's my that's my latest Egyptian theory is the cats that they revered so much and you can see a mummified cat at the Birmingham Museum with the little ears um you can see the little ears in the mummification oh yeah he got his PO like that well I think the the Egyptians became worried at some point that everything was being pushed off tables and smashed and scratched up and catw worms were everywhere and they locked themselves deep into the um the the vaults and basements of of Toblerone type buildings the cat to escape the cats I think that's that's the Egyptian pyramid mystery solved right there in fact so did the atrans everybody I think everyone who's describing what happens to someone else for their own benefit I mean that is just propaganda and that's what we all do isn't it at some so I I why I don't understand is why so many people believe what is put out there and and told do they maybe they don't maybe they don't you know I think that that's that's what Colin's saying isn't it that's what Pete seems to be saying is and and James to some extent is like this has always gone on I I get from from you talking to you about this that it's it's reaching epidemic levels and the cicm around it cynicism around it is growing but it was people kind of always knew but now they're getting maybe a bit peed off about it um photos were altered to erase Rivals from future memory in in Portugal that's interesting isn't it yeah and if we have a chance I want to go to the latest plot twist in the recent political drama here in Portugal I was researching it late into the night last night into the early hours of this morning and there's somebody calling it um let me just tell you what exactly what they said uh the fall of the government is the worst attack in Portugal's democ ocracy um since the Carnation or since since the dictatorship and since April 25th and an April 25th hero uh the law is being used to achieve political and Military objectives which I found slightly chilling having you know watching the course of this unfold and now that's com nor many people are talking about it Port deep state of work though isn't it the revolution you know from what we hear about the revolution it sounds like it was a a really big event and a massive well there you go that's a really that's a really good that is a such a good example Mrs M because that was an Epoch defining moment for Portugal yes and well documented and well we say it's well documented and it appears to be well documented but do you remember when you were doing that um that episode I don't mean well as incorrectly I mean you did you did an episode about it with filina one of her Pals and then somebody who was a young man at the time when it all changed favorable side yeah and you were expecting I think everyone was expecting him to say oh it got so much better after this happened yeah and actually his story was completely different and everyone was like really shocked I remember washing up listening to the story thinking but then but then and then when we think about it we're not so shocked are we because you know people's experiences are personal and nuanced and I think there's a comment from J Dort about this uh yes I suspect most Epoch defining moments are only known in hindsight yeah that's why I was saying when I first started out this morning is it's like trying to look in the mirror to see the world but not have you in it which would make you a vampire I know in certain circles but it is like that isn't it it's like looking into a mirror to see the world hoping that you won't be there taking yourself out of the picture and I think you're absolutely right you know we we don't that's part of the problem as well isn't it is that we don't know when seismic things are happening because we don't want to believe it and we want our old life to continue was normal that's how it was in the pandemic I think wasn't it you know New Normal why can't we just go back to our old lives there was a lot of that sort of talk wasn't there here's where I think it's at okay you know you know when you're at school and you're tasked with writing a story um and Pete you'll probably recognize this from the kids you've taught um but like you write a story and after a while your story just becomes a jumble of words and you back yourself into a corner where you can't really take your characters any further yes and that's go with what you've got and that's when everyone all wakes up and it was just a b a bad dream I suspect everyone that's watching this we're we've all created this really elaborate dream with all these regular people that we meet up with every day yeah and we're all probably just going to open our eyes one day and see that we're all in a psych ward next to each other that's a horrible outcome that's not where I was expecting we wake up and go it's you oh my God I just had a dream about you I'm not having that one I'm not that's not the future I had in mind thank you very much mind you so the the dangly Mouse this is when Jal Dort saw his friend's Apple computer is Apple 2 it wasn't especially significant at the time but yes my goodness Steve Jobs went on to become an incredible Creator did he not and and contributed to the culture that we are now living in the digital age Mrs M the world made by nerds and and Tech and digital people that we I mean we are in their world aren't we let's face it and that's what Martin I think was saying the screen age we are in the World created you know I guess the medium is the message and all that sort stuff and when the tech people are creating the life we live we live according to their how they make sense of life don't we so that we can never have to talk to anyone we can order the food the parcels to our door and never have to interact with I was um interviewed by Josh and Kaye well Kay from everywhere yeah last week and she was asking about the changes that I'd seen in the last six years and and also as as somebody's lived abroad before what are the differences one of the things that I mentioned was you know we don't have to really connect with the local culture anymore um which sounds really awful um but we like people that move now they move with their Cloud don't oh that's like xack 2.0 that they the digital xack can just recreate their life here I mean you just pick up your like you don't have to turn on a radio or a TV anymore because you can watch everything what you want in the way you want to watch it when you want when you want to watch it you can watch things with translations um so for instance you know I use Portuguese internet you know obviously like Portuguese websites but immediately um you know I'll read a lot of it I can read a lot of it but um I will write click and translate it to English when there are bits I don't get or when I want to make sure that the delivery instructions are right yeah but you know we don't even need to um you know call up a a cab anymore because in so many parts of like the the cities in Portugal you've got Uber so like in in Porto in Lisbon in queenb I think they got it in Queen yeah well I imagine the trend is towards more rather than less of that yeah I mean we don't we don't have Uber in this area but like the moment we go to to um around Lisbon I fire it up I don't I don't look for a local cab number I literally go to gravitate towards ease if we wanted um a takeout we could just go to I mean not that I've ever called food in in that way but um that click away exactly you don't have to interact at all in any other language yeah if you choose not to and I think that's going to you know if anything our existence is just becoming a lot more homogenized and less um you know I'm not trying to um like sell a dystopian view or anything any more than usual but like being an expat now is very different to how it was like when I 25 years ago when I was living in France it's so easy now isn't it everything was in French and you used to go to the phone box didn't you have the right amount of so you you bought stamps to letters I had a phone callard pH that was quite modern in its time wasn't it and then You' ring your your parents on a Sunday night or something oh yeah Y and that was when they got to speak to you A how lovely okay follow the money and also yes uh thank you John we'll play your rendition of Mother Goose The Misty moisty moment it's one of your favorite words isn't it moist I don't wouldn't say that I mean I'm not afraid of using it as as some people are you know like some words just kind of feel good as you say them to me it moist feel feels good tastes good yeah follow the money says James who benefits most when people don't know what fact and what is fiction confused people are more easily manipulated and great question from Sarah the question becomes which ones of us are confused M you wanted to respond to that didn't you all of us um go on say more well um I remember years and years ago um one um we were in the UK and we were watching one of those new year programs and it was about control opposition and also about layering information who was it that that guy that did a rundown at a year ahead oh um Charlie Booker was it screen wipe yeah maybe um and that was the first time I'd really come up against the idea of controlled opposition although I realize that most people play it out like parents play good cop bad cop don't they so why why only occurred to me that it was a thing um when I watched that program but I've observed now you know I what's happened is like my views have gone from one side to another side over and then back again and then back again I've been very seaory for many years you know because I I know something then I learned that the next thing is here actually what I'm now learning is there's information put out on all different levels and different spectrums and you can't really trust anything the only like this is the time to come in this is the time to learn how to discern this is the time to learn how Jud another another aspect of this Epoch it's it's time for us to start to go back into discernment and to not trust everything that you're told thank you okay that's this is what I'm looking for this morning you know are we in an Epoch defining moment what is that Epoch what is it made of and what can we do about it so I like that Mrs I think it's the time for us to come out of the earlier thing you were talking about yeah okay so we thought life was one way we're realizing it's not that's made us a bit confused and the way out of confusion is to bring some clarity and the human capability faculty for doing that is to apply discernment to a situation well is just how sweet humans are what they will believe they will tend to believe we will believe whatever people tell us things right because there is that if we if we join the Dots here um we are lovely like that aren't we and we want to think the best of people we want ideally we want to think the best of people and we want to avoid pain and we seek pleasure y so all of that leads us in a certain Direction which you could argue is where we're at and it's maybe coming apart a little bit where we have been a little bit too more a little bit too much pleasure seeking and pain avoiding and not doing some things that we needed to do and just like we don't need to worry about that also humans humans um tend to be happier when they're part of a group and when they feel accepted so that's also being manipulated we're sweet social cares anymore do they now that everyone is you know now that families and work places have all been divided no one no people are getting used to I suppose feeling like they don't belong anymore yeah certainly in some communities where their views are polarized in relation to other people's I think we're so sweet that once we have a realization about something we usually go to completely the opposite view yeah because then because we really want to know the truth and we really want to help to be sweet and get back into our belong dou down but half the difference and so and so the diff the real difficulty is you know for people who find themselves very very much in the middle and not really going down any route you lose that sense of belonging because there are a few people doing it all right if this has all got too philosophical and conceptual for you here here are some big waves okay and we we'll come back we'll conclude with this but we've got some other things to talk about this morning here are some big here yeah here are some big waves around so you can see where we are right now this is quite extraordinary today there we go that's better isn't it live from nazare and allegedly the right time of year the right place to be to see the big waves and they are looking pretty terrifying to me anyway Mrs M was here and gasping at the uh the glory and well the just the sheer drama and scale of these waves I don't know how well you're seeing it that's the U the classic angle isn't it here and where a lot of people view from and you can see the crowds are beginning to gather here now and there are some big waves and there is one crazy Duo out there I think a jet scheme pilot perhaps doing a wky at the moment uh with a maybe a surfer on the back I'm not sure I couldn't see a surf ball but I could see a couple of guys out on a jet ski maybe just taking a look but the waves are definitely getting up it's very mild here really comfortable temperature a little bit windy and a lot of white water as you can see here everywhere you look turbulence tidal turbulence magnificent it's like it's so dramatic it's almost like unreal and you can see the waves crashing over there by the viewing point on uh the this is the North Beach of nazer PRI the nor there's quite a few people gathering at the top there should I zoom in a bit and see if we can you can see things a bit closer there you go you see a few figures up on the top there let's see if we can catch a bigger wave for you get the zoom that's sorry it's so probably grainy but I just want to give you a sense of the scale of these waves let's see if we can catch on with the camera as it comes in there you go that looks pretty awesome doesn't it [Music] I'll Stick Around by the Rocks there so you get a sense of scale as well look at that amazing when it crashes against the rocks [Music] look it's hard to not just stand here in silence and a of these waves here look at that yeah I think I'm just going to go home and get my wet suit and my board and come out cuz this looks just so like so much fun more waves dashing against the Rocks over the viewing point there well what a pleasure to share with you the view here today at Naz have a great day and a great weekend wherever you [Music] are nice shot of your new DBS I think um all live videos end like that don't they they begin with oh is this thing pointing the right way oh sorry that's not what I meant to do and then at the end picture of everyone's shoes and you're right I mean James the camera couldn't do it justice but it was amazing was it Mrs M last Friday well I you could see it once I mean James is right but when you um zoomed in and you can see the waves compared to the people yeah that's when you that's when I started they were a bit bigger than 2 meters weren't they they were I mean they weren't the biggest that they can be at nazer but they were they were very impressive morning Paul good to see you here this morning no one sees the world the same and we treasure that unique perception of yours PS slowly starting to feel better glad to hear Ash Amigo lots of love to you in the AL guy Andel we're all cavem men we'll hear him sing in a minute and Cave women at heart avoid pain seek pleasure provide protect family secure food shelter and comfort acquire the means power to maintain the above that's a pretty good analysis isn't it yes it is good I think and it all depends I suppose on the amount of finesse and respect we can um Garner in that process I suppose which makes for a civilization or not um hello from France Liz good morning to you well I guess seeing is believing is becoming obsolete yes I I was wanting to say something about this Liz thank you for being here this morning is becoming obsolete but at the same time people are more aware of this precisely because the very same technology that makes this happen also uh also helps them back up the decisions of what could or could not be true very good and the lovely images of Na it's very confusing is well said beautiful what she's written let see what um the great philosopher Joel Dort is saying to us in this this sent through on 913 593 you listen to this already it might be a personal it was a misty moisty morning oh yeah and foggy was the WEA by chance to meet an old man all dressed in leather he began to compliment and I began to grin how do you do how do you do and how do you do again it's beautiful he's getting towards Lee Marvin there though isn't he was born under a wondering star I'd love to hear your version of that John I think he should be narrating books he's got a love to I'd buy those I'd buy those Misty moisty mornings of men dressed in leather who doesn't like doesn't like that in the morning Revenge of the Nerds not the80s movie we're actually living in it okay I knew messing with them would be D as dangerous as messing with the aliens they brought us into their world hooked us up to gadgets apps and now that we're all in they will have the last lengthy laugh who doesn't like a lengthy laugh first thing in the morning however it's not all doom and gloom who however you are F you Facebook user they feel ostracized from society let's bring them back into the fold so hug a nerd today um some general love and attention should solve the problem that's the answer to everything isn't it I'm glad we are we are saying that this morning or you are whoever you are and um William ogleby we won't we won't be coerced or manipulated too old long in theam we've had some good conversations good chat you always have a good chat with William chill smash that like button good to see you here William yeah let's encourage the ladies to date more nerds do you think that's a good strategy I have dated nerds and how did it go obviously not very well because you didn't stick around what I've got a broadcasting nerd really is that how you see me that's the biggest Revelation for me this morning then okay yeah there is a problem isn't there with again it sort becomes it can so easily become polarized and judgmental can't it you know this this thing about nerds or not nerds but I think we get the point don't we that people who've been disenfranchised but now feel power which I think that is what that Facebook user comment articulates there actually you're the one that's I'm the nerd in our relationship exact didn't like to say uh it has been said that we'll believe it when we see it actually we see it when we believe it yes and yes and it's a not a a sweet spot where it's a bit of both you know the the yin and the Yang you know that that that biting Point sweet spot of where it's a bit of both and it's a powerful moment where where both are true um there are what's that there are nerds of all Sexes and orientations yeah I'm I am definitely the nerd of our family aren't he got to go and change society after inspiring conversations here this morning and true love is always the answer answer um says James yeah right I'm glad we came to that this morning in this discussion and not some other polarized mess yeah I I was never wanting to go down a polarized um Mass Route that no one likes that in the morning or any time of day it's just not it's not helpful is it not necessary um I've received a few um messages have you on this matter no I've received a message actually this morning you dry cleanings really what what we can take our cats in to have their nuts like oh okay no no no and if we get more gumpers we get a discount to do the same not the people they're cats I I received a message um I'm not going to say who who sent it but somebody's watching today sent me a message um about their own experience of adoption of cat or of themselves no of themselves oh right okay their own adoption family story thank you for sending me that message oh wow okay thank you very much for that bondia Malta from bandi just back from a warm walk very mild isn't it at a moment through the bada and greeted back by the mighty nazare ocean pleasure go may I may I read out your um message that you sent me on my show on Thursday and I'll do it anonymously if if that's what I don't know what you are you talking about Mama Bear okay Mama Bear is not here this morning in the departure Lounge but we have I have a m little small in memorium to do and you have something to say about yeah a situation uh pertaining to somebody with a somebody you passed on apparent passed on in the UK is that right yeah tell us well um I received a message from from um a friend who uh lives obviously in Portugal um from the UK and um um without like indicating who it is at all she's saying I'm in the UK my mother died 30th of October peacefully in her sleep um just me and my brother lots to do I would like um to get this message out somehow to all those with aging parents on their own in the UK um with their next of kin living abroad it's absolute disgusting not one person from any Authority has contacted to tell us that our mother had died not the police not the hospital not the doctor surgery not age concern even the place where we are having the Wake are not allowed to call International telephone numbers the police had to knock my mother's door down in order to find her the alarm was raised by a Cara who couldn't get into the house um we only found out because the police went through my mother address book found that one of her surnames corresponded with a man with a particular name who lives a couple of miles from her this man is my dad um and they divorced 50 years ago so she received the message that her mother had died um from the estranged partner from the estranged partner of 50 years yeah and and her brother also lived abroad as well lives you know in the other side of Europe this person wants to share is the fact that the authorities in the UK will not be ringing if you you may you may assume that you're the next of kin but you may not be contacted by as as a kind of policy of some of the of some of the authorities in the UK who will not ring abroad yeah I mean she she stressed in her message to me that that is in the area that she lives so I think that's the greater London area and yeah um Kent and possibly Essex it's like the southeast the home counties yeah um and it might a pretty Grim policy doesn't it yeah I it might be different in other parts so I think um you know if you if you have an ailing parent um and maybe don't have siblings or anyone that is connected to them in the UK that can call you yeah um it's important to think about what you might want to do in the um yeah in the event of a parent passing away yeah and of of course you know I'm guessing this is something that you'll be talking to m bear about because all of us at some point will pass away um and it goes back the other way well that's why we talk about it because it makes sense to make plans doesn't it and especially so when you're in a culture that you don't understand so you you know it's it's it's difficult at the best of times to to face a bereavement and manage that and then when you're in a foreign country it's even worse so we recommend people be prepared and this is another aspect of that preparation is when you've moved away and we know the difficulty of of of that just the difficulty of moving away from elderly parents in another part of the world that's that's pretty awkward in its own right or can be and then this added complication that we've just heard about that you won't necessarily be told or phoned by the people who have you as a next of kin if you live abroad so be be aware of that and make arrangements to make that as um I suppose as easy as possible when that when that worst case scenario happens so thank you for sharing that I she was definitely listed as next of kin that's the that's the shock they would not call abroad they wouldn't call an international number I don't I don't see why they couldn't have sent an email I mean I imagine it's a resource issue I imagine it's a resource issue that they don't want to be tracking people that I don't know I don't know but I I imagine it's something to do with you think in these days where everyone's connected yeah everyone's everyone's ideas all over the Internet that it would be quite simple to do right right okay well thank you for sharing that with us for the Ben for the benefit uh albeit in horrible circumstances and situations but thank you for letting us know that and lots of love to you at your awful time for you as well thank you for sharing that with us okay um talking of your passing on U I went to the funeral of somebody who who whose passing I mentioned last week it was Chris price the wine maker the wine eccentric um who I loved meeting he um I have in my mind an expat Hall of Fame you know amazing people who came to Portugal who who made quite contribution uh in their in their life in their daily life and you know in the grander gestures of their life and this man um came to I found out from the memorial that I went to on Saturday and I want to write a a full length obit in the Portugal resident about Chris because he was such an amazing contribution to this society and to our community of he he represented us well as foreigners coming to Portugal and this is when I met up with him to do a wine tasting here in San martinho I'd met him in the year or two before that you remember Mrs M we were driving up near to Caine where he established his Winery and are you Chris we saw him didn't we pottering about on the on the Ridge Road there and he said you Carl and we started chatting and and we created something of a a great friendship it was always great to see him and the twinkle in his eye and the plans he had and we were going to make podcasts and films about what he'd done here and it was amazing to hear his story of coming to Portugal not that long ago actually I think it was 2007 and began growing grapes harvesting the making wine and he he was actually bottling wine a year later after buying a ruin and renovating that as well as creating a Vineyard and this is where it was in C the the best way we found to um honor him Mrs ight was to open a bottle of his wine on Saturday night yeah and uh this was the cork wasn't it in that wine life is too short to drink bad wine it it was like a lovely little last word from Chris really fantastic and we we have been enjoying his cot wines um in these last few days bought three bottles and it it's just the whole the whole story of Caine is quite amazing of a man and and Helga his wife came to Portugal to grow wine and I hope Helga will continue in some way to to create and and produce wine and share it with the world in in his U memory so uh remembering Chris price here I will write more about him to bring more of his fabulous story to you um when the time is right in the Portugal residence so the message from Chris there life is too short to drink uh bad wine and there he was recommending to me a local wine from alcabasa we went I think we had a a French a French Chardon going head-to-head with a Portuguese White and the Portuguese Chris was absolutely right the Portuguese white was superb and I I still drink that recommendation to this day from alabas a kutos I think it's called so rest in peace and thank you so much uh Chris for your wonderful Legacy here in Portugal and among this community here drink C Wine folks if you can get your hands on on some and honor Chris okay last few thoughts then this morning uh on um what we've been talking about this morning are we in an what do you think now Mrs M after some talk about it do you has your view changed is it deepened are we in an Epoch defining moment I know it's hard to tell from what when you're living in it it's hard to tell but do you get a sense that we are I I feel like things are speeding up at the moment a lot of people people that I'm well like from my own experience it just feels like things are getting faster and faster and faster and faster yeah um and it feels like things are also unraveling a little bit like things are coming apart at the seams a little bit yeah um my sense is that we're coming to the first part of a conclusion yeah yeah but um I I think there's a lot more that we're going to be learning about I just think there's I don't know so I get the sense of of the characteristics that you're seeing anticipating and we can perhaps assume that there we are from for you from your point of view in an Epoch defining moment thanks to everyone else for their comments yeah um the the second part of the question was you know if we are in an Epoch defining moment post pandemic with all sorts of strife going on around the world I mean there always has been but it seems to be I mean that's the thing isn't it there seems to be an increase in volume of geopolitical geophysical strife seism activity everything is like scaled up and of course we have to bear in mind what Liz was saying and what the Nerds have done for us they've brought it to our attention in a way that we weren't so aware of it yeah but whether there is more or we're just more aware of it it's certainly our experience that there seems to be a lot of tumultuous turbulent activity at the moment heralding something intrinsically being life oring for people you know bad in our own Community is is um on standby to evacuate from from Iceland because of the the volcanic activity over there I the second part of the question was if if we are in an Epoch changing moment what does that mean for expats in Portugal for the foreigners for the immigrants who are here thank you will for reminding me of that and for will it's I'd say it means you Choose Wisely with some sort of poignant words there I wasn't expecting will to be here this morning I'm very glad you are will Countryside country-wise I mean off grid even better so um somewhat apocalyptic might say to to get offrd to to you know world seems to be taking that face value that we are in a changing trans turbulent time go on I think um yeah like getting your resources sorted out I mean there's no way we can do our life off grid um not as is at the moment we've missed that boat um however I think like understanding things about basic survival and um getting food stores having seeds you know like all those things that if you had to start for you but all those things that we might need like those skills that maybe our grandparents had um it's really really important but I think there's a much bigger they weren't Preppers though were they they they were resourceful that's just how they lived yeah exactly and that that you know to me that seems much they weren't Reliant they weren't reliant on self they were I think they were interc communal they were they were um they were ready and they were resourceful and they were functional in a way that we might aspire to which that's why I stopped short of this prepping thing because it just seems so ready for a certain kind of scenario that seems very unattractive however living in the countryside preparing a lot of your own food back full circle to Pete picking his own plump fruit and tickling it and then pressing olive oil more of that right more of that because that's intercommunal as well interdependent I also think there's a another bigger piece actually that's more important and that is just to enjoy the life we have yes to the best of our ability because like all these scenarios that we're talking about it's nothing that any of us can actually control you know I mean apart from like you know if you're a prepper and you've got all of your ducks in a row that gives you that gives you as much control as any it gives you more control over your life than other people have over theirs yes um which is helpful but by and large you know if if our society is premised on a lot of things that's not true or appear or made yeah yeah then like we have no controls over our life so the only thing we can control is how we live it and how we respond react so I think that's the other piece is just you know to well I like that live the best life you can are you doing a baref broadcast do I need to hurry no okay good no no no right I'm just checking I'm just checking okay um and gotta go says um oh no hold on a minute William says I believe in the present climate more people are beginning to prep looking back at what my parents did in the 60s there are some disadvantages that come with modern technology we agree with that um yeah you two get a bunker um got to go one question if you don't mind does anyone have a lawyer I can borrow turns out I'm not allowed to represent myself my um that sounds ominous will um and my suggestion to you would be to get in touch with the team that do you remember the the dentist who took quite a stand against the lockdown measures in Portugal she was she seemed like quite a lone voice and a very inspiring woman who took offense to quite a lot of the impositions of the lockdown and was challenging the government and and creating all sorts of great webinars and speakers online many of whom it has to be said um whilst they were dismissed for being whatever they were um ridiculous or treasonous or outrageous uh many of what the messages that they shared seem to have ring a little bit truer in subsequent times um I would I would uh ask her refer to her that group of people who presumably are also representing themselves in some way or other so I don't know what else to suggest with that you need a lawyer who wants that to take on that kind of cause I think don't you who's who's supportive to your cause and presumably will Pono as well um T duck just in and whilst we were talking about um getting the ducks in a row because I think that is the final message to leave uh today um whether you are preparing physically emotionally mentally spiritually is to get those ducks in a row it is isn't it's being in the it's being in the right shape to respond isn't it however you see fit and whatever you think is coming and what whether there's nothing coming it's just business as usual or not thank you for sharing this my mom passed earlier this month um this would be the departure Lounge ordinary Mama be not with us but thank you for sharing this Jo my siblings me and my siblings were able to be in touch with her weekly how lovely the nursing staff also kept my oldest brother appraised weekly we were even alerted when her end was imminent that sounds well managed it sounds awful as you are of course to to to have your mom pass and um in the circumstances it sounds like you and and to be so far away but it sounds like you managed it brilliantly as I as I observe you do we a great admirer of how you go about things John um the only things we control are our own thoughts words and actions ultimately uh that is uh about getting the ducks in a row isn't it and for me you know the idea of going off grid how about going off grid mentally emotionally we are we are there is an there is a very I find a very seductive attractive grid of this you know of these messages of of what's going on in the world it can it can appeal to some of our less attractive instincts I think aren't it on the one hand our survival Instinct we want to know what's going on so we can prepare and then whilst doing that we can get really derailed undermined and and affected by it because we are we are great as well aren't we was we are we want the best and we are Noble in part as well and some of these things really offending upset us and quite rightly too the moment is when it becomes widely apparent we don't have a democracy so do I mean will paps is extending what you were saying Mrs M that the illusion of democracy will go just like the illusion of entertainment and news Gathering of course is there yeah so I mean you know it makes you wonder about the power of the legal system as well yeah um yeah and some poignant thinkers here this morning thank you for that I mean that's that's why we do the baref foot broadcast yes it's it's so that um irrespective of all of this that's going on right now yeah we can find a way to come together and to um reimagine whether it's going on or not because there's the thing right even if there is nothing going on even if this isn't a defining Epoch how beautiful it is for people to come together and talk about the things that Inspire love and support them yeah and and um share our share our um sort of beautiful like heart thoughts for each other and like that something edifying something Discerning as you mentioned before something that might help us you know deal with um any of the madness that may appear to be going on right now wonderful okay thank you of course we've been doing that for like 13 years we have haven't we it's How We Roll I would like to think if you want the government to be like your parents expect to be treated like children I can't argue with that yeah can't argue with that it's a trade-off some people are prepared to make I mean the question I have for you Jonathan I agree with you completely but what happens if you don't want the government in the first first place what happens if you just you know consider yourself to be adult enough to make your own decisions and to live by um the consequences of your life I hear another can of worms being opened which I cannot allow right now at 5ast 10 stop it okay these These are great thoughts to share aren't they Aspire for peace love and happiness thank you Squire I want that lady as my dentist I know two great dentists Believe It or Not Here in Portugal she's one of them um the blessing I so often offer is May you know love joy and peace always yeah James you lovely man Jackie hi all that when I get out there in Spring I plan on using a 12vt we got all the Preppers and the offgridders coming out of the closet now fantastic um 12vt and solar system as it's what I'm used to having lived on a narrow boat for many years it's great um well send me a message unless I've blocked you on every possible Channel well to be sure there's a way that was with a lot of pro I'm sure I'm sure we can get to get that her name to you get out and experience things in person yes Sarah it's often different than what is portrayed online it is isn't it now who did I send that to somebody sent it to me and I sent it to on to Bobby um and it was got any decent fatherly advice for me says the boy yes son we aren't divided as the media portrays everyday people talk to a neighbor cooworker or stranger that doesn't look like you you'd be surprised how nice people are in person to resonate with what you're saying there Sarah and hope for the best thank you you lovely gumpers what I mean we took on a big subject this morning and it's it's it's it's not ended because this is ongoing thing isn't it but we're concluding the show for today and this is a beautiful conclusion so thank you you wonderful people hope for the best prepare for the worst and you know what I'm going to do now Mrs M I'm going to poignantly put in that video now of because the thirst for Freedom overcame all fears now whatever romanticized notion we might have about the revolution this came out of my research into it and um you know is hijacked for all sorts of political agendas and we'll see that next year won't we on the 50th um anniversary of the Carnation Revolution Mantra of the optimistic pessimist Year hope for the best prepare for the wor wise words from Claire today I'm not seeing CLA am I um it's simple easy easy and not as expensive as people think 12vt water filtration is cheap when using 12vt methods designed for Caravans and boats thank you Jackie we need to get you on the show to share that because actually the Barefoot broadcast at the good morning Portugal show was a lot about preparedness wasn't it in the early days and homesteading and everything and then this happened which I'm not at all unhappy about it's been wonderful to be here pondering this this morning and we will go with the thirst for Freedom overcame all fears because I think it's a useful and transferable concept as a way of concluding the show after a last word from Mrs M just have a great day how beautiful all right thanks everybody take care and bye for now we'll see you tomorrow with an AMA about Ai and Raquel will be with us um talk about preparing hoping for the best and preparing for the worst starting a business in [Laughter] Portugal on the 25th of April the MFA announced that the people should remain at home because they feared armed confrontations on the street but the Portuguese population clearly disobeyed the military orders to stay at home because the thirds for Freedom overcame all fears and so people took the streets to the thousands and supported the military CP to force the resignation of the leader of the regime the people brought red carnations and and distributed them to the soldiers who stuck them in their rifle barrels making the flower the symbol of the revolution the Revolutionary process of 7475 was one of the liveliest experiences in Portuguese history in 19 months there were two failed schs six provisional governments the process of independence of the colony several mass strike waves demonstrations occupations of thousands of houses a profound agricultural reform occupations of land the creation of workers cooperatives workers councils trade unions neighborhood commissions self-managed factories businesses offices newspapers and [Music] radios because the thirds for Freedom overcame all fears
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What is Market Share?
hello and welcome to the business of marketing in today's video we will talk about market share market share is something which is used very commonly yet it is not always understood as well as it should be in today's episode we will look at all aspects of market share from what exactly is market share how do you go about calculating it and what are some of the questions and considerations that you should keep in mind so that you are able to use it to your benefit and also look smart when you use it I can assure you that by the end of this episode you will know enough about market share so that you are never again confused with any aspect of market share my name is Rahul and I run the business of marketing I have over 15 years of experience helping various kinds of brands within marketing and advertising requirements and I am here to share my experience with you business of marketing is for all kinds of individuals whether you're a student or you're a professional who wants to utilize this knowledge into a 2-day work as you can see this is a new channel so it would really help if you leave your comments so that I know what is to add and how to make my content better and also if you can subscribe that would really really be nice on this channel I will be demystifying several other concepts of marketing so check out the description below for links to other videos and please stay with me until the end of the video because I have a special bonus where I will talk about how market share is actually calculated in the real world and how is it applied to different aspects so let's dive straight in to market share the market share of a particular product brand or company is the portion of sales it owns in relation to the overall market it is always calculated for a specific market or a region or a geography and for a specific period of time let's try and understand the concept a little better with the help of an example imagine that we are looking at the market share for fountain pens in Singapore for the year 2019 in value terms which will be measured in dollars let's call the three products fountain pen a B and C these three pens saw an annual sales of twenty dollars thirty dollars and fifty respectively if you are all three of them together you will see that the total sales for fountain pens in Singapore in 2019 is hundred dollars so as a result you can say that the market share of fountain pen is 20 percent fountain pen B is 30 percent and fountain pen C is 50 percent in this particular example we've looked at market share in value terms which is in dollars however it is not necessary that you always have to calculate market share in terms of value market share is an attempt to understand the size of your business as compared to the category in which it exists and therefore it can be calculated in many ways the other most commonly used measure of market share is in volume terms which is the number of units sold which brings me to the first two questions that you should be considering whenever you look at market share the first question is what exactly does this market share represent is it for a particular product or for a brand or for the size of the business who owns a brand or a product in our example we calculated the market share for a particular product which is founded pants the next question to look at is what is the market share being measured in terms of is it measured in terms of value in which case it could be something like in our example Singapore dollars or is it being measured in terms of volume which can be in terms of the number of units which are being sold for that particular product so as I was saying market share need not necessarily always be about products it could also be about brands or it could be the market share of a company which owns a set of brands or many different products in the next example you can see that I have flipped the three products with three different brands and everything else remains the same and in the next example I am showing the market share of three companies instead of products or brands it is very likely that these companies own one brand which is actually sold as one single product and therefore the market share of the company is pretty much the same as the market share of the products or the brands which are being sold by that company now let's look at how market share is actually calculated if we take the same count an example you can see how many of them were sold by each of the three different product in every single month of 2019 in Singapore market simply by adding up the monthly sales of each of the products you'll get the annual sales in our example fountain-pen days annual sales is 20 that of fountain-pen b is 30 and that of fountain-pen c is 50 once you have this data you need to find out what's the annual sales for the entire category in this case it will be 20 plus 30 plus 50 which is equal to hundred once you have the annual sale for every brand and the annual sales for the entire category you can find out the market share of every brand very easily in our example if you want to calculate the market share of fountain-pen a then you take the annual sales of humpin a divide that by the annual sales of the entire category and multiply that by 100 that will give you the market share which is always expressed in percentage term which in this case is 20 percent for fountain-pen a and similarly the market share of fountain-pen B is 30 divided by 100 in 200 which is 30 percent and that a fountain-pen C is 50 divided by 100 in 200 which is 50 percent the other question to keep in mind is what is the period of time that this market share represents it could be a quarterly it could be a half year it could be annual or it could be for a much longer period of time and I've already mentioned this a couple of times but I just want to repeat it once again that it is always important to keep in mind what is the region that this market share data represents the region could be a part of a country or it could be for the entire country or it could be for a much larger region or even global what we've seen until now is what exactly is market share how do you go about calculating market share and what are some of the questions you should keep in mind every time you take a look at market rate data in the next part of this video I will talk about some of the very important considerations coming from real-life experience as to what makes market share data is so useful and so relevant it is totally possible that you might have the market share data and yet it does not answer some of the questions that you might have in our example if the question was to try and find out what is the size of the boundary category and what is the market share of each of the individual brands that form a part of this category for the period of 2019 in a market in Singapore either in value terms or in volume terms then we had the right data but what if the category wasn't fountain pens what if the category was pens in general what if the category was office stationery overall in that case having the fountain pen data is not the best representation of either the overall pens category or even the office stationery category so it's important to have the right kind of data for the right kind of questions that you have in mind or that you are looking for answers to your the crucial consideration to keep in mind is whether the brand has all of its sales happening offline or is a part of it or a huge chunk of that sales coming from online means this is something which is extremely relevant especially in today's times we know it intuitively as consumers that there is so much that we buy online therefore if your data is representing only the offline sales then it might not be complete it would still be representative but it might not give you the full picture the last important consideration around market share is to try and understand how exactly has the market share data been collected I had promised you at the start of the video that there is a special section at the end of the video where I will talk about market share from the real world and how is it actually calculated so here it comes in the case of most of the big brands they subscribe to something known as retail audit data there are a few retail audit data forms and one of those that I have worked with personally in my experience is called meals in the retail audit data will give you a full picture of how much sales is actually happening in modern trade which space like convenience stores hypermarkets supermarket and also in traditional trade which is like mom-and-pop stores around the corner however what the data does not tell you is how much sales is happening in the online channels that the bride might have in most cases brands have their own online data and they can add it to kind of offline data which is available through the retail audit panels the way this data is collected is extremely interesting the data is collected in primarily two ways the first way is to collect all of the point-of-sale data which is every time you go and you check out from a store when you are making the payment that data is collected by phones like this and the other way of collecting data is through random retail audits where someone actually visits these stores in a randomized manner and checks on whether the details being collected are correct or not and therefore the kind of data that you get from these audits is extremely precious and no wonder most of the marketers or brands that I have worked with are subscribing to some form or the other of a retail audit data if I was to summarize the benefits of retail audit data there are five things which stand out for me firstly it is very important for businesses to know the X Factor E or the sell out data but what does sell out data exactly mean in most cases what exactly happens is that the product moves from the factory to a large distributor or a stockist or a wholesaler and from there it means to a retailer so while the brands might have access to the data when the product is actually leaving the factories but they don't always have access to the data when the product arrives at the retail outlets and they don't know what exactly is the quantities which are being sold at what price are they being sold what kind of promotions are being run and other such details and that's where the retail audit data comes in where it gives you the data from the retail storefront the second thing which is important is the retail audit data is provided by every channel of distribution so in a market there could be many channels of distribution which are being utilized by brands for example in modern trade that could be convenience or hypermarkets or supermarkets or in traditional trade there could be mom-and-pop stores or something else the retail audit data gives you not only the entire data for sales but it also gives you data by every single chance of distribution thirdly the data is always provided for SKU so for example if you have a product in different weights or in different sizes or in different price points the data from the retail audit panel will provide you the details for each one of them next the retail audit data is also a great way to understand the power of distribution that you have as a brand the majority of the distribution data is actually collected from the retail audit panels where you get a very good sense of the number of outlets where your product is being sold what are the different sk use which are being stocked what is it that is selling really well at what speed and at what pace and at what velocity and similar are the things you might want to know and therefore the retail order data is considered as one of the best ways to understand the power of supply or distribution for a particular brand and lastly the retail audit data is extremely useful to understand the price on the ground there could be many instances where either the wholesaler or the retailer does something to either move the price up or down or puts it on promotion or various other things which they can do for example distributors might give out discounts to retailers and retailers might pass on this discount to consumers to be more competitive and as a result the price being actually charged would be different from the intended retail selling price and that brings me to the end of this video on market share I am really hoping that you were able to find out a little more about market share than what you probably already knew if there are any specific questions that you might still have please leave them in the comment section below and I will try and answer them as well as I can and before I leave I wanted to say this yet again please like and subscribe this video it's a new channel anything that you do will really help me in gaining traction and I will be 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hey folks it's dr sam and i received a question today can the spice saffron improve our eye health well i'm going to point you to a research study that was published in a recent nyu blog researchers took a group of people who were diagnosed with macular degeneration and half the group received a pill that contained placebo while the other half of the group received a pill that contained saffron and the results showed that those that took the saffron actually had an improvement in their vision so my takeaway is is that saffron could be another support in helping us improve our eye health saffron contains carotenoids that can definitely support our retina and macular health
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Scare of their life’: Dogs survive shock implosion vs 11 Roosters in absurd NRL thriller
[Music] the Bulldogs have survived a stunning second half comeback from The Roosters to hang on for a 30 to 26 win in wet and wild conditions at a core [Music] Stadium it was a taale of two halves with the dog shooting out to a 26 N in the first half while the roosters were left shell shocked and without three star [Music] players Dom young was sent off for a high shot on Blake tofa while also without Sam Walker and James tadesco both failed he as it meant Michael Jennings 35 came onto the field for his first game since 2012 20 when he CED a doping band with the 2013 Premiership winner activated as the 18th man tadesco was ruled out after he was knocked out trying to tackle a rampaging billiam miika just minutes after the independent doctor ruled Sam Walker to come from the field after Steven Ken's knee caught him in the back of the head the Bulldogs had already raced to an 18 to0 lead before young was sent off after he jammed in off the wing and whacked Papa high with Bulldog's players rushing in to show their displeasure after the fullback was knocked out cold the night started awfully for the roosters with young burning a challenge on the second play of the night with the Bulldogs taking full advantage with three quick tries as Kika and Matt buron terrorized them down the left but the tricolors came out of the half timee break as a completely different side while the Bulldog simp imploded Egan butcher bagged a double while nahu white and Joseph Manu also crossed Burton scored his third of the night but the roosters who were down to 11 after losing Victor Radley to the sinin for a hip drop tackle managed to score to keep the pressure on despite some desperate attempts from The Roosters the Bulldogs managed to hang on tail of two halves there's no other way to describe what went on at a core Stadium on Friday night everything that could go wrong did for the roosters while the Bulldogs became the entertainers and shot out to a 26 nil lead in front of the 2004 Premiership winning Squad who were in attendance for a 20-year reunion leading the charge was Matt Burton who scored 22 of the Bulldogs 30 points with a hatrick albe at one of those tries came late in the game he also set up a try got two line [Music] breaks a line break assist add 99 running meters there was also bilam Kea who caused the rooster's right Edge absolute Havoc according to J Arrow who joined the fox League in the first half alone Kika recorded seven tackle busts two line breaks and 149 running meters to produce what Steve blocker roach said was one of the most damaging halves of footy he'd ever seen from a second rower The Roosters were left shell shocked and without three star players more on that below they haven't come out of the sheds they've been ambushed roach said after a Daniel knock on but then the script was flipped the roosters came alive in the second half while the Bulldogs completely imploded The Roosters scored four tries in 17 minutes to give the Bulldogs what fox League commentator Warren Smith summed up at the scare of their lives I thought the first 30 minutes was our best Boogie we've played that I can remember and then we probably had our worst 40 minutes of the season in the second half Bulldog's coach Cameron Caldo said their second half comeback was led by veteran 58 Luke Kiri who set up two tries and Joseph Manu who finished with a try a try assist and 154 running meters after shifting to fullback but it was too little too late Carnage as both sides cop injury blows if a loss wasn't bad enough The Roosters walked away from a core Stadium nursing some bumps and bruises and looming suspensions the chaos started 18 minutes into the game when Sam Walker CED an accidental knee to the back of the head and was wiped out of the game 5 minutes later Captain James Tedesco was on the receiving end of a barnstorming billy amiki and was also ruled out of the game 3 minutes after that Dom young was sent off for a high shot on Blake tofa the star Winger now faces a Serv wait for the charge sheet which will drop on Saturday morning Victor Radley was then sent to the sinin in the final8 minutes for what was deemed to be a hip drop tackle while coach Trent Robinson thought it was a ridiculous decision to give Radley his marching orders the starlock also faces a nervous wait for the Bulldogs tafa failed his hea Harrison Edwards was taken from the field on a medy cap due to a neck injury and B Willam Ika pushed through a knee injury late in the game coach Cameron Caldo also revealed postgame that Kurt man played 60 minutes with a broken hand while Connor Tracy suffered a cap strain in the second half Carnage in the conditions and it's been uncomfortable viewing at times it's hard to put it into words Fox League expert James Graham said [Music] me
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BigBangTheoryRL X+ Reality Show (Linux Inside) ~ September 4-5ish 2012
[Music] [Laughter] [Music] I [Music] [Laughter] [Music] all righty it's uh 21 hours and 7 minutes into the day of Tuesday September 4th 2012 and this is the first segment of big bang hereo we're sort of getting a little start today uh uh in terms of the episode I went out to my my uh parents house for dinner around uh 6:00 that would be uh 8 18 hours into the day I'm trying not to use the military time 1800 18800 hours because as you may well know it's only a 24-hour clock and there's not 1,800 hours in a day there only 24 hours in a day so basically uh the standard Convention of time a.m. and p.m. it's broke the clock it's broken down to 2 12 hours uh you have an a.m half that is 12 hours and a p.m. half that is 12 hours so if you want to know in the full 24 hours where you are on the day if it's p.m. all you do is take the number let's say 6:00 at 12 to it 12 + uh 6 is 18 that gives you 18 hours in the day that's where we're into now no that's where I went to to my parents house for dinner so yeah my day started 18 hour uh 18 hours into the day of uh September 4th I think it's September 4th right that's what I said before yeah Tuesday September 4th but but don't forget this where it becomes a a real issue is that uh I ended my day around uh 12:30 uh uh 12:30 yeah 12 hours and 30 minutes into the day of into today's day and that's what you I was temped to go say into the day of Tuesday uh September 4th 200 that's today though but in your mind because the way you think about things as you when you wake up from sleeping you're starting something sort of new uh the mind doesn't necessarily click in that is the same day even though it is the same day and you try to treat that earlier hour as a different day so that's sort of the perspective that sort of evolves uh from in there anyway I got some interesting uh some uh tweets and uh comments from uh MC uh who's uh trust me I'm weird and I think that uh what I'm going to do is I'm going to continue on uh in my explan of things I'm not going to sort of just simply put out the one statement that I had made uh in that came up uh on the the August 31st Ed uh episode of Big Bang crl a large chunk of it was uh was sort of uh about uh the myth of gay mythology and the myth of a gay marriage and there still needs more explanation because this topic is actually very huge topic it goes into history and there's a lot of history to really sort of digest and it's not sufficient to do it in I know YouTube likes uh YouTube considers 5 minutes long but this isn't going to be 5 10 15 even even 15 minutes in length there's hours in years worth of research that that uh could and should be brought forward uh into this particular issue so and not this that sort of effect and sort of intersect with this issue uh and because uh history is not all about gay marriage and so on so forth but it does intersect uh you do have uh a sort of a prolonged history if you go back into let's say the ancient Greeks where uh in many cases historians believe that there you know homosexuality was practiced but if you go into the laws and the anals you read the original Greek text while there was a tolerance for homosexuality the official line the official laws were F fundamentally against it in other words uh it didn't matter whether or not uh the society was Christian or not homosexuality was never viewed as being part of the norm or being normal so history in terms of uh in terms of homosexuality being normal uh history is is is not on the side of homosexuality and neither is uh most cultures historically in the world uh anthropology in terms of the even you go going into the anthropological studies of tribes and stuff like that even to go the Primitive societies there really isn't a support for uh homosexuals in the society at large uh this is not to say that also these religions that they were pract and religion is the practice of a particular belief and it doesn't matter what the belief is as long as you believe something and you practice that belief then you have a religion this is why she said well one of her comments was that homosexuality isn't religion the problem is because there isn't proof there's an absence of proof of homosexual in terms of its nature then it automatically shifts over to belief and because the intellectual interaction with belief and religion uh from the university is to to term it myth and methology then we treat things and this is I'm trying to keep things as academic as possible and not go into personal beliefs then you instead of because there is no proof of homosexuality being a natural phenomenon or something natural it is now it goes back to belief it moves back to a belief and because people practice on this belief there is a religion of homosexuality this is sort of how it turns itself out when you turn things into their anthropological uh understandings further if you use the terminology that is used in anthropology to describe beliefs and the systems that derve from beliefs that's that in other words you myth in mythology then you cannot isolate uh homosexuality or or any belief another above another belief everyone all these beliefs have to have a myth mythology including homosexuality if it's a belief in other words you can't because you're a homosexual you and you and you you're studying anthropology and you see that that uh homosexuality does not have the proof that it says it does and therefore it now becomes a belief in this then you cannot say that your belief is significant better than another person's belief or another tribe's belief that you call mythology so if one belief is a mythology that all beliefs are mythology until proven [Music] otherwise and this is sort of the position that of taken with homosexuality it is not a personal sight it is a categorization of a belief in the anthrop anthropological manner that all beliefs are categorized in and yes this is going to hurt a lot of people but the thing is and this is I have a lot of great gay friends who are going to be hurt by this but the thing is is that with where the the coral or the other side comes is that uh as we go through the research and bring some of the stuff out uh even Christians on the right are going to be hurt by this because when I talk about Christian fundamentalism I'm not talking about the the the the the commonly known Christian fundamentals fundamentalists because they were around in 18 uh their their fundamentals uh are around the 1800s and Christ was at 0 ad right you can't talk about the Roman Catholics as being the church because they came up at a, ad so neither the nothing from the Catholics on are the fundamentals of Christianity the fundamentals of Christianity is from 800 800 ad in Prior that's the fundamentals of Christianity that's and and that that's based on a historical and anthropological scale not on our own personal perspective of what we consider to be the church or or or or you know whether it's Roman Catholicism or this or that or any of these other derivatives is historically Roman catholism and everything that comes out of Roman catholism including the Evangelical movement known as a Christian writ of the Christian fundamentals these are all derivatives of Christianity they're not Christianity themselves and all these people now how can you saying that well that's what historically is there and you can follow the derivations in history of how these different groups and actions and denominations evolve and why they evolve and so I said I'm going to try to keep the argument here as academic as possible and not really get into my own personal beliefs uh and I said leave the the decision and what you accept is true and not true up to yourself I will be providing references to go and do a further study but the further study is not a minute study it is significant and is in depth it is on the level where you might in terms of the grade level uh this girl is uh MC is 14 years old I'm talking about something that in terms of your depth of study I'm talking Graduate Studies or more in Graduate Studies or more Graduate Studies or greater is after it's it's it's the schooling after your first level of University the first level of University it's not the first year it's the first four years you have the bachelor's degree most people stop at their bachelor's degree and then there's graduate school after that for those who want to go further for their masters and PhD they go uh to graduate school and this is what I'm talking about the research that that really gets into the nitty-gritty here is graduate school level and Beyond other words you're you're you're going beyond the text but you're going Beyond uh what somebody tells you into really researching and finding the original sources and trying to understand what was said when and how it fits into everything and this is a it's a complex process it's not simple it and it can't be distilled in 15 minutes this is WR it can't be distilled in 15 minutes there's no way to do it there's too much information and even if I could distill things down to a certain degree when I put this out there there are things you're going to need to go check out there are things you need to for yourself that you need to understand for yourself just because I went through an ex amount of research and went down a particular research fth even if you came down the same research path that I went down there's no guarantee that you're going to see what I saw or understand what I understood and the thing is I'm still on that path I'm not finished on that path yet there's still a lot more to go so I this is where I'm going to sort of handle things how I'm going to handle it because [Music] and again it ends up boing down to your perspective do you see life as being bad and horrible and only looking at the negative things or do you see the positive things in your life the things that are good in your life even though you do have things that are bad in your life and if you're always dwelling on the negative it doesn't matter how much good you have in your life you'll always see the negative if you see a lot of positive and you try to look for positive stuff then in many cases this is where you see people who have a lot of Horrors in their life become very resilient and say I can push through this and I said this is this is how you have choices this is how you deal with it this is how you proceed in order to find where you want to be or what your life is going to be like so anyways I'm going to leave this segment here like this for now and I'm going to Mill about and do the rest of the day the rest of the day starts now all righty yeah it's uh 3:00 in the morning it's Wednesday September 5th 2012 this is the second segment of uh big bank crls for today well you know what I'm talking about the current period of time that I call a day and as you all know that day that period of time could be within one day it could be over period two days 3 days yeah so uh I'm uploading uh a comment comments why uh hoping that uh we'll see how it goes in terms of uh spurning a new discussion on the internet about uh gay marriage and uh the what call the game mythology and this is a term that I use uh as I said it's an anthropological term that applies to any belief system that can't be proven that fals in in other words um it's something that falls back into Bel it doesn't have uh what is called the the superior intellect that most intellectuals associate with it uh this is something that occurs that actually started in in the 1970s when uh the intellectual uh intellectuals at universities started pushing the concept that uh all the mythologies and including Christianity which was which they call the mythology were all these sort of uh madeup things that uh no one could believe in or or in other words they were means of explaining things that people didn't understand and it was somewhat well not somewhat it was tacitly dismissed and taken as the assumption that but but only through assertion that uh the intellectualism of the time wesing thought was the superior thought to all the thoughts that this was scientific and so on so forth and uh this was the concept that was pushed forward however uh come forward to today and a large chunk of the Notions that really pushed intellectualism intellectualism in the 1970s have has kind of Fallen apart uh they have this sort of uh fatal optimistic that the next time the next generation will get a right this time and they never actually do this is to let people know for who don't know that uh socialism intellectualism is is not new it's actually rather old and this actually before 1970 197 was just sort of the last phase the last major shift of it uh it was sort of the age of uh uh the the Space Age of Enlightenment if you will people were you know that's when they were landing on the moon uh you had uh science was at its peak and really you know pushing forward and no one expected the collapse that would occur in 1980 of this uh supposedly intellectual society and the collapse came after that long recession in the 1970s and now this is something [Music] that it's it's kind of hard to hard to deal to do here because people say that reveals a generation gap that U revealing my age but that's only if you consider that uh uh if you don't consider the people who they don't look into history in other words they've got a dissociation from history to a point that the only thing they know about history is stuff they've experienced so if it's before they were born and that's usually the the comment you get is that well that I don't know about that that was before I was born assuming that um the reason you know about all this stuff is because you live through it well this true to a degree but a large chunk of what I know about what happened in the 1970s also comes from uh studying and reading uh and it's my library work my library research there's a lot there's a lot of and people don't realize this and this sort of I'm explain here there's a lot of information that's hidden from us the stuff that's taught in schools particularly up until the first and second year of University it's all prepared for us to show us a particular thought and idea on how Society should be in other words these are uh they're blinders they try to steer us in a particular direction and very few people really break out of the mold and sort of let's think a little different let's sort of poke and see where the holes are in this particular view of society and uh sort of go where you're not supposed to go but that's kind of what I did is I'm the type of I'm not the uh genius identic memory like the way Sheldon Cooper is uh my sort of broad view of of everything in terms of my exploration of the universe really is more akin to I end up in places that I shouldn't end up I poke and ask questions where I shouldn't be asking questions and this in many cases gets me into a lot of trouble but it's also kind of how I figure things out so it's not that I'm going after somebody to sort of ruin their their uh ideals or burst their bubble or anything like that it's a matter of this is how I poke around to find out and understand the world around around me and and around myself so is it's not it's not sort such a a genius type of thing as it is that uh I'm just sort of wandering through the stacks of a library uh picking up different things that I find interesting and then going from there so it's it is as uh in quantum physics say the random walk and 20 years on from the random walk I started off doing puzzles and uh looking for bizarre uh documentaries and here I am now 20 years later and I have a lot of knowledge about things that uh that aren't typically taught in schools and this is where I hope the discussion that I'm uploading now I'm beginning to upload discussion uh game methology and game marriage I'm hoping to open up a discussion uh and SP discussion on the internet that is not typical to open up and pke holes and things where typically normally you're not supposed to open up into poal because again there is a new morphology a new paradigm now where you're not supposed to question homosexuality if you question homosexuality you're a homophobe you're a hate Monger you're this you're that and uh the number of names that come out uh kind of become the contradiction to this whole thing on cyber bullying not supposed to bully people but bullying occurs uh whenever you uh go from an open and free discussion to uh a sort of a mean attack and an an an ad hamen attack on a person who simply is expressing an an opposing view and trying to sort of poke around and see what is what so that's what's going on now I hope that this will make in some ways will make uh big bang Ser the reality show more interesting because I hope to sort of this will be the interactive portion comments why in in in the uh the uh playlist uh big uh big bang her RL y that that that's the list of under uh this will sort of be the interactive part is how you can interact with the with um the show so hope this go well it's uploading now it's going to take about an hour well no more than an hour says here 94 minutes to upload so it's going to take some time and then after that after I've done this here after I've done the up uploading for this uh the next thing that comes up is uh I'll be doing the next uh episode epod of big editing the next episode of big bank crl so I think it's going to be another really really long night anyways uh that's it for about now for that's it for now I'll review this to see if I F forgot anything that happens sometimes I start talking and I can't remember where I was in the beginning and now I've kind of Forgotten what uh I was talking about to a certain degree that I don't know if I've left anything out and if I have I'll come back and I'll do another second add another segment we'll talk about this a little a little bit more all right see you in the next segment it's uh 630 in the morning yeah 6 hours and 28 minutes into the day or 6 hours and 30 minutes into the day of uh and yeah Wednesday September 5th still going at the editing death just finished editing uh the uh episode for uh September 1st to September 4th it kind of gets us up to that point there we're basically uh just I think one day off not bad uh we're achieving the uh the 30 minute Mark we maybe this this one's the 10 maybe 10 minutes under but we're getting closer to that uh to that that that [Music] um the 30 minute reality show Mark that's uh being achieved a lot better A lot more smoother than it was before and uh this is uh the second video of the day I'm going to try and do more than that that's the whole goal is to start you know to be able to do more than just two videos a day and so that's the next now that I've got two videos done got that out and I'm getting caught up with the uh with the uh episode schedule yay that's good so anyway uh it's going to be at least another uh uh 45 minutes before it's done and then once it's done uh it has to go up to YouTube so it's going to take another hour to there i' say another 2 hours 6:30 now I say we the ending time will be anywhere between 8:30 and 9:00 in the morning which isn't too bad it's better than uh noon so that's what happened any if you noticed uh uh uh when I said I had finished at noon uh that uh that's in the episode that's uploading if you if if you watch that episode that it was kind of dark in the background well there had just been a massive thunderstorm and it was it the amount of light that was coming through was as if it was night time so it was 12:00 noon anyway uh uh that's it for this segment and I'll see you in the next one it's 10:30 a.m. and uh it's the end of the day yeah I got through everything everything's been posted it's up on the social networks uh Facebook Myspace uh um Twitter Tumblr a little bit so I'm done that's it for today and I will be back tomorrow or my tomorrow which is in a few hours start the next episode of The Big Bang the RL stay [Music] tuned [Music] welcome welcome to the library I in the [Music] library I am the professor and professor of what professor of physics Free Speech rules here at Democratic Earth
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Sugarplum Farm of Temecula Petting Zoo and Reptile Encounter | Halloween event 2020 | Reptiles
um good morning hello um we with this interesting guy and the princess uh arrived to a farm which is a farm turn around and that's a little petting zoo here near temecula california and they're making some little reptile event today and um so yeah let's see um hey there you're back so we're going to pet the animals so we don't want to freak them out with a scary mask so let's see what we have here sleigh bell and snowflake oh so pretty hi you can give it some hay but she said not too much right [Music] so beautiful [Music] and there are goats right the other one oh look at that he's so cute a small [Music] okay we'll see oh you found this bird hello does it like hey [Music] do you like him she does no these are very interesting birds they have right very interesting hey [Music] a camel yeah so i think this might be a lady pheasant oh hey there hey there sweetie look the camel's name is gross all right and this golden pheasant is such a show-off look at him he is harassing that other bird he keeps scaring that one around and showing him who is the boss so funny poor bird okay there's a camel [Music] what a beauty um she's got curly even when he's being attacked by an alien creature little ponies so small they're really small they're the size of the big dog [Music] a long long time he's really sweet yeah what is this thing you're wearing is some kind of skin all right i was right see i'm educated already by christopher oh so this is the thing you wanted to have oh it does have a blue tongue this thing can bite off your hands so um and what and this is is that a birdie dragon yeah is that a toad uh yeah yeah it's a bullfrog sorry sorry i'm getting really distracted what you should wear some some metal gloves or something oh no they don't bite i know i this is actually the first one i've seen but they're definitely out here oh it's so pretty though i know he seems like he kind of wants to attack but there he goes he's yeah he's just gonna run right off wow oh he took out his tongue for me that's nice okay so it looks like they're shedding there we had them here last weekend somebody actually did shed while they were here but this one's just probably from like last weekend or another event so it kind of just depends but yeah that's pretty cool wait you can pet him [Music] it's funny a lot of people don't realize i mean they they're slow yeah but if you look away for you know in a couple minutes they could easily be gone but [Music] there's a thing right here what is in there i don't know it's it's like it's like a ground pop smelled my finger and grabbed it with this with his long fingernails oh you're holding it [Music] very much oh that's a beautiful chicken [Music] beautiful yeah i like the white ones she wants to stay yeah there's a sign you can go in get in he's observing me what is fluffy hey buddy you are spiky a big boy yeah she will snort she says hello mate is asking for food like see it's empty somebody oh you've got a friend [Music] she's fluffy and pretty big [Music] this guy is my favorite he is so beautiful and so social and he looks so smart hello ophelia ophelia likes being brushed and she likes selfies right do you want a selfie christopher that's a beautiful self okay so this is your best friend christopher so nice she is very nice very sweet yeah she tries to eat your clothes from time to time okay so i guess that's it we're about to leave so this was our short trip to a little petting zoo in um sugar plum farms it's called it's it's in temecula bye guys thank you for watching see you later
Crazy or not?
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Tony Baxter wants a Figment movie and ride retheme!
hi everyone welcome back today i'm going to talk about one of my favorite rides journey into imagination with figment for those of you who don't know i did the disney college program and figment was my ride i loved working there so much and he means so much to me i also have a little too much figma merge as you can see at a recent virtual event disney legend and imagineer tony baxter spoke about the ride which he created the most exciting thing that he said is that he would love to do a figment movie i want this so much he said and i quote maybe we can even do a film that would even be better a full length animated feature film starring figment let's do a kickstarter right now now this is obviously not an official announcement but it is an amazing idea i don't think that figment is popular enough to get a theatrical release movie but he could totally get a tv series or film on disney plus so disney if you are listening please make this happen additionally during this event tony baxter again said that he would be willing to come out of retirement to redo the ride i know that everyone loves the original ride and i do agree it is amazing but because i worked on the current version i really don't want it to change especially since my other two workplaces captain eo and character sport are gone now but if it does change i'm not gonna start a petition or do anything crazy figment will still be there and i'll be fine anyway that's all for today please like this video if you liked it and please subscribe it would mean so much to me bye now and have a magical day
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Growing Local // Global Networks: Opus | CfWR | Citizen Network
happened because one of our fellows math potts um who is heading up camarado's an amazing project encouraged me uh this before covet to go out and talk to people about what we were doing he said this is you've got some great stuff here you should go and tell people and get them involved and so i started to nervously do that and i was very lucky to meet bob and johnny but also people like joe duran from lan kelly chase who's also been a great help to us and so this is partly um i'm going to give you a little bit of a description for 5-10 minutes about the three co-hosting organizations in our relationship and the work we're doing and then there's going to be some sessions so i'm going to put some slides up about that um and hopefully you can see that okay yeah yeah so we're going to be talking about and oh that's a reminder wendy we should probably everybody should mute except when they're talking because to avoid feedback another interference so we're going to be talking about the work of these three organizations in six rooms and then there's a and then we'll come back together and let together as part of the losing control network process but this is certainly a chance for us to share what we've been doing for several years now and really it's an opportunity to encourage people to think about whether you'd like to get involved with us in some way would you like to work with us in some way the picture here on the right of the screen anybody who's been to sheffield will be familiar with and because it's up on the way up from the railway station and it's the name of sheffield's brilliant magazine now then uh we stumbled across now then my wife and i um several years before we actually met the people at opus independence who were behind this piece of um journalistic brilliance uh and and my wife does like to remind me that for years she said you should go and work with these guys they're really good but uh so um yeah let's the the underlying philosophy of of the work of i think these three organizations and the things we've helped create uh was put together one of our friends tim mckeel to put this little graphic together may seem a little bit silly to you but to me it's perfect you know why can't we be different and equal that is what citizenship means for us when we talk about citizenship that's what we're talking about we're not talking about passports we're talking about every unique individual being able to live a life of meaning and of significance and being respected for what they are and and actually enjoying the fact that human beings should be different from one another that's one of the kind of beautiful things about the world we're not interested in in kind of creating artificial boundaries and limitations and you know one of the things behind our work has been about probably exploding the notion that countries are a very good way of thinking about how we make the world better that's not to say countries don't have a purpose or a value but we sometimes seem to get a bit trapped by those that way of thinking about things and i i was talking to one potential funder for our work but in the end her foundation said well you're just too local and too global and i mean i don't know i mean i guess i can understand that i think from some perspectives that's maybe we are too local and too global but i rather love that about what we're doing to me that's that's the wonderful thing i'm based in sheffield i love sheffield i love my city i love my neighborhood but i also love connecting with people in new zealand and spain and india and africa and talking about what they're doing and learning from them i can't i can't see that there is anything as such as too local or too global i'm going to come back to this at the end so you don't need to worry about this but these are our six rooms it was hard working out what to cover in the in and who to introduce you to anybody who's turned up today um but this is how we've broken it up into these kind of six themes the work we're doing to grow citizen network as a global cooperative the work that we're doing led by james and johnny around the development of the ubi lab network and opus's work in alternative independent media the work of catherine hale steph bensterd on chronic illness inclusion the work that angela fell is leading on neighborhood democracy and clive's work at tumbledown farm chris is going to talk about some of the kind of really groundbreaking work he's doing on reorganizing social care and glenn about the amazing peer support work of pfg doncaster and finally but not last but certainly not least wendy karen and kelly will talk about the idea of the keys to citizenship and about the importance of including everybody in the citizenship journey so that's what we're going to you're going to have a chance to go and meet some of those folk and talk to them this is just a few slides and thoughts about this all-encompassing network that we're building i was very inspired by one of my heroes is a guy called john o'brien and when i was telling him about what we were doing and i was explaining it i was using the metaphor of trees and he said you know don't you the trees communicate underground that and then i discovered later this concept of the wood wide web and the fungal networks that allow trees to communicate and also allow help the soil transform energy and into nutrients for trees i think i think this is a really interesting kind of metaphor for thinking about what what we've been doing we've been growing networks of trust and communication all around the world and in localities i think helping people tap into the energy that's often missing um this this little image is from my back garden because i was then thinking of a picture of three trees and i googled three trees and i didn't like any of the images i saw i've got three little trees in the back of my garden so i went and took a picture of them but those are the three trees where who are hosting opus independence is actually the oldest of the organization founded in 2008 um the center for welfare reform a year later in 2009 um and then citizen network was set up in 2016 and yeah what what we're trying to do here is encourage you to join in and and help out with the work that we're doing um this gives you an overview of what um of the three different kind of platform organizations and i'm not going to go and read through all of those different things and we can share this stuff afterwards but as you can see this this work is of considerable uh spread we're starting to connect with lots of different people in lots of different places some in in in specific cities like sheffield but much of that work is now spread to manchester some right across the world with kind of global audiences and we're doing work that has real impact the fact that the welsh government recently declared a commitment to pilot basic income just last week is very much um a part of the work that's come out of ubi lab network ubi lab comri and many other positive developments it's very having real world effect this work and we're working in all sorts of ways just this afternoon i was just talking to somebody who wants to support the sharing of poetry through citizen network poetry about citizenship so we've got all sorts of things from big policy things to small things that help people's imagination grow and develop and these are some of the things that we've done going back to opus distribution which involved making sure that people got information in in the city and providing an information sharing service very directly non-digitally through to very recent things like the creation of citizen network tv and many other things in between some of which we can talk about and he's here's a kind of picture of some of the various logos many of these things are flourishing and fine and and going off in new directions some of these things were experiments that didn't work out so well the campaign for a fair society morphed into the learning disability alliance england which itself then became the foundation for learning disability england so some things change and some things are experiments and but all of this work is um i think rather beautifully interlinked some of it has a kind of viral impact so there are now i think johnny will probably correct me every time i ask there's one more than i remember but i think we're up to 40 ubi labs now and this this growth has come through a very intentional strategy to make it easy for people to get involved in in spreading the word and campaigning and mobilizing support the census workers very much focused on independent research citizen research citizen thinking and making it easy to distribute sometimes very very detailed things steph's book 7 class citizens is i think 300 odd pages of very detailed analysis of government policy some things are much simpler than that but what we're seeing is we're providing an opportunity for ordinary people for professionals for people doing the real work um people not the people getting all the money but the people doing the real work coming up with new ideas new practices giving them a platform to get their ideas out there and there's like over 1 200 items in the census library at the moment all freely available here's the uh this year's program this is the seventh festival debate that's launched um and you know an amazing programme of events the biggest independent political festival in the uk and also an integral part to the emerging citizen fest network that's now reaches seven cities against something else that's just been developed between us but is growing in strength and reach citizen network has 800 individual members and 207 group members so these are organizations or associations some very large organizations some tiny organizations who've joined citizen network all around the world as you see there are some places where there are a lot of red blobs and there are some places with very few but again all of this has been done with very limited resources people being drawn together by values and shared practices and trust and commitment to the idea of citizenship and equality for all i think behind these logos and practices and projects are a set of strategies i don't i'm not suggesting in any sense when i came up with this list it was i did it quite quickly i just thinking about what we what we have been doing and i'm sure that we've got a lot still to learn about how to do this stuff well but i think the kind of thing we've done is is we've made it easy for people to join in if you've got a little bit of energy it's easy to join in it's easy for people if you with a little bit of intention to start sharing audiences and sharing content and make things grow bigger we've been designing platforms for change that is led by citizens and we've been connecting globally not just for the sake of it but because actually that global connection makes people more powerful locally um just this week we've been training people in self-directed support in italy greece and spain by connecting them to people who've been doing things in scotland as are really cool and so they learn things and then what that process leads to is that us able to share back more learning and feed that back and through that process people become stronger and the change becomes stronger we've been supporting independent research the work of the chronic illness inclusion community that you'll hear about if you join that group is amazing and and probably the leading example of this in our community but there's also some other great research independent researchers doing really amazing work who've been looking for a home looking a place a way that they can publish their work we're also trying to make it easy for people to share good practice and get good ideas and easily move things forward and that's very much the heart of the neighborhood democracy work that angela is leading and i think a big part of it is just helping people have faith and trust to start cooperating better helping each other better when you hear from glenn about the work of peer support at the heart of that is people helping people and and there is nothing more powerful than that i think so this these three slides come from esther ortega who's actually the spanish coordinator of citizen network and she's also an amazing graphic artist and but these are key elements you know we would yes we're talking about big ideas yes we need to come together to do that but we also need to keep it personal it also needs to be something that's an individual thing it's about people's passions it's about love in a way it's all really about love and trying to change the world in a way that's um all about communicating with love and supporting things worthy of love and it is about networks which is not the normal way of organizing things but is a very powerful way we think of organizing things very different to the normal hierarchical structures that dominate so much of modern life but we think there is a way in which these networks can become just really powerful so we think we need to work together to encourage a new attitude and ethic to test new practices structures and platforms to advance citizenship for absolutely everyone and to tackle the real and urgent challenges we all face this is a poster from i think that was in new york i just thought that was really cool um so you know we we hope you'll be inspired by some of the ideas you'll hear about in the in the successions um if you if you want to take any of those ideas away and use them in your work that's brilliant but even better is if you could come and join us so these are our six sessions and i think uh johnny is going to kind of take over from me so i can stop shall i keep that up johnny or shall you want to use the one on your slides so that is helpful if you keep it up so now we're gonna we're gonna move on to the breakout rooms and we're gonna test something new maybe for some of you but zoom now lets the participants choose the room that they want to go to i don't have to assign you to a room so i'll open the rooms and we'll be able to select there'll be a button for you to select your room if you don't manage to do that no problem at all just stay here in the main room and let me know where you want to go either you can just show me with your hands you know one two three and i'll allocate you or you can just pop it in the chat and then we're gonna allocate all of you um to the rooms yeah i'm gonna open them now and one second i have opened the rooms
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Craft and Chat with JBug and Shirley
what if you've had already okay video no I don't want integrated they are very pretty so Sorella definitely gets points for that I mean if anything she's going to serve on the Aesthetics we all know this in addition to the chords you're going to get a couple of keys so the key looks just like this and we're gonna put a hook together shortly so I'll show you exactly how that key works you're also going to get several Stoppers and these Stoppers go okay oh I don't have it plugged in oh I was wondering [Music] there's the plug and where's the there's the one okay HD Pro webcam there we are inside okay we are alive not only in the house but also on the team of the course as well as the connectors the whole thing screams so relatively over here we'll see what that does what I believe is I have 46 inch cord I'm also going to grab a stopper and a key so I can put everything together first off I'm going to open up my cord so you can see that my cord has an algae there so this is now Flex I should only have to turn this maybe a quarter turn Max um and then the last step here is to take the stopper and put that on the end of the cord as well and then I'll need to tighten this there okay I have been using these hooks over the last several weeks I wanted to get some good timing with them before I really gave you my thoughts one of which is my credenza wrap that I'm making for my crochet a long time so this is what it looks like so far okay I've worked with this entire project with my minerals so relation crochet hooks now we're set ting okay yeah I'm ready isn't that a pretty Stitch yeah I just love it get my color and I wanted to show you so you can see how things start to go onto the port as well now one thing to note about this is good right like they're not so important I have a lot of feelings about that a lot of feelings about that we're going to get into it shortly but let's just demo what we have okay I think we can shut the door in a window now okay I have oh yes I forgot [Laughter] where did I put my face well you can just hit the off button on the side there we go hmm [Music] you might want to warm it up Michael it's gotten a little cold now it doesn't smell like smoke in here that's not your fault it is too I know but don't blame yourself Excellence happen you know yep did you burn the house down no he'll complain about me ruining the nice meat that he bought what you didn't mean it and he's not going to buy me chicken anymore because I can't cook it right the oven is out of order what it is well this is the last two times I tried to cook in it did this beeping along with an error message that happened so I don't know I should find TL Yarn Crafts on um Instagram IG Instagram that's what I should do right now I'm going to share us out questions let's see oh I went too far in this needs to go there okay sure come join us um oh post yeah and then share to my news feed on here see oh come join us post okay that is finish or is it finishing I am gonna put this over here and continue to crochet Tunisian crochet yay yay Tunisian crochet TL Yarn Crafts got me going again on this and I like it so much because it has some beautiful stitches you know you're making that for Michael huh yes he liked the Stitch so I'm gonna use it he's a good young man I may end up having to get more yarn but yeah that's okay this is the anti-pill stuff the basic Stitch so I will have to make sure that whatever I get is still the guy on anti-pill stuff and the color is you know but if I get more of this I want to get big uh thing inside it Halo oh my God silly silly son silly Silly Willy even though his name's Michael [Laughter] I burned our dinner today nah don't worry about it well it wasn't my art dinner we had what what I was gonna make for us I know oh yeah I know the thing is I was gonna spend more time but I burned it it's your chicken your microwave no I should have checked to see how long to cook it in the microwave and I know that's what Tim is gonna say we got Chihuahua oh Chihuahua huh I love my doggies yeah I know he's a good young man your puppy dog a young man he's an old goat I thought he was a puppy dog he's an old puppy [Music] years old I don't know exactly how old he is that's okay restream has come out with some new stuff including this support this um whatever this is um stream wow if anybody's gonna do anything about it but I I try it again you know that light rail goes over to Mercer Island now it does yeah hahaha wait they're really I hope they have the money for spending on all this yeah the cities I know it's just it's just the way it is the way our third our budget you know like like me I loose to get invitex like 300 but I don't get it anymore because I've been getting more than my brother oh yeah because he's not working much well if he's not working much then he shouldn't be paying that much I know and maybe that's why he's not getting maybe that's why he's not getting as much because he hasn't been working as much no he didn't I thought he was retired he's actually um part-time oh I'm part-time but I may I make more than he does because actually you're more on the full-time side of things five hours yeah for four days five days a week yeah 25. and that's okay I am uh I'm Gonna Save it save my retirement yes when I retire I won't lose it no you won't because it's your retirement yeah and then once you're retired you'll get Social Security and that you can't lose no I'm already on Social Security but I'm not making that's a different kind of Social Security disabled yes yeah and that's disability yeah but I don't figure myself being handicapped though no and don't even call it that no I don't like that word yeah I'm sorry I just know I don't either it's just uh Kevin's gonna get on Social Security though Kevin yeah my brother oh your brother okay my brother I'm like going who's Kevin it's your brother my bro I followed my bro you call him your bro yeah because I love him dimebruder excuse me right yeah in German your brother I'm gonna learn that learn it I'm gonna learn how to speak German with my brother too he's sometimes speaks it really yeah so he knows some yeah because he was in uh he was in Germany in an army ah he's still in he's part of the he gets pension from the army yes just like my Dad we got pension from the Navy my my dad isn't was in the Air Force and he probably gets a pension from the Air Force yeah well where is everyone I mean come on where are you sue um hello Zach hi Zach thank you for coming how are you Zach what you up to besides working no good no I'm just kidding and are you doing any crocheting these days I was hiding from Shirley you good luck teasing you sure sure are you are you hiding from me because you don't want to see me no no he's being a joking I know you're joking I am doing Tunisian crochet and the blanket I'm working on is for my son he turned 28 on Tuesday I'm making an Afghan for my I'm crocheting a scarf right now he says oh you are let's get what color nice what color Zach oh excuse me smart what happened and part of this part of my knee tract oh that's so fun no it's just that a leaf green color I don't know what a leaf green color is because there's lots of different colors green colors of leaves are you making it for yourself Zach or I'm big man I wish I hadn't done that to our dinner because it really has bothered my I have a sensitivity to smoke is that smell is gone not quite but for the most part yeah and hopefully Tim doesn't say a word if he does don't feel bad I won't ah so this this is a green color tube at the lightest too much this is a regular green color thank you I'm using basic Stitch and type pilling yarn and what do they call this color grass I'm using grass green [Laughter] he picked the colors green and yellow for his afghan blanket and the Stitch I'm doing is called the lattice Stitch open lattice Stitch I don't know what uh I can't remember what she called it we've got two people oh I know is I learned that I'm also making a baby blanket with it that Stitch and Tunisian crochet hooks I got myself a new set of hooks for Tunisian crochet and it has the wire instead of the plastic cord stuff Hello Katrina how are you doing what you up to and how's that little rugrat no how's your little one I can call my grandkids red Rugrats but I can't call somebody else's kids oh well that's not nice yeah my brother I was teasing him how's the rut rat is it who well he's not a Rugrat anymore no Calvin is not he's he was a long time ago six years ago yeah when there's when they're crawling that's when they're called when you can call them Rugrats I know it's surely be having herself I guess so I guess I am she's she's behaving I've been good at work and she's been good every time she comes to my house yeah extra good yeah but if I don't bring extra food oh don't worry about that surely I told you not to I know but like you do you okay I know I'm not worried about it if Tim doesn't like it then that's his problem you do you hello Mark Rob long time no see I haven't uh been watching too many shows lately so that's why I haven't uh so mark when when do you go online when do you do your uh live streams and paint she can sit by herself now oh cool she's doing good she will be nine months on Monday oh man pretty soon she'll be going to school is that your little kid yes her little daughter yes wow okay come on [Music] okay this is true irritating me don't fall in Michael I'm kidding what in Heaven's name I'm kidding something is wrong here um fly away fly away I'll Fly Away o Glory I'll Fly Away [Laughter] Fly Away that old song my daddy flew away in 2016. my mom and he went to heaven my mom flew away when she went to heaven when she was 59. that was 2 000 [Music] I can't remember I don't think it was 2 000 yet no it was I have a broken hip who does Mark robbed I am so sorry to hear that how did you do that mister mark did you fall down did you fall down or what shall we pray for you heavenly father I asked you to be with Mark Roberts right now and make the hip go away and heal up so he could walk better and not have surgery Lord if it's in your will don't have surgery Lord they if it is to get it fixed right away Lord and thank you for Mark's help thank you for him coming back this see us your name amen amen thank you Shirley yeah that's not you're welcome I just don't want it and it's just Mark Rob not Roberts I know I'm sorry oh okay I just I thought I'd remind you I know I'm sorry Mark Roth so you told you another I didn't mean to call you Mark Roberts my mistake forgive me how did you break it did you sleep on it wrong or how you can't break it by sleeping on it wrong or did you fall it's your fall mark give him a chance huh give him a chance I know he probably just heard the prayer it's hard to get up isn't it I love this I hope Michael does too he got out huh you guys nothing he had surgery and yes he fell down you have a new uh plate in you or a new hip I probably just fixed the break hello Eliza Gail how are you hey Michael can you turn the fan off laughs now Mark Robb he is a wonderful artist he Paints the most wonderful pictures um Eliza Gale I don't know if you've met him yet but uh he is a very good artist and Eliza Gale says how hello and we are doing good I think yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yes I am [Laughter] I am I'm being finalized there sorry he likes kale yeah I I'm accidentally being funny not trying to I'm not trying it's just coming out that way sending prayers Mark Eliza Gail says get well soon mark he's in rehab now getting it making it so he can walk right again Izzy are you home are you no he's in rehab I told you I bet you want to go home don't you nothing but your own bed feels better done I know it oh dear I am how long were you there how long are you there till he's ready to go home that's no one has your sister gone to see you I'm sure and I think it's her his brother and sister-in-law wow and how was your Easter mark did you have Easter there not so many questions all at once yeah no I know I just uh how was everybody's Easter yeah mine was pretty good and then on Tuesday my uh son had his birthday 28. it's hard to believe yeah Eliza Gail says it was fine good how are you Liza Joe are you working on anything she doesn't crochet oh what's your hobby I am blessed man beyond compare it's good to be blessed yep I'm blessed too yeah on Easter we did baptized right oh at church um how many people got baptized six of them six people got baptized on sun on East on Sunday yeah damn mostly one grown-up and five kids even pastors kids got baptized all three of them yeah that's cool we had a whole lot of people there at least more than usual yeah yeah our church is growing it is definitely I still pray for the Aurora one a right Pastor comes but that's in God's timing and it's in his hands yeah and you know I mean Jimmy was there for quite a while 11 years yeah a lot of a lot of years he wanted to better his education yeah like like Scott did well they don't know who that is um oh hi Sue hi I'm home from work but very tired oh must have been a long day been thinking about you sue today it was she said a long day I I'm sorry nobody likes to have those long days we missed you at our little class little class no our little our big class at church we miss you the Taekwondo class yeah you know I've been watching a new well it's not new but it's new to me um podcast on YouTube it's uh TL Yarn Crafts and uh I was doing Tunisian crochet before but not like not much but then I started watching TL Yarn Crafts and she does a lot of Tunisian crochet and so uh it inspired me to pick it up again and so I am using Tunisian crochet again this is what I'm making uh for a friend of mine it's gonna be a blanket yeah for I had the next four days off Yay good for you I am happy for you I I have about I have three more days off yeah because I don't go back until Wednesday ah yeah and that's okay I'm using the same stitch on Michael's blanket that I'm using on the baby blanket that I'm making so um has she it's the lattice Stitch or something like that has your uh family member have a baby yet who once I get this all on here I will show you my um stitch pattern I made a you've probably heard so I made Easter for Julie no not yet May 26 is when she's new okay okay it's good to hear I hope it's a healthy baby I'm sure it will be healthy baby yeah I've been working hard on my second form I will get it so yep you will we got to be patient first you should be practicing the first one too yeah because you have to perform both of them at a test I have okay but this the second one is is harder yeah but I'm gonna get it I know I will pass my girl down the line at the windows that Tim that drift down the driveway I have coveted fog in my head I misplaced my glasses oh so you can't see real well did you leave them at work maybe or in your car I'm almost ready to hold this up and show y'all this is for my son Michael's blanket do I have it plugged in yes okay I'm using my spare reading glasses ah so you can see you lose your excuse me did you lose your eyeballs so I'm kidding I'm getting with you I'm kidding with her sounds like something I'd say I mean I lost my second pair of eyeglass eyeballs kind of laughs I'm sorry Sue I'm just teasing you I love you I think I heard a door shut foreign hello garbage all over my front yard your front yard or you destroy any free buckets all over the place just for fun all right there's antifreeze bucket in my front yard did you work on your car today or did you no I've been there for fun I didn't even know it was there so what are you doing with your car I'm waiting for James what what is your plan he wants he's going to replace that part have you decided it needs that part have you tested it since you put water in it have you made sure the water stayed in it and he stole Sterling to straighten up and fly right I would recover but I'm kind of busy right now and why are you trying to feed the neighborhood rhinoceroses what why is there food all over my front porch I know you didn't realize that was there either I burned dinner I see that that wasn't the question the question is why is there food all over the apartment I had to get it out of the house [Music] because I haven't been able to do anything with it yet okay what is your plan for dealing with it put it in a bag and throw it away because I'm live right now why did you say so happy if you're being wasting my day on a computer I can't believe because there's so much trouble I thought you'd like you yep I cause him lots of problems yeah what do you have to do ability okay now here it is I'm trying to block the light so that y'all can see the stitches hello butter roll boutique how are you doing nice to see you welcome foreign there I am on my return pass now I am still here just putting together my summer top I crocheted cool I should crochet another summer top and figure out how to put it in pattern form if you work on the computers today fine how are you all doing I think this is my first time on your life yes it is and thank you for joining us who's on our life butter roll boutique wow okay as a new person yes welcome [Music] so Katrina do you do um Tunisian crochet or um [Music] thank you I am having fun with this sorry say that again Julie didn't hear you um do you do any Tunisian crochet foreign yes I have done it and I love it yeah I do too think I like this even more than uh knitting although I do like to knit as well as crochet and Tunisian crochet I mean I'm not sure what I just said um but I'm trying the Stitch I'm doing right now is called the lattice lettuce Stitch I think she called it I watched a tutorial on TL Yarn Crafts I'm totally enjoying it but I've been knitting as well go back and forth from crocheting and knitting I haven't knit for a while but um you know I know the basics uh I'm still a noob at it of course I'm still a noob at the Tunisian crochet but I did get myself some better hooks than I had and it's made it easier for me to do it and thank you are you okay Tim no there's nothing no don't take care of yourself I can't believe you're probably so much trouble [Music] okay so these are bamboo Cooks but I like the cord it's record instead of the plastic tubing so it slides much easier up and down and it makes it much easier for me to and I'm doing it faster than I was doing it because the cord is good and I like the shape of the hook better too it um slides really well on that it has um for the most part a nice what did soup though I was still there she did say she was tired though okay I mean after a long day so probably will be better by tomorrow yep yep yep [Music] and I think I really like this Stitch because it just looks pretty I'm doing more charting for work from home you can do that oh you are that's cool I didn't know you can do that suit well I guess there's a remote uh portion to the um software they have it oh her job I found out about my job coach oh has uh sleep at the neck apnea yeah like me she'll just have to get a machine and use it she does I still have remote charting from when I was manager oh okay are you still on the floor a suit oh she just still has the software from when she was oh you're learning that right learning how to do software at work I think she already learned it oh she's at home so you're um yeah you're charting at home oh I'm glad you're able to do it from home the that means you don't have to go in no it means that she can come home and do her charting at home oh yeah and she doesn't have to stay at work until whatever time night because she can do it at home they're normally nurses don't do sharding yeah they do no not not from two she doesn't have to stay at work oh yeah back when it was on paper she did everything's getting computerized yeah that's that's interesting I do it online my uh my cousin does her job online yeah she likes it better she does you're talking about Jody yes she doesn't have to go downtown to China to China China Town oh either hmm I wonder I swear oh what's this um we'll do this you didn't have enough room she had a copy a hole yeah like a um study study like that sure what you're talking the ones that have walls around and she kind of cubicle huh cubicle yeah yes study Carol yeah and she didn't get to get up she had to um eat um her uh luncheon typical yeah that and but she didn't like it uh and now she works at home which is kind of cool yeah yep [Applause] foreign [Music] and why are you getting bigger I've got my first mistake then wow but I didn't want to have to frog it so I I fixed it I think I hope and whoopsie don't do that to me you silly yarn did it again oh I've got it take it out a little fat time to frog uh ribbit ribbit ribbit ribbit I'm I'm being silly I got a frog it rub it rub it rub it okay now let's go down here and start frogging [Music] because I done messed up that's what I did foreign a week ago I am froggedy you unfrotted of this you mean you fraud it rabbit rabbit rabbit okay I'm sorry now start these throws over again I know I made Tim Matt no you didn't he still is not happy with me what he's not mad at you I know and I feel I'm not gonna do that again do what bring food over you're worried too much I know I understand there it is [Music] men men men right let's not do that no I know it's on it's too too half men men men I'm not talking about him I'm talking about that to have what the show I have no idea what you're talking about the show I watch sometimes Two and a Half Men I have no idea it's a silly show okay I used to watch it with my aunt ah they had a son one of them had a son oh it's called men men what amen the show is called men men yeah yeah oh okay it's a show sometimes Two and a Half Men that's called huh sometimes they say okay I'm being silly interesting show like yes yeah what do you do on your uh day off Sue hmm okay laugh out loud [Laughter] I know we're in a laughing mode oh yeah I'm kidding with you I'm a Kidder and this is going to look much better um since it is a gift I don't want too many mistakes in it definitely foreign [Music] this is the day that the Lord has made I will rejoice and be glad in it this is the day this is the day that the Lord has made kind of like hate them [Music] yes amen [Music] and so um did everybody have a good weekend I know I did every day is a day that the Lord has made yes let us always rejoice and be glad in it for he is always worthy of our praise and worship yeah that's so true I like I really like worshiping the Lord yes it makes me feel better it makes me go to work more attitude a better attitude yeah it does well I'm happy for you and sometimes no one else has no one else has Jesus but I try to I try to say lord loves you yeah yeah so do I you know yeah I don't ask nobody if they're a Christian I just pray for them and they might turn around oh my God oh my god oh nurse on their term you know on their turn turn to to know about Jesus uh-huh I asked Adam once they do you know Jesus and he says yes I do good I'm glad that Jason and him do but I've been praying God loves you and he says I know that [Music] they they're looking he's looking for a new place to live maybe a house um yeah they they live in the condominium oh so they're gonna sell the condominium yes yeah buy a house nice that's a good thing yep they want to get a dog oh and they can't in a condominium no huh okay that's okay I'm not sure why I listen to live in a townhouse you did yeah huh and uh and um like Ballinger oh where um our friend Karina was to live huh oh you mean Katrina yeah I know they're I know this Mike Michael and Chris are still there I don't know who you're talking about um oh I do know who you're talking about the Sun person and then long time ago they went on a a mission trip a long time ago I know and they got one of them got sick oh really yeah I didn't remember that yeah this okay windows leave me alone about that what trying to sell me virus protection oh and I already have it already have it and that's the way it is last one you'll get it oh wow good house got the whole and in his hands He's Got The Whole World in His Hands He's Got The Whole World in His Hands it's got the you and me brother in his hands he's got the yellow and me brother in his hands he's got the you and me from the in his hands He's Got The Whole World in His Hands he's got the you and me sister in his hands he's got the uni system in his hands he's got the you and me sister in his hands He's Got The Whole World in His Hands and he does weak what Oh I thought you were talking I'm just standing up for a minute it's okay I'm coming back I have to get some fluid in me ah yeah yeah okay oh that was a great reminder thank you I know I just almost I gotta do more drink more mm-hmm it is very important to hydrate well I don't wanna get hydrated dehydrated yeah I had my days of that when I was pregnant with both of my boys two one [Music] and okay and let's I know I I had chilled now that's good um and there we are fun okay all right you can work while you're taking care of yourself all the time like 20 hours a day I I'm working I'm worth I would have been working five days a week if you want from home if you work 10 days a week with anybody want to work and they want you to get stuck in the books or maybe they want you to use yeah I would not do that so I'm just gonna do it why can't we do it I know what that means no excuse me you probably want to um maybe uh you know make app and Afghans and cells what they think no you can't sold for that one can you I did like a hundred and seventy dollars it's like a couple of months 374. just a couple hours I could save it up though okay now I am gonna do a return pass ES [Music] yeah or or like kind of like uh do my return pass and then I'm gonna wrap up one thing and then you make pictures of it take pictures and put it on the computer I think there's lots of them because you are doing more work yeah yeah system I did yeah almost finished here okay [Music] I just started my backward pass no I had someone before with my aunt my return pass is what I meant to say backwards who was alive I had something damn changes [Music] okay come on yeah this will put me almost back where it was when I noticed the first mistake because we don't have Donuts a little bit of time you're sorry for me I apologize I'm not sure if you want to cause all the trouble and I'll walk you'll want to maybe you should start causing trouble no then you could be like me now Michael here make sure I need some brakes I am doing this a bit faster than I was with the other hooks did you work on today but are you glad we found your bag the Metro okay no it was it was in the it was in the back connect your computer and I will finish this and then if I do crochet it will be a regular crochet project and then you have to go to bed start up again all night and then foreign State parties and um almost done with my return pass [Music] ES huh really you probably almost as old as I am [Music] I am almost there and then after I finish this I will have to get up here my dishes done and my kitchen cleaned up okay dropping in to say hello blessings to all got to go I'm digging in my closet okay coming back and I am all the way through with that so I am going to say good night uh anyway I will show this off before I leave this is what I've been working on this is for my my son his first day and I'm using Tunisian crochet and I'm using green and yellow because that's what he wanted anyway I will um see you all hmm I don't know when I'll do my next show uh but uh y'all have a good night uh oh I have no idea um God bless you all and be good to yourself good night foreign
Julie and Shirley's Yarn Barn
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Hizzy13 X Ayytarget - Consistent Slammers #1T (Music Video) | @MixtapeMadness
[Music] one trap we trappers no cat we ain't got manners i'm a trapper not a rapper surrounded by trappers and bangers slamming these souls i always look out for the cameras when i hit the beef i come up with bangs and bangs [ __ ] from consistent slamming one trap we trappers no no [Music] on a mains blue lights in a real no pack my heart still stops there's lights in the rarest ambulance goes cool but my heartbeat drops on the m wait what else he said new shape whips try blend a lot no eye contact with no ascot palms or sweaty like i just did a joke and you ever been chilling in a ride you see our mark it sat the lights on and you ever had a pack on the mains and around that you're praying that you don't get stopped and you ever just run out of grub the phone's ringing off but you've got no stock and you ever had a feeling in your car you're moving all along hope you don't get clocked in an unknown tear got value on me he got back with a hammer and nails when i heard from my heart went numb and he slept from texas six to six thank god he could still have fun and mess brought the news to auntie she could believe he got found with her she could believe he got back with shells she couldn't believe he got back with bells when i never had skills one trap we trappers no cat we ain't got manners i'm a trapper not a rapper surrounded [Music] and bangers slamming these souls i always look out for the cameras when i hit the beef i come with bangers me and my wanties traps supplying the whole of the town battle to the band don't need more jews quickening [Music] surrounded by trappers and bangers slamming these souls [Music] i always look out for the cameras [Music] you
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#25 Balance Sheet
all right now we finally got to the balance sheet so um this is a snapshot in time so on the day that it's issued this tells you where your cash is what your assets and liabilities are and the reason it's called a balance sheet is that the two numbers on the assets and liability side have to add up and be equal so over here left side is assets and it's done in ascending order based on liquidity now liquidity is a fancy word for how fast you can convert something into cash so let's say you have pure cash that would be the most liquid whereas if you had land it would take some time if you wanted to sell it so you have cash number one and then you have our friend accounts receivable and he even though he's in even though he's in the hands of our customers we're going to get it so we don't worry about the 30 day terms we know we're going to get it and if we don't know we're going to get it then we take an accrual which means we somebody might not be willing to pay us or capable of paying us cash accounts receivable inventory so this is just parts now in the inventory we have two types of inventory one is whip which stands for work in progress and that is pretty much like half or fractional done the um you um the work or the product is incomplete work in progress and then the other one is um finished goods and this is when you're done the product is finished goods the product is ready to ship you might not have orders but it's all sitting there like it's a car waiting in the in the lot done and so this these are two types of inventory on your assets you can also have like i said land buildings and then if you buy a really expensive piece of equipment like a cnc mill or lathe you can have tooling over here so like when you buy a copy machine you don't you don't capitalize it you don't say it's an asset you just treat it as like a computer or a piece of paper so but very expensive tooling you can have on your assets liabilities okay now uh here's a case where we have debt so if we owe a bank some money we have our accounts payable even though we have terms meaning that we don't have to pay instantly we can pay them in 30 days we owe the money there's nothing you can do to get around to that you own the money taxes so if you haven't taxes aren't quite paid you still own the federal government you you have to put them on there so there you can't can't avoid that and then what you have is the difference between assets and liability is shareholder wealth so do the shareholders actually do the shareholders actually have a positive have more assets and liabilities and then that so that's actually a nice thing for the shareholders and these two numbers have to equal each other so assets minus liabilities of shareholder wealth just do we actually have some this is company worth something this is a balance sheet this is reported with the income statement on a quarterly basis by all public companies now private companies they don't have to say anything those are a big difference between the two and with a public company you actually can buy and sell shares fluidly and you can't do that with a private company so let's i want to go into a thing that i i think is going to cause some real trouble uh with oil depletion and the first one is something that was very promoted when i was growing up in the 80s and it was just in time and what that meant was you would you would have coordination very precise coordination and the delivery of parts so these are all your parts coming from all different vendors and you would bring them all exactly to a location at a precise time where you would build a product or warehouse in the case of walmart and then you would very rapidly send it to the customer and you would try to keep this stuff on your in your inventory as as short as possible so when you when you had a coordinated system of bringing the parts in building it rapidly and shipping to the customer that's called turns and if you're a good operations guy you can get like a dozen turns a year and what that means is you've you've brought parts in you spun them and you've got them up to the customer and you're getting 12 of those cycles in every year which is depends what it is but that's a very good clip now the problem is when you get oil depletion and you start getting shortages this part here could be a week late so this guy gums the whole network up because without this one part you you gotta hold this stuff and your inventory goes up your whip or your inventory now the other thing that can happen with oil depletion is you just can't make a part it's like you don't have the plastic so if you have a shortage of oil and somebody gets constrained on plastic they they get weeks or behind or so now you have you have trucking delays and you have parts delays and what this does is it blows up your inventory so if we look over here in our assets so we have our assets well what what's got to happen if inventory goes up then cash which is the only only thing that can respond is going down you your cash is being consumed in whip or if you can't pretty much whip it's this is going up and this is going down now on the other side this is this is a balance sheet indication but on the other side on the income statement your cogs your cost of goods are going up because it's now just the fact that oil is more expensive the cost of the product is more expensive now what's happening here are your gross margins are dropping because unless you raise your prices the cogs will climb up and your gross margins will drop which goes right to your um after tax profit you know that this has got to be high or your after tax profit your earnings will drop now once again if you want to raise your price we know based on the supply and demand curve your volume will go down so this is going these analysts these wall street analysts will be able to spot these things in a minute they'll say okay i'm seeing like i said everything's going wrong the cash positions the inventory's going up the cogs are going up you can see this in the income statement you margins are dropping if you're trying to maintain margins you've got volume going down this is where you see i don't know which company will be immune from this any manufacturing company or any vending company like walmart if these things don't arrive and there's they're you know in their warehouses at a coordinated time though they'll have the warehouses will bulk up the inventory will bulk up so um i think that you know we've got hubert's peak right so we've got hubert's peak and then we have this conservation phase for a decade and then things get started getting bumpy where the the richer companies buy their way through um by their way through the the oil depletion but if these analysts if these analysts they see they see a trend where their companies the ones they're watching if those are trending down and they don't see any they're aware now of oil depletion because the the people have seen the peak and the the stories in the in the news will be you know they'll be prevalent and if they see all this stuff going bad they'll issue sell orders they will say sell because the way it works in business is you buy low and sell high so if you believe that your your earnings are going to cut beat up and your cash is going to get depleted um you i got to get out of the stock when you know something's going down you sell it you buy low sell high and all it will take is a series of trends in here before the wall street analysts collectively say let's get out of the market and when you have people selling that drops your price so i don't think this is going to i don't think it's going to take that long before they figure it out i i don't think this is a decade this might be a couple years before all the companies start trending down so um i you know it's just it's just the way it works it's just you buy low sell high and you want to get out of something that's going to be always going down so that's that's balance sheets and it's income statements and that's just just in time and gross margin that's all
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BLUEDRESS video
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Dare To Dream
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Starling Skincare: Sensitive Skin and Rosacea – Help Is On the Way!
hi i'm natalie and i'm the co-founder of starling skin care and i have struggled with rostatia my entire adult life and i've struggled even more trying to find products that actually work for my skin so i'm so excited today to show you some of the products we've developed that have helped me get the skin i've always wanted i want to first start off by introducing nurture cleanser nurture cleanser has two key ingredients it has dead sea clay which helps draw out impurities without stripping your skin of its natural barrier which is really important when you cleanse your skin you don't want to over dry it because then you get an over production of oil which then throws off the balance of your skin and you break out and it also has green tea extract and green tea extract is like an antioxidant and it just helps keep your skin refreshed regenerated and it's really wonderful we have other great combinations in there but it's just a great cleanser it also can be used as a mask and removes all makeup so if you go it's just i love the scent of frankincense and neroli it's very refreshing um you can either wash it off or i use just a damp cloth and you know i have no makeup on my skin is still dirty self quarantining at home i don't know how that happens but it just still gets dirty and it's so after i use that i love our super boost which is fabulous and our super boost is our hyaluronic acid which is specifically made for sensitive skin it has no chemicals it's all natural and this this is incredible this works like a sponge it literally just absorbs it opens up the pores and it just absorbs anything you give it so you want to make sure that it's combined with the best ingredients it has some vegetable glycerin inside i spray it on i pat it just so wonderful it smells i love the hints of rose and i i get like and then you get like this little bounce it's just amazing i really really love it after that i use our uh revive which our revive is our face oil and what i love about this it's a superfood for your skin it's like putting vitamins fatty acids and then after the hyaluronic acid it just literally absorbs into your skin and i use this as a moisturizer some people use it as an addition to moisturizer but this to me it works perfectly as a moisturizer and it sinks right in it's non-clogging too most people think oils clog your skin but it's actually not when it's the right oils so we use grape seed oil barrage seed oil pumpkin seed all the best oils and it's like i said it's like putting superfood all over your your skin and it keeps my skin taut and glowing and fresh and hydrated all day i do this morning and night so these three products nurture super boost and revive are my secret weapon to keeping rosacea away and my skin happy and bright
Starling Skincare
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Dominic Dyer's Animal Aid Christmas Fayre Lecture on the Badger Cull
um our next tour is from uh dominic gaia uh from care for a while um joining the food and dream federation of 2000 played a key role in developing new uh new industry groups within swedenborg and vegetarian and functional food sectors um but likewise he was chief executive of the architectural association between 2008 to 2012 and played a key role in raising awareness of the importance of plant science the future of farming and food production on the uk and international basis he is currently trustee and senior policy advisor at care for the wild international um and dominic was recently council of the royal college of veterinary surgeons in london as a member of their veterinary nurses in council dominic's going to be giving his talk uh entitled the incompetence negligence and deceit behind the badger carl it's a real pleasure to be here i've not been back at this fair for in about 20 years when i was last year it's been it's been going that long i presume but i think in the early 90s but it's great to be back and i think this particular event has an awful lot about our care and compassion for animals and wildlife in this country which i want to talk more about as part of this presentation i've got no slides i've got no notes i tend to not use those these days but what i wanted really to do was tell you a bit about a campaign that i've been very involved with over the last 12 months which has really been bringing people together in this country in a way that i don't think we've seen in decades because they're terribly angry and they're justifiably angry about this magical policy about this cruel insane policy that has no economic no scientific or animal welfare justification that i can see and the most educated informed people can see as well but just to start you something when you have this debate as i do often with farmers they always say listen you just don't understand us as an industry you don't understand the problems that we face and you're pigeonholed straight away you're rather pro farmer and you support magical or you're anti-farmer because you don't support about your car i sort of fit in the middle i don't like being pigeonholed i started in the middle ago at 16 years of age and i worked through as well as about 30 through bsc and all the issues that some of you will be familiar with during that period of time i then went on to work in the food and drink federation which is the main trade association food and drink manufacturers in this country with big companies like unilever and businesses like that but many small food companies up and down the country as well when i was there i really specialize in areas that many of you are very supportive of in this room no doubt i set up their first vegetarian industry group the expanding soy and vegetarian food industry i established the soya protein association really to bring a voice to international and national food manufacturers who are using soya foods to produce a wide range of vegetarian type foods and also work with companies like corn as they develop their product lines as well and also did an awful lot of work on organic foods where i sort of brought the major food industry component into the organic sectors that expanded rapidly from about 2000 to 2006 working with small companies like duchy originals but also with big brands like nestle and unilever as they develop more organic foods as well and that gave me a sort of unique insight to food production i traveled around the world met farmers in south america and africa china japan and other places and lots of farming from all aspects from the sort of primary subsistence type farming that many of you will support to more industrial farming that is the modern face of food production in many parts of the world today as well then i went on to work in areas which are somewhat more controversial i don't doubt that working with big companies like monsanto and dupont and syngenta really trying to get to grips with this debate about what we do about producing food you know how much do we need science and innovation how do we regulate technologies like pesticides what's the future of gm foods is there a future is there not and again i spend a lot of my time traveling around the world and talking to different people about that debate from all aspects from an aspect of whether it was fear about that technology or aspects as to whether how much innovation and development we really needed to feed nine and a half billion people by 2050 on this planet so it's fair to say that i think i know a bit about farming and agriculture and i don't sort of come to the badger cult debate with no real knowledge about what goes on in this industry from a national international perspective but i would say this after 25 years of working in government and industry at a senior level and working with ministers and the heads of the national farmers union anonymous i have never ever seen a policy as bad as this magical policy i've never seen a policy that's based on incompetence negligence and deceit as this budget policy most definitely is it's three pillars of sand is built on and they're rapidly falling apart under public scrutiny and i think that's the one thing that i really take heart from is that all of you in this room but many hundreds of thousands across this country are becoming increasingly aware of this issue and are acting to do something about it we call the campaign group we established which really came about back in taunton in in august i think or july whenever i stood on a hill after jumping off the train with philippe vart ceo here and just speaking off the cuff about my views on the vertical policy for my experience and knowledge the recognition of some of the issues i put out there the response was amazing and following that people contacted me from all over britain said can you come and speak at different marches and events we want to organize them in our town centers our city centers and i just started first doing one in northampton in late july to about 50 people and since they've gone on and those have expanded to many thousands of people in cities like bristol in manchester in brighton up and down this country and we've established this badger army as we call it it's a real army it's not an army built on power an army built on fear it's an army built on care and compassion for our countryside and for our wildlife and for the first time i think in generations people are starting to say hold on a minute who makes the decisions as to whether we kill a wildlife species or not how much value do we put on that is it right that we put more value on a cow because it produces milk and meat than we do on a badger when that badge has actually lived in our landscape for half a million years where there might be sets in the vicinity of london that could be over 500 years old in some cases now batches have been demonized let's be clear about that and that's one of the reasons why many people get so angry quite justifiably sir over the years they've been exploited they've been abused and they've been killed they're a wonderful species of animal most of us will probably never see one there are animals very secretive they're animals that have tight social groups but they've been abused as i said and if you go back through history you can see in the 19th and 18th centuries it was the agricultural workers because these animals weren't hunted had any royal protection or any form of that kind they were left open to anyone who chose to just to dig them out and they used to dig them out they put them in the ends and use them for fighting and that was widespread in the 19th century and then you came into the 20th century it was the coloury workers who started batu baiting on a huge cell they used it for illegal gambling they used it for pleasure that's the word to use and this became so widespread that tens of thousands of animals were being destroyed every year their sets were being destroyed and it was the edward heath government the early 1970s that finally had to take action the conservative government of the day and actually put in place legislation to protect badges because they were really being threatened through uncontrolled exploitation and killing but the demonization today is coming from the farming industry it's coming from this conservative liberal coalition who've decided because we have an economic problem and that's what bovine tb is an economic problem that we're going to use the batter as a scapegoat i'm going to destroy it and anyone who gets in their way will be painted as someone that's an extremist who has an anti-farm agenda has no understanding of the need to take this type of action and that's just not right and that's what's driving people into this badger army that's what's driving people into this campaign across this country and i think what we're beginning to do now is really unsettle the forces of the establishment if that's the words that i was part of don't get me wrong i've been there i used to work with these people cutting deals as well but what we're really beginning to do now is to shed light on how organizations like the national farmers union work we're shedding light on how these policy decisions are taken and the first thing i would start with is really this is not about science you know i've worked in areas of science all my life i feel passionate about science i can sort of discuss with you the pros and cons of gm foods based upon a scientific debate i can discuss with you the pros and cons of neonatal insecticides based on science you might not agree with me but we can discuss it but what i really really dislike is when you have a very good piece of scientific research which we have for batches and tv when you throw it out the window the randomized magical was the best piece of peer-reviewed research that was ever undertaken anywhere in the world on the role of badges and tb and cattle the last labor government decided to take that decision to go forward with that process and it was a bold one and it was very unpopular with animal rights and welfare conservation groups because it involved killing a lot of badgers but they decided that they wanted to know once and for all what the role of badgers in spreading bovine tb cattle was and as to whether killing them was going to reduce the transmission in cattle so over an eight year period they spent 50 million pounds of taxpayers money they killed over 10 000 badgers but they produced a very good peer-reviewed piece of work the best that you'll find anywhere in the world and the people involved with it the chris cheesemans and lord krebs and others are very well respected as being animal behaviorists has been leading scientists in their field and knowing what they were doing they weren't sentimental about badgers many of them would have told badgers that they believed it could work but what they wanted to do was get a piece of research that would tell us the key messages and the key scientific outcomes to inform the politicians so that was published in 2008 and its main conclusion was that by culling badges in the way that we have been in gloucestershire and somerset we will make no meaningful contributions reducing bovine tb and in fact what we're probably going to do is make the situation worse because what we found is that when we started disturbing bachelor sets in communities and wounding animals it's inevitable in any culling operation they move and those animals that carried the tv would move the tv with them so you would reduce tv in the central zones you were cutting the animals but you just spread it on the outside and there's nothing that's changed in between the time that particular report was published and where we are today there are a few people have looked at it david king the chief scientist at the time spent three days looking at it and decided he didn't like all the conclusions but he wasn't involved in any way with all the eight years of research and he was a very low voice that the nfu and this government thrown their weight behind but the conclusions are there for you to see and that's why people like lord krebs were involved in it who was demonized in the period that report was being undertaken as you know badger gasser krebs has stood with the anti-coal movement has said that we're right in campaigning in the way we are that we're right to say this is a political not science-based decision we're right to say that killing these animals is not justified and that's terribly important and people say to me why the hell did we get in this mess then why didn't david cameron when he was in opposition with his shadow agriculture team in 2008 read that report and act on it as he should he didn't he had a chance to do it he threw it out the window and the reason was because he decided he'd made a political decision to work with the national farmers union to give them a badger cut because that was good for votes in rural communities it was good for the alliance he developed the countryside alliance and other interest groups that were going to deliver support to get tory mps elected they were going to knock on doors they were going to campaign they were going to get mps in the house that in turn would support the policy when they're mps today and that's exactly what's happened so that was a political process a grubby political accommodation was reached on the blood of a protected species in this country and that is fundamentally wrong in whatever way you look at it no matter what your politics that is fundamentally wrong and that's what we're left with so this is a political decision not a science-based decision we went ahead with cunning animals in gloucestershire and somerset because of a political decision not only that we didn't decide what we were going to do to cull them we were going to subcontract that effort out to the national farmers union we were going to act effectively as mercenaries on behalf of the government and deliver the cull in a cheap way as possible so not only were we going to kill these animals that were protected not only were going to lift the protection they had we weren't even going to scrutinize and have government officials doing the calling which at least is what we did with a randomized badger call where they were open to public scrutiny and parliamentary scrutiny you're going to give it to contractors and we all know all of us who've been involved in some of the cult zones in recent weeks what that means you have basically taken local pest controllers those people will be out lamping at night with guns and you're paying them ten quid a badger music get on with it and that's exactly what's going on with all the fear all the intimidation of peaceful protesters as a result none of the scrutiny that should have been in place the government said oh yeah but we'll have some humaneness monitoring don't worry we've got it all sorted four to six if you were lucky humaneless monitor is in two areas the size of the isle of wight more likely to see lord lucan out there and find one of these people they're not there if they are they've been under such pressure they could never do a proper job and then we had the techniques that were being used free shooting was that the great idea the national farmers union came up with this idea was that we'd put baits outside the sets we'd bring the badges up and we'd shoot them just being a bit stupid they're all just going to wander up quite nicely and knock them down one after the other anyone anyone that shoots animals for a living there are many that do and do it properly for deer and other culling operations would have told you that was not going to work these animals are small swap muscular animals you're doing it at night they're extremely nervous they're not going to be easy to kill outright and if you wound them they're going to move and spread the disease and disserve other sets but no one listened everyone who knew about shooting and who made us told them this was not going to work we were 10 days into this college summer set in gloucestershire and we had 90 dead badgers and we spent over a million pounds pleasing it alone and then it was panic and death for up they all went rushing back to our own patterson said mr secretary said it's not working we told you it was not going to work and he said bloody hell you better get the civil servants out and get all those cages out of those warehouses and get them down there into gloucestershire and somerset we've got to start killing more badgers so what happened is you just started spending civil servants and taxpayers money putting civil servants back in the field laying in cages on the ground in damp and wet disgusting conditions in many cases so you could trap a badger overnight and then you'll blow it away in the morning with the nfu contractors but the problem is by actually doing it in that way you're spending more money than you've trapped and vaccinated those animals that's absolutely disgraceful and then we spend money on policing the policing costs the farmer say to me or will we policing it because you are a bunch of nazi extremists no we're not actually the police were generally put in place to let those individuals who were not under scrutiny to get on with their work and no one could get near them that's what it was about to surround farmers backed up by the nfu injunction that people like me were fighting in the high court which was the biggest infringement of civil rights i think we'd seen in this country in 20 years which basically said you were not even going to be able to peacefully demonstrate against this cow we're not even going to allow you to have a whistle or a dog or a torch or walk anywhere near this is where it was going on we had to fight like hell just to have the wounded patriot patrol network we established which in my view has been one of the best things that ever came out of this cup because it shows the brave and good face of compassionate care in britain where people come together to show peacefully that they want to demonstrate against this so the policing costs have been crazy we've probably spent in the first six weeks of those colds about one and a half million at least in each zone that's about three million pounds you can be certainly probably spend an extra million on all those civil servants and cage teams which the nfu will never pay back no matter what is being said it will all come out of archicad's payer's money and then we extended these calls because what we found is that they didn't kill enough animals the free shooting was a disaster the cage trapping was expensive and slow and then surprise surprise 66 percent of the badges disappeared owen person said they disappeared because it was a bad bad winter there wasn't much food around there was disease he had no evidence to back any of that up at all pinocchio patterson were calling him now his nose is getting that long with these lies but it wouldn't be funny in a way when you look at what actually was going on because we worked with sky news and went down to summerset and within two days they found 14 farmers admitting their illegally gassing badgers not only were they league in gasting badges they were sharing best practice the gas badges they were setting up trade associations for overcasting of badges they were working with government officials to promote the policy of gasting badges so we have wildlife protection laws in this country we have millions of pounds being spent on police stopping peaceful middle-class demonstrators on badger patrols when actually the farmers have been illegally killing badgers and no one was doing anything to stop it at all which is an absolute disgrace absolute disgrace and the numbers of animals that have been killed i think could be catastrophic many farmers last year in october when this call was originally called off decided they thought the government had no bottle to continue with it and they were going to take the law into their own hands i have no doubt and that is shared by leading behaviorists and scientists and we know through leaks from officials in deathra it's shared by senior people in government that the most likely cause of that serious decline is illegal killing on a wide scale and we know also because the government monitors its own sites there are a number of sites we have monitored badger calls badger and set sorry where we watch the behavior of the animals where we monitor their numbers and what we found in the period of 12 months is we have less than a 5 drop which is something you generally see from one year to the to the next depending on variables there was nothing like 66 percent you'd have to be sherlock holmes to work out well we've got monitor sets that are showing less than five percent drop and those in the coal zones have shown a 66 drop that something was going on and that should worry all of us because you have this myth about the numbers of animals we have you know the farming unions have been saying we've got millions of badgers david heath the minister is no longer a minister because he was sacked recently the liberal democrat minister for the southwest said that he could figure out there's a lot of badges because he saw dead ones on the road regularly we do have study work coming through on the numbers of badgers in this country but we don't expect it's going to show more than about half a million we know we lose 50 000 on the road and we know there's a large-scale legal killing of these animals going on not just in the coal zones but around the country as well so what are we doing here we're allowing the government to go on killing these animals we're not monitoring what they're doing we don't know how much illegal killing has gone on and we should all stay silent with their finish and we let them get away with this we will eradicate this species that's been in place for half a million years in our landscape from large parts of this country and it will never come back and why are we doing it we're doing it because we have an economic problem in the farming industry well let me tell you why that problem is there is because we have intensive livestock herds in a way that we've never seen for generations in this country and caroline will talk a bit later on about some of the moral issues about that and what we should be doing in the future but let me tell you on average now many dairy farmers have 500 or more cattle some have up to a thousand we have 13 million cattle movements a year in this country more than anywhere else in europe we mounted 24 investigations for tv fraud in the last six years even though there were 78 million movements and we only prosecuted 11 farmers for moving cattle illegally tampering with ear tags and passports tb fraud is widespread and farmers can get away with it and while we've been butchering badgers for no scientific reason in somerset and gloucestershire we had the first outbreak of bovine tb in the north eastern county for 30 years and that was not down to badgers that was down to cattle movements and we know cattle movements and controls can make a difference because the european commission i think look at those 13 million movements said hold on a minute we're giving a lot of money to you to compensate farmers for the slaughter you've got to get a tighter control on your tb testing systems your movement controls by security and farmers were forced to do that kicking and squealing at the beginning of the year with the government saying we've got to do something and over the last nine months we've seen nearly a five percent drop year on year on tv in the herds in this country but are you hearing anything from marian patterson on that no are you hearing anything from national farmers union no because that would take away the justification for this crazy magical and then we get the next lie direct pinocchio pattern added again it's how many of these animals have serious disease now the randomized magical told us some very important figures when they killed the 10 000 badgers they autopsied all of them they tv tested every one of them what they found is only about one point six percent of those animals which about over 160 in total had laid stage tv that's where they had multiple lesions were visible they were excreting the disease and would be a serious risk to other badgers and cattle super excretors is the phrase that owen patterson describes those kind of animals you ever speak to paterson completely lucky enough to talk to him he'll always go on about the super excreta he's never seen it just a farmer friend told me found it once it's a badger that was exploding with disease he will tell you that around 40 of all the batches in this country fall into the super excreta category they're moving around our farms causing absolute chaos exploding with disease absolute utter rubbish no evidence about that or whatsoever mostly it's probably about 1.65 around 15 in the randomized magical had early stage tv but they weren't excreting the disease they weren't a high risk of other badgers or cattle and they would probably live their three years average lifespan without showing any negative health impacts at all so if you say that you're doing these animals a favor by putting a bullet in their head that's absolute rubbish but that's something that davy cameron often says that's something that owen patterson often says and obviously the nfu as well and then patterson goes into the house of commons and tells mps that actually the animals we've been shooting have got a lot of disease well firstly he's testing none of those animals for tv and he's refused to do it because he knows you'd get a similar figure back to what he got in the randomized magical about 1.67 which would blow his 40 myth out of the window and would basically make the public think hold on a minute here we're spending 1 million to quit and most of these animals are disease-free this doesn't seem right to me so he didn't test any of them refused to even though the nfu even pushed him to consider it he wouldn't do it that was a political decision but then he says to mps what we know that he sees no he doesn't oh but then when they pushed and he was asked for the response he said well i didn't actually see any evidence that some contractors and farmers told me they were diseased well they're not veterinary experts i tell you anything anyway they have no knowledge most of these guys have been backing these badges at night they're in the back of a pickup truck and they're off for incineration no one's even seeing them to tell you what's actually the condition of the animal but the one thing we do know is that in wales we've been vaccinating over a thousand badges over the last 12 months not one of those animals had late stage tb not one of those animals needed veterinary intervention not one of those animals needed to be put to sleep yet there were processes in place to allow that and all of them were in a tv hotspot area where you would expect to find quite a few that had late stage tv we didn't find any all of them went back they were vaccinated and returned because they were healthy animals so you can be certain that 96 97 of all those badgers just under 2 000 that would probably spend 5 million killing over 3 000 pound ahead are completely healthy animals that pose no risk of vaginas or cattle yet we've destroyed them for nothing and that again is absolutely scandalous absolutely and then the farmers say to us well god blind we've got to get ahold of the tv and cattle because we you know we're having to destroy these animals it's terrible for us all those animals go into the food chain 85 90 of them on an average year you know we broke that story on the front page of the sunday times because we thought it was important the public knows about that because the farmers were indicating they were being incinerated the bbc and other media outlets were saying they were being incinerated no they go to an avatar if they've got less than one visible legion they're cut out and they're sent into the food chain with no traceability or labeling at all most of them are going through breaks and other food service companies into schools hospitals and our armed forces they've got no traceability labeling so no one knows what they're eating and they're not preheating the meat which is what the advisory committee to the food standards agency recommended on three separate canes in the last 15 years to ensure that you killed off all the bacteria now the risk to humans of getting tb from meat consumption is very low but it's not zero but this government are quite happy to run even a very small risk because they get 10 million pounds back a year for the sale of that meat to the people who tend to eat it i know most of you here probably don't eat meat but many do of course and that goes back into the compensation system it's a vicious circle the farmer sells his cattle the government buy it they then sell it back to us to spend giving the compensation back to the farmer that's a dangerous vicious circle that's been created and as the numbers of animals are infected because of bad biosecurity and a lack of control you just keep feeding more of them into the food chain and then we have to find the solutions there are some very good ones badger vaccination works you know the government's own agency pharaoh the food environment research agency commissioned a report they published it last november it was a good piece of research what it showed was this if you start injecting badges over a period of years bearing in mind they only live in average three years you build apparently bodies in the badger community quite quickly very similar to the humans with a bcg injection so by actually injecting the animal if the animal is not diseased you can help it if it is diseased you can't so the farmers say well these animals have got tb but come back to what i said earlier the figures are low on the numbers with tb and if they only live on average three years they'll die out through natural causes quite quickly so if you start injecting over a number of years you will build up resilience in the healthy animals and when they have cubs we see that resilience come through into the caps as well and once we reduce the level of transmission into batches it will impact reducing and going back into cattle now there's always a big debate about you know what is the level of transmission from badges to cattle i can't tell you what it is i know that the 50 figure that's banded around is an imperial college mathematical model that was put together a number of years ago it wasn't based on deal research it wasn't based on data from the field yet it's taken as a given from the government me and a few that's the figure a lot of people who know about these things would say it's probably far less than that and actually the bigger percentage is cattle's a cattle infection and when you think about how many cattle you have in a pen and you know this is an aerosol spread disease it's not a surprise that that's depends and then we have to think about the mistakes of the past and then we can blame the labour government for some of these we go back to 2001 when i worked between government and the food industry we had the first case of foot and mouth outbreak in this country since 1967. some meat was brought in illegally into an essex restaurant useful waste only for pig waste and it had an infection and it sort of fed through and before we know it we have the foot and mouth outbreak the worst we've seen since the late 60s going up through the northwest and other parts of the country the government had to take a decision about how to deal with foot and mouth the prince of wales the soil association and many other bodies who considered a more environmentally sustainable approach said we should ring fen vaccinate these animals to stop the spread of the disease tony blair was won over by that argument he was ready to go with it he went to the european commission got approval we had hundreds of vaccination teams set in place uh we had sheds set up in cambria to bring all the animals in to start vaccinating about 48 hours before the whole process was going to start the nfu jumped in and said hold on a minute you start injecting those cows we're going to lose our meat and live export market so they took my boss at the time chairman of nestle and the food drink federation and went off to checkers and worked on tony blair over the weekend and they turned the policy around so by the monday we started slaughtering the national herd and as you know living through that period we slaughtered millions of millions of animals in a funeral fires up and down the country shook the country down side down for six months delayed a general election spent about two and a half billion compensating farmers but then about another four billion was lost because of the rural economy lots of businesses were closed you couldn't get access to many went under so a huge amount of money was wasted once we'd done all that it got even worse because the national farmers team then said well we need to restock cattle we need to get those cattle back on farm quickly and the chief veterinary chief scientific officer at the time said well hold on a minute we've got to put in tb test systems because we couldn't you know increase the risk of tv if we don't check these animals the nfu so we haven't got time for that we need them in now and the only part of the country that had a low rate of foot and mouth was the southwest the trouble is the southwest had one of the highest rates of bovine tb so we started to move tens of thousands of cattle out from the southwest into other parts of the country now if you look at the figures on tv which defer is hidden very well but it's recently released them because they can't hide the evidence anymore there's a massive peak in the spread of the disease from 2001 to 2003 and you're scratching what was all that about that was your restocking we trebled the rate of bovine tb in the herds we had around 5 000 cases one of the lowest levels in europe in 2001 by 2003 were over 25 000 cases a year and not only have we infected cattle because of that stupidity but the nfu is directly responsible for we clearly hit effective badges in different parts of the country as well and once it's into the wildlife it's very difficult to get it out so that's your incompetence and negligence where you took a decision knowing the risk knowing the long-term impact that you went ahead with it anyway if you'd put in place decent test systems and controls we would never have seen the increase in bovine tb to get us where we are today we wouldn't be having this debate about killing vouchers and the other problem that we must come to terms with here is you know what are we going to do about cattle vaccines you know for years and years governments have said well the cattle vaccine thing is really difficult because again if you inject a cow for tb we might lose the export market into europe for selling live exports or meat or dairy foods so the european commission has come back now and said we've got a program to take about 10 years we'll give you approval in 10 years time so the nfu goes fine we'll see how it goes in the meantime we'll just butcher badges for 10 years that's paterson's plan 10 projects a year we might take 200 000 badges out in that time but it doesn't need to be 10 years that's rubbish because the one organizational structure that can change that is the supermarkets the supermarkets are sat on the fence through this cup and they said to be honest if you just get on kill badges hopefully people keep quiet we're not keeping quiet the anger's growing and it's going completely wrong so they're all getting worried now but they now need to take responsibility we have a food chain in this country that has created the intensive livestock system and actually sainsbury's ancestors and waitrose and others have done it now they've done it for a reason they will argue with you they did it because they're going to give you cheap affordable food that's important to the nation well i'm not going to disagree with you on that but it has consequences now those companies and i've worked with them on certain projects like on soybeans and palm oil production where we've got more sustainable task force established to protect rainforests and orangutans things that we need to do they are taking action and it's right they do that internationally but what about wildlife in this country why is it that they think that we don't care about what's happening on our own doorstep we do so what we're saying to them is you've got to take initiative now you've got to come forward and try and find a solution working with government farmers and wildlife groups these are the things they can do really easily okay a company like sainsbury's a very well-run business justine king's ceo a clever businessman makes a lot of money all that sainsbury's needs to do tomorrow citizen we're going to go through our supply chain of farmers and make sure every one of those farms has badger vaccination projects in place we will put in the money to pay the local wildlife trust to pay volunteer groups and we'll get all those badges vaccinated we will also put in gates and fences on the farm so we will separate the food pens and the dairy pens through gates and fences to avoid interaction between badgers and cattle which we know can spread the disease simple things not particularly costly but farmers don't want to do it but the retailers should do it to take responsibility for their supply chain and the final piece of the puzzle is they should work with the uk government and say we're going to go to the european commission we're going to take this project that we're currently funding in ethiopia of all places to show this vaccine works we're going to come back here and try it in britain wales wants to do it and i think we should do in the next 18 months we're going to prove it can work and it will and then we're basically going to have a system in place where we get a derogation from the european commission so that we vaccinate cows to tb but they don't get exported they only go into the uk food supply chain so any dairy or meat will go into those supermarkets and it will be labelled as welfare cattle welfare battle friendly product aimed at reducing the spread of bovine tb and i think you would find many consumers if they choose to buy but actually pay a bit more money for it the farmers would get a bit more money for their product which helps them in tough economic times and i think obviously we would stop killing our wildlife that's got to be a good thing wouldn't we all agree that's a good thing or wouldn't we all agree that the supermarkets could make that happen and that's the key challenge for them into 2014 is to take control of this crazy situation and find a solution that not only pleases their farming interests and government but also their consumers the people that shop in their stores that to my mind is terribly important but there are wider issues we can find a solution and i've just mapped out some of the things we can do badger vaccination cattle vaccines and tighter biosecurity that should stop in its tracks killing these animals but the politics of this are still stinky at the end of the day we have to have a proper value system in place for our wildlife our agencies natural england being a good example is just not fit for purpose natural england was established as an agency of government to protect wildlife and biodiversity it extended the gloucestershire cult for 10 weeks against its own chief scientific advisors recommendations his chairman is a dairy farmer it's got very close links to the national farmers union three of the board members are dairy farmers and now they're just a point in the replacement is a big major donor to the tory party again has close links to many of those organizations it's not fit for purpose it's not independent doesn't control its own budget it cannot set its own agenda the joint nature conservancy committee was established to try and be a voice again for nature and promoting biodiversity in government again it doesn't have its own budget all controlled by detroit again can't set its own strategies all controlled by death prime ministers so it cannot criticize this government on badger culling it can't criticize it or not protecting heirs it can't criticize it on killing buzzards to protect game birds it can't criticize that only getting 27 marine reserves we originally agreed he needed 127. so unless you have an agency that can do that you're never going to protect wildlife properly and what we're calling for we're saying to labor and other parties the greens and others need to listen i think to this is that we need a proper wildlife protection agency in this country an agency that's independent of deferred the farming fishing landowning interests that has a board of real scientific experts in conservation and wildlife management who are respected as such a strong independent chair and the recognition from consumers and the public that actually will stand up to government whenever it has to do something that's going to cause controversy on wildlife that could be many things it could be controlling a disease like bovine tv or it could be building hs2 or it could be developing a new system of pesticides that could damage or not damage pollinators all those things need to be looked at properly and we need a strong agency to deal with them so i hope out of the ashes of this coal fiasco we will get something that's different a strong agency a government that can firstly stand up and secondly recognize that we do care about our countryside we do care about its future and if these animals are not economically productive the bachelor doesn't produce anything for us we don't eat it thankfully we don't hunt it we don't shoot it or we shouldn't do legally but it exists and it's an important part of our environment and all of us should sleep well at night knowing that it's doing what it does and it has done for the last half a million years and it should be left below and that's the important thing that we all must challenge ourselves with going forward on this debate you know this is not about animal rights it's about human wrongs it's about what we've done wrong to these animals it's about how we've abused the privilege that we have of having such control and influence over our environment you cannot farm by destroying the wildlife around us you know david cameron and i'm patterson are in china this week you know the third time that patterson's been out there in 18 months i think the second time at least the prime minister has been there you know china is a massively important market for our farming industry why well the chinese for thirst don't have much confidence in their own regulatory food supply system they're very nervous about things going wrong and i know because i've worked in that area quite closely and when it does go wrong they suddenly look to the international market to fill their needs so for instance baby food infant formula is a good example there was a scare in the chinese production system about 18 months ago and the chinese middle class and rich consumers of which are now millions decided they wanted cow and gate and all the western brands that you're familiar with in our supermarkets but the problem is that if you speak to a manufacturer of those products they only make on a model of how many babies are going to be likely produced in different markets that don't have surpluses so they work out how many babies like to born in britain then we fill the market well because the chinese suddenly needed it they just started sucking out the world's supply very quickly they started down in australia work way through north america and into europe an entrepreneur started to figure out actually i'm gonna start buying all this and sending it in legally that's what they did and then when mothers went to boots trying to find it there's something rationed and we're never used to being rations so something that caused quite a stir you know you can only have two bottles why because we haven't got enough to replenish the stocks and that tells us that things like powdered milk the core ingredient are suddenly very very valuable to our chinese market and the chinese now thinking of even investing and buying into our dairy industry let's just buy up a load of dairy farms to make sure we have that product when we need it the difficulty that brings is that the chinese are very risk-averse when it comes to things like tv vaccination of cattle if we vaccinate cattle to try and stop the spread of bovine tv for budget protection the chinese might say we're not going to buy that anymore and that's what's at the bottom of this argument there are many people in national pharmacy and know that and they want that chinese market the government wants that chinese market and what they're willing to do is sacrifice our badges and kill tens of thousands of them to keep it and that again is fundamentally wrong and we have to decide what sort of food and farming industry we want do we want to just sell cheap products to china to destroy our wildlife or do we actually want to sell better products into our own market and protect our wildlife that's where i strongly differ with the national farmers union leadership that's why i think we need an honest debate about the future of farming in this country now there are many farmers who believe that too they want to go after a higher value market now i have simply found this it's a difficult business it's dirty it's long hours and it's hard and a lot of them are not making a lot of money and they are victims as some of what the retailers and others have forced them into they move cattle and sell them in such large numbers to subsidize a very low income producing milk for example they got a better price they wouldn't trade cattle so much so we have to get out of the vicious circle we need to add value into our food chain add quality put real value and protection into our wildlife just to finish really you know i've people say to me are you a bit eccentric dominic you know gone from working for monsanto now you just go around talking about protecting badges and i say no i'm not hey i've always cared about wildlife that's why working with care for the while the way i have both in a national international area has been terribly important to me and you know it matters putting value on animals be it elephants in africa we work on beer badges here in britain but i think also it says a lot about this country you know care and compassion for animals is something that makes us distinctly different from many other nations in the world i know impact really annoys me because he keeps going on about you know white tip beer in minnesota or possums in new zealand or our irish friends my mom's irish i love ireland my god they've got bad animal welfare issues in ireland you know for some reason there's some very good campaigners out there but they're often a lone voice you know and let's be honest the irish have tried to solve tv by killing badges they spent tens of millions of pounds on it they've gassed them they snared them they shot them they've killed over 60 percent of their badges and they still got tb in their herds comparable to what you will find in the north of ireland and it isn't the same with white tip dear which is a game species in the united states that's what we would be doing with badgers and it's not the same with possums and invasive species do a lot of damage in new zealand there's a lot of sympathy for controlling their numbers which in turn help reduce bovine tv and in all those countries they're putting tight controls on biosecurity on tv testing systems it wasn't just culling but you come back to britain britain should be able to do its own thing based upon what we want as a nation based upon what unites us in care and compassion for animals it's no surprise that the rspca started here in the 19th century all the vegan and the vegetarian society started here or you know peter scott and others who formed the world wildlife fund or in one town in horsham that we had care for the wild and born free established that are doing such great work in britain and around the world it's because we care it's what makes us better people what makes us better not just the way we treat animals but the way we treat each other and the way i've spoken to thousands of people across this country and the way i've seen people from all ages backgrounds come together to me has been so heartening and that's why we'll win on badges but i think we'll win a lot more than that we're showing not just britain but the rest of the world that we will stand up for animal welfare we will stand up for a better world we will value these things we will drag ourselves away from the x factor on our iphones and our ipads now and again and actually look at what's going on around us when i see children come to some of these marches who are so engaged in it i had one child come up to me yesterday since we've not responded to my email made me feel very very uncomfortable i sound terribly sorry because we are sending an email and expecting you to respond but she was so intelligent articulate she was about seven and she'd been thinking about the issue and talking to her school friends and that was fantastic you know you think my god that's wonderful she wasn't obsessed by the x factor she really cared about patches and that's what makes us different that's why we'll win this so keep fighting all of you it's been a real pleasure to come here today and just share some of the thoughts i have on this campaign hair for the wild is a charity that's small we're working hard we've got some badges and things that you can take with us if you want to support us please do we've got to stand down on the floor phillips here the chief executive can talk more about some of the work we do badges and british wildlife to us is important we want your support we need it next year we're going to be marching up and down this country again we'll be lobbying mps this battle will be one and four but it'll be fought in the fields it'll be fought in the law courts it'll be 14 parliament and council chambers in the tv studios and it'll be a team effort but when we come out of this we'll be a better country because of it thank you very much yeah please thank you that's great you want to stand up those who want to ask thank you just speak up as much as you can thank you okay thanks very much is well you know the welsh model was quite expensive because they basically transferred all the people are going to kill the animals to vaccinate them that's not a bad thing they're doing a good job but they're using civil servants what i love about the options of vaccination it's a big society in action there are thousands of people across this country that would happily volunteer to vaccinate patches i've got in the rain and cold back they are at the moment sitting on badger sets to protect them to vaccinate them you'll do away with all those millions of pounds of police cosplay you won't need any police so you know straight away we can bring the cost down by bringing in more trained volunteers we can reduce the police costs which will reduce it significantly remember what i said earlier on by caging and trapping and shooting these animals i think actually per head it's about 200 pounds more than cage trap and vaccinate now they'll argue by shooting the animal year in year we're going to get a bigger reduction you know this is where the science becomes important so no the cost issues this government came back with to say that vaccination was too expensive have been completely nailed so swiss cheese is got lots of holes in it now so you know we need to fight next year to expand vaccination and badges but we need to bring other people into it the vaccination work that the retailers could do you know bear in mind that saint priests and tesco spend millions on very good community projects up and down this country for school gymnasiums and other things they could easily put some money into vaccination projects through the wildlife trust as well so we can get it down we can make it cost effective we can make it work you need political commitment we need commitment from the farmers and landowners and the retailers and the wildlife groups will play their part and i know because there are thousands of people like you and others who volunteer their time as well sorry lady at the back and this this debate on wednesday in parliament is it worth writing to our tory mps absolutely i spoke to some tory mps of bloody a few weeks ago and they were prospective candidates women primarily they were very worried about the impact of this policy on the doorstep worried about the impact on the conservative party as a whole we know that the whips in the party or you know the senior figures in the cabinet are worried um we're getting that influence now so go back to them even if they supported it because they were whipped and their arms were twisted most of them think it's a box dinner now if you don't mind using that is this going to be three line whips it isn't but it's going to be basically an open debate there won't be a vote from what i know at the end of it but what it can do it can send a clear message back to government that mps of all parties are unhappy with the direction we're going in to be fair people like zach goldsmith and other tory mps have signed an early day motion to say that they want vaccination they think we're going in the wrong direction only about 22 so far but the numbers coming up so if you've got any contact with your mp just go back and hammer it down and just hammer those points that you just made absolutely i think there's some good stuff i i will try and circle i think the rspca put a briefing together philip i know recently so what we can do is put that up on our website and see if we can get that around to people as well we could do that on monday maybe see if we can have some information up there if you come to care for a while that you can see how you can relay that to your empathy as well and it is wednesday everybody it's wednesday yeah and it is not going to solve the debate it's another step though that's important so please do what you can thanks thank you sorry um um hugely frustrating we wrote something concerned about another one of our future we've got a very insulting reply that belittled our intelligence and it makes me really quite quite aggressive i'm trying not to speak because this knowledge well two things firstly it's easy to say the media aren't covering i agree that times it's frustrating for you all i can say is i've worked with a media on many issues over the years with big industries always complain we never got our message across and actually on badges we've had a pretty good amount of coverage um but it's never going to be enough but it's a very busy media agenda you know 24-hour news coverage stories coming up all the time um you know if you look at what i've done over the last 12 months i've worked you know the bbc's are criticized but we've done everything on the bbc you know from today program for the bbc breakfast five nights nicki campbell are great you know they invite us on they care about animals and they constantly give us that air time with three million people to debate these issues plus uh sky have been very good and sky did that investigation on gassing and work with us still ignores and others and went down there and put the time in and put that on all night you know above the madney mccann and the stories headlined it all night and then when we went to bristol you had the terrible events in glasgow and i thought we were going to lose the story and they still kept a team with us all day they filmed it they did a great job i think on the four-minute piece they put out um they had obviously another speaking on the podiums but then they went into the crowd and interviewed people why they were there they showed us footage of the people moving around the city and that went out all night again as item three on the news so sometimes we get it right but it's frustrating you you'll never get as much coverage as you want and it's it's not easy to dictate to the media you know there are some occasions when you just don't know what's going to happen the only reason the tv meet story went on the front page of the sunday times is because rupert murdoch decided he wanted it on you know i'd worked all i've worked through channel forward through sky um and we haven't got that story on because they wouldn't put the research into it they said it was good but they didn't quite know what to do with it the sunday times took it on the thursday went through friday and they ran me on saturday night saying rupert's spoken to the edge from new york uh patterson's in new york rupert wants it on the front page he was there promoting british food pass and thought it was a good story let's get it on and there it goes so you know that's what you're up against sometimes it's editors it's decisions about where stories go but they suddenly have a big impact because of it it's difficult with the bbc um you know and we've criticized them at times and we should be able to do that but also their regional networks have been very good giving us time in somerset gloucestershire and other places you know the marches for example that we've done up and down the country nearly every one of them has been covered by the bbc regional networks on the radio which in turn has driven more people to come to the march and be aware of it um we are getting to a point where i think the media at least is now saying actually this is not clear cut anymore is it the costs have gone mad the policies failed the farmers seem divided we've got a new outbreak of tb in the northeast and this movement is definitely growing what i loved about the sky report from bristol was it it showed the badger army for what it was a growing movement that was bringing people together but we need to continually work on it and to be fair some charities are not that media savvy we're all learning as we go along it's been my business to be media assembly and i've come into this quite late and i think care for the while we've done a good job as a charity getting to grips with this agenda other charities are having to catch up a bit with some of that as well but we'll keep working really hard and keep complaining you know skye said to us for example that we're doing this story because that every time we do something we get loads of people congratulating us on our twitter feed and facebook and we're going to run another one so if you like something they do congratulate them if you want to criticize and criticize but the bbc does something good please tell me do it good because i'll do it again they will listen to you okay thank you sorry on the back um well first of all i wanted to thank you for the talk because you spoke very eloquently and alongside all of the direct action that people do around the country i personally think that's one of the more powerful things that people can actually contribute to this entire debate my question is primarily i've noticed this is being videoed i'd like to know first of all where i can gain access to this video and secondly because you raised issues directly relating to both the policies and indeed the statements that have been made by politicians particularly owen patterson and david cameron himself i'd like to know if there's somehow that i can promote this video or indeed what you're talking about generally across the country to invoke a direct response to each and every point that you've raised requiring them to essentially either negate it burn it or in some way establish their position on what you're saying because you're what you're saying is informed it's backed up by reason and information as you've demonstrated through this talk something that for myself i'll look into further but i like to see that opportunity because i think far too often what happens is that a four-minute piece even if it's put forward by people like sky or um even a half an hour piece if it's a debate directly between two people can get lost in the melee of people just saying what they want politicians answer the questions they want not what they're posed i'd love to see owen patterson directly responding to certain remarks that you've made and basically stating whether or not he you know and backing them up with similar information well two things firstly everything i say is on the record in the public domain even to the point where somebody might not like it and claim that i said something i shouldn't say but i'll stand by it or i will retract it accordingly um but at the end of the day everything's there so every speech i've made up and down the country has been recorded on youtube you can see them all um there's a very good one from the badge across the professional film from my agm speech back in in the autumn which is 40 minutes covering everything in a bit more detail than i've done today um so again you can find that if you just do a quick youtube chat dominic dyer badger call you'll see it on there this one will go up on on youtube as well and what people are doing is sending them to their mps and actually putting them forward and saying listen take some time to watch it we live in a world of limited attention span some people do view these things some though the level of public interest is great thousands of people are viewing the videos the speeches that i'm making and others are you know we had a great one by simon king in bristol last week again which i think has set an agenda that he's put forward which is wonderful and needs to be watched as well so um yeah the video side of this is terribly important the messaging everything we do on the march is we're trying to live stream and record so that we're capturing it with other speakers too and just use it you're right you won't get patterson responding he refuses to debate with me because he knows you'll get in a situation that's not a comfort zone his political advisers will tell him just to avoid it it's not worth doing and the same with the nfu leadership so he'll be recorded back to back and that's just the way it is you know if they were confident their arguments patterson is so uncomfortable with these arguments now he's not making no public statement on the end of the gloucester cull at all he left it to george houston the junior minister has been in the job about eight weeks it has no real knowledge of the issues at all that's the majority of 67 and will be toast at the next election so um that shows you how desperate things are getting he just cleared off to china to sell pig semen rather than actually stay here and tell us what was going wrong with his badger cull so um politicians are not particularly um strong on this at the moment they've been quite cowardly but we need to keep the pressure on them uh but he couldn't even need the labour party and the greens and others to to come out fighting on this i'm pleased to see labour politicians coming out and talking green politicians are coming out and talking uh we need to see that more next year because we're getting close to an election this is a vote issue for many people and it should quite rightly be too so yeah keep doing what you can we'll keep helping you with any materials we can one more question you know we've been in a um of communication with dominic the pilot holes are over but it's very clear that there's no way that the interview or the government they're going to accept that what we believe is that they are a categoric failure and we're at a really dangerous position where they're now talking about the shooting didn't work we're going to proceed with gassing and we're snaring and what has been really just devastating for me and the other bets against the pub is that the veterinary professional bodies and the chief head back have supported this car and we've been very very active in saying that that is completely wrong the veterinarian is important so as we move towards potentially guessing and staring at massive welfare implications it's really important if you have a vet if you have a pet go and talk to them say do you think that this is okay if they don't think it's okay they need to join us in putting pressure on the british revenue association on the royal college and on the chin's head bet we are making a bit of headway we are making life difficult for them but we need more people and that needs to come from you know the consumers um you know people have pets people who care about animals i believe i belong to a profession that puts welfare first and it's very disappointing that there are vets out there so these are the thank you very much
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Educator Melissa Ladd's Story
for more than a decade horse man has sponsored the NEA Foundation awards for teaching excellence because we know how important and deserving it is to shine a light on outstanding teachers who make a difference in their students lives and who continue to elevate the role so please join me in congratulating and honoring five individuals who have been singled out by their peers for going above and beyond and becoming this year's Horace Mann Award recipients it's called grit if you have a lot of grit you don't give up very easily you keep on going even when it gets tough and not very many people have that now [Music] when I say value what am I asking you [Music] [Applause] [Music] you are not only the best teacher ever when teaching but you teach us in a fun way the fifth reason I appreciate you is because you care about our education and that's why we are much quieter than Miss Burberry in the other classes she is really great at conferencing with her students and speaking to them on a level where they feel like they're in control of their learning environment today we're learning about rounding I look like I'm excited do I look like I want to learn no what do I need to be doing getting up for her she has expectations up here for every student in her class sometimes students who are struggling teachers just assume that that's where they're gonna stay but not Melissa she kind of has these expectations and students strive to teethe that she cares very deeply and passionately about the kids that she works with and she cares not only just about their education but about their whole being emotional physical mental health everything that's going on in their lives she knows that all of that affects how they learn in school and whether or not they're going to be successful children are not products that can be manipulated and recreated on a conveyor belt they come in all shapes and sizes with different gifts different challenges I guess that goes back to why I do home visits and stuff because I want the parents to understand that I'm trying to be an advocate for your child me calling you and emailing you and bombarding you is just because I care do you really love teaching celebrity kids she cares about what happens to them and she wants to do what she can do to make their lives better I'm not a I guess the dictator of the classroom even though they called me between I'm really a facilitator for their learning I'm just a coach and I'm here to help them and leave them to make their own decisions about their learning and to enjoy learning and to say that they can be successful they're a bigger faster stronger because that describes our class and she's delightful responsible loyal athletic dedicated and diligent Doug glad you're the best teacher and that is why I wrote this just for you [Music]
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Malware, Penny Stocks, Pharma Spam - Necurs Delivers - Jaeson Schultz
and from tell us of knickers Jason thank you for the invitation to speak with you today my name is Jason Shoultz I am a technical leader with Cisco's Talos group Talos is responsible for security research and intelligence within Cisco today I want to talk about necker's which is the largest botnet the largest spam bot net in the world hopefully through efforts such as this eventually we will be able to take it down one day nickers the first mention I could find of necker's actually sending spam was back in 2012 Microsoft did a blog and that was almost 5 years ago to the day December 6th of 2012 since that time we've seen a huge amount of spirit coming from necker's in fact sometimes it makes up more than 90% of the spam that Cisco sees in any one day so in this talk today we're going to talk about the composition of the necker's botnet where can we find most of the nodes that are participating how much is the re how much is the infrastructure reused across various spam campaigns how big is the botnet itself which is a difficult question to answer we'll talk a little bit about the victims of necker's you know who are the recipients where did these recipients come from how have they been maintaining their recipient database over time we'll took take a look at some examples of some of the campaign's that they've been sending and then try to make a stab at doing a little bit of attribution with some of the data that we have been able to recover from some of the campaign's so we're gonna dive right in and talk a little bit about the data that backs up this project here so the data that we got came from spam cop if you're not familiar with spam cop spam cop is a free service where people can report their spam from anywhere to spam cop spam cop we'll take those spam reports and create a blacklist of IP addresses that have been known to have sent spam this service has been operating since about 1998 so we've been at this for almost 20 years I took and extracted spam campaigns out of spam cop that we had seen that belong to necker's I used various elements like the subject headers which tend to be fairly common as well as other identifying headers and elements of the email to extract 32 different campaigns over the course of four months now that works out to be about two campaigns per week over the course of four months I wanted that to be a fairly representative sample in the end we ended up with over 2.1 million spam messages as part of our set of research data and that was sent by 1.1 9 2 million unique sending IP addresses so regarding the question of how big the necker's botnet is you'll see later when we talk about the reuse of the infrastructure but according to our data it's definitely well north of 1 million unique sending IPs those IPS came from 216 different countries and territories these are countries or territories with an ISO two-letter country code and what did we see I took tried to take representative samples the fake bank statements the fake invoices the dating spam the pumpin dunk stops to pump and dump stock spam that they've been sending fake voicemail messages and more we'll see some examples later so this was the data that I started with now one of the first things that you do when you're looking at this information is you want to look at these sending IP addresses and when we broke those out and we reverse those back to their geolocation we found some interesting results here and you can see based on this graph that the majority of the nodes that we saw participating in necker's were located in India and Vietnam followed closely by you can see Iran then Pakistan I see we've got Indonesia Brazil Mexico let's see Bangladesh Thailand Colombia none of these are necessarily representative of the largest industrialised nations that we see and you can see the the top 10 there and then I've got the next ten that round out the top 20 and you can see that it drops off fairly quickly right compare this to the number of nodes that we've seen in some of the bigger countries or maybe the countries with larger populations in the United States we only found six thousand nodes France only almost three thousand that came from France one of the surprising results was at the bottom only 38 of the emails that we saw actually came from a Russian IP address which I thought that that was pretty interesting so as far as percentages of total India actually represented more than 25% of the total nodes that we saw Vietnam represented about 20% of the total so just between two of those two countries we saw 45% more than 45% of the nodes coming from just those two countries now one of the other things that's interesting you can do with this information is to see how much are the IP addresses reused from campaign to campaign and what we see here is that the vast majority of IP addresses you know almost 1 million of those IP addresses were only ever seen in one single spam campaign and then at the bottom of list we only had 3 IP addresses that were seen in 30 different campaigns there were actually zero IP addresses that we saw in all 32 of the campaigns that we extracted so this means that they've got quite a large botnet doesn't it they are able to mail from these IP addresses and then not reuse them for months this causes a problem sometimes for services like spam cop spam cop when we get a spam complain about an IP address we sent an vacation email to let that network know that they've got spam going through the network when we see the spam go away for a long period of time we tend to assume that the administrator has cleaned up the spam problem unfortunately in this case the the criminals behind necker's actually have so many BOTS that they're able to send from them at an infrequent enough rate to actually do some some serious damage here you can see just how quickly it drops off in terms of the number of campaigns and the number of IPs that were reused so as far as the percentage of the total it was seventy eight point six percent of the total IPS were only ever seen in one single spam campaign ah here are some of the IP addresses that showed up most frequently I went through this list to try to see if there is anything interesting there and of course you can find IP addresses that probably should not be living this long on the botnet so we all I think need to do a better job of reading our logs and looking for evidence of activities such as this so besides the sending IP addresses that are involved with necker's one of the other elements that we took a look at were the victims you know who his knickers attacking with this spam and based on all of the recipients that we were able to gather from the spam campaigns we noted that they are primarily obtaining their email addresses from three sources the first source would be online harvesting now here's an example of an email that i received from necker's it was sent to Equifax at well this was a tagged address that I gave Equifax and it was actually not part of the 2017 breach this was a breach that was years ago at Equifax and that address escaped into the wild and this is one of the addresses that necker's harvested one of the other elements of harvested addresses that we saw we saw lots of email addresses with the number 20 at the beginning and of course in twenty hex is a space character so this was most likely HTML and coding that these guys were actually extracting some of these email addresses out of in addition to the harvested email addresses these guys have also been generating their own user aliases here's an example of one MTA yov Oh y-you know I've never used this address ever but this is pretty typical of these style addresses that you'll see necker's mailing to so they're just kind of generating some of these user addresses and if you run catch-all for your email like I do then these things end up into your inbox also besides these auto-generated out addresses they also mail to accounts that you might typically find at most domains things like abuse at in this case things that are like common role-based accounts webmaster at so on what's fascinating isn't about the last month necker's has stopped mailing to the auto-generated addresses and they're only mailing to the harvested and the role based accounts that they've got on their list now and I think that this is interesting because for about a year knickers had not changed their mailing list at all they keep mailing to the same recipients over and over and over and I had to wonder that if you keep mailing somebody the same ransomware over and over how many times they're going to fall for it and I've been waiting for necker's to do some sort of maintenance to their recipient database right like if you work in email marketing you know that you have to curate your list you're you're constantly adding new names to your list you're you're taking names out that aren't profitable for you maybe those names are the people that do respond get put on a super-special list for you to mail further in the future right you're gonna hit that list extra because these are your good customers well the people behind necker's aren't interested in doing any of that they've been largely mailing to the same set of addresses so it was a bit of surprise earlier this month when they stopped mailing to some of these auto general addresses that were clearly bogus further look at some of the common recipients indicated some some odd nurse here so you can actually see here's a list of accounts that we saw and the number of different domains that we saw with those accounts and some of these are not surprising admin at info at right these are going to be common across lots of domains but what about things like pet Gord thirty-four true W I had never created that address ever at my domain but we saw it not only mailing to my domain but we saw eighteen other domains with this particular user alias as the email address and that was strange the same with this unity underscore unity and a single digit I get these personally at my domain and I also see that they've been mailing to these as well same with doc so nine and I am just sending this letter with one T in the word letter well we looked around and found a list this is from Project honeypot and this is a list that they call the list of the top 100 dictionary attacker usernames and lo and behold on this list we see pet gourd 34 2w and we see I am sending this letter all right so I'm not sure if this is a it's kind of one of those chicken or egg problems right did these names end up on this list because necker's is mailing to them or did necker's receive these names from this list and start using them for their mail campaigns but either way if you see someone mailing to pet gourd 34 true w it's probably nickers who's sending that to you now the spam campaigns typically come in two varieties usually there are high volume campaigns that exist from monday to friday and then there are low volume campaigns that kind of run continuously now there are exceptions we've seen them do high volume campaigns on weekends but this is the type of things that they are sending stock spam here for example this was advertising queue SMG this was one that they were hitting relatively hard and you can actually see this was sent on April 12 and here's what happened to the stock @q SMG I shot up on the day after the initial run for this stock spam campaign but if you were a long-term investor and you were holding on to your cue SMG hoping to extract some money from your investment it's worth about what 2 cents now they also do various dating campaigns you might have seen these that take advantage of email accounts at Rambler dot are you they've also been using accounts at GM XCOM and they've been known to use other free email providers in the past it was interesting we reached out to the CTO of Rambler because we have one of our co-workers was a contact with his on LinkedIn and we provided evidence of the problem and what did he say to us he we promised to block liquidate destroy and send the bear on them maybe send the bear was some kind of weird Russian idiom that got poorly translated or something but if you respond to these campaigns if you actually send an email back to the email address that they're encouraging you to you'll get signed up for a site like this this marmalade is here with a with a free account that's pretty much all they're doing it's an affiliate based model right of course Snickers is also responsible for most of the email based ransomware that's going around these days and this is typical of the ransomware campaigns that they send not very creative most of the time in terms of the content although once in a while you do send let's see something that where they put a little bit of effort into it this is a pretty well done Vodafone bill or it looks like one anyways but this one actually led to a ransomware campaign this was a campaign that got sent earlier today I have no idea what they're doing with this there's no attachment nothing this is not the first time that they've made mistakes when they send out their you know they must have been out drinking last night too and so you know for example we saw it back here when they were doing their pump and dump stocks BAM they sent out this message and it had no mention of the stock that they were pumping so we've also seen them going after cryptocurrency right the price of Bitcoin had something like seventeen thousand dollars yesterday so it's obviously a top of mind for some of these attackers as well this was an email that was trying to get people to click on this link and if you're eagle-eyed you will note that the what word my appears twice this is actually the site that they are spoofing with that URL it's a place to store your crypto coins we'll see more evidence of them doing similar things like that later on they are also have their hands in selling pills and things here's an example of one of those messages and this is pretty typical using the compromised WordPress site as a URL to drop files or to lead the user to so these are all usually compromised WordPress sites or other content management sites so there's not much there that leads us back in terms of attribution we did look at how much these are reused and they tend to select a fairly small set per campaign in terms of reuse of URLs this is an example of one of the lower volume campaigns you can see here that this is in Italian for some reason they have decided that this particular user is Italian and so well you can see every single message that they've been sending me has been in the Italian language here's another necker's recipient that they've decided must be Spanish and so I'm getting the same job mail but in Spanish and you can see the only messages I get from them are in Spanish to this particular account they've associated a language with some of the addresses that they mail to and here is an example of one of the same job campaigns but this one is English and this one's actually really interesting because it lets us take a stab at doing some of the attribution right so if you notice this URL that they are including here it's at a domain new Bing consult top well if you do a who is look up on that particular domain you'll note that it is registered to who is agent at GM XCOM now GM X again is a free email provider but this is designed to look like a who is privacy protection service you know someone who's a security researcher at a quick glance is going to look at this domain and see something like who is agent at GM XCOM and perhaps they'll think oh there's no more information for me to see here but it turns out that who is agent at GM XCOM is really the attacker controlled email address and they've registered lots of domains this particular one has about 400 domains associated with it and if you go to domain tools you can get a nice report like this that shows you the dates of the domains and when they were registered and so on and this is actually a pretty interesting exercise besides being able to see what some of the other domains are that they've been registering you can take those dates and you'll see you know for example a lot of these campaigns one registered on February 22nd it seemed to be about the standard one-year domain registration all right but if you go through some of these some of these are a little bit more interesting you can take some of the domains and look at the ones that have been registered recently and get an idea you know what are the attacks that these folks are conducting right now and we can see yes these guys are very very interested in crypto coins these are all the sites designed to trick people into logging in and providing their credentials to blockchain dot info one of the other sites that we saw and that's why I say it was really interesting looking at the dates of the domain registrations most of the domains were registered for a single year in this case they actually had maintained the domain registration for multiple years on this domain PP 24 WS which anyone can sign up for an account there and it's an account for buying and selling stolen credit card numbers with the CVV and this is they're also doing ssh credentials and things like that you anybody can do this I actually found a reference on reddit for that this was one of the best places to buy stolen credit card numbers we also get clues from passive dns and this is where we start to be able connect more of the dots so one of the domains here the set info conf comm caught my eye i started looking at passive dns it turns out that the IP address that was hosting that was hosting a lot of other domains and some of those domains were not owned by Whois protect or who has agent at gmx they were owned by Whois protect at hotmail are you seeing the pattern here again this is trying to evade folks who might want to you know might want to be doing some research the names changed they're typically a Chinese name like here we have Wang well what was the previous one Xing Wang Wang Wow wincing they've even used who is agent in the past as well which we saw at the GMX account so pretty sure that these are the same guys they register the same types of do domains their operational security leaves a little bit to be desired here we can see where the Whois protect address is actually the technical and the administrative contact for a domain but there's a whole different address as the registrant and if you look at the domains involved with that address they are pretty bad as well so repeating this exercise we were able to actually find a bunch of different registering accounts that belong to the attackers so this I was looking at some of those blockchain themed sites and I found this IP address which belongs to Ali Baba and found a bunch of domains that were hosted around the same time you can see 1019 1021 1025 these all have different domain registrants and some of these may be familiar to you because if you do any research into attacks these have been used in some other attacks there's actually a couple more we have these two as well so I started looking around here's some evidence that SEO boss that says now I'm not cz has been involved with the rig exploit kit and you can see that that poultry is thought gdn domain is located here Gallico lat mail comm similar locky they're involved with locky there's the Whois information for that domain X lbs also similarly up to no good and GM Cho 1955 you know again some of these domains you know the the more you look the more malicious activity that you can uncover what was great about this was they were all hosted on the same ip around the same time we reached out to ollie Bob McLeod and they were able to tell us that a single cloud instance was in control of that IP address for the entire 10-day period at the end of October and so what we were able to do was essentially tie together various different domain registrations basically to the same group we've also been able to establish the the hotmail account who has protect at hotmail we were able to find some information out about who had been logging into that account and it turns out that they were logging in from a VPS machine and based in Russia okay so attribution is hard and we're gonna keep digging on this you can probably find even more if you dig into some of these addresses here but this is the types of things that we're doing to try to combat knickers from inside of Talos so hopefully this has been enjoyable for you I'm running near the end of my time so I'm going to leave you with a bit of my contact information if you have any questions feel free to reach out thank you for your time [Applause] thank you Jason are there any questions yeah hey thank you for the presentation I got two questions first one can you share from your experience what's the ratio between malicious payloads and other scams conducted by necker's second of all it seems to be like mostly service like all the infrastructures that you've seen you've seen are owned by someone else are some of the operations belonging to the necros operators themselves like boutique operations that they use the network for okay you know good questions so the ratio of malicious content to non malicious content I would say is somewhere probably 80/20 or 90/10 they've send far more malicious content and I believe that's probably because they make more money on ransomware than they do on things like affiliate campaigns where they're just sending you know dating spam or trying to get people to buy pills or something like this and and your other question was about the infrastructure how much of that infrastructure belongs to the necker's attackers themselves well a lot of times they're reusing stolen infrastructure right they're reusing WordPress sites or other content management sites but every so often we'll see them registering their own domains and that's how we were able to get some of their domain registry accounts by following back through some of the passive DNS data we've also been able to tie additional domains to them I don't believe that they are entirely aware when it comes to things like I said like operational security they're not necessarily thinking that we have that view into the passive DNS that we have otherwise they would probably be doing a better job of hosting things in different places they would certainly do a better job of making the registrations private like using a real Whois privacy protection service but it seems that you know maybe no one's come after them seriously or maybe they're in a place where no one will and so they just maybe don't care good question thank you Thanks we have another question just don't stare I you've mentioned that a single IP address would be used in only one campaign or likely have you seen how much of ipv6 adoption have you seen in in that case I haven't seen much out of ipv6 yet as as a general amount that we see we see maybe you know less than a half a percent of the traffic that we see coming into spam cop is sent from ipv6 directly most people who send email will use things like v6 to v4 gateways and the like but occasionally we do see a piece of mail that sent through ipv6 and that's it's on the order of you know less than 10 you know and in several months so thank you thanks for the talk have you seen an accursed botnet becoming inactive for certain periods and what's the longest period you've seen it be caught mean active yes so about a year ago at Christmas it kind of went silent or at least the high volume campaigns went silent they were still sending those low volume continuous campaigns it's almost I feel like it's a setting that they turned on and kind of walk away and it just keeps going and I think they're doing that to try to take two different approaches right the stealth approach and then the the bombing approach but I've actually seen them take breaks of up to a few months some of the breaks have coincided with holiday periods out of Russia Ukraine area but again attribution is hard you know who knows they tend to send it all different times a day sometimes they'll take a week off it definitely feels like this is a regular business for them I strongly suspect that after the arrests in Russia it was in May of 2015 there was some rust arrests related to the alert banking Trojan and right after that we saw several high profile threats including necker's drop-off flying and the way that it's been managed since that time you know not changing the recipient address is you know screwing up and just not even putting the attachment in there these are all things that never really used to happen that much and since then they have been so it almost feels like the guys who went to jail kind of gave their keys to the botnet to maybe one of their friends who has no clue what to do with it and they're just trying to keep it going right but I do feel like there's a connection there simply because of some of those activities right shutting down right after the arrests and and so on Thanks thank you Jason Thanks [Applause]
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Lake Orion Girls Varsity Basketball vs Groves 1-19-2023
foreign [Music] welcome to tonight's girls varsity basketball matchup here at the Coliseum at Lake Orion High School we got the Lake Orion dragons going up against the Birmingham Groves Falcons the last time the Groves Falcons have beat the Lake Orion dragons and varsity girls basketball was 2017 so this is a big game for the Falcons Lake Orion coming off a win last night against flushing here at Lake Orion so this is a big game for them as well to continue their winning streak from last night Charlie what do you think so far about this game you know I don't know much about Groves all I know is that uh even though the record doesn't show it they've got grit that's what I've heard about them and Lake Orion you know we've seen them play multiple times you know they got a they got a 9-2 record coming off of a big win it's gonna be a good game too right it's been a good game absolutely The Groves with their three and eight record coming into tonight trying to look for another win Groves has one away win this season so try to add another one onto the record tonight as well for that and tonight for the starters for Lake Orion you have number 12 Chloe uyghurs number 20 Maddie Evert number 24 Taylor Dinda number 34 Kylie heck number 40 Ryan palaccik and then for the Falcons you have number three Kirsten jensinski number 11 Caitlin Sanders number 20 Cirque Sierra Rocco number 23 Cameron little number 24 Lily Galler tip off here moment Taylor uyghurs starts off with the ball with for the dragons [Applause] uyghurs for Dinda to hack for three and it's no good Sanders taking the ball up now for Groves and it's stolen almost by dindo but it's gotten back by Groves uyghurs gets the ball she takes it up for Lake Orion uyghurs to the hall layup no good Sanders now with the ball for Groves passes it to number 20. Sierra Rocco [Applause] Sanders except for dribble to pass it to number 24. call her as it's stolen now by Everett to polachik to the hole and and one for the dragons as it's good for number 41 Ryan polacic for the dragon's first bucket tonight she'll have one free throw at the line remind me T-rex uh Ryan a junior or sophomore she is a junior it's one of our younger players isn't it wrong yeah she's been on Varsity now for two years Varsity is a sophomore as well very talented player so free throw is good for polacic Sanders now the ball up the multiple three-pointers their last game against Riverview stolen almost by ever Groves remains with the ball Rocco passes it back to Sanders Sanders to jacinski the shot is no good as Dinda takes up the court now for the dragons trying to look for a double team now with Groves as uyghur says the bomb passes it back to Dinda down to one knee is denda pack in the corner kicks it to polachik passes incomplete to logic so it'll be Groves ball at the Baseline defense on both teams are insane absolutely whole team's playing very hard this Groves team is a very defensive team it's a very older team too they have multiple Juniors and seniors on their team as well as one freshman and it's not it's very similar enough of the dragons with multiple seniors now for the dragons I believe nine seniors for the dragons which is a huge senior class it'll be a double dribble called now on Groves number three Kirsten jensinski [Applause] Maddie Evert and bring the ball up now for the dragons Dinda passes to heck heck with a crossover she passed it to polachik in the middle palacek to Everett for three and it's no good here we got a Tuggle for the ball there but referee signals jump ball it'll be Groves basketball going the other way at the Baseline [Applause] Cameron little passes it to Rocco but the pass is stolen by Maddie Everett a tremendous defensive player for the dragons ever to the hole and it's good fear from ever he goes right up there absolutely no fear Sanders kicking it to jasonski Sanders back again with the ball Rocco in the corner could be a jump ball again dragons fired up they'll be getting that jump ball there [Applause] big news now for Maddie Everett the point guard bringing the ball up just today now she will be playing college ball at Baldwin Wallace University some big news for Maddie shop by din does no good [Applause] it'll be Falcons ball going the other way [Applause] [Music] Rocco checking the ball up the court passes it to little but the pass is incomplete as it's stolen by Chloe wieger as she goes for the layup and it's good for the dragons again with that defense Ty it's they're not they're not an easy team to you know get that ball from or to you know it'll be a time out now for Birmingham Groves thanks to Orion neighborhood television and dragon broadcasting you can watch lohs sports live online all year it costs less than 11 per month to watch sporting events and half of that money goes back to the lohs program be sure to designate Lake Orion High School when you set up your account get started at www.dragonbroadcasting.org on TV thanks you for thanks our students crew for their hard work and dedication in bringing Dragon Sports to the world thanks Charlie [Applause] Sanders now with the ball for Groves now little shoots a three and it's no good it's rebounded by the dragons but I believe it went off uyghur's foot and yes it is it'll be Groves ball [Applause] little passes it to Rocco good defense there by the dragons as they deflect the ball it'll be Groves basketball still 24 Galler now the boss passes it back Sanders Sanders Gotta Buy hacks uyghur tries to steal it but it is stolen still by number 34 Kylie hack denda tries to pass it to polachik but it's stolen by Sanders Sanders goes in for the layup but it's no good Sanders gets the rebound she puts it back up no good again now passes it to heck Everett passes it back to heck uyghurs to dendo for three and it's no good we'll be over the backboard there as it will be Groves basketball Groves making some substitutions there [Applause] Sanders now gonna kick it back to Rocco Sanders very big player for Groves multiple three-pointers last week as I said earlier 10. Taryn Brown kicks it back to Rocco Rocco for three and it's no good uyghur is gonna push the ball now as she moves like a race card on the court she passes it back to polacic as polacic it's set to the floor and there will be a foul in Two Shots now for the dragons until 24 wasn't wasn't up wasn't putting up there oh absolutely that was Groves had like a billion beer Detroit bad boys fall right there she sent her to the floor there pretty hard first free throw for Pilates is good number 23 Audrey wishmeyer checked in now for the dragons [Applause] plachik leading the team points tonight [Applause] shot good by politic number 25 Jody McCaffrey checked in now for number 41 Ryan plazic for dragons Cameron little correction to Elise Alexander will pass the ball in to Rocco for Groves Falcons [Music] Sanders now in and out step back for three and it's good what a shot Caitlyn Sanders for the Falcons their first point for the night ever and be patient looking for opportunity to strike she crosses the ball over goes to the hole in trouble pack for three shot fake goes to the free throw line and takes a mid-range jumper but it's no good McCaffrey fighting for a jump ball in there it'll be Groves ball number 23 Cameron little checked back in for the Falcons [Applause] little with the ball passes effect Alexander Alexander in trouble looks like as the dragons press back to little and it's stolen by Maddie ever as she goes the other way and another foul there by number 24 Lily Gallagher for Groves Maddie ever will have two shots they should be scared Matty Everett's a good shooter absolutely she had nine points last night 10 points correction against flushing as well as Taylor Dinda with nine points foreign [Applause] dragons sophomore will come in always impressive to see underclassmen on varsity one of her in her classmate or her is he Jim he's injured two games ago yes Sanders now kicks it but the pass is almost incomplete passes it back to number 22. can't Ella bank but a little dragon ball for the jump ball it'll be I'll wish Meyer passing the ball in the ever Patty Albert floor General there for the dragons kicks it to McCaffrey in the middle Caffrey makes an incomplete pass as Groves intercepts it Sanders gonna take the ball the Court gives wishmire a fake and be patient here score 11-3 like Orion in the lead there's a screen now and she kicks it back number 10. Taryn Brown passes it back Sanders for three and it's no good we're gonna foul now on the floor [Applause] we follow Beyond Groves is Lake Orion we'll get the ball watch Maddie ever taking the ball up the court like orange looking good tonight with a decent lead here over Groves early McCaffrey with the ball in the middle but the shot is blocked by number 11 Caitlyn Sanders she passes it to Rocco for a layup and Rocco is followed and she will have two shots she is filed on her layup fall is on number 24 Taylor Dinda for the dragons she'll have two shots shot is no good I think you're saying earlier earlier t-rat I think Groves might have the age advantage to Lo ello's got a few youngsters on the court yeah that's true absolutely the shot is good there so now give the growth Falcons one more Point wish Meyer with the ball in the corner she kicks it back to Dinda Dinda to pablowski then down the middle she kicks it to ever [Applause] ever to wish Meyer for three and it's no good Sanders now kicks it it's a brown brown back blank blank back to Sanders Sanders looking like she's trying to set up something here she crosses over back to her left and it's stolen by Everett once again Edward taking the ball down the court she passes it to McCaffrey and the shot is no good for Jody McCaffrey Sanders now for the Breakaway layup and it's good wishmeyer passing it back to Everett ever to dindo for three and it's good for three for number 24 Taylor Dinda [Applause] Rocco now through the legs taking the ball she's pressed by poplowski denda for the layup and it's no good good defense there number 10 Taryn Brown and that is the end of the first quarter score 14-6 now we will take it down to our sideline reporter Ryan Bunn nice guys I spoke to Birmingham Groves head coach uh Allison Heidi before the game on what her team can do to come back after losing back-to-back games she said that they need to protect the ball play aggressive defense and finish in the basket they haven't done too well in aggressively defending so far or really keeping possession so we'll see if they can pick that up throughout the rest of the game thank you Ryan I appreciate it yeah Grove's struggling a little bit here early to get some points off I think Orient a very good team as you said Lake Orion is undefeated at home this year so a very hard team to be at home this year Lake Orion's most recent loss to Detroit Renaissance [Music] and then also their loss at Little Caesars arena in the overtime loss to Rochester Lake Orion been playing very good basketball this season as coach Bob Bridges said he's very confident in the team this year as they have nine seniors who have been playing together he says since he can't remember he's had Kylie heck senior right now who's been on Varsity since she was a freshman I'm gonna start off the second quarter uyghurs will have the ball for the dragons uyghurs kicks at the wishmire wish Meyer to heck heck kicks it to uyghurs uyghurs gonna go into the key let's just passes it back to papowsky popovski gonna attack the middle as she kicks it to uyghurs uyghurs with a shot fake as she kicks it the heck back to wishmire crosses it over to the middle she passed it back to heck with a shot fake she goes to the middle scoop shot and it's good [Applause] two points for number 34 Kylie heck Sanders not a Rocco Rocco can attack she picks up her dribble kicks it back so jancinski if she takes a shot and it's no good kapowsky with the rebounds she passes it to uyghurs who years to wish Meyer for three and that shot misses and it will be Groves ball going the other way [Applause] Rocco and Sanders two very key players as we see here now for Groves [Music] [Applause] jinsinski passes it to Rocco and that'll be an and one call as the basket is made with a foul for Groves [Applause] for the dragons that'll be our first foul tonight Rocco the free throw and it's good pushing the score to 16-9 dragons in the lead still we yours and the ball up she kicks it to pablovski dangerous pass there as it almost goes out of bounds but kaploski recovers to wishmire we're Smart uyghurs in the middle is pablovski for three as she shoots it it goes off the rim and it's no good but it is rebounded by number 12 Chloe uyghurs as she puts it in for the dragons two points Rocco crossover she attacks the middle defended by wishmire Rocco passes it to blank blank to Brown number 10 Taryn brown with her first points tonight as she hits a mid-range jumper for Groves uyghurs it bounce past the logic hands it off to uyghurs as heck gets the ball back up at the top of the three-point line as she attacks for the layup and it's no good for 34. Kylie heck and Groves makes an incomplete pass there as it'll be Lake Orion ball [Applause] uyghurs gonna push as Groves runs a press uyghurs breaks it pretty easily as she gets fouled and goes in for a layup and makes it so she not only will get the two points but one free throw as well [Music] uyghurs now free throw is no good the gore in the past couple games been struggling at the line with free throws [Applause] Sanders now going to push it it's the middle but Cuts back out and the ball is out of bounds but the referee says it's off of number 11 Caitlyn Sanders but Sanders looks to be a bit frustrated about that call the referee uyghurs now we're gonna get something started here for the dragons as they lead by nine but paulsky shot fake and then kick it to heck as she's open for three Kylie heck good as she drains it as it splashes through the net for three points for the dragons Sanders now [Applause] go right to the top of the three-point line she passes it back to Rocco Rocco picking up her dribble as it's stolen by palacek in the pass Palazzo gonna take it to the middle she kicks at the uyghurs uyghur's gonna go back out with a smart move there by Chloe uyghurs and she looked like she was a bit in trouble there so she throws the ball off Groves player off the defender and it'll be Lake Orion ball [Music] denda now check them for the dragons and number 20 Maddie Evert hack an attack the ball is poked out of her hand but got back by the dragons as uyghurs crosses it over pivots kicks at the heck Heck on attack kicks at the Dinda shot back goes in the middle Dinda scoop shot layup and it's good for number 24 Taylor Dinda great all-around player for the dragons it's like Dennis Rodman on defense like Carl Malone on offense [Applause] densinski now holding the ball she passes it back to Sanders as Sanders takes a shot and she is fouled Obama [Music] correction no foul in the shot but there is a foul on Groves we have a push on the floor by Groves number 32 Nevaeh Cochran McKay there's gonna be Lake Orion ball as Maddie ebbert brings the ball up [Applause] kicks into uyghurs as Rocco tries to get a steal as they're both tripped up [Applause] and the referee will call a push on number 20. Sierra Rocco for Groves and Chloe uyghurs now for the dragons will be at the line for free throws shot is good for Chloe uyghurs [Applause] she makes the one-on-one free throw and now we'll have one more free throw [Applause] the shot is no good number 32 Nevaeh Cochran McKay passes it now Mr Sanders Caitlyn Sanders Crossing it over trying to figure out what to do here passes it back to Sierra Rocco Rocco back out for a mid-range jumper and it's no good ever reboundish she takes the ball up crosses it over and passes it to Dinda Dinda and she's double teamed and another foul now by number 20. Sierra Rocco they're racking up the fouls you're right yeah uh very aggressive defense now as we see from the Birmingham Groves Falcons here in the second quarter is denda now will have one-on-one free throws as the first shot is no good it's rebounded by Groves number 11 Caitlin Sanders will take the ball up for the Falcons Rocco now back to Sanders in the corner shopfic by Sanders as it's off Sanders foot it'll be dragon's ball [Applause] great defense by both teams so far is the dragon's lead 26 to 11. [Music] Everett now [Applause] you take the ball up she makes a crossover spins back to a right kicks at the denda for three with dinner with a shot big kicking it to heck for three and it's good for number 34. Kylie heck for three [Applause] number 11 Caitlyn Sanders [Applause] not gonna pass it to number 32 Nevaeh Cochran McKay but the pass is intercepted by the dragons and now Chloe wieger goes Chloe uyghurs goes in for a breakaway layup and the dragons playing fast Place ball here trying to make it very difficult for the Falcons to keep up score here 31 is 31-11 with the dragons in the lead and there was a timeout called you know t-ret this is a high scoring game for our low oh [Applause] uh we're trying to stock the shelves for the Oxford Orion fish food pantry on TV is celebrating their 13th annual food drive to support fish it will be a five-day fun drive running from February 6th to the 10th our goal is five thousand dollars you can visit our website to donate at orionontv.org [Applause] thanks Charlie yeah I completely agree this is a very high scoring game for the dragons the dragons playing very fast you see him playing a lot of Fast Break where they're like we're gonna come out and we're gonna play tough defense we're gonna get Steals on defense and we're gonna take it to the hole for easy layups and that's exactly what we're seeing here and Bob Bridges has said since the start of the season I asked them immediate day what is the biggest key for you guys winning games this year he says we have to play our game dragon basketball we got to make good passes we got to make free throws we got to make shots and the dragons are doing that tonight as you can see they have a 20-point lead with two minutes about here in the second quarter Grove's trying to pick it up here as Sanders passes it to degrandle the grand all tries to pass the Sanders but Jody McCaffrey intercepts it as she loses the ball trying to go for a layup it'll be Birmingham Groves ball Fontana black man checked in for the dragons from a 34 Kylie heck the Grand Ole passes at the Sanders Sanders trying to make a pass as it's almost intercepted by the dragons the grand old now passes it to Sanders Sanders gonna attack she takes a shot and it's good for number two Caitlyn Sanders has weakers goes in for a layup and it's good for two for number 12 Chloe uyghurs for the dragons Sanders now patiently taking the ball up the court trying to let things develop for her offense as [Applause] as McCaffrey gets the ball passing it to uyghurs ever for three and it's no good as blackney rebounds it kicks it back to uyghurs McCaffrey now kicking it to Everett for three again and she does says Nope not a second time not missing that's three for Maddie ebbert foreign ERS now kicking the ball [Applause] it's number 32 McKay as the ball is stolen by Maddie ever as she kicks it to McCaffrey for a layup and McCaffrey is follow the 25 seconds left to go on the second quarter and she will have two free throws our first team tonight for the team's ninth foul tonight for Groves a lot of fouls don't want to get in foul trouble here against this Lake Orion team as McCaffrey takes the first free throw and it's missed [Applause] [Music] McCaffrey's second free throw good as now 23 Cameron little passes it to degrandle little now on the corner back to Rocco Rocco going to attack she takes a three-pointer and it's no good off the backboard Rocco gets the rebound as she shoots another mid-range shot and it's good for number 20 Sierra Rocco for the final shot of the first half scoring now at half 37-15 dragons in the lead and we will go as that's the end of the first half to a commercial break [Music] [Applause] all right yeah we see here Lake Orion now playing good ball here and we will take it down to our sideline reporter Ryan Bunn all right thanks guys I'm on the court here with head coach Bob bridges for Lake Orion coach what'd you see under the first half well we came out like we want to um third game in four days we said we want to come out be intense on defense and really run it on if we could we've been pushing the ball before well Ball's moving great uh defense look good only give up 15 in the first half look for more of that in the second half want to continue to extend our lead we don't want to settle um Groves are still a good squad they got a couple really good players but we just got to keep playing our game thanks coach we'll see you guys in the second half foreign we're there to serve make sure we're creating a fair atmosphere for both teams upholding the Integrity of the game I chose to be an official it's the best decision I've made in life things aren't scripted games aren't prescripted you know I got into officiating because my father was an official officiating was part of our family life it wasn't just the game it's be outside get to like experience the game it's so much more fun you can get a lot out of it if you're an athlete we need people like you and translate those skills to officiating it helped me become not only a better official but a better person happens in every town in every game we never have a perfect game but the rewards always outweigh the negativities and it's just been wonderful [Applause] I don't think anybody would care if I just stopped coming to school not other things that used to bring me joy bring me joy anymore sometimes I wish I could just disappear I wish I had somebody just to talk to my mental health matters my mental health matters my mental health matters my mental health matters my mental health matters my mental health matters our mental health matters [Music] as we start the third quarter Groves now with the ball Sanders getting played hard defense there by Kylie heck number 23 Cameron little makes a good two-pointer to start off the half for the Falcons palacek now in the middle as she steps through trying to go for a shot but it is blocked by number 11. Caitlyn Sanders for the Falcons [Music] [Applause] Chloe uyghurs passing into polachik in the middle shot is missed by palacek She kicks at the Dinda gonna kick it back up to uyghurs ever passing in the middle to heck heck to plot chick layup is no good by Ryan polacic Sanders now going to bring the ball up as she passes it to little [Music] ball is stolen almost by ever and it is stolen by number 34 Kylie heck Dinda now gonna push the ball down the court Everett goes in the middle scoop shot layup and it's no good almost rebounded there by Maddie little now gonna push the ball down the court passes it to Sanders Sanders to little gonna hold the ball past it to Rocco Rocco trying to make a pass to Sanders but the pass is incomplete uyghurs now gonna pass the ball in to uyghurs now gonna have the ball gonna pick up her dribble and pass it back to Everett Everett to heck shot fake by hack because she kicks it to Pilates but the pass is incomplete and stolen by Groves [Applause] Sarah Rocco now she struggles in the middle and loses the ball some scrapping for the ball down in the paint and it will be dragons basketball [Applause] [Music] 12 Chloe uyghurs now gonna give the ball to ever his ever passes to balajik and the layup is good for the dragons number 41 Ryan polacic number 11 Caitlin Sanders step back shot and she drains it from mid-range number 11 Caitlin Sanders for the Falcons Sanders now going to press as she steals the ball back Rocco tries to make a pass to centers in the middle but is intercepted by Lake Orion's number 20 Maddie ebbert [Applause] and now we will get a timeout from Lake Orion [Applause] foreign did you know that omtv has its very internet radio station you can create your own podcast or radio Shore sign up to become a DJ for more information on the radio station give us a call at 248-9 or 393-1060 thanks Charlie for the timeout Dragon Ball ever gonna speed right through the middle kick the Dinda gives a little jab steps passes it back to Everett ever to uyghurs where's the Dinda in the middle but the layup is no good number 24 Taylor denda and then we've got Caitlin Sanders not gonna push the ball through as she goes to the hole for the Falcons and layup is no good rebounded by uyghurs passes it full court to Everett but the layup is no good as it's rebounded by Lake Orion heck now for three and it's no good Falcons rebound it number 11 Caitlin Sanders now gonna heave it try to hit her teammate is number 24. Willie Gallagher takes a shot and she is fouled so she will get two free throws foul is on the dragons Taylor Dinda Two Shots now I forgot her shot is good [Applause] second free throw no good for Groves but it is rebounded by number 11 Caitlin Sanders two points now for Groves Grove is coming out much more aggressive this next half as they try to steal it again and they do Sanders goes in for another layup and it's no good is they try to save it but it doesn't work out is like orange still gets the ball uyghurs to palacek palacek to Everett for three and it's good for the dragons number 20. Maddie Evert for three [Applause] Sanders now gonna fake the screen she kicks it to number three jinsinski the shot is no good as the dragons pick up the ball and now I've logic back to ever ever for the layup switches back to her left and it's good for two an impressive shot there by Maddie Evert it's on fire tonight yeah she's feeling it Rocco now I'm gonna feel I'm getting a Groove here for Grove so she's pushed back by Dinda and now Maddie ever trying to get a steal but there's a jump ball call and it will be it'll be Groves dragons basketball correction tonight has just been punch after punch you know Lake Orion gives Groves a punch Groves punches him right back absolutely Lake Orion this is a or I'd like to call him heavyweight team for sure in the OAA red very hard division plan uyghurs now kicking it to McCaffrey McCaffrey kicks at the Dinda gonna take a few dribbles she moves the ball taking it to the middle she goes for a layup and it's no good but she is fouled so she will have two shots at the line number 24 Taylor Dinda two shots first one is off the rim and no good [Applause] Mick Orient team has multiple all league players and Kylie heck Maddie ever Chloe uyghurs and Taylor Dinda from last year and that will be on the floor there foul and it'll be Groves ball [Applause] thank you [Music] JC Roy I checked in for Groves and the ball is stolen by number 20 Maddie Everett igorian trying to recover the ball there as they're scrapping for it on the floor and they do uyghurs now trying to make a pass but it's stolen Again by Groves Groves playing much more faster here in the second half Preston playing hard Sanders behind the back turns her back to heck and now there will be a foul on the floor on the dragons number 34 Kylie heck both teams are being very aggressive tonight they're showing grit which is good for you know basketball it's one of the key components oh yeah The Groves just realizing like this like orange team they're no joke we gotta put our best foot forward and I feel like the second half they've stepped it up a lot more number 10 Taryn Brown now kicking it back it's JC Roy Roy to degrandle the Grendel takes a shot but they will call traveling on the Falcons so we'll be Lake Orion Ball but they continue to press the dragons as the night goes on here in the second half wishmire now making a crossover back trying to attack Everett now gonna push the ball in the middle as she takes a shot and she is fouled and she gets Two Shots man if I was the dragons taking this many shots in the middle and just keep getting foul after foul you have to think that's got to take a it's gonna take a take a toll on you after a while after getting just bumped and bruised all night but as we see Matty Ebert being tough and pushing through it takes her first shot is missed for Maddie Evert looks it looks like they're putting in the sophomore from Spain yes Carmen number 44 Carmen huertas she's from Spain first year plan organized basketball here in America [Applause] and the ball is stolen now as the pass from Groves Everett takes it to the hole gives her a little Euro Step and puts it right off the glass for two do not let her in the paint She's Dangerous number two JC Roy kicking it to degrandle the Grand Old now passes it to Nevaeh Cochran as Cochran is fouled as she goes to the line for two Puerto gets the foul first shot is missed for Nevaeh Cochran McKay she gets one more here at the line score 47-22 dragon's still in the lead and the shot is missed but it is rebounded by Groves number 10. Taryn Brown takes a three and it's no good Roy rebounds it kicks it back it's number 10. brown but the ball goes out of bounds after the miss and wishmire now will have the ball at the Baseline should inbound the ball hoping that this press they've been learning to break all night wish Meyer now gonna push the ball up kicks it to Everett [Applause] ever to McCaffrey huertos in the middle looking for a first bucket and the shot is no good McCaffrey now intercepts the ball and passes it to Taylor Dinda Taylor Dinda tries to go for a layup but it's over the backboard and no good is number 44 Carmen have that height Advantage absolutely it's gonna be a big adjustment [Applause] coach Bob Bridges says the biggest difference here in America according to Carmen is the defense philosophy of much harder much harder plan defense number 14 to Grandville tries to make a pass but it goes out of bounds so it'll be dragging basketball going the other way [Applause] McCaffrey gonna pass it to Everett and we're gonna push it whoerates tries to get the ball juggles it as she goes in and passes it to Dinda denda to wishmire wish Meyer to huertas but whoeres drops the ball and it will be Groves basketball degrandle now gonna bring the ball up for the Groves Falcons she's guarded at half court by Taylor Dinda [Music] [Applause] gonna take the ball right back to her left through the legs crosses it over now Roy will have the ball she tries to make a pass but it's intercepted Again by Maddie ebbert wish Meyer Breakaway lip shot fake shot his block but Dinda gets the ball rebounded and puts it in four two about 30 seconds to remain here in this third quarter number 10. Taryn Brown tries to make a pass but it is out of bounds as it goes incomplete have he ever passes it to Dinda into patiently passing it back to her teammate Maddie Evert ever gonna hold the ball she kicks it back to denda Dinda to Huerta shot fake passes it to McCaffrey and number 25 Jody McCaffrey makes the layup now for the dragons Roy gets the ball kicking it back to Brown Brown to 32 McKay but there is no shot as that is the end of the third quarter score 51-22 and now we will take it down to our sideline reporter Ryan Bond thanks guys this isn't the final team that these two teams face off against each other in just over a month in February 21st these two teams face off again but this time in Birmingham we'll see if that Birmingham home crowd can help the grows get a win to prevent the dragons from getting the season sweep back to you guys for the fourth quarter thanks Ryan I appreciate it yeah this team right now Lake Orion showing their speed multiple times where they've shown strength speed accuracy from shooting but the one thing that we have to say that I we've seen now the dragons struggle with a little bit and we saw against Stoney Creek last week was these full court presses we've seen now again against Groves the dragon's struggling a little bit to get the ball inbounded against these presses and Coach broad Bridges said that something they continue to work on here in practice [Applause] now as we begin the fourth quarter uyghurs now with the ball [Applause] the Guinness now passes to McCaffrey howeritus now kicks at the heck heck goes for a layup and it's off the rim and no good and now Sanders now gonna push it use your speed as she goes behind the back goes to the hole and the shot is no good but she is fouled and now Sanders will have two shots [Applause] correction though there will be no shots the followers on the floor so the Grove stockings take the ball out of bounds Sanders now gets the ball McCaffrey playing defense tight here crossover shot and it is good for number 11. Caitlyn Sanders now for Groves Groves continue to press as uyghurs brings the ball up crosses it over has to go through the middle take a shot and she is fouled and uyghurs will be at the line now for two shots she'll be shooting two free throws ladies and gentlemen and it's good for one point now for the dragons dragons lead 52-25 with 27 point lead second free throw is good for Chloe uyghurs dragons continuing to run a half court press the big lead that they have [Applause] a Guinness guards and now heck guard Sanders as she goes to the middle but there will be a foul on the floor on the dragons number 25 Joey McCaffrey The Groves ball out of Bounds at the Baseline Sanders now tries to catch it but the ball is stolen by heck pack gives it to uyghurs passes it to McCaffrey McCaffrey tries to make a pass back to Alana McGinnis but ball goes out of bounds it'll be gross ball Sanders now keeping the ball low she makes a crossover on Kylie heck for three the Sanders is no but it's rebounded by Groves and the shot is no good Carmen now gonna push the ball up the court for the dragons as she passes it to heck and now again it's now with the ball top of the key tries to go through the middle as the ball is swatted out of her hand by Groves and Grove's last touched it so that means it'll be Lake Orion ball looks like Lake Orion will call a timeout here [Applause] DVD DVD copies can be purchased by calling on TV at 248-393-1060 for only ten dollars you can get a copy of not only this game but any game or program in our broadcast Vault that's DVD copies 248-393-100 thanks Charlie the Lake Orion you see the talent tonight as they're producing very well on offense and defense playing in the OAA probably one of the best divisions in the state of Michigan showing that they are an elite team here in the state I like Oriental inbound it as heritis gets the ball she takes the shot and it is good for the center number 44 Carmen huertas with their first points of the evening now Roy will have the balls that's stolen by Alana McGinnis the Junior [Applause] and now it is stolen Again by Lake Orion's number 12 Chloe Leaguers [Applause] oh where it is gonna shoot a three and it's no good but it's rebounded by Kylie heck but the rebound shot is no good it will be a foul on the floor on number 34 Kylie heck [Music] number 11 Allison May number 21 Fontana blackney will come in now for the dragons about six minutes left to go here in the fourth quarter dragons with a 30-point lead [Applause] and now Sanders taking the ball up she hits gets a Wham screen there from her teammate the Sanders takes a mid-range jumper and it's no good as number 12. uyghurs gets the ball she pushes the ball up for the dragons passes back to huertos with a shot fake huertos goes in takes a layup and it's off the glass the bank is open and it is good for two no number two Roy now with the ball passes it back it's a little little takes a shot and it's no good awareness now push the ball up using her speed as she passes it to uyghurs uyghurs to may may with a shot fake goes back to her right and she kicks it to huertas for three and Carmen alert is showing off some serious Reigns as she splashes it through the net for three for the dragons [Music] now Sanders pushing the ball up for Groves taking a shot it's no good well Sanders again for three no good the Guinness tries to get the ball but she touches it last and it will be Groves ball Carmen's showing a lot of aggression in this fourth period absolutely showing off for skill and we haven't seen a ton from Carmen this year but this is a big game for her definitely as she has the most points she's ever had in any game tonight with the season-high points tonight [Applause] it's seven points by the way and the ball is off the foot of Rocco as McGinnis takes it to the hole but there will be [Applause] blocked but no foul so clean block there for Groves it'll be like we're in Boston though though it's McGinnis looking to pass the ball into hawera test but huertis loses the ball but she tries to steal it back as both girls go to the ball there Rocco and huertas number 22 Ella Blanc passes it back to Rocco Rocco to brown brown trying to make a pass to the Grand Ole but it is stolen by Allison May for the dragons McGinnis now gonna push the ball McGinnis passes it to Garcia Garcia to blackney lackney to haweratus whoertes gonna go for another score and it's off but the referee will say that the shot unfortunately ladies and gentlemen does not count the foul was before the shot so it will not count but it still will be Lake Orion basketball at the Baseline it's McGinnis throws the ball in for the dragons Allison May and take the shot in as she shoots it over the defender for a floater for Allison May's first two points of the night [Applause] everyone's scoring tonight for the dragons they're all on fire now degrandle in trouble there she passes it to Rocco Rocco gonna attack the hole and she loses the ball but it still will be Groves ball Rocco now for three as it hits the backboard and goes out of bounds oh Allison May [Applause] not gonna give it to McGinnis McGinnis gonna push right by Rocco she passes to Fontana black knee this Ball's swatted but we're covered by Garcia Garcia trying to make a pass to Allison may but goes out of bounds and it will be Groves basketball the 33 Charlotte piplowski he subbed in now for number 44 Carmen huertas Dragon bench now looking very proud as the Carmen comes off with a high of points this season seven points this game is number 14 Lindsay degrandle sinks a two-point shot for the Falcons football ski crosses it over and she makes a pass to Rocio Garcia Garcia makes a pass to Fontana black knee for three and it's no good number 13 Tyrese Alexander gives it to the Grendel but the Grendel shot is no good the Guinness pushing the ball [Applause] gives you a little stutter step there Rocio Garcia makes an amazing bounce pass to Allison may but her layup is no good but bablowski with for three shot is no good but he's rebounded by Lake Orion pavlowski's second shot no good Alexander now gonna push the ball on the court for the Falcons she loses it and McGinnis picks the ball up trying to take it for a layup and she is filed even though the layup is no good so she will get two free throws with two minutes here left in the fourth quarter Alana McGinnis Junior taking a shot and it's good [Applause] Dragons lead 63-27 second shot is good for McGinnis no Brown will bring the ball up she makes a pass to Rocco Rocco for three and it's off the rim and no good she tries to recover it's too late as the ball goes out of bounds would be Lake Orion ball Garcia passes it to poplowski the dragons start off the drive here as popovsky passes it to McGinnis McGinnis bat to papowski trying to look for a shot but there's nothing there black name extra shot fixed she passes it back to peplowski double crossover for poplowski passes it back to McGinnis and she makes a shot fake goes in for a layup but it's no good this is rebounded by Groves and Alexander heaves the ball half court to degrandle the Grendel takes us passes it back said Brown is brown takes a shot and it's no good but the ball will go out of bounds and it still will be Grove's ball [Music] Crandall passing the ball in as Alexander has it Alexander trying to kick the ball back to the grand old but the ball will go out of bounds and will be Lake Orion ball about a minute left to go in this game and now paplasky with a crossover she kicks it to Fontana blackney pavlowski trying to make a pivot back to May for three and the shot is no good for Allison May lackney trying to make a pass to Rocio Garcia but it's pass goes out of bounds Rochelle Garcia another student out from Lake Orion from Spain trying to make the same adjustment as Carmen playing basketball here in America [Applause] now the grand old guarded by meh the grand old trying to take the ball to her right but it is off of the foot of Allison May so it still will remain Groves basketball Rocco at the top of the key trying to take a three but it's blocked by McGinnis no peplowski makes a pass to McGinnis McGinnis to blackney making a shot Fontana black man for two great passing on ello's part absolutely they've made some Wicked passes finding the windows and making good passes that's what you want to see [Applause] Alexander back to Brown makes a pass to Rocco Brown for three no good off the bat off of the rim the fall will be on the floor a number 11 Allison may as now the gross Falcons will shoot one-on-one free throws and it's good [Applause] second free throw now for Brown and it's good this may takes a shot as time ticks down here in the fourth quarter but plowski gonna hold the ball [Applause] and that is it ladies and gentlemen for tonight's game between the Groves Falcons and the Lake Orion dragons final score 66-29 very hard fall game for both teams with the dragons pull away with the victory and that is it for tonight as I am your play-by-play commentator Tyler Ratliff joined by my color commentator Charlie Whittaker and that is it for tonight ladies and gentlemen have a good evening [Music]
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where's roland's review at he's connecting well what's up good people mark holmes here and as always i want to thank you all for watching commenting subscribing and being part of the joe boo sports report without you guys as well as you ladies you know that this literally and i mean literally does not work i hope everybody's having a great sunday hope all of your weekend has been great and i am happy to report that we finally found troy daniels or i didn't find him actually brian greene who's becoming my right hand man as well as the death of traffic cones uh found troy daniels and he had been out under the weather there for a couple of weeks and stuff but he is back and better than ever and before i get into everything let me go ahead and get this out the way oh big one oh [Music] [Laughter] oh man yeah i i got to make sure i make fun of philly at least once every show so let me without further ado say hello to my group of people i see of course james nook is already on the screen right there in front of the locker room what's up james how are you doing man what's going on man ain't nothing going on but the rent um how are you doing today i'm doing good we are exactly one month away from the first practice the cowboys uh a month from yesterday we'll be reporting the training camp and training camp opens one month from today i am excited it is coming very very fast and hard and heavy and i'm excited how about you oh i'm pumped up you're probably gonna hear about cowboys i'm i'm excited okay all right well yeah i had a little taste with them with a few of them today let me check in on into troy daniels troy what's up how are you doing man doing better mark thanks yeah we were worried about you because you know we pulled your name out and i was like okay we're gonna send him another tom landry one so that way he has the original piece and then you know he'll he'll have a a really good one to go with it so you got my mistake and you get the uh a really good one and speaking of the devil the death to the cones man himself what's up brian green thank you for or should i say mr investigator okay my private eye who found troy daniels what's up brian brian you're excited like you're muxed-mighted your mic's muted damn people don't think i'm drunk um so troy are you excited about the season oh i cannot wait uh usually tip kicks off around the 24th of july for us this is a special holiday for the state of utah and we i i'm just stoked i cannot wait to see pre-season and how things go well i'm thinking about trying to go to training camp you know last year i went to the pro football hall of fame and i found out that cowboy fans even though they like to say you know we got five rings they don't give a rat's ass about the guys that earned those five rings they just don't so i'm excited about that and i'm thinking about and this may need to be like a workation so i take mama with me and we spend a couple of days on vacation and then some other days i work anybody who's married out there understands exactly what i'm talking about that you can't just say honey i'm going to training camp oh you are yeah i'll be gone for a couple weeks yeah i'll be going yeah i'll be going for you know a week your training can oh you are and what about my vacation so we're gonna work it out so that way we both get everything we want jennifer oh jenny what's up jenny how are you doing let me see do i actually have boom i know roland's review is out there i don't know why she's not on the chat what's up stacy all right so so there i see troy there you go hey brian thanks for letting me know those things i i mean we're worried about you man yeah i've been i was out for two and a half weeks with covid that just goes to show you when we do our thing here whether it's you know tara or jane nook or mark if we don't see anybody we get worried that's when you worry yeah yeah you do you found me hey thanks for reaching out to me my friend yep no no problem troy thank i'm glad you're good so brian how are you doing he's won mark i i forget at this point well uh uh of course uh roger stahlbach and troy aikman are the ones he wants so yeah all the good [ __ ] troy hey he's got my he's got my namesake or i've got his namesake all right well i see good i was gonna say i think he was born like two years before i was hey mark just to let you know i brought down i don't know if you can see back here i got the uh the football gods oh they got the uh the picture of uh our buddies still so right there i forgot bring it down for our live streams that'll work um it's nice to know that we're not that you know that tony dorset has one that the cowboys have one there you got one i got one i was kind of like wow that's kind of cool i actually somebody had sent me a link because somebody had one on ebay that was 899 there was also another one that was four thousand dollars so if you want one look on ebay you may never see it any less than that which is still kind of pricey but then again after going to the autograph signing show that [ __ ] is getting to be sky high yeah i just bought a zeke one it's just a zeke they don't have a dac they're all sold out the zeke was like 200 right now it's just a zeke i have a troy up there on my ledge yeah so you know it's it's a real good item now you know it's it's it's it's a solid piece cool beans i see prime time phil what's up prime time your mux might is it yeah my mutes mited yeah okay your mic is perfect my actual mic is actually working right in the beginning of the show okay um what's up phil phil i actually hadn't gotten the email address that i'm supposed to send the video to you yeah i sent it to you i sent it to you through the normal email i sent you also through the website so that's why i was like okay i haven't had time to check [ __ ] okay i'm usually looking at cowboys mark 90 uh cowboys mark 94 gmail and i must have missed it i'll try to try and find it again and get it to you it's been kind of crazy trying to get everything together and all that so phil are you excited that we're only a month away from training camp yeah man closer and closer to football man it's just like i'm trying to keep my mind distracted but uh it can only go so far especially when there's no news to get excited about you know with free agents or any of that well you know we still are sitting here with 22.4 million dollars i still think that we have a hole at linebacker i'm kind of worried about being too thin there and i'm still wondering about the offensive line too um i still can't have some concerns about that one as well and think that we could hire a few veterans you know i i think um if i were the joneses family i would look at this and say i think i've got a really good team right now and looking at how many players have gone from the nfc to the afc and say you know there's an opportunity here that maybe you know we push the chips all in you know let's take that 22 million dollars you can go ahead and get some contracts and get some guys to make a push to try and make sure you got enough guys to get you over the top i agree mark it's very disappointing what's not happening uh i don't know about you guys i yesterday i happened to watch nfl network i was watching uh the replay of the dallas eagles game back in 2018 i want to say and that that was the one where the title at the end where i'm already caught it after five and and ran in in overtime i'm worried about our offense i'm really worried about starting off the season against that competition uh cd not being able to you know you beat a double team and who's going to step up that's what i'm worried about because gallop's not going to be around you know we could say that he's working on the bands and all that you know he's going to miss the first month of this season at the very least yeah he'll probably not put him on pup um i'm worried about that part of the offense i'm really worried about them shutting down cd and then what and now we're hearing that they're lowballing dalton schultz yeah so it's not a way to start a training camp i'm hoping that something happens and we get excited and they start and they sign anthony barr or they sign i'm all in on yeah my new pet peeve is uh the receiver out of houston that's a free agent um whom yeah help me out phil who am i thinking of um will fuller will fuller that's it thanks you know just let's get somebody in here that can stretch the field that's who i want i'm really worried about the beginning of the season there's no reason why that we need to start two three games behind the eagles yeah because the eagles got a cake schedule that they're gonna be able to roll and it'll be hard to catch up to him oh you know but then again we beat him a couple games that'll help out too well i tell you what um i got back about an hour and a half ago from the csa show in chantilly and we had a bunch of our legends i mean from randy white to bob lilly and um bill bates and things and you know most of you guys or younger guys and stuff don't care about the the cowboys in the back past if you're one of those ones that are saying well we got five rings then you need to at least educate yourself on the guys that earned those five rings and we're going to be losing you know the next few years a lot of those great ones you know we've already lost we know marion barber who was not that old to begin with you know we just lost him we lost rayfield right there's a bunch of the older players i know that charlie waters health is not great but these guys are getting old and these guys are the reason why we are america's team or especially with those first two two wins oh yeah you know and and they didn't play because of money because most of them had to have a job in the offseason because football didn't pay enough for you to live off of so they were true die hard dallas cowboys players teammates and they gave it all on the field trust me all on the field they're not the same as the players today some of these players today are just kind of like entitled spoiled they don't really care about the team as much as i am a 1099 employee okay i'm my own business and i'm just here to make the biggest paychecks that i can that love and that passion is not there with these i gotta say back then they were only making what about 10 grand yeah a year right i mean cliff harris literally got an ultimatum from um his off-season job this oil company they basically told him either you're gonna play football or you're gonna work for us and at that time he's like well i kind of had a couple of concussions and so i figured i'd better stick with the oil company you know because that'll be there a lot longer than football will which is crazy when you think about this now now i'm gonna tell you who i've got a new guy that i am truly rooting for for the cowboys and maybe this will help you know uh brian with your fear of uh michael gallop not being there i tell you what mr goldberg is tolbert i really like his personality i like the smile on his face he saw it was so cool because this is signed by him i'm going to be giving this away you know the upcoming shows i got all these plaques and stuff signed that we'll be giving away he saw that he was like man this is cool can i take a picture of it i was like dude of course you could i like i'll send you one so his his aide gave me the business card with the address to send him one so we're gonna make him one of those but maybe just maybe that there's some guys that end up stepping up on this team that um we're not thinking about and you know i had a person say something to me um from what they got now again this is just kind of hearsay but as far as amari cooper went and the cowboys trading him to the browns from what he had heard from people that he knew and again i don't i'm not guaranteeing that this is correct or not but when the browns were examining his ankle that they're basically saying that he's like one ankle injury away from just being shot and basically looked at him as damaged goods now you look at the history of amari cooper going back to the raiders he's always had issues with the ankle and you think that he had a clean out surgery you know january of last year dak had two surgeries where he literally you know completely decapitated i know it's not the right term his ankle dak was back before mari cooper mari cooper started on the pup list in training camp there could be something to that it was one of those things that the cowboys are kind of like okay you know his ankle is shot we're not going to offer you a whole lot take it or leave it and the cowboys kind of said you know what maybe we're better off taking it and just getting it i think it was the covet thing i think it was in that too there was a little riff there yeah um you know i think that's what it was i'm not upset that we let him go i'm just upset is okay what's gonna happen when somebody double team cd listen i don't care how good you are it's hard to beat a double team yeah that's that's the end of the you know so who's gonna step up i i love jalen tolbert i'm just worried that when just early on in the season until gallup gets in i just worry you know and i think our defense is going to be saving our bacon early on in the season um which is great but why give any ground if we don't have to like you said mark we got you know almost 23 million dollars ready to spend let's go yeah let's go get anthony barr let's go get a receiver that could stretch the field yeah i agree with you on that that's it now or or out of cd that's i mean not seeing anybody mark cooper and if we did just use them in the draft to trade up yeah i agree i agree yeah well that that whole thing just wasn't handled well but you know what the cure for all that would be the cure for all that would be being able to run the football that is going to be the key for the offensive season get a better job out there all right so who who's having a conversation with their wife is that david okay david let me hold up okay there we go all right i muted him um the key to all this is going to be being able to run the football if you can open up some lanes and run the football okay force teams into of course eight men in the box you can start play action and move in the pocket and deck around you can use that 12 personnel and i think they're going to have to use a lot of 12 personnel especially over the season to go ahead and get some things going if they can't run the football and are missing um michael gallup then you got some real problems yeah i'm yeah i mean that's great that we can you know i understand what you're saying mark we want to run the ball that's good but we why take a step back it's not like we're up against the cab we have plenty of money let's just use every tool we have if we have somebody that can stretch the field that opens up the run too that just makes everything easier i'm just right now i'm disappointed that we haven't done nothing because if there's one major injury god forbid that's the offensive line or linebacker he gets hurt let's see if he pulls the hammy what are we doing we're in trouble [ __ ] aren't we yeah so why are we waiting for that and then being in a position to where we have to overpay let's just go give some let's go get our holes filled now i'm shocked i'm really shocked that we haven't done it what's up lisa how you doing what's up lisa how are you doing uh see you're making too much sense though brian we're talking about catboy excited about the season but i'm just looking at the negative [ __ ] that could happen and you know what the eagles we know what their schedule starts out as they're gonna be four and one you can't help but be three and two four and one you cannot help it yeah so we need to hold ground early in the season so we got all this money what are we doing yeah what are we doing absolutely nothing got you a shout out to jon jones little super chat um i agree with you on that but again we got no control over that that's stephen jones you know catboy that's cat boy yeah catboy's right maybe nuts but maybe you know but but you know what maybe there's there's something to if the cowboys do get a slow start and have to try and you know play like they mean it to get a run maybe that they'll be battle tested trying to get into the playoffs and you know have some momentum yeah i mean i just don't it's yeah we're too good a team to take a back seat to anybody in the nfc east uh i don't care what the eagles are talking if we were you know what i mean it's just like why even go down that road let's go get a couple pieces and let's be ready to roll i'd be more concerned about the tight end positions i think yeah they're like low balling dalton schultz yeah i think ferguson's gonna be good for us i do too of schultz and ferguson you know can you try some mckeon can you bring her sprinkle sprinkle yeah so i mean the other guys you have are just undrafted guys and their head there's nobody that's where i'm more concerned with because in the wide receiver you have a lot of people in the room that have potential i mean that's a terrible word to use yeah um but when you look at it i mean that's how a lot of them are when you get past the first three you know gallup james washington city lamb you know what do you got you got jalen corbett what you think you're definitely gonna have a good rookie year because who's he taking you know he's got to get the numbers the opportunities in there mm-hmm sami for hoco we're not really throwing our stuff in there but you know you're we're hoping you know noah brown has been within this offense you have tj basher that has been having a good bank that's the guy that's my guy drummond is getting a lot of like as well too so i mean there are guys there but again not like you're saying where you can feel reliable to these guys i'm more again concerned once schultz if schultz was to do anything or if you know when mcewing goes down what's what's after that like that's my that is my concern i just worry phil at the beginning yeah let's just look at at the beginning of the year okay we're playing tampa yeah and let's get some yeah and they're double and cd what are we going to do you know i mean we're going to run the ball okay they're going to stack the box so we're relying on a rookie and who else you know i mean it's it's very scary that we can't do what we need to do now if we got somebody to stretch the field then it's a game changer that's yeah i agree too but it's also up to kellen moore to change the game plan now because yeah he's gotta be what he has to do because now we can't do it like last year where we're in a sling out shootout with tom brady this year it's got to be more it's going to be more of a slugfish bit on the defense as we soak up some of this time with what everybody's saying the running game you know let's not forget that we're going to go into the season as far as we know right now with no injury we're going with a rookie left guard we all have the return you know we all have the greatest vision for what he's going to be he's a rookie left guard okay so i feel better about his lowest compared to connor williams yeah you know but you're going to see that up close and personal phil yeah i'm sure connor williams is going to be the talk of the town in miami but we all know what he's about he's going to be holding and pulling and grabbing and he's going to be blown up in the backfield so i said it last night i was telling i told a couple of buddies a man i said man i'm telling y'all you know we start off with we started with jumping in cincinnati i told them i said man y'all talking about all this stuff you know these personal games of the year the one thing that i'm worried about is experience you know especially you know playing against tom brady and yeah joe girl that's the one thing i'm worried about is the experience yeah it's good to have all this youth but when you come to tom brady he needs a little bit of savviness agreed on that one yeah unfortunately you need a whole team that's veterans when you're doing that though i mean everybody's saying that we want to get to tom brady tom brady doesn't take sacks he just don't unless you're getting it through the a-gap which is that's that's he can't stand pressure in his face knock on wood hopefully you know we we can get that but if we're not getting through the a-gap you're not getting a tom brady because he will get rid of the ball there's no doubt about that you got to have a good pass rush to to get to him there's no way and i'm not trying to like rain on anybody's parade i'm excited i think we're going to be good but if you're asking me what my concerns are let's be realistic here our first four teams that we play are really really good yeah so when he gets a little easier hopefully we go to 12 personnel do you have faith that uh our offensive coordinator is going to do that he did he did the first half of the season no problem you know we can only hope i'm going to be at mark's one day and we'll be live streaming and i'm going to be probably throwing a like a few f-bombs i can just see it yeah you wouldn't be the first one that's dropping those in there i know oh yeah um i'm gonna take them all the time yeah you know i yeah you're not live streaming though you don't know there you go yeah i wonder if maybe we do play second fiddle to philadelphia for the first part of the season because they're the worst part of their season doesn't happen until the back half yeah that's gonna be the narrative troy that's gonna be a narrative it's gonna be uh well look at the eagles they're out they're you know there are two and then when they hit the back half because they're going to have to play tampa too i don't i believe right no they don't stay in oh no i'll get to that let's go get we'll play all the first place teams yeah hey stacy how are you doing [Music] okay so i want to play something real quick in here um stewart had you know we went down to stewart's house and i now have a new family and that's the morrison family i think i've been adopted and things and we fulfilled one of two wishes that stewart had in his passing today like i said i was at the csa show i met a bunch of great fans and stuff and i've got to make make a point of making sure that i carry those little footballs around with me because whenever anybody comes up to me and says hey i watch the show or i know you i want to give them a football and say thank you we did get micah parsons signature on this football which is actually a micah parsons nfl football um they were kind of hurrying with micah parsons micah parsons had so many people in line there that he was basically just kind of like it was like cattle just being you know going to slaughterhouse and stuff so they're pushing people through but i did the best that i could to deliver the super bowl message for stewart and i want to show you guys that right now how are you doing i have actually a message michael a good friend of mine stuart the biggest cowboys fan in the world gave me this he passed away two weeks ago we went down there we fixed his mom's house his second request dying wise the cowboys won the super bowl so i'm delivering that message to you okay we took care of mama's house i need you guys to win number six for us so he told me to hold on to this he signed it a couple years for him there we go a year ago all right i want to see that 50 000 necklace that you got too man all right we're out okay okay so it was kind of rushed through there but i think i at least got the essence of the message there on it what did he say at all he just kind of smiled and said okay he's crazy yeah why can't we give the people the time that they deserve well i tell you what randy here's what was cool randy white this is a true story david wiley and i you know david was there with me i went into another line right and david wildly was in the same spot with me you know with um randy white i got through george teague's line talked to george teague and everything else he loved the prince like man i want one of those and got his address to go ahead and make him want to send him he's a man oh man you know because i got the picture of him literally shoving teo off the star i go through that whole line and it doesn't look like david wiley has moved at all randy white you could have brought a six pack of beer sat down next to randy white drank three of them he would have drank the other three and you know it wouldn't have taken any more time than what he was doing he spent so much time with people it was a beautiful beautiful thing randy white is the best i met him early 90s mark yes ma'am that's the difference between old school food that's why i'm like you i like the old school 100 i met randy back in early 90s i think it was 92 or 93 when i went down and my god was he he is the epitome if you i mean he was nasty it was the epitome of a dallas cowboy football player he is nasty even to this day if you see him well mark saw him today he could tell no you know what he is he's still no he's actually a really nice guy now he's nasty as he is he's got that edge oh yeah he has i mean in a good way he was so gracious to me and my brother and um he's just a nasty football player he just he has that edge wherever he goes you know he's a dallas cowboy for life he's still built pretty well yeah the thing is he don't walk too great but the thing i was talking with troy uh before the show is you know unfortunately the heroes that i grew up watching um so many of the dallas cowboys greats and things they're getting old and just like losing rayfield right losing uh marion barber you know we're going to be losing a lot of these legend cowboy players over the next you know few years five years or so like that if you get a chance to one look up some look at some of these highlights and look at what football really was back in the day and how violent it really was and what these guys sacrificed get a chance to get to know these guys because i'm telling you football would not be football without them and every chance that i get to see some of the old guys and you know i've it's not that i don't have randy white's um autograph because i've got andy wright's autograph probably five or six times it's just one of those things that i want to see them every opportunity that i can because i don't know how many more opportunities i'm gonna have mark yes ma'am could you let us know um maybe you know as much ahead of time as possible when these shows are coming up so maybe some of us can try to attend them as well sure i've been talking about this one for a couple of weeks now that's what's going on but i i will make sure i will make sure that i let everybody know you know um that basically there's one in april and then there's one in june every year with csa show they have one in october but you don't get that many actual players usually the one in april is the one that you get mostly the the the now players the one this one ends up being more of the um uh you know older players you know we had demarcus where was their day demarcus ware was great demarcus ware literally i hadn't even pulled jobu out he saw joe boo in the car he's like tell me about the doll okay so we had to pull out joey i haven't gotten that video and stuff done yet but you know usually these older players they're out of the limelight they like the attention that they have because you know once the lights stop playing once you're out most fans just don't really care about who you are and that's a sad thing because these guys are giving literally everything to this sport um you know uh yeah without you know generational wealth yeah yeah these guys played for the i mean early on they had the off-season jobs yeah so mark told us i had no clue that they had to have see you know jobs in the offseason give me an example give you example um concrete charlie chuck mcnair he wasn't nicknamed concrete charlie because he hit people in great business right in the off-season he's pouring concrete okay now he did hit you like a concrete truck but that was the kind of thing that you ended up having that these guys had jobs in the off season because football was not paying you that much money that's that's the crazy thing yeah we need yeah we need to respect guys like charlie waters uh randy white is the ultimate cowboy yeah as far as i'm concerned looking back he's the ultimate cowboy um bob lilly was there too oh i have bob lilly's autograph on mini helmet thank god but mark how was charlie waters how did i mean charlie waters okay see charlie waters the last time i saw him was probably about five years ago and at five years ago you could tell that he was not doing well he was the presenter for cliff harris but he wasn't actually there and i remember cliff harris talking about how you know charlie's not you know health was not good and that's where from seeing bill bates probably about four years ago when they had a celebrity golf tournament against washington football players and stuff and seeing him now in that four years he looks like he's really aged quite a bit and that's where i was like whoa and that's where you start realizing you know the whole thing with rayfield right rayfield wright seemed like yeah we thought we oh rayfield right you know seems sharp was attacked you know and and here it was you know he's gone and so that's where you got to understand that life is truly precious um shout out to you linda what's up i appreciate the kind words yes there is there is one comment in the uh in the comment section i wanted to address uh those carolina cowboys saying tampa bay is our 17th or extra game no the extra game is against an afc team usually the bengals yep this year it's the bengals yeah but i think the bengals gonna come back down to earth i think they will too i i think that's one you know if you look at teams that lose the super bowl like that and expect to have any longevity as far as being good that's where it all starts i mean that's that's that's where it starts hey vader how are you doing today tyler smith is going to be let's just let's be honest well wb pans it out pretty well i mean if he don't then we're in trouble that's just that's just the bottom line i think you'll be good but here's the thing that still that still mystifies me is it you know you think about the eagles didn't have a mini camp at all and we might as well not we only had one practice and then we went out to go you know shoot some golf top golf but you know now there's only 14 padded practices there's really not a whole lot of time to teach and get guys up to speed exactly you know we used to have like six weeks of you know of training camp two a days and everything else to educate you and teach you right now it's just kind of like okay here we go let's play the season one little soft tissue issue uh injury and you're basically missing most of training camp these days pretty much yeah you're gonna be on the side with the bands and hopefully learning a playbook let's just hope that our rookies and our young players are on it now and they stay healthy if that's the case then i think you know yeah that we're going to be fine but god forbid like because tolbert's been marred with your soft tissue injuries already i'm just worried about our offense early on that's all i just am because we're counting on our running game with a rookie left card you know what i mean so it's like i understand brian's concern i mean you had last year a really good looking offense and then look what they did right and now you don't have a really great looking offense unless you're thinking that they're going to do worse you know but and i'm scared looking at i was just looking at the highlights like i said that that the 2018 game against the eagles that went to overtime that see uh that mario cooper caught that tip ball you know that the attack through for a touchdown to win it you oh amari he caught like three touchdowns that game maury he runs great routes it's a lot to say okay cd you're number one nah you know you gotta write you know who's the bro brian don't show you you don't you don't have much faith in cd do you remember how mcgovern was playing and we couldn't run the ball he couldn't get to the second level at all switched over he couldn't at all and you actually switched over to connor williams and you could kind of run the ball a little bit a little in between the penalties a little bit more you're like okay we can open up the playbook a little bit more i think that's what you get with tyler smith you get a better run block i hope you're right you know obviously it's the stuff in the past passing game but i i'm not i'm not i'm not as concerned about that spot as i am more about his that's the spot right next to him and that's tyrone smith i mean that right there is the more god for a bit he goes down right phil i mean god forbid then what mark oh okay let's go let's go or let's go you know they're gonna let's go ahead and just cue up the music and do the musical chairs you know yeah i'm just annoyed that our franchise has put us into position to have to be healthy we know that this game allows us not to be healthy and that's just the way it is you're going full speed again you know 300 pound men you're not going to stay healthy so why are we so thin on the old line why are we saying linebacker yeah like in yeah exactly linebacker i was trying to get you to think there's a glaring difference between the starters and the backups but in a lot of the spots there aren't and that's where we're getting the depth now you know i'm not saying it's in every single position obviously wide receiver you know it kind of drops you know there you don't know what you have behind it tied in as well you got quarterback i think that's that is a big one you know between your starter and your in your backup but i feel better about the defensive line compared to okay oh osa is going to go out but neville gallagher comes in and oh uh lawrence goes out but you know dante fowler comes in he goes okay you know sam williams goes out but you got doors aren't far then because i feel like i just hope next week that we're talking about anthony barr or somebody somebody i'm not even saying anthony bart we need another linebacker in there we need a receiver of some sort you can't tell me that we're not going to sign another receiver you can't tell me that well they're just waiting for the people to start getting cut yeah that's what they're doing that's that that's what they'll do and they will be bargaining basement guys then you gotta learn the playbook and then you got to get on the page with that but you're hoping that guy that you bring in can do all that very quickly because he's right name i hope you're right i hope you're right phil well as far as anthony barr goes i think the cowboys are playing like a game of chicken because i think anthony barr wants to be here they want him here and they're hoping that the longer they wait then maybe he'll take a deal less than that 10 million dollars that he was looking for you know is is barra a free agent then or yeah he is yeah and he's not signed with anybody and you haven't heard anybody with interest you know minnesota didn't offer him another contract um now we'll see so far now wasn't going to talk one time about um dion jones i wanted to join well not the cowboys but of course the talking heads were i mean anytime anybody's a free agent or you know who's out there of course they're they're looked at as oh the cowboys should sign this guy or that guy why you know i agree with you on that one yeah i agree that would be the dumbest [ __ ] to ever do [Music] oh yeah we agree you definitely agree what's up how you doing buddy well i'm i'm gonna say i believe that the cap cowboys offensive line is going to be better than it was last year all right that he's great that connor wouldn't he couldn't bring it off yeah he was already getting hit he had to make moves in the backfield right that's right tyler smith got that nasty to him yeah he's definitely a truck right yeah he's going to bring that attitude that are offered behind his mission yeah i think my main we're not going to beat your ass every game everything's my main issue trucker is i'm just worried why are we allowing other teams to close the gap on us when i think we are far and above better than the eagles washington and the giants so why not go out and get just a couple pieces we don't have to tap into the whole 23 million under the cap and let's just get a couple spots just let us all take a sigh of relief a big breath saying okay we got a receiver that just stretched the field we have an extra linebacker why why are we going in like holding our breath that's all how much because that's what we do yeah i don't know if troy but i think that's a perfect fit i think anything i think he would be fuller yeah what's he what's he wanting oh no no no no no but either so do we get rid of him no yeah i mean michael gallop also brings more than just a down filter yeah i hear you i know that but i'm a hair trucker why go do it again if it was me and if it was in terrell and if it was jay nook we would all want uh the guy out of seattle but that's not gonna happen so yeah yeah that definitely is not gonna happen we're not trading yeah we're not trading for uh dk metcalf we're lowering our expectation and what would be good we need right now we need a guy who could stretch the field just have fuller run the nine route just have him run the nine round and that's going to open up [Music] i do hear you but he was always expected to be the number one guy where he was he won't be now so what are we hearing the plan is and that's what i'm saying why go get willfully when we got jaylee tober you got to watch the video think of cd lamb's rookie year boom and insert tolbert that's what you do there you go right i'm so i'm hoping that works not a bad year exactly and that's where you're going to get you're going to have your drops you're going to have your things where he messes up into play but you're going to have a really good year because who is going to take the reps from him you know james washington is going to surprise you i think james washington i think is going to be the one that is going to surprise you right now has been practiced a bit in the last month well but here's the thing you got you've got another month before training camp starts and how much real practicing did we do that's when you add one more guy just because of injury i don't think that there's a difference i'd rather i'd rather wait where is barry because you know there's going to be a good batch that's going to get cut barry barry you got your hand raised um unmute your mic though barry unmute your mic so we can get you we'll pull her off well anybody could pull hamstring these days because nobody really practices anymore cooper was the biggest uh dancing guy hamstring an ankle yeah i'm just trying to look for an edge and what would fit our team whether it's will fuller or a name that i don't know that's fine i don't care if it's well fuller i think another thing we need to look out for is uh all right i'm all on board with vasher from what everything i'm hearing and from what phil's saying this dude has a ceiling that i'm excited about so me it may be faster outreach like that's our red zone that's a red zone just off of him being on the field linda who are we gonna get with all the cap space probably nobody knowing catboy i think he's thinking that uh he gives the pocket that extra change himself um hopefully we'll end up getting some people but i think they're going to wait until training camps start opening and they start releasing guys and stuff and start picking up guys on the cheap and see who they can yeah yeah that's the bottom line is they want to bring in guys cheap yeah but also they also got some pretty good freaks too i think they got a lot of good undrafted free agents period i think but they need time i mean you got a sender a center there and alex lindstrom that i really honestly think could on in the next year or so could beat out those two at center so i mean you got a good safety and bell mark this belt yeah so i mean you guys saw this like i'm back there if you're there so it's like yeah they've been doing really good on the undrafted part i think what may have helped was the fact that they didn't have any late draft picks so they were already getting aware of what they needed to do and was already game planning like really really early yeah well we'll have to wait and see on that one how it works out you know they may have their eyes on some guys that they think are you know we don't need to go out and get anybody else because you know maybe tj basher is with that six foot six is a beast and they figure that he's gonna be a weapon you know people aren't stars until they become stars and they may believe that we've got some guys that can break out you know we could go back to last year's defense and say we need to go out and sign a whole lot of guys and stuff because we say our defensive line sucks our safeties suck we were looking and saying we only had donovan wilson but then all of a sudden j-ron curse comes around and plays really really well you get a rookie and micah parsons who ends up being you know everything you want in a ham sandwich and you know you have a cornerback in the second year take a major step forward so who's to say we don't have some of those guys right now that might not do some of that same stuff and they're seeing them in the um in the gun right now ready to fire yes yeah i saw an article where they're comparing or they're saying it's going to be either tj basher or simi falco with that last one but uh another person i don't think he's the one i think when he became one i think that's what shirt up our savings i think he'll be better this year because he's not coming off of a major injury and he understands the defense more so i definitely agree with you on that one correct yeah i think a positive is our safety position when we're talking about donovan wilson as being an extra guy right yeah we're good we have a luxury right now at safety in comparison to where we were that's the question where's your link where's your weak link there i think your guy that just gets injured like you were saying it's just everything looks pretty solid there it's nice to see compared to last couple years it you know a little worrisome in the cornerback position because you got obviously joseph that needs to grow up you know you don't you don't know what you have you know much behind them i always say everybody we're good everybody's on the uh yeah anthony brown what happens with him oh everybody he didn't do nothing wrong and i think him seeing that defeat that the people he was hanging out with didn't have his best i mean hopefully he learned i mean pacquiao took a while to learn so oh lord did he take him time to learn it he took it longer i think he's still learning people always talked about being being immature that actually j-ron kurtz was actually calling a lot of it last year because you know that actually you'd rather have that where you can have micah focusing in on getting after the quarterback's ass yeah normally you say it's a linebacker but in this case i think you're right i think it's j-ron you know what i think it would be an amazing thing that if you could if you were allowed to stick a micah parsons jersey on sam williams and just let the defense offense try to figure out which one is the real micah you know double vision there yeah awesome strategy they do look a lot alike okay they really do look a lot like but um not only they look like if you look at their skill set their skill set is almost i'm saying almost yeah there's a lot of similarities there but yeah obviously just a ridiculous beast gonna be an interesting season people better open their life sam williams i would say buckle up because i think we're going to be good at ultimately i think early on it could be like we're going to hear all the pundits you're talking their [ __ ] saying uh the eagles eagles but just look at the schedule that's how it all normally pans out we have a tough schedule if we can hold our own and go 500 in the first four or five games i think it looks good in the second half the defensive line i think that's gonna be it like that if if the defensive line can do their thing right off the bat boom everything else kind of will hopefully fall in place the the corners get their interceptions the offense gets their extra possessions so it's just i think it that's the key right there yeah i think that in our offensive line being able to fight defense isn't good phil we're in trouble there's no question we're going to have to hang with philadelphia the best we can yeah they got such an easy schedule early on and anyway i got a question do you guys think that that williams is going to stay at the end or do you think they might push him if he's an outside linebacker he'd be a von miller type where he just you know he's just rushing the passer from a wider position so i think he can jump back and forth he doesn't have to look at it i think hold on i was going to say that i don't think he has the ability to stop the run as a outside linebacker would need to you know to hold that outside so his strength is what is probably going to be his weakness in his first year is that he's you know i've been watching a lot of film to do this next video and man trust me that's that's his problem is that you know am i off yeah but yeah yeah so i think that's going to be the thing if you'll just probably have them that first year just strictly you know go get go get the quarterback man go stick them yeah i don't know i think um watching what i've seen of them and playing that defensive end outside live back in high school and they talk a little bit i played in college i could see him being an outside linebacker just because he you when you stand him up his eyes are better you actually get to see the fact you can see the background you can read the you read the ball a lot easier than half the hand in the dirt so do you trust him to go and and cover a wide receiver or a tight end i mean because he's going to need to do that if he's out there well we didn't expect michael parks to do it he can cover he's got the speed to be able to do it with that four four six but now keep in mind that the cowboys run that hybrid four three three four defense where sometimes you know randy gregory's hand was in the dirt sometimes randy gregor was coming you know standing up so you know he will have to play basically outside linebacker some of this defense as well i mean randy gregory when he did it was he covering no he went out to fractures few times yeah but we're talking about like is he going to be in that sole position but yeah i think yes you're right then if you're saying will he play that position yes i think he'll play that position because this is this man this is uh dan quinn he could be playing the safety position all you know right he's going to mix that [ __ ] up and give you some different looks so i was going to say do you think they put him into more of a uh more of that defensive end position or do you think he mixes it up 50 50. i would love to see i would love to see micah gabriel i think you leave micah as the all over the place guy i think if you lock him in at the end i think that limits him and okay in a overall defensive scheme type of deal i think you know if you're a quarterback and you don't know what yeah micah could be lining up over the center right that doesn't mean that's where he's going to come from you know what i mean he could drop it yeah he could he could stun it yeah another job um so let's just hope that they keep him as the wild card type of guy yeah i don't want to line him up you know 30 times at the end because i was just saying keep it pretty close to the line where it wherever you know whether it's linebacker or roving yeah i don't want to see him 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage playing that yeah i i yeah absolutely i i'd love unless he's getting a running start to the quarterback then i'm good right so you know what i'd love to see teams do is take their you know when they're running back has to block a person coming up a gap have to have micah just hang back just a little bit longer and then rush the gap right there's nobody else left and he has i never understood why everybody just you know rushed the quarterback sometimes it's good to take a a one one thousand two one thousand then you know what i mean and then go yeah yeah honestly micah parsons what you want is if you were to be in a full-time defensive end then the teams know okay we got to leave the running back in to chip out or we got to leave an extra tight end over there and we can neutralize them you want teams to have to worry about where is micah you know you want that quarterback to come to the line of scrimmage and say is he a defensive end is the outside of d law or is he on the other side over here coming or is he in the a gap you know coming through or is he just cheating to the line and then going off the covers you want that quarterback to have as many unknowns and have to think about as much as possible on there yeah the more math that he's got to compute in his head before he snaps the ball is what you want dan barkley dude get the [ __ ] out of here trade back for baker come on he's always come on man just get rid of this [ __ ] file i'm sorry excuse my language but come on yeah exactly if i don't he's a clown what's up eagles of america i mean come on man it's a top 10 qb if you don't like it move on uh that's probably an eagle fan hoping that we would do something like that go get them yeah i'm sorry i gotta calm down i gotta calm down too much time out in the sun in the pool today oh man okay well i spent my time at the chantilly show they got one they got a couple good players listen we all know that yeah we all know that when cbs fox or whoever you know that dan roloff is just telling us that the eagles are going to win a division they ain't win the band division we know that we know that now um i can see our cowboys going undefeated again in the division unless we've locked up the division and we play washington and we rest everybody we're going five and one in in the uh division i'm telling you now and we'll lose that philly unfortunately it's going to be that's gonna all right well let's get in our final thoughts here i've actually got to leave early in the morning so i've got some work i need to do in the workshop um i got to get jalen tolbert's uh sign in the works here because he wants one of these i'm excited his print and stuff in place so give everybody give me your final thoughts and let me say before i go any further that i'm happy that troy daniels is back because we were so worried about you you know come on dude dude you know it out you gotta at least let let joe boo sports sports to know that you're still alive okay i mean come on man don't don't have us say you're worried like that text me one more time and i'll store it in my phone for you okay all right mark was telling me he was calling you i'm like on the right number i mean seriously where is my my phone must be inside the house but seriously you know i guess that's the only number i've ever called that's utah okay [Laughter] because at first i was like the only number you call in utah right right that's the only one that i've ever called i bet maybe the first and only one that i've ever called in utah so yeah yeah we're about to send thomas garrett over there man hey that works for me everybody in this room who knows your neighbor you know your neighbor austin schwartz says cowboys are losing to the eagles i'm tired of listening to the garbage you talk there you go buddy um he's testing you yeah vado what's up man how you doing i'm sorry bitto i didn't get that one we need when it's camp camp is one month from today yeah mars okay well i i'm working on it i'm working on it now there's no guarantees but i'm working on it come on now as soon as mark starts talking about a month yeah well but see here's here's let's see here's the thing about about training camp though i'm guaranteeing but i'm gonna try to make it here's the thing about training camp though and they haven't released the actual schedule for it because you know where it's going to be well no you know where it's going to be it's going to be an oxnard but here's the thing though because it's not like it used to be where it was two a days every day you know and then a game you know now they don't practice more than four days in a row and so sometimes they get the weekends off and all that stuff so you know you go ahead and say oh you know we're gonna go you know these three days and it might be one practice you know what i mean so you've got to know for sure you know you don't want to be there and oh we're going to be practicing with the chargers and we're going to be in la and now you got tickets to stay in oxnard so it's kind of dicey until you know exactly what the schedules are and they haven't released that just yet and of course the longer you wait the more the plane tickets cost and so on but i'm trying to work it out um to go out for a couple of days oh no it's it's we're not taking an rv there okay la's about 2 600 miles from me so i mean that would be like well i don't know but then again brian um there's plenty of cones on the way you interested in driving eagle if you want cones to hit it's uh cone season in utah oh man it's cone hunting season brian hey mark don't worry bro i know he's like [ __ ] you mark okay no seriously though um i will go to war for my man brian brian he's got a special place in my heart after what we went through getting down the road and back up man that was crazy it's not easy driving straight through from virginia to texas that's not in an rv that kind of every time a truck goes by it kind of trusts me guys trust me it's not that easy now let's go ahead and get ourselves a nice suv now that might be a different story looking down the road right now i was telling mark i said you know after i left mark's house and i came home and i was driving my suv back to my house it was like it was like driving a little four-cylinder yeah in and out of lanes yeah yeah like driving a 33-foot rv with through the mountains of tennessee yeah we're coming down the hill and there's a guardrail on the left-hand side and the cones they were doing road construction we're literally a foot inside the you know the dotted line i mean we're talking very little margin of error and uh i was just worried about mark and his having not to pay the guy who he got the rv from all the damage on the left-hand side i'm like i'll hit i'll hit some cones and mark's like uh here comes a cone i'm like yeah i'm gonna hit it going i'm at least one gun yeah run that crap over you're fine yeah there you go johnny boy know your history yeah let's see you know what we need is we need to get trucker's life the next time rucker's life is my man's usually we get him you know what we'll get him to be our chauffeur yeah he can hitchhike him you know he's used to driving the big rigs and stuff man i didn't jumped it was a beautiful experience that it was i hope everybody enjoyed what you saw i swear my ass off helping out still working his family i'm glad i have to graduate going forward me and mark are boys so i will be at his house then we're gonna live stream and we're gonna go to dallas yeah randy i don't know i don't see randy in here but we're gonna get to dallas for a game yeah and we're going to stop and see vato yep it's all gonna be good and we're gonna stop off in memphis i'm excuse me in uh nashville and see thomas garrett and slap the titans fans it's all gonna be good and we might take the long route and go through carolina and see uh uh roland's review too there but um there you go we love you stacy mark maybe next time when the cowboys play the raiders in vegas you can swing by me too there you go i got a whole lot of swinging by come on now we were i was like surfing the internet i'm trying to find troy daniels i'm like yeah i hope god forbid something didn't happen yeah you can't do it brother i won't believe me now that now that i'm going to have mark's uh number i can text whenever you're a fan of everybody in this room is family exactly concerned don't do that to us again troy there you go all right stacy you got my promise all right somewhere i love weed i saw ricky williams there and i was uh i didn't get that close to him because i didn't buy a ticket and stuff but i did it'll be in a video clip i just gotta get it uploaded but i said for my buddy i love weed wants to hang out with you and pass the duchy because we know my man will want to do that yeah but yeah i did my job that's all i could say mark oh you definitely just didn't hey miss jackie sent me a text and said it's 107 today you would be [Music] yeah and we definitely will do that one all right so we're gonna get ready to get out of here for today and um tomorrow night what we'll do is like i said i got all these prints and stuff done and autographed and we're going to start giving those things away i got the market square i got george george teague i got jalen tolbert over here signature i got bill bates um i'll probably have to save this one right here this one's micah parsons this one of course is the uh special football here that cost me a boatload of money and stuff but we'll be definitely giving that one away as well at some point so michael is coming in now you're kind of late to the show there buddy um yeah and barry barry kept raising his hand barry did you ever speak i kept saying unbeat your mike barry barry where are you barry and here's cowboys we're into this show and everybody's coming in now all right this is crazy but all right guys you guys have a good one all right your turn to norman oklahoma all right well we are going to do it live and we're going to end this live and i will see you guys later all right mark everybody take care mark thank you take care we'll do it live do it live i'll write it and we'll do it live um that's tomorrow and that is
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The diamond Cheddar- matuku
welcome to the home of poetry it has been brought to you under the courtesy of Peter Michiko the world of struggle in the world we live the life of knees tears blood no laughter I'll stay brave kill to the brave tough breath they laugh with earth no soothe no surrender no Ruth I'll stay brave kill to the brave they say I ain't thought in life in brief I believe in tears there's brighter day I'll stay brave til to the grave below to snare we ale wheat meat we trail sell as we conquer to re little I'll stay brave til to the grave stones ever they throw against my will I know the wankers prevail men I'll stay brave til to the grave
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Data structure and their types||latest updated 2018||Dr. Mohd Zuber
I'm dr. Mohammed aware and you are watching my youtube channel sorry events today we are discussing a very important topic data structure and their types first of I will be like to before explaining a data structure I will be like to Vitus data data is our lighting bytes and host plural form is datum data at the data there are many types like 0 to 9 data a to site alphabet data a special character does like I dollar sign like a a direct sign and sign it's also data when data process brigetta information like we have a five dollar if we get five and dollar we get a information $5 I will be like to one and it's showing a one derivation when I data process we get information information process we get knowledge and knowledge process we get experience and experience process we get wisdom this is derivation of data process data also two types single data and group of data single data means suppose in our classroom one student name roll number age address it is a single data and we can talk all student name all student role number it is a group of data now we can talk data structures you understand what is data now we can data structures and their types when I store group of data when I stall group of data for some particular organization like a mathematical model like a logical model that is called data structures data structure divide two bytes linear data structure known linear data structure in linear data structure first array it's a types linked list third one is a stack pot one is Q a non linear data structure first three second one is graph this is type of data structures in this video I am shortly explain all types of data structure first we are starting in array what is array a is a similar group of data type error is a similar group of data type like in our classroom is student name and student role number student name and role number not same data type name character data type and roll number integers data type but array support similar group of data type understand like student roll number example only student roll number only student name it's a air a student roll number array also three forms one dimensional two dimensional and three dimensional array is active on one dimension to dimension and tied one is my greater image Multi die menschen 1-dimensional means air a name and size size means dimension to dimension array name size and size to dimension multi dimension array name sighs sighs sighs multi dimension generally in data structure using one dimension array one dimension array two dimension error supports like matrix form like a row and columns row and columns and multi-dimensional dimension array there are multi size for example suppose array name roll number and size five one two three four and five era name roll number size five roll number one roll number two roll number three the roll number four the roll number five it's an example of one dimension the roll number suppose twenty roll number one roll number two roll number three the roll number 20 and Aaron F roll number roll number this is an example of array now we are talked to Ling list length list Ling lists also linear data structure in Ling list that I saw in note form and everynight have a two-part every not have a topic first byte is in for part second part is address part and every address part link another note address self suppose we have five note first second third fourth fifth and every know I'd have to part one in poppet in info pallet we are a store in a store our data and second one is a dress fight suppose VI start is type value kind right sort to this address is that value hundred this address so this is a address cell address cell address and this is to this cell address this not cell address 200 and this 300 this noid cell address 300 for this no it's tell 400 but this 500 this 500 but we are taking only 5 note toll plazas no value only 5 AI taken 5 nodes we are taken 5 note the last node address value null understand and every every address value link another cell address value that is called linked list linked list a linked list every list linked with the help of address this is linked list now we are and we are showing a stack linked list also to type single English and double lift list but we are discussing for single English and doubling list for next videos now we are we are discussing is Tech now we are discussing is that it's take also linear data structures is tech-heavy one open top means a stack have top of stack and this top of stack insert I Delta and also delete agenda understand suppose we are inside a Delta 1 inside data inside data inside that inside it first inside theta and last inside theta now we are inside theta now deleted last data first till it means last in first out its network last in first out last in first out and I stack stack instead in such insertion and deletion top of the stack now way I talk q now way I talk Q in q1n open and another and also often bun and insider Delta another a delete our data mean in Q both and open so suppose we are inside data this this this this and deleted it means Q work last means first in first out first in first out this is a Q and we are we can insert a data this and we can say Rhea Rhea of Q and we are we can delete our data we can say front of cube o q now we can discuss a tree as you know tree is a nonlinear data structure tree is a nonlinear data structure means a tree nonlinear data structure is a notice acquaints nota sequence tree data store in note form means three data store in Noyd or trade data straw in Noyd form and first note suppose we have a tree suppose first knot is a first node is a root node root node and his sub note is a child noid understand we are storing information in Noyd root night tonight we are storing information every tree have a different level every tree have a different level suppose in this node made a sub sub tree this is level 1 this is level 2 because now this is root node and this is root node sub not called a child not understand suppose this node have two child not so now this is level theory means this note is wrote note now this is until now this will rue it this node meta root node and this mayor this noid child not under say means root tree have a different level main node is a root node and whose sub node is a child node this is a tree now we I discuss graph now we are discuss a graph and we are discussing discussing the topic of graph graph also nonlinear data structure because they are not maintain a linearity not maintain of sequency so we can say graph also nonlinear data structures when our data is taut when our data is trying to route and follow when our data when our data is stored in wood form and follow and follow his route and follow his route that is called graph means suppose we are store data in root now we are follow root now be follow root that is called graph suppose we have three cities Bhopal Indo Jabalpur and we can follow root bapak to endure endure to Japan pose that is called wrote if graph have directed means you are through it your edges suppose your edges is directed to that is called directed graph but if you have your engine is not directing you are because when you are your edges have no direction so that is called undirected graph under style means in in graph we can say this root is a vertex and this root its direction these are edges big answer in graph in graph to vertex to vertex distance to vertex distance we can say this this distance is called edges suppose you have two three cities means you have TV cities means 3 by 2 X + 3 vertex distance his edges and three informations three data is our vertex understand graph of different type directed and undirected if you have in edges have a direction so you can say this is directed graph if edges nor directions this is undirected graph understand and vertex is mandro noid and noid means information and his distance is edges this is a graph so guys in this video we are discussing by test data structure what is data and Vitus and different types of a data structure so in this video I am explaining all the type for shortly and in the next video I am broadly explain all types so you are watching my youtube channel research area webs I'm dr. Mohammed so bear please subscribe my youtube channel if you are enjoy and like my video please like my video and share my video thanks have a nice day good bye
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Jack Spade Storydeck by Stephen Ablett
hi this is Jack Spade private detective is my story deck routine I hope you enjoy it what we have here is a small case inside this case is a pack of playing cards what I'm going to what I'm about to do is to tell you a story that pertains to every card in this pack as I reveal the parts of the story with its narrative I will find that car that's relevant to the plot for example this is the story of Jack Spade now Jack Spade was a private detective one day a redhead walked into his office Jack immediately noticed her two beautiful eyes and huge ears she was out walking her dog one day when suddenly you know a dog as in a Kine when suddenly she was attacked by an evil King the evil King should be about there oh sometimes s i don't pay attention attention but if we give it a little rub we can turn it into the evil King now the king stole the L's 14 karat gold rink and if Jack was to get it back he would get a diamond as his reward it should be about that but Jack didn't want a diamond what he wanted was a kiss on the cheek from the Fair Lady of course she thought he was joking but decided to take him up on the case anyway Jack made his way to 42nd street where the crime took place 42nd Street being about there 42nd Street he was tempted to take on a show but he had a job to do and he had to look for some Clues any kind of evidence anything which might suggest where he was where that King had got to everything seemed a bit lost confused he was upside down back to front nobody knew anything that could take place but suddenly a street light came on and lit the way to the Queen's head PB since it was the only card that was upside down in the pack inside he had a look for someone that matched the description of that King we'll choose a number by random I'm going to say six for this case I go one 2 3 four five six they should take me to an evil King Jack questioned him about the gold ring which had how many carrots in it 14 and he said that he had it but if he wanted it back he would have to beat him at a game of poker Jack thought about this for a moment and then decided to have a quick look at the rule book before joining the game with five other players five of which should be here three of which were instantly knocked out as fast as left the remaining players each plac to bid onto the table equal to the number of Carrs in that ring and then they displayed their hand player one he had a pair of Threes along with three of a kind in the way of three eights at one point they all look like the same eight until he showed that he had a full house he was so happy with his hand that he gave himself a high five the thief was doing a bit better he had four of the kind in the way of four Sixers when he revealed a fifth six we knew something was off with this pack but Jack he should be about there Jack he had the best hand in the game for he once we find this last card here he had a royal FLH with the ring as his reward he went to the bar for a drink of seven up he also had a pair because because he heard it was one of his five day but the thief came up to him and gave him three hits to the head and three hits to the chest call the police somebody said but Jack didn't need the police he had to just give one hit where it really hurt and he had won that fight he then weigh his way back down 42nd Street where he saw the queen gave her back a 14 karat gold ring and then told Jack that he was a real Ace and with that the only thing left for Jack to say was that this case was closed
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Could these be the WORST Horror Knock Off Toys Ever Made??
if anybody was wondering who's picking up all those knockoff toys on eBay it's this guy here [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] yes the second box we're gonna get opened up it's about the same sized box as the previous box of knockoff Chucky figures that we looked at on this channel could this very well be this box right here be the worst knockoff bootleg toys of horror figure icons we shall open up the box and find outs and I have already technically cut open the box and yet I assure you that I have not looked at the contents inside whatsoever waiting for my initial reaction doing it on camera here I would also like to apologize for the previous video as we looked at the knockoff bootleg Chucky figures I certainly didn't want anyone to think that I was making direct comments towards the Mexican culture simply was a case that these were Mexican toys sold in Mexico they were made of a lesser quality and of course they were knockoff toys same thing can really be said for these ones these were advertised as being Mexican knockoff horror figures I think I think verbatim ly that's even what the title said so I basically I'm only basing this video and my opinions of the video based on the information that's in provided in front of me I don't mean to like I said make any of take any I hope that nobody takes offense to me calling these knockoffs from Mexico because that's essentially what these are now funny enough actually a couple of people even messaged me on Facebook you can also message me over on Facebook if you want I could put that information down below so make it asked or had saw these on eBay and asked me if I'd be curious to pick them up well funny enough sir thank you very much for the gentleman that had reached out to me I had already picked up these and I even mentioned that in the reply back to him on Facebook that I had already picked those up and that reviews yes reviews of these will follow these could very well be I say that every single time we look at these but these could easily be some of the worst if not the worst knockoff figures doesn't really matter where they're from but the knockoff horror figures that we've ever seen I first draw your attention to what I guess could be Michael Myers it's rather interesting these molds because I don't think they're actually taken from anything clearly the Chucky ones were taken from NECA molds these ones on the other hand I don't know if they come from anything they could be 100% genuine as genuine as genuine as these could be these could be probably this brand-new molds here we have Michael Myers yeah I mean the head sculpt in the credit of the figure it's not terrible it looks like it's been painted with somebody with their eyes closed but still it's not a terrible looking rendition of Michael Myers the hair is brown and the mask is white the boilers the coveralls are all blue kind of a metallic blue as well somebody has gone very very generously on the black paint they're filling in all these little little wrinkles and creases and stuff on it and it's saturated once again with blood on the front which seems to be the calling card for a lot of these there are horror characters so let's splash a whole bunch of paints overtop of them again the head sculpt isn't terrible it does have at the very least some poseability head the arms nothing apparently in the waist there's the undersides of the feet it looks like a dog has chewed up on these I hope that no animal has laid their teeth into these or any child put these in their mouth once again I don't feel like the paint is probably the healthiest and that not necessarily is any derogatory comment towards a culture that would have made these simply by the fact that I know many of these knockoff toys really have really cheap in some cases really bad unhealthy paint on them so I do this certainly I show the videos for these for you guys for your in entertainment and truthfully truth be told there's some bit of a charm to these that I can't it's hard to describe and yet I get so excited when I see these on eBay I see a new knockoff series of bootleg figures like figures and I immediately want to pick them up yes I know I I dropped there it is I dropped the chainsaw not that Michael Myers ever had really sported a chainsaw I don't really know what what's even going on with his hands kind of looks like the gloves that Alexa bliss wears in the WWE but apparently a chainsaw and a a knife a very large knife is Michael's weapons of choice it's a rather thick chainsaw as well I don't know what this would have originally come from but there is Michael Myers for your enjoyment your viewing pleasure you can see that there are probably I think want to once it is about six figures in here and we're gonna again pull these out and have a look at these oh my goodness I did now see images of these online I obviously i did see pictures of these when i ordered them it wasn't a case where there we go focus camera was this ablai case where the the posting was just in black it's a big black screen and it said knockoff toys no I did see pictures the seller was very nice enough to post images of what these look like so I sort of had a feeling of what I could kind of I knew what I was getting into and yets physically getting these in hands I'm amazed with how bad these actually are I'm gonna assume this is Tiffany who you gotta have to question the taste in women that Chucky has if this is appealing to him again I don't know if this was taken from any existing mold she was wearing at least her leather jacket and they would they took the time to paint in her dress her white wedding dress but it is pretty bad looks like she's got Callaghan as a Callaghan well Botox and her lips there I'm no expert when it comes to cosmetic surgery I've keeping myself as pristine and original as I as the day I was born but that is a that is a rough that is what you would call my friends a sore for sight eyes and no it's not the other way around when you want to talk like this the arms do they have pose ability I don't think so I think her hands that committed also safe to say proportionately nothing on her is accurate her head I almost if it looks like it was taken from another figure the arms are way too small you can kind of see the seam line in which these were made in the mold again oh the head does move okay the arms no the arms don't seem like they want to move does she come with any accessories other than of course we're sure Beauty no no she does not oh whoa that's that's a rough one that is a rough one and again I don't think I'm misleading this in any way shape or form I mean anyone watching these could probably see the same thing I'm seeing that these are pretty bad even like these plastic in which they came in are of a very cheap cheap plastic be plastic bags ripped very quite very very easily okay so let's move on like it's Christmas morning and again this brings enjoyment to me in a way I couldn't even describe couldn't even begin to describe to you their gruesome but there's something charming I must say about them this is jigsaw or it could be Amanda from the movie saw to the credit not a bad head sculpt at least at the very least they sculpted a robe and although the robe is of course attached to the feet you've got this all this extra plastic that has just come out from the mold itself there's the undersides of the boots does have the blade although it kind of looks like it's more or less spatula than anything else flipping pancakes is what jigsaw does when of course he's not putting people into their traps I don't know if the arm was melted it looked like it almost got squished in a printing press but at least at least the head sculpt is acceptable it's covered in rags I mean really all actually you know what Tiffany wasn't covered in red but she was just covered in ugly ugly pose Billy on this one the head the arms rotate back and forth head seems to rotate back and forth once again they love their black panel outlining they put panel lining on all of this figure or they've simply just taken a wet brush of black paint just kind of wiped off the excess so it would only fill in the little creases there could be one of the better ones and that's not saying a whole lot by the way none of these seem to be standing upright only michael successfully has managed to stay upright we push forward and what again could be some of the worst might even just put that in the title some of the worst knockoff bootleg horror figures on the market today my adventures continue but he says would you would you do more of these absolutely just seem like I'm I'm attracted to these as soon as I see them on eBay comes with a hunting knife I don't think it's the same no it doesn't seem the same knife as Michaels knife this is Ghostface from the scream franchise I was gonna say he's got a plastic let me just remove that oh sorry sorry that's that's your phone kind of looks like a juice box it looks like a little drinking box I wonder what's inside maybe it's fruit punch give him his knife if it can fit into his hand oh no no it does not I exaggerated that a little bit more than what I should have but no it doesn't fit inside his hand his hand just doesn't open enough well I mean it looks like the Sun has melted him I have to quickly tell myself while scream Ghostface does kind of have a face like that okay duly noted it looks like he's been painted with cake frosting of course the rest of his body is all black I don't know if it's been painted black or if it just simply came out of the mold black it has this I don't even know what's all over this looks like peanut butter looks like somebody was holding him just finishing off a peanut butter sandwich just kind of holding him painting his face with cake frosting not one of the better ones still think not one of the worst either I might still award that to Tiffany not that that's a title award that a figure should be entitled or deserving of we move on to any wise the clown now this one seems good this one seems like a there could be potential for it it comes with a balloon but the balloon is not red instead they've opted for a purple balloon that's different but that's okay this is the 2017 Pennywise they all sort of get that feel that vibe when I'm looking at it like a dog has chewed away at these that the quality of the paint is certainly not some of the best I've seen I don't know what color they were going with it was just like mud maybe this is probably clearly a case where they've painted the figure while the figure was still wet so some of the paints luckily which none has come off any of which on to my fingers but it looks like the paint was already wet and they just simply added more paint to it that sculpt is passable some consistency I'm sure with all the things I've said about all these figures so far they're consistently passable they're not great but again if you dig sort of this sort of figure the charm and the appeal I see it you may not see it I personally see it so if we can get the balloon into his hand get that at the very least into penny wisest hand again I feel like the hole in the hand is not big enough to support the balloon probably take a knife and dare not say would want to damage the figure but I would want wait maybe want to open the hole in the hand just a little bit more it doesn't fit into this hand because the only want to fit into this hand but the hand hole is just not big enough it just is not big enough it will just leave it be we'll just leave it be with the other pile of accessories over here that I can't do anything with this guy does have head pose ability again I'm not really sure what mold these these must be they're brand new molds unique to their own line if you can call this really a line of figures certainly I'm not implying that all Mexican toys look like this and there's great toy examples of everything I mean again you can go into a flea market here in Canada I can go into a flea market and find terrible cheap knockoffs of stuff doesn't mean that the entire company well I guess maybe that entire company would make toys like that certainly don't want too many people set off just don't like the Mexican culture no I that's not not it at all we're just just looking at toys that just happened to be really really really bad I like the eyes though I mean that's that's something I dig the eyes then tried their best to paint the the mouth I don't know what's going on with the mouth it sort of has it this one's going the right way this one's either decided to stop and grab something to eat or it's lost instead of going straight up I mean your destination is right up there line I don't know where you're going down here you're you're going right into his eyeball Pennywise the clown everybody does he stand all right we got three out of five that came so far stand wrap this video up on what I hope to be a hi this is the Annabelle doll and I think of all the ones that the first bootleg figures the knockoff figures we looked at I think had Jason it had leather face I think it had Freddy Krueger so really I guess you could say that this is a series two and what a series it is oh what a garish looking head sculpt now I'm just gonna reach down here and I'm gonna grab Tiffany I'm gonna look at the two and I'm gonna think which which is the worst one I mean both are dolls yes both are evil yes both are female dolls okay sure I might even say of the two the better one is Annabelle I mean it's by such a small margin but I mean that is just a Oh terrible terrible it's felt just layer down we don't need to be looking at that anymore so I mean this one's done pretty good I mean it's got the paint there around the cheeks the lips are done in red and the little bows there on the hair done read at least proportionately the arms are of the proper length unlike Tiffany's arms which were really small stumpy little arms Annabelle at least does have longer arms she has hello hello in there just like a big black hole there's nothing in there there's no lights but I guess that's all it really needs to do if they can stand mission accomplished all right it can stand that's all we really need for this toy to really do does it have head poseability it sure does doesn't seem to have anything in the way of the arms by the way the plastic it's hard to describe it would be almost the consistency of black licorice slightly rubbery slightly soft and really all the figures I kind of Michael yeah same idea too he's got a bit of the softer plastic so they're all kind of made out of this I don't even know what you would describe the plastic as being LA like I said melted licorice black licorice melted rubber maybe it's made by recycled tires I don't know but they're certainly not great figures and yeah I love these things I adore these you wonderful specimens of bootleg figures and can't really even call them bootlegs or knockoffs I guess they're knock-offs what would define a knockoff I doesn't have to necessarily be a casting of an original mold I guess knockoffs are really anything that's licensed a toy that's based on a licensed property that isn't officially licensed I guess is the best way to describe a bootleg or a knockoff I think my favorite of the batch of the lot I may be slightly biased for saying this is probably Michael Myers it's not a great figure certainly it can be said that none of these are great figures but but I think he's the best little lot let me know down below what do you think is the best of the lot what is the best figure from this series to lineup of knockoff horror figures they were from Mexico doesn't really matter where they were from yeah pretty bad and yeah I still love these today we were having a look at some more bootleg knockoff not the real thing pretty bad looking toys I picked up on eBay will this adventure continue what you certainly will have to stay on this channel stay tuned to this channel hit that little subscribe button if you haven't done so already to see if I pick up more of these I'm always on the search I was checking eBay on a regular basis that as soon as an auction pops up just like this you can bet if they're sold they're likely sold to this guy right here again make sure you hit that little subscribe button down below my friends my colleagues viewers of the interweb certainly more videos not quite like this but certainly more videos will become insuit to this channel and thanks for watching guys I'll see you next time
The Review Spot
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January 2020 Blast! (ft. Gorillaz, Roddy Ricch, Dua Lipa, Avicii & The Beatles!)
January blast January recap in other words I am here to present you guys to one songs because because we have 31 days in January now this is just a new type of video I want to make maybe I'm gonna be doing it every month now at the end of the every month you know I'm saying sort of like re-evaluating what we've been listening to this month now this is just I'm gonna speak on me like I mean from my perspective what I've been listening to but I'm actually really interested what you guys have been listening to this January and I would love if the fact that if you will recommend you some songs you know your jams I actually really want to explore which you guys listen to and definitely I will check it out and you know maybe in the next episode or something like that I will mention hey look I've actually listen to this doesn't that show you your comment you know hey look this person suggested me this I listened to it and I liked it for example right so yeah so I feel like it was a cool way to sort of interact with each other suggest each other's songs so let me start i have 31 songs as i said so i divided my songs into two sections the first one is called makes me happy now these are the songs that turn me like turn me up pretty much I'm ready like I get hyped I sort of dance to it I you know I it makes me happy pretty much and it gets me going when you have a sad day just turn on this type of songs and you started please feeling better just dance to it you know so so Roger rich the box you know pretty much the main hit right now the box by right rich if you haven't heard definitely check it out lil uzi verts food saw shuffle 2020 I'm really addicted to this Jam really my thing I am I said what - oh god I'm serious there's like it's it's a really it's an amazing pop to me at least Harry Styles treat people with kindness and then we have Kate Ranade midsection fishing for our Williams also another great song I just you know final production if you have watched me for a while now you you know that Pharrell Williams turns me on live in the custom like his production like he's he's amazing his music is great on his signature style is really cool nice to meet you what's name I wanted to say but actually it is nice to meet you Meghan Trainor's version of nice to meet you it's a different couple of different song is just an the similar name as now horn song and this song features Nicki Minaj it's a cool song mama tree bliss by Gorillaz I reacted to it on this channel and by the way I mentioned Meghan Trainor I've listened to her album not the whole entire thing yet to be honest but I just want to say you know if I don't react to something that means that doesn't mean that I don't listen to it in her saying I just cannot have time to react to everything I listen to but um you know this lists are pretty much you know this recap is an opportunity to talk on the songs I didn't have a chance to talk about so Meghan Trainor's album promising start though I've listened to like five six songs not a bad project I thought it's gonna be worse but it's actually still on Meghan Trainor's standard Leona's ex and nas rodeo that's a remix really cool song loved it from the beginning and now this remixes adds really cool things as well to it tell her to create a group beef really fantastic sample and cool flow physical by do a loop or do a leaper surprised me with this one completely different style and yet amazing it works retro vibes I'm getting from this track also physical and future nostalgia was also amazing song so I haven't reacted to both of these singles but they are great they are actually amazing so I'm I'm back at DU Olympus hype although I never you know got away from totally / hype but that's - that was the only one song I'm gonna start now which I reacted sort of negatively on this channel and maybe people thought that hey like bob is not like into illipe anymore was having but no and do a lip is my babe still to this day I love her and even don't start now actually no I mean it's a good song so let's continue dance again by Selena Gomez actually this song live on me - on my reaction to singleness album I thought there was something missing but actually now I'm dancing to the groove I'm you know I'm jamming - this is really cool nice song cumbia is speciale by on the on the tropica this is from 2012 is just nice so salsa really awesome song you know if you like Latino type of melodies and you like salsa dance just check it out check this vibe out it's really cool instrumental you might like it bi TCH by Megan this town anybody by burning a boy a hard day's night by the Beatles if you like the Beatles I mean you already know the song probably but if you're not really familiar with Beatles and you don't know why they are so famous why they're so iconic I wouldn't say this is the best representation but it's still a good song you know singing just one of the many many good Beatles songs and check it out are this 9 it's cool song good vibrations by the Beach Boys also sort of a classic at this point released a long time ago but really it gives you good vibrations is a really good wipe song and my list is over at this point when custom makes me happy section now second section last section I call it emotional or other there are some emotional songs but they're also just rap songs but I didn't want to like put it that didn't don't necessarily make me like hyped we're excited but um still no really good songs and I really like them so emotional Demi Lovato's anyone anyone great song and you can definitely hear the pain Demi Lovato's performance is great on the track still learning by Halsey another project manic by Halsey I didn't react to but you know in case you're interested I I thought it was okay good project but not necessarily like a album I want to come back to and listen to all the time but still nonetheless you gotta appreciate that host his effort that she assisted me chop on her album and still learning is a good song Simar by hayley williams now I kind of became a Paramore fried fan in 2017 that was actually my first project full project I listened to by Paramore and I really enjoyed it it was different vibe comparing to other things they'd done but I really enjoyed hard times and told you so you know I cannot remember after laughter yeah that's Dale but um now Hayley Williams lead singer from Paramore is going so low and simmer is a really good song I really enjoyed it what to do by Jack boys we already saw from my reaction video on Jack boys that I really enjoyed the song what to do and I still to this day listen to what to do is a great great fantastic song now we have kygo Avicii and sander Cabezas collab Forever Yours also amazing someone no regrets by eminem featuring dr. oliver that's - that's a song i decided to pick from and there's alban although there were a few other choices i could actually pick because i you know there are quite a big amount of tracks acting like from that record but my pick was no regrets for this video Amaya a real amp ago I actually started this is pretty recently she reminds me of Dido if you know Dido also like soft beautiful melodic voice and sort of soothing but at the same time it's it's an emotional song it's a pretty sad song but it's good it's really good if you craving for some Spanish music some Spanish really high-quality pop music that actually can bring a lot of emotions from you there from the element Paco by Amaya check it out whoo okay by Rosalia we reacted to the resonator song on this channel so yeah we covered everything on that point brotherbrother early work every day it's a good song it's talking about how you know we work everyday like non-stop sort of I mean yeah there are week weekends but like we give the whole selves to the world word school universities but like there has to be more to life than this you know saying so it's it's a cool it's a cool song and I love the melodies I love the wrapping a lot of really beautiful sample that is going throughout the song and the chorus it's a good song check it out on melancholy healed by Gorillaz legendary song legendary I will leave it at that Benny the butcher 18-wheeler featuring Pusha T another cool rap song I was in now east by a little sweatshirt it's sort of I saw a meme where you know a joker you know the movie Joker home weekend Phoenix he was dancing on the stairs and like the meme was saying how the East actually is a perfect soundtrack it could have been this perfect soundtrack to Joker's so if you like the movie Joker maybe check out the song East Holocene by Bon Iver really nice song really melodic really powerful really good pull one out Bible or it's my friend Sam who you saw probably multiple times on this channel he you know made an album he published an album official album it's on Spotify on Apple music is called multiplicity check it out our link I would put a link in the description who for those who are interested in poor one out is sort of my choice for this video it's track 7 on the album mahogany by Lil Wayne and we close the video with underdog by Alicia Keys nice R&B it's a it's a song from 2020 but it it's it really feels like a throwback because the production is sort of like from 2000 typical Alicia Keys from 2000 but it works it actually really works because I feel like people missed this type of songs it was a pleasant to talk to you guys and present these songs see you guys now it's your time to shine in the comments below suggest some songs that you liked let me know in the comments below also what you think about my picks for from January do you know about any of these songs what's your opinion on them let me know share share with me please let's talk with each other and yeah yes we entered that last thing I want to announce if you don't want it I can you know cover your name or you know I don't have to reveal her identity but like I feel like it would be cool to show you too to this platform to the musical Bob channel to everybody who is watching this channel so if I will heart you know love your comment you'll basically know that you're gonna be represented in the next video like this at the end of February so keep your not a keep an eye on that and that's it from me thank you so much for watching hit the like button if you liked this video subscribe to this channel now I'll see you guys in the next goodbye
Music With Bob
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Hurricane Irma Update: I live in South Florida 😱😲 #3
[Music] hey everyone so um first an update on my back it's still a little wonky slept a couple more hours than I did the night before so we're getting there little by little but as far as mi goes actually feel a little bit better about the situation now they're still showing the entire state of Florida is still in effect but they're kind of showing up the spaghetti models are gonna be coming up through here so I'm thinking we won't get a direct hit so I'm thinking there's not going to be a mandatory evacuation which makes me very very happy but again the answer is still we don't know we don't know we don't know but I'm definitely feeling a little bit better about the situation I mean now what they're saying is it could even go up into the Carolinas so it's just a wait-and-see so waiting on my friend on it to come over she's bringing some extra food for for my dad who's also going to be staying with me and I just want to show you my outside area so you'll you'll see one of the reasons why I want to stay but absolutely beautiful day in Florida sun is shining looks gorgeous but the reason why I came outside I just wanted to show you everything here is poured concrete and I live in a sort of the little corner area and I'm surrounded by a ton of other poured concrete and crew including in the in my back alley as well and we have a absolute ginormous building here so I mean I'm I'm feeling the cupping that building is so I'm feeling I'm feeling fine I'm really not that working my mom by the way was a little upset that I said go with your gut she just wants to make it clear to everyone she doesn't know what her gut is saying it's that's the message from my mom Eddie in my house but I need to make room in my garage my dad's carcasses [Music] yes [Music] so just woke up from a little nap back still hurtin so I'm just trying to get rest whenever I can the two o'clock announcement has just been issued and so still confused about about what I'm seeing initially I was like okay it looks like it's gonna go a little more east of where I live but I was just looking at this and so I live about right here and yeah well you can see this is what they're calling for right now but I mean still look at this this cone it's like it's massive they just thought it called a state of emergency for the Carolinas so you know it's just a wait-and-see so in the meantime I am still prepping so as far as like my food situation I'm definitely definitely covered my friend Anna came over she's actually gonna be spending the hurricane with me as well as my dad so yeah I think we're pretty much prepared on that I've got a lot of frozen goods you know if I lose power oh well we'll just cook it up but one of my subscribers actually gave me a great idea and that was any of your used bottles of water just fill them up put put them in the freezer so they're nice and cold and then later I can use this for for Olli if I need to well myself but a guy I got a lot of cases of water so I should be pretty good because I think I started preparing before anybody else did I've also got my little I've got a charging station over here so I'm good on that and then last but not least I am actually crack potting some chickens so I can shred it and make a chicken salad throw it in some pasta like whatever just easy stuff so yeah I think I'm I'm almost there I have actually let me show you over here I have a the cutest little bird feeder so I gotta take this guy out which kind of sucks so yeah I gotta take the bird feeder out still have to take the screens out but I'm I'm I'm feeling more confident about not having to evacuate so I think that's a good thing I still think it's gonna be a strong storm but we'll see I'm just gonna keep watching it the next update is gonna be 5 o'clock so we'll see where we stand with that and my dear friend Anna help me break down all the the rest of the boxes in my garage so so I will be able to fit my dad's car so that's a good thing so thank you enough all right so Anna was nice enough this was the one that helped me actually do the garage so thank you again for that but we they just came out with a 5 o'clock report and just to show you here so it looks like it's still still coming up and it doesn't look that good for us but we're still holding strong and just getting ready Ana's loading us up with the food as you saw earlier and now both of us are kind of surprised about the the timing of it because it was supposed to be Saturday Sunday morning now it's going to Monday morning so we'll keep keep waiting and we're both kind of waiting on our work to figure out what to do you've probably seen my car before I have a little little tiny mini like a two-seater mini she luckily has a SUV so I think on Friday night I'm gonna take a goober to work and hopefully she'll drive you home well I should disappear so yeah thank you I appreciate that all right I'm gonna show you the time line so it looks like Saturdays we're really gonna start feeling some effects we have Sunday and Monday that are probably gonna be pretty crappy hopefully we're prepared or almost prepared and I saw another cool trick someone had just posted on Facebook that any of your valuables you can actually put in your dishwasher so make sure you have all your you know as I always say like make sure you do your laundry but do your dishes and any of your valuables that you need that you can actually put in the dishwasher because it is airtight so that's a good good tip [Music] you
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Assassin's Creed Unity 7 Wrongfully, Fatefully Imprisoned
Ignatius fore at seven here whoo welcome back i'm gonna try to figure out how best to go about doing this no wasting we're gonna try and get out yelling here this way we got this can't doing all right I'm gonna knock him out if I can no options really last check yeah screwed it up see if I can't figure it out hmm could be no power to duty no waste of time there's no down here dang it why would let me do it this is rage face land here maybe I can just sneak past him mm-hmm how did you know wisdom there's nobody out here seriously long do you stay right there guy of the randomness you serious whoo let's stash away for a moment alright got a guy there and I got there who's even going to come out here yikes ten to one I end and I cleaning a rich it's a bit scary shoes go go go go go go go go yes oh yes win sauce you're right Monsieur too much of the Kings champagne Monsieur no you the last time for isn't with you laughter see ya come away cars felt murder of course I get really you're playing for this Ellis air that's stupid if it adds conflict though so a little bit of jail for a long time and come back like Robinson Crusoe and then take my revenge upon those who imprisoned me hello Wow they giving me a loading bar that's pretty intense maybe I'm progressing through the story too fast and hasn't installed yet exactly or you know so it's gonna take a minute here we go could just be a huge segment no it wasn't major will be denied please Dahlia it's all misty visa in fact Esther all costs I that carriers Oh God have mercy king of da Genova not yet degenerate he's naked I'm crazy Warner fiza hmm character that I'll see you more frequently no entertaining where am I he's mildly just silly thing just assume that I killed him II when I went looking at his body kneeling to see if he's okay circumstantial evidence but then again the court system wasn't as thorough back then as it is now just saying a lot really where he stared at pisspot I'm in the Bastille francois de la sale somebody's run the grass outside this fellas a little bit on the crazy pants I'd we talk to you would you turn to face him please welcome to your new home non I'm just go see is it frozen doesn't ever wind it that's awful man should wine your father's watch every now again we build the wrong way where'd you come by this piss Bob I'm in no mood for this give it back yeah take it back if you think you can okay stop wasting time what's the matter your delicate flower did I hurt your feelings oh nice face well struck this pod see if you're defenseless is good so much effort for a broken antique the only broken antiquing here is flapping his hideous jaw say that again got nothing to say huh she has a lot of help perfect Perry's give me what's mine and go back to your crazy drawings old man Jones is here everywhere scribbles are chicken scratches all over this cell what where come here you this part your hands off me look at the wall what are you doing concentrate concentrate eco-efficient nice are they messages from the past I had myself thrown into after prisons in Paris in search of these what's your name boy honor ah no Victor Dorian Dorian courts jabber lake I knew your father bully for you yeah pause bully for you that's funny till next time guys vulva tuna I'll see you next video you
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'Tilda Jane's Orphans | Marshall Saunders | Animals & Nature | Audio Book | English | 4/5
chapter 19 of tilde Jane's orphans this is a librivox recording all librivox recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer please visit librivox.org recording by Gloria beggarman Summerville South Carolina tilda Jane's orphans by Marshall Saunders chapter 19 grandpa's dream Hanks prediction came true but not just in the way he thought it would dodge and grappler as per letter called her to pets dodge being her adaptation of Diogenes and grappler a playful allusion to a fighting propensity became in time to find looking prosperous shouts and at an exhibition held in kiss Cosette bore off the prize awarded to young hogs her letters joy was ludicrous but it was also touching and after one look at her ecstatic face as she stood surveying her to blue ribbon and admired pets in the little country fair Hank registered a mental vow not to be Reeve her of the creatures she loved so dearly they were only pigs but they were her pigs and owing to their upbringing they had developed a most peculiar pig originality they were the worst pigs that ever lived Hank declared by feeding one at a time and making the other wait they had become very pugnacious with each other and with per letter and three-sided fights in the backyard were a frequent occurrence now they were of course old enough to feed themselves but for a long time pauletta had patiently attended to them one at a time in the little harness room while she presented the bottle to one the other would bite her feet and against her knees until Hank discovering her one day undergoing this martyrdom got a rope so that she could attach one Pig to the wall by the hind leg while being the other this made no difference in the pigs feelings toward her Letta they bore her a steady grudge though at the same time they had more attachment for her than for any other person they were also jealous of each other and beat and punished each other continually though they were never happy apart / Letta who is as strong as a man had herself made a pen in the backyard for them and Hank had built a small house but their intelligence and perversity were so great that they were rarely in this enclosure they would work their way out no matter how many obstacles were presented to them and strangely enough reverted to a wild type preferring to make their own beds rather than to sleep in the soft one provided for them their favorite lair was at the back of the garden in a tangle of currant bushes and lilacs and they could be seen frequently running from the barn with their mouths full of straw to replenish this lair they slept late in the morning but about breakfast time would appear at the back door clamouring for the nice warm breakfast / Letta always had ready for them after breakfast they crossed the road and went down to the river where they wallowed in the soft mud coming back at noon for another meal and to see whether the dogs had left any bones about the yard for them to nose over though they fought each other constantly they never quarreled with the dogs and even the puppy lost his fear of them and if they presumed to steal one of his bones would snatch it from them occasionally the pigs took it into their heads to make calls and urgent messages would come to Paletta from some neighboring house that her pigs were in the yard and would not get out arming herself with a broom she would go in search of them and with mutual snarling snapping and recrimination would guide them toward their home Tilda Jane was kind and forbearing with the new household pets and would feed them in polettis absence but Hank took an amused and constant interest in them so curious did he become with regard to the habits of the genus soos that he bought a large Natural History and devoted evening after evening to reading aloud from it to anyone who would listen to him Tilda Jane was usually busy with her lessons so it fell to his father to become chief auditor Hank soon became an expert with respect to the different types of pigs domesticated and wild large bodied big eared English breeds with convex backs small bodied short eared Chinese breeds with concave backs dwarf pigs River hogs Indian wild pigs French short tusked pigs but most of all he read over and over again accounts of the doings of the long-legged large headed and thin bodied Greyhound pigs of old Ireland one bright spring evening immediately after supper he sat in the dining room with his natural history in hand while his father listened to him from his armchair opposite just thanked dad Hank was exclaiming what simpletons some folks are to say that any critter has no sense here it tells that pigs are intelligent if you treat them right and that their scent is fine I believe that so for I've seen our to track per Letta grandpa said nothing and Hank went on this book says one man had a pig he trained to stand to game as steady as the best bread pointer do you calculate asked grandpa dryly to let those two hogs rampage all over our garden this coming summer the weather is getting warmer it will soon be time to stir up the ground and we've always had something of a plot this year dad said Hank I allowed to buy our vegetables and let the pig's snout up the garden all they like twill do the ground good to rest and the dogs and milkweed will have a chance to stretch their legs what would puppy there do with a garden and he pointed to handy Andy who lay stretched out in his red plush chair grandpa hesitated a few instants then he said huskily mr. Wace Smith will soon be taking him away in fact tis his last night with us he wants to send him to Boston Hanks they spell but he said nothing and stared at the dog by this time the little brindled animal had grown to be a handsome young dog his big head was lighted by a pair of brilliant and eloquent eyes that bespoke a somewhat chastened and disciplined puppy nature he did not perform half the mischievous tricks of a few months ago but he was by no means a model character yet as a large hole in the plaster in grandpa's room testified Hank had discovered it an hour before as he went to get a thinner coat for his father and when he mildly remarked upon it grandpa had said testily never mind never mind it's where the dog gets his lime he looks like muffles remarked hank at last but even better-looking finer somehow perhaps from his house upbringing of course that's it said grandpa shortly the dog book says that raising pups and large kennels restricts brain development for they lead a routine life this dog has been brought up like a child so he has dad and you ought to be proud of him you and tilde for you've raised him between you though I guess you've had the heft of the work tilde Jane has fussed about his food and I've kept him warm nights said grandpa he'll miss us i misdoubt taking him away I don't like it he's too young maybe mr. Wei Smith is going to bring him back again suggested Hank I don't know I don't know replied grandpa bitterly that's the way with things in this world change and decay I'm breaking up I feel it don't say that dad replied Hank uneasily why you haven't been as smart for years as you have been this winter and spring you're just a little down in the mouth on account of the pups going away i down in the mouth repeated grandpa indignantly and on account of a pup get out boy you're taking liberties Hank closed his book and got up muttering to himself it's funny but it's mostly the bear solemn truth that hurts in this life half the truth don't offend then he said aloud all right dad all right I feel cranky myself tonight and something seems to tell me that I'm going to die young must because sissy's gone out and left us she goes so seldom young girls should stay at home said grandpa in a crabbed voice I don't believe in getting well I guess I'll go feed the stock said Hank stretching out his fat arms and by the way I mustn't forget to give Tilda's pigeon some hemp that was a cute trick of little housetops yesterday dad wasn't it grandpa's face softened yes it was I like birds Hank went out through the kitchen to the backyard where he shaded his eyes with his hand and looked up toward Tilda Jane's window yesterday her little dark pet housetop who had got into the habit of flying in and out of her room had brought another pigeon with him to the windowsill the strange pigeon though one of those accustomed to feed about the yard would not enter the house so housetop with many pleading coos and bowing prettily had given his young mistress to understand that he had chosen a little mate and as she would not come in his room he did not know what to do about a nest Tilda Jane had run downstairs and reported the matter to Hank who told her that it would be better to move housetops box outside the window he had accordingly fastened the capacious cracker box on a shelf near the window ledge and now the two pigeons were flying busily back and forth from the barn carrying straws to add to the already luxurious nest Tilda Jane had provided for them seems as if they want to do something to help said Hank and passing pauletta who was vigorously brushing one of the pigs being rewarded by grunts and snaps of disapproval he went to get an evening meal for the birds and hens guess I'll give them buck wheat tonight he murmured feathered folk like a change in diet as well as humans land how we miss Cissy it's wholesome for her to get out once in a Coon's age but she leaves a powerful blank women and girls have a lot in their power he went on as he mechanically pursued his way into the barn now it don't seem as if Tilda Jane was of much account in the world but she makes a home and there are millions of homes to be made and if the home ain't made right nothing goes right women are the homekeepers what can the smartest man do toward getting his breakfast if the coffee is cold and the toast burnt and the mush sour he goes out in the world with a loan on his stomach and wrath in his heart that Raths got to be poured on someone and it's all some woman's fault I read a cook hi cooks keep the peace of the world who's going to fight on smooth victuals I believe brotherly love starts in the pantry I'm a better man since I stopped having dis Pepsi greasy fodder used to make me hate everyone by spells now I love all men and especially all women yes milk weed I'm a-comin good old girl you'll winning your lungs out if you don't take care no biddies tilde ain't here you needn't cackle for her I'm going to be your provider for tonight tilde Jane in the meantime accompanied by poacher and gippy who had received a special invitation had gone to spend the afternoon and evening and night with the Tracey's the two good persons who had advised her what to do when she first came to kiss Cosette and Grandpa treated her unkindly in Hanks absence they had been warm friends and safe counselors and now at intervals in the little girls busy life they took her to their own home for as long a time as she would stay of the three members of the household grandpa missed her most though he said least about her absence Hayes's dollars of beetle Hank muttered an hour later as he sat staring at him dad you look tuckered out don't you want to go to bed yes I guess I'll go said the old man getting up you'll mind and put the blower on the stove so the sparks won't fly out yes sir replied Hank and he got up to open the door for his father and the pup who was frolicking around him loathe to go to bed so early come sir said grandpa sternly none of your nonsense and he pushed handy Andy with his crutch yet at the same time his face softened where would his pet be at this time tomorrow night Hank sighed as the bedroom door closed on his father if the old man wasn't so smart in his mind I'd say he was in his dotage think of hating dogs till most 80 and then turning a somersault right in the middle of indulging them grandpa could not sleep well he lay awake for hours and at last fell not into a light dozing slumber but into a heavy dream haunted sleep that did not rest him he thought that he was a boy again hunting wild cats there they went through the woods to the swamp where their prey the rabbits abounded he could see the boys and the dogs running gleefully after them now he and his hound trip had singled out a wild cat it went up a tree but trip went too he was the one dog in the farming community that could climb a tree provided a fence were nearby to enable him to spring up among the branches in the meantime poor grandpa in his dream felt his strength giving out he fell on the soft moss and the wild cat pursued by the hound leaped from the tree to his breast he could feel it tearing and scratching at his throat would it kill him or would good dog trip he send from the tree and time to save him he would try to help himself and he put a feeble hand to his throat he could not push the wild cat away with deadly celerity it was nipping and tearing his garments soon it would reach the tender flesh with a supreme effort he roused himself and seized the wild cat by the throat he would kill it and he was just beginning to shake it violently when he awoke and discovered fortunately that the wild cat in his grasp had been changed into the petted pup handy Andy end of chapter 19 grandpa's dream chapter 20 of tilde Jane's orphans this is a librivox recording all librivox recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer please visit librivox.org recording by john brandon tilde chains orphans by marshall saunders chapter 20 the son of muffles the old man had been sleeping in such a profound though disturbed way that it took him a few seconds to recover himself he lay puffing and panting for breath with only sense enough to relax to hold onto the struggling dog whose young eyes were starting from his head while he lay trying to come out of his dazed condition he suddenly became aware of a changed state of the atmosphere he could not get his breath for the air was supercharged with smoke he was now wide awake and his brain moved with the rapidity of younger days the house was on fire the little dog with the strange instinct of protection belonging to dogdom had roused him and his duty done now lay quietly on his chest he knew that his master was awake a quick glad thought flashed through the old man's excited brain the small animal had done his duty and had got rid of responsibility now he was waiting waiting even for death should grandpa choose to remain how faithful were dumb creatures more faithful sometimes an animal's of a higher order grandpa did not stop pursue this line of thought without a movement toward his crutches he sprang out of bed and stumbled to the door he opened it then slammed it together violently hall and kitchen were full of blinding smoke coughing and choking he hurried to the open window flung it up higher and through cracked yells of Appeal out on the still night air fire fire help help he could not get out of the window for he was on the ground floor but he reflected that he would probably break a leg in so doing and if he waited Hank would be sure to come to him Hank's room was right over his Tilda Jaynes was nearer the front of the house Hank Hank son son he cried wake up the house is on fire there was no response from Hank and seizing the large Bell from the side of his bed grandpa rang it out the window with all his might soon he could see the melech ones coming through the darkness tumbling and hopping over each other looking like white and striped rabbits in their bed attire one of the boys ran to give alarm in the town and father and mother Melek Juan assisted grandpa out the window the dog first he said when they held out their hands to him he saved my life wake Hank Oh wake Hank he called to the melech want children who forthwith began to execute a dance of an excited and hilarious character unto their neighbors window and to bombard him with stones and any missiles they could lay their hands on and purr Letta grandpa edit the girl sleeps like a log mrs. Melek Juan ran to a sale / leta's window vigorously with gravel and sticks and soon her tousled head appeared tell her to run to the back of the wood house attic call grandpa and come down the rough steps she can't get through the kitchen / Letta she was told but Hank was in a quandary front hall full of smoke also back he balled out I'm going to jump on my bed and forthwith he began to hurl mattress bed clothes anti summer and winter garments out the window when he thought he had made a heap sufficiently soft he put a foot on the sill gave a leap and alighted without accident the house was not high and the risk in jumping was consequently small arrived on the ground he flashed a comprehensive glance at his father the pup and per letter and said every living thing is out I guess except sissy's pigeon said grandpa that's so reply Hank the creature must be dazed by all this confusion and this smoke is puffing round its box now with amazing rapidity for a fat man he ran to the barn and returned with a ladder of medium-sized detached the pigeon box carried it down and placing it on one side through some clothes over it otherwise the frightened creature might flutter out he muttered now friends he shouted let's see if we can save any stuff that isn't alive but no risks mind by this time the dining room kitchen and Grandpa's bedroom were burning swiftly and Hank called out no use trying to get in there / Letta you and mr. Milich Wong run to the back and see if you can snake anything out of the wood house mrs. Melek Juan and the children come with me I guess I'll rescue a few things from the front of the house tonight fortunately was not dark and the flames were now beginning to illuminate the yard and garden as the front door was locked on the inside Hank smashed a window jumped in and soon was passing out the haircloth furniture Tilda Jane sewing machine was here also some books and other treasured possessions placed in the best room to keep them out of hand Andy's way blisters it's getting hot here muttered Hank who with perspiration pouring down his face was flinging things about I guess I'll have to quit these wooden houses blazed up like matchboxes and with a leap he dodged a long tongue of flame coming in through the doorway and landed on the grass outside here's the fire engine shattered the melech want children as he once more appeared among them much good it'll do growled Hank they can't save anything but the cellar now a crowd of half dressed men and boys were running beside the engine and Hank soon had two or three score of willing helpers there's nothing to be done he said to the chief of the fire department but play some water on it if you want to the place is doomed the nearest hydrant is over there in front of the next house the man saw that his assistants had already found the hydrant and with a backward glance at them he said to Hank there's no danger of the barn going is there no siree replied Hank I took good care to have it a ways off never did see the sense of having a house at a barn clapped close together thanked fortune there ain't a breath of wind tonight there goes the Attic old boxes and childhoods toys well I for one ain't bound to rags and reminiscences I'll build another house there's mighty heap money goes up in flames every year in this country said mr. melih kuan drawing near and speaking to Hank tis terrible yes terrible muttered Hank it's such dead loss got any insurance asked his neighbor some not much not nearly enough to cover the loss I never foresaw this well I must skip to the barn that mayor of mine will be fair crazy with all this Rao and he hurried away the little house was now one brilliant bonfire the flames sprang high never before had it looked such a good size and so picturesque the dancing light cast strange shadows over the yard and stable and the faces of the onlookers it was not a pleasing spectacle but it was curiously fascinating upon my soul snickered one of the firemen who was standing with a hose in his hand directing a stream of water in the middle of the pit of flame look over yonder funny spectators those his companion stared in the direction of the clump of shrubbery behind the house there side by side quietly contemplating the fire were two large white pigs they neither advanced nor retreated but presently went for lettuce spied them and walked up to caress them they impatiently twitched their short tails grunted and tossed up their heads then walked back into the darkness I've heard tell they were great folks for animals in this house said the first man and when I see two pigs running to a fire like two Christians I believes it they say it was a dog give the alarm responded the other that's nothing new dogs has saved lots of property and lives and cats too for that matter our smell ain't in it with theirs and some that seems to tell them what's coming now how did this house catch on fire grandpa was saying to Hank who had walked out of the stable with his arm round milkweeds neck I found her shivering and scared to death Hank remarked and I thought that with horses like humans suspense was worse than knowledge so I brought her out see she ain't so bad now and he patted her quivering neck horses hate fire said his father well dad about the starting of it Hank continued I'm up a tree the dining room fire was most yet out when I went to bed the kitchen stove was going for per letter had been baking late but all the covers was on we ain't had any fire in the hall stove since the warm spring weather began it beats me were there any matches lying around ask grandpa we never used no Sulphurs interposed for letter eagerly as she came closer to them there was all parlor matches perhaps bad flu suggested mrs. Melek Juan I guess that must have been it said Hank dejectedly the chimneys weren't well built when father put up this house he was cheated by a fellow that he thought wouldn't cheat most nights I'd go round upstairs to feel the woodwork but I didn't think of it last night how we get fooled you suffer and the other fellow gets the money in this poor world said mrs. Melek Juan softly in another twill be made up yes but it's a powerful long time to wait said Hank if I had the arranging of things I'd give all my object lessons in this life according to me sinners have all the good times here and Saints sweat the French woman smiled a benignant angelic smile that she said sweetly and now let us think of your poor father this is shocking for him suppose he comes and enters into one of our nice warm beds two children will gladly turn out for him mr. Hank did you know twice the dear dog that woke you father no said Hank sharply was it yes and mrs. Malik Juan told him that grandpa had related his wild a dream to her Hank uttered another astonished exclamation then said I won't speak to him about it tonight he's pretty well worked up I'm a hundred times obliged to you for taking him in dad will you go home with our kind neighbor grandpa turned with us start from his contemplation of the fire where are your crutches asked Hank he threw them out on the grass said mrs. Melek Juan when grandpa did not reply boys look for them grandpa without waiting for the crutches to be found started off with a firm step toward mrs. Melek Juan's house look at that cried Hank I've heard of such things before rheumatism can be shocked out of the blood by some accident like a railway collision or North quake or a fire but I should think dad would be too old for it it is in his old age that your father makes change said mrs. Melek Juan softly that's true replied Hank and it shows that while there's life there's hope now I must go thank the men for coming from town with the engine I see they're getting ready to go home I will follow your father said mrs. Melek Juan taking the crutches from one of her boys you and pearl Etta will come when you like you can take her now said Hank over his shoulder I'm gonna stay right here tonight then come to breakfast said his kind neighbor and going up to the staring gaping pearl Etta who had scarcely opened her mouth since the fire began she led her away with her in an hour the place was deserted by all human beings save Hank he sat on the little raised platform in the yard where he groomed milkweed and where Tilda Jane and pearl Etta brushed clothes and shook rugs grimy and disheveled he surveyed the smoking ruins of his home a good chance to be cast down he soliloquized I'm not money enough to build a new home and I don't know anyone that would lend it to me except at a sky rate of interest but ain't gonna worry show what's a burnt house to what some men have to go through here you milkweed stop puffing and blowing over my shoulder that fire ain't gonna hurt you now come on to your stall pigs go back to your lair and he addressed the two curious animals who had again emerged from the shades of the garden after the crowd went away and were standing staring at him upon my words if you treat animals halfway decent they want to hang on to your coattails all the time he continued well I'm in need of comfort from someone or something there was a lot here I believe most folks enjoy a fire if it ain't their own house that's burnin I usually like running to a fire myself but somehow or other I didn't seem to enjoy this one what was that I was reading to dad the other night something about the most of us getting a lot of consolation out of the troubles of our friends pigs didn't I tell you to go to bed you ain't gonna one pose on me if I am a half-round man sup nosing my best clothes you'd like to lie on the $30.00 overcoat would you I guess I've saved most of my things a penny I couldn't get into sissy's room ain't I glad she wasn't here good now I'll carry all this stuff in the barn and then lie down on the hay for a spell the dogs just break-in and I'm a grown man not a fool of a boy I must quit repining end of chapter 20 recording by John Brandon chapter xxi off till the Jains orphans this is a librivox recording all librivox recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer please visit librivox.org recording by denis tain of Kelowna canada till the Jains orphans by Marshall Saunders chapter 21 till the Jane receives a shock very early the next morning till the Jane came trotting from the town with poacher at her heels and behind him the three-legged Kippy puffing and grunting uh named eeab Lee at her haste she had had a pleasant visit at the Tracey's and had got up early to breakfast with them before they took a train to Bangor not a rumour of the fire of the night before had reached her and with a happy face and frequent glances at a basket on her arm in which reposed a fine large fruitcake for grandpa who was fond of sweets as mrs. Tracey always remembered she hurried along the road by the river her eyes leapt ahead past the Smiths and the delivers in search of the little two-story Dwight cottage with the tiny Tower which was the dearest spot on earth to her why what did it mean there was no cottage roof showing through the treetops that were just bursting them to leaf no neatly curtain'd windows were waiting to greet her like quiet friendly eyes at the house she broke into a run and wheeled breathlessly into the yard her amazed sweeping glance took in everything the still smoking ruins the deserted yard no not deserted for there were little housetop and his maid strutting gaily about spreading their tales and cooing as harmoniously as if there were no such thing in the world as trouble till the Jane stopped started forwards stops again and clasping her hands looked about her the sound of a cheery whistle broke upon her ear and the same instant someone threw open the big barn door Oh Hank she cried and dismay grief and anxiety were so blended in her tone that he did not know which prevailed hello Cissy he replied the early bird gets the worm but he misses the fire of the night before why didn't you come to it the fire she ejaculated and with a groan she sank on one of the big parlor chairs that was reposing as naturally in the yard as if it belonged there Hank knew that she was rather an under monster dove girl but her capacity for suffering was greater than that of most demonstrative persons and he surveyed her compassionately hold on to yourself Cissy he said don't mourn we're going to have another house with all the latest improvements where's grandpa and the pup she gasped and pearl ever safe and sound at the melon guns but not up yet I guess it's still early and we had a gay night Hank how did it happen he told her all he knew about it but said he had not talked much to his father for fear of exciting him and our happy home is gone said the little girl at last our bright beautiful home you can't burn up home Cissy she stared at him miserably homes are here he said laying a hand on his heart now you wait and by night you'll have a new first class case for your home right on this spot Hank what are you talking about his eyes twinkled we're going to take the outdoor cure Cissy you see this fine clean barn not near as old as the house was I'm a-going to sweep the hay of this floor arrange this furniture we saved by a bit more have a big table for eating and another for cooking on clear away that Pigpen in the yard and have a small shelter for a cook stove and a covered runway from it to the barn why we live right out here then interrupted to the Jane with a lightening of our face right here and up there in the hayloft I'll fix a bedroom for you and one for per letter a few planks and nails will do it and by the time we want to put in our winter hey will either find a place in the neighborhood for it or else if the new house is pretty well on we'll be able to camp in it and put the hay here in its proper place till the chain actually smiled and we'll have those big doors open all the time continued Hank and drink in lots of fresh air and there won't be a heap of housework to do and you can study and go for rides Hank dear brother she said rubbing her hand over her eyes and I'll clean out the harness room Hank went on and fitted up for a bower for dad where he can sit and weep or smile as he chooses and put an oil stove in lest his old bones get chilly oh he won't said toe the Jane happily this summer is right on us and it is so warm here by the river I don't think he'll need it still I'd like him to know it's there and if he doesn't approve I'll hire a room for him at mrs. melon guns he'll be sure to want to stay with us oh dear how lovely to be out here with the animals I'll close them in they'll have their own quarters wee hours said Hank but this barn has always been kept clean and it's a more decent place to live in than many persons have then best of all camping right here on our own property will enable me to watch the workmen as they put up our new house and if there's any scam being done I'll jump square on to them see here's the clan I couldn't sleep so I got up and sketched it on the shingle the young girl bent her head over the shingle and was soon deep in an animated discussion of the arrangement of rooms in the new house that's the way to do said Hank rising after a time and putting the shingle away if you get a knockdown blow jumper right up and begin to lay about how to get in another at fate I'm not going to as long as there's breath in my body now let us go find some breakfast I'm feverish to begin cooking right here said to the jame looking about her good for you but stop till I find you the wherewithal / Letta did fine in snatching a lot of cooking pots and pans out of the wood house see they're in a heap there but we'll have to board with mrs. melon gone for a few days hold on upon my misfortunes if they're aimed mr. Wei Smith and muffles is my face dirty a little not much she replied it's not to be wondered at don't stop to clean yourself he won't like to wait and she stepped back so that he could go first to greet his employer well sir I take this as the kindness to come here at this early hour said Hank gratefully after mr. Wei Smith had spoken to him I was anxious about your father said mr. Wei Smith did he get a great shock yes sir but I guess it won't hurt him mr. Wei Smith's eyes went roving about the barn and yard he's at a neighbor's sir with the pup by the way sir it was your pup that gave the alarm mr. Wei Smith looked incredulous then delighted in a subdued way that young thing he presently ejaculated yes sir he clawed at father and woke him when handy and he was younger he was always sleepy in heavy the first part of the night but now he's nervous and sleeps late in the morning he's just changed round in his habits I guess he was wakeful and smelt the smoke they say dogs are sensitive to it he's the true son of his father and Hank pointed to muffles who was standing some distance off sniffling at the ruins of the house so the pup woke your father said mr. Wei Smith with immense satisfaction yes sir and it looks to me as if we'd have had a pretty close shave for our lives if it hadn't been for him I'm feared father would have gone for he was right close to the kitchen I might have got out and the girl though were both powerful sleepers I will go and call on your father said mr. Wei Smith but I want to ask you some questions first you will of course rebuild Hank glanced at Tilda James who was gazing affectionately and admiring Li into the merchants face mr. Ray Smith had politely taken off his hat to her and she expected no further recognition she was content to stand and look at him but now at Hanks significant not she quietly slipped away to the back of the garden to interview dodge and grappler as to their experience during the fire poacher and gippy followed her they were both uneasy gippy kept raising his head to catch the smoky odors about him while poacher ran from Tilda Jane to the ruined cellar and back again to perturbed to go and greet the strange dog muffles I didn't want there to know just how hard up I am said Hank in a low voice I've been talking big about building but she would fret if she knew how little I have to build on have you any money at all inquired mr. Wei Smith only five hundred insurance and my salary sir any debts no sir how much money do you need to put up another house I guess I can do it for two thousand five hundred sir I don't want any folder rolls I will lend you two thousand dollars without interest said his employer and when the house is finished I wish to furnish it the furniture to be a present to your adopted sister Hank flushed under his grimy skin that's very handsome in you sir not at all I have money everyone knows it I had a hard time to get it and I belong to a large class of the weld to do who long to be of benefit to young men struggling to get a footing the trouble is we can't find deserving ones once you begin to help a fellow he drops a dead weight on your hands that's the curse of riches to my mind you can't help anyone I don't want your money sir said Hank sturdily except as alone I know that said mr. Wei Smith in his concentrated way if you did want it as a gift you wouldn't get it I have watched you I know that instead of spending your evenings with a set of fast young fellows as you used to do you come home and sit with your old father and try to pick up a little information from books Hank looked sheepish and said nothing you may draw on me at any time for the amount I named said mr. way Smith I wish the money to be paid back in the shape of monthly installments that will be equal to a low house rent say eight dollars a month Hank smiled broadly you'll be a long time getting your money sir I can wait sir said the young man seriously I don't want to gush but on the other end I don't want you to think I'm ungrateful you've never been mean you have the name of being good pay for hard work and I would like to say sir that your assistant bookkeeper won't keep your books any worse for his grateful feelings my father served you faithfully before me and I just like to find anyone cheating you over sent mr. Wei Smith gave him a keen glance was it possible that he did not know of his father's theft of the two hundred and fifty dollars the old man would not tell him of course but could the little girl keep such a secret he looked wonderingly at her as she stood down near the lilacs her dog at her heels the pigeon on her shoulder the two pigs staring inquiringly at her and wonder of wonders his own pet muffles sneaking around the smoking cellar to get to her she must tell her secrets to the animals reflected the surprised men and he whistled to muffles and strode away thoughtfully towards the millennion house most girls of 15 and 16 are chatterboxes what self-control for one so young I say exclaimed Hank running after her when his employer was out of sight misfortunes turned inside out our blessings the young girl moved around deliberately on account the pigeon on her shoulder if the misfortunes ain't your fault brother there's good in them you didn't set the fire it came upon you I'm proud to have you take it right you're braver than I am Hank in a few gleeful sentences told her how Mr Way Smith was going to help him not bad that he added considering that we most burned up his dog if we had he would have known that we didn't mean to set the little girl softly Hank I guess folks are pretty sharp at knowing what we're to blame for and what were not sometimes I guess they are he said in a puzzled way sometimes they don't seem to I say life is a queer thing anyway you take it I suppose it is she said humbly I haven't lived long but I know this much Hank if I make faces that people they may come back at me if I look Pleasant they look Pleasant that's it exclaimed Hank and I'm going to keep on grinning some big writer said that the world is a looking-glass end of chapter 21 [Music] chapter 22 of tilde Jane's orphans this is a librivox recording all librivox recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer please visit librivox.org recording by Jenny McCann tilde Jane's orphans by Marshall Saunders chapter 22 cousin Oona Riley one month later summer had fairly begun the dilson family had been keeping house in the barn for three weeks and the plan had proved to be a great success they had plenty of fresh air they had liberty they had room and Hank declared that the novelty of the experiment pleased them all as much as a trip to foreign parts would have done on this balmy sunny afternoon the big barn doors front and back were thrown wide open the main floor was their sitting room and chairs and tables were arranged neatly against the walls through the open doorways they had a wide extended view the road the river and meadows in front and a rolling farming country at the back grandpa sat and his big rocking chair that the melanson's had dragged through his bedroom window the night of the fire he was not sitting inside the barn but right out in the yard so enamoured had they all become a fresh air that nothing but complete outdoor life seemed to satisfy them his rheumatism was much better and for a part of every day he walked without his crutches using only a cane his gaze was bent dreamily on the Masons who were busy repairing the cellar walls of the old house and adding to them for the new one he was thinking of Hank who had taken his holidays early in the season so that he might be at home as soon as the framework of the house was put up I guess I can trust him with the foundations the young man had said I've sworn the Masons to faithfulness but watch him watch him father when I'm gone there's an awful looseness in business honor I don't know what's the matter with people there are only five men and sis Cosette I'd trust to clear out that cellar and add to it for the new house and that's you and me and honest old jowhiting the lawyer and mr. Tracey the minister and mr. weh smith and we ain't any of us likely to undertake the job Hank had been gone a week in handy Andy had been gone 10 days for mr. Wei Smith had taken him to Boston though grandpa reflected with a comforted feeling in the neighborhood of his heart that mr. Wei Smith had hinted something about bringing him back how he did miss that dog and slow tears formed in his old eyes who would have believed that he Hobart dilson would have at his time of life become so fond of a dumb creature it was because he fancied me thought the old man as if apologizing for his senile affection like begins like the little fella would enjoy this life he's fond of excitement and he likes being outdoors hey ho I wish he'd come back what's the matter grandpa inquired tilde Jane solicitously the old man turned and looked at her as she sat on the barn cell with a pan on her lap paring potatoes for their supper what you doing that for he asked sharply you'll make your fingers black let the girl do it she's gone to town said tilta Jane quietly to town repeated the old man irritably seems to me she's always in town lately what does she do there I don't know replied Tilda Jane in a low voice and her face became red and troubled grandpa was staring suspiciously at her what are you blushing for I don't know said Tilda Jane truthfully is that girl bothering you no not exactly sir she's always been a kind of riddle to me there she comes now Hassan turn up the road as if she owned it exclaimed grandpa why doesn't the girl hurry parla de parler de I say shove those big feet of yours along faster and come here and do these potatoes you ain't hired to GAD but to work Oh sir said tilde Jane protestingly please don't if you knew how kind she is lately don't say a word grandpa sat up straighter in his chair and stared more intently at her kind how kind what has she to do with kindness if you knew how much she thinks of you the little went on in a low voice she's got you the cutest Christmas present a Christmas present for me spluttered grandpa in June and cute I'll make her less cute oh don't sir don't go any further implored Tilda Jane she got it now because it was cheaper on account of the moths you'll be sorry sir she has a good business head in some ways grandpa was in a rage he was really very much upset mentally on account of Hanks absence and then of the pup and though his bodily health was so much improved it did him good to have a mental outburst occasionally he was just preparing to work himself into a tempest of wrath and scorn and was fiercely muttering moths moths what have I to do with moths when two Tilda Jane's great relief a carriage came swiftly up the road past pearl Etta and drove in through their open gateway it's mr. way Smith exclaimed grandpa who had an eye as keen as an eagle's where his former employer was concerned and with astonishing rapidity for one so old he smoothed his perturbed forehead changed his tone and by the time the coachman had pulled up his horses a little way from him his old face was wreathed with smiles for there was handy Andy his beloved pet springing from the Surrey right for grandpa's neck he came and such springing licking barking and tail wagging grandpa had seen only once before namely on the occasion of the return of the dog from his trip with pearl Etta good little boy fine little fellow grandpa murmured stooping and patting him wherever his hand could find a resting place on the slippery back what a little supple jack of a man so so good doggy lie down probably grandpa was the happiest person in sis Cosette there stood the man he admired and revered looking down at him with an absolutely beaming face now he could see plainly how much his dog loved grandpa and the more handy Andy jumped the more ecstatic grandpa became dilson said the merchant suddenly I shall never take that dog from you again except for shows sir exclaimed grandpa odd voice and he gazed at the dog's master in a state of such supreme satisfaction that he became speechless yes I will only take him away for shows repeated mr. Wei Smith he has been to Boston and New York shows and he carried everything before him in the puppy class but large cities don't agree with him and the sea air makes him cough I rushed him back to this inland place by the advice of several first-class veterinaries he is a wonder of a dog but if he is not carefully handled he will be a sick played-out specimen a quiet life and congenial companionship were strongly advised for him and he'll be my dog muttered grandpa at last finding his voice my little dog till I die coz I'll not last long may the Lord bless you sir he added fervently and in a louder key you don't know what this is to me and greatly to his own astonishment and mortification he Hobart dilson began to cry like a baby big tears as big as a baby's rolled down his old cheeks and handy Andy in concern stopped his prancing and lovingly tried to lick them away stop sir grandpa managed to ejaculate irritably get out it's none of your business where's my handkerchief I say tilde can't you find me my handkerchief the little girl silently passed him her own and while grandpa mopped his quivering face handy Andy caught sight of her and springing at her began over again his demonstrations of delight at being again with his own loved family mr. Wei Smith had politely turned away on observing grandpa's emotion and stepping to the Surry he brought out something wrapped in a linen duster why sir exclaimed tilde Jane when he threw back the linen it's another dog mr. Wei Smith smiled it is Andy's half-sister born a little while after him and named by me una Reilly you remember cousin Oona Reilly that lived with handy Andy's mother in Samuel lovers story grandpa had recovered himself and was jealously surveying Tilda Jane what's that sir what's that he asked suspiciously I'm the one Hank read he Andy Andy - come here pup jump on my knee mister wave smith walked toward him again I was just saying dilson that I have another dog here the same stock is handy Andy and with an Irish name for I liked your suggestion about your pet's name have you brought it to us to bring up ask grandpa can we do anything for you about it the dog looks sick she is sick said mr. Wei Smith then he smiled again you know dilson you told me that you would take care of as many dogs as I chose to bring you I said it sir and I'll stick to it grandpa responded emphatically we're living in a barn and we can accommodate a good many and if the barn ain't large enough will hire neighbors and he laughed a shrill happy cackle of a laugh mr. Wace Smith bestowed a grateful glance on him then he said I must tell you this dog's history she was a frail puppy something like Andy but when very young she took a great fancy to a little boy the son of one of the men employed in my kennels in Boston this lad petted her very much and I gave her to him to bring up unfortunately he has just died poor boy though both for his own sake as well as the dogs I did everything to save him and since then Oona will neither eat nor sleep properly she is dying by inches and I brought her here thinking that possibly your little girl and he glanced at Tilda Jane would be kind enough to see if she can rouse her wouldn't she play with handy Andy inquired grandpa he is a kind little dog he is too rough for her in her present state of health replied mr. Wei Smith she should be kept alone that is from other dogs for a while she is as weak as water sit down will you and take her in your arms he said to Tilda Jane Tilda Jane hurried into the barn and was dragging out a chair for mr. Wei Smith when he took it from her and motioned her to sit down herself speak to her he said putting the dog in her lap Tilda Jane looked down at cousin una Reilly she was a smaller dog than Andy and was of a lighter more golden brindle than his while instead of his even white line between the eyes she had a face that was half brindle half white blaze her eyes were beautiful large and full and so pathetic that Tilda Jaynes own eyes grew moist as she looked into them poor doggy she said patting her softly poor doggy you feel sad mr. Wei Smith watching breathlessly saw a flash of interest come in Hoonah sad eyes then she lifted her head and stared into the little girl's face speak to her again he said in a low hurried voice and stepping back a little life is full of trouble isn't it continued till the Jain addressing una as if she were an intelligent human being when I was young like you I had lots of it too but I got over it what I have now doesn't count it isn't the little things that front me it's the big ones I guess you felt pretty bad when that nice boy died too mr. Wei Smith's amazement una pushed her hot feverish muzzle against Tilda Jane's hand then stretching out a pink a very pale pink tongue licked it gratefully you're hot and tired from your journey said the little girl come with me and I will give you some nice cool milk and cuddling the sick dog to her as if she were a baby she got up and went into the barn the two men followed her movements with intense interest they saw her put the dog down on the floor then go in search of a saucer of milk by the time she returned una had staggered to her feet and was licking her lips there honey drink this said Tilda Jane bending over her and mr. Wei Smith to his inexpressible satisfaction saw the weary dog take the milk and then agitate her tail gratefully and stare up into her new friend's face now come go to sleep and sitting down in the new rocking chair that Hank had bought to take the place of the one destroyed in the fire Tilda Jane took the tired animal in her arms and began to rock to and fro and to sing as unconsciously as if she were alone a versified rendering of the old and yet ever interesting tale of mother hubbard and her famous dog it's wonderful murmured mr. weh psmith turning to grandpa I never saw anyone with such a hold over animals grandpa looked down at handy Andy who was reposing in his old place across his knees they say animals ain't got souls he remarked dryly but whatever they've got in the place of them tilde seems to look into right down through their eyes it's affection genuine affection and interest that she possesses said mr. Wei Smith if we all had that for each other for animals for criminals and for little children there would not be so much going astray in the world seems funny for me an old man to say it remarked grandpa but love is a power mr. Wace messiah sympathetically then crept on tiptoe toward tilde Jane una must have been soothed by the tale of the afflictions of the legendary hubbard dog for she had fallen into a sound sleep is her flesh twitching whispered mr. Wei Smith with the concentrated interest of a doctor surveying a patient tilde Jane shook her head she hasn't twitched Circe and she dropped off Capital he muttered she hasn't had even a cat nap without starting up these last three days I saw there was only this chance for her so I hurried her up here do you want her to be my little dog for a while sir asked tilde Jane yes if you will be so kind keep her quiet and away from the other dogs poachers down by the river with the pigs he goes there these warm days and gippy is asleep in that corner he don't see as well as he did and I guess he won't bother her I'll keep both eyes on her sir why do you think dogs like you asked mr. Wei Smith's searchingly tilde Jane's dreamy glance went out through the big back barn doors to the farms in the distance when I was a tiny girl sir in an orphan asylum there was one lady bored I loved she used to sit down by me and put her arm around me she didn't say soft words much but I felt something when she was near I guess it was cuz she really and truly liked all little children if she hadn't been delicate in state of I never have run off I guess she would have stood by me animals are most as smart as we are sir about knowing who likes them mr. Highsmith nodded thoughtfully and saying goodbye to her and to Grandpa walked toward his carriage to Tilda jeans surprise he stopped on the way to greet pauletta who had quietly entered the yard some time before and had seated herself on the wooden platform the little girl stopped rocking the dog for a minute what was mr. Weissman saying to pauletta to make her hang her head and blush either with pleasure or shame end of chapter 22 recording by Jenny McCann chapter 23 of Tilda Jane's orphans this is a librivox recording all librivox recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer please visit librivox.org recording by Gloria begum in Summerville South Carolina tilda Jane's orphans by Marshall Saunders chapter 23 / letta puzzles her friends it was late that same night Tilda Jane and pearl Etta had seen grandpa safely in his Bower as Hank called the harness room it was really a very neat little bedroom now and the spectacle of Grandpa tucked in bed with his beloved pup at his feet was so effecting to Tilda Jane that she gave a squeal of rapture and ran to embrace again and again the young dog who was so sleepy from his travels that he impatiently opened his mouth and bid at her to bid her be gone let him alone little girl said grandpa he snappy like most folks when their out good night and pleasant dreams - you and pearl Etta said Tilda Jane softly Oh ad her leaded grandpa and / Letta he said crossly now get out both of you / Letta who stood in the doorway holding the lantern in her hand and not glowering at him as she used to even when she was doing him some favor but now benevolent and patient and expression uttered a pleased and surprised good night sir then led the way to the latter by which she and tilde Jane ascended to their respective sleeping places grandpa had his big Bell by him as he used to have in the burned house that he was so well now that he never had occasion to ring it in the night tilde Jane found una sleeping peacefully on the bed in her sweet smelling room The Loft was pretty well empty of hay now but the odor remained and whether it was owing to that or to the good supper the little creature had taken she was certainly reposing well and with none of the twitchings of flesh that mr. Wei Smith so much dreaded tilde Jane undressed said her prayers and was soon sleeping soundly beside her new pet while gippy reposed in his box in the corner poacher the guardian of the family in Hanks absence laid downstairs by the front barn door that had been barred for the night you'll get plenty of air through the windows at night Hank had said before he went away don't leave the doors open some might sneak in and frighten you the whole family slept but pearl Etta she was wide awake and leaning far out the window in her end of the loft stared out at the road faintly gray and dusty in the moonlight and at the Silver Line of the river beyond her thoughts however were not on the beauty of nature as tilde Jane's would have been pearl Etta was too material to experience heartfelt and comforting raptures over a sunset or moonrise she was rejoicing in the possession of a secret a most important and substantial sort of secret and with irrepressible chuckles she gazed down into the cellar of the new house where the Masons were carrying on their work of repair I could fix them up better nor they're planning to be fixed she muttered gleefully if they'd let me they'll have to do the squar thing though who's that coming a man as I am Alive it was true as she stood leaning out the window in soliloquizing a man had entered their yard and was swinging up at a good pace toward the barn door he was carrying a suitcase in his hand and as her eye fell on it her expression of alarm changed to one of cunning and relief it's him she said and if little tilde Jane don't wake up and poke in I'll have some fun a badger in him to even up for the time he badgered me and slyly withdrawing her head from the window she took up the lighted Lantern beside her and went stealthily down the ladder to the barn floor the man was knocking softly hello there hello didn't I see a light let me in who's a Malkin asked Paletta in sepilok tones it's me replied a well-known voice and who's me she asked with a grin of reminiscence hey there You pearl Etta was the reply you think you're awful funny don't you open this door and let me in get out you she replied with a soon Drath the boss of this ranch is away he told me to stand guard as I was the biggest said he par Letta you're to let no one in at night and if thieves come mind you stand in front of dad and tilde and let him hit you first Oh swallow that nonsense said Hank impatiently and open this door do you hear Pearl Etta was so convulsed with laughter that she had to set her lantern on the floor then composing herself she seized pocher by the neck as he was throwing himself against the door in transports of delight your voice she said gruffly is like the boss's but I mistrust you he's off on a fishing trip we've got valuables in here a sewing machine and nice black furniture and a new dog with a million etc etc now look here peretta said hank in a rage if you don't open this door I'll knock it down you can't do it she chuckled go away mister robber and thief honest folks is is in bed and rogues as a runnin Hank in exasperation started such a pounding on the door that pearl Etta seizing the lantern led toward the ladder and climbed to her perch in the hayloft Tilda Jane awakened by the noise felt confusedly for una who was yelping with alarm then she began to crawl out of bed her first thought for grandpa suddenly the lantern was thrust through the curtains of her doorway and pearl Etta gasping with laughter ejaculated it's Hank go let him in Tilda Jane with the hasty pat on ona's back threw on some clothing swung herself down the ladder with a celerity born of much going up and down and was soon on barring the door for Hank who was tired and in more of a temper than she had ever before seen him in where is that idiot that's simpleton that witless lout he cried as he stamped into the barn if I'm spared till morning show March oh hey dear you don't mean pearl Etta exclaimed Tilda Jane in dismay don't say anything against her wait till I tell you how good she's been good she's a beast a demon said Hank wildly I never did like her I hate her now to shut a fellow out of his own house in the dead of night did she try to keep you out asked Tilda Jane Oh Hank isn't she waggish she's trying to pay you back from that trick you got off on her when she came back after running away with puppy and the pigeon how dare she spluttered Hank I'll teach her good London here that man roaring and that bell ringing yes sir I'm coming hurry Hank hurry I hate to have him worked up and Tilda Jane lantern in hand flew toward the harness room where Grandpa and handy Andy were both yelling at the top of their lungs to the accompaniment of the dinner bell the barn is on fire the puppet I will burn alive shouted grandpa with one leg out of bed help me someone oh I feel so feeble get back sir get back cried Hank dashing in before Tilda Jane the barn ain't on fire and ain't going to be and you know it you just want to mite of attention get into bed there's a lady coming your son will wrap you up and he affectionately bundled his father back to his warm nest trying meanwhile to ward off attacks from the relieved and delighted Andy who was trying to devour him with caresses grandpa submitted blissfully to his tucking in he had his son back and the pup in addition now he was an entirely happy man still there was one drop bitterness in his cup now that he thought of it you talk of a lady son he mumbled with concern you ain't married B you married ejaculated Hank scornfully I'm pretty daring but I doesn't bring another female into this nursery which is alive with them already how do you suppose Tilda and pearl Etta would greet a lady Andy get down I say sir I'm glad you've got your dog back and he's riotous to see me it's kind of cheering to have something show joy if it's only dumb critters and he caressed poacher who is affectionately licking his dusty shoes as he could reach no other part of his person only dogs and my old dad think anything of poor Hank I guess you're tired brother said Tilda Jane calmly you know how much pearl Etta and I think of you pearl Etta that witch exclaimed grandpa who now that his fit of temper and fright was over was beginning to get the drift of things and to understand that Tilda Jane was the lady Hank had referred to what's the matter with that girl she's powerful cheeky lately seems as if a new spirit had got into her I wouldn't call it cheeky sir suggested Tilda Jane mildly she's out more but she hasn't been cheeky in the house not since Hank left til tonight when he came home so I'm the one that's upsetting her am I said Hank resentfully well miss pearl Etta King dope will find another girl what made you come home so soon boy ask grandpa your timing up you've only been gone a week I guess I got homesick said Hanks sulkily beds were hard and rooms were stuffy and fish scarce wherever I went and food not fit to eat I got dis Pepsi begun to hate everyone and thinks I those Masons are fooling dad about the cellar I'll bet and so I thought I'd come home and this is the Welcome I get Tilda Jane why don't you go to bed instead of standing there like a sick ghost good night then she sent sweetly sleep well brother and grandpa I'll leave the lantern I can go up the ladder in the dark as she climbed upward she muttered I never knew before that it made a man so mad to be locked out of his own barn but I guess he'll be all right in the morning y una and she greeted the delighted little dog who had slipped off the bed and was waiting for her in the dark at the top of the ladder is that your soft tongue licking my hand I thought it must be Gibby good girl II I won't leave you again her philosophical prediction with regard to Hank came true he was alright in the morning and acted as if he were quite ashamed of his surliness the night before he overwhelmed Tilda Jane with attentions and even through a forgiving glance toward pauletta who was warily keeping him the background pon my appetite he said feeling glee as he pushed his chair back from the breakfast table sat in the middle of the barn floor I ain't tasted a meal like that since I left home and it's simple enough - you're a regular homebody said grandpa whose delight at having him back was too strong to be concealed your mother was he added in a lower key you take it from her Hank looked quickly at him his father rarely spoke of the mother dead now so many years ago that Hank barely remembered her I guess she was a pretty good woman weren't she dad he said I just call up having her laid her hands on my head she was a good woman said grandpa and his old head dropped on his breast then raising it he said keenly and I for one don't want to see no other in her place while I'm alive Hank smirked at handy Andy who was going round underneath the table untying everybody's shoelaces dad you've got a wholesale fear of my getting married but don't you fret I ain't likely to set no daughter-in-law over you this is your house as long as you live if you married Hank said tilde Jane wistfully would I have to leave no siree said the young man striking the breakfast table with his fists yes she would cried pearl Etta advancing from the back of the barn and speaking in a cross and surly voice Hank looked her up and down with mingled amusement and disdain then he said and please who would support you two babes in the wood I'd do it replied pearl Etta drawing up her big frame majestically watan pursued Hank with twinkling eyes money responded pearl Etta irregularly then she withdrew into the shade of a clump of lilacs by the back barn door dad said Hank turning to his father what a pickle you've got me into with these young females on account of your talk of marriage and I ain't got no more idea of such a thing than you have I guess you're a free man said grandpa tartly you ain't beholden to no females about what you'll do or not do I ain't beholden said Hank but mark me it ain't wise nor agreeable to stir up any female beyond teething age let sleeping dogs lie is a good saying and I add let sleeping womankind lie too till they choose to wake themselves now I'm a going to interview the Masons out there then we'll trot down by the river to talk over my troubles with the pigs I see they've led poacher down already my it's queer not to have to hurry off to the mill fine to you don't enjoy rest unless you have worked and you don't properly enjoy work unless you rest a bit once and so often guess I'll take milkweed and getting up he went to the door of her stall opened it and allowed her to follow him like a dog down to the river / Leto was still sulking at the back of the barn Tilda Jane was smiling sedately and after calling to Hank walk up and down the willow path brother I'll run down and see you as soon as I finished the dishes she hurriedly began to clear off the breakfast table a short time later Hank with poacher at his heels was pacing up and down the riverbank his hands were in his pockets he was whistling cheerily watching meanwhile milkweed who was munching the sweet meadow grass and the pigs who were in their favourite mud baths near a tangle of alders hearing an answering whistle he looked up and saw Tilda Jane stepping carefully down the bank holding Luna under her arm Hank she said when she got near him will you send poacher to play with the pigs I want Yuna to walk about a spell absquatulate skedaddle make tracks said Hank to the hound who laying his ears back went to join dodge and grappler the two pigs received him with amiable grunts and even climbed out of their bath to touch him with their snouts friendly fashion now deer paced up and down behind us said Tilda Jane to the small timid dog and she set her on the well-worn path by the river una with ears clapped tight to her head tail between her legs and quivering with excitement and anxiety followed closely her nose close to Tilda Jane's ankles seeing that she would take no harm from the exercise Tilda Jane turned to Hank brother I can't tell you how glad I am to have you back I've been so upset no upset about pearl Etta since you went away that I didn't know what to do what's the matter with the girl asked Hank carelessly why Hank she's getting money somewhere lots of it money he ejaculated stopping short yes brother and she goes to town nearly every day I wish she'd tell us what she's doing why didn't you ask her I did brother I said pearl Etta I'm bothered about you is everything all right about what you're doing what did she say she said time would tell you say she has lots of money how much five dollars five dollars exclaimed Tilda Jane rolling her eyes towards some men who were passing in a boat on the river why she's just bought grandpa a fur-lined coat that cost I don't know how much I know she said they took $30 off coz she got it out of season they don't like to pack their furs away now at the beginning of summer on account of moths she bought dad a fur-lined coat blurted Hank taking his hands out of his pockets and looking at them as searchingly as if he might find written on them an explanation of the mystery why you can't buy a decent fur-lined coat less than 90 or $100 and usually they're a heap more well Hank she's got money left for I saw a roll of bills sticking out of her purse it wouldn't shut and she had a piece of twine round it and brother she added shamefacedly she's given me something too what is it a party dress she said it's pink silk and awful pretty but too bold for me folks would stare a pink silk dress repeated Hank why how you talk and what has she got for me nothing she said she asked her lawyer what to buy for you and he said you are a young man and if any presence were to be made you should give them to her not she to you well I be jiggered said Hank in utter mystification her lawyer and who is he I want to know mr. Joseph whiting old Joseph whiting the smartest and honest ass lawyer in town and a Howlin ristic rat you don't mean to say she's been to him yes Hank she showed me his name at the foot of a letter signed big and full with a lot of curly Q's at the end as Hank excitedly yes brother just like snakes that's old whiting signature I see it a dozen times a week at the mill but what under the Sun would he be writing to pearl Etta for now Hank remarked tilde Jane firmly pearl Etta ain't I mean hasn't been stealing she isn't that kind I was afraid of it at first then I thought what a goose I was pearl Etta is good I feel it course she is said Hank kindly she's a regular but the girl is honest enough you can tell by her eye I guess I know what it is Tilda she's come into some money there ain't a soul in this town would give her a dime I expect that's it said Tilda Jaynes soberly yet at the same time I feel kind of uneasy about her she isn't spending it right she's like a child Hank can't you do something is she doing her work all right yes except when she goes to town a lot well we hired her to do certain work if she does it we can't complain if she goes too much tell her you can't spare her her money is her private concern I can't meddle that ain't business but I'd returned the pink silk tell her you told me about it and I ain't willing for you to keep it she'll feel bad can't help that she ain't going to make a ninny of you - do you suppose grandpa will take the coat wait till she offers it he'll settle her pretty quick but if Hank she's awful good to make such presence poor she is but dad and I ain't willing to fatten off any poor goose cap like pearl Etta let her keep her money for herself she ain't likely got much you hold on a bit I'll keep my eyes open and I warned you I'll make some discoveries in pearl Etta's direction end of chapter 23
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How the Overclocking leagues work at HWBOT
in this video we're going to explain you how the overclocker rankings work at hwbot to do so let's first check out the overclocker rankings we go to the rankings submenu in the navigation bar and then click overclockers ranking on this page you can find a whole bunch of information first off we have the five different overclocker groups we have the elite extreme Enthusiast novice and rookie the main division is actually based on cooling so the elite and the extreme both use extreme cooling such as liquid nitrogen the elite are those who do it semi-professionally or are actually are getting paid to overclock whereas the extreme you are are just the people that buy their own hardware and enjoy extreme overclocking the Enthusiast group or the people that overclock with ambient cooling are divided in three different groups the rookies the noice and the enthusiasts the main division here is the amount of time they signed up at h but the rookies only sign up for 3 months or less whereas the novice uh sign up for one year or less and then the Enthusiast sign up for one year or more scrolling down the page we find the league leaders and then the League rankings in this one table you can compare yourself to any overclocker in the world so no matter whether you're an elite or a rookie you can find everyone in this one table however if you just want to find your own uh ranking or your own uh your own League just click on any of the buttons so for example I click on the novice ranking button here and I can find all the novice overclockers if I'm a novice overclocker and I want to see how I will be how I'll perform in the Enthusiast ranking I can also click the Enthusiast ranking button and then it will include a table with both the Enthusiast and the novice overclockers as you can see everyone has a certain amount of points and to to figure out what the points are we have to go back to our own profile so just go up and look at my own profile on this profile we can find a tab called points if we click that we can find an overview of all the benchmark scores that generate points uh for our league standings so we have a tab here called Global points and we have a tab called Hardware points and these are the two main tabs that you need for uh for figuring out how much points and which Benchmark results are generating points for your account so on the hardware points we can see that I have 20 scores that are generating points for the league total uh my best score is actually generating 49.6 points which is uh which is quite nice on the global point stab we see the same but there is only 15 scores that generate points that is that is how the algorithm works so don't worry if you only see 15 here if we go back up we can see in our in our profile overview that I'm currently 106th out of 41,000 members worldwide and 45th in the elite league on the right hand side I can see exactly how many League points I have so if I go back to the the elite leak by clicking on the on the leak here I can see my position within within the elite leak here if we go back to the to the overview I can also scroll down like this so I have to go to position 106 which is pretty far down the rankings to find myself right here I'm actually ranked below the number one novice which is interesting anyway I hope that you now understand how the H leaks works and good luck
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PodChatLive: Episode 30 with Seth O'Neill [Achilles Tendinopathy]
right so this correctly cracking episode episode 30 really really pleased to invite our colleague and friend dr. Seth O'Neill first time I've spoken to him since he's completed his PhD actually felt like he was doing it forever I'm sure it felt like it to him as well PhD in Achilles PhD in Achilles tendon obviously physiotherapist private practitioner university lecturer at Leicester he's got it all going on lots of teaching lecturing all around the world don't know how he has time for it all so thank you so much for sparing us an hour to talk to us about Achilles Achilles tendinopathy or maybe tendonitis bringing it yeah yeah being straight into the opening the opening question which is probably the one you get asked the most which is terminology tendinopathy tendinitis given our current knowledge our current understanding sort of at a cellular level inflammation versus degeneration etc a bit like the arguments and discussions we have around plantar fasciitis and what's the current best terminology what's the current understanding regarding inflammation / degeneration yeah tricky debate it depends which there's two counts really and I think what happens on certain social media is it gets by kata mised into it's either degeneration only or it's a inflammation only and of course like most arguments the tree is not either end of the spectrum that reaches somewhere in the middle that it's largely a degenerative process but it has inflammatory chemicals involved within that process because it's a cellular process that's active it's not just this quiet wearing out of tissue it's an active process and as part of that there's certain cytokines that are released that trigger cells to respond in a certain way so Tina sites in this sort of instance and they respond by doing inappropriate things like producing the wrong type of pretty glycans that the wrong type of glucosamine awakens the water-loving chemicals within tendons that then sucking moisture Enda with you attendance and those become structurally weak as a process like it's neither but he's both if that makes sense it's not like information we learn about at university when we do our physio courses podiatry courses so it's not prostaglandin driven information as far as we can tell it's more of failed healing process and there's been some recent publications sort of looking at that and one of them was a recent one in which Jenner sports med which is a biggie so from a scientists perspective it definitely involves information from a clinicians perspective I don't think it's always that useful to consider it as a purely inflammatory process because the effects on patients is often detrimental if you ask the patients when they're in front of you what do you think's wrong I've got an inflamed tendon what should you do with that inflamed tendon I should rest there until his batter okay that's the floor so we can educate them and still use information that's not a problem but I will tend to talk about degeneration with an active process just my bias where they're really I don't think it matters too much exactly how we go with it I just share a quick slide just to show you sort of one of the sort of discussions we've had recently on it and it's really just looking at sort of come on for the wrong one always good when they gave me the wrong one and so it's always good when they're everything goes wrong as up they go so you've got degeneration of information and there's evidence for both components like I said the information is not proper but prostaglandin driven information it involves certain cells that are active and they're active in be modeling tissue and getting rid of damaged tissue so where do we tie that up but have a read of the taking paper BDSM this year which is the one on the right-hand side of the screen there so top paper binding complex with very little time for science superb so just to clarify yeah it does beautifully beautifully just to clarify said in your in your medical notes tendinopathy is what you write absolutely outright dancing the knocks a year since tendinopathy is the correct term tendinopathy offer fee means a problem with the tissue so you could have been neuropathy and myopathy any of those sort of opposite you want in really what we're talking about is a problem with the tendon therefore it is tendinopathy describes pain and disability related to a tendon and then whether it's inflammatory or degenerative could really only be determined by histology so you have to take a sample and analyze it in a lab and of all the old studies that have been done the O'Shea degeneration new modern advancements in inflammatory markers and inflammatory cells have allowed various inflammatory components to be identified in beefs and studies and that as part of the reason we see this difference with it as well super great we'll move on then so a question came in which I really like and it was can you ask Seth about his assessment of Achilles tendinopathy but what I'm gonna do I hope the person you ask this question doesn't mind too much if I'm actually going to slightly change that question - what does your assessment of posterior ankle pain look like because I'm sure it's the same for you as it is for all of us and a lot of people that come in and they say I've got an Achilles tendon problem yeah doesn't always turn out to be an Achilles tendon problem so I give it I think if we widen this this question it gives us a chance to talk about differentials so someone presents with posterior ankle pain or what what sort of we're sitting in clinic with you what can we expect to see while you're assessing that a lot of talking to be honest huge amounts of subjective examination that the key really is in the subjective so I'd spend a long time finding out how it started how it triggered how the behavior of the pain has been since it started what activities flare it up which is my settle it really primarily to see if it's got a typical behavior of a tendon because that would start to normally set alarm bells ringing if it doesn't have a typical behavior pattern of increasing stress on the tendon something might walk in after a long period running hurts a bit more and then hop in might hurt even more in some instances or more quickly so we're looking for that primary to start with and then what we're looking for is the sites of symptoms being one of the best indicators so the most sensitive and specific mess that exists is where the pain is so you ask the patient to point to the pain if they point to their Achilles or if they squeeze the Achilles and that's their indication then it's a good chance it will be the Achilles if they point near the Achilles into takers triangle into sort of tip post into peroneal tendons then we need to be considering other options so realistically yet the initial presentation of where the symptoms are in your subjective is the critical bit and then during the objective it's very simple it'll be a case of clearing the ankle joint active and passive movements to the ankle joint involving some combined movements to try and squash various aspects the particular things that all mimic these problems that really stand out and the more common entities that I'll see will be ostrich owner or posterior impingement of the ankle everyone to turn their as accessory so Laius but they're rare they're not very common at all and they'll of course sometimes they're invisible so when in the cacus Triangle area and also all nerve issues as well there's a few others like tip post and peroneal tendon sort of disorders or subtitler doing disorders for insertion or and calcaneal stress fractures but their pains won't be further on the side i've had a couple of interesting cases recently of that as a lady you've actually had the latest shock wave therapy done on our achilles for an assertion also the last thing and when she came to see me my pain still the same but the consultant said it's all better now on the scan and her symptoms were blatantly around the calcaneal and nothing to do the Achilles had never had been and it seemed to be sort of tabled joint really bitter symptomatic bit and sends her back for MRI and hopes of total joint changes that seem to be in keeping with her symptoms so symptoms tend to stay specific is one of the big things if symptoms of widespread I don't see widespread foot pain and one of the arguments with a lot of the pain scientists is pain becomes widespread that sensitize when you've got a long term musculoskeletal condition like back pain you just don't see it in the foot and ankle pain stays specific too often where the structure is that may be involved it doesn't seem to with unless they develop Crips say chronic regional pain syndrome or seelix atrophy whatever we want to term it as so one of the big markers is really isolate the pain and the pain will be pretty much easy to replicate when you push on that tissue stretch that tissue or load that tissue so normal examination if it looks like the Achilles when we've done that would involve London hospital tests we show you go for if you want painful arcsine of the Achilles to differentiate between piratinha and the actual main tendon itself and then I'd always do a straight leg raise with a sore nerve and active your nerve bias to exclude them because they're really hard sometimes to differentiate so I've always test it and then it would be calf capacity testing so I'd always use in the clinic strength testing obviously the University we've got some funky gears there but in the clinic we use Nintendo Wii physio meter software so it's a Danish sort of software company things while making University I thinking this and they've developed or albergue University I get the right University where they developed it otherwise having trouble and we'd always measure strength because obviously my PhD data was on cough strength and it's massively down in injured achilles spoke versus healthy controls from based on our data so it always ascertain what it is to show the patient what we need to do and why we need to do it and I would probably stand them if I've got the scanner with me as well but wouldn't be everybody getting scanned we don't need to scan everybody but we should be suspicious in cases where they're not responding to normal interventions and not proving the only the things that are then is my differentials if we decide it's a tenderness saw theories that saw itself is what's wrong with the Achilles so para teen and mid portion Achilles tendinopathy insertion an Achilles tendinopathy or the potential for a variety of splits and tears that can occur within the tendon or some of the related tissue like the fash occur or and they're difficult to diagnose without imaging so if they were suspected then we might want to move on to other imaging and I'd only be suspicious of those if the onset was so a person walking along or running along sudden onset of pain I consider that a tears of strong possibility and they seem to you know experience do less well with heavy loading initially have to be a bit more cautious beautiful perfect then I mean as with previous guests previous episodes regardless of what we're talking about it generally comes down to history history history history and then physical so before you even reach for like you say the the imaging the things that the patient's come in expecting in pretty much 90% by the way there in your mind at least already the question that you touched on it there but a question that came in was about imaging so I think the main question was what and when so what kind of imaging and when should we do it you sort of touched on the weapon then but can we talk a bit about when you would reach for the ultra step when altra etcetera okay differential diagnosis and you suspected the tissue might be a play then the MRI allows you to look at the other tissue I'm not an ultrasonic refer I'm not trained in ultrasound in any way shape or form other than quite a lot of experience with UTC scans so I wouldn't be happy to French in some of the joint disorders from the tendon of my clinical should have done that anyway so if I really thought it was posterior ankle joint I would be then considering them are I at that stage just sort of confirm in obviously and ospry going on we didn't talk about posterior impingement we'd normally just a passive heel flick so you force them into a plantar flex position to compress the post over the ankle joint and we've had it a couple of times with some elite athletes where they've been told they've got a in a kill expanding disorder and can you do a scan selfies and you scan them and go yeah whereabouts is soar after you've just been the skanks you've been asked to scan them and I say stop there I said when's it hurt and and so I hurts when I point my toes that's not your Achilles there's no load on it when you do that it shouldn't hurt or wouldn't normally hurt anyway and then when you do a passive test and actually force them into the flanks of action you if you produce that pain and thank you very much : is that the same spot and push deeper around the posterior of the ankle and normally reproduces well so there the other bits just - don't mind if you then imaging ultrasound is something at the best because it allows you to identify the collagen tissue itself and see what structures like given the choice my bias is ultrasound tissue characterization I'm not sponsored by them they need any money from them but they're the actual technique yourself is fantastic for allowing us to examine a tendon and quantify the tendon structure and obviously over the last few years or less that we've done quite a lot of work with it we've got quite a few studies this year in the tendon conference coming up using UTC as well so it allows lots to be monitored acute and chronic loading as well as their treatments your interventions for these so yeah watch this space we'll have a few bits coming but the intervention studies still a bit of time away in terms of show yeah so UTC ideally MRI to differentiate but ultrasound freaking get hold of it especially if you think there's a tear right so cake you do like you're gonna say something I I am I'm just sorry I'm just no no Karen I've got a question there's a question come in relevant to that but I'm just trying to let me just share it Seth so you can read it I've just seen it as long isn't it here from but it's relevant all of it can you see the quit the question from Gareth mill near see it so I'm saying yeah so rather me read it like yes Gareth so says them we should be may be cautious when we're looking at tendon imaging and relating to the presenting problem because we know that there's a bit of a mismatch between imaging and and symptoms interesting I'm just gonna get up a little slide I've got from a recent orchid bidding on this exact subject because the image is sometimes taken out of context so I offer the news although it seems to keep going back to the original site here we go though I often use this slide and what we've got is we've got two systematic reviews both published in british journal sports med and one shows us that structure is clearly a risk factor for developed Intendant symptoms than the noxee in the next season in elite athletes and that was Shaun McAuliffe's then live in Ireland he's now in hospital and the risk ratio was 7.3 as you can see up here so that's the biggest known risk factor for developing Achilles tendinopathy and that tell us is it's clearly important but on the other hand and we've also got a systematic review you Danny by year and drew it out showing us that structure doesn't correspond to paint and people use this to say it's irrelevant we shouldn't look at it or it's clearly not it's clearly the best predictor or the biggest risk factor we have at the moment not necessarily the best predictor but a big risk factor and we have to be careful with interpreting this because people are relating previous MRI and ultrasound studies to their symptoms and the problem with those studies are there you can't quantify the tendon structure now if you can't quantify the structure how are you expecting to measure change how do you confirm you've got exactly the same spot and there's only UTC that can do that and there is one UTC study within this particular systematic review but there's no information about how they quantified the tendon how they analyzed it within that paper it's a reverse route that do the work in Holland but they didn't identify how they're using it and I think how understanding of UTC's alter the lot and certainly the work we've been doing shown that how you analyze it is quite critical so that's part of it but then on top of that there's a recent study that's come out and showing that actually structure and function clearly are associated structure and pain or not and never would have been if you only dumped like he's going to teach courses is you track your thumbnail in a door you've got a big black nail big blue blister underneath it and your pain and your structure match up for the first day three weeks later you've still got a black nail your structures knackered but what structural pain zero it's back to normal why Oh collagen is still bad or keratin whatever it's made of you guys can tell me that one it's still bad but actually it's it essentially a case of the bio chemicals have altered and so when we image what stage are we image you know where's that in relation to tissue healing and without long limbs even on scans of people we have no bloody idea so I think we've really misinterpreted scanning and people haven't engaged the brains when they've done scanning in the past to really get to grips with what we're looking at and when we talk about the tendon remodeling one of those fives I use is what might happen to the tendon so your assumption is that the tendons normally nice and small but let's say it's like this and when you get diseased it goes big and fat like this okay so these haven't been altered these are the same pixel sizes within this this is how bigger Disney's tendon this top one here okay and the red bits is degraded area that and then a perfect section so that might happen to people and they may get large this is what Jill cooks works and Shane with some sorry Shawn knocking they've shown the tendons get bigger and this is where the donor and the whole theory comes from but the problem is not all tendons when you rehab them then we'll shrink back to normal size some get bigger some get smaller and if you look at the mean outcome well the mean does it change because some have gone up and some have gone down we have to now work and so the means no change but there's maybe a group that responds by adapting to get bigger this group now I'm just showing you is so disease actually it probably just needs to develop a new healthy tissue around there but this group here might recover and that might repair and it might shrink back so I think we need to consider things in a lot more detail would basically be my advice at the moment we don't have definitive knowledge on it so yeah it's all right no that makes sense Seth we had a quick question put in which is good timing really from Priya and she was asking about the about managing load as part of the treatment and and one of the questions that came in beforehand was was about you know how do we manage tendinopathy and clearly anyone who's been reading anything recently knows that the rest is the enemy and load the right kind of load is king can we can you run us through load management and what that really means so a load let you know load and tissue capacity and and by all means feel free to sort of break off and talk separately about mid portion and insertion with if it's appropriate to do so yeah I think you can probably love them both together I'm just getting up a little slide again just to help with it I think you've got to understand what we mean by load as well when it comes to tendons and the Achilles the the dates around there at the moment facility from rich Willie it's been in states with runners and their inverse dynamics our patients are suggesting loads of around 4 to 5,000 Newtons intra tendon force it's also been measured with indwelling force gauges in the past by camy verts ELISA relatively small and there may be some problems with some of the invest I know makes we appreciate that many studies are now showing this type of force now that happens every single step sure and running and we're talking really the Achilles problems are predominantly endurance runners so that's why I'd use this data so if is six times body weight that's a lot of load if we do a bit of math and I know you've seen this slide before but we have to understand what this relates to a steady run 50 minutes for slow cadence 250 steps ok so more if the cadence is higher equate to an accumulative force of around 1.7 million kilos per leg but the given distance 10k so once we start to understand that load we can start seeing well the tendon doesn't normally withstand huge loads therefore we've got to rehabilitate it to expand those loads and patients to grasp that and often physios particularly in the past have used crappy exercises like thera-band exercises for the car to spend in the net so you sit on a bag do some thera-band exercises it's not going to do anything they have to be weight-bearing from they want shift in their body mass up and down and if they lift in their body mass that probably get into somewhere between 2 to 4 times body weight through the Achilles and then itself according to some fate of us out there at the moment which is the slide before here so this is basically doing exactly that in unweighted individuals looking at concentric and eccentric loads by jonathan rhys and basically there's a group of individuals that seems to have low load about twice body weight this is in those individuals and a group that has high load for a given task just going up and down as a heel raise so this will equate to about 4 times body weight for simple he arrays intra tendon force so it's pretty big loans small so they got some potential flaws obviously but it's support to the vector great actually if coach interrupts earlier just just just so tracking a little bit just looking at that graph and i i've often talked about there was i think that occurring with the authors but they looked at the length of the calcaneus so they're looking at the lever arm of the Achilles insertion to the ankle joint but yeah that lever arm varied by I guess over a centimeter so with could that account for the differences in that graph yeah I mean the difference in this graph is by mechanics somewhere so see their differences or or it's the case of muscular differences yeah yeah you could speculate those with the longer calcaneus a longer lever on have massively less loads to jazz direction so they're not they're less risk for an Achilles problem and now I used to think it was less risk but I'm not sure now because obviously if they've got less load they're accustomed to less load and that's fine if I know they're accustomed to highlight this should because I used to think exactly the same thing and think ah this is this is key we can identify these groups we can go on and look at them but I think with all risk factors for Achilles tendinopathy what it comes down to is actually training load so Tim gallops research later looking at acute chronic loads the risk factors there if they increase their acute chronic ratio excessively then basically they're more likely to break down if they've got the known risk factor more stress less stress we calf muscle pronated foot whatever we want to talk about so risk factors themselves will never predict an injury because you need to increase the stress on it so if I take this diseased mid portion like I showed you just now with the bad tendon if their training load stays the same they never get a sore tendon and that's why we find out normalities in healthy people they don't do enough to make the tendon undergo extensive loads and they're never going to make it sore but if we took those same individuals and said right you're gonna run a marathon next year we're putting you all on the same training program what would really happen that and I think honestly we'd start to see a lot more breakdown that way and ethically we can potentially do that study but we need a big cohort of runners to actually make it work yeah but I think it also complicating that as the assumption as those with a shorter calcaneus the calf muscles have to work harder but yet in reality they are actually more economical as runners because of the energy return issue so so the the hyper the hypothetical issue is not matched by the actual evidence and the reality because of the whole issue of energy return in those people and then adding in the the workload ratios like you're talking about yeah it's yeah and the workload is obviously huge that the cops team exists the akiles is we've stand in these loans then the CAF's having to generate forces to shock absorbed at and this is again where our work sort of of interest I think where we've sort of shown that basically I sustained on the wrong slides for some silly reason so sorry to zooms through like this but if you look at the muscle function and talk about sort of the different muscles so this is the first mention of cilia see and I just want that I will notice by the winner accordingly they the last is obviously pretty damn big when we look at sort of simple cross sectional area and by itself for vertical fall it's the most important lower limb muscle generates the majority of the force and when we look at if we believe in some of this rectified EMG data to body weight percentages then we're talking around seven to eight times body weight by Silius by itself gastroc being so three times and that's pretty much for most runs P so it's producing big forces and that's why the Achilles can withstand big forces and this is why we think strength is of critical nature to Achilles tendinopathy that if the muscle functions well it's shock absorbs protects the Achilles if he doesn't function well then actually the tendon ends up absorbing more energy in this case that's hysteresis and you guys know hysteresis far better than most videos there as well so and we're doing a study at the moment that's looking at this so we've just done 5k runs using thermal imaging looking at how the Achilles surface the skin warms up as a consequence it's in for the tendon conference has been accepted for it but the data we've got at the moment really only healthy controls we've got about five injured bike and we're trying to see if the injured folks are different to healthy controls and we're collecting a load of room later as well easy Imran describes to look at the actual loads through the during the run and then trying to sort of look back at sort of how it equates to attendant temperature changes but we think that the temperature changes are critical and obviously when we look at the structure of the Achilles it's a complex policing anyway and we've got anatomical variants within it so this is a dominant work it's lovely paper that the green bit is the acai Laius and you can see how it rotates towards the insertion down here at the bottom this being the medial aspect and this is the lateral aspect and there's more extreme rotation types so it may be the disc type get more stress on the Solaris particularly linked to pronation they followed up with a latest study and actually looked at using these anatomical dissections and doing a normal degree of pronation I think gives about five degrees at the subtalar joint and they found that that was creating micro failure of the silliest vesicles in this severely rotated form suggesting that actually salius has an important role in anti pronation or supination forces in essence now the reason I laughs momentarily is we've we've done previous project lives talking about root theory and also stuff one thing that moot said I think 1970 something it was that they said the soleus is the most powerful supinator of the foot and we used to be there well yeah I mean I I've I've long believed that as well and just leave rankle just leave Iran that is community on this site right the way across and that's not the most rotated image I'm showing you either it's actually got the most rotator going off the side so you I'm sure he's right yeah no I just had a wee laugh when you sit there for our way we've been baking him for a while that there are quite a few things you got right I mean often when we talk back to post I talk about we having Celaya particularly to control the foot because it's got to be the more powerful of the two muscles and then I think sorted post has a obvious role in a function that may be less also can help protect it and to go hand in hand oh yeah okay s so it was inevitable it was always gonna happen mmm if we've got time at leap oh sorry Craig gone well I said Bruce was just put in a question we could probably just stick in now why we why we get to it if that's okay but Bruce has just pretty much asked about ankle joint range of motion you know if the ankle joint range of motion is decreased would wouldn't they increase the load of the Achilles that heel off yeah the assumption being it would but obviously the person could modify the rest of the chain to compensate and they remain happen we know reduced dorsiflexion is a risk factor okay there's a numerous studies that have looked at it problem with a lot of studies is they measure dorsiflexion range in a whole variety of positions some weight bearing some non-weight-bearing some within East rates and with a knee bend but they all seem to show similar risk so it does seem to be there my problem I have is Kaufman's the original paper late 90s think it's 97 or something off the top of my head and they also identify an increased dorsiflexion as a risk factor but it's not in the conclusion or the abstract even though it's clearly in the table and as a risk as a odds ratio i think the increased dorsiflexion is about three points takes the reduced dorsiflexion is about four point two very similar so basically any alteration in the range of the ankle joints movement seems to potentially increase the risk of getting a kill e's problem and it may be that you can compensate either way but if you're weak if let's say we in my bias you can compensate by increasing the range of movement assists and accelerates over a longer period in other people they'll reduce dorsiflexion because of a lack of plant affects of power it increases your lever arm and gives you a proportion and this has been trained by Mueller in elderly people as developments that occur as well so it's sort of yeah but I'm making it fits of my narrative as well which is about the car and obviously there could be a previous ankle injury that's reduced range of movement but we can't always change it in some individuals so that's when ortho sees mean come in to actually try and compensate and take a bit of load away so short term no problem with getting heel races in and we would discuss in earlier looking at sort of ortho sees for those that may have pain with doing like a heel to wall test or something similar where they're then corrected when you put the ankle into neutral and that's probably got a good place to play brain that might be they have that extreme rotation therefore get more stress in that position and actually they benefit from the intervention or an orthosis in the short term and the first thing we're after with management is pain control if we can get the person to control their pain and understand what's loading in so it causing the pain then we're halfway there so whether that's or faces whether it's late management normally at going late management because loads the trigger in most instances if it's not all and it's just come out of nowhere I'd always question what's going on and then we can look at anything else as well if it's some of that especially what you talking about the soleus one explain that anecdote of mine that I've talked about before we started but if I just if I just repeated again effectively my bat of Achilles a couple of years ago when I averted and pronated my foot and dorsiflexed it hurt when I supinated my foot and dorsiflexed it was much less painful and and so my question was you know is there a mechanism there and I think some of what you've been talking about there's a long way it was explaining that yeah I think so and I mean about again the the phd dated why we want to the UTC scanner was to actually look at which section of the tendon was problematic and the research at the moment if it is gonna play ball with me on this file suggests that it's this area according to consoles work that may link to the areas of surveyors involvement so there is a strong suggestion that actually the site of tendinopathy is mostly potentially medial fascicles or the anterior fascicles and certainly all the guys like Lorenzo and UTC over here in the UK a rules in the majority of the tendon on tendon and perfect zone being the anterior section of the tendon we do see posterior tendinopathy but it's predominantly anterior that we see in that clinics so again we think it sort of matches up to these fascicles and this was actually a study I was going to do at the University as part my PhD and then during the PhD we thought it's going to take too much time cut it out and then somebody published it anyway thankfully so save me a lot of belly ate chopping up bodies so that's quite thankful so say if we've got time at the end when I might remind me to ask you what what your soleus Rehab looks like because it's barely talked about how important it is and there may be some people watching who who wouldn't have an I wouldn't bit more info on that so we'll put that towards the end because there's there's a few things we definitely want to get to first the first one is isometrics you and I have spoken about this before and I know I know your thoughts on it but some time ago a paper was published that looked at about eight people nine people whatever it was and it was in the patellar tendon and it showed six sorry a big pardon six people is in the patellar tendon and it showed that isometrics were had a positive effect on pain and somewhere along the line is Snowboard out of control and suddenly regardless of the tendon isometrics were king in the initial stages for pain and I know I've seen your your poster your data from South Africa you've got data to contradict that as well did you might just know just letting people this thing know where we stand on isometrics for pain at the moment yeah so the first paper is your right side with six people showed a fantastic reduction in pain from seven out of ten on a numerical rating scale during a single leg decline squat which is a very provocative tests for patellar tendons and the isotonic work that was done with these individuals didn't show any pain benefit as a crossover study and it also involves some brain scan as well using transcranial electrical stem which really interested a novel but it was stellar tendons and yeah the work was quickly extrapolated to all of the tendons as she said without beta so we'd started using it it's been a thought is great then started to find it didn't seem to work for everyone which what was suggested from the original preliminary data and so we set about doing a study to look at it the study involves Christian thought Berg Thomas band home and micrograph lengths to try and ensure that we've got a robust methodology it's been submitted it's just how the second review and we're just about to resubmit it with the revisions now so I'm hoping it'll be accepted and published soon it's been one of those challenges to get it published to be quite honest we looked at sixteen individuals with Achilles tendinopathy or diagnosed on a clinical examination including UTC scans they're all runners and because we don't have such a lovely provocative test a task like the single decline squad is for the patella we used the combination of functional tasks which is actually part of your visa right we double bilateral erasers tena bang if they were painful Braden how painful it was during it stopped at that point and recorded what number if they passed that and they got no pain we did ten single like.he erasers if they passed that without pain they went on to do ten single leg hops in position at that stage it was considered from our ethics committee that it was not useful or not ethical to then submit the patients to further vigorous testing to try and induce symptoms like running and with runners one of the downsizes that often if they're not run the thing before some of these tasks can be quite okay our average these are a score in these individuals was about seventy think it's sixty nine point something so typical population you'd see in the clinic and only 9 of the 16 had pain during that series of functional tasks so I what we did with all 16 of them though was measure strength like I've done for my previous work using isokinetic by nama tree and pressure sensitivity using a form phrase device like an out on their most saw point on their Achilles tendon we did typical isometrics five lots of 45 second holds of 70% rep max in slight plantar flexion five degrees or so and then we reanalyze their functional paint score on that test that they've done previously and also the paint sensitivity and the strength and some patients worsened on the functional paint score they went from a seven out of ten to a ten out of ten were enabled to we we do the same test because the paint was that much worse and some patients got some benefit there's a very varied response basically but the benefit they had in numerical rating scale was only one points out of ten which we don't have a minimal clinically important difference for tendinopathy patients but for other lower limb disorders it's considered two points so they didn't succeed previously published minimum clinically important difference when we looked at the data for the strength it didn't exceed the MCV the minimal clinical difference so measurement error that we previously calculated and published for that device and the vom phrase hasn't got any MVC's or m/c IDs so we don't know what it was but again some patient Scott's sort of more sensitive some not less sensitive it was a very very respondents but the net effect was nothing there's no statistical difference on any of the tests so on a bigger cohort we didn't find a decent change there's been further studies on the patella in total there's about 16 people that have undergone an isometric testing it published data that I know of at the moment and they all report better benefit but the second paper used in ten didn't show such a big profound difference as before and I think we've got to be very careful with research that research is replicated by other groups outside of the group that first comes up with it and in other areas and we don't extrapolate data out from one zone to another the patellar tendon when you get tendinopathy get stiffer the Achilles tendon when you get tendinopathy becomes more pliable okay so the tendons respond differently they're different entities when you get tendinopathy and why would we expect the same intervention to work there's no panacea for anything there's no silver bullet that cures all tendons or anything else and we did this with the eccentric years ago we found eccentric didn't work to as good as we maybe thought they did well let's not do with other metrics let's get the data first and let's be sure before we start rolling out every bugger in the world [Music] you then preempted the next question was about which was word for word are eccentric to the panacea I think you've just answered that I honestly don't think it matters what type of strength training we use this is for long-term outcome so not anti-symmetric long term but for a media belief I don't think it works for the Achilles at this moment in time I'll come back to that in a minute actually and so yeah it's a case of we can use any locally to strengthen them up I think the critical thing to change for patients is load management and the strength of the calf because I think that by improving the resilience of the calf muscles you can shock absorber protect the Achilles during locomotion and I think that's the key thing you see reduce the hysteresis we published a paper suggesting a heat shock protein involvement and stuff which has already been published but we tried to tie it into the Achilles in neuromuscular function that's where I sit at the moment is biased it it has flaws but we're trying to actually prove that or disprove it at the moment by testing the easiest open imaging basically can I just ask the probably say the absolute strength of the soleus guess track is that somewhat protective of the Achilles or is the process of trying to strengthen those muscles helping the Achilles tendon develop its capacity yeah I've never quite quite got that I honestly think he's both so by doing the loading you go to alter the material properties of the tendon and the structure but the structures slide and the response clinically can be quite fast and one of my arguments when it comes to the muscle is the muscle controls the tendon stiffness now tender stiffness is the critical Bickford for running you want the stiff tendon so if the muscle solutioning while it controls that if it doesn't function well it creates a less stiff muscle sorry less dependent and you suddenly increase in the energy absorption and dissipation as he and like I said we know that's part of the problem based on the chemical process that occurs in tendinopathy so I think we keep trying to change both with them we're just in the process of setting up a study looking at this with the Ren's eye mask eat them in London and to hopefully look at material properties and some struggles about sure because the reason I asked that I did never did with the Kelly's but I was just had a presentation to give on posterior tibial tendon APPA the-- so I just did a google search just to see what was out there and almost all the lay websites talked about strengthen the posterior tibial muscle as the key strategy for managing posterior tibial tendon up and I thought well you got a tendon that saw here you got a muscle here how's making that stronger going to enlist the strength the this the activity of strengthening actually helps the load capacity and the time is that but from the Achilles perspective what we've shown in our date is we get these oscillations where when the muscles and wriggly lengthen in you get in a shake in the muscle like a fasciculation during the isokinetic manometry and we don't see it in the healthy individuals and previous people like jonathan rhys and spring gave identified this in the Achilles as well but they've always termed it as a they call it a tendon oscillation or force frequency vibrations get very complex understanding what the hell that means took me a long time but basically they're describing the same thing the tendons shaking well the tendon can't shake itself face because the muscles not doing something and these vibrations are about eight Hertz and is one of these sort of fortress conversations with one of the prophets of ene is if I used to research this all the time years ago it's a faster motor unit they they vibrate to eight megahertz or a hurt and if essentially that's what you're shown it's the fast motor units aren't controlling that the mood correctly and they Jonathan and great used to think that was why the eccentric we have words because you got more of these vibrations and it stimulates tendon repair I think it's why you actually get the problem in the first place it's more load on the tendon and that causes a aggregation and the rehab actually smooths out that oscillation to basically instead of stop in and start in like this all the way through which is what the fasciculations are the tendon we get mini stretched shortened cycle and I think you smooth it out so you get one smooth contraction one smooth stretch shortened cycle rather than multiple for every single step sure Logan is or if you want to do the study with it we just need some more space to measure this and prove it afterwards that's where we're after the minute unfortunately we don't have the research funders got any more questions in I have so well pretty much the last one we got on a list before we then possibly get to celeriac rehab and and plantaris and other modalities other treatment we've talked about sort of someone coming in the history the physical the possible imaging the we talked about strength and we talked about you know load management tissue capacity where if anywhere to the other modalities fit in for you the big ones that we often see mentioned injection therapy whether that be high-volume corticosteroid PRP and of course shock wave therapy what where when and where do they fit for you if anywhere not not much come back to it is actually the biggest modality I'd use is unfortunately the biopsychosocial approach a lot these patients are fearful they're worried about what the pain means what's going to happen to them and the risk of rupture so the biggest part is education about what's wrong why it happened and how to resolve the problem and imaging can be useful to sort of help them understand that it's not that bad actually they've got quite a minor issue and and this will settle they're not gonna rupture ed there's plenty of healthy tissue there so that's my critical bit first and foremost not be used with everyone then when it comes to the agilent's most people that use the agents we'll talk about using them as a window of opportunity to allow loading so people like Dylann Morrissey down in the creamery uni and they've done quite a bit research on shockwave and high volume and then a non non we call it it's a ticket to successful rehab or to rehab where you do three weeks loading if you can't load them because of the pain then you use shockwave therapy if they still can't load after three weeks further you shock wave them again same process three weeks later shockwave if they're still failing ie you can't load them then you move on to doing a high-volume ejection and if that fails then it goes on to surgery which I think it's not a bad plan the thing for me though is with the patients I see and I see all sorts I see local je blogs in my village small town where I work at home I see people then travel from further afield that arrived often other techniques done including plant iris excision and stuff and time and time again they just never understood what's wrong as soon as you get that grasp of what's wrong you can successfully get them to load without needing the adjuncts to allow the load in and if you do the interventions and abolish the pain like the shock wave which will probably kill the nerve vessels as far as we understand at the moment and there's work for pain and the high-volume clear leaders as well but if you do those you've still got your back to do so they're only allowing you to do rehab so I'm not I don't find them important or necessary in my clinical work to do it's the easy answer it might be the case of a gluteal tendinopathy that can be a bit more of a struggle and I think shockwave has a place there and poker win in Ireland the students would work looking at about at the moment and finding good results sonic researchers I trust it but you know when it comes to Achilles I don't use other interventions that's why I don't have them at my disposal so you clearly I use the tools I have and loading is obviously my sort of thing but I can access ejection in excess shockwave from various other folk but I don't yeah I don't think the necessary and I'm still not yet convinced about the research for shockwave for meat portion insertion a little bit different possibly particularly if there's a big exostosis within the tendon or live applause but then it may be useful but again they've probably had it for a long time if we can reduce the load in and I would often be using a hill race to do so then absolutely fine and I just manage them as a normal wood beam attacked the problem you get is when you've got an elite athlete or somebody wants a quick fix or not necessarily saying then one quick fix but that's what they want want to get better and went back playing and the pressure comes on to the physician the physio the podiatrist you ever see in them and so a lot of these things then get added in at that stage I think if you can actually get them on board and then realize peak at a time I think you can successfully rehab them relax all that so I think I think they're there they're an option I don't use them in my clinical work I think the biggest thing is about getting the patient on board and the stand in it so finest exercise shots all that bit sort that out and generally pretty decent you got anything more in equal Christians in OKC if I think we've lost e anything he's frozen are you back in yeah well maybe there's a good time just telling the question we just lost you there for a minute in any other things plant our plants RS yeah hell of a lot of work be published on plant Aras a lot of it's come from Lorenzo masky how can a person bring work and some really pioneering studies coming on the biomechanics so Lorenzo with mister I remember I mean they're my head what are the ladies down in the works of the forties clinic as well they've done some lovely dissections looking at bisecting the plants Horace out and the Achilles in fresh cadaver ik legs and they can clearly show that during deflection and dorsiflexion and this might tie in with your experience Craig of your own problem as well in front effective and cost-effective positions the plan Tory seems to compress against the Achilles tendon and they hypothesis is that compression at least segregation of the medial section of the acute and then when the two contacts and causes that the tendinopathy of the Achilles in some instances and so that the treatment is been to remove the plantar s obviously wherever that one tourist has been in that person is a huge amount of anatomical variance it's been like that for their life why is it not hurt them five years ago why is it hurting now and why are they having a good day that been a bad day the next day so I've always come back down to the subjective lighting components again try and understand that and I think you can recover a lot of these you've got to remember that the clinics and the data that gets published from hak-kan and James colder at Fortius our tertiary patients they've already had numerous other people see them and so then they see in the surgeon who's going to say well you failed all this let's take you through to surgery and see sometimes really nothing get a bit biased and think they all need surgery they clearly don't they respond to normal interventions but maybe it's a bit more resistance I think though at the moment certainly in our hands we seem to get them better at the moment the majority of them anyway yeah just why are you talking this yes I just did a quick search so I could find 22 publications on plantaris and Achilles since 2011 so it's like but it's such a thing so there's a lot of work but at the same time it's never talked about much yeah I think it is so attending conferences it's always mentioned okay ESCA earlier in the year and there's a lovely talk on it as well there so it is where you're at clinically I don't think it's filtered down that well and this one any interesting things about isometric seems to have gone from couple of publications to literary everyone's doing it and then you got plantaris that loads of publications really good studies good theta and actually people unaware of it yeah let's again this point my point this 23 since 2000 you know so that one as recently as two weeks ago again yeah he's cracking stuff I think it's got a lot of scope but I often ask how can at the Renzo about this when we're at a conference having a beer well can it not just be the salacious vesicles and it just happens that fantasies next to it because we're talking a medial section again and that's why I want to see a study that doesn't remove plantar s it just didn't spring in front of the tendon versus scraping and plantaris removal because my concern is that a degree of these that we think I'm tired maybe I just so layer or Celeste involvement as opposed to a proper it's getting squashed all the time and again Paul Kerwin not to pick him up too much basements on cracking work he's doing a 100 cadaver ik legs in world College of Surgeons in Island looking at Tran Terrace and they're identifying all of them and a lot of them it's normally imaginated in the parity and this is why the old studies thought it didn't exist in their degree of people because it's hidden in the para teen and in all of our tendons at that rate lab at Leicester it's always there and it's pretty much always in the parity Ninh so I'm still yet to be convinced it causes that degree of compression and that's the lone trigger yeah sure yeah we're just at a time that may be a good point topic to finish on would be obviously the use of foot orthotics and we didn't even have a discussion before we came on about this but see my the way I look at it as we have one uncontrolled study showing it's incredibly effective we have one one very well done control study that showed it didn't really help much at all we could debate the orthotic designs used in that study yes wasn't in active control but again coming back to my ellic dope I have and I've tried this in a number of people are doing this and Agee quite strongly for us and these are people whose close experience I respect but they often talk about doing the lunch tests and yellow latch test how much does that Achilles hurt then put methodical and at the thought or put a media wedge under the foot and do the lunch test again does the pain go down now you do that in people with Achilles some some of them the pain does is less some of them and what they like to suggest is that those whose pain go down when you invert the foot to do a lunge test they that's an indication for foot orthosis now there's no clinical evidence support no no research evidence supporting that except the clinical experience of those people arguing for it and like I said I do respect these people and like your opinion so it's interesting observation it's consistent with my little anecdote of when I dorsiflex that inverter everted my foot so we kind of interesting to pursue that yeah these guys come on to my student list for next year so really good because now you're sorry you keep dropping out he's gonna do a study on healed field offenders they came through earlier you have to tweet them later and yeah just a risky or raise I totally agree with that one looks like and we know that reduces a bit less on the tendon using a heel raise and I think it's good one of the things I bring up Craig I think if we're looking at trying to do a study looking ortho sees is the problem is is that there's a time period when you're quite flared up where it'll probably have a good impact so those individuals that the heel to all test and get pain what it is they're obviously quite sore that's not that common a finding to be honest in Achilles patient and so it's like well okay they're obviously bad at the time it's probably gonna give them a good way of setting it in the short-term but if you're doing a long-term study in three months I don't think you then find a difference between the group that didn't have it because it's probably the first four weeks the first two weeks where actually go I can walk further nearly instantly and that would be great so I think we've got to be again thoughtful about follow-up periods and this is something that the researchers I'm just don't seem to engage with yeah no I think that they in this example I see them as probably very effective short-term maybe medium load reduction agents but I think the first thing the crucial thing yeah the crucial thing about orthotics in this issue is getting the design features right like an app supporting type design is not going to fix soleus something on the medial side of the subtalar joint axis which varies mercifully yeah there's le reduced load and soleus and I think that's where you know we did a few weeks ago with Simon spoon and we talked about foot orthotic dosing and I think that's the key and if the soleus is a powerful super nadir of the foot it is that means for the faces do have a potential role to reduce how had soleus has to work and i mean my eyes right but not myself did a course last year with ian that we both thought they caught NHS trust and his great work with him because it's a case of let me see the overlap between the two areas and how we can link and learn a lot spending that time with it and I think there's a huge huge overlap when I was in sports med we used a firm Steve April Steve in the clinic and get great results for the kiddie stuff as well so I think this scope there I just think we've got to think about the studies when they do it if you're looking at long-term follow-ups comparing proper orthoses and what we consider a sham one well long term the symptoms are probably going to improve whatever that's where we match it up to the person that gets benefit with and that's a clinical sort of decision-making Brawl then and we wouldn't give it to everyone we'd only give it to a cohort of patients will let us do pragmatic trials that actually target the individuals we should be using these things with instead of just going everyone within a kiddies problem and gets an insult when it might be totally inappropriate for a degree of them so yeah no well thanks I think yes we've we've gone over the air it's been really good there's been some really positive comments made in the last five minutes about how well tonight is gone I did see have seen a notice a lot of people would join in light so for those that have joined in late come back in 10 minutes this video I'll be ready to watch from the beginning it will be on YouTube so thanks again Seth thank you very much but just before we finish I'm going to put a bit of plug in for Ian for those of you who haven't seen what the in posted on his Facebook page and on Twitter this morning you really like usually you know I did I did click on the like button so so thanks you thanks Ian and thanks sis yeah 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The Battle for Your Brain: A Conversation with Professor Nita Farahany
Francis Shen: All right, welcome, everyone. We'll wait a second as everyone Francis Shen: joins the room, and then we'll get started. Francis Shen: Alright. Francis Shen: People are still being allowed in Francis Shen: wait about 30 s. Good. Francis Shen: Okay. Francis Shen: welcome, everyone. We are here to talk about this amazing new book, the Battle for your Brain. My name is Francis Shen I'm. A faculty member at the Harvard Medical School Center for Bioethics, Harvard University Affiliate Professor at Harvard Law School and Faculty Member at the Center for law, brain and behavior at Mgh in a moment. I'm going to turn it over to a Professor Kamal Shahar, who will introduce Professor Farhani. But before I do that a few housekeeping items. Francis Shen: First, thank you to the Petri Flam Center and the Hms. Center for bioethics for co-sponsoring. This event, and to Staff at both centers for getting the word out and supporting it. Second, this event is being recorded. So if you like what you see, you'll be able to pass it on to your friends Afterwards we'll share the link with everyone who is attending. Third, we invite you to submit your questions for Dr. Farahani. There is a. Q. A. Button Francis Shen: that you will see in your Zoom Webinar screen. You click that, and you can submit a question. Given time. We won't be able to get to all of them, but we will certainly be able to get Francis Shen: to some of them. So those are my housekeeping notes, and with that let me introduce Carmel Shikhar, who is currently the executive director of the Petrie Form Center for health law policy, biotechnology, and bioethics. Harvard Law School, and she will soon be taking on the new role of Assistant clinical professor of Law and Faculty, Director of the Health Law and Policy clinic at Harvard Law School. Congratulations on that new role. Thanks for being here. Thank you for Petri Flam Co sponsorship. and let me hand it over to you. Carmel Shachar: Thanks, Francis. I am really delighted to have the privilege to introduce Professor Anita Farahari. She is the Robinson. Oh, Everett, distinguished Professor Flan philosophy at Duke Law School Carmel Shachar: as well as the founding Director of Duke Science and Society, the Faculty Chair of the Duke Ma. In Bioethics and Science Policy, and the princi principal investigator of Slap Lab, which is quite possibly the best acronym. Carmel Shachar: We are very privileged at the Petrie Form Center to work with Nita, because she is also co-editor in chief and co-founder of the Journal of Law in the Bio Sciences. Carmel Shachar: In addition to many other groups that she contributes her time, including being on the Board of Advisors for scientific American. Nita is somebody who I find really admirable as a bioethicist and a health lawyer. I will say one short story, and then move on so that you can actually hear from her. Carmel Shachar: We were lucky enough to co-edit a volume on consumer genetic technology with Nita several years ago. Carmel Shachar: and at the Carmel Shachar: writers dinner for the conference that led into the book. We were all discussing consumer genetic technologies, such as 23 and me but we were all discussing it in a very bloodless way, like Carmel Shachar: Oh, somebody could use 23 in need, but not I. I, of course, as a bioethicist i'm a robot with no DNA, and i'm not interested in it at all. Carmel Shachar: And Nita, I think, was the first person from the group to really talk about it as do I want to do this. And actually, this is amazing that we can peer into our DNA. And Carmel Shachar: this is a really great thing, and I think Carmel Shachar: her just discussing it in such a lovely, candid and open way, shifted the conversation and made me comfortable, saying, yeah, I actually have use 23 in the end. Carmel Shachar: Talk me some really valuable things about my genetics that i'm really happy for. Carmel Shachar: And so when I heard that Nita was writing a book on ethics and neuroscience, I got very excited as a bioethicist married to a neuroscientist, because, as I've told her, I now have an easy gift for our wedding anniversary coming up. Carmel Shachar: But I think, even if I was not married to a neuroscientist, this book would be one of my top choices for my summer reading. I think this conversation is going to be fantastic, and Francis thank you for pulling this event together, and Nita thank you for giving us your time. Nita Farahany: Thanks for those lovely comments. Caramel is such a delight to join you guys today. Francis Shen: Yeah, this is wonderful, thanks, Carmel. So i'm gonna get us started. First of all, I encourage everyone to read the book. I echo everything, Carmel said, whether it's summer reading or anniversary presence, or for your students. It's a really wonderful book I was telling you for a 100 before we get on. I was really struck by how personal Francis Shen: the book is. If you read it, you'll learn of the family, her children, her mother Conversations with her father about her mother's health, about fresher far Honey's own branding challenges, and how she's tackled them. So thank you for writing a book that is both intellectual and intimate. Francis Shen: The the core thesis of the book, at least, as I take it, is that we're at this crossroad with neuro technology. There's one version of the future that's really awesome. There's another version that's really bad, and we have some tough choices to make. Francis Shen: and the core. I think of the the in the book is that one of the things we need to do is protect legal protections for our our cognitive liberty at the individual level. So i'd like to ask you, maybe, to help us in our audience. Think about some context for this argument for the book, you know, and Carmel, such as that. You've got talent across all these different areas. You know so much Francis Shen: when you sat down and kind of thought about what you're going to write about, and with so many different options and so many ways that neuroscience is affecting society. Francis Shen: How did you come to the decision to write this book at this time. Nita Farahany: Oh, that's a big question, Francis. So first, you know, I would say, it seems like the book as well Times in the moment that people are incredibly anxious about what's happening with AI, Nita Farahany: and the book is in part that right. It's in part a book about the extraordinary advances in AI that now enable the decoding of the human brain as well. Nita Farahany: But that's luck. And having published the book in the moment at which a lot of people are anxious about it already. I've been thinking about these issues for a very long time, right? More than a decade. I've been writing about the different ways in which neuroscience and neuro technology are used in the legal system and give us a lens by which we can understand Nita Farahany: some of our pre-existing commitments within law. But in each of those earlier endeavors what I discovered was that there was really kind of a missing whole. There was a way in which we haven't been thinking about the ability to actually peer into manipulate, change the human brain much more directly than we can otherwise. Nita Farahany: and in in recognizing that whole, I started writing early on about the role of cognitive liberty in our lives, and by cognitive liberty I really mean the right to self determination over our brains and mental experiences Nita Farahany: as a right to both access and use technologies, but also right from interference with our mental privacy and freedom of thought. Nita Farahany: And this book was for me very much an exploration of the emerging technologies that enable that access into coding the ways in which that will become widespread and are already becoming widespread Nita Farahany: and fleshing out the legal and normative case for cognitive liberty, and the process of writing the book was my own journey, and and that's a lot of the reasons why there's so much personal in the book. It was. It was my personal journey in Nita Farahany: both understanding and grappling with these technologies, but also in developing this bigger framework of cognitive liberty. And and so Nita Farahany: it just came very naturally to inject myself in it, because I was part of the story, right? Whether it was, you know, watching a movie with my daughter, and you know, and puzzling over like oh, my gosh! That parallel between the Science Fiction and the realities, and just writing about that experience to help people kind of get entrance into it. Nita Farahany: And i'll say this, which is to me. It's a very natural evolution of technology, which is, people are very accustomed to sensors and their smart watches, and in their rings that track their heartbeats and footsteps and breaths and body temperatures. Nita Farahany: And so the idea that brain sensors can now detect and decode our brain activity is a natural progression of where technology and the quantified self movement is. But it was only when I started to hear from technologists themselves about moving from. Nita Farahany: You know what had been a category of technology that had really been niche products, with very limited applications Nita Farahany: to embedding brain sensors into our everyday devices, like earbuds and headphones and watches and wearable tattoos, and how that not only will decode and give us access to our brain activity, but enable us to have a new way of interfacing with technology that I really understood Nita Farahany: how urgent the conversation was that this was about to be a transformational technology. and, unlike AI, where everybody is talking about it. Nobody seems to be talking about this transformational technology that's happening. So Nita Farahany: that made like it made it incredibly urgent for me to. Then, finally, with all these ideas percolating for a very long time to write this book, and to define this category of cognitive liberty and lawn in our lives. Nita Farahany: I am not hearing you. Francis Shen: I press the wrong button. That was me. That was great, and that it leads to a couple of more questions. So I I think a lot of the you know. At least some of the attendees today are people who work or might want to work in this this area thinking about. You know. How do you anticipate the future, and and then account for it? And I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about that. You mentioned the word Francis Shen: urgency, and that certainly comes across in the book. And you mentioned in and through some stories illustrated how at least my sense was that you thought this might happen, and you see a certain presentation, or you have a couple of conversations, and you walk away thinking Francis Shen: this is actually happening already now. But how do you, as someone who is working on things that Haven't happened yet? Nita Farahany: How do you get the timing right? It is You definitely don't want to wait till it's too late. Francis Shen: On the other hand, I think of you know the year 2,000 hull of blue where we we got all ready for this thing that never happened right. It was always the next big thing. It didn't happen. So how do you do that? I get ready for something, and in particular think about making laws for a world that sort of exists, but doesn't quite yet exist. Nita Farahany: So Nita Farahany: a lot of us have read Shoshana Zubop's book, the age of surveillance, capitalism, and I I think it's a a tremendous book, and it's also a tremendous book about a phenomenon that has already happened right, which is that our personal data has already been commodified. We have become the products for companies. Nita Farahany: The business model has been built around the commodification of data and the misuse in many cases of data. Nita Farahany: and that doesn't have to be the story with neuro technology, right? It can be a different story that we can write, but you can't write that story decades in advance, and there isn't the political will or the interest in writing a decades in advance. But there is a moment to get it right, and that's Nita Farahany: I believe, this moment. And here's why. So? First you've read the book, Francis. So you know Nita Farahany: very little of what i've described is about a future right, a lot of what I'm describing is about what's already here, and what is already happening just not at widespread scale across society, right? But I mean 5,000 companies, worldwide, are already using smart cap technology to track employees fatigue levels. You know, I gave a presentation at the World Economic Forum in Davos about the use of brain wearables in the workplace. Nita Farahany: and a major global corporation. CEO came up to me afterwards and said that was such an interesting presentation. You can include include us as a use case, because we've already used to the technology that you're describing on thousands of employees. And you know, we have some really interesting data that we'd love to share with you about all of the other metrics that we're measuring beyond attention and fatigue, including, you know, engagement and boredom, and you know, a bunch of other aspects in in the workplace. Nita Farahany: When I talk with the technologists in the space, and I did a tremendous number of interviews in the book with both the technologists, but also the deep dives into the You know, scientists and researchers in it. Nita Farahany: They all think we're at the tipping point, right? None of them think like this is technology that's decades away. Now, some of it, some of the applications are decades away, meaning or not even decades away. But you know a decade away like right now, eeg isn't fast enough Nita Farahany: to be a very reliable controller for interface with other technology. Nita Farahany: There's a there's a latency, and how quickly you can turn on and off, or use it in the place of a mouse, for example. And so the way that you know brain sensors will first become widespread is really to track everyday brain activity from focus and attention to everyday metrics of brain health Nita Farahany: as a interface for all of the rest of our technology. Those are applications that will come in time, but in kind of getting the moment right. Nita Farahany: I think, getting the moment right for something that is as transformational as neuro technology that is as transformational, as direct access, to be able to alter and and detect what's happening in the brain Nita Farahany: the moment before is the right time to get the safeguards into place, especially if they're the kinds of safeguards that i'm talking about, which is to have the terms of service be fundamentally different. Nita Farahany: Commodification of brain data has already begun. It isn't at scale. Yet brain sensors are already being sold worldwide. It isn't everybody who's using them yet when it becomes an everyday part of our everyday lives. Nita Farahany: That's the moment at which you hope that the safeguards are already in place. And so that's why I think now is the right moment to do so. But you have to do a lot of Futurism. You can't be writing about. You know Science Fiction decades in advance. If you're writing a book like this. I think what most people have said about the book that they found startling Nita Farahany: is not that I am writing about a future, but that I am writing about so many real world examples that are already in use today. And that's I think, what motivates people to recognize the urgency of the conversation. Francis Shen: Yeah, it. It's. And and there are lots of these real world examples, and I I used to, or I want to go next, which is that throughout the book you really and I, I commend you for this. You take a balanced approach. That is at least some of the headlines covering your book, I think, have picked up on the Francis Shen: need to protect the brain. Bad things are going to happen. Francis Shen: We need to go back to the you. It's not your argument at all, as i'm going to point out. But we need to be of a yeoman farmers and like an technology movement, you're actually and you come out. We'll get this later. You think traditionalists are on the wrong side of history with respect to sort of Francis Shen: paternalism, but even at the end, you right with neuro technology. It's not too late to protect against the same fate for our brains. We stand at a fork in the road where the coming dawn of neuro technology could change our lives for the better, or lead to this dystopian future. But I want to focus on that better Francis Shen: part because I feel like, especially in, say, the biofix neurotics community. You get more credit for finding all the bad things that are going to happen and then trying to stop them. Francis Shen: But one bad thing is that people couldn't see the benefits here and don't uptake the technology and technically to inequities that those who can afford and understand this stuff. Start using it in those, and there'd be fear for using it right. Sort of see vaccines as a place where boy would have been really good if more had used them. Francis Shen: Could you help us paint a picture of what the better future looks like if we get it right? If we, you know. Get the laws in place. Francis Shen: What is flourishing. Look like alongside this neurotech that's already already here. Nita Farahany: Yeah, thanks for pointing that out for us. So first I will say Nita Farahany: it's hard to write a book in this space that really is balanced, and I really believe there is a lot of good here, and there's some really frightening aspects of it, and it is about getting it right, and even working with my editor. This was one of the hardest parts he was like. Nuance is not something that is easy to get across, and this kind of nuanced position of like Nita Farahany: It's it's good. It's bad. It's both like that he's like that is not. It's much easier to sell a book that is like. Nita Farahany: Look at the Dystopian future that's coming, and some of the headlines have done that, and that's been a little frustrating for me to be honest is when when you know you have these super dystopian clickbait headlines, especially when i'm writing about Clickbait as a bad thing in the book. So you know that's unfortunate. Some of the some of the most well written Nita Farahany: pieces that I've really treasured have been the ones that have done the nuance, and those, I think, have advanced the conversation in really meaningful ways. There was a guardian piece that I thought was phenomenal in this regard that really set and reset the tone of the conversation that had already started around the book. Nita Farahany: But on the on the positive. So why why do I take that approach so first? At you know, cognitive liberty, as I define it in the book, is again the right to, and the right from, and the right to, as I see, it, is a powerful right to self determination over our brains and mental experiences, which includes the right to access what's happening in our own brains. Nita Farahany: and the right to change it, whether that's to enhance it or diminish it. And let's just start with access, because that's where some really positive things could occur. Nita Farahany: We know and track virtually nothing that's happening in our own brains right now, which is really stunning if you think about it by comparison to like tracking our our heartbeats and our footsteps. And you know people can tell you their cholesterol levels their blood pressure, but they only have their internal software to access. What's happening in their own brains. Nita Farahany: even though most of us identify our sense of self most closely with our own brains. And so from the basics, like Nita Farahany: little things which are big things for many of us like, When do you focus the best you focus best in the morning. Do you focus best in the afternoon? Do you really work better from home? What is the switching cost for you between going from platform to platform when you're on social media, and then you go back into writing. How much time does that actually cost you? Nita Farahany: What does that you know kind of arc of cognitive decline. Look like over time. If you're an epileptic, can you detect epileptic seizures minutes to up to an hour before they occur. You know, tracking basic brain metrics from everything, from your focus and attention and boredom and fatigue Nita Farahany: to your biases, like actually being able to detect your own biases and see, not just through implicit association tasks, but through actual targeting Nita Farahany: of an identification of your own biases like there's a lot we can learn through the process of self discovery about ourselves, about our brains, about our brain health. There's a lot we can do to enhance and to even ease our own suffering. And I talk about some very personal experiences of using, for example, neuro feedback Nita Farahany: in my own life, drugs and devices that I've used, and you know my own journey of chronic migraines and trying absolutely everything under the sun within the realm of neuro technology to do so. So Nita Farahany: I you know I it's very scary to make your brain transparent to others. There are very significant downsides to doing so. But the reason we're going to go into this new era Nita Farahany: Isn't. you know, just so that governments and corporations can hack into our brains. The reason we're going to go into this new era is because Nita Farahany: it can be transformational for our health, for our well being, and even what it means to be human. I mean brain to brain communication and brain to text communication. There's so much that may happen in this coming age with neuro technology Nita Farahany: that will transform humanity in many ways that will be positive that I think, will willingly go into this era, and I want us, if we do so, to do so, recognizing how to do so in ways that will be beneficial rather than you know, harmful to society. Francis Shen: Yeah, I Well, I I I appreciate you saying that, and i'm glad that it's. It's interesting to hear that you had that conversation with the editor because it did come through that. You You do see this balance. I understand, you know, to to to sell the book, and it's gotta be position a certain way. But I commend you for for doing that balancing. Francis Shen: I I want to contrast the benefits version with the the harms version the sort of dystopia that you also raise Francis Shen: with one line of thread that I I didn't see discussed as much in the book. And then as to do with the intersection with with race and scientific rating system, and racial and equity. And as context for this, there's been a group here at at Harvard. That's started to focus on neuro technology justice, and it's been a lot of fun, and we had some support from the data foundation to to do a neuro technology justice summit in in February. And we asked the audience. And actually, we had 8 Dana fellows, amazing people. We asked them to Francis Shen: basically the fork. And the road question that you ask, is neurotechnology going to be co-opted by the rich and the powerful and the mean spirited? Or is there some beneficial road like the one you just mentioned? I gotta say people are split with good reason, like I need Francis Shen: each side. But one of our fellows. Dr. Jasmine Fossa is at Carnegie. Mellon has done some work, and I don't want to raise it here about the sort of systematic bias of particular electric andcephalography and and Fn. As these Francis Shen: devices that rick for those who don't know work by measuring electrical activity, and you describe it well in the in the book, but through the scout. And the problem that Dr. Kas and others pointed out is that for almost the entirety of these technologies exist, and it was sort of overlooked that they were systematically excluding certain groups because of hair, hair, color. Francis Shen: And so I want to ask about like who's included in this neuro technology future. And how do we Francis Shen: address this concern, which is clearly there because it's been there? It's almost every time a new technology, whether it's sn or not. It's just now, but especially in neuroscience with our history of Phrenology, and it's justification of a racial hierarchy. Francis Shen: How do we? As in? And I guess we's that we also. But how do we address this? And are you concerned about it? How does that? Again, that sort of racial inequity or concern about racial injustice play into this of neuro technology, future Francis Shen: or present. Nita Farahany: Yeah, it's a great question. So I I hear 2 different questions within what you ask Francis. One of them is the validity of the data itself. Given the populations that have been included within data sets that have analyzed electro encephalography and F Fn. Years. And the second is questions about Nita Farahany: who benefits from the technology, who's at risk from the technology? What are the kind of distributional concerns? Is that fair and kind of. Nita Farahany: With respect to data validity, I mean. Interestingly, every brain is a little bit different, and every every brain requires calibration. When you use these devices. They're not like there. There is some universality in terms of, you know, being able to like, turn switches on and off with your brain or concentration, or Alpha or Beta. Nita Farahany: you know, kind of brain activity levels. But calibration is actually unique to each person when you use the devices. And so you know questions about the validity of the data as to whether or not like Alpha really represents, you know, a particular thing, or gamma, or Delta. You know. Brainwaves and frequencies reflect different things. Those, I think, have been ecologically validated across a lot of different populations in terms of is that really correlated with stress levels is that really correlated with attention and focus levels that doesn't seem to vary, you know, based on Nita Farahany: you know, who's included excluded within the data set, because it has been replicated widely across now many different scalps and many different skin colors to use it, and it's also been. Nita Farahany: you know, calibrated with other modalities, and of course, with clinical eeg, which has been much broader than then, You know, the consumer based, Eeg: data sets. Nita Farahany: I'll also say the generative AI adds a really interesting dimension to this, because most of the neuro technologists who I've been talking with have talked about how really generative and AI will enable true customization to your own brain activity and calibration to your own brain activity. So I think. Nita Farahany: at least from a analytic or or or kind of clinical validity of the technology, who's included is anybody who wants to be included Nita Farahany: in the in, in the kind of absolute sense. So then we need to talk about it from the distributive justice sense, right, which is, who will have access to the technologies. I don't think this is that different than any other conversation meaning. I don't think that there's something unique or special or different about the distributive justice concerns when it comes to neuro technologies than other technologies in that Nita Farahany: the distributional concerns about the mal distribution of technologies, the mount distribution of benefits across society, the structural problems that that plays into the hierarchy that that perpetuates the hierarchies of informational asymmetries in the workplace. Nita Farahany: All of that, I think, exists across technologies. And so the reason it's not in this book uniquely right, is not because I don't think it's an important part of the conversation. It's because in fashioning cognitive liberty, cognitive liberty exists within already Nita Farahany: other liberties and interest that are at play. I'm trying to kind of carve out what's unique in this space, and i'm i'm not sure that I see that as being a unique issue within the space, but a pervasive issue that we have to address across society. Nita Farahany: and that's going to be true, for you know AI and the power of AI and the tools and the availability of AI across society. The only way in which I think Nita Farahany: it starts to become unique is, if you think that particular technologies are so transformational as to be critical to human flourishing. Nita Farahany: and to the extent that we believe that right, if we, if we believe like AI is crucial, and access to it is crucial to human flourishing, more so than other technologies or neuro technologies, and access to it are crucial to human flourishing, and more so than other technologies. Then the urgency of addressing the distributional concerns within that technology become much more important. And I think you could make that case for neurotech, which is to say that Nita Farahany: because of its power and because of the fact that if it really does become the way in which people interface with other technologies and substantially decreases the friction and increases the ease or the enhancement potentials are substantially more powerful with neuro technologies, and other areas. Then it becomes Nita Farahany: urgent that we address what is a pervasive issue in this context, because of the unique benefits that it would provide to people. Francis Shen: Yeah, that that that makes sense. Let me ask about another pervasive issue that shows up here, and that has to do with Francis Shen: the balance that you want to strike between. So allowing individuals to flourish, but protecting them right from from the harms, and in particular, I want to think about adolescents. So Francis Shen: the over the argue that in general respecting people's right to self-determination, including their right to enhance or diminish their rains, will further enable human flourishing, and to with broadly with respect to giving consumers information. You argue that traditionalist. Francis Shen: or on the wrong side of history, the view that consumers are too health illiterate to justify their access Francis Shen: there to justify self-access to their brains, but littles the average person, and denies them the opportunity to become more educated. So i'm going to think about a hypothetical of thirteen-year-olds, because they are really key out strongly on that one didn't I france there are many that i'm like a little bit more hesitant but on that one that's like a very. That's a pretty strong state. Yeah, no. And I I mean it's and I get it. I mean it. It makes a lot of sense in a lot of ways. Francis Shen: But then I thought, okay, but i'm thinking about it like me, you know, or 45 year old me. But what about, and not our your oldest or a little younger? Ours is is 11. Francis Shen: We've all been through there, but H 13, so I pick 13, because it's. Pg: 13. It's when an apple and others like begin to. You get to do certain things. But you're also you're like 5 years away from 18 right? So you're not. Francis Shen: What about that? It seems to me it's an example where there and there are many others. But this one where there's this tension between trying to follow the sort of path self determination. And if I reread this sort of many of us think that 13 year olds are too health illiterate. Nita Farahany: I I wouldn't. Yeah, but I I mean so I would say, my children are different right? I mean so i'm fine with paternalism when it comes to children, because I think that's where paternalism plays its role. You're supposed to parent. Nita Farahany: and so making choices for children like, I don't think that full self determination at age 13 to do anything you want, or have any kind of screen time you want, or make any choices you want With respect to the use or misuse of technologies is within your hands. I don't think you have fully formed judgment to be making those choices, yet Nita Farahany: it's not about health, literacy or illiteracy. It's about the fact that you are still being parented and parenting, I think, is helping children to develop the capacity for self determination over time as their judgment and their perspective develops. Nita Farahany: you know. So if if if you ask me at 13 whether or not I think that a child is too health illiterate to get direct access to information about their most serious medical conditions, or what's happening in their own brains, and whether parents can exercise choices. In that instance, I think. Yes, absolutely. I'm fine with that. Nita Farahany: If you want to talk to me about an adult making those choices, and like somebody standing in the place of making a decision about what access to information they have about their own brains. Then I think we're on the wrong side of history. Francis Shen: Okay. So I want to ask you about the middle, because I I thought that might be your answer. And and of course, you know, I follow this. So there's all this neuroscience on the young adult brain. It's it's arguably the which you know really well, right? It's already the place. It's been the most active. Francis Shen: and there are a lot who argue that the 18 year old doesn't take 18, because 18 now is a magical legal number. It's certainly a place for these technology companies are aware and are trying to. These are the consumers, and they're targeting. Francis Shen: Would we would would part of the Francis Shen: how do we balance that in the law that is, could we justify broader protections, we but it would also limit, when an 18 year old could do roughly on the argument that these technologies, which are specific to your neurons and the way they're operating, connecting together, we got to be really careful, because we've learned a lot about how you're not fully wired. Francis Shen: What about is there? I mean, what do we do with with Tiktok or something? I that's not the best example, but you know, but to the firm who wants to to to put you know whatever the latest, greatest neuro tech is, and market eighteenth could we prevent that through with each other 25? Or Francis Shen: do we let cognitive liberty, you know, protect their their right to self-determination even at age 18, and then we'll go to audience questions to be my last one. Nita Farahany: No, that's a that's a great question, especially given that. You know all of the nurses that you know. You continue developing all the way through your mid 20 s at least. And Nita Farahany: what what I would say is this, which is, we have drawn a rather arbitrary line in law around the age of 18 for a whole bunch of things right for voting for, you know, being able to fight in wars, for you know what we determined to be a legal adult. Nita Farahany: and if if we're going to maintain that line which it seems like we are, then you know, as the kind of legal fiction of when adulthood begins. Nita Farahany: I don't think that we ought to carve this category out uniquely to say, except for when it comes to information about your own brain, or except when it comes to choices around self-determination. With respect to your own brain. Nita Farahany: and you know does that mean that we can't adopt different nudges or or informational. You know kind of campaigns to help a child understand that their brain continues to develop, and that the impact, for example, as we learn about it, of. Nita Farahany: you know, screen addictions, or of you know, the use of social media which shapes and reshapes their brains and ways that can be devastating for self esteem, or can make them more likely to suffer from mental health issues. Shouldn't be part of our education campaigns, or that we shouldn't go after companies, for example, who are intentionally trying to addict Nita Farahany: people to their platforms, recognizing that those have disproportionate effects on children, I think Nita Farahany: all of that is fair game, right? Meaning increase information, forcing functions. Try to get companies or create incentives or or regulations around their. You know, continued deployment of manipulative and addictive features that are embedded within technologies that disproportionately affect the youth. Nita Farahany: Whether we should then also take the next step, which is to say, you can't have access to your own brain data, or you can't have access to the technologies until you're beyond 18. I I would not favor that largely because of where we've drawn the line on other Nita Farahany: kind of legal adulthood versus non-adulthood. What I favor changing that line at some point, Given what we know about the developing brain. Maybe, you know, I think the more we learn about the developing brain, and the more it seems like we really have picked a pretty arbitrary point in time to carve out a bunch of different rights and regulations. Francis Shen: Thank you for that. So we're going to turn to audience questions. Now you weren't here at the beginning you're welcome to put your questions in the Q. And a one question is the name of the book. the battle for your brain everywhere. Books are. So it's great. So one of the questions here is good ones about opting out, and the question is, what are the options for opting out of neuro technologies the context that a question, or, as is Francis Shen: sometimes with our fit bits, we can opt out of them. But with many of our phone collections. We tacitly accept the use agreement, and it's difficult to opt out. So how much data will be secretly collected by these neuro technologies. Nita Farahany: So first I should say a lot of data is already being secretly collected, not through brain sensors, right? But you know much of the profiles that are being created about people through their digital activities Nita Farahany: are really designed to try to infer brains and mental experiences. Right? People are trying to figure out what the emotional and and you know kind of cognitive landscape is of individuals. And then to use that for micro-targeting of advertisements to develop profiles and everything else about them Nita Farahany: to the extent that you can opt out of a digital life. That's the extent to which you can opt out of all of that information being collected against you, which is to say, you don't really have opt out options. Nita Farahany: brain sensors for the foreseeable future, I think, will be opt out aable that is, you can buy. You know, air pods that will have brain sensors, and you can buy air pods that will not have brain sensors, and maybe not air pods in particular. But earbuds right. So you might choose Nita Farahany: to go with the company that does or doesn't have brain sensors in it, or you might choose headphones that do, or don't have brain sensors in it, or the watch that does or doesn't. Nita Farahany: when it will become much more difficult to opt in and opt out is when it becomes the way in which we interface with all of the rest of our technology. And that's the future that many of these companies are really focused on building. So Meta plans to launch in 2,025. It's first watch for neural interface with its AR glasses. Nita Farahany: Now that's a timeframe that has been pushed a couple of times. Originally it was 2,022 and then 2,023. And now it's early 2,025, so we'll see but that's their current estimate is that we Nita Farahany: neural interface the first iteration of it will be early 2,025 Nita Farahany: by the end of, I think the decade we can expect that it'll be increasingly more difficult to interface with virtual reality and augmented reality without sensors, as the way in which you interface with those technologies. Nita Farahany: And so I think Nita Farahany: you know whether it's AR VR, or like. I heard a presentation at Ted last week around humane, which is screenless technology. That is your AI that senses your everyday activity, I think increasingly all of that will be integrated with sensors Nita Farahany: that detect brain and other biometric activity which will become very hard to opt out of to the extent that you want to have a digital life. It'll be harder and harder, which is why I think it's so important that we really get out ahead Nita Farahany: of that moment of ubiquity is to give people that option to be able to opt out. And you know, just say, chapter, 2 of the book focuses on your brain at work. Nita Farahany: and I think that's going to become a place in which it'll become harder and harder to opt out as well is the extent to which that's integrated into everyday workplace for cognitive ergonomics. That is the adaptive workplace to the brain or self tracking of focus Nita Farahany: or tracking that is not self tracking, but mandated by employers. Francis Shen: Thanks for that, I want to combine a couple of questions in the final chapter. If we're seeing in the book, you talk about nothing for a universal human right as part of the solution. 2 of our questions are raising other legal avenues which could be complementary or substitutes. Francis Shen: One from Adam Steiner asks about data ownership, and some, as you know, have argued both on both sides that property, law and and data ownership of of brain data might be one option. Daniel Torino asked. What says also she loves your book. And what are suggestions around writing data? Use agreements Francis Shen: or informed consent? It's almost a contractual mechanism to do with this. So could you talk a little bit about the different legal avenues that might be available, and how you see them working independently or work together. Nita Farahany: Yeah. So i'm navigating for cognitive liberty as a universal human right. But it's not the only approach to it right, and i'm not the only person who's either writing about cognitive liberty or kind of developing the normative frameworks and theories around it. This is my take on how we ought to recognize it, and how we ought to integrate it, and Nita Farahany: what the normative case for it ought to be. The reason I locate it with an international human rights law is because first, I think it's an international global right that we need to recognize that, I think has significant both Nita Farahany: legal power to recognize it internationally, but also has significant norm potential as well so setting it as both a a legal as well as a societal norm of recognize. The importance of of cognitive liberty, I think, is is foundational. Nita Farahany: and the mechanism by which I suggest that we do, that is, by recognizing it, has 3 different components which it exists and are reflected within international human rights law, that is, to update privacy, to include mental privacy. And I describe which aspects of our cognitive and effective experiences would be covered by that to update freedom of thought. Nita Farahany: to go beyond religious freedom and belief, and to include freedom from interception, manipulation, and punishment of our thoughts, and that builds on the work of Dr. Ahmed Shahid, who is the special repertoire of freedom of thought. Nita Farahany: and held the mandate previously. And the last is self determination, which is this kind of positive aspect of it, but to your question specifically about other mechanisms by which that would be implemented, I see that both as an international right, but then requiring both national legislation Nita Farahany: and context, specific legislation, so context specific, could include things like employment law that needs to specifically address. You know, the collection of biometric data, and particularly brain biometric data within the workplace, and what that means, and what rights individuals have. And when mental privacy might yield, for example, to societal interest in certain contexts. Nita Farahany: The other aspect of it is things like data, use and data agreements. And so the Gdpr addresses some aspects of data use. There are different laws within the United States in different jurisdictions that address biometric collection and use. And the question is whether or not we treat this Nita Farahany: as being part of those bigger biometric laws. If we carve out something as uniquely sensitive with respect to brain data, or if we focus instead on the inferences that can be drawn from different kinds of data to get it brains and mental experiences. I favor this last category is the way to think about it which is inferences that can be drawn. Nita Farahany: But I also think that there is something unique about Nita Farahany: accessing directly brain activity and the chilling effect that that has on people. And so I I talk about that as one of the aspects that we need to think about, and i'll just put on the table, which is. Nita Farahany: I was talking with a. With the founder of Open Bci last week, and we were talking about. You know what my data use. Agreements look like that companies could adopt, which would give people personal control over their data. Nita Farahany: but still enable them to share with researchers and scientists for the aggregation of data. For you know, being able to discover a lot more about our brains, and to be able to solve many of the issues that arise from neurological disease and suffering. And I think a lot of people within the neurotic industry are exploring that option which is to figure out Nita Farahany: what could we do to give people kind of personal, whether it's through web, 3 or blockchain or other. You know kind of options, personal control over brain data that they could then share through interoperability and standards that might be set to enable those those additional insights. Francis Shen: Yeah, I I I think I mean my view is, you know, combination, as you say of these these things is going to be needed. And of course, country-specific. I mean, you know culture specific delay. Speaking of different cultures, there are 2 questions here that I think i'm going to pair it together. And Francis Shen: the first question which comes from Anushka Dahlani asked, Could you talk about how advances in neuro tech could impact benefit advances in other scientific field specifically anti-aging and human longevity. And there was an additional question from an anonymous attendee which asked. Francis Shen: Have you run these? I need a Have you run these ideas past older adults. and i'm curious about both of them like they're not the exact same question, but they're kind of in the same same bucket. I asked you the question about the developing brain. So let's look at Nita Farahany: wait. So what was the first question. The second question is around senior citizens. But yeah, and the first question here is about the implications of neuro tech for really anti-aging human one. Yeah. Yeah. So that stuff's interesting. Right in the last second to last chapter of the book beyond human, I do talk about some of the Nita Farahany: possibilities of human longevity. Whether that's through things like brain uploading that people have described, or some of the really innovative work like Nanod Susten and his team's work on Brain X to be able to figure out if there are aspects of the human brain Nita Farahany: and damage that occurs over time that could be reversed, and even questions about Nita Farahany: different aspects of the brain, where we start to see deterioration over time, whether it's sooner or degenerative diseases, or you know things like glutathionine, and it's depletion over time. And whether the more we learn about the brain and the more brain sensors, for example, are used in everyday life, if we might not gain insights Nita Farahany: that would enable us to be able to address a lot of these questions with respect to human longevity. both the causes, potentially treatments and reversibility of it. I have talked to seniors, and it's interesting because I think the most Nita Farahany: a common response I get from them is, thank goodness, I will not be alive to see some of these changes, and you know. So it's it's, you know. I think I think people quickly see the Dystopian side of it, and it's harder for Nita Farahany: people to imagine what the like that the promise really will outweigh the risk, and that is a possibility, right? I mean. It is possible that it will become so dystopian that it is hard for us to actually achieve a vision of the world where we we realize the benefits of it. Nita Farahany: I'm hopeful that we can get out ahead of it, so that that's not the case. I'm hopeful that the benefits Nita Farahany: to brain health and wellness, and addressing and understanding the burden and toll of neurological disease and suffering that we could discover through this technology are promising enough that we can realize that future, but that that's the most common response. Thank goodness, I will not be allowed for. Nita Farahany: Well you may be. I mean you. You consider yourself, do you? Are you a futurist? I've seen that in your buy, or sometimes you are. Yeah. So I mean, like radical life extension. So not in that way. I mean, i'm a Futurist, and you know, sort of realize, finally that that's what I am, which is. Nita Farahany: you know, the first thing that I did when I graduated from college is I. I worked at a strategy consulting company, and for 3 years what they taught me were: we're tools of forecasting Nita Farahany: from trend analysis to you know, mathematical modeling to, you know, being able to estimate and understand the size of industries and the direction, and how to track the different metrics of progress and in a field. Nita Farahany: And I've been applying that throughout my career to you know, technological development and scientific development across genomics and AI and neurot tech. And I finally realized, oh, that's Futurism is that kind of you know, methodological and analytical forecasting of where things are going. Nita Farahany: It's just I combine that Futurism with trying to then understand the legal and ethical implications, and how we might get out ahead of it. But that's what I'm really drawn to is Nita Farahany: the directionality of change in technologies and forecasting more so than you know, kind of technologies that are already here and spending a lot of time thinking about those. I think I think there's kind of a place for each of us in that landscape, and Nita Farahany: mine is. I. I like thinking about where things are going and trying to help to assess it. Francis Shen: If I could pick up on that thread a couple of questions from students have basically asked some version of Okay. So what my careers look like in the New World. Your painting, what I would ask is. Francis Shen: how do we train the next generation of? And I don't even know what the fields are, exactly how you would fill it in Francis Shen: to help us take the right fork and the right path. As we. We appreciate this fork, and maybe you can talk about your own Francis Shen: background, which is really interdisciplinary. I mean, you're ostensibly a law professor, but not like most law. Professor, you're doing all these amazing things. You run a lab, you you you run all of like deep science and society. So so maybe there's part bio question in there, too. But just Francis Shen: it. It feels like for these new challenges. We need to rethink a little bit about how we're preparing our our next generation One, If you can talk about that and any concrete advice you'd have for students who are on this Webinar now, and getting excited about what you're saying and wanting to do something. Nita Farahany: So I say, you and I are both weird in that regard, for instance, the kind of career great. So I think this is one that we could take together and talking about different ways to people to shape your career path, because, you know, we both, I think, have developed labs, and you know, work on difference Nita Farahany: government entities, and you know I work with companies, and and I suspect you do as well and kind of helping to advise them about the ethical pathway forward. And also i'm a law professor who runs and found a duke, science and society. Nita Farahany: I think Nita Farahany: I think there is a lot of different ways to come at the problem, and i'd be interested in your reflections on the same, which is, I've always been interested in the intersection between the legal, the kind of normative and the science and the technology. And so that's really my scientific. Nita Farahany: legal, and philosophical background was bringing those different disciplines together, and then looking at the issue at the intersection of them. Nita Farahany: But you know there are a huge number of questions to be asked from the technological side, from the privacy, scholar side, from the cyber security side, from the you know kind of Nita Farahany: sociology of all of this, from cultural anthropology from the history, and being able to use history to both, inform the future of it. I think I think there isn't a right pathway forward. It's a uniquely interdisciplinary space where a lot of different voices need to come together. Nita Farahany: you know, to to help understand that the clinical side, the physician side the patient advocacy side the democratic deliberation and policymakers side. So I I think it's Nita Farahany: finding your passion. And for me my passion was trying to address the intersection of these questions in a particular way, and that's what drove me for the degrees that I got, and for the opportunities that I've taken on. But it's it's figuring out Nita Farahany: what you're what drives you, what questions drive you, what impact you want to have, and what kind of contribution you want to make as a result, and from what angle you want to do it. But I don't know you. You also are weird like me, so to like. What do you think I think I think I I can curt everything you you said I. I actually would again. I really like. Francis Shen: as I mentioned the outset, that your book is not. I mean your Futurist. You're not attacking. The technology is a bad thing, and you you Francis Shen: have multiple examples where, through conversations you're working with these companies, you know. And now helping them, I think to see things. Maybe the others. It's one exchange, right? You basically that you say Well, these have never thought of that right. And so you're helping them to think about these things, and I think going into it in a collaborative Francis Shen: tone is just so so important but collaborative. But you're also standing up for what you would want us to have as a universal human right. So we might have time for a couple more audience questions, but I want to get one more in, and you'd know I'd ask about the criminal justice system. I'm sure. So I want to read. There's the end of this chapter, the last fortress, and Francis Shen: you argue that mental privacy is a critical aspect of cognitive liberty. But, like all privacy interests. It is not absolute. People can and should have the right to give others access to the brain activity. There will be times when we want to do so to promote research and our exchanges for goods and services. Francis Shen: And here's what I want to get to. There will be times that society will demand the tracking of our brain activity when the lives or others are at risk. Francis Shen: So I see this playing out already, actually in the criminal justice system. I see some people called it digital prisons, others probably me see it as a much more humane future than locking people up. Francis Shen: But i'm wondering what you think about how we balance this this right to cognitive liberty for someone who has done some act of interpersonal violence, who has some history of serious mental illness, who is now being released back in society. Francis Shen: and we have the opportunity, for the first time ever not to rely on like check-ins with the parole officer every 2 weeks, but to get 24 over 7 data on this individual we might be able to see the the volcano before it erupts. Francis Shen: But Of course that sounds is that you dystopian? Is that Utopian like? How do you think about this balancing of rights specifically in the criminal justice domain? Nita Farahany: Yeah. Nita Farahany: It's both right. A Dystopian and Utopian, and Nita Farahany: you know it's always important with emerging tech to look at it compared to the status quo right? And I think a lot of times people look at technology in a vacuum rather than by what we're already doing Nita Farahany: right. I mean automated vehicles is in, you know, and kind of self-driving vehicles is a good comparison to that which is like, yeah, they sometimes get into accidents. And so to humans. And so, then the question is, you know. Are they worse? Are they better than the status quo? And Nita Farahany: you know, right now we do really dystopian things to prisoners, solitary confinement and prison and prison conditions, and people who are mentally ill, not getting any of the resources and help that they need. And people who are, you know, deeply. Nita Farahany: you know, addicted to drugs and other, you know, devices or children who are being sent away for life, and all that to me is horrific in the way in which we actually currently approach one Nita Farahany: justice. And so the question is, can neuro tech help? And in some ways it can. It can both help us understand what we're doing right? The research itself can help us understand what is the impact of solitary confinement? What is the impact on prison? What is the impact of Nita Farahany: the different choices that we're making. And then this kind of idea of the Nita Farahany: tracking right, whether it's ankle, bracelets, or you know other forms of brain sensing, tracking, or even more whole moral rehabilitation. Could that be done? Well, it could be, Could it be done in horrific ways that Nita Farahany: overwrite people's brains, overwrite their autonomy, violate their cognitive liberty, and become deeply problematic. Yes. Nita Farahany: you do lose some liberty rights when you commit a crime, and society. I think, has a right to deprive you of some aspects of your liberty when you have committed a crime, especially a violent crime against another person; and since these rights, since Nita Farahany: cognitive liberty is not an absolutely right, but a relative right Nita Farahany: figuring out where we're going to carve out that balance between liberty. Nita Farahany: You know that you have given up as a result of committing a crime, versus how much we can take from you in a sense like how much we're justified, and taking from you, and how intrusive it is with the mechanisms that we imagine in digital prisons or otherwise. Nita Farahany: I think that's you know we're going to figure that out where to figure out both what the technology can do and when it's justified. But sometimes by comparison to the status quo, it may be better than what we're currently doing. Francis Shen: I think we probably have time for one more audience Question I'll. I'll ask this question from Federico Fernandez Kepka, and I think it reflects, probably some questions that others have. So the question is, do you think that accepting these neuro technologies. Francis Shen: I would create an issue of over medical aside over medicalizing the brain and begin a path to create an ideal brain or incentivize a certain type of brain activity and stigmatize Francis Shen: other types of brain activity, which I guess is another way of asking about neurodiversity as well. And if we can't all agree on what the good life is, how can we all agree with the good brain is, how do you approach? How do you answer that question? Nita Farahany: Here there is a risk of becoming deeply reductionistic about the brain. And and I I I talk in, I remember which chapter, but I think it's the chapter on Mental Manipulation, which is about the seductive allure of neuroscience and kind of reducing people to the kind of Nita Farahany: you know their brains and their puzzle pieces. I wrote a OP-LED recently for the La Times about the use of cognitive and personality testing for the workplace, and how we've already started to try to reduce people to their cognitive and effective functionings, and how that's discriminating against people with neuro atypical brains. Nita Farahany: even though that may have nothing to do with who makes a good employee, or what a good fit is. Nita Farahany: there's definitely a risk that we go that path. The more we understand about the brain or reduce it to bits and bytes, rather than taking into account the whole person. There's also a possibility on the other side, which is, we all discover that we're, you know, on a spectrum of neuro atypicality, and that that kind of idea that most of us have Nita Farahany: about our own brains and mental experiences, or lack of biases or neurotypicality, turns out not to be accurate, and that with better data we start to recognize the broader diversity of human brains and mental experiences and cognitive and effective functions. Nita Farahany: So it's a bit of an empirical question. I think what we do with it, and it's a bit of a normative question of what we choose to do with it. Both of those things, I think, will play out over time, and we just have to be attendant to the risk Nita Farahany: of the kind of reductionist tendencies that we have when it comes to explanations about the brain and behavior. Francis Shen: Yeah, I so I that that makes sense in our last minute and a half or so. Maybe you'll want to not answer, but so let's say we're at the we're at the crossroads I read the book as Francis Shen: I don't know 51 49 thinking that we could get. We're going to go the right way that it I took. I. My reading of the book, was Professor Farahani thinks that we can achieve this brighter future. And then we actually will kind of a a, a a rally to arms, You know I I referenced the summit that we had. Francis Shen: There was some really deep pessimism. They're like we're not at that. The fork in the road was like 5,100, you know, way back like this is just the the story Ain't changing. Francis Shen: Did I read that right? Are you? Are you ultimately optimistic here, or are you really agnostic? And it's going to depend on collectively what, whoever that we is, what what we do. Maybe you can end on that note Francis Shen: where this is all headed. Nita Farahany: I am more optimistic now than I, even when I wrote and finish the book. And that's because of Nita Farahany: the collective awakening. I think that's happening in the face of the rapid changes with AI, Nita Farahany: and the fact that you see so many people in a younger generation, for example, choosing to unplug from devices and read books. And you know I I see a kind of pendulum swip like swinging in the opposite direction. Nita Farahany: I think there is a very dystopian path, and so for you to say 5,149 is Nita Farahany: probably right, like it's not like I'm like this is all going to turn out great if we just make some good choices right now. It's all gonna be fine, right? Nita Farahany: I think there is a very Orwellian vision of this future that's ahead of us. If we Don't make some radical changes now, and you know I am optimistic in this moment that those kinds of radical changes are possible, and that we have the political will, and we have the Nita Farahany: collective consciousness to do so. But if we don't make those choices. you know it it won't. Be good. Francis Shen: Well, that's a great way to end. Professor. Far on me. Thank you for joining us. The book. Francis Shen: the battle for your brain available everywhere all Anita at Nita, far honey on Twitter and thank you for being here. This is a lot of fun. We learned a lot, and we'll be in touch. Thanks for the rich conversation, and thank you for joining thanks. Everyone take care, bye, bye, and the the Webinar.
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How To Spot A Female Narcissist
[Music] [Applause] [Music] how to spot a female narcissist female narcissists always seem to think that they're so unique they seem to think that they are so different from everyone else yet they all share the same traits they all behave in the exact same way they are very manipulative they are always scheming calculating always trying to figure out a way to get something out of you [Music] they can be grandiose they can be impressive or imposing an appearance or style especially pretentiously so they have an unrealistic sense of superiority they consider people of certain class intelligence beauty or heritage to be inferior to them they have an inflated sense of self-importance they believe that they are more important than other people [Music] which gives them a strong sense of entitlement they believe that they are inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment [Music] female narcissists spend most of their time reinforcing their fragile sense of selves [Music] they are very insecure and unsure about themselves so they need constant reassurance from other people [Music] constant attention and aberration which often causes them to manipulate people but they don't care about those people they don't even see them as real human beings [Music] they're just objects that the female narcissist uses to prop up her false self [Music] female narcissists can be physically and emotionally abusive especially to people who they believe to be wrong or inferior to them if you don't do what they want when they want they will punish you they will no longer attend to your needs they will withhold affection [Music] they will guilt-trip you they will use denial projection blame shifting gaslighting and a double bind [Music] sometimes they will do this covertly other times they will do it in an open and unashamed manner either way they will do it without [Music] remorse female narcissists always act like they're the victims they will exaggerate their discomfort or distress in order to obtain sympathy there will always be chaos and drama there will always be some type of problem they will always seem to be suffering from something [Music] they will portray this image and so they are sacrificing more than what is necessary to get attention praise or sympathy from the people around them they expect you to see it as though their pain and suffering is worse than anyone else's [Music] female narcissists are very superficial they only care about things that exist on the surface [Music] they don't really value or have any interest in anything deeper than that they care more about their image of reputation they care more about material items like having the biggest house or the most expensive car they will brag about how great their family is while telling them the opposite when no one is around they see it as though whatever they like or before the other choice or option is bad or wrong there are no alternatives with a female narcissist they have this my way or the highway mentality [Music] they are self-absorbed and lack empathy they lack the capacity to consider anything than their own selfish needs [Music] they are excessively focused on their image and appearance [Music] they have to wear the most expensive clothes the most luxurious brands many of them will even go under the knife in a desperate attempt to perfect their image but just because someone cares about how they present themselves that doesn't always make them a narcissist [Music] it depends on how they perceive and treat other people female narcissists think that they're superior to most people and they treat those people of disdain or disrespect [Music] female narcissists will judge other females who focus on their appearance when they see women who have made an effort to present themselves this may feel threatening to the female narcissist [Music] they will imply that these women are beneath them because they are trying to get attention but they will also point out people who they consider to be neglecting their appearance [Music] and they will rate them on a scale as though it's a fashion contest the female narcissist will judge anyone who chooses to look differently than she does female narcissist is always right no matter what and if you dare to question the female narcissist she will not hesitate to tell you all the reasons why you are wrong female narcissists are extremely jealous and competitive especially with other women [Music] the female narcissist has to feel like she is the most successful most attractive the most intelligent [Music] or whatever they define to be the most desirable qualities if you are a woman who makes the female narcissist feel threatened in any way they will bully you in a cruel and violent manner they will become angry and aggressive [Music] they will try to make you feel shame they will try to make you feel humiliation or distress and so you have engaged in wrong or foolish behavior they will smear your name and try to get everyone to see you in the same way in an attempt to cut you out of a community or social group there is nothing a narcissist won't do to get their needs met [Music] female narcissistic mothers are very controlling they don't care about how their children feel or what they want they will control their children's lives even when they become adults even when their children try to move out and find their own home the female narcissist will design their house to suit their own taste or they will get involved in their relationships female narcissists have a set standard relationship partners for their children [Music] they will demand them to raise their children in a certain way [Music] everything has to be done in the way that the female narcissist prefers there are differences between female and male narcissists female narcissists are more likely to play the victim they are more likely to exaggerate their discomfort or distress in order to obtain sympathy they are more likely to use their appearance or sexuality to manipulate people they will use their bodies to get what they want until they age and it gets to a point where their bodies are no longer desirable that is when they will become more forceful they will engage in coercive control where they persuade you to do something by using force or threats when female narcissists can no longer use their bodies to manipulate people they will become even more controlling even more bitter and resentful and even more vengeful if you refuse to do what they want thank you for watching [Music] i hope this video resonated with you please like comment share and subscribe click the bell icon to receive notifications for my future videos check out the new knox survival website at www.knoxsurvivor.com uk where you can read my blog post book coaching sessions and join our support forum if you would like to donate my paypal link is in the video description coaching inquiries you can email me at coaching.netsurvivor.com thank you for watching and i'll talk to you soon [Music] you
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Collaboration Efren Robles
we work a lot with collaborations you know using different entities CHS local artists trying to make people understand the value of using the local products for example on a recipe that or a protein in your home where you can use it on two three times a week the impact that that protein will have on the benefit of the health and the economy of that so it's an education you know Journey we we try to to speak not only about Puerto Rico but about the local production you know around the world we got I've been doing some traveling and everywhere you go it's kind of the same principle you know you have to be you have to understand what food processes have been going through and and what we're trying to do is provide the chef with all these great products so they can compete and at the same time that's going to create a snowball you know of people trying to imitate what they do but trying to also cultivate those product to make sure that they can develop great plates you know
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What is the price of a small home Temecula
remember when it's all said and done your real estate marketing is about getting the right message to the right market on the right media okay i want you to forget ranking just for a second um of course it's important but some things you don't even need to think about it what you need to focus on is long tail keywords or niches something that is of high intent low search volume but the right niche can bag you a listing in no time flat let me show you how so here's how this might work you've got a um a potential client somebody's selling their house and it's rather small might be one of the smallest houses in the neighborhood and they want to find out what they should price it at are they going to call a realtor right now probably not they may go to something like zillow and then they'll have to do a sort in zillow and they might try by price or by square feet if they try by price they can not quite find what they want right away and so then they'll try square feet and at least you can see houses once you sort through the right page so you go to the end and you have to back up until you start running into houses that are not lot and land for sale and you can look and see which ones are are houses with the building and so here we've got an instance where there's a home for eight hundred thousand dollars so that'll throw you off because it's 902 square feet supposedly it's valuable because it's in a historic district or it's one of the oldest houses i don't know but it's been on the market for what was it 75 days which is like meaning it's not going to sell and then the next one is a condo maybe by time you're looking at this then you got a 1192 square foot home a house for sale 500 000 and so depending on whether they have the savvy to look and see about days on market or something like that then they're getting some information maybe they're well here's what's really going to happen eventually you're going to go for a search that's completely different you stop looking at prices of homes you realize at this point you need a realtor you start looking at realtors that meet the qualifications to sell your home especially as it's in a niche [Music] call now or go to my website at davekeys.com please like and subscribe thank you
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Canada's Hundred Days: With the Canadian Corps from Amiens to Mons, Aug. 8 - Nov. 11, | 1/3
part 4 chapter 1 of canada's 100 days this is a librivox recording all librivox recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer please visit librivox.org canada's 100 days by john libsay part 4 chapter 1 battle pieces on september 28 canadian corps headquarters moved from nouvelle vitas into what had been an enemy headquarters situated in the heart of the drukor khan line half a mile east of khan the new camp is on rising ground and remains fairly dry even in wet weather a pleasant change from our previous quarters the enemy had here constructed elaborate dugouts 30 feet below the surface with commodious canvas line rooms but for the most part the staff works and sleeps in tents grouped in and about a little wood the hole camouflaged against air observation the enemy persistently shells our real head at ca with a long distance gun whose shell at stated intervals goes whining over the cap train loads of prisoners standing overnight in the yards waiting to be moved to the base protest at our inhumanity little damage is done though one shell lands in the lines of the core garage several canadian ambulances are located at kaw but escape injury there joins a canadian corps about this time a young staff officer lent by the british army who at once makes himself very popular this is his royal highness the prince of wales some of us had apprehensions of an atmosphere of swank and embarrassment but these are speedily set at rest he lives like any other staff officer in an armstrong hut and soon he is a familiar figure chatting freely with both officers and men and it is not long before gso number two is regarded as a distinct acquisition to core he brings with him a charm and diversity of manner one thought of his grandfather king edward that sets us all at our ease an unstudied courtesy and friendly interest that breaks down the most crested reserve with a keenness for his work that at times must be a source of anxiety to those responsible for his well-being for he is never so happy as when rotting around the front line and has a way of slipping off by himself and paying unexpected visits to battalion and company headquarters it is after one of these when his host was clearly overcome by the honor unexpectedly thrust upon him that he remarks he couldn't have been afraid of me it must have been the name so through several weeks he weaves his unconscious charm and when he comes to leave us it is with reluctance on his part and regret on ours for not even the sternest democrat among us whether officer or man in the ranks can long resist a winning personality whose frankness disarms while his natural unassuming bearing wins confidence and even affection it is a valuable experience on both sides citizens of a democratic country like canada are accustomed to the aloof detachment and cultivated superiority of their great ones in a word to the snobbishness of wealth and power and it is a delightful contrast defined in the heir to the throne a fine simplicity and the easy assumption of equality among soldiers and friends this impression is so genuine so spontaneous that one hears his praises on every hand gentlemen the prince of wales will dine with us tomorrow night and i want you all to be in your places this injunction of the mess president was not needed and that evening will always be remembered by members of the friendly sea mess as a most delightful experience most of us might be described by the ungenerous as old fogies but that night we refurbished our youth and gave the prince a good old-fashioned canadian welcome it is at kaw that news comes to the canadian core of the armistice proposals enemy accepts unconditionally wilson's terms agrees to evacuate and asks for an immediate armistice i don't think we'll listen to that for a while everything is going fine and the spirit of our men is splendid comments an officer of the fifth cmr first to enter combre where the news reached him we must have an unconditional surrender or in two months time he will be ready to start at us again and one of his men adds we lads have been at it a long time but we want to see it through even if we stay six months or a year it is interesting to collect these views while the news is yet hot he knows he's beaten we'll have our own peace this winter says a private from the ottawa valley a tommy from west riding when jerry comes knocking at the door with his pride in his pocket he must be in a pretty bad way a cook of the 87th battalion we've got him going and must keep pushing him along if he had us where we had him he wouldn't listen to soft soap peace offers it's the rind for us when we get there next year he'll knuckle down another man of the same battalion grenadier guards of montreal they'll know how to deal with him bullets are the only peace argument the bosh can understand a sergeant who was reputed to have charged the machine gun nest at bluecourt with his bare fists the hunt is bankrupt we must make him liquidate to the last cent of his assets our widows and orphans demand it that can be done only by the sword the captain of an imperial heavy battery working his guns from the slope of borland wood is of the same opinion i don't like it he says the enemy is short of men and material he is crippled for lack of fuel guns and his ammunition seems running low he'll drag on peace negotiations for three months and then go at us again indeed this news excites more apprehension than hope for the canadian soldier the cherished approach to brawler wood must ever be from hcn artois over the canal de noir and then up winding slopes past quarry wood crossing the marquis line and so through berlong town this village still beautiful clings beneath the brow of the wood the walls of the great chateau remain and something of the handsome church tower its condition better than its neighbors offers a practical foundation for rebuilding seen against the dark mass of upclimbing wood even the white flake of ruin adds a decorative touch to the charming picture of red roofs and gray stone the town is very old for centuries it has looked out over the veil to the western height crowned by the boida bush on the very crest of the wood where the road runs south to anjou lies a tank of the c2 class the salon number 2724 flotsam of the first battle of cambray one of her endless chains broken by a direct hit she must have run off the roadbed force your eyes tilted at an extravagant angle over an enemy dugout another shell struck the roof the bosch had stripped her engines and all internal fittings nature has taken her to herself and in her mossy decrepitude she is part and parcel of the soil for the revolving treads carry on their upper surfaces deposits of earth on these little gardens have sprung up the seed borne by birds and the wind they resemble miniature kindergarten classes for on this roof of steel now flourish grass and clover bindweed and buttercup daisies and ragged robin even through her broken tractor a little beech tree struggles good tank salon you did not achieve that eminence and there rendered your life until your task was done for even as you floundered and stopped there came the sharp yell of the infantry as they fell upon the bosch gunners with bayonet and balm within a stone's throw to the left where the raised road gives protection lies an enemy 5.9 inch battery position shells already fused stand in place but the guns are on their way to the canadian core captured gun park a light railway turns up to the battery from fontaine notre dame most of the dugouts are unfurnished and blind the bosch was packing in for the winter even as we fell upon him on the west end of the wood is a wonderful opip built up into the trees commanding a wide sweep of country in front of the marquis line and the canal dinor nearby are two eight-inch guns captured by bing the previous november but not removed and still lying there rusted and impressive the top of the wood intact though it seems from a distance is blasted only splintered trunks remain and these two must die the trees in this wood have been nurtured with blood remarked a captured german officer but on the southern and eastern slopes the ancient growth of oak and beach is unscathed clothing the steep hillside blackberries are thick in the underbrush a rabbit pops in and out what a showplace for the british tourists says our companion a frank ahead to see the famous wood and the graves let them hear amid their sandwiches and orange peel pour out a libation to the heroes of england and of canada who died upon these slopes standing on the crest of burlong wood one surveys the battlefield not alone of today but of november 1917. from dawn until dark in and around werlow wood four british divisions here withstood overwhelming masses of the enemy and so saved the army from disaster for them perhaps weary and bleeding it was sufficient that they had done their duty as became british soldiers modest steadfast and cheerful in adversity his ingenuity constantly at work to belittle his own part in the show the british soldier whether of the old army or the new is instinct an eminent degree with those qualities of mind and spirit that it won't enable him to bear undaunted the brunt of battle the anguish of the long gears of trench warfare and so his spirit unshaken when through to final victory such thoughts arise as one looks over the famous field and comes to a german military cemetery where lies honorably buried many of these gallant british soldiers who fell in november 1917. canada's share in this now common heritage or burl wood has been recorded in the preceding pages in no battle where her armies were engaged was there greater need for no more successful application of those special qualities of personal initiative and resource such as become second nature to men enured to the free life of the farm the mining camp or the shanty in the land where even the city dweller from his boyhood up is accustomed once a year to take down his rifle from its rack and disappear for a treasured interval into the silent fastnesses of the red deer or moose for these the long winter evenings glow with reminiscences of the chase of toil and hearty adventure they exhibit proudly their trophies they have now been engaged on a more bitter sport and in the years to come those of them who came through will carry a vivid picture of the dark outline of bruno wood and will cherish the memory of their comrades who lie close and ordered in the canadian cemetery behind bergholm town at foot of the wooded slope the sad news comes to the core at khan one day that major general l j lipset who had so brilliantly commanded the third canadian division until after the close of the battle of aras the preceding month had been killed by a sniper's bullet on october 14 while reckon ordering in the front line of his new command the fourth british division at the outbreak of the war general lipset who was an officer of the british army and had been lent to the canadian militia was stationed at winnipeg and proceeded immediately to recruit the 8th battalion from the 90th winnipeg rifles little black devils of the real rebellion fame taking his unit overseas with the first canadian division it was this battalion that in april 1915 held the line in the second battle of yupre in face of the enemy's first gas attack general lipset was successively promoted to command of the brigade and the third canadian division whereas find leadership a courage that amounted to recklessness his consideration for his officers and care for his men soon endeared him to all ranks the war however was clearly drawing to a close and there could be no future for a professional soldier of his rank with the reduced canadian militia and so he accepted the offer of the command of the fourth british division regretfully parting from his old comrades but with the head of him the fairly certain and speedy prospect of a core command in the british army and now he is dead the canadian corps buries him at kha where the civil cemetery has long overflowed its bounds to give shelter to friend and full alike it is a great and impressive gathering in the drizzling rain of an autumn afternoon a hollow square of men from every branch of the canadian core and particularly from his beloved third division encloses the open grave lying there in the heart of no man's land all round about are solemn hills their bare outlines pitted by shell holes and serrated by the white line of trenches while across them stretch dark and forbidding belts of wire presently i heard the poignant strains of a funeral march and the cortege approaches his old battalion the eighth furnishes the firing party the men marching with dragging feet and arms reversed behind walk with bowed heads the corps commander the prince of wales officers of the fourth british division and many of his tried comrades of the canadian corps there is something strikingly impressive even barbaric about the rights of a military funeral and this is heightened by the time the place and the circumstance but at length all is over the funeral oration pronounced the last fall he fired the last post sounded a great soldier and a good citizen has been laid to his rest it was the last we were to see of no man's land next day core headquarters moved to loire end of part 4 chapter 1. part 4 chapter 2 of canada's 100 days this is a librivox recording all librivox recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer please visit librivox.org recording by james o'connor canada's hundred days by john livesay part 4 chapter 2 operations october 6 to 16. saratha curry describes the general situation at this period as follows while the canadian corps was tenaciously fighting to break through the hinge of the hindenburg system of defense the third and fourth british armies were pushing forward through the devastated areas in the psalm meeting everywhere strong and determined rear guards the outer defenses of the hindenburg line were captured by them on september 18 and 19 and a good position secured for the assault on the main defenses the storming of the canal denal line which brought the canadian corps definitely behind the areas organized for defense was immediately followed by the capture of the main hindenburg line on the fronts of the third and fourth armies and on october 8 and 10 the shell canal was crossed north of cambre cambrere was seized and the german rear guards pushed back an open country to the cell river the germans were falling back everywhere they had now evacuated completely the lee's salient and a portion of the ground east and south of lynn's but they were still holding a line west of lille douay and along the canal de la sin sea the canadian corps although tired and depleted in numbers began to push forward as soon as it had taken over the new front on the canal de la siensie south of douay on october 14 the second army in conjunction with belgian armies and french detachments attacked the northern part of the salient and precipitated the german retreat while cambray was falling and our second division was pushing out east of the city the first canadian division had taken over its new ground north of the scarp and was making headway on a front that had remained practically static since the canadian corps at the end of august had opened the battle of varus north of the scarp and of the sin see the line of enemy defenses was still intact that is to say the hindenburg line proper the draw core keont line and subsidiary trench systems it was the possession by the enemy of this terrain that so greatly added to the difficulties encountered by the canadian corps throughout their progress from aras to cambre the time had now come to break through and bring the northern flank into line with our advanced east of cambra an area now transferred to the 22nd core the canadian corps led by the first canadian division moving into the area that corps had hitherto held it followed therefore that while hitherto the 22nd corps had occupied the center of the first army front and the canadian corps its right the positions were reversed the canadian corps becoming the center and the 22nd corps instead of being on our left were henceforth to be our neighbors on the right a position occupied by the 17th corps of the third army our neighbors on our left were now the eighth corps this being the left of the first army its remaining core the first corps had been transferred with its sector on september 20 to the fifth army operating north of lynn's on the night of october 6-7 the first canadian division took up their new line south of the marshes of the sin sea and scarp from palu where the canal do not crosses the sin sea west to saili in ostravon and then northwest to bias sandvast but keeping south of the little trinkui brook the division therefore faced north the second brigade being on the right and the third brigade on the left with the first brigade in support they signaled their presence by a night raid across this watery waste into enemy territory returning with an officer and 23 other prisoners the first prisoners by the way captured in this sector during october at 5 am on october 8 a chinese attack was put on all sound and fury with no intention of attacking in force the object being to discover the enemy's strength however a post was pushed over and established across the river for purposes of observation october 9 the line remained quiet but early next morning our patrols pushed over and captured saeely and in advanced some distance along the kion drill core line capturing an officer and 47 other ranks the object of this demonstration was if possible to pin the bosch down to that front he counter-attacked in great strength and our object being gained we re-crossed the river leaving saeili again in his hands these preliminaries had disclosed his dispositions and at three o'clock next morning october 11 a concerted night attack was made in conjunction with the eighth core on our left undercover of a great concentration of artillery on our right the second brigade crossed the sin sea at torta kenneth from which the enemy had been blasted by our artillery and seized the dominant feature montbedu a hill to the northwest the attacking troops being the 8th battalion of winnipeg on the right the 5th battalion saskatchewan in the center and 7th battalion british columbia on the left with the 10th battalion of alberta in support canadian engineers speedily built bridges across all the country being flooded with only two practical causeways on our left the third brigade attacked with the 16th battalion canadian scottish of western canada on the right and the 15th battalion 48th highlanders of toronto on the left both crossing the triqui and then advancing the former in the direction of noyel sue belong and the latter in the direction of vitri in atoa on the scarp where contact was established with the eighth core which had advanced from its line easterly whereas our advance was due north the design being to cut the enemy out of the triangle formed by the tricky and the scarf the advance was continued throughout the day and by nightfall the second brigade had captured armelle s trees and below from two to three thousand yards east northeast and north respectively while the third brigade had pushed up to a line one thousand yards south of brabiera only five thousand yards southwest of douay thus on the same day that the second canadian division was capturing ewe about 15 miles to the southeast the first canadian division holding 14 000 yards of front and attacking on a 12 000 yard frontage employing only two brigades carried its line across a watery waste and penetrated in a northerly direction five to six thousand yards thus threatening to cut off the enemy's retreat through deway on our left the eighth british division had also a very successful day since october 7th it had fought its way from just east of opie through the friend ruvwa line and now made a frontal attack on the drokhwar kiant line north of the scarp simultaneously with the turning movement of the first canadian division from the south quote at 5 10 am the middle sex and devons attacked says the first army narrative and at seven a.m the droquoquian line opposite was taken except for the town of vitri on the scarp the way in which this formidable line was taken was ingenious and psychological a heavy barrage was put down not on the whole line attacked which would have pinned the enemy to fighting for his dugouts but only on the extreme southern part of the line then slowly very slowly 100 yards and eight minutes but surely and inevitably it crept northwards extending along the german trenches the men in those trenches still free from death and destruction raining down further south saw it creeping creeping creeping nearer and more near the tension was increased by the slowness of the barrage extension it was too much and the bosch decided not to wait for what was coming but to get out while the opportunity offered a moving description but the psychology of the enemy seems to have changed somewhat since those bitter days six weeks before when the canadian corps drove him out of the drokor kion line on the south side of the scarp meantime a platoon of the middlesex had crossed the scarp at v3 this narrative continues and taken montmettiere a commanding position about one thousand yards south of the river this was trespassing the south of the river was the canadian sector so to them it was handed over and its possession much assisted their advance our attack followed up the retiring enemy and by nightfall the line ran from well beyond beaumont around a very pronounced central salient and back to the scarp about 600 yards east of vitri the advance ranged from 4 000 yards on the flanks to 8 000 in the center the berkshires were here and gave us much material and stores which the enemy had no time to remove or destroy from this moment until the 8th division in its victorious advance crossed the scarf and entered douay the enemy fought for every bit of ground using many concealed artillery and machine gun positions while we had a great deal of wire to pass booby traps of varied and ingenious kinds were everywhere odd bits of timber apparently thrown carelessly down helmets strands of wire all among the harmless debris and material left by the retreating enemy on october 12 the attack was continued our first brigade coming into the line and a wide pivoting movement being carried out based on arlu which had been captured by the 56th british division now under the canadian corps command all three brigades of the first canadian division advanced in line their left flanks sweeping the south bank of the scarp until by nightfall they had cleared the enemy out of the triangle formed by the scarp the canal dunor and the sin sea and held a line on the west bank of the canal dunor between arlu corbin harm this mocked in 30 hours in advance on the pivoting wing of 9 000 yards many prisoners and a considerable number of machine guns being captured the next few days was spent in preparing for a concerted attack by the canadian corps whose divisions were now reunited on the right the second canadian division which had relieved the 11th british division and held the line from bouchard west to obin shul or bach was to cross the flooded area of the sin sea attacking in a northerly direction in the center of the 4th canadian division which was coming up in relief of the 56th british division was to make a similar attack from obinshu al-baq west to arlu and on the left the first canadian division was to storm the line of the canal de nor north of the sin sea and advance in an easterly direction the third canadian division was under orders to relieve our first division but in the event so swift was our advance that the relief could not be made until some days after the date determined sarathakharian is dispatched thus describes the events of these days quote the new front of the canadian corps at 5 pm october 11 extended from ewe dinar railway north of ewe to the shelt canal at estran thence following the southern bank of the canal de los in sea to paloel thence crossing the cincy river at amel to the scop river east of vitri the front was held by the 2nd canadian division from the right to the shelt canal the 11th division from estran inclusive to obenshule obach exclusive the 56th division from oban shul obak inclusive to palowell inclusive and the first canadian division from palo el exclusive to the western boundary the fronts of the 11th and 56th divisions within stationary but on the front of the first canadian division crossings had been forced over the sin see and trinkuy rivers that morning the enemy was retiring closely followed by battle patrols of the first canadian division the first canadian division had relieved the fourth british division in the line along the south side of the valleys of the sin sea and trincui rivers from palo alto exclusive to the scarp during the nights of october 5 to 6 and 6 to 7 coming under orders of the 22nd corps the front had been a quiet one the river valleys having been flooded by the enemy to an average width of from 300 to 400 yards and the bridge is destroyed on the morning of october 8 the division carried out a chinese attack with the view to ascertaining the enemy's probable action if attacked under the cover of the barrage patrol succeeded in enlarging the small bridge head across the river at saili in ostravonte capturing 24 prisoners and two machine guns the enemy was expected to withdraw shortly and this barrage was repeated daily at dawn with the object of harassing the enemy and testing his strength at 3 am october 10 battle patrols were pushed out by the 3rd canadian infantry brigade brigadier general g s tuxwood from the bridgehead at sahili and after capturing the village they entered the drawcourt kia line to the northeast 30 prisoners and six machine guns were sent back from saeili at daylight a strong enemy counter-attack estimated at two battalions overran the force in the drokor kiant line and recaptured saeely driving our line back to the line previously held on october 11 in conjunction with an attack on the left by the eighth division our troops forced their way over the narrow crossings of the sin sea and tranquil rivers in the face of considerable machine gun fire and pushed northwards and eastwards meeting only resistance from isolated machine gun nests the performance of the first patrols enforcing their way across the narrow causeways all stoutly defended by machine guns was a splendid achievement by the night of october 11 the first canadian division on the left had reached the line amel s3 noel all inclusive and that dawn october 12 pushed forward clearing ado and reaching the west bank of the canal from palowell to the scarp on october 12 the line remains stationary between the canal dunord and the shelt canal east of the shelt canal the second canadian division attacked at noon in conjunction with the 22nd corps on the right and captured ordain attempts to push forward to bossaville were however stopped by machine gun fire the restricted area and the inundated condition of the ground prevented further progress on this front until the troops on the right could get forward it was apparent for many indications that the enemy was preparing to carry out a withdrawal of a large scale prisoners reported the evacuation of civilians and the removal or destruction of all stores also that roads and railways had been prepared for demolition these statements were confirmed by our observers who reported numerous and frequent explosions and fires behind the enemy's lines on the canadian corps front the divisions in the line were confronted by the canal de la sin sea and this in its flooded condition was a serious obstacle the few crossings possible being narrow and easily defended borders were issued however that a policy of aggressive patrolling should be adopted to detect at the earliest moment any retirement and that all preparation should be made for an immediate and rapid pursuit our patrols were most daring during the next few days but no weak spot was to be found along the enemy front our attempts at crossing the canal being stopped by heavy machine gun and rifle fire during the night of october 12-13 the second canadian division extended its left to open shul obak exclusive relieving the 11th division in the line with the 4th canadian infantry brigade brigadier general g e mcquaig on the right and the 6th canadian infantry brigade brigadier general a ross on the left at this stage the goc 56 division represented that his troops were too weak and tired to carry out the vigorous pursuit required in case of an enemy withdrawal the 4th canadian division was therefore ordered to relieve the 56 division by the morning of october 16 and in the meantime to place one brigade at the disposal of the goc 56 division to be used in following up the enemy on october 13 the 10th canadian infantry brigade which had been resting in aras was accordingly moved up to macchio and came into reserve under the 56th division during the early morning of october 13 the 56th division crossed the canal and succeeded in establishing a bridgehead at obani obac capturing the village with 201 prisoners at 10 pm the following night however an enemy counter-attack in strength caused our withdrawal from the village but the bridgehead was retained the relief of the 56th division by the 4th canadian division was carried out on the nights of october 14 to 15 and 15 to 16 without incident and the former moved back to rest in the aras oat aven marui area coming into army reserve patrols of the first canadian division succeeded in crossing the canal near feren on its left brigade front during the early morning of october 14 but meaning strong resistance the parties withdrew taking with them some prisoners and machine guns end of part 4 chapter 2 recording by james o'connor randolph massachusetts december 2010 part 4 chapter 3 of canada's 100 days this is a librivox recording all librivox recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer please visit librivox.org recording by sarah jennings canada's hundred days by john livesay part four chapter three the advance on da name on october 17th the first canadian division crossed the canal du nord the first brigade on the left affecting their passage in the morning followed by the second brigade on their right troops of the 4th canadian division unable to make headway by a direct assault on the line of the sensei swung out to their left crossing over the canal du nord and then working east along the north bank of the sen sea clearing out opposition as they went chiefly from enemy machine gun posts later in the day the second canadian division in the neighborhood of was no back with troops of the sixth brigade succeeded in gaining a footing on the north bank on the following morning october 18th the fourth brigade attacked the 18th battalion western ontario and the 19th battalion of toronto crossing over on a footbridge between pinecore and estran and advancing as far as waverchain canadian engineers followed up closely constructing pontoon and steel bridges over both the canal and river the enemy had blown every crossing and demolished causeways and railway bridges their engineers showing remarkable efficiency in this work of destruction fog blotted out the landscape favoring the retreat after the crossing had been affected our troops advanced several miles with patrols thrown out in front in a vain endeavor to get in touch with enemy rear guards for days to come the mist hung low over the countryside and our airmen were powerless in these days magnificent work was done by core signals who pushed their telegraph lines ahead abreast of the advance thus keeping all units in touch a remarkable feat for in the textbooks it had never been contemplated that in open warfare of the nature now developing wire communications could thus be maintained but the work was carried forward right up to mons and after the armistice through belgium to the rhine once the north bank of the censi had been cleared our advance went forward practically unchecked for several days canadian railway troops had been brought up to repair communications but our progress quite outpaced their utmost efforts and the troops pressed on often with but meager rations yet stimulated by the prospect of liberating civilians in the next village ahead and they're again encouraged to fresh exertions it was claimed for the first brigade brigadier general w a griezback that its troops were first to enter dui it had been evacuated of its civilian population and might have been a city of the dead for there was no sign of life other than a few centuries a block of buildings on the rue de paris fronting the grand place had been burned but otherwise there was no sign of intentional demolition such as had characterized the enemy evacuation of cambri the magnificent old hotel de ville was intact and now floating over it once again was the tri-color but within was evidence of systematic sac historic pictures having been taken from their frames and even the great gilt candelabra removed from the ceilings but left heaped on the floor in the hurry of the retreat only the wonderful frescoes on the walls of the banquet hall remained here again the town had been given over to sac by the soldiery shops had been looted and every private house entered and its contents of value removed with the same wanton destruction of what was left that had marked cambray in the cathedral a great pile of altar furnishings and vestments on the floor showed that had time been given these two would have gone the same sack had been carried out in all the evacuated villages but as the retreat gained momentum with our men close upon its heels this evacuation of civilians could no longer be affected by the retreating enemy for our troops in their concentric movement on often entered villages at one end while the bash were leaving at the other and yet already the tri-color so carefully hid these long years had broken out from every window and the glad villagers weeping for joy crowded around impeding our advance though still was heard the rattle of machine guns and occasionally a shell would burst in the narrow street from their slender store they pressed upon our soldiers coffee and bread and garlanded the guns with flowers vive le canadienne long live our liberators and glory to the heroes hung in great streamers across the village square on october 21st canadian corps headquarters moved to laward a village on the dubai dining road just beyond was obershikor a typical industrial village whose rows of bright brick cottages recalled the lens area with its glass works and the fosses conical heaps of slag rising up from the flatness of the plane indicating the pit mouths the bash had wrecked these mines flooding their levels and blowing up their shafts damage that it must take years to repair we had come to the borders of the most valuable industrial district of france and everywhere was ruin a curious example of german psychology exists in the village of lowhard on the brawls of a barn converted by the bash into a concert hall the artist of no mean talent used these flat spaces to exhibit a series of three pictures that might well bear the motto as ye so so shall we reap in the first of these a long horizontal panel a finely drawn bull is seen drawing a heavy wooden plow in the furrow guiding it strains a young french woman flat-breasted and dulled by field labor but with still a meager beauty the next depicts an old frenchman nodded and bowed sowing the field a little boy toddles beside him behind is a village church and a windmill with savage fidelity the artist makes mute despair the keynote of both these groups of the woman straining at the plow and the old man wearily casting the seed for here cannot be that joy of labor that even as it plants seas in the long months to follow first the tender sprouting blade then the wind upon the grain the harvest field and the safe garnered fruits of the earth in neatly ordered stacks awaiting the thresher dragging at their feet they toil to make fat the destroyer relentlessly the third picture drives home this horrid truth swinging aside in the yellowing cornfields is the great central figure of a prussian soldier terrible with the same unerring fidelity a ferocious crouching figure of long arms knotted hands and widespread legs repulsive as the gorilla power it has and strength and cunning the wheat sheaves bow before it with a fine compelling touch of irony the artist fills in his background with marching german soldiers force directing the harvest he has taken away with him everything not a horse nor a cow a pig nor a hen is left in the country in one village he has even taken the nanny goat whose milk was keeping alive a sick child he burned the straw he threshed where he could not remove grain he scattered it over the barnyard as for the peasants houses they are stripped the sack has been systematic we captured that laward a train load of furniture taken from this village still standing on the siding all neatly packed and labeled by order of the army command little groups of peasants old men women and children pushed before them their hand carts piled high with what household belongings they could take when evacuated they come back to their villages to find but empty shells the accumulations of patient generations of labor scattered to the four winds or lying soiled and broken on floors deliberately before but they returned free citizens of a free nation over their threshold is the tri-color and they are at home ah such scenes following hard on the enemy a field battery comes to a stream where the bridge has been broken down seizing picks and shovels the ecstatic villagers break down barns and garden walls to make a crossing this not going fast enough they throw in mattresses bedsteads and whatever movables the bosch have left bravo bravo they cry as the first gun crosses and gallops up the road the villagers east of dui whom the bosch had no time to evacuate are better off though their livestock has gone they have preserved their furniture their houses are exquisitely neat and clean the tiled floor spotless and kitchen utensils shining by contrast they make the work of the bosch elsewhere more beastly such a village is red lying in a loop of the scarp northeast of monteney where in the chateau our first brigade has its headquarters and one of its bedroom doors bears the inscription in chalk feld marshall hindenburg a very recent visitor the villagers say an enemy battalion had been quartered infrared for years but its people have a proper pride for not a village girl listened to the bosh and no bedraggled damsels followed the retreating army more than can be said for every village they were eager to see canadian troops and so although this village is outside the northern boundary of the canadian corps one sunday afternoon lieutenant colonel a w sparling of the first battalion billeted near marches in with his band playing it becomes a fat day the villagers scant though their means insist on providing refreshments for the entire battalion with many cups of coffee or the bitter substitute that goes by that name children bring great bouquets of flowers asters and chrysanthemums from intimate talk with these villagers one is able to gather a picture of just what the enemy occupation has meant other villagers fared worse where the soldiery was brutal and licentious invred it was a continual struggle for existence they were robbed of their rations issued by the american mission and more lately by the spanish for after drawing them they were requisitioned by soldiers who gave and returned sauerkraut and black bread to your good health madame said a bash officer as he munched american biscuits they had no fresh meat for years but for their garden produce they would have starved cabbage soup was the mainstay able-bodied men were drafted away to work in trenches and the young women taken to the forests receiving for their labor scanty pay and german paper currency now worthless these privations are stamped upon every face malnutrition caused many deaths one quarter of the village population according to the battalion mo are sick from this cause voluntarily our men have assigned twenty percent of their rations to the villagers but they need careful dieting and nursing many of the children whizz and mites can never be robust they must carry the mark of the bosch to their grave to see all this to have brought thus intimately home the perils and suffering of both body and spirit of these long years makes what our soldiers have accomplished also immensely worthwhile one of our men is carrying a little child others cling about him we are fully repaid he says for all we have gone through our dead have not died in vain our gaping wounds are bathed in grateful tears let no mother nor wife nor sister in canada feel if they ever felt that their boys gave their lives merely for an abstraction even for so great and splendid and ideal as truth and honor and justice they died that living people good people true people might be freed from physical bonds and be restored to spiritual life in every little home is a crucifix and the signs of humble devotion a pious earnest sober frugal people these french peasants narrow perhaps in vision but firm of soul the knight errantry of canada might have sought the world over and the ages threw for people in distress more worthy of a righteous war of liberation through long generations the memory of these days the coming of the canadians and the bursting asunder of fetters will be cherished in steadfast french hearts meanwhile we had been pushing on on october 18th the line had reached to west of bhushan west of obershikor with marquette and montgomery inclusive from october 18th to 19th a considerable advance was made which resulted in the capture by the 4th canadian division on october 19th of the important town of dunan on october 18th the 11th brigade captured obershikor anish and abscon 102nd battalion and on october 19th escodin 54th battalion on its right the 2nd canadian division captured buchen mastang rules and lorsch while on our left the first canadian division captured brewery feneme air this period is summed up by the core commander thus test barrages were carried out on the core front each morning to ascertain the enemy's strength and attitude and on october 17th the enemy was found extremely quiet and did not retaliate to our artillery fire on the front of the first canadian division patrols were therefore sent out on that front and succeeded in crossing the canal dinner in several places meeting only slight opposition stronger patrols followed and made good progress on the front of the 4th canadian division however all attempts to cross the canal were still met by machine gun fire after the first canadian division had secured crossings a battalion of the 4th canadian division was sent up to take advantage of these crossings and working down the east side of the canal cleared the enemy on the 4th canadian division front and enabled the advance to commence there further to the right at hem langlet the second canadian division succeeded in crossing the canal later in the day and patrols were pushed on in the direction of was no back only enemy rear guards were encountered during the day and the opposition was nowhere heavy although more organized and stubborn on the right opposite the 2nd canadian division by 6 a.m october 18th practically all of the infantry of the 1st and 4th canadian divisions and several battalions of the second canadian division were across the canal and the following towns had been liberated farin corchalette gulzen laraket ville o tertra canton during that day two armored cars one squadron of the canadian light horse and one company of canadian core cyclists from the brutanelles brigade were attached to each of the first and fourth canadian divisions to assist in the pursuit of the enemy these troops remained under the leading divisions throughout subsequent operations and rendered valuable service to the divisions to which they were attached although the enemy's very complete road destruction prevented the armored cars from operating to their full extent throughout the advance now begun a great amount of work was thrown upon the engineers and their resources in men and material were taxed to the utmost the enemy's demolition had been very well planned and thoroughly carried out all bridges over the canals and streams being destroyed every crossroad and road junction rendered impassable by the blowing of large mines and the railways light and standard blown up at frequent intervals the enemy also considerably impeded our progress by his clever manipulation of the water levels in the canals which he controlled foot bridges were first thrown across the canal and these were quickly followed by heavier types of bridges to carry battalion transport and artillery and in addition eight heavy traffic bridges ranging in length from 90 to 160 feet were at once put underway on the front of the first canadian division on the left the enemy drained the canal and it was found impossible to complete and use the pontoon bridges first commenced the engineers in the forward area concentrated their efforts on road repair craters being quickly filled in for the most part with material gathered on the spot and found in enemy dumps in addition the whole areas were searched immediately after their occupation many booby traps and delayed action mines being discovered and rendered harmless and all water supply sources being tested it was clear from the wholesale destruction of roads and railways that the reconstruction of communications would be very slow and that it would be difficult to keep our troops supplied canadian railway troops were brought up and as soon as the enemy had been cleared away from the canal work was commenced on the repairing of the standard gauge railway forward from sochi la strait the construction of a railway bridge over the canal at obenshuela obak was immediately commenced the enemy retirement now extended considerably north of our front and the eighth core on our left began to move forward during october 18th rapid and fairly easy progress was made and the following towns and villages were liberated from the enemy dashi and the western portions of obershikor during the day the advance had carried us into a large industrial area and well-built towns became more frequent it also liberated the first of a host of civilians 2 000 being found in peking corps and a few in obershakur these people had been left by the retiring army without food and faced as we were by an ever-lengthening line of communication and with only one bridge yet available for anything but horse transport the work of the supply services was greatly increased this additional burden was however cheerfully accepted and the liberated civilians whose number exceeded 70 000 before valencian was reached as well as our rapidly advancing troops were at no time without a regular supply of food illusion has been made to the fog which for days impeded our advance the sun not being seen for the 10 day period october 14th to 23rd and for two days it rained continuously making the roads at quagmire the bosch could not have selected a better time for making his getaway progress was very tedious because besides destroying all bridges and railway tracks he had blown enormous craters at every crossroad difficulties of observation have been referred to but the absence of information from our air scouts was to some degree supplied by the efficient work of our intelligence officers aided by the core cavalry mounted infantry and cyclists it was impossible of course to say with the same definiteness what forces the enemy had on our front as had been done so wonderfully in all the fighting up to the close of the battle of cambrai and the connection is appropriate for recording something of that phase of core operations throughout the heavy fighting from august 8th to october 12th the canadian corps commander and his staff were kept accurately and constantly informed of the enemy's strength and dispositions and to the uninitiated there was something almost of magic in the positive statements issued daily by the intelligence department of the corps as to the enemy elements opposing us what units had been washed out by our attacks what reserves had been brought up whence they came and their battle history all illustrated by maps showing battery positions areas of troops and support and so on unremitting and unflagging the great military detective force carries on its work silently and without any sort of public recognition in the daily official reports of operations but through its exertions our troops have the vital advantage that instead of fumbling in the dark they can walk straight in the light of day in the early years of the war the enemy's intelligence was superior to our own but in its closing period the situation was reversed and particularly as he fell back and thus lost touch with his agencies and the attacking force his blunders became very patent on the other hand we were admirably served and in no quarter more so than by our own intelligence officers there were of course subterranean channels and much information was collated from a careful study of the air photographs a work carried on with great thoroughness and gallantry by the raf but the most certain source of information lay through identification of prisoners and this was reduced to such a pitch of scientific skill that half an hour after a show opened our intelligence officers at canadian corps headquarters were able to enumerate the divisions opposed to us its agents were right up in the firing line and identification of enemy units began there and then more elaborate and intimate work was done in the various divisional cages and finally at the central clearinghouse the course cage for prisoners of war here are men speaking perfectly the german tongue and apparently prisoners themselves moved freely about gathering information and prisoners showing a disposition to talk were interrogated at length this service as indeed the whole conduct of operations can only be carried on successfully with the close cooperation of core signals fighting a battle is as much a concentrated business as a christmas mail order service every department must function or the hole will fall to pieces before a shot is fired the work of the general staff is completed many days and nights have been employed in preparation and it is only when the battle starts that its members can lean back in their chairs and take a moment of ease they have done their part the execution of the plan is left to others during the progress of the battle a tremendous strain is thrown on signals which must keep all units in close touch with their headquarters the brigades with their divisions these ladder with core headquarters nor is this all they must maintain uninterrupted the all-important liaison between the infantry and artillery a loss of communication at a critical moment of the advance must mean the useless sacrifice of many lives for our counter-battery work is of vital value to the attacking troops not less important is the work of preparation as intelligence is the eyes so signals are the ears of the general staff a good illustration is furnished by the record of operations established by the canadian corps signal service on sunday september 1st when preparations were completing for the assault next morning on the famous dro court quentin line on that day 7 811 messages were handled to say nothing of the core telephone service 2440 being by dispatch riders and the balance by land wires are wireless this requires a large staff of telegraph operators both on the land and wireless services and these have been recruited from the pick of the profession in canada from the news agency staffs commercial telegraph companies and broker offices they carry on under very difficult conditions frequently exposed to shell fire and night bombing raids especially in the wireless they reach a high standard of proficiency and some of these ladder became acquainted with the enemy wireless calls a knowledge that occasionally proves of great value thus when a canadian wireless section was sent up to flanders just before the opening of the amiens show this knowledge enabled them to completely mislead the enemy as to our intentions and confirmed his intelligence in its belief that the canadian corps was to be thrown in on that front this particular branch is known as the italk section the interception branch of the wireless section and it was said that our intelligence had the enemy code six months ahead hazardous indeed is the work of the cable linesmen who construct and repair wires under fire suffering many casualties a gallant story is told of two signalers of a manitoba field battery chums who had fought together since the battle of ipra salian it was just before the opening of the dro court quench show when it was vitally important that telephone connection between the battery and brigade headquarters should be maintained at all costs they discovered that the line was down and though the enemy was strafing with very deadly shell fire they methodically went to work to find and repair the brake this done they discovered that other batteries on the line were cut off and they proceeded to repair the whole line just getting their okay as zero hours struck one of them was wounded subsequently while employed on similar work in the opening phase of an attack when we were pushing ahead rapidly it was of course essential that signals keep up with the advance thus by the night of september 27th they had pushed forward an airline 8 500 yards or one and a half miles east of the canal du nord such examples are typical of the spirit actuating the entire signal service not least efficient members of whom are the despatch riders who enveloped in white dust or coated in mud pursue their course unheating over broken and shell-tossed roads familiar figures of the battlefield more often than not compelled to wobble their motorcycles along the ditch when passing moving troops end of part 4 chapter 3 part 4 chapter 4 of canada's 100 days this is a librivox recording all librivox recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer please visit librivox.org recording by james o'connor canada's hundred days by john livesay part 4 chapter 4. operations october 20 to 30. one of the difficulties of our advance at this time is the fact that we are unable to shoot the bosch out of towns and villages because of the civilian population vassat de niro the advance of the 4th canadian division was held up for some time on this account and it was not until the evening of october 20 that our men entered the town and even then bosch machine gunners were still clinging to the eastern outskirts this honor fell to the 10th brigade the 47th battalion western ontario actually passing through the town together with the fourth canadian machine gunners they met there a royal welcome never will men of the canadian corps forget daenery the private in the ranks fared as well and was made as much one of the family as the officer it is a humble little manufacturing town with nothing about it of beauty or architectural excellence its streets are squalled and dirty the country dull and flat relieved only by the pyramid-like slag heaps we were to visit many fine places and live in fat quarters from lawns onto the palaces of bonn with a bathtub for each soldier but in all this clustered memory no jewel shines so bright so constant and with such a hidden fire as this of the kind folk of daener they struck no medals they named no public squares in our honor but they gave us their whole heart and with it their uttermost possession daenery grimy little town of shining and cherished memory from the blighted village of louvard canadian corps headquarters moved into comfortable billets an india we enjoyed after many weeks the luxury of clean linen and all the ameliorations of civilization our billet was in the modest home of a widowed lady in the boulevard karamon the story of the family was very simple the eldest son a priest had joined the army at the opening of the war and was somewhere in the voshes the second son on another front in those days this lady had kept house with her youngest son john and two daughters louise now age 16 and yvonne age 13. german offices coming and going continually had been billeted upon them but we had no converse with them said madame lesage there were their rooms clean and sweet for the dirty fellows but in those four years as they trapped day by day up and down stairs we had nothing to say to them once only louise here slapped the face of one of them yes our little louise is of a courage here you must know was a hospital for english prisoners broken down by toil and want and a good physician of denand devoted himself entirely to their aid and comfort little as the people here had themselves they smuggled food to these poor men and our louise ii slipping behind the back of a sentry took them little packets any they caught they whipped or imprisoned and threatened to kill and arjun too john did we not tell you about our beloved john moshua burst in little yvonne he was going to lay call militare when war broke out to become an officer and we lied about his age when they registered us all but last year a neighbor a despicable traitor told the boss he was 18 and training for a soldier so they took him away they took him away and we have never heard they had had no word of any of them for weeks and weeks no word at all of john these people were reduced to the barest necessities of life and with our coming conditions for a time were even worse for the spanish relief ceased and it was some time before we could organize anything beyond the rations of the army in four years they had not tasted sugar in this beautiful little menage one blushed continually to find that to be a canadian was of necessity to be also a hero a soldier of transcendent qualities for in denan long before our coming the renown and fame of the canadian corps had gone before many a jolly canadian soldier no doubt recounted here to a breathless household how he too had stormed vimy ridge and taken part in the victories of army inns and comrade the vimy ridge tradition in fact was to be expected here for daenerys are situated on the same coal scene and have a community of interest certainly there was nothing artificial or put on about this high renown into which we had so unexpectedly entered it was a thing of growth and root we luxuriated in it and nowhere we went thereafter had for us quite the same exotic warmth of welcome indeed we were to visit prosperous communities talk with well-informed people and find to our sad disappointment they were completely ignorant on the great subject of the canadian corps it is true we left them in better case all this found fitting expression in a solemn service of thanksgiving celebrated one sunday in the old church to which canadian soldiers were specially invited and when a memorial service was held for the canadian did who had fallen the corps commander the prince of wales sir david watson commander of the 4th canadian division which captured the town and his staff were present one was talking many months after with the demobilized soldier take it all in he said there was no place like the night i never slept in so good a bed before or since the woman of the house insisted on cleaning my boots we are shortly to move on to valencian where in an imposing mansion one's billet was cheerless no clean sheets no bright fire none of those amenities to which one had become so quickly accustomed from there in due course we moved to mons to another mansion where the chatelaine an aged belgian lady greets us by saying that the german officers who had just left were true gentlemen and she hoped we should behave as well and again no clean sheets no brisk fire happily in those days a reasonable excuse presents itself to return to daenerys to madame and louise and yvonne one knocks at the familiar door and yvonne rushes out oh missure be sure how splendid you are just in time to see our big brother who has arrived this day on leave and we have had a letter from arjon who is well and will soon be home we shake hands with a bearded giant in light blue he thanks us again and again for what we cannot tell for perhaps accepting so gracefully the kindness poured upon us but it is fine to hear that this veteran of france also has the very highest opinion of the core canadian has heard of its exploits in the fire bulges somewhere in belgium a little letter overtakes us from yvonne they are all united again after four years what happiness from denan on the fighting stiffened and as we were well out in front of troops on either flanked we advanced cautiously pushing ahead only when ground could be gained with a minimum of casualties nevertheless it was our object to prevent the enemy getting away at leisure and we trod closely on his heels our outposts feeling their way along and driving in his rear gods thus his main body was never more than four to six hours ahead and we prevented him wrecking the country in his passage though it was systematically sacked and looted while the dirt and stench he left behind him were indescribable in dealing with enemy posts a return to some of the practice of trench warfare obtained stokes guns with a range of 500 yards whose day was regarded as done once we forsook a warfare of positions now came into play and even more effective were the newton mortars with a range of 1200 yards bits of cover we utilized to bring these up within range of the enemy machine gun nests and at the first round the bosch gunners had their wind up and got off very effective work was done with these guns mounted in armoured cars of which a supply from routinels brigade had been divided among the brigades and were placed in attack directly under battalion commanders they were thus enabled to circulate on various roads and outflank small machine gun nests and positions that had been holding up the infantry causing considerable casualties to the enemy and materially assisting the advance this open warfare through a rolling country provided a magnificent training for our troops who fast closed up the scars of recent fighting and soon presented a fresh and smart appearance they were in excellent spirits the only grievance being the ever lengthening distance from the lead base a real hardship for the min whose turn it was except the units actually in the line and these were but few for our brigades attacked at the most on a two battalion front while the 11th brigade in particular brigadier general ondlum advanced all the way from the canal de nor to valonsian and beyond on a one battalion front the nature of the present operations rather resembled peacetime maneuvers than the battle tactics to which our troops had been habituated on october 20 the second canadian division went back to rest the fourth canadian division having established contacted denan with the 51st division advancing from the south on the right bank of the shelt on this date still further progress was made the first canadian division capturing aznan and valeres and the fourth canadian division avalui this village being taken by the 54th battalion of the kootenai by october 21 the first canadian division had penetrated the foray davikowanya to the road leading from valencian northwest to santa amand while the 4th canadian division had captured the following villages bob rasha rouveni and pruvie by units of the tenth brigade and bella arien and obri by the 11th brigade with the 87th battalion grenadia gods of montreal its outpost line was on the western outskirts of los santonell and petit 4a on october 22 the first canadian division which had battled its way forward without a halt from northeast tavares on october 6 was relieved by the third canadian division next day we had reached a line along the shell canal to the foburg de paris then salon the canal to fresnos thence to odam fronting on the shelt opposite khandi the advance was continued with the 4th canadian division on the right and the 3rd canadian division on the left the 10th brigade being on our extreme right along the left bank of the shelt south of which was the area of the 22nd corps on the left of the 10th was the 11th brigade working on a line drawn from just north of denan through anzine the northwestern suburb of valancian left again was the ninth brigade and beyond them the seventh brigade working along the northern boundary of the core which ran from douay to the northern fringe of the forayed erasmus some fourteen thousand yards north of valencian north of us was the eighth corps everywhere civilians were released and we did what was possible to relieve their necessities it was a triumphal progress their joy and contempt of danger were extravagant and in a country that so far had escaped the ravages of war they appeared to have no idea of the perils wherein they moved thus when the 75th battalion of toronto passed through on zine into the village of bovraj north of valencian the civilians brought them coffee regardless of the heavy machine gun fire from the far side of the shelt an old peasant was serving coffee to two of our men when a shell burst in his backyard they immediately died for the cellar crying pokhav mushu or cave but with shattered glass around him he proceeded methodically to make up his charcoal fire the enemy indeed kept up a heavy fire all along the canal and paid special attention to our exposed communications a number of our men and even the 11th brigade staff being badly gassed emaciated though they were the frenchmen of military age thus repatriated hurried off to enlist pitiable was the condition of british prisoners several of whom were now released the bosch made it a crime for the peasantry to give them so much as a cup of water and set to heavy work in their weakened condition most of them were little better than skeletons a canadian trooper of the fort garry horse of winnipeg captured in november 1917 when his squadron was surrounded south of cambray and who now made good his escape from valencian weighed only 86 pounds his proper weight being 160 pounds he said the bosch admitted they were beaten and that they were going back to germany the condition of captured german horses showed the straits to which they were reduced the operations of this period are described by siratha curry as follows quote on october 19 the advance was continued on the whole core front nearly 40 towns and villages being rested from the enemy including the large town of daener the 22nd corps advancing on our right from the south gained touch with the 4th canadian division just east of daener on the evening of october 19 pinching out the 2nd canadian division which was then concentrated in the obershikor area where good billets were available in spite of bad weather and increased resistance more ground was gained on october 20 and the villages of osnoo le faux balea and avalui with a large population were freed during the day resistance had stiffened all along the line the ground over which we were advancing was very flat and there was no tactical advantage to be gained by pushing forward and the further advance would also increase the difficulties of supply in addition on the left the eighth core had not been able to cope with the supply question and had not advanced in conformity with our progress in view of these considerations orders were issued that divisions were to maintain touch with the enemy without becoming involved in heavy fighting for a time on october 20 the 4th canadian division was held up just east of daener by machine gun and artillery fire and it was not until late in the afternoon that our troops could make progress there continuing the advance on october 21 a footing was gained in the foray de vicawanya and the following villages were captured aaron bear wassi erin as on the previous day all these villages contained civilians who subsequently suffered considerably from deliberate hostile shelling the first canadian division had now been in the line for two weeks without having an opportunity to rest and refit since the hard-fought battle of the canal de nor and orders were issued for its relief by the third canadian division at dawn on october 22 in order to touch with the enemy be maintained the first canadian division pushed forward following closely the third canadian division passed through the first canadian division during the four noon on the left brigade front about 9 am on the line of the saint armand rasmus road and on the right about noon on the line of the saint armand rasmus railway the foray to vikawanya having been cleared of the enemy on relief the first canadian division came into rest billets in the saman pekkan kor mazni area the third and fourth canadian divisions pushed on during october 22 and by nightfall tree san legere la vignoble la santinel vas le o volvraj bruis and practically the whole of the large forest of erasmus were in our hands on the left brigade front of the 4th canadian division the shelte canal had been reached in places a very large area northeast of vallancion and a smaller area to the southwest had been flooded and to the west of the city the canal itself provided a serious obstacle to the southwest beyond the flooded area montoy and the farmer ridge made a natural line of defense the 22nd corps on our right had been held up along the ekyon river and the 8th corona left had not been able to make any considerable advance chiefly owing to supply difficulties and were still some distance behind us the divisions continued to push forward in the face of steadily increasing opposition and by october 25 had reached the canal and the western edge of the inundated area along the whole core front our troops had had a very arduous pursuit and the rail head for supplies and ammunition was still very far to the rear it was therefore decided that we should make good the west bank of the canal and stand fast until the flanking corps had made progress attempts to cross the canal proved that the enemy was holding in strength a naturally strong position and it was ordered that no crossing in force would be attempted without reference to core headquarters the engineers established dumps of material well forward on selected sites so that the bridges necessary to cross the canal on the resumption of our advance could be constructed without delay a glance at the map will show that the shell canal after passing daener takes a turn of four or five thousand yards southeast and then at the village of teon on its south bank where the ekayon river joins the canal turns again northeast to where some seven or eight thousand yards lower down it skirts the west flank of valencian vincent continues in a generally northeasterly direction some 13 or 14 000 yards to kandy which is but two or three miles from the belgian border at kandy the shell swings off at right angles to the northwest contained within this right angle is the forayed erasmus through which our troops had penetrated they were therefore several miles beyond valencian on the left or north bank of the shelt the enemy had flooded the canal from kandy raising the waters not only as far as the city itself but a considerable distance west of it halfway to teon some of our troops of the 10th brigade of an adventurous spirit sought to enter valencian from the south by crossing this inundated area by boat but their craft was promptly riddled by machine gun bullets they had difficulty in making the shore again so far therefore as the canadian corps in its present area was concerned no attack on valencian was feasible many civilians were known to be still in the city and so we could not shell the enemy out quite apart from the desire not to damage a city still intact on the other hand the bosch made full use of this immunity by establishing batteries of artillery and machine guns at every point of vantage and maintaining on our lines a continual harassing fire it was obvious that until the core on our right advanced along the south bank of the shelt we could only mock time happily the weather had taken a turn for the better we luxuriated in a belated indian summer squash summer as they call it in the west the corps commander explains the situation and dispositionness follows quote it had become apparent that unless the enemy withdrew baloncian could only be taken from the south the 22nd corps on the right had meanwhile succeeded in crossing the ekkeon river after a hard fight and captured the fama ridge they had however been unable to take montoy which commanded valencian from the south on october 27 the first army commander outlined the plan for operations to be carried out in conjunction with attacks on a large scale by the third and fourth armies to the south as follows item a the capture of montoy and all noir to be carried out by the 22nd corps on the morning of october 28th item b the capture of the high ground overlooking valancian from the south to be carried out by the canadian corps on a subsequent date probably october 30. item c the capture of the high ground east of valencian to be carried out after item b above probably on november 1. balancing would thus be out flanked from the south the canadian corps would take over probably on the night of october 28-29 the left brigade frontage of the 22nd core parentheses approximately 2 500 yards close parentheses in order to carry out phase item b and item c of this operation the above attacks were to be carried out simultaneously with the attacks of the third and fourth armies in accordance with the above instructions were issued to the third canadian division to take over the frontage of the left brigade of the 4th canadian division the 4th canadian division was in turn ordered to relieve the left brigade of the 22nd chord parentheses 51st division close parentheses both side slips to take place on the night of october 28-29 subsequent to the capture of montoy by the 22nd corps the attack of the 51st division on montoya on october 28 was not successful in the first rush the troops succeeded in gaining a foothold on the objective but were subsequently driven out by repeated counter-attacks in view of this the relief of the left brigade of that division by the 4th canadian division was postponed during the night of october 28 to 29 however the third canadian division relieved the left brigade of the 4th canadian division during the month of october we had captured 2 950 prisoners 136 guns and 467 machine guns 42 trench mortars six anti-tank rifles six locomotives and other materiel and rolling stock end of part 4 chapter 4 recording by james o'connor randolph massachusetts january 2011.
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we just concluded operation first late 2015 which was an operation that focused on social engineering related fraud schemes it was organized by Interpol's anti-corruption and financial crime sub Directorate in cooperation with the low bang office which is based out of Bangkok Thailand the operation consisted of 23 participating countries and in the result 514 suspects were arrested in 15 call centers were shut down in countries such as China Thailand Vietnam Cambodia and Indonesia this initiative started in 2014 and Interpol with an export working group meeting that we organised from there we had operation first late 2014 which involved six countries and resulted in 22 arrests in this year's operation not only did we expand the number of participating countries but the regions of influence and we hopefully will expand it further in 2016 to cover the globe a social engineering fraud is basically just a common term that we use for how the criminals can con victims are there money specifically in operation first late 2015 it was basically involving telecom fraud and then also what's called CEO manager fraud and when as I mentioned before Interpol has a holistic approach as we talk about social engineering fraud we not only do the public awareness as you can see with on our website and social engineering fraud but we have expert working group meetings to talk about this problem and how law enforcement can mitigate the threat throughout the world and then finally we have targeted law enforcement operations such as operation first light that focuses on these type of fraud schemes throughout the world once again I'd like to say it was a very successful operation and it's in cooperation with law enforcement agencies throughout the world that made this happen
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Love and Marriage Huntsville Season 3 episode 3 | Here Comes The Tea Fanny RECAP & REVIEW
welcome back random tv reviews your girl annette and it's your boy stan hi we're back again for another week of love and marriage hunting yeah we are you back episode three here comes the tea fanny i told y'all last week that tiffany was giving me a vibe i ain't never usually wrong i can read a room very very well i read the room through the tv i ain't liking her vibe at all but we're gonna go ahead and get into this episode but first let's go ahead and thank you all for coming back each and every week yeah appreciate it appreciate the channel welcome welcome welcome welcome indeed we appreciate you over here make sure that if you aren't subscribed go ahead and consider hitting that subscribe button and if you like what you see go ahead and hit the thumbs up if you want to hit the thumbs down that's fine too because everybody gets counted over yeah exactly but let's get into it so on last um not last episode but episode before that y'all remember tisha had the graduation kick back and whatnot well happened to be that tisha and mel started working on their relationship and it kind of started by her coming to that graduation party so mel decided okay we're trying to rebuild and we're trying to get back to the old friendship we used to have let me go ahead and invite tasha over and we can just have a little girl chat you know chitty chat chat and do whatever so tisha comes over they are doing what they do having some wine tisha brought over their newest product that they're trying to launch and it's called chocolate in a bottle with black so that was real cute and real fun so they started talking about relationships and mel was asking them you know asking tasha you know how are you and marco doing and she kind of brought up the fact that doing covet of course everybody is in the house stuck together so all of the problems that they had before as far as them working and being in separate locations you know kobe kind of fixed that brought a lot of people together yeah it also made people be like yeah but so now that you know things are starting to reopen because we outside you know they they haven't really found that balance between work family romance quiet time with each other so that's what they're working on and mel was giving her a little bit of advice saying you know y'all gotta really make sure that you all are going hard for the same goal at the same intensity because that's what happened with my marriage is we thought we were going towards the same goal but somewhere someone got off track and that's how stuff can get messed up and i do like that she told her say you know what why don't you go talk to dr frank francis because he's really really good yeah thank you yeah he is real good and i like with and i like that teacher was receptive because she was like you know i'm not gonna say no i would have to convince marco to do so but i do believe that you don't always have to wait until things get bad right to go for a checkup yeah let's just go ahead and talk about some things now but i was like i thought that was really cute and big i'm still on mel i think mel looks the most beautiful when she is very toned down like she is such a pretty girl but when she does like when she has minimal makeup on i think she is the absolute best looking ever so let's go ahead and talk about marta martel is over there at his mom's house and he's putting down some snake repellent because every year he said there's this one snake that keeps popping up i said how you know what's to say it's big martial how you know it just come out at one one at a time but he said you know either i kill it or i put the repellent down but i'm gonna make sure that every year my dukes is good she ain't gonna handle snake problems none of that hey look y'all when she said that i had ptsd this was probably about two or three years ago i was out and i still ate over it cutting grass it was after a big storm was cutting grass about a week later and i got my weed in and i was weed eating trimming everything up and on the corner of my eye i could see something moving and i was like my mind said that's a snake but the other side of my mind said they ain't a snake i turned around that joker says and he was like this he was moving back and forth like this this sucker was ready to take me out yeah he was so i called annette in the house i was yelling i was like batman baby come outside come outside snake out here no they know what i said there he go right there she was like oh my god that's big so i said you stay right here and i'm going to the shed and get the limo and we gonna chop him up no he said i'm gonna go and get the oh yeah yeah yeah yeah get the lime get the lawn mower cause if you miss the way he is rolls up at you yeah he's going to get you so you're gonna have to you're gonna have to mow him down so i said you keep your eyes on him while i go back there so when i got back around the corner he was getting ready to take off to go up underneath our house i said red on top of chop chop his goddawn tail up but at the same time in my mind i was like he still ain't dead [Laughter] so i ran over him about two or three times when that goddamn llama in my mind i was going to get the gun and i said no our neighbors are too freaking close for us to be just taking shots at a damn snake but we were like well we had bought some snake repellent stuff we never put it down but they also said yeah and they say they got some stuff you can put around the perimeter but when i was doing my research they said snakes just crawl right across that blue skin so we feel your mom do yeah they go yeah so she said you just made sure she said if you if i see one i'm going to call you because you need to come over here and take care of it i'm telling you ain't nothing worse than the state i'm i'm sorry y'all but martel gets to telling her like you know i went over to the house and mel um shut the door on me i was like tell the whole story she shut the door on me but guess who answered the door let me in the house vain but then she wouldn't let me hug her she gave me the hand and all of this so my dukes is like hold on what first of all she need to stay out of it she gotta do it she got nothing which is true and i like what mom said she was like listen i got my own like to leave i'm staying in my place living in my own business and don't worry about y'all i said mama over there giving me whitney vibes i was like what you doing over there that's why it's though stay out of it yeah stay out of other people's marriage unless they invite you in yeah and then it puts you in a in there especially mel's mother real talk that does put her in a very vulnerable spot yeah because not only that she is the one that's going to have the children the most so it's not that you're in it you're kind of in it by default you're forced in and we're going to talk about that when we talk about the meetup that martel actually had with van right but i like my mom said like you said giving wisdom was like you know we gonna have to learn to stay out of it at the end of the day i still look at melody as my daughter-in-law y'all don't broke up but we're just one big split apart family that's going to have to learn how to co-exist make this thing work and do what we need to do so later on in the episode we saw that martel actually did have a meet-up with van in the park and van started off with martel i'm not here to attack you i'm not here to bash you i'm not here to do any of this what i want is for peace closure and so that we can figure out how to deal with each other for the sake of these children but she did put it there she was like listen i'm disappointed i never wanted my grandchildren to grow up in separate households from their parents because you and melody already have done that and i trusted you with my daughter and this is what you did you lied over and over and over and i said this is where we are right but go wrong with martel because we expect him to own what he does and he's not gonna own it he's he's going to own a piece of it right but he's going to find a way to flip that thing around on you to say that i didn't always lie at those moments where you asked me was i cheating i was not cheating you couldn't be cheating at that moment because you win her presence but maybe 15 minutes before that maybe you were so we're gonna get caught up with logistics here so yeah that's what i say at this point is don't even address him with that yep it's just like the bible say don't cast your pearls before the swine because they ain't gonna do them but trample over so that's him so it's no use wasting no energy i'm telling him anything because in his mind he ain't do all that he know he wrong but not as wrong as we see yeah y'all not gonna see him sweat and i noticed that like even when she talked about the kids and how she never wanted to see her kids grow up in separate households than their parents you could see that that broke him because his children is his is his soft spot but he don't live in that moment long enough for you to be like oh and he was out there in that park he was working he was full he was crying he's not going to let you see him sweat yeah i kind of had those traits in me too so you're not i think a lot of us black people got that tree you know because we feel like we have to always show up in the world strong because the world makes us strong for a story right so show up in the world so to show a sign of vulnerability is it's viewed as a weakness and it's really not because keeping that skit in only is killing us that's why we got stress and depression and what else that you know we got going on that's killing us before our time man taking us out here you know before i age i know the average age that people die is 78 but some of us dying at 40 and 50 30. in some cases if you make it from some these days yeah one time we think heart attacks is only for old folks nah they dave they hitting young people too yeah my best friend's brother yeah he died of a massive heart attack at 17 years old yup so um let's go over there talking about marcel and jalen and my dad at 50 in his 50s yep so marcel jaylen are over there at black there's a lot to unpack here and there's a lot that i feel like is for tv because i can't see someone as business savvy as martin so yeah putting jalen in a position of being a gm knowing that the restaurant business and hospitality business are the if you don't do that right you can guarantee your space in the unemployment line quickly or in bankruptcy because those two right there there's really no margin for error in those two fields yeah so to take jalen straight from college and put him in that position by himself yeah without being guided yeah i i i really think that some of this is for tv yeah because he kept on saying y'all you and tisha promise to back me up and give me train on the job training but i know you got this other project going on so i feel like i'm on my own i was like nah ain't no way yeah ain't no way ain't no way but especially with with um back to the beginning when when mel and um tisha was talking she was saying that black russ the black uh land was doing real the lounge was doing really good so i'm like him not having that experience i know he he didn't do that by herself yes there's somebody in somebody's house with some experience making things shake and move yeah but um so yeah they're talking about that and jaylen was saying that pretty much he feels like when things go wrong he's the fall guy but when things go right it's all to the good but when things go wrong and he's asking for help he says that marcel and tish always promises to give him help or give him guidance and they never do so he's forced to try to figure it out and sometimes figuring it out is not figuring it out it's kind of just putting the patch on it until this goes away until the next time something else comes around understand that but i really love what um marcel had to say when he talked about how when a black business opens up is not good enough just to say i'm going to support a black business because he said that's going to be real cute for the first couple of months yeah because at the end of the day like he said you can get wings anywhere you can listen to good music and get out anywhere and he said you paid good money for these drinks so you can do that yeah he said well the price is when he said when the nudist way off and they see what these but they really cause and i know what you talking about because we have a lounge right here in richmond and i was like yeah i can't do this all the time um but what he did say was we need to make sure that every time we are hitting the black experience yeah because that's what's going to keep people coming back no regardless of the price yeah regardless of a little hiccup here and there if you give them that experience they will continue to come back again and again and i love what he said because we were talking about this um probably sometime this week as far as like youtube goes and we talk about people that come through the channels it was like why do people come to reviews to listen to the regurgitated facts and truths and opinions of a show that they just watched it's the experience of whoever it is that you're looking at it's the value it's yeah yeah there are some people that love us that can't stand another reviewer there's some people that love other reviewers that can't stand us that's how life is it's the experience that you get wherever you feel comfortable at right and that's the value added so you because we're not doing anything unique here so you get the linette and stanley experience where you come over here yeah yeah yeah we're not giving you anything that you have it well if you don't have capable well they don't have us that they house so they can get us so that's yeah experience right right so that's where people will be like so y'all talking about a show that everybody just watching yeah but why do people do it because of the experience that they get over here what is our experience well stories go back to back to jalen y'all i don't know if jalen watches but you is watching brother you are i i feel your pain where i'm also always telling you what you're doing wrong let me tell you something brother welcome to leadership yeah can't you be ready to go somewhere without cause leaders i don't care leaders when you are the leader of whatever if something go wrong it's always your fault it's going to be your fault but here's a good thing i think what marta what martial is really trying to teach him is because we want to instantly be successful but success comes through failure you fail your way to success because your failures is which is where you learn so i think that's what martial was trying to tell him so they basically dropped him off in the water and say now swim yeah fail your way to success but i still like we said he ain't doing it by itself but but he's still going through his failures as a leader so he can be a better leader yeah but one day we plan to um take a trip and go to um huntsville matter of fact muscle y'all need to send us a bottle of that chocolate chocolate champagne man yeah so we can do an honest review on it yeah don't send us don't send us a bottle i don't know if that's legal i don't know if you can actually because we're in virginia well you can order wine online yeah we can yeah you can order wine on i don't know i don't know that requires some special license hell we can order weed or whatever or whatever but you know what we eat online now right so just take the wine and throw it in the bottom of a big box and put a whole bunch of newspaper over a whole bunch of plastic bags and some pack of peanuts and go and ship it to them they don't know what it is so let's go ahead and talk about this this girl tiffany and her husband louis cute family yes i really like here's the thing it's kind of like it's kind of hot nevermind i'm not gonna go there um because i was gonna say something really disrespectful but i'm not um tiffany and lou they have boys and the boys get along good and they're really close in age where they can kind of bond and grow up as brothers and whatnot and they are speaking about you know how they got together both of them have experienced breakup divorce got together and they making the best of this newfound love that they have that's all well to the good so tiffany tells lou said listen melody invited me to destiny's birthday brunch and i'm gonna go over there and i said uh-huh okay say use it yeah yeah usually yeah now we get over there no we're not going to talk about it because we're going to talk about it last but let's go ahead and talk about this because that went way over my head on the last episodes did tiffany really surprise her husband with the wedding like i told like she told him to show up we get married i told i i told my queen to each of his own it really is to eat your zombies but i have my opinion about it right i mean i did i used to have an opinion about stuff like that but i don't wear but we all be like i want people to mind their own business and let me do me but at the same time we don't extend the courtesy to everybody else and let them do them i get paid money for my opinion so here's the thing if we if i had decided to do a ball diamond waiting for you to surprise you to marry me i don't want nobody else to just be like that's socially acceptable but since it's to reverse around since she did it that's where the problem is but who made the rules we're not going to go here there that's not going to that's the way i think it's like like i guess this i guess i guess because i'm getting older and you don't care we don't care and like where's the rules at who said that the man has to ask the woman to get where not why why can't the woman ask the man no no we're not yeah but that's what society has done to us to make us think that's the way it's supposed to be done but i know y'all are arguing the comments by standing what the hell you talking about the man is supposed to be to the woman and i don't know yeah that's what that's what i believe i believe that's the way it is to be done you should have been pushed this morning but i'm not gonna skid on somebody else if they decide to go back that's them i mean they don't pay none of my bills they don't affect they yeah they don't affect my life in any kind of way doing that way i'm good i mean you know i'm right about it no i don't but as for me and i'm gonna ask my lady to marry me that's me that's that's you know that's what i believe because of the rules but i can't i can't project and put my beliefs on somebody else moving on moving on to tisha and them are going to um houston because they have been invited to host like what is this cigar week from chicago or something like that so while they're in houston they're actually looking to open a second location for black that's how i know that some of this has to be made for tv because if the bugs are not ironed out over there at establishment number one how we expanding with establishment number two because what history repeats itself from building to building so i'm like this has to be 1450 but she had to go out there a day earlier than marcel because he had to stay behind and do some business but the business that she really wants to get she know her back broke out but at first she want the strawberry and the wine she wanted the romance for romance before that no yeah she want the prelude because they haven't been getting that and they don't have no kids around they got this nice hotel room it's time to get it on crack like it she said i want you to preheat my oven yes she said if we can break they skid up and leave and pay the 200 it'll be worth it to my soul so she calls mars so and tells him daddy he was like if you just want to have sex we could just yeah we can bypass all that we get over there and save some money we don't have to have that honor we don't have to have none of that we can just go straight into sex i was like marcel such a dude and she was like no more so we're definitely going to get our romance on while we're out here in houston and i ain't mad at you um tisha for that go ahead but let me say something about the romance piece like i used to be that guy you know when i was younger i'm like i'm acting like i'm real old you know when you younger all you think about is you know getting in the hole i mean you don't care nothing about no romance of all that skit but man i'm starting to like romance a little bit more better than that i mean that's like the icing on the cake so the romance leading up to is icing on the cake yeah cause that makes things happen man yeah yeah sex with most women are mental it's mental oh yeah ninety percent mental so any hootie let's go ahead and get into this birthday brunch i like destiny's group of friends because it reminds me of my group of friends oh yeah you got hood you have psychologists classy you got you got something that you dare not ask how they make their money oh your shirt speaks perfect you know you have them friend that's kind of classy and kind of hood yep yeah i have friends that i wouldn't they don't work nowhere but their bills are always paid and i ain't asking because that's not my business that's right um just like if a woman decided to accidentally america no no he's so selective man we're so selective i'm gonna be selected to like that we are that's okay and lord gonna say well done my good faithful servant because you kind of classy and you kind of goddess god in the bible would just say oh you ain't following my rules oh you ain't trying oh you decided to keep that bull back at home and don't bring it to be burnt in the burnt offering you know what boom your whole family gets old oh your wife wanna look back uh-huh turn it into a sea salt uh-huh we had my gun yeah so the the group of friends started showing up to the birthday brunch right so they're all getting together and kimmy happened to be like one of the later ones to show up but when she shows up she walks dead center into the end of a conversation of destiny confirming the fact that she is now divorced so kimmy was like i don't like what i just feel like i walked in once i'm gonna leave i'm gonna come back and they was like no no can we sit down it happened we are officially divorced and kimmy is legitimately shocked yeah like she was like okay okay wait wait wait i need to process this what yeah you have a newborn baby like i hate to see a dissolve of a family like that that's me yeah and destiny was like and you could tell that in this moment she was really trying to process it without breaking breaking down because she had mentioned to melody that she had a really hard day the day before and then melody was like wait a minute you mean to tell me you have a hard day before this day but you didn't pick up the phone and call me melody what i told you on episode one you can't get mad at your friends for being you in a new situation or you in a dim situation because you did the exact same thing when you were going through your thing with martel like season one your friends were telling you like you should have picked up the phone and called me and told me no i just want to go through myself yeah so she's processing it the way that she feels like she needs to process it let's go ahead and talk about this guy doing tiffany so because tiffany is the addition to the birthday brunch who shouldn't this is definitely for tv because you just don't invite randoms to somebody's birthday what you talking about black people do that all the time this ain't no tv that's reality yeah i would stay corrected on that one you be you be at your family cook album you be like who's that well you don't ask questions at the family cooking no because you don't ask them you just see it in your mind know that because we have those family members that every event they have a different person with them so we dare not to ask and we don't even get to know their names because we know about you yeah you're gonna be rotated by the knicks again yeah and if we see you a second time we could be like oh okay what's your name i didn't see you oh okay tiffany that is nice nails so tiffany they're working the room and trying to figure out how do they know this one and this one and what events did this one so long story short tiffany is connecting with kimmy on the level of their children playing sports together yeah so they get to talking about this that the third and then tiffany just breaks out with the oh yeah your your monster was the one that was in the bathroom vaping right that's man that was that was like so out of place so so kevin was like wait what so i like how kimmy said it she was like you know what that's a that's a maurice conversation yeah and then a confessional she was like okay not only are you is you telling this little boy's business you're telling it in a very open and adult setting yeah putting kids business out there in the street yeah and i'm like okay so that's right but they kind of go back to like what the show is like the siphon was scripted and what's not because it was like so out of place they they weren't even on that and they're just out the blue i was vaping in the bathroom yeah he was bathing in the bathroom i was like wow what all right so then we get around to how tiffany possibly knows destiny and how they have crossed paths before yeah so evidently mel and martel when they were together had an event over at their house and all of them just happened to meet and you know you know bump shoulders so they're familiar with the faces of each other so then tiffany goes on to tell this story about yeah i remember there was an event where your husband was being presented with an award and it was like yeah it was like best entrepreneur of the year something like that and she was like yeah then when i saw you the next day over at the thing i was like yeah that outfit that you had on yesterday was really nice and you were like oh that wasn't me and destiny gets really upset and have to leave and everybody was like oh and destiny and her confession was like one you wouldn't even invite invited then you come here on my birthday to say something stupid out of your mouth like that that's going to upset me like for real for real like first of all if that did happen don't you think that's very embarrassing for destiny and then you're going to bring that up in her friendship circle yeah and throw that out there on front street at a positive event and then when destiny runs off to the bathroom she's gonna say well it's her birthday party i guess she can cry if she wants to no you can get your a whooped if she wants to do that because that was so uncalled for yeah totally agree yeah i was like see i tried tate and i hope this is made for tv but at the same time you got to realize that if you're making good tv you got to walk out in this real world with that same integrity when you are doing a reality show yeah this ain't script well yeah we don't never mind i know what you're saying yeah i know what you say but yeah i was like i was just done yeah i was born i was like yeah that's like we like you having a birthday party for me and my cousin come in there and bring up my my ex-wife if i had one and how we broke up and my birthday party in front of everybody so and it just happened it wasn't that long ago i don't care if it wasn't a long time ago why are you bringing that up over here yeah at all i don't know y'all but y'all let us know how y'all like this episode it wasn't much to the episode they pretty much left the bulk of it for the end yeah what's that maso and tish we have a really nice cigar lounge here in richmond that we go to every now and then but i would love for y'all to bring a black lounge here think about that man do you demogrash i don't know too much about demographic written i just know there's a lot of black folk here with good money they hang out a lot enough y'all if y'all need me because we get i think we go on either friday yeah friday or saturday or next week and we'll show we'll shoot some videos and you want if you want the videos to see how you know how packed this club is because we hang out there yep and it's nice real nice but we could use another one yeah that's black on yeah because this one ain't no straight from the vietnam the dirty dirty sound chew up holla
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co-creating language with Sandra Collins and Gina Coe counselors co-create language to Foster shared understanding with clients by highlighting phrases or words that seem meaningful to the client or by suggesting language to describe the client's experiences often in the form of a metaphor hi Gina welcome back hi Sandra last time we were talking you were looking at how to make some shifts in your schedule and at the end of that conversation I suggested that it was about a balancing of these pockets of needs your clients needs your own needs your family needs which you seemed to resonate with providing transparency overviewing I'm wondering if you've thought any more about that probing oh yes absolutely I've got more um so I think what I will do is to actually execute and block off right now I'll start with one to two maybe I'll maybe yeah let me just think here I'll start with one one consistent evening a week I'll block it off from C clients and see how that goes small steps and as you think about blocking off that one um specific evening what do you think the um the positive and the potentially negative outcomes that that might be questioning oh okay so I when I think of doing that then I think about having the the need to have conversations with my clients saying that now my business hours have shifted a little bit um and right now I can continue to keep them um updated on how many weeks out I am with my evening appointment times they want to see me during the day I have many more openings right so I think the positive with that is then we can talk a little bit about you know self-care and balance with my clients which I have already of course all the time that's a positive I think it I think clients can learn from our own modeling general practice do you want me to tell you that maybe potentially the negatives yeah the negative could be that then um the other evening may be really full right and then I have to further my next step is even blocking off another evening so I might just look different um and clients will likely have to adjust some might not like that as much but I'm not sure yet as you were talking I was thinking that it's kind of like um having all of these eggs and sticking them from you know five baskets into four baskets and you still have all the same eggs co-creating language [Music] rights yes you're right because then what that would mean is that my daytime will likely fill up more right and my evening time would be lighter right mm-hmm and you said a minute ago that your evening the other evening slots might become more busy with less space for you and your own self-care um if the clients are kind of then just moving into another evening reflecting meaning yes if they feel like they can wait and move to another evening or then or they'll adjust and see me during the day yeah so if they adjusted and saw you during the day would that feel would that would that create a scenario where you have less eggs to juggle clarifying one thing that I'm thinking about right now is um you know I became an avid golf golfer the past few years I usually do go in the try to go up a few times during the weekday in the mornings but if I'm going to take some evenings now off then I will fill up those spots then my exercising in terms of golf would be less during the weekday I'll be moving into the weekends yeah which is possible I just won't be golfing as much which I can live with that right now yeah as you um you kind of process these shifts what's the primary goal in making these shifts questioning well the primary goal is is for sure balanced right you know having this Balanced Life where it's not just solely on you know everything on one inborn one baskets right I like I do like the basket metaphor actually I do um and I'm picturing colorful eggs for some reason uh maybe those chocolate co-creating language um balance because as we know as therapists Sandra when we are off balance we're off kilter then you know things can go awry right our you know our well-being our relationships with our family members and friends and people we love yeah might not do go so well so for sure balance okay I I like the idea of the chocolate egg so I'm still stuck on that because what it says to me is that you love all of those eggs co-creating language yes I love chocolate yeah so it's not like these are things that are are and I think you've been clear about this it's not like the anything that you're talking about here is something you don't want to do and you don't have a passion for and you don't love right so then the trick is I like the balance of that because the trick then is yes I love all of these things all of these colored eggs um but I have to find a way to balance these things in my life so that you have space summarizing yes yes
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it is Scandinavian heavy here with two Danish Riders of Swede and the sole representative from Australia Max Frick not quite possibly in the lineup we expected to see but nonetheless a terrific final to finish the night up here in Warsaw it's been a smashing by the speedway I've got to say the noise the atmosphere the racing really has done it proud so it's final time in Warsaw it's prediction time Kelvin oh come eggs mate um it's not an easy call but I've got to go I'm gonna go with Freddie lingra just because of the roller coaster he's been on throughout the night here we see the lineup Nicholson off the inside in red Leo Madison blue Freddy linguin coming out of gate number three in white and off the outside Max Frick who chose that he had the pick hit the first pick and it's final time in the now Adobe in Warsaw I'm gonna go with Max frick will be a danger of course he is on the inside he hesitated he wasn't quite sure because he made such a great effort semi-final number two coming out of gate three so here we see the boys just doing a little bit of gardening around so Mickelson on the inside now back to gate number two in blue frailing we're at gate three and white and off the outside Max Frick they haven't tracked fret now they leave it for the final so there is a little bit of evolution that's gone on in the first two semi-finals there is a bit of dirt out wide Frick has used it beautifully tonight he's got that bike working really well but Frick also made a really good and clever move on that opening lap where he closed the door on the opposition going into turn three day four just gives you those options I think that's what he's after he likes that little bit of extra racing room second final of the year back in the not Adobe the pandemic obviously kept us away for 2020 and 2021 it's 20 22 and we're back here on four lap four laps of action just under 60 seconds who's gonna win here tonight three lights on tapes up and away we go because it makes a good start with Frick's there as well he's down the back straight he's followed himself to the front because his style red light's gonna come on red lights are on I think he took his handlebars away drama in the final somebody's gonna have to go now it's not in the first Corner imagine could go here that's a very strong going into that third Corner Chris yeah he was very forceful and I think taking his arm hand off the hand of us with our backs free must have thought he was going to win here I think it's the first time we've seen somebody actually get across from gate four all night you know they've made uh cutbacks they've made runs around the outside but he just went straight across absolutely fabulous start from the outside no exclusion light on yet but there will be one coming no but he's gonna be concerned about vehicle Mickelson Leon knows that there's a chance he's just said he's leading on me what do you think what are your thoughts on that need to see it again I'm not sure if he was leaning on him it's a final he wouldn't blame him if he was um you know but I need to see it again well you can now yeah here we go and we can see uh Leon just coming up the inside of Nicholson there's definitely contact Leon has got the better of him there he's got his nose in front of him there Chris yeah let's just have a look from this angle I think Mickelson's in front oh I disagree with you I haven't looked at it again I'll tell you what if Nicholson win it wouldn't be a shot because I think Leon is at this point in front he's got the bedroom up there but he hasn't enabled Nicholson to get in the corner because he can't straighten the bike up he's gonna crash anyway and the leg is gone but Leon had nowhere to go where is he gonna go he's gonna have to go to miss him had he over committed himself oh no because well look we could argue about it the largest I'm not in a referee this evening because that's a difficult call that's a very difficult and either way it goes both Riders are going to feel aggrieved aren't they yeah yes doesn't matter who's excluded what's just fractionally in front of him lean it on me no exclusion yeah Crystal Gardell taking his time here that's a tough one and it's a really tough cause and uh certainly I wouldn't want to be the one to make it and uh it is drama here in the final which way is it gonna go would it be Leon or would it be uh be killed Nicholson they're still attending to Mickelson because certainly hearing yeah I've yet to see the exclusion light come on so we'll just hang on until we see that to be absolutely confirmed still attending to Mickelson on the safety fence we are there's a strong suspicion that it is but I want to wait red is out red is out Michael Nicholson goes Crystal gardel clearly felt that Leo Madison had got the better of him and Nicholson was leaning all over him a reprieve possibly for Madison but a tough call nonetheless Chris tough call um you know I think at the end of the day he could have gone either way with that one he really could have gone either way with that one someone was going to miss out and uh yeah Nicholson he did stick to his guns try to get into the corner when he saw the slow motion he called Nicholson's kevlars were caught on the footrest of Leo Baxter and there's no question that kind of pulled him in towards it yeah halfway down the backstrike and Leo Matson when he saw it again he really had no choice where to go and he hadn't moved over he hadn't changed his line he was just coming past yeah you know tough cool really tough possibly the right one though yeah I think I think I think on balance yes possibly the right one we have a couple blows at the Contra box yet maybe later is the season we will but not tonight we're still having we're still friends let me see it again Chris what's kevlars get caught on the uh bike on the hand yeah you can see it there and that's definitely unsettles if you see it's almost pulling him off the bike yeah he turns maybe a little bit earlier than he wants to and then it's that bit where Madison's back wheel just takes his leg away do you think well it could be Madsen but you know that really was a 50 50 cool someone had you know what if your damage zip up it probably wouldn't have happened just the Small Things it should have been old school and had the kevlars inside the booth certainly stuff I know for Mickelson who finished his third two weeks ago he'll be desperately disappointed and still pick up 14 World Championship points and so that is some confidence and uh so we have some concerns about Michael Nicholson he hasn't made it back to the fits and uh unfortunately for him there is some concern about his health so we keep our we are keeping our fingers crossed that all is well there's she's not uh not actually laying down but as I say attention for Mikhail Mickelson is required and uh possibly even if he'd been in the rerun he may well not have been able to take his place in it because it was a heavier fall than we uh first thought this is a sort of time when an experienced head may just come to the fore because Freddie Lindgren has got a second chance here yeah and Max Frick must have felt that he had this race in his back pocket he must have felt that he was going to win the Grand Prix from there as you said he was the first Rider all night long to have actually got across from gate four yeah I think um Nicholson's exclusion probably his Advantage medicine as far as the first turn guys he's got no one on the inside of him now so it's almost like coming from from gate one I'll tell you what I don't think he'd been able to be in the final anyway looks a lot of discomfort yeah I think the left arm is obviously clearly a problem uh the Phil Morris there hence Nielsen on the left there with the red top on the Danish team manager concerned up his face the they keep our fingers crossed that uh Nicholson yeah I'll tell you what he's unsteady on his feet isn't he really has taken a heavy blow there Chris and that is of some concern I'm surprised they haven't actually put him on the stretcher and lifted him off but um clearly wanted to make his exit on his own two feet and uh an appreciative crowd there just applauding him away nobody's left and that's the to the credit of the bonus crowd they have got a representative in the final but they're here to see it right through to the conclusion so we've got to re-rupp with three Riders here so all Riders are going to be struggles on as a uh yeah lingering guaranteed a fourth Rostrum on the Trot here in the uh Good Start Good Start loving it loving your work Chris as I say I just got a feeling I don't know why but it's just the sort of thing now with this rerun he might just pop up with this now but I'm sticking with Max yeah I can understand that entirely you know the starting mate although I do feel that Madden's been given an advantage now without having a ride on the inside of him yeah some Hotel so now now shame we haven't got four Representatives here but um spinal and it's the restart the four more laps of action here in Poland in Warsaw to find the winner of the night these three Riders are guaranteed a roster of sport of course we just don't know what order they're going to finish in and uh Leon Batson just making his way around it's been a good night for Leon he'll be delighted to be in they re-run for the final massive had his heart in his mouth must have felt that it was a good chance he was going to be thrown out of the race but he's in he's on gate two and Leo Matson has won here before knows how to win the final so second time of asking their medicines in two in blue pretty Lincoln will come out of gate number three in white and Max Frick who was Sensational in the initial start of this is a final from gate four he reproduced that now often we see Riders miss our second time of asking can happen yeah to reproduce it again okay so I've just got a feeling about really might just do something here but you know if there's any justice you'd like to think that Max Frick will hit the front now after the sort of start he made I think it was the best start we've seen all night yeah well and he made it at the right time he did indeed yes absolutely so I think down look at all that dirt up against the safety fence there Max break obviously clearly likes that that's why he shows it to go from there and he really did get a jet propelled start last time can he do it again star Marshall just Keen for the Riders to come forward nerves jangling [Music] keeping our fingers crossed that this is the last four laps of the evening a clean run to the checkered flag and the winner of the night so here we go final time in Warsaw where'd they go and it's another great start from metric of the outside he's made it he's hit the first Corner in front Leo Madison's in second place Fred iligram back in third misses out Max frigmo what composure wow what a ride from him he completes the first lap is in front Leo Matsu's pushing hard in second place Freddy's in third but Max Frick looks like he's gonna win here in the narendome yeah fully committed he's not riding defensively he's on the edge of the dirt mid track and he's building up plenty of speed it's good to see Max riding like this he Aussie Champion deserves a little bit more than he saw in the first round with two points he's gonna take this one fantastic stuff from here super suffer Max trick out in front he's gate four for the last three outings he had no hesitation to take that he made an absolutely dream start away from the outside and Max Frick is the winner in the naranovi tonight what a performance he failed to score in his first ride with the Australian Champion has turned it all in fine style and a fully deserve his winch had to do it the hard way had to come out second time of asking and they will be absolutely Overjoyed at 20 World Championship points for Max friggs that's the most important thing but what a place to take a victory it's his second Grand Prix win and uh yeah look playing up to the crowd great stuff proud of disappointed in the fact that they haven't seen a Polish winner but they've seen a fantastic race meeting they haven't did it's been a thoroughly enjoyable event really has been a side to behold the atmosphere the track the racing it's been a super nice to Speedway there's a terrific pleasure to be back here the winner of the night Max frigg number 46. the team are delighted of course they are it's his second Grand Prix victory in his career and uh the Water stage to do it on you can be rightly very very proud to win here in the now Adobe what a night for that young man Max frigg terrific stuff and such a turnaround inform you know his League form has not been particularly good obviously a disastrous first round in Garcia and so to come out and ride the way he has ridden tonight and his night started with the last place you know he's turning that around completely absolutely although he wasn't in the final he's got 30 World Championship points and I'm just wondering whether that's enough just gonna do a few Subs here actually Chris just to see if that actually puts him in the lead of the world championship they have got that up on our screen at the moment so we're gonna have to do it the analogue way but uh pickle Nicholson has 16 and 14 respectively so 30 points say sorry excuse me that's 28 points so he's uh let's move down to 30 points or 30 points to pick up Nicholson I think so I think that will actually lead the world championship we'll see how many points the battle smash that got for fifth he might be very very close indeed so he may well have um 10 or 12 so it might just be scars like still leading away I think so but here we see the run for every one again yeah another cracking start from Mexico it's always hard a second time around particularly with the disappointment of having a uh a final that your leading stopped but he does it all again he says that bike he's pulling his arms out on the way to the corner he has got everything spot on by the end of the night and a deserved winner he pulled away in the end from his opposition and another good night though for Leo Madsen and uh Freddie Linden they're just having to put the brakes on us they ended three Leon turning fairly early absolutely and Leon Benson of course who is under pressure he might well have been thrown out he picks up 18 World Championship points to add he's 12 that he had in Croatia so he'll be chuffed to bits with that Port quite tall he moves on to 30 Championship points as well so it's awfully awfully tight so that's the top of the top I do think that barter schmarsik is going to be just in front as we leave here this evening with 32 points and we've got two Riders on 30 points respectively but Max Frick well that was some night of Speedway for him celebrating he's working with Max now he spent uh his whole career with Thomas golub passing on a wealth of experience seems to be paying off see if it does and Max Frick this win for him will live long in the memory to win on a stage like this is a terrific terrific thing to do
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1997-03-17 NSPRS 052 - The Myth in Plato's Gorgias
[Music] good-evening good-evening good-evening back to myth another night of milk making and start with just one theme a theme that we've worked on before but I think we can present it now in a new way key notion relations are constant the terms vary everything in the universe anything you want to know it's made up at either terms or relations you're either going to study particular things or you're going to study the way in which particular things relate and that's the sum of it all but there is something quite interesting about relations and terms that are constant because if we are within a hierarchical universe right that's what we're living in that's the nature of our existence a hierarchical ordered universe then this quite simple statement relations are constant terms vary that's an interesting significance for us because that means the highest order the most significant the most divine of all ordered systems is no different than on the physical universe whatever intermediary terms there may be because the terms will vary the relations are constant now I'd like to bring you into mythology through metaphysics and then back into mythology so let's start first of all anything in the Platonic universe starts out with the highest view of the nature of the one nature of the one or the good is the ultimate this is well-developed and Plato's Parmenides the first hypothesis its that beyond which nothing can be said this is the DNA Achieva this is the ultimate about which everything before it must remain in silence to not ever predicate anything of it because it would be lessening it therefore we start with the one now it's very interesting you start with the one and the only real metaphysical question there is which of course is the nature of the one and take that many ways and it's always kind of an intriguing way to jump and take in it a new way so I have to hold back the horses because I just thought of another way of taking it but let's try it liquor the next most fundamental thing is what is called by three names being vitality or power we can use power or vitality and intellect or we can use another term for it my vitality by being remain the highest expression of what is the purest notice three terms they can be arranged most ideally in a triangle because they function as a mean analogy let's put it there all right being power intellect now what is this look here what is this these are three words that are fundamental because there is a very profound spiritual experience of illumination this divine luminosity which is experienced by some people sometimes can be regarded as divine radiance divine luminosity pure light No Boundaries no boundaries no boundaries no up and down permeates all and yet it can be participated in in ever and ever more deeper levels but it's always the same now where does the Greek spirit of metaphysics enter those and that is what words can you assign to this first word is for the person didn't they encounter something they encounter something which is more real than anything else they've ever experienced it has a very vast profound reality being special word encountering it you know that there can be nothing beyond it there can be nothing higher than it it must be the highest expression of what is and the most profound but it's not an ordinary light it has a vast power and vitality to it it's not dead it has advanced power and vitality to it but one thing is clear is that you are face to face with an experience that you can recognize in lesser forms and shadows as intuition suddenly you're confronted with an obvious fact from the obvious fact is for any intuition you've ever had that's the very same thing extended beyond limit therefore it's a startling awareness it's a startling awareness of mindfulness it is their fourth Greek so we can understand this experience in terms of these very basic terms and from that we can generate everything else that means then someone had to way back when take a look at this and say it's not enough merely to experience it it's worthwhile understanding it therefore they had to make these distinctions they had to make these distinctions so clear that other people could profit by it and they could push it into other rounds and that's where we're going to that's what we're going to do we're going to push it into different realms so the one the good divine luminosity expressed in these three terms that's the primary triad it's called now while it's light this would work alive for phobos what is it does the more elevated yeah me too because these people believe we can get them well Joe do you have a text a little Jenna it'll generate will get it okay and thank you for the question now occur all the Greek metaphysics is nothing other than this triangle because it takes this form you can also you see talk about being and you can say what is the existence of being what is the power of being what is the mind of pure being you can equally talk about it this way you can say if there is a power and a vitality you can say Clement this vitality isn't mindless oh no it has mindfulness that's mine so there is a great power but you can also talk about it the power the mind of that power the intellect of that power the power of that power and by the way when you do that the power of that power is the Greek word for that which always is that's eternity you can also take those you can take the intellect and say wait a minute can you talk about the into it can you talk about the existence of that intellect yeah can you talk about that power of that intellect can you talk about the highest expression of that intellect that means therefore for each one of these you can then break it out break it out as it were and create another Tiran triad and so on so we can also therefore talk about here all right that's this corner I'm just pulling it down we can talk about what is the existence the existence of mind we're talking about what's the power of mind of the vitality of mine you know what's the highest expression of you see we can also talk about this see as the this is another word for activity or function right so we can say what is the activity what's the activity of mind in its highest expression so we can have three words we can talk about existence we're talking about power we can talk about activities that the three major words we need because the activity of pure being is mine now when you talk about the existence of mind you can personify it your make it into a person you can represent it in a figure Chronos Chronos Chronos that's close it's got a lot of fun that you can talk about the power of the mind rheya you can talk about the activity of mind Zeus you know what would be interesting to see see we can break this down further we can take the activity of mind can we not we can take the activity of mind coming on and break that into three other same as we did before now it's the special function it's the special function of Chronos which is the existence of mind to illuminate to illuminate this entire realm that's what it does it illuminates the entire realm and in that sense through that illumination what is it why it's a vast power of course power it has mind as vitality it has existence if it has these qualities than it can perfect this is a perfecting power it is a perfecting luminosity it fills everything right it distributes itself everywhere and appropriately extends itself in a measured way not random in a measured way you put all those things together that's called a drastic or a destiny that's destiny that's destiny that's what they mean by destiny Wow that's interesting now look here let's see if we can go one more step what do we mean by this thing so we're taking it and the basic sense that we say there is something within let's take man first there's something in man which plans you had have a plan to come here you had to then command yourself to carry out those plans and you only did that because you have a primary care for yourself and you seek to benefit yourself what is it in man that does those things so that's the query Creek that's the Greek word for soul that's what they may in just that notice it presupposes soul presupposes soul presupposes the existence of an ADT pendens upon mind because you can't plan in command and seek for your own care and there's got in mind all right you can't make up a plan can't follow it through and can't pursue it for your own care and benefit unless you have some mindfulness about you would you not agree you can't do that unless there's some spirited part of your nature not spiritual but spirited energy right power now in the Greek world the entire universe the entire universe and the activity of Zeus he is the creator this is Zeus the Creator we can use the word Zeus in several ways they're called Zeus the fursuits the second Zeus the creator in creating the universe had to have an idea a model a paradigm therefore in creating the universe he had to have a mind to create it the adda have a power and a skill to employ it and therefore he had to have some activity to do it there we have our triad again in the creation of the universe he had to create before he created the universe since in the universe would you not agree there's evidence that the universe has been planned there's enough design features to say that there is a command right I mean that there are plans organized therefore in order for the universe to exist as it did it had to be ordered when the order is now inherent within this universe of ours well you can't have intelligence going around by itself that always need soul within which it functions therefore the universe as a whole has soul which then presupposes mind [Music] now what now let's see any time you do this you have to consider something curious that that that is behind all metaphysics source of something the source of something the order it has the purpose for which it came into existence therefore if there is soul throughout the universe there must be something there must be something that supervises it that's in charge of it that's responsible for it another word for those things has to be a prior condition for it and that we can assign a hierarchical source to it so you look at Stewart again if the universe can be said to have soul because it appears to be ordered then there must be something that was its source there must be some source of its order there must be some purpose for its existence and therefore they must be something supervising it something over it raining overhead so let me represent that in this way there must be something over the soul that in some way ensures that it functions the way it does therefore if this is mine that presupposes that there must be something over mind and that usually metaphorically and metaphysically is called Uranus heaven now once you have therefore this mindfulness it needs a repository soul and if you have soul then you need something in charge of soul well you need something else too because if you have world soul this soul world soul must somehow become fragmented so that you and I can get a piece of it must be separated from the whole and if it's separated from the whole then whatever it does there may be a return to it to its source well there's a separation and so in return then we can go back to our model and we can say one of the functions of the activity in any one of these triads we're creating and playing with we can say its activity is twofold it can go to the next level the next level but also can return to its source each one of these then can return to its source and a hierarchy now how are you going to represent this world soul because it must mean it extends itself throughout the universe Wow all right okay all we need to do it's got another triangle that's all we need another triangle Zeus Zeus is the source of it therefore we'll call him the father i zeus then is the father of the next order of existence and that's going to have to be soul in general does that was mind in general now going to have soul in general well if he's the father well each one every source every source can be called a father every term that's generated from it can be called it's children every father can be given a name and the children can be given names and therefore we personify so what is this soul that then is going to rain well Zeus is going to rain over the soul but now we're going to have another term for Zeus sometimes called Zeus the second and then we're going to have his brother but Sidon that his brother Pluto they're all brothers no brothers no what happens therefore when the soul then general soul as we said a moment again fragments and separates itself then we need another order don't we need another order ok that's easy to do I'll go back to this in a moment when the general soul takes on a particular entity takes on a separation from the soul then we can make another triad to express it because now they're going to be a whole bunch of souls throughout and they're going to have to be supervised and ruled well that's soul in general and now we're going to have a distribution of other souls a bunch of them now all right a whole bunch of souls this is soul in general all right whole bunch of souls you know what we can do we can give new names but remember what we said a moment ago father and children well now we can get into mythology you see when Zeus saw the beauty of Europa the seducer of course that out came as the child minimus and his brother was right amethyst Zeus also had an affair with a Gina and lo and behold the child was named AE AE us they're all the children of Zeus next levels who picked early next level children father father children all the way up so let's just quickly go back once more ultimate term the one there is this experience and represented metaphysically in this way which we're calling divine luminosity necessarily we are confronted with the fact that one one aspect of it that we can talk about is intellect or mind we can then look at mind and talk about it in three ways we can say mind itself has in existence mind itself has a power there's also an activity of mind now each one of these have personified names which represent each of the gods that represent the qualities of each of these which we could go into but let's hold it for a moment and Chronos is the very source of the illumination of this entire region therefore we can then say we would like to now see on the next level my sous as the activity of mind functions and itself ah another Thai Rak Thai right parmi triad that comes down from that as this came down to this well then that's the family of Zeus and his brothers and that's usually described as the terms you need to understand soul in general because these are the three views of Zeus by the way Zeus for the upper world and divine souls he'd represents divine souls and those that are elevated and Poseidon is considered to be those that are mid right and Pluto those that are in the lower this is also called marine Zeus and Greek mythology the marine zoos because Poseidon is responsible for all the lower level the lower levels of our world the valleys the river is the waters these the marine Zeus and Pluto of course as you know is the subterranean world the world dealing with all of the earthquakes all of the forces beneath the world for each of these there can be said to be a domain responsible to each of these people and therefore this is sometimes sacred to hate of Plato of Cluedo to Hades Poseidon to the seas sous to the divine souls in the heavens in the same way Zeus is considered to be uppermost in the heavens and therefore the fixed stars are his domain but cyton the Sun and Pluto of the moon and other attributes akin to these follow now we want to go further we want to see what happens when you take this idea of soul in general and what happens when you break it through and talk about soul as it takes on an intelligible status and an entity in itself there has to be a separation and a new realm and how is it represented it's represented therefore for the journey of the soul in this world so the journey of the soul throughout throughout those regions we just described can now be represented in terms of these three figures and again they're going to be three different periods that we can look at and therefore we'll do that and I think now we can go into the net right good try to practice frankly repeating the same figure that's right that's practice right and it also is they mean analogy to say because right a is to be as B is to see you can represent that a is to be a is to B as B is to C and that's the leading metaphysical idea for reading plots latinas Plato and propos yes thank you it was a nice thought right okay let's see now see whether our excursion can help us good we got plenty of time all right 1 2 3 4 5 pages I want you to take everything I shall say as strict truth that's the way Plato introduces enough I'm at 5:23 and the gorg is when as Homer says Zeus Poseidon and Pluto took over the rule of the universe well let's turn it back [Applause] when they took over the rule of the universe from their father they divided it among themselves three periods of time the first age is called the age of Chronos the second is called the age of Chronos with the beginning of Zeus and the third is the reformed suits three areas now in the time of Chronos there was a law concerning mankind that's often called destiny which holds to this very day among the gods then any man who's passed his life and adjust in holy fashion should upon his death and in the islands of the Blessed and dwell there and complete happiness out of the reach of evil while the doer of evil impious and as doer of evil and impious Teej should be sent to the prison house of retribution and judgment Tartarus only to two extremes no third no third to one or the other now in the time of cross and the earlier portion of Zeus's reign the judges were living men hmm well they're living men then they judge their fellows while they were still alive and since the arraignment of a man was held on the day that he was about to die for this reason the judgement was conducted badly so Pluto was upset because no one's going to hate it well the wrong people are going to hate is well the wrong people are going to the islands of the Blessed suppo Pluto and the overseers of the islands of bless came to Zeus and reported that improper persons were being sent to both places then zu said I'll have to put a stop to this proceeding it's quite true that the judgments are now conducted badly but the defendants approach a trial closed and the judgment has passed while they're still alive there are many he said who have wicked souls but are clad in beautiful club eautiful bodies and the pride of race and wealth and when judgment comes many witness advance to their aid testifying to the Justice of their lives the judges are over awed by these furthermore they themselves are clothed with the veil of eyes and ears and indeed the whole body interposed before their souls that they sit in judgment so they're judging through the senses and through their values and this becomes an obstacle for them both their own clothing and that of those they judge now first zu said we must terminate the following thing six we must terminate men's knowledge of death not given what is to prometheus to make sure that this accrual is carried on next they must all be judged in nakedness for judgement must be passed and only be passed after they're dead the judge almost the judge must also be naked and dead and in order that the judgement shall be just is very contemplating the naked soul of each man who has died without warning bereft of all his kin and all his trappings left behind upon the earth accordingly since I record this state of affairs even before the rest of you I have appointed my own sons to from Asia Minos huh no Minos Rhadamanthus na s I have appointed my own sons to be judges to within from Asia you know cinema Rama death is and one from Europe by the way these two are from Asia Asia means in the Greek mythology the area of light west is in darkness as the Sun sets in the west therefore its darkness the East therefore plato was saying the this is the realm of light this is the realm of darkness of these when they're dead they shall give judgment and the meadow let the crossroads from which the true roads lead one to the islands of the plus the other to Tartarus and Rhadamanthus should judge those from Asia a key as those from Europe and then ours whenever they have any doubts it will be decided by Minos the mean he will judge he will therefore have more mind being more mindful he should be there for the top of the top of our triangle for that's the position of mind in every case existence of mind and so women there's another possibility of putting Minos here so the question is whether or not just formally whether or not you're talking about the existence of mind then it's here or you're talking about the functioning of mine here between these two but these two have to be opposites extremes and the and that's the way that's settled you have the opposites the one in this demand okay let me go back to them because there's two ways you can represent them I shall give the perogative a passing sentence on appeal when the other two have any doubts and so the judgment of a man's last journey shall be rendered with the utmost justice now what's the judgment what are these judgments that are going to be made whether they make them or whether when in doubt Metis makes them now he has now a very interesting analogy and what he's going to do is talk about the effect that life has on the body and the relations are going to be similar on the soul so therefore he's going to use terms for the one and pass them over to the second let's see how he does it this Kali is what I have heard and I believe to be true and from this narrator I draw some such rough inferences this death as I think turns out to be merely a divorce of two things the soul from the body and when they have separated one from each other right each of them still retains much the same condition as it had while the man was living the body retains its natural contours the body watch now retains the natural contours with the marks of its upbringing and its experiences quite manifests the marks that's the key term which we need for our next explorers the body every effect that you have of course imprints on the body but it also imprints on the soul he's then going to use these terms which are appropriate in the physical realm but he's going to find parallels functioning on another level for the level of the soul let's see how he does it for example the man's body was quite large when he was alive either naturally or the result of diet or both when they escaped when he dies his corpse will be large if it was fat the corpse will be fat and so long videos long hair the courts will have long area if he's used to to be beaten and had the marks and scars and lashes or blows and other wounds of his body while alive these may be still seen on the body when he's dead or if he had any limbs broken a distorted during life and death the same are going to be plainly visible here comes his principle in a word whatever characteristics a man badi presented in life these remain visible and death either all of them or most of them for some time for some time some little time next up now the same state of a pair affair of permanent now the same state of affairs appears to me to hold true for the soul now we're going on the level of soul when it has been stripped of the body everything and it becomes visible all its natural traits as well as those acquired from every habit and every pursuit therefore we have the imprint on our soul of every habit and every priest's pursuit we've ever got engaged them there for all kinds of learning all kinds of experiences are going to be visible to us on the soul when therefore the Dead appear before the judge those from Asia before Rhadamanthus because of them to halt before him and examine each soul with no knowledge of its identity often indeed he has laid whole love on the king of Persia or some other monarch or despot and discern nothing sound in the soul for its deeply scarred by the whip and full of festering wounds brought on by perjury and crime these now are going to be the marks on the soul and these are going to be the kinds of things that have produced them for it is deeply scarred by the whip and full of festering wounds brought on by perjury and crime the imprint on the sole of its very and every act it sees all of it twisted by lies and imposture crooked because it has received no nourishment of truth it sees in compact that were of distortion and hideousness by reason of your responsibilities in life sensuousness and when he has seen such a soul he sends it an all dishonours straight off to the prison where it's destined to enter undergo the sufferings that are its to now we're going to get a mean see before we only had those two realms was either Tartarus Ziya Tartars or the Blessed islands now we're going to get the mid region where it is possible for the soul to be sent and yet returned everyone who is punished and punt and rightly punished either ought to be benefited or become better or serve as an example to others that they may behold these sufferings and through fear become better those that are benefited by their punishment at the hands of men and gods are they that have committed only curable sentence the curable return the incurable stay nonetheless their improvement must come through the pangs of suffering both here and in Hades only in this way can they be rid of their wrongdoing but those have committed the extreme of injustice incurable they serve an example to others they benefit not at all since their incurable yet others may do so when they observe these men malefactors suffering in the greatest and most painful in the most fearful torments because of their sins strung up forever in the prison house of Hades as a portent a warning to the unjust as they arrive below and one of these I say is our cue Lewis if polis tells about him is true or any other tyrant who resembles him and now he makes his claim about the nature of the incurable if you have if power if authority and power position Authority and power tyrant invariably incurable yeah yes this political power yeah yeah that's absolutely right you said you can go in two ways for him the only everyone goes this one and very few ever can endure that kind of power and authority without committing some injustice it's very rare that were his suggestion is avoid power entirely avoid politics it is calculus from the ranks of the powerful that the supremely wicked are drawn yep there's nothing to prevent a good man for being found in this class also and they when they occur are entirely admirable for it is both difficult to most praiseworthy count Cleese to live a just life when one has the greatest opportunities to do wrong and I'm going to skip a bit and so as I was saying the mighty Rhadamanthus received such a man knowing nothing else about and neither name nor lineage but only that he is bad and on perceiving this he packs him off to talk to his putting a mark upon him to indicate whether he seems curable or not and the criminal proceeds to prison and suffers whatever is due on occasion the judge may perceive a soul that has lived in holiness in truth the soul of some private person or another but most often calloc lives as I should say it will be the soul of a philosopher as kept it to his own business and is not meddled with others affairs during his lifetime wherefore whereupon the judge is struck with admiration and sends him to the Isles of the Blessed akiza's roll is just the same each of them sits in judgment while minute while minutes the overseer sits apart he alone has a golden scepter just as homers Odessa has says he saw him holding a scepter of gold and and judging among the dead socal achlys I've been convinced by these accounts has become my concern now and I may present to the judge my soul in its healthiest condition and insofar as I'm just just skipping a line or two and insofar as I am able I will urge all other men to such a life in such a contest as this which I affirm to be worth all the contests here on earth put together and I retort to your reproaches that it is you will be unable to help yourself when the trial in that judgment which I have just described comes upon you you will have to appear before the judge a genius son a genius son as we know is our good friend yes that's a genius son because he's in the West and I suspect it's also because it's dark but that's my own little ad line when he lays hands upon you and drags you before him it is you who will stand there with gaping mouths and reeling head no less than I am here and it will be you perhaps whom they will shamefully slap in the face and it's mistreat you with every indignity now it's quite possible that all this may seem to you to be a myth an old wives tale you'll despise it nor would you nor would your contempt be surprising if with all yours with all our are searching we could find anything better or truer than this account but as it is you will observe that the three of you the wisest of all the Greeks alive at this moment you and polus and gorgias are unable to demonstrate the necessity of living any other life than this which Curly brings advantage after death as well and that's another paragraph and that's how we end isn't it no want to go back to the opening line of the myth then listen as they say to this very fine tell which you may consider a myth but I regard as a true story for I wanted take four I want you to take everything I shall say is strict true he takes everything is strict truth then going back up with all of the references is made because we have to find these connections they knew them I'm just filling them in this was known this mythology was known therefore what is it that's true that there's a metaphysics behind it and what can you see behind it nothing other than one principal triangular model that runs through the entire thing for relations or constant though the terms for each may change and what does he do with mythology it brings it down to the level where he wants to discuss some problem find what's parallel to it in this map personify it with certain people bring them in in terms of the family relationships that already exist in the mythology match it with his metaphysics or metaphysics matches the mythology or the mythology match matches the metaphysics which either way you want so you have a perfect unity between the two thank you that's what I wanted to play with no this is he only had these two he didn't have any returned there's no mention of any return in the time of Zeus during the rap army during the reign of Kronos this is the reign of Kronos this is the reign of Kronos with the beginning reign of Zeus it failed because the wrong people were going to the wrong places that's right and the judges themselves were a lot so he changes that right says this can no longer endure we need this new order and with this new water therefore we get a new element and that is we also get a return we didn't have a return before all we had is the islands of the bust and Tartarus no mention of any return no understanding what was going on in that realm that's right the curable I'm not sure I have your question I want to try to go [Applause] well after they after they pay off their do whatever it is they are what part done is it well the third choices is offered between the curable and the incurable the curable are cured of their set of their punishment and therefore they can return then they can return so between the two extremes will be curable the other return you have to have you have to have a return because now we have piles of the blest and now we have the two regions of Hades right the incurable and the curable here the curable and the curable can return not to the Omnibus they can return for they a new existence and the possibility of getting there no this this myth says nothing about this journey it says nothing about this says nothing about the Isles of the blast in the Phaedo we remember we got a good deal about the dynamics of the underworld here we get the judgment of the underworld in those two classes but we don't get any insight into this realm get there that's right that's right there's no way of there's no way of understanding what brings people see this all this allows is a I better not use that model maybe for knowing because it already exists to another purpose [Applause] I'll this is what's we're gonna call this the Isles with a blessed Hades our Tartarus and here you just go from here to here you find out what's going on you find out what brought people here you don't you don't find out anything about this passage nor do you discover any geography of that or any of description of the journey of the soul here that's left out what you do get is that there are two parts in this land of Tartarus and how the judgments are being made essentially it's what you're getting and the Phaedo you're getting that's the struggles of those who have already been judged and the Phaedo you don't get any judgment that that is to say don't understand how the judgments are being made and the gorges should do in the Phaedo you see the journey into the Otherworld into Tartarus and the other rivers [Music] the various yeah where is the maneuver and the Phaedrus and then you work out all the different people work out all these questions that's wrong up here yeah that's where we're going yeah yeah that's right I think what would be really splendid as I hope one day someone will do is to get a mural or a cd-rom where you can link them all together link them all together like they have yeah Stockman know when you do that doesn't mention where is the source of do so because we'll use the fact since we live on this actually used to start the Sun point being on earth but cutting foam wall that that is a starting point you mean source has the origin other that's the Plato's time is that's the time is see in the realm of the soul see on each level there are primarily ideas associated with each level controlling ideas for each level on the level of the soul there is similarity and dissimilarity and similarity and dissimilarity presuppose a prior in order to talk about similarity and dissimilarity that presupposes that you can talk about identity identity and difference or other news for sometimes they talk about it as same same and other news that any one of these words will do it presupposes a the basic kind of thinking that man has to learn must deal with similarity and dissimilarity because with that then you can appreciate the idea of same and difference and if you go from the same a difference that means you can then go into unity and finally one each one of these has their own metaphysics each one has their own domain and each one as it were can be expressed with these these basic ideas the basic notion is similarity and dissimilarity in the Platonic world or any world I guess it presupposes relations and terms when you have when you have terms in the same class if you have terms of the same class being related to terms and similar class by boiling it let me make this even better you can have an order of ideas let's take them the Shepherd is two sheep they are in the same class the class of husbandry or caring is to a captain and his crew or a physician and his patients the relationships between a shepherd and his sheep are going to be care guide protect watch over care protect watch over now watch how you need the word similar do you want to say a captain relates to its crew and a physician relates to patients must they not both care for their crew physician cares for his patients don't you want to say they must protect them watch over them be concerned with them in the same way or a similar way must be similar agree otherwise the captain would take his crew up to the mountain sea grass which is against the FDA right right resident they don't want the crew going up there and eating ground some mountain times okay and it would be ludicrous wouldn't it then the captain would take over would bring we would probably use a job to keep his crew in line while he climb mountains to look for lush meadows so it's not same it's similar so as we appreciate similarity and difference that's the realm of analogy that's the realm of mathematics that's the realm of abstract thought similar any difference because the presupposes same notice what a presupposes shepherd and sheep there's they belong in the same class captains and crew belong in the same class we can say they belong in the same class there's one class then one and this is one but yet even though they are in similar classes there must be a dissimilarity between them therefore the primary terms for using the mind for mankind is to come to grips with functioning with similarity dissimilarity that then brings them to understand and appreciate the role of same and other or same and difference which you can then raise to the question of the unity of these ideas and behind the idea of unity presupposes the idea of one each one of these rounds of ideas is appropriate to each one of these realms which can be represented mythically metaphysically we either way in analogical formations so I hope that I didn't take the two of Oh good thank you well I was looking at this maybe it's even picked orally you know I think maybe even a B Charlie you might be able to do as a and the artists might be able to arrange it but [Applause] then experienced highest experience then see that would be coming forward right and then another one in terms of what we were doing mine and then be on another another page right soul in general particular Souls and just representatives as separate plastic sheets as it were being superimposed and then you might be able then to work out the mythologies for each one in the language for each one the metaphysics for each one on separate sheets and that would be a nice way to represent it but I didn't think of that before but you know then you could go in and out and you could see therefore there's an intimate connection between Greek mythology and metaphysics and the vectorial way in which they represent it and all the images associated with them right you could play back and forth through that yeah yeah yes yes with your fractal that is fractals isn't it yeah that's right because the further you go the same and by the way you can do each one of these and in this this realm you can do the same thing again going this way uh-huh yellow doesn't show in Procol this is really pro calissa's work you can then talk about it this way as well that is to say you can talk about existence as being then you can talk about the mantra met what we're doing before you can talk about the mind of existence we can talk about the power of the of being you can talk about the activities of being which is really another and so on with each of these you can then break out and therefore it's well ordered you can pull it out and it'll probably break somewhere but in the good part of it it should remain because sometimes models doesn't you know don't represent totally a theoretical system but I think it would represented a large percentage of [Applause] processing yeah which have never managed to allow computers to understand the story you can't just understand the syntax etcetera in 1956 ago they're gonna Seoul not allow across in by 58 and they still haven't I'm using this and now that you know maybe oh I do it myself I think the knowledge is the key to all of us because it makes everything Claire important but equally well there's a special language and importance on certain concepts as you just said as well and that you can be someone can be brought into a different dialogue so that they can then appreciate these levels of ideas as they become more familiar they gain greater access to the very thing that's significant to the system you know a lot of fun good thank you thank you [Music] you [Music]
Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Recovering from a Long Day (7.5.21 - Day 2562)
hmm good very morning everybody the moon's even trying to show its face this morning uh it has dropped in temperature 59 degrees this morning so it was after one o'clock when i decided to well not decided to but when the video finally got exported and uh or was exporting so after one o'clock i'd lay down the recliner with free and woke up at 236 hit upload and the video is stuck at 43 right now it is 5 30 in the morning but uh yeah so official bedtime was 2 36 but i did get about an hour and a half sleep before that less than that less than that 45 minutes before that grumpy where are you at come on we gotta go outside you just stumbled up oh he's not there okay where are you at grumpy you know over here you just snuggle right against me on the outside of the bed come on little grumper come on buddy gekko potties let's go potty says he's gotta go work come on little dog come on you can do it nope i don't wanna all right got a little man on the bed yes i did and i'm just really shocked at this sky this morning it's really pretty and the fact that little mr crescent moon is up there just chilling out [Music] so [Music] so [Music] all righty day is over unfortunately we did not get changed today so back to card mode only for the self checks hopefully tomorrow we're rounding again because if not we are in big trouble we are that low we are down to like 75 pennies they didn't bring us pennies this time around so it's uh time to that's a that's a pain cut emptying all the change hoppers but got it done oh i can't wait to go home and just relax i i i want a nap but if i don't just sitting in the air conditioning just chilling will be so much so nice i am so tired from last night it's worth it don't get me wrong i'm not saying it wasn't worth it and i do want to make up i got to look at both footages that was the iphone footage i used in the video last night i do want to look at the sony again um because i want to post one of the videos basically in its entirety well that was in its entirety but without the vlog itself and uh just uh have the fireworks on their own because then i can throw it up on facebook and stuff uh my personal one as well as the vlog channel in case anybody just wants to watch fireworks separately without me talking so at some point i'll do that tonight and uh yeah get puppies out get them for a very quick walk it is a car's saying 100 degrees watch says 88 so it's uh it's probably 95 degrees or no and it's probably about 1993. to go to like 90 but i think it's hotter than that daddy's home yay look who i caught because he's wearing his bird collar and didn't bark at me came over right to me i think he hopes i might take it off of him we'll see i don't know undecided but it is beautiful out and it was 93 on the way home a couple degrees off it's usually about five now come on leave that alone let's go sick you've heard of drama queens right i'm trying to get her to go outside and go for a walk and this is the attitude i'm getting come on brie let's go for a walk she was laying on the couch i picked her up and she just never even put her front feet down just right on her shoulder come on come on let's go come on priya come on baby let's go come on let's go for a walkie walk then you get a treat come on do you like treats stretch that long body use stretch it alrighty we are outside finally and the sun is starting to set now that's basically going down it was really bright when i just took trash out well so well so much for taking a nap i ended up watching [Music] what did i watch first though it's a movie with daniel ray radcliffe when he gets the guns bolted to his hands actually i don't remember the name of it something amigo guns and me i don't have to look again and the other one was uh with megan fox it was rogue where uh i'm thinking it was a group of mercenaries basically hired by a prime minister of another country to rescue his daughter that had been kidnapped and uh goes sideways really bad so the one the first one was on amazon prime which were daniel radcliff and the other one was on uh hulu but both were pretty entertaining they kept me uh kept me entertained the whole time but then i had to import and get the fourth of july footage re-exported for a separate video oh yeah people are still setting off fireworks and it's funny because apparently the firework tent that we had at work um they ran out they literally sold out they didn't get as much as they had because of cove and all that and uh yeah they didn't have anything left and he had everything cleaned up but uh because he was asking for a member of management he wanted to basically thank us and management was too busy to come up front but yeah i'm uh i'm gonna post the i mean that was the fireworks in the entirety in the vlog but i'm gonna do it as a standalone video as well just the fireworks um and that way i can people just want to watch and they can send it to my mom and stuff without you know the vlog itself so i don't know hurts or helps but i do it every year so might as well continue the tradition so i'm gonna get this uh this day a little longer it's like four minutes and 30 seconds so damn hot when i got home and i wanted to lay down every time of course having a 20 ounce red bull during the morning and then a 16 ounce big bull at lunch i finally started getting energy after work of course not just being just not being there it's like okay now i have a will to will to be awake come on leave the little animals alone there's always kitty cats laying underneath the cars and she always has to go try to say hi to him you don't want to say hi baby look at those ears flopping back and forth youtube yours you date hard your princess hears i'm a little princess so to verify tonight that i made the right choice in last night's video and in the full version i actually stacked the iphone footage and the sony rx10 footage and clearly i'll show a screen grab on the screen here of them side by side you see colors in the iphone where there is no colors it's just blown out you might have the wrong mode on the rx100 or the rx10 because it doesn't technically have firework mode like the rx100 and some other sonys have had but it had a a twilight stabilized on tripod mode and that's what i put it in might not have been the right one so i don't know according to the internet though they're supposed to be a firework mode i couldn't find it i looked pretty hard but anyway the iphone won out big time in my opinion about the looks of how many cars are not here i'm guessing they're coming back tomorrow we're not crossing there guys come on come on get off the pavement earlier i made sure they couldn't get on there because i don't want to burn their balls into their puppy pads that would not be cool be very hot actually for a while there are a couple days they had really really hot paws and then they finally cooled back down i don't know if i took them on a walk and i shouldn't have they burned them but i felt like they it's really hot to the touch i planned on being in bed by now but it's 10 24 i'm gonna call tonight obviously there's nothing else i want to do except go to bed today's video a little weak i'm sorry but i'm still quite tired from last night's little adventure and not so much the advantage of the adventure itself but the editing of it was it just took so long i didn't get a lot of sleep so hope you guys understand thanks for watching and we'll see you tomorrow as always [Music] you
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Girlfriend's Reaction To My New NOSE PIERCING!! *CUTE REACTION*
what's going on everyone welcome back to another video If you guys enjoy the channel make sure you guys hit that subscribe button turn on your post notification Bell leave a positive comment down below for a chance to get a post notification shout out at the end of today's video Dang guys I feel like it's been a while since your boy's done a prank it really has been I feel a couple of weeks I'm not sure when's the last prank I did but that's gonna change today as you guys can tell about title and thumbnail of the video your boy's basically going to be getting a nose piercing to see how my girlfriend reacts now Janiece is currently in the bathroom she's getting ready she's using the bathroom taking a shower doing all that good stuff so I know I have a lot of time to do the intro because like I said girls be taking forever to get ready I don't know why but yeah the other day I went on Amazon and I ordered this fake nose ring now this is something I don't know if you guys can see it it's really small but Janiece has been wanting me to get her nose ring for I don't know how long she tells me I would look so attractive wearing it and whatnot I don't know I can't see myself with any like facial piercings at all when I was younger in middle school I wanted like my eyebrow appears now I'm looking back and I'm like no absolutely not so yeah I don't know piercings is really not my thing but she thinks I'd look great in it and she honestly wants me to get so bad so today we're gonna be pranking her I'm gonna go slip this on it's literally just like a slip-on kind of thing but it looks really real I'll show you guys when I put it on and then I'm basically just going to set up the camera and we're going to wait for her to see and get her reaction I think she's going to be so freaking excited and she's gonna be like all four and then she's gonna be so sad when I take it off and be like baby's fake but yeah guys also comment down below team Isaiah all day every day we are back with the bangers guys we're in a new house so you know what that means new heat new bangers new pranks if you guys ready for today's video make sure you guys smash that thumbs up button again comment down below team Isaiah and let's get it okay guys so she's in the bathroom right now I don't know if you guys can hear the blow dryer she's still doing her hair but this is how the nose ring looks it looks pretty real if you guys ask me but right now what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna knock on the door or like scream her name I'm gonna tell her to come up and have a surprise that I want to show her and then we'll catch her reaction there again if you guys are ready make sure you guys comment down below team Isaiah all day every day give this video a big thumbs up and let's get into it foreign are you still doing your hair you're still doing your hair finishing touches are still doing your hair what do you want I have a surprise I want to show you well you got to step out first but don't like barge open the door like come out slowly okay are you ready open slowly slowly stay behind the door stay behind the door just follow my instructions okay all right so I got something done this morning while I was out don't come around the door don't come around so I got something done this morning when I was gone stop why are you touching my hair why are you what are you doing hiding behind the door because I have to show you something I got something done this morning while I was out okay done it's something that you wanted me to do for a while now all right but I want you to guess first what you might think it is you got more rings no what no I want to get more Rings though so okay I'll give you a hint it's one something done yeah you wanted me to do it for a while what I'll give you a hint it's one of two things all right it's either a tattoo or it's a piercing you think I got you I don't know that you don't know that stops thank you for your door stay behind the door why don't ruin it I'm not ruining anything you're hiding for what you say you had a surprise it yes which one do you think it is tattoo or piercing neither of them I don't believe you it's one of them no yours I promise you it's one of them I promise tell me what Daddy's doing Pinky Promise it's one of them just pick which one you think I got come on don't leave me hanging come on no way all right which one do you think tattoo or piercing go stop don't don't try to spoil it tattoo piercing let's go a piercing okay where nose piercing piercing I've got the nose piercing I got it no you did it don't touch it don't touch it don't touch it I'm not gonna touch it I still feel like my nostril is like throbbing they were trying to give me like this stud the little dot yeah I was gonna say they're supposed to give you the stud first I told him I wanted the ring they were like all right but they were like you know there's a chance that I could get infected I was like I'll take the chance holy don't touch it please don't touch it it hurts that thing is lame what that piercing is thick thick thin what does it matter oh my God that was a hurtful right it wasn't that bad I'm not gonna lie it's not like it didn't hurt but it didn't it wasn't why would you get it done without because I wanted to show you it was like a surprise please don't touch it please don't touch it so weird like this is like do you like it I don't know I'm still getting used to it well you can always take it out but it looks good you look nice I'm still getting used to it it's weird it's weird though I don't know I don't know if I got it on the right side I don't know it doesn't really matter the side you just have to like dress like I don't know like aren't you supposed to get aren't you like guys supposed to get like piercings like on the left side or something like that like isn't that like a rule when it came to earrings it was like if you had one that had you I don't know babe I don't know about that stuff I don't know I don't know is it on the right side I think it doesn't matter you look good are you trying to make me feel better no I think it's different it's a little weird what do you mean it's different because like I don't know it's not your aesthetic you know what I mean we're getting the light looking in the light okay I'm looking at it in the line okay yeah babe it looks good actually nice because like a lot of people it doesn't suit them it suits you you have such a nice nose thanks I guess you do you just look so handsome I got silver but I want to get another one I want to get gold I think gold will look better really yeah I got solo because all I wear is silver no I just think we got a skin tone like gold would look a lot better and you have to get a thinner ring I think it's just because the ring is so thick like I don't know it looks like a little why would I think thicker would look better no babe I think a thinner one would look better that's like really big that ring no it's not it's thin nah it's nothing I've seen thinner yo if you give me five dollars I'll rip it out right now huh you're gonna hurt yourself don't rip it well how am I supposed to take it out um you're supposed to they never told me how to take it out where did you go no next to Publix there was like a piercing shop oh my God that's Yankee all right well they got the job though what does it matter where I got it how do I take it off babe they're supposed to give you after Karen all of that bro I told him I got alcohol at home I just like no you don't even clean how do I take it oh I want to show you the hole why because it looks cool you can't take it out you need to let it heal they how do I take am I supposed to like pull it out does it unlocks I don't know I never had a nose piercing I'm just gonna pull it out no I want to pull it out no I know you're not supposed to do that no stop stop because no you're gonna make me hit it stop you're gonna make me hit it sit bro six weeks no 16 arms look arm's length don't pull it you're gonna hurt yourself okay I will take it out gently no yes just look at it on Google first why would I look on Google how to probably take out a piercing a nose one I'm just gonna all right just don't come near me because then you're gonna scare me and then I'm going to yank you bro how am I supposed don't pull it ah sorry it's great look it's fake Dan Ryan you know I would never get a nose piercing here you could use it though why not because you had it all those are yours all right you acting like you're gonna be all the business notes no I don't yeah a little dot because it was tight it's not real though that's what she said that is what she said all right so but damn y'all feel like you like me a little more I feel like you like me better with a nose ring no I actually like you without it no look now you're acting different bro you're switching up you're right you've been acting funny ever since I got a nose ring oh my God who makes you doing your hair you've been acting funny ever since I got a nose right now I actually like you without a face oh yeah really you're perfect without you don't don't blemish your skin you was talking all that out for the past couple weeks well I think you should get a nose ring I think it'd look good on you I think you'd look sexy nah I changed my mind I don't like it though so now I'm ugly you see that over here now I'm ugly yeah the prank started so we we just flipped my lip yes I did I'm going back ow you walked into that one I'm sorry but you walked into that one go go finish your hair we got I want I want to eat all right for the fair so that is it for today's video I really feel like my girlfriend liked me a lot better when I had that nose ringing that's not true I don't know bro your true colors are starting to show I feel uneasy about this now how I feel uneasy about this I don't know if it's gonna last now because with that nose ring I felt like I was getting treated differently no you weren't I felt like I was being like treated like a king oh whatever you're doing the most what no seriously guys if you guys enjoyed today's video make sure you guys smash that Thumbs Up Button comment down below team I say you guys already know we're coming with them bangers the Heat and the new house new house new pranks okay you're so jelly get out of here bro this is my outro let's get out of here all right bye get out of here so yeah guys that is it for today's video it is time for today's post notification shout out today's post notification shout out goes out to Sean Salvo shout out to you bro thank you so much for love and support if you guys want to post notification shout out all you guys got to do is like comment share subscribe comment down below team Isaiah all day every day and we'll see you guys in the next video [Music]
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DARK Time Machine Timeline Explained | DARK Netflix Season 3
quick warning this video will be full of spoilers for dark so don't watch this until you finish the series throughout darks three seasons we see many characters in possession of suitcase time machines including Jonas Claudia and bartosz just to name a few it's easy to think there are a handful of machines floating around but things get more complicated and more fun when you realize these are all the same machine just at different points in its timeline Baron bode our co creator of the show confirmed as much in an interview with vulture hearing this I had to get out my pen and paper fire up Netflix and do my best to track this time machines voyage from creation through its long journey between our cast of characters before we start the journey just a quick reminder to hit the like button hit the subscribe button and the bell icon so you get notified the next time we do a video I should briefly note that dark gives us a lot of clues about the time machines journey however there are a couple of points where we have to make assumptions or educated guesses based on the information given I'll make sure to call out wherever I'm making assumptions and you can let me know in the comments if you disagree or have other theories our time machines journey actually begins in 2040 claudia has been holding back Eunice's attempts to stabilize the god particle in order to preserve the knot she's also been meeting with Claudia from Eva's world on a regular basis however after realizing her goals are not exactly aligned with Eva's hour Claudia kills other Claudia and takes her place in the guise of this other Claudia she visits Eva's world and receives the time machine blueprints Eva hands them over with the instruction that they should be shared with our Claudia who should then hand them to HT Thanh house so he can build the time machine in about 10 years Claudia heads to the Past to take care of some final tasks this includes a pit stop in 1953 where she hands the blueprints over town house begins the long construction process in 33 years later in 1986 an older Jonas stops in the clock shop with an old worn-out time machine he asks Thanh house to repair it he is unable to do so however after 33 years of attempting to build the time machine per the blueprints he is finally able to complete it by learning from Jonas's worn-out broken time machine Jonas returns to collect his repaired time machine but is instead given the brand-new one at at thanh house finally finished constructing with Jonas the time machine begins a decade's long journey it's important to highlight here that the old broken time machine that Jonas brings in is the same time machine as the wanton house hands him this video will chronicle the journey of this time machine through the years as it becomes older eventually breaks and is finally returned to Thanh house where it meets its younger self this time machines journey begins in the clock shop when it is handed to Jonas and ends in the clock shop when it is returned by Jonas now worn out and no longer working with his brand-new time machine older Jonas heads to 2019 where he uses the machine to close the tunnel under wind and cave later as the apocalypse approaches Jonas uses the machine to take his mother Hannah on a trip to 1987 so she can see Miguel witnessing the machines power and growing tired of her life in 2020 Hannah steals the device and with it heads to 1954 while there she strikes up an affair with a young Egon Tiedemann becomes pregnant with his child and ultimately leaves him it's not totally clear where or when Hannah heads from here but where or whenever she is we know she gives birth to cilia Hannah and her child are visited by Eva who tells her where she can find Jonas still in possession of The Time Machine Hannah heads to 1911 there a more Adam looking Jonas is both reunited with his mother and his time machine for close to a decade as far as we know The Time Machine doesn't see any action however in 1920 Noah arrives from the future seeking counsel with Adam this is when Adam explains to Noah that claudia has taken some pages out of the triquetra notebook no one must head to the Future where he'll work with Helga recruit bartosz and find those pages Noah takes the time machine from Adam who previously retrieved it from Hannah and heads to the future we don't need to trace every one of Noah's steps but we know he recruits Helga in 1953 kidnaps Jonas in 1986 and most importantly in 2020 we learned that Noah has handed the time machine to bartosz we know bartosz learned how to use it but it's unclear if he ever traveled with the machine except for the one time we witness it searching for answers Bart OSHA's friends Magnus Francisca Elizabeth and Marta head to the wind and cave where they find bartosz and his time machine after some interrogation he shows them how the machine works by taking them on a brief journey to 1987 after their return Katarina confiscates the device in the hopes of using it to retrieve Miguel though she never actually does around this time a young Jonas reopens the passage under wind and cave believing this represents a chance to save Miquel Katarina abandons the time machine at the con Wald residence and heads to the tunnels with Katarina gone the machine is finally back with Jonas with the apocalypse at hand Jonas uses the machine to transport him and his friends to safety the machine takes Jonas Magnus Francisca and bartosz to 1888 where the machine will again lie dormant for some time this is one part of the timeline where we need to do some guesswork we know that at some point in older claudia takes possession of the time machine going over the timeline I think this is the period where it most likely happened Jonas is allegiance to Claudia is unclear we know he trusted her at one time but as he grew older began to question her motives believing she was starting to side with Adam once Jonas begins his transition to Adam he may have once again sided with Claudia I believe that at some point in the decade or two after 1888 Claudia visits Adam and retrieves the time machine so she can pass it to her younger self she would have no trouble doing so since she possesses the powerful time-travel orb retrieved from the other Claudia also I think Adam would be willing to hand the time machine over after Claudia provides some explanation along the lines of if you want to destroy the knot you need to prepare wait the cycle one more time by giving me the machine so you become who you need to be in the future so Claudia retrieves the time machine from Jonas / Adam in the late 1800s Early 1900s then in 1987 older Claudia hands younger Claudia a map in some instructions older Claudia heads to 1954 and buries the time machine before she is killed by Noah 33 years later in 1987 younger Claudia follows the instructions and map left for her by her older self digging in the backyard she finds the Buried time machine and begins her time-travel adventures travelling to 2020 Claudia sees her ill daughter and in the library catches up on the prior 33 years events learning of her father's mysterious death in 1987 a Claudia returns to her time and tries to prevent it she of course inadvertently causes her father's death and realizes it is one of the many sacrifices she'll need to make in perpetuating the cycle when she returns home a young Jonas promises to show her how to change the timeline for the better they head to the cave retrieve some cesium and then crawl through the tunnels Jonas and Claudia used the machine to reopen the passage then head to 2020 where Jonas instructs Claudia to bring the time machine to the bunker she grabs Regina and they ride out the apocalypse machine in hand in the Doppler family bunker reopening the passage or the apocalypse itself seems to have damaged the machine so Claudia puts it aside and instead focuses on stabilizing the god particle eventually she runs into Jonas in the to spend decades working on it with Claudia secretly sabotaging their efforts in 2050 - Claudia allows the particle to stabilize meaning it's time for an aged Jonas to head back in time and kick off another cycle Claudia gives Jonas the old broken time machine and tells him that HG taun house can repair it so after waiting uselessly for 32 years the time machine is taken by Jonas to 1986 where it finally meets its younger self the machine will not be repaired but by looking at it taun house will be able to complete construction of his brand-new time machine with the device back in town houses shop in 1986 the circle is complete after traversing multiple centuries the machine has reached its final resting place just as its younger self is about to begin the same journey to see where it goes next just rewind to about the minute and a half mark of this video and watch it again as I mentioned there are a couple of points where the machine changes hands and the show doesn't explicitly reveal where or when that happens the first example is Noah he gives the machine to bartosz but when did Noah get it in the first place since Noah came to this time from Adam in 1920 and we know Hannah brought a machine to Adam in 1911 I assume the machine went from Hannah to Adam to Noah the other major assumption I made is around older Claudia in 2050 - she gives yonus her broken time machine at that point the only machine she should have is the orb stolen from other Claudia and she'd have access to the now stabilized god particle however we clearly see older Claudia used the suitcase time machine and of course she buries it for her younger self to find tracing the time line the only opportunity I can see for her to retrieve a suitcase time machine is sometime in the late 1800s or early 1900s after Jonas and his friends are stranded in 1888 it's unclear what happens to their time machine so by process of elimination I assumed this was when older Claudia obtained the machine anyway that about wraps it up in the comments let me know if you agree or disagree with my timeline or do you have your own theories on the time machines travels also let me know if you have any other questions or topics you'd like to see me cover here and if you enjoyed this video please don't forget to hit the like button hit the subscribe button and the bell icon so you get notified the next time we release a video thanks for watching and see you on the next one take
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Obedience and Itiba: A Path to Self-Discipline #ramadan
the practice of obey, obedience and obeying the teaching is to bring a discipline with on the self so that we can obey the real self not the self that people talk about they talk about the self which we we know to be the nafs but obedience and Itiba and following from it's a training in which to be enrolled in a school of guidance that I'm going to follow my best Allah's commands I'm going to follow my best the commands and the teachings of Sayyidina Muhammad ﷺ and exhibited by example through the Shaykhs, wa ulil amri minkum
The Muhammadan Way Sufi Realities
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QAC Long Term Care Ombudsman Pat Hodges - An Interview
hey queens county today i am joined by pat hodges from the ombudsman program right here in queens county and you probably heard that name and you're like i don't know what ombudsman is it's scandinavian i looked it up scandinavian very good for advocate it is so you're an advocate in queens county so let's talk about that okay thank you for joining us today pat thank you for having me sure so advocate ombudsman what is it um an ombudsman is an advocate for people who reside in long-term care nursing homes assisted livings you know community care right people that are not in their homes exactly and this is a free service in queens county it is and people don't even know that you're there for them right there are a lot of people that don't don't realize that we're there for their residents and for the you know for the residents themselves and their family so we can we can help them with a lot of things right so what what exactly is that you do that we help people resolve issues that they may be having in a nursing home or in assisted living we help them [Music] to stand up for their rights we teach them what their rights are we investigate complaints that we get we get complaints from all kinds of people anybody can call and make a complaint but the resident is our sole person that we work for so without their permission we can't do anything um everything's confidential we can't discuss it with anyone um not even our co-workers unless they're ombudsman it's a very unique group yeah and we're also talking you're there for the residents that are at these places but you're also there for families so people that have members could also reach out to you right right right family members that are concerned about maybe care that their loved one's getting can call and we can you know we can investigate that with the resident's permission right sometimes a family member wants us to investigate and the resident doesn't and in that case i can't right so i would kind of look more broadly in the in the facility to see if that issue is happening in more than one place sure and we were talking uh when people want to contact you you do get a chance to make it to all the the nursing homes in the area we do visit but if maybe you're not going to be there a little bit they can reach out to you so how will they do that they can call me at um and the phone line is confidential no one has access to it other than me it's 410-758-0848 and my direct extension is 2714. right they can also email me at p hodges qac.org and i can always get back to them i'm usually back to people within 24 hours awesome so can we talk about what's it like for you do you like we talk about the program but i want to know in your daily life like it's what's an experience like when you when you get to deal with the best part of it yeah is talking to the residents and learning their stories and their histories and and just making them smile yeah making them feel like they're important giving them the time to tell you their story right you know and then you i want people to feel comfortable talking to me so that they will gain trust and be able to open up if they're you know if they're willing to so and you're a very busy person yes and you must still love to be able to take the time to hear those stories that's great that's the best part of the job is actually visiting with the residents and talking to them and there's a lot of documentation that we have to do um but that's okay i don't mind doing that i just i would much prefer just go chat with people because i'm pretty good at that yeah so if you're watching right now well obviously we're queens county you're the queen's county ombudsman and but this is a program all throughout maryland and yes i guess i assume i know it's in maryland all throughout the united states there's there's an ombudsman for every county in the state right and baltimore city has their own and and some have more than one but kent county has one they cover kent county caroline county and talbot county and then the lower shore she covers the five lower counties um and i won't say them because i'm not sure if i could say that that's her job anyway but um i am the only ombudsman here i have one volunteer um but we're fortunate we only have five assisted livings and the nursing home so um we're pretty rural so if someone is looking for information or they're reaching out for an ombudsman they will be talking to you pat yep and you can't wait to hear from them i bet sure that's right call me i'd love to talk to you sure well thank you so much for coming in and introducing queens county if they don't know to our ombudsman program thank you for having me of course advocate in scandinavia advocate thank you for watching today we want you to go online to get more information you can go to qac.org and you look up the embodsment program and you can always find our videos on qactv.com thank you for watching and we'll see you next time sailors
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THE BEST & THE WORST PROTEIN BARS & TASTE TEST!! | MYWW | WEIGHT WATCHERS!
- welcome back to my channel and welcome if you're new here I have a super special video for you guys today we are going to talk all things protein bars and I'm telling you all things protein bars I spent weeks hours and hours doing the research for this video going to my local health food store to see what types of protein bars are out there on the market some of these bars are going to be very familiar to you and some of these are going to be new finds maybe things that you haven't seen in your local grocery store and some that are kind of customized to your natural food or your health food store but I wanted to get a variety of protein bars for this video I took a look at several things when putting this together number one I looked at the ingredients in the protein bars I also looked at the smart points in the protein bar and I also looked at the price because I wanted to share a good comparison of these different protein bars with you so what this video is going to basically entail is I'm going to share with you dozens of protein bar options we're going to talk about good options for protein bars good meaning ingredient wise and smart point wise and we're also going to talk about those maybe not so good options for protein bars based on ingredients and smart points and then at the end we are going to do a taste test of some protein bars about five that I've never tried before that fall in the good option category whether that be ingredients smart points or both so if you are here for it if you have a little bit of time on your hands and you want to know all things protein bars stay tuned [Music] so let's jump in to today's video we have a lot a lot of protein bars to go over so I'm going to start with number one and that is the no cow bar so this is a protein bar that is dairy free now this bar falls as a ah it's okay bar there are four ingredients present in the know cow bar that I generally don't like to see those four ingredients are peanut oil natural flavors your wrist at all which is a sugar alcohol and palm oil none of those ingredients are super desirable and really in any food so I would give the no cow bar on a scale of one to ten I'll do my best to rate all of the bars ten being absolutely phenomenal and one being absolutely avoidable I would put the no cow bar kind of right in the middle acts five on the scale the smart points of the no cow bar are four to five if you're looking for a dairy-free bar this is an option for you but there are a lot of other better dairy-free options out there number two are the bobo's bars and I have seen these at my local coffee shops I've honestly never had them now these bars are pretty good there are two ingredients in the bobo's bars that aren't my favorite and those two ingredients are canola oil which isn't expeller pressed and natural flavor now these bars are seven smart points so they are a little bit higher in the smart point range but I would rate these on the one-to-ten scale at about a seven because the ingredients are pretty good with the exception of those two but they are a little bit high in smart points next are the primal kitchen bars you guys know I love my primal kitchen Mayo my primal kitchen dressings it's such a fantastic brand and they outdid themselves on their protein bar just like a lot of their other products so the primal kitchen protein bars they only have one ingredient that I don't love and that is natural flavor now natural flavor is basically artificial flavor so if they just use like an extract or real fruit that would be even better but overall the primal Jabbar's rate about an 8 out of 10 on the scale now these bars are going to cost you five to seven smart points so not too bad just depending on the flavor whether they are five or seven points next are the quest bars and I know that these are extremely popular in the WW community but I hate to break it to you these definitely don't fall on the high end of the scale so the quest bars the reason that they're not some of my top bars are their ingredients they contain ingredients such as your wrist at all which is that sugar alcohol natural flavor but they also contain sucralose which is a chemically processed sugar so they have a sugar alcohol and sucralose so they're kind of double dipping in the sugar alcohols I know that as heavy amounts of your rifra tall do cause a lot of stomach and digestion issues for people and quests your retro tile count is pretty high so I would rate quest probably a four out of ten as far as good ingredients go on the scale now they are pretty low in smart points they range for about four to five smart points so you're going to find a common trend in the protein bar world if they contain a lot of artificial sweeteners sugar alcohols or just not good for you sugar alternatives they're going to generally be lower in smart points because smart point values are based on sugar that's one of the components that go into making a smart point value so bars that use real natural whole sugar are gonna always cost you a little more in smart points so just keep that in mind as we go through the bars next up is the rise bar I had never seen this before I found this at my local health food store and I was pretty excited about this bar it has pretty darn good ingredients so the rice bar gets a 9 out of 10 on the scale and I'll tell you why there are three only three ingredients in these bars and those three ingredients are almonds honey and whey protein now of course the almonds and honey are gonna vary based on the flavor but three whole food ingredients and the protein powder is pretty good ingredients as well so I'm gonna give the rise and 9 out of 10 now the rice bars are going to cost you about eight to nine smart points why you ask because they use honey and we are penalized for sugar and there is a lot of in honey so these are going to cost you more in smart points but as far as ingredients go these are top-notch next are the ding bars dang those bars I know a lot of you have heard of those I've seen these kind of in the WW community these bars have a couple of ingredients that I don't love and those ingredients are natural flavors aka artificial flavors and sunflower oil and it looks like they actually have natural flavors twice so I would imagine that there are two different types of natural / artificial flavors in these bars now also these bars are pretty Point heavy they're going to cost you about seven smart points for a bar so I'm gonna put these pretty far down on this scale at about a three out of ten based on the ingredients and the smart point value again there are so many lower point better ingredient options out there I probably wouldn't be picking up a lot of these dang bars next is a bar that a lot of us have eaten throughout the years we see bees all over the world and these are the cliffs bars your basic Clif Bar now these for me are an absolute no-go for two reasons one of them is the ingredients and the second one is the smart point so the Clif Bar contains two ingredients that I absolutely do not love number one is Clif bars have soybeans in them soybeans are always GMO if they don't state that they're organic and non-gmo the Clif Bar does not say either of those things so they're gonna be heavily sprayed with glyphosate or roundup and they're also going to be GMO so I would stay away from that and secondly it does have rice syrup in there now you're gonna find rice syrup and a lot of protein bars it's just a fancy name for sugar so it basically has the same effect on your body as sugar so brown rice syrup isn't or rice syrup isn't absolutely ideal now in my opinion it's better than fake sugar and sugar alcohols but it is still going to spike your blood sugar and have the same effect as regular sugar would be and the worst part about the Clif bars besides the ingredients is they're going to cost you ten smart points no way so these are one out of ten on the scale next are the picky bars and I'd never seen these either and I found these out again my local health food store and I thought these looked really intriguing I'm thinking picky bar picky eater picky and so when I flipped it over there were a couple of ingredients I didn't love and that was safflower oil which was not expeller pressed and again brown rice syrup you're gonna see that a lot in these bars unfortunately now again I'd rather have brown rice syrup than sugar alcohols but the safflower oil not being expeller pressed is gonna be GMO so I would avoid that type of oil really at all and especially in a protein bar they could simply use like an avocado oil or a coconut oil and it's just a much cleaner healthier oil they're smart points are six to eight so they're a little bit point heavy as well for a couple of questionable ingredients so I would put these about a six out of ten on the scale next up is another popular bar and so many of you reach out and ask me if this bar was clean and that is the are X bar so when we think about the rx bar as a lot of you did myself included we think of this being a pretty clean bar unfortunately the art X bar has natural flavors aka artificial flavors so it's not an actual clean protein bar however it's cleaner than a lot of the other bars out there but that our X bar is going to cost you seven smart points so I don't know if the point value is necessarily worth it however if you're going to in a pinch grab a protein bar VR X bar is a pretty decent option rating about a seven out of ten on the scale next up is a bar made from a very popular protein powder brand called or gained organics they make a protein bar as well now what this bar has going for it is a pretty good smart point value what this bar doesn't have going for it is ingredients in the organ organic protein bars you are going to find tapioca syrup which is really just sugar your rifra tall which is a sugar alcohol so they're double dipping and sugar and natural aka artificial flavors so it has three ingredients that I don't absolutely love what I do love though is the smart point value ranges from 4 to 5 so pretty good on the scale for smart points just a few three pretty not so great ingredients so I would rate this a 5 out of 10 the next bar I've actually shared several times on my channel because I've purchased it off of the protein wise website and is the oak make up are these bars are really really good I've had several of the flavors and I really do like them but the ingredients my friends I was a little bit disappointed in the Omega bar you're going to find ingredients such as brown rice syrup again sunflower oil which is not expeller pressed and again natural flavors so three ingredients that I don't love dang it Omega bar now are these ingredients absolutely god-awful no but they're definitely not ingredients I would naturally reach for and the Omega bars are generally about six smart points apiece so I put these kind of right in the middle at five out of ten let's revisit the Clif Bar for a minute and talk about the cliff Z bar which is the Clif Bar that is designed for kids so it is going to be a little bit more point friendly because it's a kid size bar but again it has those terrible Clif Bar ingredients you're going to find cane sugar so actual worst of the worst sugar and natural flavors in the kids bars I don't know about you I don't have kids but I imagine if I did I wouldn't want to pump any more sugar into them than absolutely necessary so unfortunately the ingredients make the cliff kid or Z bar a no-go for me now the points are definitely better than the ten of the traditional flipbox these bars are half the point so they're about five smart points but because of the ingredients I would put these as about a five out of ten on the scale next up is the Luna bar this is another question a lot of you have asked is this a good choice for a clean protein bar you would think but not so fast my friend so the Luna bar has some ingredients I don't love brown rice syrup it also has palm oil which is not expeller press cane sugar and natural artificial flavors so four ingredients I would probably stay away from the Luna bar they don't taste the best now they're good in my opinion to me they don't taste the best but the ingredients are just not ingredients that I think that you should put into your body and the smart points aren't so hot either a Luna Bar is going to cost you six to seven smart points they're pretty small and with four not so great ingredients I would give these a three out of ten let's take another quick visit back down the cliff bar Road cliff bar also makes a cliff protein bar which is different than the true you know Clif Bar in the clip Z bar for kids now these protein bars claim to be great ingredients and good for you but when you flip over these bars they contain the ingredients like tapioca syrup which is sugar cane syrup palm oil and natural flavors so again double dipping the sugar which makes them sweet and delicious I can only imagine but these are also ten smart points like their traditional Clif Bar so I would rate these probably a 1 out of 10 on the scale because of the ingredients and the smart point value I would say overall for me I would probably just stay away from the Clif bars in general next is a bar called the new go organic bar I found this at my local health food store the packaging looked super appealing when I flipped it over I took a look at the ingredient and this bar contains again tapioca syrup natural flavors and cane sugar so kind of a double dip in the sugars again pretty high in sugar and sugars I don't love to see and then they swoop in some natural / artificial flavors as well and these bars are a little bit point heavy these bars range from 7 to 8 smart points I have noticed by the way 7 to 8 smart points apiece so I'm going to give these a 2 out of 10 for the ingredients and the fact that they are pretty Point heavy next is the Pro bar now this is another bar I'd never seen before that I found at my local health food store and again it claims to be a good protein bar actually more like a meal replacement bar but when I slipped the bar over I found ingredients that I don't love and a lot of them I found tapioca syrup agave syrup which really spikes your blood sugar cane sugar palm oil and natural flavors so we have 3 yes 3 sugars in one protein bar no way and these protein bars range for 7 to 10 smart points and you want to know why it's all the sugar that they put into these bars so I would absolutely stay away from this this would be a 1 out of 10 for me next is the epic bar so we've all seen the epic kind of meat bars kind of like a beef jerky in the form of a bar those are delicious and have great ingredients but epic also makes a protein bar and I was so excited to see this and these bars are amazing they have excellent ingredients literally you guys perfect perfect ingredients and they range from about 4 to 6 points depending on the bar so not only do they have a stellar ingredient they have amazing smart point values and we're going to taste test one of these new epic protein bars at the end of this video so I'm gonna give it a ten out of ten and stay tuned for the taste test there's also another new go bar out on the market that's called the new go slim so this is a smaller thinner bar kind of like the think thin which we'll get to that a little bit later but this bar has less smart points but unfortunately it still had a couple of questionable ingredients so in the new goes slim I found cane sugar and natural or artificial flavors these are only five smart points though because they're a thinner smaller version but for five points I don't love that it has sugar and natural flavors so I would give these a five out of ten now the next bar is going to be a little bit controversial so it depends on how you look at dried frozen fruit on your W W journey I do not count dried or frozen fruit because I don't over eat that I stick to one serving whether I'm having fresh dried or frozen so the next bar is called the backs it bar and literally that's it you guys it's made of fruit and it's pressed to form a bar so for me I would probably count these as zero smart points I would make sure that I drink a lot of water with these bars to kind of rehydrate the pressed fruit but there's no added sugar so again I would probably count these as zero but if you are following WW these would be five smart points apiece but you guys perfect ingredients ten out of ten it's literally just fruit so however you choose to count dried blended fruit you would count these bars either as zero points or five points but ten out of ten next up are my good love to build bars I know you guys are waiting for this one to come up so with the built bar you guys know I love these my beloved built bars I know you guys have been waiting for the built bar so I try to follow a clean approach 2ww as you know try to follow about the 90/10 role 90% of clean whole food and 10% foods that I love built bar falls into these foods that I love category but I wanted to share that with you today because as far as points go built bar number one lowest smart point you're gonna find of a protein bar and in my opinion really the best tasting protein bar that I've had but we have some questionable ingredients in the bill bar we have natural flavors Europe for at all and we also have mallet all now mallet all and your wrist at all are sugar alcohols that I don't love I do not like sugar alcohols the erector at all luckily is a very very small amount less than what's in a traditional sugar packet so I'm not as opposed to that but again I'm not 100% sold on the ingredients and 100% sold on the taste and the smart points the points are three to four for a bar and they literally taste like a candy bar so I keep built bar in my rotation but if I were to rate built bar based on these ingredients it would fall in the middle at about a five out of ten but 10% the foods that I love build bar falls right into that temperature another very popular bar in the WWE community and one that you can find at Costco is the pure protein bar now I used to eat these all the time like all the time before I discovered built bar this was kind of my go-to bar because these are about only five smart points so they're really really low in smart points but the ingredients are why these are really low so these bars have mallet all palm oil natural flavor and sucralose so lots of not good ingredients I don't love that there's sucralose I really try to stay away from that so these again are five points so they're good on the smart points but not so good on the ingredient so I would put these at about a four out of ten also at Costco you can find the Kirkland or the Costco brand of protein bar this is another thing I see a lot in the WWE community because of these smart points there are some ingredients in these Costco bars I don't love and those ingredients are your wrist at all and natural flavor now these have a little higher dose of your effort all which makes me love them a little bit less but these bars also are pretty good in smart points they're about five smart points apiece so I would give these about a five out of ten also for me I don't care for the taste and texture these are a lot texture wise like the quest bar so if you don't like the texture of the quest bars you probably won't like the texture of the Costco or the Kirkland brand protein bars also at Costco you can find the Robert Irvine Fit Crunch Bars I've actually never had these now I have been told that these are really really delicious but you guys the ingredients I was super disappointed when I flipped over and looked at being so the ingredients in these bars are palm oil sugar mallet all sorbitol and corn syrup so they have so many sugar and sugar alternatives it's crazy to me that's probably again why they taste so good they are loaded with sugar alcohols loaded with fake sugar I absolutely would stay away from these for me these are a 1 out of 10 just based on all of the fake sugar and sugar alcohols that are in these and they're about six smart points apiece next is the zone bar do you guys remember the Zone diet is that still a thing like do people still follow the Zone diet I hope that if they do they're not eating these bars because these zone bars have a lot about ingredients Mallett all palm oil natural flavors sugar and sucralose and in fact they have natural flavors twice so I don't know what - they're using natural is artificial to me but they have a laundry list of ingredients so one out of ten on the scale and a zone bar is going to cost you about six smart points so in my opinion not worth it what about the og the power bar the good old power bar nope the power bar contains cane juice which is basically cane sugar multo dextran n natural flavor so it has real sugar fake sugar and artificial flavors and again I can't get past the texture of the power bar it's very reminiscent of the Costco and the quest bar it's that same kind of texture the power bars are about 5 to 7 smart points so not terrible on the smart point but terrible on the ingredients making them about a 4 out of 10 now I don't have an oldie where I live but I know that a lot of you have all these and Aldi has a health food brand or so they deem a health food brand called fit and active everything from yogurt cheese all the things well they even have a fit and active protein bar so I dug into that protein bar a little bit oh my goodness you guys how incredibly disappointing in ingredients that a health brand of a grocery store has so let's go over these ingredients in these fit and active protein bars so these have my little palm oil natural flavor sucralose and dun dun dun carrageenan no way nohow carrageenan isn't taury and these are loaded with fake sugar one out of ten and there are five to seven smart points so not interested another kind of OG bar that I didn't even know was still around are the Gatorade bar stupid have you made eat those do you remember those the Gatorade brand of bars so these are shown all over commercials are used to be with athletes and great recovery after a workout you guys the ingredients in these bars are some of the worst in the Gatorade bars there is cane cane syrup palm oil vegetable oil corn syrup sugar natural and artificial flavors vegetable oil and caramel coloring and and just a huge list absolutely the worst ingredients of all the bars that I looked at zero out of ten if I could give them a zero out of ten and the smart points are not good they're eight to ten smart points eight to ten smart points for oil and sugar another bar I see all over the w w community are the fiber one protein bars I heard that these are delicious I'd not tried these they just don't fall in line with what I eat but I've heard that these are absolutely delicious but you guys a cautionary measure the ingredients the ingredients in these fiber one protein bars are going to be ingredients such as sugar palm oil melts at all soybean oil fructose which is sugar canola oil dextrose natural and artificial flavors so could the list again get any longer between the fiber one protein bars in Gatorade we've got about ninety nine ingredients and ninety nine ingredients that aren't good for you so I would stay away from these I know that they taste delicious but honestly if you're going to go with a delicious tasting bar you're honestly better off with a built bar over the fiber one protein bars and these bars range from about five to six smart points so they have a lot worse ingredients and they're higher in smart points than the built bar and you guys say they taste delicious but again if you're going for taste and smart points and ingredients the build bar is honestly a better option your beloved premier protein the protein shake that so many of you love on WW did you know that premier also has a protein bar now you guys know that I don't the premier protein shakes because I don't like the ingredient list it's a huge list of ingredients the protein bars in my opinion have that huge list of ingredients and those ingredients are things such as sugar palm oil natural and artificial flavors and sucralose so they've got real sugar fake sugar artificial flavors really similar to what's in the premier protein so again I don't know that I would reach for these bar and they are really high in point six to eight smart points so I would give these about a two out of 10 as far as ingredients in smart points go next up is one of my favorite granola brand and this is the purely Elizabeth I'm gonna be taste testing this bar at the end as well but she also makes a granola bar or a bar now these bars are pretty good in the purely Elizabeth bars you're going to find really good ingredients they're made with coconut oil and they're also made with coconut sugar so stellar stellar ingredients best in class as far as ingredients 10 out of 10 now these bars are pretty darn good and smart points as well they range between five and eight smart points depending on if you pick the granola based bar or the actual protein based bar I'm going to taste test the granola bar but you guys ingredients these are absolutely a 10 out of 10 I mentioned earlier to think thin bars so let's dig into the thief in a little bit and let's first talk about the ingredients because beefin is another popular protein bar that I see in the weight loss or WW community now the ingredients in the think thin that I don't love our ingredients such as maltitol which is terrible for your stomach canola oil and they also use natural flavors so again whenever in oil that is an expeller press or isn't avocado or extra-virgin olive oil you want to stay away from that they're GMO they're made with GMO crop just not good for you heavily heavily sprayed with pesticides so the think thin bars in my opinion are out the only thing they have going for them is their smart point value and they are about six mark points apiece so not bad but again you can have other bars for half of that smart points with a little bit better ingredient so I get the think thin a 5 out of 10 next up are to go raw bars I've actually talked about the go raw brand a few times and most of the girl raw products I haven't loved so I decided to pick up one of these bars to taste test with you guys so these are the go raw protein bars now these bars pretty darn good the only ingredient I don't love is natural flavors but they don't have any weird sugars or sugar alcohol so overall these are actually a good choice of a protein bar the smart points on these are going to be two to four smart points so they're very very low in fact one of the lowest in smart point value of the protein bars that I've shared with you I just don't know about the taste so we're gonna taste test best one at the end of the video as well but 10 out of 10 for ingredients in smart point next is the kind bar this is another question that I thought is this a clean bar I have also noticed when I watched Flav City Bobbi parish on Flav City on YouTube check him out he's amazing but he actually gets that question - what about kind bars kind bars are not a clean bar and they're not a Bobby approved bar if you watch Flav City and the reason for that is going to be the ingredients in a kind bar they're not just your nuts and seeds my friends you're gonna find ingredients in a kind bar such as palm oil sugar and natural flavor so definitely not in my opinion a great option for a go-to protein bar you have a lot better options that we'll talk about here in a little bit of these nut based bars and kind bar cost 7 to 8 smart points so they're very very high in smart points so based on ingredients in smart points I put these about a 3 out of 10 next is the go macro bar now these bars I have had these these are really really good and the only ingredient in these that I don't love is brown rice syrup now again it could be worse it could be sugar alcohols or cane sugar but I'm still not a huge fan of brown rice syrup because it's still sugar but the other thing about the go macro bars that I don't love are the smart points they're actually eight to ten smart points but I would give them a 9 out of 10 on the scale based on the fact that they only have one questionable ingredient and they actually taste really really good if you're willing to spend the smart boy next is the Laura bar now let me just tell you the Laura bar is the cleanest of the cleaner one of the cleanest bars that you can buy hands down it's literally like dates fruit and nuts that's it but ingredients 10 out of 10 smart points they are a little bit high they range from 8 to 9 smart points so they are a little bit high in points but if you want just a high-quality good option for a bar hey I'm Sam you should always go for the Larabar ten out of ten whatnot Bob's Red Mill Bob's Red Mill flowers and notes and all the things that Bob puts out on the market well Bob also has a protein bar now his protein bar is okay the ingredients I don't love are going to be simple a couple of ingredients tapioca syrup and natural flavors those are the two ingredients in the Bob's Red Mill bar that I don't absolutely love now I've also tried this bar it's really really delicious but it's seven SmartPoint so it doesn't have the best ingredients a couple questionable ones and it also is seven points so because of that I would put this kind of right in the middle at about a five out of ten next up are the garden of life bars now this is another company that puts out a protein powder called the Garden of Life organic protein powder now these bars really a great option I'm going to be taste testing this at the end as well so in the Garden of Life bar the only ingredient that is not the best is that there's cane sugar but that's actually in the chocolate which is pretty standard in most bars coated in chocolate all of the other ingredients are absolutely amazing now the smart points value for these bars are going to be five which is also freaking amazing so not only do you have best-in-class ingredients you will have a five smart point bar highly highly recommend this bar if you can get this in your area ten out of ten I am going to taste test this so let's see if the taste matches up to the ingredients in the smart point now this is a bar that I found at my local health food store I've never seen this before this is the Betty Lou's fruit bar so this reminds me of a Fig Newton and I was excited to see this because I love Fig Newtons I do not love the ingredients in Fig Newtons so I was hoping that miss Betty Lou would give us a little bit better ingredients but in these bars I found ingredients such as natural flavors brown rice syrup and safflower oil that was not expeller pressed so no go Betty Lou not a bar that I would reach for and they are about eight smart points for this traditional size bar if you get the bigger bar they have like a jumbo one it's about 15 points so I'm gonna go two out of 10 based on the ingredients and the smart points sorry Betty another bar I found next to Betty Lou where the zine bars and I had never seen these before they have quite a flavors of these at my natural food store so I would imagine this you're going to find at a health food store so the Zeen bar the ingredients in there that I don't love are going to be sugar tapioca syrup and brown rice syrup so did you hear that three three different sugars in the Xing bar hey why so much sugar and that makes the zing bar really Point heavy as well they're going to cost you seven to eight smart points no way and you know what if they just took out half of that sugar it would really reduce the smart points and make it a much better option for a bar so I'm gonna give the Xing bar three out of ten based on sugar and smart points now this is another bar that I was pretty excited to find it kind of goes hand in hand with the Larabar and I found this at my health food store this is called the raw ma so our aw like raw and then ma are this far perfect absolutely perfect ingredients very very reminiscent to the Larabar as far as ingredients goes just your nuts your seeds your fruit but unfortunately because of these ingredients similar to the Larabar these are going to be seven to eight smart points but if you are looking for a good for you real food whole food as good as it can get ten out of ten bar the Larabar or the rama hands down you just gotta suck up the seven eight smart queen next is the foodie bar foodie with one oh and this is another bar that I've never seen before until I found it at my health food store but foodie friends you guys have some ingredients I don't like and in your bar I found brown rice syrup palm oil and peanut oil so we are double dipping in the oils so this is going to elevate the smart points plus neither of these oils are healthy fats neither of them are expeller pressed and our oils that you should try to avoid so the foodie bars range six to eight smart points so between the double dose of oils the natural flavors the smart points three out of ten next up is the pink protein bar so we talked about the think thin bar so now let's talk about the think protein based bar just like the thin bar don't love the ingredients in the think protein bar you're gonna find melt at all which have sets your stomach natural flavors and sunflower oil that is not expeller press so just like the think thin bar I would steer clear of the think protein bar and the smart points on these bar are six smart points so I'm gonna go to out of ten based on smart point value in those ingredients next up is the core bar when I saw this bar I thought this one's gonna be a good one nope the core bar has xylitol which is a terrible fake sugar regular sugar and caramel coloring why why put caramel coloring in there the only reason anybody puts caramel color and anything is to give it a brown color why why does not give us it in its raw color for my friend so this bar is absolutely out and it's ten smart points you heard me right ten one out of ten I also spotted a meal replacement bars this was a big gigantic bar called the pro live bar now I knew this being a meal replacement bar but it was going to be really high in smart points but what I didn't know was some of the ingredients so in the pro live bar it has brown rice syrup so it only has one ingredient I don't love I love it better than cane sugar or sugar alcohol but you guys the smart points wait for it 15 to 17 smart points per bar now I don't think unless you are in desperate measures that you should be eating 15 to 17 points in a bar because you can have a lot of food and healthy real food for 15 to 17 smart points so I'm gonna go one out of ten even though it only has one questionable ingredients those smart points next up is the G - G bar and this is another one I've never heard of I found this at my local health food store and this bar ingredient wise has brown rice syrup again but also has sugar so it's double dipping again in the sweeteners which makes them six to eight smart points apiece that's a lot for a little bar so this is probably not a bar that I would purchase and based on the double dip of sugar and the smart points I would give it a four out of ten and lastly I ventured over to my refrigerated section and found two bars that I wanted to share with you the first bar I'm going to taste test at the end I'm really excited this is the I think it's pronounced Ojai or oh he it's oh I bar you guys the ingredients oh yeah fabulous and Phar you find this in the refrigerated section of your natural grocers store literally perfect ingredients I want to taste test it because I want to know if the taste lives up to the ingredients these bars are six to eight smart points so there are a little bit high end points and because of that without tasting it I would give it about a nine out of ten because the ingredients are amazing so stay tuned in just a minute for that taste test and the last bar that I want to talk about is another bar that I see all over the health weight loss ww community and that is the perfect bar this is also found in the refrigerated section so the perfect part is not 100% perfect the perfect bar contains sunflower oil which is not expeller pressed so an oil that I try to avoid other than that the ingredients are decent but we're really like gut punches you is in the smart points the perfect bar is going to cost you 11 yes 11 smart points so based on the smart points and the fact that it has that oil in there I would rate this probably a six out of ten I know that perfect Bart also makes a kid size bar but if it still has the sunflower oil that's not expeller pressed it still wouldn't be top-notch or a bar that I would reach for even though the smart points would be exponentially better so that is it my friends oh that was a list of protein bars we went through a lot and I have a feeling again this is gonna be a very long video but don't leave yet I'm going to taste test five of the protein bars that I shared with you right here on camera we're gonna talk about the taste the texture the points and whether I would continue to recommend these bars now these bars fell on the yes these are good bars good ingredients good smart point let's so I'm gonna taste test them so let's jump into that so we're gonna start our taste test off with the bar that I raved about the Ojai oaky bar we're gonna try this so this is the super green bar again this is the one that's found in the refrigerated section it has 270 calories really really good ingredients plant-based gluten-free grain free non-gmo let's try it so I'm a little nervous I'm wondering if it's green it is it's creaks what's not green but it has like a little bit of a green tinge to it can you guys see that looks really good though full of good stuff let's right oh wow hmm huh this is really delicious I really taste the nuts the sweetness from the dates mmm this is amazing oh my goodness YUM next up is the Garden of Life bar the other one I kind of raved about only five SmartPoint this is the s'mores Garden of Life bar it's organic non-gmo has 14 grams of fiber one gram of sugar and it's plant-based so let's try this let me show you what it looks like awesome look at that so there's the bar itself so it has a chocolate base and kind of that like nutty caramel coating okay so taste wise it's a little gritty a little sandy the actual like bar part not the chocolate part but the bar part it's a little grainy a little sandy I was trying to figure out what I could compare it to as far as like that another bar but I can't really think of a good comparison I mean it's good it doesn't really have a lot of aftertaste a very very small amount but I mean overall for the point value and the ingredients I it's it's pretty good I would probably repurchase this but I really love that Oh high bar but I would probably repurchase this as well so next up is the go raw bar so I told you guys I am NOT a huge fan of all the go raw products that I've tried in the past but this one is the pumpkin seed bar it just has five ingredients I love that organic non-gmo vegan dairy-free nut free soy free so what is in this bar is sprouted pumpkin seeds sprouted flax seeds dates raw agave nectar and salt so that's it so hopefully this bar is better than some of the go raw products that I've tried in the past because like I said I haven't loved them so here's what the bar looks like look at that it's tons and tons of nuts and seeds here for that so let's try this this one is huge this one's probably more points I had my husband pick these up for me since I can't really leave and I think he may have gotten the bigger one but regardless where we're looking at the ingredients okay way to go go rob this is actually pretty darn good sweetness comes from the dates then let's give it a nice crunch the only thing I don't love about it is the texture not the texture but it leaves kind of a slimy film on your tongue and I don't know what that comes from I mean it's not terrible but that would be my one criticism but this is actually really good so thumbs up on this one go raw next up is the epic bar so this is the epic bar rise and grind and this one literally just has chicken egg yolks and apple and it has 13 grams of protein so you can see it's a very like a meat bar so I'm excited to try this one I really like the epic other meat bars that I've tried so here it goes it smells really good I don't love it it's very dry it's very salty yeah it reminds me of beef jerky a lot but it's so dry and salty I just don't love it I think I like some of the other epic products that I've had I don't love this and I know that these are kind of expensive they're great ingredients great in smart coins but it's just not I don't love it lastly I'm going to try the purely Elizabeth chocolate and sea salt granola bar so these sound really really good three grams of protein six grams of sugar and non-gmo gluten-free vegan so let's pop one of these out and give this one a try my husband said that he had to buy a box of four that they didn't sell them individually so again I think he may have gotten the wrong bar I think I was more asked for the protein bar but that's okay we're gonna try this um this is what it looks like looks really really good actually so let's try it and see if we like it I do like their granola a lot and they generally have really really good ingredient so that's what it looks like so it's a very granola eat chocolate II I mean it looks really really good oh my goodness dee-licious mmm so good really great chocolate flavor little hint of salt cinnamon um yes please if you're looking for a granola bar absolutely absolutely pick up the purely Elizabeth this is amazing so that is it my friends for this protein bar review video holy moly did we have a lot of protein bars I'm glad that I was able to taste-test some of the best-in-class ones for you here at the end and thank you for sticking all the way through if you've made it to the end of this video because I already know it's gonna be a long one leave the heart emoji in the color of W W plan that you're doing so whether that be blue green purple leave that color heart emoji down in the description box let me know that you're my trooper who made it through all the way to the end I hope that I shared some really great information for you I am going to list out all of the protein bars that I reviewed in the description box below and kind of categorize them in best in class good you know so you don't have to go back and take notes throughout the entire video I'm gonna do that work for you down in the description box below so if you're new to my channel welcome 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Happy Wheels 8: Hunchback dad!
hi guys I'm back playing happy wheels again for a special episode I'm pressure and I'm going on this game I've definitely played this before and I need to grab on to something oh I met it to the finish yeah that's pure luck I despise this I despise this oh good for you son no work Oh what was that is that a mind son oh that was main person surprisingly made this um probably my favorite happy news Mac maker would have to be I am your husband I am your husband and he was probably making that account for his wife but spread talks I think that's what Dylan in the loop Oh dubs close my my my oh my god look where it is it's in my wheel diary oh my hahaha did you see his neck is all hunched good good that's how I like my kills haha no no sad jugs feeding nothing went off wait no I can move no oh gun it in an urn in the nerdy nerd Wow my son dad whoa oh did you did you shoot me up dammit dammit dammit dammit dammit Damon Damon Damon Damon burn through Wow look at that oh I've never done that before that's pretty cool so finally just randomly press forward and backward and get killed by Tomahawk Chop backflip it was it was very clean it was quite a good bedding actually though that's how I wouldn't want to be that's how I would want to make the head of dish I haven't been banned oh oh why'd you say damn it it's only a son whoa Oh Justine to me where you shoot the b-boy Oh got me freaked or God dang it can play some days in his place why am I Tobuscus no is not meant to be advertised it or anywhere oh goodness gracious me son [ __ ] for me baby ha Yolo actually no I can back up lots of other side of a baton I'm gonna quit now before I rage dawn of the dead level 7 cause this 109 we bump into him and you shoot him oh I hate this one oh it's what songs well I mean it then put a good amount of effort into it but I still don't like it oh no it's fine ah the ground is a good shot haha oh did you see that I don't even have my shotgun I don't even have my shot I've got my shotgun I've got my shotgun damn rich water supply Armand fragile sample riri evening dick slowly I mean suffocating 00 happy birthday don't care what's happening what's happening what is happening what happened glitch in the century what no I'm harmless I did not just so much spite the fact that I am bang whoa face gun whoa ultimate readjusting face gun this is kind of made rude oh damn I our Ark and you should take this level it's funny cuz I was Amiens balls and it hits head how does that work Howie it oh I gotta finish the level oh god I'm yay 50 seconds is the main menu got muscles Troy 27 minutes you should be able to finish this one fairly easily why did I chew I've done dish hi join pageant a main [ __ ] don't haven't done it oh my god on the dead level 1 I love this one is probably one of my favorite happy was maximum and a good it's good that it comes early up in the list when you just be experimenting with happy meals and you know most of the trick so you um be very good at it it's a very good experiment to level to play if you know what I mean it's not a newbie levels the opposite ah did you say that no but strike it's it's an easy level but it's a fun and it's an original and what it's not a demo no it is done running what's this guy doing oh you meant to grab a pond yeah Zed Zed damn it okay start Zed Zed oh no oh dang it which is this is odd but generator and a tendon do including until odontogenic daughter didn't do mutant isn't what are you trying it boy I assume this is gonna be odd oh I like her Santa Claus is coming to town come into town coming let's go huh help them santa claus is coming to tail coming into town come in to tackle this it really really really day all day hey where's taking me what no boom shaka lacka do it dang much me it should be it should be it should be it no I've got time for one more level don't under good what what seven Jane well that totally worked Oh assassin but the same there's an accession of your boo boo yah shop yeah thanks what key see you next time happy bills but a to thank you for the Creator happy wheels thanking from God everything I'm not really just yeah I am really just as sips as my god your scholarships not sure that I want to give Gibson back getting back in gray / on you Boston that's classic sips anyway thanks for watching see you next time
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I Built the Most TOXIC Run-Only Team…
toxic team in Madden history why the answer is the quad father now AJ Dylan by himself is a stud but he has a special ability called freight train quad father and for two AP you start the game with the freight train ability freight train increases the chance to break the next tackle attempt it works nine times out of ten on top of that you can add the ability persistent which makes it more difficult for your opponent to knock freight train off you can add tanks so that you break every single hit stick tackle you can add Bruiser for more powerful trucks and stiff arms and this by itself is incredibly toxic but the rest of this team makes it even worse number one there's a new card Mercedes Lewis big dog honestly didn't know people called them big dog but whatever the card goes pretty hard this is an insane blocking tight end he has 95 run block 94 pass block he's also an incredible tight end in his own right but he's basically a guard at tight end all of my wide receivers are massive tight ends or wide receivers who can and block like maniacs George Kittle Megatron and Delaney Walker at fullback I have the Nigerian Nightmare Krishna koye you guys have seen my videos you know he's an insane fullback and to make this run only team even more toxic I added big trust Lamar starts with the ability trust where he cannot fumble as a result of a tackle we also put Dexter Lawrence at tight end who is an incredibly big blocking tight end I don't know why he got a tight end card it's pretty awesome and we're not quite done yet my offensive line is fully loaded out with abilities Roger saffold has post-up dominant when engaged in double team blocks Creed Humphrey gets identifier completely free so I can see who my opponent is usuring and adjust accordingly will Shields has post up and secure protector Ryan ramchick has Edge protector this is just in case we do throw one or two passes Andrew Thomas has natural talent and secure protector the rest is on the quad father and Lamar Jackson I am absurdly excited to take this into a dead game but that's not all just a really top off the Run game only team my defense is consistent of players who at one point in their career were used as a running back Derrick Henry is obvious Micah Parsons has gotten a few handoffs Bo Jackson is obvious JJ Watts gotten some reps I think as a fullback William Perry's been a fullback same with John Randall Julius Peppers has gotten the ball Darrell Rivas played halfback before this isn't a defense video though by any means even our strategy item is the legendary pave the way for plus two run block plus two impact block plus four run block power and plus one run block finesse my goal is seven yards per carry three rushing touchdowns and 200 plus yards the quadfather would be round one pick one in my fantasy league and you know what he's got Keith Byers the next best halfback this ought to be fun actually this team is so toxic I'm gonna run command I'm gonna let him score I'm just gonna let him score on the first play in the game doesn't matter to me take it take it cause I'm marching down the field and I'm gonna score and I'm gonna get my two point conversion and he won't be able to stop it doesn't matter to me also I have it insanely exciting news and I need your guys advice this right here is my prize pick of the week now the reason I show you is the sponsor today's video is prize picks now you're looking at my pick here and you're wondering how I got Joe burrow at more than half a passing yard this is a really cool promotion that prizefix does every once in a while they offer a free slot now I'm no mathematician but I feel like Joe burrow should throw for more than half a passing yard so I feel really good right there and then my selection with Isaiah Pacheco he's averaged 67 rushing yards in the last five games so I feel like my odds are pretty good I can't tell you guys how excited I am to work at prize picks for the next entire year and to bring you some awesome awesome promotions just like this one and with that said there is a link in the top of the description to download prize picks and first time depositors you can get a deposit match up to a hundred dollars with promo code MMG when you download the app It'll ask you for a promo code just throw in MMG you can ride my picture with me or make your own it's totally up to you I'm really hoping we can get a w on this first pick let me know what you guys think and enjoy the rest of the video first intense so the quad father in order to lose freight train I'd have to get tackled for loss two separate times his ability to do that it just won't be very high I say as I get tackled for a loss I was just unlucky though that ain't gonna happen twice just does it doesn't matter I mean congratulations that was pretty good it won't happen twice as I say that oh my God are we gonna go house are we gonna go house go I can't catch me I really started this video with a negative one-yard loss followed up by the same play for an 80 yard game but my yards per carry is on par right now considering we have 40 and a half yards per carry and like I said he lost the game the minute he didn't go for two he lost the game [Laughter] I tell you what man I'm a fortune teller oh that's so messed up gun type Flex PA post shot oh Darren Henry free safety did not pick that one off he is struggling right now though oh good ball Derrick Henry with a big hit I hope he goes for that again I'm gonna alert this oh [ __ ] I'm an idiot ooh bubble catch him though oh Bo you didn't get that that was my fault I took Derek Henry out of that zone it just means more rushing yards for the quad father he can't win he literally has already lost he keeps kicking Pats I do have Wildcat too I'm gonna follow this I'm gonna go Wildcat power we're gonna we're gonna follow the boy here tough tough the quadfather has now lost his ability I did get tfl twice like it's not Invincible but to get it back he just has to play five offensive Downs he doesn't have to do anything special let's go to Lamar we still got Lamar with big Trust Walker's wide open I will take a pass I'm not above taking a wide open pass a nice stiff arm as well all right let's hand this ball off third and six that o-line lighting up but he is there bottled that up fourth and five nice play nice lurk I actually gotta lock in wait a minute what a loser he really likes his play P.A post shot I don't mind that pass oh my God maybe I do that was a laser beam he's gonna run this with Buyers oh he doesn't he gets that oh my God McPherson well onside kick picked up by Patterson been a little cocky got me in some trouble here so so let's actually lock in I'm gonna try a hat back Wham got big dog coming over for the block and that got blown up wow we're not going anywhere right now can hit the boy kiddle nice catch gotta get back to the Run game though I can't be passing the ball I'm not gonna feel good about this if I do it's the most toxic run team to run a stretch out to the right side I'm loving those blocks gentlemen I really could have followed my block I didn't have to light that guy up like that but it was pretty fun to do so beautiful blocks beautiful broken tackles the quad father for another six down two possessions a little ugly right now but this is a high score match right now that's 30 points scored in the first quarter I'm just gonna go left side again he's there he got that one she's gonna go right up the middle this time a little Zone Run play oh he's on me we broke the tackle tough that one was tough gotta take off with big trust can't fumble let's go first eagle has a big conversion right there he dropped everybody back all right we're gonna run left side here let's do it he sees it there's just nothing he could that's my fault I gotta dive there got a little greedy let's see if he predicts correctly nah he just got stood up takes down the big boys I am gonna take my Pat here to make this a seven point game and then if I can score again without him scoring I'll go for the two point to make it 23-22 like I said I think him not going for two that first time around is actually it's actually gonna be a big mistake in this game well we know what play he likes dude on Blitzen seven Somebody's gotta get home there we go baby I don't think he can throw Parham again what a ball and he caught it oh my God I can't believe he caught that all right he's gonna do the same thing let's get to the QB this time there we go how do you catch that version I don't catch that easy pick unlucky butts we do take Cunningham down here it is third and 21. let's see what he elects to do he's Gotta Throw quick definitely doesn't have the time he'd like oh nice ball and he does get the first nice play see if he does it again oh I'm there this time hey another sack Randall Cunningham goes down once again he is just full speed I'm on it again let's go third and 26. I almost want to call a timeout here let's see if you choose clock go right over the middle yes sir not again we got Bo Jackson on the return team like I said it's the most toxic run team that's a huge huge stop right there especially because I get ball at half I I retained three timeouts and there's 23 seconds left on this clock let's see if the quad father can get all the way down there I mean it's pretty questionable to go with a run play here just clock management wise but this is my run team you know oh I could hit Dexter Lawrence oh my God let's go dude let's just get a field goal out of this get a field goal out of this oh that's a questionable ball [ __ ] I bumped with a bunch of people and the ball didn't go where I needed it he's gonna answer kick again oh he's gonna touch it before you beautiful take our penalty and quadfather does not have far to go just go right at him get the [ __ ] off of me I was lucky to get two yards there though he kind of blew that up he does the same thing what a throw Lamar you know you're getting taken out and you too the quad father there's a big one right there and you know what I got two interceptions right now that's what I get for throwing the ball with the toxic run team let's try and get this left Edge see if the quad father's built for it oh he's there we do break a tackle we don't break the second one that's good defense he doesn't have his X Factor anymore Lamar still has his of course I'll take that quadfather's still a beast he he doesn't need the X Factor he just likes having it third and five I'm gonna run this close to the right oh oh nice stiff arm it's Fourth and two I'm gonna run right at him it's the Run only team I gotta believe right I got him let's go First and Ten huge play no huddle run play after no huddle Run play we're gonna cut this one up another huge stick farm a Hunter 17 rushes 113 yards last time and I'm gonna try it again got big dog coming over I know this is a good play oh that's right you'd love to have the X Factor I got the X Factor right there he breaks that for sure right Adam come on we blow one up we're down to the four we can't get stood up I didn't even consider read option I think this is a keeper with Lamar no let's see how it looks it's a keeper with Lamar oh I got lit up I think the keeper was the right call I'm gonna pass it George Kittle's too open to pass up I'm so sorry I know it's the Run team but when you run the ball that well it sets up the pass this is a critical moment here I'm going for two I said I would so I'm gonna do it I was gonna say I'm gonna try and make this look like a stretch as much as I can I'm just gonna Dive Right at him but Dive Right at him I'm gonna trust the boys up front let's go AJ oh my God part the Red Sea does it get any easier it's a one point lead that may literally be the first time he's ran in the football one rush for negative one yards play action maybe no he literally ran the same play and also got negative one yards again I'm confused on the strategy here I'm not gonna lie maybe he's gonna chew clock and then yeah he is he's chewing clock he's gonna try and kick a field goal with no time left mine oh nice high ball it was a good high ball that is a lucky ass unbelievable catch all right just a little handoff there's Troy Anderson at least slowed him down we have the two minute warning on our side it's third and seven yeah this could be tough if we don't get if we don't get some crucial stops this will be tough let him score might be my best odds I don't know if I can stop him with my run game defense nice defense dude he is getting lit up back there he is not in field goal range either oh oh my God bow almost just ended the game just gonna roll out I don't think he's got anything [Music] [ __ ] off of me let's go clock I wasn't trying to be toxic I just was running the ball Micah ends it oh that's not true that's not true don't say that I shouldn't say that I mean this is the dominant Run game team I expect to get a first down here a few moments later it's Fourth and nine I feel like a punt is the choice here it's no time out see I haven't won the game I shouldn't say that I don't really know how to punt the football because I just don't ever do it but I'm really hoping that's a punt dot right there because I need it right now holy [ __ ] that might have been a absolute dot dot down at the four does he really run his play action play here he really does away let's go oh my God he actually shut the Xbox off dude I blitzed my far right corner on accident there too he literally could have thrown anywhere on the right side and had a touchdown quadfather went off I mean there's no question he went off my run scheme just isn't that good like if you have a good run scheme or you're like a better Madden player than me which is probably a lot of you you could do about a billion times more than what I just did and we still went off oh what a w dude all right boys it's the most toxic Run game team if you see this in online uh I'm sorry you've probably already seen it yeah I didn't invent this I love you guys thanks so Elijah's eyes I'll see you in the next one peace [Music]
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Summit 2022: Automatic configuration of mediated devices / vGPUs in KubeVirt
time so thank everyone to be uh in this presentation i'm you know i'm pleased to introduce logic he's going to present this work about declarativity vgpus or mdev configuration in cooper and i'm looking forward to hear the presentation thank you vlad thank you um and thank you everyone for joining i am i really plan to be um this to be a short session rather mostly to report on the progress we've made towards providing a better usability for virtual gpus and kubert in general but before we um uh jump into the new changes we've made i wanted to take a step back and kind of recap on the uh already existing support for host devices and the immediate device assignment in in kubert simply because uh this new work builds on top of that um so the previous iteration was about us trying to uh facilitate the work of the administrator that they needed to do to make pci devices and the vgpus to become available in the cluster and basically instead of letting the administrator deploy a dedicated device plug-in for every device on every node uh we've introduced an api that with this api that mr can simply um at least the permitted devices in the cluster uh with the corresponding resource name and um kubert will then discover these devices on nodes and we'll start the device plug-in for uh for for this resource and of course this configuration can be done outside of uh keyboard completely um anyone who is interested in running their own device plug-in and taking care of the allocation um in their device plug-in all the administrator needs to do in this case is just to list the device and indicate that this resource is being provided by a res by an external device plugin and uh in that case kubrick will just permit the device uh to be used in the cluster so virtual machines can uh still um request this device but all the handling will be will be done by an external device plugin and of course the removal of any entry uh in that api will lead uh keyboard to disable um the relevant device plugin and um yeah and that's it um so um here we can see an example of uh virtual machine instance um requesting uh an existing resource and uh for example on the left side the virtual machine instance is requesting two of these devices and it will land on the node where these devices are being advertised um so now let's talk a little bit uh about uh v gpus and uh when it comes to vgp virtual gpus there are all kinds of different solutions out there and here in this presentation we'll focus only on those that are being represented by mediated devices so to create a virtual gpu um a relevant driver needs to be installed on the on the host and some vendors they already have their drivers part of the kernel and so it makes it very easy to consume for example in the case of nvidia there's a need to install the driver separately and also the creation of a virtual gpus is requires a license um but generally speaking um every gpu card that supports virtual gpus can be partitioned differently and depending on the driver each of these partitions are being presented as different types and these types are pre-created by the by the driver and so um these types they are different in um they're different between each other and they're different in the frame buffer size their different resolution that they provide and they're pro different in the in the density for example how many virtual gpus can run on one physical gpu and they serve completely different use cases i just listed a few but there are many more um yeah so um it's it's really up to the administrator to to decide which types will become available in the cluster what exactly the cluster needs depending on the density or perhaps a use case whether it serves virtual gpus or like training models or anything so but also on the other hand the creation of these virtuous gpus um in general it's it's pretty straightforward but the problem becomes uh when you have a node with the um multiple cards on it which may differ there can be different cards on the on that node that serves uh different types of gpus and there can be of course multiple nodes that serves multiple cards and this is the problem that the kubert is starting to solve with the um with the introduced newly introduced mediated devices configuration api so with this api all the administrator needs to do is to list the desired types that you would want to become available in the cluster and um these devices they have these types they have a priority in listing so the first one will have a higher priority uh for configuration than than the one listed below and this configuration can be expanded to um to specific nodes so for example we can override the default configuration with a specific configuration per node or pair group of nodes depending on the labeling of the of these nodes um sorry one thing is that once this configuration is applied keyboard will try to configure these devices these types and nodes and the next slide will actually talk about how this is working so here we have a configuration that um that the administrator has provided um and it has a mix of um different uh types of that belongs to different types that belongs to different cards um sorry about this and and what um what kubrick will do in this case is that for example on node number one um it will create um ring buffer and the string buffer will be filled with the with the intersection of the desired devices that has been listed by the administrator and what is actually possible to configure on that on these cards that are available in the node um so for example in for tesla t1 t4 there's a there's a list of different types that it supports and i just listed a few but in general it can support up to 17 different types and uh the intersection here will show us that there are three types that can be configured here but there are four cards and so um in that case we'll just iterate over the the ring buffer and we'll will configure each card with a single type and in that case uh you can see that the importance uh of of the order uh uh takes place here and the one of the cards will be configured with the nvidia 230 type twice um and on the other hand uh on note 2 we have two different types of cards that support different types so for tesla view 100 we would have the desired types configured and for tesla t4 we can configure three types but only the first two will be configured depending on the on the priority of these cards um so i have a small presentation a small demo that i compiled um i i didn't have a lot of nodes and i don't have a lot of cards um on them so it's just one node with one card but yeah i just want to present a general process of how the administrator would configure the these immediate devices and then um at least them for kubrick to discover them and start device plugin for them and then how um a virtual machine can request to consume one of these devices uh so like i said there is only one node uh that we have uh by the way i will list the link to this um to this uh demo afterwards if the font is too small so there is only one card uh i will show you that there is a absolutely no mediated devices configured on that node yeah like like i said there are no immediate devices configured we'll configure one of the types it doesn't really matter just uh for for the sake of the demonstration we'll configure type 222. and there are 16 instances of this type available on that node we will update the kubert cr to request to request this type to be created so here we are requesting um to create nvidia 222 type and we will also permit the use of this type in the cluster these two are this to correlate it's just sometimes it's easier to use it by the shirt name but it's also possible to to use here uh the full name grid t4 1b as well um so we asked to create this immediate device and we will start the device we expect kuber to start to discover it and start the device plug-in once this type is created and we'll see now that mediated devices are being created so there are 16 instances of that type has been created and we'll see the availability of of this type dropped to zero because there are no more there are no more instances of the type that we can create and then we'll see that the keyboard starts the device plug-in for uh for this discover device so here in the allocatable section we see that there are 16 instances of that type available and we can see that it's actually cuber that started this device plugin um yeah we can see from the log that he discovered that device insert the device plugin for it so now we can request now we can start a virtual machine that requests this type so here we're requesting this grade the t41b and the this will this virtual machine will start and run will connect to its console but uh during this presentation i didn't have pci utils installed so i'm installing it here but will save some time and fast forward to when it's installed all right now it's installed and we can see we can use a lspci to see that the instance of this card the instance of the t4 card is being present on the node and this is actually what we want we want to see um [Music] virtual virtual gpu present in that assigned to that virtual machine um so here we saw a process where we configured the immediate devices and then we advertised them to to convert to consume and then the virtual machine requested this device and now we'll delete the virtual machine and do the opposite we'll remove uh these media devices and we'll remove the uh this device this resource from being permitted in the cluster and the expectation is that um kubert will remove all all of these 16 instances of the of these mediated devices and we'll stop a device plug-in for it uh so we'll update uh keyboard cr again and we'll remove all of this configuration and we expect to see immediate devices being removed so no no mediated devices here and the availability goes back to 16 because now we can again manually configure 16 instances of that type and then we'll see that the device plugin has been act deactivated so in the allocatable section we can see that there are zero devices um available and we can see that the kubert does did that by looking at the log again yeah so this is the entry that uh shows that devices uh this device plugin has been uh disabled uh so all in all this is uh everything i have to show you and uh if there are any questions i'll be happy to answer so thank you vladimir awesome presentation very cool um this uh question here so andre well let me see so andrew is asking can we have one gpu like nvidia t4 is licensed in different size uh you know four you know slides with one giga uh i think four with two and one with four something like that so specifically for uh for this t4 card that we can configure only one type of vgpu per card and um yeah we can use different types each type represent a different frame buffer um but yeah it's only one type per card and now so he's asking if we can change the slice partition dynamically yes so basically updating kyber cr will lead to the deactivation so we will remove all the all of these mediated devices and uh we'll configure something else that has been requested um ash is also uh asking a question here so i'm going to read okay yeah i he has so i have a clarifying question here can you specify multiple potential types that a vm can request in priority order so that if the ideal type is unavailable it will be scheduled on the next available and if it cannot be scheduled to do it to a resource type be unavailable can you just have it run on cpu i i think is me about the um the desktop um i'm not entirely sure how to answer that um in general when we are requesting a resource on the via virtual machine instance this has to be met so we will not schedule a virtual machine if uh we cannot meet uh all the requirements this is just how kubernetes works um so i don't i'm not entirely sure yeah so actually you can you can just uh email me if you would like do you wanna ask do you wanna talk uh speak or i can enable you if it doesn't if it's answered okay right let's wait okay okay so i also have a question it's uh you know related to you you mentioned that you cannot the drivers must be installed already so you you need you you know to do all the configuration i'm thinking that if you have already know the type the you know the specifically you know it's t4 it's you know all the the type of the the the gpu also the vendor it's nvidia maybe is it possible to have some rendering configuration that can be you know auto configured in the node in general it's possible so um for example here in cubeworth we um this is a open source so we can have the drivers pre-installed and the um but we're speaking about uh products like for example openshift and then um nvidia has a openshift operator uh openshift gpu operator and this gpu operator provides vendor-specific drivers and it will deploy it on every node um where this is needed so this is currently in works um but this is the goal that we are trying to achieve i don't know if it sounds good oh yeah it makes sense it should be something external something the nvidia has operator that will configure the nodes yeah yeah in cooperative we just want to be generic we want to be open to to every vendor i i use nvidia because this is the hardware that they have but it surely works with the with intel and yeah any vendor that uses virtual gpus should work nice and the last questions here so andre is also saying that can we collaborate he has like a more than well he has 40 000 you know t4 gpus that can be tested yeah i mean here you're already in our kubert community meetings so absolutely okay so thank you very much vladimir for the presentation was very good and we will thank you thank you
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Shiny Virizion on Pokemon White2! Live Capture! (~6000 SR's!)
professor pint o here and as you can see on the beautiful sky mean that is a shiny verizon oh my god I like I've been watching all these like videos catches and shiny verizon and I've been waiting and so hoping that I would get it oh my god so I I can't believe this this is like super exciting oh my god I was I like screamed and I like oh it was just yeah I was like oh my god I can't believe she finally came uh so beautiful so incredibly beautiful a might wonder it like be wondering i'm actually using a buffy the rocky helmet because it worked so well last time i'm actually using the rocky helmet to like we're down her hip pointer because i thought that that would be like a good way of doing it I uh oh my god I just and she's got giga drain which is annoying but oh my god I like I can't believe this like she finally came a little over 6,000 account like soft reset sorry I encounters that encounters yeah like I just as I was I was just saying today like I'd really like to kind of move on in this game a bit and just oh I like really need to focus here I don't want anything bad to happen I don't want it takes out the hottest I already took me laugh and off so yeah we're just gonna keep going oh she's gonna be annoying little jerk to catch isn't she I'm so afraid to hit her with anything like I soon retaliate wooden pillar um sacred sword shouldn't I got okay that was like more than enough damage to make me happy forever okay yeah that's That's Gary damage okay I know she's only like I'm just as I'm I get so scared when I am catching me cool so this time see this pic does not have the rocky helmet on and we're just gonna go ahead and try our best to hypnosis you just hypnosis the heck out of this oh my god oh god I don't know how many like Giga drains or anything it has um I hope I hope Giga drains not five cuz that would suck yeah I didn't go get healed balls or anything for ultra balls is what I'm gonna try to capture in the guy could really use a critical capture right now I'll be honest oh my god that shook so many times oh she stayed sleep at least we're just gonna go straight for the ultra balls I mean this is really great oh my god oh my god i have no dust balls even though i'm doing it at night um I couldn't buy them again just cuz I'm just like going through the game really quickly I'm not like I don't even have somebody fly on me then I made a guy somebody would fly like in the party at all oh my god it woke up Oh God like this is just so stressful I do have a master ball so if it's like this is why I don't want to like like heard it a lot a lot because what would happen Oh what would happen if it used struggle like I don't want it to if you use a struggle let's just say I am immediately good to be bastard balling it so because this is one this is the reason why I started all this is I want all wanted that pink dear I have wanted her since I first saw her I think she's amazing everything about her is so beautiful and I can't wait to actually use her in the gameplay I just oh my god can wait to get all the Chinese in this game all the shiny oh this is just exciting so exciting like I'm kind of like oh my god if this side of him like it's probably good that this isn't like live or something because like you know then it's like easier okay so she is healed herself all the way back up with her giga drain I am going to use a hyper potion on he just a gear as I don't want it to die and I saw so many good strategies for like catching things like this but oh it's starting to use helping hand I just can use hypnosis again like I'm really scared like I know I could switch into give a lien like if it gets too high and I could hit it maybe one more time with sacred sword the benefit is capable ian is actually a good option to keep this so sorry i tilted my game boy died 10 big you stay asleep you snore not even shake come on come on come on come on I can't believe she's pink like it looks so pretty I'm hoping that my cameras picking up how incredibly pretty this book 1 is 0 and she's nice cake adrene again oh my god this is a hard one to catch this is definitely a hard one to catch hey don't think I I just feel like I wasn't prepared for any of these darn dear okay let's hope that she stays asleep I'm gonna I know she has to like really high health so probably won't work if I throw a Pokeball or ultra balls oh my god okay cuz she's still asleep I'm going to switch back into a cabal Ian oh my gosh this is crazy no I think it's even more stressful than rebellion because I know how much I want it oh my god i am really really hoping ok so you sacred sword ok that's good she uses giga drain oh can I use another sacred sword I am too scared too scared she's probably going to use another giga drain oh my god okay okay well she didn't use another giga drain so let's try to hypnosis her again come on hypnosis I failed well no helping hand failed hmm sorry drop my camera okay that is funny there's gonna be like a little a little bit of the video camera goes down come on oh my gosh okay it's okay okay we're gonna get lucky we're gonna get lucky with these folks with these ultra balls we are we're not gonna have to use master ball let's think positive oh my god oh my god don't wake up stop waking up stop using a good dream that's annoying and I knew it had all these moves too but i really like i just don't have a good I don't have a good team for doing this oh stop avoiding sleep hello stuff of winning sweet for you there we go Ok Go Bag Ultra Ball oh my god we need a critical capture we need something come on shake ones or done no shake it all shake it all come on oh please oh please you know you want to join me beautiful beautiful flower three oh my god really I knew it wasn't gonna I knew it wasn't gonna do okay my video is gonna die okay that was a cut because my camera can only record 10 minutes so and the encounter was already longer than 10 met so i used an ultra ball oh my god Oh stay to sleep oh my god come on oh my god she woke up okay I need to heal my Pig oh it is so nerve-racking not quite a nerve-wracking is rebellion because I feel like I'm a little bit more prepared this time but still nerve-racking okay so no let's try to put her to sleep again she's using a lot of secrets or words there oh my god there she goes ah come on put her to sleep okay we're good we're good guy sure yeah sweet at this oh my god did you try he'll just keep going with the altar wells I'm okay catching it in alger well I know a lot of people have caught it in heel ball because it would have looked really good in the heel ball but you know ultra moes okay ultra balls what I came for paired with ultra ball will work yeah one oh my god please please go oh please do you want to oh my god oh my god please I'm so glad she's being a sleep spell totally a girl i think i want to call our carnation I just hope I don't Oh exporter oh my god yeah I want to call her carnation I just hope I don't spell it wrong oh my god okay verizon's Dada was added to pokédex Oh legends say this Pokemon confounded poets with its swift movements it's the grassland pokemon on my white too oh my god she came guys my pink beautiful totally naming it carnation just have to get a thing here oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god I can't wait to save our nation was sent us somebody's pc and she's gone guys I can finally say if I can finally save oh my god oh my god oh my god ok I'm going to check here chasing pixels oh she's not online but I wish she was cuz i totally want to show her the nature um can I go into this Pokemon places like something good I don't know if something's gonna happen if I go that way like I think I may be able to get to the Pokemon Center I men end up having to cut the video oh yeah ok I'm gonna cut the video i have to do some story mode ok so i'm back and here we go let's go down to her there she is she has a docile nature her ability is justified oh my god she's so beautiful we are gonna go ahead and move her straight into our party we will go ahead and get rid of I don't care who and while we are here we are going to put somebody with fly in our party so that for our next Pokemon we can you know have a little bit more of a little bit more stop I don't know what I'm saying I am just so happy I am so happy that I have Mike Balian and I have my carnation verizon will just look at her one more time right here so there she is there she is oh wow oh thank you so much for watching everyone I know it was wrong video but but there you go there's like both of them are here they're all my team and I'm actually gonna play this game for a while and level them up and just have fun with it until I get to go after at Arak Ian I believe is his name because he is totally the one I'm going for next all right thank you so much everyone and may all your Pokemon shot
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Persona 3 Reload Part 32 - Saving the World [PS5 Gameplay]
wish for fuka I uh I wished for a great year what is up guys we are back with some more Persona 3 reload and we got 1 month till nck appears so we're about to power it through January and uh put some ads I know it sounds boring but that's what I really want that's what I wished for as well we all wish for the same thing however I'm not praying for divine help there's nothing to worry about I have the utmost certainty that we can do this yeah I know we can we should get [Music] going Hello I'm called it seems that a I thought it prudent well then I [Music] it has been a while since we attended class the teachers and our classmates seem to be doing well by the way did you notice that Jun pesan was missing I saw him head for the rooftop before afternoon classes started perhaps he decided to skip the first day of the semester okay she was just here everybody wants us to go to the rooftop now though oh sorry I don't really have a reason to be up here I just sort of felt like it they just want to see here as well I guess I just felt the urge myself maybe we've been through so much together that our wavelengths are in syn that's just your imagination if I'm on the same wavelength as June I'd better change the channel anyhow it's so nice today isn't it the wind's a little chilly but the fresh Breeze feels great looking from here the view ain't that bad it's familiar scenery but I guess that's why it's so calming the end almost doesn't feel real people have been passing out and disappearing out of nowhere lately huh they've been talking about a lot of Shadow related incidents on the news too mitsuru Senpai said it's because there are too many Shadow victims the memory revision can't keep up I don't really get it this is all cuz of Nicks huh feels like the world's hit rock bottom there's even weird Colts popping up I guess this won't be one of those oh it was just a dream moment we'll do whatever we can no regrets I'm not going to try and act cool and say things like I want to protect everyone but I couldn't handle it if the time we spent together disappeared yep in fact the tales of the amazing battles I survived should be handed down through every generation forever Look Who's Talking weren't you the one who was sulking and giving us a hard time well that was the passion of my youth you know I've matured since you think so too right dude that's right I'm a man with a plan you're not going to want to miss this mhm looking forward to it I'm not one to talk though I got stuck in my own head and acted out too I wonder if I've grown since then probably not I mean it used to be just the three of us right if you'd asked me back then I never would have guessed it'd come to this we've all been through so much this year well yeah or last year side friendship is way stronger Now isn't it don't say that with such a straight face you're embarrassing me but I guess it hasn't been too bad we've gotten this far together so let's see it through to the end yeah let's send them packing and those two guys from stga haven't made a move but you know they got to be PL something we got to take care of them too let's show them what C's two F's Trio now that I got you guys I feel way more punted oh I just remembered June you never gave me back that CD in fact you never return anything you borrow what oh yeah that do you have to bring it up now I guess he'll give it back after we save the [Music] world know what this means or at least I was expected something to happen marvelous okay y'all so made it to the next floor area and uh it looks pretty clean out here not going to lie since there's multiple gatekeeper types up ahead we'll need to feat them all uh that's the usual yeah let's go yes I can sense everyone's strength and resolve as we head into the final battle okay so we pretty much rise each floor Rank and that's how we get our rank up for this uh for this social link at least that's what it seems like keep up the and then as usual I typically will show you guys like how the floor looks and then I'll skip the rest you understand everything that's going on right a lot going on in here you want to follow us see what the enem is looking like let's start preparing the analysis what's the plan here I'll show you plans to check what weaknesses y'all got oh we might be too strong we might we might destroy yall before that Now's the Time F good job everyone a victory well earned it's a treas hey there's a treasure diamonds are forever nothing there dang I really don't want to go this way a shadow what will you do I feel like I didn't see much oh I guess I didn't go down this pathway oh cuz that's why it doesn't look like it'd be a part for me to run up to okay that's interesting so I can't just look for the staircase like how I have been for all those other previous floors oh there's a treasure chest o that's a powerful Shadow over there this place is white [Music] the enemy looks tough we're on your side stay where you [Music] are all enemies defeated good work out [Music] there [Music] some of these cards look new as hell but uh we'll get that one I got to look at what that is that's a good passive I think I'd want to put on someone Soul shift dang okay well I don't want the ice move so I'll get rid of that oh you get spell master too oh that's going to be clutch clutch as hell okay I got to start using lowkey more now then let's get back to work oh that's a single n we don't we don't want to mess with that wow I [Music] missed [Music] um can you hear me good job taking down the gatekeeper as we get closer to the top I keep thinking about a lot of things I wonder if this is how Heroes feel right before the season finale uh yeah maybe oh in that sense it's quite an experience isn't it I never expected my Daydreams to become reality you know Heroes aren't strong because they never lose they're strong because they never give up that's what I think at least and you're wrong they're Heroes cuz they're strong as [ __ ] I can sense everyone's strength and resolve as we head into the final battle they're going to see the show like rank up to like three uh so oh four actually so I ended up doing like two of like the floor fights uh and I didn't display it and I slowly but surely realize that as we complete these four gatee Keepers uh that's when we get these rank UPS so it's not as we progress each floors as you progress past each floor boss according to fuka there's still a lot of gate before we reach the top but we'll make it for sure and I'm ready to go anytime good to know good to know [Applause] all right now we can proceed let's keep going we're coming up on the 250 floor we've come quite a long way it hasn't even been a full year since most of you joined C's you've all done wonderfully I can't thank you enough for up with everything despite what you've had to go through uh Ramen on you what Ramen why is something so simple you could always no you're absolutely right we've been fighting this whole time to return to a normal life after all those that we've lost are with us now in spirit we will win everyone's future is in our hands I can sense everyone's strength and resolve as we head into the final battle and guys I'm like so close to getting to like the true ending but I don't think I'll be able to max out all the Social Links in like 10 days there's still five left let's stay sharp hey that's my line what's wrong corron is there something you want to tell us all righty just I said no I feel a strong sense of urgency from Karu seems like he's encouraging this you get a treat after for this all right Mar appears even more motivated now I can sense everyone's strength blah blah blah yep rank up rank up these fights they're like not too difficult at all um they're actually pretty quick but I don't want to waste the video doing all these fights um especially for those that kind of want to know what the fights are themselves but I'm just here for the story content honestly but I will say for this fight I just did you notice how my team's SP is really low that's because the enemies they have the move that steals 200 SP so just keep that in mind when you make it de Floy 246 good work with that fight we should be getting close to the finish line now you fought your fair share battles at this point anytime you're in a slump just remember all the blood sweat you put into this I have a sweat that much now true you always seem to keep your cool but we all know how much work you put in yeah I putting in work though not me anyway bottom line is I don't want to have any regrets I'll do my job the best of my ability so you can keep it up to uh we got three more fights and then there's like nine floors left until the next border floor I believe they said or it might just be the top all right I know this goes without saying but let's make sure we win this okay it's just we have so many great memories together and we should keep making more too I'm sorry I'm just being weird saying all this stuff out of nowhere huh yeah hella weird but she's not really like the type to do that so well I guess I am this way more when I'm with you a snap a snap anyway I won't give up until the very end actually no I won't let there be an end so here's to make your more memories leader thanks [ __ ] and I think on the next floor it's like backto back fights too this is where the real battle begins is it that's all that was for magic Sense 3 and then I got some pretty cool personas too might as well just show you guys now uh you guys already know parvani is my my setup for like all the resistances attack up Etc uh but I got Alice now in the squad and then this dude looks looks kind of cool OHSO but yeah he's like a physical physical attacker um I probably should start getting his skill on someone else though for raising the whole party's attack [Music] powerful enemy spotted please be careful okay so 254 is like the last boss or gatekeeper uh fight I guess so just keep that in mind guys yes excuse me good job everyone now there's only one more left you're very close to be honest I was a little worried I thought my desire for the ones close to me to avoid pain may result in my inability to fight however the opposite seems to be the case I feel stronger motivation to fight I feel a stronger motivation to fight than before why can't they add like more like more than before that's called courage I see oh so this is courage I suppose everyone has felt this all this time yeah a little bit I will Embrace this new feel and continue to fight alongside everyone okay robot that's how you know we doing something good when a robot starts having emotions well stay safe and good luck and remember I am always ready at a moment's notice yeah but I don't want to use you what's waiting for us up ahead y Mama honestly I'm a little scared to find out okay well it's a little too late we already here let's check it out oh it's another fight wait I thought the last one was the last fight please be careful they said there were there was a backto back fight they didn't I don't think they mentioned there was another one oh see yeah they're kind of thrown off the third battle this is the last one after this one then we'll officially be done with all the floors my SP is low are but that's fine I'll show you guys uh yeah what happens after this fight so this fight was like a big pushover it was easy as hell had of pretty much just killed him in like 30 to 45 seconds gatekeeper signal just went down we did it that was the last one now just the real battle yes yes you're right we're almost at our goal but now that The Gatekeepers are out of the way our path is clear I sense an area with no outer wall a little higher up that's probably the place riun was talking about let's go all of us together okay this one's maxed out now I am thou Thou Art I the bond thou Hast nurtured has finally matured the innermost power of the Jud Arana have been set free we now bestow upon the the ultimate form of the Judgment within thyself hurry [Music] up we can now fuse Messiah the Savior okay whatever that uh looks like I can't remember if I summon Messiah like other versions or not I have my own way of fighting you just now realized like towards the end of the game I did that fight just for a butler suit is that one of those doors again layout of this floor doesn't change door Lo onae yeah yeah yeah so I can always come back and get some cool stuff there I guess let's go check out this next floor yes I sense an open area with no walls few floors up the way to the promis place that's where we're supposed to go on January 31st we've made it this far I have faith in you matter what's waiting for us ahead you won't we won't lose time to put all this on the line This is the fight to end them on the 30 person we got to come back here cool cool this actually looks really dope right there you've become much much stronger than when we first met you to that all right this will probably be the last time we'll meet like this is everyone ready yep um we got no choice can I say something better make it quick I know we have to take NYX down but if you think about it that means we'll be getting rid of the Dark Hour isn't that fine though riun mentioned that if he dies our memories will disappear too so if we defeat NYX we might not remember any of this okay do you want that or do you want all of humanity to be eradicated true our experiences with the dark hour and our personas we may I lose them but even if that happens I want you all to know I won't forget you even if it robs us of all our memories together I swear I'll still remember you all what do you mean y Katan of course we remember each other I won't forget you either me neither I as well don't worry even if you do forget about us I'll remind you whatever yeah so don't worry about it thanks everyone okay in that case let's promise to meet each other again after the battle no matter what happens good idea but where should we meet I don't think it should be the dorm we'll come back here anyway it all goes well oh right should we meet me up for ramen yeah it should be a special occasion how about on graduation day for the 30 years when the Dark Hour vanishes our memories might not disappear right away so we shouldn't plan to meet too soon after the battle and there's no other day that'll have more significance to us wow you're really smart you caran graduation day huh that's that's easy enough to remember yeah that sounds like our best bet all right let's do it now where should we meet up ideally a place where we can clearly see that peace has returned to the city some place with a good view the rooftop of the school um oh how about the school roof yep a nice idea all right the roof it is but can Ken go there remember how you all feel right now no matter what happens we'll keep our eyes on the future we're not going to forget anything and we will see each other again right excited aren't you all right then let's get going business as usual y'all yeah together I'll do my best together don't let us down this will be easy I don't even fight with you anymore bro I don't know why some of y'all are [Music] yapping there any recording to take a look at so we can't watch videos when others are here that's kind of lame so what I'll do is I'll start off the fight with with uh Thanos and I'll most likely switch over to like lowkey or something uh unfortunately I wasn't able to get the fusure for assura but maybe maybe I'll level up in there and get like one of the teret cards or something that lets me use people higher level than me all right do I just got to go to the door or do I just say we want to go to tardus is who did I have to talk to I suppose all right okay from here on there's no turning back leader let's go let's end this I know this video took like a while to come out too we're probably like 20 minutes in when I'm announcing this or something but I was out to town so I wasn't able to beat the game as fast as I thought I'd be able to but it's all good um we're going to finish it now so 255 was the or 256 was the highest floor we went to actually stay alert but now this [ __ ] open oh it already changed we don't even get like the animation for it I sense a strong presence on the floor above a human please at least be careful this is stga they're really here stay on high alert shall we go then we got to keep moving oh man how many floors do we got to go through we have to keep going all right guys they said that strag is on this next floor so let's see going by the signal they're blocking our paths upward but there's only one signal they're not together I don't know what they' have up their sleep but for now our only way is up okay and then we talk to people here okay so this is where you can like redo your party if you wanted to interesting yeah this place looks actually pretty dope I like this design oh snap okay oh so we got to fight member like okay how are you yeah let's give ourselves like that nice boost let me make sure I'm on like the right Persona oh yeah see I wasn't on the right Persona and actually I can't remember if he does fire I think I have someone that does the anti fire as well yeah I'll start off with a vaka instead um just for the extra resistance so you came after all yeah I had no choice man you where's your partner Thea went on ahead of me he's destined for far greater Heights than someone like myself so you guys are here that means you're serious about fighting nyss how do you know about ni I just pieced together what information yuty Left Behind of course a good chunk of it was just delusional nonsense he was a real Nut Job damn all right you knew itki oh yeah so he was your boss huh it was a big surprise finding that out and that said we only really knew his name he was just one of the researchers who created us he created ated you who exactly are you strer yeah what's the point in telling you it'll all be over soon we don't have time for this step aside sorry no can do there's no way NX could be stopped by the likes of you but I ain't about to let you get into ka's way but I a't do you even understand what you're saying if we don't stop Nick all life will be destroyed that's the point we ain't going to live much longer either way so we got to see it through to the end so because y'all are dying we got to die so I'm not backing down but all right I think that's enough talking time to get serious let's do this however it turns out this is the end I'm going all out so you think he's going to blow himself up at the end I'm still setting up I mean didn't we scan him before so how come we [Music] uh kind of thrown off that we got to fight him again like this without knowing his weaknesses for so [Music] Now's the Time I won't I'll hit them where it hurts [Music] goia I'm nowhere near toa's level I just noticed something we went in the reverse order that we normally go in You Can't Hide Your weaknesses from me oh so you can scan too you going for the dog I on this enemy no weaknesses huh how you reflect fire in dark oh wow you're like the perfect enemy for our dog but all right uh go with so we want to let's move to [Music] bantos and then I want to do a severe attack on you physical attack at that I think we get like a chance to crit 999 okay that wasn't too bad pull the trigger we've already scamed this one next not going down what's the plan here how about D I did a lot I love using concentrate honestly and then I feel like he's not going to attack him cuz he already attacked him once no not yet we're just getting started you ain't the only ones who came prepared watch this now you'll see what I can really do here's a special treat just for you that damn he gave everybody confusion this is nothing what to do not that all right well yukari can like heal up the rest of the squad so I think I'll dispel that confusion but when your car comes up we all just get fully healed pull theer because we had a plan for you bro we had a plan that help should we [Music] ass I think I can use it [Music] now okay I think I want to actually use concentrate so one the one of the cool things too is you can pair together concentrate and charge with these theories um let's see we'll do this just because he knows everybody's weaknesses so we might as well increase our accuracy and evasion oh this is for her yep yeah bro where you aiming for never mind you're going to resist that but uh we'll just do a regular [Music] attack in this [Music] situation oh man my attack reverted damn it oh well here we'll still continue his attack down defense down going are you ready proper [Music] execution you're not beating me I'll die before I let you pass I mean you're going to have to do that anyway right that's how this heals him and transforms into another bruh enhancing drops at that concentration the side effect must be that doesn't give up I'm going to guard we got star I don't know what the hell he's about to [Music] do oh this one there like Almighty attack weak as hell weak as hell okay so he takes damage while attacking us that's good to know uh oh no never mind he's poisoned he he got poisoned when he did that injection that is [Music] interesting I know I'll have uh ukari heal us all up maybe actually yeah just in case cuz I know I'm not going to really guard with the other ones I want to use concentrate on mitsu I'll hit them where it hurts cuz what we're going to do is get this damage in [Music] okay never me that a crit a you missed not going down damn that poison is clutch honestly I'll go with it come I thought he was going to do another Almighty but I guess [Music] not just one more take [Music] that I move I'll too bad we can't get the freeze on [Music] them give it up already peace [Music] dude 145k God [Music] dang I failed what are you waiting for finish me off I would do anything for Takaya we were never here to kill you why you so devoted to him he wouldn't understand Zaya showed me the light when I was in the darkness I forget how many years it's been it was before I knew about the dark hour or having the potential or any of that the kicho group rounded up orphans from all over and tried to awaken personas in them their goal was to investigate tardus what but when a Persona doesn't emerge naturally it's difficult to control so kids had to take these experimental drugs so their personas wouldn't kill them only three kids out of the original hundred survived after 6 months the experiment was cancelled three kids or four so those three surviv were so you've all suffered at the hands of the Kio group as well Thea saved me from it all I'll never forget what he told me why are they saying though by the past what about old boy don't look to the Future simply live in the moment honestly I don't even give a damn about kuio anymore but I'm going to fulfill the highest wish no matter what but you oh snap we overstayed our welcome we're running out of time everyone head up but what about him oh [ __ ] you dude that's right I don't need you pity yeah you're not the type [Music] everybody complain and let's keep going damn it move move move no hesitation if we don't defeat ni then this was all for nothing thank you got it focus on the mission y'all damn [Music] it let's go Ias look at these ugly clowns crawling up in droves you not eat me I ain't going out on your terms what's in the suitcase you TOA fulfill our wish I'll hold on to the freedom you gave me to the very end [Music] Kaboom hey you hear that don't tell me don't look back let's go dude was on his bomber [ __ ] stop messing around precious egg to then how are you just in case wait wait she said it was still in effect that's so how I didn't act okay so for boss fights like that it doesn't matter I guess but we'll up our SP uh on these these two you can do it and I guess we still got to climb damn it all right guys we made it to floor 263 and I went back actually cuz there was like a teleporter portal there and uh who did I get I got asara cuz I hit level 85 I also got uh the lbb as well Thor and some other ones that aren't really that important um I was trying to plan out other fusions but some stuff was like at a higher level so I really couldn't do much with it um and one thing I need to do too is I'm going to switch back the team uh back to their C's uniform just cuz it seems like it's like the the right appropriate thing to do so damn okay okay I was about to say they're not going to hit us with anything there's one more member of struggle LEL if you want to proceed we'll have to fight him yeah we're ready so just a head of yours the top I take it you've defeated jyn oh how else will we get here bro you are quite a Troublesome Bunch even in these final moments you still insist on fighting why struggle against the inevitable end sorry to disappoint nothing's going to end not if we have anything to say about it cease your petty resistance why not celebrate this wonderful moment instead I'm not opposed to seeing this world off in your company will you shut up already we are not letting that happen got it my life was stolen from me and in its place I was given a power I never asked for and so I learned that the future is only a delusion only by striving to live every moment to its fullest can the Soul truly be satisfied that is why we welcome this glorious Revelation to shine a light upon this darkened world world I've had enough of your [ __ ] I'm not dying so you can have a freaking NightLight this is not merely my own desire many of my disciples have gathered to rejoice in her arrival that's just because NYX is causing all these strange incidents I'm afraid you have that backwards consider for a moment who is responsible for Reviving nck can a single person boast of this great accomplishment you all worked tirelessly to prevent it and yet instead you unwittingly aided in her coming so you see this is not just my will it is the will of all people people cannot face death without first finding meaning in life but the world has realized that any meaning in it was lost long ago NYX has come because Humanity has cried out for her salvation no way I don't believe you who would ever wish for NYX to come no there is some truth in what he says I guess wandering without purpose living an empty life dying an empty death passing your days without suffering I don't know if this can be called right or wrong but personally I wouldn't want to live that way I want a purpose and to have others I care about of course robot that's why I came all this way to me this is what it means to live we're not alone on our own we may be helpless but together we can achieve the impossible this is what you lack that's why you see the fall as salvation in choosing Solitude over bombs with others you limit your own power so a kuio responsible for robbing us of our future would dare to speak of our limits how laughable then again I should have known better this is just the kind of bigotry I would expect from the ones who labeled me a failure however Fate has chosen us very well then if you insist on proving your superiority I shall do the same either way your efforts are in vain nx's arrival is but moments [Laughter] away finally already just want to kick his ass you needn't hurry the moment we await is predestined it makes no difference whether it comes sooner or later please be careful even greater power than before I'm still throwing off that we're like going backwards in our speed in our speed order cuz normally I have uh I have the dog go first so kind of kind of thrown off there trying to think I don't think he has like a fire go pull the trigger [Music] i [Music] w shall I move the [Music] stri even as I speak I can feel it the end of everything I pity those who cannot see the blessing it truly is we are mere mortals we cannot change Our Fate we can always change Our Fate out of my can I stand on this enemy all right I can't tell what's the difference between massive and severe but High chance of fli an ailment we don't care about that oh actually I can't I don't think I showed you guys trickster this is lowkey and [Music] suso over here [Music] this I'm ready judgment is here are you ready proper [Music] execution I don't like the look in your eyes what is it that you see before you [Music] now oh that's truly ridiculous how absurd I can't bear to watch you all he's only saying that because oh you got to S our SP yeah oh that's that's foul we AIT is upon not like this no you carry never mind I owe you one they wrong for that though T now I feel like I should have came in and uh what should I D I have to do this should have came in with the plan to do like uh the dark block [Music] thing I need to be fully restored let's use this appreciate it so the fact that they let him just sa everything that that's some BS the moment we a upon it's like they're purposely targeting my healer what to [Music] do come pull the trigger come much obliged apprciate this will do the trick [Music] I don't want that falling off anytime soon oh you're kind of late on that one buddy let's see see do I have [Music] anything [Music] uh dang yeah I don't have that many like good options here we so good what's [Music] next I'll hit them where it hurts how [Music] about oh great now you're going to do status infliction on us need to get isn't it hurry Chun don't let the fear get to you here we [Music] go I have to do [Music] this shall I move to strike I'll show you it seems we are destined to be at all how can you summon such power even in the face of death encourageable as always out of my way missed weers what's next I [Music] won't [Music] Aria don't bother oh wait did I not have concentr oh yeah I don't have concentrate I would have I would have did more damage if I waited till the next turn for that I don't know why I forgot I didn't have [Music] that [Music] I'm not really even sure what I want to do with this [Music] dude thank you death all fool too bad build I have to do [Music] this come what's the plan [Music] here how [Music] about [Music] woo the moment we a is who you draining from bro of course of [Music] course [Music] in this [Music] situation [Music] can they're so bogus for that whole full SP uh it drain [Music] thing woo [Music] we've already scammed this one like if I do this one that'll double no it's not worth it I was going to say that's going to double the physical damage but mitsu and Yuri they don't they don't do that much from like a physical perspective fate is supposed to have chosen me this again is my resolve still not strong enough if so I'll throw away my trivial Pride you're going to do the booster too with my entire being I will bring you to your knees yay salvation has come hypn this is bad isn't it everyone else get struck by fear I have a bad feeling about this please get up what the hell why can you use be problem solved I'll go with Now's the Time come this can be it can be with your weak ass [ __ ] out of here and as you guys can tell this is going to be a long ass video wait when we are done I'm saying we are done uh we don't have a dark move so that it's useless right now I failed haven't I huh it's over for me there is nothing more I can do now kill me jeez bro wait are you scared come on IUS What A peculiar question you must be a stranger to death if you think it is something to fear what do you mean you fear it because you do not understand it I've lived long enough I have nothing more to say we have no interest in taking the life of someone who can't even move you will live to see if what you wished for comes true or not yeah stay right there and think about what you've done not putting them in timeout though what a truly baffling group you are we're finally here up ahead is the summit of tardus the promised Place RI mentioned let's regroup for the final battle all righty the final battle let me make sure I got who I want out front see I need to combine these two together to get that uto masuku but I also noticed unlike these other guys I don't have like a group buff so I might put that on orus orus sorry do I have those like team buff moves like [Music] that all right I think that's the I think that's like the best I can do for real for real right now but we got him out front works out we got no weaknesses really and I think everybody else is good to go as well um hey if we head up from here we'll reach the promised place the summit of Tartarus this TR be our final battle are you ready H yes we are ready woo this looks nice this reminds me of persona 5's uh one of their final fights where we had to go up against what was his name it was like it was kind of like a godish looking being so this is the top that me or did her voice sound a little different in the sky oh no NX there's no mistaking its power even without my Persona I've never encountered anything like it before you damn that looks creepy as hell riun that was my name for a time I almost miss it what's going on wait could you be I am merely a harbinger of the fall or perhaps I should say former Harbinger there is no longer a distinction to be made between Nix and myself I see so this is your purpose still I don't regret my decision we're taking you down no matter what you are I see then you must already understand what people fear the most what they tried to turn away from that is The Wretched thing I have become we know that yeah we know we know ready it's the one absolute for all living things then you must also understand that it is futile to resist will you still face me sure there must be fear in your hearts yeah of course I'm scared but who gives a [ __ ] I've got too much to live for I'm sick of running away living means looking death Square in the face so I won't back down not even from you even if I have to sacrifice myself I will stop you this is my choice all right bless is our answer I see get ready everyone NY is attacking I'm also sensing multiple Shadows approaching from the lower floors standby team intercept those Shadows this is the final battle victory at all cost [Music] come on everyone let's band together and win this I know we can do it all righty let's uh not that see what all we can really do here what to do or was it my heat riser [Music] now this should help this will do the trick better not get blocked or repelled did I say 10,000 I just did Devour the fruit of knowledge he sealed his fate entrusting his future to the cards he clings to a dim hope yes we Ariz the means by which all is revealed attaining one stream requires a St will and unfailing determination all right Arcana shift the fool [Music] to I didn't see real AR just changed to the mag his properties changed along with the Arana be careful it doesn't matter how many times he changes Arana I'll scan him no matter what so I don't care what you are I'm not backing down I'm like what does that mean for us like we have to each Arcana he has we have to bring down uh-oh it's fire [Music] right I'll go with pull the trigger I might as well analyze each one if he's going to swap through I have to do [Music] this thanks I was careless can p back on her feet shall I move to strike I'll show you I don't need to waste the other [Music] thing the Arcana is the means by which all is revealed the silence voice within one's heart Whispers the most profound [Music] wisdom all shall fall you're Frozen it's preventing you from moving y I didn't froze my boy analysis complete he's just going to go through so fire eyes Thunder okay let me what to do let me not just keep wasting our stuff then oops NOP that's not who I want first stuff's going away so is mine cor's been broken won't L thank you [Music] appreciate to run you're defenseless now check [Music] well you been done messed up buddy I'll go [Music] with I have to do this I this will do the [Music] trick person thank here G I think I can use it now just for the animation the Arcana is the means by which all is celebrates life's Grandeur it's brilliant I its [Music] magnificence pull the [Music] trigger come I'm ready I'll show you [Music] impossible can I scan on this enemy I see so this is what we're up against thanks for the heal [Music] Buddy's damn holy [ __ ] one more take the AR's only courage in the face of Doubt can lead one to the answer uhoh I'm detecting a surge of power from nx's sword I want to protect this world and everyone in it I know I can do it [Music] oh that wasn't that bad now's the time's much obliged appreciate shall I move to strike [Music] person I'm not even worried about that sword anymore or am I speaking too soon holy [ __ ] I'll why you got to hit my dog like that pull the trigger come this will do the trick I'll show [Music] you possible what to [Music] do what [Music] next judment is [Music] here are you ready a proper execution the AR it is indeed a precious gift to understand the forces that guide ones [Music] self I'm already over the fight guys honestly like this is Nick bro Nick's feathers are floating what is this there's some kind of special power in those feathers be careful they're going to be way more vulnerable to mental ailments n just changed the hant we won't be defeated doomsday [Music] Doctrine Now's the Time person what's the plan here they've already scanned this one [Music] oh wow you got a crit on me too bro thank goodness now it's time for a counter attack let me use Oracle cuz I'm like I'm just sitting on it and I probably could have got Oracle again throughout this entire fight with how long it [Music] is the AR there is both Joy and wonder and coming [Music] to what is this lover ni just changed to The Lover's type you're not giving up no matter how long it takes what next uh I think I want to heal up actually heal up next time my guy comes around I'll use heat Riser on her and that way we can get extra damage [Music] in oh wow we missed I am surprised really what this weird feeling what's wrong with me well never mind on that here we go uh we're just going to go for it even though it's going to do less damage than what I wanted it to do wow that's still a lot though and with this you're finished change forms one of the greatest blessings attained from The Gift of Life is the freedom to pursue one's personal goals Nick switch to the chariot now can I scan on this eny [Music] okay how impossible what makes it impossible bro I'll go [Music] with in this situation is that help appreciate it I'm ready [Music] you to hit me what to do for [Music] so [Music] something useful thank you arti don't bother you can't hide from me finale the Arcana to find the one true path one must seek guidance amidst uncertainty Chang to the Justice do we run out of SP on o girl here's what I found wow okay so physical attacks only pretty much accept it my de G I think I can use it now hear my prayer might as well see how quickly we got that too I should have switched her back to her se's uniform the Arcana it requires Great courage to look within on and Forge one's own path changed to The Hermit the time [Music] there's can I scan on this enemy I'll hit them where it hurts I'll show you oh crap can't move I'll go with self-preservation it's my turn now still can't move over here watch this she's already doing hella [Music] damage Oh I thought that was going to do more I'm ready this will do the trick we are ever present alongside time is fortune crol and unflinching now it's the fortune Arcana oh gosh okay good thing she missed what to do dodg per se what next thank you EG [Music] what's the plan [Music] here the are one needs strength to endure and Rise Above suffering and torment we're almost there we got after this one one more there's like 12 Arcana uh sir sir what are you doing pull the trigger there's jeez shall I move to strike I'll show you what to do for in this situation won't this will do the [Music] trick how [Music] about we are Conor's the me in the face of unavoidable disaster lies the opportunity to search for Redemption next change to the hangedman father please watch over [Music] me Rim [Music] Transcendence get more actions that was close oh how many actions [Music] ity I think I can use it now I'll go we're going to wait just in case [Music] let's end this just one more take the moment man devoured the fruit of knowledge he sealed his fate is that what he said at the beginning in trusting his future to the cards man clings to a dim hope yet the Arcana is the means by which all is revealed Beyond The Journey you have taken lies the absolute end it matters not who you are one thing is always certain death awaits all what are you shifting to now the [Music] fool oh okay I sense the death Arana this is mix's true form I didn't want you to suffer but the time for that has long passed is this really what you desire well I already know the answer very well let us continue until the world meets its [Music] end wrong everyone judgment is here are you ready proper execution [Music] I SC on this enemy cool no weaknesses we'll raise the party's evasion you cannot avoid death to live is to die they are one and the same the apocalypse I can't go down just yet all righty well we got one more turn on o girl so we should be good to [Music] go Now's the [Music] Time come [Music] that helps thanks what's the plan [Music] here [Music] behold this is the path you have chosen night Queen AR how much is this going to do oh snap this animation is dope my head is heart confused oh no she's acting on her own oh [Music] no let's use this not my money me [Music] money's dist this will do the [Music] trick All Shall ice storm at least one person [Music] blocks confused oh no she's acting on her own so I need her to heal I have to do this and she should she should be close to hitting Max too for her next [Music] theg shall I move to strike how [Music] about [Music] hey why do you get to go twice of course you get a crit why are you getting all these turns bro like damn relax what to do it's payback time hurry T looks so focused oh damn I should have waited till I lower his stats now this isn't going to do as much and this you're yeah that was like nothing ready just to get rid of this reflect am I oh wait that did a lot oh wait we confused ourselves there too damn it damn it accept your fate going dark no can anyone help no here we go I won't let you down Now's the Time thank you appreciate it this will do the [Music] trick ter spark oh that's going to hurt Yuri [Music] I'll go with we so you better watch it you're back in the ni now it's much ofes I'll hit them where it hurts I'll show you [Music] think I kind of want to just keep using debilitate to make him waste that extra turn to debuff himself oh that's why he missed he missed on giving himself more turns but he gives himself like five extra turns right so it's two this doesn't look good I swear if they go if they're about to let him just destroy us off that [ __ ] what to do Now's the Time I won't thank you appreciate [Music] it oh that wasn't for [Music] come over here watch this [Music] Aria don't bother you can't hide from me finale there we go there we go [ __ ] out of here did we do it oh I guess not never mind never mind spoke too soon Such a Pity you understand your fate yet you still fight against it with all your might if only there were more like you then perhaps the fall could have been prevented but it's too late now I mean didn't we win what is he doing now oh snap the whole like eyeball what is that it's the Moon it kind of looks like Run's getting pulled into it no wait it's The Moon that's being pulled down to us you're kidding me are you saying that n is the moon itself it's coming soon it will descend Upon Us crashing into the Earth Ah that's how it was going to destroy everything and everybody's going to see it too what the hell am I what's going on what the hell is that on God wait look up there is that the moon what is going on that thing I can't get a signal my phone isn't working what's going on you heard anything about this holy crap look at the holy this is amazing the apocalypse the world is finally ending [Music] at last h [Laughter] you how marvelous I can't believe the moment has finally arrived shut up what are we going to do something's coming from the Moon what is this it's like something's crushing me this is nothing unbelievable even now you continue to struggle shut up you bastard death will be patient no longer C you see that what can you hope to accomplish now I wish you were here to see it allhe chin I will never give up never why what good will it do to rise up just give in hell no I'm not backing down we made our choice we saved our lives on it God damn it we've come so far it can't end here my Consciousness is fading leader okay got to stay calm that's right like fuka was when she saved me I'm the one who said we're always connected that's how I know you're still hanging in there fuka I'm scared as hell right now but I know I can't give up right fuka what's going on am I dreaming man what am I going to [Music] do what on Earth is that coming from the school are we in the afterlife dear of course not you don't see your son do you I have no idea what the heck is going on who what's going on why is the world suddenly declaring an emergency someone's going to have to pay big for this one I guess all I can do is believe in them don't die out there The Velvet room where am I The Velvet Room there's no need to worry this isn't the afterlife you're still very much alive do you remember what I once told you how the strength of your Social Links will determine your potential yeah listen can you hear their many voices each one's power is faint yet they all reach out to you can you feel them it was pretty much the ones I maxed out I believe your eyes and listen their voices may be faint but you hear them don't [Music] you I can feel my friend's powerful emotions flowing into my heart lame I'll always have your back don't worry about a thing I know you can do it I know you're facing a difficult task Somewhere Out There but I truly believe that you can overcome any obstacle something frightful is going on but we're not giving up that's right dear we have to be strong for him something crazy is going on here but I know you're out there doing all you can I'm not going to lose hope I learned that from you oh God I'm freaking out here but I know he's doing his best out there too I don't even know what he looks like but I know he's okay I can feel it well that's what your voice sounds like I know you're trying to stay focused you were there when I needed you I hope I can do the same hey can you believe what's going on I know you must be doing everything you can so I will too everyone else is scared but not me you showed me how to be oh I guess her parents uh aren't getting divorce anymore I think so what on Earth made me think of you at a time like this well I suppose you did teach me a thing or two about trust you were the one who taught me that running away never solves nothing I bet you're somewhere out there fighting the good fight right now well I'm here for you too kid I'll take on any challenge that comes my way without passing blame you taught me that I bet you're fighting right now too huh you saved me I was so blind before I'm sure you've got things under control right you always do I know I'm not the only one who suffered you've endured a lot too but you can't just give up you taught me that can you hear them these are the voices of hope that wish to help you they are weak but together they will bring about a great change in you now is the time to draw on the true strength of the bonds you have forged I never dreamed of seeing that hard with my own eyes this is indeed a surprise behold power that you and I shall unveil it is the power to bring about a new beginning or the ultimate end with this new found power it might now be possible perhaps you can save those you hold dear from that which cannot be defeated what you have in your hands is the power of the universe nothing is outside realm of possibility for you now he's the strongest Persona wielder in all the games based off this scene alone now I know he's the strongest none of the other main series characters in The Persona games have ever had the power of the universe and I don't know how else you could beat that it seems that in addition to death Fate has also dealt you the Wild Card you must accept your destiny our contract has been fulfilled I have completed my role as well you were truly a most remarkable guest now he should put his hands in his pocket to look even cooler standing right now hey you can't be going out there by yourself no don't go I got the power of Friendship with me so chill the [ __ ] out no pleas it's a solo fight what are you doing damn it why why the hell can't we get [Music] up don't do this we've already come so far together God damn it why aren't you listening come back [Music] okay [Music] music [Music] death what can we do how can we help him don't give up we're going to get through this together him strength take my life if you must the power of friendship surges through oh y not even going to let me use my personas back up you come back from this you hear me I don't believe it he's going to face it all alone no he's not alone I'm not letting him [Music] die more I need more I'm going to get a hit uh a crit hit and they're going to let me do like an all out maybe okay come on y'all you please you have to make it back all right let's do this heal me Great Seal unleashes The Power Within to seal Nicks all right and our Persona is the use uh the universe let's [Music] go [Music] where are we did NYX create this place or was it him yamaki is he all right what happened everything disappeared after being covered in that light I don't sense anything now don't tell me he the hell are you saying that's impossible try again he can't be the only one oh away damn it not again we put our lives on the line just like he did in fact we came here expecting to die come on y'all chill out I only him I am the universe just relax why am I so powerless am I really unable to protect the ones important to me this is what I was trying trying to prevent you're out there aren't you I know you are I refuse to believe that you're gone answer me I know you're listening we're here say something [Music] please I'm okay I'm okay okay okay don't worry that voice that's R using it I will sleep once again peace will return to this universe for you and for him he's found the answer to Life's greatest question it just happened a bit sooner than it will for the rest of you life's greatest question I guess you'll find the answer one day as well isn't it like what's the meaning to life is precious Irreplaceable you just need to realize how the bonds of friendship have changed you the bonds of friendship the Dark Hour will soon vanish from this world you will truly be liberated from its Dominion the legacy of life will continue congratulations you have the miracle you sought may we meet again someday now we're how did we end up back hey look over there whoa what's up with tardus it's finally happening everything's going back to normal our job is done wait is that what up y'all why are you the only one running to [Music] me you're back oh thank goodness you sure took your damn time seriously you were really stringing us along there you had me going I was starting to think we'd never see you again guys come on this isn't the time to be crying you're crying too sonat son finally the team's all here what leader huh I'm you're crying no they won't stop you can cry what's wrong with me in the midst of the warm welcome back the dark hour is quietly coming to an end the time never to return but an unexpected Miracle the world was saved from the fall peace was restored and people resumed their busy lives no one remembered anything about the extraordinary turn of events and so the season changed he okay we just jumped by like a whole month yo damn it's cold but of course you never miss a day of school huh I'm impressed man this year really flew by for practically 30 years now only one more year of high school you think there's anything interesting on the horizon definitely man you think so looking at the current 30 years I'm not really sure pretty much all they do is freaking study sure doesn't look like fun to me is that what we're going to turn into next year man why do I feel like I'm forgetting something we got to go to the rooftop man hey is that girl looking at us dude she's pretty cute how come I never noticed her before what are you talking about she lives in the same dorm as us wait she does uh what's her name then I don't know sheesh then you barely know more than me anyway it's always crazy in the dorms this time of year with so many people coming and going oh yeah did you hear sonat Senpai is moving out you know him right he's the captain of the boxing team yeah not that I really talk to him and obviously all the graduates are leaving kuio Senpai is getting ready to move too Kio oh the student council president she's in our dorm too huh man what's up with that girl hey there are you looking at us is something wrong oh no it's nothing she looked like she had something on her mind huh wait you think she might be interested in one of us not a chance man you really know how to hit a guy where it hurts by the way you could time uh yeah never mind forget it what just say it now it's going to bother me well uh do you remember how we became friends I mean don't take it the wrong way I was just wondering well it's not like we're best friends or anything but I guess it just kind of happened yeah I guess so you know what weird though I think I get what you mean I can't really explain it but something just feels off now that I think about it that girl a crap class is ended for the day and you know what I'm heading to the rooftop if it lets me oh is it not going to let me oh wait someone to talk to hey so that seat's been empty this whole time who even sits there yeah I know I know you don't remember either dude this is driving me crazy I'm seriously going to lose all my marbles before the end of the school [Music] year oh hey okay at least I want to I'll tell you don't laugh okay I'm going to the public library cuz like there weren't any books about sports physiology and stuff at the school library I'm going to head out first to get some studying done okay then again since we've already bumped into each other I kind of want to chat for a bit want to walk me to the entrance well then uh guess I'll see you got to go home and [Music] study a you know I can't hey remember what I told you before about finally finding my dream I never had anything to work towards until now so I'll admit I'd been slacking off to be honest my grades really suck it's been tough getting them back up and that's why I need to work harder I really really want to hang out with you I want to be with you and I want to feel closer to you too but I got to be patient that's what I have to keep telling myself I want to take my dream into my own hands and stand next to you with my head held high I want us to walk towards the future together you just watch I'm going to be so much more Irresistible by then I bet you'll fall in love with me all over again just kidding right right right right you and like my four other oh I know don't they say that food tastes the best after you've tried your hardest in a match well this is just like that if we're patient now and cool off for a while then maybe later on wait what are you even making me say anyway that's all I have to say uh see you we'll hang out sometime soon uh I am not about to talk to everybody here if that's what they want me to [Music] do I like how they're all kind of like considered something else now [Music] damn they really want me to talk to everybody all right guys hold on all right I just wanted to capture in here that our teacher Miss toriumi is the one that we fell in love with basically uh in the video game on those weekends that say she hated her job was like a teacher Etc so I just want to get this in here cuz I thought it was pretty cool so you really are um I I'm Maya I'm Maya it's me damn it you got a problem with that hell no why don't you say something jeez you idiot this is so embarrassing but there was one thing I wanted to say if we ever met face to face I I was able to turn my life around thanks to you so um thank you no problem I went back to to the dorm guys coming up next a special report on the amazing Commodities Corporation producer of Tanaka's amazing Commodities president Tanaka has made an undisclosed private expenditure that caused quite a stir in the media with us is our reporter live on scene take it away I'm reporting from The Amazing Commodities head office where a swarm of journalists has convened word has it that President Tanaka will be coming out shortly to make a statement the tension in the air is thick thank you we'll be looking forward to updates as things unfold back to the studio the unaccounted for expenditure has sparked a massive investigation some theorize he is guilty of tax evasion oh no question this is President Tanaka we're talking about all he cares about is lining his own pockets okay we're going to skip this cuz this is like a social link thing time to go to [Music] bed CU I totally forgot it's actually the graduation days when we're supposed to meet on the [Music] rooftop sender's name is blank who is this from thank you [Music] interesting it's me I guess may I please come in thank goodness I'm so happy to see you again I'm sorry to show up so suddenly but I really needed to talk to [Music] you I remember everything it seems like everyone else has forgotten but I remember that day [Music] we I'm sorry it's just that when I remembered I was afraid you might go somewhere far away like you did during the last [Music] battle today is graduation day isn't it I'm sorry the ceremony's already begun weather is so nice outside do you remember where we all promised to meet why don't we go ahead and wait for the others we can enjoy the peaceful view of the city sure [Music] sh the time to part has finally come though this is our last day together we want the third-year class to know that we're truly proud of you we wish each of you good health happiness and success on this momentous occasion I bid you all a fond farewell on behalf of the student body next a word from the valedictorian from class D mitsuru kosan thank you this past year I accepted an important responsibility as student council president when I first addressed you from this Podium I spoke to you all about seizing opportunity while you had the chance it must have been fate that intervened and gave me an important reminder of this as many of you know my father unexpectedly he unexpectedly passed away due to sudden illness sudden illness what's going on wow that's rare I've never heard her stumble in a speech before it's a big day it must be tough to talk about her father she remembers what's on I remember now that's right after my father died there was a time I lost motivation to live my life am I forgetting something Senpai what are you doing garu but no longer I shall honor my father's will I won't run from the future I'll face it head on not a single doubt remains in my mind and the reason I promise mitsuru that's right it's because I have forged such wonderful friendships and we swore that we would never lose hope no matter what the future may bring Senpai we remembered him an IUS yes I did as well let's go they're waiting hello is ceremony H hello I'm like shut shut your ass up we got friendship [ __ ] to do [Music] the wind it feels so nice I had I'm finally noticing the beauty of spring it's wonderful and yet without exception each and every season will come to an [Music] end we fought side by side we faced The World's End and now I'm finally beginning to understand what it was I've been searching for why they got me laying on her like this though really meant to live now I think it's following your heart fighting for what you can change and accepting the things you can't nothing on this Earth lasts forever every life will one day fizzle out that holds true for all of us and as soon as you come to terms with it you realize something you see what really matters and find out what it is that gives your life meaning when I learned that I wasn't strong enough I was tormented by it now I understand why protecting others is the duty I was given but to me it was more more than an obligation at some point it became something I wanted to do for myself once I decided to try and prevent the fall something inside me clicked when I thought about how I might never see you again that's when I first understood What mattered to me the most and so I made up my mind what I want is to protect you from now until the end of time don't crush my MP3 player now I want to stay by your side and I know I'm not the only one out there who could do this but still I want to because I'm positive if I do it for you then nothing's a waste my life will have meaning so thank [Music] you [Music] don't break my fingers what's cten into me it's good I finally found a reason to live so why am I hey hey they're here I see it now I have friends we support each other through thick and thin not everything needs to be for some greater purpose just caring about someone can be enough that's all we need to give our lives meaning as for me I found my path and that's to protect you with my life [Music] thank you so much for everything you must be tired go ahead and rest now I'll be right here I won't be going anywhere [Music] in a moment the others will be joining [Music] us [Music] we are that tired [Music] huh it'll be okay I'm right by your side here to protect you forever more [Music] [Laughter] damn the boy can pick up the dog like [Music] that [Music] sweet guys we finally finished it and I know sorry for like the the weight in between the past like two is weeks I was out of town so a lot of the pre-recording I did uh was up until part 31 and I wasn't able to get back in time but that's why I wanted to make this long video to kind of make up for we're going to have time stamps in it so you can either jump to the fight or even skip past this part if you want um I don't think there's anything else but I just want to thank you guys for you know sticking with the series and checking it out Persona in general is like a pretty fun series to play as well as the game that it's spun off from uh Shin magami Tensai so you know if you guys enjoy this I know you're going to enjoy more stuff coming to the channel cuz I 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Josh Donaldson discusses his move to the Yankees
yeah i mean i think most importantly we folk we came out there and we we understand we have a goal as a team for the new york yankees and that's to win a world series and um obviously this organization uh cashman and the people that are involved with making those decisions felt that bringing me here and uh along with the other guys that came with me would be the best for that and yeah we're excited about you know starting the season and and what the season is going to entail well andy do you have a question hi josh we weren't around you obviously when you made those comments about gary decided to name him specifically last year so i guess for our content it's like what what was the reasoning behind naming specific players in that and do you have any regrets oh well first off i think uh when i named gary cole as part of the thing i said look he's the first guy that's pitched since suspensions had been handed down that was what i said about gary cole and uh i said that i thought that this was a league problem right and those are my words and i feel like the league has addressed the issues that were at hand um after that you didn't hear from excuse me you didn't hear from me and uh you know today we're sitting here and our goal is to win a championship for the new york yankees and that's where we're at uh brian hope to the left in your conversation with garrett this morning what do you need to cover what did you need to hear from him what do you need to hear from you yeah i mean i think we were just having a conversation because obviously there was a big stink that was made out of it last year right a lot of conversation went on about it and i think both sides wanted to be able to meet and address the issue that was at hand as far as um you know just hearing one another and ultimately leading us back to our goals and i keep saying this but our goal is to win and both of us are in the same clubhouse now and that's what we're going to do dave right in the front were you wondering josh but that first step out was going to be against him after you guys had that uh back and forth uh not necessarily you know i've stepped in the box a lot of times i've been whatever whatever happened happened um obviously he felt like it was a better idea to probably strike me off which he did a few times so at that at the end of the day uh i'm happy to be on the same team and not have to strike out against them more so you guys just walked away from that conversation just feeling good about it i feel like we had a good conversation uh christy to the right and then justin christie go ahead josh what was your reaction after you heard about the trade what were your thoughts and what has it been like since you heard about it oh i was shocked i i really wasn't uh knowing what that this was going to happen um you know and this kind of brings me back to what i wanted to say earlier is i do i want to thank the minnesota twins organization for the time that i spent there and obviously signing me to a contract and then now they're between him and cash but in the minnesota twins organization you know they're giving me an opportunity to come here and be a part of what should be a contending team just in the back left josh but have your feelings change about him since trade i never thought gary cole was a bad person i don't know if that's what you're assuming no not about his character i think at the at the end of the day both of us are competitors and i respected garrett cole for being a competitor and obviously when you watch a pitch he wants to he competes and he wants to win and i think him and i are similar in that scenario um any other further things about that i think the league has addressed and that's not up for me to talk about really anymore if i think if i thought that it was still an issue i would i would still talk about it but i don't uh ryan over to the right josh curious uh with the abbreviated spring training how much of a difference will that make and as players is there a part of you that maybe likes the shorter spring training um i mean we're playing the hand that we're dealt right now i mean there's really um no other way to go about it you try to go about it in a professional manner and uh you know every day going forward into the season start is very important whether it's [Music] you know base running you know hitting taking ground balls every every day to where a little bit longer of a spring training you can kind of take i don't want to say breaks but uh you can kind of have a blow every now and again but every every day is that definitely going to be key for each individual here uh eric and then we'll go to greg josh is a opposing team player what were your thoughts coming to the united states did you enjoy playing there a rough time with fans uh i mean i never really felt like i had a rough time with fans i mean i think one thing you'll learn about me is i you know have a pretty good time when i'm playing baseball so uh at the end of the day i mean i think new york as an organization has uh obviously a history of being very successful franchise and it's something that i'm excited to be a part about
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First lady hands over refurbished Ussher polyclinic to GHS
the Adagio door constituency in Accra on Tuesday took delivery of its allocated ambulance the ambulance arrived are the constituency while the first lady Rebecca cuff Waddell was inaugurated and handing over the refurbished Asha polyclinic to the Ghana Health Service the occasion was also used to our dog do-do-do-do-do constituencies newly allocated ambulance under the one constituency one ambulance program one of the first to receive the facility the adjudicate a case AB macho is the smallest yet one of the most populated in the Acropolis although it is situated in an urban area it is deprived in many aspects the Asha town clinic as it was formerly called was built between 1963 and 1964 it has undergone significant transformation from a town clinic into a now refurbished polyclinic the facility has served a population of over 145,000 the first lady advised the personnel of the hospital to ensure longevity of the newly installed medical equipment these facilities are always in an excellent shape we should not see the kind of deterioration we saw with the old facilities community members and stakeholders should also see these facilities as this and ensure that they are kept in the best possible conditions at all times Asha polyclinic now has everything immortan day facility requires for an efficient healthcare delivery among other things a newly built maternity theater at Jamestown was inaugurated and handed over to the Ghana Health Service to handle emergency situation which previously would have been referred to other health centers the refurbishment was a collaboration between the Rebecca Foundation the GCB Bank Limited the people of Asia do kETK and his Evans have heaved a sigh of relief following the inauguration and handing over of the ashaphilar clinic so Ghana held a service this facility has often said as the first point of crawl to the people within this area with its outpatient departments recording hundreds of cases on a daily basis from a Shadowcat occur at you Akane to Adam tv3 [Applause]
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Lil Wayne - My Girl (LeftOver From Tha Carter II Album)
I never do it again my [ __ ] we yeah baby it again just that [ __ ] sold letter to my girl AKA loyalty to my darling ever so precious my girl my baby Cash Money Record we as for the record the relationship grew and we we lasted longer than them asses expected see we were strong when neglected you we held on when the others was separate and desperate now never cuz your boy leverage so his friends telling him when he could do better than but whenever them friends come questioning me and you stuck by each other never let them in that's veteran that's evident we got to lose them old [ __ ] that's evident [ __ ] you my new and Old Testament and when the haters start pressing and the [ __ ] start pressing I'm a represent yeah where every I got to cuz I'm the president some other ladies lost their main Nick so rest in peace B cash money you Wayne [ __ ] and I ain't trying to lose my main girl I say it's cash money [ __ ] wck what Wayne S I had conversation with other top women we talked about going steady but I wasn't ready I haven't got in it I was not with it it's cuz the [ __ ] at home is my own my Throne is ready to seee SW as soon as we get out the rain we see a storm if you run throughout my veins and every arm so even throughout the pain I'm very calm but these [ __ ] talking about my [ __ ] and how they [ __ ] her and how they hate her and how they used to love her and I almost left I was weak and we still moving units every week I'm sorry man I never believe try to kill myself and I F just cuz my mom I be rich I love yeah and I'm feeling like P me and my girlfriend that's all you other [ __ ] [ __ ] so you were in no reunions no records [ __ ] [ __ ] you I wish I never met you Birdman still my father slim still a Goda and this is cash money CER be mad for the money [ __ ] ain't nothing change the only thing change is the cribs and the bank got money the stakes and the plates and the dates [ __ ] you don't know what I mean if you ain't got [ __ ] you broke I'm straight [ __ ] I'm good like great [ __ ] fig eight [ __ ] 8 a.m. I'm early you late [ __ ] I'm gone you got to wait [ __ ] I'm give me my [ __ ] baby I love my cash money yeah that ain't fa but I don't care I'm a [ __ ] Cash Money million
Young Money Records
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Don't do this or you will lose you faith?! 🤔
now let me tell you something if you spend more time watching the news or on your phone or on Facebook or on social media or whatever than in the word of God you are going to lose your faith what do I mean by that you will come to church on Sunday morning or someone will make a statement to you about what God can do and you will not believe it because you're living more in this world and you're listening more to this world than you are to the word of God so you will lose your faith and you'll have to come to church on on Sunday morning for somebody to pump you up and we also will not only lose our faith you'll lose your way unless you get in the word more than you're in the news or on social media or on Facebook
Church At The Center
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The 6 Simple Steps To Pricing Your Artwork or Art Services | Art Business
well hello and welcome to this video would you like a super simple formula to help you with pricing all the things in your art business that's whether you offer products or services so that you never have to wonder exactly how to price them ever again if the answer is yes then you're in the right place you want to enjoy this video the six steps to pricing but wait to the very end because i am sharing the most important part there and note that this content comes directly from inside my art business academy membership now artists in there are using this formula to easily price their artwork every single day but i wanted to share just a little bit of it with you today to just help and inspire you and show you that there really is an easy formula for pricing everything in your art business hello welcome or welcome back to my channel my name is sophie mahere and i love to help artists just like you to set up market and grow a profitable art business on this channel we do just that we talk all things art business related so if you'd love more tips and tricks on how to grow your successful and profitable art business then make sure to subscribe to my channel and hit that bell to get notified every time i post a new video okay so let's dive into those six steps for pricing your artwork or art services now before we dive into the six steps i'd just like to share with you this simple overarching principle and that is that you're running an art business so if every time you create something you scratch your head whip out the calculator start timing yourself you're really never going to get round to actually creating more products or services and running the business because you'll be so caught up in well how long did it take me what does it cost what should i be doing how should i price this item what you do want instead is a really simple formula which i'm going to share with you today so by remembering that you're running an art business the thing that you need to note at the end of your year is that so long as your business overall is making a good profit then each individual item doesn't matter so much some you might find that you price to break even others you might even give away as a kind of lost leader but so long as your core products and services are giving you good profit and that your business overall is in profit at the end of the year that's what matters not each individual thing you might find that you have two products that are quite similar one has taken you a huge amount of time and the other one has taken you a small amount of time and i know that and i talked about in my previous video the three huge pricing mistakes and what to do about it instead we discussed those different formulas and really the reasons why you wouldn't want to be doing that type of thing for pricing your artwork and art services and before we talk about that number one i can feel you saying sophie what is a good profit well that is going to depend on the type of business that you've got set up but i think you should really be looking at a minimum of 30 percent 40 ideally 50 or 60 profit overall that's all your sales in minus all your expenses out i want to talk about more things like that make sure you're subscribed to the channel all right you won't want to miss more videos because we talk about this all the time all right drumroll are you ready step number one oh yes we do still need one of these step number one is to work out your base costs you are literally going to think of the item that you sell the most or in this example i've used a kind of medium sized product or service and you're going to work out approximately what costs are involved in making or producing that item you do need to have some idea of materials it's just going to give you something to work from all right but at the end of the day you don't need to be working out proportions of a tube of paint and getting it exact it's a rough ballpark amount step number two once you have that figure in mind you're now thinking about yourself as an artist and a creative and step number two is where are you now where are you now on your journey as a creative are you a total beginner you've just started out you just started creating or making or delivering you've not really done a workshop your very first workshop you know what you're going to be charging at that point in your career is going to be different from 20 years down the road when you are more experienced all right so we need to identify that so if we look to scale from from 1 to 10 where one is i've just started out i want to start selling things but i'm really in the beginner phase to step 10. i've been doing this for 30 years or more you know i've been pricing i'm kind of curious now to see whether i'm on the right track maybe i'm looking to improve my pricing or put the pricing up but basically in terms of my creativity i'm really experienced now some people ask is this about you in business no this is you as a creative how long have you been doing your thing you put that number down all right you might say well i've been doing it for a while i'm going to put myself down as a five all right let's go on and look at the next step so step number three now you're going to research your competition do you need to find out who is doing what you are doing who is offering the same product or similar product to the same audience as you and that maybe you already know who your competitors are and that's great but if you don't i'm going to urge you to do quite a bit of research now if you sell locally you maybe want to trundle off and have a look around your galleries open studios art fairs get to know the artists in your area and find out who's a competitor if you're selling globally then obviously you need to hit the internet and we're going to be googling and looking on pinterest and looking on instagram or on youtube if you teach or do deliver art services right you need to do a good amount of research and you want to find somebody who offers what you offer and is likely offering it to a similar audience and who is approximately in the same sort of ballpark on their journey too so if for example you were a total beginner and you've found a competitor who's been in their field for 20 years they're not exactly offering the same product all right because you're still learning and they're experienced and we do improve with age like a good wine and a good cheese all right so if you get away from the food once you've done your research you're going to take the average price of your three competitors so for example i very often use an example i do my costings on say a 30 by 30 canvas it's usually my best seller so if you find somebody who's doing the same sort of size you take three different prices you add them up divide it by three that gives you the average price point and now we move on step four it's time for the calculator again unless your numbers are really basic all right we're going to do the maths we're going to work out the maths all right and don't get too terrified this is a super super simple equation you're going to take those initial costs that you worked out for creating making or delivering your art product or art service you're also going to account for what we call selling fees that could simply be a credit card processing fee it could be a percentage from a gallery it could be any any type of fee it could be that you run a workshop and you've got venue cost anything any costs are directly related to your product or service then that's likely going to be a percentage it might be an amount but likely it's going to be a percentage so then we say okay well we've got the average price point that we got from our three competitors we're going to take away the costs and we're going to take away the percentage selling fees so for example if for example we did our competitor analysis and we came up with an average price of three thousand dollars or pounds you've worked out that approximately takes it's going to cost you 300 to make your product and you've decided you're going to sell through a gallery that perhaps takes 50 percent see how we're keeping the numbers nice and simple so we take that 3 000 we minus the 300 and then we minus the 50 off that price and that leaves you with drumroll 1 350. you now have a potential profit price for your item step 5 you're going to use what i call your gut calculator that's when you look at that price and you go how does it feel oh my god that's so exciting i'm really happy to take away 1300 as profit from that piece of work or you're going to look at it and think that's taken me a really long time it doesn't feel good now likely we all know how much you'd actually like to charge for product or service and what tends to get away in the way is the old mindset so we have to bear in mind that when we talk about pricing my experience is largely why most artists don't put a good a decent price point on their work or their services is because of a lack of belief they say no one is going to buy it at that price and there we have right there a massive limiting belief that is going to hold you back for weeks months years of your life and it's something that you really gotta want to work on and eliminate because while you hold a limiting belief that you or your work is not worth a certain price you're never going to be able to move it forwards but assuming you don't have that we're now looking at that and you're thinking okay what does how do i feel in here i feel good about that price or i don't feel so good about it so what you're going to do is you're going to go back to that average price point and tweak it up or down that 3 000 in order to get that figure higher we're going to say well what if we started off at 4 000 and then did the maths well what if we started at 5 000 and then did the math would that give me a better profit margin and as soon as you get to a number where you're like that feels good that's the correct price now if you're looking at the 1300 and you're running for the hills because you've never ever made that amount of money before and you're thinking it's too scary i'm never going to be able to charge the 3000 like et cetera et cetera et cetera then you can of course tweak it down remember overall with pricing you can always put your prices up but once you set the prices you can't go backwards so you know if you're feeling a little awkward about the price i'd rather you start it at the lower end once you gain confidence and you start selling that you then eek it up but remember your ideal customer and if you haven't watched videos on that i will link up there and in the description below your ideal customer your target market is not buying your work on the price point they're buying your work because of the value it adds to their life and as soon as we can make that mental shift and you realize that people are falling in love with your artwork and then just referencing how much it is working out how they're going to pay for it that is your ideal customer the customer that comes along looks at the price point and then looks at the work well you know there are many other shopping avenues that they can go down all right we want your ideal customer to be buying your work and that's when of course we need to talk marketing so make sure the check links below this video where i share a whole load of marketing videos that's going to help you better get out in and get your work in front of the right audience okay i promised you at the very beginning the most important part was coming at the end here it is step six you need to create your pricing list and before you say oh yeah that's great sophie i can leave now there's a little bit more to it so what i want to let you know is the list is crucial so once you've got that one piece worked out i usually say that's your key product or your service or maybe perhaps in this example a medium size so for me it would be a 30 by 30 canvas for example and then i might say what's the smallest i'm going to make well that might be i don't know 12 by 12 and what's the largest i'm going to make 2 meters by two meters for example the easiest way to do this is to do the same process for the large one and the same process for the small one and once you have small medium and large you simply you increment out in between so if you offer a variety of sizes you look at your sizes on the list and you say okay proportionate that bit more proportionately a bit more a bit more a bit more until you have a decent scale of prices that works from small to large and then here is the most important part i want you to take away stick to it i've met so many people who said i've just created this new thing what should i price it well don't you have a pricing list you know if you're doing artwork it's going to be by size if you're making like sculpture it might be by type if it's bronzes or it's clay they might have a pricing list if you're also offering prints you can create a list of prints using the same formula so you may be going to batch things together you only need to do this once you never need to do it again the only time you're going to put it up is at the end of the year when generally everybody starts increasing prices the cost of living goes up now this this is kind of life and you're running a business right i'm just checking in with you you are running a business you want to make a profit so at the end of the year you're going to have to put things up maybe your studio rentals gone up your materials have gone up this is what happens so you make that list and you stick to it and that is it simple as that now if you've loved this video don't forget to give me a thumbs up because that helps more artists like you to see this video and get help with their pricing too thank you so much for watching and i'll see you on the next one
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Adamawa Loot: You’re Given Until 12 Hours To Return All Items Looted – Fintiri Warns
warehouses in the state capital to return the items on before 12 p.m on Tuesday to the nearest police stations the governor said after which he will sign an executive order for a house to house search to commence at the exploration of the deadline the re-elected Governor says a putz from provision of the odor is a sanction that will attracts withdrawal of C of O and if necessary demolition of every house that happens any other stolen property will commands we must collectively corporate deal with these hoodlums who have found it convenient to break into our warehouses and look at their own convenience if we don't do this today chances are that their next destination will be our homes and businesses as a government we are conscious of our primary responsibility providing the right security to lives of property of the states and decisions web sofa arrested about 90 suspects caught in the act of this brigandage investigations are still ongoing preliminary findings from the investigation suggest that beside the purported claim to the economic crunch which is propelled by the ancient of criminality hello hope you enjoyed the news please do subscribe to our YouTube channel and don't forget to hit the notification button so you get notified about fresh news updates
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The Forest | Part One | Difficult Landing
all right everybody my name is obsidian and welcome to the forest I'm gonna be doing a new thing here so it's gonna make me want to tear my hair out but what I'm gonna be doing is every recording section I'll be recording a horror game and one non horror game come hell or high land come hell or high water so this is the forest it is a survival horror game survival being not a [ __ ] joke you have to eat meat to build shelter you got a [ __ ] fight cannibals and whoa hey son for Timmy close that [ __ ] take it with me what a [ __ ] got my camera I haven't eaten any of my generic meat product what [ __ ] ah Jesus what is this man no one is screaming I'd be losing my damn mind [Music] oh [ __ ] I'll tell you what that sure can't be good now oh [ __ ] that's a naked man standing over my son hi naked man give me my child back or just walk away I suppose then also as an option you have available to you sir [ __ ] look at me hello energy eat something or get some rest [ __ ] they're not joking look at my stomach so so uh I do plan on doing some minecraft videos at some point sorry just looking at my webcam what where'd this come from I do like that despite that crash there's still things on my food is still there I do intend on one at some point potentially doing a Minecraft series you know something really short nothing to like nuts out but um no meat but a big part of the reason but what I want to do with this is I've read I've heard rumors that this does have an ending okay so jump does that continue how do i how do i okay so up shows me my survival book this book contains instructions to build the tools and amazeen to survive alone in the wilderness basic fire okay hold on left opens turns on my lighter okay up is my survival handbook which hunting shelter okay the crux of this how do i oh no where'd my word my thing go yeah I see that I'm willing to bet money that I could cool did i okay so I need to select this gig quit there we go and one to bet then if I smack this [ __ ] hard enough there we go see now that's what that's what daddy's talking about come on so as you can see it's a lot more realistic than uh than Minecraft graphics wise you know and I know for a few people that is a really big deal for me what the [ __ ] is this okay sure for me personally I've never been oh hey bug okay so I guess that's just a thing I can do then rock yeah I've personally the graphics for Minecraft never bothered me I've always enjoyed some of the what I'm out of carrying space specifically for sticks Wow I wonder how long is this gonna take tree sap collected oh this is gonna take for [ __ ] ever fantastic I bet she just gives me like one would one would acquired what okay all right well this was a mistake so I'm gonna go ahead and drop that so I don't know that I want to be right by since I now know for a fact that there are cannibals Frick I know there are people who are the very least willing to kidnap I don't really want to take the risk of being in a place of being right by the giant explosion you know what I'm saying it doesn't seem like a smart idea to me so there is an achievement for surviving the first night which is somewhat distressing actually then I have no idea even what like I have no idea what kind of resources I should plan around and I did play this a long time ago back when it first back but it was still an alpha I think it's actually had its official release but I don't know much about the game's current state beyond the fact that I don't know much about it so what is that is that a boat I'm sure that's a boat I wonder if there are like monsters in the water or like creatures I'm pretty sure my first mission is supposed to be build a build a home spot so I'm gonna do that I don't know what if anything I need to look out for so instead of worrying about it I'm going to just do it you know if the game decides to punish me out I'll deal with it give me [ __ ] wood tree [ __ ] so crafting huh so I can build boats I need storage basic structures here are your shelters eighty two logs needed for a log cabin I'll go with a small cabin nope alright alright fine small cabin I do like what the hell is that sound I do like this relatively streamlined approach to uh to crafting each alright thank you guys so much for watching this has been obsidian we're gonna get to the next we're gonna finish building that house and go check out the beach in a cut-in in the next episode so thank you all again I'll see you next time bye bye
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Transgressing with your Mouth
all right now in psalm 17 i'm just going to be focusing in on one of the verses here verse number 3 says thou hast proved mine heart thou hast visited me in the night thou has tried me and shalt find nothing i am purposed that my mouth shall not transgress so it's really the latter part of that verse i'm going to be preaching on i am purpose that my mouth shall not transgress you see this is something that this is going to apply to everybody in the world this sermon tonight i don't care who you are there's there's we all have an issue with the words that come out of our mouth and we're gonna get i'm gonna get into this a lot more in detail but there's a lot of sinning that happens through the mouths of people and oftentimes they don't even realize it and we're gonna get into a lot of a lot of what the bible says about how we should be speaking and the things that should be coming out of our mouth now the first place that we're going to look at is um in job chapter number two you don't have to turn there if you like you could actually turn to james chapter 3 if you would james is right near the end of the new testament we spent some time in james chapter number three pretty close to the end of the bible james chapter three it's right after the book of hebrews but in job chapter two the bible reads but he said unto her and this is okay if you remember i was just just a quick synopsis of job if you remember the story of job job was a man that the bible says he was he was perfect and upright in heart there was not a man like him in all the earth basically he was the best man living in his time like just righteous i mean living according to what god wants him to do and just living a really good life and you know satan was accusing him before god and just saying oh yeah you know the only reason he's serving you and the only reason he's doing anything good is because you're protecting him you know he's saying oh you've made his life so nice yeah take away this stuff and he'll curse you that's what that's what the that's what the devil does by the way he's an accuser he's out accusing the brethren and just just speaking lies and trying to get us in trouble you know always trying to mess things up and god allows he says okay god's gonna prove job he's gonna allow this to happen and he's proving him and well so what happens is the devil give gets permission to go and and do things but he said well you know just don't don't touch job like his body just you can do whatever you want but don't don't harm job himself so he goes and job loses i mean he loses all of his wealth he is wealthy man he has livestock you know cattle all these different things loses all of it and then um and all these things happen in succession like like these people come and tell job like joe we're just out watching the flock and like this fire came down from heaven and just devoured everything and you know another guy comes and says yeah these people came and raided us and stole all your stuff and only i'm here left and it gets bad news after bad news everybody i mean just like his entire world falls apart until finally like the last one that comes is that all 10 of his children were eating in in a house in one house together and you know there's a whirlwind came and the house fell on top of them and killed all of his children and that was like the final blow and it was just like it just came boom boom boom boom boom one after another so he's hit with all this tragedy and all this sadness and just i mean his world just completely turned upside down right and the bible says even through all of that he didn't sin he didn't say he didn't charge god foolishly didn't do anything wrong so then the devil goes back to god you know god's like hey you know basically you were wrong did you see my servant job you know even after all this stuff he's he's still he still retains his integrity he's still um he's still an upright man and the devil said oh yeah well you know the stuff that he has and you know he touches you know if he touches flesh you know then then he'll curse you to your face and basically what he's saying is yeah okay when people can lose stuff and things but if you cause them to have poor health you know that'll be a different story again satan just falsely accusing job so god allows it to happen and job gets covered with boils from head to toe i mean he's just itching is just miserable he's lost everything and now he's got this this disease he's boiled all over his body you know he's just sitting and sack off and ashes and just just miserable i mean completely miserable so his wife comes up to him basically is just like you you know you still retain your integrity and she says curse god and die and that's her response to him so it's like not only does you know is everything else going wrong now his wife's like not even encouraging him at all it just really i mean as as low of a point as you can possibly get i i don't know it's a it's he went through a lot but this is what uh what we see that in job 210 this was his response to he says but he said unto her thou speakest is one of the foolish women speaketh what shall we receive good at the hand of god and shall we not receive evil in all this did not job sin with his lips so this is the first sin that i want to talk about with our lips and with our mouth is basically charging god foolishly right all of these things that happen to job is not god's fault that they happen the devil was the one attacking him okay god may have allowed it to happen he didn't step in an intervene but god wasn't the one that was that was literally putting him through this stuff and it wasn't it wasn't anything that joke did that was wrong joke was doing everything right but see sometimes we go through trials we go through temptations and god wants to really know what's in our heart and kind of prove it and makes us prove things by um by going through difficult times and if we can retain our integrity we'll come forth through but see what a lot of people do when they sin with their lips is that they will try they'll just say oh how could god you know allow this to happen and they'll start blaming god for things that happen and for sins that happen since that people commit against other people and yeah i understand there's a lot of horrible things going on out there i mean this world is full of wickedness and people are getting hurt and there's a lot of tragedies in this lifetime but it's foolish to blame it on god and to say that god's the one that's causing those things to happen and say well where is god and just you know throw up your hands and um basically just accuse god for things that happen or blame him for not stepping in i mean i know a friend that was saying well you know his girlfriend's grandfather died and said well she loved him so much and he's like i would have done anything and taken his place for him because she loved him so much how could god just allow him to die like that's like well i mean first of all everybody dies and second of all i mean you know that's just charging god foolishly you're talking to someone and doesn't understand everything that's going on and um it's something that we shouldn't do and that's what the bible is careful to say that job didn't sin with his lips because he could have sinned he could have he could have cursed god and died like his wife was asking him to do he didn't curse god he didn't he didn't blame god for the things that were happening he said he didn't know why it was happening but he wasn't just charging god i mean when he lost all his goods he said naked came into this world and naked shall i return lither you know basically you can't you know god is god is um given and god is taken away you know he he's all the things that he had he knew that god gave it to him again says every good gift every perfect give cometh down from above from the father of lights we receive good things in god's hand so god takes him away from us hey i mean he gave it to us in the first place he takes it away okay well i was doing good for a while now he's taken away fine blessed be the name of the lord and that's the attitude we ought to have instead of charging god foolishly you're in james chapter three we're gonna read a lot of this chapter look at verse number one because this talks a lot about the tongue and and about how dangerous it is and how powerful our tongues are james chapter 3 look at verse number one the bible reads my brethren be not many masters knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation for in many things we offend all if any man offended not in the word the same as a perfect man and able also to bridle the whole body so we say look if you don't offend in word you're perfect you're a perfect man if you can if you can control your mouth that much to where you're not offending in word you're a perfect man it says enable also to bridle the whole body and he explains we talked about with bridling the whole body in verse three it says behold we put bits in the horse's mouth that they may obey us and we turn about their whole body behold also the ships which though they'd be so great and are driven of fierce winds yeah they turned about with a very small helm wither so ever the governor listed so he said look you can control a horse by putting that bit in their mouth and just pull out one way or the other you can control the direction that you throw a lot of things about the horse same thing with this huge boat it's a massive vessel that goes on the cnn but the rudder i mean comparatively is really small and you just turn that a little bit this way or that and that controls the direction of this huge this huge thing so he's saying if you can control your tongue you can control the whole body you bridle your tongue and control that hey man you got control over your entire body look at verse number five it says even so the tongue is a little member and boasted great things behold how great a matter a little fire kindling now this is warning us about how powerful a tongue really can be because you think about it you know the analogy that they use the illustration that they use here is a fire right so you think about like these huge forest fires that happen out here especially like in the prescott area or arizona i mean these devastating fires that just consumed just i mean i don't even know how much land it is just acres and acres just hundreds or thousands of acres just getting burned up and you hear about how they start sometimes and they figure it out like oh it just started from a campfire it's one person having some small some small little fire in their campsite turns into this great matter this huge huge devastating forest fire that consume people's houses and people die and all you know i mean there's all this great destruction and it all started with one little fire one one little thing or a cigarette butt going out the window right i mean you hear about that happening in california they have the the brush fires on the side of the road that just consume just huge fields and i mean it's crazy so how much that little fire is and look at what it's doing here is that it's likening that to your tongue you gotta be careful of things that come out of your mouth because even a little even just some words that you don't give much thought to can can start spiraling out of control and cause a great matter and a great problem that that that kind of illustrates the power of just our mere words just the words that come out of your mouth can can have a huge impact like this look at verse number six it says and the tongue is a fire a world of iniquity iniquity sin so is the tongue among our members that it defileth the whole body and set it on fire the course of nature and it is set on fire of hell just as if you could control your your tongue control your mouth you can control your whole body hey if your mouth is speaking evil things if you don't have your mouth under control that can cause your whole body to be in sin that's going to lead you into other things i mean think about it something like the sin of fornication for example is a sin of your body but how are you going to get to that point you're going to get to it through those through those words coming out of your mouth when you start flirting with that other person and and it starts building up into something that shouldn't be hey watch your mouth you shouldn't even be getting started down that path with your mouth if you don't do that with your mouth hey you'll be able to keep your body from that extra from those sins and you can see how just a little a few words a few of the wrong words a little innuendo can go a long way and kindle a great matter watch your mouth watch the things that you say be very careful don't say things flippantly verse number seven for every kind of beast and the birds and of serpents and of things in the sea is tamed and have been tamed of mankind but the tongue can no man tame it is an unruly evil full of deadly poison again the bible uses a lot of strong language in different places about different things pay attention to those times when it uses that strong language because god's trying to call our attention hey look pay attention this this is important i mean you're you know full of deadly poison and unruly evil those are not light words it's using this to to make us be aware of this and be conscious of this truth that we need to give heed to the things that come out of our mouth and really think about these things before we open up and speak verse number 9 says therewith bless we god even the father and therewith curse we men which are made after the similitude of god out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing my brethren these things ought not so to be so he's saying look you have one mouth on once on one hand your your mouth is praising god you're blessing people you're saying good things but then out of the same exact mouth you're cursing people you're talking evil about people and he says hey these things are not so to be you ought not to be doing that it should only be the good things you shouldn't have both things coming out of your mouth verse 11 says does a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter can the fig tree my brother and bear olive berries either a vine figs so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh who is a wise man and dude with knowledge among you let him show out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom so we need to show a good conversation our works and have that meekness of wisdom wisdom is going to give you have you let you have a humble heart and will not allow you to speak boastfully or proudly and you know it's telling us here that we need to have a good conversation now go ahead and turn if you would well yeah turn if you would to ephesians chapter number five we're already there earlier this morning we're gonna read the first part of that we read the second part earlier ephesians chapter five tells us something else that we need to watch out for when we're when we're speaking and when we're talking ephesians chapter five and we start reading verse number three the bible says but fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness let it not be once named among you as becometh saints so he's talking about here we ought not to be talking about our sins whether they be presence or past i mean he's saying he says fornication uncleanness covetousness let it not be once named among you as become a saints don't be talking about the sins you've done in the past don't be reveling and glorying in your days when oh man i used to go up you should have seen the amount of women that i had does talk about all this stuff and these days when you were living in filth and fornication the bible says that doesn't become saints you're saved you're sanctified you're washed from those sins don't be glory to them don't be speaking of them don't be talking about them and honestly there's no reason to be talking about that's why when i you know i talk to people at the door and i try to relate to them and say look i've sinned too i've done wrong you know i've done some things i don't like getting into them because i don't even like rehashing the past and just talking about some of the things i used to do there's no point to it now i'll go i'll tell them a little bit just because i want to relate to them and just show them hey look i'm a sinner too i've done wrong but i'm not gonna go in there and be like oh man you should have seen the amount that i can drink and you know what people christians do that christians will boast and brag about oh man i tell you what i can hold down my liquor you know you know no one could outdrink me and all this other stuff it's nonsense it's vanity and it's foolishness we ought not to be talking about those things and that's what says in verse 4 here ephesians 5 4 says neither filthiness nor foolish talking nor jesting which are not convenient but rather giving of thanks for this ye know that no whoremonger nor unclean person nor covetous man who is an idolater had any inheritance in the kingdom of god of christ and of god let no man deceive you with vain words for because of these things come at the wrath of god upon the children of disobedience so look because of these things that you're talking about because of this you know the whoremongering and the covetousness the uncleanness the fornication hey the wrath of god is coming out of people for that don't glory but don't don't talk about them like it's like it's something cool and don't be don't even be um you know foolish talking and jesting about it don't be joking about it you know it's not a joke i i'm sick of the you know and this is this is one of the reasons why sodomy my homosexuality is accepted today is because it started off as a joke it started off being introduced on tv is is oh yeah they're just funny hahaha they're laughing we ought not to be making a joke of that wicked sin we ought not to just be laughing at it because when you laugh at it's gonna soften up your heart and thinking oh this is okay we don't joke about our sins and and the wickedness that you're like god points it out as being extremely wicked we ought not to just be making light of it by joking about it by gesting about it and by just foolishly talking about these things that's not what god has called us to do we're sanctified we're supposed to be separated from these things and keeping our conversations pure psalm 50 23 you don't have to turn there says who so offereth praise glorifieth me and him that order his conversation are right will i show the salvation of god so you're just saying we ought to be praising god that glorifies god when we praise god when we give him the credit when we talk to people you know you know things are going your way hey glory to god thanks be to god god help me with this and him that order his conversation you think about it you order it right you don't just say the first thing that that comes to mind you order your conversation you think about it and you the words that come out of your mouth have already been thought about and put into place and then in uh hebrews 13 5 it says let your conversation be without covetousness and be content with such things as you have for he hath said i will never leave the north for safety so again another thing and this was already mentioned in ephesians five what we read i'm gonna point out now though don't be talking about the things that you want that you can't have that's a sin all these things look we need to control the things that we talk about because the more you talk about it the more you're going to be thinking about it and it's kind of a cycle you're thinking about you're going to talk about it you talk about some more you'll be thinking about it and then you're going to find people to talk about you again you bring up a conversation someone else is going to come back to you and just just continue it it's going to perpetuate it and i think it's one of the reasons why it's like in the fire because when i start talking to you about something now all of a sudden i'm thinking about it and you're thinking about it you can come back to me about it and say hey i was talking to pastor rosen's and he said this and you tell someone else and you can see how just one thing one stupid thing that comes to your mind something covetous whatever it is you know comes your mind and you and you you open up your mouth and just start talking about it it's infectious it spreads it's going to get around to other people very important to watch out and and you know keep a conversation without covetousness we ought not to have a covetous heart anyways and the bible says i have abundance of the heart the mouth speaking we need to work on our hearts so that we're not these things aren't coming out of our mouth but also you know the whole the whole goal of this i'll tell you right now we're not even we're not close to being done yet but the whole goal is that i really want people to take a step back in everything that you say and have a filter in your mind before you open up your mouth and say things now there's times where emotions can run high and people can say things foolishly out of anger or out of grief or out of set i mean just there's different reasons why people end up saying things you know a lot of times people say things that are very hurtful especially in arguments and in fights people will say things they don't really mean but it can be very hurtful and that's a lack of having the proper filter on your mouth that's something that we all need to work on but i mean it's true once something comes out of your mouth you can't retract it you can't take it back it's already gone out the damage that it's that it's gonna do it's gonna do there's no taking it back once it comes out of your mouth so it's really really important to try to train yourself train your mind to have this filter so that you're not just saying anything that comes to mind and here's the thing if it means you just talk a little bit less that's okay a lot of people have a tendency to talk a little bit too much and we're gonna see what proverbs has to say about that but um at least until you can get that filter in place it's important this is this is a big deal um you know sinning with our lips the bible says in first peter 1 15 it says but as he which hath called you is holy so be ye holy in all manner of conversation all of our conversations everything we talk about ought to be holy the things that are coming out of your mouth compare it to god would god call the things that you're talking about will you say that those are holy are they clean are they separate is are the words that you're speaking and the conversations that you're getting involved with would god be okay with that would god be says i mean just think about that personally just in all manner of your conversations that's the standard that we need to use is what i'm saying right now is god gonna be angry with me for even thinking about it or talking about or saying it very good a very good level of standard to use just in general when you ever conversations first peter chapter 2 verse 11 says dearly beloved i beseech you as strangers and pilgrims abstain from fleshly lusts which war against the soul having your conversation honest among the gentiles that whereas they speak against you as evildoers they may by your good works which they shall behold glorify god in the day of visitation so bible telling us here now not only do we have to you know stay away from talking about those sins and talking about the filth and all the other things hey keep your conversation honest don't be telling lies right he wants us to be honest among the gentiles well that's what that tells us is good you know basically um you know against the against the towards the the world the unsafe because people are gonna be looking at you they know you're a christian they're gonna be looking to attack you and that's why i said like they speak against you as evildoers so they say look they're out there just they're spreading lies about you you need to keep your conversation your communication honest because then they'll have no way to reproach you they'll have nothing to say oh man yeah this guy's just a liar because they'll jump on the one thing that you say that's wrong and the you know whatever comes out of your mouth that you shouldn't be speaking they're going to jump on you and that's going to give a false a poor testimony for the lord jesus christ in the fact that they know you're saved and they hear these things that are coming out of your mouth and say oh well this person said why are they talking about that why are they lying and rather what it should be is what it's saying here that they made by your good works hey if you're doing what's right and if you're speaking what's right it says they shall behold glorify god in the day of visitation so when people come by and give them the gospel hey they can see well this is what a christian is doing you have nothing to say against them because they're living uprightly they're doing what's right there's no reproach and there's no shame given to christ's name because you're doing what's right and you're saying things that are honest second peter chapter number two talks about lots now of course lot was the man who was living in sodom and gomorrah and he was saved the bible says that he was a righteous man he was saved he believed on god but he was living in sodom he was living in that city and he was there before god raised fire and brimstone out of the that lived in that town because he was so sick and disgusted of their vile ways god poured out and destroyed an entire city because of the filth and wickedness that they had gotten into and the bible says about lot it says that and he delivered just lost saying he was a just man vexed with a filthy conversation of the wicked for that righteous man dwelling among them in seeing and hearing vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds so bible saying he was vexed his soul he had problems he was vexed he didn't like hearing about this stuff it bothered them and sickened them because their their conversation was filthy it was wicked and it bothered them a lot and here's the thing first of all don't choose to be around people that are going to be vexing your soul lot should not have been in sodom we should not have been just dwelling among all those people to where got to the point where god just reigns fire and brimstone down them if that's the case get out of there they shouldn't be your friends they shouldn't be the people you're always hanging around with and spending time with don't have don't don't be around that if you're watching a movie and something vexes your soul you hear something don't watch that garbage and it should bother you by the way when you hear filth when you hear these filthy conversations it ought to bother you it ought to bother your spirit you ought to hear those things and be like man i don't want to hear about that and don't choose to be around those conversations and you better not be the one vexing other people with your conversation it's another reason to watch what comes out of your mouth proverbs 14 9 says fools make a mock at sin but among the righteous there is favor again this goes back to one of my other points about mocking just making jokes about sin you know saying something like oh yeah i'm you know best bird's gonna go out and get drunk after service or something like that you know i realized maybe someone would say something that just trying to be funny and trying to be humorous but the bible says fools make a mocking sin it's not a mockery it's not a joke okay god is serious god has this punishment of hell on our sins it's not a laughing matter it's not something we should be joking about hey there's lots of things that we can joke about and have fun with okay i'm not trying to be a stickler and saying you can't laugh you can't have a good time you can't you don't smile don't smile that's not what i'm saying at all but we don't have to be joking about sin we don't have to be to be a fool and just making a mock out of sin because it is important it's serious i mean i wouldn't be standing up here tonight preaching this sermon if it wasn't serious i mean you know i'm preaching a sermon because it is serious i mean something that we all need to pay attention to and watch because god treats sin seriously and we ought not to be to be doing wrong by god proverbs 10 verse 18 says he that hideth hatred with lying lips and he that uttereth a slander is a fool in the multitude of words there wanteth not sin but he that refraineth his lips is wise and this is exactly what i was talking about getting that filter in place in your mind to not just speak and what it's saying here with the multitude of words so saying when people who just talk a lot a lot a lot people just just keep on talking excuse me it says they're want to not sin what wanted means it means basically there's not lacking sins there um it says but he that refraineth his lips is wise you learn how to refrain your lips learn how to say some things and not say some other things bible says then then you're wise verse 20 says the tongue of the just as choice silver and the heart of the wicked is little worth the lips of the righteous feed many but fools die for want of wisdom get that filter in place and um you know like i was saying the more the more you're flapping your lips the more likely it is that you're that you're sinning with your lips just out of the the volume of the things that are coming out proverbs um 29 11 just kind of to speak further to this point says a fool uttereth all his mind but a wise man keepeth it in until afterwards they're saying look if you're a fool you're just gonna speak out anything that's in your mind you're just gonna blah speak it out okay but it says a wise man's gonna keep it until afterwards you're gonna wait a second you're gonna think about it thank you and you're gonna keep it in until afterwards the bible says in proverbs 17 28 says even a fool when he holdeth his peace is counted wise and he that shut up his lips is esteemed a man of understanding so he's saying look if you're a fool and and you have foolish things that would come out of your mouth if you just don't say anything if you hold your peace if you don't speak the bible says you're going to be counted as someone who's wise i mean people won't know it then because in order to know that you're a fool they're gonna have to hear you speak and hear you talk and understand hey yeah that guy's a fool that guy's that guy's saying things that uh you know but if you're able to hold your piece if you're able to just just shut up for a minute and not just say the first thing that comes to your mind hey you'll be counted you'll be kind of someone that's wise um ephesian or ecclesiastes 5 3 i'm going to close on this verse it says for a dream cometh through the multitude of business and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words again i mean over and over again in proverbs talks a lot about fools and wisdom and learning knowledge and um you know our tongue is is it's it's a big deal i mean there's a lot of things that we can do with our mouth with our conversation there's a lot of power in our words more than we probably realize sometimes there's a lot that goes out i mean and there's even more power in god's word if you think about this think about the amount of power that is in god's word right it truly is wondrous when you think about god created the just in the entire creation everything the universe us the animals everything that exists with his word god spake it into existence that's how powerful god's word is all the stuff that's here today exists because of the fact that god just spake something that came out of his mouth and boom there it is god's word the bible says that god's word was made flesh god's word died for us god's word is that powerful god's word was able to become flesh become a human being die on the cross for our sins and give us salvation and give us eternal life that's how powerful god's word is and by the way it's god's word that gets people saved out of soul winning it's not our own it's not my explanation it's not it's not my own words that i bring to them the bible says it's god's word god's word is what's going to get somebody saved the seed that you're planting when you go outside it's god's word that we're planting in that person's soul and that spirit his word is powerful love says god's word is quick and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword it's able to divide under the soul and spirits be able to to pierce right to your heart god's word is powerful i mean this these words the things that are written in this book have been have been you know the reason why a lot of people go to war and kill other people and just do all things just because of words that are written in this book people hate them i mean the words that jesus spake did jesus do anything wrong to anybody i mean did he wrong any person while he lived on this earth no all he did was speak he preached he used his voice words came out of his mouth and he was killed people hated those words so much that they destroyed him they they did all kinds of evil to him and it was because of his words our words they can start fights they can get us into sin our words can cause other people to sin the things that we say we can cause other people to get into sin our words can cause a lot of damage as the bible said behold how great of matter a little fire kindleth this is why it's so important to have a filter think about the things that you say make sure that the things that you're saying are true and are right we all ought to think about these things how do they line up with the bible is what i'm saying pleasing to god is what i'm saying are things coming out of my mouth is that something that that's right is it just as the opening verse said this is why we started off in psalms right that verse says i find that verse i am purpose that my mouth shall not transgress you have to purpose it in your heart you have to decide am i going to try to tackle this problem am i going to try to watch my mouth and not sin based on the things that are coming out of my mouth it has to be purposed in your heart then you can make sure that your mouth does not transgress through the multitude of ways that it can transgress don't be talking about sin don't be joking about it don't be getting other people to sin don't be saying things that are lie so many different things we need to be careful of and watch and don't be around other people have filthy conversation because it's going to rub off on you if nothing else is going to vex your soul and that's not good for you either let's bow our heads and have a word of prayer dear heavenly father lord i thank you so much for the bible i thank you for these great warnings i thank you for the language that you use to really drive it home and to and to make us pay attention and and to look at these things carefully and look at them more closely dear lord um how you tell how you explain and and use the wonderful colorful language of of how great a matter of fire kindleth and association with our tongue dear lord it really helps us to understand how wide affecting our tongues can be and truly how much damage they can do and and also how much good they can do to your god if we're going out and speaking the right things and and preaching your word dear lord and i just pray that you please help us all to to create and maintain a filter in our minds that we can filter the things that come to our that that just pop into our head that we don't just speak them immediately um and especially in times of great emotion dear lord help us to restrain ourselves help us to be temperate and moderate and be able to control the things that come out of our mouth so that we don't say hurtful things that we don't really mean and lord all these things we pray through jesus christ's name amen
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How the Government can support technical & policy solutions to encourage lower carbon travel choices
good morning everybody and welcome to this second seminar in the series rising to the challenge what will it take to decarbonize transport um i remind you that this session will be recorded for later broadcast on the internet i do hope you've had a chance to look at the recording of the first seminar if you didn't hear it as it happened um i encourage you to do that if you if you are able to do it you'll see an excellent keynote speech from lord dieben in my words uh one of his main points was to praise the government for uh defining so many um targets for carbon uh reduction but his second point was to criticize the government for having so little evidence about how they were going to meet their aspirations and that leads us very nicely to today's session which is about what governments could and should be doing to encourage people to make lower carbon travel choices looking at the list of speakers for the day um i'm enormously impressed by what a wealth of expertise there are so many um distinguished people who are members of distinguished trusts uh and other bodies who've been researching this subject for years so many of us have been saying much the same thing for the last 20 30 years without actually um succeeding in persuading government to do very much i hope we'll have more to say on suggestions for government to push this whole thing along so let's get started i'm going to introduce now claire hague who is chief executive of green transport solutions to introduce our session thank you claire thank you very much stephen yes and um good morning everyone and welcome to the second in a series of webinars which is the publication of a manifestation and first i'd like to extend my sincerest thanks to edelshaw goddard who are kindly sponsoring these events i'd also like to thank the foundation for integrated transport who are providing grant funding to oversee the development of the manifesto and last but definitely not least um my big thanks biggest thanks to the greener transport council who are overseeing this project and without his support none of this would be happening so the purpose of the rising to the challenge series is to focus attention on the changes needed to achieve net zero and on monday um we did look at the wider economy the change is needed to the wider economy that was the focus of our first discussion now i'm going to sort of recap on a few of the conclusions from monday to sort of set the scene for today i mean it was absolutely agreed that transport is intricately bound up with every aspect of our lives and we simply cannot consider the decarbonisation of transport in isolation so there was a a clear consensus that we need an economy-wide whole systems approach i mean it was felt that the siloed nature of government often militates against the joined up approach needed and for example you know to prevent new housing developments from building in car dependency um it was seen that there was an opportunity in the forthcoming black planning bill um to create an assumption and that any planning decision should further the goal of reaching net zero so um digitalization has clearly clearly increasingly drives large parts of the economy as we've all experienced during the pandemic and it was felt on monday that we should be doing an awful lot more to capitalize on what we've learned from the pandemic in terms of you know remote working working from home but whilst also recognizing that not everyone can work from home so there would be serious social equity issues if we were to create a two-tier workforce i mean another experience from pandemic and something that commented commented very much on monday was that the massive increase we've seen in online deliveries which has really highlighted how crucially we need a more efficient system for freight and logistics and we have to get away um from this expectation of next day delivery that is just simply crazy it's not sustainable it's not going to take us to a sustainable model for freight we have to move away from that um it was also felt that we should be doing an awful lot more to harness private investment i mean the investment needed um to decarbonize transport is going to cost a lot an awful lot it will be more than we can um achieve from the fare box or the taxpayer um there was a feeling that you know there's private finance out there there is money to invest but someone one of the members commented that to some extent private finance has been left out in the cold um it was also felt that we need to do an awful lot more to support support local authorities who after all were going to be really on the ground making a lot of this happen um this is a theme which undoubtedly will come up again today but it's going to be central to our discussion on monday which where we'll be focusing on the role next monday the the role of um localism in um driving decarbonization but we also discussed um that we really reflected on monday just how profound the changes needed to required are going to need to be if we're going to succeed um it's not just about changing travel behavior we need a shift in consumer behavior we need to consume less we need to move to a more circular economy ultimately and i quote this will require a transformation of the economy and a restructuring of society in her brilliant book um the future we choose which if you haven't read i urge you to read christiana fuegares the principal architect of the 2015 paris agreement he highlights the harsh reality that to have even a 50 chance of success we have to cut global greenhouse gas emissions by a half their current levels by 2030 by half again by 2040 and then zero by 2050. she says that a change of this magnitude and i'm quoting directly now from her book will require a major transformation in almost every area of our lives attempting to change while we are informed by the same state of mind that has been predominance in the past will lead to insufficient incremental changes in order to open the space for transformation we have to change how we think and fundamentally who we perceive ourselves to be i mean clearly the scale of change needed um is going to be at times uncomfortable for the public um it will certainly present challenges for politicians um and it was reflected reflected on monday that we're going to need to appeal to people in their role as citizens not just as consumers so as stephen has already mentioned today we're going to be examining more closely the role of central government um there is currently a worrying lack of engagement um with the public by central government which is especially concerning when we consider that to some two-thirds of future emissions reductions are going to rely on individual choices and behaviors i mean all the easy wins in terms of decarbonizing the power sector have happened so we're now on to the hard stuff um there are concerns that government policy is failing to match up to his restroom because stephen has already mentioned i mean lord even concluded that you know we should absolutely praise government for these full setting world-leading targets which undoubtedly send a clear signal to the rest of the world we do need to celebrate that but these targets are not credible without matching delivery plans now today um we're going to be looking particularly at the role of behavior change i mean there's a heavy reliance in government policy on technology solutions and we had these targets and that's all great however we will still need a significant reduction in traffic on our roads so the scottish government has pledged a 20 cut in car kilometers by 2030 should the uk government be much doing something similar do we need a government target along those lines for the uk as a whole pricing is going to be key so every mode of transport should be priced according to its environmental impact i mean it should be cheaper to use public transport than to drive and to fly but as we all know too often that is not the case but crucially this has to be achieved while ensuring a fair and just transition to net zero and the yellow invest process in paris are a good illustration of how the public will react to a measure that it doesn't perceive to be fair so what sort of mitigation measures would we would make increasing fuel duty acceptable and prevent it from being perceived as a regressive tax hike it's clear that electric vehicles are not a panacea and this is absolutely very very much agreed on monday i feel this is this is something that we're interested in views today but this is a strong a strong sense that you know the problem with relying on technological solutions without giving insufficient um sufficient ex focus on behavior change is that we run into the problem with rebound effects so we saw increases in um transport emissions post 2013 with the sizeable improvements you know if vehicle efficiency being eroded by the trend to larger vehicles and rising demand for car and van trouble and moreover if we electrify the car fleet without replacing fuel duty road traffic could increase by an additional 30 percent as the cost of running a car fall dramatically has the time finally come to implement national road user charging how does the government take the public with it on the journey to net zero um and you know what will be the role of deliberative democracy what can we learn from citizens assemblies will nudges be enough or do we need to start a big open conversation with the public that was very much the view on monday um i think shared by almost all i think it was paul campion that made the point that um to successfully do this we need better stories so i'm sure there'll be plenty of views on this today i'm really looking forward to hearing from the panel um these are just really just some of the questions we're going to be exploring in this second session which will focus very much on the technical and policy solutions needed um if government is going to encourage people to make lower carbon travel choices so thank you all very much for joining and i look forward to our discussion [Music] you're on meet stephen i'm so glad to be the first person to say that somebody did that to me thank you claire look two details um you mentioned just in your remarks just now today is about central government which it is but uh of course we're not excluding local government and regional government from this because i think we all understand they have to be part of the story um and we will be giving some more attention to regional and local government in the uh session next week uh second um i've had a request for the exact reference to the book you cited just now yes so um and and actually we can uh i'm not very good at putting it it's it's it's um the future we choose um cristiano foreign um and was published literally just this year i mean i think it came out a couple of months ago um is that enough thank you well perhaps it can be put in writing somewhere in in the yes in the session thank you yes i'll put it in when i i'll put it i'll put it in when we finish chatting stephen right now we are due a keynote speech from hugh merriman mp um he's not able to join us in person today because he's been called the house of commons he has promised us a video version of his speech but it's not um ready to show you just yet so i'm going to move straight on to the first panel discussion and hopefully we can have the video um when we've got to the end of that so first of all uh an old colleague a friend of mine um professor phil goodwin who's now a senior fellow at the foundation for integrated transport phil uh thank you very much stephen um here's the problem we've got for over 30 years we've been agreeing policy statements about reducing transport contribution to co2 production and to climate change and during that period the amount of co2 emitted by transport has increased and that's because i think good long-term intentions have always been subverted by short-sighted decisions on resource allocation and on infrastructures climate change is now with us and its future will be determined by what happens in the rest of this decade not what happens in the build up to 2050 and what follows it seems to me is three consequences first immediacy the flagship electrification of vehicles through new sails makes little difference at all in the next 10 years carbon vehicles are themselves getting bigger and last too long that's why overall traffic vehicle miles traffic will have to reduce as well so the main test now of a successful long-term plan is the radical measures which can have the biggest effect in the shortest time period and there's one clear winner on that front speed limits 20 miles an hour default for towns and 60 for motorways gets huge benefits for very little cost concerning cycling and walking the main constraints are regulation and enforcement which if there is political will can be faster than new infrastructure allocation of road capacity enforcement on illegal behavior restrictions on access for polluting for the most polluting vehicles all can be done swiftly i'll say again if there is political will without that of course we're lost anyway second consistency don't adopt parking policies which undermine traffic policies or price structures which embed car dependence a full road pricing system has always been described as 10 years away for at least the last six decades but taxes have changed every year every year in which the money cost of car use is so much less than its social cost so much less than public transport fares is a contribution to making climate change worse not better so tax carbon it's easy this can raise more money than increasing national insurance contributions more equitably more beneficially and the first stage fossil for fuel for transport just as swiftly third the effect of climate change on transport the levees in new orleans worked this time and were a tribute to a massive civil engineering investment but the new york subway system failed catastrophically and the whole system closed down climate change does not only affect sea levels it also affects storms or water flows rivers canals runoff and indeed water supply drainage and sewage we will need civil engineers and infrastructure investment but for protection not for road schemes designed for futures which are no longer possible transport has to be flexible able to respond swiftly to emergencies and to contribute both to limiting the extent of climate change and being able to operate in changed climate conditions and therefore mass transport will i think become even more dependent on buses whose routing and services are inherently flexible but need to be higher quality more reliable and cheaper there will be new rail systems especially in cities where they are vital but i'd say that we might need to be very wary of tunneling for obvious reasons trends not metros therefore more reallocation of road space uh finally just to comment on the new carbon appraisal values they admit that carbon has been drastically undervalued and that admission is very welcome but appraisal values are not prices they're still lower than the value of the damage caused and they are only one of a dozen other embedded barriers against taking proper account of incl of climate change in appraisal so the new values won't make a big difference to the actual projects chosen unless the other barriers are tackled at the same time that's my five minutes stephen thank you very much and over to the next um thank you phil uh the the the carbon values you were just referring to are the ones published within the last few days by the by bays in their um official values to be used in project appraisal within government i've just had occasion to look at that document it it's a really excellent document it does show that there are parts of government who absolutely understand how to go about calculating a sensible price for carbon the difficult of course is that it's not greatly used in practice by other parts of government in my view and secondly your point about um the speed with which taxes and charges can be changed if there is a will at the highest level of government is really very well made and you only have to look at what happened last night in the house of commons how to to see how quickly action can be taken if there is a will at the highest level within government as distinct from changing the vehicle technologies and land use planning all of that stuff which is good good to do but will take decades to have much effect anyway thank you phil uh our next um speaker is luke ravenscroft who is the lead director of energy environment and sustainability in the behavior insights team the main point i want to make is on the use of behavior change um i think sometimes we sort of get caught and i probably not for a lot of people in the school but get caught into the trap of thinking about the possible options for decarbonizing you know is it technological adoption is it legislative change or is it behavior change and thinking about these things is quite different and i really think i sort of argue against that and i think you know the ccc themselves say that it's about nearly two-thirds of the emissions we need to avoid will involves some sort of behavior change but the truth is a lot of that is the combination of behavior and and the technological adoption but i really think sort of behavior change can really offer i think a lot on on three different sort of levels one is supporting the big policy decisions you know the title of the uh the talk has taxes in so supporting those kind of decisions then supporting the technology technological change it's not just making it available and and the price okay it's going to make people suddenly adopted and and the final part is on on the public and bringing the public support and understanding kind of alongside um so yeah i think taking those in turn i mean taking the policy design i think a lot of the challenges a lot of people are sort of talking in today's session and and then the last one about introducing a new attack or or a new policy but there's a lot of political challenges which come attached to those and i think trying to understand those barriers and and i think behavioral science can offer answers those questions indeed i think when the when the sugar tax was being considered two of the big challenges that were put forward it's not really going to change anyone's behavior and therefore it's really going to hurt poor people particularly and be regressive and the second was it's going to lose businesses a lot of money and indeed a set of experiments so the both of those things weren't true and indeed kind of help support the reducing the barriers and the same goes for you know if you think about the subsidies brought in for let's say electric vehicles is it better to bring them across the board or would it be better to bring them more pronounced for for businesses um because we know fleet vehicles you know they turn into second-hand cars quicker and most people the vast majority of people buy second-hand cars and that when i spoke to people that is one of the big barriers that the cost is very high at the second-hand level so really there's one kind of like what are the questions the barriers or the research questions on the introduction of money the levies that people are suggesting the second is on technology adoption and really kind of the interaction between behavioral interventions or what we might think of as behavioral interventions and getting the technology that makes it stick and indeed one kind of one of the most famous behavioral interventions in in this area is you know what oh power did where they send you it's very familiar they send your reports in your energy consumption is high and you know much higher than your neighbors now this moment for a long time and the great thing about it being implemented for a long time is we can now go back and see what really happened and indeed what they've done is they've looked at of all the places that's been intervention what happens when people move house so when someone moves house do we see that the effect of those behavioral intervention disappears which would make sense if people were lowering their heating turning the lights off making these kind of small behavioral adjustments but actually what they see is about half of the effect remains and that's because people fundamental changes to their households so we see when the next household takes over indeed the energy reduction holds and i think that's an interesting example for how we try to get behavioral interventions that will interact with technology and get people to take on a new form and then that structure adjustment means those changes will stick and that's obviously kind of what we want um and then but the final point i make is on on the public i think a lot of people have seen kind of increased engagement uh willingness around the public on climate change you see that from the latest hipsters what we study pwc one we've done our own which shows people are increasingly uh worried about climate change and willing to change their behavior including on transport itself um but we still see we still see it lagging kind of in three really important ways and again i think this is where behavior change can help one is action you know we we've talked about that with the government but we see that with people as well um people report a strong willingness to make changes but but only 50 of people have made any actions the to change the life of sport climate in the last six months and that's no different exactly the same from 2019 so we haven't seen the the action come along but the second one is on um on sort of norms themselves so if you speak people whether they support further action on climate change 74 percent of others support this they say 60 of people so people are out there believing that they indeed support climate change but most other people do do not um and that gap is something that really can can be addressed to get kind of further support attached um so i think i think there's kind of a number of elements where behavior changes can play of course that does not negate the the sort of more traditional approaches for reducing demand for let's say aviation or modal shift but i really think the important thing here is to think about behavior changes supporting the other tools because otherwise we end up in a sort of trapped in a conversation where people think the behavior change behavioral interventions are kind of being used as cover to a degree because they will be smaller than making some of the big big important changes i really would argue the opposite that when it's well designed it can support those big changes to really make them effective and not you know not backfire not sort of be badly designed not bring the public with it um yeah that's uh that's to make that's what i would like to say thanks a lot thank you luke um i i hope um everyone's able to hear that your bandwidth is a little bit um low but uh at the the audio was fine now our next speaker is um greg archer who is uk director of transport and environment um greg am i right in saying that transport environment is a not-for-profit pan-european think-tank is that a fair description of the organization very fair description thank you for the introduction well thank you for inviting me this morning i think it's fair to say that technology is now evolving at such a pace it will enable transport to fully decarbonize by 2050 but even the speed of the shift which we're experiencing at the moment is not fast enough to enable us to meet our interim climate targets we've simply started too late and as uh as phil said the build-up of electric vehicles on our roads will simply be too slow so alongside what our good government policies to accelerate the shift to electric vehicles incentives for people to make that transition regulations for the car industry to require them to supply those vehicles and the investment in infrastructure to enable that transition to happen we also need an equivalent amount of government effort in terms of reducing our car use as well and the steps which need to be taken in terms of encouraging that reduction in car use are much the same as the ones which need to be which have been introduced to encourage electric vehicles and the first step we need government to actually acknowledge this must happen and set itself its own targets in order to actually measure its progress in reducing car use secondly it needs to then transpose those targets down to a local authority level so local authorities are then charged with delivering that reduction in car use uh you know that the government says is required and then thirdly we need to start to make the investments which are needed to actually enable that transition to happen and to send the right pricing signals to enable to encourage people to make the shift but to get drivers out of their cars we cannot simply price them off the road for far too long green groups have argued that all we need to do is hike prices and people will change their behavior well i'm sorry but it's not going to happen because our ministers our mayors and our councillors will not be willing to commit political suicide in doing so and making car use uh inherently unattractive so what we have to do is actually rather than making car use more difficult we have to level up the kind of services which are available through public transport and to make public transport and active travel a better alternative than using the car and above all for active travel that means making it much safer and providing secure places where people can leave their increasingly expensive bikes particularly if those are electric bikes suitable for longer trips and for our public transport system it means enhancing the quality and reliability of that public transport service i was recently told a story about a change in copenhagen where they introduced a fleet of electric buses with comfortable seats and wi-fi and good public information systems as to where those buses were and now people actually wait for an electric bus on the route uh an extra 10 minutes rather than to get onto a bouncy smelly diesel bus and as a result ridership levels on the buses in copenhagen have risen as a result so this successful transition is not about a competition between behavior change and technology it's about the interface between technology and behavior change and policy in order to drive the right sorts of transitions now in our towns and cities there is really little choice but to reallocate road space away from cars towards bikes and buses and trams and so forth but if we try to do that now with our roads entirely clogged uh particularly during periods we will inflame public opinion in the way that local transport local transport neighborhoods have done so our first step must be to bring down the numbers of cars on our roads quickly by tackling some of the key causes of congestion by rolling out much more expensive sorry much more extensive school travel planning to reduce that car that school travel commute encouraging car sharing encouraging more school buses and giving local authorities the resources to make sure that they can put those plans in place and schools the resources to coordinate that work we need to work with major employers to encourage them to do much more with car sharing for their employees to reduce the number of cars traveling and commuting to work every day and if we can quickly reduce the number of cars commuting during peak periods then i think we can much more safely shift road space to more safe bike lanes more bus lanes that will then then enable those buses to quickly speed through our towns and actually offer a faster service than traveling by car and all the evidence points to the fact that if the bus is faster than the car then a lot more people will be willing to get onto it in our rural areas i think we need to be far more imaginative about the way in which we operate our buses on-demand buses on-demand taxis that take people from their isolated villages connect them to a fast bus service a regular bus services between major towns is the right approach we can no people no longer want to sit on a slow bus operating a few times a day trundling from villages to village we need to start thinking more imaginatively about how we deliver public transport in our rural areas and we need to support the shift to electric bikes in particular by providing secure parking for those electric bikes at bus stops in rural areas to encourage people to cycle to the bus stop and they know that they can safely leave their buying and finally i think it is really important that we recognize that our rail service needs to be much more efficient the the reality is that rail consumes over 50 percent of our transport budget and yet actually provides only about 10 percent of the passenger kilometer trips we have to find ways of making our trains more efficient and cheaper not just by giving them yet more subsidy but by finding ways to drive costs out of the system so that they are really a credible alternative to families who otherwise will continue to use their cars because the train is simply too expensive road pricing will have a very important role in this process it will make people aware of the costs of individual trips and it's therefore essential it will be an essential part of the mix but there's an awful lot we can do before we introduce road pricing in order to make our public transport services better to make it more attractive for people to walk and to cycle and in particular to find alternatives to single people in our cars if we do these things then i believe that we can make a much more rapid transition encouraging people out of their cars and complement that with the shift to electric cars thank you for listening thank you greg um you ex you expressed some skepticism about the use of pricing because in your words uh politicians would not be able to not be willing to commit suicide do you think that in in the light of what we heard from luke ravenscroft public attitudes might be changing rapidly enough for that not to be the case i mean even in 2003 ken livingston introduced congestion charge uh it was very concerning at the time but actually it did not turn out to be political suicide for ken and that's because there was actually a large uh body of agreement amongst the london population on electorate uh about the need for it they saw the point even then i think what ken livingston did though in in the three years before he introduced the congestion chart was to invest a massive amount in the bus services of london to really increase um bus patronage and and bus services so he had readied the the population of london for that transition and provided an alternative to them i don't think we can simply hike prices uh for driving unless we have put in place really good alternatives for those people to use yes i do think there is an an important role for pricing um and and i do support the shift to a road pricing system that prices both congestion and the type of vehicle that you're driving and the place that you're driving but i don't think we should see it as a panacea but we can just price drivers off the road we have to provide better alternatives to them first and then there will be more acceptance of those uh higher charges which inevitably will have to come yeah so you're saying in a different way what i think i would always say you one should never ever get trapped into talking about a price or a tax change in isolation you have to present a package where you're clear about what's going to happen to the revenues and that that the public can see a package which in some sense at least some of them will will find attractive as a package that's the thing from just paying attacks where you didn't pay one before um thank you we must we must move on now um we we're now going to hear from susan moyer who is the partner into infrastructure projects and energy for adolfshor goddard now susan um shaw goddard are a um a business law firm is that a fair description business law firm would be a fair description yes and we have a we operate along a sector approach one of our key sectors is transport which we're very involved and hence why we're involved in this session today so um yeah so anyway thanks thanks steven and i'll just kick off i suppose what i would say is and many of the speakers i think monday and today have highlighted that in terms of decarbonising transport and we now have lots and lots of policy and no shortage of ideas but what we are short of is action and delivery and that we're running out of time so my reflection on this i suppose from a lawyer's perspective is something of an ode to local government highlighting just how important local government is going to be when it comes to actually delivering low-carbon travel choices in a net zero economy i think that's a thought that many and that have been on these two webinars have have also agreed with an example which i i would like to use to illustrate this is the fantastic work which has been carried out by clients of adult show goddard aberdeen city council to deliver the council's vision of aberdeen city as a world-class low-carbon economy now the phrase you hear over and over again when discussing how to actually deliver low-carbon transport schemes is chicken and egg and it goes something like this we want to make the investment which is needed to supply low carbon fuel such as hydrogen but the demand has to be there before we can raise the finance and then in response you'll get but we can't invest in new hydrogen vehicles until we know the supply will be there and the price point will be good at which point most of us put our heads in our hands and wonder how we'll ever get to net zero but this is not not local government i would suggest over the last few years local government has been working hard studying the policies that have come out from central government developing their sustainable energy action plans and other net zero plans and applying for funding for central government to deliver those plans but i would suggest most critically of all they have come to realize that to win the big prize the nirvana of a low carbon economy for their region local government must be both the chicken and the egg so what does this mean in aberdeen city's case this has meant the council being the first mover in both the demand and the supply sides of the nascent hydrogen economy in the city the council has worked with the local bus company to obtain funding to subsidise a fleet of hydrogen buses whilst at the same time the council has procured the hydrogen supply required to fuel those buses at an economic price point performing the function of both the chicken and the egg and now with those acorns sewn the council is moving on to the next stage by inviting the private sector to work in partnership with the council to take the hydrogen economy in the region to the next stage what aberdeen council has recognized in my view is that it must be the catalyst for investment in the city's hydrogen production infrastructure by investing in the vehicles that will create the demand for hydrogen fuel whilst at the same time investing in the hydrogen supply infrastructure alongside its strategic private sector partner to ensure the supply will be economically viable in addition to this supply and demand investment the council has also recognized the value which the public sector brings to the party when it shares with the private sector its understanding of central government policy and how it will be implemented sharing this understanding really helps the private sector to join the dots and to get to grips with both the opportunity and the risks associated with low carbon schemes and how those risks might be mitigated all of which has to be articulated in any good investment case for example a simple example how low emission zones in scotland cities will drive the switch to low carbon fuels and will bake that switch into transport infrastructure going forward so accepting the local government working in partnership with the private sector is going to be critical to delivering a low carbon delivering low carbon transport the final point i would make is this along with the chicken and egg problem the other roadblock we as lawyers often encounter in our discussions with clients is how to structure these partnerships yes the concept of a public private sector partnership is not new but many partnerships in the past have in reality be nothing more than glorified works or services contracts the public sector paying for the delivery of a worker service delivered by the private sector but the context in which we are working here demand something much more something much more sophisticated what is required is a real partnership or joint venture between the public and private sector where both parties are engaged in creating the cardinal carbon economy which will be necessary to deliver net zero so the question becomes what does that partnership look like and to answer that question the following issues have to be considered and addressed firstly the public sector's contribution to the partnership has to be understood and valued secondly the risk allocation between the parties has to be developed and may involve the public sector taking more or a different type of risk than they're used to taking due to the nascent state of the market which the partnership is trying to develop thirdly the public sector's return on that investment has to be properly considered and defined to what extent should the public sector participate in the returns from the partnership as the market develops and matures and finally how are these arrangements structured so that they comply with procurement law and subsidy control requirements how should local government evaluate proposals from the private sector what does good look like and how can it be evaluated when what we are procuring is a strategic partnership and not a road a bridge or a tram none of these issues are easy but the more we think about them and the more we start to develop models around them then the easier it will it will become to engage private sector in the low carbon economy at a local level stark in his widely reported speech last week emphasized that net zero would require a huge amount of private sector investment i believe local government is key to unlocking that investment and those authorities that can find the political will and drive to innovate in the way they work with the private sector hold the key to developing the low-carbon economies which will be required to deliver net zero thank you thank you susan so what you're describing there is a local authority doing what government really should do that's taking a lead and putting the institutional agents in place to make a market work when it wouldn't uh with without help and as you say one of the biggest issues is who is going to bear the ultimate commercial risk of this um because there is always a big commercial risk um do you see any role for what role do you see for the new national infrastructure bank which um the westminster government have set up i think with that kind of issue in mind finding a way of defraying the commercial risks of this kind of partnership i think they've i mean obviously got a big role to play and i think we're already seeing in scotland with the scottish infrastructure bank which is already you know the scottish bank which has already been set up that they clearly have a role in in financing um some of these schemes however i think probably what i would say is um when they're approaching some of these schemes they're also going to have to adopt perhaps a different approach from the approach that's been um adopted when people have been financing um you know projects in the past the the financing model needs to be developed to to reflect you know the the nature of the market the what the risks that are associated with developing those markets to make it to make it uh work to develop workable models and workable solutions because quite often there's not a massive amount of money involved in these schemes yeah but one of the issues to be clarified i think is is the extent to which these infrastructure banks are ways of funding or just simply financing you know is is there real new public money coming in through the route of the banks or is it like the world bank used to be just a way of of balancing its books over time but providing short-term finance thank you the next speaker is professor gillian annabelle who's professor of transport energy at the university of leeds is jillian prepared to continue of course thank you very much stephen thanks everyone um start off on a uh strange note maybe um and and tell everyone that i'm actually really angry um i'm angry actually even the speakers so far on this webinar i'm angry then by implication by association probably with the listeners to this webinar and i'm angry with myself as well um and there are two main reasons for that and they're related so the first one is that that so far really only phil has predicated what they've had to say on the fact that we only have this decade before we have blown it um and in my view everything that everyone says should be qualified with respect to the degree to which it meets uh what we need to do over the next 10 years and that is economy-wide a 68 reduction in emissions by 2030 transport has so far done zero so it has one decade to achieve 40 years worth of carbon reduction aviation isn't going to do that within the sector hgvs aren't going to do that with the sector it really does only come down to cars that's almost a three-quarters reduction by 2030 and yet all we have at the moment is a change in 2030 um with some incremental change between now and then the second reason is related uh to this immediacy issue as phil put it because it's around that it's all about in my view how wrong we have got and still have got any concept any understanding any notion of what it means when we talk about behavior change and one of the main reasons i'm really angry with myself is because i'm known as some kind of expert on travel behavior change so in essence i've perpetuated the myth that behavior change is some separate science some separate set of understandings some separate set of interventions that we need to understand and get right and out there uh forever and still are people calling for more understanding of what changes behavior this is utterly ridiculous behavior changes every day every decade every year it has changed we know how to change behaviour it is not a matter of separating pricing from behavior change intervention regulation from behavior change intervention technology from behavior change interventions they are all behavior change interventions they are how behavior changes there is no separate art there and and the idea that we uh we we start to reduce behavior change to something that emanates from individuals who have power to change when all the time let alone the fact we're in an era now where we have to have the scale of change to achieve uh that we now do uh that that the individuals have any kind of real real control over the these these big um changes that that have to be made is utterly obscene um so the title of this webinar is to uh what is it again encourage people to make lower carbon choices it's not a dark art it's not some taboo it's not a matter of uh reducing people into those with the right set of information and knowledge and attitudes and those that haven't the good people who are behaving properly and the bad people who aren't behaving properly it doesn't matter it does matter but very important that people understand climate change that they are concerned about it but that in itself is only helpful in that it it will allow politicians to get on board with the idea that there can be some public acceptability but whilst the government is saying that that behavior hasn't got to change we can carry on as normal um this is actually i think as greg archibald said going to inflame public opinion it's going to confuse public opinion confusion is actually as glenn said actually in the webinar on monday um the the intention of many decision makers is actually in their favor in in many respects one of the uh what a really important study uh that has has been brought together very recently and i can circulate the paper from some eminent behavioral scientists in the field of what's called pro-environmental behavior so not just mobility behavior has done an absolutely fabulous meta analysis of many many types of research to understand what changes behavior and they have really just concluded what we've known from all these individual studies and yet seems to be completely ignored when we talk about behavior um as though we've got to inform people and change attitudes that the main obstacle to behaviour change is when people do not believe that their individual behavior will make a difference i am really really upset at the moment when i'm hearing people say that out of the pandemic people are ready for change they're ready for radical change they're going to continue the little bits of change that they've undertaken around their mobility behaviors during the pandemic the way it happened during the pandemic was that the government had a crisis mentality it implemented legislation that we all had to comply to people believed that with a few exceptions everyone was going to have to do the same there were some compensatory measures for certain people involved uh in having to do some of the the largest changes to behaviour none of these things are in place and without that common ground that urgency that idea that there are interventions that will impact everybody equally behaviour will not change thank you thank you julian um point well made clearly made i was just as you were speaking trying to think of examples um where emergency has caused behavior change you mentioned one covid is as you said within a matter of weeks there was legislation massive change of behavior i suppose the beginning of the second world war would be one where lots of regulations were brought in quite quickly um which fundamentally changed the way people live their lives are there others the one that the one that springs to mind is 1970s oil crisis particularly in the states we had a reduction in speed limits uh phil mentioned speed limits uh certainly one what's something we could implement quickly as a result the international energy agency actually published off the back of the 1970s oil crisis a report called saving oil in a hurry where it identified a whole set of of measures such as speed limits and others uh working from home back then was one of them that could be implemented quickly should we have another oil crisis um so that so there are some of those things but the real key is with that you know we can talk about what happens in the crisis but we have to then um and with climate change we have to talk about implementing things that are going to sustain and if you look at the government's decarbonisation plan for transport there is one graph in there it's very fuzzy it has no data behind it separate set of gripes um that suggests that the only way in which we even have a hope in transport the transport sector of getting anywhere near the 2030 and 2050 targets is if the behavior change that happened last year in transport is sustained and yet even before they published the report we know that that behaviour has floated back up in many respects pandemic levels so it needs policy that stays not just temporary thank you excellent um so our next uh speaker is um andy eastlake who is chief executive of xenapa zemo partnership um this i think andy was what we used to know as low cvp isn't it which is a not-for-profit independent partnership is that the correct description absolutely stephen yes go ahead thank you very much and thank you very much to uh claire and the team uh for giving me this platform um i'm i'm not angry um and i certainly don't want to be on the wrong side of julian when she's angry either um so i absolutely concur with her in terms of some of the points around not treating this as a crisis i think uh you know even ten years we're talking about a tenure that in in a lot of psyche isn't regarded as uh the near-term crisis uh that we saw with covid i'm actually encouraged um i think i've been working in this space uh probably a similar amount of time to jillian but i'm actually encouraged because i feel that there is more energy and more appetite for change than we've potentially seen over that whole period and certainly the level of activity that we're we're finding in relation to government work uh is uh certainly ramped up at the moment um but i think you know that's not to say that uh we've got this sorted by any means whatsoever there is absolutely a need to continue to focus and i think i want to just pick up on probably four key aspects that i think are critical in trying to move us forward um i think those are the metrics that we use i think our approach and an inertia in the systems um i think our approach to risk is is probably a key problem and i believe communications are a fundamental issue that we still need to uh overcome so just to touch on those very briefly um the metrics i think are a key piece of the problem we've spoken about uh and actually in the original plan for a plan the setting the challenge for decarbonisation of transport there was a specific mention in the forward about creating new metrics to help people understand the impact of their journeys and their behavior and actually looking at the transport decarbonisation plan itself published in july those the development of those metrics seems to have gone a little bit a little bit absent if you like but i genuinely think that we need to get a much better handle on how we measure success at the moment the automotive industry measures success around the number of vehicles it makes and the profit it makes the charge point industry around the number of charges that they put in and there's drive for metrics of high numbers of charges but if those aren't being used if those aren't actually delivering low carbon transport and miles with lower grams per kilometer impact we failed and perhaps those metrics need to be uh need to be reviewed i think that's also part of the problem between the silos between different government departments and their perhaps conflicting priorities business and industry obviously successive industry success of our automotive industry is a measure for the bay's department uh the department of transport does have the responsibility for the carbon from the tailpipe of vehicles but not the well to tank elements that sits back in in bays of course and then of course the air quality is actually a death of responsibility and some of the things that we do at the moment are you know the metrics that we use do conflict across those different departments so i believe there's a a real need and we are seeing some of that with with some of the joint uh stakeholder groups the the the the jack you air quality joint between defer and dft osev which is a base and dft combination those are starting to break down those boundaries but where we come to things like hydrogen hydrogen strategy there are certainly some conflicts between the different departments and indeed hydrogen a great example of where the metrics may not yet be sophisticated enough we measure the greenhouse gas impact and we need to be really really focused on that in terms of tailpipe but we're not looking at the energy consumption and some of our work within zemo is trying to change that narrative about looking at not only greenhouse gas but also energy consumption this is going to be an energy problem very much going forward um the next point what i want to talk about is really inertia i think we have inertia in our industry changing things overnight is really really difficult changing an industry from making combustion cars to electric cars changing an energy industry from powering 99 of our vehicles with fossil fuels to powering them with low carbon or zero carbon solutions of those and possibly one of the quickest impacts we can make is actually decarbonizing the fuels that we use so to me you know an aggressive approach on decarbonizing the fuels in the existing fleet is actually one of the things that can make a near-term difference between now and 2030 uh where as jillian absolutely well highlighted you know the the electrification of the fleet is going to take longer than that we're not going to be able to change that overnight and replace the fleet that we've got uh in that sort of period of time so i think inertia but there's also what i'll call behavioral inertia um it is actually difficult people do what they've done and carry on doing it unless they get a shock to the system the pandemic was a shock to the system uh evolution of behavior is very natural we evolve in terms of things but but the sort of impact of the crisis we face requires a step change in behavior and that behavioral inertia is something we've really got to overcome risk i think is a key problem and i would like here to sort of if you like compare and contrast the approach that government take to risk of technology where innovate fund a range of different uh innovations and technologies and they regard success if some of those don't actually make it some of them we learn and if you like fail fast and learn quickly sort of approach now that isn't the approach we take to policy development the risk taking in policy development is very very conservative small c and perhaps we need to be more ambitious let's try some things out they may not always work they may get some heckles up but we've got to take more ambition and therefore more risk in the way that we approach policy taking and perhaps move faster perhaps not with all of the answers in place uh we've had a series of announcements of targets and a series of announcements of consultations to develop the plans there's been a lot of discussion around and lord demon on monday mentioned that we we you know really welcome the targets that are being set but where are the plans behind them and those plans are being thought through and lots of head scratching and consultation now that's not to say we shouldn't do some of that but we've got to be far more agile about that process and the last point i wanted to pick up on was really communications i think the communications industry as a whole has to share a significant piece of uh the challenge and if you like the blame the the the the way that we are regurgitating uh what in within the electric vehicle injury fud um you know really sort of um falsehoods and uncertainty and doubt you know promoting uh promoting all of these uh old perspectives about what the electric vehicle is or isn't and how clean or green it is uh greg archer had a very good blog recently uh under the green alliance banner and uh you know picking up on one of the the recent um appg reports uh which really captured a certain amount of media attention but you know up to my mind really didn't help the debate and really undermined what we're trying to do and i think the communications and the appetite for sensational headlines and clickbaits i think is a key part of the problem and and something that we should really try and address that will help us convince people and encourage the market and provide robust metrics robust information that will move us forward so i think it's those those are some of the key areas that i think we really can help and where government potentially can play a role in moving us forward uh into the sort of changes we need to see in the near term thank you andy um i i'm told that the video is ready but what i suggest is that we let this session continue to the end and then run the video after that and we should have a bit of time for general discussion after the video so can we continue with anna rothney who is principal transport planner from at mcdonald's well known to us all as a company they're managing management engineering and development consultancy annie anna thank you steven thank you um i just want to start by saying how happy i am to be here and whilst i'm not as esteemed as a lot of my colleagues on the call um i think it's so important to bring in some perspective from quite a different generation i think and um i haven't heard the word generation come up much actually in any of the talks so far and i think that as a relatively young person i see that there's so much potential for preventing a lot of the behaviors that we're talking about needing to change in the future and i find myself getting as angry probably to jillion levels um looking at a lot of my peers going through the process of almost falling into the trap of car dependency at this age where you're kind of making those sort of decisions as to whether you want to buy a car and kind of take that that route or i'm probably more of an extreme case of very much trying to avoid owning a car but my main frustration is things like fares act as such a big barrier for people who have very different motivations so a lot of my peers are very motivated by money you know they want to find the cheapest option and as phil mentioned pricing structures are kind of maintaining the car dependence they make it seem as though owning a car is much less expensive than a lot of the alternatives that there are out there as you may be able to tell him from scotland i have never been so happy in my life to see the announcement about the new lumo service which is a low-cost alternative to flying between london and edinburgh usually it would cost me hundreds of pounds to travel by train to scotland this is now like a super cheap alternative and i'm now able to convince my peers to take that option rather than alternatives because it's cheaper and they're more likely to be to be motivated by that so i feel like fear fares really need to be enticing they need to entice people into using alternatives and rather than seeing that as making fairs cheap as a subsidy i feel like it's so much more of an investment in social environmental and economic outcomes as well because you're really opening up their kind of alternative travel options to wider audiences and that yeah that have a various level of um means i guess and i just want to touch finally on the fair side of things with mobility as a service one of my pet peeves is when people kind of squash the concept of mass as being all newfangled or you know not going to work and things i need mobility as a service mobility services how do i travel i don't own a vehicle i need mobility as a service the kind of more futuristic view of mass is kind of this overarching system that allows you to pay and everything i think could really be successful if it offers good discounts and bundles that are really appealing to people as an alternative so they can see oh i don't have to rely i don't have to become dependent on the car because i have those alternative options and i can see that i'm saving money i'm getting discounts on e-scooters and whatever else i want to use and then i just wanted to touch on um claire mentioned those rude users are charging earlier and for me like i really question what is the ultimate objective like i think that you can slap attack some people but if it's not clear like why that tax is being slapped on them like i don't feel that message is really coming through clearly and i think i've looked into smoking as an example actually of where you know tv advertising ended long before taxes were introduced and when you look at then the declining levels you know there's a big decline then taxes came along and actually after taxes were introduced there was a small stagnation in decline which then picks up again after there's more active efforts to communicate more of the point which is about health risks and about you know why we're why that tax was slapped in the first place and i think that yeah there's so many things that can accompany something like tax to make people realize and understand and become less hostile because they understand the point they understand why that tax is there and what it's trying to achieve and i feel like without that messaging people won't really respond well to attacks for example so i think that's the main points i wanted to pick up on thanks steve thank you anna you you're an inspiration um somebody really understands but how do you deal with the point that i think julian annable made that um we we have difficulty when people don't feel their own behavior will make a difference to anything and we're dealing with a general public who are much less sophisticated than you are and generally speaking not quantitative they don't understand numbers you know we all talk about the magnitudes and the crisis and so on they just don't know what it means when you talk about the measurements and the numbers and so on do you think that the world can only continue yeah i mean for me it was doing a carbon footprint calculator i don't know if anyone else has and you really see the impact of transport like flying in cars are the most impactful things you can do like if yeah these these sort of things and that for me was a big wake up moment of being like oh that's actually such a big thing i go on about it all the time but it really is and yeah i mean i i find it frustrating yeah how many of your generation would have the faintest idea what a carbon input calculator would mean or care about it yeah i think there's a there's definitely i mean we're in an echo chamber aren't we of privilege of people in well-paid jobs uh we're all white on this call i've noticed you know like there's there's people that are frozen out from this kind of conversation i think that's a massive problem and we need to understand different people and how to communicate with different people thank you uh we must move on to anthony smith well known to us all as chief executive of transport focus anthony stephen thank you very much indeed and good morning everybody it's great to be here fantastic debate so far i hope we can harness some of this energy anger and other emotions we've got to fuel quite a few buildings on the basis of this if nothing else it's really good um hot news from the front line um i was walking doing my morning walk this morning and the schools are going back and of course the traffic is clogged again people are driving their kids to school my load the junction near my house there's been a scheme there for the last 20 odd years to try and free it up to unclog it to get the buses flowing more smoothly for it absolutely stuck in planning and politics and i think it just underlines the local nature of a lot of this debate how it actually affects people and just how difficult it is to achieve some changes locally um transport focus some of you will know us with the independent consumer watchdog for britain's transport users we're very much a consumer organization we're very much trying to be useful to all of you who are making decisions trying to drive change in these areas and above all else we use evidence and what i want to contribute to this debate is to argue to be much more bottom-up much more consumerist in how we're approaching this and help people really choose more sustainable forms of transport a lot of this debate is very top down things are being done to people you may know that the green party in germany is nicknamed the no party because they like telling people what they can't do and i just think we have to recognize the political realities of some of these changes no matter what the actual crisis actually is there is politics and a lot of what we've talked about is government investing more at the same time as its revenue from cars vehicles coming down at the same time very tricky political balance and also i think we just mustn't kid ourselves if i'm asked in a survey one of my own surveys do i want to save the planet of course i'm going to say i want to save the planet do i want to pay 10 quid to drive the kids to school if that was what i did maybe not i think what people say and what people do can often be two very different things we've just got to help people on this journey um we've just published a bit of insight which i'll pop into the chat function looking at people's attitudes postcoded to sustainability to um and to transport it's very interesting it's very sobering um a lot of people are completely at a loss about what else they could do to help save the planet they do their recycling but it's not clear what else they can do this stuff is very tribal it's got a lot of identity politics involved in it people don't like being labeled as green even though they're actually doing some quite green things and people say well hang on everyone's still flying there's power stations in china what's the point of doing all this this is this is silly you know me cycling to the supermarket it's not going to make any difference i think reinforcing what stephen just said and i think that balance of getting it right for consumers about the cost and the convenience which is how we all choose how to travel getting that balance right and tilting that balance to help people choose more more sustainable transport is really important ultimately long long long term stephen said planning will help but at the moment the um the car is is convenient and cost effective for many people and of course as electric vehicles appear some of the guilt disappears as well because there's no pollution coming out of the exhaust pipe now what are we going to do i'm optimistic i share what other speakers have said there's no point being pessimistic we've got to be optimistic the transport decarbonisation plan of course it didn't save the planet on its own but it's a good start it's a good place for government to be underneath it you've got the bus strategy you've got the rail reform you've got the electric vehicle drive these are all good things but public transport is under great pressure post covered revenues down ridership down the climate is actually affecting the railways the railways get washed away quite regularly they're quite fragile infrastructure in that respect which will only put up the cost of maintaining them so public transport has a role to play but i don't think it's going to be total solution to any of this and of course decarbonization as other speakers have said in a way it's the easy bit it's the behavior change that underpins it that's really tricky so yes let's keep pushing people helping people choose active transport let's keep investing in making public transport better and the better choice let's grab people when they move houses that critical point in your life when you can really change how you need to travel and let's keep pushing on electric vehicles but let's face facts cars are great that's why most people have got them i suspect most people who are on this call either own a car or use a car there's very good reasons for this and i think we just have to be realistic about that and take people with us on this journey and i think what our research showed when we did it is that after a century of building our societies around car use people are literally they can't imagine living without cars they just can't see how they could do it this is going to be quite a difficult long journey and i think as with other speakers that said ultimately you can't perhaps really see how this is going to be cracked in the shorter term without some compulsion without some road pricing some taxi tax issues which will actually make people think about the choices that they're making and finally just one real plea can we stop using this phrase mars i have got no idea what it means i don't think it goes down well in the pub i i wish we could just ban it today and turn it into plain english so my argument is go consumer go bottom up thank you stephen thank you anthony but i didn't catch the phrase what's the phrase you want us to stop using mars mobility as a service i don't think i don't think outside of our little groups it means absolutely anything yeah i entirely agree it's gobbledygook yes indeed um thank you so uh next we have paul campion who is chief executive of um the research consultancy um trl uh once upon a time that was a government research station went independent uh and now continues as a an independent um consultancy body paul it does indeed thank you very much stephen um i'm gonna have to have a word with the organizers because i'm i'm after everyone has said all these important uh stirring interesting detailed well-informed things what on earth can i say and even worse than that i'm in front of hugh merriman so um just a couple of observations then perhaps to reflect as i'm sure everyone is on what we've heard um first off just to pick up the point that hannah made around generations my experience limited as it is but with my children with the graduates and apprentices we employ um as i read watch listen to what's going on around me is that the younger generation get this to a much greater extent than uh older generations like mine do and a much more flexible i'm sure they've got much more skin in the game so uh if there's any portion of the population that is better informed and cares more about this it's the young and i take great heart from that by the way um not to say we are where we need to be but um but i don't see that the young are less well-informed or careless about this quite the opposite we're talking about government government can do four things can't it can tax it can spend it can regulate and it can lead now one of the problems with leading in your fury government is that people learn quite early on that they can only lead as fast as people are willing to follow and you may remember the fuel tax due to revolt if i can use that word of 2010 there thereabouts when um it was a labor government i think the time wasn't it doesn't really matter was essentially held to ransom by uh by truck drivers angry at the cost of fuel duty um interesting the fuel is a lot more expensive now than it was then although maybe not so much in relative terms that experience is still referred to inside central government when they think about how fast they can drive a behavioral change with regulation and there is a nervousness at trying to go too fast at trying to force the pace too much and that's one at the same time wise and limiting because limiting not just because as everyone has pointed out we have a genuine crisis on our hands we have non-negotiable timelines here and we can't wait for everyone to get a clue we've got to do something but also limiting because it probably underrates the extent to which a different articulation i'm going to go back to what i always say a different story different way of talking about this could motivate people i was very taken by the phrase political suicide uh you know it's this is the political version of perhaps the official's view of how fast you can drive it which is well you know i can never sell this policy um and it's interesting to me that it's much easier always to talk as we are doing now at the end of the pandemic about going back to normal because it feels somehow comforting it feels as if you know one is doing a doing one's job we've got the crisis out of the way now we're back to normal but any examination whether that normal was actually good and i for one think that normal could be dramatically improved not least in the ways that make jillian quite rightly angry and there are lots of degrees of freedom here it's interesting when we think about what political will is you know you get into some really deep water here about what does democracy mean you know i i find it interesting that the national infrastructure plan the nps which was put in place um for transport as a result of the planning act 2008 it's been challenged in the courts uh not through politics as usual and so you know we're seeing some interesting ways in which the machine is operating uh in interesting times look i suppose what i'm thinking of finally is is the metaphor of the body politic the idea that the government is the head and it's somehow uh controls all the limbs of the state and therefore the citizens is probably radically out of date and unhelpful here and you know i think it's been quite pervasive in the way we've been talking about it we've talked about behavioural change very much as what can government do to help people to do the right thing and we can unpack that at length by the way and i have some views as to how far we're gonna get by explaining to people what the right thing is because i think a lot of people feel and probably correctly they don't have a luxury to do the right thing they have to do what is necessary to get through the week but anyway metaphors wrong i don't think we should be thinking human body i don't think we should be thinking head and limbs i think we should be thinking of an octopus whose intelligence is distributed through its entire limbs and when we talk about behavior change surely what we've mostly been talking about here is how do we get politicians and officials to change their behavior i think that's not only poorly studied but it's little thought about the behavior of a transport planner in one of the more than 200 local authorities with road building authorities in this country is dictated entirely by their budget the the the the um the pressures on their time and by the way their training he and it also is a he probably got trained 30 years ago doesn't have ever had the education or the training to understand the new possibilities to to think what are we doing to help that person change their behavior to help to help the local people to deliver better outcomes what are we doing about understanding the behavior of the politicians and the civil servants in central government and understanding why they aren't behaving in the way that we want to in turn change the behaviour of the citizen well big question i don't have an answer if i did i'd probably be rich enough to be on a beach instead but look i i think as always fascinating uh uh debate um really really enjoyed it find it inspiring find it refreshing and and i feel optimistic that there are so many people who cares passionately and are full of such great ideas and i think uh you know therefore confident that we will get this done somehow but i think we need to be very clear about what our outcome is start with the end in mind and then work back to understand who has to do what to whom to get there so behavior of change yes absolutely for citizens but behavior change for government local and central as well stephen that's uh that's the best i can come up with after such an an impressive set of people to follow thank you paul uh we have one final speaker um which is professor glenn lyons uh after which we will run the video from uh hugh merriman so uh glenn professor um of future mobility mcdonald professor at the university of western england glenn thanks very much stephen uh well i'm sure like most of you now on the call um your brain is fizzing with a myriad of thoughts i know my blood pressure is up and as anna's reminded us what a privilege to be spending our morning as knowledge workers in this stimulating intellectual discussion but it is another bubble isn't it and i know that it won't be long after i leave this call that i'll see some other reminders of the stark crisis that we're in in terms of climate change and that in turn will exacerbate what jillian pointed out as a condition which i now realize i have which is pre-traumatic stress disorder when it comes to climate change um but i'd like to try and make my contribution by trying to tell one of paul campion's stories as he quite rightly emphasizes the importance of storytelling through this myriad of thoughts and ideas and recommendations that we've heard this morning um and i'll start by a point you made stephen which is we've been saying all of this for the last 20 to 30 years in different shapes and forms and points of emphasis so surely our starting question has to be what's new that really is going to bring about something different this time in the time that we've got well andy suggested it might be that we do have more energy and appetite or whether whether we means us in this call or the population at large i'm not sure um is code red going to be the what's new that makes the difference well presumably only if there's really serious public concern for code red and thank goodness there seem to be signs that that concern is growing especially perhaps amongst the young but what follows i think most importantly uh in terms of what's new is public action and i don't mean action in terms of travel behavior change which may be important uh ultimately but public action in terms of trying to change the system and of course last month we saw many brave souls as far as i'm concerned appear in london with extinction rebellion the impossible rebellion and it certainly feels impossible listening to the uh ideas in this call but also perhaps more down to earth if you like kate pangborn in in the audience very early on in this session um made a plea for us to recognize and give more attention to the importance of community action groups and i think this touches upon what paul was emphasizing that this is a different type of behavior change community action groups and i won't pretend to have direct involvement and realize that i perhaps should which will include more and more young people i suspect are ultimately about understanding the system they occupy but trying to work with and influence the local politicians and it's only by influencing the politicians that we can change the system and the poor politicians have got to fight with the behavior of corporates um who also need to change their behavior and only through system change when we get behavior change so how do you change the system well i think those community action groups are very important and imagine if we could multiply them at the speed phil refers to um but stephen your excellent blog this week was titled it's time to put a price on carbon and in that you said there's a direct approach and one that is simple for everyone to understand if the problem is the release of co2 then price carbon properly and i found that very compelling because of the word simple and indeed if i heard correctly phil earlier today said tax carbon it's easy um i'm not convinced i have to say that the word simple or easy even for um pricing carbon are going to deliver much in the next 10 years but my goodness let's hope they do but the point is if you're pricing carbon um you need to have alternatives uh available in terms of how people are living their lives and those alternatives may include technologically based solutions but we need alternatives if people are going to change behavior that's what determines their choice set but what we seem to have forgotten time and time again in this call and i accept the jillian reminding us is phil's salutary point about immediacy uh indeed one that claire made at the start it's the next 10 years or less that matter and how much of what you've heard this morning is really anything more than the same old thing we've heard from the last 20 to 30 years and for me the sense of immediacy that really the new thing is back to kate pangbone's point about community action and that may be community in a village in a town or city it could be nationwide or global action as we're seeing with extinction rebellion but i think that's where behavior change could be most powerful it's using our voices as citizens and those voices include us as professionals and here's an admission at the end i ask myself what i'm in these conversations quite regularly have i ever tried or indeed dared to speak to perhaps 10 people in my immediate local community including people i don't particularly know well and the answer is i haven't and i'd throw that challenge to all of you in this call how many of you with perhaps the exception of kate and i'm sure jillian have really dared to ask the people beyond the bubble what they're thinking um in order that we can help influence them and perhaps become part of community action and i would be very pleased to have some help and support i have to say within our sector when we're talking about policy solutions if you like a professional policy how do we mobilize the great wealth of knowledge that we have as transport professionals to support those community action groups uh and perhaps i'll finish by a salute to steve melia who for the second time in about 18 months has been arrested um in his standing up as part of community action for what he believes in and the change he realizes has to happen in the next 10 years thank you stephen thank you glenn um in just a moment um i'll invite the organizers organizers to run hugh merriman's film but i just wanted to clarify a point with jillian if she's still on the line are you there julian i am yes um jillian everybody's been impressed by what you said and picking up the point about the urgency including glenn just now um there was a an argument a line a couple of years ago you see it with a committee on climate change you see it with the bayes document which said that if we follow a particular path we can get from here to there uh within the horizons we need to do it at a relatively low cost in fact lord demon mentioned that the figure in his talk on monday um so my question to you is do you buy that argument and if you do i guess your point is we're just not getting on with we've already lost two years i think you said and obviously the more years we lose the more gruesome it gets and in fact we lose the opportunity to take this sensible path from here to there and have to do something uh really terribly would that be a fair summary of your position it is i think i'm right saying somebody might correct me that lord even also said or somebody else said on monday that whilst the overall costs may not be large uh they won't be evenly spread um so there will be some costs incurred uh that may be a bit unpalatable by some um and certainly when you look at the distribution of who is who are the highest emitters um uh it is very unevenly spread um you know the the the wealthy are consuming more um but then they can also afford to do a lot more uh mitigation options themselves so i think there are ways of um of making it fair um but um it can't so that's one point the other point about urgency though is that um as i think anthony said and phil and i have recently written a blog called the two futures that makes this point the longer we leave it the more we fail uh the higher the costs of adaptation are going to be and we're already starting to see those so that means that regardless of whether you're talking about spending on mitigation now to succeed or allowing failure to happen and either way it's going to cost money and actually either way we're talking about disruptions and reductions to to travel demand so both futures involve travel demand and costs and indeed the future where we fail to do anything will also have um distribution distributional effects as well so we have to just look at the whole picture yeah thank you um so can we move on now to the keynote speech from huma merriman good morning it's a pleasure to be with the greener transport solutions audience i'm really delighted to take part in the subject rising to the challenge what will it take to decarbonize transport i'm not quite live because it's transport oral questions in the chamber today so um i have to be in there to ask that question but i'm doing this 45 minutes beforehand so the same shirt and tie will be on in the chamber um let me just start by saying i really applaud all of the efforts that the entire community makes uh to look to decarbonize transport it will require all of us to come up with the ideas the initiatives and then to take the public with us and i want to talk a bit about what the transport select committee is doing will be doing uh as far as this agenda is concerned and also how we can better engage with the public so i'm sorry if there'll be some shameless plugs uh off the transport select committee work but hopefully that's what you want to hear for and of course transport accounts for the largest source of carbon dioxide emissions of any sector in the uk so moving to low carbon solutions to travel has got to be part of the uk's path to meeting its legally binding target of net zero emissions by 2050 and when i came in as transport select committee chair and was elected by the other 649 mps my pledge was that every single inquiry we hold will incorporate this challenge and underpin everything we ask everything we scrutinize because surface transport provides 70 of all transport emissions and so there's great scope to actually try and work out how we can not just change the way our surface transport is produced but also reduce it as well in terms of modal shift now the government's ban on the sale of all new petrol and diesel cars and vans by 2030 presents uh this kind of opportunity but also great challenges so we've just held an inquiry into zero emission vehicles and will shortly go on to its sister inquiry which will be road pricing we've asked what actions are required from government local authorities and the private sector to increase the production and take up and deliver the infrastructure required to deliver an electric car market let's be quite clear we need to see a curve between now and 2013 we're not on the right trajectory and so more needs to be done as part of that in terms of engaging with the public we put questions direct to drivers and i think that the research has shown that most registrations on new battery vehicles in 2020 were made by commercial fleets not private consumers our survey was asking what influences the decision to buy or not buy an electric vehicle and the response seemed to be range anxiety uh price uh and also the inability to be able to charge and so those are all matters we've looked at we've proposed that what called a zeb mandate where effectively those producers of electric vehicles um who produced the most would be able to sell credits to those motor manufacturers who produced the least so effectively that acts as a subsidy which we then would like to see as a reduction in the price of an electric vehicle and ultimately incentivizes the entire motor manufacturing industry towards producing electric we've also suggested uh that the national grid needs to be mapped out so we can see where are the spots where if people start charging vehicles it will just down the grid uh in their area and also the price disparity of charging from home versus charging on the street why is it there's 20 percent vat charged for those on the street which that's 30 of householders whereas those householders that have a drive get just five percent of b.a.t and again you tend to find that those with the houses perhaps tend to have more money so all of these ideas we put in our paper i very much hope you'll engage with it now of course the reason we're looking at road pricing is hand in hand is because the resulting shortfall in tax revenue is going to create a headache for the chancellor who stands to lose around 40 billion annually from fuel and excise duty which of course don't apply to electric as things stand so it could be said that road pricing could not only plug that hole but could also bring in some form of pricing mechanism to genuinely change behavior and lead to a reduction in congestion in air pollution and the overall carbon footprint now we're going to examine further this autumn but this theme is how does price change behavior can we incentivize people by price to travel at different times of the day perhaps when there's less traffic on there and can we also use price to show well this is how much it will travel costs to travel by car from uh london to newcastle this is how much it costs in terms of rail is it cheaper to go by rails so really consumers can directly compare pricing and then when it comes to the infrastructure obviously transport is about half of the budget of infrastructure spend that the government has slated now that can be a major contributor to emissions or if it's spent well that can actually help us reduce our carbon footprint now the government has changed the spending rules to ensure that projects which deliver a net zero element are as valid as those deliver the best bang for the buck but of course ensuring the delivery of both is absolutely key and what we don't want to have is that there are projects which are that look very worthy but actually they'll have very little uh delivery in terms of the green agenda and they could become what one would say a green white elephant so our inquiry wants to look at how these projects are appraised how they'll be delivered and ultimately to ensure that they still deliver value for money as well as delivering towards net zero so as the treasury model changes from just how much am i going to get back from this investment to what does this do towards net zero what does it do to regeneration it's important that that's properly modeled and looked at and there's a whole scope of other recommendations in our transport infrastructure inquiry findings which will come out probably later this month uh don't want to miss out rail traveling by rails environmental advantages but then most of the network is of course still diesel the government aims to decarbonize by 2040 and our report on trains fit for the future recommends that we crack on with electrification but keep an eye out for the benefits of hydrogen and battery should their credentials be developed now just in terms of what the government has done in decarbonising transport we're obviously there to focus and scrutinize where things could be done better to get behind innovations and new technology let's look and see what they've done well they've set some important key goals such as ending uh the ending of sales of the combustion engine and the decarbonized decarbonization of rail and it could be argued that these big bang expiry dates are needed to drive new markets and set the clock running but behind there we need policy uh and drive to underpin it the government of course is seeking people to use their cars less and for walking cycling and public transport to become people's natural first choices for many day-to-day journeys and as a result the government has set target for half of all journeys and towns and cities to be walked or cycled by 2030. that's very ambitious uh welcome it but the key now is making sure we have the investment uh and the cell of these alternative uh transport methods to ensure that people really take them up as far as the government is concerned with regards to bus services of course we talk a lot about rail but we must remember that more people use bus than any other form of public transport the government has got behind the transport select committee's call for a bus strategy previous government rejected it we finally got there which is very exciting for us our committee looked at buses and reported a bleep painted picture really of steady decline uncoordinated services fragmented government policy and we called for one single unified approach and for real investment in local transport authorities so in march the government delivered a national strategy heralding funding for cheaper greener bus services and partnerships between local authorities and operators to improve services looking at london as really the kite mark now the issue for us though is that local transport authorities who are either short on staff or enthusiasm for buses need more expertise to be able to really come up with a policy uh that they can then bid off the back of with government funding and i think at the moment the jury is out as there's some local transport authorities who just seem to think management consultants are the answer rather than engaging with the public and coming up with really exciting innovative opportunities that fit the geography that they represent and i really would call for local government to really get behind the bus strategy because if you don't bid in an ambitious manner you won't get the funding which actually helps green bus services i'll also make a nod to e-scooters they come up an awful lot i think they're an exciting example of new technology which have the potential to be a low-cost accessible and environmentally friendly alternative to the private car studies in the states from one particular city uh demonstrated that 30 of journeys that would have otherwise been used by car were being used by e-scooters the committee has supported a private and a rental market but we do need a delivery of technology to ensure that e-scooters cannot be used on pedestrian paths the industry has talked about geo-fencing as a measure but it doesn't seem to work at the moment and i think we really have to push the industry to make it safer for pedestrians as well as getting behind this new form of technology that gets people out of the car i just make a mention to what i see is the greatest challenge for decarbonizing transport on the path to net zero really i think it's having the political will to follow through on all of this to persuade the elector the consumer to move away from the tried and trusted and get them to switch to different forms of transport and that's why i believe a pricing mechanism will deliver that type of change but let's be honest it won't deliver financial savings for everyone for some it will actually cost more but if we are serious about delivering net zero as well as reducing obesity then we need to not only switch from combustion to electric but also from car to other modes of transport it's all well and good hailing green uh in the form of electric as the green alternative but look deeper and it can be seen that only 40 percent of electricity comes from renewables it's still a dirty enterprise on the whole which takes a lot out of the planet as an example rail already accounts for one percent of the national grid and that's even before we ramp up electrification as part of the government's decarbonisation policy on rail so i believe price can play an important mechanism in reducing the carbon footprint the uk can provide a model for the rest of the globe and sell this when it comes to cop 26. when it comes to road pricing the key global example that we've seen and been referred to by the market is in fact on our doorstep in london yet the congestion zone charges car uses in london the same price for driving one mile into the zone as those who drive across it and belch out pollution for hours in a day the introduction of 5p plastic bags demonstrates that when you use price as a unit on an item then consumers end up reducing the units spent and therefore their overall consumption that's got to be good for the planet it's got to be good for transport successive governments have shied away from these challenges this government has a combination of ambitious targets support from the public for net zero delivery and a taxation black hole which is going to have to fill so i would ask if we don't do it now with all of this backing behind us then we never will and i think transport can play a real lead and i'll thank you all again for the focus you give to it and i really hope that you'll follow our inquiries get behind them with the evidence that you can deliver to us the new ideas the new technology that you may have seen or championed and bring it to us so that we can try and scrutinize it and sell better policies and do our bit to make the planet greener i wish you a good uh rest of your day and the weekend to come thank you thank you well um i'm really sorry that uh hugh marion can't be here to engage with the discussion um particularly of his remarks um it's all it's it's all good stuff isn't it it's good it's really good to hear the chair of the select committee uh speaking in those terms but as we've said earlier it's all so old i mean he the stuff he said about road pricing which i agree with was said by smead in 1964. um i would like in what time remains to really um develop this thinking about what we can do to make government both central government and and local government recognize the point about urgency um to jillian's point that we're wasting so much time that the kind of recipes which humerum was just talking about good that they are simply have no chance of solving the problem um in the time that we have available well it seems to me we have a really fundamental constitutional problem the politicians have to get the support of the general public the electorate um the election is so far behind the ball they aren't going to get that in time so how do we get sufficient action taken uh in the time that we have available anyway look um phil you've had your hand up let's hear from you thank you thank you stephen i wanted to comment on this recurrent theme and you've now mentioned it again of what we actually do to make government and everybody else take this seriously and it relates to the issue of the reasons for not taking it seriously which are it's too expensive it's unnecessary it's too disruptive and it's inequitable and all those things excuses for not doing things disappear in the face of one question which is it's not expensive it's not disruptive it's not inequitable by comparison with the only alternative future which is on offer to us which is runaway climate change and that is the way that it has to be presented we either have the choice of a disruptive catastrophic effect on transport geography on economic viability and on social existence or we have the choice of doing these things and by that comparison it's not expensive it's the cheaper option is to do these things that recognition i think changes the terms of the debate not having that recognition makes the debate impossible to it to win thank you phil um and i think that point was made by lord dieben on monday it was made some years ago by nick stern when he did his his his work on this thing um that if we act quickly there's a way of doing it at reasonable cost if i understand your your uh um your point um but but we aren't winning through are we i think we all agree the action is not happening uh to put us on that on that path and it shows no sign of happening anthony anthony smith thank you i think this point about the immediacy of the crisis and its kind of salience is really really important um covid if you went out you could catch a fatal disease it's pretty pretty you know that's pretty in your face the second world war we were being bombed you did something about it the people driving their kids again to school this morning i don't think they're thinking their heads that's the slightest link between their actions and what is happening to the climate and i think how i'd be really interested to hear what panelists and participants think about how on earth you try and make a slightly better connection between the two things because at the moment it seems like a very distant connection [Music] glenn i agree glenn um yeah i i guess i in terms of trying to make the glass feel a bit a bit more half full stephen um i'm reminded of the old adage that um things in the short term happen slower than you hoped they would and in the longer term happen faster than you could ever imagine they could um if i look back personally three years ago um i wasn't anywhere like as as mobilized and consumed by yes i was consumed by sustainable transport but not by tackling this enormous crisis and then along came a young teenager um in sweden and that that was the light bulb for me and and of course pre-covered that was a light bulb for literally millions of particularly young people around the world it's intriguing how the pandemic in some ways switch that light bulb off in some senses because of the issue of mass crowds and protests but i do wonder when if that's the amount of change we've seen in the last three years with with parts of the public expressing concern very visibly if we move forward two more years three more years and i know that's three years into a desperately short decade um whether we will be looking back today and thinking my goodness we we didn't know the half of it in terms of the expression of concern that's emanating out not just from many many scientists who are on the streets because they've given up on science alone being able to persuade politicians so i take some confidence from that and i just come back to the point that i think we need to be looking at how we can help um public expression of concern rather than perhaps so much effort on how we change travel behavior directly thank you lynn anna hello um i just wanted to firstly pick up on a point that i think anthony made earlier about the car being great i agree that the car is an invention that's obviously succeeded and because it's convenient but there's so many people that are frozen out from using the car yeah about 50 of the population has the car like a driving license if you think about all the young people that can't drive elderly people who can no longer drive people with disabilities and um when i was writing my my blog piece um i was looking at um diversity as well and and white people are much more likely to have um access to a car than um other ethnic groups and yeah i just think i just wanted to pick up on a point that cars are great for people that have them for people that don't have them cars most certainly are not great and they're a massive pain um i think i could easily see that as a young person living in a city without a car that they're yeah i find them a massive pain um but yeah so um i also just wanted to pick up on the point about like the behavior change that i mean we have 32 million cars in the uk uh there's one for every two people like sometimes it feels like an elephant in the room is actually just saying we need to reduce that and i don't think i don't know if i hear many people really we talk about alternatives you talk about getting more people to walk in cycle we talk about getting people to use public transport but we all know as transfer planners the biggest barrier to that is car ownership if people own a car they're more likely to jump in it than take an alternative like that's this just seems to be a plain fact so i'm keen to hear what other people think if we need to be more direct and more open about that challenge about getting encouraging people in the same way that veganisms vegans encourage people to go vegan which is an extreme form of a behavior change but it influences and and inspires so many people to make more gradual choices to because they understand the purpose of of the movement of the extreme movement um so yeah keen to hear what others think but you've identified a central problem that um people who have cars spend a vast amount on them because they're enormously valuable to them and if between us we are proposing taking that away from them there's going to have to be a very strong politically acceptable generally acceptable argument to allow that to happen um i think paul campion had his hand up next thanks and then jillian and then suzanne thanks steven and i'd like to i think build on what then and you've just said uh stephen um i think there's a danger in thinking that there's one big thing here that we've got to do we've got to get everyone to realize it's urgent and then suddenly the problem solved i think we've got a lot of relatively smaller things there's really his hands pointing which there are you know there's a there's a huge diversity of types of transport consumption of lifestyles and by the way of issues and stephen to your point i think it you know we're never going to succeed in telling people here's a great idea let me take your car away we have to find ways for them to do the things they need to do to flourish and live sustainable lives that are better that are more desirable for whatever reason now that could involve some uh some sticks as well as carrots i mean we might wanna we might all believe that tax on on fuel could go up uh more rapidly than the costs of public transport for instance that's one signal what it does is it change people's propensities but it's part of a bigger story let me just take one example we've mentioned before i there is a one big component of the morning peak is lots of parents driving their children to school in cars and anna of course is right a lot of people don't have cars i tell you what a lot of people who do have their have children and they take them to school now my experience again anecdotal anecdata is that his parents aren't doing that because that's the way they want to spend their time they're doing it because there is no alternative that is safe and socially acceptable even blooming america manages to take its children to school in buses and i know what i speak because i've lived there and and it is absolutely standard normally expected that your children go to a bus stop getting a yellow bus get taken to school and isn't done by parents now that is a on one level a trivially simple intervention we could make that could help people to have a better option than getting in their car so it's partly storytelling what's better than using the car not taking your car away but great news i'm saving you from having to do that look some journey that you don't really want to do anyway but also it's about having a set of messages that are much more pinpointed where i live flooding risk don't talk about climate change don't talk about climate crisis you can't elect it talk about flood talk about insurance talk about the the things that you can do to to in to maintain your property prices that gets traction thank you uh jillian thanks um i i so i'm still grumpy i'm afraid um i want to suggest i mean andy's andy uh he's like when he talked focused on metrics the need for more metrics glenn's focused on um the need to carry on you know uh making the link between what's happening and people's concern and and it's a good thing that people are more aware more concerned anthony's talked about focusing on bottom-up and consumerism my my feeling is that all of those things are only necessary conditions they're they're not the actions that we're searching for they're the platform they're the foundation they're necessary but that still not what we're talking about requiring um to happen um in order to change behavior concern itself won't lead to action um uh metrics won't lead to action if metrics led to changes in behavior we wouldn't have the car fleet that we have out on the road right now we've had people have made the link between miles per gallon and fuel consumption and fuel burning in cars it has an environmental impact forever i mean it's not it's not difficult just like people made the link between smoking and you know it doesn't change behavior people have to believe taking that example people have to believe that the alternatives are actually better and when you talk to people as glenn said go and speak to those half a dozen people that aren't in your bubble people really genuinely do not believe that electric vehicles are better on the whole and they will listen to the stories about the the social implications in uh labor labor mark what's happening to workers in congo or the fact that you know we can't get hold of cobalt or whatever they see those things and they understand the link in broad enough terms they don't need to understand the detail they understand links in broad enough terms so i i still disagree uh with the emphasis that a lot of people are talking about um i do i do think that we do have more to do to convince people that um there are solutions if they are done through policy because it's policy that has to make industry act that will be better for everyone and lead to cheaper and better lifestyles for everyone that's where we do have to make the links thank you julian uh yes i i agree that you have to people have to um understand that alternative is is better behavior is better for them but the other leg of the stool is that people have to really feel their social pressure to do something different that's what was important in smoking it was it was a feeling that it was no longer socially acceptable to smoke in public places and that's when it stopped look we've got about three minutes left i'm going to bring in suzanne and greg and then i'm really sorry but we're going to have to wrap up suzanne very quickly yes i think what anna said about the smoking campaign was for me the most profoundest thing we've said this morning i think if there was one thing we were doing it would be have getting the government to have some kind of um communication plan some plan about take about making alternative transport and attractive and a lifestyle choice not because let's face it electric vehicles all look amazing and everybody wants one everyone's they are they make you look affluent and successful and we need to need to change that that that mindset thank you i mean i suggest that even if everybody was totally convinced about the benefits electric vehicles the realities are it ain't going to solve the problem the technical supply problems the elapsed times something you know all the electrical electrical distribution it ain't going to do it anyway greg i don't necessarily agree with you on that point i think they'll do an awful lot of the heavy lifting but let's focus on the topic look einstein said that insanity is keep doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result okay i think as advocates as experts as transport planners we need to start thinking about different ways that we influence the government decision making processes i don't think it's working the way that we've been doing things for the last 20 30 years it's clearly not working because there's more cars on the road and we've still got a 27 billion pound um road building program so for me i think we have to collectively think about ways that we can work differently to have more influence over the key decision makers and i would say that i would highlight two things that i think we should collectively do one is that we should you know green advocates for active and public transport should come together to work with the people that we don't normally work with in order to persuade the government to adopt a national road pricing scheme to work with the motoring organizations to work with the car builders to work with the people who traditionally oppose us in order to persuade government that there's a broad coalition in favor that's one thing i would do the second thing i would do is i think that we we are stopped from doing so many of the local things that we know work simply by a lack of resources at a local authority level there is good practice all over the country it's just in isolated spots so let's work to reinvigorate and re-resource our local authorities to give them the resources and capacity and skills to start to be able to implement the school travel planning and and the workplace travel planning and things like that that will bring down the traffic levels at a local level i think those are two things that we could do that i think would make a significant difference greg uh thank you you've you've captured a lot of the discussion in that uh it's a really excellent way um to summarize the session including a mention of local authorities which will be part of the discussion at next monday's session claire do you want to just take two seconds to give a trailer for next monday yes i i'd love to thank you for plugging it also um to everyone um who hasn't please do fill in the survey and we're running a positive survey so you hope you've seen that um i've also just got to reflect i mean you haven't thankfully asked me to comment um because i couldn't because just so much brilliant stuff has been said um so i just want to thank everybody um and stephen for your brilliant sharing i just want to thank everyone for this discussion it has been absolutely brilliant so yes so monday we will be looking at um particularly the role of um local authorities a lot of localism um in driving forward decarbonization and in particular and we have touched a little bit today i hope we will have a lot more in our monday is in that all-important fair and just transition we'll be getting a presentation from the ippr and they're very influential work you'll probably be familiar with i'm really looking forward to hearing from luke on that um so yeah i mean it's going to be another really brilliant discussion and what can i say make sure you sign up make sure you come and thank you to everyone thank you claire and i would just like to apologize to people who sent in questions and i haven't had time to explicitly have them asked i think from what i've seen uh quite a lot of the questions that came in were indirectly addressed by the remarks that were made by the by the panel um but i'm sorry if we haven't been able to mention the names of the people who put those questions in anyway do look at the recording of last week uh last session on monday please attend next monday hope to see you there thank you very much
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people doing although we are useful power on this virus is spreading like anything and it's very very deadly for all age groups Duke it's just 10% of the affected people who are dying in especially the old age group everyone locked yourself in your houses and do not come out it's like a zombie breakout Duke it's not that serious people can still go out for essential stuff we are all gonna die oh my god are they serious I have to be more protective towards Sasha can't let anything happen to her bye mom I'm going to Dora's house we'll be back tomorrow stop you are not going anywhere there's a deadly virus outbreak and anything can happen to you want wash your hands five times before eating I'm taking your phone away what if the disease spread through Internet so no I know go cactus McCoy no PSP gaming IT spreads virus oh hell no careless lalala lalala lalalala Oh James it's curfew I guess you should be at home eating time did you even wash your hands after coming home bye I'm going to the movies do you even know what is curfew its curfew a deadly virus is spreading so we are not safe outside really the spiritual one where the hell is willow we were about to watch the news together God come upon us God take the soul and grant us mercy what the hell god grant us mercy God save the will Oh guys what kind of soup are you cooking this ain't no soup we are spiritual talking to God so that the coronavirus thien's a what you won't understand it's psychic powers we have aha you guys are stupid God will save Khurana aha [Music] why are you going outside you are perfectly fine and diarrhea is not a symptom of coronavirus the social butterfly hey guys this is me your gal Trishna right now logging in the mall at the time of the curfew guys I'm blogging and you can see there is almost no people here guys even the back area got closed and let's see whom else what can find guys we are out of the mall now let's click some pictures excuse me can you please take a good portrait picture of mine it's curfew you are not allowed to roam around for nothing go back home [Music]
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[Laughter] [Music] okay like I the one Che was it Che had like all the donuts he's like the jack a lantern oh God [Music] hey who eating over here who eating good put your hands up in the [Music] [Laughter] [Music] air I'm running I'm running God damn you [ __ ] you booked it you lost I'm getting a little angry be [Music] careful oh got yeah let's mate now oh wait what what what the camera I don't know he stands up like sets come [Music] here oh my god oh oh my oh I see you I see you I see you [Music] oh my god bang what he's outang oh he's he played dead by daylight de by day bang he's a palet use oh my God God oh my God don't shoot my friend man don't shoot my friend man don't my friend [Laughter] [Music] oh no oh my God he died you're my best work you have been promoted [Music] oh my God oh my God oh my God okay oh my [Music] God oh I see you [Music] everybody no here there's the rest of you stood up just to get [Music] [ __ ] look for the house that's be an open one what the [ __ ] oh a [Music] oh yeah you want to eat go ahead pick the [Music] mushroom damn no hesitation so good [Music] I a on this [ __ ] is not too easy oh [ __ ] I hit him by accident uh run run eat your ass man your [Music] ass are you [Music] here hungry what was that [Music] repositioning oh thank God oh my God it's nice being alive I do love okay just an average day you where she go yeah keep running keep running oh [ __ ] why' you m that one okay [Music] um I hit you [Music] Daniel we get stuck on the trees oh no I was going to eat that somebody else el else stop recording you still Chase I like the [Music] chase [ __ ] you [Laughter] wo don't get stuck no oh I'm just a regular old to your I'm just a regular old DE don't mind me please I mean sir please oh they here no I saw that booty [ __ ] I don't care about H anymore no no around C oh my God yeah you like that mango waito did you just [Laughter] squirt I got stuck am I stuck or am I God where' you go keep going oh oh dude all over him no oh cray fry you made a mistake come here get oh oh the right okay I'm [Music] watching hey why you right on top of [Music] that hey hey you [Music] [ __ ] no get out of the way oh my goodness oh my God oh my goodness [Music] hey [Music] buddy who just Shi himself [Music] how' you hear that uhoh oh that was that was sick oh my [Music] God anyone else want to [ __ ] themselves you want that mushroom oh oh no [Music] monster oh hey oh who who's got to eat got to eat e no no no better eat eating who else is not eating who else got to eat got to eat I'm not hungry I'm not hungry got to eat man eat the vegies oh standing [Music] up oh my God you're going to kiss that one oh my God [ __ ] oh hey who's running I oh what the hell am game oh what the [ __ ] I don't know what my game what happened he got stunned by the [ __ ] oh hey where are you going oh no D I'm so sorry me oh you better stop eating man I can't see [Music] you come on I got to pick one [ __ ] no no no there get him get him oh Jes Jes Jes [Music] Jes I was more H's see if you if you get Hunter then if not if you don't get Hunter then we stop oh let's go oh Daniel you see me [Laughter] yeah we going to get that you better eat he's going to hear [Music] you oh [ __ ] oh [ __ ] [Music] oh [Laughter] [Music] Dam I was like oh this deer is right behind this tree it just starts twerking on me oh [Music] [ __ ]
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Breaking Bio Episode 62 (Dr. Stuart Wigby)
[Music] hi and welcome to episode 62 of the breaking bio podcast I'm Morgan Jackson the PHD student at the University of GF in Ontario Canada I'm Heidi Smith Parker I'm a postto at the University of Texas at Austin hi I'm Tom Howley I'm a PhD student at the University of sterling in Scotland and today we're joined by Dr Stuart wigg who's a nerk research fellow at the University of Oxford hi Stuart thanks for joining us this week you want to tell everybody at home a little bit about yourself and your work hi um yeah so I'm an evolutionary biologist and my research focuses on the themes of sex and life history and I mostly use fruit flies um and I I'm an N research fellow but only for another few days actually and then I'm becoming a bbsrc research fell um so yeah that's me uh so you you got this big Grant from bbsrc to study the links between Sex and Death um what are you going to be doing um so it's it's even worse than that it's it's focusing on Sex and Death and um and seminal fluid it's all about how um it's all about the male biological clock really and trying to understand how aging affects um male reproduction the consequences for male fness and for the fitness of females that mates with um old males um so I think this is a bit of an understudied area actually because um it's quite difficult it's much more difficult to measure male reproductive success than female reproductive success it's always cryptic and occurs via females and um and also effects on on uh in some species like in humans the effects of aging on male production are pretty subtle compared to the effects on females you know there's no male menopause or anything like that just some kind of gradual decline that might be quite variable between individuals so yeah that's what I'm planning on doing the coming through few years uh can I ask what is bbsrc for those not Tom it's the biotechnology and biological sciences research Council okay and then back to BX um how does how does the sperm actually does like morphology change or you get differences in sort of motility what changes overage with flies like what's known um not not a huge amount is known actually um so that there is there is some evidence out there you know unsurprisingly as people have been studying flies so intensively for so long some evidence that aging affects um affects male reproductive success but um when it comes to the the uh ejacula specifically there's not a great deal known some kind of evidence for dip in fertility but um there's there's very few studies that actually are very specific about it you know sometimes they just bunged a l of flies together and you know said oh they have less Offspring as they get older um so there's there's little bits of almost anecdotal evidence or sort of bits that were kind of um a sideline in a project but um relatively few studies that have really focused on what's going on um with the uh with the ejaculate itself um and in particular like yeah I don't think there's I can't think of any studies where you know anybody's counted sperm numbers or measured ejaculate size or looked um in detail at female post meeting responses or anything like that so what exactly is it in the the male ejaculate in drop that you're so interested in um so my research in the last few years and currently is um has focused well one of my research streams is focused on the semal fluid proteins um in particular on some well characterized ones that have a big effect on female physiology and behavior after mating so um iess I guess the sort of the key one that I've been working on is called The Sex peptide and this um inhibits female receptivity and stimulates egg laying after mating um but um yeah we've been focusing just on that protein but there's actually about 150 different proteins that are transferred to females in the ejaculate so another of the sort of key things that I want to start doing is using new techniques like proteomics to um try and look the whole ejaculate composition rather than just sort of cherry picking a particular protein or or just looking at the sperm or something like that independently you can actually look at the whole proteomic um package that gets transferred that's the plan anyway that sounds uh like a lot of work if you're talking about tracing down the the functions of all 150 peptides um how much how many of them are known you know individually like how much of this is going to be totally new and coming out with never the synthesis between them all um yeah so I I don't think in five years I can work out the functions of all of those 150 um thankfully there's um yeah there's a lot more work to be done um so H yeah how many are actually well characterized there there I'd say that wellar characterized there's probably like a handful you know four or five um that have had some characterization maybe up into double figures um but beyond that it's mostly um proteins that whose function would be inferred from sort of geneontology type information um so there's a whole bunch of stuff that we don't really know what's going on and the sort of paradox in it all is that it seems like sex peptide and a handful of other proteins kind of do everything that you could imagine so um there's always this kind of what on Earth are all these other ones doing so I'm kind of hoping that by actually quantifying um how the rest of the um the protein content of the jaculate changes with age or you know social environment or whatever that will give us some Clues as to whether particular classes of proteins strategically allocated or um or or respond Aging in different ways are the the specific ones that you're looking at um that you know now some bit of sequence to are these things that are highly conserved across other dropa species um they're a bit of a mixed bag the um ejaculate proteins so some of them are the you know ridiculously fast evolving um proteins so one of them called ovulin which stimulates ovulation for a while was known as the fastest evolving protein in the world ever I think that's been usurped now um but uh yeah others seem to be pretty well conserved and and the sex peptide itself is a kind of curious one because the receptor to it in females seems to be remarkably well conserved um but the protein itself um bits of it are conserved and other bits aren't and it's also extreme small so initially people found it difficult to find it in different species but I think as genomic techniques have improved then actually it's um it's it's um proving to be a bit more conserved and there's weird other weird things about it like um really distantly um it's biologically active in really distantly related species distantly related as in like lepidopteran species so it's it's a kind of curious story sort of sounds like the sodine in salamanders which evolves also very quickly but sodine is uh evolves so rapidly that you get specific populations that really become isolated and respond to different ones do you have I mean you probably have access to Wild type isolates and things you can work with do you expect that you'll have such you know maybe different sequences within specific populations H um yeah there has been some work on this and um I'm struggling to remember exactly what the literature has shown um in terms of the variation and what it actually means for that particular protein um I didn't know if there's a receptor that's so specific for something but I guess H yeah it seems to have a well that story is getting complicated as well so um that there is a receptor the sex peptide receptor but then it seems like there's some other um sort of ancestral receptors which are kind of similar and also the the pathway by which it actually um there's some receptors in the um female reproductive tract but then it seems like there's also alternative Pathways to the female brain other than these receptors so um what would what started off off as a really beautiful um beautiful Simple Story with a kind of like straightforward inout answer um has turned out to be quite typical bit of biology it's actually painfully complicated but that's good right yeah it makes it interesting um so I want to know how did you get your students to start dancing their phds if I can be the one that takes takes that question amazing like I will say when I saw this I was like oh yeah that's awesome there's no way I would make a video of myself dancing yeah it didn't take too much persuading for Cedric to to do this he's um a bit of a Dynamo um yeah so I've actually had like I've I've had quite a back seat and all this sort of stuff um Sedrick tan who's um who won the Danio PhD thing last year he's just um he's just crazy for this um science communication via the medium of Dance videos um and all sorts of other stuff um he uh yeah is quite a um quite a driven guy so like I think he he first did a video and it didn't it didn't win anything so it's was like right next year I'm definitely going to win and then he won the biology category of Dan PhD and he was well that's okay but I didn't win the overall thing so I've got to win the overall thing next time and um his his projects just get bigger and more ambitious each time and he's kind of um it's just through sheer force of will he's now kind of invented his own job and persuaded somebody to give him funding to do it it's quite amazing um like literally it's like written his own job description so are you still providing all the music for him in his new job or is that something that's left by the wayside no we're still we're still collaborating on on music then so his his next big big project which I better not say too much about um but is going to be a big exciting project about Evolution and sex um I'm going to hopefully provide at least some of the music for um so yeah that's all still going on that's very fun and we've got some new kind of social media superstars in the lab now we've got um there's a a student called um Sally leage has been doing um sort of rotation project in my lab and she um she won uh there's a British newspaper called The Guardian she won um the short video contest for that with a video about Evolution and she's GNA possibly be in some BBC children's Wildlife show and everything it's it's all very exciting I I don't know why they why I end up with students who are such social media Superstars but it's brilliant it's great absolutely nothing to do with me I don't very lucky so if we can get back to your research but we can stick with humans so you had uh your group produced a paper a little while ago on how selflessness is Sexy Can you tell us a bit about that and the uh media response to it um okay well I I should confess with this particular paper that something that I um came in sort of um well probably I was going to say halfway through but actually probably even more towards the end than that so I shouldn't take too much credit for the the whole um idea um but it was it was really neat actually um so it was a a project which involved um getting people to rate the attractiveness of of people's faces on cards um and um other than the picture of somebody's face there was some information about what kind of person they were so I had some kind of neutral information like you know this person likes going to the cinema or enjoys the films of Leonardo DiCaprio whatever or had some bit of information about how um altruistic they were so you know they volunteer charity or they you know look after disadvantaged children or something um and it all came out exactly how you expect so um so people found more altruistic people more attractive um and it was more important for women than it was for men and when it came to long-term relationships it was more important than for short-term relationships and for men for short-term relationships didn't make any difference they don't care in fact it had a slight negative effect so men seem to prefer women that were not altruistic it seem to be a turn girl I need you making my dinner quit feeding those straight cats yeah oh dear sure that was B I was amused to see in the uh in the paper then the example for the I think the altruistic was you know feeding disadvantaged and the neutral was really likes watching Torchwood and I was just thinking is that neutral I see why people would not find that a sexy thing yeah I'm assuming they weren't all based around uh how much you enjoy Doctor Who spin-offs um yes so I I wasn't involved in that that end of things um but I'm reliably informed that it's it's kind of tricky to actually come up with genuinely neutral things because I'm say yeah because there's there's variation in people's per personal preferences so um uh yeah there there's maybe no no such thing as a truly neutral statement um yeah I don't know that's that's the world of psychology which is not one that I'm too familiar with um I found the the media response was it wasn't that wild actually I thought this would go crazy but yeah there's there was plenty of um stories about it but it wasn't like uh there was no sort of and finally in the daily sport or whatever daily The Daily Star or Sunday sports does that still exist I don't know um and I wasn't called a bofin which was very disappointing that's still my ambition called a bofin by a newspaper I'm trying hard well with your with your work on aging and and uh sexual competition and all that I'm sure that you have a lot of interactions with the media as people try and extrapolate your work with dropa to what it might mean for the George cloes Of The World um H have you had much other media feedback or cases where the media just maybe reaches a little bit too far than what the science is actually talking about um probably the worst one actually was um a fairly a fairly kind of innocuous paper we had which just looked at transcriptomic responses to um receiving a a seminal fluid rece receiving sex peptide so transcriptomic changes in females after receiving sex peptide and um daily male headlines was all about how sex Alters genes in women so they didn't even vaguely pretend it was UN fruit fled um and it was no kind of hint that it was anything to do with sort of gene expression it was like having sex will change your genes so I was it was just a yeah it wasn't even a wasn't a particularly exciting paperwor well I mean it's nice bit of science but I I didn't think it would be that I never crossed my mind that actually make it into the media and then you get um The Daily Mail which is like it's ridiculous widely read now isn't it saying something stupid about it um when things like when things like that come up I'm never sure if someone comes across your paper and directly they're like oh female transcript changes from sex with male or if it's like this telephone game effect where it becomes you know sort of a little bit of change over time that ends up with this like grossly sort of maladjusted title yeah I I wonder that too actually um but yeah I've have no idea I mean a lot of the papers seem to get that stuff direct from the University press offices um the the press release so that's that usually seems to work out okay because you have some control over that press release but then yeah maybe you're right maybe then other newspapers see that first newspaper article and then just modify a bit you have sort of Chinese whisper effect I don't know but um I don't know I try and take the attitude that I don't know if one one person in a thousand who gets exposed to this stuff actually like thinks about what it means in terms of science and gets interested in it um then well actually one in a thousand would be quite ambitious wouldn't it maybe one in 10,000 or 100,000 um then that's still a result i' would say I so I I wanted to just ask you quickly about um you had a really neat study recently that was very sort of broadly appealing where looking at how um competition might switch to cooperation um again and drop so can you tell us a bit about that yeah um so this was a paper we had um which um showed that when you have groups of competing males in fruit flies when they're all Brothers then um they seem to be less harmful to to females so generally being put with a group of males means that females will have reduced lifespan and fitness compared to if they just have sort of intermittent exposure um but yeah when the males are brothers they caught less and they fight with each other less they generally less harmful to the females um so yeah made a few splashes in the headlines I'm just going to correct you slightly there um in the sense that I'm not sure to regard it as cooperation so much as just slightly reduced conflict it's not like all of a sudden uh you know picking up little bits of yeast and taking them to the female and being all nice still being pretty mean just marginally less mean if they were still cooperation in my book Les me um so yeah this this this I think it made the New York Times They quite a nice little article about it um I was quite surprised at how good the science reporting was about this one actually there was no kind of wild claims I what it would um I don't know well you could use your imagination to try and work out what kind of media headlines he could try and make from that sort of thing so are you interested in doing any more kind of work on kin selection Theory or um well yes specifically interested in it the experiments are an absolute nightmare um because um know putting a bunch of flies together and and measuring lifespan and egg production is one thing but then when you've got to make families and um that's just oh it's it's it's a huge amount of work it's it like much more than doubles the amount of um setting up work so um yeah we are we are following this up we're doing some work um the lead author on that study pal carzo is um thinking about um some future experiments to answer some of the questions that were kind of posed in that experiment so we found this one of the the odd things we found was that when you have a group that consists of two brothers and an unrelated male the unre unrelated male um seems to Father loads more of The Offspring so you'd expect that like the null hypothesis would be that that father a third each but actually the unrelated half of The Offspring and the the two brothers were only sharing the other half um so yeah one of the things we're doing is trying to work out why that is um and um there's there's the questions as to how flies tell who each other is so whether they actually can say this fly is genetically related to me or whether they need to grow up in the same vial or something you know there's a sort of familiarity effect or something like that so there there's tons of questions that we need to sort out sorry about that we're all fighting who's going to go next um do you go to the fly meetings I've never been to a fly meeting actually no you're I mean a lot of dropa work is a bit dry maybe a little bit boring but like you're doing really cool stuff I wondered if you were like yeah I own this fly meeting I'm the only one doing something exciting um yeah I'm not quite sure had to respond to this now you're like maybe thinking you should go um so from what I've heard about the fly meetings they're fun in the sense a huge conference there's lot of really exciting stuff going on there but um I guess like this there you know probably tens of thousands of people working on fruit flies at any one time um and the vast majority of those are going to be doing mular and cell biology and not have that much interested in behavior and evolution maybe increasingly behavior um but it's it's not traditionally a sort of a forum for evolutionary biologists I think as I understand it um I'd be happy to have somebody from fly meeting come and beat me up for getting that horribly wrong um so yeah I've not been to one of them but they sound exciting just by scale if nothing else because they're absolutely massive I can't remember how big but like much bigger than any conference I've ever been to um I thought e like the evolution the European Evolution meetings were big but they dwarfed in comparison to the fly meetings I think yeah yeah I think I mean I've I've never been to a fly meeting I did my PhD on seans though and I went to the seans meeting which is much smaller they're often like exhausting you need a little bit of you know some paper on like pinnipeds or something weird being thrown in some excitement um so yeah High big was a CA Elegance meting then uh maybe 6,000 maybe that's not that's Prett that's a massive meeting in my world yeah but I mean the society for Neuroscience meetings are like 30 35,000 people really okay no I've never been to a conference that size yeah I don't know how C you must just completely take over a town or a city yeah also if you see someone's talk you have to find them right away because you'll never see them again right yeah right it's like bigger than the town I grew up I I guess yeah I guess um yeah I grew up in a town of five 5,000 people so it's ridiculous um yeah I guess my favorite meetings tend to be ones which is sort of 50 or 100 people something like that where you pretty pretty much get to know everyone at the meeting at some point um they've been the most valuable ones to me in the past um so I'm not saying that very big meetings aren't valuable but just kind of if I've got if I get a choice I'll go for the little ones I think yeah the specifically about fly seminal fluid proteins or something like yeah I totally hear that well unfortunately we're pretty much out of time uh where can people keep up with your lab's work on on all this evolutionary biology as well as checking out the latest dance routines and music shows that that you're putting on um I've got a fancy new website actually called wbab.com um and I'm on Twitter um yeah that's I haven't made a Facebook page yet um so yeah wab.com or the Oxford University website I have an online presence I try to anyway I've been told that would be helpful well I I I think it is but then when I say this to other people I often just kind of get laughed at um so I don't know maybe there's a bit of a split at the moment in in Academia about definitely I think for a lab I think having a website and upto-date information is really important when you're trying to you know recruit and put your work out there well I seem to keep attracting social media Superstars into my lab so um maybe it's working maybe it's cause effect must be doing something right there yeah I hope so awesome well for everybody listening at home uh you can find us online as well by looking for the breaking bio blog where you can find all of our old episodes at breing bio.com you can follow us on Twitter at breaking bio and of course you can find us on Facebook as well by searching for the breaking bio podcast that's it for this week I hope you'll join us next week with a new [Music] guest
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Japanese prisoners of war in the Soviet Union | Wikipedia audio article
after World War two there were from 560 thousand to 760 thousand Japanese personnel in the Soviet Union and Mongolia in turn to work in labor camps espouse of them it is estimated that between 60,000 to 347 thousand died in captivity the majority of the approximately 3.5 million Japanese armed forces outside Japan were disarmed by the United States in Kuomintang China and repatriated in 1946 Western Allies had taken 35,000 Japanese prisoners between December 1941 and the 15th of August 1945 ie before the Japanese capitulation the Soviet Union held the Japanese Pao's much longer and used them as a labor force topic history the majority of Japanese who were held in the USSR did not consider themselves as prisoners of war and referred to themselves as internees because they voluntarily laid down their arms after the official capitulation of Japan ie after the end of the military conflict the number of Japanese prisoners captured in combat was very small after the defeat of the Kwantung Army in Manchuria Japanese pals were sent from Manchuria Korea South Sakhalin and curl islands to Primorsky Krai Khabarovsk Krai Krasnoyarsk Krai Kazakhstan South Kazakhstan province and Zombo province brihat mongol assr an Uzbek SSR in 1946 49 labor camps for Japanese pals under the management of gu p VI housed about 500,000 persons in addition there were two camps for those convicted of various crimes handling of japanese pals was in line with the USSR state defence committee decree no 9898 CC about receiving accommodation and labor utilization of the japanese army prisoners of war opreem Rasmus Andy Trudeau them iceballs of on ivona plenty of pankaj army dated by the 23rd of august 1945 a significant number of japanese were assigned to the construction of the baikal-amur mainline over 200,000 persons in 8 camps in komsomolsk-on-amur two camps for two railroad branches so vets kaya gaben ray chika railroad station cabarrus cry is vest covr our station cabarrus cry crest my azaria cheetah oblast patient and novo Grishin o near coots Co Oblast the repatriation of Japanese POW started in 1946 those remaining after 1950 were detained having been convicted of various crimes the release of these persons continued from 1953 under various amnesties and the last major group of 10 25 japanese pals was released on the 23rd of december 1956 from then on some Japanese pals were released in small groups including those who would only return in the 1990s following the collapse of the Soviet Union some Japanese prisoners who had been held for decades who by this point had married and had started families elected not to permanently return to Japan there are about 60 associations of Japanese former internees and members of their families today the Soviet Union did not provide the lists of Pao's and did not allow the relatives of those pals who died in captivity to visit their burial sites this became possible after the dissolution of the Soviet Union topic Japanese internees and Russians historian s cruising itself Dean of the Department of History of the Irkutsk Estate University one of the first researchers of the topic interviewed thousands of former intern YZ and came to the following conclusion Siberian internment the Japanese term was a unique and paradoxical phenomenon many of them have nostalgic and sentimental recollection of this period of their life in their memoirs and recollections they drew a distinction between the attitude of the Soviet state machine and ordinary Russian people unlike Germans Japanese were not associated in the perception of Russians with Nazi atrocities in the Russian land although initially the attitude of Russians was hostile under the influence of Soviet propaganda what is more romantic relations between Japanese internees and Russian women were not uncommon for example in the city of Conn's Krasnoyarsk Krai about 50 Japanese married locals and state Japanese noticed the overall poverty of the Russian population they also met Soviet political prisoners in the gulag prison camps abundant in Siberia at the time and acquired a good understanding of the Soviet system all of them recall the ideological indoctrination during the compulsory daily studies of democracy however only a very small number of them embraced communism however many of the inmates do not share kuznetsov views and retain negative memories of being robbed of personal property and the brutality of camp personnel harsh winters and exhausting labor one of these critics as Haruo Minami who later became one of the most famous singers in Japan Minami because of his harsh experiences in the labor camp became a well-known anti-communist most Japanese were captured in Soviet occupied Manchuria northeast China and were taken to Soviet POW camps many Japanese died while they were detained in the POW camps estimates of the number of these deaths vary from 60,000 based on deaths certified by the USSR to 347,000 the estimate of American historian William F Nemo including 254 thousand dead and ninety three thousand missing based on the number of Japanese servicemen and civilian exile URIs registered in Manchuria at the time of surrender who failed to return to Japan quickly some remained in captivity until December 1956 eleven years after the war before they were allowed to return to Japan the wide disparity between Soviet records of death and the number of Japanese missing under Soviet occupation as well as the whereabouts of the remains of paths are still grounds of political and diplomatic contention at least on the Japanese side according to the map formulated by combining two maps published by the former Ministry of Health and Welfare and the current Ministry of Labour health and welfare of the Japanese government there were more than 70 labor camps for the Japanese prisoners of war within the Soviet Union because of the difficulty in retrieving formal USSR government records the numerical data are based on reports obtained from former palace and elsewhere by the former Ministry of Health and Welfare and the current Ministry of Labour health and welfare of the Japanese government the Japanese government is disinterring the remains of the Japanese pouce who died in the USSR more data may be anticipated for example at sites such as HTTP colon slash slash wwm h lu JP's Eisaku / 200 9/11 / l one HTML investigation of records regarding persons deceased during detention in Siberia Ministry of Labour health and welfare policy reports 2009 topic Japanese ex internees today various associations of former internees seek compensation for their wartime treatment and for pensions from the Japanese government an appeal to the Commission on Human Rights says Japan had a moral and legal responsibility to compensate the victims of its aggression yet the Japanese government had so far refused to provide compensation to former prisoners of war for their period of forced labor in Siberia although it had made concessions to prisoners from other regions the veterans had sued the Japanese government in 1981 for compensation and had eventually been issued with labor certificates by the Russian government as requested by the court but their appeal had been rejected those who chose to stay in Russia and eventually decided to return had to deal with significant Japanese bureaucracy a major problem as the difficulty in providing the documentary confirmation of their status Toshima sama Goro a 77 year old former POW was permitted to visit Japan as late as in 1998 he served eight years of labor camps and after the release was ordered to stay in Siberia tetsuro Akiko is the last remaining Japanese POW living in Kazakhstan topic research in Russia research into the history of the Japanese pouce has become possible in Russia only since the second half of the 1980s with glass dust in the dissolution of the Soviet Union until this time the only public information about any world war tube house taken by the Soviet Union with some numbers of prisoners taken after opening the secret soviet archives the true scope of the POW labor in the soviet union has become known and the topic has been discussed in the press japanese pals have become the subject of the historians of siberia in the russian far east who gained access to local archives of NKVD MVD and CPSU a number of candidate PhD dissertations had been presented about Soviet POW in various regions in 2000 a fundamental collection of documents related to Pao's in the USSR was published which contains significant information about Japanese in the 2000s several books about Japanese pals were published in Russia about 2000 memoirs of Japanese pals in the Soviet Union have been published in Japan topic in fiction the Japanese novelist Toyoko Yamasaki wrote the 1976 novel fumo jatai about an imperial army staff officer captured in Manchuria his captivity and return to Japan to become a businessman this has been made into a film in two television dramas a dramatization of experiences as a Soviet pal form a portion of the latter part of the epic movie trilogy the human condition by masaki kobayashi kiichi nobuo reported his experiences about Soviet camps in his the notes of Japanese soldier in USSR online comic series the South Korean movie my way 2011 also shows the treatment of Japanese and Japanese recruited Koreans in Soviet POW camps topics see also Japanese prisoners of war in World War 2 Soviet invasion of Manchuria Japanese people in Russia German prisoners of war in the Soviet Union Italian prisoners of war in the Soviet Union Romanian prisoners of war in the Soviet Union finished prisoners of war in the Soviet Union topic references topic further reading Japanese POW in primary 1945 to 1949 issue one pal labor in coal industry upon ski bone aplenty B / more 1945 to 1949 gg 5.1 truth bone aplenty v Google no drama Salinas T Vladivostok gosu Darst vonage archived primorsko go craw morgoth's untii I'm Adam GI Neville's gogo 2005 152 PP in Russian issued to pal labor in various spheres of the notional economy of the Primorsky Krai upon ski bone aplenty vie for more 1945 to 1949 Gigi document ego Souter Stefano go archive a primorsko go Krav I pissed too Trude vana plenty vo trouser and rod no-go hoses - at primorsko go craw 2006 ISBN five eight three four 303 55 - Nicole Piper War and memory victim identity and the struggle for compensation in Japan war and Society 2001 vol 19 issue 1 PP 131 - 148 topic external links the notes of Japanese soldier in USSR historical timetable of Japanese prisoners returning in 1945 to 1958 in Japanese saleon do you know yin yang Jingwei be out japanese Pao's in siberia
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Soil Analysis by Natasa Chatziioannou and Christos Karystinos
let's think of the apple as the Earth okay let's see that's the air how much of the apples do you think it's soiled I love it what the skin does everybody agree inside the seeds inside as a volume let's say this is here first of all isn't there 70 worth it yeah the bill yeah you all agree with the pill um because like I guess I don't know about Stone couldn't be attacking like a Cold Soil because you can't actually grow anything on it like okay you're getting you're getting deeper you're getting deeper faster okay you were very right it's the pill the pill so it's 10 of the whole volume of the air that they actually we can call Soil the rest is just other things it's tonic plates is you're going deeper and deeper and things I don't really know to talk about but it's not about soil and how much of this soil of the bill we can use to grow our food right now the most fertile is between 10 and 15 per centimeters maybe some places deeper if it's more fertile throughout it depends on salt soil type okay do you know what percentage more or less everybody I can say less than one percent it's it's close to one percent though so if this is Earth I will try to do that like soil in the sense that uh don't touch it so this is like as briefly is soil that we talk about yes the death so this is Earth this is where we can grow our food and this is where actually our life depends on and not the whole no space of the Apple not just certain parts just this is and this one percent every year we're losing a lot of it why because we're not giving back to the system you're not building the server and we are also like in two ways in a material way we are not giving back and in the quality way we are destroying the fertility of the soil itself like the microbial biodiversity is going down as well so in two ways no I wanted uh isn't a big part of the one percent like 70 percent of that one percent used to own farm animals so we already have like there are many reasons why but what is the mechanism we're losing top soil tilling is also a reason dealing is a very good reason I know you know wait [Music] and take it yes that is practice that is using like thousands of years now with different machines microorganisms what is yeah what is the mechanism that we are using topsoil what is it what erosion can you explained or by like like any means floods or like because of like Wing by Water by by lots of things where does this go to The Rivers I don't know how to down like and then to that yeah so I there is another way and is huge in this region for example that is cities but we are losing we are using top soil because we are using we're putting Concrete On Top Soil where we could actually grow is actually very very nice if you go around for example here in this town you will see the new new houses that have been built in the last 50 years and they are taking all the countryside and actually there were fields around even this building that was yeah yes yes so we got to the point of why we want to talk about soil to understand why we want to talk about soil because our life depends on that and we have a huge problem of losing topsoil and if you don't do something about it there is some prediction about 20 50 or 2060 that we would actually not be able to grow food this is not climate change about saving dolphins and it's actually we are screwed if we don't do something about the way we grow food I think the first thing is that people are completely unaware of this yeah that's why we're talking about it yeah it is the people don't know that there is a problem they think yes there is all this soil around so it's very it's very recently that people started to care about soil and talk about soil not about land but talk about what there is inside soil is very recently that actually scientists started studying the life inside soil and we discovered that soil is such a living organism that we can't even imagine there is more life inside so that probably there is outside of the soil think about it the thing you're working on has more life potentially has more life this soil does not but potentially can have more life that you can see on the top of the soil and we're talking about birds animals trees plants thousands species of plants but there's millions or billions of types of microbes of worms of insects that live below the Earth and we don't interact with them because we don't give importance of what is underneath our feet but I'm here to give a bit of importance of what is underneath our feet because actually it's one of the keys to reverse what we are doing to to the Earth to understand the soil so that's why there's so many more and more enthusiasts about soil we talk about soil we're going to tear soil and soil and soil and also I'm very recent on that I'm not very specialist but I became very enthusiastic through some books and through observing and interacting with with soil um so what we're gonna do about soil is that we're gonna do a Hands-On uh activity um splitting into groups and we're going to do something very simple but very uh how to call it pedagogical about our interaction with the soil and it's gonna be first about the inorganic um texture of of soil so soil in in a way in a very mathematical way the inorganic part of the soil let's say the more dead part of the soil is is consisting of clay sand and sealed okay which is just different size of particles that have put here the sizes of the particles you don't really care to know them but anyway so the the the smallest um it goes from the smallest to the to the biggest particles and this is the texture of the soil you all know Clay you all have touched clay and you know that clay has some properties what is the properties of clay it's sticking it's sticky when it gets wet yeah if not then it's not sticky yes and it doesn't allow water to hold down it doesn't allow water to go down okay nutrients and retains water so in that way can be it has plasticity now that's why humans have been using clay to make all kinds of things yeah just to become very hard and hit the pressure yes and then you can process it and then do lots of things and what about sand filter filters let the water down no and air and air also passed through so it's very simple we can all understand it with our senses but it's not a science but to understand somewhere in between so we just created Shield sealed s-i-l-d so all these are invention of humans actually for serbians [Music] what I need to say is that it doesn't really matter how it's called so yeah what I'm trying to say is that is a human invention that like in nature nature doesn't say ah I'm clay ah I'm sad oh I'm still okay thank you very much so it's just dividing categories of molecules of molecules just that we can actually recognize them and sealed that you can keep in mind that is something in between sand and clay that's all you need to to keep in mind if you want if you don't want to so there's a very easy way to understand when we are looking at the soil to understand what it is made from in a texture way not all of it but in a texture way because we have gravity and gravity can Source different size of molecules not gonna go very deep but it's a very fun and easy way to understand what the soil we're looking at is made from many people know that just by just looking it and touching it you can know after some experience what is it made for from but the most like precise that you can actually do good percentage of it uh it's doing a jar test that's why I have six jars here we have six jars so I'm gonna ask you to split in six groups okay so find some soil go around it doesn't have to be from outside here explore find a soul that you would like to know what it is made from and then put another one third of of water and then the rest just leave it open just leave it empty okay and reminder one third of soil it can be even a bit more but it's okay I'm saying just a bit of water and then just a bit of empty space here okay because we need to oh yeah when you finish you close it and then you start and then you start doing the barman and then you leave it on the place so we did a jar test okay and in order to actually you want to taste the soil if you want to be to be sure what it is you would take three samples the sale from each plate just to be sure that the one is not going uh it's not going to mislead you or something at all and so you do a yarn test while due to the challenge okay for fun yes you can do for fun but there's also some important reasons why you can make tomatoes one very good one very common reason is to know what type of soil you have so that you can know what type of plants can thrive in this type of soil so first things um if you're gonna design something or you want to plan it's good to plan some things and you're gonna have a list and you can find many resources of which type of plants like which type of soil okay and I'm not gonna explain why some plants like some types of soil it's a bit more complicated but what you need to keep in mind is that some plants will have a hard time in a more clay soil and Will some other plants will have hard time in in a sand soil and this nature already knows so these plants will not grow normally there but you as a human would say I want the papaya in a in a sandy soil in the north of Europe where Navy is not a good idea this can show you okay and many things you can learn also by experience but this is also a very nice way to know what type of soil you have in your garden etc etc this also is used a lot in natural buildings so because natural ability you want to build with the soil you have next to you so you want to know exactly the percentage of sand and soil you have in order to make the mixture for making a cold for making clay sand a mixture and put straw and then build with it okay um it's technology but this is as as low deck as you can get you can do it in any type of place and so in order to make the measures normally you will have to wait 24 hours for all the particles to settle down by half an hour you already have an image of how much more or less is your um is the type of soil you have okay ah yes and faculty will be a couple of times we took different samples of the soil and but it is is this enough just to take a surface soil sample because we took one from 10 centimeters and one from 30 centimeters yeah it depends from what for what type of thing you wanted if you want to do natural building normally you would go deeper than 30 centimeters if you want to know about plants that was my intention now when you go on top soil I mean topsoil you can put a bit out but then you don't want to dig very deep and there's many techniques that you can go on to finding different sampling you even if for some AdWords you even have to go to one meter down but this is more details but I'm not trying to give the general image but thank you for uh just to recognize I would say like whatever you do just take take a little bit uh what we call viewers take it a little bit by the side and collect more than mineral one the Dead yes so um also the living the organic matter as I said here is also good sometimes to understand how much percentage of topsoil you have in your in your farm if you are interested in so just by staying for some minutes there I mean you can clearly say the difference between two layers okay at least two layers the two layers are very clear to understand the difference because they're very Sandy and very Rocky sometimes you also find rocks that you put inside and they go to the bottom and then there is a there's a thing and this is a mixture of clay and shield okay and when it really settles down you may find that there is three layers okay you may also find there is only two layers because this means that you don't have any silt or you don't have any probably no seal no clay it's hard to find so then uh you go back to this you go back to analyzing now you go to analyzing things brain now until now we're only using our senses we see we smell we try to understand what type of soil we have and now we go back to the science part of that which is like you try to measure if you want to be very accurate you try to measure of how much percentage of each you have and then you can make out actually what type of soil you have that soil 70 percent of 30 some 40 chill 30 clay let's say why do we care about that well it goes back to what I was saying that um do I have a nice soil or do I have a problematic soil let's say that has lots of sand and very low clay so I'm I'm gonna adapt to this type of soil or I can go wild and I can go on whatever I want to do okay so here I draw um [Music] okay of which you can do you can find the a percentage of two and you can find the type of soil you have and I put the Bingo here because the type of soil that we permaculture is love and agriculturists should love but they don't know about it many it is the loam okay loam is a good percentage of silt clay and sand because you actually need all of it your soil you want to be Sandy the water goes out clay to keep some moisture and nutrients and shield both inside there [Music] yes I think yeah it's not because percentages are a little bit like yes yes yes and there are words exactly describing these types of soil yes I mean if you ask your grandparents or whatever they probably have words that they were using for types of soil but now we are not using but they used to know that but just looking and actually in the garden of the neighbor they have more of that but in our snow and ah you go to this mountain under this cave you will find the so yes ready it's ready there is also a way to to describing sometimes areas and landscapes in the like on the local so yes [Music] there are also is something in between sand and clay it's not it's not like let's say a clay has the nutrients sand is this and this all does everything but just in different um I would answer in this but for example in the water let's say the way that we filter it like in its levels something stays so this means that we have more diversity of how the water is is floating for example we have only sun because you might claim maybe we can compact easily so when we have diversity again again so the water creates a nice sleep and flow also the fungi is a nicely and like um parts of oxygen to pass so it is creating more let's say inhabited Place more oxygen friendly Place more time best place for a microorganic to live so I want to see more about the family the plants and the microorganisms need air and water yeah that's why it's perfect if it's Sandy and Clay together so we we we started with the inorganic texture of soil which is something you can grasp on and very easily understand what is what we are talking about because it's very close to the uh mathematical way of seeing things but this is just the base to go away from that like we from our countries to start from that but we don't really care so much about that what we really get is life inside soil but in order for life to exist and Thrive we have to have a good balance of of that okay this is all the this is why we're talking about that like soil is the base of Life of all what we see above it so if you have a healthy soil you have a healthy ecosystem and for example when we don't have low but we have another category we just maintain yourself but we don't say ah we have a lot to play let's put some sand in it no we don't do it you know what to do if you complete combine clay and sun and water and mix it so yeah will make plastic for the walls so when we have a clay soil with just organized our garden or our work for a clay soil so and we beef on top of it so we create rice over it in a sandy soil also we don't put sand in a clay soil yeah English [Music] yeah and that's the difference between the intervening philosophy of of going to an ecosystem and they're observing and interactive philosophy You observe what you have and you play with it and then the balance will probably come in 100 years because there is a way to restore the balance or maybe the ecosystem there it has to to thrive with this type of soil because it was always like that you don't want to bring it to your measures you just want to work with but you have okay on that and what do we Define as unhealthy soil because I understood but then we have plenty of choice okay good we're going to that very good question to to introduce yourself and so what we do care about our soil a lot except that is the organic matter that we have in in our soils okay and I have a sample of uh I stole from the neighbor a bit of soil that is full of organic matter and maybe you can check the difference between the soil you took and this type of soil does anybody know how does a soil full of organic matter I'm sure you have to save it and tested it thanks yes how how does it how do you understand that it's full of organic they except from putting a dog collar dark color dark color you know you capture yeah [Music] it feels like spongy yeah [Music] I guess if there's a box and you know insects inside the soil that means organic if there is what insects and uh yeah it's full of life yes full of life probably you find headphones we found we found and yes very good and where do you where do you remember yourself finding this inside finding this type of soil down from a tree if you take out the leaves then you would find this beautiful amazing Ridge soil that's been there for many and many and many many years and we've been building up homes can you just mention how long does it take to make one centimeter of the soil ah you can say if you thousands of years so when we pollute just a centimeter of the soil it's gonna take thousands of years to give it back to make it yes natural yes it's a natural process but if we Implement culture want to speed up this process that's the difference and that's that there's a difference between natural farming and permaculture we are not gonna wait for the natural mechanism to build what we have already destroyed but we want to speed up this process and bring restorative systems as fast as possible and this can be controversial we can talk a lot about that but this is what permaculture is bringing in and it's generally a general acceptance among permaculture is the great intervening in the natural ecosystems in order to bring them back and it's a necessity because we see climate change destruction of the earth and we want to go against that to regenerate these systems so it's like a fighting Power of destructive power no we're gonna regenerate [Music] we want to gain because the other thing is going faster yes you say that one centimeter plane is it needs thousands of hair to be built and one killed like it made it some years of our human Revolution made it but can you imagine that a machine can come and do like this and all the top soil pull up over there so it's like is needing to to accelerate the process so we've got very deep see the faces like maybe maybe take a second close your eyes take a second close your eyes you take some moments also think about the activity and what we have talked about right now maybe digest all this information because I know it's a lot and maybe as we have closed eyes you can imagine one type of life you think exists inside the soil yes okay now you can open your eyes and I will ask how many of you have seen mushrooms right growing growing not just bite them in a forest in a forest yeah of course sorry sorry sorry [Music] so how many of you have seen mushroom series your hands in the forest ah very nice okay very nice because it's actually now it's if you live in cities not very common to see a so we are very lucky as humans see the evidence of the existence of fungi so mushrooms are the fruits of fungi and somebody will ask what is a fungi yeah why it's a fun guy because that's um like it's very it's very hard to um it has a place in a hooker system that's very hard to yes it's the biggest organism on Earth [Music] fungi actually invented so if it wasn't for fungi it wouldn't be for soy if it wasn't for soil it wouldn't be for us [Music] it's our creator full standards yeah it's a fun guide the weapon itself is the fun way yes so fungi is transporting nutrients in itself and it's the ways actually growing so as as you said it's like neurons growing inside the soil searching for nutrients in order to give back to the rest of the fungi so that way it expands a lot and then when it's time to spread then it gives the mushrooms the fungus with a mushrooms yeah and with this force it just goes more and more far away there's many functions about fungi from curing cancer to eating to to create to mushrooms to amazing a lot of things you can do and already does fungi and it's very recently that we are actually studying pan right to give medicine to get all kinds of things from fungi and why I mentioned fungi because it's a one of the two basic elements of the living organism of soil that we destroy by killing and we destroy it with many practices that we're using now in agriculture and not only agriculture but I mostly like it's mind-blowing because we cannot even imagine because it's a completely different way of functioning with what we know and then I feel that uh it's a little bit like with margins it's always the best place when we are in front of something very different than we are and I think people are very confused like we are very confused with these mushrooms and then it's just the fruit or something that is happening we don't have pictures of like we need pictures like this is an elephant and this is fungi and we don't like it's just plants and then there is no Center and brain and it's completely different than us and I somehow feel it's like the very but in soil it's a realistic thing it's like embodiment of connectedness but not over you know not of like a this is a bridge connecting these two things because that's how I think no it's the connecting everything and moving things around and I I find it like my brain is in a very good place of being like details about thinking about it yeah so watching the new seasons of Star Trek [Music] yes and it's I think there is also a parallel uh development of our understanding of the universe and Humanity itself that we are going towards organizations and structures that are more Network life and appear together with our discoveries of a of fungi and mycelium as an existence studying it so it's fantastic the parallelism of these two and it's it's awesome like we are discovering nature now actually and we are discovering how we can actually mimic nature and if much more efficient than the way we're doing it until now it's like ah
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Q1-When selecting Indigenous texts for use in classrooms, what would you suggest to teachers?
there's so many guidelines to follow for selecting indigenous text I I think however one of the most important things is keeping it very authentic so thinking about your authors as being indigenous or the illustrators as being indigenous and ensuring that the book is written with indigenous people and not about indigenous people the other thing you want to make sure about is appropriating right is it how is it how is it showing indigenous people is it through historic lens or a contemporary so always making sure that the pictures are right for the content yeah you want to make sure that it's not perpetuating stereotypes so one is to look at the characters what they're wearing you want to think about dates when was it written you want to make sure that it's authentic that it was written with an indigenous person not a boat indigenous people I think teachers really need to consider their texts that they're using in their classroom looking at authorship looking at who's writing the text especially when you're looking at First Nations Metis in you it literature trying to really make purposeful choices around authenticity so if people are in doubt maybe opening the jacket flaps when an author identifies his or her home territory Settlement matey settlement are they from the north are they from a First Nation are they from a matey settlement or community across Canada really most indigenous peoples will always identify themselves and the land that they're from where they hail from and so that's an inherent way with one another how we identify one another so when we do introductions we always say who we are where we come from and usually when we say where we come from it tells us who our parents are and it tells us who our grandparents are so it's a great way to kind of research just simply by opening up the flap of a book and and checking to see that relationship another way of course is to check your illustrator and of course we know that we indigenous litter literature in Canada in the US or Turtle Island as we call it we see a lot of relationship taking place between non-indigenous authors and and/or non-indigenous illustrators and indigenous authors and that's that's beautiful that's part of reconciliation but ensuring that there's a mutually respectful relationship and that that that author illustrator has those permissions to kind of navigate you know certain stories so really following protocol making sure that protocol is honored other pieces that they might consider when they're selecting indigenous texts are how old are the text you know have they been in the library for 50 years when were they published are they 20 years or older considering do they portray assumptions stereotypes bias myth is it the old Hollywood kind of cowboys and Indians theme do you see children in stereotypical garments and loin cloths and one feather kind of like the Disney misrepresentation so really considering are they telling the everyday story are they telling the everyday lived reality of going to the grocery store or riding in your minivan or making your way to hockey so there's a time and a place for creation stories myths legends absolutely when the snow falls and when certain people are gifted to share those stories but when we're picking indigenous literature for classrooms as educators as teacher practitioners really trying to represent our children in diverse ways just as we see multicultural children presented in respectful ways in the classroom we're trying to ensure that indigenous youth have those same opportunities and with that lens all children will be able to see indigenous children living in a positive good way I think it's important to pick text from all around Turtle Mountain and really telling indigenous stories parallel indigenous stories Universal and indigenous stories common themes because really they have such a thread weaving through all of the stories and when children can kind of draw out those commonalities and see those parallels it's telling it's telling a very similar story throughout turtle map Turtle Island I think if you're a teacher and you want to bring indigenous literature into your classroom first of all I say a huge must each oh here's the great news about 2017 it is now physically impossible to read everything that's ever been published in the realm of indigenous literature so here's where I come in I want everybody to write to me at Van Camp Richard at gmail.com write to me if you have let's say a reluctant reader who's Cree or you have somebody who's a Jib way or you have somebody who's cleat rode na who loves graphic novels or our first readers or one-page novels get in touch with me I will put out my feelers because I read indigenous literature all the time I will help you find the indigenous writer for you and your students and your classrooms never be afraid to actually just reach out every author's dream is to know that their work is being taught in classrooms get in touch with them or get in touch with me I'll put you in touch with them put me to work you have me for life
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Kyrie Irving discusses the Nets' win
is there anything about the way that they guarded you in the fourth quarter or were you just more aggressive and kind of taking the mindset that you needed to put more of a stamp on the game I think you're right just being very aggressive down the stretch and having that resilient attitude to just go at them you know as you can see me and Scotty were drawing back and forth a little bit and uh that's gonna be part of the game that's the psychological aspect and uh I'm never going to shy from that challenge but we want to get the best shot possible down the stretch a few times we have some empty possessions in the fourth quarter but uh I think we set ourselves up to have that type of fourth quarter in the third quarter when we're playing very aggressive on the defensive end and going into halftime we came in with a a good feel for the game and we just knew we had to give the game a little bit more in terms of our physicality and as we talked about going against the Pelicans I think they hit us first and then we got down in a hole in the first quarters uh you know dating back to our first preseason game I think we were like 99 to 58 it was like minus 41. so our first quarter is we've been starting off very slow and we don't want that to become a habit so when we're in the game and we're playing defense then I feel like uh we can stick to the game plan a little bit more and then find some opportunities to attack them so uh Kyrie pascals yakim had quite the game tonight he had a triple double 37 points uh what can you say about his offensive growth uh during his time in the league uh you watch social media right this summer I think we saw as many uh spicy P clips and Ricoh Hines runs as we could possibly see uh just you know as a Hooper watching uh at home I definitely felt his presence this summer around Los Angeles and I think other guys can say the same that uh P was put in a lot of work and it's showing for itself and he's going to continue to get better and this team is is a well-oiled machine the Pascal was 15 for 20. I think yeah I mean this guy was off the charts and uh triple double is uh probably going to be happening most nights I don't want to say he's going to average triple double but I think he has the capability of being a triple double guy of just how many pieces they have and how well they played through him so it was good to go against him but I'm glad we got the win tonight Kai when you guys really got rolling the the crowd kind of came with you for a while and then when it becomes a back and forth game down the stretch how much did you kind of feel that energy from uh The Stance energy is great and Barclays uh I think our fans can get a little antsy sometimes very hyper critical just what they're seeing out there in terms of uh us giving that Championship effort and when they're not seeing it they're going to let us know and I think we have our own ticker as a team as well of just wanting to build great habits great Championship habits and just leave it all out there whatever that looks like for us playing with a high IQ of course but just leaving it all out there and exhausting as much energy as you need to be there for your teammates um Kai you guys just all looked more comfortable out there the ball movement and everything you had an 18-1 run when you when you needed to do something I mean was this just trying to get past that first game and all being a little bit more familiar what was it yeah I was I was definitely happy that we got through opening night I was emotionally drained just you know I think other guys I don't know if they'll admit it to you guys but just the start of a season getting everybody tickets getting your nap in getting to the game arena early um I was out on the court and it was three of us shooting on one basket I didn't have my pants for my sister when I was getting ready for pregame like it just little little things on that night uh led up to kind of just us being pressured me feeling antsy and um I think tonight we just knew we had to settle in play hard and just let the game come to us and uh down the stretch go in that's really what it's about go taking wins
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Marinating Behind a Monastic Membrane ...Drop Into What is Deeper
foreign is anywhere there is practice I have found because Adam also has really been influenced by the monastic path in Christianity in our ecumenical Institute was very much grounded in this you have a daily discipline of something and you have a corporate communal practice which is a daily everyday daily life thing so having that as my 0 to 14 context and then 15 years in a monastery as a Buddhist nun that kind of monastic and communal framework that then he's really been influenced by the the monastic elements in Christianity and Christian mysticism that's really what we're both now wanting to head towards is a community that's both Buddhist and Christian in expression but that has this practice element a daily schedule and community and some kind of training some kind of study some kind of work some kind of rest a rhythm that allows folks to really drop in to what is deeper than what's happening on the surface and to feel this body of people that is doing the same thing it's not that everything I have received I just take unquestioningly like I want to recreate but but there is this there are elements of this monastic commitment and discipline that I know I just feel like it's so hard if you don't have that if you're trying to keep yourself spiritually afloat in this crazy world by yourself you're just using most of your energy to just keep the main things going so you only have a teeny bit of energy for your Spiritual Development but if you're in a community if you have this Rhythm Where You Are forced to stop basically forced to stop and let all the thinking of the mind kind of recede at least that's not what you're it's not motivating you can't just jump up and do that next task that your mind tells you you have to do you have to sit there you just have to marinate if you have that kind of consistency you just have much more energy in your mind your mind energy to look at these deeper questions which we really need to be looking at having come out of monastic life into this world and that moves so much faster I really am just seeing like wow it's not that it's not possible to live a deep and spiritual life outside of a monastic context it is it's just you have the wind is blowing right in your face all the time and with more people and with a structure with a little bit more of a membrane around you because that's something I really experienced living in the monastery I was behind a membrane I wasn't as accessible personally as a group we were very accessible but I didn't need to be accessible personally I didn't need people to be able to call me or I was there showing up to eat make beds to do walking meditation with the community so that's how I was needed and that's how I could offer I had this protection against all of the ways life really you know inserts itself and takes you away from what is always there under the surface this kind of ability to rest in what is what I really noticed when I left the monastery was wow I don't have any of that protection I have to do everything I have to do all the things that many people were doing in the monastery and so much more energy is going more outward I recognize that this is me personally for other people this more solitary or engaged life in the world that's really what they need or at different times in our life but I see for the way I was raised and the way I've lived the kind of way my mind easily gets scattered it's really helpful for me personally also to have a kind of structure and a kind of container that I'm not the only one responsible for creating when I look at my journey living in community for most of my life until I was 40 basically and even in college I chose the most communal settings to live in I have needed this time outside of community residential community and I I really experienced this I needed to individuate I needed to see how much it cost me to do all these things that were kind of just held in this larger field in the community I think that was really important for me to grow up actually to be lonely when I would sit there in my apartment in DC and eat by myself which I had always had people around me but pretty much to eat with like that very basic thing of eating your meals like alone I was like you know this is how a lot of people eat a lot of people are very lonely so all of that felt important for me to touch and to Taste and to know and also just to know I could take care of myself just me in an apartment I could take care of myself financially I could take care of myself socially take care of myself spiritually and that was still related to communities and teaching and engaging but it was an important I'm really glad my life has unfolded the way it's unfolded and now in this partnership like figuring out how do you live with another person okay I've figured out how to do this by myself but now now two paths have to blend and that's its own set of challenges and and gifts and and wonders I can see both of us because we both have this really strong monastic theme in our lives we're both heading back there or or wanting to kind of keep spiraling to that place of basically a more spiritually committed way of life where there are just certain things that aren't questioned both Adam and I feel like from the beginning of our relationship we were kind of guided like the way we came together it just felt like we were led to each other and the timing was so like exactly right like amazing a few months before he reached out to me he really started praying and saying I really feel like I to really complete my life now as a priest I need a partner and very soon we connected and a phase was finishing in my life that really allowed me then to be very it was like perfect timing for for me to meet Adam and as soon as we talked on our first Zoom call I finished the call it was two hours long I was like oh this is the person it was just a friendly call we'd never met but we were just connecting as friends and then this is the person and he had the same feeling and with the next Zoom call we were talking about me coming to New York so it was this immediate kind of recognition that I say that because the first time we really took a vacation together we went away to a friend's mountain house for a week and we just started talking about what are we each see in our future what's our vision for where we want to go and Within 30 minutes this thing it felt like a download it was like oh we want to be in an Eco Village we want to have a Buddhist Christian Community we want to grow food to live in harmony and loving service and stewardship of of the Earth we want to have this a Practice Center where other people and us can practice together a daily schedule but it was like like neither of us has had tension or questions or conflict was like oh yeah this is what we want we hadn't really talked about it until that point at all and then within 30 minutes it was oh this is what we want it really felt like it just came to us like we were being led that was a year and a half ago and it's still so we started this community that meets every month now a Buddhist Christian community of meditation and action every month we have a practice and there's a talk there's time for interacting connection we give some of the donations that come in go to children in Ukraine a young man in Delhi who lived in the ashram for homeless people that Adam worked in and is now wanting raising a family needs a car to be a taxi driver we're raising money for anyway so there's some action coming from that but that's the little seed of whatever might come in the future of some kind of residential Community maybe it's a training center and people start to join us maybe families or couples or single people over time where people have their own livelihoods but where we have some kind of common practice and then people come for a certain period of time to get trained and then this larger Community can start to build out eventually we've talked about wanting to have low income housing places for folks who without a lot of money who can live and practice if they would like that we would have our own little house but that we'd have a common place like a meditation hall or Chapel thing and then a dining area maybe a CSA is growing food on the land we're on or maybe there's like projects for permaculture or ecological Green Building designs and solar and wind and you know renewable energies it's a training place for that too where people from the local communities can get employment or training or something as part of what we're doing but that the heart of it is daily meditation prayer weekly coming together to share our insights our appreciations Maybe a monthly silent desert day we're ever fasting or time in silence solo practice prayer things like that where there's like a regular Rhythm and a grounding in study in practice in being present for each other being present for ourselves
Interior Mythos Journeys
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AtheismPlus - A Critique
so some of the atheism plus proponents have over the past few weeks asked me why I have the impression or where I'm getting the impression that the 80s and plus stuff in general isn't supportive of sex workers rights or sex worker concerns and I'm going to try to explain to you how I get that impression what gives me that impression you know it's not that people are unwilling to learn you know it's not really it's not so much about the people who've been over at the forum there have been people that have participated in the threads about the issue it's not really about that but it's about now some of the big-name bloggers out there have this tendency to post about things that are frankly bait for some of these you know the liberal libertarian white dudes you know they post things that are supposed to be baked about those you know for those people um but a lot of those things there is a crossover where it's actually a sex worker issue you know or you know if you're if you're looking at it from the sex worker position and that angle it's a sex worker issue and so people are using these things is bait and it's becoming more and more and more common you know and that's why keeps showing up and complaining and I know that a lot of people are thinking gosh she keeps thinkin it's always about sex work not everything is about sex work but but actually the stuff that you're talking about there's a lot that sex workers could say about it you know you're actively perpetuating some of the stereotypes that are a problem you're actively perpetuating some of the rhetoric that is a problem you know and it's like I just uh let me let me try to give you some specific examples of the sort of stuff I'm talking about okay and I didn't go looking for any of these things this is stuff that i just stumbled upon you know and i'm sure if i actually did go looking i could find a lot more but but here's the examples that I've seen over the past few weeks here's a thread a poster Murphy Leah Benson where she's got a quote from a book review of this book of Caitlin Moran and Moran and it says mentions protesting porn and stripping and then another thing at the bottom and she's like oh sounds radical watch out you know now this I I could say it's I would think it's meant to sort of be bait to those types of guys who would be showing up to complain about her wanting to protest porn and stripping but who else would show up to complain about her wanting to protest that well the people in the porn and the strippers sex workers you know so even though she might not be putting this out here for sex workers to come bite the bait sex workers do and the sex worker did and it wasn't me by the way if anybody's wondering but a sex worker bit debate you know and uh and left a what I thought was a pretty reasonable middle of the road sort of well I thought it was a middle-of-the-road comment but reasonable and then one of the commenters responds back how dare you say you like sex what are you trying to do suggest we don't don't you get it you know cultural pressure and beauty ideals blah blah blah and all this stuff and then somebody tries to offer a defense of that commenter and then the the left side positive is who it was she launches into the defender but the the person who's still the object of the attack the target of the attack is still the original commenter who was a person who was talking about when they had done sex work you know so even though that that original post might not have been purposeful bait for sex workers or pro sex work people you know and then a sex worker who pops in to give some sort of you know defense to the thing of hey let's stop telling people how to live and and sex work was ok wasn't terrible blah you know to tact and Ophelia Benson just allowed it to happen she never piped up and said hey folks let's not be so you know nothing like that so there's an example of something maybe not meant to target sex workers but actually ended up getting one of them in the line of fire there is well there's this post from pz myers which is just at this comic strip taken out of context but you know and it's meant to bait a certain sort of person and i don't know if he actually cares that it's going to also baked sex workers or possibly could or sends them a signal and even in the thread he's saying like you know Oh as long as you're not some woman who thinks her you know this is such you know pc Myers is really he doesn't get it and he I know he doesn't care maybe he does get it he doesn't care and it's purposeful I don't know but like this and then the more recent threat of his where he's talking about how he's ready to be divisive and he uses the word receptacle to cook you know refers to women as receptacles band I know it's supposed to be ok because it's not that he thinks that women are receptacles he's just saying that that other guy considers women to be receptacles well that is a classic anti sex work rad femme saying that they use to talk about the clients of prostitutes you know in clients of sex workers oh these are the types of people who just think of women as receptacles it's misogyny that you know it's classic rad femme tactic and which the target might not be a sex worker or the client of a sex worker but the message is the same the signal is the same you know there's stuff like this post from Stephanie's Vaughn where where you know it starts off asking or saying hey people ask us about how we're going to agree on solutions you know and hey but then but then it switches up and she says okay we'll decide which solutions are best buy critically examining which is better gender feminism or the equity feminism and I don't agree with either those categories I think they're kind of broad but I know that under the gender feminism is included that anti-porn anti-prostitution feminism you know but the point is that if she had phrased her question differently if she had said hey people ask us how we are going to decide on solutions well let's take a look at what solutions have been offered and see what's wrong with them you know she had asked for criticisms of gender feminist solutions I could have offered her quite a bit of information other sex workers could have offered her quite a bit quite a bit of information because the gender feminist solutions have had a huge effect and a detrimental effect for sex workers but that was an entire line of inquiry was closed off because of the way that she framed this challenge and I showed up and I said hey it's too bad you didn't ask the question differently because i would offer you this PDF right here you know but nobody wanted that evidence nobody wanted that and then when when when I finally explained to him what the connection was you know I get this disingenuous donc condescending about how it's not really about you it's just about those white male dudes you know they're the ones we want to fight with well that's nice and everything you know but you're giving this weak sauce weaselly defense of gender feminism and excluding with your frame any ability for people to offer criticism of gender feminist solutions I mean it was ridiculous it was like she's telling me oh look it's not about you even though the gender feminist solutions have a hugely detrimental effect on your life and your safety you nobody wants to hear it and don't derail my thread because this is all about those terrible white dudes who claim to be you know equity feminists really that's how you're doing social justice you're focusing on those dudes instead of actual problems with solutions I mean what the like that like that sends me a real clear signal when things are purposely you know constructed in such a way as to exclude sex worker criticisms then there is the oh well that the chill girl queen bee stuff you know where they're defending their usage of that and they don't mean certain people they only mean the people they mean and somehow they're going to determine whether the people actually deserve that sort of you know label they're going to be able to determine all that over the Internet of course you know emitted but it's so much it's exactly the same as that stupid you know when they call you a sex posi or fun fam and it's that same sort of stuff you know where it's it's almost against in my opinion it's almost always been used against people who are defending sex workers rights and concerns and trying to talk about that stuff you know this sends me a real big signal the defending of these sorts of concepts and stuff and then there's the more recent thing the comrade physio prof thread post where he takes this this twitter exchange completely out of context and you know I feel I'm so frustrated with this because it's yet another thing where of you know it's like I'm complaining about owing this stuff is taken out of context but I don't necessarily agree with everything this guy said I think in it some of his arguments are kind of problematic I can understand where he's coming from if he was using them against a different person it might have been a better argument you know I got a lot of criticisms but but the the entire context of the discussion was omitted you know the context was about sex working about prostitution you know not even mentioned it's yet another signal that that these folks have no interest in learning about the sex work issues or in considering how their constant attacks against these these dudes actually is also an attack against sex workers and sex workers rights I'm you know or I guess do you know it's not that it's an attack it's that it's this neglect this omission you know that if the entire conversation had been included well there wouldn't have been any point really for the blog post it would have just led to OA probably relatively informative run-of-the-mill probably somewhat contentious thread discussing sex work issues I guess there's no interest in discussing those things not here on this in this blog you know there's lots of interest in taking things and using them as bait for certain people but then when it comes to actually addressing the issues that are underneath all that stuff it's just nothing no you know they don't even want to do that even as the people you know even as the person who was fighting with shrub bloggers says oh these are people that we don't listen to much and blah blah blah you know nobody seems really willing to listen and yet if people see more than willing to use this sort of bait out there it actually has an effect on sex workers and then you exclude us and get pissed off when we try to bring attention to the way that your rhetoric and the way you're doing the that you're doing is having a detrimental effect you know or at least it it's enabling and reinforcing the bad freaking narratives that enable the bet the detrimental effects I'm sir I'm so sick of it you want it like this that gives me the impression that the atheism plus folks the big names have no interest in and being supportive of sex worker concerns because if they were they would not be using this sort of as the bait and then excluding and and letting their commenters bully sex workers who show up in the threads if they actually gave a crap they would stop doing that and they would listen to our criticisms about the way they continue to do that you know that's that's the biggest thing I know people think that it's an issue of just oh of course we support sex workers rights and everything and we're for legal safety stuff but you have no idea how so many of the weight you know the frames of your arguments are huge part of the problem I don't know I don't know if this I don't know but I guess that's I guess that's it for now I don't know how much this made sense but anyway yeah thanks for listening bye
Feminist Whore
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Pharmacology Part Eighteen
hematology drugs hematology system equal plasma liquid component of blood and blood cells hematinic drugs Aid in red blood cell production which then also increases hemoglobin equal increases oxygen Transportation used for microcytic and macrocytic anemia iron treats the most common form of anemia equal iron deficiency anemia most important role of iron equal production of hemoglobin by increased erythropoiesis production of red blood cells pregnant patients should take iron due to fetus using up the iron iron absorption is reduced by spinach whole grains coffee tea eggs and milk products side effects gastric irritation constipation dark stool vitamin B12 used to treat pernicious anemia B12 is necessary for cell growth plus replication and for maintenance of myelin in nervous system ohcl acid and intrinsic factor from the parietal cells of gastric mucosa are necessary for absorption of vitamin B12 pernicious anemia equal decreased gastric production of HCL acid plus deficiency of intrinsic factor side effects of parenteral B12 itching rash hives hypokalemia polycythemia vera heart failure pulmonary edema anaphylaxis assess patient for vitamin B12 deficiency power neuropathy psychosis red plus inflamed tongue
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Persuasion by Jane Austen | Full audiobook in English | Librivox recording
chapter one of persuasion this is the LibriVox recording all LibriVox recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer please visit librivox.org recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 1 s Walter Elliot of Kellen Hall in somersetshire was a man who for his own Amusement never took up any book but the barage there he found occupation for an Idle Hour and consolation in a distressed one there his faculties were roused into admiration and respect by contemplating The Limited remnant of the earliest patents there any unwelcome Sensations arising from domestic affairs changed naturally into pity and contempt as he turned over the almost endless creations of the last century and there if every other Leaf were powerless he could read his own history with an interest which never failed this was the page at which the favorite volume always opened Elliot of Kellen Hall Walter Elliot born March 1st 1760 married July 15th 1784 Elizabeth daughter of James Stevenson Esquire of South Park in the county of gluster by which lady who died 1800 he has issue Elizabeth born June 1st 1785 Anne born August 9th 1787 a stillborn son November 5th 1789 Mary born November 20th 1791 precisely such had the paragraph originally stood from the printer's hands but Sir Walter had improved it by adding for the information of himself and his family these words after the date of Mary's birth married December 16th 1810 Charles son and heir of Charles Musgrove Esquire of uppercross in the county of Somerset and by inserting most accurately the day of the month on which he had lost his wife Then followed the history and Rise of the ancient and respectable family in the usual terms how it had been first settled in chesher how mentioned in dugdale serving the office of High Sheriff representing a burrow in three successive parliaments exertions of loyalty and dignity of baronet in the first year of Charles II with all the Marys and elizabeths they had married forming altogether two handsome duod deimo pages and concluding with the arms and motto principal seat Kellen Hall in the county of Somerset and Sir Walter's handwriting again in this finale air presumptive William Walter Elliot Esquire great-grandson of the second s Walter vanity was the beginning and the end of Sir Walter Elliott's character vanity of person and of situation he had been remarkably handsome in his Youth and at 54 was still a very fine man few women could think more of their personal appearance than he did nor could the valley of any new-made Lord be more delighted with the place he held in society he considered the blessing of beauty as inferior only to the blessing of a bareny and the S Walter Elliot who United these gifts was the constant object of his warmest respect and devotion his good looks and his rank had one Fair claim on his attachment since to them he must devoted a wife of very Superior character to anything deserved by his own lady Elliot had been an excellent woman sensible and amiable whose judgment and conduct if they might be pardoned the youthful infatuation which made her lady Elliot had never required Indulgence afterwards she had humored or softened or concealed his failings and promoted his real respectability for 17 years and though not the very happiest being in the world herself had found enough in her duties her friends and her children to attach her to life and make it no matter of indifference to her when she was called on to quit them three girls the two eldest 16 and 14 was an awful Legacy for a mother to Beque an awful charged rather to confide to the authority and guidance of a conceited silly father she had however one very intimate friend a sensible deserving woman who had been brought by strong attachment to herself to settle close by her in the Village of Kellen and on her kindness and advice lady Elliot mainly relied for the best help and maintenance of the good principles and instruction which she had been anxiously giving her daughters this friend Ana Walter did not marry whatever might have been anticipated on that head by their acquaintance 13 years had passed away since lady Elliott's death and they were still near neighbors and intimate friends and one remained a widower the other a widow that lady Russell of steady age and character and extremely well provided for should have no thought of a second marriage needs no apology to the public which is rather apt to be unreasonably discontented when a woman does marry again than when she does not but Sir Walter's continuing singleness requires explanation be it known then that Sir Walter like a good father having met with one or two private disappointments in very unreasonable applications prided himself on remaining single for his dear daughter's sake for one daughter his eldest he would really have given up anything which he had not been very much attempted to do Elizabeth had succeeded at 16 to all that was possible of her mother's rights and consequence and being very handsome and very like himself her influence had always been great and they had got on together most happily his two other children were a very inferior value Mary had acquired a little artificial importance by becoming Mrs Charles Musgrove but Anne with an Elegance of mind and sweetness of character which must have placed her high with any people of real understanding was nobody with either father or sister her word had no weight her convenience was always to give way she was only an to Lady Russell indeed she was a most dear and highly valued goddaughter favorite and friend lady Russell loved them all but it was only in Anne that she could fancy the mother to revive again a few years before Anne Elliot had been a very pretty girl but her bloom had vanished early and as even in its height her father had found little to admire in her so totally different were her delicate features and Mild dark eyes from his own there could be nothing in them now that she was faded and thin to excite his esteem he had never indulged much hope he had now none of ever reading her name in any other page of his favorite work all equality of Alliance must rest with Elizabeth for Mary had merely connected herself with an old country family of respectability and large fortune and had therefore given all the honor and received none Elizabeth would one day or other marry suitably it sometimes happens that a woman is handsomer at 29 than she was 10 years before and generally speaking if there has been neither ill health nor anxiety it is a time of life at which scarcely any charm is lost it was so with Elizabeth still the same handsome Miss Elliott that she had begun to be 13 years ago and Sir Walter might be excused therefore in forgetting her age or at least be deemed only half a fool for thinking himself and Elizabeth as blooming as ever amidst the wreck of the good looks of everybody body else for he could plainly see how old all the rest of his family and acquaintance were growing an Haggard merry coarse every face in the neighborhood worsting and the rapid increase of the crowsfoot about lady Russell's temples had long been a distress to him Elizabeth did not quite equal her father in personal contentment 13 years had seen her Mistress of Kellen chall presiding and directing with a self-possession and decision which could never have given the idea of her being younger than she was for 13 years she had been doing the honors and laying down the domestic lore at home and leading the way to the Sha and four and walking immediately after lady Russell out of all the drawing rooms and dining rooms in the country 13 Winters revolving Frost had seen her opening every ball of credit which a scanty neighborhood afforded and 13 Springs shown their blossoms as she traveled up to London with her father for a few weeks annual enjoyment of the great world she had the remembrance of all this she had the consciousness of being N9 and 20 to give her some regret and some apprehensions she was fully satisfied of being still quite as handsome as ever but she felt her approach to the years of danger and would have rejoiced to be certain of being properly solicited by baronet blood within the next 12 month or two then might she again take up the book of books with as much enjoyment as in her early youth but now she liked it not always to be presented with the date of her own birth and see no marriage follow but that of a youngest sister made the book an evil and more than once when her father had left open on the table near her had she closed it with averted eyes and pushed it away she had had a disappointment moreover which that book and especially the history of her own family must ever present the remembrance of the air presumptive the very William Walter Elliot Esquire whose rights had been so generously supported by her father had disappointed her she had while a very young girl as soon as she had known him to be in the event of her having no brother the future baronet meant to marry him and her father had always meant that she should he had not been known to them as a boy but soon after lady Elliot's death s Walter had sought the acquaintance and though his overtures had not been met with any warmth he had persevered in seeking it making allowances for the modest drawing back of Youth and in one of their spring excursions to London when Elizabeth was in her first Bloom Mr Elliot had been forced into the introduction he was at that time a very young man just engaged in the study of Law and Elizabeth found him extremely agreeable and every plan in his favor was confirmed he was invited to Kellen Hall he was talked of and expected all the rest of the year but he never came the following spring he was seen again in town found equally agreeable again encouraged invited and expected and again he did not come and the next Tidings were that he was married instead of pushing his fortune in the line marked out for the heir of the House of Elliot he had purchased independence by uniting himself to a rich woman of inferior birth so Walter had resented it as the head of the house house he felt that he ought to have been consulted especially after taking the young man so publicly by the hand for they must have been seen together he observed once at tasol and twice in the lobby of the House of Commons his disapprobation was expressed but apparently very little regarded Mr Elliot had attempted no apology and shown himself as unsolicited of being longer noticed by the family as Sir Walter considered him Unworthy of it all acquaintance between them had ceased this very awkward history of Mr Elliot was still after an interval of several years felt with anger by Elizabeth who had liked the man for himself and still more for being her father's Heir and whose strong family Pride could see only in him a proper match for Sir Walter Elliott's eldest daughter there was not a baronet from A to Z whom her feelings could have so willingly acknowledged as an equal yet so miserably had he conducted himself that though she was at this present time the summer of 1814 wearing black ribbons for his wife she could not admit him to be worth thinking of again the disgrace of his first marriage might perhaps as there was no reason to suppose it perpetuated by Offspring Have Been got over had he not done worse but he had as by the accustomary intervention of kind friends they had been informed spoken most disrespectfully of them all most slightingly and contemptuously of the very blood he belonged to and the honors which were Hereafter to be his own this could not be pardoned such were Elizabeth Elliott's sentiments and Sensations such the cares to alloy the agitations to vary the sameness and the Elegance the prosperity and the nothingness of her scene of life such the feelings to give interest to a long uneventful residence in one Country Circle to fill the vacancies which there were no habits of utility abroad no talents or accomplishments for home to occupy but now another occupation and solicitude of Mind was beginning to be added to these her father was growing distressed for money she knew that when he now took up the parentage it was to drive the heavy bills of his trades people and the unwelcome hints of Mr shepher his Agents from his thought the Kellen property was good but not equal to S Walter's apprehension of the state required and its possessor while lady Elliot lived there had been method moderation and economy which had just kept him within his income but with her had died all such right-mindedness and from that period he had been constantly exceeding it it had not been possible for him to spend less he had done nothing but what s Walter Elliot was imperious be called on to do but blameless as he was he was not only growing dreadfully in debt but was hearing of it so often that it became vain to attempt concealing it longer even partially from his daughter he had given her some hints of it the last spring in town he had gone so far even as to say can we retrench does it occur to you that there is any one article in which we can retrench and Elizabeth to do her justice had in the first ardor of female alarm set seriously to think what could be done and had finally proposed these two branches of economy to cut off some unnecessary Charities and to refrain from new Furnishing the drawing room to which expedience she afterwards added the happy thought of their taking no present down to Anne as had been the usual yearly custom but these measures however good in themselves were insufficient for the real extent of the evil the whole of which s Walter found himself obliged to confess to her soon afterwards Elizabeth had nothing to propose of deeper efficacy she felt herself ill used and unfortunate as did her father and they were neither of them able to devise any means of lessening their expenses without compromising their dignity or relinquishing their Comforts in a way not to be born there was only a small part of his estate that s waterer could dispose of but had every acre been alienable it would have made no difference he had condescended to mortgage as far as he had the power but he would never condescend to sell no he would never disgrace his name so far the Kellen estate should be transmitted whole and entire as he had received it their two confidential friends Mr Shephard who lived in the neighboring Market town and Lady Russell were called to advise them and both father and daughter seemed to expect that something should be struck out by one or the other to remove their embarrassments and reduce their expenditure without involving the loss of any Indulgence of taste or Pride end of chapter 1 chapter two of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter two Mr shephard a civil cautious lawyer who whatever might be his hold or his views on Sir Walter would rather have the disagreeable prompted by anybody else excused himself from offering the slightest hint and only begged leave to recommend an implicit reference to the excellent Judgment of Lady Russell from whose known good sense he fully expected to to have just such Resolute measures advised as he meant to see finally adopted lady Russell was most anxiously zealous on the subject and gave it much serious consideration she was a woman rather of sound than of quick abilities whose difficulties in coming to any decision in this instance were great from the opposition of two leading principles she was of strict Integrity herself with a delicate sense of Honor but she was as desirous of saving s Walter's feelings as solicitous for the credit of the family as as aristocratic in her ideas of what was due to them as anybody of sense and honesty could well be she was a benevolent charitable good woman and capable of strong attachments most correct in her conduct strict in her Notions of decorum and with manners that were held a standard of good breeding she had a cultivated mind and was generally speaking rational and consistent but she had prejudices on the side of ancestry she had a value for Rank and consequence which blinded her a little to the thoughts of those who possessed them herself the Widow of only a knight she gave the Dignity of a baronet all its due and so Walter independent of his claims as an old acquaintance an attentive neighbor an obliging landlord the husband of her very dear friend the father of Anne and her sisters was as being so Walter in her apprehension entitled to a great deal of compassion and consideration under his present difficulties they must retrench that did not admit of a doubt but she was very anxious to have it done with the the least possible pain to him and Elizabeth she Drew up plans of economy she made exact calculations and she did what nobody else thought of doing she consulted Anne who never seemed considered by the others as having any interest in the question she consulted and in a degree was influenced by her in marking out the scheme of retrenchment which was at last submitted to S Walter every amendation of ANS had been on the side of honesty against importance she wanted more vigorous measures a more complete Reformation a quicker release from debt a much higher tone of indifference for anything but Justice and Equity if we can persuade your father to all this said lady Russell looking over her paper much may be done if he will adopt these regulations in seven years he will be clear and I hope we may be able to convince him and Elizabeth that Kellen Hall has a respectability in itself which cannot be affected by these reductions and that the true Dignity of s Walter Elliot will be very far from lessened in the eyes of sensible people by acting like a man of principle what will he be doing in fact but what very many of our first families have done or ought to do there will be nothing singular in his case and it is singularity which often makes the worst part of our suffering as it always does of our conduct I have great hope of prevailing we must be serious and decided for after all the person who has contracted debts must pay them and though a great deal is due to the feelings of the gentleman and the head of a house like your father there is still more due to the character of an honest man this was the principle on which Anne wanted her father to be proceeding his friends to be urging him she considered it as an act of indispensable duty to clear away the claims of creditors with all the Expedition which the most comprehensive retrenchments could secure and saw no dignity in anything short of it she wanted it to be prescribed and felt as a duty she rated lady Russell's influence highly and as to the severe degree of self-denial which her own conscience prompted she believed there might be little more difficulty in persuading them to a complete than to half a Reformation her knowledge of her father and Elizabeth inclined her to think that the sacrifice of one pair of horses would be hardly less painful than of both and so on through the whole list of Lady Russell's to Gentle reductions how Anne's more rigid requisitions might have been taken is of little consequence lady Russells had no success at all could not be put up with were not to be born what every comfort of Life knocked off Journeys London servants horses table contractions and restrictions everywhere to live no longer with the decencies even of a private gentleman no he would sooner quit Kellen Hall at once than remain in it on such disgraceful terms quit Kellen Hall the hint was immediately taken up by Mr Shephard whose interest was involved in the reality of Sir Walter's retrenching and who was perfectly persuaded that nothing would be done without a change of Abode since the idea had been started in the very quarter which ought to dictate he had had no scruple he said in confessing his judgment to be entirely on that side it did not appear to him that Sir Walter could materially alter his style of living in a house which had such a character of hospitality and ancient dignity to support in any other place Sir Walter might judge for himself and would be looked up to as regulating the modes of life in whatever way he might choose to model his household so Walter would quit Kellen Hall and after a very few days more of doubt and indecision the great question of whether he should go was settled and the first outline of this important change made out there had been three Alternatives London bath or another house in the country all an's wishes had been for the latter a small house in their own neighborhood where they might still have lady Russell Society still be near Mary and still have the pleasure of sometimes seeing the Lawns and Groves of Kellen was the object of her ambition but the usual fate of Anne attended her in having something very opposite from her inclination fixed on she disliked bath and did not think it agreed with her and bath was to be her home so Walter had at first thought more of London but Mr shepher felt that he could not be trusted in London and had been skillful enough to dissuade him from it and make bath preferred it was a much safer place for a gentleman in his predicament he might there be important at comparatively little expense two material advantages of bath over London had of course been given all their weight its more convenient distance from kage only 50 miles and Lady Russell spending some part of every winter there and to the very great satisfaction of Lady Russell whose first views on the projected change had been for bath so Walter and Elizabeth were induced to believe that they should lose neither consequence nor enjoyment by settling there lady Russell felt obliged to oppose her dear Anne's known wishes it would be too much to expect Sir Walter to descend into a small house in his own neighborhood Anne herself would have found the mortifications of it more than she foresaw and to s w feelings they must have been Dreadful and with regard to an's dislike of bath she considered it as a Prejudice and mistake arising first from the circumstance of her having been 3 years at school there after her mother's death and secondly from her happening to be not in perfectly good spirits the only winter which she had afterwards spent there with herself lady Russell was fond of bath in short and disposed to think it must suit them all and as to her young friend's Health by passing all the warm months with her at Kellen Lodge every danger would be avoided and it was in fact a change which must do both health and spirits good Anne had been too little from home too little seene her spirits were not high a larger society would improve them she wanted her to be more known the undesirable of any other house in the same neighborhood for Sir Walter was certainly much strengthened by one part and a very material part of the scheme which had been happily engrafted on the beginning he was not only to quit his home but to see it in the hands of others a trial of fortitude which stronger heads than S Walters have found too much Kellen Hall was to be let this however was a profound secret not to be breathed beyond their own Circle Sir Walter could not have borne the degradation of being known to design letting his house Mr shepher had once mentioned the word advertise but never dared approach it again Sir Walter spurned the idea of its being offered in any manner forbad the slightest hint being dropped of his having such an intention and it was only on the supposition of his being spontaneously solicited by some most unactionable applicant on his own terms and as a great favor that he would let it at all how quick come the reasons for approving what we like lady Russell had another excellent one at hand for being extremely glad that Sir Walter and his family were to remove from the country Elizabeth had been lately forming an intimacy which she wished to see interrupted it was with the daughter of Mr Shephard who had returned after an unprosperous marriage to her father's house with the additional burden of two children she was a clever young woman who understood the art of pleasing the art of pleasing at least at Kellen Hall and who made herself so acceptable to Miss Elliot as to have been already staying there more than once in spite of all that lady Russell who thought it a friendship quite out of place could hint of caution and Reserve lady Russell indeed had scarcely any influence with Elizabeth and seemed to love her rather because she would love her than because Elizabeth deserved ered it she had never received from her more than outward attention nothing beyond the observances of complacence had never succeeded in any point which she wanted to carry against previous inclination she had been repeatedly very Earnest in trying to get Anne included in the visit to London sensibly open to all the Injustice and all the discredit of The Selfish derangements which shut her out and on many lesser occasions had endeavored to give Elizabeth the advantage of her own better judgment and experience but always in vain Elizabeth would go her own way and never had she pursued it in more decided opposition to Lady Russell than in this selection of Mrs clay turning from the Society of so deserving a sister to bestow her affection and confidence on one who ought to have been nothing to her but the object of distant civility from situation Mrs clay was in lady Russell's estimate a very unequal and in her character she believed a very dangerous companion and a removal that would leave Mrs clay behind and bring a choice of more suitable Intimates within Miss Elliot's reach was therefore an object of First Rate importance end of chapter 2 chapter 3 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 3 I must take leave to observe Sir Walter said Mr Shephard one morning at kench Hall as he laid down the newspaper that the present juncture is much in our favor this peace will be turning all our Rich naval officers ashore they will be all wanting a home could not be a better time Sir Walter for having a choice of tenants very responsible tenants many a noble Fortune has been made during the war if a rich Admiral were to come in our way Sir Walter he would be a very lucky man Shepherd replied Sir Walter that's all I have to remark a prize indeed would Kellen Hall be to him rather The Greatest Prize of all let him have taken ever so many before hey shepher Mr Shepherd laughed as he knew he must at this wit and then added I presume to observe Sir Walter that in the way of business Gentlemen of the Navy are well to deal with I have had a little knowledge of their methods of doing business and I am free to confess that they have very liberal Notions and are as likely to make desirable tenants as any set of people one should meet with therefore s waterer what I would take leave to suggest is that if in consequence of any rumors getting abroad of your intention which must be contemplated as a possible thing because we know how difficult it is to keep the actions and designs of one part of the world from the notice and curiosity of the other consequence has its taags I John Shephard might conceal any family matters that I chose for nobody would think it worth their while to observe me but Sir Walter Elliot has eyes upon him which it may be very difficult to elude and therefore thus much I Venture upon that it will not greatly surprise me if with all our caution some rumor of the truth should get abroad in the supposition of which as I was going to observe since applications will unquestionably follow I should think any from our wealthy Naval commanders particularly worth attending to and beg leave to add that two hours will bring me over at any time to save you the trouble of replying Sir Walter only nodded but soon afterwards rising and pacing the room he observed sarcastically there are few among the gentlemen of the Navy I imagine who would not be surprised to find themselves in a house of this description they would look around them no doubt and bless their Good Fortune said Mrs clay for Mrs clay was present her father had driven her over nothing being of so much use to Mrs Clay's Health as a drive to Kellen but I quite agree with my father in thinking a sailor might be a very desirable tenant I have known a good deal of the profession and besides their liberality they are so neat and careful in all their ways these valuable pictures of yours Sir Walter if you chose to leave them would be perfectly safe everything in and about the house would be taken such excellent care of the gardens and shrubberies would be kept in almost as high order as they are now you need not be afraid Miss Elliot of your own sweet flower gardens being neglected as to all that rejoined sir water cooly supposing I were induced to let my house I have by no means made up my mind as to the Privileges to be an nexted to it I am not particularly disposed to favor a tenant the park would be open to him of course and few Navy officers or men of any other description can have had such a range but what restrictions I might impose on the use of the pleasure grounds is another thing I am not fond of the idea of my shrubberies being always approachable and I should recommend Miss Elliot to be on her guard with respect to her flower garden I am very little disposed to Grant a tenant of Kellen Hall any extraordinary favor I assure you be he sailor or Soldier after a short pause Mr Shephard presumed to say in all these cases there are established usages which make everything plain and easy between landlord and tenant your interest Sir Walter is in pretty safe hands depend upon me for taking care that no tenant has more than his just rights I venture to hint that Sir Walter Elliot cannot be half so jealous for his own as John Shepard will be for him here Anne spoke the Navy I think who have done so much for us have at least an equal claim with any other set of men for all the Comforts and all the Privileges which any home can give Sailors work hard enough for their Comforts we must allow very true very true what Miss Anne says is very true was Mr Shepherd's rejoiner and oh certainly was his daughters but Sir Walter's remark was soon afterwards the profession has its utility but I should be sorry to see any friend of mine belonging to it indeed was the reply and with a look of surprise yes it is in two points offensive to me I have two strong grounds of objection to it first as being the means of bringing persons of obscure birth into undue distinction and raising men to honors which their fathers and grandfathers never dreamt of and secondly as it cuts up a man's Youth and vigor most horribly a sailor grows old sooner than any other man I have observed it all my life a man is in Greater danger in the Navy of being insulted by the rise of one whose father his father might have disdained to speak to and of becoming prematurely an object of disgust himself than in any other line one day last spring in town I was in company with two men striking instances of what I am talking of Lords and I whose father we all know to have been a country curate without bread to eat I was to give place to Lords and IES and a certain Admiral Baldwin the most deplorable looking person that you can imagine his face the color of mahogany rough and rugged to the last degree all lines and wrinkles nine gray hairs of a side and nothing but a dab of powder at the top In The Name Of Heaven who is that old fellow said I to a friend of mine who was standing near sir basil moly old fellow cried sir basil it is Admiral B wwin what do you take his age to be 60 said I or perhaps 62 40 replied sir basil 40 and no more picture to yourselves my amazement I shall not easily forget Admiral Baldwin I never saw quite so wretched an example of what a seafaring life can do but to a degree I know it is the same with them all they are all knocked about and exposed to every climate and every weather till they are not fit to be seen it is a pity they are not knocked on the head at once before they reach Admiral Baldwin's age nay s water cried Mrs clay this is being severe indeed have a little Mercy on the poor men we are not all born to be handsome the sea is no beautifier certainly Sailors do grow old but times I have observed it they soon lose the look of Youth but then is not it the same with many other professions perhaps most others soldiers in active service are not at all better off and even in the quieter professions there is a toil and a labor of the mind if not of the body which seldom leaves a man's looks to the Natural effect of time the lawyer plods quite careworn the physician is up at all hours and traveling in all weather and even the clergyman she stopped a moment to consider what might do for the clergyman and even the clergyman you know is obliged to go into infected rooms and expose his health and looks to all the injury of a poisonous atmosphere in fact as I have been long convinced though every profession is necessary and honorable in its turn it is only the lot of those who are not obliged to follow any who can live in a regular way in the country choosing their own hours following their own Pursuits and living on their own property without the torment of trying for more it is only their lot I say to hold the blessings of health and a good appearance to the utmost I know no other set of men but what lose something of their personableness when they cease to be quite young it seemed as if Mr Shephard in this anxiety to bespeak Sir Walter's Goodwill towards a naval officer as tenant had been gifted with foresight for the very first application for the house was from an admiral Croft with whom he shortly afterwards fell into company in attending the quarter sessions at Taunton and indeed he had received a hint of the Admiral from a London correspondent by the report which he hastened over to Kellen to make Admiral Croft was a native of somersetshire who having acquired a very handsome Fortune was wishing to settle in his own country and had come down to Taunton in order to look at some advertised places in that immediate neighborhood which however had not suited him that accidentally hearing it was just as he had foretold Mr shepher observed sir Walters concerns could not be kept a secret accidentally hearing of the possibility of Kellen Hall being toet and understanding his Mr Shepard's connection with the owner he had introduced himself to him in order to make particular inquiries and had in the course of a pretty long conference expressed as strong an inclination for the place as a man who knew it only by description could feel and given Mr Shephard in his explicit account of himself every proof of his being a most responsible eligible tenant and who is this Admiral Croft was Sir Watters Cod old suspicious inquiry Mr Shepherd answered for his being of a gentleman's family and mentioned a place and Anne after the little pause which followed added he is a rear Admiral of the white he was in the trga action and has been in the East Indies since he was stationed there I believe several years then I take it for granted observed Sir Walter that his face is about as orange as the cuffs and capes of my Livery Mr Shephard hastened to assure him that Admiral Croft was a very hail hearty well-looking man a little weather beaten to be sure but not much and quite the gentleman in all his Notions and behavior not likely to make the smallest difficulty about terms only wanted a comfortable home and to get into it as soon as possible knew he must pay for his convenience knew what rent a ready furnished House of that consequence might fetch should not have been surprised if Sir Walter had asked more had inquired about the manner would be glad of the deputation certainly but made no great point of it said he sometimes took out a gun but never killed quite the gentleman Mr shepher was eloquent on the subject pointing out all the circumstances of the Admiral's family which made him particularly desirable as a tenant he was a married man and without children the very state to be wished for a house was never taken good care of Mr Shephard observed without a lady he did not know where the furniture might not be in danger of suffering as much where there was no lady as where there were many children a lady without a family was the very best preserver of furniture in the world he had seen Mrs Croft too she was at Taun him with the Admiral and had been present almost all the time they were talking the matter over and a very well-spoken gential shrewd lady she seemed to be continued he asked more questions about the house and terms and taxes and the Admiral himself and seemed more conversant with business and moreover Sir Walter I found she was not quite unconnected in this country any more than her husband that is to say she is sister to a gentleman who did live amongst us once she told me so herself sister to the gentleman who lived a few years back at monford bless me what was his name at this moment I cannot recollect his name though I have heard it so lately Penelope my dear can you help me to the name of the gentleman who lived at monford Mrs croft's brother but Mrs clay was talking so eagerly with Miss Elliot that she did not hear the appeal I have no conception whom you can mean Shepherd I remember no gentleman resident at monford since the time of old Governor Trent bless me how very odd I shall forget my own name soon I suppose a name that I am so very well acquainted with knew the gentleman so well by sight seen him a hundred times came to consult me with once I remember about a trespass of one of his neighbors Farmer's man breaking into his Orchard wall torn down apples stolen caught in the fact and afterwards contrary to my judgment submitted to an amicable compromise very odd indeed after waiting another moment you mean Mr Wentworth I suppose said Anne Mr Shephard was all gratitude Wentworth was the very name Mr Wentworth was the very man he had the curacy of monkford you know Sir Walter some time back for two or 3 years came there about the year five five I take it you remember him I am sure Wentworth oh I Mr Wentworth the curate of monkford you misled me by the term gentleman I thought you were speaking of some man of property Mr Wentworth was nobody I remember quite unconnected nothing to do with the straford family one wonders how the names of many of our nobility become so common as Mr Shephard perceived that this connection of the Crofts did them no service with Sir Walter he mentioned it no more returning with all his zeal to dwell on the circumstances more indisputably in their favor their age and number and Fortune the high idea they had formed of Kellen Hall and extreme solicitude for the advantage of renting it making it appear as if they ranked nothing beyond the happiness of being the tenants of Sir Walter Elliot an extraordinary taste certainly could they have been supposed in the secret of s Walter's estimate of the dues of a tenant it succeeded however and though Sir Walter must ever look with an evil eye on anyone intending to inhabit that house and think them infinitely too well well of and being permitted to rented on the highest terms he was talked into allowing Mr shepher to proceed in the treaty and authorizing him to wait on Admiral Croft who still remained at toron and fixed a day for the house being seen Sir Walter was not very wise but still he had experience enough of the world to feel that a more unobjectionable tenant in all Essentials than Admiral Croft bid fair to be could hardly offer so far went his understanding and his vanity supplied a little additional soothing in the Admiral's situation in life which was just high enough and not too high I have let my house to Admiral Croft would sound extremely well very much better than to any mere Mister a mister save perhaps some half dozen in the nation always needs a note of explanation an admiral speaks of his own consequence and at the same time can never make a baronet look small in all their dealings and intercourse so Walter Elliot must ever have the Precedence nothing could be done without a reference to Elizabeth but her her inclination was growing so strong for a removal that she was happy to have it fixed and expedited by a tenant at hand and not a word to suspend decision was uttered by her Mr Shephard was completely empowered to act and no sooner had such an end been reached than Anne who had been a most attentive listener to the hole left the room to seek the comfort of cool air for her flushed cheeks and as she walked along a favorite Grove said with a gentle sigh a few months more and he perhaps may be walking here end of chapter 3 chapter 4 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 4 he was not Mr Wentworth the former curate of monkford however suspicious appearances may be but a certain Captain Frederick Wentworth his brother who being made commander in consequence of the action of St Domingo and not immediately employed had come into somersetshire in the summer of 1806 and having no parent living found a home for half a year at monford he was at that time a remarkably fine young man with a great deal of intelligence spirit and brilliancy and Anne an extremely pretty girl with gentleness modesty taste and feeling half the sum of Attraction on either side might have been enough for he had nothing to do and she had hardly anybody to love but the encounter of such lavish recommend ations could not fail they were gradually acquainted and when acquainted rapidly and deeply in love it would be difficult to say which had seen the highest perfection in the other or which had been the happiest she in receiving his declarations and proposals or he in having them accepted a short period of Exquisite Felicity followed and but a short one troubles soon arose so Walter on being applied to without actually withholding his consent or saying it should never be gave it all the negative of great astonishment great coldness great silence and a professed resolution of doing nothing for his daughter he thought it a very degrading Alliance and Lady Russell though with more tempered and pardonable pride received it as a most unfortunate one Anne Elliot with all her claims of birth Beauty and mind to throw herself away at 19 involve herself at 19 in an engagement with a young man who had nothing but himself to recommend him and no hopes of retaining affluence but in the chances of a most uncertain profession and no connections to secure even his father rise in the profession would be indeed a throwing away which she grieved to think of Anne Elliot so young known to so few to be snatched off by a stranger without Alliance or fortune or rather sunk by him into a state of most wearing anxious youth killing dependence it must not be if by any Fair interference of friendship any representations from one who had almost most a mother's love and mother's rights it would be prevented Captain Wentworth had no fortune he had been lucky in his profession but spending freely what had come freely had realized nothing but he was confident that he should soon be rich full of life and ardor he knew that he should soon have a ship and soon be on a station that would lead to everything he wanted he had always been lucky he knew he should be so still such confidence powerful in its own warmth and bewitching in the wit which often expressed it must have been enough for Anne but lady Russell saw it very differently his sanguin temper and fearlessness of Mind operated very differently on her she saw in it but an aggravation of the evil it only added a dangerous character to himself he was brilliant he was headstrong lady Russell had little taste for wit and of anything approaching to imprudence or horror she deprecated the connection in every light such opposition as these feelings produced was more than Anne could combat young and gentle as she was it might yet have been possible to withstand her father's ill will though unsoftened by one kind word or look on the part of her sister but lady Russell whom she had always loved and relied on could not with such steadiness of opinion and such tenderness of manner be continually advising her in vain she was persuaded to believe the engagement a wrong thing indiscret improper hardly capable of success and not deserving it but it was not a merely selfish caution under which she acted in putting an end to it had she not imagined herself Consulting his good even more than her own she could hardly have given him up the belief of being prudent and self-denying principally for his Advantage was her Chief consolation under the misery of a parting a final parting and every consolation was required for she had to encounter all the additional pain of opinions on his side totally unconvinced and unbending and of his feeling himself ill used by so forced a relinquishment he had left the country in consequence a few months had seen the beginning and the end of their acquaintance but not with a few months ended Anne's share of suffering from it her attachment and regrets had for a long time clouded every enjoyment of Youth and an early loss of Bloom and Spirits had been their lasting effect more than seven years were gone since this little history of sorrowful interest had reached its close and time had softened down much perhaps nearly all of peculiar attachment to him but she had been too dependent on time alone no Aid had been given in change of place except in one visit to Bath soon after the rupture or in any novelty or enlargement of society no one had ever come within the Kellen Circle who could bear a comparison with Frederick Wentworth as he stood in her memory no second attachment the only thoroughly natural happy and sufficient cure at her time of life had been possible to the nice tone of her mind the fastidiousness of her taste in the small limits of the society around them she had been solicited when about 2 and 20 to change her name by the young man who not long afterwards found a more willing mind in her younger sister and Lady Russell had lamented her refusal for Charles Musgrove was the eldest son of a man whose landed property in general importance was second in that country only to Sir Walters and of good character and appearance and however lady Russell might have asked yet for something more while am was 19 she would have rejoiced to see her at 22 so respectably removed from the partialities and justice of her father's house and settled so permanently near herself but in this case Anne had left nothing for advice to do and though lady Russell as satisfied as ever with her own discretion never wished the past undone she began now to have the anxiety which borders on hopelessness for an's being tempted by some man of talents and Independence to enter a state for which he held her to be peculiarly fitted by her warm affections and domestic habits they knew not each other's opinion I either its constancy or its change on the one leading point of Anne's conduct for the subject was never alluded to but Anne at 7 and 20 thought very differently from what she had been made to think at 19 she did not blame lady Russell she did not blame herself for having been Guided by her but she felt that were any young person in similar circumstances to apply to her for counsel they would never receive any of such certain immediate wretchedness such uncertain future good she was persuaded that under every disadvantage of disapprobation at home and every anxiety attending his profession all their probable fears delays and disappointments she should yet have been a happier woman in maintaining the engagement than she had been in the sacrifice of it and this she fully believed had the usual share had even more than the usual share of all such solicitudes and suspense been theirs without reference to the actual results of their case which as it happened would have bestowed earlier Prosperity than could be reasonably calculated on on all his sanguin expectations all his confidence had been Justified his genius and ardor had seemed to foresee and to command his prosperous path he had very soon after their engagement ceased got employ and all that he had told her would follow had taken place he had distinguished himself and early gained the other stepen Rank and must now by successive captures have made a handsome Fortune she had only Navy lists and newspapers for her Authority but she could not doubt his being rich and in favor of his constancy she had no reason to believe him married how eloquent could Anne Elliot have been how eloquent at least were her wishes on the side of early warm attachment and a cheerful confidence in Futurity against that over anxious caution which seems to insult exertion and distrust Providence she had been forced into Prudence in her youth she learned romance as she Grew Older the natural sequel of an unnatural beginning with all these circumstances Recollections and feelings she could not hear that Captain wentworth's sister was was likely to live at Kellen without a Revival of former pain and many a stroll and many a sigh were necessary to dispel the agitation of the idea she often told herself it was Folly before she could Harden her nerves sufficiently to feel the continual discussion of the Crofts and their business no evil she was assisted however by that perfect indifference and apparent unconsciousness among the only three of her own friends in the secret of the past which seemed almost to deny any recollection of it she could do justice to the superiority of Lady Russell's motives in this over those of her father and Elizabeth she could honor all the better feelings of her calmness but the general erir of Oblivion among them was highly important from whatever it sprung and in the event of Admiral croft's really taking Kellen Hall she rejoiced a new over the conviction which had always been most grateful to her of the past being known to those three only among her connections by whom no syllable she believed would ever be whispered and in the trust that among his the brother only with whom he had been residing had received any information of their short-lived engagement that brother had been long removed from the country and being a sensible man and moreover a single man at the time she had a fond dependence on no human creatures having heard of it from him the sister Mrs Croft had been out of England accompanying her husband on a foreign station and her own sister Mary had been at school while it all occurred and never admitted by the pride of some and the delicacy of others to the smallest knowledge of it afterwards with these supports she hoped that the acquaintance between herself and the Crofts which with Lady Russell still resident in kelich and Mary fixed only three miles off must be anticipated need not involve any particular awkwardness end of chapter 4 chapter 5 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 5 on the morning appointed for Admiral and Mrs Croft seeing Kellen Hall Anne found it most natural to take her almost daily walk to Lady Russell's and keep out of the way till all was over when she found it most natural to be sorry that she had missed the opportunity of seeing them this meeting of the two parties proved highly satisfactory and decided the whole business at once each lady was previously well disposed for an agreement and saw nothing therefore but good manners in the other and with regard to the gentleman there was such an hearty Good Humor such an open trusting liberality on the Admiral's side as could not but influence Sir Walter who had besides been flattered into his very best and most polished Behavior by Mr Shephard's assurances of his being known by report to the Admiral as a model of good breeding the house and grounds and Furniture were approved the Crofts were approved terms time everything and everybody was right and Mr Shepherd's Clarks were set to work without there having been a single preliminary difference to modify of all that this indenture showeth Sir Walter without hesitation declared the Admiral to be the best looking sailor he had ever met with and went so far as to say that if his own man might have had the arranging of his hair he should not be ashamed of being seen with him anywhere and the Admiral with sympathetic cordiality observed to his wife as they drove back through the park I thought we should soon come to a deal my dear in spite of what they told us at taon the baronet will never set the temps on fire but there seems to be no harm in him reciprocal comments which would have been esteemed about equal the crofs were to have possession at melus and as s Walter proposed were moving to Bath in the course of the preceding month there was no time to be lost in making every dependent Arrangement lady Russell convinced that am would not be allowed to be of any use or any importance in the choice of the house which they were going to secure was very unwilling to have her hurried away so soon and wanted to make it possible for her to stay behind till she might convey her to Bath herself after Christmas but having engagements of her own which must take her from Kellen for several weeks she was unable to give the full invitation she wished and Anne though dreading the possible Heats of September and all the white glare of bath and grieving to forgo all the influence so sweet and so sad of the autumnal months in the country did not think that everything considered she wished to remain it would be most right and most wise and therefore must involve least suffering to go with the others something occurred however to give her a different Duty Mary often a little unwell and always thinking a great deal of her own complaints and always in the habit of claiming Anne when anything was the matter was indisposed and foreseeing that she should not have a day's Health all the Autumn intreated or rather required her for it was hardly in treaty to come to uppercross Cottage and bear her company as long as she should want her instead of going to Bath I cannot possibly do without Anne was Mary's reasoning and Elizabeth's reply was that I am sure Anne had better stay for nobody will want her in bath to be claimed as a good though in an improper style is at least better than being rejected as no good at all and Anne glad to be thought of some use glad to have anything marked out as a duty and certainly not sorry to have the scene of it in the country and her own dear country readily agreed to stay this invitation of Mary's removed all Lady Russell's difficulties and it was consequently soon settled that Anne should not go to Bath till lady Russell took her and that all the intervening time should be divided between uppercross Cottage and Kellen Lodge so far all was perfectly right but lady Russell was almost startled by the wrong of one part of the Kellen Hall plan when it burst on her which was Mrs Clay's being engaged to go to bath with Sir Walter and Elizabeth as a most important and valuable assistant to the latter in all the business before her lady Russell was extremely sorry that such a measure should have been resorted to at all wondered grieved and feared and the affront it contained to Anne in Mrs Clay's being of so much use while Anne could be of none was a very sore aggravation Anne herself was become hardened to such a fronts but she felt the imprudence of the arrangement quite as keenly as lady Russell with a great deal of quiet observation and a knowledge which she often wished less of her father's character she was sensible that results the most serious to his family from the intimacy were more than possible she did not imagine that her father had at present any idea of the kind Mrs clay had freckles and a projecting tooth and a clumsy wrist which he was continually making severe remarks upon in her absence but she was young and certainly altogether well-looking and possessed in an acute mind and assiduous pleasing manners infinitely more dangerous attractions than any merely personal might have been an was so impressed by the degree of their danger that she could not excuse herself from trying to make it perceptible to her sister she had little hope of success but Elizabeth who in the event of such a reverse would be so much more to be pied than herself should never she thought have reason to reproach her for giving no warning she spoke and seemed only to offend Elizabeth could not conceive how such an absurd suspicion should occur to her and indignantly answered for each party's perfectly knowing their situation Mrs clay she said warmly never forgets who she is and as I am rather better acquainted with her sentiments than you can be I can assure you that upon the subject of marriage they are particularly nice and that she reprobates all inequality of condition and rank more more strongly than most people and as to my father I really should not have thought that he who has kept himself single so long for our sakes need be suspected now if Mrs clay were a very beautiful woman I grant you it might be wrong to have her so much with me not that anything in the world I am sure would induce my father to make a degrading match that he might be rendered unhappy but poor Mrs clay who with all her merits could never have been reckon tolerably pretty I really think poor Mrs clay may be staying here in perfect safety one would imagine you had never heard my father speak of her personal misfortunes though I know you must 50 times that tooth of hers and those freckles freckles do not disgust me so very much as they do him I have known a face not materially disfigured by a few but he abominates them you must have heard him notice Mrs Clay's freckles there is hardly any personal defect replied Anne which in agreeable manner might not gradually reconcile one to I think very differently answered Elizabeth shortly an agreeable manner May set off handsome features but can never alter plain ones however at any rate I have a great deal more at stake on this point than anybody else can have I think it is rather unnecessary in you to be advising me Anne had done glad that it was over and not absolutely hopeless of doing good Elizabeth though resenting the suspicion might yet be made observant by it the last Office of the four carriage horses was to draw Sir Walter Miss Elliot and Mrs clay to Bath the party party drove off in very good spirits Sir Walter prepared with condescending bows for All The Afflicted tenantry and Cottages who might have had a hint to show themselves and Anne walked up at the same time in a sort of desolate Tranquility to the lodge where she was to spend the first week her friend was not in better spirits than herself lady Russell felt this breakup of the family exceedingly their respectability was as dear to her as her own and a daily intercourse had become precious by habit it was painful to look upon their deserted grounds and still worse to anticipate the new hands they were to fall into and to escape the solitariness and The Melancholy of so altered a village and be out of the way when Admiral and Mrs Croft first arrived she had determined to make her own absence from home begin when she must give up an accordingly their removal was made together and Anne was set down at uppercross Cottage in the first stage of Lady Russell's Journey uppercross was a moderate sized Village which a few years back had been completely in the Old English style containing only two houses Superior and a appearance to those of the yman and laborers the Mansion of The Squire with its high walls great Gates and old trees substantial and unmodernized and the compact tight parsonage enclosed in its own neat garden with a Vine and a pear tree trained around its casements but upon the marriage of the young Squire it had received the Improvement of a farmhouse elevated into a cottage for his residence and Upp across Cottage with its Veranda French windows and other prettiness was quite as likely to catch the Traveler's eye as the more consistent and considerable aspect and premises of the great house about a quarter of a mile further on here Anne had often been staying she knew the ways of uppercross as well as those of Kellen the two families were so continually meeting so much in the habit of running in and out of each other's house at all hours that it was rather a surprise to her to find Mary alone but being alone her being unwell and out of spirits was almost a matter of course though better in doubt than the elder sister Mary had not Anne's understanding nor temper while well and happy and properly attended to she had great good humor and excellent spirits but any indisposition sunk her completely she had no resources for Solitude and inheriting a considerable share of the Elliot's self-importance was very prone to add to every other distress that of fancying herself neglected and Ill used in person she was inferior to both sisters and had even in her bloom only reached the Dignity of being a fine girl she was now lying on the faded sofa of the pretty little drawing room the one elegant Furniture of which had been gradually growing shabby under the influence of four Summers and two children and on an's appearing greeted her with so you are come at last I began to think I should never see you I am so ill I could hardly speak I have not seen a creature the whole morning I am sorry to find you unwell replied Anne you sent me such a good account of yourself on Thursday yes I made the best of it I always do but I was very far from well at the time and I do not think I I ever was so ill in my life as I have been all this morning very unfit to be alone I am sure suppose I were to be seized of a sudden in some Dreadful way and not be able to ring the bell so lady Russell would not get out I do not think she has been in this house three times this summer Anne said what was proper and inquired after her husband oh Charles is out shooting I have not seen him since 7:00 he would go though I told him how ill I was he said he should not stay out long but he has never come back and now it is almost 1 I assure you I have not seen a soul this whole long morning you have had your little boys with you yes as long as I could bear their noise but they are so unmanageable that they do me more harm than good little Charles does not mind a word I say and water is growing quite as bad well you will soon be better now replied Anne cheerfully you know I always cure you when I come how are your neighbors at the great house I can give you no account of them I have not seen one of them today except Mr Musgrove who just stopped and spoke through the window but without getting off his horse and though I told him how ill I was not one of them have been near me it did not happen to suit the Miss musgroves I suppose and they never put themselves out of their way you will see them yet Perhaps before the morning is gone it is early I never want them I assure you they talk and laugh a great deal too much for me oh an I am so very unwell it was quite unkind of you not to come on Thursday my dear Mary recollect what a comfortable account you sent me of yourself you wrote in the cheerfest manner and said you were perfectly well and in no hurry for me and that being the case you must be aware that my wish would be to remain with Lady Russell to the last and besides what I felt on her account I have really been so busy have had so much to do that I could not very conveniently have left kelleng sooner dear me what can you possibly have to do a great many things I assure you more than I can recollect in a moment but I can tell you some I have been making a duplicate of the catalog of my father's books and pictures I have been several times in the garden with McKenzie trying to understand and make him understand which of Elizabeth's plans are for lady Russell I have had all my own little concerns to arrange Books and Music to divide and all my trunks to repack from not having understood in time what was intended as to the wagons and one thing I have had to do Mary of a more trying nature going to almost every house in the parish as a sort of take leave I was told that they wished it but all these things took up a great deal of time oh well and after a moment's pause but you have never asked me one word about our dinner at the pools yesterday did you go then I have made no inquiries because I concluded you must have been obliged to give up the party oh yes I went I was very well yesterday nothing at all the matter with me till this morning it would have been strange if I had not gone I am very glad you were well enough and I hope you had a pleasant party nothing remarkable one always knows beforehand what the dinner will be and who will be there and it is so very un comfortable not having a carriage of One's Own Mr and Mrs Musgrove took me and we were so crowded they are both so very large and take up so much room and Mr Musgrove always sits forward so there I was crowded into the back seat with Henry eter and Louisa and I think it very likely that my illness today may be owing to it a little further perseverance imp patience and forc cheerfulness on Anne's side produced nearly a cure on Mary's she could soon sit upright on the sofa and began to hope she might be able to leave it by dinner time then forgetting to think of it she was at the other end of the room beautifying a nose gay then she ate her cold meat and then she was well enough to propose a little walk where shall we go she said when they were ready I suppose you will not like to call at the great house before they have been to see you I have not the smallest objection on that account replied Anne I should never think of standing on such ceremony with people I know so well as Mrs and the Miss musgroves oh but they ought to call upon you as soon as possible they ought to feel what is due to you as my sister however we may as well go and sit with them a little while and when we have that over we can enjoy our walk Anne had always thought such a style of intercourse highly imprudent but she had ceased to Endeavor to check it from believing that though there were on each side continual subjects of offence neither family could now do without it to the great house accordingly they went to sit the full half hour in the oldfashioned Square parlor with a small carpet and Shining floor to which the present Daughters of the house were gradually giving the proper ER of confusion by a grand piano Forte and a harp flower stands and little tables placed in every direction oh could The Originals of the portraits against the way Scot could the gentleman in brown velvet and the ladies in blue satin had seen what was going on have been conscious of such an overthrow of all order and neatness the portraits themselves seemed to be staring in astonishment the musgroves like their houses were in a state of alteration perhaps of improvement the father and mother were in the Old English style and the young people in the new Mr and Mrs Musgrove were a very good sort of people friendly and hospitable not much educated and not at all elegant their children had more modern minds and manners there was a numerous family but the only two grown up excepting Charles were henrieta and Louisa young ladies of 19 and 20 who had brought from school at exitor all the usual stock of accomplishments and were now like thousands of other young ladies living to be fashionable happy and merry their dress had every Advantage their faces were rather pretty their spirits extremely good their Manner unembarrassed and pleasant they were of consequence at home and favorites abroad Anne always contemplated them as some of the happiest creatures of her acquaintance but still saved as we all are by some comfortable feeling of superiority from wishing for the possibility of exchange she would not have given up her own more elegant and cultivated mind for all their enjoyments and envied them nothing but that seemingly perfect good understanding and agreement together that good humored Mutual affection of which she had known so little herself with either of her sisters they were received with great cordiality nothing seemed a Miss on the side of the great house family which was generally as Anne very well knew the least to blame the half hour was chattered away pleasantly enough and she was not at all surprised at the end of it to have their walking party joined by both of Miss musgroves at Mary's particular invitation end of chapter 5 chapter six of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 6 Anne had not wanted this visit to uppercross to learn that a removal from one set of people to another though at a distance of only three miles will often include a total change of conversation opinion and idea she had never been staying there before without being struck by it or without wishing that other Elliots could have her advantage in seeing how unknown or unconsidered there were the Affairs which at Kellen Hall were treated as of such General publicity and pervading interest yet with all this experience she believed that she must now submit to field that another lesson in the art of knowing our own nothingness beyond our own Circle was become necessary for her for certainly coming as she did with a heart full of the subject which had been completely occupying both houses in Kellen for many weeks she had expected rather more curiosity and sympathy than she found in the separate but very similar remark of Mr and Mrs Musgrove so Miss Anne Sir Walter and your sister are gone and what part of bath do you think they will settle in and this without much waiting for an answer or in the young lady's addition of I hope we shall be in bath in the winter but remember Papa if we do go we must be in a good situation none of your queen squares for us or in the anxious supplement from Mary of upon my word I shall be pretty well off when you're all gone away to be happy at bath she could only resolve to avoid such self- delusion in future and think with heightened gratitude of the extraordinary blessing of having one such truly sympathizing friend as lady Russell the Mr musgroves had their own game to guard and to destroy their own horses dogs and newspapers to engage them and the females were fully occupied in all the other common subjects of housekeeping neighbors dress dancing and music she acknowledged it to be very fitting that every little social Commonwealth should dictate its own matters of discourse and hoped air long to become a not unworthy member of the one she was now transplanted into with the prospect of spending at least two months at uppercross it was high incumbent on her to clothe Her Imagination her memory and all her ideas in as much of uppercross as is possible she had no dread of these two months Mary was not so repulsive and unsisterly as Elizabeth nor so inaccessible to all influence of hers neither was there anything among the other component parts of the cottage inimical to comfort she was always on friendly terms with her brother-in-law and in the children who loved her nearly as well and respected her a great deal more than their mother she had an object of Interest amusement and wholesome exertion Charles Musgrove was civil and agreeable in sense and temper he was undoubtedly Superior to his wife but not of powers or conversation or Grace to make the past as they were connected together at all a dangerous contemplation though at the same time Anne could believe with Lady Russell that a more equal mate might have greatly improved him and that a woman of real understanding might have given more consequence to his character and more usefulness rationality and elegance to his habits and Pursuits as it was he did nothing with much as but Sport and his time was otherwise trifled away without benefit from books or anything else he had very good spirits which never seemed much affected by his wife's occasional loness bore with her unreasonableness sometimes to an's admiration and upon the whole though there was very often a little disagreement in which she had sometimes more share than she wished being appealed to by both parties they might pass for a happy couple they were always perfectly agreed in the want of more money and a strong inclination for a handsome present from his father but he here as on most topics he had the superiority for while Mary thought it a great shame that such a present was not made he always contended for his father's having many other uses for his money and a right to spend it as he liked as to the management of their children his theory was much better than his wife's and his practice not so bad I could manage them very well if it were not for Mary's interference was what Anne often heard him say and had a good deal of faith in but when listening in turn to Mary's reproach of Charles spoils the children so that I cannot get them into any order she never had the smallest temptation to say very true one of her least agreeable circumstances of her residence there was her being treated with too much confidence by all parties and being too much in the secret of the complaints of each house known to have some influence with her sister she was continually requested or at least receiving hints to exert it beyond what was practicable I wish you could persuade Mary not to be always fancying herself ill was Charles's language and in an unhappy mood Thus Spoke Mary Mary I do believe if Charles were to see me dying he should not think there was anything the matter with me I am sure an if you would you might persuade him that I really am very ill a great deal worse than I ever own Mary's Declaration was I hate sending the children to the great house though their Grandmama is always wanting to see them for she humors and indulges them to such a degree and gives them so much trash and sweet things that they are sure to come back sick and cross for the rest of the day and Mrs Musgrove took the first opportunity of being alone with Anne to say oh Miss Anne I cannot help wishing Mrs Charles had a little of your method with those children they are quite different creatures with you but to be sure in general they are so spoiled it is a pity you cannot put your sister in the way of managing them they are as fine healthy children as ever were seen poor little deers without partiality but Mrs Charles knows no more how they should be treated bless me how Troublesome they are sometimes I assure you Miss Anne it prevents my wishing to see them at our house so often as I otherwise should I believe believe Mrs Charles is not quite pleased with my not inviting them oftener but you know it is very bad to have children with one that one is obligated to be checking every moment don't do this and don't do that or that one can only keep in tolerable order by more cake than is good for them she had this communication moreover from Mary Mrs Musgrove thinks all her servants so steady that it would be high treason to call it in question but I am sure without exaggeration that her upper housemid and laundry ma instead of being in their business are gading about The Village all day long I meet them wherever I go and I declare I never go twice into the nursery without seeing something of them if jamaa were not the trustiest steadiest creature in the world it would be enough to spoil her for she tells me they are always tempting her to take a walk with them and on Mrs musgrove's side it was I make a rule of never interfering in any of my daughter-in-law's concerns for I know it would not do but I shall tell you Miss Anne because you may be able to set things to rights that I have no very good opinion of Mrs Charles's Nursery made I hear strange stories of her she's always upon the Gad and from my own knowledge I can declare she is such a fine dressing lady that she is enough to ruin any servant she comes near Mrs Charles quite swears by her I know but I just give you this hint that you may be upon the watch because if you see anything a miss you need not be afraid of mentioning it again it was Mary's complaint that Mrs MGR was very apt not to give her the Precedence that was her due when they dined at the great house with other families and she did not see any reason why she was to be considered so much at home as to lose her place and one day when Anne was walking with only the musgroves one of them after talking of rank people of rank and jealousy of rank said I have no scruple of observing to you how nonsensical some persons are about their place because all the world knows how easy and indifferent you are about it but I wish anybody could give Mary a hint that it would be a great deal better if she were not so very tenacious especially if she would not be always putting herself forward to take place of Mama nobody doubts her her right to have precedence of mamama but it would be more becoming in her not to be always insisting on it it is not that mamama cares about it in the least in the world but I know it is taken notice of by many persons how was an to set all these matters to rights she could do little more than listen patiently soften every grievance and excuse each to the other give them all hints of the forbearance necessary between such near neighbors and make those hints broadest which were meant for her sister's benefit in all other respects her visit began and eded very well her own Spirits improved by change of place and subject by being removed three miles from Kellen Mary's ailments lessened by having a constant companion and their daily intercourse with the other family since there was neither Superior affection confidence nor employment in the cottage to be interrupted by it was rather an advantage it was certainly carried nearly as far as possible for they met every morning and hardly ever spent an evening a Sund but she believed they should not have done so well without the sight of Mr and Mrs musgrove's respectable forms in the usual places or without the talking laughing and singing of their daughters she played a great deal better than either of the Miss musgroves but having no voice no knowledge of the harp and no fond parents to sit by and fancy themselves delighted her performance was little thought of only out of Civility or to refresh the others as she was well aware she knew that when she played she was giving pleasure only to herself but this was no new sensation excepting one short period in her life she had never since the age of 14 never since the loss of her Dear Mother known the happiness of being listened to or encouraged by any just appreciation or real taste in music she had always been used to feel alone in the world and Mr and Mrs musgrove's fond partiality for their own daughter's performance and total indifference to any other persons gave her much more pleasure for their sakes than mortification for her own the party at the great house was sometimes increased by other company the neighborhood was not large but the musgroves were visited by everybody and had more dinner parties and more callers more visitors by invitation and by chance than any other family they were more completely popular the girls were wild for dancing and the evenings ended occasionally in an unpremeditated little ball there was a family of cousins within a walk of uppercross in less affluent circumstances who depended on the musgroves for all their Pleasures they would come at any time and help play at anything or dance anywhere and Anne very much preferring the office of musician to a more active post played country dances to them by the hour together a kindness which always recommended her musical powers to the notice of Mr and Mrs Musgrove more than anything else and often Drew this compliment well done Miss Anne very well done indeed Lord bless me how those little fingers of yours fly about so passed the first three weeks melus came and now Anne's heart must be in kelleng again a beloved home made over to others all the precious rooms and Furniture Groves and Prospects beginning to own other eyes and other limbs she could not think of much else on the 29th of September and she had this sympathetic touch in the evening from Mary Who on having occasion to note down the day of the month exclaimed dear me is not this the day the Crofts were to come to Kellen I am glad I did not think of it before how low it makes me the crofs took possession with true Naval alertness and were to be visited Mary deplored the necessity for herself nobody knew how much she should suffer she should put it off as long as she could but was not easy until she had talked Charles into driving her over on an early day and was in a very animated comfortable state of imaginary agitation when she came back Anne had very sincerely rejoiced in there being no means of her going she wished however to see the Crofts and was glad to be within when the visit was returned they came the Master of the House was not at home but the two sisters were together and as it chanced that Mrs Croft fell to the share of Anne while the Admiral Sat by Mary and made himself very agreeable by his good humored notice of her little boys she was was well able to watch for a likeness and if it failed her in the features to catch it in The Voice or in the turn of sentiment and expression Mrs Croft though neither tall nor fat had a squareness uprightness and vigor of form which gave importance to her person she had bright dark eyes good teeth and altogether an agreeable face though her rened and weather-beaten complexion the consequence of her having been almost as much at Sea as her husband made her seem to have lived some years longer in the world than her real eight and3 her manners were open easy and decided like one who had no distrust of herself and no doubts of what to do without any approach to coarseness however or any want of Good Humor Anne gave her credit indeed for feelings of great consideration towards herself in all that related to Kellen and it pleased her especially as she had satisfied herself in the very first half minute in the instant even of introduction that there was not the smallest symptom of any knowledge or suspicion on Mrs croft's side to give a bias of any sort she was quite easy on that head and consequently full of strength and courage till for a moment electrified by Mrs croft's suddenly saying it was you and not your sister I find that my brother had the pleasure of being acquainted with when he was in this country Anne hoped she had outlived the age of blushing but the age of emotion she certainly had not perhaps you may not have heard that he's married added Mrs Croft she could now answer as she ought and was happy to feel when Mrs croft's next words explained it to be Mr Wentworth of whom she spoke that she had said nothing which might not do for either brother she immediately felt how reasonable it was that Mrs crof should be thinking and speaking of Edward and not of Frederick and with shame at her own forgetfulness applied herself to the knowledge of their former neighbors present state with proper interest the rest was all Tranquility till just as they were moving she heard the Admiral say to Mary we expecting a brother of Mrs trts here soon I dare say you know him by name he was cut short by the eager attacks of the little boy C singing to him like an old friend and declaring he should not go and being too much engrossed by proposals of carrying them away in his coat Pockets Etc to have another moment for finishing or recollecting what he had begun am was left to persuade herself as well as she could that the same brother must still be in question she could not however reach such a degree of certainty as not to be anxious to hear whether anything had been said on the subject at the other house where the crops had previously been calling the folks of the great house were to spend the evening of this day at the cottage and it being now too late in the year for such visits to be made on foot the coach was beginning to be listened for when the youngest Miss Musgrove walked in that she was coming to apologize and that they should have to spend the evening by themselves was the first black idea and Mary was quite ready to be affronted when Louisa made all right by saying that she only came on foot to leave more room for the har which was bringing in the carriage and I will tell you our reason she added and all about it I am come on to give you notice that Papa and Mama are out of Spirits this evening especially mamama she is thinking so much of poor Richard and we agreed it would be best to have the harp for it seems to amuse her more than the piano Forte I will tell you why she is out of spirits when the Crofts called this morning they called here afterwards did not they they happened to say that her brother Captain Wentworth is just returned to England or paid off or something and is coming to see them almost directly and most unluckily it came into Mama's head when they were gone that Wentworth or something very like it was the name of Poor Richard's captain at one time I do not know when nor where but a great while before he died poor fellow and upon looking over his letters and things she found it was so and is perfectly sure that this must be the very man and her head is quite full of it and of poor Richard so we must be as merry as we can that she may not be dwelling upon such gloomy things the real circumstances of this prophetic piece of family history were that the musgroves had had the ill Fortune of a very Troublesome hopeless son and the Good Fortune to lose him before he reached his 20th year that he had been sent to see because he was stupid and unmanageable on Shore that he had been very little cared for At Any Time by his family though quite as much as he deserved seldom heard of and scarcely at all regretted when the intelligence of his death abroad had worked its way to uppercross two years before he had in fact though his sisters were now doing all they could for him by calling him poor Richard been nothing better than a thickheaded unfeeling unprofitable dick Musgrove who had never done anything to entitle himself to more than the abbreviation of his name living or dead he had been several years at Sea and had in the course of those removals to which all midshipmen are liable and especially such midshipman as every Captain wishes to get rid of been six months on board Captain Frederick wentworth's Fri the Laconia and from the Laconia he had under the influence of his captain written the only two letters which his father and mother had ever received from him during the whole of his absence that is to say the only two disinterested letters all the rest had been mere applications for money in each letter he had spoken well of his captain but yet so little were they in the habit of attending to such matters so unobservant and incurious were they as to the names of men or ships that it had made scarcely any impression at the time and that Mrs Musgrove should have been suddenly struck this very day with a recollection of the name of Wentworth as connected with her son seemed one of those extraordinary bursts of mind which do sometimes occur she had gone to her letters and found it all as she supposed and the rep perusal of these letters after so long an interval her poor son gone forever and all the strength of his faults forgotten had affected her spirits exceedingly and thrown her into greater grief for him than she had known on first hearing of his death Mr Musgrove was in a lesser degree affected likewise and when they reached the cottage they were evidently in want first of being listened to a new on this subject and afterwards of all the relief which cheerful companions could give them to hear them talking so much of Captain Wentworth repeating his name so often puzzling over past years and at last ascertaining that it might that it probably would turn out to be the very same Captain Wentworth whom they recollected meeting once or twice after their coming back from Clifton a very fine young man but they could not say whether it was seven or eight years ago was a new sort of trial to Anne's nerves she found however that it was one to which she must inure herself since he actually was expected in the country she must teach herself to be insensible on such points and not only did it appear that he was expected and speedily but the mother Groves and their warm gratitude for the kindness he had shown poor dick and the very high respect for his character stamped as it was by poor Dick's having been six months under his care and mentioning him in strong though not perfectly well spelt praise as a fine dashing fellow only too particular about the school Master were bent on introducing themselves and seeking his acquaintance as soon as they could hear of his arrival the resolution of doing so helped to form the comfort of their evening end of chapter 6 chapter 7 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 7 a very few days more and Captain wwor was known to be at Kellen and Mr Musgrove had called on him and come back warm in his praise and he was engaged with the Crofts to dine at uppercross by the end of another week it had been a great disappointment to Mr musgrow to find that no earlier day could be fixed so impatient was he to show his gratitude by seeing Captain Wentworth under his own roof and welcoming him to all that was strongest and best in his cellers but a week must pass only a week in Anne's Reckoning and then she supposed they must meet and soon she began to wish that she could feel secure even for a week Captain Wentworth made a very early return to Mr Musgrove Civility and she was all but calling in there in the same half hour she and Mary were actually setting forward for the great house where as she afterwards learned they must inevitably have found him when they were stopped by the eldest boys being at that moment brought home in consequence of a bad fall the child situation put the visit entirely aside but she could not hear of her escape with indifference even in the midst of the serious anxiety which they afterwards felt on his account his collarbone was found to be dislocated and such injury received in the back as roused the most alarming ideas it was an afternoon of distress and Anne had everything to do at once the Apothecary to send for the father to have pursued and informed the mother to support and keep from hysterics the servants to control the youngest child to banish and the poor suffering one to attend and soothe besides sending as soon as she recollected it proper notice to the other house which brought her an accession rather of frightened inquiring companions than a very useful assistance her brother's return was the first Comfort he could take best care of his wife and the second blessing was the arrival of the Apothecary till he came and had examined the child their apprehensions were the worst for being vague they suspected great injury but knew not where but now the collarbone was soon replaced and though Mr Robinson felt and felt and rubbed and looked grave and spoke low words to both the father and the aunt still they were all to hope the best and be able to part and eat their dinner in tolerable ease of mind and then it was just before they parted that the two young aunts were able so far to digress from their nephew's State as to give the information of Captain wentworth's visit staying 5 minutes behind their father and mother to Endeavor to express how perfectly delighted they were with him how much handsomer how infinitely more agreeable they thought him than any individual among their male acquaintance who had been at all a favorite before how glad they had been to hear Papa invite him to stay dinner how sorry when he said it was quite out of his power and how glad again when he had promised in reply to papar and Mama's farther pressing invitations to come and dine with them on the tomorrow actually on the tomorrow and he had promised it in so pleasant a manner as if he felt all the motive of their attention just as he ought and in short he had looked and said everything with such Exquisite Grace that they could assure them all their heads were both turned by him and off they ran quite as full of Glee as of love and apparently more full of Captain Wentworth than of little Charles the same story and the same raptures were repeated when the two girls came with their father through the Gloom of the evening to make inquiries and Mr Musgrove no longer under the first un easiness about his Heir could add his confirmation in praise and hope there would now be no occasion for putting Captain Wentworth off and only be sorry to think that the cottage party probably would not like to leave the little boy to give him the meeting oh no as to leaving the little boy both father and mother were in much too strong and recent alarm to bear the thought and Anne in the joy of the Escape could not help adding her warm protestations to theirs Charles Musgrove indeed afterward showed more of inclination the child was going on so well and he wished so much to be introduced to Captain Wentworth that perhaps he might join them in the evening he would not dine from home but he might walk in for half an hour but in this he was eagerly opposed by his wife with oh no indeed Charles I cannot bear to have you go away only think if anything should happen the child had a good night and was going on well the next day it must be a work of time to ascertain that no injury had been done to the spine but Mr Robinson found nothing to increase alarm and Charles Musgrove began consequent ly to feel no necessity for longer confinement the child was to be kept in bed and amused as quietly as possible but what was there for a father to do this was quite a female case and it would be highly absurd in him who could be of no use at home to shut himself up his father very much wished him to meet Captain Wentworth and there being no sufficient reason against it he ought to go and it ended in his making a bold public declaration when he came in from shooting of his meaning to dress directly and died at the other house nothing can be going on better than the child said he so I told my father just now that I would come and he thought me quite right your sister being with you my love I have no scruple at all you would not like to leave him yourself but you can see I can be of no use an will send for me if anything is the matter husbands and wives generally understand when opposition will be vain Mary knew from Charles's manner of speaking that he was quite determined on going and that it would be of no use to tease him she said nothing therefore till he was out of the room but as soon as there was only Anne to hear so you and I are to be left to shift by ourselves with this poor sick child and not a creature coming near us all evening I knew how it would be this is always my luck if there is anything disagreeable going on men are always sure to get out of it and Charles is as bad as any of them very unfeeling I must say it is very unfeeling of him to be running away from his poor little boy talks of his being going on so well how does he know that he's going on well or that there may not be a sudden change half an hour hence I did not think Charles would have been been so unfeeling so here he is to go away and enjoy himself and because I am the poor mother I am not allowed to stir and yet I am sure I am more unfit than anybody else to be about the child my being the mother is the very reason why my feelings should not be tried I am not at all equal to it you saw how hysterical I was yesterday but that was only the effect of the suddenness of your alarm of the shock you will not be hysterical again I dare say we shall have nothing to distress us I perfectly understand Mr son's directions and have no fears and indeed Mary I cannot Wonder at your husband nursing does not belong to a man it is not his Province a sick child is always the mother's property her own feelings generally make it so I hope I am as fond of my child as any mother but I do not know that I am of any more use in the sick room than Charles for I cannot be always scolding and teasing the poor child when it is ill and you saw this morning that if I told him to keep quiet he was sure to begin kicking about I have not nerves for the sort of of thing but could you be comfortable yourself to be spending the whole evening away from the poor boy yes you see his papa can and why should not I jamaa is so careful and she could send us word every hour how he was I really think Charles might as well have told his father we would all come I am not more alarmed about little Charles now than he is I was dreadfully alarmed yesterday but the case is very different today well if you do not think it too late to give notice for yourself suppose you were to go as well as your husband leave little Charles to my care Mr and Mrs Musgrove cannot think it wrong while I remain with him are you serious cried Mary her eyes brightening dear me that's a very good thought very good indeed to be sure I may just as well go as not for I am of no use at home am I and it only harasses me you who have not a mother's feelings are a great deal the properest person you can make little Charles do anything he always Minds you at a word it will be a great deal better than leaving him only with jamaa oh I shall certainly go I am sure I ought if I can quite as much as Charles for they want me excessively to be acquainted with Captain Wentworth and I know you do not mind being left alone an excellent thought of yours indeed Anne I will go and tell Charles and get ready directly you can send for us you know at a moment's notice if anything is the matter but I dare say there will be nothing to alarm you I should not go you may be sure if I did not feel quite at ease about my dear child the next moment she was tapping at her husband's dressing room door and as Anne followed her upstairs she was in time for the whole conversation which began with Mary saying in a tone of great exaltation I mean to go with you Charles for I am of no more use at home than you are if I were to shut myself up forever with the child I should not be able to persuade him to do anything he did not like Anne will stay Anne undertakes to stay at home and take care of him it is Anne's own proposal and so I shall go with you which will be a great deal better for I have not dined at the other house since Tuesday this is very kind of Anne was her husband's answer and I should be very glad to have you go but it seems rather hard that she should be left at home by herself to nurse our sick child Anne was now at hand to take up her own cause and the sincerity of her manner being soon sufficient to convince him where conviction was at least very agreeable he had no further Scruples as to her being left to dine alone though he still wanted her to join them in the evening when the child might be at rest for the night and kindly urged her to let him come and fetch her but she was quite unpersuadable and this being the case she had airong the pleasure of seeing them set off together in High Spirits they were gone she hoped to be happy however oddly constructed such happiness might seem as for herself she was left with as many sensations of comfort as were perhaps ever likely to be hers she knew herself to be of the first utility to the child and what was it to her if Frederick Wentworth were only half a mile distant making himself agreeable to others she would have liked to know how he felt as to a meeting perhaps indifferent if indifference could exist under such circumstances he must be either IND indent or unwilling had he wished ever to see her again he need not have waited till this time he would have done what she could not but believe that in his place she should have done long ago when events had early been giving him the independence which alone had been wanting her brother and sister came back delighted with their new acquaintance and their visit in general there had been music singing talking laughing all that was most agreeable Charming manners in Captain Wentworth no shyness or Reserve they seemed all to know each other perfectly and he was coming the very next morning to shoot with Charles he was to come to breakfast but not at the cottage though that had been proposed at first but then he had been pressed to come to the great house instead and he seemed afraid of being in Mrs Charles musgrove's Way on account of the child and therefore somehow they hardly knew how it ended in Charles's being to meet him to breakfast at his father's Anne understood it he wished to avoid seeing her he had inquired after her she found slightly as might suit a former slight acquaintance seeming to acknowledge such as she had acknowledge knowed actuated perhaps by the same view of escaping introduction when they were to meet the morning hours of the cottage were always later than those of the other house and on the tomorrow the difference was so great that Mary and Anne were not more than beginning breakfast when Charles came in to say that they were just setting off that he was come for his dogs that his sisters were following with Captain Wentworth his sisters meaning to visit Mary and the child and Captain Wentworth proposing also to wait on her for a few minutes if not inconvenient and though Charles had answered for the child's being in no such stat as could make it inconvenient Captain Wentworth would not be satisfied without his running on to give notice Mary very much gratified by this attention was delighted to receive him while a thousand feelings rushed on Anne of which this was the most consoling that it would soon be over and it was soon over in 2 minutes after Charles's preparation the others appeared they were in the drawing room her eye half met Captain wentworth's a bow a curtsy past she heard his voice he talked to Mary said all that was right said something to the Miss musgroves enough to mark an easy footing the room seemed full full of persons and voices but a few minutes ended it Charles showed himself at the window all was ready their visitor had bowed and was gone the Miss musgroves were gone too suddenly resolving to walk to the end of the village with the Sportsman the room was cleared and Anne might finish her breakfast as she could it is over it is over she repeated to herself again and again in nervous gratitude the worst is over Mary talked but she could not attend she had seen him they had met they had been once more in the same room soon however she began to reason with herself and tried to be feeling less 8 years almost 8 years had passed since all had been given up how absurd to be resuming the agitation which such an interval had banished into distance and indistinctness what might not 8 years do events of every description changes alienations removals all all must must be comprised in it and Oblivion of the past how natural how certain too it included nearly a third part of her own life alas with all her reasoning she found that to retentive feelings 8 years may be a little more than nothing now how were his sentiments to be read was this like wishing to avoid her and the next moment she was hating herself for the Folly which asked the question on one other question which perhaps her utmost wisdom might not have prevented she was soon spared all suspense where after the Miss musgroves had returned and finished their visit at the cottage she had this spontaneous information from Mary Captain Wentworth is not very Gallant by you Anne though he was so attentive to me Henrietta asked him what he thought of you when they went away and he said you were so altered he should not have known you again Mary had no feelings to make her respect her sisters in a common way but she was perfectly unsuspicious of being inflicting any peculiar wound altered Beyond his knowledge Anne fully submitted in silent deep mortification doubtless it was so and she could take no revenge for he was not altered or not for the worse she had already acknowledged it to herself and she could not think differently let him think of her as he would no the years which had destroyed her Youth and Bloom had only given him a more glowing manly open look in no respect lessening his personal advantages she had seen the same Frederick Wentworth so altered that he should not have known her again these were Words which could not but dwell with her yet she soon began to Rejoice that she had heard them they were of sobering tendency they allayed agitation they composed and consequently must make her happier Frederick Wentworth had used such words or something like them but without an idea that they would be carried round to her he had thought her wretchedly altered and in the first moment of appeal had spoken as he felt he had not forgiven Anne Elliot she had used him ill deserted and disappointed him and worse she had shown a feebleness of character in doing so which his own decided confident temper could not endure she had given him up to oblige others it had been the effect of overp persuasion it had been weakness and timidity he had been most warmly attached to her and had never seen a woman since whom he thought her equal but except from some natural sensation of curiosity he had no desire of meeting her again her power with him was gone forever it was now his object to marry he was rich and being turned on Shore fully intended to settle as soon as he could be properly tempted actually looking round ready to fall in love with all the speed which a clear head and a quick taste could allow he had a heart for either of the Miss musgroves if they could catch it a heart in short for any pleasing young woman who came in his way excepting an Elliot this was his only secret exception when he said to his sister in answer to her suppositions yes here I am Sophia quite ready to make a foolish match anybody between 50 and 30 may have me for asking a little beauty and a few smiles and a few compliments to the Navy and I am a lost man should not this be enough for a sailor who has had no Society among women to make him nice he said it she knew to be contradicted his bright proud eye spoke the conviction that he was nice and Anne Elliot was not out of his thoughts when he more seriously described the woman he should wish to meet with a strong mind with sweetness of manner made the first and the last of the description that is the woman I want said he something a little inferior I shall of course put up with but it must not be much if I am a fool I shall be a fool indeed for I have thought on the subject more than most men end of chapter 7 chapter eight of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 8 from this time Captain Wentworth and Anne Elliot were repeatedly in the same Circle they were soon dining in company together at Mr musgroves for the little boy State could no longer Supply his aunt with a pretense for absenting herself and this was but the beginning of other dings and other meetings whether former feelings were to be renewed must be brought to the proof former times must undoubtedly be brought to the recollection of each they could not but be reverted to the year of their engagement could not but be named by him in the little narratives or descriptions which conversation called forth his profession qualified him his disposition led him to talk and that was in the year six that happened before I went to sea and the year six occurred in the course of the first evening they spent together and though his voice did not falter and though she had no reason to suppose his eye wandering towards her while he spoke Anne felt the utter impossibility from her knowledge of his mind that he could be unvisited by remembrance any more than herself there must be the same immediate Association of thought though she was very far from conceiving it to be of equal pain the they had no conversation together no intercourse but what the commonest civility required once so much to each other now nothing there had been a time when of all the large party now filling the drawing room at uppercross they would have found it most difficult to cease to speak to one another with the exception perhaps of Admiral and Mrs Croft who seemed particularly attached and happy an could allow no other exceptions even among the married couples there could have been no two hearts so open no tastes so similar no feeling so in unison no countenances so beloved now they were as strangers nay worse than strangers for they could never become acquainted it was a Perpetual Arrangement when he talked she heard the same voice and discerned the same mind there was a very general ignorance of all Naval matters throughout the party and he was very much questioned and especially by the two Miss musgroves who seemed hardly to have any eyes but for him as to the manner of living on board daily regulations Food hours Etc and their surprise at his accounts at Learning the degree of accommodation and Arrangement which was practicable Drew from him some pleasant ridicule which reminded Anne of the early days when she too had been ignorant and she too had been accused of supposing sailors to be living on board without anything to eat or any cook or dress it if there were or any servant to wait or any knife and fork to use from thus listening and thinking she was roused by a whisper of Mrs musgroves who overcome by fond regrets could not help saying ah Miss Anne if it had pleased heaven to spare my poor son I dare say he would have been just such another by this time Anne suppressed a smile and listened kindly while Mrs musgrow relieved her heart a little more and for a few minutes therefore could not keep Pace with the conversation of the others when she could let her attention take its natural course again she found the Miss musgroves just fetching the Navy list their own Navy list the first that had ever been at uppercross and sitting down together to pour over it with the professed view of finding out the ships that Captain Wentworth had commanded your first was the ASP I remember we will look for the ASP you will not find her there quite worn out and broken up I was the last man who commanded her hardly fit for service then reported fit for home service for a year or two and so I was sent off to the West Indies the girls looked all amazement the admiralty he continued entertained themselves now and them with sending a few hundred men to Sea in a ship not fit to be employed but they have a great many to provide for and among the thousands that may just as well go to the bottom as not it is impossible for them to distinguish the very set who may be least missed cried the Admiral what stuff these young fellows talk never was a better Sloop than the ASP in her day for an oldb built Sloop you would not see her equal lucky fell to get her he knows there must have been 20 better men than himself applying for her at the same time lucky fell to get anything so soon and with no more interest than his I felt my luck Admiral I assure you replied Captain Wentworth seriously I was as well satisfied with my appointment as you can desire it was a great object with me at that time to be at Sea a very great object I wanted to be doing something to be sure you did what should a young fellow like you do a Shore for half a year together if a man had not a wife he soon wants to be a float again but Captain Wentworth cried Louisa how vexed you must have been when you came to the ASP to see what an old thing they had given you I knew pretty well what she was before that day said he smiling I had no more discoveries to make than you would have as to the fashion and strength of any old police which you had seen lent about among half your acquaintance ever since you could remember and which at last on some very wet day is Lent to yourself ah she was a dear old ASP to me she did all that I wanted I knew she would I knew that we should either go to the bottom together or that she would be the making of me and I never had two days of foul weather all the time I was at seeing her and after taking privateers enough to be very entertaining I had the good luck in my passage home the next Autumn to fall in with the very French frigate I wanted I brought her into Plymouth and here another instance of luck we had not been 6 hours in the sound when a gale came came on which lasted four days and nights and which would have done for poor old ASP in half the time our touch with a great nation not having much improved our condition for in 20 hours later I should only have been a gallant Captain Wentworth in a small paragraph at one corner of the newspapers and being lost in only a Sloop nobody would have thought about me Anne's shudderings were to herself alone but the Miss musgroves could be as open as they were sincere in their exclamations of pity and horror and so then I suppose said Mrs mgro in a low voice as if thinking aloud so then he went away to the lonia and there he met with our poor boy Charles my dear beckoning him to her do ask Captain Wentworth where it was he first met your poor brother I always forgot it was at jalter mother I know dig had been left ill at jalter with a recommendation from his former Captain to Captain Wentworth oh but Charles tell Captain Wentworth you need not be afraid of mentioning poor dick before me for it would be rather a pleasure to hear him talked of by such a good friend Charles being somewhat more mindful of the probability ities of the case only nodded in reply and walked away the girls were now hunting for the lonia and Captain Wentworth could not deny himself the pleasure of taking the precious volume into his own hands to save them the trouble and once more Reed allowed the little statement of her name and rate and present noncommissioned class observing over it that she too had been one of the best friends man ever had ah those were pleasant days when I had the lonia how fast I made money in her a friend of mine and I had such a lovely cruise together off the Western Islands poor Harville sister you know how much he wanted money worse than myself he had a wife excellent fellow I shall never forget his happiness he felt it all so much for her sake I wish for him again the next summer when I had still the same luck in the Mediterranean and I am sure sir said Mrs Musgrove it was a lucky day for us when you were put Captain into that ship we shall never forget what you did her feelings made her speak low and Captain Wentworth hearing only in part and probably not having dick Musgrove at all near his thoughts looked rather in suspense and as if waiting for more my brother whispered one of the girls m thinking of poor Richard poor dear fellow continued Mrs Musgrove he was grown so steady and such an excellent correspondent while he was under your care it would have been a happy thing if he had never left you I assure you Captain Wentworth we are very sorry he ever left you there was a momentary expression in Captain wentworth's face at this speech a certain glance of his bright eye and curl of his handsome mouth which convinced Anne that instead of sharing Mrs musgrove's kind wishes as to her son he had probably been at some pains to get rid of him but it was too transient an Indulgence of self- amusement to be detected by any who understood him less than herself in another moment he was perfectly collected and serious and almost instantly afterwards coming up to the sofa on which she and Mrs Musgrove were sitting took a place by the latter and entered into conversation with her in a low voice about her son doing it with so much sympathy and natural Grace as showed the kindest consideration for all that that was real and un absurd in the parents feelings they were actually on the same sofa for Mrs Musgrove had most readily made room for him they were divided only by Mrs Musgrove it was no insignificant barrier indeed Mrs Musgrove was of a comfortable substantial size infinitely more fitted by nature to express good cheer and good humor than tenderness and sentiment and while her agitations of Anne's slender form and pensive face may be considered as very completely screened Captain Wentworth should be allowed some credit for the self command with which he attended to her large fat sings over the destiny of a son whom alive nobody had cared for personal size and mental sorrow have certainly no necessary proportions a large bulky figure has as good a right to be in deep Affliction as the most graceful set of Limbs in the world but fair or not fair there are Unbecoming conjunctions which reason will patronize in vain which taste cannot tolerate which ridicule will seize the Admiral after taking two or three refreshing turns about the room with his hands behind him being called to order by his wife now came up to Captain Wentworth and without any observation of what he might be interrupting thinking only of his own thoughts began with if you had been a week later at Lisbon last spring Frederick you would have been asked to give a passage to Lady Mary gron and her daughters should I I am glad I was not a week later then the Admiral abused him for his want of gallantry he defended himself though professing that he would never willingly admit any ladies on board a ship of his excepting for a ball or a visit which a few hours might comprehend but if I know myself said he this is from no want of gallantry towards them it is rather from feeling how impossible it is with all one's efforts and all one sacrifices to make the accommodations on board such as women ought to have there can be no want of gallantry Admiral in rating the claims of women to every personal Comfort high and this is what I do I hate to hear of women on board or to see them on board and no ship under my command shall ever convey a family of ladies anywhere if I can help it this brought his sister upon him oh Frederick but I cannot believe it of you all idle refinement women may be as comfortable on board as in the best house in England I believe I have lived as much on board as most women and I know nothing superior to the accommodations of a man of war I declare I have not a comfort or an Indulgence about me even at Kellen Hall with a kind bow to and Beyond what I always had in most of the ships I have lived in and they have been five or together nothing to the purpose replied her brother you were living with your husband and you were the only woman on board but you yourself brought Mrs Harville her sister to her cousin and three children round from portsman to Plymouth where was this super fine extraordinary sort of gallantry of yours then all merged in my friendship sere I would assist any brother officer's wife that I could and I would bring anything of harvil from the end of the world if he wanted it but do not imagine that I did not feel it an evil in itself depend upon it they were all perfectly comfortable I might not like them the better for that perhaps such a number of women and children have no right to be comfortable on board my dear Frederick you are talking quite idly pray what would become of us poor sailor wives who often want to be conveyed to one port or another after our husbands if everybody had your feelings my feelings you see did not prevent my taking Mrs Harville and all her family to Plymouth but I hate to hear you talking so like a fine gentleman and as if women were all fine ladies instead of rational creatures we none of us expect to be in smooth water all our days ah my dear said the Admiral when he had got a wife he will sing a different tune when he is married if we have the good luck to live to another the war we shall see him do as you and I and a great many others have done we shall have him very thankful to anybody that will bring him his wife I that we shall now I have done cried Captain wedworth when Once married people begin to attack me with oh you will think very differently when you are married I can only say no I shall not and they say again yes you will and there is an end of it he got up and moved away what a great traveler you must have been momam said Mrs Musgrove to Mrs Croft pretty well maam in the 15 years of my marriage though many women have done more I have crossed the Atlantic four times and have been once to the East Indies and back again and only once besides being in different places about home Cork and Lisbon and jalter but I never went beyond the Straits and never was in the West Indies we do not call Bermuda or Bahama you know the West Indies Mrs Musgrove had not a word to say in descent she could not accuse herself of ever having called them anything in the whole course of her life and I do assure you mam pursued Mrs that nothing can exceed the accommodations of a man of war I speak you know of the higher rates when you come to a frigate of course you are more confined though any reasonable woman may be perfectly happy in one of them and I can safely say that the happiest part of my life has been spent on board a ship while we were together you know there was nothing to be feared thank God I've always been blessed with excellent health and no climate disagrees with me a little disordered always the first 24 hours of going to sea but never knew what sickness was afterwards the only only time I ever really suffered in body or mind the only time I ever fancied myself unwell or had any ideas of danger was the winter that I passed by myself at deal when the Admiral Captain Croft then was in the north Seas I lived in Perpetual fright at that time and had all manner of imaginary complaints from not knowing what to do with myself or when I should hear from him next but as long as we could be together nothing ever ailed me and I never met with the smallest inconvenience I to be sure yes indeed oh yes I'm quite of your opinion Mrs Croft was Mrs musgrove's hearty answer there is nothing so bad as a separation I am quite of your opinion I know what it is for Mr Musgrove always attends the aaar and I am so glad when they are over and he is safe back again the evening ended with dancing on its being proposed Anne offered her Services as usual and though her eyes would sometimes fill with tears as she sat at the instrument she was extremely glad to be employed and desired nothing in return but to be unobserved it was a merry joyous party and no one seemed in higher Spirits than Captain Wentworth she felt that he had everything to elevate him which general attention and deference and especially the attention of all the young women could do the mishter the females of the family of cousins already mentioned were apparently admitted to the honor of being in love with him and as for Henrietta and Louisa they both seemed so entirely occupied by him that nothing but the continued appearance of the most perfect Goodwill between themselves could have made it credible that they were not decided Rivals if he were were a little spoiled by such Universal such eager admiration who could Wonder these were some of the thoughts which occupied Anne while her fingers were mechanically at work proceeding for half an hour together equally without error and without Consciousness once she felt that he was looking at herself observing her aled features perhaps trying to trace in them the ruins of the face which had once Charmed him and once she knew that he must have spoken of her she was hardly aware of it till she heard the answer but then she was sure of his having asked his partner whether Miss Elliot never danced the answer was oh no never she has quite given up dancing she'd rather play she is never tired of playing once too he spoke to her she had left the instrument on the dancing being over and he had sat down to try to make out an air which he wished to give the miss musgrove's an idea of unintentionally she returned to that part of the room he saw her and instantly Rising said with studied politeness I beg your pardon Madam this is your seat and though she immediately Drew back with the decided negative he was not to be induced to sit down again an did not wish for more of such looks and speeches his cold politeness his ceremonious grace were worse than anything end of chapter 8 chapter 9 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 9 Captain Wentworth was to come to Kellen chest to a home to stay as long as he liked being as thoroughly the object of the Admiral's fraternal kindness as of his wife's he had intended on first arriving to proceed very soon into shupure and visit the brother settled in that country but the attractions of uppercross induced him to put this off there was so much of friendliness and of flattery and of everything most bewitching in his reception there the old was so hospitable the young so agreeable but he could not but resolve to remain where he was and take all the charms and Perfections of Edward's one wife upon credit a little longer it was soon up across with him almost every day the musgroves could hardly be more ready to invite than he to come particularly in the morning when he had no companion at home for the Admiral and Mrs Croft were generally out of doors together interesting themselves in their new possessions their grass and their sheep and dawling about in a way not endurable to a third person or driving out in a gig lately added to their establishment hither to there had been but one opinion of Captain Wentworth among the mus Gres and their dependencies it was unvarying warm admiration everywhere but this intimate footing was not more than established when a certain Charles hater returned among them to be a good deal disturbed by it and to think Captain Wentworth very much in the way Charles hater was the eldest of all the cousins and a very amiable pleasing young man between whom and Henrietta there had been a considerable appearance of attachment previous to Captain wentworth's introduction he was in orders and having a curacy in the neighborhood where resident was not required lived at his father's house only 2 miles from uppercross a short absence from home had left his fair one unguarded by his attentions at this critical period and when he came back he had the pain of finding very altered manners and of seeing Captain Wentworth Mrs Musgrove and Mrs hater were sisters they had each had money but their marriages had made a material difference in their degree of consequence Mr hater had some property of his own but it was insignificant compared with Mr musgrove's and while the mus Groves were in the first class of society in the country the young haters would from their parents' inferior retired and unpolished way of living and their own defective education have been hardly in any class at all but for their connection with uppercross this eldest son of course accepted who had chosen to be a scholar and a gentleman and who was very Superior in cultivation and manners to all the rest the two families had always been on excellent terms there being no Pride on one side and no Envy on the other and only such a consciousness of super superiority in the m musgroves has made them pleased to improve their cousins Charles's attentions to Henrietta had been observed by her father and mother without any disapprobation it would not be a great match for her but if Henrietta liked him and Henrietta did seem to like him Henrietta fully thought so herself before Captain Wentworth came but from that time cousin Charles had been very much forgotten which of the Two Sisters was preferred by Captain Wentworth was as yet quite doubtful as far as an's observ a reached Henrietta was perhaps the prettiest Louisa had the higher spirits and she knew not now whether the more gentle or the more lively character were most likely to attract him Mr and Mrs Musgrove either from seeing little or from an entire confidence in the discretion of both their daughters and of all the young men who came near them seemed to leave everything to take its chance there was not the smallest appearance of solicitude or remark about them in the mansion house but it was different at the cottage the young couple there were more disposed to speculate and wonder and Captain Wentworth had not been above four or five times in the Miss musgrove's company and Charles hater had but just reappeared when Anne had to listen to the opinions of her brother and sister as to which was the one liked best Charles gave it for Louisa Mary for Henrietta but quite agreeing that to have him marry either could be extremely delightful Charles had never seen a pleaser man in his life and from what he had once heard Captain windworth himself say was very sure that he had not made less than £20,000 by the war here was a fortune at once besides which there would be the chance of what might be done in any future war and he was sure Captain Wentworth was as likely a man to distinguish himself as any officer in the Navy oh it would be a capital match for either of his sisters upon my word it would replied Mary dear me if he should rise to any very great honors if he should ever be made a baronet lady windworth sounds very well that would be a noble thing indeed for Henrietta she would take place of me then and Henrietta would not dislike that sir Frederick and Lady Wentworth it would be but a new creation however and I never think much of your New Creations it suited Mary best to think Henrietta the one preferred on the very account of Charles hater whose pretension she wished to see put an end to she looked down very decidedly upon the haters and thought it would be quite a misfortune to have the existing connection between the families renewed very sad for herself and her children you know said she I cannot think him at all a fit match for Henrietta and considering the alliances which the musgroves have made she has no right to throw herself away I do not think any young woman has a right to make a choice that may be disagreeable and inconvenient to the principal part of her family and be giving bad connections to those who have not been used to them and pray who is Charles hater nothing but a country curate a most improper match for Miss Musgrove of uppercross her husband however would not agree with her here for besides having a regard for his cousin Charles hater was an eldest son and he saw things as an eldest son himself now you are talking nonsense Mary was therefore his answer it would not be a great match for Henrietta but Charles has a very fair chance through the spices of getting something from the bishop in the course of a year or two and you will please to remember that he is the eldest son whenever my uncle dies he steps into very pretty property the estate at winr is not less than 250 Acres besides the farm near taon which is some of the best land in the country I grant you that any of them but Charles would be a very shocking match for Henrietta and indeed it could not be he is the only one that could be possible but he is a very good-natured good sort of a fellow and whenever winr comes into his hands he will make a different sort of place of it and live in a very different sort of way and with that property he will never be a contemptible man good Freehold property no no Henrietta might do worse than marry Charles hater and if she has him and Louisa can get captain Wentworth I shall be very well satisfied Charles may say what he pleases cried Mary to Anne as soon as he was out of the room but it would be shocking to have hen Retta married Charles hater a very bad thing for her and still worse for me and therefore it is very much to be wished that Captain Wentworth May soon put him quite out of her head and I have very little doubt that he has she took hardly any notice of Charles hater yesterday I wish you had been there to see her behavior and as to Captain wentworth's liking Louisa as well as Henrietta it is nonsense to say so for he certainly does like Henrietta a great deal the best but Charles is so positive I wish you had been with us yesterday for then you might have decided between us and I am sure you would have thought as I did unless you had been determined to give it against me a dinner at Mr musgroves had been the occasion when all these things should have been seen by Anne but she had stayed at home under the mixed plea of a headache of her own and some return of indisposition in little Charles she had thought only of avoiding Captain Wentworth but an escape from being appealed to as an Umpire was now added to the advantages of a quiet evening as to Captain wentworth's views she deemed it of more consequence that he should know his own mind early enough enough not to be endangering the happiness of either sister or impeaching his own honor than that he should prefer Henrietta to Louisa or Louisa to Henrietta either of them would in all probability make him an affectionate goodh humored wife with regard to Charles's hater she had delicacy which must be pained by any likeness of Conduct in a well-meaning young woman and a heart to sympathize in any of the sufferings it occasioned but if Henrietta found herself mistaken in the nature of her feelings the alternation could not be understood too soon Charles hater had met with much to disquiet and mortify him in his cousin's Behavior she had too old a regard for him to be so wholly estranged as might in two meetings extinguish every past hope and leave him nothing to do but to keep away from uppercross but there was such a change as BEC very alarming when such a man as Captain Wentworth was to be regarded as the probable cause he had been absent only two Sundays and when they parted had left her interested even to the height of his wishes in his Prospect of soon quitting his present curacy and obtaining that of uppercross instead it had then seemed the object nearest her heart that Dr Shirley the Rector who for more than 40 years had been zealously discharging all the duties of his office but was now growing too infirm for many of them should be quite fixed on engaging a curate should make his curacy quite as good as he could afford and should give Charles hater the promise of it the advantage of his having come only to Upp across instead of going six miles another way of his having in every respect a better curacy of his belonging to their dear Dr Shirley and of dear good Dr Shirley's being relieved from the duty which he could no longer get through without most injurious fatigue had been a great deal even to Louisa but had been almost everything to Henrietta when he came back alas the Zeal of the business was gone by Louisa could not listen at all to his account of a conversation which he had just held with Dr Shirley she was at a window looking out for Captain Wentworth and even Henrietta had at best only a divided attention to give and seemed to forgotten all the former doubt and solicitude of the negotiation well I am very glad indeed but I always thought you would have it I always thought you sure it did not appear to me that in short you know Dr Shirley must have a curet and you had secured his promise is he coming Louisa one morning very soon after the dinner at the musgroves at which Anne had not been present Captain Wentworth walked into the drawing room at the cottage where were only herself and the little invalid Charles who was lying on the sofa the surprise of finding himself almost alone with Anne Elliot deprived his manners of their usual composure he started and could only say I thought that Miss musgroves had been here Mrs Musgrove told me I should find them here before he walked to the window to recollect himself and feel how he ought to behave they are upstairs with my sister they will be down in a few moments I dare say had been Anne's reply in all the confusion that was natural and if the child had not called her to come and do something for him she would have been out of the room the next moment and released Captain Wentworth as well as herself he continued at the window and after calmly and politely saying I hope the little boy is better was silent she was obliged to kneel down by the sofa and remained there to satisfy her patient and thus they continued a few minutes when to her very great satisfaction she heard some other person crossing the little vestibule she hoped on turning her head to see the master of the house but it proved to be one much less calculated for making matters easy Charles hater probably not at all better pleased by the sight of Captain Wentworth than Captain Wentworth had been by the sight of Anne she only attempted to say how do you do will you not sit down the others will be here presently Captain Wentworth however came from his window apparently not ill disposed for conversation but Charles hater soon put an end to his attempts by seating himself near the table and taking up the newspaper and Captain Wentworth returned to his window another minute brought another addition the younger boy a remarkable Stout forward child of 2 years old having got the door open for him by someone without made his determined appearance among them and went straight to the sofa to see what was going on and put in his claim to anything good that might be giving away there being nothing to eat he could only have some play and as his aunt would not let him tease his sick brother he began to fasten himself upon her as she knelt in such a way that busy as she was about Charles she could not Shake him off she spoke to him ordered intreated and insisted in vain once she did contrive to push him away but the boy had the greater pleasure in getting upon her back again directly Walter said she get down this moment you are extremely Troublesome I am very angry with you Walter cried Charles's hater why do you not do as your bid do not you hear your aunt speak come to me Walter come to cousin Charles but not a bit did Walter stir in another moment however she found herself in the state of being released from him someone was taking him from her though he had bent down her head so much that his little sturdy hands were unfastened from around her neck and he was resolutely borne away before she knew that Captain Wentworth had done it her Sensations on the discovery made her perfectly speechless she could not even thank him she could only hang over little Charles with most disordered feelings his kindness in stepping forward to her relief the manner the silence in which it had passed the little particulars of the circumstance with the conviction soon forced on her by the noise he was studiously making with the child that he meant to avoid hearing her thanks and rather sought to testify that her conversation was the least of his wants produced such a confusion of varying but very painful agitation as she could not recover from till enabled by the entrance of Mary and the Miss musgroves to make over her little patient to their cares and leave the room she could not stay it might have been an opportunity of watching the loves and jealousies of the four they were now allog together but she could stay for none of it it was evident that Charles hater was not well inclined towards Captain Wentworth she had a strong impression of his having said in a vexed tone of voice after Captain wentworth's interference you ought to have minded me Walter I told you not to tease your aunt and good comp apprehend his regretting that Captain Wentworth should do what he ought to have done himself but neither Charles hater's feelings nor anybody's feelings could interest her till she had a little better arranged her own she was ashamed of herself quite ashamed of being so nervous so overcome by such a trifle but so it was and it required a long application of solitude and reflection to recover her end of chapter 9 chapter 10 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 10 other opportunities of making her observations could not fail to occur Anne had soon been in company with all the four together often enough to have an opinion though too wise to acknowledge as much at home where she knew it would have satisfied neither husband nor wife for while she considered Louisa to be rather the favorite she could not but think as as far as she might dare to judge from memory and experience that Captain Wentworth was not in love with either they were more in love with him yet there it was not love it was a little fever of admiration but it might probably must end in love with some Charles hater seemed aware of being slighted and yet Henrietta had sometimes the a of being divided between them Anne longed for the power of representing to them all what they were about and of pointing out some of the evil they were exposing themselves to she did not attribute guile to any it was the highest satisfaction to her to believe Captain Wentworth not in the least aware of the pain he was occasioning there was no Triumph no pitiful Triumph in his manner he had probably never heard and never thought of any claims of Charles hater he was only wrong in accepting the attentions for accepting must be the word of two young women at once after a short struggle however Charles hater seemed to quit the field 3 days had passed without his coming once to uppercross a most decided change he had even refused one regular invitation to dinner and having been found on the occasion by Mr Musgrove with some large books before him Mr and Mrs Musgrove were sure all could not be right and talked with grave faces of his studying himself to death it was Mary's hope and belief that he had received a positive dismissal from Henrietta and her husband lived under the constant dependence of seeing himor tomorrow an could only feel that Charles hater was wise one morning about this time Charles Musgrove and Captain Wentworth being gon a shooting together as the sisters in the cottage were sitting quietly at work they were visited at the window by the sisters from the mansion house it was a very fine November day and the Miss musgroves came through the little grounds and stopped for no other purpose than to say that they were going to take a long walk and therefore concluded Mary could not like to go with them and when Mary immediately replied with some jealousy at not being supposed a good walker oh yes I should like to join you very much I am very fond of a long walk Anne felt persuaded by the looks of the two girls that it was precisely what they did not wish and admired again the sort of necessity which the family habit seemed to produce of everything being to be communicated and everything being to be done together however undesired and inconvenient she tried to dissuade Mary from going but in vain and that being the case thought it best to accept the Miss musgrove's much more cordial invitation to herself to go likewise as she might be useful in turning back with her sister and lessening the interference in any plan of their own I cannot imagine why they should suppose I should not like a long walk said Mary as they went upstairs everybody is always supposing that I am not a good Walker and yet they would not have been pleased if we had refused to join them when people come in this manner on purpose to ask us how can one say no just as they were setting off the gentleman returned they had taken out a young dog who had spoiled their Sport and sent them back early their time and strength and Spirits were therefore exactly ready for this walk and they entered into it with pleasure could Anne have foreseen such a junction she would have stayed at home but from some feelings of interest and curiosity she fancied now that it was too late to retract and the whole six set forward together in the direction chosen by the Miss musgroves who evidently considered the Walkers under their guidance Anne's object was not to be in the way of anybody and where the narrow paths across the fields made any separations necessary to keep with her brother and sister her pleasure in the walk must arise from the exercise and the day from the view of the last Smiles of the Year upon the tny leaves and withered Hedges and from repeating to herself some few of the Thousand poetical descriptions extent of autumn That season of peculiar and inexhaustible influence on the mind of taste and tenderness That season which had drawn from every poet worthy of being read some attempt at description or some lines of feeling she occupied her mind as much as possible in such like musings and quotations but it was not possible that when Within Reach of Captain wentworth's conversation with either of the Miss musgroves she should not try to hear it yet she caught little very remarkable it was mere Lively chat such as any young persons on an intimate footing might fall into he was more engaged with Louisa than with Henrietta Louisa certainly put more forward for his notice than her sister this distinction appeared to increase and there was one speech of Louisa's which struck her after one of the many Praises of the day which were continually bursting forth Captain Wentworth added what glorious weather for the Admiral and my sister they meant to take a long drive this morning perhaps we may hail them from some of these Hills they talked of coming into this side of the country I wonder whereabouts they will upset today oh it does happen very often I assure you but my sister makes nothing of it she would as leave be tossed out at is not ah you make the most of it I know cried Louisa but if it were really so I should do just the same in her place if I loved a man as she loves the Admiral I would always be with him nothing should ever separate us and I would rather be overturned by him than driven safely by anybody else it was spoken with enthusiasm had you cried he catching the same tone I honor you and there was silence between them for a little while Anne could not immediately fall into a quotation again the sweet scenes of autumn were for a while put by unless and tender sonnet fraught with the APT analogy of the declining year with declining happiness and the images of Youth and hope and spring all gone together blessed her memory she roused herself to say as they struck by order into another path is not this one of the ways to winthrip but nobody heard or at least nobody answered her Winthrop however or its environs for young men are sometimes to be met with strolling about near home was their destination and after another half mile of gradual Ascent through large enclosures where the plows at work and the fresh-made path spoke the farmer counteracting the sweets of poetical despondence and meaning to have spring again they gained the summit of the most considerable Hill which parted up across and Winthrop and soon commanded a full view of the latter at the foot of the hill on the other side Winthrop Without Beauty and without dignity was stretched before them in an indifferent house standing low and hemmed in by the barns and buildings of a farmyard Mary exclaimed bless me here is Winthrop I declare I had no idea well now I think we had better turn back I am excessively tired Henrietta conscious and ashamed and seeing no cousin Charles walking along any path or leaning against any gate was ready to do as Mary wished but no said Charles Musgrove and no no cried Louisa more eagerly and taking her sister aside seemed to be arguing the matter warmly Charles in the meanwhile was very decidedly declaring his resolution of calling on his aunt now that he was so near and very evidently though more fearfully trying to induce his wife to go too but this was one of the points on which the lady showed her strength and when he recommended the advantage of resting herself a quarter of an hour at winr as she felt so tired she resolutely answered oh no indeed walking up that hill again would do her more harm than any sitting down could do her good and in short her look and manner declared that go she would not after a little succession of these sort of debates and consultations it was settled between Charles and his two sisters that he and Henrietta should just run down for a few minutes to see their aunt and cousins while the rest of the party waited for them at the top of the hill Louisa seemed the principle arranger of the plan and as she went a little way with them down the hill still talking to Henrietta Mary took the opportunity of looking scornfully around her and saying to Captain Wentworth it is very unpleasant having such connections but I assure you I have never been in the house above twice in my life she received no other answer than an artificial assenting smile followed by a contemptuous glance as he turned away which Anne perfectly knew the meaning of the brow of the hill where they remained was a cheerful spot Louisa returned and Mary finding a comfortable seat for herself on the step of a style was very well satisfied so long as the others all stood about her but when Louisa Drew Captain Wentworth away to try for a gleaning of nuts in an adjoining head hedro and they were gone by degrees quite Out of Sight and Sound Mary was happy no longer she quarreled with her own seat was sure Louisa had got a much better somewhere and nothing could prevent her from going to look for a better also she turned through the same gate but could not see them Anne found a nice seat for her on a dry Sunny Bank under the hedg r in which she had no doubt of there still being in some spot or other Mary sat down for a moment but it would not do she was sure Louisa had found a better seat somewhere else and she would go on till she overtook her Anne really tired herself was glad to sit down and she very soon heard Captain Wentworth and Louisa in the hedg r behind her as if making their way back along the rough wild sort of Channel down the center they were speaking as they drew near Louisa's voice was the first distinguished she seemed to be in the middle of some eager speech what Anne first heard was and so I made her go I could not bear that she should be frightened from the visit by such nonsense what would I be turned back from doing a thing that I had determined to do and that I knew to be right by the hes and interference of such a person or of any person I may say no I have no idea of being so easily persuaded when I have made up my mind I have made it and Henrietta seemed entirely to have made up hers to call it winr today and yet she was as near giving it up out of nonsensical complacence she would have turned back then but for you she would indeed I am almost ashamed to say it happy for her to have such a mind as yours at hand after the hint You Gave just now which did but confirm my own observations the last time I was in company with him I need not affect to have no comprehension of what is going on I see that more than a mere dutiful morning visit to your aunt was in question and well beti him and her too when it comes to things of consequence when they are placed in circumstances requiring fortitude and strength of mind if she have not resolution enough to resist idle interference in such a trifle as this your sister is an amiable creature but yours is the character of decision and firmness I see if you value her conduct or happiness Infuse as much of your own Spirit into her as you can but this no doubt you have always been doing it is the worst evil of too yielding and indecisive a character that no influence over it can be depended on you are never sure of a good impression being durable everybody May sway it let those who would be happy be firm here is a nut said he catching one down from an upper bow to exemplify a beautiful glossy nut which blessed with original strength has outlived all the storms of autumn not a puncture not a weak spot anywhere this nut he continued with playful sality while so many of his Brethren have fallen and been trodden underfoot is still in possession of all the happiness that a hazelnut can be supposed capable of then returning to his former Earnest tone my first wish for all whom I am interested in is that they should be firm if Louisa Musgrove would be beautiful and happy in her November of life she will cherish all her present powers of mind he had done and was unanswered it would have surprised Anne if Louisa could have readily answered such a speech words of such interest spoken with such serious warmth she could imagine what Louisa was feeling for herself she feared to move lest she should be seen while she remained her Bush of low rambling Holly protected her and they were moving on before they were Beyond her hearing however Louisa spoke again Mary is good natured in enough in many respects said she but she does sometimes provoke me excessively by her nonsense and pride the Elliot Pride she has a great deal too much of the Elliot Pride we do so wish that Charles had married Anne instead I suppose you know he wanted to marry Anne after a moment's pause Captain Wentworth said do you mean that she refused him oh yes certainly when did that happen I do not exactly know for Henrietta and I were at school at the time but I believe about a year before he married Mary I wish she had accepted him we should all have liked her a great deal better and Papa and Mama always think it was her great friend lady Russell's doing that she did not they think Charles might not be learned and bookish enough to please lady Russell and that therefore she persuaded Anne to refuse him the sounds were retreating and Anne distinguished no more her own emotions still kept her fixed she had much to recover from before she could move the listener's proverbial fate was not absolutely hers she had heard no evil of herself but she had heard a great deal of very painful import she saw how her own character was considered by Captain Wentworth and there had been just that degree of feeling and curiosity about her in his manner which must give her extreme agitation as soon as she could she went after Mary and having found and walked back with her to their former station by the style felt some comfort in their whole party being immediately afterwards collected and once more in motion together her spirits wanted the solid ude and silence which only numbers could give Charles and Henrietta returned bringing as may be conjectured Charles hater with them the manuia of the business Anne could not attempt to understand even Captain Wentworth did not seem admitted to perfect confidence here but that there had been a withdrawing on the gentleman's side and a relenting on the ladies and that they were now very glad to be together again did not admit a doubt henrieta looked a little ashamed but very well pleased Charles hater are exceedingly happy and they were devoted to each other almost from the first instant of their all setting forward for uppercross everything now marked out Louisa for Captain Wentworth nothing could be pler and where many divisions were necessary or even where they were not they walked side by side nearly as much as the other two in a long strip of Meadowland where there was ample space for all they were thus divided forming three distinct parties and to that party of the three which boasted least animation and least complacence an necessarily belonged she joined Charles and Mary and was tired enough to be very glad of Charles's other arm but Charles though in very good humor with her was out of temper with his wife Mary had shown herself disobliging to him and was now to reap the consequence which consequence was his dropping her arm almost every moment to cut off the heads of some nettles in the headed with his switch and when Mary began to complain of it and lament herself being ill used according to custom in being on the Hedge side while Anne was never incommoded on the other he dropped the arms of both to hunt after a weasel which he had momentary glance of and they could hardly get him along at all this Long Meadow bordered a lane which their footpath at the end of it was to cross and when the party had all reached the Gate of exit the carriage advancing in the same direction which had been sometime heard was just coming up and proved to be Admiral croft's gig he and his wife had taken their intended drive and were returning home upon hearing how long a walk the young people had engaged in they kindly offered a seat to any lady who might be particularly tired it would save her a full Mile and they were going through uppercross the invitation was General and generally declined the Miss musgroves were not at all tired and Mary was either offended by not being asked before any of the others or what Louisa called the Elliot Pride could not endure to make a third in a one horse Shaz the walking party had crossed the lane and were surmounting an opposite style and the Admiral was putting his horse in motion again when Captain Wentworth cleared the Hedge in a moment to say something to his sister this something might be guessed by its effects Miss Elliot I sure you are tired cried Mrs Croft do let us have the pleasure of taking you home here is excellent room for three I assure you if we were all like you I believe we might sit four you must indeed you must Anne was still in the lane and though instinctively beginning to decline she was not allowed to proceed the Admiral's kind urgency came in support of his wies they would not be refused they compressed themselves into the smallest possible space to leave her Accord corner and Captain Wentworth without saying a word turned to her and quietly obliged her to be assisted into the carriage yes he had done it she was in the carriage and felt that he had placed her there that his will and his hands had done it that she owed it to his perception of her fatigue and his resolution to give her rest she was very much affected by the view of his disposition towards her which all these things made apparent this little circumstance seemed the completion of all that had gone before she understood him he could not forgive her but he could not be unfeeling though condemning her for the past and considering it with high and unjust resentment though perfectly careless of her and though becoming attached to another still he could not see her suffer without the desire of giving her relief it was a remainder of former sentiment it was an Impulse of pure though unacknowledged friendship it was a proof of his own warm and amiable heart which she could not contemplate without emotions so compounded of Pleasure and Pain that she knew not which prevailed her answers to the kindness and the remarks of her companions were at first unconsciously given they had traveled half their way along the Rough Lane before she was quite awake to what they said she then found them talking of Frederick he certainly means to have one or the other of those two girl Sophie said the Admiral but there is no saying which he has been running after them two long enough one would think to make up his mind I this comes of the piece if it were worn now he would have settled it long ago we Sailors Miss Elliot cannot afford to make long courtships in time of War how many days was it my dear between the first time of my seeing you and our sitting down together in our lodgings at North Yarmouth we had better not talk about it my dear replied Mrs Croft pleasantly for if Miss Elliot were to hear how soon we came to an understanding she would never be persuaded that we could be happy together I had known you by character however long before well and I had heard of you as a very pretty girl and what were we to wait for besides I do not like having such things so long in hand I wish Frederick would spread a little more candle and bring us home one of these young ladies to Kellen then there would always be company for them and very nice young ladies they both are I hardly know one from the other very goodh humored unaffected girls indeed said Mrs Croft in a tone of calmer praise such as made Anne suspect that her Keener Powers might not consider either of them as quite worthy of her brother and a very respectable family one could not be connected with better people my dear Admiral that post we shall certainly take that post but by coolly giving the Reigns a better Direction herself they happily passed the danger and by once afterwards judiciously putting out her hand they neither fell into a rut nor ran a foul of a dunard and Anne with some amusement at their style of driving which she imagined no bad representation of the general guidance of their Affairs found herself safely deposited by them at the cottage end of chapter 10 chapter 11 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jay Austin chapter 11 the time now approached for lady Russell's return the day was even fixed and Anne being engaged to join her as soon as she was resettled was looking forward to an early removal to Kellen and beginning to think how her own Comfort was likely to be affected by it it would Place her in the same village with Captain Wentworth within half a mile of him they would have have to frequent the same church and there must be intercourse between the two families this was against her but on the other hand he spent so much of his time at uppercross that in removing then she might be considered rather as leaving him behind than as going towards him and upon the whole she believed she must on this interesting question be the Gainer almost as certainly as in her change of domestic Society in leaving poor Mary for lady Russell she wished it might be possible for her to avoid ever seeing Captain Wentworth at the hall those rooms had witnessed former meetings which would be brought too painfully before her but she was yet more anxious for the possibility of Lady Russell and Captain Wentworth never meeting anywhere they did not like each other and no renewal of acquaintance now could do any good and were lady Russell to see them together she might think that he had too much self-possession and she too little these points formed her Chief solicitude in anticipating her removal from uppercross when she felt she had been stationed quite long enough her usefulness to little Charles would always give some sweetness to the memory of her two months visit there but he was gaining strength of pace and she had nothing else to stay for the conclusion of her visit however was Diversified in a way which she had not at all imagined Captain Wentworth after being unseen and unheard of at uppercross for two whole days appeared again among them to justify himself by a relation of what had kept him away a letter from his friend Captain Harville having found him out at last had brought intelligence of Captain Harv's being settled with his family at lime for the winter of there being therefore quite unknowingly within 20 mi of each other Captain Harville had never been in good health since a severe wound which he received two years before and Captain wentworth's anxiety to see him had determined him to go immediately to Lime he had been there for 4 and 20 hours his acquittal was complete his friendship warmly honored Lively interest excited for his friend and his description of the fine country about limes so finely attended to by the party that an Earnest desire to see lime themselves and a project for going thither was the consequence the young people were all wild to see lime Captain Wentworth talked of going there again himself and it was only 17 mil from uppercross though November the weather was by no means bad and in short Louisa who was the most eager of the eager having formed the resolution to go and besides the pleasure of doing as she liked being now armed with the idea of Merit and maintaining her own way bore down all the wishes of her father and mother for putting it off till summer and to Lime they were to go Charles Mary Anne Henrietta Louisa and Captain Wentworth the first heedless scheme had been to go in the morning and return at night but to this Mr Musgrove for the sake of his horses would not consent and when it came to be rationally considered a day in the middle of November would not leave much time for seeing a new place after deducting 7 hours as the nature of the country required for going and returning they were consequently to stay the night there and not to be expected back till the next day's dinner this was felt to be a considerable Amendment and though they all met at the great house at rather an early breakfast hour and set off very punctually it was so much past noon before the two carriages Mr musgrove's coach containing the four ladies and Charles's caracle in which he drove Captain Wentworth were descending The Long Hill into lime and entering upon the still steeper Street of the Town itself that it was very evident they would not have more than time for looking about them before the light and warmth of the day were gone after securing accommodations and ordering a dinner at one of the ins the next thing to be done was unquestionably to walk directly down to the Sea they were come too late in the year for any amusement or variety which lime as a public place might offer the rooms were shut up The Lodgers almost all gone scarcely any family but of the residents left and as there is nothing to admire in the buildings themselves the remarkable situation of the town the principal Street almost hurrying into the water the walk to the cob skirting around the pleasant Little Bay which in the season is animated with bathing machines and Company the cob itself its old wonders and new improvements with the very beautiful line of cliffs stretching out to the east of the town are what the stranger I will seek and a very strange stranger it must be who does not see charms in the immediate environs of lime to make him wish to know it better the scenes in its neighborhood charmouth with its high grounds and extensive sweeps of country and still more its sweet retired Bay backed by dark Cliffs where fragments of low Rock among the Sands make it the happiest spot for watching the flow of the tide for sitting in unwearied contemplation the Woody varieties of the cheerful Village of upim and above all pinny with its green chasms between romantic rocks where the scattered forest trees and Orchards of luxuriant growth decare that many a generation must have passed away since the first partial falling of the cliff prepared the ground for such a state where a scene so wonderful and so lovely is exhibited as May more than equal any of the resembling scenes of the far famed Isle of white these places must be visited and visited again to make the worth of lime understood the party from upper cross passing down by the now deserted and Melancholy looking rooms and still descending soon found found themselves on the seashore and lingering only as all must linger and Gaze on a first return to the Sea whoever deserved to look on it at all proceeded towards the cop equally their object in itself and on Captain wentworth's account for in a small house near the foot of an old Pier of unknown date where the haril settled Captain Wentworth turned in to call on his friend the others walked on and he was to join them on the cob they were by no means tired of wondering and admiring and not even Louisa seemed to feel that they had parted with Captain Wentworth long when they saw him coming after them with three companions all well known already by description to be captain and Mrs Harville and a captain benck who was staying with them Captain benick had some time ago been first leftenant of the lonia and the account which Captain Wentworth had given of him on his return from lime before his warm Praise of him as an excellent young man and an officer whom he had always valued highly which must have stamped him well in the esteem of every listener had been followed Follow by a little history of his private life which rendered him perfectly interesting in the eyes of all the ladies he had been engaged to Captain Harv's sister and was now mourning her loss they had been a year or two waiting for fortune and promotion Fortune came his prize money as left tenant being great promotion too came at last but Fanny Harville did not live to know it she had died the preceding summer while he was at sea captain Wentworth believed it impossible for man to be more attached to a woman than poor benick had been to Fanny Harville or to be more deeply Afflicted under the Dreadful change he considered his disposition as of the sort which must suffer heavily uniting very strong feelings with the Quiet serious and retiring manners and a decided taste for reading and sedentary Pursuits to finish the interest of the story the friendship between him and the Harel seemed if possible augmented by the event which closed all their views of Alliance and Captain benick was now living with them entirely Captain Harel had taken his present house for half a year his taste and his health and his fortune all directing him to a residence inexpensive and by the Sea and the Grandeur of the country and the retirement of lime in the winter appeared exactly adapted to Captain Ben's State of Mind the sympathy and Goodwill excited towards Captain benick was very great and yet said Anne to herself as they now moved forward to meet the party he has not perhaps a more Sorrowing heart than I have I cannot believe his prospects so blighted forever he is younger than I am younger in feeling if not in fact younger as a man he will rally again and be happy with another they all met and were introduced Captain harvil was a tall dark man with a sensible benevolent countenance a little lame and from strong features and want of Health looking much older than Captain Wentworth Captain benick looked and was the youngest of the three and compared with either of them a little man he had a pleasing face and a Melancholy air just as he ought to have and Drew back from conversation Captain Harville though not equaling Captain Wentworth in manners was a perfect gentleman unaffected warm and obliging Mrs Harville was a degree less polished than her husband seemed however to have the same good feelings and nothing could be more pleasant than their desire of considering the whole party as friends of their own because the friends of Captain Wentworth or more kindly hospitable than their in treaties for their all promising to dine with them the dinner already ordered at the in was at last though unwillingly accepted as an excuse but they seemed almost hurt that Captain Wentworth should have brought any such party to Lime without considering it as a thing of course that they should dine with them there was so much attachment to Captain Wentworth in all this and such a bewitching charm in a degree of hospitality so uncommon so unlike the usual style of give and take invitations and dinner of formality and display that Anne felt her spirits not likely to be benefited by an increasing acquaintance among his brother officers these would have been all my friends was her thought and she had to struggle against a great tendency to loness on quitting the cob they all went indoors with their new friends and found rooms so small as none but those who invite from the heart could think capable of accommodating so many Anne had a moment's astonishment on the subject herself but it was soon lost in the pleasanter feelings which sprang from the sight of all the ingenious contrivances and nice Arrangements of Captain Harville to turn the actual space to the best account to supply the deficiencies of lodging house furniture and defend the windows and doors against the winter storms to be expected the varieties in the fitting up of the rooms where the common necessaries provided by the owner in the common indifferent plight were contrasted with some few articles of a rare species of wood excellently worked up and with something curious and valuable from from all the distant countries Captain Harville had visited were more than amusing to Anne connected as it all was with his profession the fruit of his labors the effect of its influence on his habits the picture of repose and domestic happiness it presented made it to her as something more or less than gratification Captain Harville was no reader but he had contrived excellent accommodations and fashioned very pretty shelves for a tolerable collection of well-bound volumes the property of Captain benck his lameness prevented him from taking much exercise but a mind of usefulness and Ingenuity seemed to furnish him with constant employment within he drew he varnished he Carpenter he glued he made toys for the children he fashioned new netting Needles and Pins with improvements and if everything else was done sat down to his large fishing net at one corner of the room Anne thought she left great happiness behind her when they quitted the house and Louisa by whom she found herself walking burst forth into raptures of admiration and light on the character of the Navy their friendliness their brotherliness their openness their uprightness protesting that she was convinced of sailors having more worth and warmth than any other set of men in England that they only knew how to live and they only deserved to be respected in loved they went back to dress and dine and so well had the scheme answered already that nothing was found a Miss though it's being so entirely out of season and the no throughfare of lime and the no expectation of company had brought many apologies from the heads of the Inn Anne found herself by this time growing so much more hardened to being in Captain wentworth's company than she had at first imagined could ever be that the sitting down to the same table with him now and The Interchange of the common civilities attending on it they never got Beyond was become a mere nothing the nights were too dark for the ladies to meet again till the tomorrow but Captain Harville had promised them a visit in the evening and he came bringing his friend also which was more than had been expected it having been agreed that Captain benick had all the appearance of being oppressed by the presence of so many strangers he ventured among them again however though his spirits certainly did not seem fit for the mirth of the party in general while captains Wentworth and Harville led the talk on one side of the room and by recurring to former days supplied anecdotes in abundance to occupy and entertain the others it fell to ansot to be placed rather apart with Captain benck and a very good impulse of her nature obliged her to begin an acquaintance with him he was shy and disposed to abstraction but the engaging mildness of her countenance and gentleness of her manners soon had their effect and Anne was well repaid the first trouble of exertion he was evidently a young man of considerable taste in Reading though principally in poetry and besides the persuasion of having given him at least an evening's Indulgence in the discussion of subjects which his usual companions had probably no concern in she had the hope of being of real use to him in some suggestions as to the duty and benefit of struggling against Affliction which had naturally grown out of their conversation for though shy he did not seem reserved it had rather the appearance of feelings glad to burst their usual restraints and having talked of poetry the richness of the present age and gone through a brief comparison of opinion as to the First Rate poets trying to ascertain whether Marian or Lady of the Lake were to be preferred and how ranked the jar and the Bride of abidos and moreover how the J was to be pronounced he showed himself so intimately acquainted with all the tenderest songs of the one poet and all the impassioned descriptions of hopeless Agony of the other he repeated with such tremulous feeling the various lines which imaged a broken heart or a mind destroyed by wretchedness and looked so entirely as if he meant to be understood that she ventured to hope he did not always read only poetry and to say that she thought it was The Misfortune of poetry to be seldom safely enjoyed by those who enjoyed it completely and that the strong feelings which alone could estimate it truly were the very feelings which ought to taste it but sparingly his look showing him not pained but pleased with this illusion to his situation she was emboldened to go on and feeling in herself the right of seniority of mind she ventured to recommend a larger allowance of Pros in his daily study and on being requested to particularize mention such works of our best moralists such collections of the finest letters such Memoirs of character of worth and suffering as occur to her at the moment as a calculator to Rouse and fortify the Mind by the highest precepts and the strongest examples of moral and religious endurance Captain benck listened attentively and seemed grateful for the interest implied and though with a shake of the head and size which declared his little faith in the efficacy of any books on Grief like his noted down the names of those she recommended and promised to procure and read them when the evening was over and could not but be amused at the idea of her coming to Lime to preach patience and resignation to a young man whom she had never seen before nor could she helped fearing on more serious reflection that like many other great moralists and preachers she had been eloquent on a point in which her own conduct would ill bear examination end of chapter 11 chapter 12 part 1 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 12 part 1 Anne and Henrietta finding themselves the earliest of the party the next morning agreed to stroll down to the Sea before breakfast they went to the Sands to watch the flowing of the tide which a fine southeasterly Breeze was bringing in with all the Grandeur which so flat a Shore admitted they praised the morning gloried in the sea sympathized in the Delight of the fresh feeling Breeze and were silent till Henrietta suddenly began again with oh yes I'm quite convinced that with very few exceptions the Sea Air always does good there can be no doubt of its having been of the greatest service to Dr Shirley after his illness last spring 12 month he declares himself that coming to Lime for a month did him more good than all the medicine he took and that being by the Sea always makes him feel young again now I cannot help thinking it a pity that he does not live entirely by the sea I do think he had better leave uppercross entirely and fix it lime do not you Anne do not you agree with me that it is the best thing he could do both for himself and Mrs Shirley she has cousins here you know and many acquaintance which would make it cheerful for her and I am sure she would be glad to get to a place where she could have medical attendance at hand in case of his having another seizure indeed I think it quite Melancholy to have such excellent people as doct and Mrs Shirley who have been doing good all their lives wearing out their last days in a place like uppercross where accepting our family they seem shut out from all the world I wish his friends would propose it to him I really think they ought and as to procuring a dispensation there could be no difficulty at his time of life and with his character my only doubt is whether anything could persuade him to leave his Parish he is so very strict and scrupulous in his Notions over scrup I must say Do not you think an it is being over scrupulous do not you think it is quite a mistaken point of conscience when a clergyman sacrifices his health for the sake of Duties which may be just as well performed by another person and at lime too only 17 miles off he would be near enough to hear if people thought there was anything to complain of Anne smiled more than once to herself during this speech and entered into the subject as ready to do good by entering into the feelings of a young lady as of a young man though here it was of a lower standard for what could be offered but General acquiescence she said all that was reasonable and proper on the business felt the claims of Dr Shirley to Repose as she ought saw how very desirable it was that he should have some active respectable young man as a resident curate and was even courteous enough to hint at the advantage of such resident curates being married I wish said Henrietta very well pleased with her companion I wish lady Russell lived at uppercross and were intimate with Dr Shirley I have always heard of Lady Russell as a woman of the greatest influence with everybody I always look upon her as able to persuade a person to anything I am afraid of her as I have told you before quite afraid of her because she is so very clever but I respect her amazingly and wish we had such a neighbor at uppercross Anne was amused by henrietta's manner of being grateful and amused also that the course of events and the new interests of henrietta's views should have placed her friend at all in favor with any of the Musgrove family she had only time however for a general answer and a wish that such another woman were at uppercross before all subjects suddenly ceased on seeing Louisa and Captain Wentworth coming towards them they came also for a stroll till breakfast was likely to be ready but Louisa recollecting immediately afterwards that she had something to procure at a shop invited them all to go back with her into the town they were all at her disposal when they came to the steps leading upwards from the beach a gentleman at the same moment preparing to come down politely Drew back and stopped to give them way they ascended and pass him and as they passed Anne's face caught his eye and he looked at her with a degree of earnest admiration which she could not be insensible of she was looking remarkably well her very regular very pretty features having the bloom and freshness of Youth restored by the fine wind which had been blowing on her complexion and by the animation of eye which it had also produced it was it was evident that the gentleman completely a gentleman in manner admired her exceedingly Captain Wentworth looked around at her instantly in a way which showed his noticing of it he gave her a momentary glance a glance of brightness which seemed to say that man is struck with you and even I at this moment see something like Anne Elliot again after attending Louisa through her business and loitering about a little longer they returned to the inn and Anne in passing afterwards quickly from her own chamber to their dining room had nearly run against the very same gentleman as he came out of an adjoining apartment she had before conjectured him to be a stranger like themselves and determined that a well-looking groom who was strolling about near the two in as they came back should be his servant both master and man being in mourning assisted the idea it was now proved that he belonged to the same in as themselves and this second meeting short as it was also proved again by the gentleman's looks that he thought hers very lovely and by the Readiness and propriety of his apologies that he was a man of exceedingly good manners he seemed about 30 and though not handsome had an agreeable person Anne felt that she should like to know who he was they had nearly done breakfast when the sound of a carriage almost the first they had heard since entering lime Drew half the party to the window it was a gentleman's Carriage a caracle but only coming round from the stable yard to the front door somebody must be going away it was driven by a servant in mourning the word caracle made Charles Musgrove jump up that he might compare it with his own the servant in mourning roused an's curiosity and the whole six were collected to look by the time the owner of the caracle was to be seen issuing from the door amidst the bows and civilities of the household and taking his seat to drive off ah cried Captain Wentworth instantly and with half a glance at Anne it is the very man we passed the Miss musgroves agreed to it and having all kindly watched him as far up the hill as they could they returned to the breakfast table the waiter came into the room soon afterwards pray said Captain Wentworth immediately can you tell us the name of the gentleman who has just gone away yes sir a Mr Elliot a gentleman of large Fortune came in last night from sidmouth dare say you heard the carriage sir while you were at dinner and going on now for cricker in his way to Bath and London Elliot many had looked on each other and many had repeated the name before all this had been got through even by the smart rapidity of a waiter bless me cried Mary it must be our cousin it must be our Mr Elliot it must indeed Charles and must not it in morning you see just as our Mr Elliot must be how very extraordinary in the very same Inn with us an must not it be our Mr Elliot my father's next Heir pray sir turning to the waiter did not you hear did not his servant say whether he belonged to the Kellen family no ma'am he did not mention no particular family but said said his master was a very rich gentleman and would be a baron night someday there you see cried Mary in an ecstasy just as I said heir to Sir Walter Elliot I was sure that would come out if it was so depend upon it that is a circumstance which his servants take care to publish wherever he goes but Anne only conceive how extraordinary I wish I had looked at him more I wish we had been aware in time who it was that he might have been introduced to us what a Pity we should not have been introduced to each other do you think he had the Elliot countenance I hardly looked at him I was looking at the horses but I think he had something of the Elliot countenance I wonder the arms did not strike me oh the great coat was hanging over the panel and hid the arms so it did otherwise I am sure I should have observed them and the Livery too if the servant had not been in mourning one should have known him by the Livery putting all these very extraordinary circumstances together said Captain Wentworth we must consider it to be the arrangement of Providence that you should not be introduced to your cousin when she could command Mary's attention Anne quietly tried to convince her that their father and Mr Elliot had not for many years been on such terms as to make the power of attempting an introduction at all desirable at the same time however it was a secret gratification to herself to have seen her cousin and to know that the future owner of Kellen was undoubtedly a gentleman and had an air of Good Sense she would not upon any account mention her having met with him the second time luckily Mary did not attend to their having passed close by him in their earlier War but she would have felt quite ill used by an's having actually run against him in the passage and received his very polite excuses while she had never been near him at all no that cousinly little interview must remain a perfect secret of course said Mary you will mention our seeing Mr Elliot the next time you write to Bath I think my father certainly ought to hear of it do mention all about him Anne avoided a direct reply but it was just the circumstance which she considered as not merely unnecessary to be communicated but as what ought to be suppressed the offense which had been given her father many years back she knew Elizabeth's particular share in it she suspected and that Mr Elliott's idea always produced irritation in both was beyond a doubt Mary never wrote to Bath herself all the toil of keeping up a slow and unsatisfactory correspondence with Elizabeth fell on Anne breakfast had not been long over when they were joined by Captain and Mrs Harel and Captain benck with whom they had appointed to take their last walk about lime they ought to be setting off for Upp across by one and in the meanwhile were to be all together and out of doors as long as they could Anne found Captain Bennett getting near her as soon as they were all fairly in the street their conversation the preceding evening did not disincline him to seek her again and they walked together some time talking as before of Mr Scott and Lord Byron and still as unable as before and as unable as any other other two readers to think exactly alike of the Merit of either till something occasioned an almost General change amongst their party and instead of Captain benick she had Captain harl by her side Miss Elliot said he speaking rather low you have done a good deed in making that poor fellow talk so much I wish he could have such company oftener it is bad for him I know to be shut up as he is but what can we do we cannot part no said Anne that I can e easily believed to be impossible but in time perhaps we know what time does in every case of Affliction and you must remember Captain Harel that your friend May yet be called a young mourner only last summer I understand I true enough with a deep sigh only June and not known to him perhaps so soon not till the first week of August when he came home from the cape just made into the grappler I was at Plymouth dreading to hear of him he sent in letters but the grappler was under orders for Portsmouth there the news must follow him but who was to tell it not I I would as soon have been run up to the yard arm nobody could do it but that good fellow pointing to Captain Wentworth the lonia had come into Plymouth the week before no danger of her being sent to Sea again he stood his chance for the rest wrote up for leave of absence but without waiting the return traveled night and day till he got to Portsmouth rode off to the grapper that instant and never left the poor fellow for a week that's what he did and nobody else could have saved poor James you may think Miss Elliott whether he is dear to us Anne did think on the question with perfect decision and said as much in reply as her own feeling could accomplish or as his seemed able to bear for he was too much affected to renew the subject and when he spoke again it was of something totally different Mrs Harv's giving it as her opinion that her husband would have quite enough walking by the time they reached home determined the direction of all the party in what was to be their last walk they would accompany them to their door and then return and set off themselves by all their calculations there was just time for this but as they drew near the cob there was such a general wish to walk along it once more all were so inclined and Louisa soon grew so determined that the difference of a quarter of an hour it was found would be no difference at all so with all the kind leaking and all the kind interchange of invitations and Promises which may be imagined they departed from Captain and Mrs harle at their own door and still accompanied by Captain benck who seemed to cling to them to the last proceeded to make the proper adurs to the cob Anne found captain benck again Drawing Near her Lord Byron's dark blue Seas could not fail of being brought forward by their present View and she gladly gave him all her attention as long as attention was possible it was soon drawn perforce another way way there was too much wind to make the high part of the new cob Pleasant for the ladies and they agreed to get down the steps to the lower and all were contented to pass quietly and carefully down the Steep flight excepting Louisa she must be jumped down them by Captain Wentworth in all their walks he had had to jump her from the Styles the sensation was delightful to her the hardness of the pavement for her feet made him less willing upon the present occasion he did it however she was safely down and instantly to show her enjoyment ran up the stairs to be jumped down again he advised her against it thought the jar too great but no he reasoned and talked in vain she smiled and said I am determined I will he put out his hands she was too precipitate by half a second she fell on the pavement of the lower cob and was taken up lifeless end of chapter 12 part 1 chapter 12 part two of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 12 part two there was no wound no blood no visible bruise but her eyes were closed she breathed not her face was like death the horror of the moment to all who stood around Captain Wentworth who had caught her up knelt with her in his arms looked looking on her with a face as palid as her own in an Agony of Silence she is dead she is dead screamed Mary catching hold of her husband and contributing with his own horror to make him immovable and in another moment Henrietta sinking under the conviction lost her senses too and would have fallen on the steps but for captain benick and Anne who caught and supported her between them is there no one to help me were the first words which burst from Captain Wentworth in a tone of Despair and as if all his own strength were were gone go to him go to him cried Anne For Heaven's Sake go to him I can support her myself leave me and go to him rub her hands rub her temples here are salts take them take them Captain benck obeyed and Charles at the same moment disengaging himself from his wife they were both with him and Louisa was raised up and supported more firmly between them and everything was done that Anne had prompted but in vain while Captain Wentworth staggering against the wall for his support exclaimed in the bitterest agony oh God her father and mother a surgeon said Anne he caught the word it seemed to Rouse him at once and saying only true true a surgeon this instant was darting away when Anne eagerly suggested Captain pnck would it not be better for Captain pck he knows where a surgeon is to be found everyone capable of thinking felt the advantage of the idea and in a moment it was all done in Rapid moments Captain benck had resigned the poor corpse-like figure entirely to the brother's care and was off for the town with the utmost rapid it as to The Wretched party left behind it could scarcely be said which of the three who were completely rational was suffering most Captain Wentworth Anne or Charles who really a very affectionate brother hung over Louisa with sobs of grief and could only turn his eyes from one sister to see the other in a state as insensible or to witness the hysterical agitations of his wife calling on him for help which he could not give Anne attending with all the strength and Zeal and thought which instinct apped to Henrietta still tried at intervals to suggest Comfort to the others tried to quiet Mary to animate Charles to assuage the feelings of Captain Wentworth both seemed to look to her for directions Anne Anne cried Charles what is to be done next what in Heaven's name is to be done next Captain wentworth's eyes were also turned towards her had she not better be carried to the Inn yes I'm sure carry her gently to the in yes yes to the Inn repeated Captain Wentworth comparatively collected and eager to be doing something I will carry her myself Musgrove take care of the others by this time the report of the accident had spread among the workmen and boatmen about the cob and many were collected near them to be useful if wanted at any rate to enjoy the sight of a dead young lady nay two dead young ladies for it proved twice as fine as the first report to some of the best looking of these good people Henrietta was consigned for though partially revived she was quite helpless and in this manner Anne walking by her side and Charles attending to his wife they set forward treading back with feelings unutterable the ground which So lately so very lately and so light of heart they had passed along they were not off the cob before the harles met them Captain benick had been seen flying by their house with a countenance which showed something to be wrong and they had set off immediately informed and directed as they passed towards the spot shocked as Captain Harel was he brought senses and nerves that could be instantly useful and the look between him and his wife decided what was to be done she must be taken to their house all must go to their house and await the surgeon's arrival there they would not listen to Scruples he was obeyed they were all beneath his roof and while Louisa under Mrs Harv's Direction was conveyed upstairs and given possession of her own bed assistance cordials restoratives were supplied by her husband to all who needed them Louisa had once opened her eyes but soon closed them again without apparent Consciousness this this had been proof of life however of service to her sister and Henrietta though perfectly incapable of being in the same room with Louisa was kept by the agitation of Hope and fear from a return of her own insensibility Mary too was growing calmer the surgeon was with them almost before it had seemed possible they were sick with horror while he examined but he was not hopeless the head had received a severe contusion but he had seen greater injuries recovered from he was by no means hopeless he spoke spoke cheerfully that he did not regard it as a desperate case that he did not say a few hours must end it was at first felt beyond the hope of most and the Ecstasy of such a reprieve the rejoicing deep and Silent after a few fervent ejaculations of gratitude to Heaven had been offered may be conceived the tone the look with which thank God was uttered by Captain Wentworth and was sure could never be forgotten by her nor the sight of him afterwards as he sat near a table leaning over it with folded arms and face concealed as if overpowered by the various feelings of his soul and trying by prayer and reflection to calm them Louisa's limbs had escaped there was no injury but to the Head it now became necessary for the party to consider what was best to be done as to their General situation they were now able to speak to each other and consult that Louisa must remain where she was however distressing to her friends to be involving the harvil in such trouble did not not admit a doubt her removal was impossible the haral silenced all Scruples and as much as they could all gratitude they had looked forward and arranged everything before the others began to reflect Captain benck must give up his room to them and get another bed elsewhere and the H was settled they were only concerned that the house could accommodate no more and yet Perhaps by putting the children away in the maid's room or swinging a cot somewhere they could hardly bear to think of not finding room for two or three besides supposing they might wish to stay though with regard to any attendance on Miss Musgrove there need not be the least uneasiness in leaving her to Mrs Harv's care entirely Mrs Harville was a very experienced nurse and her Nursery maid who had lived with her long and gone about with her everywhere was just such another between these two she could want no possible attendance by day or night and all this was said with a truth and sincerity of feeling irresistible Charles Henrietta and Captain Wentworth were the three in consultation and for a little while it was only an interchange of perplexity and Terror Upp across the necessity of someone's going to uppercross the news to be conveyed how it could be broken to Mr and Mrs Musgrove the lateness of the morning an hour already gone since they ought to have been off the impossibility of being in tolerable time at first they were capable of nothing more to the purpose than such exclamations but after a while Captain Wentworth exerting himself said we must be decided and without the loss of another minute every minute is valuable someone must resolve on being off for up across instantly Musgrove either you or I must go Charles agreed but declared his resolution of not going away he would be as little incumbrance as possible to Captain and Mrs harle but as to leaving his sister in such a state he neither ought nor would so far it was decided and henrieta at first declared the same she however was soon persuaded to think differently the useful of her staying she who had not been able to remain in Louisa's room or to look at her without sufferings which made her worse than helpless she was forced to acknowledge that she could do no good yet was still unwilling to be away till touched by the thought of her father and mother she gave it up she consented she was anxious to be at home the plan had reached this point when Anne coming quietly down from Louisa's room could not but hear what followed for the Parlor door was open then it is settled mgro cried captain Wentworth that you stay and that I take your sister home but as to the rest as to the others if one stays to assist Mrs harle I think it need be only one Mrs Charles Musgrove will of course wish to get back to her children but if Anne will stay no one so proper so capable as Anne she paused a moment to recover from the emotion of hearing herself so spoken of the other two warmly agreed with what he said and she then appeared you will stay I am sure you will stay a nurser cried he turning to her her in speaking with a glow and yet a gentleness which seemed almost restoring the past she colored deeply and he recollected himself and moved away she expressed herself most willing ready happy to remain it was what she had been thinking of and wishing to be allowed to do a bed on the floor in Louisa's room would be sufficient for her if Mrs harle would but think so one thing more and all seemed arranged though it was rather desirable that Mr and Mrs Musgrove should be previously alarmed by some share of delay yet the time required by the uppercross horses to take them back would be a dreadful extension of suspense and Captain Wentworth proposed and Charles Musgrove agreed that it would be much better for him to take a Shaz from the inn and leave Mr musgrove's carriage and horses to be sent home the next morning early when there would be the further advantage of sending an account of Louisa's night Captain Wentworth now hurried off to get everything ready on his part and to be soon followed by the two ladies when the plan was made known to Mary however there was an end of all peace in it she was so wretched and so vehement complained so much of Injustice in being expected to go away instead of Anne an who was nothing to Louisa while she was her sister and had the best right to stay in henrietta's Stead why was not she to be as useful as Anne and to go home without Charles too without her husband no it was too unkind and in short she said more than her husband could long withstand and as none of the others could oppose when he gave way there was no help for it the change of Mary for Anne was inevitable Anne had never submitted more reluctantly to the jealous and Ill judging claims of Mary but so it must be and they set off for the town Charles taking care of his sister and Captain benick attending to her she gave a moment's recollection as they hurried along to the little circumstances which the same spots had witnessed earlier in the morning there she had listened to henrietta's schemes for Dr Shirley's leaving uppercross further on she had first seen Mr Elliot a moment moment seemed all that could now be given to anyone but Louisa or those who were wrapped up in her welfare Captain benck was most considerately attentive to her and as United as they all seemed by the distress of the day she felt an increasing degree of Goodwill towards him and a pleasure even in thinking that it might perhaps be the occasion of continuing their acquaintance Captain Wentworth was on the watch for them and a shay in four in Waiting stationed for their convenience in the lowest part of the street but his evident surprise and vexation at the substitution of one sister for the other the change in his countenance the astonishment the Expressions begun and suppressed with which Charles was listen to made but a mortifying reception of Anne or must at least convince her that she was valued only as she could be useful to Louisa she endeavored to be composed and to be just without emulating the feelings of an Emma towards her Henry she would have attended on Louisa with a Zeal above the common claims of regard for his sake and she hoped he would not long be so so unjust as to suppose she would shrink unnecessarily from the office of a friend in the meanwhile she was in The Carriage he had handed them both in and placed himself between them and in this manner under these circumstances full of astonishment and emotion to Anne she quitted lime how long the stage would pass how it was to affect Their Manners what was to be their sort of intercourse she could not foresee it was all quite natural however he was devoted to Henrietta always turning towards her and when he spoke at all always with the view of supporting her hopes and raising her spirits in general his voice and manner were studiously calm to spare Henrietta from agitation seemed the governing principle once only when she had been grieving over the last ill-judged ill-fated walk to the cob bitterly lamenting that it had ever been thought of he burst forth as if wholly overcome don't talk of it don't talk of it he cried oh God that I I had not given way to her at the Fatal moment had I done as I ought but so eager and so Resolute dear sweet Louisa Anne wondered whether it ever occurred to him now to question the justness of his own previous opinion as to the universal Felicity and advantage of firmness of character and whether it might not strike him that like all other qualities of the mind it should have his proportions and limits she thought it could scarcely Escape him to feel that a persuadable temper might sometimes be as much in favor of Happiness as a very Resolute character they got on Fast Anne was astonished to recognize the same Hills and the same object so soon their actual speed heightened by some dread of the conclusion made the road appear but half as long as on the day before it was growing quite dusk however before they were in the neighborhood of uppercross and there had been total silence among them for some time Henrietta leaning back in the corner with a Shaw over her face giving the hope of her having having cried herself to sleep when as they were going up their last Hill Anne found herself all at once addressed by Captain Wentworth in a low cautious voice he said I have been considering what we had best do she must not appear at first she could not stand it I have been thinking whether you had not better remain in the carriage with her while I go in and break it to Mr and Mrs Musgrove do you think this is a good plan she did he was satisfied and said no more but the remembrance of the appeal remained a pleasure to her as a proof of friendship and of deference for her judgment a great pleasure and when it became a sort of parting proof its value did not lessen when the distressing communication at upper cross was over and he had seen the father and mother quite as composed as could be hoped and the daughter all the better for being with them he announced his intention of returning in the same Carriage to lime and when the horses were baited he was off end of chapter 12 part two chapter 13 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 13 the remainder of Anne's time at uppercross comprehending only 2 days was spent entirely at the mansion house and she had the satisfaction of knowing herself extremely useful there both as an immediate companion and as assisting in all those arrangements for the future which in Mr and Mrs musgrove's distressed state of spirits would have been difficulties they had an early account from lime the next morning Louisa was much the same no symptoms worse than before had appeared Charles came a few hours afterwards to bring a later and more particular account he was tolerably cheerful a speedy cure must not be hoped but everything was going on as well as the nature of the case admitted in speaking of the Harvel he seemed unable to satisfy his own sense of their kindness especially of Mrs Harv's exertions as a nurse she really left nothing for Mary to do he and Mary had been persuaded to go early to their Inn last night Mary had been hysterical again this morning when he came away she was going to walk out with Captain benick which he hoped would do her good he almost wish she had been prevailed on to come home the day before but the truth was that Mrs Harville left nothing for anybody to do Charles was to return to Lime the same afternoon and his father had at first half a mind to go with him but the ladies could not consent it would be going only to multiply trouble to the others and increase his own distress and a much better scheme followed and was acted Upon A sha was sent for from cricker and Charles conveyed back a far more useful person in the old Nursery Maid of the family one who having brought up all the children and seen the very last the lingering and long petted Master Harry sent to school after his brothers was now living in her deserted Nursery to mend stockings and dress all the blaines and bruises as she could get near her and who consequently was only too happy in being allowed to go and help nurse Dear Miss Louisa vague wishes of getting Sarah via had occurred before to Mrs Musgrove and Henrietta but without Anne it would hardly have been resolved on and found practicable so soon they were indebted the next day to Charles hater for all the minute knowledge of Louisa which it was so essential to obtain every 24 hours he made it his business to go to lime and his account was still encouraging the intervals of sense and Consciousness were believed to be stronger every report agreed in Captain wentworth's appearing fixed in Lime Anne was to leave them on the tomorrow an event which they all dreaded what should they do without her they were wretched comforters for one another and so much was said in this way that Anne thought she could not do better than impart among them the general inclination to which she was privy and persuaded them all to go to Lime at once she had little difficulty it was soon determined that they would go go tomorrow fix themselves at the Inn or get into lodgings as it suited and there remain till dear Louisa could be moved they must be taking off some trouble from the good people she was with they might at least relieve Mrs Harel from the care of her own children and in short they were so happy in the decision that Anne was delighted with what she had done and felt that she could not spend her last morning at uppercross better than in assisting their preparations and sending them off at an early hour though her being left to the solitary range of the house was the consequence she was the last excepting the little boys at the cottage she was the very last the only remaining one of all that had filled and animated both houses of all that had given up across its cheerful character a few days had made a change indeed if Louisa recovered it would all be well again more than former happiness would be restored there could not be a doubt to her mind there was none of what would follow her recovery a few months hence and the room now so deserted occupied but by her silent pensive self might be filled again with all that was happy and gay all that was glowing and bright in prosperous love all that was most unlike Anne Elliot an hour's complete Leisure for such Reflections as these on a dark November day a small thick rain almost blotting out the very few objects ever to be discerned from the windows was enough to make the sound of Lady Russell's Carriage exceedingly welcome and yet though desirous to be gone she could not quit the mansion house or look an adure to the Cott with its black dripping and comfortless Veranda or even notice through the Misty glasses the last humble tenaments of the village without a saddened heart scenes had passed in uppercross which made it precious it stood the record of many sensations of pain once severe but now softened and of some instances of relenting feeling some breathings of friendship and Reconciliation which could never be looked for again and which could never cease to be dear she left it all behind her all but the recollection that that such things had been Anne had never entered Kellen since her quitting lady Russell's house in September it had not been necessary and the few occasions of its being possible for her to go to the hall she had contrived to evade and escape from her first return was to resume her place in the modern and elegant Apartments of the lodge and to Gladden the eyes of its mistress there was some anxiety mixed with Lady Russell's joy in meeting her she knew who had been frequenting uppercross but happily either Anne was improved in plumpness and looks or lady Russell fancied her so and Anne in receiving her compliments on the occasion had the amusement of connecting them with the silent admiration of her cousin and of hoping that she was to be blessed with a second spring of Youth and Beauty when they came to converse she was soon sensible of some mental change the subjects of which her heart had been full on leaving Kellen and which she had felt slighted and been compelled to smother among the musgroves were now become but of secondary interest she had lately lost sight even of her father and sister and bath their concerns had been sunk under those of uppercross and when lady Russell reverted to their former hopes and fears and spoke her satisfaction in the house in Camden Place which had been taken and her regret that Mrs clay should still be with them an would have been ashamed to have it known how much more she was thinking of lime and Louisa Musgrove and all her acquaintance there how much more interesting to her was the home and the friendship of the Harvel and Captain benck than her own father's house in Camden place or her own sister intimacy with Mrs clay she was actually forced to exert herself to meet lady Russell with anything like the appearance of equal solicitude on topics which had by Nature the first claim on her there was a little awkwardness at first in their discourse on another subject they must speak of the accident at lime lady Russell had not been arrived 5 minutes the day before when a full account of the hole had burst on her but still it must be talked of she must make inquiries she must regret the imprudence lament the result and captain wentworth's name must be mentioned by both Anne was conscious of not doing it so well as lady Russell she could not speak the name and looked straight forward to Lady Russell's eye till she had adopted the expedient of telling her briefly what she thought of the attachment between him and Louisa when this was told his name distressed her no longer lady Russell had only to listen composedly and wish them happy but internally her heart reveled in angry pleasure in pleased contempt that the man who at 23 had seemed to understand somewhat of the value of an Anne Elliot should 8 years afterwards be Charmed by a Louisa Musgrove the first three or 4 days passed most quietly with no circumstance to mark them excepting the receipt of a note or two from lime which found their way to Anne she could not tell how and brought a rather improving account of Louisa at the end of that period lady Russell's politeness could Repose no longer and the fainter self-threatening of the past became in a decided tone I must call on Mrs Croft I really must call upon her soon and have you courage to go with me and pay a visit in that house it will be some trial to us both Anne did not shrink from it on the contrary she truly felt as she said in observing I think you are very likely to suffer the most of the two your feelings are less reconciled to the change than mine by remaining in the neighborhood I am become inured to it she could have said more on the subject for she had in fact so high an opinion of the Crofts and considered her father so very fortunate in his tenants felt the parish to be so sure of a good example and the poor of the best attention and relief that however sorry and ashamed for the necessity of the removal she could not but in conscience feel that they were gone who deserved not to stay and that Kellen Hall had passed into better hands than its owners these convictions must unquestionably have their own pain and severe was its kind but they precluded that pain which lady Russell would suffer in entering the house again and returning through the well-known apartments in such moments Anne had had no power of saying to herself these rooms ought to belong only to us oh how fallen in their destination how unworthily occupied an ancient family to be so driven away strangers filling their place no except when she thought of her mother and remembered where she had been used to sit and preside she had no sigh of that description to heave Mrs Croft always met her with a kindness which gave her the pleasure of fancying herself a favorite and on the present occasion receiving her in that house there was particular attention the sad accident at lime was soon the prevailing topic and on comparing their latest accounts of the invalid it appeared that each lady dated her intelligence from the same hour of yester morning that Captain Wentworth had been in Kellen yesterday the first time since the accident had brought an the last note which she had not been able to trace the exact steps of had stayed a few hours and then returned again to Lime without any present intention of quitting it anymore he had inquired after her she found particularly had had expressed his hope of Miss Elliot's not being the worst for her exertions and had spoken of those exertions as great this was handsome and gave her more pleasure than almost anything else could have done as to the sad catastrophe itself it could be canvased only in one Style by a couple of steady sensible women whose judgments had to work on ascertained events and it was perfectly decided that it had been the consequence of much thoughtlessness and much imprudence that its effects were most alarming and that it was frightful to think how long Miss Musgrove recovery might yet be doubtful and how liable she would still remain to suffer from the concussion Hereafter the Admiral wound It Up summarily by exclaiming ah a very bad business indeed a new sort of way this for a young fellow to be making love by breaking his mistress's head is it not Mis Elliot this is breaking a head and giving a plaster truly Admiral croft's manners were not quite of the tone to suit lady Russell but they delighted Anne his goodness of heart and simplicity of character were irresistible now this must be be very bad for you said he suddenly rousing from a little Ry to be coming and finding us here I had not recollected it before I declare but it must be very bad but now do not stand upon ceremony get up and go over all the rooms in the house if you like it another time sir I thank you not now well whenever it suits you you can slip him from the Shrubbery at any time and there you will find we keep our umbrellas hanging up by that door at good place is it not but checking himself you will not think it a good place for yours were always kept in the butler's room I so it always is I believe one man's ways may be as good as anothers but we all like our own best and so you must judge for yourself whether it would be better for you to go about the house or not Anne finding she might decline did so very gratefully we have made very few changes either continued the Admiral after thinking a moment very few we told you about the laundry door at uppercross that has been a very great Improvement the Wonder was how any family upon Earth could bear with the inconvenience of its opening as it did so long you will tell Sir Walter what we have done and that Mr Shephard thinks it the greatest Improvement the house ever had indeed I must do ourselves the Justice to say that the few alterations we have made have been all very much for the better my wife should have the credit of them however I have done very little besides sending away some of the large looking glasses from my dressing room which was your father's a very good man and very much the gentleman I am sure but I should think Miss Elliot looking with serious reflection I should think he must be rather a dressy man for his time of life such a number of looking glasses oh Lord there was no getting away from oneself so I got Sophie to lend me a hand and we soon shifted their quarters and now I am quite snug with my little shaving glass in one corner and another great thing that I never go near Anne amused in spite of herself was rather distressed for an answer and the Admiral fearing he might not have been civil enough took up the subject again to say the next time you write to your good father Miss Elliott pray give him my compliments and Mrs CTS and say that we are settled here quite to our liking and have no fault at all to find with the place the breakfast room chimney smokes a little I grant you but it is only when the wind is due north and blows hard which may not happen three times a winter and take it all together now that we have been into most of the houses hereabouts and can judge there is not one that we like better than this pray say so with my compliments he will be glad to hear it lady Russell and Mrs Croft were very well pleased with each other but the acquaintance which this visit began was fated not to proceed far at present for when it was returned the Crofts announced themselves to be going away for a few weeks to visit their connections in the north of the country and probably might not be at home again before lady Russell would be removing to bath so ended all danger to Anne of meeting Captain Wentworth at Kellen hall or of seeing him in company with her friend everything was safe enough and she smiled over the many anxious feelings she had wasted on the subject end of chapter 13 chapter 14 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 14 though Charles and Mary had remained at lme much longer after Mr and Mrs musgrove's going than Anne conceived they could have been at all wanted they were yet the first of the family to be at home again and as soon as possible after their return to uppercross they drove over to the lodge they had left Louisa beginning to sit up but her head though clear was exceedingly weak and her nerves susceptible to the highest extreme of tenderness and though she might be pronounced to be altogether doing very well it was still impossible to say when she might be able to Bear the removal home and her father and mother who must return in time to receive their younger children for the Christmas holidays had hardly a hope of being allowed to bring her with them they had all been in lodgings together Mrs Musgrove had got Mrs Harv's children away as much as she could every possible Supply from uppercross had been furnished to lighten the inconvenience to the Harel while the harvers had been wanting them to come to dinner every day and in short it seemed to have been only a struggle on each side as to which should be most disinterested and hospitable Mary had had her evils but upon the whole as was evident by her staying so long she had found more to enjoy than to suffer Charles hated her riin at lime oftener than suited her and when they had dined with the harvil there had been only a maid servant to wait and at first Mrs Harville had always given Mrs Musgrove precedence but then she had received so very handsome an apology from her on finding out whose daughter she was and there had been so much going on every day there had been so many walks between their lodgings and the havels and she had got books from the library and changed them so often that the balance had certainly been much in favor of lime she had been taken to shouth too and she had bathed and she had gone to church and there were a great great many more people to look at in the church at lime than at uppercross and all this joined to the sense of being so very useful had made really an agreeable fortnite Anne inquired after Captain benck Mary's face was clouded directly Charles laughed oh Captain benck is very well I believe but he is a very odd young man I do not know what he would be at we asked him to come home with us for a day or two Charles undertook to give him some shooting and he seemed quite delighted and for my part I thought it was all settled when behold on Tuesday night he made a very awkward sort of excuse he never shot and he had been quite misunderstood and he had promised this and he had promised that and the end of it was I found that he did not mean to come I suppose he was afraid of finding it dull but upon my word I should have thought we were Lively enough at the cottage for such a heartbroken man as Captain benck Charles laughed again and said now Mary you know very well how it really was it was all you're doing turning to Anne he fancied that if he weren't with us he should find you close by he fancied everybody to be living an uppercross and when he discovered that lady Russell lived three miles off his heart failed him and he had not courage to come that is the fact upon my honor Mary knows it is but Mary did not give into it very graciously whether from not considering Captain benick entitled by birth and situation to be in love with an Elliot or from not wanting to believe Anne a greater attraction to uppercross than herself must be left to be guessed Anne's Goodwill however was not to be lessened by what she heard she boldly acknowledged herself flattered and continued her inquiries oh he talks of you cried Charles in such terms Mary interrupted him I declare Charles I never heard him mention Anne twice all the time I was there I declare Anne he never talks of you at all no admitted Charles I do not know that he ever does in a general way but however it is a very clear thing that he admires you exceedingly his head is full of some books that he is reading upon your recommendation and he wants to talk to you about them he has found out something or other in one of them which he thinks though I cannot pretend to remember it but it was something very fine I overheard him telling henrieta all about it and then Miss Elliot was spoken of in the highest terms now Mary I declare it was so I heard it myself and you were in the other room Elegance sweetness Beauty oh there was no end of Miss Elliot's charms and I am sure cried Mary warmly it was a very little to his credit if he did Miss Harville only died last June such a heart is very little worth having is it lady Russell I am sure you will agree with me I must see Captain benck before I decide said lady Russell smiling and that you are very likely to do very soon I can tell you ma'am said Charles though he had not nerves for coming away with us and setting off again afterwards to pay a formal visit here he will make his way over to Kellen One Day by himself you may depend on it I told him the distance and the road and I told him of the churches being so very well worth seeing for as he has a taste for those sort of things I thought that would be a good excuse and he listened with all his understanding and soul and I am sure from his manner that you will have him calling here soon so I give you notice lady Russell any acquaintance of ANS will always be welcome to me was Lady Russell's kind answer oh as to being Anne's acquaintance said Mary I think he is rather my acquaintance for I have been seeing him every day this last Fortnight well as your joint acquaintance then I shall be very happy to see Captain benck you will not find anything very agreeable in him I assure you m'am he is one of the D young men that ever lived he has walked with me sometimes from one end of the Sands to the other without saying a word he is not at all a well-bred young man I am sure you will not like him there we differ Mary said Anne I think lady Russell would like him I think she would be so much pleased with his mind that she would very soon see no deficiency in his manner so do I Anne said Charles I am sure lady Russell would like him he is just lady Russell's sort give him a book and he will read all day long yes that he will exclaimed Mary tauntingly he will sit pouring over his book and not know when a person speaks to him or when one drops one's scissors or anything that happens do you think lady Russell would like that lady Russell could not help laughing upon my word she said I should not have supposed that my opinion of anyone could have admitted of such difference of conjecture steady and matter of fact as I may call myself I have really a curiosity to see the person who can give occasion to such directly opposite Notions I wish he may be induced to call here and when he does Mary you may depend upon hearing my opinion but I am determined not to judge him beforehand you will not like him I will answer for it lady Russell began talking of something else Mary spoke with animation of their meeting with or rather missing Mr Elliot so extraordinarily he is a man said lady Russell whom I have no wish to see his declining to be on cordial terms with the head of his family has left a very strong impression in his disfavor with me this decision checked Mary's eagerness and stopped her short in the midst of the Elliot countenance with regard to Captain Wentworth though Anne hazarded no inquiries there was voluntary communication sufficient his spirits had been greatly recovering lately as might be expected as louiser improved he had improved and he was now quite a different creature from what he had been the first week he had not seen Louisa and was so extremely fearful of any ill consequence to her from an interview that he did not press for it at all and on the contrary seemed to have a plan of going away for a week or 10 days till her head was Stronger he had talked of going down to Plymouth for a week and wanted to persuade Captain benck to go with him but as Charles maintained to the last Captain benck seemed much more disposed to ride over to kelleng there can be no doubt that lady Russell and Anne were both occasionally thinking of Captain benck from this time lady Russell could not hear the doorbell without feeling that it might be his Herald nor could Anne return from any stroll of solitary Indulgence in her father's grounds or any visit of Charity in in the village without wondering whether she might see him or hear of him Captain Bennett came not however he was either less disposed for it than Charles had imagined or he was too shy and after giving him a week's Indulgence lady Russell determined him to be Unworthy of the interest which he had been beginning to excite the musgroves came back to receive their happy boys and girls from school bringing with them Mrs Harv's little children to improve the noise of uppercross and lessen that of lime Henrietta remained with Lisa but all the rest of the family were again in their usual quarters lady Russell and Anne paid their compliments to them at once when Anne could not but feel that uppercross was already quite alive again though neither Henrietta nor Louisa nor Charles hater nor Captain Wentworth were there the room presented as strong a contrast as could be wished to the last state she had seen it in immediately surrounding Mrs Musgrove with a little Harel whom she was sedulously guarding from the tyranny of the two children from the cottage expressly arrived to amuse them on one side was a table occupied by some chattering girls cutting up silk and gold paper and on the other were trestles and Trays bending under the weight of brwn and cold pies where riotous boys were holding High Revel the whole completed by a roaring Christmas fire which seemed determined to be heard in spite of all the noise of the others Charles and Mary also came in of course during their visit and Mr Musgrove made a point of paying his respects to Lady Russell and sat down close to her for 10 minutes talking with with a very raised voice but from the clamor of the children on his knees generally in vain it was a fine family piece Anne judging from her own temperament would have deemed such a domestic hurricane a bad restorative of the nerves which Louisa's illness must have so greatly shaken but Mrs Musgrove who got Anne near her on purpose to thank her most cordially again and again for all her attentions to them concluded a short recapitulation of what she had suffered herself by observing with a happy glance around the room that after all she had gone through nothing was so likely to do her good as a little quiet cheerfulness at home Louisa was now recovering a pace her mother could even think of her being able to join their party at home before her brothers and sisters went to school again the haril had promised to come with her and stay at uppercross whenever she returned Captain Wentworth was gone for the present to see his brother in Shropshire I hope I shall remember in future said lady Russell as soon as they were seated in the carriage not to call at uppercross in the Christmas holidays everybody has their taste in noises as well as in other matters and sounds are quite innoxious or most distressing by their sort rather than their quantity when lady Russell not long afterwards was entering bath on a wet afternoon and driving through the long course of streets from the old bridge to Camden Place amidst the dash of other carriages the heavy Rumble of carts and DRS the balling of newspaper men muffin men and Milkmen and the ceaseless clink of patterns she made no complaint no these were noises which belonged to the winter Pleasures her spirits Rose under their influence and like Mrs Musgrove she was feeling though not saying that after being long in the country nothing could be so good for her as a little quiet cheerfulness an did not share these feelings she persisted in a very determined though very silent disinclination for bath caught the first dim view of the extensive buildings smoking in the rain without any wish of seeing them better felt their progress through the street to be however disagreeable yet too rapid for who would be glad to see her when she arrived and looked back with fond regret to the bustles of uppercross and the seclusion of Kellen Elizabeth's last letter had communicated a piece of news of some interest Mr Elliot was in bath he had called in Camp in place had called a second time a third had been pointedly attentive if Elizabeth and her father did not deceive themselves had been taking much pains to seek the acquaintance and proclaim the value of the connection as he had formerly taken pains to show neglect this was very wonderful if it were true and Lady Russell was in a state of very agreable curiosity and perplexity about Mr Elliot already recanting the sentiment she had So lately expressed to Mary of his being a man whom she had no wish to see she had a great wish to see him if he really sought to reconcile himself like a dutiful Branch he must be forgiven for having dismembered himself from the paternal tree Anne was not animated to an equal pitch by the circumstance but she felt that she would rather see Mr Elliott again than not which was more than she could say for any other person's in bath she was put down in Camden Place and Lady Russell then drove to her own lodgings in River Street end of chapter 14 chapter 15 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 15 Sir Walter had taken a very good house in Camden Place a lofty dignified situation such as becomes a man of consequence and both he and Elizabeth were settled there much to their satisfaction Anne entered it with a sinking heart anticipating an imprisonment of many months and anxiously saying to herself oh when shall I Leave You Again a degree of unexpected cordiality however in the welcome she received did her good her father and sister were glad to see her for the sake of showing her the house and furniture and met her with kindness her making a fourth when they sat down to dinner was noticed as an advantage Mrs clay was very pleasant and very smiling but her courtesies and smiles were more a matter of course Anne had always felt that she would pretend what was proper on her arrival but the complacence of the others was unlooked for they were evidently in excellent spirits and she was soon to listen to the causes they had no inclination to listen to her after laying out for some compliments of being deeply regretted in their old neighborhood which Anne could not pay they had only a few faint inquiries to make before the talk must be all their own up across excited no interest kelleng very little it was all bath they had the pleasure of assuring her that bath more than answered their expectations in every respect their house was undoubtedly the best in Camden Place their drawing rooms had many decided advantages over all the others which they had either seen or heard of and the superiority was not less in the style of the fitting up or the taste of of the furniture their acquaintance was exceedingly sought after everybody was wanting to visit them they had drawn back from many introductions and still were perpetually having cards left by people of whom they knew nothing here were funds of enjoyment could Anne wonder that her father and sister were happy she might not Wonder but she must sigh that her father should feel no degradation in his change should see nothing to regret in the duties and dignity of the resident landholder should find so much to be in vain of in the littes of a town and she must sigh and smile and wondered too as Elizabeth threw open the folding doors and walked with exaltation from one drawing room to the other boasting of their space at the possibility of that woman who had been Mistress of Kellen Hall finding extent to be proud of between two walls perhaps 30 ft asunder but this was not all which they had to make them happy they had Mr Elliot too Anne had a great deal to hear of Mr Elliot he was not only pardoned they were delighted with him he had been in about a fortnight he had passed through b in November in his way to London when the intelligence of s Walter's being settled there had of course reached him though only 24 hours in the place but he had not been able to Avail himself of it but he had now been a fortnight in bath and his first object on arriving had been to leave his card in Camden Place following it up by such assiduous Endeavors to meet and when they did meet by such great openness of conduct such Readiness to apologize for the past such solicitude to be received as a relation again that their former good understanding was completely reestablished they had not a fault to find in him he had explained away all the appearance of neglect on his own side it had originated in misapprehension entirely he had never had any idea of throwing himself off he had feared that he was thrown off but knew not why and delicacy had kept him silent upon the hint of having spoken disrespectfully or carelessly of the family and the family honors he was quite indignant he who had ever boasted of being an Elliot and who feelings as to connection were only too strict to suit the unud tone of the present day he was astonished indeed but his character in general conduct must refute it he could refer Sir Walter to all who knew him and certainly the pains he had been taking on this the first opportunity of reconciliation to be restored to the footing of a relation and air presumptive was a strong proof of his opinions on the subject the circumstances of his marriage too were found to admit of much extenuation this was an article not to be entered Ed on by himself but a very intimate friend of his a colonel Wallace a highly respectable man perfectly the gentleman and not an ill-looking man s Walter added who was living in very good style in maror buildings and had at his own particular request been admitted to their acquaintance through Mr Elliot had mentioned one or two things relative to the marriage which made a material difference in the discredit of it colonel Wallace had known Mr Elliot long had been well acquainted also with his wife had perfectly understood the whole story she was certainly not a woman of family but well educated accomplished rich and excessively in love with his friend there had been the charm she had sought him without that attraction not all her money would have tempted Elliot and Sir Walter was moreover assured of her having been a very fine woman here was a great deal to soften the business a very fine woman with a large fortune in love with him so Walter seemed to admit it as a complete apology and though Elizabeth could not see the circumstance in quite so favorable a light she allowed it to be a great extenuation Mr Elliot had called repeatedly had dined with them once evidently delighted by the distinction of being asked for they gave no dinners in general delighted in short by every proof of cousinly notice and placing his whole happiness in being on intimate terms in camam place Anne listened but without quite understanding it allowances large allowances she knew must be made for the ideas of those who spoke she heard it all under embellish ment all that sounded extravagant or irrational in the progress of the reconciliation might have no origin but in the language of the relators still however she had the sensation of there being something more than immediately appeared in Mr Elliott's wishing after an interval of so many years to be well received by them in a worldly view he had nothing to gain by being on terms with Sir Walter nothing to risk by a state of variance in all probability he was already the Richer of the the two and the Kellen state would as surely be his Hereafter as the title a sensible man and he had looked very like a sensible man why should it be an object to him she could only offer one solution it was perhaps for Elizabeth's sake there might really have been a liking formerly though convenience and accident had drawn him a different way and now that he could afford to please himself he might mean to pay his addresses to her Elizabeth was certainly very handsome with well-bred elegant m maners and her character might never have been penetrated by Mr Elliot knowing her but in public and when very young himself how her temper and understanding might bear the investigation of his present Keener time of life was another concern and rather a fearful one most earnestly did she wish that he might not be too nice or too observant if Elizabeth were his object and that Elizabeth was disposed to believe herself so and that her friend Mrs clay was encouraging the idea seemed apparent by a glance or two between them while Mr Elliot's frequent visits were talked of Anne mentioned the glimpses she had had of him at lime but without being much attended to oh yes perhaps it had been Mr Elliott they did not know it might be him perhaps they could not listen to her description of him they were describing him themselves so Walter especially he did Justice to his very gentlemanlike appearance his air of Elegance and fashion his good-shaped face his sensible eye but at the same time must lament his being very much underhung a defect which time seemed have increased nor could he pretend to say that 10 years had not altered almost every feature for the worse Mr Elliot appeared to think that he s Walter was looking exactly as he had done when they last parted but Sir Walter had not been able to return the compliment entirely which had embarrassed him he did not mean to complain however Mr Elliot was better to look at than most men and he had no objection of being seen with him anywhere Mr Elliot and his friends in marbor buildings were talked off the whole evening Colonel Wallace had been so impatient to be be introduced to them and Mr Elliot so anxious that he should and there was a Mrs Wallace at present known only to them by description as she was in Daily expectation of her confinement but Mr Elliot spoke of her as a most Charming woman quite worthy of being known in Camden Place and as soon as she recovered they were to be acquainted Sir Walter thought much of Mrs Wallace she was said to be an excessively Pretty Woman beautiful he longed to see her he hoped she might make some amends for the very many plain faces he was continually passing in the streets the worst of B was the number of its plain women he did not mean to say that there were no pretty women but the number of the plain was out of all proportion he had frequently observed as he walked that one handsome face would be followed by 30 or five and 30 Frights and once as he had stood in a shop on Bond Street he had counted 87 women go by one after another without there being a tolerable face among them it had been a frosty morning to be sure a sharp Frost which hardly one woman in a thousand could stand the test of but still there certainly were a dreadful multitude of ugly women in bath and as for the men they were infinitely worse such scarecrows as the streets were full of it was evident how little the women were used to the sight of anything tolerable by the effect which a man of decent appearance produced he had never walked anywhere arm in-arm with Colonel Wallace who was a fine military figure though Sandy head without observing that every woman's eye was upon him every woman's eye was sure to be upon Colonel Wallace modest so Walter he was not allowed to escape however his daughter and Mrs CLA United in hinting that Colonel Wallace's companion might have as good a figure as Colonel Wallace and certainly was not sandy-haired how is Mary looking said Sir Walter in the height of his Good Humor the last time I saw her she had a red nose but I hope that may not happen every day oh no that must have been quite accidental in general she has been in very good health and very good look since melus if I thought it would not tempt her to go out in sharp winds and grow coarse I would send her a new hat and police an was considering whether she should venture to suggest that a gown or a cap would not be liable to any such misuse when a knock at the door suspended everything a knock at the door and so late it was 10:00 could it be Mr Elliot they knew he was to dine in lown Crescent it was possible that he might stop in his way home to ask them how they did they could think of no one else Mrs clay decidedly thought it Mr Elliot's knock Mrs clay was right with all the state which a butler and footboy could give Mr Elliot was ushered into the room it was the same the very same man with no difference but of dress Anne drew a little back while the others received his compliments and her sister his apologies for calling at so unusual an hour but he could not be so near without wishing to know that neither She nor her friend had taken cold the day before etc etc which was all as politely done and as politely taken as possible but her part must follow then Sir Walter talked of his youngest daughter Mr Elliot must give give him leave to present his youngest daughter there was no occasion for remembering Mary and Anne smiling and blushing very becomingly showed to Mr Elliot the pretty features which he had by no means forgotten and instantly saw with amusement at his little start of surprise that he had not been at all aware of who she was he looked completely astonished but not more astonished than pleased his eyes brightened and with the most perfect alacrity he welcomed the relationship alluded to the past and entreated to be received as an acquaintance already he was quite as good-look as he had appeared at lime his countenance improved by speaking and his manners were so exactly what they ought to be so polished so easy so particularly agreeable that she could compare them in excellence to only one person's manners they were not the same but they were perhaps equally good he sat down with them and improved their conversation very much there could be no doubt of his being a sensible Man 10 minutes were enough to clarify that his tone his Expressions his choice of subject object his knowing where to stop it was all the operation of a sensible Discerning mind as soon as he could he began to talk to her of lime wanting to compare opinions respecting the place but especially wanting to speak of the circumstance of their happening to be guests in the same Inn at the same time to give his own route understanding something of hers and regret that he should have lost such an opportunity of paying his respects to her she gave him a short account of her party in business at lime his regret increased as he listened he had spent his whole solitary evening in the room adjoining theirs had heard voices mirth continually thought they must be a most delightful set of people long to be with them but certainly without the smallest suspicion of his possessing the shadow of a right to introduce himself if he had been asked who the party were the name of Musgrove would have told him enough while it would serve to cure him of an absurd practice of never asking a question at an inn which he had adopted when quite a young man on the principle of its being very ungentle to be curious the Notions of a young young man of one or two and 20 said he as to what is necessary in manners to make him quite the thing are more absurd I believe than those of any other set of beings in the world the Folly of the means they often employ is only to be equaled by the Folly of what they have in view but he must not be addressing his Reflections to Anne alone he knew it he was soon diffused again among the others and it was only at intervals that he could return to Lime his inquiries however produced at length an account of the scene she had been engaged in there soon after his leaving the place having alluded to an accident he must hear the whole when he questioned Sir Walter and Elizabeth began to question also but the difference in their manner of doing it could not be unfelt she could only compare Mr Elliot to Lady Russell in the wish of really comprehending what had passed and in the degree of concern for what she must have suffered in witnessing it he stayed an hour with them the elegant little clock on the mantle piece had struck 11 with its silver sounds and the Watchman was beginning to be heard at a distance telling the same tale before Mr Elliot or any of them seemed to feel that he had been there long Anne could not have supposed it possible that her first evening in Camden Place could have passed so well end of chapter 15 chapter 16 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 16 there was one point which Anne on returning to her family would have been more thankful to ascertain even than Mr Elliot's being in love with Elizabeth which was her father's not being in love with Mrs clay and she was very far from Easy about it when she had been at home a few hours on going down to breakfast the next morning she found there had just been a decent pretense on the lady's side of meaning to leave them she could imagine Mrs clay to have said that now Miss Anne was come she could not suppose herself at at all wanted for Elizabeth was replying in a sort of whisper that must not be any reason indeed I assure you I feel it none she is nothing to me compared with you and she was in full time to hear her father say my dear Madam this must not be as yet you have seen nothing of bath you have been here only to be useful you must not run away from us now you must stay to be acquainted with Mrs Wallace the beautiful Mrs Wallace to your fine mind I well know the sight of beauty is a real gratification he spoke and looked so much in Earnest that Anne was not surprised to see Mrs clay stealing a glance at Elizabeth and herself her countenance perhaps might express some watchfulness but the praise of the fine mind did not appear to excite a thought in her sister the lady could not but yield to such joint entreaties and promised to stay in the course of the same morning Anne and her father chancing to be alone together he began to compliment her on her improved looks he thought her less thin in her person in her cheeks her skin her complexion greatly improved clearer fresher had she been using anything in particular no nothing merely goland he supposed no nothing at all huh he was surprised at that and added certainly you cannot do better than to continue as you are you cannot be better than well or I should recommend galland the constant use of galland during the Spring months Mrs clay has been using it at my recommendation and you see what it has done for her you see how it has carried away her freckles if Elizabeth could have but heard this such personal praise might have struck her especially as it did not appear to Anne that the freckles were at all lessened but everything must take its chance the evil of a marriage would be much diminished if Elizabeth were also to marry as for herself she might always command a home with Lady Russell lady Russell's composed mind and polite manners were put to some trial on this point in her intercourse in Camden Place the sight of Mrs clay in such favor and of an so overlooked was a Perpetual provocation to her there and vexed her as much when she was away as a person in bath who drinks the water gets all the new Publications and has a very large acquaintance has time to be vexed as Mr Elliot became known to her she grew more charitable or more indifferent towards the others his manners were an immediate recommendation and on conversing with him she found the solid so fully supporting The Superficial that she was at first and she told Anne almost ready to exclaim can this be Mr Elliott and could not seriously picture to herself a more agreeable or estimable man everything United in him good understanding correct opinions knowledge of the world and a warm heart he had strong feelings of family attachment and family honor without Pride or weakness he lived with the liberality of a man of Fortune without display he judged for himself and everything essential without defying public opinion in any point of worldly decorum he was steady observant moderate candid never run away with by Spirits or by selfishness which fancied itself strong feeling and yet with a sensibility to what was amiable and lovely and a value for all the felicities of domestic life which characters of fancied enthusiasm and violent agitation seldom really possess she was sure that he had not been happy in marriage Colonel Wallace said it and Lady Russell saw it but it had been no unhappiness to sour his mind nor she began pretty soon to suspect to to prevent his thinking of a second choice her satisfaction and Mr Elliot outweighed all the plague of Mrs clay it was now some years since Anne had begun to learn that she and her excellent friend could sometimes think differently and it did not surprise her therefore that lady Russell should see nothing suspicious or inconsistent nothing to require more motives than appeared in Mr Elliot's great desire of a Reconciliation in lady Russell's view it was perfectly natural that Mr Elliot at a mature time time of life should feel it a most desirable object and what would very generally recommend him among all sensible people to be on good terms with the head of his family the simplest process in the world of time upon a head naturally clear and only erring in the Heyday of Youth Anne presumed however still to smile about it and at last to mention Elizabeth lady Russell listened and looked and made only this cautious reply Elizabeth very well time will explain it was a reference to the Future which Anne after a little observation felt she must submit to she could determine nothing at present in that house Elizabeth must be first and she was in the habit of such General observance as Miss Elliot that any particularity of attention seemed almost impossible Mr Elliot too it must be remembered had not been a widower 7 months a little delay on his side might be very excusable in fact Anne could never see the crepe around his hat without fearing that that she was the inexcusable one in attributing to him such imaginations for though his marriage had not been very happy still it had existed so many years that she could not comprehend a very rapid recovery from the awful impression of its being dissolved however it might end he was without any question their pleasantest acquaintance in bath she saw nobody equal to him and it was a great Indulgence now and then to talk to him about lime which he seemed to have as Lively a wish to see again and to see more of as herself they went through the particulars of their first meeting a great many times he gave her to understand that he had looked at her with some earnestness she knew it well and she remembered another person's look also they did not always think alike his value for Rank and connection she perceived was greater than hers it was not merely complacence it must be a liking to the cause which made him enter warmly into her father and sister solicitudes on a subject which she thought unworthy to excite them the bath paper one morning announced the arrival of the Dai Countess Del rmle and her daughter The Honorable Miss CD and all the comfort of number Camden Place were swept away for many days for the Dal rmes in Anne's opinion most unfortunately were cousins of The Elliots and the agony was how to introduce themselves properly Anne had never seen her father and sister before in contact with nobility and she must acknowledge herself disappointed she had hoped better things from their High ideas of Their Own situation in life and was reduced to form a wish which she had never foreseen a wish that they had more Pride for our cousins lady Dar rmle and Miss CD our cousins the DAR rles sounded in her ears all day long Sir Walter had once been in company with the Late by count but had never seen any of the rest of the family and the difficulties of the case arose from there having been a suspension of all intercourse by letters of ceremony ever since the death of that said late by count when in consequence of a dangerous illness of s Waters at the same time there had been an unlucky Omission at Kellen no letter of condolence had been sent to Ireland the neglect had been visited on the head of the sinner for when poor lady Elliot died herself no letter of condolence was received at Kellen and consequently there was but too much reason to apprehend that the Dal rles considered the relationship as closed how to have this anxious business set to rights and be admitted as cousins again was the question and it was a question which in a more rational manner neither lady Russell nor Mr Elliot thought unimportant family connections were always worth preserving good company always worth seeking Lady D rimple had taken a house for 3 months in Laura place and would be living in style she had been at bath the year before and Lady Russell had heard her spoken of as a Charming woman it was very desirable that the connection should be renewed if it could be done without any compromise of propriety on the the side of the Elliots Sir Walter however would choose his own means and at last wrote a very fine letter of ample explanation regret and in treaty to his right honorable cousin neither lady Russell nor Mr Elliot could admire the letter but it did all that was wanted in bringing three lines of scroll from the daag of VI Countess she was very much honored and should be happy in their acquaintance the toils of the business were over the sweets began they visited in Laura place they had the cards of s of I count testal rimple and The Honorable Miss cartrid to be arranged wherever they might be most visible and our cousins in Laura place our cousin lady Dar rmle and Miss cartrid were talked of to everybody Anne was ashamed had lady Dar rmle and her daughter even been very agreeable she would still have been ashamed of the agitation they created but they were nothing there was no superiority of manner accomplishment or understanding lady Dar rmle had acquired the name of a Charming woman because she had a smile and a civil answer for everybody miss Carteret with still less to say was so plain and so awkward that she would never have been tolerated in cam in place but for her birth lady Russell confessed she had expected something better but yet it was an acquaintance worth having and when Anne ventured to speak her opinion of them to Mr Elliot he agreed to there being nothing in themselves but still maintained that as a family connection as good company as those who would collect good company around them they had their value Anne smiled and said my idea of good company Mr Elliot is the company of clever well-informed people who have a great deal of conversation that is what I call good company you are mistaken said he gently that is not good company that is the best good company requires only birth education and manners and with regard to education it is not very nice birth and good manners are essential but a little learning is by no means a dangerous thing in good company on the contrary it will do very well my cousin Anne shakes her head she is not satisfied she is fastidious my dear cousin sitting down by her you have a better right to be fastidious than almost any other woman I know but will it answer will it make you happy will it not be wiser to accept the Society of those good ladies in Laura place and enjoy all the advantages of the connection as far as possible you may depend upon it that they will move in the first set in bath this winter and as rank as rank your being known to be related to them will have its use in fixing your family our family let me say in that degree of consideration which we must all wish for yes sighed Anne we shall indeed be known to be related to them then recollecting herself and not wishing to be answered she added I certainly do think there has been by far too much trouble taken to procure the acquaintance I suppose smiling I have more Pride than any of you but I confess it does vex me that we should be so solicitous to have the relationship acknowledged which we may be very sure is a matter of perfect indifference to them pardon me dear cousin you are unjust in your own claims in London perhaps in your present quiet style of living it might be as you say but in bath Sir Walter Elliot and his family will always be worth knowing always acceptable as acquaintance well said Anne I certainly am proud Too Proud to enjoy a welcome which depends so entirely upon place I love your indignation said he it is very natural but here you are in bath and the object is to be established here with all the credit and dignity which ought to belong to S Walter Elliot you talk of being proud I am called proud I know and I shall not wish to believe myself otherwise for our pride if investigated would have the same object I have no doubt though the kind may seem a little different in one point I am sure my dear cousin he continued speaking lower though there was no one else in the room in one point I am sure we must feel alike we must feel that every addition to your father's Society among his equals or superiors may be of use in diverting his thoughts from those who are beneath him he looked as he spoke to the seat which Mrs clay had been lately occupying a sufficient explanation of what he particularly meant and though Anne could not believe in their having the same sort of Pride she was pleased with him for not liking Mrs clay and her conscience admitted that his wishing to promote her father's getting great acquaintance was more than excusable in the view of defeating her end of chapter 16 chapter 17 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 17 while Sir Walter and Elizabeth were assiduously pushing their good fortune in Laura place an was renewing an acquaintance of a very different description she had called on her former governess and had heard from her of there being an old school fellow in bath who had the two strong claims on her attention of past kindness and present suffering Miss Hamilton now Mrs Smith had shown her kindness in one of those periods of her life when it had been most valuable Anne had gone unhappy to school grieving for the loss of a mother whom she had dearly loved feeling her separation from home and suffering as a girl of 14 of strong sensibility and not High Spirits must at such a time and Miss Hamilton 3 years older than herself but still from the want of near relations and a settled home remaining another year at school had been useful and good to her in a way which had considerably lessened her misery and could never be remembered with indifference Miss Hamilton had left school had married not long afterwards was said to have married a man of Fortune and this was all that Anne had known of her till now that their govern's account brought her situation forward in a more decided but very different form she was a widow and poor her husband had been extravagant and at his death about 2 years before had left his Affairs dreadfully involved she had had difficulties of every sort to contend with and in addition to these distresses had been Afflicted with a severe rheumatic fever which finally settling in her legs had made her for the present a she had come to Bath on that account and was now in lodgings near the hot baths living in a very humble way unable even to for herself the comfort of a servant and of course almost excluded from society their mutual friend answered for the satisfaction which a visit from Miss Elliot would give Mrs Smith and Anne therefore lost no time in going she mentioned nothing of what she had heard or what she intended at home it would excite no proper interest there she only consulted lady Russell who entered thoroughly into her sentiments and was most happy to convey her as near to Mrs Smith's lodgings in Westgate buildings as Anne chose to be taken the visit was paid their acquaintance reestablished their interest in each other more than rekindled the first 10 minutes had its awkwardness and its emotion 12 years were gone since they had parted and each presented a somewhat different person from what the other had imagined 12 years had changed Anne from the blooming Silent unformed Girl of 15 to The Elegant little woman of s and 20 with every Beauty except Bloom and with manners as consciously right as they were invariably gentle and 12 years had transformed the fine looking well-grown Miss Hamilton in all the glow of health and confidence of superiority into a poor infirm helpless Widow receiving the visit of her former Protegé as a favor but all that was uncomfortable in the meeting had soon passed away and left only the interesting charm of remembering former partialities and talking over Old Times Anne found in Mrs Smith The Good Sense and agreeable manners which she had almost ventured to depend on and a disposition position to converse and be cheerful Beyond her expectation neither the dissipations of the past and she had lived very much in the world nor the restrictions of the present neither sickness nor sorrow seemed to have closed her heart or ruined her spirits in the course of a second visit she talked with great openness and Anne's astonishment increased she could scarcely imagine a more cheerless situation in itself than Mrs Smiths she had been very fond of her husband she had buried him she had been used to affluence it was gone she had no child to connect her with life and happiness again no relations to assist in the arrangement of perplexed Affairs no Health to make all the rest supportable her accommodations were limited to a noisy parlor and a dark bedroom behind with no possibility of moving from one to the other without assistance which there was only one servant in the house to afford and she never quitted the house but to be conveyed into the warm bath yet in spite of all this Anne had reason to believe that she had moments only of ler and depression to hours of occupation and enjoyment how could it be she watched observed reflected and finally determined that this was not a case of fortitude or of resignation only a submissive Spirit might be patient a strong understanding would Supply resolution but here was something more here was that elasticity of mind that disposition to be comforted that power of turning readily from Evil to good and of finding employment which carried her out of herself which was from nature alone it was the choicest gift of heaven and Anne viewed her friend as one of those instances in which by a merciful appointment it seems designed to counterbalance almost every other want there had been a Time Mrs Smith told her when her spirits had nearly failed she could not call herself an invalid now compared with her State on first reaching bath then she had indeed been a pitiable object for she had caught cold on the journey and had hardly taken possession of her lodgings before she was again confined to her bed and suffering under severe and constant pain and all this among strangers with the absolute necessity of having a regular nurse and finances at that moment particularly unfit to meet any extraordinary expense she had weathered it however and could truly say that it had done her good it had increased her Comforts by making her feel herself to be in good hands she had seen too much of the world to expect sudden or disinterested attachment anywhere but her illness had proved to her that her land lady had a character to preserve and would not use her ill and she had been particularly fortunate in her nurse as a sister of her land lady a nurse by profession and who had always a home in that house when unemployed chanced to be at Liberty just in time to attend her and she said Mrs Smith besides nursing me most admirably has really proved an invaluable acquaintance as soon as I could use my hands she taught me to knit which has been a great amusement and she put me in the way of making these little thread cases pin cushions and card racks which you always find me so busy about and which Supply me with the means of doing a little good to one or two very poor families in this neighborhood she had a large acquaintance of course professionally among those who can afford to buy and she disposes of my merchandise she always takes the right time for applying everybody's heart is open you know when they have recently escaped from severe pain or are recovering the blessing of good health and nurse Rook thoroughly understands when to speak she is a shrewd intelligent sensible woman hers is a line for seeing human nature and she has a fund of Good Sense and observation which as a companion make her infinitely Superior to thousands of those who having only received the best education in the world know nothing worth attending to call it gossip if you will but when nurse Rook has half an hour's Leisure to bestow on me she is sure to have something to relate that is entertaining and profitable something that makes one know one's species better one likes to hear what is going on to be your fair as to the newest modes of being trifling and silly to me who live so much alone her conversation I assure you is a treat an far from wishing to caval at the pleasure replied I can easily believe it women of that class have great opportunities and if they are intelligent may be well worth listening to such varieties of human nature as they are in the habit of witnessing and it is not merely in its folies that they are well read for they see it occasionally under every circumstance that can be most interesting or affecting what instances must pass before them of ardent disinterested self-denying attachment of heroism fortitude patience resignation of all the conflicts and all the sacrifices that en Noble us most a sick chamber May often furnish the worth of volumes yes said Mrs Smith more doubtingly sometimes it may though I fear its lessons are not often in the elevated style you describe here and there human nature may be great in times of trial but generally speaking it is its weakness and not its strength that appears in in a sick chamber it is selfishness and impatience rather than generosity and fortitude that one hears of there is so little real friendship in the world and unfortunately speaking low and tremulously there are so many who forget to think seriously till it is almost too late Anne saw the misery of such feelings the husband had not been what he ought and the wife had been LED among that part of man kind which made her think worse of the world than she hoped it deserved it was but a passing emotion however with Mrs Smith she shook it off and soon added in a different tone I do not suppose the situation my friend Mrs Rook is in at present will furnish much either to interest or edify me she is only nursing Mrs Wallace of marbro buildings a mere pretty silly expensive fashionable woman I believe and of course will have nothing to report but of lace and finery I mean to make my profit of Mrs Wallace however she has plenty of money and I intend she shall buy all the high priced things I have in hand now Anne had called several times on her friend before the existence of such a person was known in Camden Place at last it became necessary to speak of her Sir Walter Elizabeth and Mrs clay returned one morning from Laura place with a sudden invitation from Lady Del rmle for the same evening and Anne was already engaged to spend that evening in wcap buildings she was not sorry for the excuse they were only asked she was sure because lady Dal rmle being kept at home by a bad cold was glad to make use of the relationship which had been so pressed on her and she declined on her own account with great alacrity she was engaged to spend the evening with an old school fellow they were not much interested in anything relative to Anne but still there were questions enough asked to make it understood what this old school fellow was and Elizabeth was disdainful and Sir Walter severe Westgate buildings said he and who is Miss Anne Elliot to be visiting in Westgate buildings a Mrs Smith a widow Mrs Smith and who was her husband one of 5,000 Mr Smith whose names are to be met with everywhere and what is her attraction that she is old and sickly upon my word miss an Elliot you have the most extraordinary taste everything that revolts other people low company poultry rooms foul air disgusting associations are inviting to you but surely you may put off this old lady till tomorrow she is not so near her end I presume but that she may hope to see another day what is her age 40 no sir she is not one in 30 but I do not think I can put her my engagement because it is the only evening for some time which will at once suit her and myself she goes into the warm bath tomorrow and for the rest of the week you know we are engaged but what does Lady Russell think of this acquaintance asked Elizabeth she sees nothing to blame in it replied Anne on the contrary she approves it and has generally taken me when I have called on Mrs Smith Westgate buildings must have been rather surprised by the appearance of a carriage drawn up near its pavement observed sir water Sir Henry Russell's Widow indeed has has no honors to distinguish her arms but still it is a handsome equipage and no doubt is well known to convey Miss Elliot a widow Miss Smith lodging in Westgate buildings a poor Widow barely able to live between 30 and 40 a mere Mrs Smith an everyday Mrs Smith of all people and all names in the world to be the chosen friend of Miss Anne Elliot and to be preferred by her to her own family connections among the nobility of England and Ireland Mrs Smith such a name Mrs clay who had been present while all this passed now thought it advisable to leave the room and Anne could have said much and did long to say a little in defense of her friends not very dissimilar claims to theirs but her sense of personal respect to her father prevented her she made no reply she left it to himself to recollect that Mrs Smith was not the only Widow in bath between 30 and 40 with little to live on and no surname of dignity Anne kept her appointment the others kept theirs and of course she heard the next morning that they they had had a delightful evening she had been the only one of the set absent for Sir Walter and Elizabeth had not only been quite at the ladyship service themselves but had actually been happy to be employed by her in collecting others and had been at the trouble of inviting both lady Russell and Mr Elliot and Mr Elliott had made a point of leaving Colonel Wallace early and Lady Russell had fresh arranged all her evening engagements in order to wait on her Anne had the whole history of all that such an evening could Supply from Lady Russell to her its greatest interest must be in having been very much talked of between her friend and Mr Elliot in having been wished for regretted and at the same time honored for staying away in such a cause her kind compassionate visits to this old school fellow sick and reduced seemed to have quite delighted Mr Elliott he thought her a most extraordinary young woman in her temper manners mind a model of female Excellence he could meet even lady Russell in a discussion of her merits and Anne could not be given to understand so much by her friend could not know herself to be so highly rated by a sensible Man Without many of those agreeable Sensations which her friend meant to create lady Russell was now perfectly decided in her opinion of Mr Elliot she was as much convinced of his meaning to gain Anne in time as of his deserving her and was beginning to calculate the number of weeks which would free him from all the remaining restraints of widowhood and leave him at Liberty to exert his most open powers of pleasing she would not speak to Anne with half the certainty she felt on the subject she would venture on little more than hints of what might be Hereafter of a possible attachment on his side of the desirableness of the alliance supposing such attachment to be real and returned Anne heard her and made no violent exclamations she only smiled blushed and gently shook her head I am no Matchmaker as you well know said lady Russell being much too well aware of the uncertainty of all human events and calculations I only mean that if Mr Elliot should sometime hence pay his addresses to you and if you should be disposed to accept him I think there would be every possibility of you being happy together a most suitable connection Everybody Must consider it but I think it might be a very happy one Mr Elliot is an exceedingly agreeable man and in many respects I think highly of him said Anne but we should not suit lady Russell let this passed and only said in rejoinder I own that to be able to regard you as the future Mistress of Kellen the future lady Elliot to look forward and see you occupy in your dear mother's Place succeeding to all her rights and all her popularity as well as to all her virtues would be the highest possible gratification to me you are your mother's self in countenance and disposition and if I might be allowed to fancy you such as she was in situation and name and home presiding and blessing in the same spot and only Superior to her in being more highly valued my dearest Anne it would give me more Delight than is often felt at my time of life Anne was a obliged to turn away to rise to walk to a distant table and leaning there in pretended employment triy to subdue the feelings this picture excited for a few moments Her Imagination and her heart were Bewitched the idea of becoming what her mother had been of having the precious name of Lady Elliot first revived in herself of being restored to Kellen calling it her home again her home forever was a charm which she could not immediately resist lady Russell said Not Another word willing to leave the matter to its own operation and believing that could Mr Elliot at that moment with propriety have spoken for himself she believed in short what Anne did not believe the same image of Mr Elliot speaking for himself brought Anne to composure again the charm of Kellen and of Lady Elliot all faded away she never could accept him and it was not only that her feelings were still adverse to any man save one her judgment on a serious consideration of the possibilities of such a case was against Mr Elliot though they had now been acquainted a month she could not be satisfied that she really knew his character that he was a sensible man an agreeable man that he talked well professed good opinions seemed to judge properly and as a man of principle this was all clear enough he certainly knew what was right nor could she fix on any one article of moral duty evidently transgressed but yet she would have been afraid to answer for his conduct she distrusted the past if not the present the names which occasionally dropped of former Associates the Illusions to former practices and Pursuits suggested suspicions not favorable of what he had been she saw that there had been bad habits that Sunday traveling had been a common thing that there had been a period of his life and probably not a short one when he had been at least careless in all serious matters and though he might now think very differently who could answer for the true Sentiments of a clever cautious man grown old enough to appreciate a fair character how could it ever be ascertained that his mind was truly cleansed Mr Elliot was rational discreet polished but he was not open there was never any burst of feeling any warmth of indignation or delight at the evil or good of others this to Anne was a decided imperfection her early Impressions were incurable she prised the Frank the openhearted the eager character beyond all others warmth and enthusias i m did Captivate her still she felt that she could so much more depend upon the sincerity of those who sometimes looked or said a careless or Hasty thing than of those whose presence of mind never varied whose tongue never slipped Mr Elliot was too generally agreeable various as were the tempers in her father's house he pleased them all he endured too well stood too well with everybody he had spoken to her with some degree of openness of Mrs clay had appeared completely to see what Mrs clay was about to hold her in contempt and yet Mrs clay found him as agreeable as anybody lady Russell saw either less or more than her young friend for she saw nothing to excite distrust she could not imagine a man more exactly what he ought to be than Mr Elliot nor did she ever enjoy a sweeter feeling than the hope of seeing him receive the hand of her beloved an in Kellen Church in the course of the following Autumn end of chapter 17 chapter 18 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 18 it was the beginning of February and Anne having been a month in bath was growing very eager for news from upper cross and lime she wanted to hear much more than Mary had communicated it was 3 weeks since she had heard it all she only knew that Henrietta was at home again and that Louisa though considered to to be recovering fast was still in lime and she was thinking of them all very intently one evening when a thicker letter than usual from Mary was delivered to her and to Quicken the pleasure and surprise with Admiral and Mrs croft's compliments the Crofts must be in bath a circumstance to interest her they were people whom her heart turned to very naturally what is this cried Sir Walter the Crofts have arrived in bath the Crofts who rent kelleng what have they brought you a letter from uppercross Cottage sir oh those letters are convenient passports they secure an introduction I should have visited Admiral Croft however at any rate I know what is my due to my tenant Anne could listen no longer she could not even have told how the poor Admiral's complexion escaped her letter engrossed her it had been begun several days back February 1st my dear Anne I make no apology for my silence because I know how little people think of letters in such a place as bath you must be a great deal too happy to care for uppercross which as you well know affords little to write about we have had a very dull Christmas Mr and Mrs Musgrove have not had one dinner party all the holidays I do not reckon the haters as anybody the holidays however are over at last I believe no children ever had such a long ones I am sure I had not the house was cleared yesterday except of the little harles but you will be surprised to hear they have never gone home Mrs Harel must be an odd mother to part with them so long I do not understand it they are not at all nice children in my opinion but Mrs Musgrove seems to like them quite as well if not better than her grandchildren what Dreadful weather we have had it may not be felt inar with your nice Pavements but in the country it is of some consequence I have not had a creature call on me since the second week of January except Charles hater who had been calling much oftener than was welcome between ourselves I think it a great pity Henrietta did not remain at lime as long as Louisa it would have kept her a little out of his way the carriage is gone to today to bring Louisa in the harvil tomorrow we are not asked to dine with them however till the day after Mrs Musgrove is so afraid of her being fatigued by the journey which is not very likely considering the care that will be taken of her and it would be much more convenient to me to dine there tomorrow I am glad you find Mr Elliot so agreeable and I wish I could be acquainted with him too but I have my usual luck I am always out of the way when anything desirable is going on always the last of my family to be noticed what an immense Time Mrs clay had been staying with Elizabeth does she never mean to go away but perhaps if she were to leave the room vacant we might not be invited let me know what you think of this I do not expect my children to be asked you know I can leave them at the great house very well for a month or six weeks I have this moment heard that the crofs are going to Bath almost immediately they think the Admiral gouty Charles heard it quite by chance they have not had the civility to give me any notice or of offering to take anything I do not think they improve at all as neighbors we see nothing of them and this is really an instance of gross in atttention Charles joins me in love and everything proper yours affectionately Mary M I am sorry to say that I am very far from well and jamaa has just told me that the butcher says there is a bad sore throat very much about I dare say I shall catch it and my sore throats you know are always worse than anybody's so ended the first part which had been afterwards put into an envelope containing nearly as much more I kept my letter open that I might send you word how Louise bore her journey and now I am extremely glad I did having a great deal to add in the first place I had a note from Mrs Croft yesterday offering to convey anything to you a very kind friendly note indeed addressed to me just as it ought I shall therefore be able to make my letter as long as I like the Admiral does not seem very ill and I sincerely hope bath will do him all the good he wants I shall be truly glad to have them back again our neighborhood cannot spare such a pleasant family but now for Louisa I have something to communicate that will astonish you not a little she and the harvil came on Tuesday very safely and in the evening we went to ask her how she did when we were rather surprised not to find captain benck of the party for he had been invited as well as the Harel and what do you think was the reason neither more nor less than his being in love with Louisa and not choosing to venture to uppercross till he had had an answer from Mr Musgrove for it was all settled between him and her before she came away and he had written to her father by Captain Harville true upon my honor are not you astonished I shall be surprised at least if you ever received a hint of it for I never did Mrs Musgrove protests solemnly that she knew nothing of the matter we are all very pleased however for though it is not equal to her marrying Captain Wentworth it is infinitely better than Charles hater and Mr Musgrove has written his consent and Captain benick is expected today Mrs Harville says her husband feels a good deal on his poor sister's account but however Louisa is a great favorite with both indeed Mrs Harel and I quite agree that we love her the better for having nursed her Charles wonders what Captain Wentworth will say but if you remember I never thought him attached to Louisa I never could see anything of it and this is the end you see of Captain bencks being supposed to be an admirer of yours how Charles could take such a thing into his head was always incomprehensible to me I hope he will be more agreeable now certainly not a great match for Louisa Musgrove but a million times better than marrying among the haters Mary need not have feared her sister's being in any degree prepared for the news she had never in her life been more astonished captain benick and Louisa Musgrove it was almost too wonderful for belief and it was with the greatest effort that she could remain in the room preserve an air of calmness and answer the common questions of a moment happily for her they were not many so Walter wanted to know whether the Crofts traveled with four horses and whether they were likely to be situated in such a part of bath as it might suit Miss Elliot and himself to visit in but had little curiosity Beyond Beyond how is Mary said Elizabeth and without waiting for an answer and pray what brings the crofs to Bath they come on the Admiral's account he is thought to be gouty gout and decrepitude said s Walter poor old gentleman have they any acquaintance here asked Elizabeth I do not know but I can hardly suppose that at Admiral croft's time of life and in his profession he should not have many acquaintance in such a place as this I suspect said s Walter cooly that Admiral Croft will be best known in bath as the renter of Kellen Hall Elizabeth may we venture to present him and his wife in Laura place oh no I think not situated as we are with Lady Dar rmle cousins we ought to be very careful not to embarrass her with acquaintance she might not approve if we were not related it would not signify but as cousins she would feel scrupulous as to any proposal of ours we had better leave the crofs to find their own level there are several odd-looking men walking about here who I am told are sailors the crofs will associate with them this was s Walter and Elizabeth's share of interest in the letter when Mrs clay had paid her tribute of more decent attention in an inquiry after Mrs Charles Musgrove and her fine little boys Anne was at Liberty in her own room she tried to comprehend it well might Charles wonder how Captain Wentworth would feel perhaps he had quitted the field had given Louisa up had ceased to love had found he did not love her she could not endure the idea of treachery or Lev or anything akin to Ill usage between him and his friend she could not endure that such a friendship as theirs should be severed unfairly captain benck and Louisa Musgrove the high-spirited joyous talking Louisa Musgrove and the dejected thinking feeling reading Captain benck seemed each of them everything that would not suit the other their minds most dissimilar where could have been the attraction the answer soon presented itself it had been in situation they had been thrown together together several weeks they had been living in the same small family party since Henrietta is coming away they must have been depending almost entirely on each other and Louisa just recovering from illness had been in an interesting State and Captain benick was not inconsolable that was a point which Anne had not been able to avoid suspecting before and instead of drawing the same conclusion as Mary from the present course of events they served only to confirm the idea of his having felt some dawning of tenderness toward herself she did not mean however to derive much more from it to gratify her vanity than Mary might have allowed she was persuaded that any tolerably pleasing young woman who had listened and seemed to feel for him would have received the same compliment he had an affectionate heart he must love somebody she saw no reason against their being happy Louisa had fine Naval fervor to begin with and they would soon grow more alike he would gain cheerfulness and she would learn to be an Enthusiast for Scott and Lord Byron nay that was probably learned all already of course they had fallen in love over poetry the idea of Louisa Musgrove turned into a person of literary taste and sentimental reflection was amusing but she had no doubt of its being so the day at lime the fall from the cob might influence her health her nerves her courage her character to the end of her life as thoroughly as it appeared to have influenced her fate the conclusion of the whole was that if the woman who had been sensible of Captain wentworth's merits could be allowed to prefer another man there there was nothing in the engagement to excite lasting wonder and if Captain Wentworth lost no friend by it certainly nothing to be regretted no it was not regret which made Anne's heart beat in spite of herself and brought the color into her cheeks when she thought of Captain Wentworth Unshackled and free she had some feelings which she was ashamed to investigate they were too much like Joy senseless Joy she longed to see the Crofts but when the meeting took place it was evident that no room of the news had yet reached them the visit of ceremony was paid and returned and Louisa Musgrove was mentioned and Captain benck too without even half a smile the crafts had placed themselves in lodgings in Gay Street perfectly to S Walter's satisfaction he was not at allall ashamed of the acquaintance and did in fact think and talk a great deal more about the Admiral than the Admiral ever thought or talked about him the Crofts knew quite as many people in bath as they wished for and considered their intercourse with The Elliots as a mere matter of form and not in the least likely to afford them any pleasure they brought with them their country habit of being almost always together he was ordered to walk to keep off the gout and Mrs Croft seemed to go shares with him in everything and to walk for her life to do him good Anne saw them wherever she went lady Russell took her out in her carriage almost every morning and she never failed to think of them and never failed to see them knowing their feelings as she did it was a most attractive picture of Happiness to her she always watched them as long as she could could delighted to fancy she understood what they might be talking of as they walked along in happy Independence or equally delighted to see the Admiral's hearty Shake of the hand when he encountered an old friend and observed their eagerness of conversation when occasionally forming into a little knot of the Navy Mrs Croft looking as intelligent and Keen as any of the officers around her Anne was too much engaged with Lady Russell to be often walking herself but it so happened one morning about a week or 10 days after the croft's arrival it suited her best to leave her friend or her friend's carriage in the lower part of the town and return alone to Camden Place and in walking up Milson street she had the Good Fortune to meet with the Admiral he was standing by himself at a print shop window with his hands behind him in Earnest contemplation of some print and she not only might have passed him unseen but was obliged to touch as well as address him before she could catch his notice when he did perceive an acknowledg her however it was done with all his usual frankness and Good Humor ah is it you thank you thank you this is treating me like like a friend here I am you see staring at a picture I can never get by this shop without stopping but what a thing here is by way of a boat do look at it did you ever see the like what queer fellows your fine painters must be to think that anybody would venture their lives in such a shapeless Old cocko Shell as that and yet here are two gentlemen stuck up in it mightily at their ease and looking about them at the rocks and mountains as if they were not to be upset the next moment which they certainly must be I wonder where that boat was built laughing heartily I would not over a horse pond in it well turning away now where are you bound can I go anywhere for you or with you can I be of any use none I thank you unless you will give me the pleasure of your company the little way our road lies together I am going home that I will with all my heart and father too yes yes we will have a snug walk together and I have something to tell you as we go along there take my arm that's right I do not feel comfortable if I have not a woman there Lord what a boat it is taking a last look at the the picture as they began to be in motion did you say that you had something to tell me sir yes I have presently but here comes a friend Captain bridon I shall only say how do you do as we pass however I shall not stop how do you do bridgen stares to see anybody with me but my wife she poor soul is Tied by the leg she has a blister on one of her heels as large as a three Shilling piece if you look across the street you will see Admiral brand coming down and his brother shabby fellows both of them I am glad they are not on this side of the way Sophie cannot bear them they played me a pitiful trick once got away with some of my best men I will tell you the whole story another time there comes old sirable Drew and his grandson look he sees us he kisses his hand to you he takes you for my wife ah the piece has come too soon for that Yonker poor old sir arable how do you like bath Miss Elliot suits us very well we're always meeting with some old friend or other the streets full of them every morning sure to have plenty of Chad and then we get away from them all and shut our El in our lodgings and draw in our chairs and are snug as if we were at Kellen I or as we used to be even at North Yarmouth and deal we do not like our lodgings here the worse I can tell you for putting us in mind of those we first had at North Yarmouth the wind blows through one of the cupboards just in the same way when they were gone a little farther Anne ventured to press again for what he had to communicate she hoped when clear of milsum Street to have her curiosity gratified but she was still obliged to wait for the Admiral had made up his mind not to begin till they had gained the greater space and quiet of Belmont and as she was not really Mrs Croft she must let him have his own way as soon as they were fairly ascending Belmont he began well now you shall hear something that will surprise you but first of all you must tell me the name of the young lady I am going to talk about that young lady you know that we have all been so concerned for the Miss Musgrove that all this has been happening to her Christian name I always forget her Christian name Anne had been ashamed to appear to comprehend so soon as she really did but now she could safely suggest the name of Louisa a I miss Louisa Musgrove that is the name I wish young ladies had not such a number of fine Christian names I should never be out if they were all sophies or something of that sort well this Miss Louisa we all thought you know was to marry Frederick he was cting her week after week the only Wonder was what they should be waiting for till the business at lime came then indeed it was clear enough that they must wait till her brain was set to write but even then there was something odd in their way of going on instead of staying at lunch time he went off to Plymouth and then he went off to see Edward when we came back from mine head he was gone down to Edwards and there he has been ever since we have seen nothing of him since November even Sophie could not understand it but now the matter has taken the strangest turn of all for this young lady this same Miss Musgrove instead of being to marry Frederick is to marry James benck you know James benck A little I am a little acquainted with Captain benck well she is to marry him nay most likely they are married already for I do not know what they should wait for I thought Captain benick a very pleasing young man said Anne and I understand that he Bears an excellent character oh yes yes there is not a word to be said against James benic he is only a commander it is true made last summer and these are bad times for getting on but he has not another fault that I know of an excellent good-hearted fellow I assure you a very active zealous officer too which is more than you would think for perhaps for that soft sort of manner does not do him Justice indeed you are mistaken there sir I should never orer want of spirit from Captain bennicks manners I thought particularly pleasing and I will answer for it they would generally please well well ladies are the best judges but James benck is rather too piano for me and though very likely it is all our partiality Sophie and I cannot help thinking Frederick's manners better than his there is something about Frederick more to our taste Anne was caught she had only meant to oppose the too common idea of spirit and gentleness being incompatible with each other not at all to represent Captain Ben's manners as the very best that could possibly be and after a little hesitation she was beginning to say I was not entering into any comparison of the two friends but the Admiral interrupted her with and the thing is certainly true it is not a mere bit of Gossip we have had it from Frederick himself his sister had a letter from him yesterday in which he tells us of it and he had just had it in a letter from Harville written upon the spot from uppercross I fancy they are all at uppercross this was an opportunity which Anne could not resist she said therefore I hope Admiral I hope there is nothing in the style of Captain wentworth's left to make you and Mrs Croft particularly uneasy it did seem last Autumn as if there were an attachment between him and Louisa Musgrove but I hope it may be understood to have worn out on each side equally and without violence I hope his letter does not breathe the spirit of an ill-used man not at all not at all there is not an oath or a murmur from beginning to end Anne looked down to hide her smile no no Frederick is not a man to whine and complain he has too much spirit for that if the girl likes another man better it is very fit she should have him certainly but what I mean is that I hope there is nothing in Captain wentworth's manner of writing to make you suppose he thinks himself ill used by his friend which might appear you know without its being absolutely said I should be very sorry that such a friendship as has subsisted between him and Captain benck should be destroyed or even wounded by a circumstance of this sort yes yes I understand you but there is nothing at all of that nature in the letter he does not give the least fling at benck does not so much as say I wonder at it I have a reason of my own for wondering at it no you would not guess from his way of writing that he had ever thought of this Miss what's a name for himself he very handsomely hopes they will be happy together and there is nothing very unforgiving in that I think Anne did not receive the perfect conviction which the Admiral meant to convey but it would have been useless to press the inquiry further she therefore satisfied herself with commonplace remarks or quied attention and the Admiral had it all his own way poor Frederick said he at last now he must begin all over again with somebody else I think we must get him to Bath sopie must write and beg him to come to Bath here are pretty girls enough I am sure it would be of no use to go to uppercross again for that other Miss Musgrove I find is bespoke by her cousin the young Parson do not you think Miss Elliot we had better try to get him to Bath end of chapter 18 chapter 19 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 19 while Admiral Croft was taking this walk with Anne and expressing His Wish of getting Captain Wentworth to Bath Captain Wentworth was already on his way thither before Mrs Croft had written he was arrived and the very next time Anne walked out she saw him Mr Elliot was attending his two cousins and Mrs clay they were in Milson Street it began to rain not much but enough to make shelter desirable for women and quite enough to make it very desirable for Miss Elliot to have the advantage of being conveyed home in lady Dole's Carriage which was seen waiting at a little distance she Anne and Mrs clay therefore turned into Mullins while Mr Elliot stepped to Lady Del rmle to request her assistance he soon joined them again successful of course lady Del rmle would be most happy to take them home and would call for them in a few minutes her ladyship's was a barouche and did not hold more than four with any comfort Miss cartrid was with her mother consequently it was not reasonable to expect accommodation for all the three Camden Place ladies there could be no doubt as to Miss Elliot whoever suffered inconvenience she must suffer none but it occupied a little time to settle the point of Civility between the other two the rain was a mere trifle and Anne was most sincere in preferring a walk with Mr Elliot but the rain was also a mere trifle to Mrs clay she would hardly allow it even to drop at all and her boots were so thick much thicker than Miss Anne's and in short her civility rendered her quite as anxious to be left to walk with Mr Elliot as Anne could be and it was discussed between them with a generosity so polite and so determined that the others were obliged to settle it for them Miss Elliot maintaining that Mrs clay had a little cold already and Mr Elliot deciding on appeal that his cousin Anne's boots were rather the thickest it was fixed accordingly that Mrs clay should be of the party in the carriage and had just reached this point when Anne as she sat near the window descried most decidedly and distinctly Captain Wentworth walking down the street her start was perceptible only to herself but she instantly felt that she was the greatest simpleton in the world the most unaccountable and absurd for a few minutes she saw nothing before her it was all confusion she was lost and when she had scolded back her senses she found the others still waiting for the carriage and Mr Elliot always obliging just setting off for Union Street on a commission of Mrs Clay's she now felt a great inclination to go to the outer door she wanted to see if it rained why was she to suspect herself of another motive Captain Wentworth must be out of sight she left her seat she would go one half of her should not be always so much wiser than the other half or always suspecting the other of being worse than it was she would see if it rained she was sent back however in a moment by the entrance of Captain Wentworth himself among a party of gentlemen and ladies evidently his acquaintance and whom he must have joined a little below milsum Street he was more obviously struck and confused by the site of her than she had ever observed before he looked quite red for the first time since their renewed acquaintance she felt that she was betraying the least sensibility of the two she had the advantage of him in the preparation of the last few moments all the overpowering blinding bewildering first effects of strong surprise were over with her still however she had enough to feel it was agitation pain pleasure a something between delight and misery he spoke to her and then turned away the character of his manner was embarrassment she could not have called it either cold or friendly or anything so certainly as embarrassed after a short interval however he came towards her he spoke again Mutual inquiries on common subjects passed neither of them probably much the wiser for what they heard and Anne continuing fully sensible of his being less at than formerly they had by tint of being so very much together got to speak to each other with a considerable portion of apparent indifference and calmness but he could not do it now time had changed him or Louisa had changed him there was consciousness of some sort or other he looked very well not as if he had been suffering in healthful spirits and he talked of uppercross of the musgroves N even of Louisa and had even a momentary look of his own arch significance as he named her but yet it was Captain Wentworth not comfortable not easy not able to Fain what he was it did not surprise but it grieved an to observe that Elizabeth would not know him she saw that he saw Elizabeth that Elizabeth saw him that there was complete internal recognition on each side she was convinced that he was ready to be acknowledged as an acquaintance expecting it and she had the pain of seeing her sister turn away with unalterable coldness lady dimple's carriage for which Miss Elliot was growing very impatient now Drew up the servant came in to announce it it was beginning to rain again and altogether there was a delay and a bustle and a talking which must make all the little crowd in the shop understand that lady do rimple was calling to convey Miss Elliot at last Miss Elliot and her friend unattended but by the servant for there was no cousin returned were walking off and Captain Wentworth watching them turned again to Anne and by manner rather than words was offering his services to her I am much obliged to you was her answer but I am not going with them the carriage would not accommodate so many I walk I prefer walking but it rains oh very little nothing that I regard after a moment's pause he said though I came only yesterday I have equipped myself properly for bath already you see pointing to a new umbrella I wish you would make use of it if you are determined to walk though I think it would be more prudent to let me get you a chair she was very much obliged to him but declined it all repeating her conviction that the rain would come to nothing at present I only waiting for Mr Elliot he will be here in a moment I am sure she had hardly spoken the words when Mr Elliot walked in Captain Wentworth recollected him perfectly there was no difference between him and the man who had stood on the steps at lme admiring Anne as she passed except in the air and look and manner of the privileged relation and friend he came in with eagerness appearing to see and think only of her apologized for his stay was grieved to have kept her waiting and anxious to get her away without further loss of time and before the rain increased and in another moment they walked off together her arm under his a gentle and embarrassed glance and a good morning to you being all that she had time for as she passed away as soon as they were out of sight the ladies of Captain wentworth's party began talking of them Mr Elliot does not dislike his cousin I fancy oh no that is clear enough one can guess what will happen there he is always with them half Liv in the family I believe what a very good-looking man yes and Miss Atkinson who died with him once at the Wallace's says he is the most agreeable man she was ever in company with she is pretty I think Anne Elliot very pretty when one comes to look at her it is not the fashioned to say so but I confess I admire her more than her sister oh so do I and so do I no comparison but the men are all wild after Miss Elliot Anne is too delicate for them Anne would have been particularly obliged to her cousin if he would have walked by her side all the way to Camden place without saying a word she had never found it so difficult to listen to him though nothing could exceed his solicitude and care and though his subjects were principally such as were want to be always interesting praise warm just and discriminating of Lady Russell and insinuations highly rational against Mrs clay but just now she could think only of Captain Wentworth she could not understand his present feelings whether he were really some uffing much from disappointment or not until that point was settled she could not be quite herself she hoped to be wise and reasonable in time but alas alas she must confess to herself that she was not wise yet another circumstance very essential for her to know was how long he meant to be in bath he had not mentioned it or she could not recollect it he might be only passing through but it was more probable that he should be come to stay in that case so iable as everybody was to meet everybody in bath lady Russell would in all likelihood see him somewhere would she recollect him how would it all be she had already been obliged to tell lady Russell that Louisa Musgrove was to marry Captain benick it had cost her something to encounter lady Russell's surprise and now if she were by any chance to be thrown into company with Captain Wentworth her imperfect knowledge of the matter might add another shade of prejudice against him the following morning Anne was out with her friend and for the first hour in an incessant and fearful sort of watch for him in vain but at last in returning down PNE street she distinguished him on the right- hand pavement at such a distance as to have him in view the greater part of the street there were many other men about him many groups walking the same way but there was no mistaking him she looked instinctively at lady Russell but not from any mad idea of her recognizing him so soon as she did herself no it was not to be suppose that lady Russell would perceive him till they were nearly opposite she looked at her however from time to time anxiously and when the moment approached which must Point him out though not daring to look again for her own countenance she knew was unfit to be seen she was yet perfectly conscious of Lady Russell's eyes being turned exactly in the direction for him of her being in short intently observing him she could thoroughly comprehend the sort of Fascination he must possess over lady Russell's mind the difficulty it must be for her to withdraw her eyes the astonishment she must be feeling that eight or nine years should have passed over him and in foreign climbs and in active service too without robbing him of one personal Grace at last Lady Russell Drew back her head now how would she speak of him you will wonder said she what has been fixing my eye so long but I was looking after some window curtains which lady Alicia and Mrs Franklin were telling me of last night they described the drawing room window curtains of one of the houses on this side of the way and this part of the street as being the handsomest and best hung of any in bath but could not recollect the exact number and I have been trying to find out which it could be but I confess I can see no curtains here about that answer their description Anne sighed and blushed and smiled in pity and disdain either at her friend or herself the part that provoked her most was that in all this waste of foresight and caution she should have lost the moment for seeing whether he saw them a day or two passed without producing anything the theater or the rooms where he was most likely to be were not fashionable enough for The Elliots whose evening amusements were solely in the elegant stupidity of private parties in which they were getting more and more engaged and Anne wearied of such a state of stagnation sick of knowing nothing and fancying herself stronger because her strength was not tried was quite impatient for the concert evening it was a concert for the benefit of a person patronized by Lady Dar rmle of course they must attend it was really expected to be a good one and Captain Wentworth was very fond of Music if only she could have a few minutes conversation with him again she fancied she should be satisfied and as to the power of addressing him she felt all over courage if the opportunity occurred Elizabeth had turned from him lady Russell overlooked him her nerves were strengthened by these circumstances she felt that she owed him attention she had once parted promised Mrs Smith to spend the evening with her but in a short hurried call she excused herself and put it off with the more decided promise of a longer visit on the tomorrow Mrs Smith gave a most goodh humored acquiescence by all means said she only tell me all about it when you do come who is your party Anne named them all Mrs Smith made no reply but when she was leaving her said and with an expression half serious half art well I heartily wish your concert May answer and do not fail me tomorrow if you can come for I begin to have a for boing that I may not have many more visits from you Anne was startled and confused but after standing in a moment suspense was obliged and not sorry to be obliged to hurry away end of chapter 19 chapter 20 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 20 Sir Walter his two daughters and Mrs clay were the earliest of all their party at the rooms in the evening and as lady do rmo must be waited for they took their station by one of the fires in the Octagon room but hardly were they so settled when the door opened again and Captain Wentworth walked in alone Anne was the nearest to him and making yet a little Advance she instantly spoke he was preparing only to Bow and pass on but her gentle how do you do brought him out of the straight line to stand near her and make inquiries in return in spite of the formidable father and sister in the background there being in the background was a support to Anne she knew nothing of their looks and felt equal to everything which she believed right to be done while they were speaking a whispering between her father and Elizabeth caught her ear she could not distinguish but she must guess the subject and on Captain wentworth's making a distant bow she comprehended that her father had judged so well as to give him that simple acknowledgement of acquaintance and she was just in time by a side glance to see a slight curtsy from Elizabeth herself this though late and reluctant and ungracious was yet better than nothing and her spirits improved after talking however of the weather and bath and the concert their conversation began to flag and so little was said at last that she was expecting him to go every moment but he did not he seemed in no hurry to leave her and presently with renewed spirit with a little smile a little glow he said I have hardly seen you since our day at lime I am afraid you must have suffered from the shock and the more from its not overpowering you at the time she assured him that she had not it was a frightful hour said he a frightful day and he passed his hand across his eyes as if the remembrance was still too painful but in a moment half smiling again added the day has produced some effects however has had some consequences which must be considered as the very reverse of frightful when you had the presence of mind to suggest that benck would be the properest person to fetch a surgeon you could have little idea of his being eventually one of those most concerned in her recovery certainly I could have none but it appears I should hope it would be a very happy match there are on both sides good principles and good temper yes said he looking not exactly forward but there I think ends the resemblance with all my soul I wish them happy and rejoice over every circumstance in favor of it they have no difficulties to contend with at home no opposition no Caprice no delays the musgroves are behaving like themselves most honorably and kindly only anxious with true parental Hearts to promote their daughter's Comfort all this is much very much in favor of their happiness more than perhaps he stopped a sudden recollection seemed to occur and to give him some taste of that emotion which was rening Anne's cheeks and fixing her eyes on the ground after clearing his throat however he proceeded thus I confess that I do think there is a disparity too great a disparity and in a point no less essential than mind I regard Louisa Musgrove as a very amiable sweet tempered girl and not deficient in understanding but benck is something more he is a clever man a reading man and I confess that I do consider his attaching himself to her with some surprise had it been the effect of gratitude ude had he learned to love her because he believed her to be preferring him it would have been another thing but I have no reason to suppose it so it seems on the contrary to have been a perfectly spontaneous untaught feeling on his side and this surprises me a man like him in his situation with a heart pierced wounded almost broken Fanny Harville was a very Superior creature and his attachment to her was indeed attachment a man does not recover from such a devotion of the heart to such a woman he ought not he does not either from the Consciousness however that his friend had recovered or from other Consciousness he went no further and Anne who in spite of the agitated voice in which the latter part had been uttered and in spite of all the various noises of the room the almost ceaseless slam of the door and ceaseless Buzz of persons walking through had distinguished every word was struck gratified confused and beginning to breathe very quick and feel hund things in a moment it was impossible for her to enter on such a subject and yet after a pause feeling the necessity of speaking and having not the smallest wish for a total change she only deviated so far as to say you were a good while at lime I think about a fortnight I could not leave it till Louisa's doing well was ascertained I had been too deeply concerned in the Mischief to be soon at peace it had been my doing solely mine she would not have been obstinate if I had not been weak the country round lime is very fine I walked and rode a great deal and the more I saw the more I found to admire I should very much like to see lime again said Anne indeed I should not have supposed that you could have found anything in nme to inspire such a feeling the horror and distress you were involved in the stretch of mind the wear of spirits I should have thought your last impressions of lime must have been strong disgust the last hours were certainly very painful replied Anne but when pain is over the remembrance of it often becomes a pleasure one does not love a place the less for having suffered in it unless it has been all suffering nothing but suffering which was by no means the case at lime we were only in anxiety and distress during the last 2 hours and previously there had been a great deal of enjoyment so much novelty and Beauty I have traveled so little that every fresh place would be interesting to me but there is real Beauty at lime and in short with a faint blush at some Recollections altogether my impressions of the place are very agreeable as she ceased the entrance door opened again and the Very party appeared for whom they were waiting Lady dmle Lady der rmle was the rejoicing sound and with all the eagerness compatible with anxious Elegance Sir Walter and his two ladies stepped forward to meet her lady der rmle and Miss carrd escorted by Mr Elliot and Colonel Wallace who had happened to arrive nearly at the same instant Advanced into the room the others joined them and it was a group in which Anne found herself also necessarily included she was divided from Captain Wentworth their interesting almost too interesting conversation must be broken up for a time but slight was the Penance compared with the happiness which brought it on she had leared in the last 10 minutes more of his feelings towards Louisa more of all his feelings than she dared to think of and she gave herself up to the demands of the party to the needful civilities of the moment with exquisite though agitated Sensations she was in good humor with all she had received ideas which disposed her to be courteous and kind to all and to pity everyone as being less happy than herself the delightful emotions were a little subdued when on stepping back from the group to be joined Again by Captain Wentworth she saw that he was gone she was just in time to see him turn into the concert room he was gone he had disappeared she felt a moment's regret but they should meet again he would look for her he would find her out before the evening were over as and at present perhaps it was as well to be a sun she was in need of a little interval for recollection upon lady Russel's appearance soon afterwards the whole party was collected and all that remained was to Marshall themselves and proceed into the concert room and be of all the consequence in their power draw as many eyes excite as many Whispers And disturb as many people as they could very very happy were both Elizabeth and Anne Elliot as they walked in Elizabeth arm in-arm with Miss cartret and looking on the broad back of the Dow of I count Testa rimple before her had nothing to wish for which did not seem within her reach and Anne but it would be an insult to the nature of Anne's Felicity to draw any comparison between it and her sisters the origin of one all selfish vanity of the other all generous attachment Anne saw nothing thought nothing of the brilliancy of the room her happiness was from within her eyes were bright and her cheeks glowed but she knew nothing about it she was thinking only of the last half hour and as they passed to their seats her mind took a hasty range over it his choice of subjects his expressions and still more his Manner and look had been such as she could see in only one light his opinion of Louisa musgrove's inferiority an opinion which he had seemed solicitous to give his Wonder at Captain benck his feelings as to a first strong attachment sentences begun which he could not finish his half averted eyes and more than half expressive glance all all declared that he had a heart returning to her at least that anger resentment avoidance were no more and that they were succeeded not merely by friendship and regard but by the tenderness of the past yes some share of the tenderness of the past she could not contemplate the change as implying less he must love her these were Thoughts with their attendant Visions which occupied and flurried her too much to leave her any power of observation and she passed along the room without having a glimpse of him without even trying to discern him when their places were determined on and they were all properly arranged she looked around to see if he should happen to be in the same part of the room but he was not her eye could not reach him and the concert being just opening she must consent for a time to be happy in a humbl way the party was divided and disposed of on two contiguous benches Anne was among those on the foremost and Mr Elliot had maneuvered so well with the assistance of his friend Colonel Wallace as to have a seat by her Miss Elliot surrounded by her cousins and the principal object of Colonel Wallace's gallantry was quite contented Anne's mind was in a most favorable State for the entertainment of the evening it was just occupation enough she had feelings for the tender Spirits for the gay attention for the scientific and patience for the wearisome and had never liked a concert better at least during the first act towards the close of it in the interval succeeding an Italian song she explained the words of the song to Mr Elliot they had a concert Bill between them this said she is nearly the sense or rather the meaning of the words for certainly the sense of an Italian Love Song must not be talked of but it is as nearly the meaning as I can give for I do not pretend to understand the language I'm a very poor Italian scholar yes yes I see you are I see you know nothing of the matter you have only knowledge enough of the language to translate at sight these inverted transposed curtailed Italian lines into clear comprehensible elegant English you need not say anything more of your ignorance here is complete proof I will not oppose such kind politeness but I should be sorry to be examined by a real proficient I have not had the pleasure of visiting en camam place so long replied he without knowing something of Miss Anne Elliot and I do regard her as one who is too modest for the world in general to be aware of half her accomplishments and too highly accomplished for modesty to be natural in any other woman for shame for shame this is too much flattery I forget what we are to have next turning to the bill perhaps said Mr Elliott speaking low I have had a longer acquaintance with your character than you are aware of indeed how so you can have been acquainted with it only since I came to Bath excepting as you might hear me previously spoken of in my own family I Knew You by report long before you came to Bath I had heard you described by those who knew you intimately I have been acquainted with you by character many years your person your disposition accomplishments manner they were all present to me Mr Elliot was not disappointed in the interest he hoped to raise no one can withstand the charm of such a mystery to have been described long ago to a recent acquaintance by nameless people is irresistible and Anne was all curiosity she wanded and questioned him eagerly but in vain he delighted in being asked but he would not tell no no sometime or other perhaps but not now he would mention no names now but such he could assure her had been the fact he had many years ago received such a description of Miss Anne Elliot as had inspired him with the highest idea of her marit and excited the warmest curiosity to know her an could think of no one so likely to have spoken with partiality of her many years ago as the Mr Wentworth of monkford Captain wentworth's brother he might have been in Mr Elliot's company but she had not courage to ask the question the name of Anne Elliot said he has long had an interesting sound to me very long has it possessed a charm over my fancy and if I dared I would Breathe my wishes that the name might never change such she believed were his words but scarcely had she received their sound than her attention was caught by other sounds immediately behind her which rendered everything else trivial her father and Lady dmle were speaking a well-looking man said Sir Walter a very well-looking man a very fine young man indeed said lady dmle more air than one of sees in bath Irish I dare say no I just know his name a Bo acquaintance Wentworth Captain Wentworth of the Navy his sister married my tenant in Somerset the Croft who rents Kellen before Sir Walter had reached this point Anne's eyes had caught the right direction and distinguished Captain Wentworth standing among a cluster of men at a little distance as her eyes fell on him his seemed to be withdrawn from her it had that appearance it seemed as if she had been one moment too late and as long as she dared observe he did not look again but the performance was recommencing and she was forced to seem to restore her attention to the orchestra and look straight forward when she could give another glance he had moved away he could not have come nearer to her if he would she was so surrounded and shut in but she would rather have caught his eye Mr Elliot's speech too distressed her she had no longer any inclination to talk to him she wished him not so near her the First Act was over now she hoped for some beneficial change and after a period of nothing saying amongst the party some of them did decide on going in quest of tea Anne was one of the few who did not choose to move she remained in her seat and so did Lady Russell but she had the pleasure of getting rid of Mr Elliot and she did not mean whatever she might feel on lady Russell's account to shrink from conversation with Captain Wentworth if he gave her the opportunity she was persuaded by Lady Russell's countenance that she had seen him he did not come however Anne sometimes fancied she discerned him at a distance but he never came the anxious interval wore away unproductively the others returned the room filled again benches were reclaimed and repossessed and another hour of pleasure or of penance was to be sat out another hour of music was to give Delight or the gapes as real or affected taste for it prevailed to Anne it chiefly wore the prospect of an hour of agitation she could not quit that room in peace without seeing Captain Wentworth once more without The Interchange of one friendly look in resettling themselves there were now many changes the result of which was favorable for her Colonel Wallace declined sitting down again and Mr Elliot was invited by Elizabeth and Miss cartrid in a manner not to be refused to sit between them and by some other removals and a little scheming of her own Anne was enabl to place herself much nearer the end of the bench than she had been before much more Within Reach of a passer by she could not do so without comparing herself with Miss LOL the inimitable Miss LOL but still she did it and not with much happier effect though by what seemed prosperity in the shape of an early abdication in her next neighbors she found herself at the very end of the bench before the concert closed such was her situation with a vacant space at hand when Captain Wentworth was again in sight she saw him not far off he saw her too yet he looked grave and seemed irresolute and only by very slow degrees came at last near enough to speak to her she felt that something must be the matter the change was indubitable the difference between his present air and what it had been in the Octagon room was strikingly clear why was it she thought of her father of Lady Russell could there have been any unpleasant glances he began by speaking of the concert Gravely more like the captain Wentworth of uppercross owned himself disappointed had expected sing and in short must confess that he should not be sorry when it was over Anne replied and spoke in defense of the performance so well and yet in allowance for his feelings so pleasantly that his countenance improved and he replied again with almost a smile they talked for a few minutes more the Improvement held he even looked down towards the bench as if he saw a place on it well worth occupying when at that moment a touch on her shoulder obliged Anne to turn around it came from Mr Elliot he begged her pardon but she must be applied to to explain Italian again miss cartret was very anxious to have a general idea of what was next to Be Sung an could not refuse but never had she sacrificed her politeness with a more suffering Spirit a few minutes though as few as possible were inevitably consumed and when her own mistress again when able to turn and look as she had done before she found herself accosted by Captain Wentworth in a reserved yet hurried sort of farewell he must wish her good night he was going he should get home as fast as he could is not this song worth staying for said Anne suddenly struck by an idea which made her yet more anxious to be encouraging no he replied impressively there is nothing worth my staying for and he was gone directly jealousy of Mr Elliot it was the only intelligible motive Captain Wentworth jealous of her affection could she have believed it a week ago 3 hours ago for a moment the gratification was Exquisite but alas there were very very different thoughts to succeed how was such jealousy to be quieted how was the truth to reach him how in all the peculiar disadvantages of their respective situations would he ever learn of her real sentiments it was misery to think of Mr Elliot's attentions their evil was incalculable end of chapter 20 part one of chapter 21 of persuasion this LibriVox record recing is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 21 part 1 Anne recollected with pleasure the next morning her promise of going to Mrs Smith meaning that it should engage her from home at the time when Mr Elliot would be most likely to call for to avoid Mr Elliot was almost a first object she felt a great deal of Goodwill towards him in spite of the Mischief of his attentions she owed him gratitude and regard hard perhaps compassion she could not help thinking much of the extraordinary circumstances attending their acquaintance of the right which he seemed to have to interest her by everything in situation by his own sentiment by his early prepossession it was all together very extraordinary flattering but painful there was much to regret how she might have felt had there been no Captain Wentworth in the case was not worth inquiry for there was a captain Wentworth and be the conclusion of the present suspense good or bad her affection would be his forever their Union she believed could not divide her more from other men than their final separation pretty amusings of high rought love and eternal constancy could never have passed along the streets of bath than Anne was sporting with from Camden Place to Westgate buildings it was almost enough to spread purification and perfume all the way she was sure of a pleasant reception and her friend seemed this morning particularly obliged to her for coming seemed hardly to have expected her though it had been an appointment an account of the concert was immediately claimed and Anne's Recollections of the concert were quite happy enough to animate her features and make her Rejoice to talk of it all that she could tell she told most gladly but the all was little for one who had been there and unsatisfactory for such an Inquirer as Mrs Smith who had already heard through the shortcut of a laundress and a waiter rather more of the general success and produ of the evening than an could relate and who now asked in vain for several particulars of the company everybody of any consequence or notoriety in bath was well known by name to Mrs Smith the little Durand were there I conclude she said with their mouths open to catch the music like unfledged sparrows ready to be fed they never miss a concert yes I did not see them myself but I heard Mr Elliot say they were in the room the ibbitson were they there and the two new Beauties with the tall Irish officer who was talked of for one of them I do not know I do not think they were old lady Mary mlan I need not ask after her she never misses I know and you must have seen her she must have been in your own Circle for as you went with Lady dur rmle you were in the seats of grandeur around the orchestra of course no that was what I dreaded it would have been very unpleasant to me in every respect but happily lady dmle always chooses to be farther off and we were exceedingly well placed that is for hearing I must not say for seeing because I appear to have seen very little oh you saw enough for your own Amusement I can understand there is a sort of domestic enjoyment to be known even in a crowd and this you had you were a large party in yourselves and you wanted nothing Beyond but I ought to have looked about me more said Anne conscious while she spoke that there had in fact been no want of looking about that the object only had been deficient no no you were better employed you need not tell tell me that you had a pleasant evening I see it in your eye I perfectly see how the hours passed that you always had something agreeable to listen to in the intervals of the concert it was conversation Anne half smiled and said do you see that in my eye yes I do your countenance perfectly informs me that you were in company last night with the person whom you think the most agreeable in the world the person who interests you at this present time more than all the rest of the world put together a blush overspread Anne's cheeks she could say nothing and such being the case continued Mrs Smith after a short pause I hope you believe that I do know how to value your kindness in coming to me this morning it is really very good of you to come and sit with me when you must have so many pleasanter demands upon your time Anne heard nothing of this she was still in astonishment and confusion excited by her friend's penetration unable to imagine how any report of Captain Wentworth could have reached her after another short silence pray said Mrs Smith is Mr Elliot aware of your acquaintance with me does he know that I am in bath Mr Elliot replied Anne looking up surprised a moment's reflection showed her the mistake she had been under she caught it instantaneously and recovering her courage with the feeling of safety soon added more composedly are you acquainted with Mr Elliot I have been a good deal acquainted with him replied Mrs Smith Gravely but it seems worn out now it is a great while since we met I was not at all aware of this you never mentioned it before had I known it I would have had the pleasure of talking to him about you to confess the truth said Mrs Smith assuming her usual air of cheerfulness that is exactly the pleasure I want you to have I want you to talk about me to Mr Elliot I want your interest with him he can be of essential service to me and if you would have the goodness My Dear Miss Elliot to make it an object to yourself of course it is done I should be extremely happy I hope you cannot doubt my willingness to be of even the slightest use to you replied Anne but I suspect that you are considering me as having a higher claim on Mr Elliot a greater right to influence him than is really the case I am sure you have somehow or other em bibed such a notion you must consider me only as Mr Elliot's relation if in that light there is anything which you suppose his cousin might fairly ask of him I beg you would not hesitate to employ me Mrs Smith gave her a penetrating glance and then smiling said I have been a little premature I perceive I beg your pardon I ought to have waited for official information but now my dear Miss Elliott as an old friend do give me a hint as to when I may speak next week to be sure by next week I may be allowed to think it all settled and build my own selfish schemes on Mr Elliot's Good Fortune no replied Anne nor next week nor next nor next I assure you that nothing of the sort you are thinking of will be settled any week I am not going to marry Mr Elliot I should like to know why you imagine I am Mrs Smith looked at her again looked earnestly smiled shook her head and exclaimed now how I do wish I understood you how I do wish I knew what you were at I have a great idea that you do not design to be cruel when the right moment occurs till it does come you know we women never mean to have anybody it is a thing of course Among Us that every man is refused till he offers but why should you be cruel let me plead for my present friend I cannot call him but for my former friend where can you look for a more suitable match where could you expect a more gentlemanlike agreeable man let me recommend Mr Elliot I am sure you hear nothing but good of him from Colonel Wallace and who can know him better than Colonel Wallace My Dear Mrs Smith Mr Elliott's wife has not been dead much above half a year he ought not to be supposed to be paying his addresses to anyone oh if these are your only objections cried Mrs Smith archly Mr Elliot is safe and I shall give myself no more trouble about him do not forget me when you are married that's all let him know me to be a friend of yours and then he will think little of the trouble required which it is very natural for him now with so many Affairs and engagements of his own to avoid and get rid of as he can very natural perhaps 99 out of 100 would do the same of course he cannot be aware of the importance to me well my dear Miss Elliot I hope and trust you will be very happy Mr Elliott has sense to understand the value of such a woman your peace will not be Shipwrecked as mine has been you are safe in all worldly matters and safe in his character he will not be led astray he will not be misled by others to his ruin no said Anne I can readily believe all that of my cousin he seems to have a a calm decided temper not at all open to dangerous Impressions I consider him with great respect I have no reason from anything that has fallen within my observation to do otherwise but I have not known him long and he is not a man I think to be known intimately soon will not this manner of speaking of him Mrs Smith convince you that he is nothing to me surely this must be calm enough and upon my word he is nothing to me should he ever propose to me which I have very little reason to imagine he has any thought of doing I shall not accept him I assure you I shall not I assure you Mr Elliot had not the share which you have been supposing in whatever pleasure the concert of last night might afford not Mr Elliot it is not Mr Elliot that she stopped regretting with a deep blush that she had implied so much but less would hardly have been sufficient Mrs Smith would hardly have believed so soon in Mr Elliot's failure but for from the perception of there being as somebody else as it was she instantly submitted and with all the semblance of seeing nothing Beyond and Anne eager to escape farther notice was impatient to know why Mrs Smith should have fancied she was to marry Mr Elliot where she could have received the idea or from whom she could have heard it do tell me how it first came into your head it first came into my head replied Mrs Smith upon finding how much you were together and feeling it to be the most probable thing in the world to be wished for by everybody belonging to either of you and you may depend upon it that all your acquaintance have disposed of you in the same way but I never heard it spoken of till 2 days ago and has it indeed been spoken of Did You observe the woman who opened the door to you when you called yesterday no was it not Mrs speed as usual or the maid I observed no one in particular it was my friend Mrs Rook nurse Rook who by the by had a great curiosity to see you and was delighted to be in the the way to let you in she came away from marbor buildings only on Sunday and she it was who told me you were to marry Mr Elliot she had had it from Mrs Wallace herself which did not seem bad Authority she sat an hour with me on Monday evening and gave me the whole history the whole history repeated Anne laughing she could not make a very long history I think of one such little article of unfounded news Mrs Smith said nothing but continued Anne presently though there is no truth in my having this claim on Mr Elliot I should be extremely happy to be of use to you in any way that I could shall I mention to him your being in bath shall I take any message no I thank you no certainly not in the warmth of the moment and under a mistaken impression I might perhaps have endeavored to interest you in some circumstances but not now no I thank you I have nothing to trouble you with I think you spoke of having known Mr Elliot many years I did not before he was married I suppose yes he was not married when I knew him first and you were much acquainted intimately indeed then do tell me what he was at that time of life I have a great curiosity to know what Mr Elliot was as a very young man was he at all such as he appears now I have not seen Mr Elliot these three years was Mrs Smith's answer given so Gravely that it was impossible to pursue the subject father and Anne felt that she had gained nothing but an increase of curiosity they were both silent Mrs Smith very thoughtful At Last I beg your pardon my dear Miss Elliot she cried in her natural tone of cordiality I beg your pardon for the short answers I have been giving you but I have been uncertain what I ought to do I have been doubting and considering as to what I ought to tell you there were many things to be taken into the account one hates to be officious to be giving B mad Impressions making Mischief even the smooth surface of family Union seems worth preserving though there may be nothing durable beneath however I have determined I think I am right I think you ought to be made acquainted with Mr Elliot's real character though I fully believe that at present you have not the smallest intention of accepting him there is no saying what may happen you might some time or other be differently affected towards him hear the truth therefore now while you are unprejudiced Mr Elliot is a man without heart or conscience a designing weary coldblooded being who thinks only of himself whom for his own interest or ease would be guilty of any cruelty or any treachery that could be perpetrated without risk of his General character he has no feeling for others Those whom he has been the chief cause of leading into ruin he can neglect and desert without the smallest compunction he is totally beyond the reach of of any sentiment of Justice or compassion oh he is black at heart Hollow and black Anne's astonished air and exclamation of Wonder made her pause and in a calmer manner she added my Expressions startle you you must allow for an injured angry woman but I will try to command myself I will not abuse him I will only tell you what I have found him fact shall speak he was the intimate friend of my dear husband who trusted and loveed him and thought him as good as himself the intimacy had been formed before our marriage I found them most intimate friends and I too became excessively pleased with Mr Elliot and entertained the highest opinion of him at 19 you know one does not think very seriously but Mr Elliot appeared to me quite as good as others and much more agreeable than most others and we were almost always together we were principally in town living in very good style he was then the inferior in circumstances he was then the poor one he had Chambers in the temple and it was as much as he could do to support the appearance of a gentleman he had always a home with us whenever he chose it he was always welcome he was like a brother my poor Charles who had the finest most generous spirit in the world would have divided his last Farthing with him and I know that his purse was open to him I know that he often assisted him this must have been about that very period of Mr Elliot's life said Anne which has always excited my particular particular curiosity it must have been about the same time that he became known to my father and sister I never knew him myself I only heard of him but there was a something in his conduct then with regard to my father and sister and afterwards in the circumstances of his marriage which I never could quite reconcile with present times it seemed to announce a different sort of man I Know It All I Know It All Cried Mrs Smith he had been introduced to Sir Walter and your sister before I was acquainted with him but I heard him speak of them forever I know he was invited and encouraged and I know he did not choose to go I can satisfy you perhaps on points which you would little expect and as to his marriage I knew all about it at the time I was privy to all the fors and againsts I was the friend to whom he confided his hopes and plans and though I did not know his wife previously her inferior situation in society indeed rendered that impossible yet I knew her all her life afterward Ward or at least till within the last two years of her life and can answer any question you may wish to put nay said Anne I have no particular inquiry to make about her I have always understood they were not a happy couple but I should like to know why at that time of his life he should sight my father's acquaintance as he did my father was certainly disposed to take very kind and proper notice of him why did Mr Elliot draw back Mr Elliot replied Mrs Smith at that period of his life had one object in view to make his fortune and by a rather quicker process than the law he was determined to make it by marriage he was determined at least not to Mar it by an imprudent marriage and I know it was his belief whether justly or not of course I cannot decide that your father and sister in their civilities and invitations were designing a match between the heir and the young lady and it was impossible that such a match could have answered his ideas of wealth and Independence that was his motive for drawing back I can assure you he told me the whole story he had no concealments with me it was curious that having just left you behind me in bath my first and principal acquaintance on marrying should be your cousin and that through him I should be continually hearing of your father and sister he described one Miss Elliot and I thought very affectionately of the other perhaps cried Anne struck by a sudden idea you sometimes spoke of me to Mr Elliot to be sure I did very often I used to boast of my own Anne Elliot and vouch for your being a very different creature from she checked herself just in time this accounts for something which Mr Elliott said last night cried Anne this explains it I found he had been used to hear of me I could not comprehend how what wild imaginations one forms where dear self is concerned how sure to be mistaken but I beg your pardon I have interrupted you Mr Elliot married then completely for money the circumstances probably which first opened your eyes to his character Mrs Smith hesitated a little here oh those things are too common when one lives in the world a man or woman's marrying for money is too common to strike one as it ought I was very young and Associated only with the young and we were a thoughtless gay set without any strict rules of conduct we lived for enjoyment I think differently now time and sickness and sorrow have given me other Notions but at that period I must own I saw nothing reprehensible in what Mr Elliot was doing to do the best for himself past as a duty end of chapter 21 part 1 part two of chapter 21 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 21 part two but was she not a very low woman yes which I objected to but he would not regard money money was all he wanted her father was a grazier her grandfather had been a butcher but that was all nothing she was a fine woman had had a decent education was brought forward by some cousins thrown by chance into Mr Elliot's company and fell in love with him and not a difficulty or a scruple was there on his side with respect to her birth all his caution was was bent in being secured of the real amount of he Fortune before he committed himself depend upon it whatever esteem Mr Elliot may have for his own situation in life now as a young man he had not the smallest value for it his chance for the Kellen state was something but all the honor of the family he held as cheap as dirt I have often heard him declare that if baronet SE was sailable anybody should have his for £50 arms and motto name and Livery included but I will not pretend to repeat half that I used to hear him say on that subject it would not be fair and yet you ought to have proof for what is all this but assertion and you shall have proof indeed My Dear Mrs Smith I want none cried Anne you have asserted nothing contradictory to what Mr Elliot appeared to be some years ago this is all confirmation rather of what we used to hear and believe I am more curious to know why he should be so different now but for my satisfaction if you will have the goodness to ring for Mary stay I am sure you will have the still greater goodness of going yourself into my bedroom and bringing me the small inlaid box which you will find on the upper shelf of the closet Anne seeing her friend to be earnestly bent on it did as she was desired the box was brought and placed before her and Mrs Smith sighing over it as she unlocked it said this is full of papers belonging to him to my husband a small portion only of what I had to look over when I lost him the letter I am looking for was written by Mr Elliot to him before our marriage and happened to be save why one can hardly imagine but he was careless and IM methodical like other men about those things and when I came to examine his papers I found it with others still more trivial from different people scattered here and there while many letters and memorandums of real importance had been destroyed here it is I would not burn it because being even then very little satisfied with Mr Elliot I was determined to preserve every document of former intimacy I have now another motive for being glad that I can produce it this was the letter directed to Charles Smith Esquire tumbridge Wells and dated from London as far back as July 1803 dear Smith I have received yours your kindness almost overpowers me I wish nature had made such Hearts as yours more common but I have lived three and 20 years in the world and have seen none like it at present believe me I have no need of your services being in cash again give me joy I have got rid of Sir Walter and Miss they are gone back to Kellen and almost made me swear to visit them this Summer but my first visit to Kellen will be with a surveyor to tell me how to bring it with best advantage to the Hammer the baronette nevertheless is not unlikely to marry again he is quite fool enough if he does however they will leave me in peace which may be a decent equivalent for the reversion he is worse than last year I wish I had any name but Elliot I am sick of it the name of Walter I can drop thank God and I desire you will never insult me with my second W again meaning for the rest of my life to be only yours truly William Elliot such a letter could not be read without putting Anne in a glow and Mrs Smith observing the high color in her face said the language I know is highly disrespectful though I have forgot the exact terms I have a perfect impression of the general meaning but it shows you the man Mark his professions to my poor husband can anything be stronger Anne could not immediately get over the shock and mortification of finding such words applying to her father she was obliged to recollect that her seeing the letter was a violation of the laws of Honor that no one ought to be judged or to be known by such testimonies that no private correspondence could bear the eye of others before she could recover calmness enough to return the letter which she had been meditating over and say thank you this is full proof undoubtedly proof of everything you were saying but why be acquainted with us now I can explain this too cried Mrs Smith smiling can you really yes I have shown you Mr Elliot as he was a dozen years ago and I will show you him as he is now I cannot produce written proof again but I can give as authentic oral testimony as you can desire of what he is now wanting and what he is now doing he is no hypocrite now he truly wants to marry you his present attentions to your family are very sincere quite from the heart I will give you my authority his friend Colonel Wallace Colonel Wallace you were acquainted with him no it does not come to me in quite so direct a line as that it takes a Bend or two but nothing of Consequence the stream is as good as it first the little rubbish it collects in the turnings is easily moved away Mr Elliot talks unreservedly to Colonel Wallace of his views on you which said Colonel Wallace I imagine to be in himself a sensible careful Discerning sort of sort of character but Colonel Wallace has a very pretty silly wife to whom he tells things which he had better not and he repeats it all to her she in the overflowing spirits of her recovery repeats it all to her nurse and the nurse knowing my acquaintance with you very naturally brings it all to me on Monday evening my good friend Mrs Rook led me thus much into the secrets of marbor buildings when I talked of a whole history therefore you see I was not Romancing so much as you supposed my My Dear Mrs Smith your Authority is deficient this will not do Mr Elliott's having any views on me will not in the least account for the efforts he made towards a reconciliation with my father that was all prior to my coming to Bath I found them on the most friendly terms when I arrived I know you did I know it all perfectly but indeed Mrs Smith we must not expect to get real information in such a line facts or opinions which are to pass through the hands of so many to be misconceived by Folly and one and ignorance in another can hardly have much truth left only give me a hearing you will soon be able to judge of the General Credit due by listening to some particulars which you can yourself immediately contradict or confirm nobody supposes that you were his first inducement he had seen you indeed before he came to Bath and admired you but without knowing it to be you so says my historian at least is this true did he see you last summer or Autumn somewhere down in the west to use her own words without knowing it to be you he certainly did so far it is very true at lime I happen to be at lime well continued Mrs Smith triumphantly Grant my friend the credit due to the establishment of the first point asserted he saw you then at lime and liked you so well as to be exceedingly pleased to meet with you again in Camden place as Miss Anne Elliot and from that moment I have no doubt had a double motive in his visits there but there was another and an earlier which I will now explain if if there is anything in my story which you know to be either false or improbable stop me my account states that your sister's friend the lady now staying with you whom I have heard you mention came to bath with Miss Elliot and Sir Walter as long ago as September in short when they first came themselves and has been staying there ever since that she is a clever insinuating handsome woman poor and plausible and altogether such in situation and manner as to give a general idea among W's acquaintance of her meaning to be lady Elliot and as a general surprise that Miss Elliot should be apparently blind to the danger here Mrs Smith paused a moment but Anne had not a word to say and she continued this was the light in which it appeared to those who knew the family long before you returned to it and Colonel Wallace had his eye upon your father enough to be sensible of it though he did not then visit en Campton place but his regard for Mr Elliot gave him an interest in watching all that was going on there and when Mr Elliot came to bath for a day or two as he happened to do a little before Christmas Colonel Wallace made him acquainted with the appearance of things and the reports beginning to Prevail now you are to understand that the time had worked a very material change in Mr Elliot's opinions as to the value of aaroncy upon All Points of blood and connection he is a completely altered man having long had as much money as he could spend nothing to wish for on the side of avarice or Indulgence he has been gradually learning to pin his happiness upon the consequence he is a to I thought it coming on before our acquaintance ceased but it is now a confirmed feeling he cannot bear the idea of not being Sir William you may guess therefore that the news he heard from his friend could not be very agreeable and you may guess what it produced the resolution of coming back to Bath as soon as possible and of fixing himself here for a time with the view of renewing his former acquaintance and recovering such a footing in the family as might give him the means of ascertaining the degree of his danger and of circumventing the lady if he found it material this was agreed upon between the two friends as the only thing to be done and Colonel Wallace was to assist in every way that he could he was to be introduced and Mrs Wallace was to be introduced and everybody was to be introduced Mr Elliot came back accordingly and on application was forgiven as you know and readmitted into the family and there it was his constant object and his only object till your arrival added another motive to watch Sir Walter and Mrs clay he omitted no opportunity of being with them threw himself in their way called at all hours but I need not be particular on this subject you can imagine what an Artful man would do and with this guide perhaps May recollect what you have seen him do yes said Anne you tell me nothing which does not Accord with what I have known or could imagine there is always something offensive in the details of cunning the maneuvers of selfishness and duplicity must ever be revolting but I have heard nothing which really surprises me I know those who would be shocked by such a representation of Mr Elliot who would have difficulty in believing it but I have never been satisfied I have always wanted some other motive for his conduct than appeared I should like to know his present opinion as to the probability of the event he has been in dread of whether he considers the danger to be lessening or not lessening I understand replied Mrs Smith he thinks Mrs clay afraid of him aware that he sees through her and not daring to proceed as she might do in his absence but since he must be absent sometime or other I do not perceive how he can ever be secure while she holds her present influence Mrs Wallace has an amusing idea as nurse tells me that it is to be put into the marriage articles when you and Mr Elliot marry that your father is not to marry Mrs clay a scheme worthy of Mrs Wallace's understanding by all accounts but my sensible nurse Rook sees the absurdity of it why to be sure ma'am she said it would not prevent his marrying anybody else and indeed to own the truth I do not think nurse in her heart is a very strenuous opposer of Sir Walter's making a second match she must be allowed to be a favor of matrimony you know and sin self will intrude who can say that she may not have some flying visions of attending the next lady Elliot through Mrs Wallace's recommendation I am very glad to know all this said Anne after a little thoughtfulness it will be more painful to me in some respects to be in company with him but I shall know better what to do my line of conduct will be more direct Mr Elliot is evidently a disingenuous artificial worldly man who has never had any better principle to guide him than selfishness but Mr Elliot was not done with Mrs Smith had been carried away from her first Direction and Anne had forgotten in the interest of her own family concerns how much had been originally implied against him but her atten attention was now called to the explanation of those first hints and she listened to a recital which if it did not perfectly justify the unqualified bitterness of Mrs Smith proved him to have been very unfeeling in his conduct towards her very deficient both in Justice and compassion she learned that the intimacy between them continuing unimpaired by Mr Elliot's marriage they had been as before always together and Mr Elliot had led his friend into expenses much Beyond his fortune Mrs Smith did not want to take blame to herself and was most tender of throwing any on her husband but Anne could collect that their income had never been equal to their style of living and that from the first there had been a great deal of general and Joint extravagance from his wife's account of him she could discern Mr Smith to have been a man of warm feelings easy temper careless habits and not strong understanding much more amiable than his friend and very unlike him led by him and probably despised by him Mr Elliot raised by his marriage to Great affluence and disposed to every gratification of pleasure and vanity which could be commanded without involving himself for with all his self-indulgence he had become a prudent man and beginning to be rich just as his friend ought to have found himself to be poor seemed to have had no concern at all for that friend's probable finances but on the contrary had been prompting and encouraging expenses which could only end in ruin and the Smiths accordingly had been ruined the husband had died just in time to spared the full knowledge of it they had previously known embarrassments enough to try the Friendship of their friends and to prove that Mr Elliots had better not be tried but it was not till his death that The Wretched state of his Affairs was fully known with the confidence in Mr Elliot's regard more creditable to his feelings than his judgment Mr Smith had appointed him the executive of his will but Mr Elliot would not act and the difficulties and distress which this refusal had heaped on her in addition to the inevitable suffering of her situation had been such as could not be related without anguish of spirit or listened to without corresponding indignation Anne was shown some letters of his on the occasion answers to Urgent applications from Mrs Smith which all breathed the same Stern resolution of not engaging in a fruitless trouble and under a cold civility the same hard-hearted indifference to any of the evils it might bring on her it was a dreadful picture of ingratitude and inhumanity and Anne felt at some moment that no flagrant open Crime could have been worse she had a great deal to listen to all the particulars of past sad scenes all the minua of distress upon distress which in former conversations had been merely hinted at were dwelt on Now with a natural Indulgence Anne could perfectly comprehend the Exquisite relief and was only the more inclined to wonder at the composure of her friend's usual state of mind there was one circumstance in the history of her grievances of particular irritation she had good reason to believe that some property of her husband in the West Indies which had been for many years under a sort of sequestration for the payment of its own incumbrances might be recoverable by proper measures and this property though not large would be enough to make a comparatively rich but there was nobody to stir in it Mr Elliot would do nothing and she could do nothing herself equally disabled from personal exertion by her state of bodily weakness and from employing others by her want of money she had no natural connections to her sister even with their counsel and she could not afford to purchase the assistance of the law this was a cruel aggravation of actually straightened means to feel that she ought to be in better circumstances that a little trouble in the right place might do it and to fear that delay might be even weakening her claims was hard to Bear it was on this point that she had hoped to engage Anne's good offices with Mr Elliot she had previously in the anticipation of their marriage been very apprehensive of losing her friend by it but on being assured that he could have made no attempt of that nature since he did not even know her to be in bath it immediately occurred that something might be done in her favor by the influence of the woman he loved and she had been hastily preparing to interest Anne's feelings as far as the observances due to Mr Elliot's character would allow when Anne's reputation of the supposed engagement changed the face of everything and while it took from her the new formed hope of succeeding in the object of her first anxiet y left her at least the comfort of telling the whole story her own way after listening to this full description of Mr Elliot Anne could not but express some surprise at Mrs Smith's having spoken of him so favorably in the beginning of their conversation she had seemed to recommend and praise him my dear was Mrs Smith's reply there was nothing else to be done I considered your marrying him a certain though he might not yet have made the offer and I could no more speak the truth of him than if he had been your husband my heart bled for you as I talked of happiness and yet he is sensible he is agreeable and with such a woman as you it was not absolutely hopeless he was very unkind to his first wife they were wretched together but she was too ignorant and giddy for respect and he had never loved her I was willing to hope that you must fear better Anne could just acknowledge within herself such a possibility of having been induced to marry him as made her shudder at the idea of the misery which must have followed it was just possible that she might have been persuaded by Lady Russell and under such a supposition which would have been most miserable when time had disclosed all too late it was very desirable that lady Russell should be no longer deceived and one of the concluding Arrangements of this important conference which carried them through the greater part of the morning was that Anne had full Liberty to communicate to her friend everything relative to Mrs Smith in which his conduct was involved end of chapter 21 part one of chapter 22 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 22 part one Anne went home to think over all that she had heard in one point her feelings were relieved by this knowledge of Mr Elliot there was no longer anything of tenderness due to him he stood as AOS to captain windworth in all his own unwelcome obtrusiveness and the evil of his attentions last night the IR remediable Mischief he might have done was considered with Sensations unqualified unpleased pity for him was all over but this was the only point of relief in every other respect in looking around her or penetrating forward she saw more to distrust and to apprehend she was concerned for the disappointment and pain lady Russell would be feeling for the mortifications which must be hanging over her father and sister and had all the distress of foreseeing many evils without knowing how to avert any one of them she was most thankful for her own knowledge of him she had never considered herself as entitled to reward for not slighting an old friend like Mrs Smith but here was a reward indeed springing from it Mrs Smith had been able to tell her what no one else could have done could the knowledge have been extended through her family but this was a vain idea she must talk to Lady Russell tell her consult with her and having done her best wait the event with as much composure as possible and after all her greatest want of composure would be in that quarter of the mind which could not be open to Lady Russell in that flow of anxieties and fears which must be all to herself she found on reaching home that she had as she intended escaped seeing Mr Elliot that he had called and paid them a long morning visit but hardly had she congratulated herself and felt safe when she heard that he was coming again in the evening I had not the smallest intention of asking him said Elizabeth with affected carelessness but he gave so many hints so Mrs clay says at least indeed I do say it I never saw anybody in my life spell harder for an invitation poor man I was really in pain for him for your hard-hearted sister Miss Anne seems bent on cruelty oh cried Elizabeth I have been rather too much used to the game to be soon overcome by a gentleman's hints however when I found how excessively he was regretting that he should miss my father this morning I gave away immediately for I would never really omit an opportunity of bringing him and S water together they appeared to so much advantage in company with each other each behaving so pleasantly Mr Elliot looking up with so much respect quite delightful cried Mrs clay not daring however to turn her eyes towards Anne exactly like Father and Son Dear Miss Elliot may I not say father and son oh I lay no embargo on anybody's words if you will have such ideas but upon my word I am scarcely sensible of his attentions being Beyond those of other men My Dear Miss Elliot exclaimed Mrs clay lifting her hands and eyes and sinking all the rest of her astonishment in a convenient silence well my dear Penelope you need not be so alarmed about him I did invite him you know I sent him away with smiles when I found he was really going to his friends at Thornbury park for the whole day tomorrow I had compassion on him Anne admired the good acting of the friend in being able to show such pleasure as she did in the expectation and in the actual arrival of the very person whose presence must really be interfering with her prime object it was impossible but that Mrs clay must hate the sight of Mr Elliot and yet she could assume a most obliging Placid look and appear quite satisfied with the ciled license of devoting herself only half as much to Sir Walter as she would have done otherwise to Anne herself it was most distressing to see Mr Elliot enter the room and quite painful to have him approach and speak to her she had been used before to feel that he could not be always quite sincere but now she saw insincerity in everything his attentive deference to her father contrasted with his former language was odious and when she thought of his cruel conduct towards Mrs Smith she could hardly bear the sight of his present smiles and mind wildness or the sound of his artificial good sentiments she meant to avoid any such alteration of manners as might provoke a remonstrance on his side it was a great object to her to escape all inquiry or a clap but it was her intention to be as decidedly cool to him as might be compatible with their relationship and to retrace as quietly as she could the few steps of unnecessary intimacy she had been gradually LED along she was accordingly more guarded and more cool than she had been the night before for he wanted to animate her curiosity again as to how and where he could have heard her formerly praised wanted very much to be gratified by more solicitation but the charm was broken he found that the Heat and animation of a public room was necessary to Kindle his modest cousin's vanity he found at least that it was not to be done now by any of those attempts which he could Hazard among the two commanding claims of the others he little surmised that it was a subject acting now EX exactly against his interest bringing immediately to her thoughts all those parts of his conduct which were least excusable she had some satisfaction in finding that he was really going out of bath the next morning going early and that he would be gone the greater part of 2 days he was invited again to Camden Place the very evening of his return but from Thursday to Saturday evening his absence was certain it was bad enough that a Mrs clay should be always before her but that a deeper hypocrite should be added to their party seemed the destruction of everything like peace and comfort it was so humiliating to reflect on the constant deception practiced on her father and Elizabeth to consider the various sources of mortification preparing for them Mrs Clay's selfishness was not so complicate nor so revolting as his and an would have compounded for the marriage at once with all its evils to be clear of Mr Elliot's subtleties in endeavoring to prevent it on Friday morning she meant to go very early to Lady Russell and accomplish the necessary communication and she would have gone directly after breakfast but that Mrs clay was also going out on some obliging purpose of saving her sister trouble which determined her to wait till she might be safe from such a companion she saw Mrs clay fairly off therefore before she began to talk of spending the morning in River Street very well said Elizabeth I have nothing to send but my love oh you may as well take back that tiresome book she would lend me and pretend I have read it through I really cannot be plaguing myself forever with all the new poems and states of the nation that come out lady Russell quite bores one with her new Publications you need not tell her so but I thought her dress hideous the other night I used to think she had some taste in dress but I was ashamed of her at the concert something so formal and arranged in her air and she sits so upright my best love of course and mine added s Walter kindest regards and you may say that I mean to call upon her soon make a civil message but I shall only leave my card morning visits are never fair by women at her time of life who make themselves up so little if she would only wear Rouge she would not be afraid of being seen but last time I called I observed the blinds were let down immediately while her father spoke there was a knock at the door who could it be Anne remembering the preconcerted visits at all hours of Mr Elliot would have expected him but for his known engagement 7even miles off after the usual period of suspense the usual sounds of approach were heard and M Mr and Mrs Charles Musgrove were ushered into the room surprise was the strongest emotion raised by their appearance but Anne was really glad to see them and the others were not so sorry but that they could put on a decent air of welcome and as soon as it became clear that these their nearest relations were not arrived with any views of accommodation in that house so Walter and Elizabeth were able to rise in cordiality and do the honors of it very well they were come to bath for a few days with Mrs Musgrove and were at the white heart so much was pretty soon understood but till Sir Walter and Elizabeth were walking Mary into the other drawing room and regaling themselves with her admiration Anne could not draw upon Charles's brain for a regular history of their coming or an explanation of some smiling hints of particular business which had been ostentatiously dropped by Mary as well as of some apparent confusion as to whom their party consisted of she then found that it consisted of Mrs Musgrove Henrietta and Captain Harville beside their two selves he gave her a very plain intelligible account of the whole a narration in which she saw a great deal of most characteristic proceeding the scheme had received its first impulse by Captain Harv's wanting to come to Bath on business he had begun to talk of it a week ago and by way of doing something as shooting was over Charles had proposed coming with him and Mrs haril had seemed to like the idea of it very much as in advantage to her husband but Mary could not bear to be left and had made herself so unhappy about it that for a day or two everything seemed to be in suspense or at an end but then it had been taken up by his father and mother his mother had some old friends in bath whom she wanted to see it was thought a good opportunity for Henrietta to come and buy wedding clothes for herself and her sister and in short it ended in being his mother's party that everything might be comfortable and easy to Captain Harville and he and Mary were included in it by way of General convenience they had arrived late the night before Mrs Harville her children and Captain benck remained with Mr Musgrove and Louisa at uppercross an's only surprise was that affair should be in forwardness enough for henrietta's wedding clothes to be talked of she had imagined such difficulties of Fortune to exist there as must prevent the marriage from being near at hand but she learned from Charles that very recently since Mary's last letter to herself Charles hater had been applied to by a friend to hold a living for a youth who could not possibly claim it under many years and that on the strength of his Pres income with almost a certainty of something more permanent long before the term in question the two families had consented to the young people's wishes and that their marriage was likely to take place in a few months quite as soon as Louisa's and a very good living it was Charles added only 5 and 120 mi from uppercross and in a very fine country fine part of dorsetshire in the center of some of the best preserves in the Kingdom surrounded by three great Proprietors each more careful and jealous than the other and to two of the three at least Charles hater might get get a special recommendation not that he will value it as he ought he observed Charles is too cool about sporting that's the worst of him I am extremely glad indeed cried Anne particularly glad that this should happen and that of Two Sisters who Both Deserve equally well and who have always been such good friends the pleasant Prospect of one should not be dimming those of the other that they should be so equal in their prosperity and comfort I hope your father and mother are quite happy with regard to both oh yes my father would be well pleased if the gentleman were richer but he has no other fault to find money you know coming down with money two daughters at once it cannot be a very agreeable operation and it straightens him as to many things however I do not mean to say that they have not a right to it it is very fit they should have daughters shares and I am sure he has always been a very kind liberal father to me Mary ises not above half like henrietta's match she never did you know but she does not do him Justice nor think enough about Winthrop I cannot make her attend to the value of of the property it is a very fair match as times go and I have liked Charles hater all my life and I shall not leave off now such excellent parents as Mr and Mrs Musgrove exclaimed Anne should be happy in their children's marriages they do everything to confer happiness I am sure what a blessing to young people to be in such hands your father and mother seem so totally free from all those ambitious feelings which have led to so much misconduct and misery both in young and old I hope you think Louisa perfectly recovered now he answered rather hesitatingly yes I believe I do very much recovered but she is altered there is no running or jumping about no laughing or dancing it is quite different if one happens only to shut the door a little hard she starts and wriggles like a young dab chick in the water and benck sits at her elbow reading verses or whispering to her all day long and could not help laughing that cannot be much to your taste I know said she but I do believe him to be an excellent young man to be sure he is nobody doubts it and I hope you do not think I am so a liberal as to want every man to have the same objects and Pleasures as myself I have a great value for benck and when one can but get him to talk he has plenty to say his reading has done him no harm for he is fought as well as red He's a brave fellow I got more acquainted with him last Monday than ever I did before we had a famous set to at rat hunting all the morning in my father's great Barns and he played his part so well that I have liked him the better ever since here they were interrupted by the absolute necessity of Charles's following the others to admire mirrors in China but Anne had heard enough to understand the present state of uppercross and rejoice in its happiness and though she sighed as she rejoiced her sigh had none of the ill will of Envy in it she would certainly have risen to Their Blessings if she could but she did not want to lessen theirs the visit passed off alt together in high Good Humor Mary was in excellent Spirits enjoying the gayety and the change and so well satisfied with the journey and her mother-in-law's Carriage with four horses and with her own complete independence of Camden place that she was exactly in a temper to admire everything as she ought and enter most readily into all the superiorities of the house as they were detailed to her she had no demands on her father or sister and her consequence was just enough increased by their handsome drawing rooms Elizabeth was for a short time suffering a good deal she felt that Mrs Musgrove and all her party ought to be asked to dine with them but she could not bear to have the difference of style the reduction of servants which a dinner must betray witnessed by those who had always been so inferior to the elots of Kellen it was a struggle between propriety and vanity but vanity got the better and then Elizabeth was happy again these were her internal Persuasions old-fashioned Notions country Hospitality we do not profess to give dinners few people in bath do lady Alicia never does did not even ask her own sister's family though they were here a month and I dare say would be very inconvenient to Mrs Musgrove put her quite out of her way I am sure she would rather not come she cannot feel easy with us I will ask them all for an evening that will do much better that will be a novelty and a treat they have not seen two such drawing rooms before they will be delighted to come tomorrow evening it shall be a regular party small but most elegant and this satisfied Elizabeth and when the invitation was given to the two present and promised for the absent Mary was as completely satisfied she was particularly asked to meet Mr Elliot and be introduced to Lady Dar rmle and Miss carrid who were fortunately already engaged to come and she could not have received a more gratifying attention Miss Elliot was to have the honor of calling on Mrs Musgrove in the course of the morning and Anne walked off with Charles and Mary to go and see her in Henrietta directly end of chapter 22 part 1 part two of chapter 22 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 22 part two her plan of sitting with Lady Russell must give way for the present they all three called him River Street for a couple of minutes but Anne convinced herself that a day's delay of the intended communication could be of no consequence and hastened forward to the wide heart to see again the friends and Companions of the last Autumn with an eagerness of good will which many associations contributed to form they found Mrs Musgrove and her daughter within and by themselves and Anne had the kindest welcome from each Henrietta was exactly in that state of recently improved views of fresh formed happiness which made her full of regard and interest for everybody she had ever liked before at all and Mrs musgrove's real affection had been won by her usefulness when they were in distress it was a heartiness and a warmth and a sincerity which Anne delighted in the more from the sad want of such blessings at home she was intreated to give them as much of her time as possible invited for every day and all day long or rather claimed as part of the family and in return she naturally fell into all her wanted ways of attention and assistance and on Charles's leaving them together was listening to Mrs musgrove's history of Louisa and to henrietta's of herself giving opinions on business and recommendations to shops with intervals of every help which Mary required from all in her ribbon to settling her accounts from finding her keys and assorting her trinkets to trying to convince her that she was not ill used by anybody which Mary well amused as she generally was in her station at a window overlooking the entrance to the pump room could not but have her moments of imagining a morning of thorough confusion was to be expected a large party in an Hotel ensured a quick changing unsettled scene one five minutes brought a note the next a parcel and Anne had not been there half an hour when there dining room spacious as it was seemed more than half filled a party of steady old friends were seated around Mrs Musgrove and Charles came back with captains Harville and Wentworth the appearance of the latter could not be more than the surprise of the moment it was impossible for her to have forgotten to feel that this arrival of their common friends must be soon bringing them together again their last meeting had been most important in opening his feelings she had derived from it a delightful conviction but she feared from his looks that the same unfortunate persuasion which had hastened him away from the concert room still governed he did not seem to want to be near enough for conversation she tried to be calm and leave things to take their course and try to dwell much on this argument of rational dependence surely if there be constant attachment on each side our hearts must understand each other air long we are not boy and girl to be captious irritable misled by every moment's inadvertence and wly playing with our own happiness and yet a few minutes afterwards she felt as if there being in company with each other under the present circumstances could only be exposing them to inadvertency and misconstructions of the most mischievous kind Anne cried Mary still at her window there is Mrs clay I am sure standing under the colonade and a gentleman with her I saw them turn the corner from Bath Street just now they seemed deep in talk who is it come and tell me good Heavens I recollect it is Mr Elliot himself no cried an quickly it cannot be Mr Elliot I assure you he was to leave bath at 9: this morning and does not come back till tomorrow as she spoke she felt that Captain Wentworth was looking at her the consciousness of which vexed and embarrassed her and made her regret that she had said so much simple as it was Mary resenting that she should be supposed not to know her own cousin began talking very warmly about the family features and protesting still more positively that it was Mr Elliot calling again upon Anne to come and look for herself but Anne did not mean to stir and tried to be cool and unconcerned her distress returned however on perceiving smiles and intelligent glances passed between two or three of the lady visitors as if they believed themselves quite in the secret it was evident that the report concerning her had spread and a short pause succeeded which seemed to ensure that it would now spread further do come Anne cried Mary come and look yourself you will be too late if you do not make haste they are parting they are shaking hands he is turning away not no Mr Elliot indeed you seem to have forgot all about lime to pacify Mary and perhaps screen her own embarrassment an did move quietly to the window she was just in time to ascertain that it really was Mr Elliot which she had never believed before he disappeared on one side as Mrs clay walked quickly off on the other and checking the surprise which she could not but feel at such an appearance of friendly conference between two persons of totally opposite interest she calmly said yes it is Mr Elliot certainly he has changed his hour of going I suppose that is all or I may be mistaken I might not attend and walked back to her chair recomposed and with the comfortable hope of having acquitted herself well the visitors took their leave and Charles having civil seen them off and then made a face at them and abused them for coming began with well mother I have done something for you that you will like I have been to the theater and secured a box for tomorrow night aren't I a good boy I know you love a play and there is room for us all it holds nine I have engaged Captain Wentworth Anne will not be sorry to join us I am sure we all like a play have not I done well mother Mrs Musgrove was good humoredly beginning to express her perfect Readiness for the play if Henrietta and all the others liked it when Mary eagerly interrupted her by exclaiming good Heavens Charles how can you think of such a thing take a box for tomorrow night have you forgot that we are engaged to camon pleas tomorrow night and that we are most particularly asked to meet lady dmle and her daughter and Mr Elliot and all the principal family connections on purpose to be introduced to them how can you be so forgetful replied Charles what's an evening party never worth remembering your father might have asked us to dinner I think if he had wanted to see us you may do as you like but I shall go to the play Oh Charles I declare it will be too abominable if you do when you promise to go no I did not promise I only smirked and bowed and said the word happy there was no promise but you must go ch it would be unpardonable to fail we were asked on purpose to be introduced there was always such a great connection between the DAR rles and ourselves nothing ever happened on either side that was not announced immediately we are quite near relations you know and Mr Elliot too whom you ought so particularly to be acquainted with every attention is due to Mr Elliott consider my father's Heir the future representative of the family don't talk to me about heirs and representatives cried Charles I am not one of those who neglect the reigning power about the Rising Sun if I would not go for the sake of your father I should think it scandalous to go for the sake of his Heir what is Mr Elliot to me the careless expression was life to Anne who saw that Captain Wentworth was all attention looking and listening with his whole soul and that the last words brought his inquiring eyes from Charles to herself Charles and Mary still talked on in the same style he half serious and half jesting maintaining the scheme for the play and she invariably serious most warmly opposing it and not omitting to make it known that however determined to go to Camden Place herself she should not think herself very well used if they went to the play without her Mrs Musgrove interposed we had better put it off Charles you had much better go back and change the Box a Tuesday it would be a Pity to be divided and we should be losing Miss Anne too if there is a party at her father's and I am sure neither Henrietta nor I should care at all for the play if Miss Anne could not be with us Anne felt truly obliged to her for such kind kindness and quite as much so for the opportunity it gave her of decidedly saying if it depended only on my inclination momam the party at home excepting on Mary's account would not be the smallest impediment I have no pleasure in the sort of meeting and should be too happy to change it for a play and with you but it had better not be attempted perhaps she had spoken it but she trembled when it was done conscious that her words were listened to and daring not even to try to observe their effect it was soon generally agreed that Tuesday should be the day Charles only reserving the advantage of still teasing his wife by persisting that he would go to the play tomorrow if nobody else would Captain Wentworth left his seat and walked to the fireplace probably for the sake of walking away from it soon afterwards and taking a station with less barefaced design by Anne you have not been long enough in bath said he to enjoy the evening parties of the place oh no the usual character of them has nothing for me I am no no card player you were not forly I know you did not used to like cards but time makes many changes I am not yet so much changed cried Anne and stopped fearing she hardly knew what misconstruction after waiting a few moments he said and as if it were the result of immediate feeling it is a period indeed 8 years and a half is a period whether he would have proceeded farther was left to Anne's imagination to ponder over in a calmer hour for while still hearing the sounds he had uttered she was startled to other subjects by Henrietta eager to make use of the present Leisure for getting out and calling on her companions to lose no time L somebody else should come in they were obliged to move Anne talked of being perfectly ready and tried to look it but she felt that could Henrietta have known the regret and reluctance of her heart in quitting that chair in preparing to quit the room she would have found in all her own Sensations for her cousin in the very security of his affection wherewith to pity her their preparations however were stopped short alarming sounds were heard other visitors approached and the door was thrown open for S Walter and Miss Elliot whose entrance seemed to give a general chill Anne felt an instant oppression and wherever she looked saw symptoms of the same the Comfort the freedom the gayety of the room was over hushed into cold composure determined silence or insipid talk to meet the heartless Elegance of her father and sister how mortifying to feel the it was so her jealous eye was satisfied in one particular Captain Wentworth was acknowledged Again by each by Elizabeth more graciously than before she even addressed him once and looked at him more than once Elizabeth was in fact revolving a great measure the sequel explained it after the waste of a few minutes in saying the proper nothings she began to give the invitation which was to comprise all the remaining dues of the musgroves tomorrow evening to meet a few friends no formal party it was all said said very gracefully and the cards with which she had provided herself the Miss Elliot at home were laid on the table with a courteous comprehensive smile to all and one smile and one card more decidedly for Captain Wentworth the truth was that Elizabeth had been long enough in bath to understand the importance of a man of such an air and appearance as his the past was nothing the present was that Captain Wentworth would move about well in her drawing room the card was pointedly given and Sir Walter and Elizabeth arose and disappeared the interruption had been short though severe and ease and animation returned to most of those they left as the door shut them out but not to Anne she could think only of the invitation she had with such astonishment witnessed and of the manner in which it had been received a manner of doubtful meaning of surprise rather than gratification of polite acknowledgement rather than acceptance she knew him she saw disdain in his eye and could not venture to believe that he had determined to accept such an offering as an atonement for all the insolence of the past her spirit sank he held the card in his hand after they were gone as if deeply considering it only think of Elizabeth's including everybody whispered Mary very audibly I do not Wonder Captain Wentworth is delighted you see he cannot put the card out of his hand Anne caught his eye saw his cheeks glow and his mouth form itself into a momentary expression of contempt and turned away that she might neither see nor hear more to Vex her the party separated the gentlemen had their own Pursuits the ladies proceeded on their own business and they met no more while an belonged to them she was earnestly begged to return and dine and give them all the rest of the day but her spirits had been so long exerted that at present she felt unequal to more and fit only for home where she might be sure of being as silent as she chose promising to be with them the whole of the following morning therefore she closed the fatigues of the present by a toysome walk to Camden place there to spend the evening chiefly in listening to The Busy Arrangements of Elizabeth and Mrs clay for the marrow's party the frequent enumeration of the persons invited and the continually improving detail of all the embellishments which were to make it the most completely elegant of its kind in bath while harassing herself with the never-ending question of whether Captain Wentworth would come or not they were Reckoning him as certain but with her it was annoying solicitude never appeased for 5 minutes together she generally thought he would come because she generally thought he ought but it was a case which she could not so shape into any positive Act of Duty or discretion as inevitably to defy the suggestions of very opposite feelings she only roused herself from the broodings of this Restless agitation to let Mrs clay know that she had been seen with Mr Elliot 3 hours after his being supposed to be out of bath for having watched in vain for some intimation of the interview from the lady herself she determined to mention it and it seemed to her that there was guilt in Mrs Clay's face as she listened it was transient cleared away in an instant but Anne could imagine she read there the consciousness of having by some complication of mutual trick or some overbearing authority of his been obliged to attend perhaps for half an hour to his lectures and restrictions on her designs on Sir Walter she exclaimed however with a very tolerable imitation of nature oh dear very true only think Miss Elliot to my great surprise I met with Mr Elliot in Bath Street I was never more astonished he turned back and walked with me to the pump yard he had been prevented setting off for Thornberry but I really Forget by what for I was in a hurry and could not much attend and I can only answer for his being determined not to be delayed in his return he wanted to know how early he might be admitted tomorrow he was full of tomorrow and it is very evident that I have been full of it too ever since I entered the house and learned the extension of your plan and all that had happened or my seeing him could never have gone so entirely out of my head end of chapter 22 part one of chapter 23 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 23 part 1 one day only had passed since Anne's conversation with Mrs Smith but a Keener interest had succeeded and she was now so little touched by Mr Elliott's conduct except by its effects in one quarter that it became a matter of course the next morning still to defer her explanatory visit in River Street she had promised to be with the musgroves from breakfast to dinner her faith was plighted and Mr Elliot's character like the sultus Shahar zad's head must live another day she could not keep her appointment punctually however the weather was unfavorable and she had grieved over the rain on her friend's account and felt it very much on her own before she was able to attempt the walk when she reached the wide heart and made her way to the proper apartment she found herself neither arriving quite in time nor the first to arrive the party before her were Mrs Musgrove talking to Mrs Croft and Captain Harville to Captain Wentworth and she immediately heard that Mary and Henrietta two impatient to wait had gone out the moment it had cleared but would be back again soon and that the strictest injunctions had been left with Mrs Musgrove to keep her there till they returned she had only to submit sit down be outwardly composed and feel herself plunged at once in all the agitations which she had merely laid her account of tasting a little before the morning closed there was no delay no waste of time she was deep in the happiness of such misery or the misery of such happiness instantly two minutes after her entering the room Captain Wentworth said we will write the letter we were talking of harval now if you will give me materials materials were at hand on a separate table he went to it and nearly turning his back to them all was engrossed by writing Mrs Musgrove was giving Mrs Croft the history of her eldest daughter's engagement and just in that inconvenient tone of voice which was perfectly audible while it pretended to be a whisper Anne felt that she did not belong to the conversation and yet as Captain Harville seemed thoughtful and not disposed to talk she could not avoid hearing many undesirable particulars such as how Mr Musgrove and my brother hater had met again and again to talk it over what my brother hater had said one day and what Mr Musgrove had proposed the next and what had occurred to my sister hater and what the young people had wished and what I said at first I never could consent to but was afterwards persuaded to think might do very well and a great deal in the same style of openhearted communication minutia which even with every advantage of taste and delicacy which good Mrs Musgrove could not give could be properly interesting only to the principles Mrs Croft was attending with great good humor and whenever she spoke at all it was very sensibly Anne hoped the gentleman might each be too much self-occupied to hear and so Mom all these things considered said Mrs Musgrove in her powerful whisper though we could have wished it different yet altogether we did not think it fair to stand out any longer for Charles hater was quite wild about it and Henrietta was pretty near as bad and so we thought they had better marry at once and make the best of it as many others have done before them at any rate said I it will be better than a long engagement that is precisely what I was going to observe cried Mrs Croft I would rather have young people settle on a small income at once and have to struggle with a few difficulties together than be involved in a long engagement I always think that no mutual oh dear Mrs Croft cried Mrs Musgrove unable to let her finish her speech there is nothing I so abominate for young people as a long engagement it is what I always protested against for my children it is all very well I used to say for young people to be engaged if there is a certainty of their being able to marry in 6 months or even in 12 but a long engagement Yes dear momam said Mrs Croft or an uncertain engagement an engagement which may be long to begin without knowing that at such a time there will be the means of marrying I hold to be very unsafe and unwise and what I think all parents should prevent as far as they can Anne found an unexpected interest here she felt its application to herself felt it in a nervous thrill all over her and at the same moment that her eyes instinctively glanced towards the distance table Captain wentworth's pen ceased to move his head was raised pausing listening and he turned around the next instant to give a look one quick conscious look at her the two ladies continued to talk to re urge the same admitted truths and enforce them with such examples of the ill effect of a contrary practice as had fallen within their observation but Anne heard nothing distinctly it was only a buzz of words in her ear her mind was in confusion captain har who had in truth been hearing none of it now left his seat and moved to a window and Anne seeming to watch him though it was from thorough absence of Mind became gradually sensible that he was inviting her to join him where he stood he looked at her with a smile and a little motion of the head which expressed come to me I have something to say and the unaffected easy kindness of manner which denoted the feelings of an older acquaintance than he really was strongly enforced the invitation she roused herself and went to him the window at which he stood was at the other end of the room from where the two ladies were sitting and though nearer to Captain wentworth's table not very near as she joined him Captain Harv's countenance reassumed the serious thoughtful expression which seemed its natural character look here said he unfolding a parcel in his hand and displaying a small miniature painting do you know who that is certainly Captain benick yes and you may guess who it is for but in a deep tone it was not done for her Miss Elliot do you remember our walking together at lime and grieving for him I little thought then but no matter this was drawn at the cape he met with a clever young German artist at the cape and in compliance with a promise to my poor sister sat to him and was bringing it home for her and I have now the charge of getting it properly set for another it was a commission to me but who else was there to employ I hope I can allow for him I am not sorry indeed to make it over to another he undertakes it looking towards Captain Wentworth he is writing about it now and with a quivering lip he wound up the whole thing by adding poor Fanny she would not have forgotten him so soon no replied Anne in a low feeling voice that I can easily believe it was not in her nature she doted on him it would not be the nature of any woman who truly loved Captain harval smiled as much as to say do you claim that for your sex and she answered the question smiling also yes we certainly do not forget you as soon as you forget us it is perhaps Our Fate rather than our Merit we cannot help ourselves we live at home quiet confined and our feelings Prey Upon Us you are forced on exertion you have always a profession Pursuits business of some sort or other to take you back into the world immediately and continual occupation and change soon weaken Impressions granting your assertion that the world does all this so soon for men which however I do not think I shall Grant it does not apply to benck he has not been forced upon any exertion the peace turned him on Shore at the very moment and he has been living with us in our little Family Circle ever since true said Anne very true I did not recollect but what shall we say now Captain Harvel if the change be not from outward circumstances it must be from within it must be nature man's nature which has done the business for captain benck no no it is not man's nature I will not allow it to be more man's nature than women's to be inconstant and forget those they do love or have loved I believe the reverse I believe in a true analogy between our bodily frames and our mental and that as our bodies are the strongest so are our feelings capable of bearing most rough usage and riding out the heaviest weather your feelings may be the strongest replied Anne but the Same Spirit of analogy will authorize me to assert that ours are the most tender man is more robust than woman but he has not longer lived which exactly explains my view of the nature of their attachments nay it would be too hard upon you if it were otherwise you have difficulties and privations and dangers enough to struggle with you are always laboring and toiling exposed to every risk and hardship your home country friends all quitted neither time nor Health nor life to be called your own it would be hard indeed with a faltering voice if woman's feelings were to be added to all this we shall never agree upon this question Captain harle was beginning to say when a slight noise called their attention to Captain wentworth's hitherto perfectly quiet division of the room it was nothing more than that his pen had fallen down but Anne was startled at finding him nearer than she had supposed and half inclined to suspect that the pen had only Fallen because he had been occupied by them striving to catch sounds which yet she did not think he could have caught have you finished your letter said Captain haror not quite a few lines more I shall have done in 5 minutes there is no hurry on my side I am only ready whenever you are I am in very good Anchorage here smiling at Anne well supplied and want for nothing no hurry for a signal at all well Miss Elliot lowering his voice as I was saying we shall never agree I suppose upon this point no man and woman would probably but let me observe that all histories are against you all stories pros and verse if I had such a memory as benck I could bring you 50 quotations in a moment on my side the argument and I do not think I ever opened a book in my life which had not something to say upon woman's inconstancy songs and Proverbs all talk of woman's fickleness but perhaps you will say these were all written by men perhaps I shall yes yes if you please no reference to examples in books men have had every advantage of us in telling their own story education has been theirs in so much higher a degree the pen has been in their hands I will not allow books to prove anything but how shall we prove anything we never shall we never can expect to prove anything upon such a point it is a difference of opinion which does not admit of proof we each begin probably with a little bias towards our own sex and upon that bias build every circumstance in favor of it which has occurred within our own Circle many of which circumstances perhaps those very cases which strike us the most may be precisely such as cannot be brought forward without betraying a confidence or in some respect saying what should not be said ah cried Captain Harvel in a tone of strong feeling if I could but make you comprehend what a man suffers when he takes a last look at his wife and children and watches the boat that he has sent them off in as long as it is inide and then turns away and says God knows whether we ever meet again and then if I could convey to you the glow of his soul when he does see them again when coming back after a 12 month's absence perhaps and obliged to put into another Port he calculates how soon it' be possible to get them there pretending to deceive himself and saying they cannot be here till such a day but all the while hoping for them 12 hours sooner and seeing them arrive at last as If Heaven had given them Wings by many hours sooner still if I could explain to you all this and all that a man can bear and do and glories to do for the sake of these Treasures of his existence I speak you know only of such men as have hearts pressing his own with emotion oh cried Anne eagerly I hope I do justice to all that is felt by you and by those who resemble you God forbid that I should undervalue the warm and faithful feelings of any of my fellow creatures I should deserve utter contempt if I dared to suppose that true attachment and constancy were known only by woman no I believe you capable of everything great and good in your married lives I believe you equal to every important exertion and to every domestic forbearance so long as if I may be allowed the expression so long as you have an object I mean while the woman you love lives and lives for you all the privilege I claim for my own sex it is not a very enviable one you need not covet it is that of loving longest when exist or when hope is gone she could not immediately have uttered another sentence her heart was too full her breath too much oppressed you are a good Soul cried Captain Harel putting his hand on her arm quite affectionately there is no quarreling with you and when I think of benck my tongue is tied their attention was called toward the others Mrs Croft was taking leave here Frederick you and I part company I believe said she I am going home and you have an engagement with your friend tonight we may have the pleasure of all meeting again at your party turning to Anne we had your sister's card yesterday and I understood Frederick had a card too though I did not see it and you are disengaged Frederick are you not as well as ourselves Captain Wentworth was folding up a letter in great haste and either could not or would not answer fully yes said he very true here we separate but Harel and I shall soon be after you that is haril if you are ready I am in half a minute I know you will not be sorry to be off I shall be at your service in half a minute Mrs Croft left them and Captain Wentworth having sealed his letter with great rapidity was indeed ready and had even A hurried agitated air which showed impatience to be gone Anne knew not how to understand it she had the kindest good morning God bless you from Captain Harvel but from him not a word nor a look he had passed out of the room without a look she had only time however to move closer to the table where he had been writing when footsteps were heard returning the door opened it was himself he begged their pardon but he had forgotten his gloves and instantly crossing the room to the writing table he drew out a letter from under the scattered paper placed it before Anne with eyes of glowing in treaty fixed on her for a time and hastily collecting his gloves was again out of the room almost before Mrs Musgrove was aware of his being in it the work of an instant end of chapter 23 part one part two of chapter 23 of P persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 23 part two the revolution which one instant had made in Anne was almost Beyond expression the letter with a direction hardly legible to miss AE was evidently the one which he had been folding so hastily while supposed to be writing only to Captain benick he had been also addressing her on the contents of that letter depended all which this world could do for her anything was possible anything might be defied rather than suspense Mrs Musgrove had little Arrangements of her own at her own table to their protection she must trust and sinking into the chair which he had occupied succeeding to the very spot where he had leaned and written her eyes devoured the following words I can listen no longer in silence I must speak to you by such means as are within my reach you pierce my soul I am half Agony half hope tell me not that I am too late that such precious feelings are gone forever I offer myself to you again with a heart even more your own than when you almost broke it 8 years and a half ago dare not say that man forgets sooner than woman that his love has an earlier death I have loved none but you unjust I may have been weak and resentful I have been but never inconstant you alone have brought me to bath for you alone I think and plan have you not seen this can you fail to have understood my wishes I had not waited even these 10 days could I have read your feelings as I think you must have penetrated mine I can hardly write I am every instant hearing something which overpowers me you sink your voice but I can distinguish the tones of that voice when they would be lost on others too good too excellent creature you do Us justice indeed you do believe that there is true attachment and constancy among men believe it to be most fervent most undeviating in FW I must go uncertain of my fate but I shall return hither or follow your party as soon as possible a word a look will be enough to decide whether I enter your father's house this evening or never such a letter was not to be soon recovered from half an hour's Solitude and reflection might have tranquilized her but the 10 minutes only which now passed before she was interrupted with all the restraints of her situation could do nothing towards Tranquility every moment rather brought fresh agitation it was overpowering happiness and before she was beyond the first stage of full sensation Charles Mary and Henrietta all came in the absolute necessity of seeming like herself produced then an immediate struggle but after a while she could do no more she began not to understand a word they said and was obliged to plead indisposition and excuse herself they could then see that she looked very ill was shocked and concerned and would not stir without her for the world this was Dreadful would they only have gone away and left her in the quiet possession of that room it would have been her cure but to have them all standing or waiting around her was distracting and in desperation she said she would go home by all means my dear cried Mrs Musgrove go home directly and take care of yourself that you may be fit for the evening I wish Sarah was here to doctor you but I am no doctor myself Charles ring and order a chair she must not walk but the chair would never do worse than all to lose the possibility of speaking two words to Captain Wentworth in the course of her quiet solitary progress up the town and she felt almost certain of meeting him could not be born the chair was earnestly protested against and Mrs Musgrove who thought only of one sort of illness having assured herself with some anxiety that there had been no fall in the case that Anne had not at any time lately slipped down and got a blow on her head that she was perfectly convinced of having had no fall could part with her cheerfully and depend on finding her better at night anxious to Omit no possible precaution Anne struggled and said I am afraid ma that it is not perfectly understood pray be so good as to mention to the other gentleman that we hope to see your whole party this evening I am afraid there had been some mistake and I wish you particularly to assure Captain Harville and Captain Wentworth that we hope to see them both oh my dear it is quite understood I give you my word Captain Harville has no thought but of going do you think so but I am afraid and I should be so very sorry will you promise me to mention it when you see them again you will see them both this morning I dare say do promise me to be sure I will if you wish it Charles if you see Captain Harville anywhere remember to give Miss Anne's message but indeed my dear you need not be uneasy Captain Harel holds himself quite engaged I'll answer for it and Captain Wentworth the same I dare say Anne could do no more but her heart prophesied some Mis chance to damp the Perfection of her Felicity it could not be very lasting however even if he did not come to Camden Place himself it would be in her power to send an intelligible sentence by captain Marvel another momentary vexation occurred Charles in his real concern in good nature would go home with her there was no preventing him this was almost cruel but she could not be long ungrateful he was sacrificing an engagement to the gunsmiths to be of use to her and she set off with him with no feeling but gratitude apparent they were on Union Street when a quicker step behind a something of familiar sound gave her two moments preparation for the sight of Captain Wentworth he joined them but as if irresolute whether to join or to pass on said nothing only looked Anne could command herself enough to receive that look and not repulsively the cheeks which had been pale now glowed and the movements which had hesitated were decided he walked by her side presently struck by a sudden thought Charles said Captain wedworth which way are you going only to Gay Street or farther up the town I hardly know replied Captain Wentworth surprised are you going as high as Belmont are you going near Camden place because if you are I shall have no scruple in asking you to take my place and give Anne your arm to her father's door she is rather done for this morning and must not go so far without help and I ought to be at that fellow's in the marketplace he promised me the sight of a capital gun he is just going to send off said he would keep it unpacked to the last possible moment that I might see it and if I do not turn back now I have no chance by his description a good deal like the second siiz double barrel of mine which you shot with one day round Winthrop there could not be objection there could be only the most proper alacrity a most obliging compliance for public View and smiles rained in and Spirits dancing in private Rapture in half a minute Charles was at the bottom of Union street again and the other two proceeding together and soon words enough had passed between them to decide their direction towards the comparatively quiet and retired gravel walk where the power of conversation would make the present hour a blessing indeed and prepare it for all the immortality which the happiest Recollections of their own future lives could bestow there they exchanged again those feelings and those promises which had once before seemed to secure everything but which had been followed by so many many years of division and estrangement there they returned again into the past more exquisitly happy perhaps in their reunion than when it had been first projected more tender more tried more fixed in a knowledge of each other's character truth and attachment more equal to act more justified in acting and there as they slowly paced the gradual Ascent heedless of every group around them seeing neither sauntering politicians bustling housekeepers flirting girls nor Nursery maids and children they could indulge in those retrospections and acknowledgements and especially in those explanations of what had directly preceded the present moment which were so poignant and so ceaselessly Anin all the little variations of the last week were gone through and of yesterday and today there could scarcely be an end she had not mistaken him jealousy of Mr Elliot had been the retarding weight the doubt the torment that had begun to operate in the very hour of first meeting her in bath that had returned after a short suspension to ruin the concert and that had influenced him in everything he had said and done or omitted to say and do in the last four and 20 hours it had been gradually yielding to the better hopes which her looks or words or actions occasionally encouraged it had been vanquished At Last by those sentiments and those tones which had reached him while she talked with Captain Harville and under the irresistible governance of which he had seized a sheet of paper and poured out his feelings of what he had written nothing was to be retracted or qualified he persisted in having loved none but her she had never been supplanted he never even believed himself to see her equal thus much indeed he was obliged to acknowledge that he had had been constant unconsciously nay unintentionally that he had meant to forget her and believed it to be done he had imagined himself indifferent when he had only been angry and he had been unjust to her merits because he had been a sufferer from them her character was now fixed on his mind as Perfection itself maintaining the loveliest medium of fortitude and gentleness but he was obliged to acknowledge that only at uppercross had he learned to do her justice and only at lime had he begun to understand himself at lime he had received lessons of more than one sort the passing admiration of Mr Elliot had at least roused him and the scenes on the cob and at Captain Havel's had fixed her superiority in his preceding attempts to attach himself to Louisa Musgrove the attempts of an angry Pride he protested that he had forever felt it to be impossible that he had not cared could not care for Louisa though till that day till The Ledger for reflection which followed it he had not understood the perfect Excellence of the mind with which Louisa could so ill bear a comparison or the perfect unrivaled hold it possessed over his own there he had leared to distinguish between the steadiness of principle and the obstinacy of self-will between the daring of heedlessness and the resolution of a collected mind there he had seen everything to exalt in his estimation the woman he had lost and there began to deplore his pride the Folly The Madness of resentment which had kept him from trying to regain her when thrown in his way from that period his Penance had become severe he had no sooner been free from the horror and remorse attending the first few days of Louisa's accident no sooner began to feel himself alive again than he had begun to feel himself though alive not at Liberty I found said he that I was considered by Harvel an Engaged man that neither harvil nor his wife entertained a doubt of our mutual attachment I was startled and shocked to a degree I could contradict this instantly but when I began to reflect that others might have felt the same her own family nay perhaps herself I was no longer at my own disposal I was hers in honor if she wished it I had been unguarded I had not thought seriously on this subject before I had not considered that my excessive intimacy must have its danger of ill consequence in many ways and that I had no right to be trying whether I could attach myself to either of the girls at the risk of raising even an Pleasant report were there no other ill effects I had been grossly wrong and must abide the consequences he found too late in short that he had entangled himself and that precisely as he became fully satisfied of his not caring for Louisa at all he must regard himself as bound to her if her sentiments for him were what the harvil supposed it determined him to leave lime and await her complete recovery elsewhere he would gladly weaken by any fair means whatever feelings or speculations concerning him might exist and he went therefore to his brothers meaning after a while to return to Kellen and act as circumstances might require I was six weeks with Edward said he and saw him happy I could have no other pleasure I deserved none he inquired after you very particularly asked even if you were personally altered little suspecting that to my eye you could never alter Anne smiled and let it pass it was too pleasing a blunder for a reproach it is something for a woman to be assured in her eight and 20th year that she has not lost one charm of earlier youth but the value of such homage was inexpressibly increased to Anne by comparing it with former words and feeling it to be the result not the cause of a Revival of his warm attachment he had remained in shopshire lamenting the blindness of his own pride and the blunders of his own calculations till at once released from Louisa by the astonishing and felicitous intelligence of her engagement with benck here said he anded the worst of my state for now I could at least put myself in the way of happiness I could exert myself I could do something but to be waiting so long in in action and waiting only for evil had been Dreadful within the first 5 minutes I said I will be at bath on Wednesday and I was was it unpardonable to think it worth my while to come and to arrive with some degree of hope you were single it was possible that you might retain the feelings of the past as I did and one encouragement happened to be mine I could never doubt that you would be loved and sought by others but I knew to a certainty that you had refused one man at least of better pretentions than myself and I could not help often saying was this for me their first meeting in milsum Street afforded much to be said but the concert still more that evening seemed to be made up of Exquisite moments the moment of her stepping forward in the Octagon room to speak to him the moment of Mr Elliot's appearing and tearing her away and one or two subsequent moments marked by returning hope or increasing despondency were dwelt on with energy to see you cried he in the midst of those who could not be my wellwishers to see your cousin close by you conversing and smiling and feel all the horrible eligibilities and proprieties of the match to consider it as the certain wish of every being who could hope to influence you even if your own feelings were reluctant or indifferent to consider what powerful supports would be his was it not enough to make the fool of me which I appeared how could I look on you without Agony was not the very sight of the friend who sat behind you was not the recollection of what had been the knowledge of her influence the indelible immovable impression of what persuasion had once done was it not all against me you should have distinguished replied Anne you should not have suspected me now the case is so different and my age is so different if I was wrong in yielding to persuasion once remember that it was to persuasion exerted on the side of safety not of risk when I yielded I thought it was to duty but no Duty could be called in Aid here in marrying a man indifferent to me all risk would have been incurred and all Duty violated perhaps I ought to have reasoned thus he replied but I could not I could not derive benefit from the late knowledge I had acquired of your character I could not bring it into play it was overwhelmed buried lost in those earlier feelings which I had been smarting under year after year I could think of you only as one who had yielded who had given me up who had been influenced by anyone rather than by me I saw you with the very person who had guided you in that year of misery I had no reason to believe her of less Authority now the force of habit was to be added I should have thought said Anne that my manner to yourself might have spared you much or all of this no no your manner might be only the ease which your engagement to another man would give I left you in this belief and yet I was determined to see you again my spirits rallied with the morning and I felt that I had still a motive for remaining here at last Anne was at home again and happier than anyone in that house could have conceived all the surprise and suspense and every other painful part of the morning dissipated by this conversation she re-entered the house so happy as to be obliged to find an Alloy in some momentary apprehensions of its being impossible to last an interval of meditation serious and grateful was the best corrective of everything dangerous in such high rought Felicity and she went to her room and grew steadfast and fearless in the thankfulness of her enjoyment the evening came the drawing rooms were lighted up the company assembled it was but a card party it was but a mixture of those who had never met before and those who met too often a commonplace business too numerous for intimacy too small for variety but Anne had never found an evening shorter glowing and lovely in sensibility and happiness and more generally admired than she thought about or cared for she had cheerful or forbearing feelings for every creature around her Mr Elliot was there she avoided but she could pity him the walles she had Amusement in understanding them lady dmle and Miss carrid they would soon be a noxious cousins to her she cared not for Mrs clay and had nothing to blush for in the public manners of her father and sister with the musgroves there was the happy chat of perfect ease with Captain har the kind-hearted intercourse of brother and sister with Lady Russell attempts at conversation which a delicious Consciousness cut short with Admiral and Mrs Croft everything of peculiar cordiality and fervent interest which the same Consciousness sought to conceal and with Captain Wentworth some moments of communications continually occurring and always the hope of more and always the knowledge of his being there it was in one of these short meetings each apparently occupied in admiring a fine display of greenhouse plants that she said I have been thinking over the past and trying impartially to judge of the right and wrong I mean with regard to myself and I must believe that I was right much as I suffered from it that I was perfectly right in being Guided by the friend whom you will love better than you do now to me she was in the place of a parent do not mistake me however I am not saying that she did not earn her advice it was perhaps one of those cases in which advice is good or bad only as the event decides and for myself I certainly never should in any circumstance of tolerable similarity give such advice but I mean that I was right in submitting to her and that if I had done otherwise I should have suffered more in continuing the engagement than I did even in giving it up because I should have suffered in my conscience I have now as far as such a sentiment is allowable in human nature nothing to reproach myself with and if I mistake not a strong sense of Duty is no bad part of a woman's portion he looked at her looked at lady Russell and looking at her again replied as if in cool deliberation not yet but there are hopes of her being forgiven in time I trust to being in charity with her soon but I too have been thinking over the past and a question has suggested itself whether there may not have been one person more my enemy even than that lady my own self tell me if when I returned to England in the year eight with a few thousand and was posted into the Laconia if I had then written to you would you have answered my letter would you in short have renewed the engagement then would I was all her answer but her accent was decisive enough good God he cried you would it is not that I did not think of it or desire it as what could alone Crown all my other success but I was proud Too Proud to ask again I did not understand you I shut my eyes and would not understand you or do you just ice this is a recollection which ought to make me forgive everyone sooner than myself six years of separation and suffering might have been spared it is a sort of pain too which is new to me I have been used to the gratification of believing myself to earn every blessing that I enjoyed I have valued myself on honorable toils and just rewards like other great men under reverses he added with a smile I must Endeavor to subdue my mind to my fortune I must learn to Brook being happier than I deserve end of chapter 23 chapter 24 of persuasion this LibriVox recording is in the public domain recording by Karen Savage persuasion by Jane Austin chapter 24 who can be in doubt of what followed when any two young people take it into their heads to marry they are pretty sure by perseverance to carry their point be they ever so poor or ever so imprudent or ever so little likely to be necessary to each other's ultimate Comfort this may be bad morality to conclude with but I believe it to be truth and if such parties succeed How could a captain Wentworth and an Anne Elliot with the advantage of maturity of Mind consciousness of right and one independent Fortune between them fail of bearing down every opposition they might in fact have borne down a great deal more than they met with for there was little to distress them beyond the want of gracious and warmth Sir Walter made no objection and Elizabeth did nothing worse than look cold and unconcerned Captain Wentworth with 5 and 20,000 and as high in his profession as Merit and activity could place him was no longer nobody he was now esteemed quite worthy to address the daughter of a foolish spendthrift baronet who had not had principle or sense enough to maintain himself in the situation in which Providence had placed him and who could give his daughter at present but a small part of the share of £10,000 which must be hers Hereafter Sir Walter indeed though he had no affection for Anne and no vanity flattered to make him really happy on the occasion was very far from thinking it a bad match for her on the contrary when he saw more of Captain Wentworth saw him repeatedly by daylight and eyed him well he was very much struck by his personal claims and felt that his superiority of appearance might be not fairly unbalanced against her superiority of rank and all this assisted by his well sounding name enabled Sir Walter at last to prepare his pen with a very good grace for the insertion of the marriage in the volume of honor the only one among them whose opposition of feeling could excite any serious anxiety was Lady Russell Anne knew that lady Russell must be suffering some pain in understanding and relinquishing Mr Elliot and be making some struggles to become truly acquainted with and do justice to Captain Wentworth this however was what lady Russell had now to do she must learned to feel that she had been mistaken with regard to both that she had been unfairly influenced by appearances in each that because Captain wentworth's manners had not suited her own ideas she had been too quick in suspecting them to indicate a character of dangerous impetuosity and that because Mr Elliot's manners had precisely pleased her in their propriety and correctness their General politeness and suavity she had been too quick in receiving them as the certain result of the most correct opinions and well-regulated mind there was nothing less for lady Russell to do than to admit that she had been pretty completely wrong and to take up a new set of opinions and of hopes there is a quickness of perception in some a nicity in the discernment of character a natural penetration in short which no experience and others can equal and Lady Russell had been less gifted in this part of understanding than her young friend but she was a very good woman and if her second object was to be sensible and well judging her first was to see Anne happy she loved Anne better than she loved her own abilities and when the awkwardness of the beginning was over found little hardship in attaching herself as a mother to the man who was securing the happiness of her other child of all the family Mary was probably the one most immediately gratified by the circumstance it was creditable to have a sister married and she might flatter herself with having been greatly instrumental to The Connection by keeping Anne with her in the Autumn and as her own sister must be better than her husband's sisters it was very AG able that Captain Wentworth should be a richer man than either captain benck or Charles hater she had something to suffer perhaps when they came into contact again in seeing Anne restored to the rights of seniority and the Mistress of a very pretty lolette but she had a future to look forward to of powerful consolation Anne had no uppercross Hall before her no landed estate no headship of a family and if they could but keep Captain Wentworth from being made a baronet she would not change situations with Anne it would be well for the eldest sister if she were equally satisfied with her situation for a change is not very probable there she had soon the mortification of seeing Mr Elliot withdraw and no one of proper condition has since presented himself to raise even the unfounded hopes which sunk with him the news of his cousin Anne's engagement burst on Mr Elliot most unexpectedly it deranged his best plan of domestic happiness his best hope of keeping SAR single by the watchfulness which a son-in-law rights would have given but though discomforted and disappointed he could still do something for his own interest and his own enjoyment he soon quitted bath and on Mrs Clay's quitting it soon afterwards and being next heard of as established under his protection in London it was evident how double a game he had been playing and how determined he was to save himself from being cut out by one Artful woman at least Mrs Clay's affections had overpowered her interest and she had sacrificed for the young man's sake the possibility of scheming in longer for S Walter she has abilities however as well as affections and it is now a doubtful Point whether his cunning or hers may finally carry the day whether after preventing her from being the wife of Sir Walter he may not be weeded and caressed at last into making her the wife of Sir William it cannot be doubted that Sir Walter and Elizabeth were shocked and mortified by the loss of their companion and the discovery of their deception in her they had their great cousins to be sure to resort to for Comfort but they must long feel that to flatter and follow others without being flattered and followed in turn is but a state of half enjoyment Anne satisfied at a very early period of Lady Russell's meaning to love Captain Wentworth as she ought had no other alloy to the happiness of her prospects than what arose from the consciousness of having no relations to bestow on him which a man of sense could value there she felt her own inferiority very keenly the disproportion in their fortun was nothing it did not give her a moment's regret but to have no family to receive and estimate him properly nothing of respectability of Harmony of Goodwill to offer in return for all the worth and all the prompt welcome which met her in his brothers and sisters was a source of as Lively pain as her mind could well be sensible of under circumstances of otherwise strong Felicity she had but two friends in the world who add to his list lady Russell and Mrs Smith to those however he was very well disposed to attach himself lady Russell in spite of all her former transgressions he could now value from his heart while he was not obliged to say that he believed her to have been right in originally dividing them he was ready to say almost everything else in her favor and as for Mrs Smith she had claims of various kinds to recommend her quickly and permanently her recent good offices by Anne had been enough in themselves and their marriage instead of depriving her of one friend secured her two she was their earliest visitor in their settled life and Captain Wentworth by putting her in the way of recovering her husband's property in the West Indies by writing for her acting for her and seeing her through all the pretty difficulties of the case with the activity and exertion of a Fearless man and a determined friend fully requited the services which she had rendered or ever meant to render to his wife Mrs Smith's enjoyments were not spoiled by this Improvement of income with some improvement of health and the acquisition of such friends to be often with for her cheerfulness and mental alacrity did not fail her and while these Prime supplies of good remained she might have bid Defiance even to Greater accessions of worldly Prosperity she might have been absolutely rich and perfectly healthy and yet be happy her spring of Felicity was in the glow of her spirits as her friend an's was in the warmth of her heart Anne was tenderness itself and she had the full worth of it in Captain wentworth's affection his profession was all that could ever make her friends wish that tenderness less the of a future War all that could dim her Sunshine she gloried in being a sailor's wife but she must pay the tax of quick alarm for belonging to that profession which is if possible more distinguished in its domestic virtues than in its National importance end of chapter 24 end of persuasion by Jane Austin
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Linux Kernel 6.7 Unveiled: A Comprehensive Look at New Features and Enhancements
welcome back Linux enthusiasts today we have some exciting news for all you Linux enthusiasts out there Linus Torvalds has just announced the first release candidate for Linux kernel 6.7 and it's packed with a multitude of new features and improvements I'm going to take you through the key highlights of what to expect in this upcoming release Linux kernel 6 7 is shaping up to be a major Milestone with a slated final release date at the end of December 2023 or early January 2024 this release boasts an impressive 15.4k non- merge commits making it the largest merge window to date Linus tals has shared some insights into the developments and we can't wait to see what this release has in store one of the standout features of Linux kernel 6.7 is the introduction of the BCA Chef's file system positioned as a copy on right T file system it aims to rival the capabilities of btrfs and ZFS while maintaining the Speed and Performance of ext4 and xfs this addition is a significant step forward in providing Linux users with more options for file system management Linux 6.7 brings a plethora of networking updates including support for grro decapsulation for IPC ESP and UDP USC resolution of TCP timestamps TCP authentication option TCP AO and more these enhancements not only improve existing functionalities but also introduce new capabilities like mctp over i3c support the fair queing fq packet scheduler has received notable upgrades including built-in Three band priority and WRR scheduling btrfs e ext4 x fat and f2fs file systems have all received attention in this release highlights include raid stripe tree for BFS improved multi-block allocator for xt4 and expanded support for X fat with iocs and a new zero siiz deer mount option these updates contribute to better performance reduced file deletion times and optimized handling of data blocks Hardware support is a crucial aspect of any kernel release and Linux 6.7 does not disappoint it promises enhanced support for AMD platforms new sound chip compatibility updates for Qualcomm and Intel platforms and support for various USB type-c editions additionally new features for specific platforms like the AMD ommu mlogic C3 and S4 so's and Intel lunar Lake are included showcasing the commitment to keeping the kernel compatible with a diverse range of Hardware Linux kernel 6.7 introduces several architecture specific updates rust support has been upgraded to rust CER 1.7 3.0 RM 64 support has expanded with new hwc cap definitions and there is now support for the Amper SOI pmus the risky V architecture receives numerous additions including support for cb. cbos on acpi based systems and a virtualized SBI debug console for risk V on KVM security and performance are always top priorities for the Linux kernel in this release app armmer gets initial support for mediating iio Ing and usern creation along with optimizations to address Performance bottlenecks crypto support sees the addition of a new virtual address based LSK Cipher interface and improved AES XTS performance additionally Linux 6.7 enables IBT by default if it's also enabled in C contributing to enhanced security the final release of Linux kernel 6.7 is expected at the end of December 2023 or early January 2024 Linus tals May announce seven release candidate versions leading to a potential release on December 31st New Year's Eve or eight release candidates pushing the release to January 7th early adopters can download the first release candidate rc1 for testing but it's important to note that pre-release versions are not suitable for use on production machines in conclusion Linux kernel 6.7 is shaping up to be a significant update bringing a host of new features improvements and enhanced compatibility with a wide range of Hardware the dedication to refining file systems boosting networking capabilities and ensuring security and performance optimizations reflects the ongoing commitment of the Linux Community to deliver a robust and versatile operating system as we eagerly await the final release I encourage all Linux enthusiasts to explore the first release candidate provide feedback and be a part of the collaborative effort that makes Linux such a powerful and dynamic open-source project stay tuned for more updates on Linux kernel 6.7 and as always don't forget to like share and subscribe for all things Linux and open- source
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Long Vowel “o” Word Families with beginning consonant + beginning digraph #longvowels
hi guys today we will be looking at the long vowel o what is the sound of the long vowel o it is o now if you want to review the long vowel sound o you can watch this video when there are two vowels in a word the word normally takes the long vowel sound and the second vowel is silent for example boat there are two vowels o and a now it will take the long vowel sound o however the a will be silent so [Music] boat all right now in this video we're going to look at some examples of words with the long vowel o let's go oh bore coal oat goat old hoed [Music] hmm oat old road oak soak toad oh oak cloak flow old float goo oat gloat [Applause] ho oh go ob load old mode old node dog [Music] oak coke oak hulk ch oak joke oak poke oak talk [Music] stoke [Music] soul chol do oh now here are some exceptions they don't take the long o sound some come on bone own tone [Music] now here are some exceptions they do not take the long vowel o sound krone jur own drone [Music] pr own prone dope m pope slope clothes those some exceptions are lose whose oat coat do [Music] wrote yo oat wrote now remember in this word the w is silent cover over hover over rover drove of trove some exceptions are dove love glove shove close [Music] thank you very much everyone i really hope this video was helpful please remember you can look in the description and you will find many more videos related to reading and also grandma and please don't forget to like share and subscribe bye
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Fleshy McFleshy Dr. James Daryl Chesser May 15, 2018
so today I want to talk to you about fleshy mik fleshy [Music] hi this is see live TV with Darrell Chesser fleshie Mick fleshie I know catchy title isn't it well today I want to read from one of the writings I did just recently and it is about the flesh to some degree but it's an important part of our doctrine the doctrine of Jesus Christ in the epistles as they wrote the epistles the disciples this was an element that came kept coming back to to stress especially Paul and said hang on to this part so let's begin we're starting in Hebrews chapter 2 verses 14 through 18 in the NIV there's the writer of Hebrews and he talks about Jesus of Nazareth our Messiah since the children have flesh and blood he Jesus or Yeshua - shared in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death that is the devil and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death I don't know whether it's by starvation or poverty or sickness or disease or war or famine or pestilence or or whatever the the fear of death in other words maybe even socially to be embarrassed to death to be ashamed or humiliated to death to lose every the fear of death is mixed up in almost every decision of a human in some way or another the death of a relationship the death of your flesh the death of your finances the death of your future the death of the planet that the fear of death which is just ludicrous it's well it's rational if you're not born again but it's ludicrous in the believer dude we've already died yes this body's going to go this flesh will die too but we've already secured eternal life in Christ Jesus okay let me go on for surely it is not angels that got God helps but Abraham's descendants in other words God didn't say Jesus Christ to this earth to help the angels or the demons or the spiritual world or the planets of the stars or even the animals he sent them for Abraham's descendants oh wow and for this reason he had to be talking about Jesus now for this reason Jesus had to be made like them like humans like flesh bone and blood fully human in every way in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God and that he might make atonement he might pay for the sins of the people because he himself suffered when he was tempted he is able to help those who are being tempted right now he lived as one of us Jesus Christ came and lived as one of us born of a woman in completely human and completely God he was tempted in every way such as we but he did not sin it would have been impossible for him to sit there was no sin in him and there was nothing as one of the Gospels points out it says or Jesus himself said he goes Satan has come and he has found nothing in me no hook there's there's no condemnation or there's no there's no seed of sin in there that I can activate was what Satan what Jesus was saying about Satan or sin there was no sin in him because he was not born of a man he was born of a woman God was his father and there was no sin passed along in the blood all the blood comes from the man I didn't know if you knew that I was it wasn't till about a few just a few years ago I knew that and but now all of the blood comes from dad anyway so let's go on we just read read Hebrews chapter 2 verse 14 through 18 so let me begin to read what I wrote it is very important to know and declare that Jesus was a flesh and blood human born of a woman he suffered for us as a human not because he was forced to but because he willingly walked in this suffering because of the father's love for mankind you and me and also for his own love for this scrappy race called men one of the reasons we are to remember the body and the blood and of Jesus Christ in communion is to continually reinforce that Jesus was a flesh man he was a human and fully God as well and he walked among us this is very important because there were heresies that started not long after Jesus death burial and resurrection that began to spiritualize him as well he didn't come in the flesh it was it was just a spiritual thing a revelation and you're going no he he actually did come in the flesh and you're saying people can't deny that I'm going to sure I mean people deny the Holocaust right now right today people deny that the earth is round right today people will rewrite history and deny all truth and reality I mean that's just the way of human humanity so we are the most fortunate among all mankind those of us who have been born again and received the truth of our Savior and Lord Jesus Christ because of his suffering is a human being he is able now to give us aid and comfort for everything that we face in this world as our faithful and eternal high priest as John the Apostle wrote in his gospel I mean in one of his epistles I think first John 4:17 as he is as Christ is today so are we in this world he's been here he's seen it he's done it Christ Jesus he walked among the sick he walked among the dead he walked among the hungry and he used the power of God and the grace of God in the mercy of God to feed him and He healed them laid hands on he cast out Devils everywhere he went and He healed the sick all manner sickness I mean everything so he already knows about this so as he is today let me ask you this as John wrote as he is so are we in this world so let me ask you does Jesus have worries today no not I mean you're sitting that he's sitting at the right hand of the Father he's rested he's already assured the victory over Satan and death and hell in the grave it's already a done deal we are already living in this great promise of eternal life those of us who have believed Jesus Christ came in the flesh that he suffered for us that he died for us and that he was resurrected for us that faith activates the grace of God to come flood us and and make us new and wash us clean so now let me ask you about does Jesus have cancer today what about diabetes or autism how about debt or fear or any other or any other thing that tries to steal kill or destroy does Jesus have any of those things today where he is no then as he is today so are we in this world Jesus himself told us he said in this world you will have tribulation there's a lot of junk going on here but be of good cheer I Jesus Christ have overcome the world now as he is so are we in this world today God loves you greatly and completely and Jesus is the Savior the Messiah our great High Priest working on our behalf that's his whole job a whole is to represent the people to God he is the one that goes before God and says here's these guys offerings and their worship and God says is it proper he goes look at me yep Jesus cleans up our stuff our imperfect prayers than our imperfect worship in our in our imperfect doctrine he takes it on board and he makes it acceptable and pleasing to the Father and offers us as an acceptable sacrifice because it is Jesus Christ whom we've come to and said you're my offering you are my prayer you are my hope you are my everything Jesus Christ you you're pleasing the father your good deeds your good thoughts you're absolutely doing the law and the will of God all the way to the grave and dying for us in our place in our stead and being raised in the from the dead for us so that you would be firstborn among the dead firstborn that means there's a lot more coming and I'm one of them is Jesus worried about you today no he's given a nod over to the father going dude look at we're doing great and I know we look at each other and go but Jesus is saying yep they're doing good so Jesus now is working on our behalf securing every spiritual and earthly blessing from our heavenly father for you and I today and for anyone who will put their faith in Jesus Christ so the day I want to bless you I want to say one of the verses out of Acts that I thought I think it was Peter and Silas or Palomar somebody and it was Peter the jailor you know they're there their chains fell off it was a great earthquake after prayer and all of the prison doors flew open and and the chains fell off all the prisoners and there were these two disciples that had been in this prison and the jailer was freaking out he knew his life was forfeit now these prisoners were going to escape and that's the way it was jailor you let the prisoners escape no matter the reason your life is forfeit so the jailer comes running to them and says what must I do to be saved but whatever words you want they're what must I do to be healed what must I do to be become out of debt what must I do to be fortunate and and and and happy in this little realm and righteous what must I do to be saved from certain destruction eternally from certain destruction physically from certain destruction financially from certain destruction emotionally and spiritually and relationally what must I do to be saved and their answer was this believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved you and your household and you know what the guy did he believed he received Jesus Christ his whole family received Jesus Christ they were baptized and and walk in great joy and peace and wholeness because Jesus Christ is the answer to everything as he is so are we in this world I don't care what situation you're facing as he is today so are you in this world he's not sick he's not broke he's not concerned about politics he's not concerned about the world situation he's not concerned about the neighbors he loves you and the father in heaven loves you and they know us completely and His Holy Spirit God's Holy Spirit resides in us now and he loves us and he's building us up and he knows every step and his job is to continue to reaffirm in you and correct and say listen you are the righteousness of God God is pleased with you because of your faith in Christ Jesus because Jesus Christ is your offering able we don't know anything about Abel except for he gave the right offering to God that's it and his brother killed him we know two things he was the son of Adam and Eve and his brother Abel gave an improper offering one of works one of healthy eating one of discipline whatever you want to say and the other guy all we know is he offered blood or a lamb we don't know if Abel was a good guy or a bad guy a slothful guy we have no idea what this guy was we only know one thing and that God was looking at he brought the right offering and for that his brother hated him as Jesus is so are we in this world if you have the right offering today that offering is Jesus Christ the blood of that lamb the broken body and pierced and bruised and battered and beaten and striped body that was cursed by being put on that cross for you everything in this world was taken care of by Jesus Christ on his way to that cross and on that cross and been through his going to the grave shedding his blood and going to the grave everything after this world was taken care of as he is so are we in this world be of good cheer I have overcome the world father today in Jesus name I pray for every one hearing and seeing this message I pray that you impart to them peace and joy and the grace of God through the knowledge of Jesus Christ and if there's anyone that has not yet received Jesus father opened their eyes today to see him open their hearts to believe and to declare that Jesus Christ is Lord heal every one of your children supply every one of your children restore and renew every one of your your children rejuvenate them in their strength and in their youth in every part of their bodies their bone our joints the marrows the internal organs the eyes the ears the skin the hair everything Lord renew us today and give us an excitement to tell people about Jesus Christ that human that flesh-and-blood human that flesh emic flesh guy that died for us [Music] you
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Third PERSON of the Holy Trinity | Aesthetic Visual Hive
the holy spirit is God number one he's omniscient the Holy Spirit searches out the Deep things of God the Holy Spirit knows everything the father knows the holy spirit is omnipresent Psalm chapter 139 verse 7 says I can never escape from your spirit I can never get away from your presence the holy spirit is omnipotent in Luke chapter 1 verse 35 we see that the power of the most high is equivalent to the power of the Holy Spirit they're mentioned together the holy spirit is omniscient he's omnipresent and he's omnipotent a third member of the Trinity he is God and he can be known by you
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The main components of a deadbolt lock explained
this video was put together as a quick guide to explain the main components of a deadbolt mock brought to you by dallas fw locksmith as you can see here this is the actual bulb of a deadbolt lock this part is called the latch the whole going through the latch is called the slot here's the thumb turn assembly the part that actually turned among the lock is called the thumb turn this image miss of the cylinder the cylinder is where you put the key to unlock the deadbolt the outer ring around it is called either the trim ring cylinder guard or cylinder cover as you can see there's not much to the working components of a deadbolt lock although it is recommended to hire the services of a professional locksmith when considering replacing your home's locks because a professional locksmith will be able to guarantee the installation of your locks and the components installed for more useful videos be sure to visit poor locksmith blog thank you for watching
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Future Society pitch video Jan 2014
a very warm welcome on behalf of future Society I am nilanjan Nath a Founder member of future Society in this brief speech video we'll look into the target problem the affected segment of society and also look into different solutions that we are working on the specific problem is lack of quality tutoring and this key issue impacts poor understanding and very high accentism and dropout rate from schools almost every student of India is affected with this problem but to be specific the worst impact is seen in the underprivileged and unprivileged population because they don't have means to provide private tutors or admit their children into a private school now I have mentioned that most of the students of India is affected with this problem now let's look into a few numbers the survey contacted by state Council of educational research and Training Institute we have found that students in standard 7 has 86 percent of tutors in resistant survey conducted by annual status of Education report it is found that almost 74 percent of students of class 6 to 8 had private tutor now let's look into a few intervention one of them is wearing digital lessons the video that you're looking at right away is a prototype of that kind of digital lesson and then second part of the intervention is creating digital libraries the students will be able to access all these digital lessons created using this Digital Library future Society with its limited capacity cannot really address this so we need Community engagement fear production that would virtually make the whole Community future Society team that is working on this specific problem now we are working on a program called Desh which this stands for digitally enabled study health and in this phase one we are rolling it out in state of West Bengal we are developing digital lessons for standard five to eight sharing this digital lesson online using our YouTube channel we're also uploading in our Dropbox for where anyone can download this we are also promoting offline sharing of this content while we are developing this technology we are also vouching on 554 million mobile and 94 million PC and other digital device user base of India to support this intervention thank you for watching this video
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Caution Fortnite Chapter 3 Season 3 Montage *PandaLordkyle*
[Music] i feel nauseous believe me never had a lot of [ __ ] come easy had to work hard struggle just to be me had to rise up just so they could see me did what i had to do just to feed me and what was left over i put towards my dreaming but the only thing in life that has meaning are the things you gotta work for believe me take into your hands a plan your own hands can land your own branding damn i feel like no one takes accountability they want the credibility convincingly unwilling to put in the hours it takes to get some power don't be [ __ ] sour take a cold shower scream until you're louder work until you're prouder and [ __ ] for the doubters they're just young downers i swear to god they all let me down i always fought just to wear the crown i'm dark at these [ __ ] clouds who were up top they deserve a nouns it's only worth it if you work for it i won't stop till they hear me now i won't stop till i wear the crown [Music] bye
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Smart Ideas A Comical Journey...
welcome back to our Channel dear viewers we're discussing smart ideas today the Eureka moments that gave us inventions like the wheel and the smartphone these transformative ideas have reshaped our world but smart ideas can seem silly until they work so we're starting with celebrating the Genesis of Genius later we'll explore the amusing Universe of dumb ideas stay tuned imagine the most absurd idea you've ever had got it let's delve into bizarre realities for instance Sports enthusiasts combined football and bowling causing a spectacle of flying pins and evasions another person deemed it smart to strap Rockets to his rollerblades without success there was also the man who tried to construct a DIY helicopter with fans quite the notorious tale these aren't fiction but examples of boundless human creativity even when it leans towards utter absurdity remember even though not all ideas prove to be victorious they indisputably make for an entertaining narrative be sure to return shortly for more insane stories
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The Perfect Firefighter Simulator
hey there friends how's it going my name is kevin and today we are playing a firefighter game my only issue is that i can't pick which one because they both look so good you see i was pretty set on firefighters the simulation which just looks like a very generic low effort simulation game which i love and some good reviews too like but once you get past all these negative ones the oh there's one great but then i saw firefighters 2014. i opened it and i saw this image and well i didn't really need to look into it anymore i kind of knew deep down that this was the one for me the thing is it was just his face that convinced me but now that i'm looking at it again why is he is taking a selfie smiling into the camera when there's a fire burning behind him of an oil tanker like shouldn't he be helping there's one dude over there look it doesn't matter you got a beautiful face and a beautiful smile and that's what it's all about seeing you smile but it looks really good and again in the reviews uh oh ignore all these ignore ignore uh ah here we go three in a row i like firefighter games my first steam game i am so proud of this game and all right reviews like that how can you go wrong i'm imagining it like on the box ign all right i mean if the bearers said that low you probably could do that you could find a bit in their article where they said all right the problem with this game is and then just clip the all right put it in quotes ign all right sorry firefighters the simulation i'm gonna have to go with firefighters 2014. why does the developers intro look like a youtube intro from 2011 all right i got the game installed i was just staring into the void literally waiting for it to install it kind of clicked and i was just like huh i really don't do much when i'm not recording all right let's fire some fight i fight some fire no tutorial for me my people need me where there's smoke there's fire or even worse underage teens smoking either way i'm blasting it with the hose okay these credits are really long and they're just repeating the name andre burger over and over again he's done everything oh my jesus christ what is this sensitivity oh my god i'm gonna give my own guy whiplash his neck is gonna snap as i myself have a lot to do i'll summarize the most important point what is with the music why is it so mysterious one of the people in this room is a murderer and i'm pretty sure it's you i could see it in your eyes and sure that oh god maybe it's him actually did you see that he just snapped his neck to the left and stared at her oh it was you wasn't it yeah it's definitely him he's giving me the old side eye always who were you what was that oh my god the music is so dramatic as well how are you that's just power washing his face sorry sir i just noticed that the electricity was a bit dirty so i'm just gonna give it a bit of a wash cause i turn off this music it's so dramatic i hate it okay that's better now can we use our own music there we go that that's much more suited florian one oh jesus christ there's a fire oh god where's the dramatic music again there we go it's a dumpster fire we gotta go i don't even know how to drive in fact one step before that i don't even know how to get in that fire truck wait no guys please don't leave without me please i don't know how to drive oh for [ __ ] sake all right i gotta figure this out you sir i'm commandeering your vehicle okay that was a ghost actually this epic music when i'm just mashing all the keys attempting to get in my car we gotta figure this out we gotta stop this fire is this the same game this might be another fire fighters 2014 how many were there one of the first things in the manual teaches you how to uninstall i wonder why they put that at the front okay well the time's about to run out i'm not sure what happens shift has been ended okay so did that fire just burn out or what good morning everyone i don't think a summary's going to do i think i actually have to do the tutorial just to figure out how to get in the car then i'm fine honestly i think i could only get into the fire truck that left without me i don't think the other ones were usable hello you must be our new employee i've been expecting you oh my god that mouth action it's just a bit like and they just voiced over it come on stop staring out the window this is where the action is he's not showing me anything this is the tutorial oh great he's showing me the drink dispensers that's fantastic where'd he go oh he's going upstairs what are you doing dude come on stop staring oh i'm gonna get a hench on these things uh let's see there we go what is that perspective i don't even have to do anything he just does it himself this is your office on the wall on the right is an empty shell he said there's an empty shelf for all my future awards i hate to break it to your chief but uh that's gonna be empty forever apparently i just spanked that light switch by the sounds of it chief can you please just teach me how to put out fires i love how he just walks through all the doors [Applause] something in the kitchen is growling at me but i'm just going to ignore that he's literally just giving me the slowest tour i've ever gotten of my life he's just been like here's the workout room here's the kitchen he hasn't taught me a single thing about putting out fires when he's spraying with this he looks as pale as i do i'm trying to put out fires before they start i mean proactive which is the best way to stop fires so that's it for our little tour what you didn't teach me anything oh my god the one tutorial i actually decided to do it takes me like eight minutes and he didn't teach me anything he just walked me around here i don't want to read about andre burger again i'm pissed off at andre burger to be honest like honestly that tutorial should have just been the fire chief come up to you and go fire bad and it would explain just as much okay yes i can drive this one fantastic this is the only one i can drive open the doors i go for a joyride i even indicated i wonder will the fire break out in the same spot hold on i'm indicating to go right for some reason when i'm deciding to just reverse uh there we go indicate i'm gonna put on the hazard lights as i am a general hazard to everyone and i'm gonna go out there where the dumpster fire started and i'm gonna stop it before it starts oh god i hit an invisible barrier god damn it did i go the wrong road ah okay i think i did hold on this is why the hazard lights on please be careful another shift that seems like it'll never end my guy is hating this game though my own protagonist of this game hates the game he's in it's like i could have been the protagonist in anything i could have been pac-man but he's stuck in this reality stop just dead oh that's great let me just put on everything wait what what happened the game was safe why am i upside down it shoots your carelessness your vehicle's in heavy damage your shift was therefore unsuccessful it just spawned me upside down for some reason what the hell is this game the game was saved but at what cost okay it's teleported me to what looks like a different map okay where's the fire oh there it is nice all right guys out of my way oh it's just one dumpster perfect sake anyone with a watering can could have took care of this what second where are the uh the hoses all right here we go should i put down a cone all right everyone stay back why is there water coming out of the truck oh yeah you see second i got this where do we hook this up to uh i mean he hooked his up to nothing but i'm gonna attempt to hook it up to something there we go nice hooked up okay now let's just put out the fire operation completed successfully there we go all taken care of guys good job out there it's like what a sports team does at the end of a victory you just throw like like sports drink over each other and firefighters blast each other with the holes oh wait can i take off the hose one second i don't know how to take it off oh god damn okay i took it off all right uh close the door and i think we're ready to go sorry my mirrors don't actually work so apologies if i back into you sorry again mirrors don't work so not really my fault all right i'm putting on the siren there's an emergency i am hungry i need to get back to the station sorry my favorite football team just won a game so i'm pretty excited to what bay do i park this in i shouldn't reverse again i have no mirrors all right this is the one that poor guy turn off no all right wrong button my car is kind of blocking this one um let me go in fact it won't align with me god damn i wanted it to just blast the fire truck out of the way [Applause] all right there we go remember where we parked good job everyone let's get some shot eye the science blasting downstairs everything okay yeah despite all the sirens everything is completely fine no i think i'm going to pump some iron i think i've earned it oh my god it's so loud even when you're upstairs can i go to sleep i mean sound aside in general can i go to sleep i am good four hours of sirens wailing oh oh a fire i guess i don't know what weighs down oh my god it's chaos i think everyone's kind of freaking out no one really knows where to go like it's just staring at a wall at least now i can easily find my fire truck because i know where i parked wait come on get in there we go guys remember no reverse cameras watch out all right maybe we can take a shortcut here yep straight over the hill jesus christ i'm dedicated to my job people are dying dude stop talking about yourself and complaining about how the shift is long when you're on your way to fight a fire wait we can change the camera oh that is pretty cool you know what would work well for this uh is it bonnie taylor's holding out for a hero i'd play it but then i'd get copyright strikes so i'll just sing it badly so that it doesn't get picked up i'm holding out for a hero till the end of the night take a nap in the fire truck i'm fine with it i can sleep through the sirens you can too [Applause] sick drift right into that box and i definitely rolled over to something there was a hefty bump there he like wakes from his nap and i'm like i'm sorry ass speed bump watch out folks sorry no mirrors you know yeah it covers his eyes he doesn't want to see that all right hold on let me let me let me pull up to it and i'll i'll get the traffic cones why is that bench on fire but nothing around it is i got a brush here let me sweep up some of this fire and just sweep it up to put it over there with the rest of the fire and now that i've grouped it up together i can get my hose oh my god i thought someone took out a machine gun to deal with the fire all right let me put down a cone so everyone knows what's going on there we go now civilians will know to stay back now let me get the hose honestly i don't know why it takes you guys so long when i spray the fire it just goes out and you spray the fire nothing happens at all it's as if you're waiting for the protagonist to do it himself all right i'll leave the the rest of the fire to you there's just a little bit okay they cannot seem to even contain that little bit of fire let me take care of it then there we go my shift has ended you're welcome everyone i saved the day thanks to your excellent performance yesterday it is my pleasure to promote you to the rank of firefighter with immediate effect everyone are you talking to me because you're not looking at me you're looking at someone else i'm assigning you as the driver of ambulance florian five today he's making me drive the ambulance today great sorry about that i'm just gonna check up on an ambulance and make sure everything's in tip-top condition especially after the fact i just smashed it into that wall there we go all fixed up i don't know what i was doing i have no knowledge of what's going on here but it's fixed up now oh i hit something there just another speed bump i'm sure operator oh for [ __ ] sake i just got here now i got to turn around here was probably under the influence of alcohol oh me too i don't think i need to be taking up boat lanes with my lights and sirens on just because someone is under the influence of alcohol unless this world is under the restrictions of prohibition which honestly would just be cruel because this world seems painful i think you'd need an escape in alcohol and just drown your sorrows all right where is he we gotta take him out i don't see anyone who am i treating is it you i just picked up this child i don't think it's even them you're coming with me i'm gonna mark this as a danger zone because someone just got kidnapped here should i take your school bag no it doesn't matter i don't know how to close the door so you're just gonna have to hold tight all right i have no restraints or anything and i don't think this is even the right person i just kidnapped the child oh god she's after flying out the back after that crash hey at least if she does fly out the back and get seriously injured an ambulance will be right next to her why is a firefighter even driving an ambulance i don't really understand why i'm involved like fair enough it was like related to a fire i guess i don't know but it seems weird that i'm just going out dealing with drunk people when i'm a firefighter all right ambulance is up ahead i'm going to cut through the forest to again save a bit of time it worked before after effects sake there's invisible barriers oh god damn it this invisible barrier dude it's so in my way hang on back there patient oh my god if you're still back there that is this completes your operation yeah she's gonna need an operation after that and she was perfectly fine when i picked her up lord good thing i'm filling up my engine's tank that the car sounds really hungry hear that rumbling trying to pour gasoline everywhere trying to start the fire just so i have something to put out this is a good beef you could definitely make some music with this beat turn off the blue lights we're not on duty but we are there's someone gravely injured here apparently [Laughter] oh look at this it's lying there oh jesus all right i'm gonna do my duty and just put down a road sign because this is clearly insurance fraud she is not hurt she's stiff as a board she's faking it all right i think i've done my duty here i think i could sign off for the day oh this game is so funny i i have to give it a good review my official review is all right but i hope you guys enjoyed if you want to see me do more weird simulators like this please do let me know i think i have to it's just they're so funny for all the wrong reasons and feel free to suggest some to me as well either in the comments or over on twitter but yeah i hope you enjoyed if you want to watch more of me i post every day i also stream over on twitch if you want to see me there the link's in the description thank you very much for watching appreciate it and i hope to see you next time bye for now
Call Me Kevin
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How to Save your Fish from Swim Bladder Disease
hey it's nice to see almost any fish that is quite active and swimming all over your tank responding to your movement eating their food and also maybe playing around with their surroundings but what if they don't eat? what if they can't swim? what if it all stopped? Thats why im here hey guys i'm Surdeep devanathan, I make fish videos and travel vlogs in this series of episodes i'm going to talk to you about different fish and their breeds and throughout the episodes we will be talking about freshwater fish the basic necessity, adaption, breeding and etc and before we get into the video i need to give a shout out to this guy aqua lover he's been trying to reach me a couple of times but yeah this time i haven't forgotten you dude aqua lover you deserve this shout out it's all for you if you're wondering why your fish is swimming in a bad orientation or having a huge lump in the chest which makes it difficult to swim it is only because they are suffering from swim bladder disease not to confuse with dropsy now how and why does this happen to your fish low water temperature can slow digestive process this increases pressure in swim bladder parasites or bacterial infection can inflame the swim bladder also overfeeding and last it might be born with a defect so here are some steps to be preventive or swim bladder disease you must have a closer look at all your fish if they're active or not make sure circulation of filter is not very harsh always keep your water around 80 degrees fahrenheit or 26 degree centigrade if your fish is showing any of these signs and you have no idea or equipment immediately consults with nearby veterinary in case your fish is infected how do you treat them in most cases i've noticed a lot of beta fish or goldfish are infected if you are observing this for the first time you can go ahead and strip some green pea soften them up and drop it in boiled water for a few minutes when the peas warm and softer wait for it to reach room temperature now drop tiny broken pieces into the tank your fish should start eating so this process can be repeated twice a day until it's completely recovered thanks for watching if you liked it please subscribe
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Day in my life of a BABYSITTER |GETTING ICE CREAM, STORE RUN, COOKING AND MORE !!!!
[Music] paper plane hey hey girl Christine Christine and I'm back again with another video today so I just want to start by saying we are babysitting today guys so I have my cousins with me today we have Sasha and we have Rashad and today you guys today we are the new ice cream place to try we was going to do the raw ice cream but it was closed so we're at this new ice cream place and we're gonna try it so I'll get with you guys once we get inside and so hey y'all we are gonna walk in the store to get some ice cream I'm not sure how to lighten it or the music gonna be so we're gonna see okay [Music] so this is like a tick tock ice cream is Katie store you guys they have the tick tock jelly thingies they may have [Music] peppermint bark and things of that nature so I don't know what kind of ice cream I want for you guys so we already have vanilla a little pecan strawberry Saucy caramel I have a lot of different flavors I just not show up so I want to try okay you guys excuse my little company little edges over here I did slay the morning but I end up getting the strawberry cheesecake in s'mores and when I tasted it it was so I'm finished I got two scoops that y'all can see so I'm finna eat y'all because this junk was good so it's like a cheesecake base with strawberries in it and then the s'mores is like I don't know how to explain s'mores it just tastes like s'mores Food Lion hey guys so we are now at Food Lion we are about to get some things for our skating tonight so yeah yeah got an eyebrows looking good oh yeah I'm so mad at her because she want to mess my eyebrows up y'all like she made this one perfectly like perfect arch but what we did over here like what what happened you know what I'm saying like now but weird but anyways that's the point let's go ahead and go into full line that way we can start cooking so I don't know what kind of I think I want a meat sauce you guys or three cheese I don't know yet oh let's see what we want today I don't want their cheese I want like a meat sauce but y'all yeah that's why you get meat flavored sauce yeah we have to get the Food Lion Brand today because when we're on a tight budget we mean a tight budget that's two dollars like shopping on a budget yeah shopping on the budget we got some pot sauce spaghetti noodles we got this kind it's like 98 cents Food Lion Brand Miss thing over there this thing had attitude in the car and she wouldn't act like I didn't know she had attitude when I told her she can be Kenny over here but she was mad like I said she was over there man and I told her well we just go and come here and you can hear and she was still pouting she was pounding anyways we're gonna make some meat sauce not meat sauce ground beef so that was two dollars that was 98 cents some guys and we're gonna get like a small pack of meat sauce if I can find some guys look what I found we're not getting it I know show me the Vlog yeah I don't know how much this is but y'all this one has 19 grams of protein so we can get dead and now we just need cheese and yeah let's go come on Sasha so we're getting cheese what is that too bad so say we can't get none so time for cheese y'all cheese make everything taste better from the dairy but when I say this is a very nice blue line you guys this is a very very nice Food Lion I've never been in football that looked like this before it's like really organized and it's kind of on a small side that's another reason probably why I'm not used to it because it's so small and organized and everything basically looks new so we're gonna get some cheese tofu we can find some cheap cheese I'll be back all right y'all so we're on the way to the stuff check out we're gonna take our order got some good Wings in here but it's okay so go ahead you're gonna come right here and check out our food babe Pizza Hut [Music] and that's how you shop on the budget and y'all thank you for shopping Food Lion from the budget you know what I'm saying we would write any budget a cheap meal and the crazy thing is we could just go home and then we can bake it in the oven and all the cheese milk it'll be so delicious y'all so yeah huh absolutely somebody left a water right there y'all see it girl there's a poison that order no but it's fresh all right go ahead and get poisoned guys you hear that she wants you to get 40. well you're the devil is gonna go get it no I said you have to tell me one there's a difference it is it is it is yes it is but anyway you guys we're on our way home and we're gonna cook our lunch so hey you guys as you can see so basically we're gonna start making some spaghetti so we have our breakfast noodles our name brand spaghetti sauce we have the cheese and the meat in the refrigerator and we're gonna start seasoning with me and getting that pops out and start cooking our spaghetti so let's get into it and just before you ask the baby is sleeping we're gonna get canceled [Music] you know faster [Music] I don't know myself [Music] foreign [Music] I Wanna Know baby all my pictures thank you so what's up you guys I literally just put the spaghetti back in the oven I let it cook well not cook it's already done just letting the cheese melt on top of it and the first time when I did it for 10 minutes I didn't put the aluminum foil over it so now I took it out put the aluminum foil over it so that way my cheese can go ahead and melt all the way through so we're just waiting on that and then we can dig into this nice little spaghetti over here it's against the baby half woken up as you can see we got Sasha over here and Rashawn Sasha over here playing sleep so they're doing but yeah you guys so we're just waiting for the food to get done ready for the cheese to finish melting and the corn is done over here it's nice and laid out over here so that's basically what we're waiting for and yeah I might talk to you guys might get my food I might not I don't know I have to come up with something to talk about but um will you be my Leading Lady [Music] foreign [Music] let me all of myself I don't know leave me here I'll myself [Music] how long later
Life with Christina
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Sincere Christian Questions Answered Ali Dawah Christian Visitor
so i'm assuming i don't know so i'm assuming from an islamic perspective that would be allah giving the requirements to um moses for the jews right yeah so in in your understanding would you say then that really that was um islam in that period in time rather than judaism anything god almighty stipulated or sent down as revelation for his prophet in a specific time was islam okay and anyone that submitted to that commandment was a muslim okay okay all right so yeah so just to clarify then so from your understanding um when the when did when moses received the law to give to the to the israelites which jews and most other people would say that's two days and you would say no that's actually islam yeah and then um when jesus called his disciples in first century um that was they were his disciples the term christian hadn't been coined then exactly at that point they were muslims yeah but you would say that was yeah islam and the jews that rejected jesus and called his mother an adulterer and call them a fake messiah are the disbelievers they'll be the father of that time to us okay um and the ones who follow jesus will be the muslims okay and then the message continues when the prophet muhammad come that anyone that rejected him become disbelievers and anyone that followed the prophet muhammad because he didn't this message wasn't different to what jesus moses and abraham teach will become the muslims at their time i'm sorry i didn't it's a powerful okay okay okay so what um the other thing i'm not trying to debate i just want to get clarification that's good so um one of the things that i thought was interesting um when i went back and checked is that in surah 6 136 yeah i'm i'm paraphrasing it it's not verbatim what i'm saying but it's like mohammed is effectively saying that he's the first muslim let me find that verse just so i just don't miss quote sorry one second i just want to get it right that's all 6 1 6 i think the 3rd 6 163 let's have a look okay um let's have a look [Music] no that's not wait where is it 163. this this i this i am commanded i am first of those who surrendered yes brackets onto him no associate has he and this i am commanded and i am the first of muslims yes literally was it one sort of i typed in sewer six oh six one six three one six four is that i don't know if that's the right reference because one there's a one six four oh yeah yeah yeah sure six 163 okay and okay so it says here for him there is no partner and plus i've been commanded and i am the first one to submit i don't know so we can say okay so basically say as for me whoever comes with a good deed will receive 10 times as much and whoever comes in an evil deed will be recruited with no more than the like of it and they shall not be wronged say as for me my lord has guided me to a straight path the straight religion the faith of ibrah ibrahim who was upright and was not of those who associate partners with allah say my prayers my offering my life and my death are for allah the lord of the whole world for him there is no partner and thus i have been commanded and i am the first to submit then we go to the verse you're talking about yeah say i shall see i am the first to submit yes so basically submission is following your move to god almighty yeah yeah so yeah so god almighty's saying because muhammad say this from what i know so this is what he's saying that my life my my death everything that i do is for god almighty and i'm not among those who uh so he's basically saying i am the first to submit because when it came to the arabian peninsula he's talking about that he's not talking about because if that was the case then we wouldn't believe this concept of adam being the first muslim because he's the one that's first first submitted so are you effectively saying that muhammad is the first to submit when the message came yes to his people what was that message islam but it yeah again i'm not trying to catch you out so it is so so we're saying that islam is is from the time of adam yes but the way how islam was what you're saying is different from when it came to from when according to it came to abraham and then there are other things that are different so for example there might be things that god has allowed for a specific prophet a nation that he doesn't disallow now the doctrine doesn't change yeah yeah the doctrine doesn't change so that's the reason why this is we have of christianity because we believe the doctrine was evolved what we're seeing is with our core doctrine so what you see is with them not muslims there's a lot of differences but none of them differ on allah none of them differ on like who he is none of them differ in the quran none of them differ in the prophet muhammad but there are differences on subcategories so not to digress but wouldn't be considered pagans to you no no they won't be pagans unless unless that's they think ali is all hearing and i'm digressing yeah exactly so unless they believe and even a muslim who goes to the prophet muhammad's grave and starts asking him and thinks he can give help has left the fold of islam we believe the same thing so what we're saying is in a nutshell that um what was the question um yeah the question was is that um yeah so basically the main doctrine doesn't change so there are certain things that god almighty had allowed or disallowed for the children of israel israel that he had allowed to do i think again what you're trying to say are you trying to say that muhammad is the first muslim to submit under the dispensation that your arabian peninsula because when he came you need to understand that the world there may have been those um who were worshiping god and god alone without associating partners to him yeah but to be a true muslim you have to accept that the prophet muhammad is a final prophet so he's saying that he accepted in the context that he came as a final prophet and he is submitted to god's command so he becomes the first muslim in that context i get what you're saying you're saying that basically in the final yeah if i use the words in the final version of islam you can't say i'm just give me a bit of leeway in the final version or iteration of islam you're saying that muhammad is the first to submit yes allah lucky [Music] is [Music] oh uh thank you my brother
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Online Etymology Dictionary | Wikipedia audio article
the online etymology dictionary is a free online dictionary written and compiled by Douglas Harper that describes the origins of english-language words topic description Douglas Harper compiled the etymology dictionary to record the history and evolution of more than 30,000 words including slang and technical terms the core body of its etymology information stems from earnest weeklies an etymological dictionary of modern English 1921 other sources include the middle English dictionary and the Barnhart dictionary of etymology by Robert Barnhart and others although the sources for each entry are not stated in producing his large dictionary Harper says that he is essentially and for the most part a compiler an evaluator of etymology reports which others have made Harper works as a copy editor page designer for LNP media group as of June 2015 there were nearly 50,000 entries in the dictionary topic reviews and reputation the online etymology dictionary has been referenced by Oxford University's arts and humanities community resource catalog as an excellent tool for those seeking the origins of words and cited in the Chicago Tribune as one of the best resources for finding just the right word it is cited in academic work as a useful though not definitive reference for etymology in addition it has been used as a data source for quantitative scholarly research topic references topic external links official website
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Ash Barty RETIRES from Tennis | Tennis News
welcome back to tennis talk my name's cam williams and world number one ashbardi has retired from tennis and this is not just retired from tennis in the next couple of weeks or over the next couple months she is done for good let's go have a read of her statement this is what barty had to say over on instagram today is difficult and filled with emotion for me as i announced my retirement from tennis i wasn't sure how to share this news with you so i asked my good friend casey delaware to help me i am so thankful for everything this sport has given me and leave feeling proud and fulfilled thank you to everyone who has supported me along the way i'll always be grateful for the lifelong memories that we created together there you have it barty retiring out of nowhere uh it's i mean as an australian it's a huge shock uh to me and it's really sad it's a sad day for australian tennis a sad day to see barty go because she's such a great champion she's only 26 years old as well so we don't know exactly why she's not going to go on with tennis we don't you know she'll find out tomorrow i guess in her press conference but yeah she's won three of the four slams you know most of us especially australians were thinking she could win all four slams go down is one of the great players of uh in the history of the game one of the legends of the game and she retires so we have a new world number one i guess we can talk about that but yeah barty is out of tennis she's done she retires let me know down in the comments below what's your favorite party moment i think for me personally winning the australian open in january was my favorite moment for brady because it's a big moment for australians to win the australian open it's not happened for such a long time but let me know down in the comments below what is your favorite body moment
TENNIS TALK with Cam Williams
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Harness the Strawberry Full Moon's Power: Uncover Your Spiritual Journey
dancing in the strawberry Moonlight a spiritual journey to Inner Peace and self-realization when the World falls into Stillness of the evening on Saturday June the 3rd 2023 the Strawberry full moon will rise a radiant orb glowing with the wisdom of Ages but this is an ordinary Moon it's a Divine symbol a Celestial Whisper Of Summer and the sweet rewarding the tastes of life's spiritual fruit in the Twilight tapestry the Strawberry full moon is a beacon a call to Every Soul seeking enlightenment slight is a cosmic lullaby that's sings of completion fruition and a reminder that the end is But A New Beginning on this spiritual path the full moon has always been a moment of powerful transformation like the shimmering tide it pulls it influences our emotions our actions and our spirit but the Strawberry full moon creates and carries a very special message it tells a tale of sweetness of growth the beauty of self-realization and the joy that comes from reaching out and harvesting the fruits of your own very spiritual journey the full moon is a time of culmination release and a heightened energy it symbolizes the peak of the lunar energy and is a very powerful period for Spiritual work I'm not an expert in astrology but I know that this Strawberry Moon is ruled by Jupiter and in a fire sign of Sagittarius it makes it particularly stashed special Sagittarius is known for its thirst for knowledge and Truth it's mutable nature calling for change and its fire elements symbolizing energy and transformation so as the full moon is a time for release and realization then it's an opportune moment to release all beliefs that no longer serve you Embrace a new personal truth and just moreover that the Strawberry Moon is happening just a day after Venus in cancer makes an exact train with Neptune in Pisces and the Moon in Scorpio this alignment symbolizes a time of highest spiritual connection and mastery making it an ideal time for you to Deep en your own spiritual journey so how can we tap into this potent energy for our Spiritual Development and journey how can we ensure that we make the most of the energies that are with us this evening how do we listen to this Celestial narrative how do we dance to the cosmic Rhythm of the universe we meditate we quieten our minds and tune our hearts To The Moon Song and I'm going to invite you now to join me on this meditation during this strawberry film and find a place where the Moonlight can touch your skin where the rustle of the night can be your Symphony close your eyes and just breathe in the Peace of the night prepare your soul for a Celestial dance as you close your eyes here we need to take three nice deep breaths in breathing in through your nose holding at the top and then letting it go breathing in through your nose hold it at the top and then letting it go and again breathing in through your nose holding at the top and letting it go and I want you to visualize the Strawberry full moon gently light just throwing into you just feel this light breathing into you Every Breath You Take is infused with its energy the vibrant healing the empowering the spiritual gift that we receive and with every exhale release any fear any doubt any barrier that's kept you from your true spiritual potential breathing in the beautiful light and breathing out doubt fear barriers and holding your heart the intention of this meditation it's for greater self-love it's for Clarity of purpose or perhaps it is for a deeper connection with yourself the universe and the spiritual Realm and let this intention bask in the Moonlight with you let it be nurtured and let it be encouraged to bloom spend a few moments in this beautiful powerful Strawberry full moon just allowing those energies to wash over you and allow yourself just to be drifting to The Whispers to the sounds to the full moon that wants the energies wants to dance with you placing you twirling leaping and stepping closer to your spiritual Destiny allowing the rhythm of the cosmos and the song of life to be with you be back in a few moments foreign and as our meditation draws to a close and we need to bathe in the feelings of gratitude whisper your thanks to the moon the stars the universe and to your Spirit guides because they've helped you along your pathway remember this feeling of connection this is your spiritual journey your dance in the Moonlight the spiritual full moon is not just a Celestial phenomenon it's a mirror of our other selves a spiritual guide reflecting you on your journey so let this full moon be your dance floor a place where you twirl you leap and you step closer to your spiritual destiny to the rhythm of the cosmos and the song of your life and as you open your eyes and return to the Rhythm maybe of the mundane carry this Celestial dance in your heart for the in this spiritual journey you're never alone you have the universe as your partner and your guides is the light so every step you take he Jude closer to the beautiful dance of self-realization and inner peace thank you for listening be love and give love God bless you and good night
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The ONLY Video You Need to CLIMB in ROCKET LEAGUE
I've created a simple guide that you can immediately apply to your gameplay to rank up right after you watch this and some of it isn't going to be your typical advice Instead This Is The Stuff 90 of players below GC don't pay attention to in their gameplay that holds them back but if you can watch this and actually Implement what I'm going to talk about I guarantee it will shoot you up one if not multiple ranks my name's Luke and if you're new here I'm known as a top .01 ranked coach and for running rocket League's number one live coaching program called the Grand champ road map inside we take gold through champ ranked players like you up to Grand champ in just six weeks or less when this drops will have just crossed 1900 players in the program and will be past 80 of 125 seats sold out for upcoming January 2.0 launch so if you're hunting for that GC or SSL title and you want in before we sell out DM me on Discord with a keyword San and I'll send you the details on how it works my Discord will be the first link down below otherwise let's get into the concepts okay this video will cover six main Concepts that most low ranked players get wrong concept number one radius of coverage all radius of coverage means is the space around your car that you could feel the ball or that you could reach at any given time the mistake a lot of new players make when they get into rocket league is thinking radius of coverage is sort of like a circle around your car but this is of course wrong it's much much easier to reach a ball that's far out in front of us than one even just a little bit to the side or behind yet in practice one of the biggest mistakes I see low rank players make is simply pushing up too far one very common example is something called back post for those who don't know back post just refers to the side of your net that is opposite the side of the ball the reason this is so important is because when you rotate back post and you actually stick there you keep the entire net in front of you and you make it so that any shot is in front of your car yet because most low ranked players want to be near the ball they make the common Pitfall of Simply pushing up into the middle of their net or Worse pushing up to the front post because they think it's better to be closer to the ball instead if you simply stick to your back post never creep up into the middle of your net until you see a shot coming you'd be amazed at how much easier it is to play defense let's take a look at another example of pushing up too far and not understanding radius of coverage a common scenario that you may find yourself in is being the person at Midfield waiting for your teammate to Center the ball from the corner it's natural to see a center coming and want to creep up right under the net to be there when it comes when the center comes you have no room to actually drive forward and go for a shot so you get a weak shot or even worse the ball just completely flies a over your head there's actually a rule for this called the 70 30 rule which basically just says okay let's only move 70 of the way there that way when the ball does come we can drive through our radius of coverage and get a running start for a shot you do this right and you'll be able to prevent and convert twice as many goals in your games number two corners most low ranked players completely misunderstand how Corners work you might think that the map looks something like this in terms of danger everything on my side of the field is red and as we move downfield slowly and slowly the field gradually becomes more green right well not really the truth is the rocket League map looks more like a grid the red hot spots that you should keep the ball away from are yes right in front of your net most of the Midfield is orange but your Corners are actually green this is because when the ball is in your corner there are not many angles for it to be actually shot on your net what a lot of low rank players would do is see the ball coming towards their side of the field and think this is a problem I need to push up into my corner I need to shut them down I need to challenge and stop the ball at all costs what's better and what you'll see me do a lot in my road to SSL is when I see somebody hit the ball into my corner I simply let them all go there I know that there are not many threatening options that can come from the corner so I just rotate wide around I get to my back post I keep the play in front of me and I let the opponent try to take it at me from the corner no knowing there's not many angles they could actually convert when you're on offense it's the exact same thing instead of hitting the ball into your opponent's Corner try to take it to the Midfield this will allow you more angles to shoot and just give you more opportunities to score in general number three rolls rolls are something that in theory people understand but in practice very few people below GC actually get right as many of you know roles in rocket League are Dynamic it's not good to just have a dedicated goalkeeper or dedicated player playing offense because of boost if you understand this you may have heard of the concept of first man second man third man as well first man is the person closest to the ball whoever is going to make the play second man is usually the second in line playing aggressive and right on call if the first man misses and third man is the last in line usually covering the more defensive option and playing safer here's where most lowering players go wrong if you're getting frustrated you may think to yourself wow my teammates suck they're clearly in incapable of scoring the ball if we're gonna win I need to make it happen myself so you turn on the Jets you're grabbing boost and basically not letting off the ball even though it might feel good this is the absolute worst thing you can do in solo queue ranked because while you're up field chasing the ball going again and again and again you get to a point where your team just starts having to sit behind you on full Boost doing nothing and eventually your teammates won't know what to do they'll challenge creep up too far double commit and this usually ends with your attack fizzling and you guys getting scored on instead when you're playing 3v3 especially you need to understand it's better to make your play short sweet and obvious for your team hit the ball make your play then make it obvious to your team that you're leaving so they can go and have impact as well while you grab boost disrupt the opposing team or whatever it may be trust me it may feel like you're having less of an impact but if you do this right all of a sudden your team will just start scoring more and you'll win more games without having to put in any extra effort number four straight line versus circular rotation so you understand you need to make your play and then get out but how exactly many low ranked players make the mistake of basically only doing straight line rotations what do I mean by this let's say you're attacking in the opposing Corner you're trying to move the ball through their corner but unfortunately you get jammed you take a 50 50 and for whatever reasons the ball's dead and you need to rotate out the wrong thing to do would be to move exactly back from where you entered why is this wrong well because the problem is when you rotate straight line like this you point heads with your team remember our goal is to cover as much of the field as possible as a team so when we do these straight line rotations and we go up and down the field we risk bumping our teammates overlapping our coverage and making double commits instead you generally want to move in a circular rotation to flow with your team so after you make your touch and you realize you need to move through it's almost always better to continue pushing straight across the field and then move in behind your teammates after this will make it so much easier to rotate properly because you won't be jamming your teammates they'll know it's their turn to go and you'll no longer find yourself under the ball all the time number five boost management when you're a new player it's hard enough to just figure out what to do when you get the ball managing your Boost is probably the last thing you're thinking about but I have a somewhat simple solution that will hopefully help you fix your Boost management the problem most low ranked players have is they think of boost like an on and off switch you're playing the game rotating going for the ball then the second you get low on Boost you completely shut off your play you go back to your corner refill and try to recover back into it five seconds later High ranked players on the other hand think of boost as more of a bonus if we watch my gameplay here what you'll notice is I don't immediately decide to go for Corner boost hardly ever I first look at the play and say does the play need me right now if I have a play to make on the ball I would rather stay up and just collect a few pads and be there to make the play then go back entirely and miss out Simply keeping your eyes on the play while you collect boost as much as possible will massively improve your impact each and every game and you'll play two times or three times as fast as everybody in the lobby just because you'll have eyes on the play when other people don't number six the final missing piece to most low ranked gameplay is demos and the reason they're so important is because they allow you to have an impact on the play even when you're not necessarily the one on the ball yet I see two main ways people at the lower ranks go wrong with demos number one you have the demo Chaser this is the person who's only hunting around the field for demos this is bad because number one it's inefficient to use all your Boost to maybe get a single demo and number two it'll mess up your positioning and just the flow of your teammates play because they'll have no clue when to go or not go for the ball the more common mistake though that I see is being person number two which is the pacifist who's only hitting the ball or collecting boost never looking for opportunities to demo this is the easiest way to miss out on impact that you could have in your games especially in twos and threes so how do we find a balance especially when we already have to worry about you know positioning and all the rest of it what I want you to focus on that will have more impact than anything else is just something called the rotational demo we'll go back to the previous example of your in the opponent's corner you finished making your play and you're rotating through their net across the field if there's somebody in your path immediately the second after you make your touch you go for the demo otherwise get back Play Safe and you will literally be able to terrorize the opposing Team without having to do anything fancier with your max okay I know that was a lot of information but before you march into your games there's one last topic I need to address which is how to actually implement this information a common issue I have with my students is when they first go to implement any new strategies like this in their games it doesn't quite work right away the reason being is because when you first try to change your gameplay you're gonna be actively thinking about the strategies we just talked about this is naturally going to make your quick reactions in game a little bit slower and you're not gonna pick up on the stuff that you normally would have because all your brain power is going towards rotating properly or looking for the demo rather than just going for the ball like you used to as you do the strategies more and more the good habits that I'm describing here are going to start to happen without you thinking about it so I guess the point is even if you see a little bit of a dip initially know that that's just how Improvement works if you want more from me hit me up on disc scored with the keyword send for details on coaching or you can join my free Improvement Discord it's the largest training Discord it's completely free to join and you can leave whenever you want I'll have that first link down below otherwise thanks so much for watching I'll catch you next time later guys
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Brew Map: Seven Troughs Distilling
[Music] Yelp's teamed up with reno/tahoe to share a couple of the stories behind the great locations that you can find on the brew map featuring breweries and distilleries throughout the Reno Tahoe area welcome to our Sparks Nevada location here we make bourbon whiskey here I want you guys come on in seven troughs is is an old ghost town is founded at the turn of the last century it's an old mining town gold and silver mining we think that that's really kind of like the Nevada Outback it's the secret handshake for Northern Nevada we thought we'd name our distillery after after that wonderful place we make whiskey the old-fashioned way so we we don't have some of the modern equipment we don't have computer-controlled anything it's more art than science here it's truly craft we take these old fashioned spirits that we're making it the distillery in Sparks and we go to Reno and sabotage speakeasy and we make old fashioned cocktails come down to the distillery and sparks we'll show you how we make it and if you're really looking for a great experience with the craft cocktail come to the speakeasy
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Geese Lightning And More Pencilmation! | Animation | Cartoons | Pencilmation
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Destiny 2: The 2022 Guardian Games Top 10% Emblem Is Available! Glory's Claim Emblem
[Music] the top 10 emblem for guardian games is now available what's up guys reckless here welcome back to another video so the top 10 emblem for guardian games is now available on bungie.net and you guys can actually go to bungie.net and claim it now if you did not get top 10 every single week you are not going to be able to get this emblem so if you did get top 10 every week go ahead go to bungie.net and go to rewards go to where it says claim digital rewards and yours will actually be here on this screen unfortunately mine is not because i have already claimed it as you have seen earlier on in this video and once you actually go ahead and click on claim reward it'll actually go into your game then you want to log into your game and go down to where it says collections go to flare go to general and then on the last page glory is claimed this is where the top 10 guardian games emblem for 2022 will be and yeah like i said if you guys had top 10 you'll it'll be there if you did not then it will not be there however if you think you did get top 10 every single week and it's still not there or you're not able to claim it on bundy.net i would go ahead and make a ticket um to bungie and actually let them know hey what's going on and then hopefully they'll actually let you know whether you did or did not get it sup hopefully you guys uh are able to get your top 10 emblem i am going to be rocking this for as long as i can because it definitely is a well um howdy so well uh i can't even think of the word [Laughter] it is a well earned um emblem thank you and that my friends bring us to the end of video if you are new here feel free to subscribe to my channel like and share the video if you enjoyed it and i will see you guys in the next one hey hey you watch these videos too i know you like them go go go go
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C'bustle: Walking Tours of Columbus
the city of Columbus is a perfect place for students to live and explore but most students don't have any idea what's around they think they have to take a bus to get to the short North when I first came here I thought in that way too I couldn't find anything off campus but I really love it here yeah I think it's a good idea I would have loved to have someone show me how to get to the art museum or the state capital Columbus is a really exciting place I think walking tours are a good way to introduce people to the community so then it's easier for them to be engaged in the future with what's going on outside of Campus h
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HOW TO HANDLE NEIGHBORHOOD BEEF 101 #rust #shorts
so what's going on what's the beef uh what's what's this yeah what's the 4-1-1 we could negotiate all right so wife wife feeder was door camping and them because they were roof camping him when he went to gas station and then a Zuma killed me and we're supposed to be friendly all right Mark you guys are gonna fight it out okay you guys gonna turn around it's gonna be like turn around don't face each other wait is it rock guy versus freaking mace guy three oh Jesus okay [Music] finish him oh [ __ ] this guy's on a rampage oh my God
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Post-Affirmative Action ruling: Understanding the implications
foreign [Music] good afternoon everyone welcome to this policy talks at the Ford School event presented in partnership with the Ford School Center for racial Justice I am Mata Cecilia hostel the political scientist here at the Ford school and the research director of the center for racial Justice I'm joined today by my esteem colleague judge Laurel baby blunt 10th District Court of Appeals judge for the state of Ohio and Ford school towsley policy maker in Residence we're here today to talk about the various legal social and political implications of last week's affirmative action ruling by the U.S Supreme Court we have people joining from the Ford school and all across the university and Beyond so this conversation will be big picture in its focus we received audience questions in advance of today's event thank you to everyone who submitted those questions and we'll field those in the last 20 minutes of our time together but if you didn't submit a question in advance please feel free to type your questions in the YouTube chat box or tweet them to hashtag policytalks and our amazing team will do our best to lead them into this conversation so thank you judge baby blunt for being here I'm really thrilled to have this conversation with you um I wanted to start off by just asking you if you could provide us with a general overview of the legal trajectory of affirmative action cases in the U.S and summarize the key takeaways from this most recent ruling how did we get to where we are today with affirmative action and what does this really mean thank you for having me Dr osfeld it's my certainly my pleasure to be here even um as an ohioan but you know as many of us know affirmative action has been a topic in the Supreme Court actually for quite a while starting with a case from 1978 um involving the Regents of the University of California and a white male by the last name backy who had been denied admission to the medical school despite having higher test scores than minority students who had been admitted that year and what the University of California was using was a quota system where they had a hundred spots in the medical school and they would Reserve 16 of those for minorities and what happened and the reason why we even keep going back at Baki is that the Supreme Court issued what's called a plurality opinion there so it wasn't like your typical 5-4 what it was was three justices said that that quota system violated the equal protection clause and three justices said that it was okay to consider race as long as there was a compelling interest then you had justice Powell who actually came right in the middle and joined both opinions so even after that opinion um because it was a plurality opinion there was a debate about the precedent um that was set with that opinion after that I'm sure many of you um know about the grops case in the grudder case that both involved white females in 2003 that were denied admission to University of Michigan undergrad program in the case of Gratz in the case of grudder it was the University of Michigan law school um two different results here really because there were two different methods being used and um so what the undergrad system did was use a points-based admission system that granted 20 points for race and the majority said that that was completely unconstitutional because it did not evaluate each applicant individually and actually resulted in the admission of nearly every applicant of an underrepresentative minority status uh grudder was a little bit different because what the law school was doing they didn't have a point system or anything like that they just looked at each application and considered race as part of the law school like Mission um and the Supreme Court came out a little bit different on that because they said that since it was a more individualized test then that was okay because it was more narrowly tailored towards the goal and then finally many of us also know about Fisher versus the University of Texas where a white female was denied admission there but the majority in that case said that race the use of race was okay as long it was a factor in a holistic review but still narrow or to serve a compelling interest what changes with the most recent case partly is that we have different plaintiffs here you know we do not we have an organization that is representing a group of anonymous Asian students and one of those students has um come out and spoken out about how happy he is about how the Supreme Court ruled in the case but you know that did make a difference and what our Supreme Court said was that admissions programs that do not have a sufficiently focused and measurable objectives that warrant the use of race employ racial stereotype typing of any kind and lack meaningful endpoints are inconsistent with equal protection clause and fail scrutiny but here's the thing um at the there is um in footnote four chief justice Roberts um had in there that the opinion does not deal with the issue of military academies um and we also know that this these cases also only deal with race they don't deal with any other group but I think it's also notable Dr osfeld that what happens is that in that first case of baki Justice Powell Justice Powell um explicitly says that this is not about making up for any ills of the past okay and so that argument is now completely off the table um but it's brought back up in um Justice Brown Jackson's dissent but that was pretty that case back in the 70s was really the first time that that was brought up but never again the the rationale for affirmative action throughout the litigation since then has been more about creating diverse student bodies so we have um a different argument and then probably the most consequential thing the most consequential thing is that um we um I'm sorry the most consequential thing is that we have a completely different Supreme Court um and so we see that um while politics aren't supposed to come into play while on the bench it certainly comes into play in how you get there okay so you just highlighted a lot of information and I know there's a lot to parse through in this very very long opinion so if you were going to say there's two or three things that you want people to have in mind as they think through the things that are clear and the things that aren't clear and interpreting this decision moving forward what what would you want people to have in mind um I think that you know I stick I think that there is still a question and the reason I think that there's a still still a question is again the military academies the opinion does not address military academies and so it begs the question why might military academies be different um and then also you know the opinion lays out you know disdain for considering race even in essays but then in the very last part of the opinion it says that you you might be able to address race it's just that it has to be tied to something based in your character or in your experience or something like that and I think that you know a lot of people will argue that race is tied to your life experience and so that means that race still can be considered and so we will have to see how it plays out because what is certainly going to happen is more litigation okay I want to focus on this first point that you raised that military footnote um I thought that was really interesting and I thought it was interesting because there's a suggestion that that exception is based on this interest of National Security and so for a long time it just made me think of how for a long time conservatives had kind of used this colorblind language that liberals once used to kind of reframe a lot of um racially reparative efforts is this National Security language something that liberals can now use to kind of read like twist the framing and use that language to assert different ends then maybe conservatives had intended or yeah can you pull this apart a little bit more you know I I would expect that there will be arguments to that to that end because all of this if you think about it Dr ozfield all of this is is somewhat about flipping language over because what the Supreme Court is doing here is saying yes you know is acknowledging that we the whole reason we have the equal protection Clause is because things that were happening to people who had been enslaved right they they go through the history of it but then they're also saying that the equal protection Clause protects white people and Asian people too so so there's nothing um to prevent that from happening um and then it's also very interesting I think that there although a lawsuit wasn't filed um there is a group of minority groups that are actually going through the administrative route and they filed a complaint with the Department of Education um saying that Legacies are against you know equal protection and and what they do they use a lot of the same language that came out in the opinion um the SFA opinion because they're they're saying um they quote the SFA opinion to say admissions is a zero-sum game so if you're admitting legacies then you're taking away a spot from someone else just like SFA said if you're if you're considering race you're admitting people and taking spots away from someone else um they use Justice Roberts language um from SFA that says eliminating racism means eliminating all racism so I think that there's a lot of different contexts where people are using the language for their purposes I really liked it was interesting again going back to that military point I liked I saw this language that Sotomayor had used and she had said to the extent the courts suggest National Security interests are distinct those interests cannot explain the Court's narrow exemption as National Security interests are also implicated at civilian universities where they're doing all their ROTC recruiting programs including in on Harvard and unc's campus so I thought it was interesting how she wove that back in and then she also highlights that history teaches us that racial diversity is a national security imperative so you see the beginning I thought of these reframing of how we think about National Security interests to explicitly include diversity just like it seemed like Roberts was going down that direction right right and you know it's it's interesting Mara like you know from a judge's perspective I wonder what happened because the way that my court um does opinions for example so if I'm the author of the opinion I send it to the next judge who and then we work on it together and then it gets sent to the third judge the way the Supreme Court does it is they conference and they decide who's going to write what and then the drafts just fly and so you know it's it's feasible that what happened was was Justice Roberts saw Justice sotomayores um descent and he wanted to address the military issue in the majority and then he dropped that footnote and ran out of time before the tournament did oh that's interesting you know it could be that simple yeah that's really interesting okay so you raised this other point about and we've already seen the beginning of litigation around or people talking about litigation around legacy admissions but there was also discussion of all these other kind of um not necessarily set-asides but considerations for other attributes like again legacy admissions children of donors children of Faculty athletes people who are from a state that doesn't you know they don't get as many applicants from so do you see this as bleeding over into all of those considerations do you see limits on how many of those types of other considerations that this might extend to it absolutely could blend over because like when I say expect more litigation I mean expect more litigation from both sides because proponents um of lots of of um affirmative action um like I said are already using this opinion to say okay let's take this reasoning and apply it to other areas again in this case the legacies opponents of affirmative action will use this opinion um as a springboard as a basis to argue that it should go into other areas other Industries and that is not hurt unheard of because if you go back and think about it Brown versus Board of Education that's exactly what happened Brown versus Board of Education was about um segregation in education but then it served as the basis um to argue against segregation and many other contexts so I would expect that this this opinion is a springboard for opponents and proponents to both use to argue different things okay so then you're connecting it not just the different types of considerations we give to applicants but to other things like hiring and Contracting and pipeline programs I mean there's already been concerns in some schools and in some states about you know student clubs and organizations that are explicitly for women or explicitly for you know Latino engineering students or anything I I do you see this as extending to all of those or do you see this as right now more narrowly focused on education you know I I'm not really sure right now everything's focused on education but but like I said I am first of all like when you go back you know a lot of there's one person that's behind a lot of the um litigation opposing affirmative action his name's Edward Bloom um and when you go and listen to his interviews and things even since the decision he is at the ready um because he thinks that like Harvard and UNC and different schools are going to try and work around the SFA opinion and he is ready um to bring more lawsuits to challenge whatever those workarounds might be do you see him have you seen the seeds of other types of legal strategies from people who are kind of working with him or from himself or do you see other strategies already starting to percolate among people who want to see affirmative action reinstated it's both it's both you know you know Edward Bloom has been involved in strategic litigation against affirmative action for a really long time and when I say strategic litigation you know what you're doing is you're you're you have um you're using the courts in order to change something about society and so you know you're picking certain plaintiffs you're filing your cases in certain courts and typically in both the case of affirmative action and the pro-life movement you know they have been ready and willing and able to engage in years of litigation using different plaintiffs using different arguments and then at the same time um try to influence judicial nominations so that then you know if they do get up to the Supreme Court they have a court makeup that is friendly to their is um but but again at the same time you know we're already seeing things about legacies um being filed so both sides are at the ready and there will be more litigation and and again Dr Oswald you know this whole all of those cases that I talked about only dealt with race um they only dealt with race um and and you know I think that's you know part of what people who are upset about this opinion are upset about um because they feel as though um the arguments I hear them making is that um you have up you know turned upside down 50 years of precedent and this is going to be a bad thing for um people of color trying to get into schools while the other side is arguing that the constitution says what it says it says equal protection for all people um and so you can't turn around and use any type of policies that then uh put white people or non-people of color um whatever group you're dealing with at a disadvantage yeah I mean it's it's so frustrating because obviously racism implicit shaping someone institutions and the outcomes of so many people's experiences and lives and that we can't formally account for it despite this ongoing amount of evidence that it affects so many lived experiences yeah and you know it's it's also interesting uh Dr rossfeld when I was reading about um the the challenge to legacy admissions you know when they look at Harvard what they're alleging is that um of the legacy admissions that 70 of them were white and that it and that it made um you six times they allege that it made you six times more likely to get admitted um to the college which is you know those are some big numbers you know they're they're probably bigger than the numbers that um we're dealing with when we're looking at race as a consideration in admissions yeah that's a really interesting comparison in it it kind of exacerbates all the other disparities because when you think about who had access to you know to going to college especially in Elite College like this one generation two generations ago that were already recreating disparities that persisted for so long um I mean it gets into this other question that we've seen starting to emerge about how effective in states that have already had bans on affirmative action in the Washingtons and Californians and Michigan we've seen these Alternatives be proposed or ways of getting around kind of still trying to diversify classes that don't look supposed to be mentioned rates have you seen um any of them be particularly effective have you seen challenges to any of those well here here is I think because the the biggest the people who are challenged the most right now are the admissions officers of colleges as well as the legal departments because we cannot forget that while the legal department you know um tells you what you can do part of their job is risk management you know and so they're trying to avoid trouble and or avoid lawsuits and so when you look at the SFA opinion you know chief justice Robert talks a lot about measurement and what can be measured and so here's here's the tricky thing is that if you then go back and try and say um you know with a study or or whatever oh well you know um this is what happened when you had this number of diverse students in the classroom versus this is what happens when you did it you know now have you admitted that you violated the equal protection clause in the SFA case because you're you're trying to the case says that it can't be measured and you're trying to measure it but in trying to measure it you're going to be doing what the case says you can't do so they are in um you know they're in a difficult spot right now but I think that um while It's Tricky you know both Harvard and UNC in their statements after the opinion instead that they were going to try and I can't remember the exact wording that they used but what they were going to try and do was to stick with um their values that diversity is important um as well as comply with the ruling so we will see what happens next yeah I've seen a lot of discussion about how the you know the externalities that this can have on just efforts to or concern because of concerns about litigation there will be this hyper compliance and that people you know staying away from anything that might be perceived as some type of race-based consideration that will further harm a lot of students of color you know it's really interesting Dr Rossville because you also um see the same things happening with abortions you know people don't want to get sued right trust me I know because they're never smiling when they come see me so you know people so you know and like I said part of a University's legal department is a risk management um but you know and so it will come down to that risk management as well as prioritization um as to you know their student body and what they want to do with it I do also think and and this is um you know kind of segues more into your area Dr Austin and I think you know one thing that we see that's interesting is um that people are really seeing how our government is set up so like I said you know our government is set up to keep judges out of politics you know the justices go through a nomination process they are not voted upon they're not they're not uh they don't answer to voters and um as well they don't have terms it's a lifetime appointment once you get on there you're on there until you're not and so um we're I think a lot of people are feeling frustrated because they don't feel that the Supreme Court is accountable to the people um and so I would remind them that you know if you like this decision or you don't like this where voters come in is through voting their participation in presidential elections in USA um they're not their hands aren't a hundred percent tied when it comes to Supreme Court Justices and so I would say anybody who is happy or unhappy about this decision uh your redress is at the bout box absolutely and that highlights again like you said the importance of not just presidential elections but as we saw on Obama's second term he needed to Senate and so we need to make sure we vote at all levels um and that's a really interesting point we've also seen people engage with is how we saw abortion have such a big impact on how people voted in the elections um in the midterm elections so a lot of people are starting to wonder how will this effect turnout and um in the general election next year and so we've already seen some some interesting polling around this and that's what I love to look at is the polling but I think what's tricky is that um the thing that tends to increase the likelihood of turnout is anger and so the question is are enough people angry about this to turn out and then the two things that determine election outcomes are Independence and turnout and so we see that a lot of Independence this is not a top issue there's a lot of Independents who say they they kind of feel in the middle they they're not sure how they feel about this so there's not a lot of evidence that this ruling in particular is going to push Independents in One Direction or another we'll see if the other rulings do but as of right now these issues don't seem to be like a big issue for Independence the other issue is if we especially for the likelihood of Democrats getting into any office is getting turned out especially among younger voters and voters of color that's something that swings a lot and tends to determine the outcome of races and so whether people are angry enough about this to actually want to make sure they go out not only in both themselves but encourage their colleagues and their friends to vote remains to be seen something that um I think is also important to note is that you know anger tends to be a really powerful and motivating emotion for some people it tends to be really effective among white voters but because voters of color tend to face more stigma for expressing or demonstrating anger it tends to be less motivating as a voting Outreach mobilization tool for voters of color so that's also raised some concerns among some organizers and activists it I have a question for you too Dr osville this is this is out of my out of my legal expertise um but I can't I'm thinking about this decision and I'm thinking about information that we have from the Census that is you know showing us that the United States is becoming more diverse um and then I'm also trying to think about it in light of the research that we have around a K-12 education you know we're having this conversation without talking about how how people get there in the first place um and so I I really also just wonder you know how this plays out not only in five years but in 20 years I think that's a really good point and I think you you're like seguing into another important point that a lot of people have highlighted like of course this is really concerning and this is impactful because we know people who go to the institutions that are most likely to rely on affirmative action the more selective institutions tend to have greater access to positions of extraordinary power especially in American politics and economics and various forms of decision making but it some people have highlighted that it kind of um shifts the focus from the institutions that tend to be the places that educate the majority of students and especially the majority of students of color and those are institutions that tend to have acceptance rates above 25 only six percent of students that go to college go to schools that accept 25 or less of their applicants and so some people have raised questions about you know what maybe we should take this opportunity to focus more on the state schools and schools that are educating so many more students of color as well do have you heard that do you have any reactions to that argument I I really just you as a lawyer not an admissions officer I just I wonder um I I understand how some people argue that this decision is great in theory but in practice is not is not going to pan out well um one other thing that I wanted to bring up that that I thought was interesting and I also thought it was interesting where I saw it highlighted you know as a judge I'm I'm trained to consider both sides right so I was watching a show that Laura Ingram did on Fox Nation and they were having a discussion during her show about when Justice Powell was in the middle in the back position he went to justice Thurgood Marshall and said well how long do you think that this is going to um how long will it take for black people to catch up and Thurgood Marshall said 100 years and so I also wonder um had the court makeup been different had there been a different majority is there good Marshall's opinion was the majority um that talked about we are you know we're trying to help the people who had been enslaved for Generations how how this might be different and where would we be because we'd be at a completely different starting point in our legal analysis even if one vote had been different on the Supreme Court back when I was four years old that's a really weaving a question from the audience someone in the audience asked if you could clarify does this mean you won't have to put your race into an application or you still do and it's just not considered so what it is you know like I said the opinion says no you can't even consider race um at all and then it says don't you can't since the language is something like you can't do indirectly what we have said you directly can't do in those last couple paragraphs say leave a possibility that for example if the question is one about character or adversity or something like that that you can talk about how your race has helped you overcome adversity um so that's another reason why we'll be back here okay because I thought they were still gonna like they still were gonna measure race just not they're just not allowed to account for it and admissions decisions but I thought they were gonna still track that data just so they could have the data that we have in Michigan for example we have data on in California on how many students of color applied how many were admitted and how many accepted we'll still be collecting that data though right or are you saying I think you do still collect the data okay but it's whether it's considered an admissions that's you okay you know what I mean and and also now when I look at the question it says does this mean that you won't have to put your race into an application yes there will be scenarios where you won't because you know the only Avenue that might still be okay is in an effort or in an essay tying your race to some type of experience or adversity or opinion or whatever but you might be able to answer those questions without putting your race in there um so you know it kind of depends on the applicant you know if you want to show if you don't want to show that you come from an underrepresented group you don't put it in there and if you do the essays might be might uh be a way for you to get that in there okay I mean this leads into something else that we saw after 209 in California after affirmative action was banned in California we saw this additional momentum around something called um proposition 54 and the goal was okay say now we're not we're not accounting for race and hiring decisions This was um more Connolly um arguing we shouldn't even be measuring race and so that that was really troubling because if you're not measuring rates you can't show that there's ongoing disparities you can't show exactly the lived experiences you can't validate the the adversity and the Discrimination that people are going through and so I would be very troubled if it wasn't included on um applications just for the purpose of documenting Trends I think that would lead us down an even more problematic code and it was interesting because that that proposition became came very close to passing but it was a medical community that lobbied against it saying we need this data to document Health Trends and that was kind of flipping over I also want to go back you've referred to um you need a couple references to kind of remedying not even remedying but starting to begin the long road that we need to embark on to um engage in type of restorative and reparative efforts in response to hundreds of years of enslavement and I thought it was really interesting because I heard I read a little bit about and one of the um questions in around this case Kavanaugh actually left an opening for educational benefits to descendants of slaves and he specifically said a benefit to the Senate the place would not be race-based correct he asked that to a lawyer arguing for the end of race-based affirmative action and I remember he said if that's correct then the benefit for descendants of former slaves is also not race-based and so I thought that left a really interesting opening that you know there are you know there were Native Americans who were enslaved and so descendants of slave could be another way to um account for this in Remedy or continue to engage in some of these efforts and and that is actually a criticism that some of the opponents of affirmative action have of his concurrence because it's their opinion that you know if you follow his line of reasoning you're just going to open the floodgates you know for anyone who has been wronged you know for hundreds of years or hundreds of seconds to then claim that they should you know whatever their ill was should be included and considered yeah I mean at the same time we've had plenty of reparations in American history we give reparations to Farmers every time there's a natural disaster we've given reparations to Japanese Americans after internment camps so I think there is a precedent for reparations um in our country and I I hope that this presents an opening for us to be taken more more seriously but we'll see um and since you mentioned precedent there was one thing I I also wanted to point out is that you know do not be super duper quick to just say oh this court is horrible they have you know just ignored so much precedent um because how you look at precedent kind of depends on where you are on the issue of course and and I I would remind people that um we had Plessy versus Ferguson separate with people for a very long time and then it was Brown versus Board of Education that went against that precedent and so depending on your opinion of you know it and I will confess as a judge precedent is one of the first things we look for it is something in the law that is honored and valued but I think depending on what side you're on it can be a good thing not to go with precedent well it was interesting too because I think judge Roberts or Justice Roberts started off um his opinion by citing judge Harlan and when he overturned or wrote his opinion over turning Plessy versus Ferguson using the language of aspiring for a colorblind society and so I think it also reminds us of how important language is and how we have to be careful about how language can be used absolutely 100 right on that because when you start reading the opinion you almost think he's going the other way I know I okay so we have a um one of the first questions from um that was submitted in advance and uh someone asked do you think universities public private or both could Splash would try to circumvent this ruling and if so how I don't know if you have thought from that I see I know how some schools have talked about responding to it but I don't know if you have any thoughts that you want to First share um you know from a legal standpoint I um would just caution them again both sides are on the ready to attack anything that people try and do to get around this um so we'll we'll just have to see what happens some things that I've heard um a lot of and a lot of states have already used is one thing is what they call these like Texas hesitant Texas 10 California had this um they would accept super the top two percent of students from any High School in the UC system they were all guaranteed or as the top four percent and then change to the top nine percent um and the goal was to recognize that a lot of our um K-12 institutions are heavily segregated so if we guarantee admission um to the top two or four or ten or whatever percent of students from every high school then that will help circumvent this in a way that's still race blind or race neutral and there is evidence that you know there was this big reduction in students of color on college campuses after affirmative action was banned when they when Texas and California implemented these these um percent policies that did increase enrollment from black latino native students relative to when it was banned but it was nowhere near the effect of one affirmative action was in place it did improve the socioeconomic representation of students that there were more low-income students but again it didn't increase um it didn't get us anywhere near where things were when race was explicitly accounted for and it was interesting because again these policies are really having the biggest effect that the most selective institutions and so those are the places where you're really seeing these policies come into play and change admission policies like in California it was UCLA and Berkeley that had these big effects but the other institutions didn't there's also more efforts to engage and we've seen I um I think Justice Thomas was actually talking about this was often referred to as these holistic review policies where um it eliminates the use of fixed weights but offer you know encourages universities to account for a wide variety of criteria not race but including things like the percent of people who didn't speak English as their first language in the district that you grew up with the number of people living under the poverty line things like that to account for access to a lot of the things that tend to privilege applicants mostly white mostly wealthy applicants in the admission process um that also had some benefits relative to just a straight ban on affirmative action but it was nowhere near um getting us back to where the demographics of college campuses were one affirmative action was in place so we see what percent policies the holistic reviews um a lot of schools if schools have more resources they'll invest more into Recruitment and pipeline program so we've seen Michigan try to do more of that try to focus again not on a special racial demographic but certain municipalities um where there tend not to be a large a heavy pipeline students applying from we've seen student schools push for droppings test requirements and hope that that would have some positive effects it doesn't really it doesn't increase the diversity of campuses um especially on an undergraduate level and then there was a couple other smaller possibilities just having one with them having students talk about the adversity that they've overcome whether it's racial adversity economic adversity mental health adversity ability adversity anything like that and there's been some discussion of of what that's going to lead to if that's if that's just going to lead to this type of poverty porn or adversity porn where everyone's trying to say I'm the most harmed and you know that's a chance it's something real we're incentivizing people to reduce themselves to the greatest form of adversity and is that the context that we want to create especially when we also want people to be in a place where they can recognize their privilege it's kind of being able to account um for both of those dynamics that I I think is important in his attention that a lot of schools are grappling with but I thought that was a great question and you know also Dr ozfield you you know I I think about you know because some Advocate that um admissions should just be grades and task scores you know but I don't I think particularly again when you consider that Census Data um you can be the smartest person in the world and not know how to lead anybody and I don't necessarily and when I say lead anyone I mean um lead a movement but I also mean lead a staff of five you know what I mean unless you are aware of certain things um you've had experience with different things or you're or at least willing to know what you don't know all of that can come into play as to how successful you are no matter where your degree is from um and so I really I really wonder about how this works out long term because in many ways like when you talk about colleges and universities to my point it becomes a Workforce issue but also you know we can't ignore again the research that we have available to us about what's happening in K-12 education about the social determinants of Health Access to education being one of them and how all of that comes into play to who's applying in the first place what you can consider well and it's interesting because after it it was I think it's important to note that after affirmative action was banned in Michigan and Texas in California there's a lot of evidence it didn't just affect admissions it affected the likelihood of students applying and so I think it's important to Think Through the psychological effects on whether I will be given you know appropriate consideration and what's the context I'm going into am I walking into a context that feels frustrated with students of color and that has you know an externality a negative externality on you know maintaining a diverse and inclusive education environment could you talk a little bit more about um what happened in California and Michigan I I'm drawing a blank on the number in California but I know it's proposition two in Michigan yeah in proposition 209 in California so what tell us a little bit more about what happened after those well it's interesting in the 90s in California right as and we often see this happening as an area becomes more diverse we see we start to see more policies put into play that kind of are these backlash policies so we saw this influx of policies targeting Latinos and communities of color in the 90s in California and proposition 209 and the 54 were some of them I mean going back to your point about the census is then as the populations begin to diversify that means people in positions of power then later become elevated to you know representatives and stuff and so we start so then later on see policies start to shift often in a more racially liberal Direction which is what has happened in many ways in California and they follow in other contexts like Texas there's been a lot of speculation about how the diversification of Texas um and how the fact that white people are projected to be a minority or people are expected to be a player reality how that may eventually change the politics of the state we'll see if that actually plays out but um but again we have a couple States we have Arizona California Florida Michigan Idaho Nebraska New Hampshire Oklahoma and Washington all have some form of affirmative action ban and in each of these context students um are further from parity with their you know proportion of the state's population their share of the safe population than in states that have some type of affirmative action program so we have an abundance of data that this really harms students of color again from the admission from the application stage and the context of Admissions and then the context of acceptance rates and so um we have a lot of evidence to this point that this is going to be a hurdle I want to make sure we get to some of these other questions um I have another question what's the best strategy for protecting this at the state level if we can't get it protected at the federal level is uh judge baby blunt is there a path for that is that possible since this was a federal ruling um that would be really tough because you know all of this comes down to federal funding [Music] um and I mean I again I'm not in admissions but I would imagine that almost all colleges and universities get Federal funding don't they not all but most I mean Harvest yourself as well right so um it's really it's going to be tough to um say for example do something through State legislation or something like that because again Edward Bloom is at the ready to sue about it yeah what's the story I want to know his story how did he get to that point I have so many questions you know that's a really good question I will know to you though it's always been about race it has never um you know when you watch his interviews and everything it's always about race um he doesn't mention um women it doesn't mention Geographics anything like that that's really interesting okay another question from the audience how do institutions of Higher Learning and indeed Society repair the centuries long disparities in education that denied those descendants of Enclave the African as a pathway to equity I don't know I I'm going back to I I think there's a need for reparations and I think that reparations needs to in research that's been done on this topic it needs for it to have the healing effect that really transforms the society and increases social trust um it needs to explicitly recognize the race-based nature of the Dynamics of slavery of Jim Crow of redlining of mass incarceration for it to have the the necessary healing effect that we want it to have so I think it's it's going to be something that we keep pumping up against um I I agree with you Dr osfeld um and all of these by the way are my personal opinions and their opinions of Laurel baby blunt not judge um but I think that until we deal with the issues of our past um it's going to keep coming up um because I I think that it's not necessarily a good thing that those arguments about remediation and everything it's not necessarily a good thing that they were taken out of the equation way back in the 70s right and it's interesting because I heard someone mention that that there there had been quotas had been used prior to that vacuum ruling they just had been used to exclude students of color as opposed to provide a seat for them so it's interesting how our views of these different tools change depending on who is harmed and who benefits okay one more audience question and then I have my own final question for you judge um the audience question is what do these rulings abortion in 2022 lgbtq rights affirmative action mean for the future of the Supreme Court and their legitimacy how can we as activists mobilize in response to the ruling um here's the thing we always have to consider both sides and I understand that people question the legitimacy of the Supreme Court people who disagree with the Supreme Court's rulings question the legitimacy of the Supreme Court there are a lot of people out there that agree with what the Supreme Court did and consider the Supreme Court very legitimate um so you know we can't forget that um and then again you know I I am feeling the frustration of the people who disagree with these opinions um and uh part of the frustration that I pick up from them is the fact that they don't feel like Supreme Court Justices um are either in tune with the public or accountable to the public and the the way that they are again is through to the president that nominates them in the Senate that confirms them [Music] um because you know if you look back you know um we Justice Alito who was the author of The Dobbs opinion um way back before you know President Reagan had nominated Harry Myers who was met with a lot of opposition and so then she withdrew we got Alito um you know Merrick Garland was not given a hearing you know there's lots of ways you know the makeup of a Supreme Court is years in the making um so they're particularly short term there is um not a lot that we can do right now um if you disagree but um whether you agree or disagree again your recourse is at The Ballot Box through the president through U.S senators um I would also if I could just really quickly point out I've had a lot of young people reach out to me um you know feeling that you know wow I'm gonna get a different standard than even my brother and feeling um bad about this decision um to them I would say if you you whether you agree or disagree really if you you have to have a short-term game in a long-term game so with your short-term game remember you know be careful with your choices be look at where you're applying to school look at where you spend your money be conscious of who you vote for and then in the long term game prepare yourself for leadership compare yourself for when you are the decision maker and then that's when you're at the table to keep things the way they are or to change them going back to voting and investing in that pipeline investing that pipeline for who's in elected office for who's going into judicial seats to you know reshaping what our future would look like conservatives and opponents of affirmative action we're very strategic opponents of abortion had a legal strategy that was years in the making years yeah a lot of critiques that people who were supportive of these policies had not invested as much into strategies to kind of build these legal cases and build these judicial panels and I also um don't want to give strategic litigation a bad name either because while um adoption or adoption um abortion and affirmative action there's been strategic litigation around them for a long time we also can't forget that strategic litigation Thurgood Marshall being one of the main Craftsmen was is also what got us Brown versus education yep um so it's not you know in our polarized Society we tend to want to go that things are all good or all bad and nothing you know it's very mutually exclusive and that's not necessarily the case absolutely not that's a really good point okay we only have a couple minutes and I want to get one thing from you I want to know in one minute what are your biggest concerns and biggest hopes going forward in response to this ruling um my biggest concern is that people um don't they don't know how our government is set up quite frankly you know I run for office every six years and spend most of my time educating and so unfortunately because a lot of people were never taught or they've forgotten they're having some really bad and shocking um reactions to some of the opinions that have come out of the Supreme Court um and so my hope is that they will you know again whether you agree or disagree My Hope though is that that will um prompt people to become involved in the process um because our whole system you know remember you all like our whole system is set up because the colonists were mad that the British could just come over here and do whatever they wanted right and they wanted the people to govern and in order for the people to govern they have to know what they're governing about and and how they can affect the process so I I really hope that this Spurs um uh people to become engaged my fear is what I'm hearing from young people because I think that they feel that you know the baby boomer generation um and all the research shows that like gen Z thinks very differently than the Baby Boomers so they're feeling like the Baby Boomers are making decisions for them that they very strongly disagree with and so my fear is that that leads to apathy yeah that leads to ah it doesn't matter anyway coming from someone who had a friend that lost his election last cycle by 274 votes that scares me um I I really hope the flip happens whether you love this or you hate this I just hope that it prompts you to become involved instead of to stick your head in the sand that's a great point I'm gonna highlight my concerns and hopes as well my concerns I think are what I mentioned before I'm very afraid there was this movement towards Banning collection of data on Race that we saw start to emerge in California and um there are seeds of that in other states so I'm really nervous about those bans on collecting data on race at all I think that would be a huge detriment to the tracking of disparities and just acknowledgment of where we are in terms of addressing racial inequality and making steps towards doing more work on that front um I think it's really concerning to think about how this might be extended to other industries from hiring to Contracting college is super powerful it's a really influential for six years of your life but hiring can could extend on you know affect a much larger population for a much longer period of time in some ways so I think that's really scary I've seen a lot of more discussion about reverse discrimination claims um unsettled to see those spiking up more and then as you said judge earlier this this hyper-compliance efforts to avoid litigation by you know trying to stay away from any racial conscious policies at all I think that would be a really sad effect of this if things come that way but I will say I I felt really inspired when Kavanaugh raised that point about you know um giving benefits to descendants of former slaves that that's not race-based so I think when he said that I was like well that's an opening I saw an opening when Sotomayor started talking about framing kind of diversity as something that's important to National Security and now we have evidence that a lot of justices see diversity in certain contexts especially in the context of the military as essential to National Security so I see opportunities to extend um some race conscious policies on both of those fronts and it will be great to see where that goes judge I am so grateful to you for joining us today and for getting this time to talk to you I'm thankful for everyone who came and shared their questions and I look forward to continuing these conversations thank you for having me it's always a pleasure
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Cyrus - of Persia old Persian curves new Persian curves Hebrew cores modern core ace Tiberian quarries C 602 530 BC commonly known as Cyrus they're great and also called Cyrus the elder by the Greeks was the founder of the Achaemenid Empire the first Persian Empire under his rule the Empire embraced all the previous civilized states of the ancient Near East expanded vastly and eventually conquered most of Southwest Asia and much of Central Asia in the Caucasus from the Mediterranean Sea and Hellespont in the West to the Indus River in the East Cyrus the Great created the largest empire the world had yet seen under his successors the Empire eventually stretched at its maximum extent from parts of the Balkans Bulgaria paeonia and Thrace Macedonia and Eastern Europe proper in the West to the Indus Valley in the east his regal titles in full were the Great King king of Persia king of on Shan king of media king of Babylon king of Sumer and Akkad and king of the four corners of the world the nabonidus Chronicle notes the change in his title from simply king of on Shan a city - king of Persia Assyria lodgest Francois Vallot wrote that when a stage is marched against Cyrus Cyrus is called king of on Shan but when Cyrus crosses the Tigris on his way to Lydia he is king of Persia the coup therefore took place between these two events the reign of Cyrus the Great lasted C 30 years Cyrus built his empire by first conquering the median Empire then the Lydian Empire and eventually the neo-babylonian empire he led an expedition into Central Asia which resulted in major campaigns that were described as having brought into subjection every nation without exception Cyrus did not venture into Egypt and was alleged to have died in battle fighting the message T along the syr darya in december 530 BC he was succeeded by his son Cambyses ii who managed to conquer Egypt Nubia and Cyrenaica during his short rule cyrus the great respected the customs and religions of the lands he conquered this became a very successful model for centralized administer and establishing a government working to the advantage and profit of its subjects in fact the administration of the Empire through satraps and the vital principle of forming a government at pasar today were the works of Cyrus what is sometimes referred to as the Edict of restoration actually two edicts described in the Bible as being made by Cyrus the Great left a lasting legacy on the Jewish religion where because of his policies in Babylonia he is referred to by the Jewish Bible as Messiah lit his anointed one Isaiah chapter 45 verse 1 and as the only non-jewish figure in the Bible to be called so Cyrus the Great is also well recognized for his achievements in human rights politics and military strategy as well as his influence on both Eastern and Western civilization's having originated from Persis roughly corresponding to the modern Iranian province of FOSS Cyrus has played a crucial role in defining the national identity of modern Iran the Achaemenid influence in the ancient world eventually would extend as far as Athens where upper-class Athenians adopted aspects of the culture of the ruling class of a commanded Persian as their own in the 1970s the last Shah of Iran Mohammad Reza Pahlavi identified his famous Proclamation inscribed onto the Cyrus cylinder as the oldest known declaration of human rights and the cylinder has since been popularized as such this view has been criticized by some historians as a misunderstanding of the cylinders generic nature as a traditional statement that new monarchs make at the beginning of their reign topic background topic topic etymology topic the name cyrus as a latinized form derived from the greek Kairos Kairos itself from the old persian Kuras the name in its meaning has been recorded in ancient inscriptions in different languages the ancient Greek historians tegus and Plutarch noted that Cyrus was named from Kouros the son a concept which has been interpreted as meaning like the Sun curved ash by noting its relation to the Persian noun for son core while using vash as a suffix of likeness this may also point to a relationship to the mythological first king of Persia Jamshid whose name also incorporates the element son shid Carl Hoffman has suggested a translation based on the meaning of an indo-european root to humiliate and accordingly Cyrus means Humiliator of the enemy in verbal contests in the Persian language and especially in Iran Cyrus's name is spelled as quirch Kuo in the Bible he is known as Koresh Hebrew core topic dynastic history topic the Persian domination and Kingdom in the Iranian plateau started by an extension of the Achaemenid dynasty who expanded their earlier domination possibly from the ninth century BC onward the eponymous founder of this dynasty was at k-means from old persian hawk zamani's akima nudes are descendants of a k-means as Darius the great the 9th king of the dynasty traces his genealogy to him and declares for this reason we are called at keema needs a K means built the state par sumesh in the southwest of Iran and was succeeded by Tyson who took the title king of on Shan after seizing on Shan city and enlarging his kingdom further to include pars proper ancient documents mentioned that types had a son called Cyrus I who also succeeded his father as king of on Shan Cyrus I had a full brother whose name has recorded as area reminisce in 600 BC Cyrus I was succeeded by his son canvasses the first who reigned until 559 BC Cyrus the Great was a son of Cambyses the first who named his son after his father Cyrus I there are several inscriptions of Cyrus the Great and later Kings that refer to Cambyses the first is the great king and king of on Shan among these are some passages in the Cyrus cylinder where Cyrus calls himself son of Cambyses Great King king of on Shan another inscription from cm/s mentions Cambyses the first as mighty king and Ana kami Mian which according to the bulk of scholarly opinion was engraved under Darius and considered as a later forgery by Darius however Cambyses ii s maternal grandfather farness is named by Herodotus s and a kami Mian to Xenophon s accountant Saira pedia further names Cambyses s wife is mundane and mentions Cambyses as king of iran ancient persia these agree with cyrus s own inscriptions as on shan and Parsa were different names of the same land these also agree with other non iranian accounts except at one point from Herodotus stating that Cambyses was not a king but a persian of good family however in some other passages Herodotus s account is wrong also on the name of the son of chashmah Sh which he mentions his Cambyses but according to modern scholars should be cyrus i the traditional view based on archaeological research and the genealogy given in the b histone inscription and by Herodotus holds that Cyrus the Great was Aniki minute however it has been suggested by M waters that Cyrus is unrelated to the Achaemenid Tsar Darius the great and that his family was of Thai spit and ancien ight origin instead of a key minute topic early life topic Cyrus was born to Cambyses the first king of on Shan and mundane daughter of a Stooges king of media during the period of 600 to 599 BC by his own account generally believed now to be accurate Cyrus was preceded as king by his father canvas as the first grandfather Cyrus I and great-grandfather Cyrus married kiss and Ain who was Anna camión and the daughter of far NIST's who bore him two sons canvases the second and Bardia along with three daughters Atossa rd stone and Roxane Cyrus and Kison Dayne were known to love each other very much kiss and Ain said that she found it more bitter to leave Cyrus than to depart her life after her death Cyrus insisted on public mourning throughout the kingdom the Navin itest Chronicle states that Babylonia mourn kiss and aim for six days identified from 21 to 26 March 538 BC after his father s death Cyrus inherited the Persian throne at pasar Gede a which was a vassal of a Stooges it is also noted that Strabo has said that Cyrus was originally named Agra dates by his stepparents therefore it is probable that when reuniting with his original family following the naming customs Cyrus s father canvasses the first named him Cyrus after his grandfather who was Cyrus I topic mythology topic Herodotus gave a mythological account of Cyrus s early life in this account ostriches had two prophetic dreams in which a flood and then a series of fruit bearing vines emerged from his daughter mundane s pelvis and covered the entire kingdom these were interpreted by his advisors as a foretelling that his grandson would one day rebel and supplant him as king a Stooges summand mundane at the time pregnant with Cyrus back to egg matanda to have the child killed harp EGIS delegated the task to Mithridates one of the Shepherd's of a Stooges who raised the child and passed off his stillborn son to harp EGIS as the dead infant Cyrus Cyrus lived in secrecy but when he reached the age of 10 during a childhood game he had the son of a nobleman beaten when he refused to obey Cyrus s commands as it was unheard of for the son of a shepherd to commit such an act ostriches had the boy brought to his court and interviewed him and his adopted father upon the shepherd s confession asked you just sent Cyrus back to Persia to live with his biological parents however asked you just summoned the son of harp aigis and in retribution chopped him to pieces roasted some portions while boiling others and tricked his advisor into eating his child during a large banquet following the meal astyages servants brought harp EGIS the head hands and feet of his son on platters so he could realize his inadvertent cannibalism in another version Cyrus was presented as the son of a poor family that worked in the median court topic rise in military campaigns topic topic median Empire topic though his father died in 551 BC Cyrus the Great had already succeeded to the throne in 559 BC however Cyrus was not yet an independent ruler like his predecessors Cyrus had to recognize median overlordship ostriches last king of the median Empire and Cyrus grandfather may have ruled over the majority of the ancient near east from the Lydian frontier in the West to the Parthians and Persians in the east according to the nabonidus Chronicle ostriches launched an attack against Cyrus king of Anson according to the historian Herodotus it is known that a stooge is placed harp aigis in command of the median army to conquer Cyrus however harp egg has contacted Cyrus and encouraged his revolt against media before eventually defecting along with several of the nobility and a portion of the army this mutiny is confirmed by the nabonidus chronicle Babylonian texts suggest that the hostilities lasted for at least three years 553 to 550 and the final battle resulted in the capture of egg botana according to the historians Herodotus and tegus Cyrus spared the life of a Stooges and married his daughter a Metis this marriage pacified several vassals including the bactrian Spartans and sokka Herodotus notes that Cyrus also subdued and incorporated Sadia into the Empire during his military campaigns of 546 to 539 BC with a Stooges out of power all of his vassals including many of Cyrus s relatives were now under his command his uncle our sames who had been the king of the city-state of Parsa under the Medes therefore would have had to give up his throne however this transfer of power within the family seems to have been smooth and it is likely that our sames was still the nominal governor of Parsa under Cyrus s authority more a prince or a Grand Duke than a king his son Heist ASPs who was also Cyrus s second cousin was then made satrap of Parthia and Phrygia Cyrus the Great thus United the twin Achaemenid kingdoms of Parsa and on Shon into Persia proper our sames lived to see his grandson become Darius the great shahanshah of Persia after the deaths of both of Cyrus as Sons Cyrus's conquest of media was merely the start of his Wars topic Lydian Empire and Asia Minor topic the exact dates of the Lydian conquest are unknown but it must have taken place between cyrus s overthrow of the median kingdom 550 BC and his conquest of Babylon 539 BC it was common in the past to give 547 BC as the year of the conquest due to some interpretations of the nabonidus Chronicle but this position is currently not much held the Lydians first attacked the achaemenid empire s city of Taria in cappadocia Croesus besieged and captured the city enslaving its inhabitants meanwhile the persians invited the citizens of Ionia who were part of the Lydian kingdom to revolt against their ruler the offer was rebuffed and thus Cyrus levied an army and marched against the Lydians increasing his numbers while passing through nations in his way the Battle of tario was effectively a stalemate with both sides suffering heavy casualties by nightfall Croesus retreated to Sardis the following morning while in Sardis Croesus sent out requests for his allies to send aid to Lydia however near the end of the winter before the Allies could unite Cyrus the Great pushed the war into Lydian territory and besieged Croesus in his capital Sardis shortly before the final battle of thim breh between the two rulers harp hagas advised Cyrus the Great to place his dromedaries in front of his warriors the Lydian horses not used to the dromedary smell would be very afraid the strategy worked the Lydian cavalry was routed Cyrus defeated and captured Croesus Cyrus occupied the capital at Sardis conquering the Lydian kingdom in 546 BC according to Herodotus Cyrus the Great spared Croesus s life and kept him as an advisor but this account conflicts with some translations of the contemporary nabonidus chronicle the king who was himself subdued by cyrus the great after conquest of Babylonia which interpret that the king of Lydia was slain before returning to the capital a Lydian named pact tias was entrusted by cyrus the great to send Croesus s Treasury to persia however soon after Cyrus s departure pact he has hired mercenaries and caused an uprising in artists revolting against the Persian satrap of Lydia Tablas with recommendations from Croesus that he should turn the minds of the Lydian people to luxury Cyrus sent Meszaros one of his commanders to subdue the insurrection but demanded that pack tias be returned to lie upon Meszaros s arrival pact he has fled to Ionia where he had hired more mercenaries Meszaros marched his troops into the Greek country and subdued the cities of magnesia and preened the end of pack Tia's is unknown but after capture he was probably sent to Cyrus and put to death after a succession of tortures Meszaros continued the conquest of Asia Minor but died of unknown causes during his campaign in Ionia Cyrus sent har pegas to complete Missouri's conquest of Asia Minor har pegas captured Lisha Silesia and Phoenicia using the technique of building earthworks to breach the walls of besieged cities a method unknown to the Greeks he ended his conquest of the area in 542 BC and returned to Persia topic neo-babylonian empire topic by the year 540 BC cyrus captured Elam susiana and its capital Susa the Navin itis Chronicle records that prior to the battles nabonidus had ordered cult statues from outlying Babylonian cities to be brought into the capital suggesting that the conflict had begun possibly in the winter of 540 BC near the beginning of October 539 BC Cyrus fought the Battle of opus in or near the strategic Riverside city of opus on the Tigris north of Babylon the Babylonian army was routed and on October 10th sipar was seized without a battle with little to no resistance from the populace it is probable that Cyrus engaged in negotiations with the Babylonian generals to obtain a compromise on their part and therefore avoid an armed confrontation nabonidus was staying in the city at the time and soon fled to the capital babylon which he had not visited in years two days later on October 12 proleptic Gregorian calendar goober au s troops entered Babylon again without any resistance from the Babylonian armies and detained nabonidus Herodotus explains that to accomplish this feat the Persians using a base and dug earlier by the Babylonian Queen the Taurus to protect Babylon against median attacks diverted the Euphrates River into a canal so that the water level dropped to the height of the middle of a man s thigh which allowed the invading forces to march directly through the riverbed to enter at night on October 29th Syrus himself entered the city of Babylon and detained nabonidus prior to Cyrus's invasion of Babylon the neo-babylonian empire had conquered many kingdoms in addition to Babylonia itself cyrus probably incorporated its sub-national entities into his empire including syria judea and arabia petraea although there is no direct evidence of this fact after taking Babylon Cyrus the Great proclaimed himself king of Babylon king of Sumer and Akkad king of the four corners of the world in the famous cyrus cylinder an inscription deposited in the foundations of the S Aquila temple dedicated to the chief Babylonian God Marduk the text of the cylinder denounces nabonidus as impious and portrays the victorious Cyrus pleasing the god Marduk it describes how Cyrus had improved the lives of the citizens of Babylonia repatriated displaced people's and restored temples and cult sanctuaries although some have asserted that the cylinder represents a form of human rights charter historians generally portray it in the context of a long-standing Mesopotamian tradition of new rulers beginning their reigns with declarations of reforms Cyrus the Great s dominions comprised the largest empire the world had ever seen at the end of Cyrus rule the Achaemenid Empire stretched from Asia Minor in the West to the Indus River in the east topic death topic the details of Cyrus's death vary by account the account of Herodotus from his histories provides the second-longest detail in which cyrus met his fate in a fierce battle with the message T a tribe from the southern deserts of queires Amman kiss will come in the southernmost portion of the steppe regions of modern-day Kazakhstan in Uzbekistan following the advice of Croesus to attack them in their own territory the message T were related to the Scythians in their dress and mode of living they fought on horseback and on foot in order to acquire her realm Cyrus first sent an offer of marriage to their ruler the Empress no mirus a proposal she rejected he then commenced his attempt to take message key territory by force CA 529 beginning by building bridges and towered war boats along his side of the river Jack's arts or Syr Darya which separated them sending him a warning to cease his encroachment a warning which she stated she expected he would disregard anyway tow Meera's challenged him to meet her forces in honorable warfare inviting him to a location in her country a day s march from the river where their two armies would formally engage each other he accepted her offer but learning that the message T were unfamiliar with wine and its intoxicating effects he set up and then left camp with plenty of it behind taking his best soldiers with him and leaving the least capable ones the general of tow mirus s army Spargo Price's who was also her son and a third of the mass adjacent troops killed the group Cyrus had left there and finding the camp well-stocked with food and the wine unwittingly drank themselves into inebriation diminishing their capability to defend themselves when they were then overtaken by a surprise attack they were successfully defeated and although he was taken prisoner Sparta Paes has committed suicide once he regained sobriety upon learning of what had transpired Tomi rose denounced cyrus s tactics as underhanded and swore vengeance leading a second wave of troops into battle herself Cyrus the Great was ultimately killed and his forces suffered massive casualties in what Herodotus referred to as the fiercest battle of his career in the ancient world when it was over tow Mira's ordered the body of Cyrus brought to her then decapitated him and dipped his head in a vessel of blood in a symbolic gesture of revenge for his bloodlust and the death of her son however some scholars questioned this version mostly because Herodotus admits this event was one of many versions of Cyrus s death that he heard from a supposedly reliable source who told him no one was there to see the aftermath Herodotus also recounts that Cyrus saw in his sleep the oldest son of Heist ASPs Darius the first with wings upon his shoulders shadowing with the one wing Asia and with the other wing Europe archaeologist sir Max Malawi explains this statement by Herodotus and its connection with the four wing barley figure of Cyrus the Great in the following way Herodotus therefore as I surmised may have known of the close connection between this type of winged figure and the image of Iranian Majesty which he associated with a dream prognosticating the King's death before his last fatal campaign across the Oxus Mohammed danda may have says maybe Persians took back Cyrus body from the message T unlike what Herodotus claimed according to the chronicle of Michael the Syrian 1166 to 1199 ad Cyrus was killed by his wife Tomi hrus queen of the message t-mac sada in the 60th year of Jewish captivity tshis in his persica has the longest account which says Cyrus met his death while putting down resistance from the dervishes infantry aided by other Scythian archers and cavalry plus Indians and their war elephants according to him this event took place northeast of the headwaters of the syr darya an alternative account from Xenophon s Saira pedia contradicts the others claiming that Cyrus died peaceably at his capital the final version of Cyrus's death comes from Burruss who only reports that Cyrus met his death while warring against the dahye archers northwest of the headwaters of the Syr Darya topic burial topic Cyrus the Great's remains may have been interred in his capital city of pasar Gede a where today a limestone tomb built around 542 530 BC still exists which many believe to be his Strabo and Aryan give nearly identical descriptions of the tomb based on the eyewitness report of Eris table ulis of cassandra who at the request of Alexander the Great visited the tomb twice though the city itself is now in ruins the burial place of Cyrus the Great has remained largely intact and the tomb has been partially restored to counter its natural deterioration over the centuries according to Plutarch his epitaph said o man whoever you are and wherever you come from for I know you will come I am Cyrus who won the Persians their empire do not therefore begrudge me this bit of Earth that covers my bones cuneiform evidence from Babylon proves that Cyrus died around December 5 30 BC and that his son Cambyses ii had become king Cambyses continued his father s policy of expansion and captured egypt for the empire but soon died after only seven years of rule he was succeeded either by cyrus s other son Bardia or an impostor posing as Bardia who became the sole ruler of persia for seven months until he was killed by Darius the great the translated ancient Roman and Greek accounts give a vivid description of the tomb both geometrically and aesthetically the tombs geometric shape has changed little over the years still maintaining a large stone of quadrangular form at the base followed by a pyramidal succession of smaller rectangular stones until after a few slabs the structure is curtailed by an edifice with an arched roof composed of a pyramidal shaped stone and a small opening or window on the side where the slenderest man could barely squeeze through within this edifice was a golden coffin resting on a table with golden supports inside of which the body of Cyrus the Great was interred upon his resting place was a covering of tapestry and drapes made from the best available babylonian materials utilizing fine median works Manship below his bed was a fine red carpet covering the narrow rectangular area of his tomb translated Greek accounts describe the tomb as having been placed in the fertile passar g'day Gardens surrounded by trees and ornamental shrubs with a group of a kami nian protectors called the Magi stationed nearby to protect the edifice from theft or damage years later in the chaos created by Alexander the Great s invasion of Persia and after the defeat of Darius the third Cyrus the Great s tomb was broken into and most of its luxuries were looted when Alexander reached the tomb he was horrified by the manner in which the tomb was treated and questioned the Magi and put them to court on some accounts Alexander s decision to put the Magi on trial was more about his attempt to undermine their influence and his show of power in his newly conquered Empire than a concern for Cyrus s tomb however Alexander admired Cyrus from an early age reading Xenophon s syrupy diya which described Cyrus s heroism in battle and governance as a king and legislature regardless Alexander the Great ordered heiress tabulous to improve the tomb s condition and restore its interior despite his admiration for Cyrus the Great and his attempts at renovation of his tomb Alexander had six years previously 330 BC sacked Persepolis the opulent city that cyrus may have chosen the site for and either ordered its burning as an act of progra propaganda or set it on fire during drunken revels the edifice has survived the test of time through invasions internal divisions successive empires regime changes and revolutions the last prominent Persian figure to bring attention to the tomb was Mohammad Reza Pahlavi Shah of Iran the last official monarch of Persia during his celebrations of 2500 years of monarchy just as Alexander the Great before him the Shah of Iran wanted to appeal to Cyrus s legacy to legitimize his own rule by extension United Nations recognizes the tomb of Cyrus the Great and posaga day as a UNESCO World Heritage Site topic legacy topic British historian Charles Freeman suggests that in scope and extent his achievements siress ranked far above that of the Macedonian King Alexander who was to demolish the Achaemenid Empire in the three 20s but failed to provide any stable alternative Cyrus has been a personal hero to many people including Thomas Jefferson Mohammad Reza Pahlavi and David ben-gurion the achievements of Cyrus the great throughout antiquity are reflected in the way he is remembered today his own nation the Iranians have regarded him as the father the very title that had been used during the time of Cyrus himself by the many nations that he conquered as according to Xenophon and those who were subject to him he treated with esteem and regard as if they were his own children while his subjects themselves respected Cyrus's their father what other man met Cyrus after having overturned an empire ever died with the title of the father from the people whom he had brought under his power for it is plain fact that this is a name for one that bestows rather than for one that takes away the Babylonians regarded him as the liberator the book of Ezra narrates a story of the first return of exiles in the first year of Cyrus in which Cyrus boastfully proclaims all the kingdoms of the earth hath the Lord the God of heaven given me and he hath charged me to build him a house in Jerusalem which is in Judah Ezra chapter 1 verse 2 Cyrus was distinguished equally as a statesman and as a soldier due in part to the political infrastructure he created the Achaemenid Empire endured long after his death the rise of Persia under Cyrus's rule had a profound impact on the course of world history Iranian philosophy literature and religion all played dominant roles in world events for the next millennium despite the Islamic conquest of Persia in the 7th century AD by the Islamic caliphate Persia continued to exercise enormous influence in the Middle East during the Islamic Golden Age and was particularly instrumental in the growth and expansion of Islam many of the iranian dynasties following the Achaemenid Empire and their kings saw them sell as the heirs to Cyrus the Great and have claimed to continue the line begun by Cyrus however there are different opinions among scholars whether this is also the case for the sassanid dynasty Alexander the Great was himself infatuated with and admired Cyrus the Great from an early age reading Xenophon as saira pedia which described Cyrus s heroism in battle and governance and his abilities as a king and a legislator during his visit to posaga day he ordered eros table ulis to decorate the interior of the sepulchral chamber of cyrus s tomb cyrus s legacy has been felt even as far away as Iceland in colonial America many of the thinkers and rulers of classical antiquity as well as the Renaissance and enlightenment era and the forefathers of the United States of America sought inspiration from Cyrus the Great through works such as saira pedia Thomas Jefferson for example owned two copies of Saira pedia one with parallel Greek and Latin translations on facing pages showing substantial Jefferson markings that signified the amount of influence the book has had on drafting the United States Declaration of Independence according to Professor Richard Nelson Frye Cyrus whose abilities as conqueror and administrator fry says are attested by the longevity and vigor of the Achaemenid Empire held an almost mythic role among the Persian people similar to that of Romulus and Remus in Rome or Moses for the Israelites with a story that follows in many details the stories of hero and conquerors from elsewhere in the ancient world Frye writes he became the epitome of the great qualities expected of a ruler in antiquity and he assumed heroic features as a conqueror who was tolerant and magnanimous as well as brave and daring his personality as seen by the Greeks influenced them an Alexander the Great and as the tradition was transmitted by the Romans may be considered to influence our thinking even now on another account professor Patrick hunt States if you are looking at the greatest personages in history who have effected the world Cyrus the Great is one of the few who deserves that epithet the one who deserves to be called the Great the Empire over which Cyrus ruled was the largest the ancient world had ever seen and maybe to this day the largest empire ever topic religion and philosophy topic though it is generally believed that Zarathustra s teachings maintained influence on Cyrus s acts and policies so far no clear evidence has been found to indicate that Cyrus practiced a specific religion Pierre Bryant wrote that given the poor information we have it seems quite reckless to try to reconstruct what the religion of Cyrus might have been his views are believed expressed in the content of the cylinder you me saw my HRA Lubell you a luna boy sa a rock who um e e le Tom you you lit Tosca ruamata do n ke a you a Nalu Murdock belli ele I Q boo you saw M K you Ross sorry Polly haiku um ka Ambu ze Amar'e su cylinder Akkadian language line 35 pray daily before Bell and Nabu for a long life for me and may they speak a gracious word for me and say to Marduk My Lord may Cyrus the king who worships you and canvasses his son cylinder English translation line 35 the policies of cyrus with respect to treatment of minority religions are well documented in Babylonian texts as well as Jewish sources and the historians accounts cyrus had a general policy of religious tolerance throughout his vast empire whether this was a new policy or the continuation of policies followed by the Babylonians and Assyrians as Lester grab maintains is disputed he brought peace to the Babylonians and is said to have kept his army away from the temples and restored the statues of the Babylonian gods to their sanctuaries his treatment of the Jews during their exile in Babylon after Nebuchadnezzar to destroyed Jerusalem as reported in the Bible the Jewish Bibles ketubah ends in 2nd chronicles with the decree of Cyrus which returned the exiles to the promised land from Babylon along with a commission to rebuild the temple thus Saif Cyrus king of Persia all the kingdoms of the earth hath the Lord the God of heaven given me and he hath charged me to build him a house in Jerusalem which is in Judah whosoever there is among you of all his people the Lord his God be with him let him go there 2nd chronicles chapter 36 verse 23 this evict has also fully reproduced in the book of Ezra in the first year of King Cyrus Cyrus the King issued a decree concerning the house of God at Jerusalem let the temple the place where sacrifices are offered be rebuilt and let its foundations be retained its height being 60 cubits and its width 60 cubits with three layers of huge stones and one layer of timbers and let the cost be paid from the royal treasury also let the gold and silver utensils of the house of God which Nebuchadnezzar took from the Temple in Jerusalem and brought to babylon be returned and brought to their places in the temple in jerusalem and you shall put them in the house of god ezra chapter 6 verses 3 to 5 the jews honored him as a dignified and righteous king in one biblical passage isaiah refers to him as messiah lit his anointed one isaiah chapter 45 verse 1 making him the only Gentile to be so referred elsewhere in Isaiah God is described as saying I will raise up Cyrus in my righteousness I will make all his way straight he will rebuild my city and set my exiles free but not for a price or reward says God Almighty Isaiah chapter 45 verse 13 as the text suggests Cyrus did ultimately release the nation of Israel from its exile without compensation or tribute these particular passages Isaiah chapters 40 to 55 often referred to as deutero Isaiah are believed by most modern critical scholars to have been added by another author toward the end of the Babylonian exile CA 536 BC Josephus the first century Jewish historian relates the traditional view of the Jews regarding the prediction of Cyrus in Isaiah in his antiquities of the Jews book 11 chapter 1 in the first year of the reign of Cyrus which was the 70th from the day that our people were removed out of their own land into Babylon God commiserated the captivity and calamity of these poor people according as he had foretold to them by Jeremiah the Prophet before the destruction of the city that after they had served Nebuchadnezzar and his posterity and after they had undergone servitude seventy years he would restore them again to the land of their fathers and they should build their temple and enjoy their ancient prosperity and these things God did afford them for he stirred up the mind of Cyrus and made him write this throughout all Asia thus says Cyrus the King since god almighty hath appointed me to be king of the habitable earth I believe that he is that God which the nation of the Israelites worship for indeed he foretold my name by the prophets and that I should build him a house at Jerusalem in the country of Judea this was known to Cyrus by his reading the book which Isaiah left behind him of his prophecies for this prophet said that God had spoken thus to him in a secret vision my will is that Cyrus whom I have appointed to be king over many and great nations send back my people to their own land and build my temple this was foretold by Isaiah 140 years before the temple was demolished accordingly when Cyrus read this and admired the divine power an earnest desire and ambition seized upon him to fulfill what was so written so he called for the most eminent Jews that were in Babylon and said to them that he gave them leave to go back to their own country and to rebuild their city Jerusalem and the temple of God for that he would be their assistant and that he would write to the rulers and governors that were in the neighbourhood of their country of Judea that they should contribute to them gold and silver for the building of the temple and besides that beasts for their sacrifices Cyrus was praised in the Tanakh Isaiah chapter 45 verses 1 to 6 and Ezra chapter 1 verses 1 to 11 for the freeing of slaves humanitarian equality and costly reparations he made however there was Jewish criticism of him after he was lied to by the con tights who wanted to halt the building of the second temple they accused the Jews of conspiring to rebel so Cyrus in turn stopped the construction which would not be completed until 515 BC during the reign of Darius the first according to the Bible it was King Artaxerxes who was convinced to stop the construction of the Temple in Jerusalem Ezra chapter 4 verses 7 to 24 the historical nature of this decree has been challenged professor les Tyrell grab argues that there was no decree but that there was a policy that allowed exiles to return to their homeland and rebuild their temples he also argues that the archaeology suggests that the return was a trickle taking place over perhaps decades resulting in a maximum population of perhaps thirty thousand Philip our Davies called the authenticity of the decree dubious citing grab and adding that Jay breed argued against the authenticity of Ezra one point one to four as Jay Breen in a paper given at the Institute Catholic to Paris on the 15th of December 1993 who denies that it resembles the form of an official document but reflects rather biblical prophetic idiom Mary Jo Nguyen Leith believes that the decree in ezra might be authentic and along with the cylinder that cyrus like earlier rules was through these decrees trying to gain support from those who might be strategically important particularly those close to egypt which he wished to conquer he also wrote that appeals to Marduk in the cylinder and to Yahweh in the biblical decree demonstrate the Persian tendency to co-op to local religious and political traditions in the interest of Imperial control some contemporary Muslim scholars have suggested that the qur anic figure of dhul-qarnain as a mythological representation of cyrus the great dhul-qarnain arabic doe Outernet do all qarnain IPA UL q AR na JN or zul qarnain he of the two horns or figuratively he of the two ages appears in Sura 18 verses 83 to 101 of the Quran as a figure empowered by Allah to erect a wall between mankind and Gog and Magog the representation of chaos this theory was proposed by Sunni scholars such as mallanna ma duty and Abdul Kalam Azad and endorsed by Shi a scholars allama tabata by in his tasks are all Mazon and McCarran shirazi topic politics and management topic siress founded the Empire as a multi-state Empire governed by four Capitol states posaga de Babylon Susa and egg botana he allowed a certain amount of regional autonomy in each state in the form of a say trapeze system assay Trippi was an administrative unit usually organized on a geographical basis a satrap governor was the vassal king who administered the region ah general supervise military recruitment and insured order and uh state secretary kept the official records the general and the state secretary reported directly to the satrap as well as the central government during his reign cyrus maintained control over a vast region of conquered kingdoms achieved through retaining and expanding the satrapies further organization of newly conquered territories into provinces ruled by satraps was continued by cyrus s successor Darius the great cyrus s Empire was based on tribute and conscripted arts of his realm through his military savvy cyrus created an organized army including the immortals unit consisting of 10,000 highly trained soldiers he also formed an innovative postal system throughout the empire based on several relay stations called chapter kana Cyrus's conquests began a new era in the age of empire building where a vast super state comprising many dozens of countries races religions and languages were ruled under a single administration headed by a central government this system lasted for centuries and was retained both by the invading Seleucid dynasty during their control of Persia and later Iranian dynasties including the Parthians in sassani ins on December 10th 2003 in her acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize Shirin Ebadi evokes iris saying I am an Iranian a descendant of Cyrus the Great this Emperor proclaimed at the pinnacle of power 2,500 years ago that he would not reign over the people if they did not wish it he promised not to force any person to change his religion and faith and guaranteed freedom for all the charter of Cyrus the Great should be studied in the history of human rights Cyrus has been known for his innovations in building projects he further developed the technologies that he found in the conquered cultures and applied them in building the palaces of posaga day he was also famous for his love of gardens the recent excavations in his capital city has revealed the existence of the pasar Gede a persian garden and a network of irrigation canals posaga day was a place for two magnificent palaces surrounded by a majestic royal park and vast formal gardens among them was the four quartered walled gardens of Paradiso with over 1,000 metres of channels made out of carved limestone designed to fill small basins at every 16 metres and water various types of wild and domestic flora the design and concept of Paradiso were exceptional and have been used as a model for many ancient and modern parks ever since the English physician and philosopher Sir Thomas Browne penned a discourse entitled the garden of Cyrus in 1658 in which Cyrus is depicted as an archetypal wise ruler while the protectorate of Cromwell ruled Britain Cyrus the elder brought up in woods and mountains when time and power enabled pursued the dictate of his education and brought the treasures of the field into rule and circumscription so nobly beautifying the Hanging Gardens of Babylon that he was also thought to be the author thereof topic cyrus cylinder topic one of the few surviving sources of information that can be dated directly to cyrus s time as the cyrus cylinder persian asked wonk were shad occupant in the form of a clay cylinder inscribed in Akkadian cuneiform it had been placed in the foundations of the S Aquila the temple of Marduk in Babylon as a foundation deposit following the Persian conquest in 539 BC it was discovered in 1879 and has kept today in the British Museum in London the text of the cylinder denounces the deposed Babylonian king nabonidus as impious and portrays Cyrus as pleasing to the chief god Marduk it describes how Cyrus had improved the lives of the citizens of Babylonia repatriated displaced peoples and restored temples and cult sanctuaries although not mentioned specifically in the text the repatriation of the Jews from their Babylonian captivity has been interpreted as part of this general policy in the 1970s the Shah of Iran adopted the cyrus cylinder as a political symbol using it as a central image in his celebration of 2500 years of iranian monarchy and asserting that it was the first human rights charter in history this view has been disputed by some is rather anachronistic and tendentious as the modern concept of human rights would have been quite alien to cyrus s contemporaries and is not mentioned by the cylinder the cylinder has nonetheless become seen as part of Iran s cultural identity the United Nations has declared the relic to be an ancient declaration of human rights since 1971 approved by then secretary-general Sifu U Thant after he was given a replica by the sister of the Shah of Iran the British Museum describes the cylinder as an instrument of ancient Mesopotamian propaganda that reflects a long tradition in Mesopotamia where from as early as the 3rd millennium BC Kings began their reigns with declarations of reforms the cylinder emphasizes Cyrus s continuity with previous Babylonian rulers asserting his virtue as a traditional Babylonian king while denigrating his predecessor Neil MacGregor director of the British Museum has stated that the cylinder was the first attempt we know about running a society a state with different nationalities and faiths a new kind of statecraft he explained that it has even been described as the first declaration of human rights and while this was never the intention of the document the modern concept of human rights scarcely existed in the ancient world it has come to embody the hopes and aspirations of many topic family tree topic topic see also topic cyrus the great portal list of kings of persia kay Baumann topic references topic topic bibliography topic topic further reading topic Amelie Kurt ancient Near Eastern history the case of Cyrus the Great of Persia in hue Godfrey michurin Williamson understanding the history of ancient Israel oxford university press 2007 ISBN 978 Oh one nine seven two six four O one o PP 172 128 bickerman Elias J September 1946 the Edict of Cyrus in Ezra chapter one journey of biblical literature 65 3 249 to 275 joy 10.2 3:07 three million two hundred sixty two thousand six hundred sixty-five JSTOR three million two hundred sixty two thousand six hundred sixty-five dougherty Raymond Philip 1929 nabonidus and Belshazzar a study of the closing events of the neo-babylonian empire New Haven Yale University Press Dru's Robert October 1974 Sargon Cyrus and Mesopotamian folk history Journal of Near Eastern Studies 33 4 387 - 393 joy 10.10 86 372,000 377 harm a de J 1971 the rise of the old Persian Empire cyrus the great act to Antiqua 19 2 3 - 15 Lawrence John M 1985 Cyrus Messiah politician and general Near East Archaeological Society bulletin n s 25 - 5 - 28 Lawrence John M 1982 neo-assyrian and neo-babylonian attitudes towards foreigners and their religion Near East archaeological society bulletin n s 1927 - 40 Malayan max 1972 cyrus the great 558 - 529 bc Iran ten-to-one - 17 doei ten point two three zero seven four million three hundred thousand four hundred sixty jstor four million three hundred thousand four hundred sixty wheeze Hoffer Joseph 1996 ancient Persia from 550 BC to 650 ad Aziza as 80 trans London ib Tauris ISBN one eight five zero four three nine nine nine Oh Jovie Alexander 2011 I am Cyrus the story of the real Prince of Persia reading garnet publishing ISBN nine seven eight one eight five nine six four two eight one eight topic external links topic cyrus cylinder full Babylonian texts of the Cyrus cylinder as it was known in 2001 translation brief introduction Xenophon Saira pedia the education of Cyrus translated by Henry Graham Dawkins and revised by F M Stahl Project Gutenberg Cyrus the Great and article about Cyrus by Iran chamber Society 360 panoramic image tomb of Cyrus the Great
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Horus Heresy - Ultramarine - Chapter 9: The Desert Base
so yeah we decided to go for a simple base and we've just used a bit of cork with some really put here on the top and but of sand and gravel I think base like that is really nice also for for a tabletop army because you can it's quite sturdy and it's nice and easy to make you can see priming wise we went for a black and white foundation black was the first layer covering everything and then just so white from the top we went a little from the side so we have a nice little gradient already in there you can see on the pallet we have the same orange brown that we've also used for the dust effect on his lower legs and also some armor Brown some white black and a bit of army painter soft tone but we will start with a diluted scrap Brown we want that orange desert look okay a little too thick so just taking a wet brush and pull it a little over the surface auntie I think the it would be quite a nice strong contrast between the orange of the base and the the blue of the marine itself I'm sure you hit all the the recesses here in the first call to get this same color our same shading all places okay I'll use a blow dryer to speed things up a little okay after you use the blow dryer it's always good to wait em a couple of seconds to give the material some time to cool down because otherwise if you continue for example with the wash afterwards that would dry a little too fast and could leave you some nasty stains and I think now it should be should be good and I will just use some of that soft tone wash more here out the area with the sand and gravel and then pull that out with a wet brush huge you okay and another with the blow dryer just to get a better idea of the finish contrast I will just take some black and paint the sides of the face and also go for Goblin green but might be a bit too distracting looking for going green actually okay well there's sets of the best dry and just take our marine and check how the the color box works together and just see if we still need to add little highlights are a slight dry brushing but I think we actually don't need any dry brushing work because we can see that all the grain is really nice highlighted already with the 2k foundation so I think one of the few things will add a little bit of tonal variation on the big rocks and some little highlights for the let's all just also go for that loaded brush technique with a bit of the scrap Brown in the back and white on the tip of the brush I will just start to highlight little edges like that here try not to blend over the whole surface because I like to to preserve that roughness here of the the finish so really just adding a few lights to to make it look more painted okay and so I like to keep it simple and this pace so far is extremely simple we won't add really a lot you just add a tiny bit of I'm brown glazes in a few spots to also give a nice natural variation and shade of brown you is just water to pull out the pinions a little service can smooth that scrape around here get back edge and you can hear very thin glaze of the scrap brownian the lower it area here to make it look like like dusted if you if you glaze a light flat color over of that washed area and once it's dry it should look and nice and dusty and we will do the glaze over the the legs once it's in place to really have the same tone on there okay so um I think we can just let that dry and I'll be back with the Marine put on the base and we'll do some final adjustments all right so here we are with the figure on the base I think it works really nice together with a strong color contrast and still having the dust here is a nice little effect to bind the twos together um I think it's quite visible that we need something here stronger here on shoes so off the shoes so we just glaze that with southeast crap bro then just take away brush and dab it below the surface yeah it might look a little bit saturated now here in the recesses because the pigments collect there but once that is dry that will not be idle so with thumb is your reason that the scribe Brown which has a slightly more satin finish if you do find you feel is too shiny because you want it to look like dusty rocks you can always do it and didn't take a super thin glaze of black just over the top to make it more maximum yeah but I think once that is dry it will be quite quite matte actually from the finish because that we use it that strongly diluted so the finish will be somewhat mad okay we have just will let that dry and I think we're done for all right so um yeah that's it for a nice little ultramarine here and yeah I hope you've enjoyed the video I think it was quite nice and to show you that it's not always a lot of brush but you can get quite a long way with techniques there so called beginner techniques sub staring and glazing so I think it's really nice to see that you can even work with those techniques to a very high level so I hope you enjoyed the video and yeah thanks for your support and the penny bullet Academy and patreon hope you enjoyed this video and the next ones to follow you
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YAMAHA XT250 TOP SPEED UPHILL TEST IN TRAFFIC
hello so i'm on this is riding out of xt 250 we're going to do a little bit of a road test review and see how it performs on a freeway and a specific one because coming out of adelaide up towards sterling which is where i'm heading we have quite a steep hill and it's a 90 100 k's an hour ride so let's see how it performs up the hill we've got 250 cc's about 17 18 horsepower apparently maybe a little bit less i don't know but it'd be interesting to see how it performs going up the hill it's a 900 kilometer an hour road and you want to know as an owner of a bike or if somebody's potentially looking at buying one of these whether or not you're gonna get swallowed up by traffic or whether or not you can actually hold your arm at the speed limit and not be having to be the shrinking violet and hiding out of the way so it'll be interesting to see how it goes i've got a feeling it's quite a steep hill so it might run out of speed out of steam towards the top but we'll see it's it's just one of these things that this is a great little rod isn't it i've got a hairpin coming up now oh there's mrs rydergeider we're off up to the hills winnie bigger ish i said yes living the dream now there's nothing in my left hand lane i'm sneaking out let's see how we go up here doing well it's good acceleration but we're not on the hill not on the street yet so that's fifth let's see how we go i mean i'm 90 k's an hour there i could get in and draft just watch that high looks or whatever it is it's coming out i've got a slow moving truck now i've got the confidence to get to the outside lane i actually have i could sit and draft this uh camper van that's 105 k's an hour indicated it's not bad is it is mrs ryder guider hello well she seems to be on her own again we haven't got to the steep bit yet that's amazing that's very very impressive now of course the hill starts now and it's that steam your ears will be popping at the top i don't think that'll affect you on youtube as a viewer just want to make sure i'm not in this person's blind spot a little bit close to mitsubishi but i want to just drop to far off there keep my momentum i want to keep the momentum i don't want to suddenly find myself running out of steam so it is clearly a powerful enough motorbike to come up this hill it is absolutely swallowing it up for a little 250 that is vitally impressive i'm holding 100ks an hour and it won't look that steep it wasn't forecast today i hope that's not going to stay but that's fifth gear and i'm going to slow it down it's about 90. now i've got this see what's happening here i've got this slow-moving truck this yellow orange one's like it come out it is it's indicating now it got beyond him and it's pulling it's pulling through 90 up to 100 again that's not bad because this won't look that steep in relation to the footage you're seeing but it's quite a climb and for a little 250 that has been mightily impressive through the tunnels don't rain in here wow well i'm impressed with that mightily good i'm impressed tractable little energy considering it's only i don't know how many losses it is somebody'll let me know how many pawns it's got under its uh tank but i can't i can't fault it what a cracking little bike i know it's got the capability of holding its own so yeah that's a good little test for it let's see it in fifth gear now i'm gonna pull out up here now we'll see how we go look at that hundred hundred and three hundred fortnight won't be going that fast that's probably reading a bit fast but 107. 110 indicators so that's probably 100 k's an hour and it pulled in top gear from 90 uphill to 110. not bad very tractable impressive stuff you
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The Real Housewives: Parody
[Music] I'm made of all frills and a whole lot of bills I'm nice but I will lay down if you miss on my crown if you don't want me to tell the truth then just ask me to lie people think my house is the biggest one in town but I know it is I may be small but my money stacks are tough [Music] driver can you give me any closer I'm ray and this is Posche town miss ray if we get any closer we'll hit the building that's driver she brings me places oh okay this will be fine your action you are you here a guy in the back is Franklin he's the help goes everywhere I go [Music] Franklin I broke a sweat bead Banamine can you believe that drive me wouldn't drive me down to the court that's ridiculous the reason you dropped us in the Jeep it's a G Wagen I only ride my limo at night so I was thinking she'd give the girls together for a dinner party and discuss a little getaway that is my BFF Madison she always planned something fun I'm so excited we should call Riley Riley she claims to be a countess in some faraway land [Music] hello hey Carl is Madison and Ray and I can get the girls together for a dinner party Friday night are you available okay will everyone be there I'll extend the invite to loving for you I'm sure she'll let Peyton know sounds good see you later kiss his darling a new little tick cookbook and do fine hello Logan she doesn't cook and totally just slapped her name on the bottle of juice to claim mogul status I've never seen you cook anything in your life the girls are having a dinner party Friday night you in but two bottles a little too quite to the side okay see you girl just kiss [Music] that is paying like whatever she's a total pot stirrer Oh hello good girl does your friend leathers the dinner party Friday night duh no one told me about a dinner party what the heck is that about oh my goodness such bad manners oversight I can't even deal seriously so rude oh you bet I will [Music] hello really why I don't know but apparently Madison and Lord one of her Instagram posts oh that's just ridiculous anyways I'll see you there so her dad split her like all the time and she says she's like the richest person in the world but we obviously know she isn't yeah she probably she probably is richer than us she said her dad owns five companies oh really five companies I own 25 or 30 hello so I talked to Logan and she talked to penny who told her that she knows that you didn't invite her to your dinner party because you didn't like her Instagram post that is not true she blocked me for Instagram because she said that I was trying to steal her I'm just the messenger I'll see you Friday absolute rubbish I mean it really hello hey Payne it's ray I just want to invite you to a dinner party we're having on Friday would love to see you there can you make it sure would love to come thanks for thinking of me great see you then kiss kiss kisses bye I mean do I want her there no I never tried to steal herself it's preposterous really I'm not saying that Madison always makes range do her dirty work but really she makes her do her dirty work for sure [Music] a round of Shirley temple's please remy pains back up i give their french up three weeks great and here it starts buckle up paint him i'm glad you made tonight honestly i am interesting we'll talk later now is the appropriate time why not what's your issue that was gonna be a long night [Music]
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How To Have A Cat When You're Allergic
do you or someone you know suffer from cat allergies well this video we're gonna talk about six ways in which you can coexist with cats even if you have allergies hi I'm Jessica and a furry family coach and in this video we're going to talk about six ways that you can coexist with cats even if you have allergies or if someone you know has allergies first off let me start out by saying that I understand that allergies are a real thing I actually have allergies that my cats affect very much but I know a lot of people out there do have allergies to their pets some people have allergies and think that they can't have animals they can't have pets because of them and in a lot of cases that's just not the truth you just have to take some extra steps you just have to take a few extra steps and make things work you can have the companionship of a pet even if you have allergies I'm gonna give you six ways in which you can accomplish this so first off let's start out by saying if anyone does have allergies they are a pain in the butt so be sympathetic to them okay so number one what you can do is to start feeding your cat or even a dog if you have a dog and you're allergic to dogs start feeding your cat a biologically appropriate a species-specific biologically appropriate diet now what is this this is a raw food diet or at the very least a homemade diet something that is not kibble something that is actually appropriate for your pet to eat if you have any questions about what a biologically appropriate species-specific diet is there are tons of videos on my youtube channel that can direct you in the right place now why is this important it helps your cats kote tremendously you you will be surprised if you switch your pet from the dry kibble or in processed foods that you're buying from even you know pet stores even some of the higher-end pet stores you take them off of that food and you put them on a raw food diet a species specific biologically appropriate diet you will notice a drastic change in their coat and in their skin they're going to have far less dander and dandruff what it and the dander on your pet is actually where the allergens are coming from so to decrease that dander is going to improve the allergen content in your home tremendously number two is to bathe your cat choose a shampoo that is created for cats there is a different pH balance that your cats need versus your dogs versus us so don't use a human shampoo on your cat use something organic something that is created with a pH balance of your cat in mind and you can do this up to once a week this is also going to drastically help that dander content on your cat and the dander content in your house which will decrease your allergens number three get a routine in place for cleaning your home this is this means everything we want to reduce the dander content in our home dry mopping vacuuming cleaning and washing your pet bins regularly I clean every single week and I clean all throughout the week but I have one day a week where I am dedicated to cleaning and that means that my my house is cleaned especially the areas where my pets congregate and live the most because I want to keep all of the dander down I don't want all of these allergens not to mention it's just more hygienic so get a cleaning routine in place clean everything your drapes your couch your chairs all of your furniture clean dry mop your hard floors vacuum make sure you empty your vacuum in our outside not inside of your house these things are gonna help the dander content drastically number four use an ionic air purifier number five and this is a big one if you have someone in your household or if you are the person in your household who has the allergy to your pet specifically your cat make that person's bedroom and closet a pet free zone so your cat or a dog will not be allowed in that one specific area of the house a bedroom in the closet that's it because you want to minimize the amount of dander so you want to keep that a pet free zone and finally number six we want to give our kitty optimal levels of omega-3 fatty acids this is going to increase the health of your Kitty's skin and coat and reduce their dander so there you have it six things that you can change just little things you can change in your home if you have an allergy to a cat that will allow you to have a cat in your home so thank you so much for joining me in this video if you like this video please give it a thumbs up share it with your friends especially people that you know who will have an allergy give them these tips and tricks that they can use to try and bring a pet into their home a great way to do this is by fostering or fostering to adopt so they can try it out hopefully they can work it out and have a cat in their home they are absolutely wonderful companions and also comment if you have any questions if you have another tip that isn't included in this video leave it in the comments below I love to hear your comments and until next time I'll see you [Music]
The Pet Parenting Reset
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