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District 9 - Could it be another form of subliminal messaging by the media? (Spoilers)
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So I saw District 9 the other night, a very entertaining film, by far the best movie of this year. It has a lot to say on the human condition. It has a lot of topical and current themes and memes resonating with today's climate. Now for those who believe that there are masonic symbols in media, and that all those 9-11 subliminal messages (like in the matrix) where there to "condition us" to reality I submit the following:
In District 9 one of the main plot points is the relocation of over a million aliens from their slums. The way they did this however seemed like it could be a conditioning of whats to come (especially if you believe in a FEMA camp type situation). A large corporation (not even the government, possibly furthering the thought that corporations rule, not governments) called "MNU" goes door to door of each alien resident and serves them an eviction notice that they must comply with. At one point a smarter alien observes that the notice says he is required 24 hour notice and that the eviction notice isn't even legal. MNU obviously does not abide by this and enters his house anyways.
For me personally I could see this paralleling a FEMA camp type situation and this could be condition us to think, when the officals come knocking with your "offical notice" that no matter what, you gotta obey.
Also 2010/##/08 appear a lot on the HUD images, even though the movie takes place in 2008.
Anyways I just found the parallels to our time interesting to say the least. Those who've seen the movie perhaps you could comment on your perception? If you don't believe in the subliminal messaging of media please don't respond, or at least be polite.
Above all else, a KICK ASS movie that I recommend everyone should see ASAP! It surprised the hell out of me, it is VERY well done.
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A new theory explaining the killing of Nicholas Berg by the US Military
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There have always been questions about the death of Nicholas Berg, who was the first Western hostage kidnapped and beheaded in Iraq.
There is also a lot of circumstantial evidence indicating that he was doing things which would end up getting him killed, by the US, and I have never seen these facts gathered together in one place.
Here are the points of evidence, reported in isolation, with the less contentious reported first.
* Nicholas Berg was wearing standard-issue Gitmo jumpsuits
* The furniture seen in the photographs matches that at Abu Ghraib
* Many commentators have pointed out inconsistencies in the dress, speech and mannerisms of the "arabs" in the video of him being interrogated and killed
* While I have not seen the video of the execution, many seem to think that he was already dead, and the "screams" were dubbed in afterwards
* Nicholas Berg had previously been arrested by the US, and released.
* Shortly before his death, he was reportedly arrested again, so it did appear he was in US custody
Here are the more interesting facts:
* Nicholas Berg was a telecommunications technician
* His parents are involved in the Peace movement
* No telecommunications company has admitted to employing him: it appears that he was in Iraq on his own
* He was seen doing something to the GSM telecommunications towers outside Abu Ghraib shortly before his death
* The GSM standard is encrypted, but, these days, trivially crackable
* He would have had easy access to the messages sent between soldiers inside Abu Ghraib
* The Abu Ghraib abuse photos began to appear in the media around the time of his death
* It has never become clear how these photos were leaked: I doubt that those responsible would have done so.
One obvious conclusion from these disparate facts is that Nicholas Berg tapped the GSM tower outside Abu Ghraib, leaked the Abu Ghraib abuse photos, was discovered by the US military, and executed. The beheading video was concocted after the event and used for its propaganda value, which was very effective.
I suppose that the reason that this theory was not reported in the media is that it is based upon a lot of circumstantial evidence.
However, the way that all of these facts were reported does allow one to draw their own conclusions.
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Okay Truthers, it's time to change strategy.
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You've worked diligently all this time to get the "truth" out. Everyone has been reached except one dude in East Jabip who has no internet. They have either been converted, are unconvinced, or are too apathetic to care. No further documentary evidence is likely to change this. It is time to shift gears and move towards a more result oriented campaign. Time to tone down the crazy and set more modest, achievable goals. Look at what happened to Van Jones recently. The guy didn't just resign, he turned his back on 9/11 Truth even after resigning, when he had nothing left to lose and no political future to look forward to. There is a message here and that message is - the tactics of the past has made the entire topic political kryptonite. A new way must be found for the future.
I suggest a milder approach. Play each side of the political spectrum against each other. To the right, the question must be raised 'Did the Clinton years lead to this?' and 'What evidence did Sandy Berger destroy?'. To the left, 'Was Bush responsible, either through incompetence or complacency ... or possibly more?'. It's LIHOP argument at best, but IMO much more palatable to the public at large and probably the only road leading to a new and real investigation. To reiterate, what is needed at this time is steps towards progress and self policing.
I look forward to your flames.
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Muse - The Resistance is out on Monday. If you like your conspiracy theories, you have to hear this album.
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Since Origin of Symmetry Muse (well, Matt Bellamy) has become steadily more interested in conspiracies and "hidden stories". This whole album is filled with NWO and CIA conspiracy references. Here are some lyrics from "United States of Eurasia":
> And these wars they can't be won
And these wars they can't be won
And do you want them to go on, on and on?
Why split these states when there can be only one?
>And must we do as we're told?
And must we do as we're told?
>You and me fall in line
To be punished for unproven crimes
And we know there is no one we can trust
Our ancient heroes they are turning to dust
>And these wars they can never be won
Does anyone know or care how they begun?
They just promise to go on, and on and on
But soon we will see there can only be one
The chorus to the song "MK Ultra":
> How much deception can you take?
How many lies will you create?
How much longer until you break?
You mind's about to fall
And then there's a whole three-piece suite about the Illuminati and the end of the world.
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Quarantined Navy ship - Captain And Chief Petty Officer dead
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From: Earl Captain Morgan E.R's Hawgpen Ìïëþí ËaâÝ (41238108)
To: (461429631)
Date: 9/25/2009 10:32:55 PM
Subject: Quarantined Navy ship - Captain And Chief Petty Officer dead
This information is considered Classified. This story has gotten out from Navy Wives out of San Diego that had brief communications from their husbands. All personnel and military dependents are now silenced!!!!
On 1 ship, 347 onboard had all been given the H1N1 vaccine. 2 are now confirmed DEAD, the Captain of the ship and a Chief Petty Officer are dead!!!!!. Only 14 were not seriously effected, the rest had fought fevers of 104 - 105 degrees for 5 - 6 days. Many are in very serious condition and another naval ship was dispatched with 16 Medical Drs that went on board. This first ship was in quarantine for 21 days off the coast of Spain and has now recently returned to San Diego still under partial quarantine. 3 other ships are going through the same situation and are all under quarantine. They have all been determined to have gotten the Swine Flu FROM THE VACCINE!!!
Here is a radio report done that had been contacted by the Naval wives. This story will not see the light of day on mainstream media. So.....BLAST THIS STORY!........!........!........!........!........!........! ........!........!........!........!........!........!...... ..!........!........!........!........!........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Myself and others predicted this scenario a long time ago. Their EVIL DEPOPULATION plan is in full swing! Do the right thing...get this story out. The seasonal flu shot ALSO contains H1N! and H3N2 and one other deadly flu. DO NOT TAKE ANY VACCINE. NONE.........NONE...NONE.
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Hey guys, I had this theory a while back about the Clinton impeachment. Tell me what you think...
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Pretty simple really. The republican party, the party of big business, the party of the military industrial complex, really desired a couple of wars to line their pockets. However, they weren't sitting in the executive chair.
My theory is that the Clinton impeachment, over the *dubious crime* of lying about fellatio, was not about morals or laws at all. It was in fact simply about getting a **president impeached**.
The goal was to sour the country on the whole idea of impeachment to such a degree that we would desire to avoid that national freakshow a second time; thus allowing the war criminal George Bush Jr to start two wars of aggression without the American people putting up much resistance.
Compare it to the atomic bomb; so terrible we never used it again. Impeachment was so awful for the national psyche that after we did it once (over a small matter) we were completely disinclined to do it again, over an issue that actually deserved it (War Crimes).
tl;dr - The republicans impeached Clinton so that Bush could commit war crimes with impunity.
EDIT: The presidential election of 2000 *was* stolen, and we had ample evidence of September 11th before it happened, but did nothing to stop it. Just trying to head off some counter-arguments.
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8 Pieces of Evidence that Would Convince Me 9/11 was an Inside Job.
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This is not to say that these things would necessarily exist, but that their existence would convince me.
**The existence of remote-controlled, Boeing 767 drones.**
These would have had to have been designed, tested and built. There should be photographs of the drones, test footage, and probably one or more prototypes. Where are the plans, engineering details, feasibility study results?
**Someone alive today who was supposedly on AA Flight 77 or any of the other flights.**
If a cruise missile hit The Pentagon, then the people who supposedly got on AA Flight 77 should still be alive today. There are ticket records and Airline personnel records showing who was to be on that airplane, but if a missile hit The Pentagon where is the airplane and where are the people? The same could be said for the two that hit the Twin Towers.
**Video footage of a cruise missile hitting The Pentagon.**
No video footage of the DC attack has been shown, but this would convince me.
**Audio or video of the President or his staff discussing the attacks.**
While they could have not used the recording devices used for most Presidential meetings or it could be a lie that all the President’s communications are recorded, audio of any of the hundreds of hours of discussion and planning that would have had to go into such an operation would convince me.
**The wiring and demolition plans for the Twin Towers.**
There had never yet been a controlled demolition on the scale of the Twin Towers. The tallest building destroyed by controlled demolition was the Hudson’s Department store in Detroit, MI at 439 ft tall, or roughly one third the size of the WTC. For that, a 21 man crew needed three months to investigate the complex and four months to complete preparations for the implosion design and a 12 person loading crew took twenty four days to place 4,118 separate charges in 1,100 locations on columns on nine levels of the complex. The WTC would have been several orders of magnitude more complex, so where are the structural studies, wiring plans and demolition plans?
**Video or photographs of the demolition work.**
Surveillance footage of trucks bringing in equipment, works hauling it up elevators, tearing out walls to get to support beams or workers installing demolition charges and wiring would convince me.
**Written military orders to launch a missile.**
Whichever unit launched the missile at The Pentagon, the actual launch orders would have had to have proceeded down the chain of command from the President to the specialists who would actually press the launch button and monitor its flight. It is reasonable to think that a colonel, major, captain or lieutenant would want orders in writing before ordering his troops to launch an attack on an American, civilian target.
**Written operation plans or authorizations.**
An operation this size would have required advanced, highly detailed planning. Someone would have had to order the construction of remote controlled dummy aircraft and authorized the money to build them. Someone would have had to authorize the purchase of the miles of detonation wire, detonators and explosive materials for the building. An operation on this scale should have produced thousands of pages of written plans and guidelines and copies would have had to have been distributed to the people involved in the planning, financing and execution.
As soon as I start seeing evidence like this, I might believe that 9/11 was an inside job orchestrated by the US Government.
**Quick Note**
Did you guys miss the point? This the evidence that would convince ME. This is what I require. Me. Me. Me.
This has nothing to do with anything else than what would convince me.
Yeah, it's pretty specific evidence. But again, until I see evidence of this caliber, I'm not buying into any conspiracy. That is how evidence works. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and what I'm asking for isn't even extraordinary. It's basic evidence.
No, these are not straw men or things that are "impossible." These are pieces of evidence, that, if presented would convince me. That is it. That is all.
Until I see evidence of this type, however impossible, you will not convince me. Plainly and simply this is what would convince ME!
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TIL: FT. Hood in Texas is burying tons of food 24 hours a day and has been for years (????)
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Night before Christmas when on the way home from my grandparent's house (about an hour away through the boonies) and I ran out of gas because all the gas stations were closed that I had passed and tried to get gas at (electric pumps closed and all, who the hell does that?)
So after sitting there for about 10 minutes, trying to find my AAA card this older guy stopped and asked if I needed help, I think I forgot to mention it was pouring rain. He gave me a ride to the gas station about 20 minutes up the road and while he drove we just chatted about this and that. He was really informed, and I was surprised.. we had a lot of the same view points on a lot of topics, which was really rare to find in my part of the woods.
He proceeded to tell me that his son was stationed at FT. Hood in the military for many years. When his son came home (year or two ago)he had told him that they were secretly bringing food in by the truckloads and burying it, they had been doing it 24 hours a day for the last 8 or more years. (TONS and TONS and TONS of food) He said the would just dig a huge hole, drop it all down in there, an cover it up...
This struck me as very odd. When I got home I tried to look up more information on this but all I could find was "Shooting at FT. Hood".
I'm just trying to see if anyone else knows anything about this.
Thanks
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Gnosticism: A Powerful Force (possibly THE conspiracy theory of the NWO), theology + economics [From an EdOp I wrote]
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Gnosticism is a little-known ancient religion (predating Judaism) whose religious texts and practices are now referred to as "pagan," "Satanic," "evil," and all kinds of other nasty names as a result of the Catholic Church’s pernicious smear campaign when it rose to power. It’s been equated with devil worship, because that was the easiest way to persecute its followers for heresy. Why was it such a dangerous enemy to an all-powerful church, who controlled not only the souls of the people but also their laws? I’ll tell you why: because its teachings contained the power to unravel the belief structure of EVERY major religion. Its religious texts contain the "unifying story" that tie the religions together from a common "evil" source.
So let’s summarize what happened here: we have the original story (and it was, back then, just a story - with a lot of potential for fooling people), ripped off by other major religions, and the original texts themselves were subsequently dubbed evil, banned, burned, cursed, and outlawed. But there’s also a secret to what happened: the ones in charge - perhaps the Pope himself, perhaps some shadowy figures maintaining power over the church from afar - kept a copy or two of the complete original texts. They still exist. They’re still out there.
These shadowy figures who pulled the strings of the major religions from then on negotiated unimaginable power for themselves. They became very rich and influential. Any time their organization became public, they started a new one and arranged for the lower-rung members to be persecuted under their old name, thus destroying any ties between them. This happened with the Knights Templar, the old Illuminati, and several other secret organizations throughout the years - all of them controlled by the same people.
Where are they now? Well, they’re not hard to find. The Bilderberg Group operates directly under their supervision, controlling all world events from the false-flag terror attacks such as the Christmas Underpants non-bombing to the orchestration of the Greatest Depression. Their ultimate goal is, of course, ultimate power - the establishment of a "New World Order," the ultimate triumph of the Gnostics over all other power structures.
What this means, boys and girls, is that the shadowy figures who rule the world are what you would commonly call "devil worshippers." They like it this way - it’s easy to spot an "occult" follower, and of course they’ll never make it into politics or be truly influential in any way. They have, in effect, perverted the true meaning of Gnosticism and used it to secure unlimited power for themselves.
Keep in mind that it was the original Gnostic belief that knowledge could TOPPLE power structures - but this knowledge had the unpredictable effect of becoming the most powerful tool for world domination ever known to man, when placed in the right hands. Not surprisingly, the sort of people who wanted to take over the world eventually found it and used it. This is a bad thing, because as we all know, the sort of people who want to take over the world should by no means be allowed to do it.
So is there any hope? Probably not. You can fight fire with fire, so to speak, but you’ll be "burned at the steak" (or in modern terms, ridiculed and called a conspiracy theorist). The only way to fight their perversion of knowledge is with the knowledge itself, and unfortunately, the secret to uniting world religions is universally considered evil. It’s possible - I know the story - but no one likes to hear it. Well, anarchists tend to like it, but for all the wrong reasons.
Maybe it’s inevitable. Maybe we should just trust them. Maybe those microchips they force on us will be for a good cause. I don’t know. But I can’t believe that it will be.
(If you actually want to read an approximation of this "evil story," go to theforbiddenreligion.com and click "The book" - and no, it’s not my website).
**TL;DR:** NWO has the secret to unifying world religions. They're all "devil worshippers." They're actually planning the coming of the Antichrist (the man who will pull the trigger).
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Can you help me with an article .... it's halfway through but I'm lost in what to add next.
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**Losing Touch with Reality**
People often hear the words “question everything” and like most people are self righteous think they have questioned the world and understand it, when in reality they have not tested the theories the rule of science, space, and the reality we live in. They reminisce and say they have it all figured out. What if for once people read articles so astounding they question matrix we live in is questioned to the point that reality itself becomes totally different in its being. Psychology has shown us that the mind has such a hard time that in these situations handling these shifts in reality that different identities are formed to deal with totally different view you have on the world after traumatic events such as rape and abuse. John Lennon once said “Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it.”. He then wrote the song “Help” that focuses around his new found knowledge and his pleas for someone to make him feel good because the knowledge is making him feel depressed and he is losing touch with perceived reality and needs to get his feet back on the ground. The intercatscies of the two different realities we live in and the ways things works and are manipulated to be the ways perceived as is a science that when thoroughly examined easily explains this seemingly chaotic series of events that we call life, but at the same time are rarely understood because of the mental constraints our development has put on understanding this alternate reality.
History has always been riddled with massacres and atrocities that cause many to question just how sane humanity is and if everyone around us is secretly insane. We quickly dismiss the fact, for even if they were fretting over it would only cause mental stress. When we look at civilization we see that it is built on a simple method. A man gets a group of people and persuades them through the manipulation of everyone’s primal urges of greed to kill and conquer another civilization. The dictator then uses his new found power and wealth to perpetuate his rule through the use of propaganda and over exaggeration of events or staging of false flag attacks on its nation to continue jumbling the nations emotions and drive them to further the leaders quest for world domination. When we look at such events we are led to ask what type of person should conceive such an atrocious system and the only possible explanation is a psychopath, which then leads us to question the mental stability of the people in power and if they’re in anyway like Ted Bundy, a seemingly normal and handsome man who would lure woman into the shadows where he would show his true colors, that of a psychotic rapist turned into murderer.
“The Dark Night” is a critically acclaimed movie that goes deep into the secret realm of psychopaths to show us how they think and their cunning abilities to gain power through deception. To let us into this world the movie uses The Joker, who is clearly detached from reality and uses human lives as pawns in his maniacal quest to seek control over Gotham city through the use of a fear campaign on both the establishments (government and mobsters), the heroes (Harvey Dent and Batman) and the people of Gotham. Seemingly random events seem to happen randomly in the movie but by the end the Joker has put all the pieces in place through the use of emotions. When compared to reality we have a chilling cinematic portrayal of what’s happening in the world, but unlike in real life the villains aren’t in masks and the ones that are trying to save us wear no cape.
The movie begins by the Joker robbing a bank and alerting batman of the get the leaders of the gangs to seek protection and then begin
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Waking people up = Illogical and stupid
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Many people still dont get it, and the Alex Jones people are the worst. Maybe a story that I heard from Anthony De Mello may help....
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So there it is: People don't really want to grow up, people don't really want to change, people don't really want to be happy. As someone so wisely said to me, "Don't try to make them happy, you'll only get in trouble. Don't try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it irritates the pig." Like the businessman who goes into a bar, sits down, and sees this fellow with a banana in his ear - a banana in his ear! And he thinks, "I wonder if I should mention that to him. No, it's none of my business." But the thought nags at him. So after having a drink or two, he says to the fellow, "Excuse me, ah, you've got a banana in your ear." The fellow says, "What?" The businessman repeats, "You've got a banana in your ear. " Again the fellow says, "What was that?" "You've got a banana in your ear!" the businessman shouts. "Talk louder," the fellow says, "I've got a banana in my ear!"
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War with Iran soon? Two sudden policy turns: US-Israel relations souring, Don't Ask Don't Dell repeal widens pool of available soldiers.
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Hypothetically:
1. US "indefinitely suspends" significant amounts of foreign aid to Israel, most of it in military hardware.
2. "Alone in the middle east," Israel attacks an Iranian nuclear site pre-emptively after a bit of fraudulent IAEA-related drumbeating.
3. Iran retaliates by attacking targets in Israel. US flies a false flag of old equipment, likely F-14A's to attack allied/civilian targets in Iraq, blaming it on Iran.
4. US retaliates but is stretched too thin.
5. US re-institutes draft under the guise of federal civil service/works progress, an idea long held by some old school Democrat partisans. (not that there's any difference between the parties in this conspiracy)
Whatever short term gain in oil, the military industrial complex, and the Federal government itself the conspirators will relish in is mired by the long term effects that they're ignoring.
The American conspirators will think they will win, but they will likely not with such a hugely demoralized apathetic populace. Russia would have a fucking fit about this. The nuclear threat looms too large. Meanwhile, China stays neutral and while suffering like the rest of everyone ultimately makes gynormous export profits and emerges a sole superpower after the US loses, if there's anything left of that country when everything's said and done.
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Alex Jones Police state film subliminal message.
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As many of you are aware, in AJ's latest film, "Police State 4" there are subliminal messages found throughout the flim that say "sumbmit" and then "to fear".
Critics of Alex Jones will no doubt claim this as proof that AJ is a fear monger. Which is why I'm skeptical that AJ even knew/knows these subliminal messages are in his film. I suggest that his latest film, 'Police State 4' was sabotaged by someone working with AJ on his latest film.
It would be easy to do. And its effective if you want to discredit AJ.
If AJ came out and admitted that he knew about the subliminal message, I would be disappointed as a fan of his. Such tactics are reprehensible. Which is why I have a hard time believing AJ knew about this message. AJ is many things, but he is not stupid enough to put a questionably effective message like "submit to fear" in his films. Hes never been caught using subliminal messages or other dirty tactics in any of his films before. It just doesnt make sense to me.
This issue is important. I should try calling in to his radio show and asking him about it. But I probably wont. Thats why I hope any infowarriors reading this will call him and ask him what the deal is.
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Albert Pike's Letter to Mazzini, outlining the three world wars, dated August 15, 1871.
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"**The First World War** must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."
"**The Second World War** must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."
(Readers who argue that the terms Nazism and Zionism were not known in 1871 should remember that the Illuminati invented both these movements. In addition, Communism as an ideology, and as a coined phrase, originates in France during the Revolution. In 1785, Restif coined the phrase four years before revolution broke out. Restif and Babeuf, in turn, were influenced by Rousseau - as was the most famous conspirator of them all, Adam Weishaupt.)
"**The Third World War** must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."
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Barrick Gold robbed American Taxpayers - guess who sits on its advisory board? Why Rothschild of course
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Extract from Greg Palasts book -
In the final days of the Bush (Senior) administration, the Interior Department made an extraordinary but little noticed change in procedures under the 1872 Mining Law, the gold rush-era act that permitted those whiskered small-time prospectors with their tin pans and mules to stake claims on their tiny plots. The department initiated an expedited procedure for mining companies that allowed Barrick to swiftly lay claim to the largest gold find in America. In the terminology of the law, Barrick could perfect its patent on the estimated $10 billion in orefor which Barrick paid the U.S. Treasury a little under $ 10,000. Eureka!
Barrick, of course, had to put up cash for the initial property rights and the cost of digging out the booty (and the cost of donations, in smaller amounts, to support Nevadas Democratic senator, Harry Reid). Still, the shift in rules paid off big time: According to experts at the Mineral Policy Center of Washington, DC, Barrick savedand the U.S. taxpayer losta cool billion or so.
Upon taking office, Bill Clintons new interior secretary, Bruce Babbitt, called Barricks claim the biggest gold heist since the days of Butch Cassidy. Nevertheless, because the company followed the fast-track process laid out for them under Bush, this corporate Goldfinger had Babbitt by the legal nuggets. Clinton had no choice but to give them the gold mine while the public got the shaft.
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Last night in a thread about BP I mentioned an email doing the rounds in the industry regarding events prior to the explosion. Here's the text
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This hasn't seemed to have gotten much circulation yet, and I think it really needs to. Seems that a crew from Schlumberger, on contract to BP, hightailed it off the platform at their own expense 6 hours before the blowout because BP refused their recommendation to shut down the well. This lends more credence to Thom's suggestion that corners were cut because the bigwigs were coming for a vist.
"BP contracted Schlumberger (SLB) to run the Cement Bond Log (CBL) test that was the final test on the plug that was skipped. The people testifying have been very coy about mentioning this, and you’ll see why.
SLB is an extremely highly regarded (and incredibly expensive) service company. They place a high standard on safety and train their workers to shut down unsafe operations.
SLB gets out to the Deepwater Horizon to run the CBL, and they find the well still kicking heavily, which it should not be that late in the operation. SLB orders the “company man” (BP’s man on the scene that runs the operation) to dump kill fluid down the well and shut-in the well. The company man refuses. SLB in the very next sentence asks for a helo to take all SLB personel back to shore. The company man says there are no more helo’s scheduled for the rest of the week (translation: you’re here to do a job, now do it). SLB gets on the horn to shore, calls SLB’s corporate HQ, and gets a helo flown out there at SLB’s expense and takes all SLB personel to shore.
6 hours later, the platform explodes."
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Note for r/Conspiracy
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I notice a lot of comments in here calling "Tea Partiers" racists and uneducated. Let's first take a sober look at the situation that affects us. The life blood of the war machine is the Federal Reserve money cartel. Inflation is the most regressive tax on the poor.
The freedom movement is an understanding that such tyranny can no longer continue. Whatever one may think of people in the freedom movement it should be obvious that the MSM is the last place to get an accurate picture of reality.
It is the MSM that is trying to force on the masses a person such as Sarah Palin. It was the MSM who attempted to destroy Ron Paul during the presidential election the only member of congress to actually put legislation out there to take down the Federal Reserve. Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich didn't think going to war for Israel was the right thing to do and they were slandered by the MSM for it.
All of your federal income taxes go toward paying off interest on the national debt. The income tax was instituted shortly after the creation of the Federal Reserve. Not wanting to be tax livestock for a few central bankers does not make one an ignorant racist.
Basically, don't let the MSM try to associate the real freedom movement with negative images. The Democrats, the Republicans, and the government in general is not there to help the people but to line their own pockets. When you oppose this system and its money cartel you are affirming your self-worth, not degrading it.
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Fractional Cents = Fractional Sense
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Why can gas stations employ fractional cents when charging consumers for gas? We’re charged an additional 9/10th of a cent per gallon for retail petrol. We think it’s $2.69 a gallon, but it’s really $2.69 and 9/10. We pay $2.70.
This begs the questions; can I actually purchase just $.009 worth of gasoline? What does $.009 worth of gasoline look like? Would it fit in a thimble? Would I get sick if I drank it? If I give them a penny how the hell do I get my .001 back? Do they give me those McDonald's "1/100 cash value" coupons?
There’s no way for me to pay for these “fractions” of a penny using currency. So how does the gas station get around this issue?
They round up!
Granted a few fractions of a penny isn’t much to scoff at during a typical transaction, but when you string those numbers out and include all affected motorists on a long enough time line you’ll see a significant number. I’m gonna’ guess billions. Of fractions. Of pennies. Over decades. You do. The math.
Modern gasoline pumps are sophisticated machines. They are fully automated for payment, they have apparatus’ that prevent vapor loss, sensors to repress tank overfill, and networked computers that calculate their output to the 0.001 gallon. They have those cool little windshield wiper holsters and some even have built-in trash receptacles (still waiting on the ash trays). They’re adorned with advertisements, television screens, and several options for gasoline grades. It would have taken a team of five attendants and General Zod to accomplish this task 40 years ago. But now a single pump can accomplish all these feats with little effort. And yet they still want to round up my purchase because that’s the way it’s always been done? Anachronistic bitches!
Let’s make this perfectly clear; never in your life (unless you’re 70+) have you ever purchased gasoline at its advertised price. Never. Ever. Yeah, you can see that it's 2.69 9/10, but you don't actually pay that amount. And you’ll never see that fraction drop to 7/10 or 1/10. Doesn’t that piss you off? Not because of the insignificant amount of money that’s dissipated from your pocket like a mysterious gas fume, but because gasoline distributors can achieve what is otherwise illegal in any other business practice. It’s commerce collusion and false advertising.
I will never look at gas prices the same. When someone says, “Hey look! Gas is down to $1.80!” I’ll assert, “And nine-tenths!”
According to the Energy Information Administration (eia.doe.gov) U.S. motorists consume approximately 275 million gallons of gasoline per day at the pump.
.009 x 275,000,000 = 2,475,000
That’s nearly $2.5 million accrued through fraction-cents in a single day. If you multiply that by the number of days in a year it's closer to $1 billion. This doesn’t include Ethanol or Diesel. It’s like the penny siphoning scheme from the movie Office Space but this is perfectly legal. And quite profitable!
Who gets this money? The distributors? (Most of whom claim they're are already being raped by the suppliers.)
I would like the fractions of my pennies returned to me or put toward my next fill-up.
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Reddit is a hivemind
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First off, you ever notice how hivemind gets tossed around and immediately condemned around here? I think it's a horrible inside joke that we've all fell prey to and filled the wallets of an elite few.
Here's the story::
Reddit is ran by not Conde Nast, nor the reddit admin team. It is actually ran by a group of internet gang members.
Take into account these seemingly unrelated things.
The Saydrah drama was actually the reddit hierarchy eating their own. The same thing that Saydrah was doing for Associated Content, Mercurial Madness Man, Karma Naut, qghy2, ytknows, and others had been and continue to still do today.
Look at the most popular reddits in the subreddit list. Then look at the moderators of those reddits, you start to see a huge overlap.
They don't even try to hide, thats the biggest dicksmack in the face yet. Those amazon links that are sponsored links at the top of the reddit frontpage, thats just a cookie setting scam. If you click that link, it will set an amazon cookie that will tie your browser to that particular person.
The next time you make a purchase from amazon.com or any of its affiliates, qghy2 gets a cut.
Amazon goes with the philosophy of "any sale, no matter how we got it, is a good sale" and encourages this behavior.
They're laughing at you, laughing all the way to the bank
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"It's an integer followed by 100 other integers" - he replied back to me
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"what the hell is an integer?" - I asked
"a number"
"why couldn't you just have said number, or a 1 followed by 100 zeroes?"
"because that's not what it is"
"this is why I don't like nerd duty! either way, we've gotta work on the spelling, that word looks like a word you'd vomit."
Anyways, thats how I remember it going down anyways. It was 1998 and altavista and yahoo ran the most popular search engines the world had ever seen. Altavista ended up going their own way and yahoo had formed a new relationship with a startup called google.
The rest, as they say, is history.
What they don't say ... is what "REALLY" happened.
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Ever since I saw Kevin Costner in "The Untouchables" I've wanted to be a G-Man. I spent all of junior high thinking about how I'd be the best agent the FBI had ever seen. Then I got into computers and everything changed.
After graduation I went to the FBI for training and evaluation. I was so happy, I was finally there, I was finally doing it! I was on top of the world for those 4 months. Then, my life got so much better, it's hard to grasp just how much I didn't know at the time about happiness and service to your country.
I was recruited by a private security firm. I was dumb and sure of myself about it. I wanted to be an FBI agent all my life, but $5,000,000.00 made me think it'd be okay to put that part of my life on hold for a bit.
I was told that I had been selected to work with their firm and the NSA. I never had an interview, or saw a job description, but I was given an immediate offer of $5mill, so I took it. Also, it's not a coincidence that "No Strings Attached" is also acronymed NSA.
They love NSA relationships, because there are always strings, and they pull and control them.
So second round funding had been approved for "echelon" ... and I was going to be in charge of all of it. Pending I didn't get killed in the 6 month preparation and the 25 years of servitude I was contractually bound to didn't kill me either.
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Shit, brb ... edit #2 coming soon!
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Posting this from TOR: I'm in the military and the secret is spreading.
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Let me state the obvious:
1. I'm posting this from a series of TOR enabled connections (slow as hell by the way).
2. Using a live CD which will be discarded afterwards.
3. Fake reddit account I've created for just this purpose.
4. I will not give out any personel information, will not name names, etc. You either believe me or you don't. My goal here is simple: I only want to spread the word that members of the military are aware what is happening (and what has happened).
5. Former digg reader, by the way, that is new here. Really like this whole self-post feature.
BACKGROUND:
I'm officer (mid level) that went to a nationally known military academy (eg. West Point, USNA, AWC, etc) that wound up doing intelligence related work in Iraq during the 2004-2006 timeframe. I have a TS security clearance and have been doing MOS 97B (counter-intelligence) work for sometime.
I have been stationed back in the States largely assisting troops in the field with intelligence information reports (troop movements, unusual convoys, etc).
SITUATION:
For a few years now there has been a growing realization that Mossad played a big part in 911. I have personally seen documents which indenty specific persons of interest that link them with the events that day (sorry can't be more specific). Moreover, I have seen documents that paint a radically different story of events (missles fired, planes being shot down, etc) then is portrayed by evening news.
Regardless, even given the normal strict control of information that the military imposes, this information has been leaking out....and people are getting pissed.
I've personally heard numerous anti-Isrealis statements being made: Things to the effect of "Still doing Isreali work?" (like when referring to someone about to be deployed - in reference to the open acknowledgement these wars were spawned by Isreal, etc). Or, I was recently having a few too many drinks with a Captain who is my CO and he said directly "If the american people ever find out the truth about all of this, the hammer will fall on Isreal so hard that there won't be any land left for them and the Palestinians to fight over."
Overall this type thing seems to becoming more and more common. These little offhand comments are truely indicative of a brewing hatred for all things Isreali and many military people feel so duped and screwed over by our own politicians in much of this.
OUTCOME:
At this moment the true command ranks (say Major and above) either don't want to hear about any of this - or possibly know too much and want the whole thing to just go away. So help from the current leaders will not happen.
But, the mid-level officers (say Captain and below) are much more infuriated and outraged about some of the things we are learning. (To make something clear, there are no secret files that state: The Jews did 911 and here is how.....its more of a thing that once you start piecing together various small bits of info a far different picture begins to emerge).
As for outcome, I think its up in the air at the moment. A number of us (me included) have lost most of those patriotic feelings that drove me to join up in the first place, and now basically just want out of the military and find work in the civilian sector (harder to say rather do in this economy).
Some others may stick it out and wind up raising in ranks to one day be leaders. There is one other mid-level CI agent that I know that fantasizes about a war erupting between US and Isreal over all of this.....will these types of people ever get a chance to enact their revenge? Who knows....
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Their best (and only?) unaddressed defense: "9/11 was too complex to be an inside job." (Can we discuss this?)
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Having given this notion a few hours of thought, "my gut" (something that the conservatives in this group will understand), tells me that about 20 American knew (definitely) of the planned event. the rest were foreign agents of mossad (mostly).
Naming names:
Cheney,
Wolfowitz,
the small team that launched the missile that hit the pentagon (though it could have been a mobile missile smuggled in years prior and controlled by a mossad sleeper cell within the US, so maybe not "necessary"),
Silverstein (owner of WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7 -- the three buildings that collapsed. he did not own of the other WTC buildings. just those three. and no other WTC buildings collapsed. just those three.). i assume he is american. (I could be wrong.)
the small team that shot-down the shanksville plane. (again, it could have been a ground-based, mobile missile that shot-down Flight 93. another mossad sleeper cell -- easily. so again, perhaps not "necessarily".)
the agents (federal and cia) whom were first on the scene at the pentagon all most certainly know (or have their suspicions) that no plane hit the pentagon. (and we know this from quoted testimonials from former cia officials were were on the scene.) so there are certainly a few (some who have come out publicly). but again, these are people who never knew that grand plan in advance... still maybe not even be aware of the grand plan... but are, for the sake of the nation, their job, and the safety of their families, willing to play along with the cover-up.
my only unknown relates to the airplanes. but let's assume a few sr. members of both United and American were aware of the circumstances -- in advance.
all the demolitions stuff could have been easily managed by foreign (likely mossad) agents. easily.
all the generals involved in the training missions that day could have been simply told to execute a training mission. (so none of the military brass that day needed to know anything specific - they were just distracted with orders.)
again... my thought is that "the grand plan" could have been executed with the full, advanced knowledge of less than 20 Americans. and continues to be "covered-up" by less than 500 "suspicious" insiders, but lacking proof, and fearing for their livelihoods, are willing to play along. (thought not all are willing to play along, and some have come forward to express their doubts, sustains and knowledge about the day.)
**bottom line: i believe most of the planning and execution was conducted by mossad, with the willing participation and active support from a small, but influential group of less than 20 Americans. in the sense that less than 20, very elite Americans (including members of the white house) actively supported this event, and that lacking their active support "the grand plan" could never have been successfully executed. in that sense, 9/11 was an "inside job".**
I think the biggest reason the Faithers continue to insist that the official story is accurate, is because they do not stop and consider that the effort was a cooperation between our nation and another. **Faithers think in black and white terms (us or them... they did it 100% or we did it 100%, and there is no way we did it 100% so it must be them). but that is where Faithers fail. we do not live in a black and white world. "inside job" does *NOT* mean President George Bush gave direct orders to plan and execute 9/11, and everyone knows but is unwilling to come forward.** "inside job" simply means that Larry Silverstein knew - at the very least. And as an American "elite", had the connections to alert the White House - directly - if he wanted to.
In fact, I think about 20 Americans knew in advance (including members of the White House), and if any one of their had chosen to come forward at the time, the entire event would have been prevented. but no one did. everyone had a personal incentive to enable it. (Silverstein got a couple $ Billion in insurance money. Cheney and Wolfowitz got their wars. Etc.)
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9/11 News: "the military never had any of the hijacked airliners in its sights and at one point chased a phantom aircraft -- American Airlines Flight 11 -- long after it had crashed into the World Trade Center" -- cnn
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now before everyone get's their panties in a bunch about cnn - set it aside for now.
my issue is with the "hijacked planes". it always has been my issue:
1. the buildings: obviously demolished (anyone with a knowledge of high school-level physics can tell you that).
2. the pentagon: clearly not a plane. (but NORAD was tracking a plane. and flight data information released under the freedom of information act clearly shows a plane in the area of the pentagon, but also clearly shoes the plane flying over the pentagon. OVER? ok... so then... on to where?) what happened to the people on board that plane? barbara olsen, for one. if the plane flew over the pentagon, where is she now?
3. shanksville? who knows wtf that was about. clearly no 727 buried itself into the ground there. i believe a plane was shot down... but i also believe it may have been a small jet that was shot down - not a commercial jet. so where did shanksville plane go?
4. and last but not least, the planes that flew into the trade towers. whatever hit the towers, it was not a manually controlled plane by a novice cave dweller. (or even a semi-trained arab.) those planes for flying full-out, direct hits, and pulled off entirely too difficult approaches for it to be anything other than a remotely guided device. weather they were missiles or planes, they was electronically guided.
if missiles (or military planes with special guidance systems), it would explain why hijacked United tail numbers were seen weeks and months after 9/11. and it was explain the radar sighting of a "phantom" - perhaps it was the actual planes. and then perhaps United and American did get their planes back... (from wtc 1,, 2 and from the pentagon).
but then... what happened to the people?!
any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Two Separate People Confirmed an Underground Tunnel System with High-Speed Maglev Trains in the United States
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Last March during a roadtrip through the Southwest, I went to Taos, NM to visit the Hanuman Temple. I met a guy there who lived right outside Los Alamos. He explained his wife works as a consultant on the inside, and he mingles with scientists and military personal on a pretty regular basis. I pressured him to share what he had learned from them, and one of the things he mentioned was there was an underground tunnel system with high-speed maglev trains that connect all around the US (mostly all the underground bases like Los Alamos, Cheyenne Mountain, Las Vegas, etc.)
Last week in Columbus, GA, I struck up another convo with a guy who mentioned DARPA quite often, and he confirmed what the Taos man shared with me. This Columbus guy said the train technology isn't ready for the general public, because of the high g-forces that are inflicted upon the body, but there is an underground tunnel system with these trains all across the US. This guy mentioned the technology is similar to the Japanese maglev trains but superior.
If anyone has done any research on this subject, I'd love to read up on it, but it looks like there is definitely a high-speed, underground rail system in the US.
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Stop it with this UFO bullshit. Here's how to make your own
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OK folks. You are all being trolled. Here's how to make your own:
- 40 Litre rubbish bag
- 2 meta coat hangers
- 4 jiffy fighter lighter cubes.
- cut the hook off both hangers with wire cutters
- straighted both hangers
- make a cross with the hangers
- twist each hanger around so the will hold together
- feed the fighter lighters like a shish kabab
- make sure cubes are as close to the middle as possible
- get the garbage bag and hang it over the cross
- fold the bag (1 inch) many times over for strength
- pierce the bag through the cross making a parachute
- use pliers to fold the metal around the bag so it will hold
You've now made you very own hot air ballon, err UFO. Just be careful though, if they don't completely burn off in flight, you will get a fireball coming back down to the ground like in the recent videos. This is at your own risk. I take no responsibility if you cause any fires/deaths/destruction.
To successfully fly, you need to get somebody to hold the bag up while you light the cubes. Make sure that the bag doesn't catch on fire while it fills up with hot air. Once it feels light, let it go. Now grab your camera and follow it around, then send it into your local news station. Don't forget to include dialog like "OMG! a fucking alien" to make the footage more realistic.
Once you've mastered the hot air ballon/UFO, you can setup many to launch at the same time (depending on time/assistants). Launching 10 at the same time at night makes it look like an alien attack is approaching.
Flight time depends on how many cubes you used can get to about 2-20 minutes in flight. Depending on wind, they can go straight up (past the clouds) or track violently in the sky going 10Km in any direction.
Just stay away from airports and don't be a dick.
I'm probably going to get one of those FBI trackers on my car and heavy breathing on my phone line now aren't I?
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Reddit, Cynics and Conspiracy Theorists.
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Hello, this is hopefully going to be a small bit of text about how the accessibility of Reddit causes a lot of 'Conspiracy Theories' to be seen by the masses. I'l look at the effect it is having, and try to make a few points I wanted to get off my chest.
Firstly let me just clear the crap which is being spread. There's 'extreme cynics' who don't believe anything they can't see themselves. There's 'extreme conspiracy theorist' who tend to believe things without viable sources.
What a few redditors and indeed from both sides tend to forget is; an 'extreme' view does not represent everyone from that side. e.g. We have people who believe the world is still flat. And we also have people who are so cynical they believe the government and media are completely truthful.
What I hope to make clear is there's a 3rd view. 'The researcher'. The researcher uses both sides of the arguments and uses conspiracy theories and cynicism not as views - but as tools to find the truth.
Now as a researcher who looks for the truth, I tend to get an idea or some kind of closure on subjects such as 9-11, the war in iraq etc. But when I do find these truths I am very compelled to share them and the finished goal is to spread the "truth" to everyone I can.
The problem I am facing is this misunderstanding between cynics and conspiracy theorists is kind of scaring off public interest to the point they lose interest or find it not worth the hassle. And as a researcher this really annoys me as the truth is never done justice.
Let me give the example of global warming, because there's been statements from different sides saying; it is happening - it isn't happening - it is an issue - it isn't ... quite a lot of people just ignore it and well frankly ignoring the concept global warming is a very bad thing.
In conclusion, in reddit (and indeed any boat in the information waters) we have a responsibility to try to present views and information properly. We need to make it easier for the masses to find out information and provide expert facilities of truth. Not everyone has the time and resources to be 'researchers' so people with interest in global events and controversial conspiracies need to bring the truth to these people responsibly.
For example I would love there to be a "wikileaks" type of sub reddit which showed unbiased truthful news. I would then love this sub reddit to get a lot of attention to the extend that mainstream media and all other news related medias' either have to adopt a responsible approach or become redundant.
Thanks for listening.
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The value of identifying a conspiracy is to predict the next time the conspirators conspire. I have 11 points and need a co-author.
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In researching the hell out of 9/11 lately, I have come to a startling premise for a text I am writing:
The value in identifying a past conspiracy is to predict the next conspiracy. [Edit: wish I could have gotten that in the headline...]
Ideally, before it happens, but this country is fucked. Americans will only look to the advice of people here when we can say "I told you so."
Ergo, looking at the events of 9/11, it should be quite easy to predict the next conspiracy.
*The next terrorist attack upon the United States will...*
**1) Have a very memorable date.**
Past: Remember the Alamo, Nine-11, and Seven Seven. Dates that disappear in the collective conscious do not serve the government agenda.
Future: My guess is "10/4" or very likely Superbowl Sunday.
**2) Only take one year of a President seeking office to plan.**
Bush was elected in November of 2000, the WTC fell in September 2001.
**3) Ensure tremendous profits for the conspirators.**
Past: Larry Silverstein bought the lease on the asbestos-ridden WTC for $15 million and made $7 billion profit off it.
Future: New football stadiums have a price tag that exceeds one billion. What is the value of two losing teams playing in a Superbowl?
**4) Reserved.**
I fucked up when I posted this.
**5) Ensure tremendous profits for the police and military industrial complex.**
Past: The Project For the New American Century predicted it.
Future: This one doesn't need much explanation.
**6) May seem novel, but emanates from plans and preparations.**
Past: The biggest lie from 9/11 is that they couldn't have predicted it. NORAD was training drills involving planes crashing into buildings on 9/11.
Future: Something really clever. My guess is one of Pakistan's [intentionally] lost nukes is brought into a stadium piecemeal and assembled on site and detonated.
**7) May require a slight suspension of normal procedures immediately up to and during the event to ensure the attack happens normally.**
Past: Power was shut down in the WTC leading up to 9/11. Bomb dogs were gone.
Future: Nobody important will be at this event. Geiger counters will be gone. Security procedures will be *noticably* lax the day of, but most people to report on them will have been killed.
**8) Have its internal response grow out of an existing security theater apparatus.**
Past: The Transportation Security Administration grew out of the farce that was private airline security with the presumption that weaponized jets were a very public matter.
All the fat airport security goons got cushy government jobs and the authority to do whatever they want.
Future: The Public Security Administration will grow out of the fact that private security in private events are incapable of preventing the unaffiliated public (fallout, etc.)
You don't think the fat fuck checking your ticket stub wants a badge too?
**9) Have its external response occurring within one year of the President’s next election.**
Past: America will elect a wartime president. Bush went into Iraq under 9/11 conspiracies, a well-known enemy.
Future: Pakistan won't be a walk in the park for the next incursion. We are *already* prodding the Pakistanis with border incursions.
**10) Attack all that is true to America:**
Past: The world trade centers were the icon of capitalism.
Superbowl Sunday: "God, Country, and Football"
**11) Be part of the end game.**
Past: TSA security theater leads up to the destruction of unrestricted travel within the United States.
Future: Security theater will gradually destroy our freedom to assemble. The Public Security Administration will be required for large events, say 50,000. Over time, this will be whittled down to 5,000, 500, fifty, and ultimately five.
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Help me in my hour of need /r/conspiracy. I'm doing a 'conspiracy day' in my history class... (cont)
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And we have already had the 'setup' in the form of handouts describing conspiracy theorism in the context of paranoia, fringe, lunatic ect. And certainly it exists within that framework, however both the validity of the philosophy and the individual claims are not detracted by the fringe. Much the same as skepticism and Descartes if we were to look at him as a representation of the whole.
I doubt the debate will be one sided, I plan to make the case for conspiracy theorism based on how often its used as a pejorative label, instead of having a particular claim or piece of research examined with the merit of claims from other sources, 'trusted' sources.
However my problem is time, I will have very little time to make the case, and I suffer from being patient - not to mention I feel that the class (and teacher) may not share my point of view, and this will affect my ability to present my case (information) articulately and calmly.
Besides the point above, what do you advise as a topic that gives merit to the entire establishment (of conspiracy theory)?
I have considered both a single case of a lone "conspiracy theorist" being vindicated through the hindsight of time and further study, or perhaps try to rely on the words of experts to simply give validity to the case (there was a video posted here recently where Chomsky added to the problem of using conspiracy theorist as an ad hominem label, similar movie to 'Orwell Rolls in his Grave'.)
That is all, and thank you.
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The Contact: A Comprehensive Commentary
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The following is an attempt to interpret the ASCII-encoded message conveyed in a now notorious crop circle that that appeared in Crabwood England on August 15, 2002. No judgement is made upon it's genuinity. The encoded text is:
"Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES. Much PAIN but still time. BELIEvE. There is GOOD out there. We OPpose DECEPTION. Conduit CLOSING."
--Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES.
This likely refers in the first place to Lucifer, the Light Bearer, who holds the false gifts of money and power and sex and supposedly promises lucrative things like immortality or enlightenment or eternal extacy in return for the ceding of your soul.
The second sentence in that case describes what awaits you if you did in fact cooperate with Lucifer: "Much PAIN but still time" means that you will suffer, but not eternally.
Or the first sentence can refer to the god Yahweh or the god Tohil from the Popol Vuh, both of whom are quite monotheistic and promise their "chosen people" the dominion over all the other nations in return for worship, and both of whom fail to deliver.
--Much PAIN but still time.
This line, then, refers to the present condition of being subjected to a very dystopian society, or, more specifically, to the covert chronic muscle tension mostly resulting from the action of malevolent magic. Again, such a state is temporary, it will be dispelled.
--BELIEvE.
Have good faith in the eternal, all-knowing and supremely loving God. Do believe in the existence of ET civilizations. And you have to trust that the dystopia is not permanent.
--There is GOOD out there.
This affirms that there exist forces that have not succumbed to a malevolent conspiracy of egoism, manipulation and corruption. Indirectly, this implies that the GOOD itself is by no means merely a social construct, but that there exists an objective basis for such an idea, and thus those who embrace evil are wrong.
--We OPpose DECEPTION.
Whoever the authors are: extraterrestrials, humans or spirits, these words show their intent to clearly demonstrate that they know there exists a hidden deceitful clique that has surrounded the people with lies, obfuscation, illusions and censorship to prevent us from discovering the truth.
--Conduit CLOSING.
This is a good selection of words that are necessary to identify the end and thus the beginning of the circular message. Other variants like "Bye", which displays familiarity, "End of message", which conveys the feeling of formality and thus of superiority, or "Over and Out"/"Transmission Over", that have the scent of trying to appear witty and entertaining, are clearly less successful and would impair the message.
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The police stopped me, tried to search me without warrant, and I think they broke into my house, Help!
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Today was a semi nice day so I decided to drive my motorcycle to a couple of client visits today. When I left my house I was followed out of my neighborhood and for about 10 miles by a silver ford car with dark tented windows. I noticed right away as I left, and tried to figure out if they were indeed following me by just making it threw a red light, and then trying to lose them on the freeway.
They caught back up to me each time, but never got closer than 30 yards or so behind.
When I got to my exit they exited as well, but turned into a parking lot before I ended up stuck in traffic at a long red light. They would have had no choice, stay right behind me or turn.
Within 20 yards of making it to turn right at the light a police motorcycle pulls right behind me. I seen him in my mirror, and was keeping an eye, but waited about 3 minutes before letting him know I seen him. Eventually I turned around and waved right at him, and he immediately waved back then turned on his lights and siren and pulled me over.
Once pulled over he walked up to me and asked for permission to search my backpack, my self, and my bike. I asked him why I was pulled over and he stated: "I can not tell you yet, do I have permission to search you?"
I told him no, and that I would only submit to a search with a warrant, and that I know he must tell me the reason for pulling me over. He responds to not move he will be right back.
Within 3 minutes 4 more local police cars pull up surrounding me, and immediately they are joined by a US Border Patrol truck. They all stand and talk just far enough for me to not be able to hear them, and they take turns coming up to me one by one to ask why I refuse to allow the search.
I stood my ground, and at one point one of them told me they are going to get a warrant to search me. I asked him what his probable cause was and he said: "you are refusing to allow a search, that is pretty much all we need".
I laughed really hard and told him I know better and that the warrant and search would be dismissed in a heartbeat in any court.
The entire incident took nearly 45 minutes, and I repeatedly asked if I was being detained, and was told no. Each time I asked if I was free to go, and was also told no.
Some strange points:
1. They never took my ID, and my bike is not in my name, yet they addressed me: Mr. XXXXXX (with my last name)
2. I have expired tags on my bike, but it was never brought up.
3. While they all gave me weird looks, they also all seemed pretty confused, and didn't really treat me that bad. Most of them were pretty pleasant to me.
4. I have two warrants for my arrest for unpaid speeding tickets, and they never said a word about them.
5. They eventually told me to have a nice day, and let me go without any explaination other than the original cop telling me: "sorry, I think this was a case of mistaken id" (WTF does that mean, they called me by name many times.)
Ok, this happened and about 2 hours later I went home and dropped my bike off, and picked up my car. I then went to pick my kids up, and was gone for maybe another hour.
When I got home with the kids the front door to my house was wide open, which is very strange because nobody has keys but the kids, my wife, and myself, and we never use the front door. I check it every night, and it is never opened or unlocked.
Nothing in my house is missing that I can tell, but my laptop that I always put to sleep was awake and not locked. (I always lock it, and can tell by the light on the side what state it is in)
So, did I get secretly searched at my house, and what is going on in this country???
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My biggest conspiracy theory: China has been at war with the USA for decades and they don't even know it. Click for more.
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It sort of hit me the other day when I saw Americans stampeding and trampling each other for cheap Chinese goods at Wal-Mart. I thought to myself HOLY CRAP, China has turned us into mindless consumerist animals. AND then it hit me that this is not an accident. This is something that had to be planned and coordinated decades ago, and is now coming to fruition. The main premise of their plan was the USA is the super power, how can we dismantle them? We can't do it via conventional war methods. So thus it began... the plan to neutralize America. 1) Produce ultra cheap product, create and fuel a new type of American consumer, a drone animal that consumes cheap chinese product at all costs. 2) Hook American companies into cheap labor, they need cheap labor to fuel these new American consumers with cheap product. So all US labor migrated over to China. 3) Cheap products and labor, drive an American consumer frenzy which reverberates through all sectors of America. An insatiable desire to spend and acquire 'stuff' -cars, hummers, big houses, techno gadgets. 4) Place psychoactive compounds in the cheap product you sell to American consumers -Lead, BPA and much more. This causes mental instability in most Americans who have their hands all over the products and get the chemicals into their systems. Mental illness sweeps the nation. Americans then need drugs to cope with this crazy new mass consumerist life and the terrible cycle continues. It is now coming to a head. "Made in China" has essentially destroyed the USA in every way imaginable. Mindless consumers buy product, borrow money, eat fake cheap food, watch mindless TV, take drugs. China is just sitting under a big "Mission Accomplished" banner and cracking open the champagne. "Dim sun, your cunning plan took 30yrs, but it has worked! Congratulations!". America falls, China becomes the new super power. They were funded by the US to get to this point, and now the US is gone so they re-direct exports to the rest of the world to compensate. With the US out of the picture this is easy and far more profitable, etc. So... thoughts?
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Aeronautical Engineers Report on the theory of Santa
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After much research, we present the Aeronautical Engineers Report on the theory of Santa
No known species of reindeer can fly. BUT there are 300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects and germs, this does not COMPLETELY rule out flying reindeer, which only Santa has ever seen.
There are 2 billion children (persons under 18) in the world. BUT since Santa doesn't (appear) to handle the Muslim, Hindu, Jewish & Buddhist children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total - 378 million according to Population Reference Bureau. At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that's 91.8 million homes. One presumes that there's at least one good child in each.
Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with. This is due to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical). This works out to 822.6 visits/second. That is to say that for each Christian household with good children, Santa has .001 second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get back into the sleigh and move on to the next house.
Assuming that each of these 91.8 million stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false but for the purposes of our calculations we will accept), we are now talking about .78 miles/household, a total trip of 75.5 million miles; not counting stops to do what most of us do at lease once every 31 hours, plus eating etc. So Santa's sleigh must be moving at 650 miles/second, 3,000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle on earth, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a pokey 27.4 miles/second. A conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles/hour.
If every one of the 91.8 million homes with good children were to put out a single chocolate chip cookie and an 8 ounce glass of 2% milk, the total calories (needless to say other vitamins and minerals) would be approximately 225 calories (100 for the cookie, give or take, and 125 for the milk, give or take). Multiplying the number of calories per house by the number of homes (225 x 91.8 x 1000000), we get the total number of calories Santa consumes that night, which is 20,655,000,000 calories. To break it down further, 1 pound is equal to 3500 calories. Dividing our total number of calories by the number of calories in a pound (20655000000 / 3500) and we get the number of pounds Santa gains, 5901428.6, which is 2950.7 tons.
The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized Lego set (2 lb.), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably described as overweight. On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300lb. Even granting that "flying reindeer" (see #1) can pull 10 TIMES the normal amount, we cannot do the job with 8, or even 9, reindeer. We need 214,200. This increases the payload - not counting the weight of the sleigh - to 353,430 tons. This is four times the weight of the ocean-liner Queen Elizabeth.
353,000 tons travelling at 650 miles/second creates enormous air resistance. This will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as a spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer will absorb 14.3 QUINTILLION joules of energy. Per second. Each. In short, they will burst into flame almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them and create deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team will be vaporized within .00426 of a second. Meanwhile, Santa will be subjected to centrifugal forces 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250 lb. Santa, being very conservative in terms of guessing Santa's weight, would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 lb. of force.
So, if Santa ever DID deliver presents on Christmas Eve, he's dead now.
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possible UFO, please answer my questions so I can make this an IFO
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Alright so I saw 2 floating red rectangles, and a few white orbs super far out in the ocean. I pulled out binoculars to look at some boats and I saw the objects I just mentioned floating not too high in the sky around them. The objects weren't connected to the boats because the boats moved on but the objects didn't.
now My questions are,
I asked an old guy on the beach and he said they were markers in the sky for a race that was going on.
can someone show me what a marker for boat races floating in the sky would look like?
"I called palm beach parks and recreation, and they didn't know of any boat race going on today, plus they were different kinds of boats"
also Another person told me they may be balloons people fish with? can someone show me what those look like from afar?
I watched these things for an hour. the rectangles kind of moved around slow and sometimes only one was visible. they drifted pretty far to the left over the hour and were sometimes very close together or far apart.
the orbs seemed very stationary if not for some up and down movement but slowly and barely perceptable. they did also drift pretty far to the left over the hour.
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My theory on airport security
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Dont know if this is an original theory but its an idea I just had
So the obvious ploy behind airport security is to slowly take away our right to freedom in the US through fear, see how far they can push us and just generally another way for the government to remain dominant over the people. But I thought of another reason as to why the government is doing this. It is to discourage the american people to to travel, especially outside of the country. IMO traveling other places generally makes one more aware of the world around them. When you are put in a foreign country and very out of place you can really get perspective on the world you live in. You become more worldly and generally more accepting of other cultures and people. Making airplane travel a perceived dangerous thing makes us not want to fly and stay in our small communities (states, countries, cities etc..). This encourages closed minded behavior and a furthering of "Us and Them" mentality that the US government seems to love.
Again this is just a thought that came to me that I hadn't considered before, inspired by listening to George Carlin talk about airport security from a stand up years old. What do you think?
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Just watched Zeitgeist for the first time, oh fuck.
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Since joining Reddit I've become very interested in world affairs and politics, and not the representation of them provided by the mainstream media, but work by the truly intelligent and independent reporters. My first thoughts of conspiracy was, 'what a bunch of crazies' but the more you read and cross check some of these things the more it becomes apparent that you guys are the minority of people that are actually aware of whats going on. This morning I sat completely gripped watching John Pilger's 'The War You Don't See', and just finished Zeitgeist. I have the Obama Deception ready to watch and as a secondary function of this post could anyone link me some other well produced and informational films in the same vein of thought?
It is all terrifyingly clear that the movie is 100% correct. Everything fits and makes sense, not to mention its backed by solid evidence. I sat there and wondered how the masses could actually let this atrocity of a NWO form, but if the governments been so successful in persuading us to go to war this many times its not a stretch to imagine they can persuade us that a one world government is a good idea. Once those RFID chips are implemented they literally have us by the balls, and even if we realize whats happening theres nothing we can do at that point.
What the fuck? I'm stunned by everything I just watched...What can I do? I posted the movie to Facebook, but in 99-100% of the cases even if people follow the link they'll be like 'Fuck that, too long.' Which just demonstrates the sad state of affairs on a personal level.
I'm scared, /conspiracy.
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Conspiracy *hypothesis* about US foreign policy...
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The question- why are we wasting so much money on hopeless endless occupations and counter-guerrilla wars in horrible places across the globe that we'd have been better off never sticking our noses into in the first place? It just doesn't make sense. Or does it? It's pretty naive to think the leaders of the most powerful military in the world are just making *foolish* decisions. Other cynical explanations, like needing to keep feeding money into the overgrown war industry are a little better, but still don't really explain the specifics. For example we could have basically conquered the continent of Africa in the name of human rights and democracy, or eradicated the whole cocaine industry in South America for the same amount of money spent and lives lost.
So I was thinking, what if everything our military has been doing over there somehow *does* make sense, and it *is* totally necessary that we have been putting so much effort into the war machine. But it only makes sense if you know the real reasons our soldiers are where they are, and those real reasons are more fucked up than most Americans could imagine.
Here's one scenario:
Remember all those misplaced old Soviet nuclear warheads? It seems highly unlikely that none of them fell into the "wrong hands." But in all the time that nukes have been missing, none have been detonated by terrorists. If someone who just wanted to kill a lot of Americans got a nuke, they'd probably use it right away, and these bombs have been unaccounted for for decades now.
What if most of them now belong to private individuals, particularly, international organized crime lords? Who don't really *want* to set them off, as long as the CIA snipers leave them alone, our "security contractors" do them some special favors here and there, and no one ever finds out about any such arrangement?
Despite all that talk of never negotiating with terrorists, if someone says they've got H-bombs under the 10 largest US cities and can read off the serial numbers on the warheads; we're going to negotiate. And they're going to be the ones in control of the negotiations.
So we're fighting wars we can't win and can't pull out of primarily as cover for the dirty work we're doing for various regional warlords, political extremist groups and filthy-rich psychopaths with supervillain aspirations who are collectively holding the world hostage with the threat of nuclear catastrophe.
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An appeal to r/conspiracy and any other anti-Zionist users/sites.
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We've been infiltrated by Hasabra. We've been recently ATTACKED by the media, as the Jared Laughner attack has been labeled "Anti-Semitic" and carried out by a "conspiracy-nut" Laughner was/is not sane, and I doubt he was even conscious of his actions. But none the less the Zionist controlled media will use this incident as a way to indict anyone who is critical of Israel or Zionist Control of America.
Zionism is the true enemy of Freedom, if we have any hope making it out of the next 5 years with our rights and our Freedoms. we're going to need to change the way that we expose them. Their main defense is "Racism" or "Anti-Semitism". So from this point forward I strongly suggest that we change our lexicon to be more of a *political* discourse as a opposed to what could be perceived as a racial discourse by observers.
No name calling, No impatience, and No ad-hominem. Keep your arguments concise, and on point. Don't make any statement that can be taken out of context, and these Hasabra types will have NO fuel for their argument.
I know it's a lot to ask and I know that not everyone is aware of or agrees with the fact of ZOG, but it is quickly becoming the only tangible truth. I will leave you to make your own decision, but I believe it would help our cause very much if we take out their main defense, and then these people have *NO* legitimate argument under *ANY* circumstances.
It'll be like Einstein debating the Cookie Monster..
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Conspiracy: Alex Jones is a complete bullshit artist sellout.
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Has anyone really sat down and heard this guy out?
- He says that video games and the media are here to turn your kids in to killing machines. Yet the "elite" is also poisoning their food to keep them/you docile. Which is it?
- Ever notice that all Alex's sponsors are companies that would favor destabilization? In fact the Genesis Communications Network is owned by a gold investment company (Midas Resources). Glenn Beck made the same move of getting in with a gold company then using his show to promote destabilization.
- Alex Jones doesn't believe gays should be allowed to get married. That doesn't sound like freedom to me.
- The elite wants you dead and they're coming up with a virus to kill everyone? So why did the government and media tell people about AIDS? Also, why is the media glamorizing having kids if they want people off the planet?
- The elite want to rule the planet and then upload their brains in to computers. This is impossible and totally out of reach in their life time.
- The elite think they can pass their "energy" down to their kids and live on like that to keep controlling the world. Really? You don't become a powerful CEO elite by being crazy.
- Did you know Midas Resources has Dr. Laura Schlessinger as a spokesperson. You know she's a pathetic mean spirited bitch right?
- Jessie Ventura was on Alex Jones' show a long time before doing his conspiracy theory show. So when you watch 'Jessie Ventura's Conspiracy Theory' so when they blow the lid off the conspiracy and Jessie acts shocked he's acting. He knows all these conspiracies beforehand, nothing on the show is revealed to him. Jessie's good at this he learned how to bullshit when he was a wrestler.
- Charlie Sheen has been on the Alex Jones show, not long after he checks in to rehab.
- Where's Obama's brown shirts? (City Wide)
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Help Me Do Away With The FED!
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People of Reddit-
I am asking you to join me and my colleagues in our attempt to overthrow and rid the world of the corrupt, criminal organization that rules the economy know as the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States. The FED is NOT a branch of our government, yet it controls our government and has the ability to bring our government (and also the world) to it's knees. It's time for a Revolution. Tunisia and the underreported Egypt situations are the first in what I believe will be many regime changes around the world orchestrated by the people. While the corruption in those countries (and no doubt countless others yet to be exposed) is deplorable, they pale in comparison to what is going on here in the US. We have remained silent for too long. Now we are at a tipping point, where our economy is about to collapse, and we are standing by and watching it happen, powerless. I am calling on each of you to take the power back with me. It has to start somewhere, and through our efforts we can pioneer the change that will take place within our own borders. I am starting this post to organize the effort and begin the process to take our country back. Anyone that would like to help-share your ideas, and update frequently.
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This was just emailed to my company this morning...
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>>Earthquakes can occur at anytime and differ in severity. The following information will help when
an earthquake occurs while working.
>>Earthquakes vary in size from small and moderate to large. Small or moderate-sized earthquakes
can last for a few seconds and usually do not pose a threat. The effects of a small or moderatesized
earthquake range from objects shaking to minor ground vibration. Larger earthquakes can
cause violent shaking and items may fall from the ceiling, cupboards and walls. The effects of a
larger earthquake typically can be felt over a greater distance and can cause buildings to sway or
be damaged. Many earthquakes are followed with aftershocks and the same precautions should
be taken as a larger earthquake is still possible following the initial earthquake.
Safety precautions need to be taken no matter the size of the earthquake. Please be cautious of
any potential safety hazards caused by an earthquake such as falling items and furniture or
broken glass. Following an earthquake, there may be issues with electricity and the sprinkler
system, as well as, the fire alarm may turn on. Refrain from using the elevator.
There are 3 main steps to take when an earthquake occurs while indoors. They are Drop, Cover
and Hold on:
>>1) Drop to the ground immediately when an earthquake begins.
>>2) Cover your head and body under solid furniture while staying away from windows,
cabinets, or other items that could shatter or fall.
>>3) Hold on to the object that you are under until the shaking has finished.
>>Count 60 seconds following the shaking to ensure that the earthquake has concluded. Before coming out
from cover ensure there are no safety hazards preventing you from doing so safely.
Please remain inside and do not exit the building. If you can’t get under a solid piece of
furniture then you should flatten yourself or crouch against an interior wall and cover your head
and neck with your arms. If an earthquake occurs while you are in an elevator, hit the button for
the closest floor, get off the elevator as soon as possible and then take cover.
If you are outside when an earthquake occurs, make sure to stay outside and move to a safe
location away from any buildings, large trees, etc. Should you be travelling in a car when an
earthquake occurs, pull your car over to a safe location and stay in your car ensuring to stay
away from any fallen power lines, bridges or any other structures that have the potential to
collapse.
>>After an earthquake, please be sure to stay calm and assist others if you are able. Listen for
further updates that may be made available.
I couldn't really think of what the best subreddit would be but I think this is closest. On it's own, even with the NMF on fema's radar, means nothing. I just find this kind of notice very *odd*. It's the first time ever I've gotten any kind of notice on earthquake safety from an employer.
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The best way to reach out to others
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I've been trying out different approaches to start conversations on world government and total tyranny. And every time I start talking about the history of the families, eugenics, and current power holders I get stoned walled. What has been successful is to start talking to people about things that effect them. The recent laws of enumerated powers that destroy our foundation as a country (USA) with an order from the president of a national emergency. I talk to them about the derivative market crash, and the international banks and financiers that bought out our country. But what gets people looking into these truths the most is talking about the poisoning and tests on the American people. The chemical dumping in our water supply and food, the fact that the American government routinely conducts biological tests on its own citizens, all completely legal. The current build up of a heavy armed and military trained police force.
Look at it this way:
When you are teaching physics to 9th graders you do not jump into string theory(global government), you talk about things they are familiar with and identify with on a daily basis. Such as gravity and simple mechanics (chemically treated water, cameras everywhere, police with automatic rifles in full military type armor and training)
Hope this helps my fellow patriots who are trying to wake up and inform more people. We hang together or separately, but all will go to the gallows.
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The Canadian government has planned all along to repeal the UBB ruling. This is all a plan to give the people a political win.
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The title says the gist of it. The Canadian government has been getting a lot of bad press for quite a while now, and are starting to look like 'Bad Guys' to the Canadian people. They want to be shown in a good light and have orchestrated the UBB fiasco.
I have limits to how stupid I think our government is, I refuse to believe that they had not discussed and formed a stance on whether the CRTC ruling should be reversed. This has been on their radar politically for quite some time, and given that both the Liberals and NDP have already come out publicly against it. To release a statement that you need to study the issues before announcing a stance can only mean that the stance that they chose was 'to initially come out as needing to study the issue, and later decide that it must be reversed.'
So having decided the above, what would the Conservatives have to gain by doing so instead of being the first to come out against the ruling, or even second to come out opposed for that matter? I can think of two possibilities:
a) They hope to make this an election issue, and delaying the decision gives them an advantage; or
b) The people are given 'a win' in the public domain
I find it hard to believe that the Conservatives think that they will be able to gain an easy majority of people to side with their allowing this ruling to pass. There has been very little public press for the ruling, and quite a few against it, not to mention Reddit for the past month. It can't take them that long to decide whether they'd win in an election if one were to be called. I don't think that this is a likely option given the above. That leaves option b.
How does giving the people a 'delayed win' as opposed to an 'instant win' work more in the favour of the Conservatives? All of the possibilities I can think of quickly I believe are negligible, and the cons would be just as well or better to come out initially against the ruling. That leaves a single 'crazy' conclusion. Giving the people a win in this fashion makes us feel like we are in control of our government. It makes us believe that we too can have our 'Egypt moment' in a show of defiance to our rulers.
When we feel that we control the government, we are more complacent and more easily turn a blind eye to their other movements. They are more easily able to keep us under their control, and are able to demonstrate to themselves that the puppet strings are still firmly attached.
* All of this of course implies that the Conservative government is not crazy stupid, but instead crazy brilliant. Any of their public movements can be thought to be carefully planned, so what appears to be a misstep is instead only a single move in a more complicated dance.
* This also assumes that the Conservatives will eventually come out against the ruling.
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A friend believes her baby was stolen by a doctor and sold to another family
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Has anybody heard of this? I could find limited information about baby selling in the U.S.
Here are some details:
1. The mother was young, 17 at the time, nursed the baby and was not told there was a problem until a day later when she was informed the baby had died.
2. She was given heavy medication an hour before being informed of the death and asked to sign forms while under sedative medication.
3. She was given a birth certificate which later burned in a house fire. She was not granted a death certificate. She was not granted the body to hold a funeral. She was told that she was too young to see the body and it was best to keep it from her.
4. She owed around $5,000.00 for the doctors visits which were wiped out of the system.
5. This was in 1983. The baby was a Guyanese male. The birth took place in Queens, NY.
I have the name of the child, the parents' name, the doctor's name, the exact date of birth and the hospital name. I don't want to give out too many details because I want to protect my friends.
She believes that the doctor was young and had a lot of bills to pay fresh out of medical school and possibly stole her baby to sell to pay for the loan debt.
She has since ordered the birth certificate upon which she should be able to request a death certificate which she does not believe she will find.
I am split between the possibility of this being real and the possibility of a young mother being unable to cope with the loss of her first child and inventing a story that allows her to believe he is still alive, somewhere.
Thoughts? Have you heard of anything like this?
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Occult nature of money.
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Have you ever pondered the occult nature of our debt-based monetary system?
Our modern day monetary system is one in which all money is created as debt. Money comes into existence because someone signs for a loan (either at the commercial or governmental level).
This is in contrast to a commodity-money system (ie. gold/silver) in which real physical items (which weren't created by man) were used as tokens to facilitate trade.
Interestingly, modern debt-money was discovered at the same time the Alchemist were searching for the Philosophers Stone (eg. the magical substance which could create gold from base material). And in a sense, modern banking *is the actual discovery of the Philosophers Stone*. For now the practitioners of this system can conjure wealth from themselves from thin air.
But, this act of creation doesn't come "for free" as it requires putting someone else in debt (slavery) to accomplish it. Hence, the occult nature of modern money.
That $100 bill in your hand is itself a sort of spell. A talisman that represents that someone else is $100 in debt. The real occult power of this system is not from "having money" per se, but from the collective suffering and capture of souls that it represents.
The trillion dollars of debt-money in existence represents the collective enslavement of the vast majority of the planet. The elite are of course the "eye" at the top of the pyramid free from enslavement - whereas the rest of humanity makes up the pyramid, the representation of slave labor from which they gather their power.
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Question to r/conspiracy community regarding the very title of this sub-reddit ...
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I rarely post on Reddit for various reasons; mainly due to immature comments which are popular, and make me question the entire morality of this 'community'. But, getting to the point, here is my question: Does anyone feel that calling ones self a community, or sub-Reddit, related to conspiracy, and calling it 'conspiracy' weaken the position of your posts for a general audience?
Let me explain ... I am not talking about your point of view (those who are subscribed to this sub-reddit), I am talking about the point of view of those whom are not regularly posting on here ... in the main stream media ["sheeple", those whom should be a part of the target audience for 'awakening'], conspiracy theories are generally viewed as "fringe", "non-truths", "false, baseless claims", and what have you.
As I am typing this, there are various threads in this sub-reddit which catch my eye as they are spurring intellectual-type of conversations/points of view, specifically in respect to questioning commonly established powers, points of views, et. al. I feel these conversation are great to be having. But, when keeping in mind what other people (correctly or incorrectly) think of the term 'conspiracy', does associating ourselves with that term lessen the importance and/or depth of what we are trying to do here? I am not saying that we should change our title because of what others may or may not think; I am simply advocating that perhaps we should use language as a 'Tool' to our advantage as opposed to it being used against us as a dis-advantage. This is merely an idea; so to any "solution" ... well ... I am not a miracle worker, I just think ...
I would be curious to hear anyone's thoughts, if anyone reads this through the massive queue of new material being posted on here. No I WILL NOT: make various 'edit' posts to address insignificant inaccuracies with grammar or context. You are entirely missing the point of my effort in typing something which will probably never see the light of day, or audience, rather. Let's try evolving ideas here ... if language is being used to coax the populous into a very specific and rigid view of themselves, and concurrently, of their consciousness, why should we not do the same for our aims of 'awakening', 'enlightenment', or whatever the hell it is you are trying to do here - because I am not sure.
That was a long winded way to questioning why this sub-reddit is titled 'Conspiracy' and not something else. If you disagree, downvote and move on. I have a low tolerance for bullshit and am only sharing an idea. Enjoy your front page pictures of stupid images ... I will see you on the other side of the black hole that we call 'Earth'.
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Extremely powerful poem my friend wrote, thought you guys might like it...
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those of you among the broken
screaming silent, words unspoken
lifeless souls with no remorse
show me your hatred, show me the source
show me now what you can do
payback the debt, long overdue
this is what was meant to be
rise up now and come with me
rise up, come with me
i'll fight your fight, come and see
in my hand i hold the key
now's the time, time to be free
get up now, your time is near
what better place to be than here
start the bleeding, stop the tears
fuck their hatred, fuck your fear
this is what was meant to be
rise up now and come with me
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look at all of this corruption
its time, time for disruption
let us free them from their pains
let them loose, let's break the chains
we'll laugh and watch as their lives crash
we'll reduce their world to ash
this is what was meant to be
rise up now and come with me
rise up, come with me
i'll fight your fight, come and see
in my hand i hold the key
now's the time, time to be free
get up now, your time is near
what better place to be than here
start the bleeding, stop the tears
fuck their hatred, fuck your fear
this is what was meant to be
rise up now and come with me
those of you among the cursed
rise up now and quench your thirst
go and do as you would please
we'll have this world on its knees
it something that you all possess
something they cannot repress
this is what was meant to be
rise up now and come with me
rise up, come with me
i'll fight your fight, come and see
in my hand i hold the key
now's the time, time to be free
get up now, your time is near
what better place to be than here
start the bleeding, stop the tears
fuck their hatred, fuck your fear
this is what was meant to be
rise up now and come with me
rise up, rise up
rise up, rise up
rise up now and follow me
this is what was meant to be
start the bleeding, stop the tears
fuck their hatred, fuck your fear
get up now, it's time to rise
wake up now, open your eyes
set them loose and start the feeding
break their chains, start the bleeding
Edit: Sorry about the formatting, tried to make it look good
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An open letter of love and peace to Disinfo Agents.... I sent this to reddit user jcm267
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Any reasonable, balanced person can read your comment history and tell there is something up. How long do you intend to keep on doing what you do?
I understand you got to do what you got to do, and I forgive you.
Can't you sense the shift yet? Isn't it time to let go? Whatever human happens to read this, whoever is really behind that screen with a soul, can you please consider letting up? How long do you really think it will be before the truth rises to the top anyways?
A lie can only be supported by another lie; The Truth simply is. Imagine the beauty when Humanity finally comes back to the truth. You can give that back to them. We will forgive you, I promise.
I just want to thank you for what you do, because you have given those of us who are waking up to the truth meaning. You are giving us meaning in our life so it is very easy to forgive you! Honestly. If there is any kind of "revolution" it will be a human revolution of love and peace, and it will be peaceful! Just let go! Let it all go.... there might be a couple bumps in the road but we are so close to freeing all of humanity....
We are not all ignorant you know. Some of us have managed to become educated while growing up very poor. That is the amazing part of living in the year 2011! There is really no need for this anymore. We understand why things had to be hidden for a long time, we weren't educated enough to be ready. But its starting to change.... Please, just let go.
I love what you do, and I forgive you.
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"I have to wonder if it will even be possible to escape to a simpler place like you're hoping to do, but I will applaud you for trying and who knows, I may join you in that quest."
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A simpler place is about 75% of the world right now.
I was just speaking with someone for a while about how I was getting a very nasty feeling that the powers that be were going to need to do something very horrific to divert attention away from the topping point of the US market; peculiar major stock index behavior, silver price explosion and US treasuries being sold off massively now and its relation to quantitative easing. I had was directing my attention to San Francisco while she was saying that probably Los Angeles. We were both correct in a sense that there is a small coastal warning for the Pacific due to the tsunami that just occurred off of Japan. I came to the conclusion that nobody is powerful enough to claim responsibility for the failing economy (the plunder) and so a horrific event would need to be created to divert attention and resultant conclusion. The question was how and where. This nasty sensation has been brooding in me for a few days now to the point that my stomach was not digesting food properly. The time has not yet come for the US to be completely hollowed out of the substance that still remains of it. In the meantime the larger plunder will continue. This has been made more clear than ever to me now. I concluded that the great disaster caused by the nefarious and dark perpetrators of evil would arrive on my soil with the full intensity of its capabilities. In turns out that it will only be a warning, a dangerous surf that will be largely ignored. That desperate hour of panic that will jolt the masses from slumber will simply not arrive since the purpose is to steal as much money as possible. Immediate and definable pain is of no use to these conspirators. So now that upon two separate occasions today I have expressed intense panic and notice that we are at a major infection point in which horrific and extreme actions would need to be taken by the controlling Rothschild powers we have arrived at the following resultant effect. World War 3 has started. There will be war in conventional means but long before that there will be earthquakes, hurricanes and solar storms. It will seem as though the spirit of the earth and of the heavens alike have both damned the people to prophecy. The public front of governments around the world
will be quite for fear of weakness. Then it will emerge as a threatened dictator or super power issues the historic statement that they are the target of a super advanced form of warfare. This announcement will be delayed for some time as the advisors determine
the digestibility of the sound bytes throughout the world that will certainly be met with ridicule by many. Now specifically I have been reading reports here and there that Japan has been threatened with a massive earthquake if they do not comply with US demands. Apparently Japan is particularly culturally susceptible to this form of warfare. In regards to the US plunder what this means is that the Japanese Yen is not going to be a safe haven for the short term as the US dollar is massively deteriorating. This is also why the price of oil is going through the roof. With the price of oil higher it will create more demand for dollars since they are needed to purchase oil.
[edit] The USD/Yen has dropped 1.43% today. As I understand it Japan has just sold US debt and has bought Yen with it in order to raise emergency capital. In other news military intervention in Libyan will be less of an item.
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The greatest conspiracy ever pulled...
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My fellow truth seekers,
who I am is unimportant, what is important is the idea that I leave you with. All I ask is that you keep a fairly open mind, and come to a rational decision on your own.
I have studied many conspiracy theories and the evidence (or lack thereof) surrounding them, and it got me thinking. Many of you live your lives in fear. Fear of Niburu, fear of aliens, fear of a New World Order. You don't trust your government or the powers that be. Have you ever stopped and considered, that by subscribing to the theory that the government does not have your best interest, you are actually living your lives in fear of them? Some conspiracy theories just seem to make too much sense. The banks are going to come together and form a New World Order. I think with anon's recent declaration of war on the owners of the federal reserve, we can safely rule out that those plans have either been foiled or never existed at all.
Would you dare to rise up and oppose a government if you thought shadowy reptilian aliens who feed off human flesh are pulling all the strings?
In nearly every alien encounter, some government official comes in and says "Shut the fuck up or we'll kill you." Have you ever once considered that that may be because they themselves are scared because they have no fucking clue what is going on? Often times anger and intimidation will serve as a mask for lack of knowledge.
I do believe 9/11 was an inside job. that seems to be about the only conspiracy theory that holds any water. The rest seem to me like they serve to let some of our most brilliant minds invent new and wild ways that the government is deceiving us or is planning to control us, thus making the government look far more powerful than it really is.
The current system of government is not only corrupt, but incompetent. They are only human and only appear to know more than they let on, when in reality, they do not know the truth anymore than you, dear reader.
Perception is reality. If you perceive that your government knows all the secrets, you are far more likely to follow the letter of the law than if you knew of their true ignorance.
A New World Order is coming. It will not come secretly, as the general public will all but demand it. Things have been set in motion that can not be undone. Take with this what you will, but you are focusing your time and energies to the wrong area, and that is the greatest conspiracy ever pulled.
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West coast rain is dumping the Japanese meltdown radioactive byproducts onto California as specifically measured with high accuracy radioactive meters in Berkeley .
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UC Berkeley Nuclear Engineering Air Monitoring Station
Rain Water Results
Results Log
3/20 (4:15pm): Rain water results show trace levels of radioactive iodine (I131,I132), cesium (Cs134, Cs137), and tellurium (Te132). The amounts show that the activity we are observing originated from one of the three operating reactors that was shut down since I-131 and Te132 half-lives are less than 10 days and the spent fuel from unit 4 has been not operating for > 130 days. The calculated exposure to the public is so low that the consuming of ~500 liters of this water would only increase dose by the same amount received by taking a cross-country airplane flight.
3/19 (8:37 pm) Initial analysis of first rain water sample has been completed. Peer review of concentration amounts and radioactivity is in progress. We expect to post results of multiple samples tomorrow. We apologize for the delay.
3/19 (10:34am): Rain fall from 3/17-2pm to 3/18-12:15pm. Preliminary results show trace amounts of radioactive iodine (I131, I132), cesium (Cs137, Cs134), and tellurium (Te132) which are not naturally occurring elements and are assumed to originate from the Fukushima nuclear site. In context, we also see Be-7 (cosmogenically produced) and Pb-212 (radon daughter) which are naturally occurring isotopes that also show up normally in rain water. Preliminary analysis show levels remain well below that which would cause health effects. We are currently awaiting better calibration of our detector system to publish amounts.
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Adrift In A New World Order - A poem I wrote in Nov, 2002. Hope /r/conspiracy enjoys it...still seems pretty relevant.
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we're all born from sin and we're born to die
but if you ask them why, they'll only tell us lies.
keep us in the dark while they steal the light
they'll take away our day to leave us only night.
they'll take away the rug and take away the floor
and when we stand no more, they're throw us out the door.
in the game they play, there isn't time to blink
there isn't time to love, there isn't time to think.
it's a ruthless life, all this take and take
we'd better keep on running if we want some cake.
but if we climb on up, we'll only get knocked down
and if we try to swim, then we're doomed to drown.
and as the fear grows stronger, and the hour grows longer
the sun gets louder and they build their power
the drums are banging and the war is looming
in this millenium of all this doom and glooming.
our blood is boiling and the stakes is high
and when the toll is payed, it will bleed us dry.
the walls will crumble and the earth will shake
the time has come, can it be too late?
the earth, she's burning, and the stars they cry
the sea is boiling and the trees, they die.
if we don't act now then we will watch it all
we have seen the cliff, and still we run to fall.
the bell has sounded and the race is run
but who will win it all when it's said and done?
it's time to rise, it's time to come together
time to turn the sun on this stormy weather.
it is in ourselves, each and everyone
i can look inside and see the evil one
i see it in my culture, i see it in my climate.
it is in my food and it is in my diet.
come on people, will we watch them plunder?
or will we scream and stomp and will we stir up thunder?
we can live our lives and we can live in peace
we can have our freedom, we can all succeed.
if i try to change, and i can make a change
then that'll be okay, because with every day
that i learn something new, i can see it through
and i can take that lesson, pass it onto you.
and if we all can be what we need to be
we'll have a better world, lived in unity.
we'll have love and music, sung in harmony
and that's the way we know it's meant to be.
radiofreebc - 2002
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A poem I wrote for you r/conspiracy.
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Look at suburbia and where it has brought us
Farther away from the hearts of our city its got us
No more culture or neighbourhood friends,
Just disassociation, and unimaginable trends,
oil aint cheap, and it’s just rising again,
What kinda food ya think youll get at the grocery store then?
No alternative and we’re fucked again
but it’s all okay, according to Fox, and CNN
We’re the lost generation, no jobs, no wealth, no nation,
What are we supposed to do when there is inflation?
And our jobs are gone due to automation
We produce nothing except aggravation
We’ve been in Iraq longer than we were in World War 2
If you watched the news you probably wouldn’t have a clue
that we were running ops in yemen and libya too
A no fly zone is an act of war, but this is nothing new
Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Bahrain, Algeria, Jordan, Iraq, Sudan, all are in some process of revolution,
But I look around my own country and see vapid dissolution
We need to wake up, because our votes are an illusion.
we need to stand together and show the world that we can be free,
Because when government stands for us we will cease to be,
When they said a government they meant for you and me,
so fuck the neo-cons, barack obama, and hillary
To me it’s all a joke, and the scripts were written,
Every moment we watch the bill of rights unwritten
Elimination of habeas corpus, and freedom of religion,
No freedom of speech and no one to listen
Fight till I die or give up livin’
thats the end of that spit
Just try and stay driven.
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Japan meltdown update Wed. Mar 23: black smoke rising, all reactor workers now evacuated, 11 Japan foods now radioactive and banned in USA, Tokyo now radiative water now deemed unsafe for infants.
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There has been an amazing and absolute lack of updates on the rapidly worsening situation at the Japanese Reactors on reddit so I made one myself.
Japan meltdown update Wed. Mar 23: new black smoke rising from reactor 3, this has caused the company to evacuate all reactor workers leaving Japanese officials saying they can do nothing becuase they have no one inside the plant. The black color of the smoke is especially worrying and what caused the new complete evacuation. (white smoke means steam but black smoke means something is probably burning and it is much more likely that something is nuclear fuel or something which can carry nuclear fuels radioactive particals into the atmosphere
11 Japan agricultural food products are now radioactive and they are now banned for import into the USA. Hong Kong is also considering banning Japanese food exports. Milk was the only one specifically mentioned of the 11 foods. This means the radioactivity onthe ground in Japan has hit the ground and therefore contaminated large part sof land. This means that the radioactivity was higher in previous releases than everyone was told. (no surprise there)
Tokyo central water supply is now radiative with Iodine 131 from the reactor in concentrations 2 times higher than safe for infants. Citizens are officially told by the Japanese government not to use it for infants. (The allowable amounts for adults is higher but that doesn't mean it is safe for adults. It just means it takes longer to cause what the government believes is acceptable damage to your larger older body but it still is harmful. governments make judgments about how ok it is for something to have a chance to kill you. It's likely your own beliefs about what is ok are more strict than the governments.)
Not mentioned is the obvious fact that if the company has evacuated employees from the plant its more likely the new releases form the plant are much worse than previous releases and this has implications for the USA where these releases will eventually end up.
Multiple news reports such as Al Jazeera are the sources of these updates.
(I have to say it but Fox news was extensively talking about Elizabeth Taylor's birthday parties at Disneyland so they were not a source. CNN did mention the tokyo water and black smoke but were cheerleading happy thoughts about the lights being turned on -irrelevant to the problem becuase no mention if pumps are working and no mention that likely the core is so damaged that pumps can no longer properly circulate water around the now likely heat deformed nuclear material to effectively cool it- and no mention of the plant workers being evacuated.)
It's clear that over the past few days all stories on reddit about the emerging worsening nuclear crisis are being aggressively voted down in numbers not seen since the downvotes concerning the helath insurance industry debate. We can no longer go to reddit to see the updates.
Therefore I respectfully remind redditors that if you want factual stories to survive the relentless corporate lobbyist burying efforts extensively documented during that the previous health debate you MUST upvote informative stories to counter them.
Those who want to debate whether or not corproate lobbyist are active on reddit please do it in another thread and I remind you to reference previous post facto documentation of that problem and not say "do you have proof" Proof was found before and I won't bury facts people need to know NOW to wait for proofs about corporate lobbying on reddit which was proved before. Its a lobbyist trick to change the subject to that debate to divert attention for the facts of the relevant discussion. If someone does it note their reddit name and look at their submission history - they are likely a planted industry lobbyist or PR "social networks image manager".
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Japan meltdown future implications: Anyone who paid attention and knew about the natural progression of a nuclear meltdown knew the problem was unstoppable from day one when backup cooling malfunctioned and the heating began to rise over core and fuel rod structural integrity temperatures.
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Japan meltdown future implications: Anyone who paid attention and knew about the natural progression of a nuclear meltdown knew the problem was unstoppable from day one when backup cooling malfunctioned and the heating began to rise over core and fuel rod structural integrity temperatures.
The next step will be large harmful radiation releases spread around the world over a long period of time until the encapsulation can be accomplished.
The only question left is what will be the level of harm. Will only one child die from induced thyroid cancer somewhere in the world or will millions die or have their lives significantly shortened from released radiation particles of even worse nature like cesium and even plutonium and radioactive food issues over the next hundred years? and how much land will be permanently lost and how much sea water will be permanently contaminated and spread through sea life and currents?
The level of harm - and it is already at harmful levels as far as Pennsylvania in the rainwater- will be determined by the level of release accumulation over the months while the plants remain unencapsulated. It took them about 80 days in Chernobyl.
This is simply a fact.
It is non debatable and no cleverly phrased public statement that it hasn't happened yet ("no harm yet" - radiation takes time to kill) as if that means it will not happen will change the fact that it will happen.
It was a certainty the day we learned the backup cooling had failed.
It is as certain as the accumulating mass of an avalanche once started from the top of a mountain.
It is unstoppable.
PS. They will continue to phrase public "don't panic" statements in ways that deny the long term truth such as "no one harmed yet"(ignoring they will have been harmed in 10 years from this release) no one died yet" (it takes radiation time once the particles are inside you) , "the release not harmful "(ignoring that the release is not a one time event but ongoing every day and not yet stopped.)
You will never see the public statement release you need to see "no FUTURE harm will be caused be the Japanese nuclear event" unless of course they just start outright lying instead of just manipulating the truth.
PPS.
Only the luck of geography and eastern blowing winds will help Japan.
However,when a disaster at the western coast edge nuclear plants in the United States like San Onofre and El Diablo have a meltdown from the larger than expected earthquake or other problem statistically guaranteed to happen SOMETIME, that geography and eastern blowing wind will ensure the maximum harm to the United States. The two nuclear plants San Onofre and El Diablo built on earthquake faults at the far western edge of the continental United States are the greatest single and most likely to occur devastatingly destructive force risk for as long as they contain any nuclear material. It is like placing a sword over your head with thread known to rot in a short period of time.
Even if you like nuclear power those two nuke plants are complete and utter suicidal insanity.
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The "Powers That Be" want depopulation? I agree.
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If I'm one to go, so be it.
Why are most people so apathetic?
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Its getting bad. There exists people who spend most or all of their time indulging in all the sickness of this society, willfully ignorant of all the suffering they cause. Ignorant to the betrayers they place in power to protect them, cold to those who would open their eyes.
“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” -Krishnamurti
Most parts of this culture attempt to glorify all those that our vaunted holy texts proclaim as evil. How hard is it to find something that makes light of causing another pain or makes violence seem exciting? Is it difficult to find a company that chooses profits over safety and the well-being of those it employs? Care to point out someone in power who exploits his position for personal gain? Can you think of an example of avarice, greed, or pure fucking tragedy?
From Libya to Tunisia to Egypt, and the larger part of Africa to Palestine, up through Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, south to Yemen, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, east through Afghanistan and into Pakistan, we have War. Not to mention all the other places I not getting off the top of my head. Call it what you will... "occupation", "peace actions", "internal conflict", it all looks the same when its your house thats in rubble, and your son in a box. So many people totally fucked before they ever had a chance to do it to themselves, so many wrongs by any stretch of the definition just piling up and all everyone is doing is seeing who can look away or forget it the fastest.
Solutions? We have them. We have resources. What we don't have is any desire to do anything about it. Its way easier to just catch another TV show, play another game, crush another beer. We are all so tired from our long hours at our stressful jobs, and our disappointing and unfulfillable personal relationships; or maybe we are one of the lucky to be able to be satisfied with just making sure that our own are cared for. No one else ever did shit for me so why should I do anything for them? Who knows, you might even be able to come up with a reason that justifies these averted eyes.
It makes me wish for the "end of days".
No, I should take an eighty thousand dollar loan to go to a "decent" college to study advanced mathematical concepts so I can live that dream of discovering a cheap clean energy source that will bring warmth to all the cold little feet on earth. But what actually happens is I can't afford to fucking eat, so I take that degree and go work for some massive defense firm manufacturing new ways to depopulate the poor. Meanwhile the CEO of my company is touring the earth in his 80 foot yacht with an entourage of young girls, likely purchased from the same poor people he is blowing up. Then I'm told that this is "Successful" and that this is what I should aspire to be. So i tell my congressman that hey maybe this kind of thing shouldn't go on, but he feeds me some form letter about how he values all the donations of his constituents, but he can't talk right now because he's touring the Bahamas on some other asshole's boat.
I call up my friends, we meet at a bar. "Sup guys... man, did you hear about-" Interrupted by "HERP MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL DERP!" "Derp, Charlie Sheen Herp". "No man, fuck those people, we should just turn it into a glass desert". "It don't matter they ain't Christian".
Anyone else looking around and feeling a bit disgusted? As if suddenly the whole thing looks like some kind of ridiculous farce designed to beat the best out of all of us?
(reposted from something i submitted earlier on GLP today.)
Just felt i had to get that off my chest.
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A query about Intellectual Property as it relates to the hivemind.
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I notice there is a strong sense of righteousness on reddit with reference to Intellectual Property as it relates to "stuff" found on the web (cartoons, photos, etc.).
I'm wondering how the hivemind feels about other types of IP. Specifically, I know a guy who knows a guy who (yeah... one of those kind of things)... Anyway...
I know of this guy (we'll call him "John"). John was an admin on this spiffy game (run by a guy named "Herp") and he created lots of cool stuff for the game. Then, John started a huge undertaking (everyone thought he was crazy for even trying).
Once he drafted up the manifest for his goal (which took like 3 years of research and observation and other hobbyist related inputs), some other guy (we'll call "Derp") showed up on the scene near the end of the manifest/documentation and the beginning of the coding process (i.e., before any actual code had been written).
Derp was a talented programmer and worked his way into being an admin on this game in short order. Then, a few weeks later, landed a job with a big computer company. Then, just another few short weeks later, Derp approached John... in the presence of Herp (the head administrator) and told John:
"Hey man, guess what... I pitched your "cool idea" to my employer and they approved it as a major company project. I get to travel out of the country now to work with some other developers developing your cool idea for this company. We're planning to use your idea and your logo as a foundation, but we're not going to use any of your code (NOTE: As I mentioned, there really was no code to speak of at this time.) And, um... I was hoping you'd say it's okay."
According to John, he never granted any permission whatsoever, verified that a few other people got to see logs of the discussion, and moved on with his life (continuing his work).
Later, much to John's chagrin, the company did, indeed, follow through developing said project and released it to the public (so far, it appears to be free, but it's kind of veiled in obscurity so there's really no telling) -- without so much as even a byline credit to John for his original idea.
When John confronted Herp (hey, it happened on his game, and he never intervened), Herp downplayed the significance and said "yeah yeah,... like anyone's going to believe that MegaCorp's BigFloppyProject is based on your trivial gaming idea. pfft."
Meanwhile, John has struggled with other burdens of life, but... did finally finish his project. He even did an AMA about it, but it wasn't very well received... mostly because I don't think many people can comprehend it (it's pretty huge - mind-boggling, if I must say so myself).
What I'm wondering is:
Is this something the reddit hive would champion (ala copyrights and other IP issues the way they do webcomics and such)? Or did John really just waste 15 years of his life as a hobbyist?
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Do we have anyone who considers themselves a 'grounded' but knowledgable conspiracy theorist? I have some question.
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Yes, I have some question. s.
I see a lot of videos and read a lot of articles or first person accounts from people who claim to have escaped the clutches of the shadow government, or the satanist kabal of the catholic church that seem to end in either a plug for a Hip Hop website, or a with a lot of ultra-Christ worship. I find these ties in UFO videos, FEMA camp websites, etc.
What gives?
Unfortunately, the African American community is still very much at odds with white America, let's face that. My point being that there are definite divides in culture even though we share so much common time and ground with each other. I guess the same can be said for the Church, especially mega-Churches or sects who share beliefs.
- So do these groups exploit their own people to profit by fostering or creating these conspiracies, or do the conspiracies exist and they are cashing in on them while they can?
- What is with the either born-againism, or just puppy-love style worship of Jesus by some of these people who claim to have escaped? (Svali) From a psychological point of view, could it just be a desperate attempt to be closer to the opposite of what she was raised around, if it happened?
I'll share my quick views on a few conspiracies:
- Shadow government exists. It's called a power structure and it fucking sucks for the majority. Life on planet Earth for the human has not changed much in thousands of years. In the distant past, our leaders were no more educated than the masses, just more publicly ruthless. How things have changed... I think the money game has been perfected, I think the system of slave consumerism and Rhodesian political farce is alive and well in this country, and I think we're only going to transfer from it into a new system of near forced buying, where we have fewer and fewer options if we want to be what we're sold is 'True America.'
- UFO's, aliens. They're out there. It's just stupid (I love that word, it really means a hell of a lot when said with the right inflection) to assume we are alone. Amateur astronomers can see distant, distant shit. Though I think the possibility of them visiting us is slim, I do not rule it out. I would have to assume someone I admire, Carl Sagan, lied to us all by withholding evidence of life out there, and he is someone who would know. I think it's more likely that we have life forms that are earth bound and native that we may just be discovering for the first time, or are just now making their presence known. The earth is is still very much unexplored and the oceans could be home to things that blow our entire view of aliens away.
- The coelacanth was probably just hidden from white people because it's delicious.
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Conspiracy Theorist's guide. We need one.
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We need something that outlines the major things that conspiracy theorists/independent investigative students need to know.
* How to think critically.
* How to admit you're wrong, or that you don't know, and be okay with it.
* How to explain things to others in a way that doesn't make you sound like a loon.
* How to deal with trolls/shills/lunatics, etc.
* How to help people who are very gullible and latch onto any conspiracy thrown out to them without supporting proof.
* A guide to the major conspiracy theorists and worldviews in our community.
* How to not get overwhelmed by paranoia or information overload.
* How to collect, collate/organize, and present data/information.
* How to debate respectfully - nothing makes you lose credibility like getting emotional.
* How to actually DO something beyond just talking about how bad things are.
* etc. etc.
What resources are available that have this kind of information? How can we improve it, make it easier to get into/disseminate. What other things should it contain?
edit: I realize now that the arrangement of those points make it sounds like I think conspiracy theorists are mistaken or idiots. This is NOT the case. This would be something to help sort out all the crap from what's true. This is for education and increasing awareness, not dumbing down or distracting. By no means would this have to be the authoritative guide! But it would be one resource to provide ways of dealing with all of the open loops.
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With all this about Osama, went back to look at 9/11 conspiracies...I need some convincing.
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I saw ZeitGeist when I was a sophomore or junior in highschool, and as a naive teenager, I believed it all. Well I decided to look back at it, and I'm not sure I believe a lot of the theories behind it.
**The Passport:** Could it not have been planted by Osama? To make sure that we knew it was his work?
**The thermite:** I haven't seen enough proof that it was in fact thermite. But, for the sake of the argument, let's say it was thermite that was found at the foundation. Again, why do the conspiracies say that the government put the thermite there, and not Osama? Also, couldn't the thermite have been used after the fact as a way to cut the steel during the cleanup process?
**The Pennsylvania plane Crash:** Yes, I've seen the pictures of other plane crashes and the amount of debris in comparison. But, in most plane crashes the circumstances are very different. The plane has failed in some way, such as loss of fuel, and has to make an emergency, controlled, crash landing. Obviously this doesn't always work out when they are not landing on a runway, and the plane crashes and much debris left behind. In the situation of the hijacked plane, the pilot went full throttle, straight into the ground, with an almost full tank of fuel. This is not a plane trying to land, slowing down as it does so, this is a plane heading straight for the ground, trying to crash.
**The whole Pentagon bombing:** I have seen pictures of debris that shows many different parts of a plane and columns all bent in the same direction the plane hit (something not easily controlled by an explosion)
Please, convince me.
If I think of anything else, I will add it in a bold edit.
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There are currently 33.340 subscribers on r/conspiracy, if enough unite we can easily get important information on to the front page.
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Should there not be some attempt to organize and even strategize about how to best use this platform to alert people about the serious issues being discussed in this subreddit.
If we focus our efforts on a few well thought out entries we can make a serious impact. Considering how many people now are aware of how much we have been lied too, and how obviously it can be demonstrated to a rationally operating mind, why is it so hard to reach critical mass? What are we doing wrong or aren´t er doing right?
The truth is on our side, we know that. How can we create the hype necessary on some of the most urgent topics?
I think what probably most of realize is that these issues are of such significance that we can´t expect everyone to agree on everything. About an 80% frequency of shared understanding on these issues should be enough too unite for a common goal and just settle the last 20% later. In this respect, the "right/left" debate is completely irrelevant. So is division over preset ideologies and details. Let´s get the power back to the people. Than we can start discussing the future.
On a sidenote, if critical mass can be achieved, I think our best option would be to as publicly as possible, demand open negotiation between those that we have recognized as major players in these conspiracies and consensus based representatives of the people.
What really needs to end is the age old war of the elites and the commoners. I´m not sure a bloody and gruesome final showdown is the best way to go about it. They may not have a lot of compassion, but they seem to have good logic, and if we could demonstrate that they were being thoroughly exposed by a majority of the population, they would surely be looking for a peaceful way out.
In my view it is critical that we give such an opportunity, instead of demanding their deaths, and thus ensuring that they must fight us to the last breath of their existence with any tactics necessary.
Any thoughts on how this can be accomplished?
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There is a war of suppression in the alternative news/
conspiracy sector and users are the victims.
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Alt News & Conspiracy has splintered into a handful of monopolies. I will not call out these few sites by name but most of us know who they are. The information on their sites is so TIGHTLY controlled, you have to wonder why or who is behind this. The memberships have been digitally lobotomized into maintaining a specific course of discussion that will prevent them from being banned. They live in digital fear, often deciding not to click "Submit" on a post for fear of getting banned (I've been there). One conspiracy forum instabans any member on their forum who posts legitimate alt news from our site and many other sites. They actually have keyword scripts and if you use a keyword or url they do not like then the material is auto deleted, your account and ip address are auto banned with zero explanation or concern for you as a member. Yet they continue to maintain massive user traffic. I suspect it is unknown to most as anyone who breathes a word about suppression gets instabanned. Many of these conspiracy forums also have teams of ban hammer wielding attack dog god complexed moderators. Yet the members keep coming back for more, "thank you sir may I have another". They often cower like scolded dogs. It is bizarre. People are seeking knowledge and truth in a tightly controlled environment with set agendas? Our org will keep fighting for zero tolerance of suppression in the world of conspiracy. I am not asking anyone to join us, only to think about where you participate and if they are steering the discussions in any way shape or form, then you can do better. Good luck to us all.
p.s. it's now 2am here so off to sleep. Hope to have some discussion about this with others tomorrow. cya
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The commerce control system
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The Sovereign Military Order of Malta control all finance & banking and they're known as 'the greatest merchants on Earth'. All commerce along with yourself is controlled by the Universal Postal Union in Berne, Switzerland for The Crown controlling the likes of the Worshipful Company of International Bankers along with the Guild of International Bankers all controlled by the Knights of Malta. This is the Oleron system of Code and Rule over the populace removing your rights as a sovereign being of God born on the land who's blood flows and flesh lives. They've trapped you within a system known as the Uniform Commercial Code based on Vatican Canon Law. You're simply a Maritime Admiralty product due to being born of your mother's water from her birth canal. International Banking was created by the Vatican's Knights Templars known as The Crown today which was taken over in the 14th Century by the Knights of Malta now commanded by Grandmaster, Matthew Festing who's also a Cardinal in the College of Cardinals. You'll find that both the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem along with Opus Dei are active in the financial World. The Sepulchre are the masters of the Knights of Malta and the leading Crusading order today other than the revived Spanish Templars ruling the roost known as the Knights of the Virgin Mary IHS.
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This is how I feel lately.
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Why?
Why have we succumbed to this? Why what’s going on in the present moment acceptable? Why haven’t we cried out for help? Why did those who tried to free the truth before us fail?
Who?
Who is to blame? Do we blame ourselves? Or do we blame those who came into this world before us, those who imposed their rules and laws, morals and ways upon us?
With all the things we have observed we must surely understand that something is inherently wrong. Something that resonates throughout the humanity, something that makes us ask all these questions.
How?
How in the world have we come to this? How come our screams go unheard? For how long has the truth been extinguished?
Surely something must be done. Surely there must be a way. Otherwise we are all in danger of fading away into the brisk unconsciousness.
This cry is nothing more than but a cry for human consciousness, for one can only marvel at the perfection of the game that has been made upon us.
Nevertheless,
Can we distill our failures into the same waters we risk to sink in? Can we save ourselves? Can we endure the rule of queens and kings of old for too long?
Risk,
There is nothing to risk or to abide by, there is nothing outside ourselves that can come to our help.
All I want to do is
Scream: “Who the fuck told you that this is the way life should be? Where the hell did you find your truth, that can’t even stand on its own feet? Why did you not do anything different? How did you expect different results from the repetition of the mistakes of the past? What is it that you seek?”
And why are all these things, the answers crystal clear?
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The Holocaust never happened.
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I can tell that the vast majority of you have done no reading on the subject of the holocaust because you keep bringing up lies. Hitler found out about the jews plan for world domination so he absolutely had to be discredited so the jews took the number 6 million which was the number of Germans that he put back to work and they claimed that this is how many died in internment camps. These camps were not concentration camps, they were internment camps. You don't take thousands of dissenters and put them in camps for months and months if you plan on killing them anyway. It's not economically smart to do that. It was mathematically impossible for 6 million jews to have been cremated in the time period allotted anyway. For that many jews to have been cremated, the Germans would have needed 140 ovens in every camp working 24/7 around the clock for years and years to have cremated that many. There were only 39 ovens in one camp and the rest did not have even that many. What did happen was that louse broke out in some of the camps and some jews died but it wasn't at the hands of the Nazis. It was an accident. They died of disease. What kind of conspiracy forum is this anyway? ARen't you guys supposed to be reading and doing research on this stuff? I can't believe how many idiots are on this forum.
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A discussion about what is going on in the world
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I have some ideas as to what is going on in the world today, and I am curious as to what you all think. It might be "obvious" to many of you, however I have not frequented conspiracy sites or forums, nor do I have any family or friends who like to discuss things like this. I however, would like to.
First of all, the two major ground-wars Iraq and Afghanistan lead me to believe they are more like a game of Risk, and against the largest threat in the middle east, Iran. If you draw a line from Iraq to Afghanistan it goes directly through Iran, and to the north of course if the oil rich Caspian Sea.
Ever since the end of the Cold War, the United States has been able to act freely about the world, moving its military and bases wherever she pleases. I suppose this is the right of the USA by having won the cold war, it just hasn't bothered to slow down on its strategic advances.
How is it that we are now plunged into fighting in Pakistan, Yemen and Libya? Soon we may end up fighting in Syria, among other places. Does the west really need to become involved in everything, or is there a larger game at play here?
We can say it's all about the oil, to some degree I would agree with this, however it must be more than that. Why did we go into Iraq in the first place? What was the point of removing Saddam, a man who we've funded quite richly over the years.
Is the CIA behind this "arab spring"? Something is afoot here, and I would dub it World War 3, and it's happening without our consent; except this time it would appear that we, are the aggressor.
I believe it is possible that 9/11 was a false-flag attack or something that the US "let happen" to gain support for these wars. In hindsight we were all enraged by the twin towers falling; however we now know that we should have never set foot in the middle east as it has been so very costly.
All of this with the economic collapse looming... I ask you, what the hell is going on?
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Anthony Weiner's Resignation: A Forced Destruction of Undesired Political Views
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In today's political spectrum lying is not only tolerated but expected. When officials lie about war, about legislation, when they skew data and quotations to achieve ulterior motives, they are often left alone. False information which can cause great suffering is allowed as long as profits are to show. We will tolerate a war based on lies because our government can make money in the process. It is sickening but cannot be ignored.
When a senator comes along with views and morals which tend to fight this established tradition of using the world and its people to gain money and power the line is drawn. A man who does not succumb to the temptation of lobbying and the lying for profit at the expense of their constituents can't make any wrong moves. When you are that type of man, your actions are not overlooked.
So today, as we see Anthony Weiner resign, it becomes painfully obvious what the consequences of fighting those in power are. A lewd photo, one which breaks no laws and only gently bends moral barriers, can cause a man to be pressured into submission. When a congressman tries to fix the corruption that creates profits for our government, he is eliminated. Today Anthony Weiner lost any chance he had to fix the destruction that he was trying to prevent.
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You want to do something to actually change things.
"pajoly" knows here is what he has to say
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This came form the user "pajoly" on above top secret.
"We all struggle with this topic. We are all disgusted with the status quo. Almost all will agree, no matter your political stripe, that our federal government has over stepped too many of it Constitutional boundaries. We ALL know that the big banks have fleeced us with the full complicity of the government. We ALL know corporations run the show.
Now ranting and wishing aside, let's also acknowledge that almost none of us are going to take up arms, at least not any time soon. The vast majority (over 99.9%) will not choose violence, unless you or your family is in imminent anger. Some of you might be inclined and even take part in the political process (personally, I think the process is useless as it stands to foster any real positive result). So what can anyone really do? Here are few tangible things you can do STARTING TODAY that, if done with even a small percent of the population, can have significant results.
How does it work? Because it applies pressure, monetary pressure. This is the U.S., like it or not only money talks and only money rules, so you must make the big banks and corporations feel extreme monetary pain. So here is my top ten things you can do starting today to begin your own personal American Revolution.
1. Remove ALL your money from the big banks like Chase, Bank of America, etc. Put all your money into your local credit union as the first choice, a small local bank as a second choice. The big banks make mega billions by collecting fees from all us dolts. Credit unions are member-owned coops who must put all profits back into the service. Take the fees and interest away from the faceless mega banks. It is not hard. I did it in a few days back in 2009.
2. Stop using ATMs, stop using creidt cards. Again, it is all about taking away the interest and fees from the banks. Money is power; remove the money, you remove the power. If you say you need your credit cards to get by, that's the surest proof you should do all you can to get rid of them because it means you are spending more than you make, making you an economic slave (even more than we are). The Fed gives our money to the banks at near no interest; those same banks essentially loan OUR money back to us at even 25% interest (credit cards). It is a sick scam.
3. Stop buying ANYTHING that is discretionary. EVERYTHING, unless you absolutely NEED it. Do you really need another pair of shoes? Probably not. If you do, check out the local thrift store. If you MUST really need a new pair, ONLY...EVER...buy a pair made in the USA, even if it cost 30% more. If you must buy anything, make sure you are penalizing offshore work and putting money into a USA person's wages. This is hard for some, we've grown so accustomed to impulse buying that $19 dollar shirt or $12 pair of shorts at Target or Wal-Mart. But those are made in China or Indonesia or etc.. Reject those goods. Be clear, this is NOT about nationalism -- it is about saving the American job. I'm a veteran, when the bullets fly, squads are not fighting for their country, they are fighting for their buddy next to them. Fight for your neighbor's job. If you think this is hard, then try this, pick one day of the week, every week, where you buy NOTHING. Just make it a game. You WILL save money and you'll stop feeding the beast.
4. Try to cancel some of your mobile phone service or even all. The big telecom companies are among the most aggregious violators of your privacy, though you may not know it. Not so many years ago we did not have these gadgets and lived quite well without them. If you need one for work, so be it. But does your 12 year old son or daughter really need it or are you just caving to peer pressure. If you are caving, then you are part of the consumerist problem, teaching your kids subliminally that their self-worth is tied up in their ability to match their peers' material things.
5. Stop flying the not so friendly skies unless you must for work or some emergency. Aside from not feeding the Machine of Corporatism, the nice side benefit is you don't have to interact so much with the TSA. You are cattle to an airline. You are a potential terrorist to the TSA (your government). Airlines will think nothing of holding you, without food or even water, for hours on the tarmac. Demand your dignity and demand service; don't reward them with your money.
6. Stop tithing or donating to your church if it is engaged in ANY political activism. I know many won't agree, but I believe a key problem in the U.S. is the politization of our worship. When politics combine with religion, all reason and rationality go out the door because the two are mutually exclusive. Religion is personal and spiritual. It is BY DEFINITION based on FAITH, whereas politics, the Constitution and civic issues belong in the realm of facts.
7. The next time you see someone on the side of the road with a flat, or a woman struggling to open a door, etc. then stop to HELP. Helping others, even in small ways is good for you, more for you than them. It also allows us to connect with each other just a little. This can help slowly to stop seeing enemies all around us, so we can focus on the real enemy -- the giant companies.
8. If you can, buy your produce from the local farmer's market. You will get healthier food and it puts money back in your local economy. Chances those grapes you just bought came from Chile. I happen to like Chile, but I'd rather buy things locally. That means we will go without things that are not in season, but so what, so did our parents or grandparents. For you greenies, it also is a big way to reduce your carbon footprint since it takes a lot of power to bring that Chilean grape from the slopes of the southern Andes to your mouth.
9. Pay attention to the political donations of the major companies from whom you buy from or whose products you use. If you find they are too deep in to politics (you be the judge), tell the local manager you are going to slow down or discontinue your patronage. I don't care what party they support; donations from big business are a pox on our nation and the root of nearly all graft and favor granting.
10. Share these simple, doable, American-friendly steps with your family, friends and neighbors. Teach others that in America, real activism begins with the wallet and once the pain is felt, then you make clear your demands to those who seek or hold office.
If just 10% of America did these simple steps, we'd have a much different country in just a few short years, maybe even months as corporate titans are knocked, or at least wobbled, to their knees.
I'd love to see others add to the list. Just make it sensible and real please. "
Thanks for the good advice pajoly.
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Reddit Politics: Nearly All Users Caught Up in Obama's Cult of Personality
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You can't even talk to these people if it's not dissing Michele Bachmann, Sarah Palin, or any of the Republican Candidates. I've criticised Obama for not keeping his campaign promises, signing the third George W. Bush tax cuts, making war with Libya, and causing the recession to go even deeper, but they will defend the man to the grave. I've told them Obama is just a Moderate Republican base on his bailout of Wall Street and Automobile Industry, and I'm grilled because they believe you can ONLY re-elected him because the Republican candidates are bat shit crazy (which I agree) none of them care for voting or even having a third political party in our system. They will re-elected this man without question base on their hatred of the GOP, but they don't understand both parties are under the full control of the lobbyist and Fortune 500 corporations. They don't care that our troops are never going to leave Iraq, they dont care that our troops with supposely leave Afghanistan in 2014 (I doubt they even do base on being on the border of Pakistan), they don't care about the drone strikes that have been going on in Pakistan since 2004, that Obama is still ordering under his Presidence, they don't care about the drone strikes in Yemen, they don't care Obama is abusing his power to make war illegally on Libya, and finally, they don't care that NATO is nothing more than a proxy U.S. war machine that the U.S. taxpayer supports (currently 75% of the NATO 'mission' in Libya). How can smart, educated, young people think that this man has actually done one thing to improve this country? Their main argument is that Obama inherited this Recession, okay, you're right, he did, but what has Obama done to stop this Recession turn into a Depression? Not a damn thing. They refuse to admit that Obama has taken more of our Right's and Freedom's then even George W. Bush did. Extending the Patriot Act? Are you kidding me? Just look at the Executive Acts Obama has signed. This Cult of Personality of Obama is going to ruin this country. Just because you hated one man soo much for 8 solid years, you'll let another man do exactly the same thing over his term (and probably 2 term because he will get re-elected) because he is a smooth talker (unlike Bush) and puts on a big smile and tells you repeatedly that things are going to get better?
They are only getting worse....
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Came across this text in George Orwell's "1984" and I can't decided whether it describes the American politics or the North Korean dictatorship
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"War, it will be seen, not only accomplishes the necessary destruction, but accomplishes it in a psychologically acceptable way. In principle it would be quite simple to waste the surplus labor of the world by building temples and pyramids, by digging holes and filling them up again, or even by producing vast quantities of goods and then setting fire to them. But this would provide only the economic and not the emotional basis for a hierarchical society. What is concerned here is not the morale of the masses, whose attitude is unimportant so long as they are kept steadily at work, but the morale of the Party itself. Even the humblest Party member is expected to be competent, industrious, and even intelligent within narrow limits, but it is also necessary that he should be a credulous and ignorant fanatic whose prevailing moods are fear, hatred, adulation, and orgiastic triumph. In other words it is necessary that he should have the mentality appropriate to a stale of war. It does not matter whether the war is actually happening, and, since no decisive victory is possible, it does not matter whether the war is going well or badly. All that is needed is that a state of war should exist."
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Reddit, I feel desperate, had a "conspiracy" conversation with my parents, they think I'm crazy and that "Everything gets fixed", "Let the politicians do politics and let the economist deal with the economy. I need help to "unplug them from the matrix".
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I did everything, burned them movies, pointing them at links with actual "substance" rather than just propaganda stories and bullshit, all they had to say to me is that WHATEVER is happening in this word, SOMEONE is taking care of it, I have MORE IMPORTANT things to "WASTE" my time on. My mom then added "Even if you want to do something about it, you can't. Why should I stop myself from taking vacations and having fun when I only have one life to live.
I replied to them that THEIR future might be set in stone, but MY FUTURE is very far from certain. WHATEVER I DO regarding these issues is more important for me and my generation and future generations than taking vacations and ignoring everything.
I simply cannot stand it! Another thing is that my family don't speak english at all and I'm pretty much bilingual and most content on these issues is in english. So they don't understand shit and when I try to explain it, I sound plain crazy. I have no one to back me, they're all there listening to me like I'm going insane or something, smiling when I bring new things up. I told my mom, one day, when things turn bad, you'll think : "Yea, MY son wasn't sleeping and knew about this and tried to warn me." To which she answered: "Whatever, what difference does it make if you know things when you can't do nothing about it. Well if EVERYONE was aware of how fucked they are and how they're being sodomized everyday by the corporate world, then, but only then, maybe things would change. They still don't get the point. So my question today Reddit, what's they best way, the best documentary, the best fucking metaphor, to explain what's going on because THEY DON'T GET IT. They're my parents and I only have love for them so if they would listen to me and learn something I'd feel great but all they do is look at me and can't believe the crazy stories coming out of their son's mouth.
TL;DR: Trying to.. "awaken" my parents but I'm not doing progress! Need to know your tricks, what I should show them. They don't speak english, only french. So if you guys know of any good French documentary about the NWO, and all these subjects that "really matter", I'd love to hear the titles.
Edit: I know my writing is not perfect, I learned english by my fucking self on the internet so give me a break ;)
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Debt Ceiling Debate Finally Understood - Eliminate Transparency by Waiting Until Last Minute
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Look, nobody in Washington wants the list of cuts to be read and understood by the public. They want a 2,000 page omnibus proposal package to be released, in a handful of printed copies only, less than a day before it is voted on. They want to be able to say that they HAD to vote for it, or risk economic meltdown.
This explains why everyone - the president, Congress, the media - has been trying to emphasize the apocalypse that would ensue if they delayed the vote. The president has even gone as far as saying that Social Security checks might not make it out, and that the U.S. government faces an imminent threat of default.
This explains why the two plans still in Congress, the Reid plan andthe Boehner plan, are so similar and yet no concensus can be made.
No politician wants their name to be tied to cuts to social services, especially Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security. The only strategy is to have opposing plans be discussed, blocked, scrapped, and have a new one drafted hours before the vote. Each side can effectively blame the other party ("We had a plan, but they wouldn't take it"). They score points for demanding "as much as they could get" but still being able to negotiate a compromise at the last minute.
And nobody gets to read the proposal. Big win for everyone except the American people.
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They really were trying to keep Ron Paul down.
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I forgot about this until today. Has anyone heard of wheresgeorge.com? The site allows you to enter the serial number of U.S. one dollar bill and it will tell you where it has been (if anyone else had registered it on the site before). I always register any bills I find that are marked with the website and write a little note for the OP and for any future contributors. Any way, in 2008 I decided to write "RON PAUL for president 2008" for my message and pressed enter. The bill was registered but the message only read "for president 2008". I tried to change the message back to the original but again it said "for president 2008". So then I thought they just wouldn't allow the names of political figures, so i tried george bush, dick cheney, and several others. None of the other names were erased! Then i tried a little trickery and put a space between each letter of R o n P a u l's name and it posted just fine. One of the next few times I registered a bill they had a new disclaimer prohibitting any political messages.
TL;DR Webite wouldn't allow RON PAULs name to be posted but would allow any other political figure in 2008
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Behind the Mask... "Expect Us"
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Here's something that came to mind the other day, something you can ponder on...
As we all know Cyber Warfare is the future (now)... and there's been many attacks to show us that the internet we rely on isn't secure... Even the CIA isn't secure and vulnerable to hackers, apparently *(or atleast they wanted to make that point Very public)*-
Combined with the whole Wikileaks fiasco and everything else the govt. is desperately trying to 'shutdown' / manipulate the internet. *(See: Patriot IP Act)*
By now I'm sure you're all aware what a False Flag attack is, and many have been warning about one in the near future, but no-one knows how it'll really happen... but many overlook the probability of a False **Cyber** Flag?
Since Anon itself is anonymous *(the name itself speaks volumes)*, it'll be easy as 'throwing on a mask', joining "the resistance" -- INCEPTING an idea/exploit and backing away from the whole picture -- or better yet it'd be simple as a committing a False Flag Attack and then blaming Anonymous; anyone and everyone.** How would *Anonymous* be able to defend itself?** Everyone knows who ***They*** are But at the same time we don't know.
The attack itself can be significant enough that every and any cyber law can be passed -- remember *September 11th*? The **PATRIOT ACT** happened, passed through with flying colors -- and it went unquestioned.
Now 10 years later, The Patriot IP ACT / ***Protect IP Act*** is on the table...just waiting to pass.
People behind 911 = Anonymous
Lulz Sec = Anonymous
Anonymous = Anonymous
"We are Anonymous. **EXPECT US**"
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Does anybody else think that this "spontaneous" violence in the UK is actually quite well planned and deliberate?
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I could understand when the first group of protesters in Tottenham turned violent - it's easy enough for that to happen - it could have been deliberate agents provocateurs, it could have just been local disaffected youth looking to hijack a protest.
But what has unfolded since has not only covered *multiple* areas of London, it's also unfolded in *other cities*(!), seemingly simultaneously, well organized (the looters/rioters always seem to be one step ahead of the Police), and righteous (every single rioter interviewed seems to follow the same script : "It's the government's fault", "we're getting our tax back", "This is our bankers' bonus" - almost as if they have been *briefed* on how to justify such actions.
I'm not for a moment suggesting WHO might organize such an event, or HOW, or WHY, but I can certainly think of a few groups (the Government being the obvious example) who might benefit from this kind of social unrest.
What do you guys think? Is this a False flag attack designed to justify the state unleashing a full Police state on the UK? If so, why? What are they preparing for? (Peak Oil?). Or is this the actions of a state intelligence service - perhaps the FSB, or Chinese Intelligence, as retaliation for the OBVIOUS intelligence operations involved in the "Arab Spring" in Egypt, Iran, Syria, and most notably Lybia.
Are we seeing the opening salvos in WW3?
Discuss.
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POLL: What do you think will happen first: WW3, or Civil War 2 ? (trying to do a reddit poll- vote system explained inside)
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In recent times I've felt my personal thoughts on this have been wavering and I find that frightening, at the same time I can't imagine I'm alone on this and am curious what the overall "feel" other people have been having is.
It took some creative thought, and your participation, but I think I figured out a way to conduct a non-formal "reddit Poll".
So here's how I've imagined doing this...
First off, if you like the idea of this poll becoming successful and garnering as many responses as possible, upvote the post itself to maximize visibility, and hopefully the number of respondents to the poll with it.
**VOTING IN THE POLL:**
below you should see the 2 options to the poll in one-word replies made by me....
It's simple, upvote your choice in the poll. Number of upvotes will correlate to the "vote" count.
**Ideally i'd like for any discussion about your feelings on this subject to be under one of my "vote option" comments**, so that the "first level" of comments is nobody but me and the voting options I have placed there. This will hopefully avoid forcing people to search too hard to look for the option they'd like to vote for.
TLDR... upvote the post itself if you want to help get it more attention and get more respondents. Upvote the reply stating your opinion made by me to log your vote. Please don't put any replies/discussion in the "first level" of comments as I'd like to reserve that for nothing but the voting options for the ease of others' finding them to cast their "vote".
Thanks, I'm curious what the stats on this is going to be
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24 hours worth of quotes from Twitter users regarding strange noises coming from the sky, and odd weather.
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"The sky in LA is literally purple.. Strange alien noises."
"A lot of strange noises in the sky over Walker in Newcastle tonight - slightly scary"
"scary noises in the sky.."
"There were loud scary noises outside my window a minute ago, woke me up. Now there's just a constant beeping noise. Alien crash landing."
"I thought I was hearing strange noises outside ... It's actually raining in Dallas!!!"
"is up with strange noises tonight? Something unexplained in the sky"
"I can hear the sky making weird rumling noises, that ent no plane or thunder."
"This thunder sounds pretty strange..” (lots of people)
"had some of the best Thunder I've heard in years,up here today. Long low and rattling the windows. Sky was strange colors too"
"Strange thudding noise coming from the sky in #bristol almost sounded like a heartbeat for about 15minutes (possibly thunder?) pretty odd"
"The sun is shining, it is pretty warm out, and in the background I hear thunder rumbling, very strange, not typical so who knows......."
"Sunny on one side of the house and thunder on the other...this weather is strange!"
"really weird, no rain or wind, just thunder and lightning for about 3 hours!"
"Fairly certain I heard lightning there and not just thunder, weird."
"Crazy Ass Lightning And Thunder But No Rain "
"I've been hearing some really odd sounding thunder during this storm here in brooklyn. "
"The thunder does not rumble here in Kenner. Very sharp, loud cracks overhead. But no rain. Odd."
"Wow! The weather is Soo!!~ odd right,now! It's a bit sunny outside & all ur hear is thunder rumbling in the sky o.O?!"
"The sky is making the most odd noises.
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12 hours worth of quotes from Twitter, strange noises, weather.
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"What's that weird noise outside, it sounds like something you hear #IfAliensAttack"
"I Swear Bmore Thunder Sounds Weird As Fuck!!!<<<-"
"the thunder's so far away, but it sounds so weird."
"the thunder sounds weird todayy"
"Thunder at the new place sounds SO weird. Going to take some getting used to..."
"Weird hearing what sounds like very loud thunder when it is sunny in my backyard. Maybe a big building fell down or someone dropped a pot."
"that was odd thunder, didn't like it."
"This thunder has such a roar to it. it's odd but kinda sweet"
"Really weird fuckin noises coming from outside..."
"weird creepy noises outside, i wont even go out to finish smoking"
"I'm hearing weird noises outside and they sound kinda close .. "
"yo .. i aint tripping .. but its some weird ass shit going on outside ! crazy ass noises !"
"Same here, and there's some friggin' weird noises outside. Hiding under the duvet now like a wimp.."
"I think it's lightening?! but it sounds exactly like fireworks right outside my window it's weird? haha"
"there are some weird sounds outside! "
"What the hell is that noise coming from outside, sounds like an alien invasion or something!"
"About 20 minutes ago there was a weird sound outside. Come cracking sounds and the water pressure is a bit off. :S What's going on?"
"What! Go check out that strange noise outside!?"
"Sounds like fucking aliens coming from the sky with their UFO's"
"Everytime I hear unusually loud noises coming from the sky I say to myself, "Well, I lived a good life."
"Weird noise coming from the sky for the past 15 minutes, sure the worlds ending."
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Please convince me why 5-15% of the worlds population dying is a bad thing. Also later on family values. I'm a two year r/conspiracy frequent.
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I'd like to think differently but I'm more and more aligning to an extent with the eugenicistic elites. I don't want to target anyone based upon a psychical morphology or system of beliefs but it seems to me that the current system is unsustainable. Just look around you... the elites have been shaping very intensely for a few generations now and there are significant numbers of people who don't seem to have any productive capacity anymore. I would love to have a time machine to go back and "change" some of these particularly defining moments but I'm currently out of flux capacitors. I don't want to have to choose between a parasitic upper crust and a parasitic under crust. Really I want neither. Admittedly I'm a middle class producer who is sometimes lazy. Really in reality I do whatever I want and sometimes the time line is longer than I would like it to be.
I have to ask if anyone here wants to be squeezed like a vice? I'm mixed being feeling grumpy and calm about what is happening. Usually I take an early beating and then when the masses get frustrated I'm just like "Oh that old thing". In reality though its a bitch. I'm single and without kids and I can go where I want. Woh though. What if I had kids. Holy fuck! Are you telling me that I'd have to be forced to stay here? and forever!?! Well that would be more than I could take. Really. For me it is just simply not tolerable. I couldn't do it. For me the waste lands of just outside of the US are littered with US throwaways that have been cast away by the empire for one reason or another. It is difficult for me to reconcile myself against all of this and still be optimistic. It seems ugly to me on the inside and just so amazingly ugly to me on the outside. To be honest with all of you living in the US it was a nightmare thought to me when I was out of here. A few personal disasters brought me back and I am about to leave. To say nothing of politics I must say that life here just seems consistently empty and without real enjoyment. I'm sure that not everyone feels this way but I'm sure that those people have a particularly difficult sort of conflict. Life might possibly be better elsewhere but really that is not at all an option because they have some sort of dependent family. I think for those people staying in the US is the only option and sacrifice is really the only option for a decent person. I for one just can't personally, you know - oops it here. Just can't do it.
So I just want to say that I have my heart and limited check book out for the cause and my mind is always willing but I won't be joining anyone on the street level, (here that fusion fuck heads). Whatever that may be. I'm not convinced that any particular country is going to win out at any given moment. It seems to me that this is the time for ideas and talent concerning ideas. What we need are communications. I'll be working on the back end to make sure that the people who are too deep into the guts of the machinery to understand the overall significance of it are able to get the word out about new technologies. Really what we need are mesh networking protocols that are able to communicate **directly** with other computers without any need for a base station . We absolutely need to be able to easily communicate with each other directly. This is currently not possible. The technology for this has been suppressed and it is about to break out. Support the Linux operating system and you will quickly have this technology. Its about to be a mother fucker so stay strong and pursue your personal skills and your ultra elite computer skills also.
Ps. Don't forget about your personal skills. Advice: Talk to a bum for more than 30 minutes. He'll tell you what is up. Where he gets his money. Where the camps are. Who gives out food. Where the police round ups are happening. How to go to jail. How not to go to jail. You get the picture.
pss. Pick up hitch hikers. Do craigslist ride shares. Pays your way and teaches you about what is going on in the ultra loost and fast world of the vagrant soon to be about 15% of the population.
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email I received, obviously to be taken with a grain of salt but still disturbing.
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Criticize ObamaCare & Go To Jail?
ALERT: An Obama appointee judge is threatening to jail a group of conservative activists for criticizing ObamaCare!
Rep. Steve Driehaus was ousted in the 2010 elections and boy did he have an ax to grind. He refused to assume any personal responsibility for why he lost so he decided to file a lawsuit instead.
Who is the target of the lawsuit? A group of law-abiding, politically active women from the Susan B. Anthony List organization! What was the group's so-called crime? Exercising their 1st Amendment Rights! They aired an ad criticizing Driehaus' vote for ObamaCare so he decided to drag them to court.
To make matters worse, Judge Timothy Blackin (an Obama appointee) has REFUSED to dismiss Driehaus' frivolous lawsuit and instead is charging the patriotic group of women with DEFAMATION and possible JAIL TIME!
Are You Outraged Yet?
I certainly am. That is why I am asking you to fill out the Emergency Political Freedom Poll - right away. Your answers will alert the freedom-grabbers that we will not sit back and do nothing while they snatch away our 1st Amendment Rights. We must tell them that we will NOT SUPPORT any legislation or proposals that kill our right to criticize the government!
Even though our 1st Amendment Rights are supposed to protect our right to engage in free speech, it looks like the subversive Obama Administration has found a way to weasel around that. The way things are going just criticizing a candidate will result in jail time. Obama wants to create an EAST GERMANY-STYLE dictatorship! One critical comment about the government will get you thrown in jail!
If The Liberals Are Successful We Could All Go To Jail
Believe me, unless you and I take action, the liberals will fiercely advance their seditious plans. Their goal is pass as many laws as possible to GAG everyone who disagrees with their Socialist agenda. That's the reason why I'm asking you to immediately take the Emergency Political Freedom Poll.
This is a MASSIVE left-wing conspiracy to SILENCE conservatives!
Right now, the liberals are holding clandestine meetings to ram a slew of anti-1st Amendment legislation through Congress. They are waiting patiently for the right moment to SNEAK their bills through the legislative process. We must be prepared. We CANNOT let them get away with passing laws the American people DO NOT support!
You Need To Make Your Voice Heard NOW! Or Else The Radicals Will Snatch Away That Right!
Your answers to the Emergency Political Freedom Poll will allow AmeriPAC to build our important strategic plan to beat back any freedom-killing legislation. Will you stand with us?
We Can Never Take Our 1st Amendment Freedoms For Granted Again!
Things will only get worse. Obama has DELIBERATELY stuffed our courts full of rabid socialists so he can pass any law he wants! Just look at outrageous ruling against the Susan B. Anthony List. Bob Unruh, of World Net Daily wrote:
"The judge, who cited Google as a source in one footnote of his ruling, said, 'Upon a careful review of both of the [Congressional Research Service] memoranda cited by the parties, this court fails to identify any affirmative statement that the PPACA [ObamaCare] includes taxpayer funded abortion.'
Therefore, he ruled, a trial must be held to determine whether there was a defamation and whether there was malice in the statements by the SBA List, including those by its president, Marjorie Dannenfelser."
Please do not assume the slick, dishonest Obama Administration will expose or oppose these treasonous actions against our political freedom. Until ordered to do so by Congress, the White House will ruthlessly advance their anti-1st Amendment agenda.
Unless you and I act today, there will be no end to the freedom grabbing laws the liberals will pass. I urge you to take a stand against the anti-freedom zealots before it's too late.
But we can't do this without your support. That's why we've set up our poll so that you can FORCE Washington to "feel the heat" from the MAJORITY of the American people! Take action TODAY -- before Obama and his buddies destroy our country!
Please help us generate OVERWHELMING pressure on Congress to protect our right to oppose the Obama regime. So please fill out your EMERGENCY POLITICAL FREEDOM POLL and if possible, could you please chip in $10...$15...or $50? Whatever you can afford is much appreciated.
Your future. My future. And our children's futures are on the line.
Be sure to MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD TODAY! Thank you!
FILL OUT THE EMERGENCY POLITICAL FREEDOM POLL!
Defend America,
Alan M. Gottlieb
Chairman, AmeriPAC
P.S. Remember, the anti-freedom zealots have very deep pockets. Your financial contribution will help keep AmeriPAC's efforts moving forward. Our goal is to expand our EMERGENCY POLITICAL FREEDOM POLL to 1 million more patriots by the end of the year to turn them into freedom activists!
If you prefer to send a check, please mail to:
American Political Action Committee (AmeriPAC)
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Bellevue, WA 98009-1682
Paid for by AmeriPAC, a federally-authorized and qualified multi candidate political action committee. Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. Contributions to AmeriPAC will be used in connection with federal elections. Maximum contribution per individual per calendar year is $5,000. Contributions from foreign nationals and corporations are prohibited. Contributions are not deductible for federal income tax purposes.
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An uplifting message from me to you about the NWO.
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I am affiliated with the "New World Order" as you idiots call it. I just wanted to let you guys know that within the next two weeks or so we're finally gonna roll out the big play that guarantees you stupid fucks are enslaved and then extinct forever. Everything is going according to plan; there is absolutely no opposition that is able to stop us or even hinder us any more. I know you guys think you're accomplishing something by "educating people" and "waking people up," but trust me, that all fits right into what we intend to do and it's absolutely no concern to us. Even the militias across the USA who plan to resist the police are only doing our bidding, really. After all, what else would you expect from a population stupid enough to be exterminated?
I just wanted to post for the sake of gloating in your idiot faces. I simply cannot wait for the final masterstroke. You stupid fucking pigs will die by the tens of millions. If you have a house, you will lose it. If you have kids, they will die suffering. If you need food, you will kill each other and sell yourselves into sexual slavery just to eat. I can't wait! Each and every one of you disgusting pieces of trash will finally receive your due consequence for being so toxic and worthless. Get ready, pigs! Get ready!
My explicit goal is to cause you harm and pain by waving the truth in your face with your full knowledge of your own impotence. Sadly, you won't even realize I'm 100% serious for another week or two, and it can't even be proven because you're too stupid to know what signifies what, so my ability to administer this pain is compromised. This just causes me to hate you more. I truly can't wait for you pathetic pieces of garbage to finally get the due reward for your worthless piece of shit existences. Soon your habitation on this earth will be no more than a memory I happily recall as I beat your shackled children with bats to blow off steam at my leisure. Enjoy your last days of freedom -- oh wait! You're too stupid to even know how!
See you in two weeks or less you disgusting pigs!
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The Commissioners, the Personnel Director, County Clerk, Chief Deputy, lesser officials, etc.
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The Commissioners, the Personnel Director, County Clerk, Chief Deputy, lesser officials, etc.
So, why did I stir things up? I have confidence in the Open Records Act in my state, including some protection from Freedom of Information Act. As well as a college education in the same field of law and journalism, including training for media types to get information from the government.
Introduction: I live in a "very conservative, Christian good ol' boy" region with a government body that never changes, they recycle the same inbred fools who fear progressive ideas. I despise living here, however due to a family situation, I cannot leave at the moment.
The economy here is terrible and the County was hiring, so I swallowed my pride and applied. The interview went well and I got the job, expecting to just work and avoid politics - especially the religious aspect. But that wasn't even an option from day one, immediately I'm asked by co-workers what church I attend, where I grew up (from a major city, not the country), and why I was working there.
Of course my responses were short as to avoid any conflict and things were quiet for a while, but I had the feeling I had been ostracized already as a "city boy." I was in a Catch-22 at this point. My department ignored me, but I was directly under an elected official, the one who hired me, whose spouse was also a high ranking official in the area. They had clout over most of the public. This was the driving force behind applying for the job, my college education and experience was leading me towards running for office one day.
I got to know all of the elite in the area, going to meetings and other events with them, meeting judges, and other power brokers. Although I disagreed with most of their political views, I was open to hearing other views, but constantly wondering what the fuck I was doing. Paying dues? Kissing ass to get ahead? Not sure, but my co-workers took notice and went ever further to avoid me as I got to know the top officials.
I was under a 90-day introduction period of "at-will" employment. I had no protection whatsoever, but never any doubt because I've held jobs for years at a time. Well, surprise, surprise within 3 weeks, I'm called into the office and informed that I "don't fit in and my personality was too strong." Surely people complained, but whatever, I was dumbfounded and walked away with mixed feelings, maybe they were right.
So after a few days of getting my thoughts together, I realized...these people are public servants, they work for the public, including myself now that I was let go. Then it dawned on me, I do have access to all records on their server, I know how they store their information, so I put together the most detail request possible. I labored over the law and statutes for the Act, making sure it was not vague and covered every aspect.
I requested all of the electronic and written communication of different officials from the month before I was hired and a week after I was terminated. They have 10 days to contact me with an opinion and explain their position about my access to the information. I laugh knowing that I'm able to do this, especially imaging their thoughts upon opening the letters. Calling one another, including the legal department to get advice, applying to the Attorney General for an opinion.
If they don't comply, they face criminal charges. If they do, at least I can look through all of the information in person. I have the option to choose whatever info I want copied, even if there is nothing of interest.
tl:dr - Worked for the County, got fire immediately likely for being a progressive stuck in the Bible-belt. I have requested records through the Open Records Act, over 10 officials will receive the requests for all communication while I worked there. Hilarity may likely ensue and I don't care what the repercussions are. I posted this in conspiracy, hoping to find some type of collusion or even illegal behavior that has nothing to do with me. These aren't exactly the smartest people, at least from my perception...
I'll keep you updated, they have until September 21st to comply.
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Does anyone else think it's strange.......
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I could barely sleep last night from thinking about this. But don't you think it is strange that after 9/11 happened, all of the sudden there is a major attack on the freedom to film and take pictures? Someone might say it's because they don't want pictures with structural or vital info to fall into the wrong hands. I don't know about you, but last i checked i didn't have any terrorist friends on facebook.
Here is my thought/theory/idea, whatever you wanna call it. After 9/11 happened, what was the main source for people gathering facts about what actually happened? What is the major thing that has brought this conspiracy and others to the front and called people out for possibly lying or deceiving people? Yup, you guess it......pictures and video. Without these we would have no data to analyze to find the truth because as we have witnessed, they like to haul off any evidence before it can be analyzed, and this has been a thorn in the governments backside for a long time.
So our freedom of capturing evidence is under attack, not because of terrorists, but because it makes it hard for Uncle Sam to get away with stuff. We are the nanny cams of America, and they hate that.
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Dear Reddit: Please help get the word out about conspiracy site viruses, their mods are IP banning Nazis...
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Every once in a while I like to check out a conspiracy site called God Like Productions...
And every now and then Symantec goes off that a trojan is trying to invade my computer.
At first I thought it might have been it's ads, so installed flash-block. This reduced the number of attempted infections by quite a bit...
However now I'm getting Java Trojans...
If any redditor who feels brave and doesn't care about getting their IP banned from GLP, which they will for simply bringing up the issue.
Will you please go the site and post a quick anonymous thread.
"Dear God Like Productions: please address your security issues and not ban people who try to do so."
As far as I know I've never had a virus attempt from the homepage, it's always from some random thread, which leads me to believe that maybe they're just not scrubbing the threads very well... addressing the issue gets you banned though... so if you dare, click on threads at your own risk...
Any snapshots of a maintained thread with discussions and responses would be nice as I'm not even allowed to read the site anymore... before they would just ban me from posting for bringing this up... now they're just being dicks...
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