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nondual space
loc2
could potentially be a later location
loc5+
sense of peace
lay3
location 1 finders often still have conditioning that relates to approval from others
loc1
layer three of location three
loc3lay3
location 3
loc3
it seems pretty clear that im in location three layer three and its just theres just this strong overriding sense of joy and contentment
loc3lay3
arent in fundamental wellbeing
nfw
feeling of union or merger with the divine or an allpervasive consciousness in location three may be divine or panpsychic with a sense of perfection and higher wellbeing than location 2
loc3lay1
no distinct sense of an eye that is thinking
loc2lay1
i think just like two times maybe like exactly as described in the book just the spaciousness emptiness at one point became just fullness and but it only happened to me after like deep deep yoga and meditation like for a long time
lay3
being uncomfortable with not knowing
lay1
spacious openness
loc2
it doesnt matter what it is how do you know this this is very hard for people to detect especially with layer one and so with layer one
lay1
agent of whatevers happening in terms of your system what youre doing what youre thinking what youre feeling
lay1
highly functioning
loc4lay3
fundamentalist beliefs
tfw
be having presence
lay3
deeper stillness pervading and coexisting with the spaciousness and emptiness
lay2
the more im in layer three the more distracted i am
lay3
i remember then i can sense the presence as initially as one of the objects that is in and then i have to sort of relax
lay3
sort of love and joy and gratitude
loc3
sensory motor stuff
nfw
is your body located in the fullness and the hows that hows it spatially
lay3
habit
loc1
finders of feeling this lack of agency are consistent across these finders in location 4 so we must accept that this is how it feels inside them but what produces their actions remains a mystery
loc4
its nondual
loc2
but that person also had the access still had access to location one
loc1
no body nothing just consciousness
lay2
location 1 layer 4 is extremely difficult to access from location 1 and generally experienced as a glimpse from other layers
loc1lay4
sense of togetherness
lay3
or 3
loc3
is there a difference in wellbeing when the spacious emptiness takes over versus when its not there
tfw
so when that when you feel that you are that thats really near the deepest reaches of layer three
lay3
watch the thinking occur but you really are not an active participant in the thinking process
loc4lay1
layer two it relates to the sense of the spaciousness being everywhere being everything
lay2
in location 1 layer 4 the daily grind is infused with moments of enlightenment turning ordinary tasks into meditative practices
loc1lay4
i would have said before i took the class that i have a charmed life
loc2lay3
so if i do if i meditate in a certain way i have meditated and it happens and i drop into more of a kind of equalized more still flat perception i would say or just not not perhaps not maybe not flat but its like dropping into a different dimension if you could say that like thats not really its not about the physical ...
lay3
the only one i can remember is that that those thoughts of that one person it wasnt even something that i would identify as negative
loc4
you have a very quiet nothingness and layer two for you and location two
loc2lay2
a few even seem to have maps that extend far beyond location 4 but these are typically kept hidden
loc4
continual expansion
loc2lay2
i actually it was actually this past so i started the 45 days course in january and and it took me until early august actually to where i actually diagnosed myself as okay im actually at that point fundamental wellbeing
tfwc
sort of then the fullness can start to come in
lay3
along with the spaciousness mhm like in the room in the space
lay2
single positive emotion
loc3
much greater feeling of richness
lay3
its inside me and spreads but its also like its everywhere
lay3
presence all pervading kind of thing
lay3
everything is just kind of just there
lay2
frequently reported significant difficulty
loc4
no sense of emotion
loc4
i suppose the goals are in location two to do some deconditioning
loc2
and it also sounds like youre able to shift your sense of self into layer two with some focus on layer two and really sinking into it
lay2
wanted to see if we could use that to maybe get you fluid between location one and location two because were not really worried about you not popping back for anybody thats listening to this dont do that dont do what i just had to do just as like a default normal exercise i have an enormous amount of faith in where ted...
loc2lay1
layer two thing
lay2
increasing flatness of perception
loc4
freedom from any decision making
loc4
layer 3 is the default layer of location 3 and is experienced as the divine or panpsychist presence or as divine love itself in and as everything
loc3lay3
there is nothing arising from or within it
loc3lay4
alive
lay3
if youve just got some patterns that unwind as a function of deconditioning and what returns whether there is a joy some sort of intense joy you know underneath all of that or whatnot
loc3
even if internally the motivation isnt as strong as it was previously
loc1
deepening away from layer 1 may remove it from ones subjective awareness but that does not mean it stops operating this essentially leaves the conditioned psychological tendencies that reside at layer 1 to function unsupervised which may not lead to optimal life outcomes
loc2lay2
youre identifying more youre identifying at layer two essentially which is the classic description spaciousness emptiness mystery as well
loc2lay2
primarily involves the mind
lay1
even the visual field itself kind of like narrows so theres like this huge feeling of relaxation and freeness that i feel in what im calling layer three
lay3
it feels like space is the foundation or the base or the transparency
lay2
the fieldlike presence of layer 3 feels powerful and penetrating and being deep in layer 3 can seem to have a noticeable influence on other people
loc3lay3
i think he had a lot of those tendencies even remaining in fundamental wellbeing and one thing that hes learned is that you know using certain supplements and stuff to really sort of increase my i mean any time theres some new thing that might increase mitochondria energy more you know than what hes using or something ...
tfw
just everything and this happened to me like every time im sinking like deep
lay2
increasing aliveness and power
loc1
and so you know and even like you know its not often that someone uses the word felt like hell right being constantly frustrated upset at everything you know as a result of the intensity of you know trying to reprogram your system decondition your system you know all of that and so clearly youve got a lot of stuff down...
lay1
layer 4 will initially be sensed as an even deeper stillness or silence than that of layer 3 this deepest stillness brings with it a loss of dimensionality and seems flat or stark when compared to the richness of layer 3
loc2lay4
its there and location to layer three and then the personal side drops off and location three and then emotion itself drops off and location four and thats whats providing that richness you know of that experience and so its although there can still be you know a sense of presence found in the experience and stuff like...
loc4lay4
it just sounds like its in the direction of fundamental well being type of stuff to me
tfw
so spending a lot of time trying to thinking that youre going to decondition something like that while youre in layer one and that thats going to be like the key to moving you forward in fundamental wellbeing is more or less just a really good way to waste a lot of time
tfw
ive still probably because of you know heavy conditioning with that ive prioritized you know as of the past couple of years so i have conditioned in addition to this you know a lot of fear based layer early layer one
loc2lay1
then next sort of felt as a fullness
lay3
layer three presence
lay3
kind of empty and full and clear
lay2
merging is
loc3
nondual frame of experience
loc2
consciousness
lay2
and so were going to start on the 29th going into layer two
lay2
personal love
loc3
id have to be quiet still and not doing anything and take some time to just bring my attention to it you know and it might take at least ten 15 minutes just sitting still just to get that get more to drop more into that sense that this is me
lay3
that sounds great okay so based on what i am hearing i would say that you absolutely have an experience of location to layer three cool im trying or not that also now whether or not you are and you know that already all right otherwise you would have had to skip this interview to be digging a trench somewhere to run so...
loc3lay3
depending upon their individual capability in this area finders may be able to choose to observe the orienting response feel the physiological sensation or first inklings of thought that they know will soon bring anger and consciously note it
loc1
fullness to it and feeling a presence
lay3
we want to think about it that i think part of it is always with someone that we have to you know really come to grips with that really give our systems permission for that really communicate that were okay with that youve spent a long time now telling your system this is what i want experience wise something like this...
loc3lay4
its more of an active a location three is more of an active merging of me with this great greatness rather than the nondual of its all this right is that im understanding correctly
loc3
layer one is happening but its happening within the confines of layer two say or layer three and layer one or layer three and layer two or whatever
lay1
its more like 21 so mostly layer one as i am still very much in the world and not so out there doing stuff
loc2lay1
sort of really flat desert
loc4
energy that infused everything
loc4
this freedom entails a loss of perceptual dimensionalitydeepening into layer 4 involves stripping away or getting beneath the processes that filter perception until 54 all that remains is increasingly raw sense data
loc4lay4
whereas layer three can be a lot easier to live life from so if that experience was something you loved its cool
lay3
and then same for location three in some ways so location three can be really powerful for healing things because you cant really experience negative emotion so just bringing you know thats essentially the whole thing with leicesters love it just really encodes the memories to be an experience thats associated with the...
loc3