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` It seems to me, to use a Christian metaphor, that you cast the first stone. Basically my attitude here is that it is not only good men who should be identified as Christians. If someone self-identifies as a train enthusiast that is good enough for me. If there is a Wikipedia category for train enthusiasts then he should be included. The category is for ``train enthusiasts`` not ``good train enthusiasts``. We have no need to examine the purity of his enthusiasm. Besides, you are on a slippery slope. In one Western democracy yesterday it was announced that more than 180,000 abortions happened last year. That country is run by one who identifies himself very publicly as a Christian. But he never speaks out against abortion. He also took his country to war on false pretenses (he deliberately told lies) and in that war 20,000 innocent civilians have died who would not have died if there had been no war. Using your argument Tony Blair cannot be identified as a Christian. But I do not want to use your argument. Nor do I think we should. (But even if we use your argument we cannot see into Tariq Aziz's soul.) That you (presumably another Christian) re-act with distaste that Aziz belongs to the same club is not the point. Create a category for ``saintly christians`` is a possibility (although it would be horribly POV) and maybe you should exclude Azis from that category. `
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== Reminder == This page belongs to many different people, as can be judged by the contributions. It has been the subject of personal attacks by various WikiPedia users, and also in an official capacity by WikiPedia administrators. Please remember not to edit this page unless you share this IP address. Comments are welcome, but will be removed after they have been read and are no longer relevant. This is not an encyclopaedia page.
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Tony Blair doesn't just claim to be a Christian, he is one. That he is perhaps not the best Christian is my point: He is still a Christian, but maybe not a good one. Bush similarly. There are countless Christians of whom many Christians such as yourself might not be proud, but they are Christians nonetheless. That Aziz identifies himself as a Christian makes him one. You are very probably right to believe he is not a good one. And, of course, I too would be embarassed by him were I a Christian. Wikipedia is not a Christian project (by which I mean to say nothing bad about Wikipedia). Articles cannot be judged purely from a Christian perspective. And certainly not only from one Christian's POV. What now? We seem to disagree. I have sought others' opinions here.
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` ==National Academy of Science== I agree wholeheartedly that Creation ``Science`` is a pseudoscience. A possible criticism of the NAS's view (see quote above) is that the NAS would say that, wouldn't they. It would be better if a body ouside of the science establishment could be quoted. Perhaps some quotes from philosophers of science. `
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43, 28 July 2005 (UTC) : I see your changes, Wasted, and as they seem to be carefully worded, including the reference to when Rodham began to use the name Rodham Clinton, they form an acceptable compromise. Hopefully, both of us are at least somewhat happy with this compromise and will be able maintain it. 18
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` 2005 (UTC) You gotta give these guys a break! Their heads must be spinning with all this going on. Some ``comic relief`` is definitely needed. -) 20:06, 28 July`
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excuse me? I have been too busy fighting vandals on the dubya page to vandalize. Can you believe how biased they are? took me weeks to get a reference to his nickname included, not i just have to get the context added as well.
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:::: Iamnotsteve here, just a little PO'ed that I got blocked AGAIN for another user. BTW, android, that was insulting. Anywho, I THINK a buddy and I figured out who steve is. Great policy folks, btw. Nothing like blocking a multiuser IP for a month. Well, at least me and the other serious wiki users can at least go home and get on our own IP and still use it. Sucks balls that I cannot edit for a month between classes while I eat lunch. Iamnotsteve
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` :What bothers me the most is your refusal to consider my point. I never said you don't use the quran. I said you're not an arabic speaker. If you were you'd realize that the tafaseer do not see this as an eclipse, nor does Yusuf Ali's translation match the arabic text. there is neither ``engulfed`` or ``buried`` or even ``darkness`` in the verse in question. There is only the verb khasafa, which means darkened. That's where the word for eclipse comes from ``khosoof``. The classical interpreters' work is good enough for me. None have suggested it's an eclipse, as i've pointed out in our discussion. As to the charge of personal attacks - I reject it. I said you're neither an arabic speaker nor a muslim. I may be wrong about the latter, but it's obvious you're relying on yusuf ali's translation rather than the original text. I've also said you're vandalizing the page I started, and violating its intent and philosophy. The reason I say this is that you insist on adding your view to the main body of the article before we've settled it first in the discussion page. Now that's vandalism. And I'm more than happy to let the admins settle this between us. `
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` This whole article isn't POV. Brookline is a jewel of a suburb? COME ON!!! I'm not doubting that Brookline is nice, in fact, I know Brookline is nice. I've been there. But the whole Culture section needs to be rewrittten. It's filled with adjectives such as ``marvelous`` and ``magnificent``. It reads like it was copied from an article in a travel section of a magazine. As for the part about the schools, how about instead of calling them good, we put in those statistics that found. -`
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== Japs == Its a good thing we bombed them. They were very bad.
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We drove past it on our way back from stanstead the other day... 9a is the junction with the A1301, A11 and M11 (Spur) at Stump Cross, whilst 9 is the limited access junction between the M11 and it's spur which becomes the A11. Did you know that the southbound stretch from Duxford (Junction 10) to Stanstead (Junction 8) is the 2nd longest stretch of motorway in the country (after the M26) with no access to off sliproads at junctions? -
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:LED lifespans are usually best measured in terms of half life: the time it takes for the LED to fade to half its original brightness. Half-lives for LEDs are usually quoted in the range of 10,000 to 100,000 hours, but I don't know if these are the real numbers, or just something marketing came up with. For most purposes, an LED used as an indicator light can be considered as lasting forever. LEDs used for illumination will need to be replaced eventually.
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Well thanks for your opinion, but I think its appropriate. Please see: keep your opinions to yourself
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::::In other words, it is your beliefs that say Aziz is not a Christian. It is your belief that the Bible defines what a Christian is, your belief that failure to follow the Bible makes someone not be a Christian, and your belief that Aziz did not attempt to follow the Bible.
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::::Just out of curiosity, would you consider Pope Sergius III, Pope John XII, and Pope Alexander VI to be Christians?
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* I've raised the matter to the administrators. It's up to them to decide in this case. You have been flamebaiting and I have no time or desire for it.
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::::::::::(<- lots of colons) I'm saving about $1100 doing it this way, 2gb ram 1TB HD array, and the new Pentium D processor, are all expensive. This way I get my govt discount.
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I'd like to remind you of the three-revert rule. With your persistent removal of Tariq Aziz from Category:Christian people, you're quite close to violating it.
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:Actually, the universe only has one set of laws. It's just that under different conditions, different portions of the laws become the dominant force. Scientists tend to simplify things by only using and studying those portions of the laws that are dominant for any given set of conditions. This leads to the appearance that quantum physics, Newtonian physics, and general relativity are three different sets of laws.
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== Could you please help with another user? == Hi. I have to reason to believe the user freestylefrappe has been adding irrelevant and mistranslated content into the article qiyamah After lengthy a few lengthy threads in the article's talk page, and my user's talk page, he seems to have stopped reverting my deletions, but he continues to flamebait me. I've made a brief report on the Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress but i've had no replies. I've decided to stop replying to the user even if he restores his earlier edits. He's charging me with insulting him and another user, and is quoting earlier edits of mine from our discussion threads which I had deleted and replaced with final more restrained versions of my replies. None of this is what i come to wikipedia for, and I'd like to resolve this continuing interaction, so I can get on with the actual editing and augmentation of my articles' content. Thank you and regards
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` == Vandalism == Please stop vandalizing ``Natalee_Holloway``. This is your official warning. Another instance of vandalism will result in you not being able to edit pages. Thank you, Wikipedia.`
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Stop talking you stink of penis breath.
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2005 (UTC) : Dmcdevit , thank you very much for your input. Yes it is very helpful, and I will follow your recommendations. Thanks again for the expedient reply. Best. 05:16, 29 July
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== Thank you very much == : Dmcdevit , thank you very much for your input. Yes it is very helpful, and I will follow your recommendations. Thanks again for the expedient reply and help. Best.
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:Thank you Mr. Anonymous, or 60.226.17.60, but porn is going to be released on the PSP, at least in Japan. True, Sony wouldn't do it, but it's not Sony that's releasing it. It's a third party company. Sony is allowing it on the PSP because they want the UMD format to be successful. I'd take the time to link you to an article if I weren't so lazy - and didn't feel that it wasn't worth the trouble since you are clearly not very intelligent.
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==The force is strong in this one== I have a feeling this article could have great potential. I'll probably work on it in the future, but we need some sort of way of getting it more noticed. The PSP homebrew scene is quite large, and as such, this could provide for a large article.
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` (``we``? Who are ``we``? That's biased in itself...)`
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:You can do this yourself. Here is how. Click on the 'history' tab. That will show you the list of edits. If you want to see what happened in an edit, just click on 'last' (at the left). By doing that, I see that 'destinations' was changed to 'services' by . If you want to revert an article, here is how. Click on 'history' tab as before. Click on the date of the version you want. Click on the edit tab. Select all the text and copy it. Then go back the current version of the article by clicking on 'article' and then 'edit'. Then paste the old text over the current text. That is how you do it but I don't advise that you do it. I hope that helps. This really is not my field and I am not sure where to suggest. Try asking in the talk page of the article (click on the 'discussion' tab or ask at: Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance).
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==Elam== All is in readiness for the change to BCE/CE for this article. The survey has been taken and tallied (see survey results). Jguk will revert at his peril. However, someone has to make the change. Would you have the time to do it?
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Yes, thanks, I just noticed that. Perhaps he can bring his quote down here so we can evaluate it. *
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Hi, Raul654! I'm so glad to be back! I can't wait to start correcting mistakes! Let's work together, buddy!
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[Typical Raul654 tactic here, I said the Hubble was used to observe the Earth. - ]
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Italian Renaissance as a featured article == Before getting to the substance of my comment, let me just thank you for all the work you've done for Wikipedia; users like you are such an asset to the project. I do have one minor critique to make, though... I noticed that you promoted Italian Renaissance to featured status, but at the time, I had an actionable (and in my view appropriate) objection. (Candidate page, with my comments) I objected to elevation to featured status on the grounds that there are stylistic issues in the article, missing commas, etc. I went through the first half, but haven't had time to fix the second half. At any rate, you probably just didn't see my objection; I'll do more to address it myself, but the style isn't up to par for our (rightly) high standards for featured articles. ==
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:: Too late Gamaliel has threatend a revert war on Joe Scarborough. Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gamaliel#Joe_Scarbourough
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A Letter to Wikipedia Dear Wikipedia, Why no one want edit this article. This book does exists. Please, I want see changes in this article. Sincerely, ````
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== Chemical Abortion == Anon changed this section to: Chemical abortion, which comprises 10% of all abortions in the United States and Europe, is a method used to induce abortion by ingesting drugs, usually during the first nine weeks of pregnancy. Chemical abortion is accomplished by administering either methotrexate or mifepristone (RU-486) followed by administration of misoprostol. Approximately eight percent of these abortions require surgical follow-up, usually by vacuum aspiration (See below). Methotrexate may also treat undiagnosed or concomitant tubal pregnancies, or assist women who have spontaneously aborted. A common misconception is that emergency contraception, commonly known as the Morning-after pill, sold under the brand name Plan B, causes an abortion. This is medically inaccurate, since emergency contraception only works before pregnancy begins. Pharmacologically, emergency contraception is identical to ordinary hormonal contraceptives, and work to prevent pregnancy by delaying ovulation, inhibiting sperm motility, and possibly by making the uterine lining less hospitible to implantation. Emergency contraception has no effect on an existing pregnancy, and must be taken within 120 hours of unprotected intercourse, though it is most effective if taken as soon as possible. Intrauterine devices, also known as IUD's, can be used to prevent pregnancy after unprotected intercourse as well. Not going to RV this one because of WP:3RR, but I think it needs work. The content is pretty good, but the prose needs to be neutralized.
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SUCK MY PLUMS YOU STUPID SEPTIC CUNT
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:I didn't call you a Yank. And I don't give a flying toss what absurd convention a handful of people have decided to invent. —
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==Another RFC against you== I have requested an RFC against you. See
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==RFC Against Gamaliel, Rhobite, and Ruy_Lopez]] I have requested RFC against these three for revert warring, personal attacks, and POV pushing. See it at .
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:Ah. My point in the second paragraph, which I failed to actually state, was that even if there was any cross-pollination going on, that particular OrthodoxWiki article can be presumed to be Creative Commons licensed in the absence of any other notice. So if we have taken any content from it — I don't believe we have but if we have — we're still safe. ''''
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==RFC Against Gamaliel]] You might want to comment on this:
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== Fatima bint Asad == I noticed you added a large chunk to this article recently. Could you post your sources (webpages, books, etc.)? It would be really helpful. Thanks.
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` ::::I reverted the last two edits as they are the same copyvio as before. There appears to be minimal (any?) rewording...I found this right away with the search term ``bore the brunt of all sorts of catastrophes``. `
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== Fatima bint Asad == I rv Striver's last two edits. It was a copyvio. I posted an explanation and the site he got it from on the talk page.
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:I think you'd be interested in Universaliss's (the various anon users) talk page. Especially Dmcdevit's conclusion that Universaliss's comments on the Qiyamah talk page were somehow...acceptable...
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== WikiProject == Hi! I wonder if this guild is anything that you may benefit from, and in that case, feel invited to sign in ) Wikipedia:WikiProject Conspiracy: The World Conspiracy Guild Have a good day )
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wow the guy who deleated the stuff on the Habbo NSM is leet. 88!
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` I'm confused by the statement ``Up to 95% of the freemartin's blood cells can be derived from those of its twin brother``. At birth? Throughout it's life? Aren't new blood cells generated from bones/bone-marrow? Or just red blood cells. Please clarify. Thanks! `
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== Gannon == Man, you guys are total pussies when it comes to Jeff Gannon. Is he your boyfriend or something?
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` == Santa Claus == About to remove this bit: :In popular mythology, Santa Claus resides at the geographic North Pole. Canada Post has assigned postal code H0H 0H0 to the North Pole. It doesn't really fit well with the rest of the article, unless there was enough other material for a proper section on ``culture``. The place for this information is in the Santa Claus article, but I note that in that article it actually says that ``traditions vary``. `
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== The section on the barzakh does not belong in this article == The barzakh, or life in the grave precedes the day of judgement and is not part of it. For this reason, it is off-topic for this article.
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The article is NOT about the afterlife. The afterlife includes several parts: life in the grave, the day of judgement and then life in paradise or hell. This article is only a survey of the Muslim narrative of the Day of Judgement, not an article about the afterlife in general.
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` == non-NPOV + inaccurate information == Regarding the piece of text ``Since most of those hadith are on the authority of Abu Huraira, most Shia dismiss them as a sad examples of what happens when all Sahaba are counted as trustworthy: A clear breach in Tawhid, the belief that God is above its creation.`` Reasons for removal: * Abu Huraira is one of the most prolific muhaddithin and a source of many of the sahih hadith. * The phrase ``most shia`` does not cite any authority or text and could therefore be completely fabricated. Not to mention that there are over a dozen subsects among the shi`a. * ``sad examples of what happens`` <- that's a non-NPOV (non-Neutral Point Of View) * See God as one sees the full moon or the sun in the sky. Or seeing part of God on the day of judgement is not a contradiction that God is above His (not ``its``) creatures in every respect.`
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` == non-NPOV + inaccurate information == Regarding the piece of text ``Since most of those hadith are on the authority of Abu Huraira, most Shia dismiss them as a sad examples of what happens when all Sahaba are counted as trustworthy: A clear breach in Tawhid, the belief that God is above its creation.`` Reasons for removal: * Abu Huraira is one of the most prolific muhaddithin and a source of many of the sahih hadith. * The phrase ``most shia`` does not cite any authority or text and could therefore be completely fabricated. Not to mention that there are over a dozen subsects among the shi`a. * ``sad examples of what happens`` <- that's a non-NPOV (non-Neutral Point Of View) * See God as one sees the full moon or the sun in the sky. Or seeing part of God on the day of judgement is not a contradiction that God is above His (not ``its``) creatures in every respect. `
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` == The Mahdi and ad-Dajjal section is off topic for this article== This section deals with events that precede the day of judgement and are outside the scope of the article, which is only a survey of the Muslim narrative of the Day of Judgement. == non-NPOV + inaccurate information == Regarding the piece of text ``Since most of those hadith are on the authority of Abu Huraira, most Shia dismiss them as a sad examples of what happens when all Sahaba are counted as trustworthy: A clear breach in Tawhid, the belief that God is above its creation.`` Reasons for removal: * Abu Huraira is one of the most prolific muhaddithin and a source of many of the sahih hadith. * The phrase ``most shia`` does not cite any authority or text and could therefore be completely fabricated. Not to mention that there are over a dozen subsects among the shi`a. * ``sad examples of what happens`` <- that's a non-NPOV (non-Neutral Point Of View) * See God as one sees the full moon or the sun in the sky. Or seeing part of God on the day of judgement is not a contradiction that God is above His (not ``its``) creatures in every respect. `
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==Leggings== Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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` : your reply from my talk page: OOps, no — I just looked at the User page, saw that it was a bot, and added the designation. Sorry, I think you misunderstood. I wasn't saying this was an oops. FlaBot is a bot. I was simply offering an explanation of how the bot indication was missing. I think it is appropriate for the edits from this account to be marked as ``bot edits``. Thanks for doing it. `
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:Regarding sections 9 and 10, I have no problem with reducing them in size, but they should be noted as they still have a connection to Qiyamah, even if they precede it. Section 11 is part of Qiyamah, a major part. As to Abu Huraira... take that up with , he added it, and I feel no particular affinity for it.
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==Qiyamah== I have been having a huge amount of trouble with a vandal ( on the Qiyamah page. I ask that he, and every other sockpuppet he uses be banned, and the page protected. Dmcdevit was previously contacted but has refused to take any action thus far. For more information see the Qiyamah talk page, Universaliss's talk page, and my talk page. Thank you for your time.
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:Uh....doesnt his personal attacks towards Zora go under the category of vandalism? or his last ten edits which i reverted as they simply were a several month old version of the page? Thanks.
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Why should we users have to create a user name or log in to avoid seeing this rubbish? If I have the same IP as someone else then it is not my problem!!! Sort it out!
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:I understand 172, Trey Stone is a patriot. He is proud of the murders his country has committed. He has consistently reverted the La Prensa page without giving any reason for doing so. Patriotism is a disease.
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:Ok American, I am back, and this time I mean business. You will either enter into discussion or you WILL be reported.
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. == American Patriotism == Is simply Jingoism disguised
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:The page alternates between present and past tense. This needs to all be in present.
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This has to be one of the most unprofessional companies I've ever seen. Their commercials make the company look like a huge joke. Who would buy insurance from these people?
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Here is my proposed changes to the opening paragraph of this article: Big Bang is the idea that the universe was created by the explosion of an object with no volume containing the entire universe. Believers in big bang cite calculated redshifts of celestial objects as evidence that virtually everything in the universe is moving rapidly away from the Earth. Some proponents of big bang believe that space itself expands, but it is unclear what definition of space even allows for this possibility.
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::I take it back. Go ahead and vandalize this page as much you want. Ill no longer revert any of it. Its not like anyone is going to stop u anyway.
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==Thanks== Thank you for your attention, I can assure you I have no intention of using wikipedia to cause trouble. I just want to correct mistakes, like all good users.
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Adaptive Optics A membrane mirror assembly is described that has a membrane deflected by a region of electrostatic actuators, consisting of conducting pads. The procedure for fabrication of typical membranes is described and involves evaporation of the material onto a substrate in a vacuum chamber. Parametric equations, developed from basic vibration theory, are given for establishing transient and steady-state performance criteria. Experimental data, using both titanium and nickel test membranes, shows that the performance satisfies the predicted requirements.
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==Conducting Pad Actuators in Membrane Mirrors
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==Lots More Abstracts== Smithsonian/NASA Astrophysics Data System (ADS) Query Results from the Instrumentation Database Retrieved 100 abstracts, starting with number 1. Total number selected: 637550. - # Bibcode Score Date List of Links Authors Title Access Control Help 1 1977OSAJ...67..399G 1.000 03/1977 A C U Grosso, R. P.; Yellin, M. The membrane mirror as an adaptive optical element 2 1976SPIE...75...97Y 0.456 00/1976 A T M Yellin, M. Using membrane mirrors in adaptive optics 3 1993SPIE.1945..421M 0.367 11/1993 A T M U Miller, Linda M.; Agronin, Michael L.; Bartman, Randall K.; Kaiser, William J.; Kenny, Thomas W.; Norton, Robert L.; Vote, Erika C. Fabrication and characterization of a micromachined deformable mirror for adaptive optics applications 4 1991SPIE.1542..165C 0.331 12/1991 A T M C Clampin, M.; Durrance, S. T.; Golimowski, D. A.; Barkhouser, R. H. The Johns Hopkins Adaptive Optics Coronagraph 5 2000SPIE.4091...83Y 0.322 10/2000 A T M U Yang, Eui-Hyeok; Wiberg, Dean V.; Dekany, Richard G. Design and fabrication of electrostatic actuators with corrugated membranes for MEMS deformable mirror in space 6 2000SPIE.4075...41R 0.321 09/2000 A T M U Ross, Alan W.; Graham, Stephen C.; Gundlach, Alan M.; Stevenson, J. Tom M.; Hossack, William J.; Vass, David G.; Bodammer, Georg; Smith, Euan; Ward, Kevin Microfabrication and packaging of deformable mirror devices 7 1994SPIE.2201..762T 0.315 05/1994 A T M C U Takami, Hideki; Iye, Masanori Membrane deformable mirror for SUBARU adaptive optics 8 1999SPIE.3785..160W 0.315 10/1999 A T M Winsor, Robert S.; Sivaramakrishnan, Anand; Makidon, Russell B. Finite element analysis of low-cost membrane deformable mirrors for high-order adaptive optics 9 2000SPIE.4348..348B 0.302 02/2000 A T M Borovkov, Alexei I.; Pyatishev, Evgenij N.; Lurie, Mihail S.; Korshunov, Andrey V.; Akulshin, Y. D.; Dolganov, A. G.; Sabadash, V. O. Micronozzles: 3D numerical structural and gas dynamics modeling, fabrication, and preliminary experimental results 10 1999SPIE.3591..137Z 0.298 06/1999 A T M Zhu, Lijun; Sun, Pang Chen; Bartsch, Dirk-Uwe G.; Freeman, William R.; Fainman, Yeshaiahu Adaptive fundus imaging using a micromachined membrane deformable mirror 11 2001SPIE.4327...13W 0.297 08/2001 A T M C Wagner, John W.; Agnes, Gregory S. Optical metrology of adaptive membrane mirrors 12 2002OptEn..41..561P 0.297 03/2002 A E F R U Perreault, Julie A.; Bifano, Thomas G.; Levine, Bruce M.; Horenstein, Mark N. Adaptive optic
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== Gay Icon? == I just don't see how Verdon is a gay icon. Am I missing something? Roxieandmartha 6/30/05
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What the fuck are you talking about!?
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There's a good test of big bang. Big bang predicts that the universe is finite. Where are the edges of it?
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:I am aware of that policy. So I was pointing it out to Zora who had initiated rudeness in the edit history comments. Did you also leave the same note for Zora?
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==Zodiac Death== Oh dear. Tapwave has dropped support. Zodiac, may you rest in peace. We barely knew ye.
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== User page == I love your user page. I hope you get a humour barnstar. You really do make wikipedia more lighthearted. Thank you for a very amusing and creative user page. My congratulations to you.
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:::Yo, fast fact! When a user clicks on a photo/image that is thumbnailed, they expect to see a bigger, higher resolution version that actually shows them what is going on. Not something the size of a postage stamp. Please compare: :::* Image:Frankfurd_PKK_protests_after_the_capture_of_PKK_leader.jpg :::* Image:Hamburg_PKK_protests_after_the_capture_of_PKK_leader.jpg :::* Image:Ottawa_PKK_protests_after_the_capture_of_PKK_leader1.jpg :::With... :::* Image:Pkk_supporters_london_april_2003.jpg :::With the top three images it isn't even clear that the people protesting/rioting are pro-PKK at all. They could be anyone. The copyright status of the top three images is unclear. I'd say of all of them, the Ottawa one is the best, but don't you have a higher resolution version? I would prefer that you remove my photo from the article in the name of NPOV than add other low quality ones in the name of NPOV.
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If you look at Ni-ju-Ichi's first edit, you'll see it was to this article Eyeshield_21_%28anime%29. If you look at the history of this article, you'll see that the only other user to edit it was . I think it is very clear that he is a sock of Existentializer/enviroknot.
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` *How is ``I am lying now`` both true and false??? It is a meta-reference, however, as I stated later in the article. `
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== Dawood Ibrahim == The debate over whether to have the NPOV tag has ended. I made some minor changes and all parties agreed that it had been neutralized. Thanks for your input nonetheless.
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::That didnt make sense to me either. It's Arabic but I can hardly see how it would be considered specifically Islamic.
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The same goes for Ibn.
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` :::You are a half-turk, half-arab with no roots who can't even speak or write Persian like a native (even in short expressions it is obvious in your case) who has no real roots in Iran and all your edits have been about image and fooling yourself about your fantasy of the bogus identity that you have created for yoruself in your mind. Nearly all your ``contributions`` to Wikipedia have been about promoting your fake image, especially your uncultured fucking Qajar turks and your lizzard-munching arab ancestors and basically, your ``contributions`` can be summed up as ``fake image with pretty pictures`` (may i say that the pictures are not nearly as ``pretty`` as you think, by the way?). Also, your behaviour in Wikipedia clearly shows the half-Arab/half-Turkish blood. You act exactly, 100% like a half-arab/half-turk boor, with ZERO tolerance and respect for others and ZERO sense of compromise and ZERO sign of culture or civility. Last but not least, if you think the Khums financial aid and social programmes for the Sayyeds is not true, and if you have even one single cell of brain in your vacuous cramium, why don't you ask yoruself then what exactly ``Sahme Sadaat`` part of the Khums means? Does it mean ``portion for the movie stars``?! You really ARE dumb, aren't you? And if you still have doubts, since you are from a mullah, sayyed family, I am sure you know that you can write to any of the ayatollahls offices or the howza and ask them any question you want. Simply ask them what ``Sahme Sadaat`` portion of the Khums exactly means. :::Last but not least, the Persian Art picture that you have uploaded, you have characterized it as ``the artist mixes blah blah with Qajar art`` ... that is 100% bullshit. Can you provide a link that says the artist has indeed made such claim? That is YOUR claim, because you are from a fucking Qajar turk family. I will change it unless you can provide a reliable link that supports that claim (i.e., it must clearly show that the artist has made such a claim).`
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`; otherwise, what you are doing is again a sign of your turkish/arab uncivility that you allow yourself to characterize an artist's art for her to suit your fake ``identity``.`
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` ==Blocking me== I dont understand you're motivation for blocking me. You say I made personal attacks and the link I followed was the Qiyamah talk page..I presume you mean my comment that Universaliss was vandalizing it. Im not sure if you were confused or simply refrained from viewing his last two edits. His last two edits were what motivated me to my accusation. He replaced the page with utter nonsense. After you blocked me you didnt even rv his vandalism! I assume your decision to block me was an accident...but it does seem suspect...especially considering your recent and persistent need to engage me in convos which really dont concern you (Woohookity and that vfd consensus). I read your comment at southerncomfort's talkpage and I think you should know that I have not mislead her as i have never talked to this user. You said you blocked universaliss for a week...do you mean you blocked him/her yesterday and this will last for a week? No matter. I simply want that user to stop 1. reverting to old-outdated versions of the page which contain grammatical and technical inaccuracies, 2. stop the personal attacks, and religious attacks (towards Protestants, Jews, and Ahmadis), 3.and stop deleting information that he/she disagrees with. I really dont think this is asking that much. In terms of diffusing the situation...I tried to add in a passage that all parties could agree to. His response was too massively delete info in various sections and add in comments like ``you fucking troll``. `
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==Mirror Vax== After looking at the link you sent me, it seems that our friend is rather unrepentant, to say the least. Thanks for the compliment, BTW. I just get a little steamed when someone comes from nowhere and reams me out on what is literally a world stage and not offer any apologies. Would you be so kind as to keep me posted on this matter? -
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:Do you mean people with interest in the occult, or critics of the occult? If the former, that doesn't quite fit my experience. If you mean the latter, what did you expect? I suggest you write a neutral description of the con-man view and those who hold it, citing sources.
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Dylan's a pedophile.
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As it's been a week, I've made the edits - the section was getting out of hand and becoming an essay. The revision I've put in place is probably a little tainted by my own POV, but frankly, I still think it's a silly argument and really ought to be removed totally.
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==Controversial section on people born in Kaaba== Regarding the new section that's been dumped here: *Firstly, it's not well presented; just a list of names and external links. *Some of the the external links appear to be pro-Shia/Sunni websites; nothing wrong with this per se, just that some of them appear to be unreliable (no sources given in them). I'm going to remove some of them, if enough people agree on this (I'll wait a week). *The whole issue of who was born in the Kaaba seems to be controversial. The section should go a little deeper into this. For example, where did the controversy come from ? Is it just a manifestation of the Sunni/Shia split or something else ?
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== Flip! == I didnt know xiphon was you, peter. That message scared the hell out of me, I thought it was another user who spotted the page. I swore loudly at the screen.
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` I was just sitting there, not doing a damn thing mind you, just quietly contemplating an inside story, when:1. a 10 year girl who was playing outside with her big sister on the trampoleen, said ``hey! whats that?`` 2. I ignored her, totally taken with the piece of chocolate in my hand, then I heard the word ``tree`` a few seconds later. 3. I crunched up my knees into a fetal postition and made sure my head was not visible while the little girl tried to show her sister what she had seen. 4. `` Hey! There is a man in the tree!`` Then a 13 year old boy who was playing hockey in the garden said: ``I cant see his face!``. 5 I quietly uttered a prayer of thanks for this. 6. Another girl about 15 years of age approaches and they all together start yelling things like: ``Thats funny!`` from little girl whom I had just recently seen dancing with headphones on in her sisters room. `` Waah! Hes too scared to come down!`` from the 13yr turd. In addition to many other jeers and such. 7. They carried on with their game while I developed cramp and was looking for a way to get down soon to relieve my discomfort. They occasionally ventured a glance in my direction. 8. After ten minutes, I started my descent as quickly as possible. `` Hey! Its a boy!`` from that darn little girl. I climbed faster and faster. 9. I fled into forest, squealing like a pansy. 10. I hung about watching the tree to see if they were going to come near. They did not. I trod in dog faeces as I climbed into the car 15 minutes later. I am sure that they do not know of the paltform. Still, I suggest that we steer well clear of it for a week or two. Then do some serious camophlage work. I must make it clear that, although I take responsiblity for this mishap. I did nothing to attract their attention. This all happened on thursday the 28th. Cheers and by the way, welcome to Wikipedia!`
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:Thanks for pointing that out.
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` == Some factual background on the subject that might speak to the credibility of the idea == 'Logan Darrow' is actually Doug 'Logan Darrow' Clements. He added the Logan Darrow to his name a few years ago. After graduating from University of Rochester's MBA program in the late 80s, he went to the Pacific Northwest and tried a corporate job for about 6 months before departing. He started a magazine, American Venture Capital Exchange, that had a modest amount of success matching entrepreneurs with investors. He sold the magazine a few years ago and since then he has been trying to get his TV show, The Lexington League, off the ground. In my opinion, The Lexington League is basically a free-market, pro-liberty version of 60 Minutes. Doug will disagree and point out the subtle ways that it is different. I won't dispute the differences but I do think they are subtle. He ran for CA governor in the recall election in order to generate publicity for his TV show. He finished 5th from the bottom. Fast forward to late June of this year. I sent an email to approximately 6 of my buddies, including Doug, suggesting that we use eminent domain to take Souter's house from him in order to tear it down and erect a mansion, which would be assessed and taxed at a higher rate. I later morphed this idea to be a bed and breakfast. In the email, I specifically referenced getting another of my friends involved because he is one of the country's leading experts on property rights and takings. Doug sent me an email saying that it was a great idea and I would receive ``100% of the credit`` (not that I want or need the credit). He created the press release and sent it out and after being interviewed on about 10 radio shows and getting 380,000 hits on his website, he sent me another email acknowledging his indebtedness to me for the idea. However, he has avoided any public acknowledgement that the idea was anyone's except his own and he has declined to take advantage of my contacts including the aforementioned attorney as well as a friend of a friend who is a real estate developer. This leads me to believe that he is not serious about the use of eminent domain against Souter and he is really interested in getting people to mail him money and increasing the public's awareness of his TV show. This is my conclusion. You are welcome to draw your own.`
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:Now I understand. I think the recent spur of anon vandalism is actually two users as one user seems to have an IP with a number around 62-70 whereas another user seems to be around 212. Maybe a vandal-collaboration? I think (temporarily) it would be a good idea to protect the page. Any objections?
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