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I don't know. I don't know. Getting more New Wave as the days go by. I think we're going to reinvent New Wave and bring back breakdancing. I'd really like to bring back New Wave.
i don't know. i don't know. getting more new wave as the days go by. i think we're going to reinvent new wave and bring back breakdancing. i'd really like to bring back new wave.
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I don't know. That's what our new music is sounding like. We're using a lot more effects boxes and we're.
i don't know. that's what our new music is sounding like. we're using a lot more effects boxes and we're.
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We haven't resorted to skinny ties, but we're gonna, I think we're, our music's. You know, this sounds like the closing of the chapter of the formula we've been using, you know? It's like grunge is really kind of boring.
we haven't resorted to skinny ties, but we're gonna, i think we're, our music's. you know, this sounds like the closing of the chapter of the formula we've been using, you know? it's like grunge is really kind of boring.
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us and something we can't deny and we're not going to.
us and something we can't deny and we're not going to.
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Stop playing the old songs live. Whoops.
stop playing the old songs live. whoops.
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And our tastes are just changing so rapidly that we're just.
and our tastes are just changing so rapidly that we're just.
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experimenting with a lot of stuff and it might get too indulgent.
experimenting with a lot of stuff and it might get too indulgent.
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be really embarrassing for the next album, but we can't put out another album and this is just like the last chapter of three chord grunge.
be really embarrassing for the next album, but we can't put out another album and this is just like the last chapter of three chord grunge.
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And it was an easy thing to do and a safe thing to do because we knew it's still popular, you know. We had to get it out of our systems. Well, I don't know. You've never met me. It just depends on what mood I'm in, really. I'm kind of a moody person and a lot of times when someone has had the chance to talk to me, I've probably been on tour or I've probably gone through an exhaustive time where I've talked about myself for hours and hours. And this week I haven't had to talk about myself very much. By writing songs as blunt as rape me.
and it was an easy thing to do and a safe thing to do because we knew it's still popular, you know. we had to get it out of our systems. well, i don't know. you've never met me. it just depends on what mood i'm in, really. i'm kind of a moody person and a lot of times when someone has had the chance to talk to me, i've probably been on tour or i've probably gone through an exhaustive time where i've talked about myself for hours and hours. and this week i haven't had to talk about myself very much. by writing songs as blunt as rape me.
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Having to resort to doing something like that is almost embarrassing because people didn't understand when we wrote a song like about a girl or Polly and having to explain that and having misunderstandings about it, it's just, I decided to write Rape Me in a way that was just so blunt and obvious that it's like no one could hear it.
having to resort to doing something like that is almost embarrassing because people didn't understand when we wrote a song like about a girl or polly and having to explain that and having misunderstandings about it, it's just, i decided to write rape me in a way that was just so blunt and obvious that it's like no one could hear it.
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No one could read into it any other way.
no one could read into it any other way.
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Although some people have actually because.
although some people have actually because.
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some of the lyrics in it. Some people have thought that maybe.
some of the lyrics in it. some people have thought that maybe.
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It has something to do with my disgust with the media and the way they've treated us and stuff like that, but it's not true.
it has something to do with my disgust with the media and the way they've treated us and stuff like that, but it's not true.
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It's just my way of, in a sarcastic way almost, of like.
it's just my way of, in a sarcastic way almost, of like.
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I guess we don't talk about those kind of things.
i guess we don't talk about those kind of things.
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that are really important to us because I don't want to be thought of as like nothing more than a PC band, you know? I mean, we're entertainers.
that are really important to us because i don't want to be thought of as like nothing more than a pc band, you know? i mean, we're entertainers.
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You know, that's what music is. And so it's really hard to step over the lines. Yeah.
you know, that's what music is. and so it's really hard to step over the lines. yeah.
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Well, we try to use our power. I mean, we really have been effective in certain ways.
well, we try to use our power. i mean, we really have been effective in certain ways.
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being associated with this organization called FAIR. And I can't remember it right now because I have a mental block of exactly what it stands for. Something like, um.
being associated with this organization called fair. and i can't remember it right now because i have a mental block of exactly what it stands for. something like, um.
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but they're an organization who looks at the injustices that are.
but they're an organization who looks at the injustices that are.
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They look at the details that surround certain issues and certain stories that have been reported in magazines and newspapers like USA Today who tend to look over a lot of the facts. And I think that's really important.
they look at the details that surround certain issues and certain stories that have been reported in magazines and newspapers like usa today who tend to look over a lot of the facts. and i think that's really important.
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They're pretty much a leftist organization that tries to protect people in certain areas, and they supposedly try as hard as they can to deliver the truth. We've done benefits like that for like no online benefits to try to stop Portland's anti gay laws that they were trying to pass, and we did a Bosnian benefit, stuff like that. It doesn't seem like much, but we raised like zero euro fifty cents,zero for the Bosnian rape victims, and that's a lot more than we could have done griping about it and talking about it in interviews and like maybe putting out a fanzine, you know. There's nothing wrong with doing stuff like that, but we're using our.
they're pretty much a leftist organization that tries to protect people in certain areas, and they supposedly try as hard as they can to deliver the truth. we've done benefits like that for like no online benefits to try to stop portland's anti gay laws that they were trying to pass, and we did a bosnian benefit, stuff like that. it doesn't seem like much, but we raised like zero euro fifty cents,zero for the bosnian rape victims, and that's a lot more than we could have done griping about it and talking about it in interviews and like maybe putting out a fanzine, you know. there's nothing wrong with doing stuff like that, but we're using our.
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we're being effective as much as we can. But we still don't want to be too political at the same time.
we're being effective as much as we can. but we still don't want to be too political at the same time.
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It's just kind of embarrassing to do that. Or, you know, you get a lot of ridicule for it. It's hard not to. I mean, if you're put in this position, what are you going to do? You become a Republican or something?
it's just kind of embarrassing to do that. or, you know, you get a lot of ridicule for it. it's hard not to. i mean, if you're put in this position, what are you going to do? you become a republican or something?
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I kinda wish they did, because there's so many comparisons to us, you know? Um, I have to be honest, I really.
i kinda wish they did, because there's so many comparisons to us, you know? um, i have to be honest, i really.
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didn't like the replacements when I was in the.
didn't like the replacements when i was in the.
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punk rock music, I'd listen to them.
punk rock music, i'd listen to them.
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I mean, I like the sound of it, and I don't know if that's.
i mean, i like the sound of it, and i don't know if that's.
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I think my appreciation for REM and The Beatles and stuff like that had more to do with it because I really wasn't aware of Soul Asylum and The Replacements and those bands. I mean I knew about them and I actually saw them live and stuff and I just didn't know about them.
i think my appreciation for rem and the beatles and stuff like that had more to do with it because i really wasn't aware of soul asylum and the replacements and those bands. i mean i knew about them and i actually saw them live and stuff and i just didn't know about them.
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I didn't like it that much. Well, it's an obvious thing to happen.
i didn't like it that much. well, it's an obvious thing to happen.
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Oh, oh, I thought you were talking about the Musac from, that they, this Musac record that they put out of Grunge Light. Let's see.
oh, oh, i thought you were talking about the musac from, that they, this musac record that they put out of grunge light. let's see.
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obvious thing to happen. It's the last.
obvious thing to happen. it's the last.
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The Musac Capital. That's where. so this is the place where most Musac comes from? I didn't even know that. I thought there was just, you know, one station here.
the musac capital. that's where. so this is the place where most musac comes from? i didn't even know that. i thought there was just, you know, one station here.
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We have some pretty songs too. God, that's really a bummer. That upsets me. But I don't know, Muzak, that's pretty neat. Oh yeah, I like that idea better too. Yeah, I liked it when Devo did their Muzak version of theirs. I think they used real musicians for that. No, never met them. Yeah.
we have some pretty songs too. god, that's really a bummer. that upsets me. but i don't know, muzak, that's pretty neat. oh yeah, i like that idea better too. yeah, i liked it when devo did their muzak version of theirs. i think they used real musicians for that. no, never met them. yeah.
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of being a rock and roll star. But no, actually I met Iggy Pop before we were rock and roll stars. Iggy Pop is pretty much the only person that I've met that I really, really admire.
of being a rock and roll star. but no, actually i met iggy pop before we were rock and roll stars. iggy pop is pretty much the only person that i've met that i really, really admire.
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It was great. I didn't ask him for an autograph.
it was great. i didn't ask him for an autograph.
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I tried not to bother him the way that I thought that I might be bothered. And then the other person is William Burroughs. I met him and I actually got to put out a record with him. Well, it's already out. It's just a ten inch. It's just one story of his. Called the priest, they called him. And I just took it.
i tried not to bother him the way that i thought that i might be bothered. and then the other person is william burroughs. i met him and i actually got to put out a record with him. well, it's already out. it's just a ten inch. it's just one story of his. called the priest, they called him. and i just took it.
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It was a long distance recording. He had recorded his version and then I just played a bunch of guitar noises in the background and they mixed it somewhere else and it came out.
it was a long distance recording. he had recorded his version and then i just played a bunch of guitar noises in the background and they mixed it somewhere else and it came out.
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And so it was just, you know, fucking off like I did before. You know, it was just a last minute thing where I just made a bunch of noise, but this time I'd let it go.
and so it was just, you know, fucking off like i did before. you know, it was just a last minute thing where i just made a bunch of noise, but this time i'd let it go.
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Maybe I'll do a music version. Well, it served a purpose because we used that.
maybe i'll do a music version. well, it served a purpose because we used that.
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as the opening before we came out, we'd play that. It was nice. You know, a couple of years ago when we were making these bold negative statements about things like that, you know, we were really confused and scared. We were afraid that we would lose a lot of our audience that meant a lot to us because they're people that.
as the opening before we came out, we'd play that. it was nice. you know, a couple of years ago when we were making these bold negative statements about things like that, you know, we were really confused and scared. we were afraid that we would lose a lot of our audience that meant a lot to us because they're people that.
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hopefully feel that we have a connection with, you know, the college students and people in the underground. I don't think we've lost that.
hopefully feel that we have a connection with, you know, the college students and people in the underground. i don't think we've lost that.
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I think they're still fans, so I'm not worried about it at all.
i think they're still fans, so i'm not worried about it at all.
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Attention, this is Kurt from Nirvana.
attention, this is kurt from nirvana.
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Chris and I have been playing together for about.
chris and i have been playing together for about.
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with a few different drummers. And Dave has been in the band for a year. This is the first time we've ever felt like a very definite unit.
with a few different drummers. and dave has been in the band for a year. this is the first time we've ever felt like a very definite unit.
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the band is finally complete because all the other drummers we had.
the band is finally complete because all the other drummers we had.
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I've been writing songs since I was about fifteen, since I first bought my first guitar.
i've been writing songs since i was about fifteen, since i first bought my first guitar.
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Dave and Chris never thought of themselves as songwriters. They've never had that.
dave and chris never thought of themselves as songwriters. they've never had that.
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but we're collaborating a lot more. I usually come up with a basic idea for a song and then we go into a practice room and play the song over and over and over again until it's finally finished. So it is pretty collective.
but we're collaborating a lot more. i usually come up with a basic idea for a song and then we go into a practice room and play the song over and over and over again until it's finally finished. so it is pretty collective.
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We're musicians. We like music.
we're musicians. we like music.
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Appreciate all different kinds of music as long as it's good doesn't matter if it's on a major label doesn't matter if it's a band.
appreciate all different kinds of music as long as it's good doesn't matter if it's on a major label doesn't matter if it's a band.
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boom box or a recorder like this, it doesn't matter.
boom box or a recorder like this, it doesn't matter.
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It doesn't even matter if someone hasn't even recorded something, to even have it distributed to anyone. If it's good, it's good. We just like it.
it doesn't even matter if someone hasn't even recorded something, to even have it distributed to anyone. if it's good, it's good. we just like it.
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A lot of times before a show we're scrambling for a.
a lot of times before a show we're scrambling for a.
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guitar parts and gluing things together just to have a guitar for that night. We'd be just as happy playing.
guitar parts and gluing things together just to have a guitar for that night. we'd be just as happy playing.
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in a basement, you know, sometimes that's the most that's the most appreciative time we have with music is just.
in a basement, you know, sometimes that's the most that's the most appreciative time we have with music is just.
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Being together, because we're good friends, and we play music. Sometimes we just get drunk, you know?
being together, because we're good friends, and we play music. sometimes we just get drunk, you know?
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We want to have fun and it's really boring to be in.
we want to have fun and it's really boring to be in.
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on tour for three months and be in the same kind of hotel.
on tour for three months and be in the same kind of hotel.
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same hotels and the same backstage areas and playing your show.
same hotels and the same backstage areas and playing your show.
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And then just going straight to the hotel afterwards to sleep and then start it all over again and not eating regularly and driving on a bus for eight hours a day. It's really boring.
and then just going straight to the hotel afterwards to sleep and then start it all over again and not eating regularly and driving on a bus for eight hours a day. it's really boring.
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And so we do everything in our power to keep it exciting. And sometimes that involves.
and so we do everything in our power to keep it exciting. and sometimes that involves.
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ninety percent I mean every time we've ever destroyed something we've always been in a really happy joking mood.
ninety percent i mean every time we've ever destroyed something we've always been in a really happy joking mood.
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where we're drunk off our asses and then throwing things around and wrestling and having fun, you know?
where we're drunk off our asses and then throwing things around and wrestling and having fun, you know?
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I don't give a shit if it's cliche or not or if it's been done by bands before.
i don't give a shit if it's cliche or not or if it's been done by bands before.
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Any rock and roll band has those tendencies to do stuff like that just to keep themselves sane.
any rock and roll band has those tendencies to do stuff like that just to keep themselves sane.
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We appreciate beauty just as much as we appreciate violence. We don't even appreciate violence.
we appreciate beauty just as much as we appreciate violence. we don't even appreciate violence.
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Obviously it's an emotion, it's just another part of emotion.
obviously it's an emotion, it's just another part of emotion.
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negative energy. We'd like to divide those two.
negative energy. we'd like to divide those two.
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This is the update on Studio Brussel. Because we sleep too much. Sloppy as you want, as long as it's good.
this is the update on studio brussel. because we sleep too much. sloppy as you want, as long as it's good.
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I'm going to share some new tunes with you and everyone else.
i'm going to share some new tunes with you and everyone else.
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I just wrote most of the lyrics this evening.
i just wrote most of the lyrics this evening.
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So yeah, that's what I did and I just thought I would do it.
so yeah, that's what i did and i just thought i would do it.
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Oh, this song's called Opinion. Don't you think that song sounds like Taxman? I'm your bonus new album. And it's called Lithium, and I'll play it.
oh, this song's called opinion. don't you think that song sounds like taxman? i'm your bonus new album. and it's called lithium, and i'll play it.
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I was born in Aberdeen, Washington, and I lived between Aberdeen and Montesano, which is twenty miles away. Montesano. M O N T E S A N O. And I moved back and forth between relatives' house throughout my childhood.
i was born in aberdeen, washington, and i lived between aberdeen and montesano, which is twenty miles away. montesano. m o n t e s a n o. and i moved back and forth between relatives' house throughout my childhood.
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Yeah, I remember feeling ashamed for some reason. I was ashamed of my parents. I couldn't face some of my friends at school.
yeah, i remember feeling ashamed for some reason. i was ashamed of my parents. i couldn't face some of my friends at school.
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classes, you know, typical family, mother, father. I wanted that security. So I resented my parents for.
classes, you know, typical family, mother, father. i wanted that security. so i resented my parents for.
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quite a few years. I've always kept a relationship with my mom.
quite a few years. i've always kept a relationship with my mom.
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because she's always been the more affectionate one. Father, I'm.
because she's always been the more affectionate one. father, i'm.
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I haven't talked to him for about ten years now, up until this last year, where he was.
i haven't talked to him for about ten years now, up until this last year, where he was.
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This freaked me out.
this freaked me out.
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Yeah. And for a long time I had to.
yeah. and for a long time i had to.
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I always wanted him to know that I don't hate him anymore.
i always wanted him to know that i don't hate him anymore.
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I don't want to have a relationship with a person that.
i don't want to have a relationship with a person that.
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just because they're my blood relative, they bore me.
just because they're my blood relative, they bore me.
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or even carry on a conversation. So just.
or even carry on a conversation. so just.
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because of the world's time that I saw him.
because of the world's time that i saw him.
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it really clear to them that I just didn't want anything to do with them anymore.
it really clear to them that i just didn't want anything to do with them anymore.
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both of our parts, you know? Because for some of the years, I thought that I really hated his guts. It's really important to do that. Make a man.
both of our parts, you know? because for some of the years, i thought that i really hated his guts. it's really important to do that. make a man.
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do it before you almost have to.
do it before you almost have to.
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that Margaret Sonneveld would die.
that margaret sonneveld would die.
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at least it happened. It's what I've done all my life though.
at least it happened. it's what i've done all my life though.
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I've always quit jobs without telling the employer that I'm a lawyer.
i've always quit jobs without telling the employer that i'm a lawyer.
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would show up one day. Same with high school, the last.
would show up one day. same with high school, the last.
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Two months of high school, I quit. So I've always copped out of things all my life. So to face up to my father was a big deal.
two months of high school, i quit. so i've always copped out of things all my life. so to face up to my father was a big deal.
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He chose to seek me out, but it was worth it.
he chose to seek me out, but it was worth it.
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any parental issues. I've never written about it.
any parental issues. i've never written about it.
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I've hardly ever written anything obviously personal to myself or to anyone else on that scale. Well, I had a really good childhood until the divorce. All of a sudden my whole world changed. I became antisocial and started to realize what, I don't know, I started to understand what it was like.
i've hardly ever written anything obviously personal to myself or to anyone else on that scale. well, i had a really good childhood until the divorce. all of a sudden my whole world changed. i became antisocial and started to realize what, i don't know, i started to understand what it was like.