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As soon as I am logged into Linux, I type
# xinit
Setting TCP SO_LINGER : Protocol not available
no SIOCGIFCONF
XFree86 Version 1.2/X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 5000)
configured drivers:
VGA256(256 colout SVGA):
et4000, et 3000, PVGA1, gvga, ati, tvga8900c, tgva9000
(using VT number 7)
Mouse : type : Mouse Systems, device : /dev/mouse, baudrate:1200
Font Path set to "usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1, /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75 dpi/,
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo, /usr/lib/X11/fonts/Bitstream1/,
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc.
VGA 256 : et4000 ( mem : OK numclocks : 16 )
VGA 256 : Clocks : 25.2 28.3 47.8 41.2 25.4 0.0 47.6 0.0
VGA 256 : Clocks : 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 41.3
Vga 256 : Too little memory for virtual resolution 1024 1204
*** A configured device found, but display modes could not be resolved. ***
Fatal server error:
no screens found
giving up.
xinit : Interrupted system call(errno 4) : Unable to connect to X server
xinit : No such process(errno 3) : Server error.
===========================================================================
Why am I getting these messages when I type in xinit?
Is there a configuration file for X-Windows(like config.sys for MSDOS)?
How do I start the X session( from shell )?
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Maybe. I've had an Epson portable with backlit LCD since 1988 which is
still used daily and the screen on that is fine. The only problem it
has (and ever has had) is the "arm" of the screen is sorta lose and if
you bend it fairly harshly the screen goes off until you wiggle it
round a bit. But other than that, it's been perfect! So what's that,
about um, 60 months???!
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1991 Toyota Camry
Deluxe model
5 sp
power windows
power door locks
power steering
power brakes
AM/FM cassette
70K highway miles
Excellent condition
$9800
(914) 335-6984 day (until 5pm)
(609) 397-2147 (after 7pm)
ask for Bob Fusi
Rob Fusi
rwf2@lehigh.edu
E-mail or call for more info....
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Excellent suggestion, Ron. And as a further comment on DOS 6, if
you decide to install Windows standalone configuration completely,
in more than 1 directory on your hard drive, and use DOS 6 to
jump to a specific copy for each user, you could be saving yourself
many megs of disk space if you use the SETUP /N and /A technique!!
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Finns had to do their best last night when they played against Norway
in world champs. After two periods the score was still 0-0. This game was
quite much similar to the first game Finland played (against France).
The norwegian goalie was very good and a bit lucky, too. In the third period
Juha Riihij{rvi scored 1-0 from a rebound, the time was around 5 mins or so.
The second goal was scored by Kari Harila, who shot straight from a faceoff
behind the Nowwegian goalie. Saku Koivu, the 18-year-old center got his first
point of this tournament. Saku Koivu played very well througout the game and he
was awarded the best player of the game- prize. Despite the fact that he is
quite small in size he handles the puck very well and is a fast skater.
I think that we will hear from this guy in the future.
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I'm trying to turn on Xauthorization using MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE on my servers
(CPU heads, HP700RX Xterminals), but I'm running into a couple of problems.
First, at least one of our applications (Maple) doesn't seem to understand
how to deliver the magic cookie, and won't run on a display with authorization
turned on.
Second, we have people with client software on remote machines, and I
really don't want to hassle them with having to copy their .Xauthority
file to the remote machine... assuming that the clients there support
Xauthorization.
So, what I would like to do is turn on MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE by default, with
non-privileged users able to turn it off - dropping back to host-based
authorization.
(Yes, I know how to turn it off by changing the Xconfig file for the
heads and the Client Authorize setting for the Xterminals, but
non-privileged users can't do this.)
I've checked with the HP Support Line, and there doesn't appear to be a way.
Can anyone confirm this, or do you know of a way to accomplish what I
want?
BTW, I'm running HPUX 9.0, and Vue 3.0.
Thanks in advance,
Rick
--
Rick McTeague
Electrical Engineering Department, Speed Scientific School
University of Louisville, Louisville, KY 40292
(502) 588-7020
Internet: sysrick@starbase.spd.louisville.edu
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Nonsense.
Mike, in Heinlein's "Moon is a Harsh Mistress" decides that a weapon is some
mechanism which allows you to deliver energy at a distance. (I don't
have the book handy or I'd find the exact quote).
Guns do that.
Cryptosystems do not.
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Once again, Koresh closed the door on an agent with a search warrant,
and the door was then perforated by a rain of bullets from the
inside.
They shot first.
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(stuff deleted)
[First point. What they are doing is wrong, just as what
Joseph's brothers did was wrong, just as what Judas did was wrong.
They intend it for evil. If God somehow brings good out of it, that
does not make them any less subject to just condemnation and
punishment.
Second point. Of course, God will bring good out of it. But not
the same good that He would have brought if the Serbians had
refrained from the sins of robbery and rape and murder. Nor does the
good He purposes excuse us from the duty of doing what is right.]
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I have a few just bought a new phone/answering machine combo so I really
don't need my present setup. Both items are in great condition. Prices
DO NOT include shipping. If you have any questions contact me by E-Mail
or call me at (814)234-4439.
Darryl
========================================================================
Toshiba FT6000 Cordless Phone $40
- Rubber antenna, 10 number memory
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With all the recent problems the Indians have been having
with their pitching staff I have heard numerous names
thrown around about who could solve their problem.
One name I have not heard is Mike Soper (RP). As far as
I know, Soper has had pretty good minor league stats.
Why not give the kid a chance? Anyone know anything about
this guy?
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Anyone happen to know what the max resolution for quicktime is? I'm
trying to determine if a maxed out system using quicktime could produce
and edit broadcast quality video (including bringing the video in via
video spigot/etc.). So far I have yet to see anything that's even close
to S-VHS in quicktime, but it'd be great to hear that it's possible.
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Hi. Does anyone know the possible causes of nasoparynx carcenoma
and what are the chances of it being hereditary?
Also, in the advacned cases, what is the general procedure to
reduce the pain the area as it prevents the patient from eating
due to the excessive pain of swallowing and even talking?
Thanks.
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Gee, I think there are some real criminals (robbers, muderers, drug
addicts) who appear to be fun loving caring people too. So what's
your point? Is it OK. just because the people are nice?
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lioness@maple.circa.ufl.edu:
pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz):
lioness@maple.circa.ufl.edu:
pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz):
For both these questions, it's an inclusive or. Alpha plus stencil is
supported (they're separate), as is double-buffered stereo.
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Hello,
Just one quick question:
My father has had a back problem for a long time and doctors
have diagnosed an operation is needed. Since he lives down in
Mexico, he wants to know if there is a hospital anywhere in
the United States particulary famous for this kind of surgery,
kind of like Houston has a reputation for excellent doctors
in eye surgery. Any additional info or pointers will be
appreciated a whole lot!...
Thanks in Advance.
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Ok, I just got a new 486/66 16 Mb, with a ATI Ultra pro and I can't get
into windows. It says that I need more memory available, but I have 15mb
ogf extended mem & 512k of conventionnal. I have disabled my memory aperture
because it didn't find any "FREE" memory, but it still gave me a message that
the memory aperture will conflict with system memory. I think that's why
it want to get in Windows.
Any help will greatly be appriciated.
Please Reply by mail, because this site is a week late on News
Thanks
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Arthur Clarke may have quoted the comment about knowing you're to be
hanged in the morning concentrating a man's mind wonderfully, but the
source of the comment is Samuel Johnson.
(Pardon me if you already knew that.)
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Can you say "*expensive*" ?
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I think I can explain the "missing part of a leaf" story.
I have actually seen a reproduction of that particular Kirlian
photograph, in a book compiled by people who were enthusiasts of
Kirlian photography. "That particular photograph" ... ? That's
right, the effect has been observed only once. Even the writers of
the book were inclined to disbelieve in it.
I conjecture that the maker of that photograph began by placing
a whole leaf between two plates and taking its Kirlian photo.
For his next experiment, he cut the leaf in half, put one half down
between the same two plates, and took another K. p. The
"missing half" effect was created by water, oils, etc. left behind
after the first photo.
This explanation must be tentative, because after all I wasn't there
when it happened.
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Frank Benson:
Another spelling flame?
Aren't you the guy who threatens people on talk.politics.guns? 2nd
amendment yea, 1st amendment nay.
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If you have any information on artificial intelligence in medicine, then I
would appreciate it if you could mail me with whatever it is. The informations
is needed for a project.
Thank you, Ian.
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I guess the real question is:
Who asked the original questions, and why was it so _broad_.
Are we talking pure processing power (what kind of processing BTW)
isolated from every other factor and influence in the system?
Or are we shopping for a home computer based on the CPU specs (yuck)!
I just finished a project that involves real-time processing of serial
data and discovered that the programming interface (assembly) has
_a lot_ to do with the "power" of a CPU in a particular application.
If what you want to do is easy to code with the instruction set given,
then not only is it easy, but it's cheap and quick. If you have to
fake things (like resolving indirection without a LEA instruction), then
your cycle count goes through the roof!
well, let's _NOT_ start a flame war about whose computer is better than whose.
The orginal question was about classifying micro-processors...
having re-read the entire thread, I don't think much more can be said without
getting down into specific proposed systems with important details given.
That's it for another $0.02.
Cheers everyone.
~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=
Peter Pundy
Email: 2545500@jeff-lab.queensu.ca
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I've been using Windows NT (tm) since the October release, and I have to
say that the March release is really a big improvement. Windows NT (tm)
is becomming usable.
There are a few things to consider before you make the leap though.
First (for me at least) is that you cannot get a full-speed DOS box.
What I mean is, I cannot (for instance) run Falcon 3.0 or any other
resourse intensive program in a DOS box. It absolutley crawls.
And my machine is a 486/33 with a 330MB HD and 16MB RAM. If anyone
knows how to get a fast DOS box (or full-screen for that matter),
please let me know.
The second thing is there are still not many drivers around for stuff.
For instance, my PAS-16 has been demoted to running as a Sound Blaster
(which is natively supported -- nice), because MediaVision hasn't
produced drivers yet.
Your disk should be large enough to keep an 80MB DOS partition, and
give the rest over to Windows NT (tm). The only thing is, whenever
you wanted to run Windows programs, you'd have to reboot and log into
Windows NT (tm), instead of just typing WIN.
Windows NT (tm) does seem to be much more stable than normal Windows
though. It'd be a good choice if you have the resources. You should
really have *at LEAST* 8MB RAM though. One last thing, modems work
well enough, but I have yet to get my FAX card to work, and I've never
heard of anyone else who did either.
It's only better than UNIX because it runs killer software out of the
box, whereas with UNIX there isn't the same availablity.
I guess it comes down to -- Windows NT (tm) is not yet for the faint
of heart, it's still a beta. But it's a very GOOD beta.
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This was reported in Canadian papers Thursday, 22 April - I _think_ the
source was UPI, but don't recall for certain.
I understand that at least two goverment investigations have been ordered,
so we may learn more during their hearings.
Tough call without more investigation, but if the thermal imaging story
holds up, I think the government will be more credable... of course,
paranoia fans won't believe their results anyway, will they?
Hear, hear! I'd also like to see the autopsy reports confirm news reports
that multiple victims were found shot (in the head), and in positions
inconsistent with fire victims. It is simply too early to draw conclusions
either way about this nasty incident, but I tend to believe the government
side.
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And I lived out there too. It was a nice sleepy farm valley until
the Butler family decided to stick up all sorts of really tacky
High RIse office buildings and ruin my view of the sky.
I guess i should have sued somebody :-;
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It is not a matter of dis-belief but a matter of which of their constantly
(and radically) changing stories we are to believe.
Steve B.
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Items for sale.....
This package was bought throught a award give-away company. I attempted
to cancel my order before I received the package, but I was too late and
the company refused to take the package back for refund. I know the truth
which I would never get my $697 back, but I wish to get my money back as
close as possible. Here is the describtion of the package...
Nishika 3D camera It takes very good picture, never been opended
or used. It came with wide angle flesh, carring
case, film, and a instruction video. It has four
lens and created a 3D effect on a regular 35mm
film.
Jewelry It came with the package as additional gift.
Bahama vacation voucher The voucher is good for two RT airfare to Freeport.
The users get a special hotel rate of $27 per-person
per-night. Meals, ground transfer, hotel tax is
_not_ included.
Las Vegas, Reno, Orlando The voucher provides one RT airfare, and
hotel accomodation for 3 days/ 2 nights.
Meals, ground transfer, hotel tax is not
included. The voucher is good for all 3
locations, but you can't travel to all 3
places at once.
Cancun, Mexico The voucher provides one RT airfare, and hotel
accomodation for 3 days / 2 nights. Meals and
ground transfer, hotel tax is not included as
usual.
I paid $697 for the whole package. So try not to be cold-blooded when you
make your offer. Details would be provided by request. I do wish to sell
the whole package at once. So if you are just looking for the vacation
vouchers, I don't care if you sell the camera to other for a higher pric
If you are interested in the camera, you could treat the vacation vouchers
as gift.
If you receive a letter in your mail box which says that you are selected
to be part of the sweeptake and you have at least one out of five awards.
Trust me, you would get the exactly the same package as I did. There is
only one award which will be given away. So don't bother even to call them
back, if you are really interested, you could get it from me for a cheaper
price. And you could receive the package within a week ( I waited three
months to get my first and final packages). Also, they would ask for your
credit card number and you have to pay for the interest to the credit
card company. So why spend more than you should when you could get them
from me for a cheaper price.
If you are interested, please reply to me as soon as posible. I really
wish to get this over with. Make me an offer, if I am confortable with
your offer, I would send the package by U.P.S. the next day morning.
More details could be given if you wish.
Please contact me at koutd@hirama.hiram.edu
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Say WHAT? Surrounding the compound with armed men and throwing
grenades isn't a provocation?
You're smoking something not legal in the US. They never rang the
doorbell. Not even the BATF has claimed that they have. This was a
no-knock search.
As to the good reason the BATF has-- the warrant and supporting
affadavit have not been made public.
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I too am a Jules Verne collector, and can tell you that though tough
to find, it *is* out there. I keep my eyes open all the time for his
books at various Bay Area used book stores, and every once in a while
get *very* lucky. You just need diligence. I don't know if the book
store situation near JSC is as good as the Bay Area, but good luck.
I have also had excellent luck at the Antiquarian Book Fair which comes
to SF every other year, though the prices are more in the $100-$200 range
than the $50 you want to spend. My guess is that *if* you find it,
you won't need to spend even that much, since most people don't care
about it. I think I paid about $15 for my dust-jacket-less but otherwise
good condition copy, which I found one day at a small bookshop that happened
to have just bought a lot of random books at an estate sale.
Of course, if you re willing to buy blind, you can put a $2 advertisement
in the Antiquarian Bookseller's newsletter (the exact title of which escapes
me at the moment.) _Five Weeks in a Balloon_ is not the rarest of Jules
Verne books. Someone has it for sale somewhere, and the AB is the way to
find it. In fact, I would be surprised if you didn't get multiple offers
of sale. Of course, that takes the fun out of hunting for it yourself...
Good luck.
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A good reason (which is why many companies use it) for 48 bits / pixel
is so you can use double buffering (for animating scenes) - i.e. you have
2 * 24-bit planes. You write to the one in the background, and then FLIP!
-- the entire screen updates to the second image-plane. The screen updates
in one refresh and you don't see different objects appearing in the order
that they're drawn (as in the CAD/MacDraw effect). Now your ready to update
the image that used to be in the foreground.
Steve. (thssstb@iitmax.iit.edu / iris.iit.edu)
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Hello Cliff
Many people on the internet (like us) have to pay for
every byte of data passed through subscribed news groups.
Bitmaps are large. Bitmaps cost us a lot of money. There are
special news-groups for bitmaps because of this. We don't
subscribe to them. Put you bitmaps in the right place.
Read one of the FAQ guides in the newuser groups and it
will tell you all about bitmaps and the thousands of
establishments like mine that you have just cost money.
Some of them have very limited budgets.
Go away.
P.S. This is a flame ;-)
P.P.S You distribution of "usa" didn't work.
KenB
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Oh..
just a note, my usually poor typing is made even more dificult by the
small keyboard and mutiple connections I am piped through in order
to access news while here in DC.
I'm really not trying to irritate the spelling mavens :-)
LUX ./. owen
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Yes, I want to read such a article.
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I ran out of time on my last reply to this string and I don't
know if it was sent or not but. I have never heard of anyone that
had to return something in the 30 grace peried that had a problem
at all with Midwest Micro. They may of thought that you didn't
know what you were doing and suggested how to correct the problem.
But it sounded as you didn't give them much of a chance to correct
things at all. The fact that the PPI worked okay for you is because
it is setup more for the no nothing user that can't understand the
instruction and the commands to configure it to his/her system.
When you find out things like the fact the the EC led that looks like
you have connected to another EC modem, doesn't realy say that.
But that it only tells you that you have EC turned on, on your modem.
I think that these LED are nothing more that just light to hype up
the product. Just like I bet someone took home a few extra $$$
in the last year for giving the PPI modems the PC-Magazine award
of the year. Not so for the stash (12) of them that I saw on my test
bench. I could go on for hours at no end as to all of the problems
that I found with the PPI modems but I will try to control myself.
I will not even go into the 6 weeks it took PPI to credit my card
back for the modems after they had received them back...no I will
not go into that one nor will I go into talking to the parent co.
co from Hayes. I'll just say I hope you like your new modem and
maybe someone that can understand how to setup a modem will get
the one that you sent back, maybe a good friend of mine I hope!
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: : So what is Kibology? Chopped liver?
: Kibo Himself summed it up by saying "Kibology is not just a religion, it is
: also a candy mint ... and a floor wax." I personally think that it is more
: like Spam Clear.
: :
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FIRST ANNUAL PHIGS USER GROUP CONFERENCE
The First Annual PHIGS User Group Conference was held March 21-24
in Orlando, Florida. The conference was organized by the Rensse-
laer Design Research Center in co-operation with IEEE and SIG-
GRAPH. Attendees came from five countries spanning three con-
tinents. A good cross-section of the PHIGS community was
represented at this conference with participants including PHIGS
users, workstation vendors, third-party PHIGS implementors, stan-
dards committee members, and researchers from industry and
academia. The opening speaker, Dr. Richard Puk, challenged PHIGS
users to "take charge of your PHIGS" by participating in PHIGS
standardization activities and communicating their needs to PHIGS
implementors. The closing speaker, Dr. Andries Van Dam,
described his vision of the future of graphics standards "beyond
PHIGS".
Technical paper sessions in the conference covered the following
topics: PHIGS and X, Application Toolkits, Application Issues,
Texture Mapping, NURBS, PHIGS Extensions, and Object-Oriented
Libraries and Frameworks. Panel sessions on PHIGS and PEX, PHIGS
Non-Retained Data, Real-World CAD Applications Using PHIGS, and
Portability Issues generated enthusiastic discussions and formed
a good forum for exchange of ideas, needs, and experiences. The
conference also included a day full of tutorials on topics rang-
ing from mathematics for 3D graphics to object-oriented tools
based on PHIGS.
Next year's conference is planned for March, 1994.
PHIGS EVERYWHERE
At the conference, PHIGS vendors described and demonstrated
PHIGS products that run on all types of computers, from PCs to
mainframes.
Megatek Corporation demonstrated their PHIGS extensions including
conditional traversal, composite logical input devices, texturing
and translucency.
Template Graphics Software launched FIGARO+ PRO, the Photo-
Realistic Option for PHIGS+. FIGARO+ PRO is designed to add
advanced rendering to the existing PHIGS+ API, with features like
ray tracing, materials, anti-aliasing and texture mapping.
Radiosity support is also planned.
FIGARO+ is an example of how TGS continues to add newly emerging
graphics features to their products. FIGARO+ supports immediate
mode extensions to PHIGS and also supports SUN XGL, HP Starbase
and SGI GL/OpenGL. FIGARO+ for NT will be released this summer.
TGS also demonstrated the latest versions of FIGraph, a powerful
"2-call" charting system based on PHIGS+, and FIGt, an object-
oriented utility library for PHIGS/PEX developers.
G5G and Gallium Software demonstrated a new version of GPHIGS on
Silicon Graphics workstations. Scheduled for summer, 1993, Ver-
sion 3.0 of GPHIGS, the company's PHIGS+ library for worksta-
tions, will include an advanced PHIGS debugger that allows PHIGS
developers to display and browse PHIGS structures and other PHIGS
internal state. G5G also described their Non-Duplicated Data
Store that stores pointers to application data in the GPHIGS CSS
for more efficient use of memory. In addition, G5G described
their application GSE that allows application callback functions
during GPHIGS traversal. GPHIGS and PHIGURE, G5G's data visual-
izer and application development toolkit, are currently available
on all major workstations that support GL, X Windows, PEX, or
Starbase.
Wise Software presented a slide show of Z-PHIGS for MS-Windows
and ARENA, a PHIGS based modeller/render. Z-PHIGS implements most
of the PHIGS+ primitives. In addition Z-PHIGS has built in many
advanced rendering features like texture mapping, shadow genera-
tion, area quick updates and ray tracing. A demo disk of Z-PHIGS
or ARENA is available on request.
ATC exhibited GRAFPAK-PHIGS, their full-featured PHIGS implemen-
tation based on DEC PHIGS. GRAFPAK-PHIGS is available on most
workstation platforms with C, FORTRAN and Ada bindings and incor-
porates PEX support.
Within the booth sponsored by Advanced Technology Center, Digital
Equipment Corporation demonstrated DEC PHIGS V2.4 running on the
DEC 3000/400 AXP PXG. ATCs' GRAFPAK-PHIGS is a port of DEC PHIGS.
DEC PHIGS V2.4 contains most PHIGS and PHIGS PLUS features with
support for PEX V5.1 protocol. DEC PHIGS also contains most
GM/EDS PHIGS extensions including post-to-view as well as
proprietary extensions to support immediate mode rendering and
the use of PHIGS in an X11 environment.
AXP, DEC, and DEC PHIGS are trademarks of Digital Equipment Cor-
poration. GRAFPAK-PHIGS and ATC are trademarks of Advanced Tech-
nology Center. PEX and X11 are trademarks of Massachusetts Insti-
tute of Technology.
The IBM exhibit featured a GTO accelerator attached to an IBM 340
workstation running graPHIGS and PEX.
Hewlett Packard and SHOgraphics demonstrated at the conference. A
Hewlett Packard machine was coupled to display on a SHOgraphics
PEX terminal. HP showcased their latest PHIGS product enhance-
ments.
PHIGS USER GROUP
The PHIGS Users Group was formed to aid the development of PHIGS
applications and provide user feedback to PHIGS implementors and
PHIGS standards bodies. For more information about the PHIGS
Users Group, send e-mail to:
phigsug@cadrt10.me.vt.edu
or write to:
Sankar Jayaram
Virginia Polytechnic Institute
114 Randolph Hall
Blacksburg, Va. 24061-0238
FAX: 703-231-9100
VENDOR CONTACTS
Megatek Corporation
TEL (619) 455-5590
FAX (619) 453-7603
Template Graphics Software
TEL (800) 544-4847
FAX (619) 452-2547
WISE software GmbH
TEL +49-451-3909-413
FAX +49-451-3909-499
G5G - North American Sales
TEL (800) 267-2626
FAX (613) 592-1278
Advanced Technology Center
TEL (800) 999-5711
FAX (714) 583-9213
Digital Equipment Corporation
TEL (603) 884-5111
International Business Machines Corporation
TEL (800) 426-3333
Hewlett Packard Company
TEL (303) 229-3800
COPIES OF THE CONFERENCE PROCEEDINGS
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You should realize that form letters are the *worst* way to influence
your congresscritters; exact copies are routinely placed on the lowest
rung of the opinion ladder.
If you want to write (and I think you should!), take the time to really
*write* a letter. Things to emphasize:
- It's been said that Usenet is available to the 'technical
elite', i.e. the techies at corporate sites and universi-
ties. Emphasize that you are part of the group that will
be making/developing/using Clinton's 'data superhighway.'
- Explain how you are intimately familiar with both computing
and data communications. (if this is the case; don't call your-
self an 'expert' after wiring in a 1200 bps modem.) This
will distinguish your letter from the random flamers. Don't
turn it into braggadocio; just tell them that you know the
technical sides of the issue.
- Don't overdo jargon and gobbledygook. Remember, your letter
will be first read (in all likelihood) by a staffer who may
even be a college student; if they don't understand it, your
views won't even make the 'running total' sheets.
- Be concise; don't ramble. Rants are *definitely* out of place.
Cite references, if necessary, but only use "accepted" references
like academic journals. "My neighbor Jim" is *not* a real refer-
ence. 8)
- Unfortunately, very few Congresscritters *really* understand
electronic communications. Encourage them to pick up access
to Compuserve, America Online, or one of the Free-Nets. Offer
to send them samples. If you are in a position to do so, offer
them (or their staffers back in the home state) access to your
systems. Offer to give a demonstration the next time they're in
town. Your offer to get *personally* involved in helping them
*will* give your opinions more credence.
- In addition to sending mail to your representatives, send mail
to the members of the committee (or subcommittee) that is dealing
with the issue. If your Congresscritter isn't on the committee,
they can't be of much help until the matter comes to the floor.
--Wes
ps> I'd suggest drawing analogies between digital communication and the
more traditional media, but Usenet doesn't have a decent track record
in the analogy department. 8)
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Sorry, but I just wanted to be the first hypocrite to say it. I hope
I'm not too late. Has everyone been watching their local/national
politicians?
Rick
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Okay, I'll bite. How can OBP be *lower* than batting average?
Sac flies or something?
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I wouldn't worry too much about it, though. We are starting to find
out how politically impotent homosexuals really are. The Colorado
boycott has fizzled, Slick Willie was effectively prevented from
implementing his military policy wrt homosexuals by members of his
_OWN_ party, this new study casts a large shadow of doubt on their
claims of large numbers, and coming this Saturday they are going to
wind up with _TREMENDOUS_ egg on their face when, I submit, no more
than perhaps 35,000 queers will show up in Washington while they are
promising crowds in the millions. And most of the ones who will be
there will look like ACT-UP and Queer Nation, not the guy working in
the next cubicle. As if that's really going to play in middle
America.
Pretty soon they will find themselves retreating back into the closet
where they belong.
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It is possible that the individual saw a true prophetic vision, but that he
interpreted the scale of time and space according to his material con-
sciousness, translating the supersensible perceptions of a plane above
that of time and space into an immediate worldly context -- and getting it
wrong. Not that he did it rationally, but rather that unconsciously the
perceptions became clothed in material images, instead of remaining in the
realm of the potential and not-yet-time-space-bound. This difficulty of
translating prophetic vision into a concrete when and where has always been
difficult, even for the prophets of old. That is why their prophecies are
so often subject to multiple interpretations. Likewise, the Apostles seemed
to feel that the return of the Lord was to be "very soon" in the sense of
perhaps the same generation. Yet the meaning of "very soon" has proven to
be different than they could grasp. Prophetic vision tends to telescope
time, so that things that are far off appear to be very close.
Another possibility is that the vision was one of a real event preparing to
happen, again in the realm of the potential-but-not-yet-manifest and which
was thwarted by other forces, including possibly an act of divine mercy.
There are many concrete prophecies being made these days by devout and
sincere and sober Christians (and others too). It seems that great coming
events are really casting their shadow before their arrival in these
"apocalyptic" times. The various predictions (I'm talking about those that
appear to be sincere and sober) are hard to accept, yet hard to ignore com-
pletely. One has the feeling "something is about to start to get ready to
begin to commence to happen". We are living, as the Chinese saying goes,
in interesting times.
As for how to discriminate, the Bible doesn't help much. There is an Old
Testament passage (I forget where it is) that says you will know whether
a prophet is true by whether or not his prophecy comes to pass. That
helps eliminate the failures after the fact, but in the case of an earth-
quake it is small comfort. It seems to me that all prophecies that give
specific times and places and events should be suspect, not in that they
are necessarily false, but in the sense stated above, that all such visions
are subject to mistranslation from the plane of prophetic vision to the
plane of earthly time and space.
For what it is worth, Rudolf Steiner once was asked whether a modern initiate
could see into the future and predict coming events. His answer was that
it would be possible but then he would have to withdraw from active parti-
cipation in them, including proclaiming what he saw. If this is in fact
a spiritual law, then the answer to your question about how to discriminate
is that the one who makes such prophecies is probably violating that law,
knowingly or unknowingly, and as such his message should be considered
a priori to be dubious. I.e. I would expect that those capable of making
true predictions and giving accurate expression to them would not do so in
the way that the prophet of the Oregon earthquake did. However, I can
sympathize with the person who published the prophecy. Given the same
overwhelming experience that he apparently had, I too might feel impelled,
and even commissioned by God to tell my fellow human beings about what
I had seen.
Gerry Palo (73237.2006@compuserve.com)
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In 1967, when I was a grad student at UW in Seattle I had a chance to
read Hoover's book "Masters of Deceit", and I quote a sentence (from
memory):
"and beware my fellow Americans, a communist may look just as an
ordinary person..."
I went to the mirror and it was true.
--
Borut B. Lavrencic, D.Sc. | X.400 :C=si;A=mail;P=ac;O=ijs;S=lavrencic
J. Stefan Institute | Internet:Borut.B.Lavrencic@ijs.si
University of Ljubljana, | Phone :+ 386 1 159 199
SI-61111 Ljubljana, Slovenia | PGP Public Key available on request
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Give ME a break, chum. Are you telling me that Clinton and
Reno DID NOT KNOW that the BATF actions were ILLEGAL, adn
in VIOLATION of their warrant?
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As a guess, Hamilton would be put into the Midwest, with either
Winnipeg or Dallas moving to the Pacific.
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Yeah, it's the second one. And I believe that price too. I've been trying
to get a good look at it on the Bruin-Sabre telecasts, and wow! does it ever
look good. Whoever did that paint job knew what they were doing. And given
Fuhr's play since he got it, I bet the Bruins are wishing he didn't have it:)
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I am considering creating a "demo" for the IBM PC for my band.
I would like to combine interesting graphics and a sample of
my music in the program. I have seen things like this
done for other platforms, and even a few for the PC, but since
I'm completly new to this, I have no idea wher to start.
I'm pretty sure that I am not skilled enough to put this
together, but I was hoping that you (collectivly) could
A. Let me know what issues I need to worry about, things I
Should take into consideration when developing the
concept.
B. Perhaps someone knows of a programmer/artist who would be interested
in this type of a project.
I know these are rather broad questions, but any information
would be most helpful. Thanks!!
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Here is the short answer: because only
certain marriages are recorded in Heaven.
Now for the long answer:
In Doctrine and Covenants section 132, the
chapter discussing eternal marriage (and, yes,
plural marriage), the distinction between
sealings under the priesthood and other
marriages is revealed.
When "the children of this world marry, or are
given in marriage" when they receive "the
resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are
given in marriage" (Luke 20:34-35).
Jesus was simply teaching that marriages "until
death do you part" are not in force after death.
However, the Doctrine and Covenants continues
describing eternal marriage.
D&C 132:19
And again, verily I say unto you, if a
man marry a wife by my word, which is my law, and
by the new and everlasting covenant, and it is
sealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of promise,
by him who is anointed this power and the keys
of this priesthood; ... [ shortened for brevity AI]
and shall be of full force when they are out of
the world; and they shall pass by the angels,
and the gods, which are set there, to their
exhaltation and glory in all things, as hath been
sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a
fulness and a continuation of the seeds forever
and ever.
The Lord told Peter "whatsoever thou shalt bind
on earth shall be bound in heaven" (Matt 16:19).
Do you doubt that Peter was given the power to
perform sealings?
Peter thought so because he taught that husbands
and wives were "heirs *together* of the grace of
life" (1 Peter 3:7).
"In order to obtain the highest" (degree of
celestial glory), a man must enter into this
order of the priesthood" (D&C 131:2).
When a man and wife are sealed they truly become
"one flesh" because their eternal "increase"
(destinies) are enjoined completely.
Our Father has an eternal companion (and maybe
more because of the plural marriage conditions
of the law) who participated in our creation
and is equally concerned with our progress here.
There is no scriptural basis for this doctrine.
If fact, the only mention of our Mother is in
one verse of a hymn written early in the history
of the Church:
O My Father
I had learned to call thee Father,
Through thy Spirit from on high,
But, until the key of knowledge
Was restored, I knew not why.
In the heav'ns are parents single?
No, the thought makes reason stare!
Truth is reason; truth eternal
Tells me I've a mother there.
Why don't we hear more about our Mother?
1. Because our Father presides under Priesthood
authority (which is not a calling for Her);
2. Because we don't all (necessarily) have the
same Mother it would be confusing for worship;
3. Because our Father wishes to withhold Her
name and titles because of how some people
degrade sacred things.
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I was in fact going to suggest that Roger take his way of discussion over
to r.s.football.pro. There this kind of hormone-only reasoning is the
standard. Being he canadian, and hockey what it is, I would have suggested
that r.s.h would work too. It is important in a thread that everyone
involved use the same body part to produce a post (brain being the organ
of choice here).
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crud deleted...
You are missing out on a lot of neat old rides.
--
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"Tuba" (Irwin) "I honk therefore I am" CompuTrac-Richardson,Tx
irwin@cmptrc.lonestar.org DoD #0826 (R75/6)
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Well, no. Although I admit that's more exciting than a rat killer.
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic
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Hi,
I posted that article. Unfortunately I haven't seen any further notice of
it. They advertize cheaper Duo's at the U here for next wek. According
to the articel though, the price cut had to be effective the same day.
newsbyte is a group of news like clarinet.
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I've been reading the sci.crypt, alt.privacy.clipper and comp.org.eff.talk
discussions about the Clipper chip and find (as usual) that most of us
think alike -- so there's a lot of repitition. If each of these messages
were sent to Clinton as well as to the net (or instead of to the net), we
might actually have some effect.
0005895485@MCIMAIL.COM (White House)
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I posted this once but didn't receive any responses.
I've been looking for a good notebook for about $1700. My two
favorites are the Zeos Freestyle/SL and the Micro something or
other Winbook (the one with the Apple Powerbook style trackball
and handrest and the 486SLC).
Any suggestions on others? I'd love to hear from someone who has
one of the two mentioned above, too.
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Hello,
I have two 3b1s for sale. One of them is a 1MB RAM
and the other one is a 2MB RAM system. They are both running
the 3.51m version and I have loaded lots of software on them
from the network like gcc, emacs, tex/latex and so on. I am
asking $500 for the 1MB, and $650 for the 2MB model or best
offer.
______________________________________________________________________________
Odysseas Pentakalos odysseas@umbc7.umbc.edu or
University of Md. Electrical Engineering Dept.
odysseas@polaris.medinfo.ab.umd.edu
(301) 498-3749 (410) 706-2042
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Yup.
I expect better from you, 'Mau'. No, I take that back, I don't. The
treaty on the exchange of the Turkish and Greek minorities (1923) left
no Greek minority in Turkiye, except a few thousand Greeks in istanbul.
Turkiye is no longer an obstacle for 'Pan-Hellenism.' Although the material
basis of Greek policy is no longer visible, there is a residue, which
seems to unite the Pelopenisians, the Greeks who came from Asia Minor,
the Greeks who are originally from the islands of the Marmara Sea
or those who live in the numerous Aegean islands. This residue is
also recognizable in the contemporary Greek government.
Not a chance. Greece lost in each and every war conducted "solely"
between Greece and Turkiye: in the Morea in 1821, in Thessaly in
1897-98, and in Anatolia in 1922. After the Ottoman Empire lost
World War I, the British landed in 1919 a 200,000 Greek army in
Izmir to exterminate the people of Turkiye. Are you suffering
from a severe case of amnesia? The tired and defeated Turks rose up,
formed a National Force under the leadership of Mustafa Kemal, and
on August 30, 1922 they annihilated the bulk of the Greek Army.
I love people who don't read and then spout myths as evidence. Where
were Greeks in 1912 and 1913? I guess, they were busy with...
Greek Efforts to Decimate the Jewish Population of Salonica
Culminated in 1912 and 1913
<<Those Jews who survived these assaults in Southeastern Europe fled
particularly to Salonica, whose Jewish population increased substantially
as a result, from 28,000 in 1876 to 90,000 in 1908, more than half the
total population, though even there increased persecution by local Greeks
led many Jews to flee elsewhere in the Ottoman Empire, particularly to
the great port of Izmir.
Despite all the pressure from Ottomans and foreign Jews alike, the ritual
murders and other assaults by Christians on Jews went on and on. Greek
efforts to decimate the Jewish population of Salonica culminated in 1912
and 1913, following Greek conquest of Salonica during the first Balkan War,
when many of its Jews, were either killed or terrorized into leaving...>>
<<Though Greece was obligated by the post World War I treaties to allow
Jews and other minorities to use their own languages in education and to
practice their religions without hindrance, a law was issued in 1923
which forbad all inhabitants from working on Sunday, stimulating a new
Jewish exodus as it was intended to do. Between 1932 and 1934 there was a
series of anti-Semitic riots in Salonica, with the Cambel quarter, where
most of the remaining Jews lived, being burned to the ground. This
was followed by regulations requiring the use of Greek and prohibiting
Hebrew and Judea-Spanish in the Jewish schools. A start was made also
on expropriating the land of the principal Jewish cemetery in Salonica
for use by the new University in order to derive the Jews out [47]. By
killing and driving out large numbers of Jews, the Greeks left a
substantial Greek majority in the city for the first time, and starting
Salonica Jewry on the way to its final decimation by the Nazis during the
occupation of Greece starting in 1941.
Salonica and Izmir of course were not the only places of refuge for
Jewish refugees entering the Empire during its last century of existence.
Istanbul, Edirne, and other parts of Rumelia and Anatolia received
thousands more. Nor were Jews the only refugees received and helped by
the government of the Sultan. Thousands of Muslims accompanied them in
flight from similar persecutions wherever Balkan christian states gained
independence or expanded. The Russian conquest of the Crimea and the
Caucasus starting in the late eighteenth century, and particularly during
and after the Crimean War, combined with the same independence movements
in Southeastern Europe that had caused so much suffering and flight among
its Jews caused thousands of helpless, ill, and poverty-stricken Muslim
refugees to accompany them into the ever shrinking boundaries of the
Ottoman Empire, with the Istanbul government struggling mightly but vainly
to house and feed them as best it could. From 1850 to 1864 as many as
800,000 Crimean Tatars, Circassians, and other Muslims from north and
east of the Black Sea had entered Anatolia alone, as many as 200,000 more
came during the next twenty years, while 474,389 refugees entered in 1876-
1877 as a result of the Ottoman wars with Russia and the Balkan states,
with an equal number gaining refuge in the European portions of the
Empire.>>
[47] Robert Mantran, 'La structure sociale de la communaute juive de
Salonqiue a la fin du dix-neuvieme siecle', RH no.534 (1980), 391-92;
Nehama VII, 762; Joseph Nehama (Salonica) to AIU (Paris) no.2868/2,
12 May 1903 (AIU Archives I-C-43); and no.2775, 10 January 1900 (AIU
Archives I-C-41), describing daily battles between Jewish and Greek
children in the streets of Salonica. Benghiat, Director of Ecole Moise
Allatini, Salonica, to AIU (Paris), no.7784, 1 December 1909 (AIU
Archives I-C-48), describing Greek attacks on Jews, boycotts of Jewish
shops and manufacturers, and Greek press campaigns leading to blood libel
attacks. Cohen, Ecole Secondaire Moise Allatini, Salonica, to AIU (Paris),
no.7745/4, 4 December 1912 (AIU Archives I-C-49) describes a week of terror
that followed the Greek army occupation of Salonica in 1912, with the
soldiers pillaging the Jewish quarters and destroying Jewish synagogues,
accompanied by what he described as an 'explosion of hatred' by local
Greek population against local Jews and Muslims. Mizrahi, President of the
AIU at Salonica, reported to the AIU (Paris), no.2704/3, 25 July 1913
(AIU Archives I-C-51) that 'It was not only the irregulars (Comitadjis)
that massacred, pillaged and burned. The Army soldiers, the Chief of
Police, and the high civil officials also took an active part in the
horrors...', Moise Tovi (Salonica) to AIU (Paris) no.3027 (20 August 1913)
(AIU Archives I-C-51) describes the Greek pillage of the Jewish quarter
during the night of 18-19 August 1913.
(AIU = Alliance Israelite Universelle, Paris.)
Serdar Argic
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Much of Cook's later exploration was privately funded, by Joseph Banks
among others (eg in Resolution & the earlier Endeavour). Colnett's voyage
to the Galapagos was substantially privately funded by the owners of
British whaling vessels. Chancellor and Willoughby were privately funded
by London merchant companies in their voyages to Muscovy. The list is
almost endless. Those doing the funding were about eighty percent
motivated by potential profit, ten percent by potential glory and ten
percent by the desire to advance the sum of human knowledge.
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The variance from perfect sphericity in a model of the earth small enough
to fit into your home would probably be imperceptible.
Any globe you can buy will be close enough.
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To all netters,
In my last post that concerning about the CYRIX 486DLC CPU, I said the
benchmark program COMPTEST stated there is a bug in CYRIX CPUs. This is NOT
true and I must apologize to the author of COMPTEST. The actual program
that gives this report is F-PROT 2.07, a virus detection and removal
program. The report stated there is a bug in the Cx486SLC but not DLC.
Sorry, sorry, sorry...
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# A S T R O - F T P L I S T
# Updated 28.04.1993
#
# This is a short description of anonymous-ftp file servers containing
# astronomy and space research related material. I have included only those
# servers where there are special subdirectories for astro stuff or much
# material included into a general directories. This list is not a complete
# data set of possible places, so I would be very happy of all kind of notices
# and information depending on this listing.
#
# The newest version of this file is available via anonymous-ftp as:
#
# nic.funet.fi:/pub/astro/general/astroftp.txt
#
# There are also many mirror (copy) archives for simtel-20.army.mil (PC) and
# sumex-aim.stanford.edu (Mac) which are not included into this list. Only some
# of mirroring sites are listed.
#
#
# Veikko Makela
# Veikko.Makela@Helsinki.FI
# *Computing Centre of Univ. Helsinki*
# *Ursa Astronomical Association*
# Server, IP # Contents
# Directories
ames.arc.nasa.gov Spacecraf data and news,images,NASA data,
128.102.18.3 Spacelink texts,VICAR software,FAQ
/pub/SPACE
arp.anu.edu.au Images
130.56.4.90
/pub/images/nasa
atari.archive.umich.edu Atari
141.211.164.8
/atari/applications/astronomy
archive.afit.af.mil Satellite software,documents,elements
129.92.1.66
/pub/space
baboon.cv.nrao.edu AIPS document and patches,radioastronomy
192.33.115.103 image processing,FITS test images
/pub/aips
c.scs.uiuc.edu ROSAT,Starchart(PC)
128.174.90.3
/pub
ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz PC
130.216.1.5
/msdos/astronomy (*) overseas connections refused
chara.gsu.edu Electronical Journal of ASA, Journal of
131.96.5.10 ASA, SAC news
/
explorer.arc.nasa.gov Magellan, Viking and Voyager CDROMs
128.102.32.18
/cdrom
export.lcs.mit.edu XEphem distribution
18.24.0.12
/contrib/xephem
epona.physics.ucg.ie Some software, predictions, images,
140.203.1.3 FITS info, miscellaneous
/pub/astro
/pub/space
/pub/fits
fits.cv.nrao.edu FITS documents, OS support, sample data,
192.33.115.8 test files, sci.astro.fits archive
/FITS
ftp.cicb.fr Images
129.20.128.27
/pub/Images/ASTRO
ftp.cco.caltech.edu Astronomy magazine index 1991
131.215.48.200
/pub/misc
ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de PC,Amiga,Mac,Unix,images,general
130.149.17.7
/pub/astro
ftp.funet.fi PC,Mac,CP/M,Atari,Amiga,databases,Unix,
128.214.6.100 HP48,OS/2,texts,News,solar reports,images,
/pub/astro Satellite elements,FAQ
ftp.uni-kl.de iauc,Vista image reduction,asteroids
131.246.9.95
/pub/astro
garbo.uwasa.fi PC
128.214.87.1
/pc/astronomy
gipsy.vmars.tuwien.ac.at images
128.130.39.16
/pub/spacegifs
hanauma.stanford.edu Unix, satellite program, images
36.51.0.16
/pub/astro
/pub/astropix
hysky1.stmarys.ca ECU distribution
140.184.1.1
/pcstuff
idlastro.gsfc.nasa.gov IDL routines
128.183.57.82
/
iraf.noao.edu IRAF Software
140.252.1.1
/iraf
julius.cs.qub.ac.uk Space Digest
143.117.5.6
/pub/SpaceDigestArchive
rata.vuw.ac.nz Astrophysical software
130.195.2.11
/pub/astrophys
kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov Satellite elements,spacecraft info
128.149.1.165
/pub/space
ns3.hq.eso.org Test images, Standards
134.171.11.4
/pub/testimages
/pub/standards
nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov HST,IUE,Astro-1,NSSDCA info,Spacewarn,
128.183.36.23 FITS standard
/
plaza.aarnet.edu.au images,docs,Magellan
139.130.4.6
/graphics/graphics/astro
/magellan
pomona.claremont.edu Yale Bright Star Catalog
134.173.4.160
/YALE_BSC
pubinfo.jpl.nasa.gov JPL news, status reports, images
128.149.6.2
/
ra.nrl.navy.mil Mac
128.60.0.21
/MacSciTech/astro
rascal.ics.utexas.edu Mac
128.83.138.20
/mac
rigel.acs.oakland.edu PC
141.210.10.117
/pub/msdos/astronomy
rusmv1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de Atari
129.69.1.12
/soft/atari/applications/astronomy
simtel20.army.mil PC,CP/M
192.88.110.20
/msdos/educ
/cpm
sol.deakin.oz.au garbo.uwasa.fi c.
128.184.1.1
/pub/PC/chyde/astronomy
solbourne.solbourne.com some PC programs
141.138.2.2
/pub/rp/as-is/astro
stardent.arc.nasa.gov Martian map
128.102.21.44
/pub
stsci.edu HSTMap(Mac),HST info
130.167.1.2
/Software
sumex.stanford.edu Mac
36.44.0.6
/info-mac/app
sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de PC,misc
129.206.100.126
/pub/msdos/astronomy
techreports.larc.nasa.gov NASA Langley technical reports
128.155.3.58
/pub/techreports/larc
tetra.gsfc.nasa.gov FITSIO subroutines
128.183.8.77
/pub
unbmvs1.csd.unb.ca Space geodesy,solar activity info
131.202.1.2
pub.canspace
vmd.cso.uiuc.edu Weather satellite images
128.174.5.98
/wx
world.std.com PC; source codes
192.74.137.5
/pub/astronomy
xi.uleth.ca Solar reports,auroral activity forecast
142.66.3.29 maps,solar images,x-ray plot,coronal
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[massive dan blather mercifully deleted.]
Last time I checked, "amassing an arsenal" and practicing any kind of
religion were mentioned in passing in the Bill of Rights. Guess it's
OK with you if we just brush 'em aside in order to justify killing
a bunch of religious nutcakes, eh?
Of all the idiots I run into in daily life, Dan, your type scare me the
most. You'll accept expediency and a coward's safety over any belief
just as long as the government tells you to. You assume that anyone who
doesn't comform to your beliefs and ways of thinking are wrong and
therefore bad. Worse, you seem to accept without question what the
government says is wrong to be wrong.
David Koresh's religion was not mine but then again, neither are the baptists,
methodists, catholics or any of the rest of the corporate religions. BUT
even though Koresh's, the Baptists, the methodists, etc, don't believe
the same way I do, I recognize that their religions are equally valid
to mine and more importantly are equally protected under the 1st Amendment.
You see, I'm not that much different than Koresh and I suspect many others
fit the same catagory. I read the Bible many times and as I learned
from it, I discovered that a lot of what corporate religions practice
just isn't justified by MY interpretation of the Bible. Therefore I go
my own way. So did Koresh. And neither you nor I nor anyone else,
either individually or collectively as the great socialist "we" has ANY
RIGHT WHATSOEVER to tell me or you or Koresh that our religions are wrong.
You seem to think that it would have been oh so easy for the Davidians to
just forsake everything they believed in and walk out of their compound
in order to "save themselves". Think (if you're capable) for a moment
about some belief you hold dearest. Would you abandon that belief if
suddenly told to do so by the government? If you would do so you are
beneath contempt. Let's assume you have a belief that you hold dear
enough to commit your life to. Do you think it would be the correct
course of action for your government to initiate actions specifically
designed to force you to make that "forsake or die" decision?
The "forsake or die" option is exactly what the government forced on the
Davidians the day the first wave of black-clad stormtroopers fired that
first shot and tossed that first grenade. The FBI clenched it on Day 51
when they sent in heavy armor against 80-some-odd men, women and
children holed up in a rickety old building and armed with small arms. The
people who stayed, who held to their beliefs over personal safety, whose
individual personal honors demanded they die rather than submit, who
believed that the Bill of Rights meant exactly what it says, to those
people go my deepest respect, regardless of their religion. People like
you who blithely blow off the murder of 80 people with "well they could
have come out" get my most scornful contempt. I'd spit in your face
were there not a network between us. You're not worth the ashes of
those people who burned.
John
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Sorry about the garbage code, the following is used of course:
XSetForeground(Disp, PixGC, BackgroundColor);
XFillRectangle(Disp, Pixs, PixGC, 0, 0, Scr_width, Scr_height);
XSetForeground(Disp, PixGC, ForegroundColor);
XDraw[Line|String|Rectangle](Disp, Pixs, PixGC, ...);
XCopyArea(Disp, Pixs, Win, PixGC, 0, 0, Win_width, Win_height, 0, 0);
Juergen Schietke
Research Insitute for Discrete Mathematics
University of Bonn
Nassestr. 2
5300 Bonn 1
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[HAMID] Anybody has any information about the number of the people have been
[HAMID] killed by Israel during these 44 HAPPY YEAR?
Does anybody know how many Jews, Arabs, Christians and others have died
in terrorist attacks and wars over these 45 years due to Arab rhetoric and
rejectionism? The number is probably close to 100,000 at least.
All these lives wasted because the ARABS did not accept the PARTITION PLAN
in 1947.
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According to the recent TSN report Peter Puck is not paying any interest
on the Treasury Branch loans. That's a lot of green.
Again, according to TSN, virtually everything that Peter Puck has already
has liens against it. Of course we can't really be sure of this.
The Oiler rationale regarding the renegotiation of player contracts is
that a deal is a deal. Sather has spouted this repeatedly. Pocklinton
has a contract with Northlands until 1999. A deal is a deal. Perhaps
if he included the income he has received from his sale of assets (players
such as Gretzky) and the income he has received in expansion fees with
his revenues he wouldn't be losing money. He has admitted pulling this
money out of the Oiler franchise to put into his other businesses.
I think that Pocklington has received ample provincial subsidization.
I can't really blame him for going after municipal subsidization but
he is certainly not entitled to it. Pocklington has "sucked" revenue
out of the Oilers in order to prop up his failing business interests.
Pocklington is not to be trusted. I doubt very much that any Oiler
team will ever again make the playoffs under Pocklington's stewardship.
As soon as a player shows himself to be a competent NHL'er and expects
to be paid accordingly he is shipped off for younger players and or
draft picks.
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Oh. OK then, sorry for misunderstanding.
Maybee you should persuade your burea that for only $650 they can become much
more competitive, taking input from Autocad, PostScript andGif as well as
SCODL...
Seriously, this sounds like something the bureau should have. Or find another
bureau. You should not be the one buting this software.
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Interesting idea.
This suggestion has inspired me to post, under the title "Theories
of Creation", a collection of various "philosophies" of creation that
I am aware of. Could you explain which of these theories you would
want taught, and which ones you would not? Or, perhaps, I haven't
included a favorite theory of yours (if so, could you describe it for
me for inclusion in an updated list)?
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Hi,
I got a NE2100 compatible ethernet card, and I just received my copy
of Chameleon NFS. Unfortunately, it is not compatible with the NE2100
(only NE2000 or NE1000). What is the latest version number for Chameleon
NFS ? Did soemone tackle this problem ?
Thanks for help,
F. Popineau
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I have a 486 sx 25 and I recently added a SCSI drive to my system using an
Adaptec 1522 (non busmastering) controller. Yesterday I ran coretest to
find out drive performance and these are the values I got
Seagate 106 Meg: 875.1kb/Sec 14.5ms avg seek 3.7ms track to track
Quantum 400 Meg SCSI: 991.2 Kb/sec 12.7 avg seek 3.6 track to track.
First off all are these good results? I don't know what typical values
are.
What I'm wondering now is the following. My swap file is currently on the
IDE. I could move it to the SCSI which is 13% faster, but then I would not
be able to use 32-bit access which might actuall make it slower. So on
which drive should I put my swap file to get best results? Is there a swap
file speed test program out there?
Finally, I also ran the above tests with the ASPI2DOS driver loaded and I
got no difference whatsoever in performance. Is there any reason at all
why I should load this driver?
Thanks in advance, I will post a summary if I get enough responses.
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I was wondering if anyone knew of where I could find source
code for a program to solve a substitution cipher?
Thanks!
Kevin
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I have forsale a 486 25 slc notebook very small
INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING: CYRIX 486 25MHZ PROC. ( FAST )
MIDWEST MICRO ELITE SERIES
60 MEG HARD DRIVE (120 W/ STACKER)
1 3.5INCH DRIVE
1 SERIAL, 1 PARALLEL
2 MEGS OF RAM ( UPGRADABLE TO 8 MEGS )
64 shades of grey VGA
built in trackball
very fast machine
LOADED WITH WINDOWS,STACKER
DOS 5.0,
CARRYING CASE, AND POWER SUPPLY
bought it just 3 months ago for $1500.00 and realized
I don't need this much power in a notebook.
I was asking $1300.00... Now the first person with $1150.00 takes it.
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Earlier today I read an ad for REAL-3D animation & ray-tracing software and
it looked very convincing to me. However, I don't own an Amiga and so I began
to wonder, if there's a PC version of it.
So, has anyone seen/used REAl-3D for DOS??
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: How about contaminants on the corn, e.g. aflatoxin???
:
Little alflatoxin on commercial cereal products and certainly wouldn't
cause seizures.
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Los Angeles Times, Saturday, May 8, 1993. Page A11.
FIGURE IN ADL SPY CASE ARRESTED AT S.F. AIRPORT
ESPIONAGE: Former police officer is taken into custody upon
arriving from Philippines, where he had fled after FBI
interrogation.
By Jenifer Warren, Times staff writer
San Francisco -- A former San Francisco police officer who fled to the
Philippines amid accusations that he funneled confidential law
enforcement information to an investigator for the Anti-Defamation
League was arrested at the airport here on 11 felony charges, police
said Friday.
Thomas J. Gerard who abruptly left the United States in October after
the FBI questioned him about his activities, was apprehended Thursday
night after a source in the Philippines told investigators that Gerard
was returning home.
Gerard, 50, was booked into San Francisco County Jail early Friday
morning on eight counts of theft of government documents and one count
each of computer theft, burglary and conspiracy.
If convicted on all charges, Gerard could face 16 years in prison and
$40,000 in fines. Bail was initially set at $250,000 after police
argued that he was a flight risk, but it was later reduced to $20,000.
A friend of Gerard was trying to post bail late Friday afternoon, a
sheriff's spokeswoman said.
Gerard returned to the United because he missed his wife and child,
with whom he lived on a houseboat in Sausalito, and "wanted to have
his day in court," said Police Capt. John Willett, his former boss and
one of two arresting officers.
Gerard, an undercover agent for the Central Intelligence Agency from
1982 to 1985, also feared that the CIA was out to kill him, Willett
said. In an interview with The Times last month, Gerard threatened to
disclose illegal CIA support of death squads in Central America if he
was indicted and tried on the San Francisco spying charges.
Gerard is a central figure in a scandal over an intelligence network
operated by the Anti-Defamation League, a prominent Jewish civil
rights organization. Investigators allege that Gerard illegally gave
criminal histories to Roy Bullock, a San Francisco art dealer who said
he has been an undercover ADL intelligence operative for 40 years.
Investigators said they found confidential police files in Bullock's
home computer -- which contained entries on 10,000 people and 950
groups -- and in boxes in his apartment. Files have also been seized
under search warrants from ADL offices in San Francisco and Los
Angeles but authorities have not disclosed their contents.
Gerard could not be reached for comment Friday, and his attorney,
James Lassart, did not return telephone calls seeking comment. In the
interview with The Times last month, however, Gerard acknowledged
snooping and sharing some information with Bullock, but denied any
criminal wrongdoing.
Bullock and Gerard also are under investigation for selling
intelligence to South Africa.
ADL officials have described Bullock as a $550-a-week independent
contractor and have vigorously denied knowledge of any illegal
activity. On Friday, ADL lawyer Jerrold Ladar said Gerard's arrest
"has nothing to do with ADL. Other than that, we have no comment on
the case."
Arab-American groups -- which were a main target of the spying,
according to police -- applauded the arrest and pressed authorities to
pursue the investigation.
"We urge investigators to carry this case forward and to publicly
disclose the full extent of ADL and law enforcement involvement," said
James Zogby, head of the Arab American Institute in Washington.
Police, meanwhile, characterized Gerard's arrest -- the first in the
inquiry into the spying scandal -- as an unexpected breakthrough. A
former police colleague of Gerard, Inspector Fred Mollat, visited
Gerard several weeks ago and urged him to return home.
"I knew he wouldn't want to live on an island on the lam forever, but
we didn't think it would happen this quickly," Capt. Willett said.
"This development really speeds up our timetable on the case."
During his 25-year career on the police force, Gerard was a highly
regarded officer known for his work in the department's intelligence
division. His last assignment was on the gang task force.
After FBI agents questioned Gerard last fall, he took early retirement
and fled to the remote jungle island of Palawan, 300 miles south of
Manila.
Gerard was arrested at 8:40 p.m. as he stepped from his Philippines
Airlines flight. He was traveling alone and looked tanned but haggard
after his six-month hiatus, police said.
"He was surprised when he saw us standing there, and got a shocked
look on his face," Willett said. "Then he said, 'Hello, I'm back.'"
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Maybe so, but it's quite common. There are millions of Macintosh users who
have no idea what's in Apple's patented ROMs. Many have modems connected.
How do you know all your business secrets aren't being stolen? Answer:
1. Because you trust Apple;
2. Because if any such attempt, however sophicsticated, came out, it would
destroy Apple's credibility forever.
In the Clipper case, a representative body of experts is going to be allowed
to audit it, and we'll have assurances (maybe even from the President) that
other than the escrowed keys there are no back doors. While some may not
have confidence in that (I am not among them), it's a lot more assurance
than we get for many things we routinely trust in everyday life.
David
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Hi all netters,
If I upgrade my XT with a 286+ motherboard, will I be able to use the old
bits and pieces like HD, FD, graphics card and I/O card etc. Thanks for you
info.
P.S. I am sorry if my question is on some kind of FAQ.
regards,
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... there was a post originating from Russia advertising large quantities
of red mercury for sale - stirred up a bit of controversy at the time.
Then, this morning, NPR relates the news of a corruption scandal involving
the russian defense minister (among others), selling defense items, among
which (strangely enough), was red mercury.
you don't suppose?????
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This is indeed true. I prefer Windows NT. It is certainly much better
than Microsoft Windows 3.1/DOS.
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I am revamping some computer-aided visual inspection systems which
use the old AT&T Targa-16 Board Set (2 cards) to display images from
a color CCD camera to a color monitor, providing the option to overlay
text or a crosshair. No image capture or manipulation is performed,
just display. I would like to know if there is still a source for
development libraries which would allow me to embed commands in my
own software to enable the camera, draw crosshairs, print text, etc.
I'll be glad to pay if they are commercially available. E-Mail if
possible.
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Interesting. Tell us, what happens if I were to say OK, I want to have
something else. If the law enforcement wants my traffic, they can record
it, then get a search warrant, and get the keys FROM ME, just like they
would the keys to a stout private safe, etc. (Lets say I suspect that
there is a way to trivially crack this at the Fed level, with no warrant,
say for NSA scanning for keywords, etc., and the government has abused
great power in the past...).
So I say "Mr Vendor, I want something different, independent. I am
a paranoid sort, ya understand...".
Will the result be "Sorry, without Government permission, we cannot sell
you anything secure", or would it be "Sorry, we know which side our
bread is buttered on, we cannot sell except to government people, law
enforcement, and 'special' people...".
What, in your opinion, would be the chances of "sure, we will sell you
this secure system ... be happy to..."
Also, please be so kind as to tell us what the plans are for private
encryption of, say files transferred by modem, or FTP, or data stored
on disk? SURELY you have a feel for what the administration is planning
for us people on that.... With your rather intimate relationship with
the FBI, NSA, etc. you must CERTAINLY have an idea. You are surely
not going to say "the people are not to know, until it is too late..."
This IS supposed to be government of the people by the PEOPLE, isn't
it? That is, the people ARE the government's BOSSES? The BOSSES
want to know what the *@()#*&(@ is going on here...
You see, I am kind of nervous, because in the last month or so, I have
seen a non-stop stream of ideas coming out of Wash DC that at least
appear VERY STRONGLY to have a common trait to limit privacy (freedom
from Govt eavesdropping), and the ability to defend ourselves against
violent attack (no, 911 is *NOT* good enough for 'common folk', they
arrive only in time to clean up the mess: I would be DEAD if I had to
depend on 911...). You see, with all that talk about National smart
ID cards, limiting of encryption to 'government approved', denial of
means to effective personal defense (EIGHT bills in congress right now),
it looks an AWFULLY lot like the whole thing is to be able to trace
EVERY ACTIVITY of an individual from cradle to grave. All it would take
is requiring that National ID card to be used in all transactions...
and with no effective data protection, and with the people suitably
disarmed, there would not be a helluva lot they could do about it, now
would there? All in the name of the War on the Constitu ... er ...
drugs, and of course that catch word 'terrorists'. What is wrong with
good OLD-FASHIONED POLICE WORK to build a case? They don't want to
have to be burdened to leave the office, it seems...
Please read the Bill of Rights (first ten amendments to the US
Constitution) and tell us how you can reconcile this Big Brother-ish
policy of the Administration (always for a 'crisis' of some kind, isn't
it?) with that Bill of Rights in the context of the people who wrote
it?
Reassure us - please... (or is that no longer regarded as necessary,
seeing as apparantly the people have NO input on this agenda, the
Administration preferring to make all the DECISIONS in secret, then
springing it on us...). Doesn't sound much like ... by the PEOPLE
to me. I cannot help notice that the congress people involved were
NOT mentioned on the press release. I find that more than a little
bit curious, don't you? I sure would like to know who to not vote
for come election time...
Yes, I am upset. I feel you are a part of this, because I recall it
was you that was posting HEAVILY in favor of a very similar idea (could
have been the SAME thing, it was so close) a few months ago... I
also recall it was not well received. Apparantly powers-that-be
really didn't care (or were not told, or both).
From what I see, Clipper will ONLY be useful for conversations I don't
want the neighborhood kid listening in on. Any SERIOUS security I don't
think I would want to trust it a bit. Might as well use cleartext.
Certainly corporations would be rather dumb to depend on this for serious
trade-secret data, especially if millions depended on that security.
Given enough money, one could BUY any keys they wanted. Buy a crooked
judge, and a crooked cop. Given a few hundred thou, they wouldn't be
hard to find. So, we end up with only criminals, terrorists, and the
Government with real security, and the ability to eavesdrop. You know
the first two, if they are serious, ain't going to use this thing for
THEIR communications. I bet the government won't, either (except perhaps
to order a pizza).
Tell us, will that be prima face evidence of criminal activity,
someone not using the 'government approved' methods? That just a desire
to have PRIVACY is no longer regarded as a legitimate right of an
unconnected citizen? Will that be grounds for a fly-through-the-door
raid, and confiscation of all one's equipment, as 'terrorist tools',
using civil forfeiture, so there will be no inconvenient need to
PROVE any wrongdoing on the part of the citizen?
I have yet another question, are we going to see articles in all the
public magazines, consisting of soothing text telling us how great
this is, how nice the government is by LETTING us have this illusion
of privacy? That the government is going to be so kind as to let
us 'sort of' exercise a RIGHT? What you want to bet that I am
correct here?
Please answer these questions. As citizens of the United States, we
hava a RIGHT to know what our Government plans to 'let' us have
out of the goodness of their hearts...
Funny thing, though - with all these proposals, I don't feel ONE BIT
safer from drug dealers, terrorists, or a common street thug. I am
beginning to wonder if the greater danger lies in the above entities,
or our own government gone out of control?
Re-assure us, please. So far, I haven't seen much to reassure me...
and a LOT to greatly disturb me.
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Please cite specific examples where an Arab party member was rejected
while a Jewish party member was accepted. If you examine these I am
sure you will discover that the Arab party member did not have the power
base that his Jewish counterpart had. The party structure in Israel
has changed quite a bit insofar as knesset member elections go. Knesset
members for most parties are now elected via primaries. The top standing
members end up with cabinet posts. This is purely a political power
issue. Check the ranking of Arab labor party members, as opposed
to Jewsih members and let me know which posts are held by Jews that
ranked lower in the party than their Arab fellow electees.
Once again, if for arguments sake, all the Arab Israelis were to vote
for Labor at the next election, you can rest assured that the number of
Arab MKs and cabinet members would increase proportionately to the
power shift.
You are overlooking the fact that they wield political power
as individuals based upon a wider collective power base.
The reasoning I see at work is purely political. As far as security
goes I think that some serious gaffs were made by right wing Jews
as well - e.g. Sharon.
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[Posting the text of H.R. 711 ...]
[ ... ]
[ ... ]
Note that this is a "licensing bill," pretending to be a "training bill."
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Jesus did not say that he was the fulfillment of the Law, and, unless
I'm mistaken, heaven and earth have not yet passed away. Am I mistaken?
And, even assuming that one can just gloss over that portion of the word
of Jesus, do you really think that "all is accomplished?"
Then why didn't Jesus say "Any Jew who annuls ..." in v. 19? Are you
saying that all of Jesus' recorded words mean nothing to Gentiles? Are
you really saying that Jesus only spoke for and to the Jews? Jesus
didn't mention your name, does that mean he wasn't speaking to you? When
you read the words of Jesus, do you think he is speaking to someone
other than you?
You said above that Jesus was the "fulfillment" of the Law. Are you
saying that does not mean "doing away with the Law"?
Gen3:15(JPS) I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between
your offspring and hers; they shall strike at your head, and you shall
strike at their heel.
Gen3:15(NRSV) I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your
offspring and hers; he will strike your head, and you will strike his
heel."
Gen3:15(KJV) And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and
between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt
bruise his heel.
Looks like your translation has taken a few liberties with the Word?
Only "helping the Jewish people?"
You are using your interpretation of Paul as an argument against the
clear words of Jesus?
"Re-expressed?" Care to define that a bit better?
What? Are heaven and earth gone away? Where did they go? Is all
accomplished, for example Revelations? Explain please.
Again, your interpretation of Paul versus the clear word of Jesus. Do
you see any problems here? When did heaven and earth go away? When was
all accomplished?
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I heard a story on the local sports news broadcast in Edmonton.
Oiler owner Peter Pocklington will be holding a press conference
next week. While the exact details are not known, it is believed
to concern the Oiler's future.
Rumour has it that Pocklington signed a tentative lease arrangement
with Copps Collesium in Hamilton. During the press conference,
Pocklington may announce the deal. It is quite possible that
the deal may simply be a way to force Edmonton Northlands to
renegotiate the Oiler lease on the stadium.
Northlands has offered to buy the Oilers for $65 million earlier,
but the offer was rejected immediately by Pocklington.
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really the way it should be)
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David, given the proposition of the first first paragraph, the conclusion of
the second *should* read:
^^^^^^^
Which completely overturns your argument. To not see this requires an
unbelievable degree of stupidity or naivete on your part. Perhaps it's time
for you to own up and say which spook agency you work for...
- --Paul
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this is off the subject but,
Don't the numbers in the car names above refair to the engine size in
liters? i.e. ls400 = 4.0litre engine, sc300 = 3.0 liter "Sport Coupe"..
and Q45 = 4.5liter.. (similar, kinda, to BMW and MB nameing deal).
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Don't forget Chemical Abstracts Service (which is pretty much the international
clearinghouse for all chemical information), whose former director (Ronald
Wigington) and head of R&D (Nick Farmer) were openly former NSA employees.
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Flash over is a frequent occurrence with indoor fires. A fire will
start small and in one location and heat the air. The temperature in
the room builds up and then everything inflammable in the room catches
fire at once.
This may have occurred in the BD compound, I have heard reports that
the windows were covered which would permit a fire to start unnoticed
by those outside the compound. When the fire got big enough, and
broke through the walls, it appeared to be started in two places but
was really one big fire.
Because of the large quantities of tear gas inserted into the building
it is possible that many of the women and children were in a room free
of tear gas they would try to seal the door to keep out the tear gas.
When they learned that a fire had broken out it was too late for them
to escape. They were trapped by the flames in their safe room.
I find it hard to believe that the FBI was not recording the final
assault. I think that they would have wanted to have tapes to show
their agents of the the FBI overcoming the "forces of evil", aka
the Branch Davidians. The tapes would also allow the FBI to prove
that they were not using excessive force.
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Since Image Writer LQ was discontinued, there is no Apple Talk
printer with 11"*15" continous paper printer.
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I read a mesg. somewhere on GENIE about Intel coming out with a
graphics standard called PCI, which would supplant VESA standards. Is
this a rumor, or is there some substance to it. If any of y'all have
heard of this "standard" please e-mail me on how I might obtain more info
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Hi ppl,
I am running XFree386 under Linux SLS1.0 and am trying to get the german
keyboard working. I have already recompiled my kernel and the german
keyboard in the textmode works just fine.
I have found out, that there is a preconfigured german keymap for X
called Xmodmap.gr in /usr/lib/X11, so I ran xmodmap /usr/lib/X11/Xmodmap.gr.
My first impression was very good, I was able to get Z and Y straight :)
There's still a little problem I can't solve however:
I cannot get at the backslash, bar, brackets and curly brackets.
The ALT-GR key doesn't seem to work.
I tried xev to find out whether it produces an event at all and it does.
Looking up its keycode (113) in the Xmodmap I found the entry "Mode_switch"
which doesn't ring any bell. The entries for the keys I cannot use seem
to be correct. Example: keycode XX = ssharp questn backslash
The first 2 entries I can even get at. The first one is the unmodified
key and the second is the key with shift, but what is the 3rd??
My guess is that it should be the key with ALT-GR but it isn't.
If anybody has run into similar problems and knows how to solve them,
help would be appreciated.
CU
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Umm, weren't you the one objecting to someone who is a "licensed
physician" being called a quack? Or is it just that being a licensed
physician is a good defense against charges of quackery when the
physician agrees with your system of beliefs?
Actually, I almost never use the term quack. When I discuss
"systemic yeast syndrome", however, I always point out that
mainstream medicine views this as a quack diagnosis (and I agree
with that characterization).
Really? I bet virtually everyone reading these posts understands what
Steve Dyer, Gordon Banks, and I am implying when we have talked about
systemic yeast syndrome as a quack diagnosis. Would you prefer the
word "charlatan"? (I don't happen to think that all quacks are
charlatans since I suspect that some believe in the "diseases" they
are diagnosing.)
Why? Is there some reason why you feel that it shouldn't be pointed out
in SCI.med that there is no convincing empirical evidence to support the
existence of systemic yeast syndrome?
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Nobody ever produced the meagerest evidence for this. It does not
appear in several long published accounts by Irgun participants.
Even some Irgun propagandists do not make this claim.
Several members of the Irgun attacking party, including the leader,
deposited personal declarations in the Irgun archives (Jabotinsky
Institute, Tel-Aviv) which state that the Lehi proposed to "liquidate
the village after the conquest". It seems the Begin overruled
this plan, however the willingness of many of the attackers to
seriously consider this possibility serves as instructive
character evidence.
The Haganah tried to get the Irgun to attack a village with
real military significance, but it was considered too hard.
The soft target of Deir Yassin was chosen instead.
There was intention (probably originating with Begin) to give such
a warning but the loudspeaker truck got stuck in a ditch before
reaching the village. Everyone knows that.
By all rational standards, you should be posting from b-cpu.
A lie repeated is still a lie.
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When you buy insurance where you live, it is based on the local rates.
Tourists coming from, say, Utah will find that there is a difference
in what their insurance will cover FOB Provo and what they get stuck
with at Lenox Hill or Mount Sinai if they fall ill in the Big Apple.
It would depend on where you live, downtown Toronto or Mile 101,
British Columbia (just like Cheyenne, WY vs. Boston, MA). Again,
geography rears its ugly head.
Since our health care providers are private, they depend on an
adequate market size in order to sustain enough business. Since
our health care professionals have equivalent take-home pay to
their American cousins, it's not that they're being paid too
little to provide services.
I have only hear Americans say that it's illegal ... but I could be
wrong, just have never heard it from a Canadian source. our private
insurance has recently balked in Quebec when the Liberals proposed
privatizing some aspects of routine care ... also, our insurance was
put in place when no NDP (Labour) governments were in power in any
province to derail the effort 'cos they wanted real socialized
medicine.
No, it is optional ... as it is optional for doctors to accept it.
There are isolated religeous communities in particular that ask for
exemptions (and one e-mail from a Christian Scientist in Edmonton
verified for me that it is indeed negative option). I guess that you
can argue that there is a right to having a particular insurance, but
so far I've not come across that up north ... and I take pains to keep
tabs with news from home.
Believe me, they probably had orgasms when they figured that out. And
according to my sister the yuppie, they pat themselves on the back to
the point of ungraciousness at Chamber of Commerce luncheons.
I actually have doubts that any new ones have emerged since WW I ...
no, scratch that ... there are a few in Western Canada, and *quite*
a few in Quebec as part of the post-1980 Quebec Miracle (out with the
nationalism, in with the French capitalism). La Groupe des Cooper-
antes built a new tower by the Eaton('s) store at Les Terraces, and if
you were able to catch Urban Angel on CBS's Crimetime you'd see it as
the well-lit one with double-turrets at the top. As for Ontario,
which still dominates and anchors business up north ...
Canada is a very old-money kind of place, and the 1989 Free Trade
Agreement saw a lot of odd alliances: labour unions and establishment
old money who wanted to preserve their traditional monopolies on one
side, and entrepreneurs and internationally oriented businesses and
professionals on the other. The final Trudeau administration and
the first Mulroney government had a high percentage of nouveaux
riches who knew what it was like to make your own money, and that
motivated the McDonald Commission under Trudeau which set up Brian's
initiative (Macaroni was against free trade 'til he did a head count
of his caucus after the 1984 election).
Well, you have to realize that in our society that's like saying
that "it's not really national defence" because you can't hire
your own Rambo squad instead or even opting out as a pacifist.
(BTW, there are always pacifists in the news arguing about their
portion of taxes, but never people arguing over health insurance
alternatives ... and we're talking about a press that is hostile
to whomever is in government, regardless of party; one of their
few redeeming characteristics, it seems (-;).
The only way to hit at the Canadian system is transient periods of
high demand, which is more a function of the doctors monopoly's tight
fist on the licencing. An obvious difference is that in such a
transient period, the rationing is of the nature of a mob battling
over Cabbage Patch Dolls^TM as we've seen recently as opposed by
rationing by ability to pay ... but the former is a *transient*
situation and if a large body of insured patients were to deluge the
California health infrastructure, the same would result --- rationing
among the insured population. With smaller markets, there is much
less flexibility when dealing with our insured population than
California (which by the way, has 1/3rd more people than Canada in a
MUCH more dense area). So he is correct in that the resources are
fixed (for a particular time window, or as a function of the doctors
monopoly licencing according to the market steady state) in either
case. As for being "refused treatment" the government of the day
would be shredded to tatters if something like that were to happen;
Canadians can be geographically bad, too, not realizing that their
health care is private while only their insurance isn't ... too many
people have bought into socialist trype that we have socialized
medicine.
Right, as I've pointed out above ...
Either way, the transient situations are hard to deal with since the
changes in the private medical care resource take place at a slower
rate than the ability of people to fall sick esp. in the light of
disasters (e.g., Chernobyl) or bad luck (a sudden wave of heart
disease). A doctor needs 4-6 years of training, plus internship
and specialty training.
That's why I've argued for deductible and copayments rather than
education, which is what most Canadian fiscal conservatives are
arguing for (the leftists? "Ah, just let 'em spend!" --- yeah,
right!). Also, note that only a few provinces cover prescriptions
under some high dollar threshold ... in most, it's your private
insurance that covers it just like in the U.S. Still, it all
adds up in the OECD measures.
We get the Sabres' feed as a replacement game on ESPN tonight (the
Devils' local metro NY coverage supplants the main ESPN game).
Yeah, it's a sad story and Saskatchewan Tory leader Grant Devine
has been on a nonstop PR campaign to save his sorry butt. The
Sask NDP have taken a neo-conservative turn like Hawke, Gonzalez
and Mitterand did.
The medical IRA would have limited use, as you'd need a lower
catastrophic threshold else there'd still be a drain on the public
purse if someone exhausts their IRA. Also, Singapore has a much
more autocratic mentality which has seaped down into its masses
(if Singaporeans that I've met are any indication ... I don't
mean any disprespect here) where they'd let you just die.
That's true ... the question is how much leeway is there between
the U.S. approach and the second-most capitalist approaches of
Canada, France and Germany.
Yes, many ... and pretty close to a lot of smaller towns or not too
far from a bigger town. Just take a look at a detailed atlas ...
or better, take a flight from Pittsburgh or Rochester to Toronto.
My first time across Lake Ontario to NYC, I was amazed by the
increase in density ... and the Toronto region is the densest
in all of Canada.
It's about time! I've ragged on my own doctor friends as to why they
don't invest in their own private practices ... in the end, it's their
money. But they choose to spend it on America's Cup pipedreams, and
that's none of my business. As for "provincially owned" ... for sure
it's against the law in Canada for governments to be directly involved
in the provision of health care except in the military or native reser-
vations. What that term actually means is that the facility gets by
on public grants to meet shortfall from *lack of use* ... no kidding.
Medical practice itself is much more conservative up north. My own
best friend did two clerkships at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN,
and is no stranger to high tech medicine ... but his boat comes first.
No, it's probably socialist whiners who are offended that we have
private practices ... and always have. They can all take cash
anyways ... so why not have a particular facility? The Canadian
big government mentality often imagines government where it does
not even exist ...
Since the French and Germans have become more entrepreneurial and less
laidback without sacrificing their culture and values, then Canadians
can do the same. As I've pointed out above, the law states that it is
illegal for the *government* to provide any health services except for
the military and natives.
Look, nobody stopped the clinic when they planned on the MRI ...
nobody stopped them when they bought it. Nobody seems to be stopping
them from using it, either. Much ado about nothing. Thank goodness
that hockey playoffs have started ...
I'm certain there is exaggeration somewhere, because the GAO study
of Canada cited often on USENET did not find access to MRI to be a
problem. I'll bet the doctor is relying on people having listened
to American trash talk on cable so that he can puff his chest a bit.
There are already a few treatment regimens for knee injuries without
relying on MRI ... unfortunately, I've had a few. )-; And I'm not
a banker. (-;
gld
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