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I'm trying to get a hold of an IBM Quietwriter II printer driver for Windows 3.1. If such a beast exists, can someone suggest how I get it? Please mail me a reply directly as I don't normally read this group. Many thanks.
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Yeah, it's impossible to be a tough biker when a 5 year old starts waving at you.
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Sounds as though you are confused between "what I want" and "what I think is morally right".
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It depends on wether you are going to replace this with an icon that comes standard with windows, or with an icon from some other icon manager. Well, if it is one of those that comes with windows, just highlight the item by clicking once on it, click on 'File' and then on 'Properties'. You should see a box which says 'Change icon'. Click on it. You are going to be presented with some icons (sometimes just one). If you don't like any of those presented, click on the 'browse' box, and look for the file 'moricons.dll' Select it. Browse through the icons presented, and just double click on your desired icon. If you want to replace it with an icon from some other icon manager, say iconPower for instance, open the icon manager at the bottom of your screen, where it will not block the application icon you wish to replace. When you have found your desired icon, click on it once, and while holding the mouse button down, pull this icon over the one you wish to change. And thats it! regards ___________________________________________________________________________
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I do not understand what you are saying here. What is improved, what is Significant, and what does this have to do with carrying more equipment on a servicing mission? Also, as implied by other posters, why do you need to boost the orbit on this mission anyway? Maybe you have something here, but could you please clarify it for us on the net? From what I've heard, the motors are fine - it is one of the two sets of electronics that control the motors that needs a fix. The motors and electronics are separate pieces of hardware. I expect to be corrected if I'm wrong on this.
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close. Universal Asynchronous Receiver Transmitter. Even if you are running DOS, if your CPU can't handle the speed of the interrupts, you will still lose characters. I have one 286/10 machine with an external 9600 bps modem attached and can't drive the serial port any faster than 19.2k without losing characters. Rob
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I recall a discussion I had heard years ago. It went something like this: The problem with omnipotence (at least as I perceive it) as personified by the christian God ideal is that it is potentially contradictory. If a manifestation such as God is truly infinite in power can God place limits upon itself? . . Some stuff I can't recall. Then some other questions I think I recall correctly: Can God unmake itself? Can God make itself (assuming it doesn't yet exist)? Has God has always existed or is it necessary for an observer to bind all of Gods potential quantum states into reality? Was God nothing more than a primordial force of nature that existed during the earliest stages of universal (inflationary?) creation? Is God a vacuum fluctuation? Given a great enough energy density could we re-create God? Would that make US God and God something else? . . Some more stuff I don't recall concerning creating God. Followed by: Is God self-aware? Is it necessary that God be self-aware? Is God a living entity? Is it necessay that God be a living entity? Is God unchanging or does it evolve? . . Any comments? Post them so that others might benefit from the open inquiry and resulting discussion.
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True of all security sytems, I think, and it is the fundamental measure to be used in establishing a requisite security level. --
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C A L L F O R V O T E ------------------------- This is the official Call For a Vote on the creation of 3 newsgroups for those engaged or interested in all areas relating to the PUBLISHING OF ANY SORT OF CDROM MATERIAL. Please repost this CFV to any newsgroup, listserver or reflector that you think might have a group interested in this subject in order to reach as broad an audience as possible. Every vote counts, so make sure you register yours if you want these groups to be created. Proposed Groups --------------- comp.publish.cdrom.hardware comp.publish.cdrom.software comp.publish.cdrom.multimedia Status ------ Unmoderated. Voting Period ------------- From: The appearance of this posting To: 23:59 EST, 21 May 1993 How To Vote ----------- All votes must be emailed to: manaster@yu1.yu.edu or sent as a reply to the originator of this CFV (manaster@yu1.yu.edu). -To vote, simply copy the example below and delete either the "Yes" or the "No" before each group to register your vote for or against the creation of that group. A line containing "Yes/No" as in the example below, will be considered an abstention with respect to that particular group. Note that each group will have its own separate vote count and that you may split your vote for the groups or abstain as you will. Please provide your Name and E-mail address as shown in the example below. Email your vote following this example..... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Vote on comp.publish.cdrom.* I vote "Yes/No" for the creation of "comp.publish.cdrom.software" I vote "Yes/No" for the creation of "comp.publish.cdrom.hardware" I vote "Yes/No" for the creation of "comp.publish.cdrom.multimedia" [Last Name], [First Name] [(E-mail Address)] . ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Voting Rules ------------ -Only one vote per user (Two different people cannot vote under the same user name). -Any votes which are received before or after the voting period will be discarded. -Anyone who wants to change their previous vote may do so by voting again. They must indicate that they have previously voted and are changing their mind in a footnote. A changed vote will discard your previous vote. -Email messages sent to the above addresses must constitute unambiguous and unconditional votes for/against newsgroup creation as proposed. Conditional votes will not be accepted. -Only votes emailed to the above addresses will be counted; mailed replies to this posting will be discarded. -In the event that more than one vote is placed by an individual, only the first vote will be counted unless it was changed as above. -No information will be supplied as to how people are voting until the final acknowledgment is made at the end, at which time the full vote will be made public. Ambiguous Votes --------------- Ambiguous votes -- those who do not follow the specified format, or do not make clear the voter's intent, will, where possible, be returned to their senders for clarification. Ambiguous votes which cannot be returned to their senders or for which no clarification is provided will be identified in the final vote tally. Every Vote Counts........Feel free to Flood my mail!!! Rationale --------- The rationale for this proposal is a need for those interested or involved in the publishing of cdrom materials to have a forum for the discussion relating to their needs. At the moment the main fora for such discussion are in alt.cd-rom and comp.multimedia neither of which have publishing as their focus. Some lists serve the general cdrom community with focuses on library, government and network usage, and until several weeks ago none were devoted to publishing (CDPub has just been setup). In any case a list is not, and ought not, be a replacement for regular usenet newsgroups. The reason for the division into three groups is a natural partition of interest between the hardware and software topics, and between the two main focal points of software, i.e. fulltext and multimedia publishing. Topics such as CDROM XA, CDI, CD-R, Photo CD and other related formats would be included as well. Topics related to cdrom publishing that are neither clearly hardware or software related such as books, copyright issues and other legal matters, packaging, distribution, could be included in the purvue of comp.publish.cdrom.software, as would any other nonhardware or multimedia topic that relates in some way to cdrom publishing, in any format, and is appropriate to the Internet. The main focus of comp.publish.cdrom.software would be topics such as index and retrieval software, premastering software, cdrom simulation software, hypertext, sgml, scanning and imaging software, data capture software, data clean up, compression, encryption etc as relates to publishing cdroms. The main focus of comp.publish.cdrom.multimedia would be software that aids in the multimedia authoring and publishing process - audio and video. The main focus of comp.publish.cdrom.hardware would be hardware that relates to cdrom publishing, as well as hardware for data capture, such as all sorts of scanners and data capture hardware, as well as information that publishers need to know about the hardware that the intended enduser will utilize (the hardware that will eventually play the published cdrom) including networks for cdrom. Notes ----- These groups are not to be used for topics such as reviews or questions relating to already published cdroms or reviews or questions relating to general purpose cdrom drives and the like. Requests for help in installing a cdrom drive and other general topics should be directed to other fora. Questions about cdroms mounted on LANs should be directed to bit.listserv.cdromlan. Charter ------- Proposed Charter -- COMP.PUBLISH.CDROM.SOFTWARE The USENET newsgroup, comp.publish.cdrom.software, will be a newsgroup for discussion of the following example topics, but not limited to them: Index and retrieval software Authoring software Scanning and imaging software OCR and OCR cleanup Hypertext SGML Premastering and Simulation (cdrom) software Copyright and legal issues related to publishing cdroms Other nonhardware topics related to cdrom publishing Proposed Charter -- COMP.PUBLISH.CDROM.HARDWARE The USENET newsgroup, comp.publish.cdrom.hardware, will be a newsgroup for discussion of the following example topics, but not limited to them: CD-R equipment Data capture hardware Scanners Video and audio capture hardware Networking hardware Midi hardware Photo CD hardware Publishing systems CDI and DVI hardware Compression and encryption hardware Keyboarding Other hardware publishing topics Proposed Charter -- COMP.PUBLISH.CDROM.MULTIMEDIA The USENET newsgroup, comp.publish.cdrom.multimedia will be a newsgroup for discussion of the following example topics, but not limited to them: Multimedia authoring software Imaging software Audio and Midi software Color control software Video editing software Audio editing software Multimedia utilities useful for publishers Integration of text, image, audio and video Compression and encryption of multimedia Multimedia copyright and related legal issues Multimedia databases and hypertext Other multimedia publishing topics
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> I'm leaning... SIRACH... is more directly referenced by JAMES > than JOB or RUTH is... in any NT verse I've seen. It would help if you mentioned chapter and verse from SIRACH and from JAMES. Job 5:13 ("He taketh the wise in their craftiness") seems to be quoted in 1 Corinthians 3:19. James 5:11 ("You have heard of the patience of Job"), while not a quote, implies that James and his listeners are familiar with a story of a man named Job who exhibited exemplary patience. It is possible that the story they know is not that found in the Hebrew Bible, but rather another similar and related story. (One has the same problem with direct quotes.) Again, Matthew 1:5 ("Boaz begat Obed of Ruth") tells us that Matthew knew a story about a woman named Ruth who married a man called Boaz and became the ancestor of David. Since Ruth is not mentioned in the OT outside the Book of Ruth, it seems likely that Matthew was familiar with the book and respected it, and thought Ruth important enough to be one of the few women mentioned in the genealogy. References like this do not prove that the NT writer considered his OT source inspired or inerrant or canonical. But neither do direct quotes.
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I don't know about you, but I have nearly forgotten how to generate paper mail. If I had e-mail to Congress, I would have written many letters by now. I haven't written one yet, as it turns out. Writing on paper is such a complicated job, for those of us hooked on our way-cool Internet.
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Alltronics in San Jose (408) 943-9773 sells the Votrax Sc-01 Speech Synthesis chip for about $5.00. Also I noticed that Radio Shack sells the ISD chip which will store small amounts of digitized speech.
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Bzzzzzt! Wrong answer. The UK tone dialling is identical to the US system. The different settings on your modem are so that it uses CCITT V21 & V22 tones for data transmission, rather than Bell 103 & Bell 121 tones, which are used only in the USA and canada AFAIK. As most people now use at least V22bis, this is largely irrelevant. Tony
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What crap, Phil. 50mm? Wrong. To give you a clue as to how big 50mm is, the F-16 fighter aircraft have 20mm gattling guns used to shoot down other aircraft. A 50mm gun would be somewhere in the `cannon' realm. They might have had .50 calibre but definitely not 50mm. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Paul R. Busta Busta@kozmic.enet.dec.com Salem,N.H. 603-894-3962
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The following comics are for auction. The highest bid takes them! All are near mint to mint condition! TITLE Minimum/Current -------------------------------------------------------------- Alpha Flight 51 (Jim Lee's first work at Marvel) $ 5.00 Aliens 1 (1st app Aliens in comics, 1st prnt, May 1988) $20.00/KrisM./SOLD Amazing Spider-Man 136 (Intro new Green Goblin) $20.00 Amazing Spider-Man 238 (1st appearance Hobgoblin) $50.00 Archer and Armstrong 1 (Frank Miller/Smith/Layton) $ 7.50 Avengers 263 (1st appearance X-factor) $ 3.50 Bloodshot 1 (Chromium cover, BWSmith Cover/Poster) $ 5.00/SamE/SOLD CyberRad 1 (Reintro CyberRad, Prestige silver edition) $15.00 Daredevil 158 (Frank Miller art begins) $35.00 Dark Horse Presents 1 (1st app Concrete, 1st printing) $ 7.50 Detective 657 (Azrael appears, Intro Cypher) $ 5.00 Detective 658 (Azrael appears) $ 4.00 Harbinger 10 (1st appearance H.A.R.D. Corps) $ 7.00/B.Matthey/SOLD H.A.R.D. Corps 1 $ 5.00 Incredible Hulk 324 (1st app Grey Hulk since #1 1962) $ 7.00 Incredible Hulk 330 (1st McFarlane issue) $15.00 Incredible Hulk 331 (Grey Hulk series begins) $11.00 Incredible Hulk 367 (1st Dale Keown art in Hulk) $15.00 Incredible Hulk 377 (1st all new hulk, 1st prnt, Keown) $15.00 Marvel Comics Presents 1 (Wolverine, Silver Surfer) $ 7.50 Marvel Presents (Charleston Chew giveaway, Sam Keith) $ 5.00 Maxx Limited Ashcan (4000 copies exist, blue cover) $30.00 Mr T. #1 (Signed Advance copy, 10,000 exist) $10.00 New Mutants 86 (McFarlane cover, 1st app Cable - cameo) $10.00 New Mutants 100 (1st app X-Force) $ 5.00 New Mutants Annual 5 (1st Liefeld art on New Mutants) $10.00 Omega Men 3 (1st appearance Lobo) $ 7.50 Omega Men 10 (1st full Lobo story) $ 7.50 Power Man & Iron Fist 78 (3rd appearance Sabretooth) $20.00 Power Man & Iron Fist 84 (4th appearance Sabretooth) $15.00 Simpsons Comics and Stories 1 (Polybagged special ed.) $ 7.50 Spectacular Spider-Man 147 (1st app New Hobgoblin) $12.50 Spider-Man Special (UNICEF giveaway, vs Venom) $10.00 Star Trek the Next Generation 1 (Feb 1988, DC mini) $ 7.50 Star Trek the Next Generation 1 (Oct 1989, DC comics) $ 7.50 Trianglehead #1 (Special limited edition, autographed) $ 5.00 Web of Spider-Man 29 (Hobgoblin, Wolverine appear) $10.00 Web of Spider-Man 30 (Origin Rose, Hobgoblin appears) $ 7.50 Wolverine 10 (Before claws, 1st battle with Sabretooth) $15.00 Wolverine 41 (Sabretooth claims to be Wolverine's dad) $ 5.00 Wolverine 42 (Sabretooth proven not to be his dad) $ 3.50 Wolverine 43 (Sabretooth/Wolverine saga concludes) $ 3.00 Wolverine 1 (1982 mini-series, Miller art) $20.00 Wonder Woman 267 (Return of Animal Man) $12.50 X-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, X-Force card) $20.00 X-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Shatterstar card) $10.00 X-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Deadpool card) $10.00 X-Force 1 (Signed by Liefeld, Bagged, Sunspot/Gideon) $10.00 All comics are in near mint to mint condition, are bagged in shiny polypropylene bags, and backed with white acid free boards. Shipping is $1.50 for one book, $3.00 for more than one book, or free if you order a large enough amount of stuff. I am willing to haggle. I have thousands and thousands of other comics, so please let me know what you've been looking for, and maybe I can help.
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Gravity? Doesn't gravity pull down the photons and cause a doppler shift or something?
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Victor Johnson, on the Thu, 22 Apr 1993 00:01:10 GMT wibbled: : > }Honda: a "V" designates a V engine street bike. "VF" for V-4, "VT" for V-twin. : > : > So how about my Honda Hawk (NT 650)? It's a twin, but not called a VT. : > -- : That's because they took the old VT 500 engine and stepped on it to make : the plant for the Hawk -> "New Twin". Or does that only fly for Microsoft : NT (New Technology)? : I've been at this too long today ... : Cheers, : Victor "Dances with Hawks" Johnson : ---------------------------------- Also the BMW stuff. K100RS. K = Kraut, RS = Really Slow, 100, I suppose that's how much you have to spend each week to keep the damn thing on the road. -- Nick (the Pissed Off With His Bike Again Biker) DoD 1069 Concise Oxford M'Lud.
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Hi, I 've a series of images in sun raster formats. I've converted them to PCX formats (I can do the conversion to others like gif as well). I would like to know of any software that is able to do animation for these formats, and to record the animation onto a video tape. Thank you. +_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+_+
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Suppose you want to change the particular icon for a program in windows such as the MS-DOS one. Would someone let me know how you can do this? Thanks a million.
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I am think of buying a new computer through the mail order, I am looking at the Gateway 2000 66V systen and the Zeos's system. Which is better (in terms of value, price, ungrade, service), because I am in canada, I wonder can i have the same level of service as in the states?
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Huh? Mohamed Salimeh was perhaps a Korean? How do you claim arab-americans had no involvement in the WTC bombing? Ok, his involvement is alleged by the FBI, which doesn't seem to reliable these days. But honestly, there is a pile of evidence pointing to them, and it seems those 5 were involved. This does not mean that all arab-americans were involved, nor should they be blamed for it, but denying that there were some arab-americans involved sounds sorta silly to me. Adam Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu
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Do all those who are saying the government is responsible for the death of those in the compound also say that the Isrealis are responsible for the death of the Isreali athletes at the Olympics? Hey, the Palestinians and the Dividians COULD have given up peacefully ('yeah, and monkey could fly out my butt' - Wayne).
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Hello. I just like to share this rosary and other prayer propagation practice we do in my country. I am not sure if it is going on also here in the US or any other country. In all these 4 1/2 yrs. I've been here in Illinois, USA, I have not encountered it. May I just call it "Traveling Fatima" since I don't know of an exact translation of what we call it in my native language. For certain regions in a district in a town or city, an image/ statue of our Lady of Fatima is moved from one home (originating from owner) to another. This will stay with that family for one (1) week and this family is required to pray the rosary and other prayers (prayer sheets accompany the image) to our Lady of Fatima. The move will be like a simple procession of folks picking up the image from its current 'home' after 'departing' prayers and proceeds to move it to the next home which has the prior notification about the move. There will be the 'receiving' prayers at the next home to welcome our Lady of Fatima image there. It does not have to be that only members of the family in that home who must pray to the image. They may invite others (or others/friends can invite themselves in ;^)) to participate during prayer time in that 'new' home everyday for one week. This image is moved from one family to the next within the bounded region of that district, until it goes back to the owner of the image. This is probably going on around there (Philippines) right now (or somebody correct me when exactly since I forgot) and every year, this is part of our devotion to our Lady of Fatima. It has been easy to facilitate this back home because it is more likely that your next door neighbor is a Catholic and the image then is just moved next door. I am thinking of starting something like it in the village where my sister and her family lives. Most of our friends and neighbors there are Catholics and practicing ones. I'd like to know if there are any state/community laws that this practice will violate, whatsoever, before I go for it. Thank you for any comments or help about this matter.
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OK. I know I look pretty desperate on this bboard. I think I have posted 3 or 4 messages already on the issue of NHL telecats over the last few weeks. But, hey. I am pretty desperate. What I am interested is not just a sportsbar with multiple screens so thast I can watch the game on one of those silent screens. Are there any hockey oriented bars in this area. Or does some Patrick division or Adams division fan have a satellite dish? I don't mind paying an admission fee, if necessary.
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What is the proper way to dispose of old blessed palms? I`ve have a bunch that I`ve been holding onto. In addition, my mom has been giving me her's. I used to give them to my uncle who would burn them (and leave the ashes to seep into the ground). Should I do the same? Could I just bury them? Could I add them to my compost bin? Thanks in advance.
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pete zakel is right, we don't need to worry about capitalization rules. after all, the punctuation gives all the necessary information about the sentence structure. why should anyone worry about whether the text is as close to the original as possible. (sarcasm intended). Then you didn't understand my grumble... Again, I said to get a CORRECT version of the Constitution. The first indicator that something is wrong (i.e. the copy has been modernized) is the modern capitalization rules. The next thing to go is the spelling, and then I've even seen versions where the GRAMMAR was modernized (oh, but don't worry, modernizing the grammar won't change the meaning of the text, right?... ;-) [p.s. I have found about 10 *different* versions of the Constitution on the network; And accuracy DOES matter...] -- Charles Scripter * cescript@phy.mtu.edu Dept of Physics, Michigan Tech, Houghton, MI 49931
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Bye. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Nothing is as inevitable as a mistake whose time has Garrett Johnson come." --Tussman Garrett@Ingres.com "The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action." - Unknown
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One usual suggestion is to put everything into your every-time shell rc-file instead of your login-only one, which is fair enough if you only have a few users who know what they're doing. If you have several hundred users who do what the books tell them, though, then it's confusing at best. Another is to have your xterms run login shells, but that still leaves the window manager and the things that get started from its menus with the wrong environment. Our alternative is that instead of having xdm run the client startup scripts, it runs the user's favourite shell as a login shell, and has *it* then run the rest of the startup scripts. That way the user's usual environment gets set up as normal and inherited by everything. You can find an almost-current copy of our scripts and things in contrib/edinburgh-environment.tar.Z, available from the usual places.
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Some countries have laws about importing crypto gear--I believe the U.S. does. Without a license the above scheme won't work (at least not legally) in such countries, including at least France and the U.S. David BZZT! Wrong. The US does NOT have crypto import laws. -derek
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What a JOKE! You can't actually believe what you just said. Can you? We bombed and invaded these countries. Notice the definition of war (from the American Heritage Dictionary): 1) A state or period of armed conflict between nations or states. This qualifies the invasions of Cambodia and Laos as wars. Then let me explain this to you REALLY slowly. Why did he abuse the powers of his position? Could it have been to gain personal political power? Naw, that would be too obvious. And anyone who can only call names because his position is defensless is breathtakingly ignorant and desperate. I noticed that you edited out the other points were I proved you and Phil to be completely wrong. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Death to all modifiers, he declared one day, and out of Garrett Johnson every letter that passed through his hands went every Garrett@Ingres.com adverb and adjective. The next day he made war on articles. The following day he blacked out everything in the letters but "a", "an", and "the". - Joseph Heller's Catch-22
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You fall if it opens, too. Gravity: it's not just a good idea; it's the law.
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What ever happened to the idea that the Customer is ALWAYS right? -- Joe
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[ . . .] I am a relativist who would like to answer your question, but the way you phrase the question makes it unanswerable. The concepts of "right" and "wrong" (or "correct/incorrect" or "true/false") belong to the domain of epistemological rather than moral questions. It makes no sense to ask if a moral position is right or wrong, although it is legitimate to ask if it is good (or better than another position). Let me illustrate this point by looking at the psychological derivatives of epistemology and ethics: perception and motivation, respectively. One can certainly ask if a percept is "right" (correct, true, veridical) or "wrong" (incorrect, false, illusory). But it makes little sense to ask if a motive is true or false. On the other hand, it is strange to ask whether a percept is morally good or evil, but one can certainly ask that question about motives. Therefore, your suggested answers (a)-(c) simply can't be considered: they assume you can judge the correctness of a moral judgment. Now the problem with (d) is that it is double-barrelled: I agree with the first part (that the "rightness" of a moral position is a meaningless question), for the reasons stated above. But that is irrelevant to the alleged implication (not an implication at all) that one cannot feel peace is better than war. I certainly can make value judgments (bad, better, best) without asserting the "correctness" of the position. Sorry for the lengthy dismissal of (a)-(d). My short (e) answer is that when two individuals grotesquely disagree on a moral issue, neither is right (correct) or wrong (incorrect). They simply hold different moral values (feelings).
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While also allowing law enforcement agencies to intercept phone conversations of criminals *and* non-criminals unlawfully. ("No, Rev. King, we aren't spying on you.") I wonder how long it will take for "the wrong people" to put their hands on the equipment necessary to read this stuff. It'll probably be as safe as weapons locked safely in evidence rooms. And people to whom they sell them to. All it takes is corrupting the right guy. No, that never happens.
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Hi, Can somebody tell me step by step how to add a 40Mb IDE Kalok? HD to an existing 120Mb IDE Maxtor HD with Stacker 3.0 and DOS 5? I know how to set the jumpers on the 40M to be slave and the settings for heads, wpcom, sectors, etc. I also know that I have to do some CMOS settings and fdisk. The problem is: what letter will the CMOS give the new drive? If it's D:, what will happen when Stacker creates D: and swap? Can I tell CMOS to make it E:? So that if I Stack it, I will have C, D, E and F? I know this could be an FAQ or in a readme somewhere, but I want to hear from somebody who've actually done it. Thanks! Romy
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(I have been having trouble posting this article from within tin for over a week. If you do get multiple copies, my apologies.) Here is a challenge to Microsoft or Microsort Supporters to defend the pathetic state of DOS 6 as an upgrade distribution -- it is a long story but would make good reading for those who are interested in knowing the potential pitfalls of "upgrading" to DOS 6 that I have been able to notice after only about a week of playing around with it. My envorinment ============== TI TravelMate 4000 WinSX (486SX/25) 4M Ram 120M Disk System BIOS version 1.03 05/21/92 by Texas Instruments CL-GD6420 VGA BIOS v 1.03 a1 by Cirrus Logic & Quadtel Advance Power Manager BATTERY.PRO v b6.00 by Texas Instruments Smart Drive Cache (WIN3.1/DOS6) Parameters: 2048 1024 a- b- Windows Benchmark WinBench(tm) v 3.11 02/11/93 by ZD Labs After "updgrading" to DOS 6, I could not understand why certain things became so slow, especially after I decided to try 'dblspace'. In the process of finding out why, I discovered some interesting things. Disk Performance with Double Space and Smart Drive ================================================== While most things did not appear to slow down most of the time, certain applications appeared to run very much slower. What was interesting is that commands like 'chkdsk' and 'defrag' were running far too slowly to consider them useful by any standards. I suspected Double Space (DS) and decided to measure its impact on my system using WinBench(tm). The Real Disk WINMARK of 20350 for the original system (as shipped from factory with DOS 5 and Windowws 3.1) became 10718 when "upgraded" to DOS 6 with DS. Thus there is an effective performance degradation of more than 50 percent which did not really surprise me because I knew that DS compression must cost something. Specifically, for short sequential reads up to 512 bytes, DS actually *improves* transfer rates by about 10% (because CPU being faster than I/O, more CPU cycles needed for DS is more than compensated by savings in I/O cycles). However, for all other cases, particularly large random writes, the transfers take up to three times as long. While the performance depends on the type of access (i.e random or sequential, small or large transfer units), on the average (based on WinBench's assumptions), the disk slows down to half its speed. The tests alone, done in 'real mode' (see WinBench) and with smartdrv on, do not say much except that it helps to put into those subjective statements like 'there is no noticable difference in performance' or even that 'it will speed up disk access when you have a fast CPU and slow disk I/O'. This explained why some applications ran markedly slower, but not why 'chkdsk' and 'defrag' (the latter especially) too so long. Double Space and Windows ======================== DBLSPACE will not run at all from within windows, not even if you wanted to only to get information, not modify anything, or for that matter even check on its usage -- try "fasthelp dblspace" in a dos box within windows and you will see what I mean from the error message you get. How narrow minded can a programer get, I wonder. Yes, this information can be obtained through the mstools.dd add-on to file manager, but this 'mstools' dll does not understand a compressed floppy! (Use the DOS 6 supplement utility to create a compressed floppy if you dont know how to.) DOS 6 Defragmenter is incompatible with TI APM ============================================== Defragmentation seemed to take too much time. Even so, I waited patiently till it finished and then ran it again to just to confirm. This confirmation 'dblspace /def' command for the 120M drive should take no more than 30 seconds (much faster on other defragmenters I have used) but it took 12 minutes. I discovered that if I moved the mouse, defragmentation checking ran faster (the % figure ticked more rapidly). It dawned on me that this had to do with TI's battery saver Advanced Power Management (APM) module which slows the clock down when it thinks that the CPU is idle, and it obviously thought DS defragmentation was an idle process! After disabling the TI's power saver, this operation took only 20 seconds. Microsft programmers think TI4000 and Gateway NOMAD users are idiots ==================================================================== In the readme.txt file, you can find the the following Running Microsoft Backup with TI4000 and Gateway NOMAD computers ---------------------------------------------------------------- To avoid a conflict between the Turbo feature and Microsoft Backup for Windows or MS-DOS, add a /L0 switch to the DEVICE command in your CONFIG.SYS that loads the BATTERY.PRO file. Or, before you run Microsoft Backup, type SETPOWER /L0 at the command prompt. If you checked TI's manual on the /L0 option, you will realise that it means "disable all power saving features of your notebook". Why would anyone want to run a driver disabled! As I have found out, not only does TI's power management interfere with Microsoft Backup as the readme.txt claims, but 'chkdsk' and 'dblspace' (and who knows what else) are crippled by the TI's power saver. It is obvious that there is not such thing as APM specifications. If there indeed is such a thing, then either Microsoft programmers or TI programmers dont know how to read these specifications. You dont have to guess as to who are the idiots. By the way, if you run the advance power management utility, POWER.EXE Power Management Status ----------------------- Setting = ADV: MAX CPU: idle 60% of time. This figure of 60% seems to be the steady state value on my notebook when I am running nothing (windows with only program manager in iconised form). Does that mean that Windows takes up 40% of my CPU all for itself, and that I have at best only 60% left for useful work? Is such an overhead justified (whether or not Windows is an operating system or just another user interface)? (In DOS alone, it reports 99% idle time.) Looks like Windows is a good example of busy waiting type of package that I like my students to study as the classical 'negative' example of our times! Microsoft programmers do not know batch programming =================================================== I like to structure my startup script and thus have the equivalent of addpath statements like this: set PATH=C:\DOS ... set PATH=C:\ETC\BIN;%PATH%;C:\BIN ... set PATH=C:\ETC\WINDOWS;%PATH%;C:\WINDOWS ... set PATH=%PATH%;C:\BCC\BIN ... set PATH=%PATH%;%MOUSE% Even though the new dos was installed in the same directory as the old one (i.e. c:\dos), DOS 6 installation program modifes each and every path statement, and prepends C:\DOS to its value. As a result, my resultant path has so many DOS's. If the installation program wanted to remove the old DOS path, and add the new DOS path, clearly it has to only scan for the path statement containg the old DOS directory and replace it by the new DOS path. (Even this should only be done if the new DOS is installed in a directory different from the old one being 'upgraded'.) Instead, the Microsoft programmer (if you can call this person one) decided to meddle every path statement I had in the autoexec and prepend DOS to the value. I wonder if Microsoft is so desparate that it would not fire programmers who are incapable of the thought process. I started a thread on this when DOS 4 came up, and the Microsoft representative in Singapore called me about this poster. In fact he specifically said his US counterparts saw the poster and relayed the information to him as he did not have access to internet. Now that has not changed one bit. In fact, if you have a PATH statement with %PATH% already in it, is it not obvious that the this statement should not be touched for any reason? As another example of the inability of Microsoft programmers to understand batch programming -- I had the mouse driver invoked as: set MOUSE=C:\ETC\MOUSE set PATH=%PATH%;%MOUSE% loadhigh %MOUSE%\MOUSE.COM Guess what MEMMAKER did? It replaced the last statement with LH ... C:\ETC\MOUSE\MOUSE.COM Why is it so difficult just to replace loadhigh with LH and its parameters, without touching the rest of the line, I do not understand. DOS 6 Software Quality ====================== DOS 6 is the only operating system I know, in which, under normal usage, you end up creating a file that you cannot get rid of using of the commands that come with it. I am deliberately being cryptic about this: I challenge Microsoft to use all its programmers to catch this bug and publish it. If they dont within a week, I will post how you can create this "ghost" file. Surely if I can pick this bug without even looking for it after using a particular command only twice, I am sure two dozen Microsoft (idiot) programmers randomly banging on their keyboards over a week could find it -- that is what I was told how Microsoft "tests the quality" of their products. I think it is funny that Microsoft has found ways to "test quality" when it is accepted in the industry that quality cannot be tested, but can only be built into the product. No wonder they cannot provide any form of guarantees on their products, not even a decent list of bugs that will prevent scores of user from destroying their disks beyond repair! Also, if you run 'dblspace /def' often enough, repeatedly when the disk is fully defragmented, you may get errors, that was created by the defragmenters. I got my IO.SYS file size error and it got truncated when I did the chkdsk. This happend only after five successive defragmentation efforst after the first one supposedly did its job and with no new file creation since. Microsft, dont you dare reply to this poster on the network until you admit that your DS has bugs, and are willing to let us know what we should watch out for if we have already used DS. Jaya
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There seems to be a P PDS slot in the above printers. What is it ?
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Drivel. I received delivery of my '93 Trans Am 7 weeks after I ordered (promised 6-8 weeks), and paid $400 over dealer invoice, which is a $1425 discount off of MSRP. I only have about 370 miles on it, but so far no problems, and it seems very well put together. By the way, first year production will be about 60,000 cars. Dealers would like you to think there is a shortage, but considering they only sold about 90,000 F bodies last year and the new model was introduced mid-year, that is not going to create a shortage. GM planning on ramping to about 160,000 F bodies next year (according to a WSJ article). Several people have mentioned seeing a photo of the '94 Mustang in Popular Mechanics. I saw a photo of it in Motor Trend January 1993 issue (p30). Direct side on view. Although they described it as a "seriously handsome car with broad shoulders," I thought it looked pretty boring in that view. Roofline reminded me of a Toyota Celica (yuch!). Description of mechanicals same as has been reported from the PM article.
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How about going to a doctor to get some minor surgery done. Doctor refuses to do it because it's ``to risky'' (still charges me $50!). I go home and do it myself. No problem. The ``surgery'' involved digging out a pine needle that had buried itself under my tongue.
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You have to do the same sorts of things that Xt does with its main loop. That is, you have to rig up a timer queue, and you have to put a select(2) or poll(2) call in your main loop. You can obtain the file descriptor of the X display connection using fd = ConnectionNumber (display);
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I have a clone almost with no name generating 91k xstones on a 486/33Mhz system. Excuse me, but with a 486/50 256k cache, S3 928 ISA card, 8Mb XS3 (X11R5) running 386bsd you can get 100k+ xstones at 1024x768 65Mhz which I doubt that your XP10 series gets. Commerical verions X servers for S3 928 cards can get 136k xstones. So the performance is there and additionally since is running unix multiple users can use the system which I have done in my home setup. Maintenance is minimal if you can read README files for the X servers and for 386bsd. Amancio Hasty
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1988 Toyota Supra, Fully loaded automatic. Maroon color with leather interior. Alpine stereo system with CD changer. Alpine car alarm 90,000 miles, great condition, one owner. Have to leave country in June. Asking $9,000 o.b.o. Please call (310) 212 - 5376 and ask for Cary. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bernard Lin Departmental Research Assistant Computing and Information Services Columbia Business School
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Need Diet for Diverticular Disease and ideas for gastrointestinal distress
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This is hell. Hasn't anyone noticed?
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ram.page, n.: To move about wildly or violently. A course of frenzied, violent action. Who assaulted who here, Phill? Do you remember exactly which side came out looking for trouble? So if it turns out that the fire WAS caused by a tank knocking over a Coleman lantern, you'll support punishing the "responsible" people, Phill? Or will you find then find a different reason to hang it all on Koresh? --
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If the FBI started the fire, why didn`t people flee the burning building?
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I'm wondering if I can tote my American touch tone phone around with me to Sweden and Germany. It's DC powered, and I can buy a special adapter for that in Europe. The question is if the general electronics work the same. I can buy a different wall plug and refit it (I'm sure I'd have to), but would that do the trick?
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Hello, I hope this is the right group to post this in. I've got a little problem. I finally managed to get a REAL operating system (Linux, as opposed to MS-Dos) and I like it alot. But, when I try to run 'startx', I get a strange response: My monitor goes into graphics mode and I get this big white rectangle on the screen - that's all! Nothing else! Now, I've collected almost every FAQ in the world to help me but either it's too confusing or I must be missing something. My setup: 386DX (about 20Mhz) Trident 8900C SVGA (w/1 Meg) 4 MB RAM Plenty of HD space Any help is appreciated. Thanx.
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Does antone know the ftp address for the Smithsonian Institution where one can get digitized photographs, etc ? Please reply by email to pbenson@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu Thanks
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I would have appreciated an announcement of the policy change - Dartmouth will not be able to run xv 3.0, and I'm probably going to have to take v2 off line (I somehow missed the "shareware" designation in the README of v2, and didn't realize that we were supposed to register). I also debate whether this, with the new "institutions must pay" policy belongs in the contrib directory on export - to me, "contrib" means "contributed" (i.e. no strings, except copyright) attached.
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Your source is wrong. The double speed CD300 is still slow compared to a typical hard disk. The LC can easily handle the SCSI transfer rate of the CD300. None of the current Macs, even the Quadras, support SCSI-2 unless you get a SCSI-2 Nubus Card. You don't have to have double speed to use PhotoCD. It's just faster reading images off of a disk. I think that the CD150 can handle PhotoCD, but only single session. The CD300 can do multisession PhotoCD.
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We were told that the resolution on the 5FGe could only go to 1024x768. And that the 5 FG could go to 1152x870. Has anybody tried running these higher resolutions?? Somewhere I thought I read that the 1152x870 on a 17" monitor may make the type too small to read. Any help would be appreciated. Steve
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The Christian Reformed Church does not allow people to belong to lodges, the Reformed Church in America does. The conservatives in both churches are very similar, as are the "progressives". The RCA currently ordains women; the CRC is fighting over the issue.
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Sorry Mike! What defensemen would the Wings be willing to give up for Beezer?
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While I agree that Lemieux deserves the Hart, it is far from a "no-brainer". The Hart trophy goes to the player most valuable to his team, not to the best player in the league. So your above arguement is really worthless. The Pens without Mario are still a damn good hockey team. The Leafs without Gilmour would have been fighting Tampa Bay for the 3rd pick. Like I said, Mario deserves it, IMHO. But it is a very close race and a Gilmour victory would not surprise me. I dislike Doug Gilmour with a passion, but I must concede that he is extremely valuable to the Leafs.
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Umpires are not required to call time out just because a player asks for time. Only in extreme cases, like dust in the pitcher's or hitter's eyes, should an umpire call time. The batter has 20 seconds to get situated in the box and receive a pitch. I'm against putting a giant clock (or any size clock for that matter) up to count down 20 seconds between pitches and the minute for warm-ups. But I think umpires should tell hitters to go to hell if they step out to get the sign or whatever, and instruct the pitcher to pitch. The same goes for pitchers. Umps should tell them to pitch or feint within 20 seconds or a ball will be called. That's the way it should be. Ryan Robbins Penobscot Hall University of Maine
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I get the feeling that we are debating at cross-purposes--that we do not see the same fundamental assumptions, and this perhaps makes my answers orthogonal to your questions. I will try again. Perhaps you believe that nothing exists aside from objectively observable and provable things. In that case, I cannot show you that there is such thing as a spirit or a spiritual need--these things do not exist in the realm of the objective, but in the realm of the subjective. (By a.a., I assume you mean Alcoholics Anonymous, and not alt.atheism ;) I would not say that AA "handles" spiritual needs. Rather I would say that AA (and other 12-step programs) help people come to terms with their needs--ie that AA is facilitating the recovery, and that as part of the recovery, they recognize their spiritual needs, and begin to rely on a "higher power" (12-step's term) to fill them instead of whatever substance abuse they had been accustomed to. (Sorry, there is no objective proof here either--no way to take 2 identical alcoholics and try to have one recover by fulfilling spiritual needs, and one without and externally compare the difference--we are talking about the virtually infinite complexity of *people* here.) Spiritual needs could be defined as things that people need in addition to physical requirements like air, food, sleep, etc. These are things like the need for love and acceptance, and the need for meaning in life. If one denies the existence of spiritual things, one would presumably call these "emotional needs". The reason Christians call them spiritual needs is that they have aspects that are not fulfillable except by spiritual means--ie a person could be loved and accepted by many people, and do many meaningful things, but still have a need for love, which can only be satisfied by the love of God. Now the problem is that there are people who accept the existence of these needs, and people who reject them. Since I believe in absolute truth, some of these people are right, and the others are wrong. So here are the 2 possibilities: 1) If Christians are right, then we all have spiritual needs--ie we all need God. Those who do not realize that they need God are deluded--they just haven't recognized it yet. 2) If Christians are wrong, spiritual needs are an artefact of our brain chemicals. Well-adjusted and properly-integrated personalities do not have such things. Christians are simply using the concept of God and spiritual needs to mask their own inadequacies. I hate to belabour the point, but the existence of spirits and spiritual needs cannot be objectively demonstrated or proven, just like the existence of God cannot. And yes, this means that there is a risk that all my subjective evidence is manufactured by my brain chemicals. But on the other hand, I could venture into solipsism and say that there is a risk that everything that I appear to objectively know is really manufactured by my brain chemicals. I suspect this is an unsatisfactory answer to a request for evidence and demonstration of the existence of spirits and spiritual needs, but my assertion is that such things are not objectively demonstrable. As I have said before, I myself am on the Christian side of agnosticism, having been pushed off the fence by subjective evidence. (And no, I was not raised a Christian, so it is not a case of simply accepting what I was indoctrinated with.)
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... Update: No, I or my friends with me now have not delt with him, but we did try to call him, and there's no answer at his phone. The call was made at midnight EST; God knows what time that is in Arizona. We'll try again later. Anybody want to saturate his mail box?
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Only because you are apparently easy to fool. In other words, your remark is obviously from someone who wouldn't know the difference. -- "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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-- My wife is a physiotherapist and she is looking for some cliparts of skeleton and male/female body. We're currently using Windows Draw which can import all kind of graphic formats. Therefore, anything will do. Please advise of the existance of any freeware or commerical source that we can turn to. Since I don't normally read this newsgroup, please responds via e-mail. Thanks in advance.
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completed Why would you dispose a channel if you are going to play more sounds soon? If you are trying to write a game, you shouldn't be using SndPlay. Instead, make a channel and use BufferCmds to play sounds on it. It works great. You can add CallBacks to the channel also to let you know when the channel is getting empty. Before it gets empty. 7.1, Callbacks are very reliable, I found them 100% reliable, even under System 4.1. I was doing continuous background sound with interrupting sound effects on System 6.0 with the IM-V documentation. You probably were cancelling your callback commands out of your channels, of course you didn't get called. In general, if you have problems with sounds working when you play one per channel and then close the channel (with the related slowdown), but then when you play more than one you don't work, then you are adding more than one synthesizer to a channel, possibly the same one multiple times. This might be because you are calling SndPlay on a preexisting channel with a sound resource which adds the sampled sound synthesizer to the channel first thing before it plays. Most sampled sounds have this command at the start of them. You need to resedit the sound and remove that command, then when you create your channel, specify the sampled sound synthesizer to be the channel's synth. Then you can use asynch sndplay's all you want. You'll probably want to switch to BufferCmd's, since you are going to have to use SndDoCommand anyway to add callbacks. Now before you go ahead and tell me I am full of it, and the sound manager doesn't work for games, remember, Spectre uses it. And it works great. If Spectre can spare the CPU time, you can too. One little disclaimer: There are some out there who say the Sound Manager in the IIsi can't be made to work right. I'm not sure either way, but I know for sure that you can make your sounds work 100% correctly on every other machine using the Sound Manager.
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It was a classy move. But it looks like ESPN is going to devote most of the coverage to the Pens. On Tuesday night, they continued to broadcast the Pen-Devil game even though Pittsburgh had the game well in control. Granted they did show some "bonus" coverage of the Caps and Isles but they cut away from the close game, which went into double ot, to update us on the fifth goal of the rout. Thursday was a good game even if it was the second straight game between the pens and devils. IMHO they should program some variety into the telecasts.(Yes I know the game shown on saturday is between the B's and Sabres, probably throwing a bone to us Bruin fans.) And what about the Cambell conference? I'd like to see a game in the Norris or Smythe. Why not have back to back nights of National Hockey Night? Just a thought.
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Anyone have experiences, good or bad, with replacing the MFM controller and drive with an IDE controller and drive in a Zenith 386/16? I had heard some rumors about bus mastering problems on some CPU board revisions.
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I'd have to agree with you there Joe.
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Oil Pressure, Oil Temperature Coolant Temperature Manifold Vacuum Ammeter, Voltmeter Fuel Pressure [maybe] (Problematic, since you either need an electronic sensor/gauge pair or you have to mount the damn thing outside the car) In addition, it'd be nice to have a big red idiot light 'Check Guages' connected to Oil pressure, Oil Temp, Coolant Temp, Ammeter & Voltmeter. With heaps of guages, it's hard to look at them all all the time. In the case of oil pressure, for example, you want to know right away if your oil pump goes bad, unlike coolant temperature, a minute or two of 0 oil pressure would be A Very Bad Thing(tm). Adam
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Hello out there! My Mac IIsi runs a Radius Pivot LE monitor, with the PDS card. As I wanted to try to switch to 32 bit adressing, i couldn't startup my Mac anymore. 1. What is the trick to zap the PRAM (so I won't have to take out the battery next time) 2. Is there any trick that could allow me to switch to 32bit? 3. What does 32bit adressing bring to me as an user? faster work? 4. Any chance to have more than 8Mb of adressable memory with 24bit adressing? Thank you a lot for your answers (via mail or reply)
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I have a '72 CL350 which I stopped riding about 2 years ago (I upgraded to an '84 Sabre 750). I parked it in the corner of my parking lot, and planned on draining the gas, spraying oil in the tank, etc. to get it ready to store. Well, after a lot of procrastination, all I ended up doing was throwing a tarp on it. Well, now I have to move and want to clean up the 350. I tried starting it (with someone else's battery) and had no luck. My first guess is that it is the gas and so I plan on draining it and replacing it with new gas (I can only pray that I didn't trash the carbeurators). The question is, what do I do with this old gas? I am not going to run it in my Sabre, and I think that there is enough that I don't want to burn it (campus police don't think too kindly about bonfires). Dumping it isn't a great idea. Thanks for any ideas, George Heinz ---- Win the $1,000,000 question -- what does this C code do? (No fair compiling it)
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Yup, I bought the darn thing cause it was sturdy. I carry it around in an unpadded (unless you consider all the papers and files and folders) bookbag (shoulder strap little job from Eddie Bauer). I've travelled cross country several times with Walkman, DiscMan and tapes, books and computer all piled in their. My PB100 works happily, and I'm typing on it right now... It has a Global Village Teleport 9600 V.32 internal send/receive fax-modem, and I just love it. Unfortunately, I have seen a new Duo 230 that a friend bought as a primary computer (I have a Mac IIsi and SE30 as primary home computers, and Quadra and IIci at work in the lab). And while amazed at the lightness of it, I was kinda shocked at the flimsiness of the screen. I'm sure it'd break real easy.... Geez, we are a Sony familly. Our neighbor works for Zeinth and hates it (always asks why we didn't buy Zeinth products). Nice guy nevertheless. We still have two working Sony Color Trinitrons from 1972 and 1974. Older one is on it's second picture tube, but both work. Now they're relegated to the old 8-bit atari computer and atari 2600 game machinces, as well as our not-that-old younger sister's Nintendo game machine. Sony doesn't make TV's like they used to though, the newer Mexican assembly-line TV's are not that reliable or sharp anymore... Dad also just got a 35" direct-view Sony (god, the thing weighs a ton!). :) Still, where would we be without Trinitrons, CD players, or the veritable Walkman????
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If you wanted to send your own letter to the NHL where would you send it? Brett E. Ball
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[Joe, why don't you put your username on your account?] Or claims to have discovered so... It would hardly be the first time they raided someone based on incorrect evidence. It was a "no-knock", according to the Associated Press report. Here's something I found in my collection: Excerpts from an article in the Knoxville News-Sentinel Final Edition Monday, March 1, 1993 (the byline is associated press): WACO, Texas - Fierce gun battles erupted Sunday as more than 100 law officers tried to arrest the leader of a heavily armed religious cult. At least four federal agents and two cult members were reported killed. [...] The gun battles began when federal agents hidden in livestock trailers stormed the sect's head-quarters Sunday morning, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ witnesses said. The agents had warrants to search for guns and explosives and to arrest Howell, said Les Stanford of the ATF in Washington. [...] Witnesses said the law officers stormed the compound's main home, throwing concussion grenades and screaming "Come out," while three ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ National Guard helicopters approached. For a moment, there was no response. Then the shooting began. I think "storming the sect's head-quaters" and "throwing concussion grenades" qualifies as a no-knock (or perhaps an illegal assault). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Probably not. But then again, neither are you. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ And just what is "his background"? What prior crimes had he been CONVICTED of? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sorry, BATF are "Federal TAX Enforcement officials". They're not police, nor do they have police powers. -- Charles Scripter * cescript@phy.mtu.edu Dept of Physics, Michigan Tech, Houghton, MI 49931
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Actually, I was hoping for Barry Bonds. Oh well. First off, Jeff has had like 5 hits in the last two games, and walked *yet again*. Sorry Ken, but Jeff King does have some power, which means his SLG won't be below .300, and his walks are *way* up. If that increase is real, Jeff King will be an above average NL third baseman in 1993. Jose Lind, on the other hand, *still* doesn't walk, and clearly isn't a .320 hitter. My bet is that he won't be getting any extra bases either once everybody starts pulling the "Lind Shift" we were seeing in the NL. No, although since the Lavalliere weirdness, nothing would really surprise me. Jeff King is currently in the top 10 in the league in *walks*. Something is up...
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There is no reason to believe that Paul's thorn in the flesh was a sin in his life. That makes little sense in the light of Paul' writings taken in totality. He writes of how he presses for the mark, and keeps his body submitted. No doubt Paul had to struggle with the flesh just like every Christian. Paul does associate his thorn with a Satanic messenger, and with physical infirmities and tribulation, but not with a sin in his life.
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I have a copy of 'The Earth-From Space' on my wall that I purchased from Space Shots, Inc. (LA, CA (800) 272-2779). As printed on the poster, the image was created by Tom Van Sant and the GeoSphere Project. The image IS copyrighted, so I doubt that you'll find it legally in the public domain. Part of the proceeds from the sale of the image go to the GeoSphere Project (an environmental education thing), and the cost is nominal, so crack a 20 and buy one! Also, I don't think it's always safe to assume that just because the government 'funded' a project, any products will be provided for free. Many government agencies (NASA, NOAA) and some private groups (National Geographic) provided assistance to the GeoSphere Project. This collaboration seems to be mostly oriented to educating the public, rather than pure research.
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NOTE: Saturday, April 20th's scores should be sent out by this coming Friday. MLB Standings and Scores for Tuesday, April 20th, 1993 (including yesterday's games) NATIONAL WEST Won Lost Pct. GB Last 10 Streak Home Road San Francisco Giants 08 05 .615 -- 7-3 Won 1 05-02 03-03 Houston Astros 07 05 .583 0.5 7-3 Won 1 02-04 05-01 Atlanta Braves 07 07 .500 1.5 4-6 Lost 1 04-03 03-04 Los Angeles Dodgers 06 07 .462 2.0 4-6 Won 3 03-03 03-04 San Diego Padres 05 07 .417 2.5 5-5 Won 3 03-04 02-03 Colorado Rockies 04 07 .364 3.0 4-6 Lost 1 03-03 01-04 Cincinnati Reds 03 09 .250 4.5 2-8 Won 1 02-04 01-05 NATIONAL EAST Philadelphia Phillies 09 03 .750 -- 7-3 Won 1 05-01 04-02 Pittsburgh Pirates 07 05 .583 2.0 5-5 Lost 3 03-02 04-03 St. Louis Cardinals 07 05 .583 2.0 6-4 Lost 3 04-02 03-03 New York Mets 06 05 .545 2.5 5-5 Lost 1 02-03 04-02 Chicago Cubs 06 06 .500 3.0 5-5 Lost 1 03-03 03-03 Montreal Expos 06 06 .500 3.0 5-5 Won 1 03-03 03-03 Florida Marlins 04 08 .333 5.0 3-7 Lost 1 02-04 02-04 AMERICAN WEST Won Lost Pct. GB Last 10 Streak Home Road Texas Rangers 08 03 .727 -- 7-3 Won 2 04-02 04-01 California Angels 06 04 .600 1.5 6-4 Lost 1 03-02 03-02 Minnesota Twins 06 05 .545 2.0 6-4 Lost 1 03-03 03-02 Chicago White Sox 05 07 .417 3.5 4-6 Lost 3 02-03 03-04 Seattle Mariners 05 07 .417 3.5 4-6 Won 1 03-02 02-05 Oakland Athletics 04 06 .400 3.5 4-6 Lost 4 04-02 00-04 Kansas City Royals 03 09 .250 5.5 3-7 Won 1 01-05 02-04 AMERICAN EAST Boston Red Sox 10 03 .769 -- 7-3 Won 3 06-01 04-02 Detroit Tigers 07 05 .583 2.5 7-3 Lost 1 05-01 02-04 Toronto Blue Jays 07 05 .583 2.5 6-4 Won 1 04-02 03-03 New York Yankees 06 06 .500 3.5 5-5 Lost 2 03-03 03-03 Milwaukee Brewers 04 05 .444 4.0 4-5 Won 2 02-02 02-03 Cleveland Indians 05 08 .385 5.0 3-7 Lost 1 04-03 01-05 Baltimore Orioles 04 07 .364 5.0 4-6 Won 1 02-03 02-04 YESTERDAY'S SCORES (IDLE teams listed in alphabetical order) NATIONAL LEAGUE AMERICAN LEAGUE Houston Astros PPD Chicago White Sox 0 Chicago Cubs RAIN Boston Red Sox 6 Atlanta Braves IDLE Toronto Blue Jays 7 Cincinnati Reds IDLE Cleveland Indians 1 Colorado Rockies IDLE Seattle Mariners 10 Florida Marlins IDLE Detroit Tigers 6 Los Angeles Dodgers IDLE Baltimore Orioles IDLE Montreal Expos IDLE California Angels IDLE New York Mets IDLE Kansas City Royals IDLE Philadelphia PhilliesIDLE Milwaukee Brewers IDLE Pittsburgh Pirates IDLE Minnesota Twins IDLE St. Louis Cardinals IDLE New York Yankees IDLE San Francisco Giants IDLE Oakland Athletics IDLE San Diego Padres IDLE Texas Rangers IDLE -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Hernandez | RAMS | | /.\ ******* _|_|_ / | LAKERS jtchern@ocf.Berkeley.EDU | KINGS | |__ | | DODGERS _|_|_ | | RAIDERS jtcent@soda.Berkeley.EDU | ANGELS |____||_|_| ******* | | |___| CLIPPERS
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: At the company I worked for previously, I received a file that was : des encryped : and the person that had sent it, went on vaction. Rather than wait : two weeks : I set up a straight frontal attack with one key at a time. It only : took two(2) : days to crack the file. No, I don't have any faith in DES. Then it was either _really_ good luck or you had some _very_ fast machine. DES has 2^56 possible keys, each two of which are simply to convert into each other, so you have to expect 2^54 trial encryptions in the mean case, assuming known plaintext. 2^54 / 2 / (24*60*60) / 1000000 is ca. 104250. So you must have managed to do 104250 encryptions per microsecond. CE Infosys builds a very fast DES chip that manages 2 (!) encryptions per microsecond. Yes, I'm not very seriously bothered about the security of DES yet; though you might prefer to use triple DES or IDEA, both of which use more key bits. joerg -- Joerg Czeranski EMail czeranski@rz.tu-clausthal.de Osteroeder Strasse 55 SMTP injc@[139.174.2.10] W-3392 Clausthal-Zellerfeld Voice (at work) +49-5323-72-3896 Germany Voice (at home) +49-5323-78858
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I wrote that I thought that 2 Peter 1:20 meant, "no prophecy of Scripture (or, as one reader suggests, no written prophecy) is merely the private opinion of the writer." Tony Zamora replies (Sat 8 May 1993) that this in turn implies that it is not subject to the private interpretation of the reader either. I am not sure that I understand this. In one sense, no statement by another is subject to my private interpretation. If reliable historians tell me that the Athenians lost the Pelopennesian War, I cannot simply interpret this away because I wanted the Athenians to win. Facts are facts and do not go away because I want them to be otherwise. In another sense, every statement is subject to private interpretation, in that I have to depend on my brains and expereience to decide what it means, and whether it is sufficiently well attested to merit my assent. Even if the statement occurs in an inspired writing, I still have to decide, using my own best judgement, whether it is in fact inspired. This is not arrogance -- it is just an inescapable fact.
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Just create the window in the place you want it and set the program position field in the WM_NORMAL_HINTS property, then map it. Then, assuming they have a non brain dead window manager, the user can say whether they want to us program specified positions or not. For tvtwm the UsePPosition command in the .tvtwmrc will do this. Now, I'm sure that by the time this message gets out of our local news timewarp someone will have advised you to set the user position bit in the WM_NORMAL_HINTS. _Do_not_ do this. It's evil. It's a disservice to your users. Offler the tusked crocodile god will come in the night and remove your vital organs with a blunt spoon if you even contemplate it.
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Well, watching several Denizen's dismantle Laurie's Virago in an attempt to change the oil at the ride 'n feed a few years back was a pretty funny site. Surely with the combined wisdom of all these folks they weren't doing things the hard way, were they?
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Me too. Even after I bought the 3-piece Krauser K2 set. Now and then, DK puts them on sale for 50 bux or so to clear out inventory, but they never seem to to go away. They are the Volkswagens of tank bags, I guess. BTW, the late Paul O' Neill showed me a trick with a pair of pliers that will extend their life considerably. When the zipper starts to separate behind the pull (because of age and wear), squash the pull body with the pliers just a bit to tighten it back up. I would have tossed my bag three years ago, but this fixed it up and kept it secure and reliable.
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GK>Occasionally, I have trouble shifting into reverse. The shifter GK>refuses to enter the gate, and I often grind the synchros trying to GK>get it into gear. I'll be watching this carefully in the next couple GK>of months. Enter 1st, wait 2-3 seconds and then go into reverse. They use the same synchros, and you'll never (at least I haven't) ground-em-to-fit when using this technique.
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: In article <1993May12.193454.29823@hal.com>, bobp@hal.com (Bob Pendleton) writes... : >From article <1993May7.235404.22590@pony.Ingres.COM>, by mwmeyer@Ingres.COM (Mike (wading through the muck and) Meyer): : >> This is getting pretty silly. First off, "Hacker" is an obsolete term. : >> Doesn't matter what it used to mean, today it means "thief." : >> : >> It only means "thief" if you want it to mean that. To me, it means : [Lots of context wickedly omitted by myself :-) ] : > : >Anyway, if I say "Joe is a hacker" to most english speaking people who : >know the word they'll probably think he is either a poor golfer or a : >bad carpenter. But there are very very few people who will think he is : >a good and clever programmer. :-) : > : >If you chose to call yourself by a term that means "thief" don't be : >surprised when people think you are a thief. Even if you don't agree : >with that definition of the word. : ^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ : [....] The narrower view that a hacker, when : associated with the computing environment, is a dishonest : expert is not so widespread, I'm my opinion, at least with the : people involved with the field. IMHO the wider meaning is not : obsolete at all, no matter how much the lay press would like it to : be! [....] : Therefore I conclude that if you call yourself a hacker, and somebody : perceives you as a thief, then this person belongs to a very very : small group that has some computer knowledge, but not enough to know : the wider (and original) meaning of the word. [....] Unfortunately, the general public has a very narrow view of the deep, dark recesses of the art of computing. What little they do see is from the view given to them by the media. From what I have seen from the media, 'hacker' is not a proper way by which to refer to a respected person. I, on the other hand, know what 'hacker' means from those who consider themselves such. Following is the definition from "Jargon File 2.9.10". (This is also known as the "Hackers Dictionary".) The definitions are arranged in order of decreasing frequency of usage: :hacker: [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] n. 1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. 2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming. 3. A person capable of appreciating {hack value}. 4. A person who is good at programming quickly. 5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; as in 'a UNIX hacker'. (Definitions 1 through 5 are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.) 6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy hacker, for example. 7. One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations. 8. [deprecated] A malicious meddler who tries to discover sensitive information by poking around. Hence 'password hacker', 'network hacker'. See {cracker}. The term 'hacker' also tends to connote membership in the global community defined by the net (see {network, the} and {Internet address}). It also implies that the person described is seen to subscribe to some version of the hacker ehic (see {hacker ethic, the}). It is better to be described as a hacker by others than to describe oneself that way. Hackers consider themselves something of an elite (a meritocracy based on ability), though one to which new members are gladly welcome. There is thus a certain ego satisfaction to be had in identifying yourself as a hacker (but if you claim to be one and are not, you'll quickly be labeled {bogus}). See also {wannabee}. :hacker ethic, the: n. 1. The belief that information-sharing is a powerful positive good, and that it is an ethical duty of hackers to share their expertise by writing free software and facilitating access to information and to computing resources wherever possible. 2. The belief that system-cracking for fun and exploration is ethically OK as long as the cracker commits no theft, vandalism, or breach of confidentiality. Both of these normative ethical principles are widely, but by no means universally) accepted among hackers. Most hackers subscribe to the hacker ethic in sense 1, and many act on it by writing and giving away free software. A few go further and assert that *all* information should be free and *any* proprietary control of it is bad; this is the philosophy behind the {GNU} project. Sense 2 is more controversial: some people consider the act of cracking itself to be unethical, like breaking and entering. But this principle at least moderates the behavior of people who see themselves as `benign' crackers (see also {samurai}). On this view, it is one of the highest forms of hackerly courtesy to (a) break into a system, and then (b) explain to the sysop, preferably by email from a {superuser} account, exactly how it was done and how the hole can be plugged --- acting as an unpaid (an unsolicited) {tiger team}. The most reliable manifestation of either version of the hacker ethic is that almost all hackers are actively willing to share technical tricks, software, and (where possible) computing resources with other hackers. Huge cooperative networks such as {USENET}, {Fidonet} and Internet (see {Internet address}) can function without central control because of this trait; they both rely on and reinforce a sense of community that may be hackerdom's most valuable intangible asset. : Finally, a true hacker does not name himself/herself one, for this is : a title that is bestowed by the befuddled sysadmins and users at large. : To me, a sign of a truly great hacker is to be introduced to someone who : says "Nahh, I just know a thing or two, people always exagerate..." :-) Note that the above definition does not preclude a hacker from describing limself (meaning: himself/herself) one, but simply says that it is better not to do so. There are many who do not know the meaning of 'hacker'. So, in order to defend the true meaning of the word, it is sometimes necessary to borrow on the reputation of a known (respected) hacker around the workplace. (This means that 'hacker' is defined in terms of some well-known and respected person.) Sometimes, there may only be one such person. : >No matter what Mr. Dumpty says, language doesn't work that way. : Actually it does, you just have to get adequate press coverage... :-) Language works anyway that we want it to work. The purpose of language is to communicate. To oversimplify: As long as communication is taking place, then language is working.
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Yes, each is a form of the other. Charley an anarchist? No, just true words being spoken in jest.
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russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) writes... It's fairly simple. It was decided to burn the place down, and more than one agent was dispatched to set the fires in separate parts of the compound. I doubt that "simultaneously" means "at the exact same time" in this case. It likely means "close enough together to preclude them from being part of the same fire." They might be waiting until the evidence comes in from the site, and the investigation is at least well underway. The same could be said of Jonestown. Maybe. Then again, I've been suprised at what folks have missed in the past in similar situations. Don't jump t oconclusions. _____ _____ \\\\\\/ ___/___________________ Mitchell S Todd \\\\/ / _____/__________________________ ________________ \\/ / mst4298@zeus._____/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_'_/ \_____ \__ / / tamu.edu _____/.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'.'_'_/ \__________\__ / / _____/_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_'_/ \_ / /__________/ \/____/\\\\\\ \\\\\\
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#Recently, I've asked myself a rather interesting question: What RIGHT does #god have on our lives (always assuming there is a god, of course...!) ?? # #In his infinite wisdom, he made it perfectly clear that if we don't live #according to his rules, we will burn in hell. Well, with what RIGHT can god #make that desicion? Let's say, for the sake of argument, that god creates #every one of us (directly or indirectly, it doesn't matter.). What then #happens, is that he first creates us, and then turns us lose. Well, I didn't #ask to be created. # #Let's make an analogue. If a scientist creates a unique living creature #(which has happened, it was even patented...!!!), does he then have the #right to expect it to behave in a certain matter, or die...? Dear Joakim, let me begin by saying that these are excellent questions, but that by asking, you will find as many different explanations as there are respondents. As a Latter-day Saint, I believe that all of us (you, me, etc.) lived once as spirit-children of God the Father (Hebrews 12:9) in the pre-mortal existance. In order to continue our eternal progression, an earthly probationary time was required. (To live by faith, not by sight, to choose good over evil, and to prepare ourselves in all things to become worthy of a higher order of existance.) We believe that all of God's spirit-offspring were once assembled to discuss the specifics of this earthly sojourn. One-third chose for Lucifer's plan, most followed the Firstborn (the pre-mortal Jesus Christ). Lucifer's aspirations ("I will exalt my throne above the stars of God . . ." Isaiah 14:12-17, etc.) resulted into the rebellion of his followers against the Firstborn and those who followed Him, resulting in the casting out of Lucifer (who became Satan, the father of lies) and one-third of the hosts of heaven ("And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth . . ." Revelation 12:4) as demons (evil spirits). To get back on OUR choice to be born on this earth, and to be subject to God and His plan (for good or bad, based upon our obedience and choices), we made that choice individually. (God speaking to Job: "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth, . . . when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?" Job 38:4-7). We lost the knowledge of our pre-mortal existance (the "Veil of Forgetful- ness," somewhere in Psalms), in order to live by faith, not by sight. You may not accept this scenario, neither do quite a few who rely on the Bible alone, which offers only fragmentary insights into this particular aspect of our existence as individuals, as sons and daughters of God. #Who is god to impose its rules on us ? Who can tell if god is REALLY so #righteous as god likes us to believe? Are all christians a flock of sheep, #unable to do otherwise that follow the rest? # #Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. (All Christians, by definition, ARE a flock of sheep, following the Shepherd as they understand Him ;-) --But in any event, not all Christians believe in the same theology, such as the one Latter-day Saints believe in. (They will cry "heresy" and other accusations of "perverting" the doctrines of the Bible, while they themselves believe in a myriad of interpretations, as found in their catechisms and various do-it-yourself Bible-study manuals...) As for me, I have a personal conviction that the pre-existance scenario as explained above, is most in harmony with Biblical doctrine, some Dead Sea Scroll books, the pseudographion, other (Jewish) sources, and last but not least, modern-day revelation on the subject. #I just want to point out that this is not sarcasm, I mean it. # # How should one deal with a man who is convinced that # he is acting according to God's will, and who there- # Jokke fore believes that he is doing you a favour by # stabbing you in the back? # # -Voltaire
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: : >|> Has anyone got multiverse to work ? : >|> Extn 5543, sts@mfltd.co.uk, !uunet!mfocus!sts : : I've tried compiling it on several SPARCstations with gcc 2.22. After : fixing up a few bugs (3 missing constant definitions plus a couple of : other things) I got it to compile & link, but after starting client : & server I just get a black window; sometimes the client core dumps, : sometimes the server, sometimes I get a broken pipe, sometimes it : just sits there doing nothing although I occassionally get the : cursor to become a cross-hair in dog-fight, but that's it. I've : sent word to the author plus what I did to fix it last week, but : no reply as yet. : : Peter K. Campbell : p.campbell@trl.oz.au I've discovered a bug in the libraries/parser/parser.c loadcolour function where it was generating a segmentation fault. It appears the colourList[] is geting corrupted somehow. I had it return random colours instead and everything worked great (except for a few colour problems) so I know its the only thing wrong. The colour table somehow gets a couple of nulls placed in it so when the "name" of the colours are compared it crashes. I haven't found the problem yet maybe someone else can.
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I think you have are addressing the wrong issue. The situation is more like: we both see some elves. This is established as fact since we can both touch them etc. Then one of us says, the elves have always been with us. The other says, no no there was a time before elves were here. Which is the positive argument?
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You can do a whole hell of a lot better than 2 or 3 degrees with the differential timing measurements from the interplanetary network. Ignore the directional information from BATSE; just look at the time of arrival. With three detectors properly arranged, one can often get positions down to ~arc minutes. BTW, about Oort cloud sources: shouldn't this be testable in the fairly near future? Some of the GRBs have very short rise times (< 1 ms). We could detect the curvature of the burst wavefront out to a distance of on the order of b^2/(t c) where b is the detector spacing and t the time resolution. For t = 1 ms and b = 2 AU, this is on the order of 16 light years. I understand statistics will reduce this number considerably, as would geometry if the burst is coming from the wrong direction.
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Yer welcome to ride with me and my friends any time. Just introduce your self at the earliest opportunity and say "Mind if I rid with you guys?" ----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----
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I agree with Jeff's reply. I've never changed the brake fluid except when having a brake job, which is usually at around 80,000 miles (alot of freeway driving). However, I will start to do this as preventative maintenance on my new car. Also, there are brake system flushing agents that can be used but the problem is that if any of the agent is left in the system, it can cause problems, so it's been recommended NOT to use them unless you are 100% certain that you can remove all of the flushing agent. Just for your info, I was quoted a price of: labor=$29.95 and fluid=$9.95 for flushing the brake system; this in conjunction with a break job so I don't know if it was more without the brake job. This is in the S.F Bay Area.
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Question for those of you who seem to be fundamentalists (Stephen Tice, the Cotera, Joe Gaut, et al)(apologies if I've mislabelled any of you, I've only started reading t.r.m since the BD disaster. But I know the Cotera is a fundy) and are defending Koresh and his beliefs as an example of True Christianity under persecution from the the Big Bad Secular State: what is your opinion of his reported sexual habits? If the reports are accurate, what IYO does this say about the quality of his Christianity? Or are the allegations just part of the Big Cover-Up? (I remain deliberately neutral on the cause of the fire: I wouldn't put it past Koresh to have torched the place himself. On the other hand, if the propane-tank-accident story is correct, I wouldn't put it past the FBI to try to cover its ass by claiming Koresh did it. I hope your government does a VERY thorough investigation of the whole debacle, and I'll be disappointed if a few heads don't roll. The authorities seem to have botched the original raid, and in the matter of the fire, are guilty of either serious misjudgement, or reckless endangerment.)
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^^^^^^^^^^ O.K. people, so it's not tied. I meant leads 2-1........ Shoot me if you must. -JPC --
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How do you solve the problem when the message "Cannot perform malloc" shows for XtCreateManagedWidget call? I have the application written in X11R5 running on DECstation using Athena widgets. As soon as I added codes to do Remote Procedure Call, the program refused to work. I also have my program working using just Xlib calls with RPC. My executable code is about 1.4M and I don't have any idea how much memory is the DECstation 3100/5100. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. --
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It might be interesting for folk to know that the Church of Scotland (also a Presbyterian church) managed to "agree to disagree" over women's ordination for 25 years. The reasoning was that congregations are free to call whoever they wish, and that Ministers and Sessions choose elders. If a congregation did not wish to have a woman, they were not obliged to, and if a Session did not wish to, they could not be forced to. (Note that the who issue of freedom to call on the part of the Congregation is VERY important here - this year is the 150th Annivarsary of the Disruption, where the church split on that very issue, they didn't get back together for almost 80 years). A couple of years ago on the 25 anniversary of the allowing of womens ordination the position was changed - so that, in theory, all ministers and elders must recognise that women can be ordained. In theory, a minister who refused to ordain a woman to his Session, or refused to work with a woman minister in Presbytery, could be disciplined. In practice this has not happened, and I believe it is unlikely to happen. My personal view is that the new legislation was a mistake, and that the permissive (but not prescriptive) legislation worked very well. We are going to start going round the homosexual debate at next years assembly. At this years, a motion was put to ban the blessing of same-sex couples (after an Edinburgh minister did so). Our Panel on Doctrine is currently looking at marriage, and will report next year - the matter will be considered and debated then. Hope this is interesting
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<Yawn> Another right-wing WASP imagining he's an oppressed minority. Perhaps Camille Paglia is right after all. "I would not have any argument or problem with a peace-nik if they [...] stayed out of all conflicts or issues"? I bet you wouldn't. You'd love it. But what makes you think that sitting back, saying nothing about defense issues, and letting people like you make all the decisions is anything to do with "their ideals"?
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Interesting. Would you care to explain to me then, how my SoundBlaster Pro card and my printer card are sharing IRQ 7 successfully? I assure you that they are both set to IRQ 7 and that I have no problem. My computer is a DTK 286-12 IBM clone.
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