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The x3270 at export.lcs.mit.edu supposedly does. I use another x3270 that was cleaned up by Brian Ward <ward@math.psu.edu> which adds better color support, and cleans up _lots_ of bugs, as well as cut&paste. I just put it on export.lcs.mit.edu, as x3270v2.65beta.tar.Z. --Dave
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What is MTEZ? A dealer? A repository? Any details? -- Penio Penev x7423 (212)327-7423 (w) Internet: penev@venezia.rockefeller.edu
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What tube does the Viewsonic 17 use? Does is support 1600x1280? I've been looking a a Philips 1762DT which uses a Sony Trinitron tube, has digital controls, supports up to 1280x1024NI, and has .25mm dot pitch - It can be found for under $1000.
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I would like to know as well, since I just bought a 200MB Seagate IDE drive and want to add it to my computer (a four-year-old Gateway 386/20), which currently has an 80MB Seagate SCSI drive. The SCSI controller is such that the docs told me not to specify it in the CMOS setup, i.e. both hard drive settings are listed as "Not installed," and apparently the SCSI controller works its wonders. I wondering if this is a problem. Also, I remember how, when I helped my cousin install his second IDE drive, we had to define a master/slave relationship for them; do I need to do something similar here? Same here. Any help would be appreciated, since I intend to install this drive ASAP; I'd like to know what to do (and what not to do) before I start. Thanks! --
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Okay, I got enough replies about the Kubota Kenai/Denali systems that I will post a summary of their capabilities. I haven't actually used one or seen one, so take the specs with a grain of salt. I'd like to see an independent review of one against, say, an SGI Indigo Extreme or something. Basically, the Kenai workstations are DEC Alpha AXP based workstations that run OSF/1 ( DEC's ) and will likely run Windows NT in the future. They are binary compatible with Digital's OSF/1 Alpha AXP implementation. Denali is their graphics subsystem, which is upgradable in the field by simply adding "transformation engines". The two main Kenai machines are the 3400 Imaging and 3D Graphics Workstation and the 3500 Imaging and 3D Graphics Workstation. 3400 3500 CPU DEC Alpha AXP 133MHz DEC Alpha AXP 150MHz On-chip cache 8k/8k 8k/8k Onboard cache 512K 512K Word Size 64-bit 64-bit Memory ( initial ) 32-128MB 32-256MB Memory ( future ) 512MB 1GB SPECMARK89 111 126 SPECINT92 75 84 SPECFP92 112 128 GRAPHICS Transform Modules 1-6 1-6 Frame Buffer Modules 5,10,20 5,10,20 Frame Buffer 1280x1024x24bit 1280x1024x24bit double buffered double buffered Z-buffer 24-bit 24-bit Alpha/stencil 8-bit 8-bit Stereo support yes yes Other: both machines will double buffer or do stereo output per window. Both have an auxiliary video output that is RS-170A, NTSC, and PAL STORAGE Internal-fixed 2 3.5" 4 3.5" Internal-removable 1 5.25" 2 5.25" Max capacity 9.5GB 11.6 GB IO Both have TurboChannel 100MB/sec, SCSI-2, Ethernet, and FDDI APPLICATION PROGRAMMING INTERFACES Both have libraries for Xlib, Motif, MIT PEXlib, DEC-PEXlib DEC-PHIGS, and GL Okay, now the real stuff. The Kenai stations work with a graphics architecture known as Denali. The Denali comes in three models, the E, P, and V. They use a DECchip 21064 superscalar RISC processor at 150MHz. Their capabilities are as follows: E P V 2D Vectors 800-200K 2000-3800K 4000-4800K 3D Vectors #1 350-1100K 1100-1800K 1800-2100K 3D Vectors #2 300-1000K 1000-1600K 1600-1900K 3D Vectors #3 300-500K 800-1000K 1300-1400K 3D Triangles, #4 200-500K 600-1000K 1000-1200K 3D Triangles, #5 100-200K 300-400K 500-600K #1: 10 pixel, flat shaded, connected #2: 10 pixel, Gouraud shaded, connected #3: 10 pixel, 2-pixel wide, anti-aliased, connected #4: 50-pixel, Gouraud shaded, Z-buffered, strip #5: 50-pixel, texture mapped, persp., point sampled IMAGE PROCESSING Cine loop - 8-bit 15-36Mp/s 37-58 Mp/s 60-68 Mp/s Cine loop - 16-bit 14 Mp/s 25 Mp/s 38 Mp/s Cine loop - 24-bit 12-21 Mp/s 21 Mp/s 21 Mp/s Contrast stretching #1 14 Mp/s 25 Mp/s 20 Mp/s Bilinear zoom 6 Mp/s 11 Mp/s 20 Mp/s Trilinear interp#2 -- 6 Mvoxels/s 11 Mvoxels/s #1: Lookup table -- 12-,16-bit to 8 #2: Trilinear interpolation, 8-bit voxels CONFIGURATIONS Frame Buffer Modules 5 10 20 Transform Engine Mod. 1-3 3-5 5-6 As you can see, these are pretty powerful workstations, and the best part is the pricing. I would recommend that you call Kubota for more information. Their number is 408-727-8100. I'm sure they'll send you an information you may want. Oh, some prices: Low-end Kenai 3400, E Series w/ 1 TEM and 5 FBM --- 27,795 dollars U.S. Kenai 3500, E Series w/ 1 TEM and 5 FBM --- 45,345 dollars U.S. High-end Kenai 3400, V Series w/ 6 TEM and 20 FBM -- 61,795 dollars U.S. Kenai 3500, V Series w/ 6 TEM and 20 FBM -- 79,345 dollars U.S. If someone could post a relative comparision with an Indigo Extreme or something I would appreciate it. Hope this helps someone out there, Brian
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I have been using the JOIN command for many years now, mostly with good success in duplicating unix-style file mounts. You will hear lots of people cursing JOIN because they confuse it with the dos APPEND command (a truely gnarly hack), but don't believe them. You also will hear people saying that Microsoft recommends that you not use JOIN. But, in Microsoft's Windows 4 Workgroups Resource toolkit, the following appears: "JOIN, an MS-DOS utility, works fine with Windows for Workgroups 3.1 if you do not change the state of the joined drives during a Windows for Workgroups 3.1 session. This includes adding or removing joined drives from within Windows for Workgroups. We recommend that you do not use JOIN when running Windows Setup or Windows for Workgroups 3.1." Within this caveat, JOIN appears to be valid under windows. However, I have found a couple of applications that don't deal well with filesystems that have been "mounted" using join. In particular, the worst offender is Word for Windows 2.0x. It gets very confused when you edit and then try to save a file on a joined drive. It wants to create the saved file as ~NNNNN.tmp in the current dir, then delete the old file and rename the ~NNNNN.tmp file to the *.doc file. Unfortunately, WfW usually writes the ~NNNNN.tmp file in some idiotic place other than the current directory (often in the root dir of the joined filesystem, but not always). Then, after deleting the original *.doc file, it can't find the ~NNNNN.tmp file to rename it. Unless you search your disk systems, the document is gone. I have also found subtle problems using the MKS toolkit from a DOS box when JOINed filesystems are present. I used to join c:\temp with a 4meg ramdisk, but MKS sometimes gets confused when doing an "ls" on the c:\temp dir, and misses some files in the temp dir. (This is difficult to reproduce, but it goes away totally when JOIN is not used.) I think this is a Windows problem, rather than MKS's, since it works OK under raw DOS. So, I would suggest that you can use JOIN, but be aware that it may not be as robust you would like. Wouldn't it be real great to "mount" network drives (i.e. Z:) under the main file tree, rather than having all those darned drive letters? Unfortunately, JOIN won't let you do it. There was talk on the net about a simple patch to let JOIN work on network drives, but I don't remember the source. It's too bad the JOIN command is not better implemented, since it would avoid using all those stupid drive letters. I realize that MessDos was meant for casual, even ignorant users, so "mounting" all the drives in one file tree might be confusing. But, it looks like MS is going to carry this over into windows NT (another OS meant for casual, even igorant users -- NOT!). With all it's old family system baggage, maybe MS needs a recovery group so they can get on with life :-(.
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Certainly. Reference follows. Bear in mind that there are at least two conditions which may be called red/green colour blind. One, protanopia, is caused by a lack or major dysfunction of the L cones, those that respond best to long wavelengths. This gives much reduced red/green and red/violet discrimination and also means that reds look dimmer than than they do to people with normal vision. The other, deuteranopia, is due to missing or dysfunctional M cones although it can also be caused by a lack of the L-M cone difference signals in the retina. It also gives reduced red/green discrimination but red/violet is unaffected. Unlike protanopia, reds are not dimmer than normal. On a uniform chromaticity diagram - the horseshoe shaped one you see in computer graphics books - there is a single confusion point for each type of colour deficiency. Colours which are confused lie on straight lines radiating from this point. For protanopia the point is at u'=0.61,v'=0.51, very close to the far red corner. For deuteranopia, the point is at u'=-4.75, v'=1.31 Note that different experimental investigations in the literature give slightly different values for these depending on the precise details of the experimental setup, random errors, and so on. The values quoted are typical. So if all colours on a line are seen as the same, which colour is actually seen? This problem has now been solved. Tests on people with one normal eye and one affected eye have shown that there is an axis for each type of disorder onto which all the colours collapse. For protanopes this joins up 473nm and 574nm on the spectral locus (the edge of the horseshoe); for deuteranopes the line is very similar, joining 477nm and 579nm. *So* to convert colours from normal vision to a simulated protanopia or duuteranopia: 1) Plot the colour on a uniform chromaticity diagram 2) Construct a line from this point to the appropriate confusion point 3) Find the intersection of this line with the appropriate axis line 4) This is the new chromaticity. The best reference for this is Meyer, G.W. & Greenberg, D.P. (1988) 'Colour defective vision and computer graphics displays', IEEE Computer Graphics and Applications 8(5) 28-40. You will also need a decent reference on basic colour science if you are not familiar with the CIE XYZ colour model and the uniform chromaticity scale diagram. Yes this is certainly possible. You will need the chromaticities of the red green and blue phosphors of the monitor you intend to display the images on, and the chromaticity of the white point. This information can be measured, or obtained from the manufacturer. I posted a list of some monitor chromaticities a couple of weeks ago. The procedure, for each pixel (!) is as follows. (Some lookup tables might be a help here.) A) convert RGB to CIE XYZ. This is a simple 3*3 matrix multiplication once you have the monitor data. B) retaining the Y component for later, convert XYZ to chromaticity coordinates u'v' using u' = 4X/(X+15Y+3Z), v' = 9Y/(X+15Y+3Z) C) find the equation of the line as in step 2 above D) find the intersection as in step 3 E) convert back from u'v' to XYZ, using the Y value from step A F) Ensure that this new colour can be displayed on your monitor; if not, move it along a line in XYZ space towards neutral grey (ie half way between black and white) until it is displayable. Done; also posted for the rest of us. -- Chris Lilley ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technical Author, ITTI Computer Graphics and Visualisation Training Project Computer Graphics Unit, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Road, Manchester, UK. M13 9PL Internet: C.C.Lilley@mcc.ac.uk Voice: +44 (0)61 275 6045 Fax: +44 (0)61 275 6040 Janet: C.C.Lilley@uk.ac.mcc
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Boy are you going to look silly in a couple of weeks.
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Hi all, Of late my computer's Power supply fan has begun to make a lot of noise. What can I do about this? If I had to get new power supply, or get a new case, where is a good place selling good tower cases and PS. I know there are a couple dozen listed in the Computer Shopper, but I was looking for personal experiences and recommendations. -- Divya
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Hi, I have bought a new harddisk and want to use it with my old TEAC SD3105 , 100Mb harddisk. Unfortunataly I do not have any documentation with this harddisk. Could someone please tell me how I should set the jumpers for master or slave ? Thanks in advance, Robert Tenback. <rhtenbac@cs.ruu.nl>
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Hello, I am writing a program which forks of a number of child processes and each of the children printing things on the screen (quite messy in one window)... The "xterm -Sxxd" option seems to be the solution to opening up slave windows only to display output and I use the following code to open up a pty (taken from Stevens)...and manage to open up an x-term successfully.... The problem however is how do I write into this x-term ? Please help! static char pty_name[12]; int pty_master( void ); int pty_master( void ) { int i,fd; char* ptr; struct stat statbuff; static char ptychar[] = "pqrs"; static char hexdigit[] = "0123456789abcdef"; for( ptr = ptychar; *ptr!=0; ptr++ ) { strcpy( pty_name, "/dev/ttyXY" ); pty_name[8] = *ptr; pty_name[9] = '0'; if( stat( pty_name, &statbuff) < 0 ) break; for( i=0; i < 16; i++ ) { pty_name[9] = hexdigit[i]; if( (fd = open( pty_name, O_RDWR )) >= 0 ) return( fd ); } } return(-1); }
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How does the 16 bit color of HDTV work ? It can not be 5 bit Red Green and Blue like on the Macintosh. This gives only 64 gray levels. Apple also has developed a point-point network that is around 200MB (not sure if it is bits or bytes) per sec.
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Try swapping the phone cables in the back of the modem.
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One can only remap special-command keys in procomm it seems. I would like to remap other keys too - especially "altgr 2", and such combinations. Anybody know a plain OR dirty way to do this?? (of cause most people settle for remapping function keys, but I don't see why there should be a limitation...)
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Hiyas ALL, Upon getting Animated Desktop for Windows as a gift from my boyfriend, I couldn't wait to install it. I had gotten an advertisement for it and put it aside with my list of 'I Wants.' After installing the software, it didn't load. No part of the software would load even though the install went seemingly well. I called Deltapoint with the problem and after asking me twenty million different questions about my system.. concluded that I had one of the systems that the software was 'incompatible with'. Of course they're willing to give me my $$$ back.. What a waste of time and energy. The folks on their support line, although nice, are extremely ignorant regarding the workings of Windows 3.1. After my experience with the installation of the SB 16, I learned some of the function of windows dll files. Before sending back Desktop Animator, decided to do some fooling around with the different versions of .dll files I had. I had 2 versions of cpalette.dll one dated 8/92 and > 100K the other dated 1/93 and smaller (the 1/93 smaller version was the one supplied with Desktop Animator). I moved the bigger, older version of cpalette.dll to a directory outside my path. (For some reason, I had the older Cpalette.dll in my Windows directory and the newer cpallette in my windows\system directory.) When I did this, the animator's editor loaded.. and so did 2 other of the applications in the package.. the main application still didn't load. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this would occur or any further suggestions
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Before I even think about getting this, is it going to be posted to comp.sources.x at any time in the near future? Greg.
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+In article <1993May7.211312.10403@bert.eecs.uic.edu>, rsc@siggraph.org +|> Computer Graphics experimental special online issue +|> May 1993 +|> +|> The May 1993 experimental special issue of Computer Graphics is online +|> as a set of files on the siggraph.org system in the directory +|> ~ftp/publications/May_93_online +|> This is made available to the computer graphics community by ACM +|> SIGGRAPH. The general theme of this issue is electronic documents, and +|> the Table of Contents in the AboutThisIssue files will tell you more +|> about this publication and its contents. + + I ftp'd here, but found nothing. Has this been removed? Nope, it's still there:
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I'm looking for any information regarding Text Search Engines... Specifically, I'd prefer source or binaries which will run in a MS-Windows and/or UNIX environment scanning either flat files or common DB structures... References to PD, Shareware, or Commercial implementations welcome... Please reply via email -- I'll summarize if desired. Thanx !
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Hi all, I've read the FAQ, I've fiddled around, but I am still having problems getting my poor old HP9000/300 to let me input/display characters above 127. I have the following in my .Xdefaults: XTerm*Font : -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-1 So I believe that I have the correct font selected to use in xterm. I have NOT set my LC_CTYPE environment variable because whatever I put it, it tells me that that locale is not supported (apparently we have no additional locales defined, or at least, /lib/locale doesn't exist). I can get some of the characters above 127 to print out, but they are not where I'd expect them -- for example, Alt-v does not produce a u umlaut. This leads me to believe that the fault lies with the stty settings, which are as follows: speed 9600 baud; line = 0; susp <undef>; dsusp <undef> intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^H; kill = ^K; swtch = ^@ eof = ^D; eol = ^@; min = 4; time = 0; stop = ^S; start = ^Q -parenb -parodd cs8 -cstopb hupcl cread -clocal -loblk -crts -ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl -iuclc ixon -ixany ixoff -ienqak isig icanon iexten -xcase echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh opost -olcuc onlcr -ocrnl -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel -tostop Anyway, I've struggled with this off and on for a couple of weeks, and any help anyone could offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Greetings, I am looking to upgrade my hard drive to a much bigger one since I find myself kinda cramped on space, althuogh I have never filled it I would like the extra comfort of 30 megs or so. If anyone would like to sell/trade a newish 80 meg or bigger hard drive for 125 straight and 75 with a trade please e-mail me back at johng2matt.ksu.ksu.edu with an offer. I would also sell my hard drive for about 60$ if you really want it. it's a 42MB western digital IDE. Other than that I am not sure what the transfer rate is, but it is pretty fast. faster than my roommates teac drive. I have addstor running on it now and have had it for about 5 months. I have *never* had a problem with it and would guarantee it works upon deliveree. Thanks John
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Hi! I have a question which is not directly related to X Screen Saver. What X Screen Saver does is to blank the screen if it has been idle for some time. I don't want my screen to go blank but to get locked or call xlock program. Is there a parallel call to XSetScreenSaver() which locks my screen or call my lock program after certain amount of idle time? Or is there a way to find out how long the server has been idle?
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Any Tcpview-for-Sun users out there? I pulled down the pre-compiled executables made for Sun for Tcpview, but I'm getting a whole slew of the following types of error messages when I try to start it up: Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfActivate Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfActivate:ManagerParentActivate()' Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfCancel Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfCancel:ManagerParentCancel()' Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name: osfSelect Warning: ... found while parsing '<Key>osfSelect:ManagerGadgetSelect()' ... But I *know* I have those in my keysym: egrep "osfActivate|osfCancel|osfSelect" $OPENWINHOME/lib/XKeysymDB yields: osfActivate :1004FF44 osfSelect :1004FF60 osfCancel :1004FF69 osfSelectAll :1004FF71 and, if I take *out* the osf lines from said XKeysymDB, my copy of wscrawl (another Motif-compiled-for-Sun program) gives the same type of complaints as listed above. Any tips? I'm mystified.
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Well, I'm glad that there's plenty of NT stuff at Xhibition. Not because I want to use it instead of X, but because I want to find out what the chances are that some time in the future I may not have any choice.
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Someone please fill me in on what 3do. Thanks,
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Yep, you can use any type of UNIX, or maybe VMS, or buy a MAC or something... If you want longer filenames for your documents, I heard of a wordprocessor for windows which let you assign long names to files. Those long filenames could only be seen from that programs open/save dialogs though... Maybe someone knows more about this wordprocessor than I do?
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Hi! Is it possible through either pin configuration or through software programming to change the IP numbers on an ethernet card? Thanks in Advance! -- =-Dave *Tigger!*
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: : or the biggest killer (IMO) : : 6) one's dreams are (sadly) shattered on the hard rocks of society's : version of reality. Without the dream the motivation dies, without : the motivation the effort seems useless. : Actually there are more possibilities -- one is that with practice the hacker has become so good and powerful in manipulating data streams that s/he goes simply underground... Possessing true power perhaps there is no need to impress anyone with it.
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It's not true. IDE bus uses signals which has similar name and same meaning to the counterpart of ISA bus but its (IDE bus) signal timing doesn't have to be same to ISA signal timing. My VL-IDE bus card has a set of jumpers to set its transfer rate from 3.3MB/sec up to 8.3MB/ sec (the manufacturer might have to correct these numbers as 3.3 *milion* byte/sec and 8.3 *milion* byte/sec respectively). You cannot transfer data at a rate of 8.3MB/sec on the ISA bus. Ken Nakata
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One of our users is having an unusual problem. If she does an Alt/Tab to a full-screen DOS program, when she goes back to Windows her desktop fonts have changed. If she goes back to a full-screen DOS program and then goes back to Windows, the font has changed back to its default font. It's not a major problem (everything works and the font is legible), but it is annoying. Does anyone have any idea why this happens. By the way, she has a DEC 486D2LP machine.
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Sorry if this is a FAQ but : "Where can I get a 286 (16 bit) version of POV-Ray ? " Any help would be greatly appreciated. I need the 286 version since Turbo Pascal won't let me run a 32 bit program from within my program. Any info on this would also be a great help. Thanks, Byron. bkidd@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au B.Kidd@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au --
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<much deleted> Sounds like a memory conflict problem, which can cause truly weird symptoms like these. Call Dell tech support (or better, post to them on CSERVE if you have an account) and get the memory range(s) used by video RAM on your machine. The block windows from using those ranges with an EMMEXCLUDE= statement in the 386Enh section of SYSTEM.INI. You probably should include a statement excluding the same range from EMM386 or whatever memory manager you use in CONFIG.SYS.
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lioness@maple.circa.ufl.edu: pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz): lioness@maple.circa.ufl.edu: pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz): For both these questions, it's an inclusive or. Alpha plus stencil is supported (they're separate), as is double-buffered stereo.
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Howdy... I think you would be interested in Infini-D 2.5 for the Mac. There is no DOS or Windows version. It's quite an amazing program. "Some" of the features: * Bevel Text * Timeline based animation sequencer * Realtime bounding box preview * Object linking * Phong Shading * Ray Tracing * Bounding Box shading * Wireframe shading * Ghourad shading * Flat shading * Anti-aliasing (none, low, medium, high) * Environment maps * Quicktime support (wrap a QT movie around an object) * Procedural surfaces * Composed surfaces (for layering surfaces) * Alpha channel support * Import EPS, DXF, and Swivel 3D files * Export DXF and Swivel 3D files * Spline based animation * Animation assistant (for creating smooth movements and other stuff) * Object morphing (surfaces and bevels morph too) ... And lots more that I can't remember right now... Anyway, it's not as expensive as some of the other animation/rendering packages. I think you can get it for around $699 from MacWarehouse. They also have educational discounts... Well, hope that helps a bit. See ya...
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Wondering if somebody could tell me if we can change the cluster size of my IDE drive. Normally I can do it with Norton's Calibrat on MFM/RLL drives but dunno if I can on IDE too.
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is this the KX-P1124 you're talking about? or is there a KX-1124, too? I'll assume you just forgot the P.... this light is also the power light..... on (not blinking) just means that the power is turned on. if you look at the panel, it should read POWER --------- PAPER OUT right? don't know why it would do this, unless you're out of paper, that is. when you power up the printer, assuming it does have paper, the red power light (which, when flashing, doubles as paper out) should light, and a few seconds later, the green ONLINE light should come on. hope this helps..... --jim -- #include <std_disclaimer.h> 73 DE N5IAL (/4) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ INTERNET: jim@n5ial.mythical.com | j.graham@ieee.org ICBM: 30.23N 86.32W AMATEUR RADIO: n5ial@w4zbb (Ft. Walton Beach, FL) AMTOR SELCAL: NIAL
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.. blah blah .. talking about hackers.. you know .. Wow! A new proof for an NP-Complete problem, you guys in Eurpoe really got your stuff together! Base Step: [deleted too bad] Inductive Step: Inductive Hypothesis: Fodder Step: Like my mother always said, if you can't say something nice... or was that can't say something right? - kxh
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I am looking for software that reads a plot in PCX or other format and converts it into x,y coordinate.
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Would someone please leave me the full address for Canon in Canada. thank you. --- Via UCI v1.21 (C-Net Amiga)
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Does this need to have anything to do with disk compression? I have experienced the same thing a couple of times myself, but *without* any disk compression stuff installed. (For example, guess what happened when Norton SpeedDisk once crashed during defragmenting!) Bjorn- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Bjorn Myrland * bjorn.myrland@sipaa.sintef.no SINTEF Safety and Reliability * N-7034 Trondheim, NORWAY
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============================================================================== Could someone please tell me the Best FTP'able viewer available for MSDOS I am running a 486 33mhz with SVGA monitor. I need to look at gifs mainly and it would be advantageous if it ran under windows...........thanks
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I noticed you post in comp.graphics and know a person with your name. I was wondering if you used to live in Paxton Mass. If so, I have a friend that would like to say HI. Sorry for the inconvience if this isn't who I think it is.
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Organization: Compact Solutions, Canberra ACT Australia > This may be a very naive question but is there any > basis for the > claim that a CPU will get hotter when a > computationally intensive > job is running? My friend claims that there will be > little difference > in the temperature of an idle CPU and a CPU running a > computationally > intensive job. From what I've seen in coursework, most CPUs never actually "idle". They will continue to service interrupts, etc., etc. The clock will always be running at n Mhz no matter what it's doing. I suppose depending on the instruction, the CPU may use circuitry which has more transistors than other instructions, but if you consider the additional heat generated by only a handful of additional, tiny resistors and then spread that heat dissipation over the CPU's packaging, the change in temperature to the immediate environment (ie. the surface of the package) will be negligible. Cheers, Ben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ben J. Elliston Bachelor of Engineering (Computer Engineering) \\\// University of Canberra (@ @) ___ooO_( )_Ooo__ Email: compsol@fir.canberra.edu.au V Also: ellib@cbr.cpsg.com.au UUCP: ..!uunet!munnari!sserve.adfa.oz.au!compsol!root FidoNet: 3:620/262 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Text & Graphics: Bristol Technologies has help clone of MSWindows help Frame (makers of FrameMaker) has FrameView Text only: Graphical Software Technology has Xtra Widgets (includes help) There are probably others (check out ICS widget data book) I actually wrote one for the last company I worked for-- however it is locked in their internal reuse library. :-( It was a good one too! (IMHO and totally unbiased view of things) ;-)
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Yes, but what if my monitor only has 3 BNC's on it, and is expecting to get a composite sync signal on the "green"? There ought to be a little black box that takes the VGA signalling (which has horiz, vert, and composite sync on different pins, plus the R, G, and B pairs) and merges the green and composite sync together in the output. It's all 1V analog, as far as I know. I can build this with op-amps but I don't think I can get the shielding done well enough to handle the frequencies involved without lots of shadows and junk on the screen. Does anyone know of a VGA->RGB(composite sync on green) converter?
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I have a question about recursive, backward raytracing. When an incident ray (I) strikes an object at point P, first the normal (N) is calculated. Light rays are calculated (L1 to Ln where n is the number of light sources) - these being the light rays that do not intersect with anything. The reflected ray (R) and the transmitted ray (T) is calculated from the formulae. Calling the routine recursively on R and T will return the colours along the rays (R and T) as rCol and tCol. Each object has its own colour oCol and each light source has liCol (1 <= i <= n). The question is: How do you combine rCol, tCol, oCol and all the liCol's to get the correct resulting colour to return along the I ray? All colours are defined as strucures (records) having r, g, b components between 0 and 1. If anyone has done this before could you give me a few hints? -- Adrian Secchia
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Hello Netters I recenlty aquired enough money to purchase a laser printer. The other day, I bought the COMPUTER SHOPPER mag. I was looking through printer review section and noticed the WINPRINTER800. The machine is incredibly low priced for all the features it has 800 dpi! 8Meg RAM Postscript compatable envelope printing My question is does anyone have one of these or know why the price is so cheap? I would appricaiate it if someone would pass on their knowledge on this subject. Thanks alot! Dave ------------------------------ Donuts are a girls best friend
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I ran into this about six months ago. My system is a GW2000 486DX/66V, 8 megs RAM, 1Meg ATI GUP VLB. It seems the problem is that the ATI Graphics Ultra Pro card consumes the COM4 port for some reason, so only COM1-3 are available. I believe this is documented somewhere in the system manuals, but I can't recall where.
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: : Once again, someone else with a Gateway Monitor problem, anyone who can : help, please do, it would be much apprieciated. Thanks in advance. : : Ok, I have a Local Bus 486/66 machine, with the Crystal Scan 15inch : monitor. I have 1 meg of loca memory on the ATI ultra pro, w/ the : mach32 driver (the newest release). : : My problem is in Windows when I use the 1024 mode. I get shadows down : the sides of the screens, and very blurry type in the corners. The : types on the screen are all out of focus. I've gotten replacement video : cards, and a replacement monitor. None of that has helped though. : Could someone pleae help me with this very frustruating problem. I have the 1 meg card with the Crystal Scan 15 inch also. I see very faint shadows on the left side of the screen only in 1024 x 768 mode, but not enough to really bother me. The characters on the screen are clear until I turn on the Crystal Fonts, then they become blurry. I have a friend who has 2 meg on the video card who has the same shadows, but says the Crystal Fonts are, well, crystal clear. We are both using build 59 of the mach32 drivers. Neither of us has a monitor extension cable. I tried the build55 driver and found no difference.
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I originally posted a complaint about how noisy my PC was. I got several useful suggestions, but 1 was the most seductive: run your PC in silence by removing the fan altogether! Two variables: 1) I always run my PC without the cover, and 2) I'd be willing to attach a CPU cooler if that would make a difference. Should I try to run my PC without a fan? I know it sounds like utter folly so I'm asking - has anyone done this succesfully? Or tragically? You're answer may save my PC... Thanks.
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I know this has been asked a million time, but.. What was the ftp site carrying 30-40 .ZIPs of full POV "source" files, including JACK.ZIP and KETTLE.ZIP? I've once been there but unfortunately lost the address. I'm in a little hurry with it, so please e-mail me at jtheinon@kruuna.helsinki.fi. Thanks..
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<It seems silly, but while I've located things like tgif that can edit <gif files, and various tools to convert to/from gif format, I haven't <been able to locate a program that just opens a window and displays a <gif file in it. I've looked thru various faq files, also to no avail. <Is there one lurking about in some archive? Nothing sophisticated; <just "show the pretty picture"? < <Alternatively, if I could locate the specs for gif, I don't suppose it <would be too hard to write it myself, but I have no idea where to even <start looking for the spec. (Well, actually, I do have an idea - this <newsgroup. ;-) Get, xv, version 3.0. It reads/displays/manipulates many different formats.
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You don't give the precise error message, but I assume that the making of the target fails, because make can't find the rules. We've seen this happen with SunOS 5.x make as well and aat this point I'm not sure why it happens. It seems to happen with large Makefiles. The entries near the end get lost. Small changes in the makefile will remedy this problem, as it does in your example. In the MIT R5 distribution + R5.SunOS5.patch this can happen with the target ``Makefiles'' in one of the doc directories. This is really weird. Are your *really* sure that you were using GNU make?
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We have a problem with 'makedepend': it doesn't know how to correctly process #if clause in C preprocessor statements. It evaluates everything to true no matter what the conditionals are. [...] Has anybody come up with some solution/fix to 'makdepend' other than WriteYourOwnParser... and willing to share it with us? rewrite 'makedepend' to use 'cc -M' or 'gcc -M' or 'gcc -MM' (which is the one I prefer, since system headers don't change that often) for generating the actual dependencies. you'll still need to write the parts that edit the actual Makefile. I think there's a program in the Berkeley distributions called mkdep that will do essentially this.
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check prep.ai.mit.edu. It's called fax-3.2.1.tar.Z or something to that effect and is the software for netfax. Be forewarned that it requires (at the moment) a fairly costly $450 fax modem with certain capabilities to use it.
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A word of warning for those of you registering for SIGGRAPH '93. I just received my registration form back in the mail with the envelope marked "Return to sender. Moved - Left No Address. Closed PO Box". The address I used to register for SIGGRAPH '93 is the one printed on the registration form: ACM SIGGRAPH '93 PO Box 95316, Chicago, IL 60694-5316 I printed the envelope in my best printing, honest but evidently SIGGRAPH '93 has skipped town or moved? I ended up faxing my registration to: 312-321-6876. I hope that number is real!
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Has anybody had a chance to find out how the new HP Laser Jet 4L behaves with Windows ?
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I am DESPERATELY trying to find a PC based e-mail wide area network service or the necessary network software to establish one myself. While I am aware there are various BBS's and other similar services avalible (like Compuserve, Canada Remote Systems etc.) I require fairly specific criteria. In approximate order of importance they are: 1) The mail/files/news are read/written locally and batched to the network server. (ie. no continuous on-line connection)(NOTE: all users are remote and will use modems over conventional phone lines.) 2) Simple. The users I have for the system have very little computer knowledge have never heard of Unix, and have very little interest in learning. It is essential that the client software is completely pain-free. 3) Cheap. We would prefer not paying high connect fees to an established commercial network, just so we can send large files between members of the group - hence (1). In addition I would like the network server to be something small, simple and inexpensive like a 486. (There are only about 40 people in the group, so it is not a huge network.) 4) The capability for Internet access (for news/mail). 5) Internet style id's (eg. pwood@math.uwaterloo.ca) If anyone knows of a system similar to what I am describing, even if it doesn't sastisfy all my criteria, and I don't care where it is, PLEASE PLEASE e-mail me and tell me about it. We are not adverse to making alterations to an existing system if necessary.
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Hi everybody out there, I just got the third beta release disk (march 93) of WindowsNT and still am not able to boot up that system. The final step achieved is the display of IO-error 0x0069. But, since this is the beta release of the SDK for NT and not of NT, Microsoft does not include a manual on the OS itself, explaining what this error means of what I can do to get rid of. My configuration is: Mainboard Hauppauge 4860-25, rev. A7 (a 486 with socket for i860) 28megs of memory (512k*36,1M*36,2M*36) AMI EISA SCSI controller (15series), latest bios, 16MB cache ST41200N hard disk Syquest 555 removable disk Toshiba 3301 CD ROM drive ProAudio Spectrum Plus 16 Longshine Ethernet card LCS8634 (NE2000 comp.) ET4000 graphics card, 1Meg (ColorImage5) The system is running fine under DOS and Windows 3.1 etc, but trying to do the setup for NT, - automatic setup does not recognize controller (AHA1542-compat.) when adding manually, NT complains not finging any CD-ROM drive - the manual setup (WINNT) does not copy everything from CD to HD, does not recognize controller, but takes it manually. Setup continues until it tries to boot. Then it starts loading several stuff from disk (seems to fing the HD), but messing up with that damned IO-Error 69. I took away all IO cards not essential, but that did not make any effect. Anybody got any ideas? Help would be greatly appreciated.
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My Windows 3.1 installation has somehow gone awry. Whenever I try to run Windows now, the logo comes up OK, but when it tries to enter Windows itself, the screen gets totally screwed up as if it's in the wrong graphics mode or something. It's completely illegible although functional as I can still exit to DOS with an ALT-E RETURN combination. I tried to reinstall Windows again, but if you recall, halfway through the installation process, install takes you into Windows and there my graphics problem surfaces again so I cannot complete the re-installation. All this started after trying to get a game working on my system but my config.sys and autoexec.bat have been restored to what they were before this problem cropped up. I'm running a 486-33DX with a Diamond Stealth VRAM (I've resinstalled the Stealth video drivers again but with no luck). I'm also using QEMM and Stacker 3.0 but Windows is installed on an un-stacked partition. And of course, it worked perfectly before. Any email replies and suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Jasen Mabus RPI student I am looking for a hman brain in any CAD (.dxf,.cad,.iges,.cgm,etc.) or picture (.gif,.jpg,.ras,etc.) format for an animation demonstration. If any has or knows of a location please reply by e-mail to mabusj@rpi.edu.
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I have two UN-opened, NEW Epson Action Printers 2250 for sale. List price at CompUSA is $169, I'm asking $100 + shipping for each. My friend and I got the printers at a promotional event at one of the CompUSA stores near our area. We didn't need printers, so we're selling it. Specs for printer: 9-pin dot matrix printer 240 cps Draft, 40 cps NLQ 50 sheet paper tray (Does single sheets!) Prints on letterhead Small footprint (Can be used either flat or upright!) Quiet operation can support an optional tractor feeder comes with Full (2-year) manufacturer's warranty if interested reply to: phillyg@acs.bu.edu Trades are welcome!!!
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Take a look at TeleUSE, a complete UIMS from Alsys (formerly TeleSoft). In the US, you can reach them at (619) 457 2700. Alsys have an VMS version of TeleUSE v2.0.5 for VMS V5.5 or higher, built using DECwindows Motif 1.0 (based on X11R4 and Motif v1.1.1). BTW, the VMS port from the UNIX version was made at my company, and was released in November 1992.
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: Wasn't the shareware fee a "suggestion" by John? : Is so then it's up to the individual to make the choice whether or not to : honour it and part with money. Personally if I was in his position I would : do exactly the same thing, John has obviously put in lot of time and effort : into xv and why shouldn't he receive some money for it. : Just my pennies worth : (Keep up the good work John) Yeah I agree..I am very impressed by the kind of effort that has gone into the lastest release...some people are just looking for excuses to gripe.. I personally feel that the work is worth much more that $25...after seeing the kind of things people get paid for..
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I am getting desperate. I have a report that must be finished by midnight, and W4W doesn't seem to have what appears to be a MUST! I use the autonum field for numbering chapters, but my document is distributed amongst several files. I just can't find a way to make Word start the numbering at something else than 0 or 1. Of course, everything is fine in the first file, but it's pretty stupid when ALL chapters are numbered as 1 !!!!!!!! Please, if you have ANY solution to this (except from putting it all in one 10M document ...) e-mail me immediately ! As I am working on th report I hardly have any time to read News, so please e-mail me. All answers will be heartly welcome ... In advance, thanx a lot !!!!!!
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I would like to see a serious discussion on the best way to install windows from a Novell administrator's point of view. I just got off the phone with MS Access support and was told that they (Microsoft) has decided to implement, as a standard for software support, the LOCAL setup (described below) as the "most advantageous installation". If this is true and Microsoft deems this to be the most prudent installation then I will comply but I'd like to hear it from administrators first. The LOCAL Windows Installation: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Windows is fully installed on each workstation hard drive (assuming the resources are available). From a network administrator's implementation, he/she would install all windows disks on a network drive using SETUP/A. Then install windows on a per/machine bases by running SETUP off the network to install the complete system on the local drives. In this way, all drivers are available to the SETUP procedure w/o the need to change disks. Advantages: - Reduce Traffic - Running Windows locally reduces network traffic due to the local access of main Windows files. - Network independence - If the network fails (and they all do at one point or another), the local installation would allow users to keep producing and reduce the cost of down-time. - Faster Windows - Theoretically, Windows will run faster from a local hard drive than over a network. This may be a hard point to prove if the network has an optical backbone and/or the network drives are significantly faster access than local ones. - A user traveling from machine to machine does not need to worry about varying setups (monochrome, color, types of mouse, etc...) since the Windows installation is assigned to the Workstation. Disadvantages: - Cost - Installing Windows locally requires a significant amount of disk space. Workstations now must be purchased with a hard disk that can increase the cost of the workstation from 10 to 30 percent. - Administration - Local windows installations are very difficult to administer. New drivers for peripherals are constantly being made available, each of which would have to be individually installed on each workstation. - Security - Users now have access to erase or corrupt their own system files from simple ignorance. This could result in quite a headache for administrators who may have to constantly repair damaged installations. - Backup - We all know the problems backing up local hard disks. The backup sets (if done via a centralized tape system) get very large very quickly. Backup individually (to floppy) may not happen at all. This may be eliminated if it is assumed that local hard disks only contain replaceable applications and *not* user data. The SHARED Windows Installation ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Windows is fully installed to a network disk via the SETUP/A procedure described above. Users (or administrators) then install a minimal set of files to individual "user" directories. These directories may be on a local hard disk or perhaps a network "home" directory. The bulk of the Windows system files are maintained on the network in a single directory (some 400+ files) and are accessed (shared) as-needed by users throughout their Windows session. The user's files consist of a small set of files that the user has updated during his/her Windows session. These include group files, .INI files and other regularly updated files. Advantages: - A single location for all files makes updates to drives easy. As an updated driver becomes available, it only needs to be installed in this single directory for all users to be able to take advantage of it. - Assuming that the users' files are maintained in network (home) directories, the administrator can easily edit any .INI file as-needed to correct problems that may arise. This includes WIN.INI and SYSTEM.INI. - Backup of all pertinent files is done easily. Even if the users' files are on a local hard disk, the bulk of the Windows system is backed up with all driver updates. Disadvantages: - Network traffic - since all Windows files are being shared in a network directory, traffic on the network can become a problem an effect the speed of Windows. - If the network crashes, all production comes to a stop since Window's is reliant upon the network for its files. Loss of data usually occurs as well since users working in Windows at the time of the crash will usually not be able to save their work. - Although minimal, disk space is still a consideration. If the users' files are maintained on the network, a large number of users can cause a significant utilization of disk space due to their personal Windows files alone. - Users cannot easily move from machine to machine unless the workstation hardware are similar. This is due to the Windows installation being tied to a particular username (in the case of Network user files). The Discussion ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I would like to know, from other administrators with a large Windows userbase, how they prefer setting up Windows. Personally, I have setup numerous installations using the SHARED setup. All Windows and application files are on the network with little or no utilization of local hard disks. In fact, I sold a network on the fact that the company would no longer need to purchase hard disks for their workstations and thus save that much more money. I would also like to see recommendations for applications. Should apps such as Word and/or Excel be installed locally regardless of how Windows is installed? Again, I keep all files on the network for easy backup and administration but this is "putting all eggs in one basket"; if the network crashes, work comes to a halt.
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I have recently picked up a page scanner by the name of EZ-SCAN II model 35. The software for it was made for per-Windows 3.x windows and will not work with the newwer windows. Does any one out there kow were I could find the company that made this beast (Copyrights say 1987.) And the name GMS a division of DEST. Does anyone know if these companies still exist and if they do, do they have an email address? Or, if anyone knows of a freeware/shareware programme that is able to access this scanner.
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No, it does not. -- "Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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Is that the number of "left" legs, or both left and right?
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It's a request to personal users; it's a requirement for commercial, government, and institutional users. Someone else asked whether the authors of the JPEG and TIFF software had given permission to incorporate their code into a commercial product. I found the following in jpeg/README: We specifically permit and encourage the use of this software as the basis of commercial products, provided that all warranty or liability claims are assumed by the product vendor. and the following in tiff/Copyright: Permission to use, copy, modify, distribute, and sell this software and its documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, ... Looks like he's OK on that account. -- Barry Margolin System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.
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Doesn't anybody actually read the licence agreement of WinBench before blindly running it? The licence agreement very clearly says that details about hardware configuration, driver, resolution and other relevant facts *MUST* be included when giving WinMark results. Ziff-Davis wants everybody to do this and that requirement makes sense, really! Plain numbers are useless when resolution, driver and machine are unknown.
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i want to do something like this: date | xcb -s 0 | xcutsel to get the output of the date command put into the XPRIMARY selection. unfortunately, xcutsel is an interactive little bugger and there isn't a command argument to tell it to just do it and not put up its little window. so, is there some other command that i CAN use like this? or, is there an analog to xcb that will put stuff in XPRIMARY instead of cut buffer 0?
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-- In the R5 file fix-01 there is the line that reads as the subject line here. I don't see a file fix-00. When I got a few Hmmm... lines putting on fix-01, it made me wonder if I has missed 00. Am I off the mark? Thank you. ====================================================================== Ray Stell stellr@smyrna.cc.vt.edu (703) 231-4109
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Does anyone have any information on the Polaroid Palette system. It appears to be a gadget for transfering graphics images to film. Does anyone have any detail about it like the maximum supported resolution or types of video input???? What did Polaroid market them as????? Fletch
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Howdy, Netlanders: Can you put an ISA card into an EISA slot? Also, can you put a 8-bit PC card in an ISA slot? Please e-mail if possible, Thanks ahead of time,
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I have a 486 DX 33 motherboard in my pc that i'd like to speed up. I'd rather not replace the whole motherboard, instead i'd like to know if i can use a DX/2 66Mhz cpu. The BIOS is late model AMI, circa 1991, and the system crystal is approx 66.3Mhz. My question is, can i just replace the original 33MHz cpu with the new DX/2 cpu? If its possible, will there be a need for extra cooling devices such as heatsinks and / or muffin fans??
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I replied: You answered: I think it is important to clear up your first reply. You gave the impression that you should not use smartdrive with stacker. You are correct re: caching the compressed drive. However, as I understand it, you can cache the uncompressed drive. Thus if you have compressed your disk C:, you will have a C and probably a D drive under stacker. C being the compressed disk (which is just a large file on D:) and D being the uncompressed disk. You should only attempt to stack D:. In fact, with Win 3.1 and smartdrv.exe, it seems smart enough to automatically default to stacking your A,B and D drives.
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Yes, it looks like very good indeed. Nope.
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It depends on wether you are going to replace this with an icon that comes standard with windows, or with an icon from some other icon manager. Well, if it is one of those that comes with windows, just highlight the item by clicking once on it, click on 'File' and then on 'Properties'. You should see a box which says 'Change icon'. Click on it. You are going to be presented with some icons (sometimes just one). If you don't like any of those presented, click on the 'browse' box, and look for the file 'moricons.dll' Select it. Browse through the icons presented, and just double click on your desired icon. If you want to replace it with an icon from some other icon manager, say iconPower for instance, open the icon manager at the bottom of your screen, where it will not block the application icon you wish to replace. When you have found your desired icon, click on it once, and while holding the mouse button down, pull this icon over the one you wish to change. And thats it! regards ___________________________________________________________________________
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: 09.05.93, 14:48 : Hi out there ! : Is there anybody who can write me how to add icons to the iconlist (which : is build-into) of Progman.exe ? : I'm grateful for every clue ! : Thanx and have a nice day ! One way is to use a program called Iconmaster. It's shareware and If you can't get it mail me, and I'll post it to you.
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[stuff deleted] The colormap element of SetWinAttrib must be a legitimate TrueColor colormap. So, use XCreateColormap() with the proper visual and use it in SetWinAttrib (and don't forget the mask!). And the inevitable caveat: I usually use widgets, setting the visual and colormap resources rather than direct X routines, so I could be wrong. But, I think this is the general difficulty.
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Ithaca technical support can be reached at: tech_support@ithaca.com or by phone at: 510-523-5900
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I've got an old Super VGA card manufactured by SAMPO of Taiwan and I'm looking for a Windows 3.1 Driver for it. It's based on the Cirrus Logic CL-GD510A-32PC-B chip. I've contacted the suppliers here in New Zealand and they say that only Windows 2 divers were ever written by the manufacturer. So if there's a V3.1 driver out for this chip set I'd like to know - preferably by e-mail at rjwjames@waikato.ac.nz Thanks is advance
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Has anyone ever heard of the X Professional Organization? Is anyone a member? Is the membership worth the $100 or so that they charge?
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Yes it invokes the associated application. That takes but 10 seconds?
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: Has anyone else experienced anything like this? If this just means that I : need to replace the screen then I guess I'll have to but I thought that the : "death" of my LCD screen would be a little less dramatic when it eventually : happened. I didn't want to take it in to be repaired before I asked on the : net about this because I already know what they'll say: "Yep, you gotta have : this replaced and it's gonna cost you $???." : I've only had the computer for about 21 months. "Only"?!? That's a long time! (echoing above posting) The way the market is going nowadays, your machine's obsolete two weeks before you buy it. Sounds like you'll have to sink *some* money into it for repair, but that's sometimes necessary for equipment. : Is that a reasonable life : cycle for a LCD display? I think 21 months with nothing wrong until now is quite reasonable. If you had bought a Compaq or Toshiba, you might have reasonably expected the machine to last longer before something went wrong; but that's a moot point, perhaps. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- sandy santra _\/_ trevor@netcom.com berkeley, california /\ trevor@well.sf.ca.us
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Thanks to everyone who mailed help, unfortunately the end problem was a REALLY stupid `oversight' on my behalf. The code was 100% perfect, but it might help to add Control.C to my makefile....... Anyway the mangled name was telling me it could'nt locate the Control constructor...
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2-The-Max VESA VL video controller/ Cirus Logic chipset (2Mb ram, 24-bit color, 1280x1024 NI) Does XFree1.2 (or 2.0) support this card?
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: This may be an FAQ (if so, please direct me to the known answer) but I : am getting frustrated and looking for help. : : I am running Win 3.1 with NDW 2.2 on a 486sx with 8 meg of memory and a : 6 meg perm swap file and am getting exceedingly frustrated that my : applications are not giving back system resources when I close them. : I've noticed this also. The way it was explained to me is that Windows does not clear the upper memory blocks after a program is done. Anyone out there know if this is why?
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Look be consistent. First you post something that seems to suggest that you see xv being an 8 bit program as some sort of error. So I post and asy it is not a bug, it is meant to be like that. So you post and say it is not a bug, you never said it was, I have misunderstood etc. Now you are saying: If you would make up your mind what you are claiming it would make the discussion a *lot* easier. ---------------- Eh? Sorry, I don't understand what you are saying here. I am aware that English is not your native language and have tried hard to fathom your meaning, but this paragraph defeats me. Yes *as I originally said*, global changes are easily possible. But this statement contradicts what you said earlier: --------------- No I don't think so actually. You were talking about loading a 24 bit image into xv (by quantising), manipulating the colours in the colour editor, then somewhow applying these changes to the 24 bit file when you exit xv. Xv lets you edit individual colours. Where is this sudden jumping off the topic? Yes I am aware there is no colourmap in a 24 bit file!! I do not understand what this statement is supposed to mean. ??? What are you saying ??? Ah! now we see thew problem! First you want to extend xv to allow editing of 8 bit previews of 24 bit images. Then I point out problems with this. Now you are saying there is no problem because you, personally, happen not to use those parts of the program that cause the problem!! Not sure what you are saying here. Certainly one can make local changes. Yes that is one possible approach. I would find a program that took such an approach clumsy, however. Well here we agree - you have not thought it through very much. You don't seem to have a consistent point to make and contradict yourself from one post to the next. OK, we all have off days - perhaps you should step back and think this one through. As I said in the last post, JPEG is a compression algorithm. It is a way of saving disk space by trading off quality against compression. I fail to see what the problem is. You have not proposed any workable alternatives. Speak for yourself. You are the *only* person I have met or spoken to who, having quantised a 24 bit image down to 8 bits, expects this process to somehow reverse when the file is saved; keeping all modificvations that heve been made to the 8 bit image palette. Perhaps that is why you yused the singular? Look, next time you import a 24 bit image into xv look carefully at the main control panel - it tells you how many colours have been allocated to the 8 bit image. XV makes it abundantly clear that you are not editing the original 24 bit file. You are the *only* person who claims this is confusing. Is a design error the same as a bug? ;-) Read my lips. XV is a program for viewing and modifying 8 bit images. It lets you import other images. It shows, I would say, a good deal of thought about the human interface. And everyone else seems to use it happily for the purpose it was designed for. It makes no false claims. If you would come up with a solid, logical, well argued and lucid description of precisely how these proposed extensions would work, feel free to post them. So far, you have not done so. Argh!! After all this, a comment like that. `Very easily'. OK, go ahead and code it if it is so easy. Or alternatively, look up the terms `import' and 'non-reversible transformation'. I think this is a bit of an exageration. What you are actually saying is, you got into a lift (elevator, if you are in the states ;-) ) and mistakenly pressed the down button to go up. Everyone else had no problem. Now you are trying to sue the manufacturer... you bet Mostly. Leaving aside the language issue however, it betrays some very wooly thinking (as you yourself admit) which is the same in any language. Go think some more. -- Chris Lilley ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Technical Author, ITTI Computer Graphics and Visualisation Training Project Computer Graphics Unit, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Road, Manchester, UK. M13 9PL Internet: C.C.Lilley@mcc.ac.uk Voice: +44 (0)61 275 6045 Fax: +44 (0)61 275 6040 Janet: C.C.Lilley@uk.ac.mcc
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[[ I posted this a few weeks back, but all I got back was an error message "pnews: /dev/null: Permission denied". Yep, /dev/null had a mode of 600. (Arrghhh!!) ]] With renewed interest in "setting the DISPLAY variable", etc.. I thought I would post my contribution. This Perl script is my solution. It trys to be intelligent about what it's doing so that you should be able to type "rx host.domain.etc", and get a xterm running on "host.domain.etc", with all the difficult stuff taken care of. In theory, this program can do *everything* you ever wanted to do when you wanted to run a remote command in the background - it doesn't even need to be an X program. Try a "rx big-machine make" for instance, for a backgrounded make on the remote "big-machine". For more details and a full list of features read the README file, about 20 lines below... All comments welcome. Duncan. #! /bin/sh # This is a shell archive. Remove anything before this line, then unpack # it by saving it into a file and typing "sh file". To overwrite existing # files, type "sh file -c". You can also feed this as standard input via # unshar, or by typing "sh <file", e.g.. If this archive is complete, you # will see the following message at the end: # "End of archive 1 (of 1)." # Contents: README Imakefile MANIFEST Makefile rx.man rx.pl # Wrapped by sinclair@dcs.gla.ac.uk on Thu Apr 8 18:47:48 1993 PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb ; export PATH if test -f 'README' -a "${1}" != "-c" ; then echo shar: Will not clobber existing file \"'README'\" else echo shar: Extracting \"'README'\" \(1442 characters\) sed "s/^X//" >'README' <<'END_OF_FILE' X X Glasgow RX - remote execution of X programs. Version 3.1.7 X XCopyright 1992 Duncan Sinclair <sinclair@dcs.gla.ac.uk> X XTrivial to install, but there's an Imakefile to make it even more trivial. X XThe perl script needs some customisation before it is installed, just Xedit the "rx.pl" file, and read the comments. Once you've done Xthis you can "xmkmf", then "make install install.man". X XFEATURES: X X*) Does the right thing for off-site remote execution. Including X setting up $DISPLAY to include domain names, and passing X magic cookies, or doing the "xhost" stuff. X X*) Allow different remote user name. (rx -l user host ...) X X*) Smart quoting of arguments - makes passing wild-cards easy. X X*) Custom command execution - link it to "remacs" to get a remote X emacs command. X X*) Automatic xterm options - names the xterm according to hostname, X and turns on "login shell". X X*) Default command is xterm. X X*) Propagates X-ish env. variables to remote session - user may X extend the list of variables to pass. X X*) Special handling for bourne shell users. X X*) Tries to do remote execution from same directory as local. X That is, it propagates $PWD, in an intelligent manner. X X*) Logs errors in a file. X X*) Overall Intelligence (TM) - makes reasoned decisions about what X you are trying to do, and tries to "do the right thing". X X*) Written in Perl, for portability and hackability. X XFor more info, read the man page or the source. X END_OF_FILE if test 1442 -ne `wc -c <'README'`; then echo shar: \"'README'\" unpacked with wrong size! fi # end of 'README' fi if test -f 'Imakefile' -a "${1}" != "-c" ; then echo shar: Will not clobber existing file \"'Imakefile'\" else echo shar: Extracting \"'Imakefile'\" \(370 characters\) sed "s/^X//" >'Imakefile' <<'END_OF_FILE' X# Glasgow RX Imakefile. X X PROGRAMS = rx X Xall:: $(PROGRAMS) X Xinstall:: safe X XInstallNamedProg(rx.pl,rx,$(BINDIR)) XInstallManPage(rx,$(MANDIR)) X Xinstall:: X $(RM) $(BINDIR)/rxterm X $(LN) $(BINDIR)/rx $(BINDIR)/rxterm X Xsafe: X @grep -s 'debug = 0' rx.pl || false X Xshar: safe X makekit -m -p X @-perl -pi -e "s/sinclair@dcs.gla.ac.uk/sinclair@dcs.gla.ac.uk/;" Part* X END_OF_FILE if test 370 -ne `wc -c <'Imakefile'`; then echo shar: \"'Imakefile'\" unpacked with wrong size! fi # end of 'Imakefile' fi if test -f 'MANIFEST' -a "${1}" != "-c" ; then echo shar: Will not clobber existing file \"'MANIFEST'\" else echo shar: Extracting \"'MANIFEST'\" \(313 characters\) sed "s/^X//" >'MANIFEST' <<'END_OF_FILE' X File Name Archive # Description X----------------------------------------------------------- X README 1 Read me first X Imakefile 1 X MANIFEST 1 This shipping list X Makefile 1 X rx.man 1 X rx.pl 1 END_OF_FILE if test 313 -ne `wc -c <'MANIFEST'`; then echo shar: \"'MANIFEST'\" unpacked with wrong size! fi # end of 'MANIFEST' fi if test -f 'Makefile' -a "${1}" != "-c" ; then echo shar: Will not clobber existing file \"'Makefile'\" else echo shar: Extracting \"'Makefile'\" \(10172 characters\) sed "s/^X//" >'Makefile' <<'END_OF_FILE' X# Makefile generated by imake - do not edit! 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X X PROGRAMS = rx X Xall:: $(PROGRAMS) X Xinstall:: safe X Xinstall:: rx.pl X @if [ -d $(DESTDIR)$(BINDIR) ]; then set +x; \ X else (set -x; $(MKDIRHIER) $(DESTDIR)$(BINDIR)); fi X $(INSTALL) -c $(INSTBINFLAGS) rx.pl $(DESTDIR)$(BINDIR)/rx X Xinstall.man:: rx.man X @if [ -d $(DESTDIR)$(MANDIR) ]; then set +x; \ X else (set -x; $(MKDIRHIER) $(DESTDIR)$(MANDIR)); fi X $(INSTALL) -c $(INSTMANFLAGS) rx.man $(DESTDIR)$(MANDIR)/rx.$(MANSUFFIX) X Xinstall:: X $(RM) $(BINDIR)/rxterm X $(LN) $(BINDIR)/rx $(BINDIR)/rxterm X Xsafe: X @grep -s 'debug = 0' rx.pl || false X Xshar: safe X makekit -m -p X @-perl -pi -e "s/sinclair@dcs.gla.ac.uk/sinclair@dcs.gla.ac.uk/;" Part* X X# ------------------------------------------------------------------------- X# common rules for all Makefiles - do not edit X Xemptyrule:: X Xclean:: X $(RM_CMD) "#"* X XMakefile:: X -@if [ -f Makefile ]; then set -x; \ X $(RM) Makefile.bak; $(MV) Makefile Makefile.bak; \ X else exit 0; fi X $(IMAKE_CMD) -DTOPDIR=$(TOP) -DCURDIR=$(CURRENT_DIR) X Xtags:: X $(TAGS) -w *.[ch] X $(TAGS) -xw *.[ch] > TAGS X Xsaber: X # load $(ALLDEFINES) $(SRCS) X Xosaber: X # load $(ALLDEFINES) $(OBJS) X X# ------------------------------------------------------------------------- X# empty rules for directories that do not have SUBDIRS - do not edit X Xinstall:: X @echo "install in $(CURRENT_DIR) done" X Xinstall.man:: X @echo "install.man in $(CURRENT_DIR) done" X XMakefiles:: X Xincludes:: X X# ------------------------------------------------------------------------- X# dependencies generated by makedepend X END_OF_FILE if test 10172 -ne `wc -c <'Makefile'`; then echo shar: \"'Makefile'\" unpacked with wrong size! fi # end of 'Makefile' fi if test -f 'rx.man' -a "${1}" != "-c" ; then echo shar: Will not clobber existing file \"'rx.man'\" else echo shar: Extracting \"'rx.man'\" \(3551 characters\) sed "s/^X//" >'rx.man' <<'END_OF_FILE' X.TH RX 1 "4 March 1993" "X Version 11" X.SH NAME Xrx,rxterm,r* - remote command, xterm, anything execution X.SH SYNOPSIS X.B rx X[ X.B \-l X.I username X] X.I host X[ X.I command X] X.br X.B rxterm X[ X.B \-l X.I username X] X.I host X[ X.IR args .\|.\|. X] X.SH DESCRIPTION XThe X.B rx Xprogram connect to the specified X.I host Xand executes the specified X.I command Xin the background, returning immediately. To allow the execution Xof X programs, it copies a number of environmental variables to Xthe remote session. If you omit X.IR command , Xthen rx will start an xterm on the remote host. The X.B rxterm Xvarient starts a remote xterm on a host, and also passes X.I args Xto the remote xterm as arguments. X.PP XShell metacharacters which are not quoted are interpreted on the local Xmachine, while quoted metacharacters are interpreted on the remote Xmachine. X.PP XIf the name of the file from which X.B rx Xis executed is anything other than ``rx,'' X.B rx Xtakes this name, stripped on a leading ``r'' as the command Xto run on the remote host, using any X.I command Xparameters as arguments for the remote command. X.PP XIf X.B rx Xthinks you are using X.B xauth Xbased X authorisation, and you are calling to a off-site host, or Xto a different username, it will attempt to copy an authorization Xkey to the remote account. Otherwise it will try to use X.B xhost(1) Xto grant access to the remote host. X.SH OPTIONS X.TP X.BI \-l " username" XUse X.I username Xas the remote username instead of your local username. In the absence Xof this option, the remote username is the same as your local username. X X.SH ENVIRONMENT XIf set, the values of PATH, DISPLAY, XENVIRONMENT, XAPPLRESDIR, XXFILESEARCHPATH, XUSERFILESEARCHPATH, OPENWINHOME, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, Xand XAUTHORITY are exported to the remote program, unless the Xremote username is different, or the remote host is off-site, in which Xcase only DISPLAY is exported, with in all cases any variables named in the Xvariable RXENV. X.PP XThe DISPLAY variable is tweaked as appropriate, to contain as qualified Xa hostname as is needed. X.SH DIAGNOSTICS X.TP X.IB command ": don't recognise my name." X.B rx Xcannot decode the name it has been called under. In this case Xit prints a warning message, and continues, as normal. X.TP X.B "rx: usage: rx [-l username] hostname [args...]" XThis means it could not decode the arguments given to it. X.SH AUTHOR XDuncan Sinclair <sinclair@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, July 1992 X.br XOriginally based on a program with the same name from the X.B gwm Xdistribution. To distinguish this "rx" from other programs Xwith similar names, you should refer to this program as the X.B Glasgow X.BR rx . X.SH "SEE ALSO" XX(1), rsh(1), xterm(1), xauth(1), xhost(1), gwm(1) X.SH BUGS X.B Rx Xmakes a number of assumptions about the relationship between the Xlocal user, and the remote one, depending on whether the remote Xhost is onsite or not, and whether an alternative username was used Xor not. X.PP XIn particular, if either the locally used shell, or the remotely Xused shell is the standard Bourne Shell, X.B sh(1) Xthen strange things are more likely to happen. Especially when Xit's only one of them. X.PP XSometimes quoting can get messed up. X.PP XIt's too easy to fool the smarts in X.B rx Xto make it believe something that is not true, and fail because of it. X.PP XWhen X.B rx Xuses X.B xhost Xto grant access, the X.B xhost Xcommand may fail silently. X.PP XIf X.B rx Xtries to send to large a command to the remote machine, it will Xlikely fail with a parse error from csh. If this happens, you Xwill probably have to reduce the size of the exported environment. END_OF_FILE if test 3551 -ne `wc -c <'rx.man'`; then echo shar: \"'rx.man'\" unpacked with wrong size! fi # end of 'rx.man' fi if test -f 'rx.pl' -a "${1}" != "-c" ; then echo shar: Will not clobber existing file \"'rx.pl'\" else echo shar: Extracting \"'rx.pl'\" \(9028 characters\) sed "s/^X//" >'rx.pl' <<'END_OF_FILE' X#! /usr/local/bin/perl X# CONFIG: change the line above to point to your copy of perl. X############################################################################## X# Glasgow RX version 3.1.7 X# X# Copyright 1992 Duncan Sinclair <sinclair@dcs.gla.ac.uk> X# X# Last Modified: Early April 1993. X# X# Distribution limited, as per the usual MIT copyright. X############################################################################## X# remote execution of X programs. Based on a script in an old version of gwm. X# X# To install, put rx in your bin and make rxterm a link to it. X# Some configuration will be necessary, see "CONFIG" comments... X# X# More and more this is less and less like the original.... X# X# Major hacked to work for our(my) set up, and also partly X# re-written to work with sh, rather than ksh. X# X# Maybe I'll turn this into our first zsh script! X# X# Looks like it turned into a perl script at some point - big improvement. X############################################################################## X# This code tries to be intelligent in the way it works. This means there X# are tons of implicit assumptions about the environment it is run in. X# These assumptions are all valid on the machines I use, and in my X# environment. At the same time, I try to make as few assumptions as possible X# about the remote machine. Here's a list of all the more tricky ones... X# *) That the remote machine has csh. (Linux?) X# *) That $RSHELL = /bin/(k)?sh ==> remote shell = /bin/(k)?sh. (Make same.) X# *) If remote shell = sh, that $PATH is compatible. (Use csh, etc..) X# *) I pass a cookie to the remote machine if need be, but does it X# know what to do with a cookie. (eat it?) X# *) There must be others... X############################################################################## X# Why am I using csh to run the remote commands? Simply because it doesn't X# interact badly with rsh, and hang waiting for a file descriptor to X# be closed. I'd rather use zsh, or bash, or even perl, but they are not X# as universal as csh. X############################################################################## X# Xrequire "stat.pl"; X# X# What we called? X# X$argv0 = $0 ; X$argv0 =~ s:.*/:: ; X# X# CONFIG: X# Change these variables to be your domain name, and a pattern that X# will match all variations on your domain name. You must include X# those leading dots!!! If your hostname includes your domain, see X# the code further down, marked "XXX" X# X$DOM = ".dcs.gla.ac.uk" ; X$DOMPAT = "\.dcs(\.gla(sgow)?(\.ac\.uk)?)?" ; X# X# CONFIG: X# Change this to your value of BINDIR, or set the variable to "" if X# you think your users are smarter than that. X# X$XPATHS = "/usr/X11/bin" ; X# X# CONFIG: X# Make this the name of your "remote shell" command. X# X$RSH = "rsh" ; X# X# end of CONFIG X# X# Some variables we'll no doubt use sometime... X# X$usage = "$argv0: usage: $argv0 [-l username] hostname [args...]\n" ; X$RSHELL = (getpwuid($<))[8] || "/bin/sh" ; X$HOME = $ENV{"HOME"} || (getpwuid($<))[7] ; X$XAUTH = $ENV{"XAUTHORITY"} || $HOME . "/.Xauthority" ; X$LOGF = "~/.rx.log" ; X@STUFF = () ; X$debug = 0 ; X# X# Before anything else, close stdin. This might stop rx hanging X# due to rsh weirdness. X# Xclose(STDIN); X# X# do a "-l" flag... X# Xif ($ARGV[0] eq "-l") { X shift ; X $User = $ARGV[0] || die $usage ; X @LUser = ("-l",$User) ; X shift ; X} X# X# Pick a host, any host... X# X$MACH = $ARGV[0] || die $usage ; Xshift ; X# X# Things to think about for the remote machine. X# X$MACH =~ s/$DOMPAT// ; X$OffSite = $MACH =~ /\./ ; X# X# Where am I? Seems we can't trust the dumb user to set HOSTNAME right! X# X#$HOSTNAME=$ENV{HOSTNAME} || `hostname` ; # Current Host X$HOSTNAME=`hostname` ; # Current Host X$HOSTNAME =~ s/\n// ; X# X# If all your hostnames include your domain, comment out the next line. X# Xif ( $OffSite ) { $HOSTNAME = $HOSTNAME . $DOM ; } # XXX X# X# Now we know where we are, and they are, are they different? X# X$Diff = $HOSTNAME ne $MACH ; X# X# What is the display going to be? X# !! Danger !! Heavy Regular expressions follow... X# This needs to be re-written to be modular and can so be extended to X# support resetting host:* to unix:*, as required. X# X$DISPLAY = $ENV{"DISPLAY"} || ":0.0" ; X$DISPLAY =~ s/$DOMPAT// ; X$DISPLAY =~ s/^(unix)?(:\d(\.\d)?)$/$HOSTNAME$2/ if ($Diff) ; X$DISPLAY =~ s/^([^.]*)(:\d(\.\d)?)$/$1$DOM$2/ if ($OffSite) ; X$ENV{"DISPLAY"} = $DISPLAY ; X# X# Here comes the hard bit in sh. Quote our args. X# Also have to quote quotes. To cope with csh braindamage, X# quotes are quoted thus; ' -> '\'' X# So for an arg "foo'bar", we get "'foo'\''bar'". X# Xforeach (@ARGV) { X s#\'#\'\\\'\'#g ; X s#(.*)#\'$1\'# ; X} X# X# So what we doing? X# XPROG: { X if ($argv0 eq "rx") { last PROG ; } X if ($argv0 eq "rxterm") { X #unshift(@ARGV,"-ls") if ($Diff) ; X unshift(@ARGV,"xterm","-ls","-n",$MACH) ; X last PROG ; X } X if ($argv0 =~ /r(.*)/) { unshift(@ARGV,$1) ; last PROG ; } X warn "$argv0: don't recognise my name." ; X} X# X# If nothing else, become an rxterm. X# Xif (@ARGV == 0) { X #unshift(@ARGV,"-ls") if ($Diff) ; X unshift(@ARGV,"xterm","-ls","-n",$MACH) ; X} X# X# Some special considerations if we are not ourselves on the other side. X# Xif ($OffSite || $User) { X # X # We want to pass a cookie here. X # X if (-e $XAUTH) { X # X # This is going to be unsecure, as the cookie will appear in a number X # of command line args. But at least it'll work. X # This will need enhanced if we ever fix the code above to X # set DISPLAY to ":0.0", when we return to the server. X # X $CooKie = `PATH=\$PATH:$XPATHS xauth list $DISPLAY` ; X chop($CooKie) ; X @CooKs = split(' ',$CooKie) ; X shift(@CooKs) ; X unshift(@STUFF,"xauth","add",$DISPLAY,@CooKs,";") if (@CooKs == 2) ; X } else { X # X # Yuk. What a crock. I hate doing this. X # X system("xhost +$MACH >/dev/null 2>/dev/null") if ($Diff) ; X } X # X # We really only want to pass a value for $DISPLAY. X # X @VARS=("DISPLAY", split(' ',$ENV{"RXENV"})) ; X} else { X # X # Some variables we wish to export X # X @VARS=( X "DISPLAY", X "XENVIRONMENT", X "XFILESEARCHPATH", X "XUSERFILESEARCHPATH", X "XAPPLRESDIR", X "OPENWINHOME", X "LD_LIBRARY_PATH", X # "MANPATH", # for "rxman", and bourne shell users. X "XAUTHORITY", X split(' ',$ENV{"RXENV"}), X ) ; X # X # Braindead bourne shell, needs to be given a $PATH... X # We would rather not pass the current $PATH, because it might not work X # on the destination machine. I'd rather it was set by the user's X # remote shell during the rsh. X # Fortunately, all *my* X programs are in an arch independant place, and X # so it shouldn't cos a problem, locally. X # We check against $RSHELL, because they might be running another shell, X # differant from their login shell. I know, sounds weird, but it's too X # common round here. X # I've also included ksh in the brain-damage, cos I can't see an easy way X # to pass throught $ENV{"ENV"} without it being too late. (We only have X # one person who has ksh as a login shell anyway...) X # Oh, yeah.. we are assuming that if it's bourne shell here, then it's X # bourne shell there. Much more important than this is that it it ISNT X # bourne shell here, it better not be bourne shell there. X # X if ($RSHELL =~ m#/(k)?sh#) { push(@VARS,"PATH"); } X} X# X# Validate $PWD routine... X# Xsub validate_pwd { X local(@pwdstats, @dotstats); X local($pwd) = $_[0]; X X unless (defined($pwd)) { return undef; } ; X unless (@dotstats = stat(".")) { return undef; } ; X unless (@pwdstats = stat($pwd)) { return undef; } ; X if (($pwdstats[$ST_DEV] != $dotstats[$ST_DEV]) || X ($pwdstats[$ST_INO] != $dotstats[$ST_INO])) { return undef; } ; X $pwd; X} X# X# Try and find a nice, valid, pwd. X# XPRESENT: { X if ($PWD = $ENV{"PWD"}) { X $FOOPWD = $PWD ; X $FOOPWD =~ s#(/tmp_mnt|/export)?/(.*)#/$2# ; X $PWD = &validate_pwd($FOOPWD) || &validate_pwd($PWD) ; X }; X unless ($PWD) { X chop($PWD = `pwd`) ; X $FOOPWD = $PWD ; X $FOOPWD =~ s#(/tmp_mnt|/export)?/(.*)#/$2# ; X $PWD = &validate_pwd($FOOPWD) || &validate_pwd($PWD) || $HOME; X } X} X$PWD =~ s#(.*)#\'$1\'# ; X# X# Try to find somewhere nice to live on the other side. X# Xunless ($OffSite) { X unshift(@STUFF,"test","-d",$PWD,"&&","cd",$PWD,";"); X} X# X# Start building the full command. X# Xforeach $var (@VARS) { X ($val = $ENV{$var}) && X unshift(@STUFF,"setenv","$var","\'"."$val"."\'",";") ; X} X# X# Some commands to do on the other side... X# Xunshift(@STUFF,"set","nonomatch",";"); # only if we are using csh. X# X# Build the remote command. X# X$REMOTE=("(umask 077 ; ((".join(" ",@STUFF,@ARGV).")</dev/null >&$LOGF &))") ; X$REMOTE =~ s#\"#\\\"#g ; X$REMOTE = "\"" . $REMOTE . "\"" ; X# X# Build the arg list for the exec. X# X@COMM=($RSH,@LUser,"$MACH","csh","-fc",$REMOTE) ; X# X# Do it! X# Xif ($debug) { X print "@COMM\n" ; X} else { X exec @COMM ; X} X# X# Rsh doesn't return any indication of how it went over X# on the other side, but that's OK, cos we aint going to X# wait around to see what happened. X# Xexit 0 ; X# X# tHe ENd END_OF_FILE if test 9028 -ne `wc -c <'rx.pl'`; then echo shar: \"'rx.pl'\" unpacked with wrong size! fi chmod +x 'rx.pl' # end of 'rx.pl' fi echo shar: End of archive 1 \(of 1\). cp /dev/null ark1isdone MISSING="" for I in 1 ; do if test ! -f ark${I}isdone ; then MISSING="${MISSING} ${I}" fi done if test "${MISSING}" = "" ; then echo You have the archive. rm -f ark[1-9]isdone else echo You still need to unpack the following archives: echo " " ${MISSING} fi ## End of shell archive. exit 0
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Perhaps all of us hackers have become (ICK) PROFESSIONALS? I have noticed my and my associates progression from hackers to computer professionals. It is rather distasteful. It occurs when a series of things happen: 1) one's ego outgrows one's talent/knowledge 2) one's financial situation takes precedence 3) A change in priorities (esp. family) possibly leading to 2) 4) the hacker's attitude makes the shift from "fun" to "work" 5) one's vocation burns away the creativity needed for "the hobby" or the biggest killer (IMO) 6) one's dreams are (sadly) shattered on the hard rocks of society's version of reality. Without the dream the motivation dies, without the motivation the effort seems useless. Another set of problems stems from our children. While most of us remember when there were several completely different computer systems, our children are growing up with just a few choices (MSDOS/Mac/Amiga) and do not enjoy the diversity we did. I remember the great computer fallout of the early eighties vividly as I was forced to stop using skills developed for systems that were now dead. The diversity of systems before then allowed for widely divergent paradigms. That period forced hackers to continually learn new systems in the attempt to keep up. Not to mention that if a program was needed we were forced (in most situations) to write it ourselves as a commercial offering was just not available. Now our children are being taught the "user" mentality. As the number of us "old-timers" dwindle we are not being replaced by the next generation. Kendall. -- Kendall Sears krsear02@ulkyvx.louisville.edu Programmer /// Child Development Unit /// Amiga Department of Pediatrics \\\/// Currently running AmigaOS 3.0 University of Louisville \XX/ And Supporting Unix Sys V Rev 4.
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There are several CRT-to-film writers around. Agfa has some, they also might be called Matrix?, and I am pretty sure other companies sell the same equipment. You might want to talk to any company in your area that does presentation slides or offers graphics services. They should have those machines and they might point you to a local vendor. From there on it's all a question of money. They units are essentially high res CRTs plus a filter wheel plus a 35mm camera and a computer hook-up. Reiner
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I have uploaded the most recent Windows drivers for the Cirrus GD5426 chip based display cards to the uploads directory at ftp.cica.indiana.edu (file is 5426dr13.zip). They're very recent, I downloaded them from the Cirrus BBS (570-226-2365) last night. If you are unable to get them there, email me and maybe I can upload them to some other sites as well. I have a local bus based card (VL24 Bitblaster from Micron) but I think the drivers work with ISA cards (or at least includes drivers for them). I found the new drivers to be a significant improvement over the 1.2 version, improving my graphic winmarks (v3.11) by about 2 million (7.77 to 9.88) although this could be the result of intentional benchmark cheating on Cirrus's part but I don't think so. From Steve Gibson's (columnist for Info World) graphic card comparisons (also found at the cica ftp site under the name winadv.zip) I extracted the following for the sake of comparison: Wintach Winbn3.11 Word Sprsht Cad Paint Overall Steve's system: 486/33 VLB: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro 9.33 10.34 20.78 8.28 14.90 13.58 my system - 486sx/33 VLB: VL24 Bitblaster 9.88 8.65 11.71 18.84 15.40 13.65 Its no Viper, but I think its a hell of a deal at about a third of the cost of the ATI card and when compared to the other cards included in Gibson's review. Micron system owner's, I would be interested to hear your opinions on the DTC 2270VL local bus disk controller. My system came with a Maxtor 7120 drive (120 MB) and at first was only giving me disk winmarks of about 16 Kb/s, I am now at 22 Kb/s. Is this about as good as it gets? I can't get a Norton's sysinfo disk reading because the contoller intercepts the calls, at least that was what the program said.
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Nanao: call 1-800-800-5202. Ask for a catalog.
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Is there an easy (ie via shell commands) way to tell what the DISPLAY environment variable is for any given client process? Sometimes I can get what I want by typing ps -axe if: a. the client was invoked with a -display argument or b. DISPLAY is one of the first few variables defined in the environment (actually I've never seen b. but it's there to illustrate the type of thing I'm looking for) Ultimately I wish to determine the number of displays that are simultaneously running a given X application. my system: SunOS 4.1.2 sun4c thanks for any help,
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