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kreutzer yes he did
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krones did mr. mccarrell say he recently saw mr. fisher
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he told me that this information changed later that mavrick said he was with grant and there was a fight in humboldt county
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he was asked to not come back on lee s property i believe in may 2019 of this year
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he said previously he had some concerns about mr. whitaker who he ...
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he did
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krones did he say that he had any problems with either mr. whitaker or mr. fisher
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krones what did he lee say to you about how he knew grant and mavrick
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the iphone was locked the sheriff s office doesn t have the technology to bypass apple s operating system security
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kreutzer no unfortunately i couldn t.
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krones did you figure out who owned the phone
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kreutzer i found it in the glove compartment
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krones where did you find the cellphone
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i can t quote him exactly but i got the impression that he had a hot temper
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someone told me there was one
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he told me the fight became very physical and that s how mavrick got the cut from the incident
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kreutzer on his right hand on his pinky finger
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you will see a hill behind it
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go to the blue gate and follow the road to the blue gate but don t go through it
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then go to the fork in the road to lee s ranch
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go past the yellow gate
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the text said first open the gate when you go in lee s ranch
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kreutzer no
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krones was mavrick still around at that time
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kreutzer he was informed on saturday morning
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krones did he say when he got this information
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krones where was the cut
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kreutzer yes that s right
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kreutzer he said he did not go with him to help him with the atv
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krones did mccarrell say whether he went with mavrick to help with the atv
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kreutzer he told him that he wanted the atv to drive to the car and clean it up for some unknown reason
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krones did mavrick tell mccarrell why he wanted to borrow the atv
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kreutzer i believe he borrowed the atv on friday afternoon
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as far as i understand mr. mccarrell got a text from mavrick on where grant s body was left behind but that he was not informed until saturday morning when mavrick had already left
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kreutzer oh yes thank you
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did he tell him this
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krones did mavrick tell mccarrell whether grant was dead or alive
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krones you said you got information from mavrick on where grant s body was left behind
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look at the blue gate go up the hill and you will see branches on the floor
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kreutzer that time i was focused on getting a cellphone
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besgrove i don t know
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on monday mavrick was detained in mexico
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she lives there and grant is from illinois as well
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on that same day grant s grandmother pam thierry filed a mission person s report in tazewell county illinois
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on saturday, august 24 mavrick made his way down to mexico on a greyhound bus
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they went to a police station to report that mavrick was stabbed at humboldt county but it seems like nothing happened afterwards
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mavrick met with a friend of his named michael fucci
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after this mavrick left lee s ranch by driving the impala to a site near dollar general in clearlake oaks where he abandoned the car
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mavrick then apparently removed grant s body from the car placed it on the atv drove it to a remote site and left it there
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on friday, august 23 mavrick asked lee to borrow his atv so he could clean out the car
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he was brought over to a jail in san diego
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that was mavrick s main statement of self defense by accusing grant of trying to stab him which was the reason why he hit grant with a rock
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mavrick told lee that he got the cut from repairing the car
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mavrick had a cut on his right hand on his pinky finger
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the body was apparently in the vehicle without lee s knowledge
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he parked the impala on lee s ranch and told him that he would do repairs on the car
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mavrick allegedly used a rock to kill grant then wrapped his body in a sleeping bag and placed it in a 2011 chevrolet impala that grant borrowed from his grandmother pam theirry then drove to a large ranch owned by lee mccarrell in lake county
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grant and mavrick were camping out at lot 80 in a tent
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the murder was on tuesday, august 20 in the early morning at richardson grove state park in humboldt county
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i will give you a summary and then show you clips of the testimony
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both are from the lake county sheriff s office
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but later on he said the cut was from grant trying to stab him
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that was not a part of my investigation
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detective kreutzer flew there to do his first interview with him
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it was filmed
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feimer did the blood on the knife get tested
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besgrove yes a small amount
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feimer did the knife have blood on it
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besgrove three to four inches
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feimer how long was the blade
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besgrove it was metallic in color similar to what you would find in a kitchen
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feimer can you describe what the knife looked like
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besgrove on the door compartment on the driver s seat
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feimer where exactly did you find the knife
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the next day on tuesday, august 27 mavrick was extradited to lake county and kreutzer did a second interview with mavrick
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besgrove yes
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i did find a california id card for grant and papers with his name on it
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besgrove yes
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krones did you find any kind of id belonging to grant
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i also saw maggots
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besgrove i saw that on the rear seat s floor there was decomposing blood and wet blood
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besgroves i noticed a strong scent of a dead person inside
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i saw blood on the front seat and also on the console and the back seat as well
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i also saw live flies flying around
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besgroves i saw many dead flies on the car dashboard
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feimer did you find a knife in the car
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keep on driving until you see a hill on the right side
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you have to use the 4x4
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the body is 10 meters on the left side
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kreutzer i can t remember if there was anything different at this point however we had an unique opportunity during the second interview we were able to film our session
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krones did he say anything else about what was different from his first statements in southern california
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kreutzer he explained that the rocks were at the four corners but inside of the tent
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krones what was his response in the second interview
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kreutzer yes
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krones did he say anything about where the rocks were in the tent
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he confirmed that he had texts with scotty jackson and communication with his girlfriend emily
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kreutzer yes
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krones did mavrick say he had conversations with other people while in mexico by texting or other social media
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krones did he say anything about how he felt about his emotions after the first rock strike
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he said during the interview that he knew there were prior instances of some innocent people going to jail and he was concerned that it would happen to him
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