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something up, I came back, and the wind had just shifted, it had come up, and our last moments were absolutely freezing.
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With texting you can't, you really gotta do it. So I come home with a soft scrub and I'm like, honey, what's up? She's like,
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We were like, we've always defined ourselves by New York. And L.A. was just a place where we'd go and we'd stay.
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with her and her giant dog that she'd found in Brooklyn.
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comic book, you know, whatever it happens to be that is something that I always do
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screen test and she said, okay, you can, you can cast them. Nice. Yeah.
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My wife is an incredibly generous, altruistic, compassionate person that grew up, how can I put this, not doing a lot of housework.
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a TV show and part of what makes pushes you to that decision is you start to read things and you go well that's a great part but I don't know if I really want to be
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idea that I might have had some, stuck some money in my shoes, in my socks, in my shoes or whatever. So they asked me to take off my shoes. So I took off.
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And they call me up because I was the guy that put him in jail. And they bring me out of this kind of forced retirement that I've been in for eight years.
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There are a lot of actors that come through partly because I end up killing a lot of
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with her and her giant dog that she'd found in Brooklyn.
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I said, well, yeah, in fact, it is. He's like, take the treat.
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I was coming home to see her for the first time
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And get out of this room. I said, wait a second, wait a second, wait a second. This is my...
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This is not your room. This is Soce's room. I want you to step...
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But I do think that it's been a, that's been a challenge.
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which everybody can do it's not a celebrity thing it's called character breakfast and have you ever
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And they're not going to hurt you, unless you're a small dog or a cat, you'll be fine.
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You know, a principal character that could work alongside Ernie and Bert and Big Bird and Oscar and Cookie Monster and Grover. So I was one of those puppeteers that was still trying to get that, you know, principal.
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and the great space coaster and then captain kangaroo was uh was
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And I was like, okay, well, I'll get through these two and try to, you know, because I want to shine. I still haven't had, I still didn't have a.
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I mean, I didn't go to the extremes as far as that with Elmo. I just kept that.
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And I was like, okay, well, I'll get through these two and try to, you know, because I want to shine. I still haven't had, I still didn't have a.
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and the great space coaster and then captain kangaroo was uh was
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And then of course, lo and behold, the Tickle Me Elmo doll. I realized when research was telling me. Research had told me that Elmo is
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So, I got through it and what I did is after the season was over, I went and hung out with my mom with the daycare kids and just watched them.
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And then from there, I started going to hobby shops. My mom would take me to hobby shops, and we'd buy fake fur and felt.
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Just the tilt of the head and stuff like that one thing that
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but you know I saw the reason why one of the main reason why is is because that was his escapism from the business part of it you know he could still get down and dirty and laugh and be silly plus that's the beginnings of what he did I mean he was a puppeteer you know the success of it is great because of his talen...
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you know, version of. So I actually built a puppet called Barty that was based on
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camera most of the time. If not that, we'll be behind a crate so that if Bob comes in with something that we need to see on the floor, you don't see the puppeteer.
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I was just mimicking. I was just, you know, trying to build something that I saw from Sesame.
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youngest, you know, of all the characters and so the writers started picking up on it and started writing and then research started looking into it.
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And I remember finding this orange blanket and making up, you know, the head out of this orange blanket. And I got my grandmother's old wig, which was this gray peppered.
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You know whatever I could find to build a puppet and then I would utilize some of our clothes Even that you know was the my mind was either gonna throw away or what have you
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with some focus on what I wanted to do and it really worked I mean there was a
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Like I said, he really didn't know, but he got into it, and he had a great time, had a great, great time. What happened is he got to.
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I just think, again, it's all about, you know, watching my mom's daycare kids. I mean, it's that...
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Cleveland. And of course, we got up for the first flight out. We had a game on Wednesday night in New
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at one time. We were in the middle of shooting. Had like a scene in the morning. We had this whole sound stage of 50 dancers playing
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30 people would show up and like you always dream of being able to sell out arenas across the world and it's yeah it's even more sweet going from that
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was back then when we flew commercial, we didn't fly private, we played in a Tuesday night game.
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Nothing. So, I mean, we don't really find out anything in advance anyway, which I think is cool. You know, it's like we get the script a week before we start.
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How do they do it? I think they have to... I don't really know.
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lot of guys injured. Dwight couldn't do back-to-back practices and was not going to be able to do back-to-back games until December. James had sprained his ankle in the summer, hardened, came in overweight, and we just weren't playing very well. And I told our guys at the end of training camp, I said, hey, we're a m...
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actually enjoy doing it in school and so she really made me comfortable.
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Nothing. So, I mean, we don't really find out anything in advance anyway, which I think is cool. You know, it's like we get the script a week before we start.
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30 people would show up and like you always dream of being able to sell out arenas across the world and it's yeah it's even more sweet going from that
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in Lehigh and put in this tour and like Ryan just kind of asked us questions and let us do our interpretation of what we thought they character because none of it was scripted so it was it was
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in Lehigh and put in this tour and like Ryan just kind of asked us questions and let us do our interpretation of what we thought they character because none of it was scripted so it was it was
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I mean, I think we feel like them, which is cool. It kind of puts the characters and the fans in the same playing field for the first time, and people can see that. And it's not just kids, it's adults who really relate to the show, and it's as fun for us to watch as I think it is for fans to watch.
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They didn't know. They didn't see the rehearsal or anything. They're like, okay, well, don't laugh, don't make any facial expressions.
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with class and so whatever they feel is right
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Snow storm hits Cleveland. We're at the airport at 7 in the morning. Flights cancel at 7. It's canceled at 8. It's canceled at 9. It's canceled at 10. It's canceled at 11. We finally leave about 1.30 or 2 in the afternoon. We fly up to New Jersey. Now the storm has kind of moved into New Jersey. And the bus driver...
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that though? Coming back now, because we've been out of it for like six months,
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that they identify with and you go back to film the season and you kind of have them with you knowing that what you're doing is not just think oh we're entertaining people
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these things happening but never in this way because this is really in this form never happened before so it's straight yeah it's it's really unique and to be able to do it with all of our
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And I was like, because some people got confused because we had such a long break, a gap in between. I'm like, maybe they think next season is our third season. And then I read it on like some blog a few minutes later, I was like, then I called Ryan Murphy. I'm like, where did you hear that? I'm like, somebody tw...
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I guess I would say to them that it's not, this isn't Little House on the Prairie. It's not 1828 anymore. I don't think I'm the first guy to demystify.
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And that's why I couldn't understand why people would be so up in arms about a movie that made anyone think about their own Religion or their own faith because nobody does that no movies make you do that anymore movies are
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I am my wife sleeps in so I wake up usually by myself everyone sleeps in and I'm awake and baked
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and whatnot. When it first got into the festival, then she was like, oh, well, is this something?
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Because it was a Disney movie initially. This is my feeling. The film was a Miramax movie. By virtue of that, it was a Disney film.
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I am my wife sleeps in so I wake up usually by myself everyone sleeps in and I'm awake and baked
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Film Center over the course of this week and that's wonderful art house cinema in Manhattan down
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Let me consider this film school. Maybe one day I'll be able to pay this debt off. And if I do, then I can think about maybe making another movie. So I was sitting there going, okay, once I pay off my debt,
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named Bethany. She's another. Salma Hayek plays a muse. Serendipity, she's another. Two characters we've used a lot in our other pictures, Jay and Silent Bob.
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So that you would try to pack that screening with as many like potential
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I tried to contact Eisner, he says, when I heard about this movie because I wanted a meeting with him and I wanted him to show me the script and he wouldn't contact me. It's just like, well, why not call me? I'm the author. You know what I mean? I'm accessible. I'm New Jersey. I'm not doing anything. You could f...
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Let me consider this film school. Maybe one day I'll be able to pay this debt off. And if I do, then I can think about maybe making another movie. So I was sitting there going, okay, once I pay off my debt,
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He was very cool about it. He was like, look man, the comics, they're gone, I can replace them, I'll go hunting for new ones. He's going, me and the wife are great, me and the kids are great, that's all that matters and stuff. So it worked.
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that allows them to get back into heaven. But if they do it, what they don't realize, it will end existence.
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Always going after Disney, and we were just the ripe, luscious opportunity for them to go after Disney that week. We were kind of the target.
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to pooch my project. I guess people liked what we had done, so they kind of wanted to get ahead of themselves and read the script. So to me, the Catholic League's real outrage about the movie was not an outrage at all. It was a very well-designed publicity.
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I tried to contact Eisner, he says, when I heard about this movie because I wanted a meeting with him and I wanted him to show me the script and he wouldn't contact me. It's just like, well, why not call me? I'm the author. You know what I mean? I'm accessible. I'm New Jersey. I'm not doing anything. You could f...
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feel that disney attacks catholics constantly whether it's with nothing sacred the tv show that was on abc a little while
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she'd been so terrified of dying her whole life, right? I said, what was it? And she goes,
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And she don't even see it coming, man, which makes me rethink that private school.
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You know, it just didn't seem that dangerous to me because I was probably that naive at the time. But to them, looking back, no, I can understand why they'd be little.
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I usually have one writer, Uncle Cracker was my guy for a lot of years and now it's my guitar player Marlon. I'm always open to...
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Jazz and rhythm and blues music and take that and still incorporate it with something that's new and fresh today to put it
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judge things and be a little more open-minded about it which has closed my mind in a lot of ways to things like I wouldn't sit here and sell to you the idea of you know gangster music and stuff like that as much as
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time but we didn't know what where the break was going to come we knew because once people got to hear it that was it you know it was like crack
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In some weird sense, I got to think that that's up there, that this word is just so powerful and so big. And then I wanted to put something as powerful and as big with it from my experiences, from where I come from and what I see going on in my country.
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I've made the record company a lot more money, yes. I've made myself a couple extra dollars, but I don't think anybody out there wants their money back that doesn't like the album, you know, front to end.
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I wouldn't say it is. It was for me, but I wouldn't try to sell that and I'm not.
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like you know I could be up in hills in Hollywood or anywhere I want in the world and I've worked hard and save some money and now when I look back on it I'm like no I did the right thing because I look at my son and I realized that a lot of that the community that he's from that's the only place that really matters...
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They've got to stop dicking around with all that garbage and just let better music come to the forefront.
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sting about it in London. He's like, you know, if I don't have any part of that business ever again, it just ruins it for artists and for music, and, you know, I'm just hoping to say something about it to maybe some execs are watching somewhere where it's like, just calm down, you know, it's not all about your ar...
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was when I signed with Atlantic Records. That was when I was 18, when I was 27 years old and got a check and started making money. And the following year, made tons of money. And the next year made more money than ever.
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times i would get stopped by the police when i was you know there's several times when i was kicked out of the house or moved out and i was
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I wouldn't say it is. It was for me, but I wouldn't try to sell that and I'm not.
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I wouldn't say it is. It was for me, but I wouldn't try to sell that and I'm not.
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out of you know it just takes it from there and then goes through and touches on so many different things but then at the end i think it comes back to you know somewhere you gotta
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It was just, you know, when they used to send me the old 10 records for a penny. Yeah. Oh, God, we were on that deal every day. I used to get them mailed under names like...
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And just things you believe in everyday goodness in life and all those things don't have to be you know white and black There can be a middle ground somewhere. You know I think that's why I like
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Um, I don't know about on stage. I think it's, you know, the offstage antics that get captured by the cameras and and I don't really run from them. I'm pretty whatever. I'm not gonna let a camera ruin my, you know, rain on my parade.
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of stupid because if my memory serves me correctly, and I asked Cracker, whose memory is very well, is that was.
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kind of writing on the go. They can take a story down a direction, and things start to become obvious. And then they can make a real right or left turn on you. And I think that's one of the staples of 24, and I think that's something that we very consciously tried to do with this season. And so I hope it deliver...
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