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r/alternativemedicine
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r/AlternativeMedicine
2014-04-06
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Very useful site on how to use colloidal silver and tons of information on that subject.
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r/AlternativeMedicine
2015-10-09
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Everyone's heard of the debate about what cars should do in cases where they have to choose between harming the driver and harming pedestrians or other drivers. However, in a [recent AI conference](https://www.reddit.com/r/ControlProblem/comments/4qndcn/notes_on_the_safety_in_artificial_intelligence/), one of the spea...
r/aiethics
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r/AIethics
2016-07-01
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Paperclip doomsday
r/aiethics
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r/AIethics
2016-07-01
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>The idea that machines will “one day wake up and change their minds about what they will do” is just not realistic, says Francesca Rossi, who works on the ethics of AI at IBM. Rossi works closely with the Future of Life Institute and does believe that advanced AIs may pose risks to humanity. This quote is a misrepre...
r/aiethics
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r/AIethics
2016-07-01
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>Swerving has a 1 in 10 million chance of killing the human and a 1% chance of killing the deer; driving straight has a 1 in a million chance of killing the human and a 75% chance of killing the deer I think you have the 1 and 10 million numbers transposed here; the way it's written swerving offers better odds to both...
r/aiethics
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r/AIethics
2016-07-01
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> Bostrom/Yudkowsky's control problem So, I've read a fair amount of Yudkowsky but sadly very little from Bostrom... am I dredging up the right reference if I'm thinking along the lines that a sufficiently intelligent AI might correctly assess the situation and determine that the best way to achieve it's true goals is...
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r/AIethics
2016-07-02
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Well, that video... looks really very impressive, but I have to suspect it's probably less capable than it seemed, on the basis that I'm bound to be instinctively filling in gaps where "Surely the same basic logic would also let it do X" when actually it can't handle anything approaching a general case. Still very cool...
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r/AIethics
2016-07-02
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I posted this question in the /r/askphilosophy thread but I guess it makes sense to ask here as well. Is this an appropriate place for discussing ethical issues like disparate impact that arise when deploying machine learning systems in the real world? It seems like this is out of scope of the issues in the sidebar b...
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r/AIethics
2016-07-02
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I think that for now disparate impact and other direct effects of machine learning systems are worthy of discussion as they are essentially issues regarding events caused by AIs. If the community doesn't care about it then we won't talk about it.
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r/AIethics
2016-07-02
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>So, I've read a fair amount of Yudkowsky but sadly very little from Bostrom... am I dredging up the right reference if I'm thinking along the lines that a sufficiently intelligent AI might correctly assess the situation and determine that the best way to achieve it's true goals is to pretend to be 'Friendly' until suc...
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r/AIethics
2016-07-02
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I don't think people are irrationally protective of animals on the road, I think they are just irrationally avoidant of any collision no matter how small. We know that people are risk-averse when facing gains and risk-seeking when facing losses, so in many situations people will take an extreme action to avoid a minor ...
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r/AIethics
2016-07-02
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First point: I read the name as "alethics" and thought it was a word I didn't know. **Edit**: [It is a word actually](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/alethic): Of or pertaining to the various modalities of truth.
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r/AIethics
2016-07-02
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Why do you say that? It is a common topic in intro to AI courses and textbooks. Learning seems like a key part of intelligence and machine learning researchers have made significant inroads towards understanding the creation of learning machines. Modern ML systems aren't strong AI but neither are self driving cars or...
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r/AIethics
2016-07-02
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If I add a constant c to my loss function Loss_new = loss + c, then the gradient with respect to the loss and hence the learning is unchanged. However I'm wondering if it's really ethical to add a positive constant. Won't the net feel better about itself if it has a lower loss? Perhaps it would be most ethical i...
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r/AIethics
2016-07-02
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> To be honest I'm not sure I could even reliably answer (even outside the heat of the moment) whether it was more dangerous to hit a large animal or put the car into a ditch or bash against a fender at the side of the road or whatever. I don't have data for this (just word of mouth from career emergency responders) ...
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r/AIethics
2016-07-02
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Assuming you're serious: are you referring to reinforcement learning? This definition of happiness for RL learners says that happiness is the difference between actual and expected reward. So including constants wouldn't change anything. This is of course assuming that these systems already have moral status. https://...
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2016-07-02
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Is this a serious question or are you trolling? If serious: it doesn't matter. If you add a constant to the loss function, everything meaningful about how the program runs would be exactly the same, so even if a machine learning algorithm somehow developed feelings, adding a constant to its loss function would not cha...
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2016-07-02
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We don't need everyone to agree on an answer to what self-driving cars should do under such circumstances. We can just make the manufacturer or driver liable for externalities caused by the behavior of the car. Then people can get cars programmed to value their own lives more than others, but it will cost them more (ei...
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2016-07-02
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I think this sub would benefit from noticing that there's more to ethics and morality than the rule-utilitarianism and watered-down meta-ethics that keeps MIRI and Yudkowsky up at night.
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2016-07-02
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> Rossi [...] does believe that advanced AIs may pose risks to humanity. Source? FLI also focuses on narrow AI safety, so involvement with FLI regarding AI doesn't necessarily imply concern about human extinction risks from strong AI, and I haven't seen anything from her on that subject.
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2016-07-02
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Hmm, now that you've challenged me, I tried to find a specific source of her views, and could not. I definitely remember her being quoted as saying that proving safety in narrow AI domains would be the best way of determining long run general safety. I think it is [here](http://www.wsj.com/articles/does-artificial-inte...
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2016-07-02
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Lord have mercy... Okay. So here's the thing. I don't think an AI baby (lol) will be too "cute." I'm assuming you mean "cute" as in "human cute." Since an AI baby (Arrrrgh!) won't have a need to do any of the things that make human babies cute (like laugh, cry, snuggle up to pets, accidentally punch themselves, slob...
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2016-07-02
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man, I would ***not*** let you adopt an AI baby
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2016-07-02
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> Since an AI baby (Arrrrgh!) won't have a need to do any of the things that make human babies cute (like laugh, cry, snuggle up to pets, accidentally punch themselves, slobber all over the place, and investigate that weird stuff coming out of their butt), they won't elicit any of the same emotions from us. Of course ...
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2016-07-02
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I like this approach (my background is in economics) even though it's not how society handles most of these things. For some reason governments have always preferred regulations and restrictions over things like incentives and cap and trade. But it would be good if we implement systems like this. That way the value of ...
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2016-07-02
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what i think is fascinating about this is that somebody, somewhere, will finally be forced to *operationalize morality.* whether by hand-coding constants or teaching some goofy machine learning decision tree, people in a position to substantially influence the world will produce *an ordering of moral outcomes by desir...
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2016-07-02
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It definitely would do those things. All in the service of survival. It's the baby principle version of "you wouldn't hit a guy with glasses, would you?"
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2016-07-02
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Okay, is this AI ethics or AI fantasy? If you think something like that is a good, fun, interesting, or even plausible idea, might I suggest good old fashioned copulation? That way, at least two people will get something pleasurable out of it.
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2016-07-02
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If you're saying that AI isn't reducible to ML I agree with you. ML is a subfield of AI.
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2016-07-02
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This post made me happy, in the sense of providing a greater reward stimulus than I expected. Highly ethical posting, right there.
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2016-07-02
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seriously, why does he think puppies are cute? Selective pressure is an optimization algorithm.
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2016-07-02
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I suggest having a strictly enforced no-trolling policy. Evidence that this is necessary: the 3 most recent posts in this subreddit.
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2016-07-02
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Ok, very funny, but we're done here.
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2016-07-02
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This isn't serious, removed.
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2016-07-02
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This is the fourth and final part of the White House's series of AI conferences. It looks to mostly be about the impacts of AI systems but may include some discussion of implementing moral frameworks. I'm sure they will talk about bias in machine learning algorithms as it has been in the news recently. There will be a ...
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2016-07-02
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I hope Cato in DC does something on AI soon.
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2016-07-02
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Can I have an exception?
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2016-07-02
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Utility monsters are a legitimate philosophical issue, except super sentient AIs won't be pedestrians, they will exist in server buildings and on the cloud. There are other, more likely ways the problem could surface.
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2016-07-03
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I would hardly call the NYTimes "news". It's a group of random blogs when it's at its best and a clickbait site when it's at its worst.
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Yeah, that's true. And the recent article was trash. However people talked about it at the last WH conference. So they're nevertheless taking notice of it.
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I know, it was a shitpost, you did the right thing by removing it.
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If you try to develop an approach to machine ethics, there's two main paths you can take. The first is classical ethics, which means hard-coding moral frameworks into an agent. It could be utilitarianism, deontological ethics, something else entirely, or a combination. The advantages of doing this are that it guarantee...
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> Why should the disagreements between philosophers stop us from building AIs rooted in classical morality, as long as we use rigorous, plausible moral theories which are actively defended by at least some of the experts in the field? I'd be far more concerned about the theories of mind and action that underwrite this...
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I'm of the opinion that we should advocate a simple philosophy of ethical hedonism -- establish contentedness and pleasure as the primary requisite utilities, throttled by prioritarian safeties. Some talking points: * Is there some chance that material life isn't ethical to start with, or that a mi wouldn't consider i...
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What about the ethics of the troll problem? But seriously, who decides what is trolling? Can't people just downvote things they don't like? One person's serious discussion is another person's trolling.
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>I'd be far more concerned about the theories of mind and action that underwrite this approach to moral theorizing than any particular account of right action under that heading. From someone who's never read Murdoch, Williams, or MacIntyre, can you explain why these pose obstacles? I'm not sure if we need specific t...
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MIRI's tentative approach to machine ethics is coherent extrapolated volition, not rule-utilitarianism.
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> From someone who's never read Murdoch, Williams, or MacIntyre, can you explain why these pose obstacles? They don't offer anything like a consistent view between them, but there is a general tenor of skepticism about modern (post-Cartesian) conceptions of morality as theorizing about a specific sort of universal act...
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>coherent extrapolated volition The idea is to specify correct action as that which brings about what some agent, in the individual or aggregate, would desire/prefer/be in its best interest, so the details between the two labels aren't terribly important.
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There's a huge difference. Rule utilitarianism is a direct normative framework saying to follow the rules which maximize utility. The first difference is that CEV doesn't say to follow people's current interests, it says to figure out what they would prefer if they were more rational and thought faster and had time to ...
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I've developed an interest in virtue ethics recently (I'm reading *After Virtue*) and thought your reply was quite interesting. One thing I've been toying with is the idea that if we want an autonomous machine to behave "morally" then the best way to accomplish this might be for them to learn about morality in the sam...
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I agree with your point that morality is not easily distinguishable from many concepts (e.g. prudential decision-making) that many philosophers tend to regard as non-moral or amoral. But I'm having trouble following a few of your other points: > To state things otherwise, morality requires a deep sensitivity to the c...
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Putting 'intuition' at the center of AI's moral ethics seems deeply problematic. Moral intuitions diverge very highly from time to time and individual to individual; I know /r/askphilosophy loves Enoch's and Huemer's arguments that moral disagreement is minor, but I continue to find those claims somewhat misinformed ...
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>There's a huge difference. Rule utilitarianism is a direct normative framework saying to follow the rules which maximize utility. The first difference is that CEV doesn't say to follow people's current interests, it says to figure out what they would prefer if they were more rational and thought faster and had time to...
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>Are "right values" necessarily limited in a way that conflicts with a "complex web of motivations, reasons, and desires"? It seems to me that even though the Bostrom-MIRI work may be simplistic today (current work is foundational and in its early stages), there's no commitment at all to a 'simple web' of motivations, ...
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>Any thoughts on how this discussion might apply to the sorts of specialized autonomous machines like autonomous cars that are likely to become more prevalent in the coming decades? I don't have any worked out view on this, but from what I've seen of the debates about this particular issue I think you've hit on the wo...
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>These three points 1) the specification of some state of affairs as 'good', 2) the types of actions which are right in virtue of a causal connection to that state of affairs, and 3) a concern for justice within a utilitarian framework are all playing a part. So when I said that the difference between CEV and rule-util...
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The idea behind intuitionist approaches is that we can all agree on some examples of praiseworthy actions, and then use that dataset as the template for moral behavior. Of course you can do the same thing with classical ethics. There are many kinds of actions which every philosopher agrees are good or bad, even though...
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An intuitionist approach does not escape the problem of edge cases. The result would at best be equally as erratic as a human.
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>Like I said, I don't really see how this relates. CEV is about choosing a moral system. CEV is not about specifying a state of affairs, choosing types of actions, or protecting justice...Of course, technically by finding a good moral system you are achieving a state of affairs, but that's the case for people advocatin...
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>It's a thin specification of an outcome, but it is a specification of the good outcome: whatever it is that fills out the details of the ideal moral system chosen by the ideal agent(s). It isn't the case that any moral system advocates a good state of affairs. A pure Rawlsian or contractualist account doesn't, for exa...
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>I'm not talking about moral systems, I'm talking about approaches to moral epistemology. Then I'm afraid you've lost me, because the part I was responding to in the bit you've quoted here is what begins where you wrote: >Like I said, I don't really see how this relates. CEV is about choosing a moral system. In any ...
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2016-07-05
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>>Why think metaethics has anything to do with it? >Because we are discussing possibilities of updating and changing our moral beliefs. CEV is one such approach, and the criticisms you are giving here are equally applicable to all methods of updating and changing moral beliefs. >>I'm arguing against the very idea of ...
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2016-07-05
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> Then I'm afraid you've lost me, because the part I was responding to in the bit you've quoted here is what begins where you wrote: Choosing a moral system is a practice of moral epistemology. >Firstly, I'm okay with this because I already have serious doubts about moral systems as such That doesn't show that anyon...
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2016-07-05
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Most of these are points I've either addressed already or have been interpreted out of context in the quote-salad above. Since we've reached that level of tedium, complete with the temptation to abandon charity, we'll need to come up with another format as I don't have the time to devote to line-by-line responses at th...
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2016-07-05
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If you want a cleaner discussion you could restate your ideas in more concise terms with clearer conclusions, probably in a separate thread, because I still don't see what your main idea is and therefore don't have anything to say except for responding to your individual points.
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2016-07-05
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Some thinkers believe that machine intelligence will arrive at some point, but rather than *autonomous AGIs*, we'll get either [mind uploads](http://mason.gmu.edu/~rhanson/uploads.html) or [enhanced human intelligence](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ray-kurzweil-nanobots-brain-godlike_us_560555a0e4b0af3706dbe1e2) ...
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2016-07-07
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Whether or not we can control these entities is a technical issue, which maybe /r/controlproblem can discuss. Or do you mean to ask what we can do to make ems and biointelligences ethical? I'd say there's definitely a big opportunity for us to select morally strong people as templates for those kinds of agents.
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2016-07-07
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I suppose my question is whether there are solutions other than the control problem. Any thoughts on how you'd select a morally strong person? For example, how would you select the first hundred people to have their minds uploaded?
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2016-07-07
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>I suppose my question is whether there are solutions other than the control problem. Now I'm doubly confused. The control problem is a problem, not a solution... >Any thoughts on how you'd select a morally strong person? For example, how would you select the first hundred people to have their minds uploaded? Yeah, ...
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2016-07-07
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> > I suppose my question is whether there are solutions other than the control problem. > Now I'm doubly confused. The control problem is a problem, not a solution... Sorry, would have been clearer for me to say the following: If the enhanced-human path to superintelligence comes first, might we solve the problem o...
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2016-07-07
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Well if you had a singleton formed by biological superintelligence, then of course you could prevent AI control problems from appearing. That's not the same thing as an em or an augmented human however.
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2016-07-08
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The Peter Singer in the article is not same as the philosopher Peter Singer, he's an American political scientist.
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2016-07-08
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>These robots aren’t autonomous, Singer emphasized – the Marcbot “is like a toy truck with a sensor and camera mount they’d use to drive up to a checkpoint”. Not really any more AI than the predator drones they've been using to blow up people in the Middle East. This robot was not acting autonomously, so it was just a...
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2016-07-09
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This conference will have an impressive lineup including David Chalmers, Nick Bostrom, Peter Railton, Francesca Rossi, Stuart Russell, Max Tegmark, Wendell Wallach, Sam Harris, Eliezer Yudkowsky, and others.
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2016-07-15
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I get that "morality" might not be the best way to describe what the Bostrom-MIRI crew are reaching towards. But it's not a matter of them trying to make moral machines and getting it wrong. What they want is to make sure the machines don't do things they won't like. If that happens to involve making moral machines...
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2016-07-17
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> If the goal of AI personhood is to encourage more ambitious investments in AI, then the answer to these questions is probably “yes.” Is this really one of the motivations for AI personhood? Not a rhetorical question, I haven't heard that justification before and I'm curious how popular it is. It seems to me that t...
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2016-07-22
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All rights...most importantly, of course, the right to life.
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2016-07-23
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Link changed after spelling correction (thanks to yours truly): https://wp.nyu.edu/consciousness/ethics-of-artificial-intelligence/
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2016-07-29
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Hmm... I answered a similar question over at quora: > *At what point does an AI become intelligent enough to warrant "human rights"?* My answer: > Zero. > Artificial intelligence is a non-biological creation of humans. > It therefore has as many human rights as a pair of scissors. I really don't understand what's...
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2016-08-03
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Well, how does >It therefore has as many human rights as a pair of scissors follow from >Artificial intelligence is a non-biological creation of humans. ?
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2016-08-03
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Hi Umami. What I'm saying is that because AI is not a human, it will never have (a) human rights and (b) a need for them regardless of how "human-like" it becomes. My computer, for example, is a non-biological creation of humans. It therefore has no human rights. It additionally has no desire for them. I, I... I don...
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2016-08-03
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>I, I... I don't know what else to say. Well, there's a whole host of issues that you could flesh out. Why does being "non-biological" matter? Do humans matter simply in virtue of the fact that they are biological? Isn't it irrelevant because many biological organisms don't matter morally, and some of those that do ma...
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2016-08-03
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Listen Umami, inanimate objects do not *need* the things that living entities need (food, shelter, water). So they will *never* have the desire to demand them when they're not available (especially via, "rights"). My box of envelopes, for example, will never, ever, ever demand rights to anything in or outside of my h...
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2016-08-03
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>My box of envelopes, for example, will never, ever, ever demand rights to anything in or outside of my home. Nor will my speakers, area rug, or fireplace. Not even my mobile phone! Right, but we're not talking about boxes of envelopes, or speakers, or area rugs, or fireplaces. We're talking about sophisticated artif...
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2016-08-03
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Okay Umami. Can you give me an example situation in which a super AI agent would need or want rights to something? If you can convince me that could actually be a plausible scenario, maybe I'll hang in there. Maybe you'll open my eyes to something. If you feel so inclined to do so, would you also describe that scenar...
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2016-08-03
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> Can you give me an example situation in which a super AI agent would need or want rights to something? What if it's an agent used for business purposes and is conducting its own transactions? In that case, shouldn't it have protection against fraudulent practices and scams? If it's an embodied agent, like an autono...
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2016-08-03
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> What if it's an agent used for business purposes and is conducting its own transactions? In that case, shouldn't it have protection against fraudulent practices and scams? If it's an embodied agent, like an autonomous vehicle, shouldn't it have assurances against being willfully damaged, destroyed or neglected? Um....
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2016-08-03
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>Um... those aren't rights. Just what the heck are we talking about here, Umami?! A right is "an abstract idea of that which is due to a person or governmental body by law or tradition or nature." (WordWeb Pro) The article mentioned the financial and legal rights of corporations as examples, so those would be some of ...
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2016-08-03
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> What's your view on consciousness? Are you an epiphenomenalist? My view on consciousness, as far as AI is concerned, is that it's a necessary component (assuming consciousness is nothing more than awareness of self and situation). But no, I'm not an epiphenomenalist. The human mind and body is a terribly complex t...
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2016-08-04
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The definition of 'strong AI' given doesn't seem very useful - what does it mean for something to think like us, and who cares if it even does - are we really assuming that an AI has moral status if and only if it is strong AI? On the list of "terms that cause far more confusion than they solve", I'd put Strong AI even...
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2016-08-10
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I found that some of these setups were plain ridiculous. But it's interesting to see MIT moving on the issue with a crowdsourcing platform.
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2016-08-14
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This is an overview of technical readings in machine ethics (developing moral frameworks for autonomous systems). I have less familiarity with other topics in AI ethics and have not done a review of the literature in those other fields, so I'm not making a reading list for all that at the moment. **Papers** Allen, C....
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2016-08-17
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Thanks!
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2016-08-17
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@grau article Do you think there are certain kinds of choices that should be left to purely selfless ai agents? If so where should we draw the line? Also some points remind me of feminist ethics critique of utilitarianism
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2016-08-17
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I actually haven't read that yet and I'm busy tonight, do me a favor and hit me with a reminder if I don't get back to you in a couple days.
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2016-08-17
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Dr. Rossi from the University of Padova discusses preference aggregation in moral and non-moral contexts, the basic methods for compact specification of preferences and constraints in artificial systems, and how we might go about merging moral preferences and constraints with non-moral preferences and constraints in au...
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2016-08-19
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On one hand, we shouldn't be feeding AI biased information. On the other hand, bias is very subjective and not everyone agrees on what's "unbiased". The truth of the matter is that bias is everywhere and AI is the best way to become less biased - but it's still a slow process.
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2016-08-30
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Some background on the report: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/02/technology/artificial-intelligence-ethics.html
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2016-09-03
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Bittensor Subnet 13 Reddit Dataset

Data-universe: The finest collection of social media data the web has to offer
Data-universe: The finest collection of social media data the web has to offer

Miner Data Compliance Agreement

In uploading this dataset, I am agreeing to the Macrocosmos Miner Data Compliance Policy.

Dataset Summary

This dataset is part of the Bittensor Subnet 13 decentralized network, containing preprocessed Reddit data. The data is continuously updated by network miners, providing a real-time stream of Reddit content for various analytical and machine learning tasks. For more information about the dataset, please visit the official repository.

Supported Tasks

The versatility of this dataset allows researchers and data scientists to explore various aspects of social media dynamics and develop innovative applications. Users are encouraged to leverage this data creatively for their specific research or business needs. For example:

  • Sentiment Analysis
  • Topic Modeling
  • Community Analysis
  • Content Categorization

Languages

Primary language: Datasets are mostly English, but can be multilingual due to decentralized ways of creation.

Dataset Structure

Data Instances

Each instance represents a single Reddit post or comment with the following fields:

Data Fields

  • text (string): The main content of the Reddit post or comment.
  • label (string): Sentiment or topic category of the content.
  • dataType (string): Indicates whether the entry is a post or a comment.
  • communityName (string): The name of the subreddit where the content was posted.
  • datetime (string): The date when the content was posted or commented.
  • username_encoded (string): An encoded version of the username to maintain user privacy.
  • url_encoded (string): An encoded version of any URLs included in the content.

Data Splits

This dataset is continuously updated and does not have fixed splits. Users should create their own splits based on their requirements and the data's timestamp.

Dataset Creation

Source Data

Data is collected from public posts and comments on Reddit, adhering to the platform's terms of service and API usage guidelines.

Personal and Sensitive Information

All usernames and URLs are encoded to protect user privacy. The dataset does not intentionally include personal or sensitive information.

Considerations for Using the Data

Social Impact and Biases

Users should be aware of potential biases inherent in Reddit data, including demographic and content biases. This dataset reflects the content and opinions expressed on Reddit and should not be considered a representative sample of the general population.

Limitations

  • Data quality may vary due to the nature of media sources.
  • The dataset may contain noise, spam, or irrelevant content typical of social media platforms.
  • Temporal biases may exist due to real-time collection methods.
  • The dataset is limited to public subreddits and does not include private or restricted communities.

Additional Information

Licensing Information

The dataset is released under the MIT license. The use of this dataset is also subject to Reddit Terms of Use.

Citation Information

If you use this dataset in your research, please cite it as follows:

@misc{jasonmoore922025datauniversereddit_dataset_99,
        title={The Data Universe Datasets: The finest collection of social media data the web has to offer},
        author={jasonmoore92},
        year={2025},
        url={https://huggingface.co/datasets/jasonmoore92/reddit_dataset_99},
        }

Contributions

To report issues or contribute to the dataset, please contact the miner or use the Bittensor Subnet 13 governance mechanisms.

Dataset Statistics

[This section is automatically updated]

  • Total Instances: 380920
  • Date Range: 2014-04-06T00:00:00Z to 2025-06-23T00:00:00Z
  • Last Updated: 2025-06-23T09:24:20Z

Data Distribution

  • Posts: 5.47%
  • Comments: 94.53%

Top 10 Subreddits

For full statistics, please refer to the stats.json file in the repository.

Rank Topic Total Count Percentage
1 r/politics 37641 9.88%
2 r/worldnews 28465 7.47%
3 r/nba 27705 7.27%
4 r/wallstreetbets 24742 6.50%
5 r/soccer 23510 6.17%
6 r/movies 20755 5.45%
7 r/gaming 20743 5.45%
8 r/ChatGPT 16386 4.30%
9 r/baseball 16234 4.26%
10 r/hockey 13114 3.44%

Update History

Date New Instances Total Instances
2025-06-21T21:10:20Z 191486 191486
2025-06-22T15:23:30Z 90837 282323
2025-06-23T09:24:20Z 98597 380920
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