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i wanted this to share a few things but i'm going to not share as much as i wanted to share because we are starting late i'd like to get this thing going so we all get home at a decent hour this this election is very important to state we support agriculture to the tune of point four percent no way i made a mistake this year they lowered it from point four percent to point three eight percent and in the same breath they're saying food
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I wanted to share a few things, but I'm gonna not share as much as I wanted to share because we are starting late. I'd like to get this thing going so we can all get home at a decent hour. This election is very important to state. We support agriculture to the tune of 0.4%. Oh, no, wait, I made a mistake. This year they lowered it from 0.4% to 0.38%. And in the same breath, they're saying,
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security so it doesn't feel very secure to me as a farmer to hear that and my family and i we've been farming here since nineteen ninety three and we produce last year we produce twenty one thousand pounds of food for the community on two thousand square feet so unless we were that efficient to produce that much food
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So it doesn't feel very secure to me as a farmer to hear that. And my family and I, we've been farming here since 1993. And we produce, last year we produced 21,000 pounds of food for the community on 2,000 square feet. So unless we were that efficient to produce that much food,
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commons here in the spirit of being able to grow our food here locally so we started as an organization in actually in two thousand and nine but really in two thousand and ten march of two thousand and ten we had our first meeting on maui and now we have ten chapters across the islands and about nine hundred members so we are growing exponentially and we're fortunate to know that we have not only
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commons here in the spirit of being able to grow our food here locally. So we started as an organization actually in 2009, but really in 2010. March of 2010 we had our first meeting here in Maui, and now we have 10 chapters across the islands and about 900 members. So we are growing exponentially, and we're fortunate to know that we have not only
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farmers but gardeners and foodies alike who value our mission and what we're what we're about in rejuvenating our lands and also at the same time advocating for our local food production so what we've done as an organisation is put together a five point plan you'll hear about that five point plan tonight in our questions and that five point plan basically deals with the whole system of agriculture what makes up the whole system of agriculture and as we see it is
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farmers, but gardeners and foodies alike who value our mission and what we're about in rejuvenating our lands and also at the same time advocating for our local food production. So what we've done as an organization is put together a five-point plan and you'll hear about that five-point plan tonight in our questions. And that five-point plan basically deals with the whole system of agriculture. What makes up a whole system of agriculture? And as we see it is
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at forty years old getting into farming didn't know what i was doing i was a gardener you know but i had the passion and that's what i still have today and that's what's can sustain our family farm along with my wife's passion and our son who works full time on the farm and our daughter who came out of it actually she designs and fabricate her own women's swimwear line so here she grew up in a farm family knew about being an entrepreneur and she went and got to go work for somebody else you know and design
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at 40 years old, getting into farming, didn't know what I was doing, I was a gardener, you know. But I had the passion, and that's what I still have today, and that's what's sustained our family farm along with my wife's passion, and our son who works full time on the farm, and our daughter, who came out of it, actually, she designs and fabricates her own women's swimwear line. So here she grew up in a farm family, knew about being an entrepreneur, and she went and gone, I'm not gonna go work for somebody else, you know, and designed,
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has her own business in that respect so there's a lot of benefits to our economy that represents a family farm the multiplier effect we like to call it so outside of work workforce development we support agricultural land trust we get out once they get it and that would be enforced in a way that we wouldn't have any quote unquote gentleman estates they would be active farms and so we have a man in our organization who's actually a board member of our five hundred one c three foundation tailbone our has been
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that has her own business in that respect. So there's a lot of benefits to our economy that represents a family farm. The multiplier effect, we like to call it. So outside of workforce development, we support agricultural land trusts. We get out once they get out. And that would be enforced in a way that we wouldn't have any quote unquote gentlemen estates, they would be active farms. And so we have a man in our organization who's actually a board member of our 501c3 foundation, Dale Bonar,
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advocating advocating and working on developing that third thing is new treat recycling centers we're developing and advocating for those in our regions c the reason why we have so many chapters is because we want to build our agricultural strength regionally we want to you know when you're growing things in hama it's a lot different than you're growing in line where james is right now you know and so each region has its own issues and its own challenges and its own benefits
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advocating and working on developing that. Third thing is nutrient recycling centers. We're developing and advocating for those in our regions. See, the reason why we have so many chapters is because we want to build our agricultural strength regionally. We want to, you know, when you're growing things in Hana, it's a lot different than you're growing in Lahaina where James is right now, you know. And so each region has its own issues and its own challenges and its own benefits.
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and we want to highlight those and bring that to where we can have a supportive system in place so nutrient recycling our nutrients back on to the land to rejuvenate the soils that have been depleted by plantation agriculture over a long period of time is an important aspect of what we represent and the fourth thing is food hubs have aggregates places where we can as farmers bring all our produce and then have that aggregate out whether it's fresh and
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and we wanna highlight those and bring that to where we can have a supportive system in place. So recycling our nutrients back onto the land to rejuvenate the soils that have been depleted by plantation agriculture over a long period of time is an important aspect of what we represent. And the fourth thing is food hubs. Have aggregates, places where we can, as farmers, bring all our produce and then have that aggregate out, whether it's fresh and or
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and it's so beautiful to see these kind of farms these boutique farms springing up all over the place so it's important that we support our farmers first and foremost making a living at what they love to do and secondly to put across five point plan and you the folks that are running for office they can get into office to support us in this respect because we're poised to work with anyone who is willing to work with us so on that note i'd like to introduce our first
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you know, and it's so beautiful to see these kind of farms, these boutique farms springing up all over the place. So it's important that we support our farmers, first and foremost, making a living at what they love to do. And secondly, to put across this five point plan and to have you, the folks that are running for office, that can get into office, to support us in this respect, because we're poised to work with anyone who is willing to work with us. So on that note, I'd like to introduce our first
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but domestic violence doesn't happen in a vacuum it's a lot of the community issues things like poverty homelessness housing all the different effects of of you know living on an island community and the cost of living and all those kinds i know on a very small scale what farmers experience on a large scale aside from the having to make a living at it so i'm not doing it on that level i'm just trying to raise enough tomatoes for my grandson
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But domestic violence doesn't happen in a vacuum. It's a lot of the community issues, things like poverty, homelessness, housing, all the different effects of living on an island community and the cost of living and all those kinds. I know on a very small scale what farmers experience on a large scale, aside from though having to make a living at it. So I'm not doing it on that level. I'm just trying to raise enough tomatoes for my grandson
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to eat every morning so i am here mostly to learn to i'm glad to know that the white farmers union is relatively young and so i'm not too far behind the curve and i'm grateful to be development sorry for the false start on that and there are comment on that is that with the average age of farmers in hawaii it at sixty we can all agree we need to grow a new generation of farmers equipped with the skills to create successful farming
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to eat every morning. So I'm here mostly to learn too. I'm glad to know that the Hawaii Farmers Union is relatively young. And so I'm not too far behind the curve. And I'm grateful to be here. Sorry for the false start on that. And our comment on that is that with the average age of farmers in Hawaii at 60, we can all agree we need to grow a new generation of farmers equipped with the skills to create successful farming
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also having gotten grants from the county i know that they have a lot of requirements but i think when you're looking at a program like this you're looking at something new and something different so i think everyone could come with a different set of goals and they might all be very very worthy right because you might have somebody who's trying to create a farm you might have somebody who are who has a farm was trying to get a bigger farm you might have somebody with a big farm that's trying to invest in and infrastructure more
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Also, having gotten grants from the county, I know that they have a lot of requirements. But I think when you're looking at a program like this, you're looking at something new and something different. So I think everyone could come with a different set of goals, and they might all be very, very worthy, right? Because you might have somebody who's trying to create a farm. You might have somebody who already has a farm who's trying to get a bigger farm. You might have somebody with a big farm that's trying to invest in infrastructure more
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equipment or something like that so i think those kinds of grants shouldn't be too restrictive because you need to be able to be creative with new projects so i would support that because i think the need is here and it's huge question and the statement and i think of the programs that we have in place programs that we grew up with like f if a and things like that i noticed as an adult i don't see as much participation when we were in
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equipment or something like that. So I think those kinds of grants shouldn't be too restrictive because you need to be able to be creative with new projects. So I would support that because I think the need is here and it's huge. Question and the statement and I think of the programs that we have in place, programs that we grew up with like FFA and things like that. I noticed as an adult I don't see as much participation when we're in high
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much anymore and that's something that we need to start to support more in our schools to support our fund i'd like to see that apprenticeship programs incorporate alternative farming practices i you would want a beginning farmer program to have in order to win your support absolutely absolutely in my thoughts in a farm apprenticeship program in any apprenticeship program is importance of diversity in their training as a young farmer
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much anymore and that's something that we need to start to support more in our schools. To support a fund I'd like to see that apprenticeship programs incorporate alternative farming practices. You would want a beginning farmer program to have in order to win your support. Absolutely, absolutely. My thoughts in a farm apprenticeship program and any apprenticeship program is the importance of diversity in their training. As a young farmer
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diversity in pest control in soil maintenance which is a big issue that will be discussing in a little bit and especially i think a lot of people when they think about farm apprenticeships they think about manual labor so i that's why i would like to see more training and more education in the program so that the farmers that we produce are going to be able to accept and be able to deal with some of the change in diversity in the market thank
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diversity, in pest control, in soil maintenance, which is a big issue that we'll be discussing in a little bit. And especially, I think a lot of people, when they think about farm apprenticeships, they think about manual labor. So that's why I would like to see more training and more education in the program so that the farmers that we produce are going to be able to accept and be able to deal with some of the change in diversity in the market. Thank you.
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thank you all our next question is strangely enough on the same theme only it's about nutrient cycling centers and soil health and regenerative agriculture so our lead in comment currently many of our hawaii farmers months purchased imported nutrient farm amendments is an expense for farmers that's passed down to the consumer in the meantime we accept twenty thousand tons of food waste at the maui county dump that could
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Thank you all. Our next question is strangely enough on the same theme, only it's about nutrient cycling centers and soil health and regenerative agriculture. So our lead in comment, currently many of our Hawaii farmers must purchase imported nutrient farm amendments. It's an expense for farmers that's passed down to the consumer. In the meantime, we accept 20,000 tons of food waste at the Maui County dump that could be
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one of the barriers is definitely that many of our leaders are not maybe not privy to the background of all the different farming practices in the last two years of my degree i focused on the anthropology of agriculture and how different countries throughout the world are now reverting back to their indigenous agriculture systems in brazil
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One of the barriers is definitely that many of our leaders are not, maybe not privy to the background of all the different farming practices. In the last two years of my degree, I focused on the anthropology of agriculture and how different countries throughout the world are now reverting back to their indigenous agriculture systems in Brazil
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in korea and learning that the system that worked all along was the best system for the place which makes perfect sense but we've been i think in a in a place where we've we have multiple hotels here who do these huge catering jobs and have all this extra food and i actually know that because sometimes the food ends about our shelter when it's good but you know there's all this byproduct you know when you're prepping food
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in Korea, and learning that the system that worked all along was the best system for the place, which makes perfect sense. But we've been, I think, in a place where we've... We have multiple hotels here who do these huge catering jobs and have all this extra food. And I actually know that because sometimes the food ends up at our shelter when it's good. But there's all this byproduct. When you're prepping food,
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all that stuff there's so much food just from the hotels and catering companies that could end up in composting that makes perfect sense to me i think part of the problem and the barrier is that we similar we don't know better yet like we're just learning about that that we could take all that food and turn it into wonderful rich soil is it's not a new concept by any means is a very old concept but we've gotten used to doing
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all that stuff, there's so much food just from the hotels and catering companies that could end up in composting. That makes perfect sense to me. I think part of the problem and the barrier is that we, similar to what Napua said, we don't know better yet. Like we're just learning about that, that we could take all that food and turn it into wonderful rich soil. It's not a new concept by any means. It's a very old concept, but we've gotten used to doing
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educate us as county council and as leaders throughout the state about the importance of that thank you thank you very much all of you thank you i don't know if we mention this this race actually has four people running but we we need an empty seat ok food helps across the nation food hubs are becoming solutions for centralizing food processing and distribution increasing food production capabilities for small farmers by paving the way for
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educate us as County Council and as leaders throughout the state about the importance of that. Thank you. Thank you very much all of you. I don't know if we mentioned this, this race actually has four people running but we need an empty seat. Okay food hubs. Across the nation food hubs are becoming solutions for centralizing food processing and distribution, increasing food production capabilities for small farmers by paving the way for
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cooperatives our five point plan is working with the state wide farm to school initiative for growing food for the dio we school lunch program all three of you you have one minute please describe benefits you can imagine for the citizens of maui that would result from the maui county facilitating in funding a food hub let me repeat that please describe benefits you can imagine for the citizens of maui that would result from maui county
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Our five point plan is working with the statewide farm to school initiative for growing food for the DOE school lunch program. Now all three of you, you have one minute. Please describe benefits you can imagine for the citizens of Maui that would result from the Maui County facilitating and funding a food hub. Let me repeat that. Please describe benefits you can imagine for the citizens of Maui that would result from Maui County
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fishermen up there selling for fresh fish you've got people growing and cooking with their own food and and selling wonderful fresh food at the market so something like that i i also think that oh and one of the biggest things that happened for my family is this fresh eggs you know getting our gannett eggs that cost goes great by getting locally grown eggs that are all different sizes and colors and and when there's a huge difference so that was an
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fishermen up there selling fresh fish. You've got people growing and cooking with their own food and selling wonderful fresh food at the market. So something like that. I also think that, oh, and because one of the biggest things that's happened for my family is this fresh eggs. You know, getting organic eggs at Costco is great, but getting locally grown eggs that are all different sizes and colors and there's a huge difference. So that was an
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education for me and you know one of my things that i'm i keep saying is you know i grew up in a time where things were different and going to the supermarket became a luxury and that if you had any status you go to the market you don't have to have your own chickens but we're reclaiming that now and i think and what happened people grew their own food people worked on barter systems people were able to have their own food hubs in their communities where they were able to trade and barter their goods for the things they needed why do i think food hubs are important because a food hub for sustainable
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education for me. And you know, one of my things that I'm, I keep saying is, you know, I grew up in a time where things were different and going to the supermarket became a luxury in that if you had any status, you go to the market, you don't have to have your own chickens, but we're reclaiming that now. And I think, and what happened, people grew their own food, people worked on barter systems, people were able to have their own food hubs in their communities where they were able to trade and barter their goods for the things they needed. Why do I think food hubs are important? Because a food hub for sustainable
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training that would be involved with that education for these people this is part of the five point plan for the farmers union in my mind to bring apart this new change in our agricultural system and how we view our food how what we eat and how we eat it so i would be completely for developing these food hubs for the idea of training apprenticeship programs bringing healthy food into our community and developing through the county of maui ways that we can use and certify these are getting farms so that a food can be given
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that would be involved with that. The education for these people. This is part of the five point plan for the Farmers Union in my mind to bring apart this new change in our agricultural system and how we view our food, what we eat and how we eat it. So I would be completely for developing these food hubs for the idea of training, apprenticeship programs, bringing healthy food into our community and developing through the county of Maui ways that we can use and certify these organic farms so that a food can be given
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so we're going to switch to policy a little bit and we're going to have a separate question for each of you we have specific questions with each of you in mind our topic is the farm land zoning and affordable land trusts in other words this you have two minutes so here's your question our organization supports the concepts of farmers living on the land they farm and lease through an agricultural land trust what
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So we're going to switch to policy a little bit and we're going to have a separate question for each of you. We have specific questions with each of you in mind. Our topic is the farmland zoning and affordable land trusts. In other words, what it says. No, no, no, I'm looking forward to this. Eric, you have two minutes. So here's your question. Our organization supports the concepts of farmers living on the land they farm and lease through an agricultural land trust.
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ideas would you propose in moving in this direction so that it would be actualized in other words how can we make it so that people can lease farm lands and actually live on them it's a wonderful question it's interesting thing is i think we're looking at housing start developing more sustainable lands that these farmers are actually putting more interest into their land as they're developing the cost and the resources that they can be gained from that as we're developing that we need to look i think we need to look at that
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what ideas would you propose in moving in this direction so that it would be actualized? In other words, how can we make it so that people can lease farmlands and actually live on them? That's a wonderful question. It's an interesting thing, I think we're looking at housing, start developing more sustainable land so that these farmers are actually putting more interest into their land as they're developing the cost and the resources that can be gained from that. As we're developing that, I think we need to look at that
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community is to start getting on some big business to say what is your plan especially alexander bald how are you planning on developing this for as you they have stated for use for individual farmland once that is together then i think we can move forward as a group towards a project to speaking with right now so these are three of the four candidates for the a country consul seat a stacey you have your own question two minutes what are your ideas for changing eggs zoning that will allow for more options for farm
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community is to start getting on some big business to say, what is your plan? Especially Alexander and Baldwin. How are you planning on developing this for, as they have stated, for use for individual farmland? Once that is together, then I think we can move forward as a group towards a project to... Speaking with right now. So these are three of the four candidates for the upcountry consul seat. Stacey, you have your own question. Two minutes. What are your ideas for changing ag zoning that will allow for more options for farm
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worker dwellings including temporary structures such as the new trend of tiny houses in your i think that's an excellent idea i love the title house idea and i think that we do need to change some of our regulations if you will to allow for that because right now it's kind of complicated you really can't just put up a year you still need a permit if you have a tidy house you need to put it on wheels i mean it's kind of silly but i think that as a county if
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worker dwellings, including temporary structures such as the new trend of tiny houses and yurts. I think that's an excellent idea. I love the tiny house idea and I think that we do need to change some of our regulations, if you will, to allow for that because right now it's kind of complicated and you really can't just put up a yurt. You still need a permit. If you have a tiny house, you need to put it on wheels. I mean, it's kind of silly, but I think that as a county, if
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we're really committed to one affordable housing which we keep saying we are and if we are really committed to farming and growing our food and supporting local businesses these are all very small businesses we're trying to support we keep saying we are and we need to find ways to make that happen and so i would support that i think the concern is that sometimes people will say that it's workforce housing and build a mansion on their land so i think that we would
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we're really committed to one affordable housing, which we keep saying we are, and if we're really committed to farming and growing our food and supporting local businesses, these are all very small businesses we're trying to support. We keep saying we are, then we need to find ways to make that happen. And so I would support that. I think the concern is that sometimes people will say that it's workforce housing and build a mansion on their ag land. So I think that we would
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want to monitor that and have an enforcement part of this as well to make sure it's one thing yes we absolutely want to support workforce housing if you're working on the farm that's very important and we all have to have support and housing you know looking at not everybody's paying their fair share sometimes on taxes some people are paying too much some people are not paying enough so to have an a foresman piece to make sure everybody's paying their fair share that's really important to me i think we need to look at that and that that would actually pay for itself
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want to monitor that and have an enforcement part of this as well to make sure because it's one thing. Yes, we absolutely want to support workforce housing. If you're working on the farm, that's very important. We all have to have support and housing, you know, looking at not everybody's paying their fair share sometimes on taxes. Some people are paying too much. Some people are not paying enough. So to have an enforcement piece to make sure everybody's paying their fair share, that's really important to me. I think we need to look at that and that that would actually pay for itself
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pretty quickly i also wanted to say that you know the we have a big housing crisis here so this is a solution i think to several problems the housing and the ag and the growing food so i think it's a good solutions i'm really glad you're asking those questions thank you
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pretty quickly. I also wanted to say that, you know, we have a big housing crisis here. So this is a solution, I think, to several problems, the housing and the ag and the growing food. So I think it's a good solution. So I'm really glad you're asking those questions. Thank you.
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thank you have two minutes and your question is completely different given what it costs for the average farmer to rent a house lease farmland pay for equipment pay for imported amendments and import irrigation costs etc in other words there's a lot of cost if you want to farm what do you think it will take to make farming more successful enterprise and what could you do about it if you're elected i think it is going to take the corporation
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Napua, you have two minutes, and your question is completely different. Given what it costs for the average farmer to rent a house, lease farmland, pay for equipment, pay for imported amendments and inputs, irrigation costs, et cetera, in other words, there's a lot of costs if you want to farm, what do you think it will take to make farming more successful enterprise, and what could you do about it if you're elected? I think it is going to take the cooperation
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of county and state government to be able to put aside those funds you know in just touching on the other questions i think i believe in order for us to change what is acceptable and that's going to take a change to what you revert by statutes or change to our county charter but that's something as policymakers that is in our power to do and i think we need to be able to look at the
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of county and state government to be able to put aside those funds. Just touching on the other questions, I believe in order for us to change what is acceptable, an ag that's gonna take a change to the Hawaii revised statutes or a change to our county charter, but that's something as policy makers that is in our power to do. And I think we need to be able to look at the
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policies that have been in place for ever and and reexamine if they truly suit us today and if they don't then we need to look at what our community really needs and funding i would be able to bring different parts of our community together i think one of my strengths is being able to reach out to those who are the experts in their field i readily know that i am not in experts in off field and i am aware
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policies that have been in place forever and reexamine if they truly suit us today. And if they don't, then we need to look at what our community really needs. And funding, I would be able to bring different parts of our community together. I think one of my strengths is being able to reach out to those who are the experts in their field. I readily know that I am not an expert in all fields, and I am aware
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of that and i i very much honor and respect the expertise of those people who are experts when i was on the state land use commission i did vote against of very controversial development on awful because how much the cost of irrigation would be to develop a new site and so as policy makers as government leaders we need to be able to protect those people who are producing food we need to be able to protect those
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of that. And I very much honor and respect the expertise of those people who are our experts. When I was on the State Land Use Commission, I did vote against a very controversial development on Oahu because how much the cost of irrigation would be to develop a new site. And so as policymakers, as government leaders, we need to be able to protect those people who are producing food. We need to be able to protect those
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places that they are currently farming those places that are currently in ag and we need to to put aside those funds and invest if security food sustainability is our goal like water infrastructure like all those things like like housing affordable housing we need to be able to prioritize and give funding to those places thank you so much
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places that they are currently farming, those places that are currently in ag. And we need to put aside those funds and invest. If food security and food sustainability is our goal, like water infrastructure, like all those things, like housing, affordable housing, we need to be able to prioritize and give funding to those places. Mahalo. Thank you so much.
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third party a completely one of the thoughts that i've had is maybe it should be a separate entity that just doing the public trust maybe not necessarily a nonprofit but it could be a nonprofit but it could be a completely separate corporation that runs and maintains that system because right now the the challenge is you know we have a big corporation who has used that water system for its very existence and sugar you know
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third party a completely, one of the thoughts that I've had is maybe it should be a separate entity that's just doing the public trust. Maybe not necessarily a nonprofit, but it could be a nonprofit, but it could be a completely separate corporation that runs and maintains that system. Because right now the challenge is, you know, we have a big corporation who has used that water system for its very existence in sugar, you know,
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so and they you know they built it and they've maintained it but they've also read their investment many times over so now it's time to share the water with everyone re stores some of the streams that have been you know they've cut the streams off so the life cycles there have completely changed and there are farmers along the way we need to if our commitment is to diversify agriculture we're going to need to share that water
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And so, and they, you know, they built it and they've maintained it, but they've also recouped their investment many times over. So now it's time to share the water with everyone, restore some of the streams that have been, you know, they've cut the streams off. So the life cycles there have completely changed and there are farmers along the way. We need to, if our commitment is to diversify agriculture, we're going to need to share that water.
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invested interests in it owning it maybe it's the state i mean maybe that's the best answer maybe it's a third party i i would like to investigate that more thank you very much system that needs repair and or replacement how do you as a candidate see the needed infrastructure being put in while dealing with the multiple entities out there that wish to control the water should i repeat that
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invested interest in it owning it. Maybe it's the state, I mean maybe that's the best answer. Maybe it's a third party. I would like to investigate that more. Thank you very much. System that needs repair and or replacement. How do you as a candidate see the needed infrastructure being put in while dealing with the multiple entities out there that wish to control the water? Should I repeat that first?
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was the legislature approved alexander bottom to keep the water rights for the next thirteen years that's a complete travesty that should have that should be immediately really looked at and changed so that we're not it's not under corporate control i believe all of that water and that infrastructure that was built supplies water to the plantation not counting your game and there was water by is everywhere i think we need to get control back of our water system so we can use it to get back to the streams to get back to our the people who need it with that we need to deal with our water quality
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Hawaii State Legislature approved Alexander Baldwin to keep the water rights for the next 13 years. That's a complete travesty. That should be immediately re-looked at and changed so that we're not, it's not under corporate control. I believe a lot of that water and that infrastructure that was built applies water to the plantation, not counting East Maui irrigation. There was water, vias everywhere. I think we need to get control back of our water system so we can use it to get back to the streams, to get back to the people who need it. With that, we need to deal with our water quality.
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we have to get back to looking at the old system you know we have great groups at the watershed partnerships we have to make sure that the water coming from the mountain is safe healthy and clean for our farmers to use i think we need to look at it as this top down system protect our water resources and again to reclaim the water that's here on the island to the people who really deserve it and not the large corporations who abused it thank you thank you
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We have to get back to looking at the old Ahupua system. You know, we have great groups with the watershed partnerships. We have to make sure that the water coming from the mountain is safe, healthy, and clean for our farmers to use. I think we need to look at it as this top-down system, Mauka to Makai, to protect our water resources. And again, to reclaim the water that's here on the island to the people who really deserve it and not the large corporations who have abused it. Thank you. Thank you.
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there and not in use and it's it's shameful it's disgraceful when so many people need it that we hear so often about the need of all the different parts of our community that no one entity should be able to waste that way and so i would be very active in looking at the policies that concern this thank you very much
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and not in use. And it's shameful, it's disgraceful when so many people need it. We hear so often about the need of all the different parts of our community that no one entity should be able to waste that way. And so I would be very active in looking at the policies that concern this. Mahalo. Thank you very much.
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economic efficiency with the hope that this would replace currently employed practices that the farmers union doesn't really support so knowing that we have a few questions for you starting with eric what would you do to empower the hawaii department of agriculture in hawaii health department by supporting bills that monitor pesticide drift to protect our health and environment such as things like product testing soil
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economic efficiencies and with the hope that this would replace currently employed practices that the farmers union doesn't really support. So knowing that we have a few questions for you starting with Eric. What would you do to empower the Hawaii Department of Agriculture and Hawaii Health Department by supporting bills that monitor pesticide drift to protect our health and environment such as things like product testing, soil
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citizens in maui county need to take the helm on that and start doing their own tests there are organizations the department of water supply there's other groups where you can swab your screens i think we need to find out especially if you're living next to an agricultural area where there is spring or you suspect to look at what the chemicals are in the area with that i have to say that i think a lot of it is up to the individual landowner i'm against pesticides you know in my in my career and i have a large stand as a farmer
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citizens in Maui County need to take the helm on that and start doing their own tests. There are organizations, the Department of Water Supply, there's other groups where you can swab your screens. I think we need to find out, especially if you're living next to an agricultural area where there is spraying or you suspect, to look at what the chemicals are in the area. With that, I have to say that I think a lot of it is up to the individual landowner. I'm against pesticides. In my career in Maui, I did a large stint as a farmer.
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stacey one minute again when it's been proven that there are biological applications that can provide solutions to agricultural production issues what is your position on promoting these over practices that use other substances which which are well known hormonal disruptors and possible carcinogens and might cause physical harm to both people and the environment so the question is about
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Stacy, one minute again. When it's been proven that there are biological applications that can provide solutions to agricultural production issues, what is your position on promoting these over practices that use other substances which are well-known hormonal disruptors and possible carcinogens and might cause physical harm to both people and the environment? So the question is about
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if there are proven biological applications what your position on promoting the over you know our business as usual practices again i think it comes back to when you know better and i have to do better so part of the i sat on the resolutions committee for the democratic party last year or last convention two years ago and one of the big things that came up from koichi was that people children were being born with horrible birth defects you couldn't deny it
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If there are proven biological applications, what's your position on promoting these over our business as usual practices? Again, I think it comes back to when you know better, now you have to do better. So part of the, I sat on the resolutions committee for the Democratic Party last year, or last convention two years ago. And one of the big things that came up from Kauai was that people, children were being born with horrible birth defects. You couldn't deny it.
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there was such a high level of that that was proving to be connected to pesticides and runoff and things like that and so the party created a position saying that that need to stop that we need to be informed and that people need to know what was happening in their areas because it was so dramatic i would absolutely support that too i think the least that we can expect is to know what's going on in our especially near schools and there are homes near parks and if there are
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There was such a high level of that that was proven to be connected to pesticides and runoff and things like that. And so the party created a position saying that that needed to stop, that we needed to be informed and that people needed to know what was happening in their areas because it was so dramatic. I would absolutely support that too. I think the least that we can expect is to know what's going on in our, especially near schools, near our homes, near parks, and if there are
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biological ways that will work then we need to look at that if we if there are proven ways then we need to use that instead because i know that there are ways that are we're just not using because we're not being sort of sold by dow chemical you know parks and our our highways our department of parks and rec our our county managing director if we can be able to show through experience through through it works that these these alternative
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biological ways that will work, then we need to look at that. If there are proven ways, then we need to use that instead. Because I know that there are ways that we're just not using because we're not being sold by Dow Chemical. Parks and our highways, our Department of Parks and Rec, our County Managing Director, if we can be able to show through experience, through it works, that these alternative
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methods and methods that are better for us where then then they're more apt to use them and i would want to create policies to make us use them thank you thank you very much we have one last you one last question and this one's labeled other but it's for all three of you and we'll give you one minute we have noticed that many of the candidates running this year are freshman in a field of potentially seasoned council
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methods and methods that are better for us work, then they're more apt to use them. And I would want to create policy to make us use them. Thank you. Thank you all very much. We have one last question. One last question, and this one's labeled other. But it's for all three of you, and we'll give you one minute. We have noticed that many of the candidates running this year are freshmen in a field of potentially seasoned council
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potentially seasoned council members how do you see working together with others that may not share your values or point of view in how to address our agricultural needs and eric you can go first one minute issues and be involved in any kind of negotiations and any kind of a planning there is always a need for mediation because there are always conflicting views as council member my goal would be to be there as that mediator to help bring
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potentially seasoned council members, how do you see working together with others that may not share your values or point of view in how to address our agricultural needs? And Eric, you can go first. One minute. And be involved. In any kind of negotiations and any kind of a planning, there is always a need for mediation because they're always conflicting views. As the next council member, my goal would be to be there as that mediator to help bring
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in different parties to communicate well and to come up with a viable solution to every problem because conflict is part of life and as we're seeing in most election process is right now that this is where we're bringing people together and trying to organize to develop the vision in a field of potentially seasoned council members how do you see working together with others that may not share your values or point of view and how to address our agricultural needs first of all i think it's wonderful that there are a
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different parties to communicate well and to come up with a viable solution to every problem because conflict is part of life and as we're seeing in most election processes right now that this is where we're bringing people together and trying to organize to develop the vision in a field of potentially seasoned council members how do you see working together with others that may not share your values or point of view and how to address our agricultural needs first of all I think it's wonderful that there are a
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lot of new people trying to get into public service because i think that where a testament to the fact that where ready for something different and so i i i think that's wonderful i also think that for most of my career as an advocate i'm working with people who often don't see eye to eye domestic violence was not a very popular conversation in the eighty's when i first started doing this work so we brought this to the public we started having
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lot of new people trying to get into public service because I think that we're a testament to the fact that we're ready for something different and so I I I think that's wonderful I also think that for most of my career as an advocate I'm working with people who often don't see eye to eye domestic violence was not a very popular conversation in the 80s when I first started doing this work so we brought this to the public we started having
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conversations and then we had to engage people to help us in the solution because it was a problem that we couldn't solve by ourselves and sometimes we had very differing opinions and so part of the thing that i'm most proud of is creating collaboration is that we're very effective to work on creating laws that protect victims of domestic violence creating task forces and collaboration's and that work together and bring people in from actually you know sometimes on polarized positions so i think
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conversations. Then we had to engage people to help us in the solution because it was a problem that we couldn't solve by ourselves. And sometimes we had very differing opinions. And so part of the thing that I'm most proud of is creating collaborations that were very effective to work on creating laws that protect victims of domestic violence, creating task forces and collaborations and that work together and bring people in from actually, you know, sometimes on polarized positions. So I think as
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as an advocate i have already had that experience of working with groups of people and i would bring that skill even as a freshman i'm not a rookie at working in groups of people thank you view of how challenging being a candidate is and i think one of the strengths that i have is my background in education to be an effective teacher you need to be able to present the same information
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an advocate I have already had that experience of working with groups of people and I would bring that skill even as a freshman I'm not a rookie at working in groups of people thank you view of how challenging being a candidate is and I think one of the strengths that I have is my background in education to be an effective teacher you need to be able to present the same information as
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a bunch of different ways because you're dealing with students who come from very diverse backgrounds are very diverse communities and so i can't just say one time and hope they all get it i have to say it five times in different ways and hope you all get it and to be able to know what different ways to say it i need to look at you as an individual and see where you come from i want to know where you come from where your background is so i know how best to present it to you so that you can get it so we can get on some
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a bunch of different ways because you're dealing with students who come from very diverse backgrounds, like our very diverse communities. And so I can't just say it one time and hope they all get it. I have to say it five times in different ways and hope you all get it. And to be able to know different ways to say it, I need to look at you as an individual and see where you come from. I want to know where you come from, where your background is, so I know how best to present it to you so that you can get it, so we can get on some
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kind of common ground you know my my travels in different countries have also helped me to not just present that information to people here in hawaii but but people from different countries and i believe it's my cultural background that helps me to understand those of different cultures and we need to be able to find common ground in order to move forward and i also understand that although we may disagree on one issue
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kind of common ground. You know, my travels in different countries have also helped me to not just present that information to people here in Hawaii, but people from different countries. And I believe it's my cultural background that helps me to understand those of different cultures. We need to be able to find common ground in order to move forward. And I also understand that although we may disagree on one issue,
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the issue doesn't define a person and i think too often we see leadership today that we are allowing one issue to define people and as a wonderful community the community that has helped to raise me we cannot be a little each other to think we are defined by just one issue because where we are more complex than that and we are we're so much better than that also and so i think i've already had experiences with there are people you know i don't agree with
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The issue doesn't define a person. And I think too often we see in leadership today that we are allowing one issue to define people. And as a wonderful community, the community that has helped to raise me, we cannot belittle each other to think we are defined by just one issue, because we are way more complex than that. And we are so much better than that also. And so I think I've already had experiences with there are people, you know, I don't agree with our mayor
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studying anthropology of agriculture and and it's amazing in india we talk about water in india they have a water temple system and this is how they manage their water where the people who designate how that but it exists and it works and i think we need to be able to one be educated on what works in different parts of the world to be able to bring what is the very best home to have we also need to be educated in what always work here
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studying anthropology of agriculture. And it's amazing in India that we talk about water. In India, they have a water tempo system. And this is how they manage their water, where the people who designate how that works. But it exists and it works. And I think we need to be able to, one, be educated on what works in different parts of the world to be able to bring what is the very best home to Hawaii. We also need to be educated in what always worked here in
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our indigenous systems because we know what what works we know what this i know is made for and we need to be able to consult those experts we need to value that information and that education instead of ignoring it and putting it to the si so i'm very excited about about the vision i'm excited about this movement i'm excited to see what we can do together as a community
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our indigenous systems, because we know what works, we know what this Aina was made for, and we need to be able to consult those experts. We need to value that information and that education instead of ignoring it and putting it to the side. So I'm very excited about the vision. I'm excited about this movement. I'm excited to see what we can do together as a community. Mahalo.
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and that even as a farmer other than working with the land i was involved with pesticide issues with land use issues with definitely the water issues that took to keep that farm going and to try and rehabilitate that farm after years of disarray through that through all these experiences i learned so much about the needs of farmers the needs of the land of the needs of businesses to actually survive in a very competitive and a world market again working with some of our flowers were not able to distribute overseas because of being out
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And that even as a farmer, other than working with the land, I was involved with pesticide issues, with land use issues, with definitely the water issues that took to keep that farm going and to try and rehabilitate that farm after years of disarray. Through that, through all these experiences, I learned so much about the needs of farmers, the needs of the land, the needs of businesses to actually survive in a very competitive and a world market. Again, working with some of our flowers where we're not able to distribute overseas because of being out
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competed due to marketing aspects that happened in the eighty's way before i got involved those are all heavy issues and later i would love to communicate with everybody to get more ideas to help me understand individual issues to help you stacy do you have any concluding remarks about your positions on agriculture or is there a question you wish you would have been asked and if so please ask it and respond in two minutes well i really am
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competed due to marketing aspects that happened in the 80s, way before I got involved. Those were all heavy issues. And later, I would love to communicate with everybody to get more ideas to help me understand individual issues, to help them. Stacey, do you have any concluding remarks about your positions on agriculture? Or is there a question you wish you would have been asked? And if so, please ask it and respond in two minutes. Well, I really am
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i think i've learned so much in my little garden and you know and it inspires me i created a whole program just from a piece of calo that my son got visiting someone's field he brought it back he dropped it in a pot because i didn't have time to grow it kahlo and so i learned a lot in the garden i learned a lot from farmers you know that are doing way more than i am but one of the things that i think as a county we should do is support people who
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I think I've learned so much in my little garden, you know, and it inspires me. I created a whole program just from a piece of kalo that my son got visiting someone's field. He brought it back. He dropped it in a pot because I didn't have time to grow it. Keiki kalo. And so I learned a lot in the garden. I learned a lot from farmers, you know, that are doing way more than I am. But one of the things that I think as a county we should do is support people who
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want to grow food because sometimes they're i think we need advocates for farmers and i think the county should create that whether it's in the form of a grant writer or in a in the form of an ag department or but some way to support the farmers because you might be really great at growing food and regenerating the soil and doing all the work that needs to go into and maybe not so great at writing a grant you know an r p g just came out which is a request for proposals to
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want to grow food because sometimes there, I think we need advocates for farmers. And I think the county should create that, whether it's in the form of a grant writer or in the form of an ag department or, but some way to support the farmers because you might be really great at growing food and regenerating the soil and doing all the work that needs to go into it and maybe not so great at writing a grant. You know, an RFP just came out, which is a request for proposals to
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state our peas are very complex and i don't know i'm a grant writer i know how complicated they can be so i feel like the county would do well to higher ground right or to help not just the farmers but in this context certainly the farmers who may not have that skill set so i would like to see more advocacy for people like the farmers who need that level because there's money out there we just need to know how to get it so
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State RFPs are very complex, and I don't know. I'm a grant writer. I know how complicated they can be. So I feel like the county would do well to hire a grant writer to help not just the farmers, but in this context, certainly the farmers who may not have that skill set. So I would like to see more advocacy for people like the farmers who need that level, because there's money out there. We just need to know how to get it.
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i look around the room and i see numerous people who i have provided that mary services for over the years i decided to run for the county council because i have been involved with agriculture for forty years as a veterinarian providing services for cattle horses sheep goats and all the small animals you can name as well as wildlife i'm looking forward to the election
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I look around the room and I see numerous people who I have provided veterinary services for over the years. I decided to run for the county council because I have been involved with agriculture for 40 years as a veterinarian providing services for cattle, horses, sheep, goats, and all the small animals you can name as well as wildlife. I'm looking forward to the election.
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all agree we need to grow a new generation of farmers equipped with the skills to create successful farming enterprises the whole y farmers union united maui chapters farmer what issues would you want to raise before making such a decision in committee dr kaufmann thank you for such a specific question if you want a new generation of
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We all agree we need to grow a new generation of farmers equipped with the skills to create successful farming enterprises. The Hawaii Farmers Union United, Maui chapters, farmer, what issues would you want to raise before making such a decision in committee? Dr. Kaufman? Thank you for such a specific question. If you want a new generation
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every year you have to write up your farm plan how much money are you going to make for the next five years as a farmer and the answer is well who knows is it going to rain is it going to flood what is it going to do and what are you go do with all these pieces of paper putting them in a filing cabinet and all the work i've done to create that what happens with it probably absolutely nothing it just sits there doing nothing my farm planting everybody's farm plan our
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Every year, you have to write up your farm plan. How much money are you going to make for the next five years as a farmer? And the answer is, well, who knows? Is it going to rain? Is it going to flood? What is it going to do? And what are you going to do with all these pieces of paper, putting them in a filing cabinet? And all of the work I've done to create that, what happens with it? Probably absolutely nothing. It just sits there doing nothing. My farm plan and everybody's farm plan, our
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founding fathers of the united states farm plan was straightforward we intend to not starve to death so we're going to make enough food to eat it is yellow my time's up or is it a warning i've got two more fifteen more seconds that's a lot well that's my farm plan i don't want to starve and i want to get rid of the paperwork that i have to turn in that proves it thank you
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founding fathers of the United States farm plan was straightforward. We intend to not starve to death. So we're going to make enough food to eat. Is yellow my time's up or is it a warning? I've got two more, 15 more seconds. That's a lot. Well, that's my farm plan. I don't want to starve and I want to get rid of the paperwork that I have to turn in that proves it. Thank you.
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with a farmer apprenticeship mentoring program i would like to see the benefit not only in growing a new base of farmers but also in sustaining and growing the farm land that we utilize to apprentice these farmers provide back to the program and to the community not only the food that we all like to eat but but that workforce that will be knowledgeable will have hands in the ajna no matter where they're at and we'll know specifically the
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With the Farm Apprenticeship Mentoring Program, I would like to see the benefit not only in growing a new base of farmers, but also in sustaining and growing the farmland that we utilize to apprentice these farmers, provide back to the program and to the community not only the food that we all like to eat, but that workforce that will be knowledgeable, will have hands in the Aina no matter where they're at, and will know specifically the
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types of things that we need here leigh and be able to take that forth and i'd like to see further that there are supports after this mentorship program so that we can continue to support those young farmers until they get to a point where they can actually begin to pay
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types of things that we need here and be able to take that forth. And I'd like to see further that there are supports after this mentorship program so that we can continue to support those young farmers until they get to a point where they can actually begin to pay
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back into the program because i always want to see a pay it forward but remembering where they've come from because if we can build that base there and maintain that strong foundation then that is one of the first steps not just self sustainability for food but food security thank you
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back into the program, because I always want to see a pay it forward, but remembering where they've come from. Because if we can build that base there and maintain that strong foundation, then that is one of the first steps to not just self-sustainability for food, but food security. Thank you.
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i think what we need to do is provide those spaces where we can start to look at that using material that we have here to grow our own our own soil farmers vegetable farmers those who even farm grain to some extent now that hemp is being talked about as a huge crop to look at you know working in a diversified and inclusive
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I think what we need to do is provide those spaces where we can start to look at using material that we have here to grow our own soil and farmers, vegetable farmers, those who even farm grain to some extent now that hemp is being talked about as a huge crop to look at, working in a diversified and a inclusive
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manner i think we really can keep a lot of the waist down from certain industries by utilizing it in other industries and that all of that together you know we can kind of again in a pay it forward manner use the m that i have this much better seeded inverse in livestock things with those rather than things with roots whether you call it in your which is exactly what it is or whether you call it garbage you've got to move it around and put it
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manner, I think we really can keep a lot of the waste down from certain industries by utilizing it in other industries and that all of that together, you know, we can kind of again in a pay it forward manner use the manure. I have is much better seeded and versed in livestock, things with hooves rather than things with roots. But whether you call it manure, which is exactly what it is, or whether you call it garbage, you've got to move it around and put it
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somewhere to do any good with it in the old days when i was a young man garbage was dealt with by collecting it and the hog farmers would gladly take it and if you paid them to pick it up and then they fed it to their pigs and then they sold their pigs they could make money on both ends of the transaction and it would work it doesn't work that way anymore the economics of raising livestock that
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somewhere to do any good with it. In the old days, when I was a young man, garbage was dealt with by collecting it and the hog farmers would gladly take it. And if you paid them to pick it up and then they fed it to their pigs and then they sold their pigs, they could make money on both ends of the transaction and it would work. It doesn't work that way anymore. The economics of raising livestock that
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way are not there how are you going to move your garbage around is it going to have steak bones in it is it going to have napkins in it how are you going to process it and handle it and make it make sense i'd sure like to know you don't run around cow pastures picking up cow pies to use for fertilizer you go to places where there are a lot of livestock theodore's or cows and you get a lot of nor one time in order to use it for
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way are not there. How are you going to move your garbage around? Is it going to have steak bones in it? Is it going to have napkins in it? How are you going to process it and handle it and make it make sense? I'd sure like to know. You don't run around cow pastures picking up cow pies to use for fertilizer. You go to places where there are a lot of livestock, be it horses or cows, and you get a lot of manure one time in order to use it for
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the consumer's mean tile meanwhile we have twenty thousand tons of food waste at the maui county dump and it does could be a valuable indigenous composting material so allan what plans do you have one minute to treat that food to become compost for farmers well my immediate plan is to run for county council so that i won't have to spend as much time moving the nor and garbage
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the consumers. Meanwhile, we have 20,000 tons of food waste at the Maui County dump, and this could be a valuable indigenous composting material. So Alan, what plans do you have, one minute, to treat that food to become compost for our farmers? Well, my immediate plan is to run for county council so that I won't have to spend as much time moving manure and garbage
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make that work we'd love to change our garbage into energy into something useful but at what scale are you going to do it and are you going to make it economically viable and best skilled at listening that's what i we know there are people on council who don't have very good listening skills and they're good people and i don't mean you know it is fat that thank you you see when that red thing comes up it means you're minute is over i'm my red green color blind sorry
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make that work. We'd love to change our garbage into energy, into something useful. But at what scale are you going to do it and are you going to make it economically viable? I'm best skilled at listening. That's what I do. We know there are people on council who don't have very good listening skills. They're good people. And I don't mean, yeah, it is fine. Thank you. You see, when that red thing comes up, it means your minute is over. I'm red, green, colorblind. Sorry. Oh,
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to regenerative farming practices when it comes to this type of nutrient recycling center and i absolutely believe that if we have the supports in place and at a small scale we can just grow our next subject is food hubs our prefatory comment is across the nation good hubs are becoming solutions for centralizing food processing and distribution
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to regenerative farming practices when it comes to this type of nutrient recycling center. And I absolutely believe that if we have the supports in place and at a small scale, we can just grow. Our next subject is food hubs. Our prefatory comment is, across the nation, food hubs are becoming solutions for centralizing food processing and distribution.
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increasing food production capabilities for small farmers by paving the way for reducing farmer costs our hawaii farmers union maoi chapters say this is an opportunity for creating farm cooperatives further why farmers union five point program is working with the state wide farm to school initiative for growing food for the dio we school lunch program
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increasing food production capabilities for small farmers by paving the way for reducing farmer costs. Our Hawaii Farmers Union Maui chapters see this as an opportunity for creating farm cooperatives. Further, Hawaii Farmers Union Five Point Program is working with the statewide Farm to School Initiative for growing food for the DOE School Lunch Program.
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would you prioritize it as a bill or procreation that you would stand behind introduce and or vote for if yes please describe benefits you can imagine for the citizens of healthy food financing initiative that you can find a healthy food access dot org there is the access the food access portal which also details quite a few funding sources i believe that a food hub here not only can
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Would you prioritize it as a bill or appropriation that you would stand behind, introduce, and or vote for? If yes, please describe benefits you can imagine for the citizens of- Healthy Food Financing Initiative that you can find at healthyfoodaccess.org. There is the food access portal, which also details quite a few funding sources. I believe that a food hub here not only can
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aggregate product coming in and we need to help our farmers think about their growing a product because when we look at it everything is value added it's not a tomato it's salsa it's a sauce you know these are the kinds of ways that we need to get people thinking about the food that is grown here and i believe that with the food not only can we educate farmers but we can educate the public we can have agra tourism where we can have people going out and getting more in touch with their food because
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aggregate product coming in and we need to help our farmers think about their growing a product. Because when we look at it, everything is value added. It's not a tomato, it's salsa, it's a sauce. These are the kinds of ways that we need to get people thinking about the food that is grown here. And I believe that with a food hub, not only can we educate farmers, but we can educate the public. We can have agritourism where we can have people going out and getting more in touch with their food because
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that's the issue here at hand today we are not in touch with our food we do not know where it comes from most of it is packaged and we do not know what's included in it and i think that's the crux of our getting ill and we need to take that back for our own h said is that if food hubs you want to have a commercial kitchen you give me a big affirmative on that i need a commercial kitchen one of the things i like to give to people one on sitting up in front of you and
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That's the issue here at hand today. We are not in touch with our food. We do not know where it comes from. Most of it is packaged and we do not know what's included in it. And I think that's the crux of our getting ill and we need to take that back for our own health. Is it at food hubs you want to have a commercial kitchen? You give me a big affirmative on that? We need a commercial kitchen. One of the things I like to give to people when I'm sitting up in front of you and
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talking with you or to you camera or there is something very practical we're in a world of limited resources there's only so much that can get done one of the most difficult things th council members have to do is say here's the pie i'm sorry you're not going to get a piece you're deserving you should have it women helping women i'm all for it but there's not enough to go how are we going to do it and got fifteen seconds w
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talking with you or to you, camera over there, is something very practical. We're in a world of limited resources. There's only so much that can get done. One of the most difficult things that council members have to do is say, here's the pie, I'm sorry, you're not gonna get a piece. You're deserving, you should have it. Women helping women, I'm all for it. But there's not enough to go. How are we gonna do it? I've got 15 seconds.
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i'd suggest is looking at putting those needed commercial kitchens into our community centers because we already have a location we already have the structure and already have some degree a kitchen thank you a workforce especially if they are involved in an apprenticeship program or if they're involved in more community jobs i think that's a very important thing to have in order and that changes through zoning
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I'd suggest is looking at putting those needed commercial kitchens into our community centers because we already have a location, we already have a structure, and we already have some degree of kitchen. Thank you. How is a workforce, especially if they are involved in an apprenticeship program or if they're involved in more community jobs, I think that's a very important thing to have in order. And that changes through zoning.
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pay for imported amendments and implodes irrigation cost in other words a lot of expense if you're going to be a farmer what do you think it will take to make farming a more successful enterprise and what could you do about that if you were elected well the first thing is there's going to be a farmer we could simplify it a lot if we would just take the definition of farmer and say it's anybody who files a schedule have on their federal tax return people get bogged down in
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pay for imported amendments and inputs, irrigation costs. In other words, it's a lot of expense if you're going to be a farmer. What do you think it will take to make farming a more successful enterprise? And what could you do about that if you were elected? Well, the first thing is who's going to be a farmer? We could simplify it a lot if we would just take the definition of a farmer and say it's anybody who files a Schedule F on their federal tax return. People get bogged down in
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conversations about how much money you have to make to be a farmer well there's no guarantee that when you take up the mantle of being a farmer that you're going to make any money at all and then if you do give it a number you must make ten thousand dollars to be a farmer people will game the system i've got a ten thousand dollars go i'm going to sell you for your ten thousand dollars land so let's not spend a lot of time making it more complicated
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conversations about how much money you have to make to be a farmer. Well, there's no guarantee that when you take up the mantle of being a farmer that you're going to make any money at all. And then if you do give it a number, you must make $10,000 to be a farmer. People will game the system. I've got a $10,000 goat. I'm going to sell you for your $10,000 lemon. So let's not spend a lot of time making it more complicated
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sleeping already the old madison containers are located all over this island and farmland and that's where your wolfers sleep and sleeping him next is where they sleep but i close my eyes and squint because i don't want to see stuff that i might have to tell somebody about but the farmers the entrepreneurs are doing what they need to do to be able to get by and get the job done thank you that's why my time is up well i think you've made your point you've made a good
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sleeping already. The old mats and containers are located all over this island on farmland and that's where your woofers sleep and sleeping hammocks is where they sleep. But I close my eyes and squint because I don't want to see stuff that I might have to tell somebody about. But the farmers, the entrepreneurs are doing what they need to do to be able to get by and get the job done. Thank you. That's why my time is up. Well, I think you've made your point. You've made a good
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the proper tory comment b f seventy was a near disaster for farmers and ranchers that lease or own barge properties we need these lands protected from ever being seen at their market value same question what would you propose for getting lower tax rates on agricultural lands were real farming and ranching is happening and part two to this question is that assuming you will be on
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The preparatory comment, BF 70 was a near disaster for farmers and ranchers that lease or own large properties. We need these lands protected from ever being seen at their market value. Same question. What would you propose for getting lower tax rates on agricultural lands where real farming and ranching is happening? And part two to this question is that assuming you will be on
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the budget and find acts committee where the budget you would look at you would look for other tax revenue to make up for lowering taxes for least real farm and ranch land i'm sorry that's somewhat since it was first proposed the first time and we were able to get it voted down and the second time it looked like we had the votes figured out i didn't show up because i knew we had the votes figured out it got voted down and then i went down the
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in the budget and finance committee where the budget you would look for other tax revenue to make up for lowering taxes for leased real farm and ranch land. I'm sorry that's so much. Since it was first proposed, the first time, and we were able to get it voted down, and the second time it looked like we had the votes figured out, I didn't show up because I knew we had the votes figured out, it got voted down. And then I went down
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third time bringing with me you know the first time i got some of my clients to come along including one who just had a knee replacement surgery the third time i think i had had my knee replacement surgery agriculture is subsidized over this entire plant the larger the agricultural operation the more subsidy there is the small rancher and farmer
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third time bringing with me you know the first time i got some of my clients to come along including one who just had a knee replacement surgery the third time i think i had had my knee replacement surgery agriculture is subsidized over this entire planet the larger the agricultural operation the more subsidy there is the small rancher and farmer
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and that's who's here in the audience tonight gets the least subsidy and you're the ones using your sweat equity and the dollars out of your pockets from your second or third jobs to support your agricultural habit so what can we do well i got tired of going to the seventh floor of the county building to give testimony i got tired of looking at my clients sitting there
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and that's who's here in the audience tonight gets the least subsidy. And you're the ones using your sweat equity and the dollars out of your pockets from your second or third jobs to support your agricultural habit. So what can we do? Well, I got tired of going to the seventh floor of the county building to give testimony. I got tired of looking at my clients sitting there
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looking at the backs of the council people except for the chair sitting way up high above everybody else and i decided at one point in a very weak moment to try and do something about until the people who sit on the council have experience in agriculture and listen to us thank you
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looking at the backs of the council people, except for the chair, sitting way up high above everybody else. And I decided at one point in a very weak moment to try and do something about it until the people who sit on the council have experience in agriculture and listen to us. Thank you.
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where in the budget mr word scuse me where in the budget would you look for other tax revenue to make up for lowering taxes for least real farm and ranch land account farmers that did not include people who are actively farming and that was the wrong thing to do when we look at what we what we can do to support our farmers i think we need to look at ag conservation ease
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Where in the budget, ah, missed a word, excuse me. Where in the budget would you look for other tax revenue to make up for lowering taxes for leased real farm and ranch land? I don't count farmers. It did not include people who are actively farming, and that was the wrong thing to do. When we look at what we can do to support our farmers, I think we need to look at ag conservation easements.
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ents where those farmers that agree and that the promise that this is what they're going to do is grow food you know that we allow them the conservation easements to help ease the burden of taxes on those specific properties whether or not they decide to build other other dwellings on it to how as themselves or their family or their workers i think that we very critically need to look at more
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where those farmers that agree and that promise that this is what they're going to do is grow food, that we allow them these conservation easements to help ease the burden of taxes on those specific properties, whether or not they decide to build other dwellings on it to house themselves or their family or their workers. I think that we very critically need to look at more
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taxes for least parmalat and real farm and ranch land absolutely look at where the visitor industry gets its funding from i would take from the visitor industry funding first because we seem to have this or members of the council seem to have this idea that that industry needs to be funded above all else and while that does bring money into our economy we cannot eat from it we can't we need to eat from our ajna and so
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taxes for leased farmland, real farm and ranch land? Absolutely look at where the visitor industry gets its funding from. I would take from the visitor industry funding first because we seem to have this or members of the council seem to have this idea that that industry needs to be funded above all else. And while that does bring money into our economy, we cannot eat from it. We need to eat from our aina.
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i believe and i absolutely would on the budget committee look at that funding first thank you well on the subject of eating food security and self sufficiency dream it could you in one minute tell us if barges of food stopped coming to maui from the mainland tomorrow how you would propose to
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I believe and I absolutely would on the budget committee look at that funding first. Thank you. Well, on the subject of eating, food security and self-sufficiency. Trinette, could you in one minute tell us if barges of food stopped coming to Maui from the mainland tomorrow, how you would propose to
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organize our food security for such a catastrophe easy question absolutely not an easy question because you know to me and i've i've looked up the definition of food security what that means is the access and availability of food for all regardless of whether or not you are economically advantage or disadvantage now mali county itself given if we were cut off from supplies by the barge right now we do not have
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organize our food security for such a catastrophe? Easy question, huh? Absolutely not an easy question because, you know, to me, and I've looked up the definition of food security, what that means is the access and availability of food for all, regardless of whether or not you are economically advantaged or disadvantaged. Now Maui County itself, given if we were cut off from supplies by the barge right now, we do not have
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enough food to last us out that week we definitely don't and furthermore those who are at a better economic advantage than others will end up getting that food there's no doubt about it you know supply drives and demand drives the market what we need to do and what i would like to do and hope is to support those small farmers those that are going to our farmers markets now and allow them the tech that they need the manpower the equipment whether
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enough food to last us out the week. We definitely don't. And furthermore, those who are at a better economic advantage than others will end up getting that food. There's no doubt about it. Supply drives and demand drives the market. What we need to do and what I would like to do and hope is to support those small farmers, those that are going to our farmers markets now, and allow them the tech that they need, the manpower, the equipment, whether
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it comes from county sources or not to help pull out that food harvest what we need and make it a community thing because if we all share we are we are in an island it is a kako thing we can we can get through it thank you thank you one minute question is about buying and eating locally if the price of local food is unattainable for the average resident how can the county partner with its farmers to ensure that they get what they need to make a
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it comes from county sources or not to help pull out that food harvest what we need and make it a community thing because if we all share we are we are in an island it is a caco thing we can we can get through it thank you Alan your one minute question is about buying and eating locally if the price of local food is unattainable for the average resident how can the county partner with its farmers to ensure that they get what they need to make a
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one minute what i can say is that you've got to have food available if you're going to eat i've got a bunch of goats if you want some gold milk or some go meat i can make that
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What I can say is that you've got to have food available if you're going to eat. I've got a bunch of goats. If you want some goat milk or some goat meat, I can make that happen.
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