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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
low level discussions.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Do they not know any smart people?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Do they not have the phone numbers of people who can elevate these discussions?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
They do, but this, they're optimizing for a different thing and they're pushing those
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
people out of those rooms.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
They're, they're optimizing for things we can't see.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
And yes, profit is there.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Nobody, nobody's questioning that, but they're also optimizing for things like political
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
control or the fact that they're doing business in Pakistan.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
And so they don't want to talk about all the things that they're going to be bending to
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
in Pakistan.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
So we're involved in a fake discussion.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
You think so?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
You think these conversations at that depth are happening inside Google?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
You don't think they have some basic metrics under user engagements?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
You're having a fake conversation with us guys.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
We know you're having a fake conversation.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I do not wish to be part of your fake conversation.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
You know how to cool, you know, these units, you know, high availability, like nobody's
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
business.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
My Gmail never goes down.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Almost.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
So you think just because they can do incredible work on the software side with infrastructure,
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
they can also deal with some of these difficult questions about human behavior, human understanding.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
You're not.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I mean, I've seen the, I've seen the developers screens that people take shots of inside of
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Google.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
And I've heard stories inside of Facebook and Apple.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
We're not, we're engaged.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
They're engaging us in the wrong conversations.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
We are not at this low level.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Here's one of my favorite questions.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Why is every piece of hardware that I purchase in tech space equipped as a listening device?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Where's my physical shutter to cover my lens?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
We had this in the 1970s, cameras that had lens caps, you know, how much would it cost
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
to have a security model pay five extra bucks?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Why is my indicator light software controlled?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Why when my camera is on, do I not see that the light is on by putting it as something
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
that cannot be bypassed?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Why have you set up my, all of my devices at some difficulty to yourselves as listening
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
devices and we don't even talk about this.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
This is, this thing is total fucking bullshit.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Well, I hope these discussions are happening about privacy.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Is there a more difficult thing you're giving them credit for?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
It's not just privacy.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
It's about social control.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
We're talking about social control.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Why do I not have controls over my own levers?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Just have a really cute UI where I can switch, I can dial things or I can at least see what
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
the algorithms are.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
You think that there is some deliberate choices being made here.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
There's emergence and there is intention.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
There are two dimensions.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
The vector does not collapse onto either axis, but the idea that anybody who suggests that
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
intention is completely absent is a child.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
That's really beautifully put and uh, like many things you've said is going to make me
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
can I turn this around slightly?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Yeah.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I sit down with you and you say that you're obsessed with my feed.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I don't even know what my feed is.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
What are you seeing that I'm not?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I was obsessively looking through your feed on Twitter because it was really enjoyable
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
because there's the Tom layer element is the humor in it.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
By the way, that feed is Eric R. Weinstein on Twitter at Eric R. Weinstein.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
No, but seriously, why?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Why did I find it enjoyable or what was I seeing?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
What are you looking for?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Why are we doing this?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
What is this podcast about?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I know you've got all these interesting people.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I'm just some guy who's sort of a podcast guest.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Sort of a podcast.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
You're not even wearing a tie.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I mean, it's not even a serious interview.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I'm searching for meaning, for happiness, for a dopamine rush, so short term, long term.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
And how are you finding your way to me?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I don't honestly know what I'm doing to reach you.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
The representing ideas which feel common sense to me and not many people are speaking.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
So it's kind of like the intellectual dark web folks, right?
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
These folks from Sam Harris to Jordan Peterson to yourself are saying things where you're
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
like saying, look, there's an elephant and he's not wearing any clothes.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
And I say, yeah, yeah, let's have more of that conversation.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
That's how I'm finding you.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I'm desperate to try to change the conversation we're having.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I'm very worried we've got an election in 2020.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I don't think we can afford four more years of a misinterpreted message, which is what
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
Donald Trump was.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
And I don't want the destruction of our institutions.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
They all seem hell bent on destroying themselves.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
So I'm trying to save theoretical physics, trying to save the New York Times, trying
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
to save our various processes.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
And I think it feels delusional to me that this is falling to a tiny group of people
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
who are willing to speak out without getting so freaked out that everything they say will
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
be misinterpreted and that their lives will be ruined through the process.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I mean, I think we're in an absolutely bananas period of time and I don't believe it should
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
fall to such a tiny number of shoulders to shoulder this way.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
So I have to ask you on the capitalism side, you mentioned that technology is killing capitalism
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
or it has effects that are unintended, well, not unintended, but not what economists would
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
predict or speak of capitalism creating.
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Eric Weinstein: Revolutionary Ideas in Science, Math, and Society | Lex Fridman Podcast #16
I just want to talk to you about in general, the effect of even then artificial intelligence
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