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Well, it is, but that’s not what injections are about
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Do you understand intuitively what an inverse function does
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Ah well... This is an unfortunate question then :/
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Yeah
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They’re in high school for gods sake
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03/25/2022 22:43:39
yeah
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03/25/2022 22:44:31
What does it do?
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03/25/2022 22:45:05
its like reversing the function
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undoing it?
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03/25/2022 22:45:22
i think the textbook mentioned like ctrl z
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03/25/2022 22:45:28
yeah so undoing
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03/25/2022 22:46:34
Yes exactly
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So what’s the inverse of x^2
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03/25/2022 22:47:15
+-sqrt(x)?
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Yep
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03/25/2022 22:47:31
Those are two functions, really
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03/25/2022 22:47:37
+sqrt x and -sqrt x
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03/25/2022 22:48:27
If x is positive, the inverse of x^2 would be +sqrt x. If x is negative, the inverse would be -sqrt x.
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03/25/2022 22:49:21
And so that’s the issue with x^2 — it has no singular inverse function that works for every number x. You have to restrict the **domain** of x^2 into “positive” or “negative” to get a single inverse function.
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03/25/2022 22:49:35
Are you following so far? This is just what the first screenshot was saying
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03/25/2022 22:50:11
yeah that makes sense
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03/25/2022 22:50:22
however the 2nd screenshot is what problem i need to tackle
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03/25/2022 22:50:26
Yes
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03/25/2022 22:52:49
So one fundamental property of inverse functions is the following: if f and g are inverse functions, when you take the output of f (which is f(x)) and put it into g, it should give you x back. In other words, g(f(x)) = x, for any number x.
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@deneese still following?
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03/25/2022 22:53:26
yeah
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03/25/2022 22:53:30
i learned that
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Ok cool
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So now onto the first question
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03/25/2022 22:55:25
alright
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Btw dude you’re not dumb - the fact that you understand this already is great
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Anyway
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03/25/2022 22:56:38
So I was thinking about the fact that 0 isn’t in the domain of f
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03/25/2022 22:57:52
okay
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03/25/2022 22:58:08
well you can't divide by 0
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So to prove that it doesn’t have an inverse, we really want to find a number in g that “should” map to 0
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But that isn’t really working
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03/25/2022 22:58:40
Hmm
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03/25/2022 22:59:30
well
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03/25/2022 22:59:35
let me get this right
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03/25/2022 22:59:49
a function has no inverse when there are 2 inputs that give the same output right
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03/25/2022 23:00:30
Yeah that works too
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03/25/2022 23:00:43
You could go that route, maybe it’ll lead to something
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03/25/2022 23:01:26
I was thinking, if f doesn’t have an inverse, there could be some number which f doesn’t map to
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03/25/2022 23:02:20
oh
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03/25/2022 23:02:25
how would i go about finding that
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03/25/2022 23:02:57
Oh wow
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03/25/2022 23:03:13
@deneese I just graphed it in Desmos
https://cdn.discordapp.c…819/IMG_6123.png
IMG_6123.png
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03/25/2022 23:04:00
Oh wait I’m stupid
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03/25/2022 23:04:06
1 and -1 both map to 0
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03/25/2022 23:04:08
That’s much easier
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Boom, you’re done
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03/25/2022 23:04:23
oh wow
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03/25/2022 23:04:27
ur right
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03/25/2022 23:05:35
You can see the “horizontal line test” checks if a function has an inverse
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03/25/2022 23:06:08
yeah
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03/25/2022 23:06:31
how do i prove it doesn't have an inverse then?
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03/25/2022 23:06:49
when the domain is set to 0 < inf
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03/25/2022 23:09:09
U mean that it does have an inverse
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03/25/2022 23:09:54
yeah sorry
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03/25/2022 23:10:11
Well you can see it passes the horizontal line test — but of course that isn’t convincing enough
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Hmm
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03/25/2022 23:10:42
Maybe we could construct the inverse function and show that it has domain R and range (0, inf)
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03/25/2022 23:10:47
Do you know what I mean by that
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03/25/2022 23:12:45
yeah we could set up so its x = y - 1/y right?
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03/25/2022 23:12:48
and then solve for y
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03/25/2022 23:15:32
i need to get this done pretty soon
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03/25/2022 23:16:25
Yeah exactly
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03/25/2022 23:16:28
Sorry I’m at dinner lol
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03/25/2022 23:16:36
Ok here’s the trick
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03/25/2022 23:16:38
Square both sides
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@deneese
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03/25/2022 23:17:16
okay
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03/25/2022 23:17:24
Tell me what you get
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03/25/2022 23:17:46
when i square x = y - 1/y?
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Yeah, both sides
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03/25/2022 23:19:23
x^2 = y^2 - 1/y^2
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03/25/2022 23:20:18
The right side isn’t quite right
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03/25/2022 23:20:25
Use FOIL
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03/25/2022 23:21:24
x^2 = (y^4-2y^2+1)/y^2
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deneese
03/25/2022 23:22:34
@abs_0
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03/25/2022 23:22:42
Yeah
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abs_0
03/25/2022 23:22:46
Distribute the y^2 to each term
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deneese
03/25/2022 23:23:22
okay
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432,216,491,983,765,500
deneese
03/25/2022 23:23:23
i got
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deneese
03/25/2022 23:23:34
x^2y^2 = y^4-2y^2+1
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03/25/2022 23:24:46
Nah
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abs_0
03/25/2022 23:24:55
I mean the 1/y^2 to each term on the right side
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03/25/2022 23:26:18
@deneese
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deneese
03/25/2022 23:27:39
how do u do that
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deneese
03/25/2022 23:27:45
idk what u get
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deneese
03/25/2022 23:27:47
@abs_0
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abs_0
03/25/2022 23:27:49
Here
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abs_0
03/25/2022 23:28:12
From this, you have $$x^2 = y^2 - 2 + \frac 1{y^2}$$
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TeXit
03/25/2022 23:28:15
**abs\_0**
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abs_0
03/25/2022 23:28:24
I divided each term on the right by the y^2
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deneese
03/25/2022 23:29:17
oh alr
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deneese
03/25/2022 23:29:20
i see
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deneese
03/25/2022 23:29:28
i thought we were multiplying
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abs_0
03/25/2022 23:30:11
You can rewrite this as $$x^2 = \left(y^2 + \frac 1{y^2}\right) -2,$$ and then substitute $x$ for the parentheses to get $$x^2 = x - 2$$
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