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πŸ‘‘ Azathoth πŸ‘‘
01/24/2022 02:31:47
C ya later
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01/24/2022 02:31:55
πŸ‘πŸ»
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01/24/2022 02:41:26
Facts lol
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01/24/2022 02:42:52
Sorry don't mind the messiness, but how do I find the volume of this?
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01/24/2022 02:43:11
what’s given?
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01/24/2022 02:43:33
rectangular pyramid
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kirby your mom
01/24/2022 02:43:45
If I remember it's lbh/3
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01/24/2022 02:44:00
Square base, two red lines at base are perpendicular to red line moving upwards.
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01/24/2022 02:44:15
Square base, length=4
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01/24/2022 02:44:24
is the height given?
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kirby your mom
01/24/2022 02:44:30
What's perpendicular to what
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01/24/2022 02:44:43
Red straight line moving upwards
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01/24/2022 02:44:49
No
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s_chanch
01/24/2022 02:44:55
impossible
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kirby your mom
01/24/2022 02:44:56
How could it form a pyramid then
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kirby your mom
01/24/2022 02:45:02
It's going straight up
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01/24/2022 02:45:03
It's not a pyramid
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s_chanch
01/24/2022 02:45:12
huh
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kirby your mom
01/24/2022 02:45:16
What
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01/24/2022 02:45:20
Yea
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01/24/2022 02:45:27
It's not meant to be a pyramid
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s_chanch
01/24/2022 02:45:27
this SERIOUSLY looks like a pyramid
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01/24/2022 02:45:36
Sorry my drawing is bad. Lol
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kirby your mom
01/24/2022 02:45:49
Is it like this?
https://cdn.discordapp.c…1594/unknown.png
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01/24/2022 02:45:56
Yeaa
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kirby your mom
01/24/2022 02:46:14
And this is all that's given?
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kirby your mom
01/24/2022 02:46:23
Not possible
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01/24/2022 02:46:26
Oh wait sorry
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01/24/2022 02:47:13
Length of square base=X Length of two diagonal lines beside straight line up=4
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kirby your mom
01/24/2022 02:48:02
Are you sure they're of the same length?
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01/24/2022 02:48:17
Which same length?
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kirby your mom
01/24/2022 02:48:22
And are you sure there are only 2 diagonals other than the straight line?
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kirby your mom
01/24/2022 02:48:29
the diagonals
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kirby your mom
01/24/2022 02:48:39
Can you give the question?
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01/24/2022 02:49:02
No. There are three diagonals. However only two of them are of equal length
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kirby your mom
01/24/2022 02:49:13
Ah ok
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01/24/2022 02:49:17
It's a random thought
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kirby your mom
01/24/2022 02:49:19
Yeah that makes sense
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01/24/2022 02:49:37
Ye sry
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01/24/2022 02:49:50
Just realised if three diagonals are equal, it wldnt make sense
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01/24/2022 02:50:06
Do not that the length of square base is unkown
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01/24/2022 02:51:12
So..any idea?
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kirby your mom
01/24/2022 02:51:22
I don't think that's possible then
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Hyperlix
01/24/2022 03:02:15
can you use the quadratic formula for this?
https://cdn.discordapp.c…8939/unknown.png
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Ann
01/24/2022 03:04:17
if you know what you're doing and how to properly apply the output of the quadratic formula, then yes.
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Hyperlix
01/24/2022 03:05:31
I thought you could only use it with equations
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Ann
01/24/2022 03:06:23
you can find the solutions of x^2 + 5x - 6 = 0, and doing so can help you solve the inequality.
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Hyperlix
01/24/2022 03:07:32
alright
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Hyperlix
01/24/2022 03:07:33
thanks
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01/24/2022 03:07:38
.close
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Subhamoy Mandal
01/24/2022 03:14:41
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01/24/2022 03:50:14
https://cdn.discordapp.c…20124_084946.jpg
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Calzs
01/24/2022 03:50:19
How would you solve this for g? I believe the only way is to list out the sums
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Calzs
01/24/2022 03:51:29
The LHS is just a number btw as we know x
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Calzs
01/24/2022 04:13:42
g is a constant to be solved if that helps
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Calzs
01/24/2022 04:13:54
y and x are known
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Calzs
01/24/2022 06:13:48
No, perhaps @Helpers can confirm I need to use an optimisation process to solve this?
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Calzs
01/24/2022 06:13:57
I don't think it can be solved otherwise
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themateo713
01/24/2022 13:31:30
perhaps there are tricks I don't know of, but I think this can be rewritten as a degree 13 polynomial in e^g = 0, so you'd need to use a computer anyways
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riemann
01/24/2022 13:47:01
What do all the variables mean and do you know them?
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themateo713
01/24/2022 13:47:43
I think he did say all other variables were known
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01/24/2022 13:50:13
x is just a number, the LHS is meant to be xr
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Calzs
01/24/2022 13:50:35
So x1 could be 10, x2 17 and so on.
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Calzs
01/24/2022 13:50:45
y is the same.
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Calzs
01/24/2022 13:51:05
Oh wow I've only solved degree 5s.
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Calzs
01/24/2022 13:51:20
How would I write it as a degree 13 polynomial?
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Calzs
01/24/2022 13:51:40
As I'm either going to use an algo with like 1000 iterations to solve it by getting as close as possible
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riemann
01/24/2022 13:57:00
what about t_{NP} ?
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Calzs
01/24/2022 14:02:07
That is a defined variable as well
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Calzs
01/24/2022 14:02:31
I have to calculate them all separately, but they are known
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Ansh_
01/24/2022 15:50:06
can you like send the full info about all the variables used in there?
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Ansh_
01/24/2022 15:50:22
or maybe the complete question ...
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Calzs
01/24/2022 15:51:58
Well the question I made myself as I'm trying to solve a problem, but I can send info on the variables sure
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Calzs
01/24/2022 16:13:33
https://cdn.discordapp.c…9470/unknown.png
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Calzs
01/24/2022 16:13:41
Hopefully that is helpful
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01/24/2022 16:13:58
@Ansh_
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riemann
01/24/2022 16:24:30
Is this just algebra to simplify and solve for g?
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Calzs
01/24/2022 18:03:08
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Calzs
01/24/2022 18:04:06
Not sure what happened, but I don't think you can use algebra to rearrange for g because there are 13 different terms with e^g, but perhaps there is a method
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themateo713
01/24/2022 18:26:43
@Calzs As i've said, you can rearrange this. Do + 1 - 1 to each numerator to rewrite them as 1 - 1 / (1 + a_r e^g). Then you have a sum of 13 fractions like that, and you can multiply by the product of the denominators to turn each of them into a degree 12 polynomial. This turns the LHS into a degree 13 polynomial, so ...
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themateo713
01/24/2022 18:27:33
Then you just let the computer find the roots and deduce the values of g
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Calzs
01/24/2022 19:11:10
Hmm I sort of see what you're saying, let me try write it out tomorrow. Thank you for persevering and re explaining to me
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riemann
01/24/2022 19:58:27
or also maybe if `g` is small, just taylor series `e^g` and geometric series `1/(e^g + 1)`
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Calzs
01/24/2022 20:04:15
g is on the log odds space so will be less than 1, but not sure what you define as "small"
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riemann
01/24/2022 20:05:23
it's up to you how accurate you need your solutions.
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riemann
01/24/2022 20:05:37
the smaller the value of g, the fewer terms you need in the taylor expansion
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Calzs
01/24/2022 20:06:09
I think accurate to 8 decimal places is good enough
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Calzs
01/24/2022 20:06:17
But I may have to settle for less
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riemann
01/24/2022 20:07:17
hmmm in that case just go with what mateo said
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Calzs
01/24/2022 20:09:15
Ok thanks. Are you able to explain his + 1 and - 1 to the numerator to flip the equation to only have 1 term of e^g?
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Calzs
01/24/2022 20:09:29
I think I've done it before but I'm confused a bit on the steps
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Calzs
01/24/2022 20:10:42
It's like if I take a simple example of: a/(a+1) I believe he is saying: a/(a+1) = (a+1-1)/(a+1) Which you can rearrange to: (a+1)/(a+1) - 1/(a+1) 1 - 1/(a+1)
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Calzs
01/24/2022 20:10:52
Sorry for not using latex, am on phone
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riemann
01/24/2022 20:37:46
that's fine i can read it
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riemann
01/24/2022 20:38:18
yea here `a = e^g`
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Handsome Bro
01/25/2022 05:58:35
\fraction{x (x+1)^{1/2}-(x+1)^{-1/2}}{x^{2}}
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Handsome Bro
01/25/2022 05:59:03
Wait, how should I use this function? πŸ˜…
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