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(SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, "BOBBY JONES GOSPEL") | (soundbite. of tv show "bobby jones | (SOUNDBITE, OF TV SHOW "BOBBY JONES | (soundbite of tv show, "bobby jones gospel") |
UNIDENTIFIED SINGER #1: (Singing) You know, I want to go... | unidentified singer #1: (singing) you, know i want to | UNIDENTIFIED, SINGER #1: (Singing) You know I want to | unidentified singer #1: (singing) you know, i want to go... |
UNIDENTIFIED SINGER #2: (Singing) One day. | unidentified singer #2: (singing) one, | UNIDENTIFIED SINGER #2: (Singing) One | unidentified singer #2: (singing) one day. |
UNIDENTIFIED SINGER #1: (Singing) ...To a city so bright and (unintelligible). | unidentified singer #1: (singing) ...to a city so bright and | UNIDENTIFIED SINGER #1: (Singing) ...To a city so. bright and. | unidentified singer #1: (singing) ...to a city so bright and (unintelligible). |
Pastors with tardy congregations may have griped, but gospel record labels saw a chance to get their budding artists in the spotlight. When Yolanda Adams made her first appearance, she was still splitting her time between teaching school and performing. | pastors with tardy. congregations may have griped but gospel record labels saw a chance to get their budding artists in the spotlight. when; yolanda adams made her first appearance she was still splitting her time between teaching school and | Pastors. with tardy congregations may have griped but gospel record labels; saw a chance to get their budding artists in the spotlight, When Yolanda Adams made her first appearance she was still splitting her, time between teaching school and | pastors with tardy congregations may have griped, but gospel record labels saw a chance to get their budding artists in the spotlight. when yolanda adams made her first appearance, she was still splitting her time between teaching school and performing. |
You had your "Soul Trains." You had "American Bandstand" still. You had all of these other outlets for different genres except for ours. | you; had your "soul trains" you had "american, bandstand" still you had all, of these other outlets, for different genres except for | You had your "Soul Trains" You had "American Bandstand" still You had, all of these, other outlets for different genres except for | you had your "soul trains." you had "american bandstand" still. you had all of these other outlets for different genres except for ours. |
The exposure "Bobby Jones Gospel" provided was especially important to cutting-edge artists like Adams, who was blending gospel with smooth jazz and contemporary R&B. | the exposure "bobby jones gospel" provided was especially important to cutting-edge artists like adams; who was blending gospel with smooth jazz and contemporary | The; exposure "Bobby Jones Gospel" provided was, especially important to cutting-edge artists like. Adams who was blending gospel with smooth jazz and contemporary | the exposure "bobby jones gospel" provided was especially important to cutting-edge artists like adams, who was blending gospel with smooth jazz and contemporary r&b. |
(SOUNDBITE OF YOLANDA ADAMS SONG, "MY EVERYTHING") | (soundbite, of yolanda adams song. "my, | (SOUNDBITE OF YOLANDA ADAMS SONG "MY | (soundbite of yolanda adams song, "my everything") |
He didn't just give me the platform. He also validated what I was doing. | he didn't just give me the platform he also validated what i was | He didn't just give me the platform He. also validated what I was | he didn't just give me the platform. he also validated what i was doing. |
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "MY EVERYTHING") | (soundbite of song "my | (SOUNDBITE; OF SONG "MY | (soundbite of song, "my everything") |
(Singing) Lord, I just want to say I love you. You deserve my praise throughout my days. | (singing) lord i just want to say. i love you you deserve my praise throughout. my | (Singing) Lord I just want. to say I. love you. You deserve, my praise; throughout my | (singing) lord, i just want to say i love you. you deserve my praise throughout my days. |
I really have to thank him for allowing me to just be me on television. He never said, you know, you need to change your look. He never said you need to, you know, calm your jazz stuff down because no one was doing that at the time. | i really have to thank him for allowing me to just be me on television he never said you know, you need to change your look he never said you need to you know calm your jazz stuff down because no, one was. doing, that at the | I really have to thank him for allowing me to, just be me on television He never said you know you need to. change your look. He never said you need to, you know calm your jazz stuff down because no, one was doing that at the | i really have to thank him for allowing me to just be me on television. he never said, you know, you need to change your look. he never said you need to, you know, calm your jazz stuff down because no one was doing that at the time. |
People all over the country first saw Kirk Franklin merge gospel and hip-hop on TV thanks to Jones. | people all over the country first saw kirk; franklin merge gospel and hip-hop on, tv thanks to | People all over the country first saw Kirk Franklin merge gospel and hip-hop on TV thanks to | people all over the country first saw kirk franklin merge gospel and hip-hop on tv thanks to jones. |
Every time we would tape shows, we'd have an overabundance of people who wanted to do it, of course. And so on this particular night, this lady had brought him to do the show and had not called to get him on the show. And the show was full, and she says, please, let him come on. Please let him come on. | every time we would tape shows we'd have an overabundance of people who wanted to do it of course and so on this particular night this lady had brought him to do the show and had not called to get him on the show and the show was full and she says please let him come on please let him come | Every time we would tape shows we'd have an overabundance of people who wanted to do it of course And so on this particular night this lady, had brought him to do the show and had not called to get him on the show And the. show was full and she says please let him come on Please let him come | every time we would tape shows, we'd have an overabundance of people who wanted to do it, of course. and so on this particular night, this lady had brought him to do the show and had not called to get him on the show. and the show was full, and she says, please, let him come on. please let him come on. |
Jones relented, and Franklin was a hit, returning many times as his popularity ballooned. Whether they were total newbies, established stars or gospel elders, Jones welcomed all of his guests with a demeanor that was equally dignified and downhome. | jones relented, and franklin was a hit returning, many times as his popularity ballooned whether they were total newbies established stars or gospel elders jones welcomed all of his guests with a demeanor that was equally dignified and | Jones relented and Franklin was a hit returning many times as his, popularity ballooned. Whether they, were total, newbies established stars. or gospel elders Jones welcomed all of his guests with a demeanor. that was equally dignified. and | jones relented, and franklin was a hit, returning many times as his popularity ballooned. whether they were total newbies, established stars or gospel elders, jones welcomed all of his guests with a demeanor that was equally dignified and downhome. |
(SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, "BOBBY JONES GOSPEL") | (soundbite of tv show "bobby jones | (SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW "BOBBY JONES | (soundbite of tv show, "bobby jones gospel") |
You are a pioneer. When the history of gospel music is written over and over and over, I want to let you know that this lady is certainly a mammoth part of that industry. Praise God for you. | you are a pioneer when the history. of gospel music is written over and over and, over i want to let you; know that this, lady is certainly a mammoth part of that industry praise god for | You are a pioneer When the history of gospel music; is written over and, over and. over I want to let you know, that this lady is certainly, a mammoth part of. that industry Praise. God for | you are a pioneer. when the history of gospel music is written over and over and over, i want to let you know that this lady is certainly a mammoth part of that industry. praise god for you. |
Jones invited Albertina Walker onto the show late in her career. And Regina McCrary was glad to see Walker get the attention she deserved. | jones invited albertina walker onto the show late in her career and regina mccrary was glad to see walker get. the attention she | Jones invited Albertina. Walker onto the show late in her career And Regina McCrary was glad to see Walker get, the attention she | jones invited albertina walker onto the show late in her career. and regina mccrary was glad to see walker get the attention she deserved. |
She left this Earth knowing that she was important, and she had a legacy. You know, he brought her on the "Bobby Jones Gospel" show, and her career picked back up again. | she left this earth knowing that she was important and she had a legacy you know he brought her on the "bobby jones gospel" show and her career picked back up | She left this Earth knowing that she; was important, and she had a. legacy You know he brought her on the "Bobby Jones Gospel" show and her career picked back up | she left this earth knowing that she was important, and she had a legacy. you know, he brought her on the "bobby jones gospel" show, and her career picked back up again. |
Despite the show's own legacy, BET announced it was coming to an end in 2015. Fans signed a petition pleading with the network to keep Bobby Jones on the air. | despite the show's own. legacy, bet announced it was coming to an end in 2015. fans signed a, petition pleading with the network to keep bobby jones, on the | Despite the show's, own legacy BET announced, it was coming, to, an end in 2015. Fans signed a petition pleading with the network to, keep Bobby Jones on the | despite the show's own legacy, bet announced it was coming to an end in 2015. fans signed a petition pleading with the network to keep bobby jones on the air. |
Some people thought they got rid of the show. They didn't get rid of it. I'm the one that retired from it after 35 years. That's what - I'm getting older now, and I want to give somebody else a chance to do that. I've had it for 35 years, and it was just as simple as that. But in the same time, I didn't really want to. | some people thought they got; rid, of the show they didn't get rid of it i'm the one that retired from it after 35 years that's what - i'm getting older now and i want to give somebody else, a chance to. do that i've had it for 35 years, and it was just as; simple, as that but in the same time i didn't really want | Some people thought they got rid of the show, They didn't get rid of it I'm the one that retired from it after 35 years That's what - I'm getting older now and I want to give somebody else a chance to do that I've had it for 35 years and, it was just as. simple as that But in the same time I didn't really want | some people thought they got rid of the show. they didn't get rid of it. i'm the one that retired from it after 35 years. that's what - i'm getting older now, and i want to give somebody else a chance to do that. i've had it for 35 years, and it was just as simple as that. but in the same time, i didn't really want to. |
So Jones is doing a weekly radio countdown and produces monthly cable TV shows for the IMPACT Network. At a recent taping, he primed the audience before the cameras started rolling. | so jones is doing, a weekly radio countdown and produces monthly cable tv shows for; the impact network at a recent taping he, primed the audience before the cameras started | So Jones is doing; a weekly radio countdown and produces monthly. cable TV shows for. the IMPACT Network; At a recent taping he primed the audience before the cameras started | so jones is doing a weekly radio countdown and produces monthly cable tv shows for the impact network. at a recent taping, he primed the audience before the cameras started rolling. |
Any shouters in the house? | any shouters in the | Any shouters in the | any shouters in the house? |
Yes. | yes. | ||
Over here - how about over here. | over here, - how about over | Over here - how about over | over here - how about over here. |
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
All right. Now, what I want you to do - I want you to be all - I want you to be all churchy churchy today, all right? This is a television show, and I don't want you to sit and just look. So I want you up and clapping when it's appropriate. It's gospel. | all right now, what i want you to do - i want you to be, all - i want you to be all churchy churchy today all right? this is a television show and i don't want you; to sit and; just look so. i want you up and clapping when it's appropriate it's | All right Now what I want you to do - I want you to, be all - I want you to be; all churchy churchy; today all right? This, is a. television show and I don't want you to sit, and just look So I want you up, and. clapping when it's appropriate It's | all right. now, what i want you to do - i want you to be all - i want you to be all churchy churchy today, all right? this is a television show, and i don't want you to sit and just look. so i want you up and clapping when it's appropriate. it's gospel. |
Jones is back to being as hands-on as he was in the early days. | jones is back to being as, hands-on, as he was in the early | Jones is, back to being as hands-on as he was in the early | jones is back to being as hands-on as he was in the early days. |
So this is all volunteer, me as well. Yeah, it's full circle. And I kind of welcome it because it gives me a chance to go back over what started it. | so this is all volunteer, me as well yeah it's full circle and i. kind of welcome it because it gives me a chance to go back over what started | So this is all volunteer me. as well Yeah. it's full circle And I kind of welcome it because it. gives me a chance to go back over what started | so this is all volunteer, me as well. yeah, it's full circle. and i kind of welcome it because it gives me a chance to go back over what started it. |
Which was the drive and poise to get in front of the camera and take gospel music to the world. For NPR News, I'm Jewly Hight in Nashville. | which was the, drive and. poise to get in front of the camera and take gospel music to the world for npr news i'm jewly hight in | Which was the drive and poise to get in front of the camera and. take gospel music to the world For NPR News, I'm Jewly Hight in | which was the drive and poise to get in front of the camera and take gospel music to the world. for npr news, i'm jewly hight in nashville. |
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "PRAISE THE LORD") | (soundbite of song "praise the | (SOUNDBITE OF SONG. "PRAISE THE | (soundbite of song, "praise the lord") |
(Singing) From the rising of the sun. | (singing) from the rising of the, | (Singing) From the rising of; the | (singing) from the rising of the sun. |
We're following more sexual misconduct allegations against powerful men this morning. The latest is Roy Moore, the Republican candidate for a Senate seat in Alabama. A woman told The Washington Post that Moore initiated a sexual encounter with her almost 40 years ago, when she was just 14 years old. | we're following more sexual misconduct allegations against powerful men this morning the latest is roy moore the republican candidate for. a senate. seat in alabama a woman told the washington post that. moore initiated a sexual encounter with her almost 40 years ago when she was just 14 years | We're following more sexual misconduct allegations against powerful men this morning The latest, is Roy Moore the, Republican candidate for a Senate seat in Alabama A woman, told The Washington Post; that Moore initiated a sexual, encounter with her almost 40 years ago when she was just 14 years | we're following more sexual misconduct allegations against powerful men this morning. the latest is roy moore, the republican candidate for a senate seat in alabama. a woman told the washington post that moore initiated a sexual encounter with her almost 40 years ago, when she was just 14 years old. |
In the entertainment industry, one of the country's top comedians Louis C.K. has been accused by several women of exposing himself to them in incidents dating back over a decade. Amid all these allegations, from Harvey Weinstein to NPR's own former top editor, women are wrestling with a question - how should they respo... | in the entertainment industry one of the country's top; comedians louis. c.k has been accused by several women; of exposing himself, to them in incidents dating back over a decade amid. all, these allegations from harvey weinstein to npr's own former top editor women are wrestling with a question. - how should they. re... | In the entertainment industry one of. the country's top comedians Louis C.K has been accused by several women of; exposing himself to them in incidents dating back over a decade Amid all these allegations from Harvey Weinstein to NPR's own former top editor women are wrestling, with a question - how should they respond... | in the entertainment industry, one of the country's top comedians louis c.k. has been accused by several women of exposing himself to them in incidents dating back over a decade. amid all these allegations, from harvey weinstein to npr's own former top editor, women are wrestling with a question - how should they respo... |
(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING) | (soundbite of archived | (SOUNDBITE OF. ARCHIVED | (soundbite of archived recording) |
When I've spoken in anger, I usually regret the way I express myself. So I've been waiting to feel less angry. | when i've spoken in anger i usually regret the. way i express myself so i've been waiting to feel less | When I've spoken in anger I usually regret the, way I express myself So I've been waiting to feel, less | when i've spoken in anger, i usually regret the way i express myself. so i've been waiting to feel less angry. |
But is anger so wrong in this moment? Writer Lindy West says no. I asked her what she made of Thurman's response. | but is. anger. so wrong in this moment? writer lindy west says, no i asked her what she made of thurman's | But is anger so wrong in this. moment? Writer Lindy West. says. no I asked. her what she made of Thurman's | but is anger so wrong in this moment? writer lindy west says no. i asked her what she made of thurman's response. |
What did you hear in that clip from Uma Thurman? | what did you hear in that clip from uma | What did you hear in that clip from Uma | what did you hear in that clip from uma thurman? |
You hear a really deep, relatable anger. And what she says is that she is not ready to speak because she knows that when she has spoken in anger in the past, it hasn't been well received and it's been, you know, punished in some way or another. | you hear a really deep. relatable anger and what she says is that she, is not ready to speak because she. knows that. when she has spoken in anger in the past it hasn't been well received and, it's been you know punished in some way or | You hear a really deep relatable anger And, what she says is that she is not ready to speak because she knows that when she has spoken in anger in the past it hasn't been, well received and it's been. you know punished in some way or. | you hear a really deep, relatable anger. and what she says is that she is not ready to speak because she knows that when she has spoken in anger in the past, it hasn't been well received and it's been, you know, punished in some way or another. |
How has women's outrage - or lack thereof - how has that factored into how this whole moment has unfolded when it comes to sexual harassment, sexual assault, and how it's perceived? | how has women's outrage - or lack thereof - how has that factored into how. this whole moment has unfolded when it comes to sexual harassment sexual assault and how it's | How has women's. outrage - or, lack thereof - how has that factored into how, this whole moment, has unfolded when it comes to sexual harassment sexual assault and how it's | how has women's outrage - or lack thereof - how has that factored into how this whole moment has unfolded when it comes to sexual harassment, sexual assault, and how it's perceived? |
But lack of cash is only part of what's been dogging the green energy business. The recession has hurt in unintended ways. For example, the government already gives sizable tax credits to solar developers. But Arno Harris, CEO of the solar company Recurrent Energy, said that's not helping a lot nowadays. | but lack of cash is only part, of what's been. dogging the green energy business the recession has, hurt in, unintended ways for example the; government already gives sizable tax credits to, solar developers but arno, harris ceo of. the solar, company recurrent energy said that's not helping a lot | But, lack of cash is only part of what's been dogging the green energy business The recession has hurt in, unintended ways For example the government. already gives sizable tax credits to solar developers But Arno Harris CEO of the solar company Recurrent Energy said that's not helping, a. lot | but lack of cash is only part of what's been dogging the green energy business. the recession has hurt in unintended ways. for example, the government already gives sizable tax credits to solar developers. but arno harris, ceo of the solar company recurrent energy, said that's not helping a lot nowadays. |
The challenge is that most developers don't have large tax bills and thus, they can't use the tax credits themselves. As a result, in order to finance the projects, they have to go find a bank or other partner with a large tax bill, and basically put together a financing partnership. | the challenge is that most, developers don't have large, tax. bills and thus they can't, use the tax credits themselves as a result in order to finance the projects they have to go find a bank or other partner with a large tax bill and basically put together. a financing | The challenge is that most developers don't have large tax bills and thus they can't use the tax credits themselves As a result in order to finance the projects they have to, go find a bank or other partner. with; a large tax bill and basically put together a financing | the challenge is that most developers don't have large tax bills and thus, they can't use the tax credits themselves. as a result, in order to finance the projects, they have to go find a bank or other partner with a large tax bill, and basically put together a financing partnership. |
That worked OK until the recession hit. Now, a lot of banks aren't as interested in a solar energy tax write-off as they used to be. | that worked ok until the recession hit now a lot of banks aren't as interested in a solar, energy tax write-off as they used, to | That worked OK until the recession; hit. Now a lot of banks aren't as interested in a solar, energy tax write-off as they used to | that worked ok until the recession hit. now, a lot of banks aren't as interested in a solar energy tax write-off as they used to be. |
If you're a big bank and you just lost many billions of dollars and you're not looking at a big tax bill at the end of the year, it doesn't make sense to invest in tax credits. | if you're. a big bank and you, just lost many billions of; dollars and you're, not looking at a big tax bill at the, end of the year it doesn't make sense; to. invest in tax | If you're a big, bank and you just lost many billions of dollars; and you're not looking at a, big tax bill at the end of the year it doesn't make sense to invest in, tax | if you're a big bank and you just lost many billions of dollars and you're not looking at a big tax bill at the end of the year, it doesn't make sense to invest in tax credits. |
Harris says language in the new energy plan proposes to shift money straight to energy developers. Another problem in the past - one type of energy tax credit expired every year and had to be renewed by Congress. Investors couldn't plan ahead. Chris Fox is an analyst with Ceres, a green investment network. | harris says language in the new energy plan, proposes to shift money straight to energy developers another problem in, the past - one type of energy tax credit expired every year and had to be renewed by congress investors. couldn't plan ahead. chris fox is an analyst with, ceres. a green investment | Harris says language in the new energy plan proposes to shift money straight to energy developers Another problem in the past - one type of energy tax credit expired. every year and had. to be renewed by Congress Investors couldn't plan ahead Chris Fox is an analyst with Ceres, a green investment | harris says language in the new energy plan proposes to shift money straight to energy developers. another problem in the past - one type of energy tax credit expired every year and had to be renewed by congress. investors couldn't plan ahead. chris fox is an analyst with ceres, a green investment network. |
That creates a boom-and-bust kind of environment which, as you can imagine, it makes it difficult to scale these projects up when there's a start and stop. | that creates a boom-and-bust kind of environment which as you can imagine it makes it difficult to, scale these projects up when there's a start and | That creates a boom-and-bust kind of environment which as you can imagine it makes it difficult to scale these projects up when there's a start, and | that creates a boom-and-bust kind of environment which, as you can imagine, it makes it difficult to scale these projects up when there's a start and stop. |
Congress is considering language in its bill that would keep this tax- credit provision but extend it for up to three years, which Fox says will encourage more private investment. Energy experts say spending cash now to weatherize homes and changing tax rules should work fast to stimulate the economy. But other provisi... | congress is considering language in, its bill that would keep this tax- credit provision but extend it for up to three years which fox; says will encourage more private investment energy experts say spending cash. now, to weatherize homes and changing tax rules should work fast to stimulate the economy but other provis... | Congress is considering; language in its bill that would keep this tax- credit provision but extend it for up to three years which Fox says will encourage more private investment Energy experts say spending cash now to weatherize homes; and changing tax rules should work fast to stimulate. the economy But other provisi... | congress is considering language in its bill that would keep this tax- credit provision but extend it for up to three years, which fox says will encourage more private investment. energy experts say spending cash now to weatherize homes and changing tax rules should work fast to stimulate the economy. but other provisi... |
Investors would like to see movement toward a carbon price, a mandatory national policy to reduce greenhouse gas emissions economy-wide. | investors would like to see movement; toward; a carbon price, a mandatory national policy to reduce greenhouse gas emissions | Investors, would, like to see, movement toward a carbon price a mandatory national policy, to reduce greenhouse gas emissions | investors would like to see movement toward a carbon price, a mandatory national policy to reduce greenhouse gas emissions economy-wide. |
Congress is expected to debate a price on carbon later this year. Christopher Joyce, NPR News. | congress, is expected to debate a. price on carbon later this year christopher joyce npr, | Congress is expected to debate a price on; carbon later. this year Christopher Joyce NPR | congress is expected to debate a price on carbon later this year. christopher joyce, npr news. |
We're back with ALL THINGS CONSIDERED from NPR News. I'm Guy Raz. | we're back with all things considered from npr news i'm guy | We're back with ALL THINGS CONSIDERED from NPR News I'm Guy. | we're back with all things considered from npr news. i'm guy raz. |
(Soundbite of song, "The Battle Hymn of the Republic") | (soundbite of song "the battle hymn of; the | (Soundbite of song "The Battle Hymn of the | (soundbite of song, "the battle hymn of the republic") |
(Singing) ...seen the glory of the coming of the Lord... | (singing) ...seen the glory of; the, coming of the | (Singing) ...seen the glory of the coming of the | (singing) ...seen the glory of the coming of the lord... |
As you'll no doubt hear over the next year, 2011 marks 150 years since the start of the Civil War, and there is no song that more closely evokes that fight than "The Battle Hymn of the Republic." Julia Ward Howe wrote those famous words, mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord, in 1861. And since then, ... | as you'll no doubt hear over the, next year 2011 marks 150 years since the start of the civil war and there is no song that more, closely evokes. that fight than "the battle hymn of the republic" julia ward howe wrote those famous, words mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the lord in 1861. and since then th... | As you'll no doubt hear over. the next year 2011 marks 150 years since the. start of the Civil, War and there is no song that more closely evokes. that fight than "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" Julia Ward, Howe wrote those famous words mine eyes have seen the glory. of the coming of the Lord in 1861. And since then ... | as you'll no doubt hear over the next year, 2011 marks 150 years since the start of the civil war, and there is no song that more closely evokes that fight than "the battle hymn of the republic." julia ward howe wrote those famous words, mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the lord, in 1861. and since then, ... |
Dominic Tierney talks about the history of the song, the Elvis and the Judy Garland versions, for example, in a new issue of The Atlantic, which, incidentally, is where it was originally published in 1862. | dominic tierney talks about the history of, the song the elvis and the judy garland versions for example in a new issue of the atlantic which incidentally is where it was originally published in | Dominic Tierney talks about the history of the song the. Elvis and the Judy Garland versions for example in a new issue of The Atlantic which incidentally is where it was originally published in | dominic tierney talks about the history of the song, the elvis and the judy garland versions, for example, in a new issue of the atlantic, which, incidentally, is where it was originally published in 1862. |
Dominic, welcome to the program. | dominic welcome to the | Dominic, welcome to the | dominic, welcome to the program. |
Hi, how are you doing? Thanks for having me. | hi how are you doing? thanks for having | Hi how are. you doing? Thanks for having | hi, how are you doing? thanks for having me. |
Was this meant to be a song specifically for the Union's cause during the Civil War? | was this, meant to be a, song specifically for the. union's cause during the civil | Was. this meant to be a song, specifically for the Union's cause during the Civil | was this meant to be a song specifically for the union's cause during the civil war? |
Well, yes and no. Of course, as you probably know, the song began actually as a campfire spiritual back in the 1850s called "Say, Brothers, Will You Meet Us." And then even in these days before the Internet, it went viral and turned into a song called "John Brown's Body." | well yes and no of course as you probably know the song began actually as. a campfire spiritual back in the; 1850s called "say brothers will you meet us" and then even in these days before the internet it went viral and turned into a song called "john brown's | Well yes and no Of course as you probably. know the song. began actually as a campfire spiritual back in the 1850s called "Say Brothers Will You Meet Us" And, then even in these days before the Internet, it went viral and turned; into a song. called "John Brown's | well, yes and no. of course, as you probably know, the song began actually as a campfire spiritual back in the 1850s called "say, brothers, will you meet us." and then even in these days before the internet, it went viral and turned into a song called "john brown's body." |
And this was partly about the famous John Brown, the antislavery terrorist, but it was also about a regular soldier in the Union army who happened to share the same name as John Brown. And in 1861, Julia Ward Howe, who was an abolitionist and a poet, was visiting troops near Washington, D.C. and the party was bored in ... | and this was partly about the famous john brown the, antislavery terrorist but it was also about a regular soldier in. the union army who happened. to share the same; name as john brown and in 1861, julia ward howe who was an abolitionist and a poet was visiting troops near washington, d.c and the party was bored. in t... | And this was partly about the; famous John Brown the, antislavery terrorist but it was also about a regular soldier. in the Union army who happened to share the same name as John Brown And in 1861, Julia Ward Howe who was an abolitionist and a, poet was visiting troops near Washington D.C and the party was. bored in th... | and this was partly about the famous john brown, the antislavery terrorist, but it was also about a regular soldier in the union army who happened to share the same name as john brown. and in 1861, julia ward howe, who was an abolitionist and a poet, was visiting troops near washington, d.c. and the party was bored in ... |
And one of the members of the party, a reverend, liked the tune but felt that the lyrics were a little unelevated. For example, one of the lyrics went: We'll hang ole Jeff Davis from a sour apple tree. So, he wondered if how could he craft something a little more fitting. And that night, Howe went to sleep and when she... | and one of the members of the party a reverend, liked the tune but felt that the lyrics were a little unelevated for, example one of the lyrics went: we'll. hang ole jeff davis from a sour apple tree so he wondered if how could he craft something a, little more fitting and that night howe went to sleep; and when she wo... | And one of the members of the party a reverend liked the tune but, felt that. the lyrics were a little unelevated For example one of the lyrics went: We'll hang ole Jeff Davis from a sour apple tree So he wondered if how could he craft something a little more fitting And that night Howe went to sleep and when she woke ... | and one of the members of the party, a reverend, liked the tune but felt that the lyrics were a little unelevated. for example, one of the lyrics went: we'll hang ole jeff davis from a sour apple tree. so, he wondered if how could he craft something a little more fitting. and that night, howe went to sleep and when she... |
And so she jumped out of bed and scribbled them down. And the Atlantic Monthly, as you said, ended up paying Howe $5 and publishing the poem in 1862, giving it a title "The Battle Hymn of the Republic." And it's quite clearly about the Civil War but it's also a timeless song that speaks much more broadly to great theme... | and so she jumped out of bed and scribbled them. down and the atlantic monthly as you said ended up paying howe $5 and publishing the poem in 1862, giving it, a title "the battle hymn of the republic" and it's quite clearly about the civil war but it's also a timeless, song that speaks much more broadly to great themes... | And so she jumped out of bed. and scribbled them, down And the Atlantic Monthly as you said ended up paying Howe $5 and publishing the poem in 1862, giving it a, title; "The Battle Hymn, of. the Republic" And it's quite. clearly about the Civil, War but it's also a timeless song that speaks much. more broadly to great ... | and so she jumped out of bed and scribbled them down. and the atlantic monthly, as you said, ended up paying howe $5 and publishing the poem in 1862, giving it a title "the battle hymn of the republic." and it's quite clearly about the civil war but it's also a timeless song that speaks much more broadly to great theme... |
I'm going to ask you about that. But first, I'm going to play a few versions that we've actually found. This is Judy Garland appearing on CBS. I think it's 1963. | i'm going to ask you about. that but, first i'm going to play a few versions that we've actually found this, is judy garland appearing on cbs i think it's | I'm going to ask you about that But first I'm going to play a. few versions; that we've actually found This is; Judy Garland appearing, on, CBS I think it's | i'm going to ask you about that. but first, i'm going to play a few versions that we've actually found. this is judy garland appearing on cbs. i think it's 1963. |
One of the greatest songs that was ever written is very seldom done on television, and I would like to sing that song for you tonight. | one of the greatest songs that was; ever, written is, very seldom done on. television and i would like to sing that song for you | One. of the, greatest songs that was ever written is very seldom done on television and I would. like to sing that song. for you | one of the greatest songs that was ever written is very seldom done on television, and i would like to sing that song for you tonight. |
(Soundbite of song, "The Battle Hymn of the Republic") | (soundbite of song "the battle hymn of the | (Soundbite of song "The Battle Hymn; of the. | (soundbite of song, "the battle hymn of the republic") |
(Singing) Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord. He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored. Glory, glory, hallelujah... | (singing) mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the lord he is trampling out the. vintage where the grapes of wrath. are stored glory glory | (Singing) Mine, eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord He is. trampling out the vintage where; the grapes, of wrath are stored Glory glory | (singing) mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the lord. he is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored. glory, glory, hallelujah... |
That is a glorious glory there. She was also trying to make a political point, right? | that, is a glorious glory there she was also trying to make a political point | That is a. glorious glory there She was, also trying to. make a, political point | that is a glorious glory there. she was also trying to make a political point, right? |
Right, exactly. The "Battle Hymn" is actually bound up with all three of the great assassinations of the 1960s. Martin Luther King's final words in public came from the "Battle Hymn." | right exactly the "battle hymn" is actually bound up with all. three of the. great assassinations of the 1960s. martin luther. king's final words in public came from the "battle | Right, exactly The "Battle Hymn" is actually. bound up, with all three of. the great. assassinations. of the 1960s Martin Luther King's final words in public came from the "Battle | right, exactly. the "battle hymn" is actually bound up with all three of the great assassinations of the 1960s. martin luther king's final words in public came from the "battle hymn." |
Dr. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. (Civil Rights Activist): I'm not worried about anything; I'm not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord. | dr martin, luther king jr (civil rights activist): i'm not worried about, anything i'm not. fearing any man mine eyes. have seen the glory of the coming of the | Dr MARTIN LUTHER KING JR (Civil Rights; Activist): I'm not worried about anything I'm not fearing any man Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of. the | dr. martin luther king jr. (civil rights activist): i'm not worried about anything; i'm not fearing any man. mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the lord. |
The next day he was dead. And the last song at Bobby Kennedy's requiem mass was the "Battle Hymn." | the next day he was, dead and the last song at. bobby kennedy's requiem, mass was. the "battle | The next day he was dead And the last song at Bobby Kennedy's requiem mass was the "Battle | the next day he was dead. and the last song at bobby kennedy's requiem mass was the "battle hymn." |
Wow. | wow. | ||
You know, people are tired of pretending like we're not angry. And for the first time - at least in my living memory - we're seeing some real sort of large-scale consequences for some men who have, allegedly, engaged in really predatory behavior. So there's a lot of power in unleashing anger, especially anger that's be... | you. know people; are tired of pretending like we're not angry and for. the first time - at least in my living memory - we're. seeing some real sort of large-scale consequences for some. men who have allegedly engaged in really. predatory behavior so there's. a lot of power in unleashing anger especially anger that's b... | You know people are tired of pretending like we're not angry And for the; first time - at least, in my living memory - we're, seeing some. real sort of large-scale consequences for some men who have allegedly engaged in really predatory behavior So there's a, lot, of power in unleashing anger especially anger that's be... | you know, people are tired of pretending like we're not angry. and for the first time - at least in my living memory - we're seeing some real sort of large-scale consequences for some men who have, allegedly, engaged in really predatory behavior. so there's a lot of power in unleashing anger, especially anger that's be... |
Because the perception is angry men are strong, but angry women are viewed as hysterical, vindictive and downright scary. That has quelled those voices for a long time. You are seeing something different now. | because the perception is angry men are strong but angry women are viewed as hysterical vindictive and downright scary that has quelled those voices for a long time you, are seeing, something different, | Because, the perception is angry men are strong but angry women are viewed as hysterical, vindictive and downright scary That has quelled those voices, for a long time, You are seeing something different | because the perception is angry men are strong, but angry women are viewed as hysterical, vindictive and downright scary. that has quelled those voices for a long time. you are seeing something different now. |
Yeah. I mean, traditionally, we punish women for losing their temper in public. Women are supposed to be compliant and helpful and nice and, you know, play the support role for men who are the real actors in the world. And women who do lose their temper in public, we call them crazy. And we try to destroy them to a cer... | yeah i mean traditionally we. punish women for losing their temper, in public, women are supposed. to be. compliant and, helpful and nice, and you know play the support role for men who are the real actors in the world and women who do lose their temper in public we call them crazy and we try to destroy. them to a cert... | Yeah I mean traditionally we punish women for losing their temper in public Women are supposed to be compliant and helpful and nice and you know, play the support role for men who are the, real actors in the world And women who do lose their, temper in public we call them crazy And we. try. to destroy them to a certain... | yeah. i mean, traditionally, we punish women for losing their temper in public. women are supposed to be compliant and helpful and nice and, you know, play the support role for men who are the real actors in the world. and women who do lose their temper in public, we call them crazy. and we try to destroy them to a cer... |
You know, it's really hard for me to even come up with any examples of women who had what we call a meltdown who were met with a positive response and taken seriously. I mean, we don't - meltdown is almost a gendered word, you know? | you know it's really hard for me to even come up with any examples of women who had what we call a meltdown who were met with a positive response and taken seriously i mean we don't - meltdown is almost a gendered word you | You know, it's really; hard for me to even come up with any examples of women who had what we call a meltdown who were met with a positive response and taken seriously I mean, we don't - meltdown is almost a gendered word you | you know, it's really hard for me to even come up with any examples of women who had what we call a meltdown who were met with a positive response and taken seriously. i mean, we don't - meltdown is almost a gendered word, you know? |
Does it feel that that is changing now? | does it feel that that is changing | Does it feel that that is changing, | does it feel that that is changing now? |
I don't know. I mean, there's still a lot of hostility. It's hard to say whether it's being taken more seriously or received differently because there is still a huge backlash. I mean, I'm still seeing all the reasons why maybe these women misunderstood what happened to them. Or... | i, don't, know i, mean there's still a lot of hostility it's hard to. say whether it's being taken more, seriously or received differently because there is still a huge backlash i mean i'm still seeing all the reasons; why maybe these women. misunderstood what happened to them | I don't know I mean there's still a lot of hostility It's hard, to say whether it's being, taken more, seriously or received differently because there is still a, huge backlash I mean I'm still seeing all the reasons why maybe these women misunderstood, what happened to them | i don't know. i mean, there's still a lot of hostility. it's hard to say whether it's being taken more seriously or received differently because there is still a huge backlash. i mean, i'm still seeing all the reasons why maybe these women misunderstood what happened to them. or... |
Blowing it out of proportion. | blowing it out. of | Blowing; it out of | blowing it out of proportion. |
Blowing it out of proportion - or it was a different time. He was raised in a... | blowing it out of. proportion - or it was a different time he was raised in | Blowing it out of proportion - or it was a different time He was raised in. | blowing it out of proportion - or it was a different time. he was raised in a... |
Right. | right. | ||
...Different time when this was fine, as though all of our fathers and grandfathers were sexual predators. | ...different time when this was fine as though all of our, fathers and. grandfathers were sexual | ...Different time when this was fine as. though all of our fathers and grandfathers were sexual. | ...different time when this was fine, as though all of our fathers and grandfathers were sexual predators. |
Right. | right. | ||
And they weren't. | and they | And they | and they weren't. |
What is the role of men in this moment? | what is, the role of men in this | What is the role of men in this | what is the role of men in this moment? |
The role of men in this moment is to listen and to think critically about their behavior and to, most importantly, change their behavior. On a broader scale, I think it's really important for men to think about how much space they take up and to step aside and make some room for women, especially women of color - margi... | the role. of men in this moment is to listen and to think, critically about their behavior and to most importantly change their, behavior; on a broader scale i think it's really important for men to think about how, much space they. take up and to step aside and; make some room for women especially women of color - mar... | The role of men in this. moment is to listen and to. think critically about. their behavior and to most, importantly change their behavior On a broader scale. I think it's really, important for men to think about how much, space they take up and to step aside and make some room for women especially women, of color - ma... | the role of men in this moment is to listen and to think critically about their behavior and to, most importantly, change their behavior. on a broader scale, i think it's really important for men to think about how much space they take up and to step aside and make some room for women, especially women of color - margi... |
Writer Lindy West - her newest op-ed appears in The New York Times. It's called "Brave Enough To Be Angry." | writer, lindy west - her newest op-ed, appears in, the new york times it's called "brave enough to be | Writer Lindy West - her newest op-ed appears in The New York Times It's called "Brave Enough To Be | writer lindy west - her newest op-ed appears in the new york times. it's called "brave enough to be angry." |
Lindy, thanks so much. | lindy thanks so. | Lindy thanks so | lindy, thanks so much. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank | thank you. |
And we're going to turn now to Nebraska and a roadside attraction that mixes mysticism and Motown. It's Carhenge. | and we're going to turn now to nebraska and a roadside attraction, that mixes mysticism and motown it's | And we're going to turn now to Nebraska and a roadside attraction that mixes mysticism and Motown It's. | and we're going to turn now to nebraska and a roadside attraction that mixes mysticism and motown. it's carhenge. |
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Rising like monoliths from ancient times stands a formation of vintage American automobiles which replicates Stonehenge. | rising like monoliths from ancient times stands a formation of, vintage american automobiles which replicates. | Rising like monoliths from ancient times stands a. formation of, vintage American automobiles which. replicates | rising like monoliths from ancient times stands a formation of vintage american automobiles which replicates stonehenge. |
I have to visit this place. It has been trapping tourists since the 1980s. And now, NPR's Geoff Brumfiel reports that Carhenge is gearing up for a moment in the sun, or rather, 2 minutes and 30 seconds in the shade. Carhenge is right in the path of this month's total solar eclipse. | i have to visit this. place it has been trapping. tourists since the 1980s and now npr's. geoff brumfiel reports; that carhenge is gearing. up for a moment in the sun or. rather, 2 minutes and 30 seconds in the shade carhenge is right in the path of this month's total solar | I have to visit this place. It has been trapping tourists since the 1980s And now NPR's Geoff Brumfiel reports that Carhenge is gearing; up for a moment in the sun or rather 2 minutes and 30 seconds in the shade Carhenge is right in the, path of this month's total solar, | i have to visit this place. it has been trapping tourists since the 1980s. and now, npr's geoff brumfiel reports that carhenge is gearing up for a moment in the sun, or rather, 2 minutes and 30 seconds in the shade. carhenge is right in the path of this month's total solar eclipse. |
(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC) | (soundbite of | (SOUNDBITE. OF | (soundbite of music) |
So I never thought I'd be waiting on hold with the Visitors Bureau of Alliance, Neb., but these are unusual times. | so i never thought, i'd be waiting, on hold with the visitors bureau of alliance neb., but these are unusual | So I never. thought I'd be waiting on hold with the Visitors Bureau of. Alliance Neb., but these are unusual | so i never thought i'd be waiting on hold with the visitors bureau of alliance, neb., but these are unusual times. |
Hi, Geoff. | hi | Hi | hi, geoff. |
Hello. Is that Kevin? | hello is that, | Hello Is that | hello. is that kevin? |
Yeah, this is Kevin. I'm sorry. | yeah this is kevin i'm | Yeah this is Kevin I'm | yeah, this is kevin. i'm sorry. |
Kevin Howard is in charge of eclipse planning, and his phone is ringing nonstop because later this month, the moon's shadow will fall on Carhenge. | kevin howard is in charge of eclipse planning and his phone is ringing nonstop because later this, month the moon's shadow will fall on | Kevin Howard is in charge of eclipse planning and. his phone is ringing nonstop because later this month the moon's shadow will fall on | kevin howard is in charge of eclipse planning, and his phone is ringing nonstop because later this month, the moon's shadow will fall on carhenge. |
Holy cow, man. Guess what? There's going to be an eclipse. | holy cow man guess what? there's going to be an | Holy cow. man Guess what? There's, going to. be an. | holy cow, man. guess what? there's going to be an eclipse. |
He says the ancients who built Carhenge back in 1987 didn't know about this eclipse. It was a local named Jim Reinders who wanted to build a version of Stonehenge as a tribute to his dad. Now, the original Stonehenge in England was used to mark celestial events. It was built of giant rocks that prehistoric people dragg... | he. says the, ancients who built carhenge back in 1987 didn't know about, this eclipse it was a, local, named jim reinders. who wanted to build a version of stonehenge as a tribute to his dad now, the original stonehenge in england was used to mark celestial events it was built of giant rocks that prehistoric people dr... | He says the ancients who built Carhenge back, in 1987 didn't know, about this eclipse It was a local; named Jim Reinders who wanted to, build a version of Stonehenge as a tribute to his dad Now the original Stonehenge in, England was used to mark celestial events It was built of giant rocks that prehistoric people drag... | he says the ancients who built carhenge back in 1987 didn't know about this eclipse. it was a local named jim reinders who wanted to build a version of stonehenge as a tribute to his dad. now, the original stonehenge in england was used to mark celestial events. it was built of giant rocks that prehistoric people dragg... |
So he decided, if we build it out of cars, the wheels on them would greatly simplify the logistics. | so he decided if we build it out of. cars the wheels on them would, greatly simplify the | So he decided if we build it out, of cars the wheels on them would greatly simplify the | so he decided, if we build it out of cars, the wheels on them would greatly simplify the logistics. |
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