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We learned today of the death of a man who was not well known, but who played a remarkable role in civil rights history. In 1955, Willie Louis testified in a Mississippi court against the white men accused of kidnapping and murdering 14-year-old Emmett Till. Louis had seen them drive by and heard them beating Till.	we learned today of the death of a, man who was not well. known but who played a remarkable role in civil rights history in; 1955, willie louis testified in a mississippi court against the white; men accused of kidnapping and murdering 14-year-old emmett till louis had seen, them drive by and heard them beating	We learned today, of the death of a man who was not well known but who played a remarkable role in civil rights history In 1955, Willie Louis testified in a Mississippi court against the white men accused of kidnapping and murdering 14-year-old Emmett Till Louis had seen them drive by and heard them beating	we learned today of the death of a man who was not well known, but who played a remarkable role in civil rights history. in 1955, willie louis testified in a mississippi court against the white men accused of kidnapping and murdering 14-year-old emmett till. louis had seen them drive by and heard them beating till.
NPR's Karen Grigsby Bates has this remembrance, and a warning, it includes some offensive racial language.	npr's karen grigsby bates has this remembrance and a warning. it includes some offensive racial	NPR's Karen Grigsby Bates has this remembrance and a warning it includes some offensive racial	npr's karen grigsby bates has this remembrance, and a warning, it includes some offensive racial language.
In August 1955, although Emancipation had occurred almost a hundred years earlier, much of the Deep South remained unchanged. The murder of young Emmett Till, accused of whistling at a white shopkeeper's wife, horrified America. Ordinarily, whites weren't prosecuted for killing blacks in segregated Mississippi. But the...	in; august 1955, although emancipation. had occurred almost a. hundred years earlier. much of the. deep south remained unchanged the murder of young emmett till accused of whistling at a white shopkeeper's. wife, horrified america ordinarily whites weren't prosecuted for killing blacks in segregated mississippi but the...	In August 1955, although Emancipation had. occurred almost a. hundred years earlier. much of, the Deep South remained unchanged The murder of young Emmett. Till accused of whistling at a white shopkeeper's wife horrified America Ordinarily whites weren't prosecuted for killing blacks in segregated Mississippi But the T...	in august 1955, although emancipation had occurred almost a hundred years earlier, much of the deep south remained unchanged. the murder of young emmett till, accused of whistling at a white shopkeeper's wife, horrified america. ordinarily, whites weren't prosecuted for killing blacks in segregated mississippi. but the...
At that time, it was virtually unheard of for a black person to testify against a white, particularly if that person grew up as a sharecropper, depended on whites for his livelihood.	at that time it was virtually unheard of for a black person, to testify against a. white, particularly if. that, person grew up as a sharecropper depended on whites, for his	At that time it was virtually unheard of. for a black. person to testify. against a white particularly if that person grew up as; a, sharecropper depended on whites for his	at that time, it was virtually unheard of for a black person to testify against a white, particularly if that person grew up as a sharecropper, depended on whites for his livelihood.
George Curry is editor-in-chief of the National Newspaper Association's wire service, which provides news to the nation's black newspapers. He's also finishing a book on the Till case. Curry says immediately after Till's murder, local black leaders worked together to spirit Willie Reed away to Chicago. They knew his li...	george curry is editor-in-chief of the national newspaper association's wire service, which provides news to the nation's black newspapers he's, also finishing a book on the till case curry says. immediately after till's murder local, black leaders worked together to spirit willie reed away to chicago. they; knew his l...	George Curry is. editor-in-chief of the National Newspaper Association's wire service which. provides news to the nation's black newspapers He's also finishing a book on the Till case Curry says immediately after Till's murder local black, leaders worked together to spirit Willie Reed away to Chicago; They knew his lif...	george curry is editor-in-chief of the national newspaper association's wire service, which provides news to the nation's black newspapers. he's also finishing a book on the till case. curry says immediately after till's murder, local black leaders worked together to spirit willie reed away to chicago. they knew his li...
By the time the trial started, in September, Reed was in Chicago but he agreed to return to Mississippi to testify at the trial. George Curry says the courage that took was unimaginable.	by the time the trial started in september reed was in chicago but he agreed to return to mississippi to testify at the trial george, curry says the, courage that took was	By the time the trial; started, in September Reed, was in Chicago but he agreed to return to Mississippi to testify at the trial George Curry says the courage that took was.	by the time the trial started, in september, reed was in chicago but he agreed to return to mississippi to testify at the trial. george curry says the courage that took was unimaginable.
Especially having escaped Mississippi, knowing that the risk involved, and then to voluntarily come back and stand up and testify and point out J.W. Milam in that courtroom was phenomenal.	especially, having escaped mississippi knowing that the risk involved and then to voluntarily come back and stand up and testify and point. out j.w milam; in that courtroom was	Especially having escaped Mississippi knowing that the, risk involved and then, to voluntarily come back and stand up and testify and point out J.W Milam in that courtroom. was	especially having escaped mississippi, knowing that the risk involved, and then to voluntarily come back and stand up and testify and point out j.w. milam in that courtroom was phenomenal.
The atmosphere in the courtroom was tense. About a half-dozen members of the black press came to record the proceedings. Simeon Booker covered the trial for Jet Magazine. He recalls how the black reporters were greeted in an oral history for Black Books and Reviews.	the atmosphere in the courtroom was tense about a half-dozen members of the black press came to record the, proceedings simeon booker covered the trial for jet, magazine; he recalls how the black reporters were greeted in an oral, history for black books and	The atmosphere in the courtroom was tense. About a half-dozen members of the black press, came to record the proceedings Simeon Booker covered the trial for Jet, Magazine He, recalls how the black reporters were greeted in an oral history for Black Books and	the atmosphere in the courtroom was tense. about a half-dozen members of the black press came to record the proceedings. simeon booker covered the trial for jet magazine. he recalls how the black reporters were greeted in an oral history for black books and reviews.
I remember Sheriff Strider, who came in the courtroom every morning: Hello, niggers.	i remember sheriff strider who came in the courtroom every morning: hello	I remember Sheriff Strider who came in the courtroom; every. morning: Hello	i remember sheriff strider, who came in the courtroom every morning: hello, niggers.
Willie Reed identified Roy Bryant and J.W. Milam, as Till's assailants in open court. Sixty-seven minutes later, an all-white jury acquitted both men, a virtually guaranteed outcome that made Reed's testimony all the more courageous.	willie reed identified roy bryant and j.w milam as till's assailants in open court sixty-seven minutes later an all-white jury acquitted both men a, virtually. guaranteed outcome that made reed's testimony all the more	Willie Reed identified Roy Bryant and J.W Milam as Till's assailants in. open court Sixty-seven minutes later an all-white jury acquitted both men a virtually guaranteed, outcome that made Reed's testimony all the more.	willie reed identified roy bryant and j.w. milam, as till's assailants in open court. sixty-seven minutes later, an all-white jury acquitted both men, a virtually guaranteed outcome that made reed's testimony all the more courageous.
Reed swiftly returned to Chicago and changed his name to Willie Louis. He worked as a hospital orderly and hardly ever spoke of the trial. His wife, Julia, said she'd been married to him for seven or eight years before he told her. The Mississippi trial left him with terrible nightmares. Yet, he told a CBS reporter, he...	reed swiftly returned to chicago and changed his name to willie louis he worked as a hospital orderly and hardly ever spoke, of the trial his wife julia said she'd been married to him for seven or eight years before he told her the mississippi trial left him with terrible nightmares, yet he told a. cbs reporter. he fel...	Reed. swiftly returned to Chicago and changed his name to Willie Louis. He worked as a hospital orderly and hardly. ever spoke of the trial His wife Julia said she'd been. married to. him for. seven or eight years before he told her The Mississippi trial left him with terrible nightmares Yet he told a CBS reporter he f...	reed swiftly returned to chicago and changed his name to willie louis. he worked as a hospital orderly and hardly ever spoke of the trial. his wife, julia, said she'd been married to him for seven or eight years before he told her. the mississippi trial left him with terrible nightmares. yet, he told a cbs reporter, he...
Willie Louis died in the Chicago suburb of Oak Lawn on July 18th. He was 76 years old.	willie louis died in the chicago suburb of oak lawn on july 18th he was. 76 years	Willie Louis died in the Chicago suburb of Oak Lawn on, July 18th He was 76 years,	willie louis died in the chicago suburb of oak lawn on july 18th. he was 76 years old.
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It's WEEKENDS on ALL THINGS CONSIDERED from NPR News. I'm Jacki Lyden.	it's weekends on all things considered from npr news; i'm jacki	It's WEEKENDS on; ALL THINGS CONSIDERED from NPR News I'm Jacki	it's weekends on all things considered from npr news. i'm jacki lyden.
It's a watershed time in the gay rights movement. Nine states and D.C. now legally recognize gay marriage. And in the spring, the Supreme Court takes on the Defense of Marriage Act. More Americans now accept gay marriage than oppose it, according to the Pew Research Center. And last month, President Obama mentioned gay...	it's a, watershed time in the gay rights movement; nine states and, d.c now legally, recognize gay marriage and in the spring the supreme court takes on the defense of marriage. act more americans now accept gay, marriage than oppose it according to, the pew research center and last month president obama mentioned gay ...	It's a watershed time in the gay rights movement Nine states and D.C now legally recognize gay marriage And in the. spring the. Supreme Court takes on the, Defense of, Marriage Act. More Americans, now accept gay marriage than oppose it according to the Pew Research Center And last month, President Obama, mentioned gay...	it's a watershed time in the gay rights movement. nine states and d.c. now legally recognize gay marriage. and in the spring, the supreme court takes on the defense of marriage act. more americans now accept gay marriage than oppose it, according to the pew research center. and last month, president obama mentioned gay...
...the most evident of truths that all of us are created equal, is the star that guides us still, just as it guided our forbearers through Seneca Falls and Selma and Stonewall...	...the most evident of truths that, all of us are created equal is the star that guides us still just as it guided our forbearers through seneca falls and selma and	...the. most evident of truths that all of us are created equal is the star that guides. us still just as it guided our forbearers through Seneca Falls, and Selma and	...the most evident of truths that all of us are created equal, is the star that guides us still, just as it guided our forbearers through seneca falls and selma and stonewall...
Yes. So there are multiple aims. You know, in 2010, Google was hacked, and there were - that was sort of a dual aim there. The intruders were going after the email accounts of political activists, Tibetan activists. But they were also going after the source code for Google. So there's sort of an economic gain there, po...	yes so there are multiple aims you know in 2010, google was hacked and there were - that was sort of a dual aim there the intruders were going after the email accounts of political activists tibetan activists but they were also going after, the source code for google so there's sort of an economic, gain there possibly ...	Yes So there are multiple aims You know in 2010, Google was hacked and there were - that was sort of a dual aim there, The intruders were going after the email accounts of; political activists Tibetan, activists, But they were also going after, the source code for Google So there's sort of an economic gain there possib...	yes. so there are multiple aims. you know, in 2010, google was hacked, and there were - that was sort of a dual aim there. the intruders were going after the email accounts of political activists, tibetan activists. but they were also going after the source code for google. so there's sort of an economic gain there, po...
So they've also gone after defense contractors. So there - in that case, the motivation, of course, is military secrets and as well espionage, economic, you know, gains. And they've also targeted law firms, particularly law firms that are engaged in litigation in China or engaged in mergers and acquisitions so that the...	so they've also gone after defense contractors. so. there - in that case the motivation of course is military secrets and as well espionage economic you know gains and. they've also targeted law firms particularly law firms that are engaged in litigation in china or engaged in mergers and acquisitions, so that they can...	So they've also gone after defense contractors So there - in that case, the motivation of course, is military secrets and as well espionage economic; you know gains. And they've also targeted law firms particularly law firms. that are engaged in litigation in China or engaged in mergers and acquisitions so that they ca...	so they've also gone after defense contractors. so there - in that case, the motivation, of course, is military secrets and as well espionage, economic, you know, gains. and they've also targeted law firms, particularly law firms that are engaged in litigation in china or engaged in mergers and acquisitions so that the...
So there is an economic goal, here. There is a military goal. There is also what seems to be - there's a security goal and an image goal, public relations, if you will.	so there is an. economic. goal here there is a military goal there is. also what seems to be - there's a security goal and an image goal public relations if you	So there is an economic goal here There is a military goal There, is also what seems to be - there's a security, goal and an image goal public relations, if you	so there is an economic goal, here. there is a military goal. there is also what seems to be - there's a security goal and an image goal, public relations, if you will.
Yes. Like I said, it's multiple. They're going after - you know, it seems like this is an industry. And, you know, I'm hesitant to point a finger at China, because it's very easy to point the finger at China. And it's also very easy to make an attack appear to come from China when it's not coming from China. So, you kn...	yes like. i, said it's multiple they're going after, - you know it; seems like this is an industry and you know, i'm hesitant to point a finger at china because it's very easy to point the finger at china and it's, also very easy to make an attack appear to come from china when it's not coming. from china so you know a...	Yes Like I said it's multiple They're going after - you know it seems, like this. is an industry And you know I'm hesitant to, point a finger at China because it's very, easy to point the finger. at China And it's also very easy to make. an attack appear to come from. China when it's, not coming from China So you know ...	yes. like i said, it's multiple. they're going after - you know, it seems like this is an industry. and, you know, i'm hesitant to point a finger at china, because it's very easy to point the finger at china. and it's also very easy to make an attack appear to come from china when it's not coming from china. so, you kn...
And we should note that Chinese deny it. I'm not sure that anybody holds any great belief in that.	and we should note that chinese deny it. i'm not, sure that anybody holds any great belief in	And we. should note, that Chinese deny it I'm not sure that anybody holds any great belief in.	and we should note that chinese deny it. i'm not sure that anybody holds any great belief in that.
Yeah. But I - you know, I think that it's also important to say - and as you mentioned in the introduction - that there are a lot of other people, a lot of other nations engaging in hacking, as well. So, you know, pointing the finger at China is easy to do, but many other nations are engaged in this kind of attack - ha...	yeah but i, - you know i think. that it's also important to say - and as you mentioned in the introduction - that, there, are a lot of other. people a lot of other nations engaging, in hacking as well so you, know, pointing the finger at china is easy to do but many other nations are, engaged in this kind of attack - h...	Yeah But I - you know I think that it's also important to say - and as you mentioned; in the introduction - that there are a lot of other people a lot of other nations engaging in hacking, as well So you know pointing the finger at China is easy to do but many other nations are engaged in this. kind, of, attack - hacki...	yeah. but i - you know, i think that it's also important to say - and as you mentioned in the introduction - that there are a lot of other people, a lot of other nations engaging in hacking, as well. so, you know, pointing the finger at china is easy to do, but many other nations are engaged in this kind of attack - ha...
As the Times' own story reported, the United States is involved in, well, cyber-warfare with Iran.	as the times' own story reported the united states is involved in well cyber-warfare with	As the Times' own story reported the United States is. involved in well cyber-warfare with	as the times' own story reported, the united states is involved in, well, cyber-warfare with iran.
Yeah. And in that case, you know, I want to make a distinction between espionage and cyber-warfare. I mean, espionage is getting into a system and obtaining secrets at sort of the level of what we've always known espionage to be, spying, and we sort of live with that. In the case of Stuxnet, here, you know, this gets i...	yeah and in that case you know i want to make a distinction between espionage and cyber-warfare, i mean espionage is getting. into a system and obtaining secrets at sort of the. level of what we've always known espionage to be spying and. we, sort of live with that in the case of stuxnet here you know this; gets into a...	Yeah And in that case, you know I want to make. a distinction between espionage and cyber-warfare I mean espionage is getting, into a system and obtaining secrets at sort of the level, of what we've always known, espionage to be. spying. and we sort of live with that In the, case, of Stuxnet here you, know this gets in...	yeah. and in that case, you know, i want to make a distinction between espionage and cyber-warfare. i mean, espionage is getting into a system and obtaining secrets at sort of the level of what we've always known espionage to be, spying, and we sort of live with that. in the case of stuxnet, here, you know, this gets i...
To cause the centrifuges that are enriching Iran's uranium to spin out of control and destroy themselves.	to cause the centrifuges that are enriching iran's uranium to spin out of control. and destroy	To cause the centrifuges that are enriching Iran's uranium, to spin out of control and destroy	to cause the centrifuges that are enriching iran's uranium to spin out of control and destroy themselves.
Yeah, either destroy themselves or to sort of malfunction over a period of time so that the enriched uranium never reaches the level that it need to reach.	yeah either destroy themselves or to sort of malfunction over a period of, time so that the enriched uranium never reaches the level that. it need to	Yeah either destroy themselves or to. sort of malfunction over a period of time so that the enriched uranium never reaches the level that it need to	yeah, either destroy themselves or to sort of malfunction over a period of time so that the enriched uranium never reaches the level that it need to reach.
There is also considerable evidence that Iran has responded in kind.	there is also considerable evidence that iran has responded in	There is also considerable evidence that. Iran has responded in	there is also considerable evidence that iran has responded in kind.
Well, yeah. I mean, we've heard - we've seen some finger-pointing from the U.S. government about that. That's - there have been two cases of that, one involved in Saudi Arabia that hit the Saudi Aramco there, where 30,000 systems that were running the oil company there - information on 30,000 systems got erased. And so...	well yeah i mean we've heard, - we've seen some finger-pointing, from the u.s government about that that's. - there have been, two cases of that one involved in saudi arabia that hit the saudi aramco there where 30,000 systems that. were running the oil, company there - information on. 30,000 systems got; erased and so...	Well yeah I mean, we've heard - we've seen some finger-pointing from the U.S government about that That's - there, have been two cases of that one involved in, Saudi Arabia that hit the Saudi Aramco there, where 30,000 systems that, were running, the oil company there - information on 30,000 systems got erased And so t...	well, yeah. i mean, we've heard - we've seen some finger-pointing from the u.s. government about that. that's - there have been two cases of that, one involved in saudi arabia that hit the saudi aramco there, where 30,000 systems that were running the oil company there - information on 30,000 systems got erased. and so...
And that's the question. We should mention, of course, the cyber-warfare against Iran, Israel said to be involved in that, as well. It's hard to know who is behind these attacks. These attacks, the hacks on the New York Times were traced back, and various companies said, boy, they seem to be exactly similar to the kind...	and that's the question we should mention of course the cyber-warfare against iran; israel said to. be involved. in that as well it's, hard to know who, is behind these attacks these attacks the hacks on the new york times were traced back and various. companies. said boy they seem to be exactly; similar to the kinds o...	And that's the question We should mention of course the cyber-warfare against Iran Israel said to be. involved in that as well. It's hard to know who is behind these attacks, These attacks the hacks on the, New York Times were traced back and various companies said boy they seem to be exactly similar to the kinds of at...	and that's the question. we should mention, of course, the cyber-warfare against iran, israel said to be involved in that, as well. it's hard to know who is behind these attacks. these attacks, the hacks on the new york times were traced back, and various companies said, boy, they seem to be exactly similar to the kind...
Yeah. But when you're doing forensic investigations like this, you're looking for fingerprints that sort of mark a sort of a modus operandi of groups that you can see over and over again. And in the New York Times report, they pointed out that Mandiant had attributed this to a group that they're calling APT12, and that...	yeah but when you're doing forensic investigations like this you're looking for fingerprints, that sort of mark, a sort of a modus operandi of groups that you can, see over and, over again and in the new york times report they pointed out that mandiant had attributed this to a group, that they're calling apt12, and tha...	Yeah But when, you're, doing forensic; investigations like this you're. looking for fingerprints that sort of mark a sort of, a modus operandi of groups that you can see over and over again And in the New York Times report they pointed out that Mandiant had attributed this to a group that, they're calling APT12, and. t...	yeah. but when you're doing forensic investigations like this, you're looking for fingerprints that sort of mark a sort of a modus operandi of groups that you can see over and over again. and in the new york times report, they pointed out that mandiant had attributed this to a group that they're calling apt12, and that...
And in some cases, you know, when actors are - when they're active over a long period of time and engaged in a number of attacks, they will eventually make mistakes. And so it can be possible sometimes to attribute attacks to an individual or to an organization. And we have seen things like that that sort of trace some...	and in some cases you know, when actors are - when they're active, over, a long period of time and engaged in. a number of attacks they will eventually make mistakes and so it can be possible sometimes to attribute attacks to an individual or to an organization and we have seen things like that that sort of, trace some...	And in some cases you know when actors are - when they're active over a long period of time; and engaged in a number; of attacks. they will eventually make mistakes And so it can be possible, sometimes to attribute attacks to an individual or to an organization And we have seen things like that that sort of trace some ...	and in some cases, you know, when actors are - when they're active over a long period of time and engaged in a number of attacks, they will eventually make mistakes. and so it can be possible sometimes to attribute attacks to an individual or to an organization. and we have seen things like that that sort of trace some...
And to individuals and universities. Is it possible to say this is a government policy, then?	and to individuals and universities is it possible to say, this is, a government policy	And to individuals and universities. Is it possible to say this is, a government policy	and to individuals and universities. is it possible to say this is a government policy, then?
Well, see, there's the plausible deniability. I mean, you can have groups of hackers who engage in this activity because they're loyal to government, but not necessarily hired or ordered by the government. But, of course, if they get information that's helpful, they can hand it over to the government and get paid for i...	well see there's the, plausible deniability i mean you can have groups of hackers who engage in this, activity because they're loyal to government but not necessarily. hired or ordered by the government but of course if they get information that's helpful they can hand it over to the government and get paid for it so i...	Well see there's the plausible deniability. I mean you can have groups of hackers, who engage in this activity because they're. loyal to government but not, necessarily hired or ordered by the government But of course if. they get information that's. helpful. they can hand it over to the government and get paid for it ...	well, see, there's the plausible deniability. i mean, you can have groups of hackers who engage in this activity because they're loyal to government, but not necessarily hired or ordered by the government. but, of course, if they get information that's helpful, they can hand it over to the government and get paid for i...
There's also the possibility - we mentioned this family of the Chinese premier, vastly wealthy. Could they have hired someone to do this on their behalf?	there's also the possibility - we. mentioned this family of the chinese premier vastly wealthy could they have hired someone to. do, this on their	There's also, the possibility - we mentioned this family of the Chinese premier vastly wealthy Could. they have hired someone to do this on. their	there's also the possibility - we mentioned this family of the chinese premier, vastly wealthy. could they have hired someone to do this on their behalf?
Exactly. This might not have been a nation-state directed at all. This might have simply been the family saying, you know, this is not acceptable, and we're going to go after The Times and we're going to use any methods we want. And then they hire their own freelance hackers themselves.	exactly this might not have been; a nation-state directed at all this. might have simply been the family saying you know this is not, acceptable. and we're going to go after the times and we're going to use any methods we want and then they hire their own freelance hackers	Exactly This might not have been, a nation-state directed at all This might have simply been the family saying you know this is not acceptable and we're, going to go after The Times and we're going to use any methods we want And then they hire their own freelance hackers	exactly. this might not have been a nation-state directed at all. this might have simply been the family saying, you know, this is not acceptable, and we're going to go after the times and we're going to use any methods we want. and then they hire their own freelance hackers themselves.
We also heard that Russia used denial-of-service attacks during its conflict Georgia some years ago. Is this going to be expected anytime there's a significant conflict, it will be preceded or accompanied by cyber-warfare and hacks?	we also heard that russia used denial-of-service attacks during its conflict georgia some years ago is this going to be expected anytime there's a significant conflict it. will be preceded or accompanied by cyber-warfare and	We also heard that Russia used denial-of-service attacks, during its, conflict Georgia some years ago, Is this going to be, expected, anytime there's a significant conflict, it will be preceded, or accompanied by. cyber-warfare and	we also heard that russia used denial-of-service attacks during its conflict georgia some years ago. is this going to be expected anytime there's a significant conflict, it will be preceded or accompanied by cyber-warfare and hacks?
Hank Plante is a veteran journalist of 35 years and one of the first gay reporters on TV. And I asked him, from his sense of history, how far he thinks the movement has come?	hank plante is a veteran, journalist of 35 years and. one of the first; gay. reporters on tv and i asked him from his sense of history how far he thinks the movement has	Hank Plante is a veteran journalist of 35 years. and one of the first gay reporters on TV And I asked, him from his sense, of history how far he thinks the movement has	hank plante is a veteran journalist of 35 years and one of the first gay reporters on tv. and i asked him, from his sense of history, how far he thinks the movement has come?
This would be a great mistake and it would viewed as very provocative by North Korea and they would look for ways to respond.	this would be a great mistake and it would viewed as very provocative by north korea, and they would look for ways to	This would be a great mistake and it would viewed, as very provocative by North Korea and they would, look for ways to	this would be a great mistake and it would viewed as very provocative by north korea and they would look for ways to respond.
Yeah. I mean, I think that that's the world we're living now. The door has been opened. Everyone knows that this is - I wouldn't say acceptable, but it's now established that this is doable and there's very little you can do in response to it. You know, in - with the case of Google, when Google was hacked, the U.S. cam...	yeah i mean i think that that's the world we're living now the door has been, opened everyone knows that this is - i wouldn't say acceptable but it's now established, that this. is doable and there's very little you, can do in response to it you know in - with the case of google when google was hacked the u.s came out ...	Yeah I, mean I think that that's the world we're living now The door. has been opened Everyone knows that this is - I wouldn't say acceptable but it's now established that this is doable and there's very little you can do in response to it, You know in - with the case of, Google when Google was hacked the U.S came; out...	yeah. i mean, i think that that's the world we're living now. the door has been opened. everyone knows that this is - i wouldn't say acceptable, but it's now established that this is doable and there's very little you can do in response to it. you know, in - with the case of google, when google was hacked, the u.s. cam...