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Here's an email from Terry in Portage, Michigan. "I remember 1976 sitting in the dorm room with some friends picking a movie to go to. Somebody had seen the only other option, so we picked the "Rocky Horror Picture Show," even though none of us knew anything about it. We sat there stunned through the opening lips and ... | here's an email from terry in portage michigan "i remember 1976 sitting in the dorm room with some. friends picking a movie to go to. somebody had seen the, only other option so we picked the. "rocky horror picture show" even though none of us knew anything about it we sat there stunned through the opening lips and. t... | Here's an email from Terry, in Portage Michigan "I remember 1976 sitting, in the dorm room with some friends; picking a, movie to go to Somebody had seen the only other option so we picked the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" even though. none of us knew anything about it We sat there stunned through the opening lips and t... | here's an email from terry in portage, michigan. "i remember 1976 sitting in the dorm room with some friends picking a movie to go to. somebody had seen the only other option, so we picked the "rocky horror picture show," even though none of us knew anything about it. we sat there stunned through the opening lips and ... |
(Soundbite of movie "The Buddy Holly Story") | (soundbite of movie, "the buddy holly, | (Soundbite of movie "The Buddy Holly | (soundbite of movie "the buddy holly story") |
(Singing) Now get ready, we're going to play some rock and roll. | (singing) now get ready we're going to play some rock and | (Singing) Now get ready we're going to play some rock and, | (singing) now get ready, we're going to play some rock and roll. |
(Soundbite of crowd cheering) | (soundbite of crowd | (Soundbite, of crowd | (soundbite of crowd cheering) |
(Singing) So here we go. One, two, one, two, three, four. That would be the day when you say goodbye. And that would be day when you make me cry. You say you're going to leave (unintelligible). For that would be the day, hey, hey, that I die. | (singing) so. here we go one two one two three four that would. be the. day when you say goodbye and that would be day when you make me cry you say you're going to leave (unintelligible). for that would be the day, hey hey that i | (Singing) So here we go One two one two three four That would be the, day when you say. goodbye And that would be day when you make me. cry You say you're going to leave (unintelligible). For that would, be the day, hey hey that I | (singing) so here we go. one, two, one, two, three, four. that would be the day when you say goodbye. and that would be day when you make me cry. you say you're going to leave (unintelligible). for that would be the day, hey, hey, that i die. |
That's Gary Busey, I am Neal Conan. Stay with us. It's Talk Of The Nation from NPR News. | that's, gary. busey i am neal conan stay with us it's talk of the nation from npr | That's Gary Busey. I am Neal Conan Stay with us It's Talk Of The. Nation. from NPR, | that's gary busey, i am neal conan. stay with us. it's talk of the nation from npr news. |
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This Talk of The Nation. I am Neal Conan in Washington. "Invasion of the Body Snatchers," "Eraserhead," "The Conversation" - we're talking B movies today. David Sterritt co-edited the new book the "B List; The National Society of Film Critics on the Low-Budget Beauties, Genre-Bending Mavericks, and Cult Classics We ... | this talk of, the nation i. am neal conan in washington "invasion of the body snatchers" "eraserhead" "the conversation" - we're talking b movies, today david sterritt co-edited the new book the "b list the national, society of film critics. on the low-budget beauties genre-bending, mavericks and cult classics we lo... | This Talk of The Nation I, am Neal Conan in Washington "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" "Eraserhead" "The Conversation" - we're talking B movies today David Sterritt, co-edited the new book the "B List The National. Society of Film Critics on the Low-Budget Beauties Genre-Bending Mavericks, and Cult Classics We Love... | this talk of the nation. i am neal conan in washington. "invasion of the body snatchers," "eraserhead," "the conversation" - we're talking b movies today. david sterritt co-edited the new book the "b list; the national society of film critics on the low-budget beauties, genre-bending mavericks, and cult classics we ... |
(Soundbite of movie "Kiss Me Deadly") | (soundbite of movie. "kiss me | (Soundbite, of movie "Kiss Me | (soundbite of movie "kiss me deadly") |
(As Mike Hammer) I'll make a quick guess. You are with some guy who thought no was three-letter word? I should have thrown you off that cliff back there - I might still do it. Where are you headed? | (as; mike hammer) i'll make; a quick guess you. are with some, guy who thought no was three-letter word? i should have thrown you off that cliff back there - i might still do. it where are you | (As Mike Hammer) I'll make a quick guess You. are with some guy who thought. no. was three-letter word? I should, have thrown you off that cliff back there - I might still do it Where are you | (as mike hammer) i'll make a quick guess. you are with some guy who thought no was three-letter word? i should have thrown you off that cliff back there - i might still do it. where are you headed? |
(As Christina) Los Angeles. Drop me off the first bus stop. | (as christina) los angeles drop me off the first bus | (As Christina) Los Angeles Drop me off the first bus | (as christina) los angeles. drop me off the first bus stop. |
(As Mike Hammer): You always go around with no clothes on? | (as mike hammer): you always go around with. no clothes | (As Mike. Hammer): You. always, go around with no clothes | (as mike hammer): you always go around with no clothes on? |
That's some guy who thought no was a - and that is incredibly, a very young Cloris Leachman there. | that's some, guy who thought no. was a - and that is incredibly a very young, cloris leachman | That's some guy. who thought no was a - and that is incredibly a very young Cloris Leachman | that's some guy who thought no was a - and that is incredibly, a very young cloris leachman there. |
It actually is, yeah. They don't write dialog like that anymore. Well, maybe they still do, but somehow it doesn't sound the same. Yeah, I mean, a film-noir had to be one had to be one of our major categories because so many brilliant B movies were made in that - the great noir cycle, which really stretched through t... | it actually is yeah they don't write dialog like. that anymore, well maybe they still do but somehow it, doesn't sound the same yeah i, mean; a film-noir had to be one had to be one of our major categories, because so many brilliant b movies. were made in that - the great noir cycle which really stretched through the... | It actually is. yeah They don't write dialog, like that anymore; Well maybe they still do but somehow it doesn't sound the same Yeah I mean a. film-noir had to be; one had to be one of our major categories. because so many brilliant B movies were made in that, - the great noir cycle which really stretched through the... | it actually is, yeah. they don't write dialog like that anymore. well, maybe they still do, but somehow it doesn't sound the same. yeah, i mean, a film-noir had to be one had to be one of our major categories because so many brilliant b movies were made in that - the great noir cycle, which really stretched through t... |
Samuel Fuller, one of my favorites. | samuel fuller one of my | Samuel Fuller one of my | samuel fuller, one of my favorites. |
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've got a good selection of Samuel Fuller in the book. Sam Fuller was an astonishing filmmaker and visually really brilliant. And then we've also got neo-noirs, which we call nightmares in Technicolor. Movies that were made later on and kind of gave a different spin to the old noir ideas. So yo... | yeah yeah, yeah we've got, a good selection. of samuel fuller in. the book sam fuller was an astonishing filmmaker and visually, really brilliant and. then we've also got neo-noirs which, we call nightmares in technicolor movies that were made later on and kind. of. gave a different spin to the old noir ideas so y... | Yeah yeah yeah We've got a good selection of Samuel. Fuller, in the book Sam Fuller was an astonishing filmmaker and visually, really brilliant And then we've also. got neo-noirs which. we call nightmares in Technicolor Movies. that were made later on and, kind of gave a different spin to the old, noir ideas So yo... | yeah, yeah, yeah. we've got a good selection of samuel fuller in the book. sam fuller was an astonishing filmmaker and visually really brilliant. and then we've also got neo-noirs, which we call nightmares in technicolor. movies that were made later on and kind of gave a different spin to the old noir ideas. so yo... |
Well, you mentioned Quentin Tarantino, who has made a career out of B movie homage and here's a clip from "Reservoir Dogs." | well you mentioned quentin tarantino, who has made a career. out of b movie homage and here's a clip from "reservoir | Well you mentioned Quentin Tarantino. who has made a career, out of B movie, homage and here's a clip from "Reservoir | well, you mentioned quentin tarantino, who has made a career out of b movie homage and here's a clip from "reservoir dogs." |
(Soundbite of movie "Reservoir Dogs") | (soundbite of movie "reservoir | (Soundbite of movie "Reservoir | (soundbite of movie "reservoir dogs") |
Unidentified Man #2: Here are your names: Mr. Brown, Mr. White, Mr. Blonde. Mr. Blue, Mr. Orange, and Mr. Pink. | unidentified man #2: here are your names: mr brown mr white mr blonde. mr blue mr orange and mr | Unidentified Man #2: Here are your names: Mr. Brown Mr White; Mr Blonde Mr Blue Mr Orange and Mr | unidentified man #2: here are your names: mr. brown, mr. white, mr. blonde. mr. blue, mr. orange, and mr. pink. |
(As Mr. Pink) Why can't we pick our own colors? | (as mr pink) why can't we pick our own | (As Mr Pink) Why can't we pick, our own | (as mr. pink) why can't we pick our own colors? |
Unidentified Man #2: No way. No way. Tried it once - it doesn't work. You got four guys all fighting over who's going to be Mr. Black. And they don't know each so nobody wants to back down. No way. I pick. You're Mr. Pink. | unidentified man #2: no way no way, tried; it once. - it doesn't work you got. four guys all fighting over who's going to, be mr black and they don't, know each so nobody wants to back down no way i pick you're mr | Unidentified Man #2: No way No way Tried it. once - it doesn't work You got four guys all fighting over who's going to be Mr Black And they don't; know each; so nobody wants to back, down No way I pick You're Mr | unidentified man #2: no way. no way. tried it once - it doesn't work. you got four guys all fighting over who's going to be mr. black. and they don't know each so nobody wants to back down. no way. i pick. you're mr. pink. |
Why do I have to be Mr. Pink? | why do, i have to be mr | Why do I have to be Mr | why do i have to be mr. pink? |
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What's he singing about here? | what's he singing about. | What's he singing about | what's he singing about here? |
Yeah. Quentin actually does have that real ear for B movie-type dialog. And of course, some of his movies are now really major, large-scale productions. But in "Grindhouse," not long ago, which is also in the book, by the way, I think it's the most recent film in the book - he and Robert Rodriguez sat down and made a... | yeah quentin actually does have that real ear for b movie-type dialog, and of course some of his movies are, now really major large-scale. productions but in "grindhouse" not long ago which is also in the book by the way, i think it's the most recent film in the book - he and; robert rodriguez sat down and made a rea... | Yeah Quentin actually does have that real ear for B movie-type dialog And of, course some of his movies are now really major large-scale, productions But in "Grindhouse" not long ago which is. also in the book by the way I think it's the most, recent film; in the book - he and Robert Rodriguez sat, down and made, a r... | yeah. quentin actually does have that real ear for b movie-type dialog. and of course, some of his movies are now really major, large-scale productions. but in "grindhouse," not long ago, which is also in the book, by the way, i think it's the most recent film in the book - he and robert rodriguez sat down and made a... |
Here's an email from Ken in Tulsa, Oklahoma. "I love B movies. I sure hope you include "Grindhouse," the great homage to B movies in your discussion. My wife and I saw "Grindhouse" at the last Grindhouse in Tulsa. The sticky floors and broken seats made the perfect setting for this movie' And yeah, there's a certai... | here's an. email from, ken in tulsa oklahoma "i love b movies i sure hope you include "grindhouse" the. great homage to b movies in your discussion my wife and i saw "grindhouse" at the last grindhouse, in tulsa. the sticky floors and broken, seats made the perfect. setting for this movie' and, yeah there's a certa... | Here's an, email from Ken in. Tulsa, Oklahoma "I love B movies I sure hope, you include "Grindhouse" the great, homage to B movies in your. discussion My wife and I saw "Grindhouse" at the last Grindhouse in Tulsa The sticky floors and broken, seats made the perfect setting for this movie' And yeah there's; a certa... | here's an email from ken in tulsa, oklahoma. "i love b movies. i sure hope you include "grindhouse," the great homage to b movies in your discussion. my wife and i saw "grindhouse" at the last grindhouse in tulsa. the sticky floors and broken seats made the perfect setting for this movie' and yeah, there's a certai... |
Absolutely. As a matter of fact, I saw "Grindhouse" in a very different kind of a setting. I saw it when I was teaching at the Maryland Institute College of Art in Baltimore. So I saw it with a lot of art students. And I kind of expected - it was a real packed house - that everybody would be kind of sitting around a... | absolutely as, a matter of fact i saw "grindhouse" in a very different kind of a setting i, saw it when, i was teaching at. the maryland institute college of art in baltimore so, i saw; it with a lot of art students. and i kind of. expected - it, was a real packed house - that everybody would be kind of sitting arou... | Absolutely As a matter of fact I saw "Grindhouse" in a very different kind. of a setting I saw it, when I was teaching at the Maryland. Institute College of Art in Baltimore So I saw it with a lot of art students And I kind of expected, - it was a real packed house - that everybody would be kind of sitting around an... | absolutely. as a matter of fact, i saw "grindhouse" in a very different kind of a setting. i saw it when i was teaching at the maryland institute college of art in baltimore. so i saw it with a lot of art students. and i kind of expected - it was a real packed house - that everybody would be kind of sitting around a... |
The audience was so interacting with that movie and was so caught up in the excitement and the fun of it. And you know, with not all B movies. Some B movies really deserved to be watched in reverent silence. They really do, because they're that good and they're that thought-provoking. But then there are movies, you... | the audience was so interacting with that movie and was; so caught up in the excitement and the fun of it and, you. know with not all b movies some b movies really deserved to be watched, in reverent silence they really do because they're that good and they're that thought-provoking but then there are movies you, k... | The, audience was so interacting with, that movie and. was so caught, up in the excitement and the fun of it And. you, know with not, all. B movies Some B movies really deserved to be watched in. reverent silence They, really do because they're that good and they're that thought-provoking But then, there are movies... | the audience was so interacting with that movie and was so caught up in the excitement and the fun of it. and you know, with not all b movies. some b movies really deserved to be watched in reverent silence. they really do, because they're that good and they're that thought-provoking. but then there are movies, you... |
And this is some of the dialog, no doubt, everybody who ever saw "Death Proof" part of "Grindhouse" knows by heart. | and this is some of the dialog no doubt everybody who ever saw "death proof" part of "grindhouse" knows by | And this, is some of the dialog no doubt everybody who ever saw "Death Proof" part of "Grindhouse" knows by | and this is some of the dialog, no doubt, everybody who ever saw "death proof" part of "grindhouse" knows by heart. |
(Soundbite of movie "Grindhouse") | (soundbite of movie | (Soundbite of movie | (soundbite of movie "grindhouse") |
(As Stuntman Mike) You saw my car. I saw your legs. Now look, I ain't stalking you. But I didn't say I wasn't' a wolf. | (as stuntman mike) you. saw my car i saw your legs now, look i ain't, stalking you but i; didn't say i wasn't' a | (As, Stuntman Mike) You saw my car I saw. your legs Now look I ain't stalking you But I didn't say, I wasn't' a | (as stuntman mike) you saw my car. i saw your legs. now look, i ain't stalking you. but i didn't say i wasn't' a wolf. |
So you really weren't following us? | so you really weren't following | So you really weren't following | so you really weren't following us? |
(As Stuntman Mike) I am not following you, Butterfly. I just got lucky. | (as stuntman mike) i am not following you butterfly i just got | (As Stuntman Mike) I am, not following you Butterfly I just got | (as stuntman mike) i am not following you, butterfly. i just got lucky. |
Let's get another caller on the line. Now this is Michael. Michael with us from Mukel in California. | let's get another caller on the line, now this is. michael michael with us from mukel in | Let's. get another caller on the line Now this is Michael Michael with us from Mukel in | let's get another caller on the line. now this is michael. michael with us from mukel in california. |
Hi. | hi. | ||
Hi. | hi. | ||
My favorite is the crown jewel of B movies, "The Creature from the Black Lagoon" and it seems to be a real great thread of B movies. The feminine lead is always a woman who is apparently drop-dead gorgeous all the time. And on that film-noir, you happen to live until you ever met a tall blonde, blue-eyed woman who's ... | my favorite is the crown jewel of b movies "the creature from the black. lagoon" and it seems to be a real great thread of b movies the feminine lead is always a, woman who, is apparently drop-dead gorgeous all, the time and on, that film-noir you happen to live until you; ever met a tall blonde blue-eyed woman, who'... | My. favorite is the crown jewel of B, movies "The Creature from the Black Lagoon" and it seems to be a real great thread of B movies The feminine lead is always a woman who is apparently drop-dead gorgeous all the time And on that film-noir. you happen to live until; you ever met a tall blonde blue-eyed woman who's w... | my favorite is the crown jewel of b movies, "the creature from the black lagoon" and it seems to be a real great thread of b movies. the feminine lead is always a woman who is apparently drop-dead gorgeous all the time. and on that film-noir, you happen to live until you ever met a tall blonde, blue-eyed woman who's ... |
My favorite line - I've always remembered it from "Creature from the Black Lagoon" was, 'how did I get involved in all of these science, ichthyology, fish?' | my favorite line - i've always remembered it from "creature from the black lagoon" was 'how did, i get involved in all of these science ichthyology | My favorite line - I've always remembered it from "Creature from the Black Lagoon" was 'how did I get, involved in. all of these science ichthyology. | my favorite line - i've always remembered it from "creature from the black lagoon" was, 'how did i get involved in all of these science, ichthyology, fish?' |
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I can't even spell it. | i can't even spell | I can't even spell | i can't even spell it. |
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You know there is so many great horror movies that come under the B umbrella, including some of the great 3D classics of the middle 1950s that we could just get a sampling of them into the book. But I mean, I love "Creature from the Black Lagoon" but hey, I really love "I Walked with the Zombie" for example, and you k... | you know there is so many great horror movies; that come under the b umbrella including some of the great 3d, classics of the middle 1950s that we could just get a sampling; of them into the book but i mean i love "creature from the black lagoon" but hey i; really love "i. walked with the zombie" for; example and you ... | You, know there is so many great horror movies, that come under the B, umbrella including some of. the great 3D classics of the middle 1950s that. we could just get a sampling of them into the book But I mean I love "Creature, from the Black Lagoon" but hey I really love "I Walked with the Zombie" for example and you ... | you know there is so many great horror movies that come under the b umbrella, including some of the great 3d classics of the middle 1950s that we could just get a sampling of them into the book. but i mean, i love "creature from the black lagoon" but hey, i really love "i walked with the zombie" for example, and you k... |
That suit's amazing though. Thanks very much for the call, Michael. And science fiction again, the difference, as you're saying, between the remake of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and the original - and this is from the 1956 original, when at the moment Miles realizes that Becky has been replaced. | that suit's amazing though thanks very much for the call. michael and science fiction again the difference as you're saying, between the remake of "invasion of the body snatchers" and the original - and this is from the 1956 original when at the moment miles realizes that, becky has been | That suit's amazing though Thanks very much for the call Michael And science fiction. again the difference as you're saying between the remake of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and the original - and this is, from the 1956 original when at the moment Miles realizes that Becky has been | that suit's amazing though. thanks very much for the call, michael. and science fiction again, the difference, as you're saying, between the remake of "invasion of the body snatchers" and the original - and this is from the 1956 original, when at the moment miles realizes that becky has been replaced. |
(Soundbite of movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers") | (soundbite of movie "invasion of the body | (Soundbite of movie "Invasion of the Body | (soundbite of movie "invasion of the body snatchers") |
(As Becky) I went to sleep, Miles, when it happened. | (as becky) i went to sleep miles when it | (As Becky) I went to sleep, Miles when it | (as becky) i went to sleep, miles, when it happened. |
(As Miles): Oh, Becky. | (as miles): oh | (As Miles): Oh | (as miles): oh, becky. |
(As Becky) They were right. | (as becky) they were | (As Becky) They were | (as becky) they were right. |
(As Miles): I should never have left you. | (as miles): i should never have left. | (As Miles): I should never have left | (as miles): i should never have left you. |
(As Becky) Stop acting like a fool, Miles, and accept this. | (as becky) stop acting like a fool miles and accept | (As Becky) Stop. acting like a fool Miles and accept | (as becky) stop acting like a fool, miles, and accept this. |
(As Miles) No. Never! | (as miles) no | (As Miles) No | (as miles) no. never! |
(As Becky) He's in here! He's in here! Get him! Get him! | (as; becky) he's in, here! he's in here! get him! get | (As Becky) He's in here! He's in here! Get him! Get | (as becky) he's in here! he's in here! get him! get him! |
You know, there been at least three versions of that ending. And in a lot of ways, the original one is still far and away the best. And you know, I said a moment ago, that there are B movies that deserve to be watched in reverent silence. I am not sure if "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" is one of them exactly. Exc... | you know there been at, least three versions of that ending and in a lot of ways the. original one is still far and away the best and you know i said a moment ago that there are, b movies that deserve. to be watched in reverent silence i am not sure if "invasion. of the body snatchers" is. one of them exactly excus... | You know there been at least three versions of that, ending And, in a lot, of ways the original one is still far and away the; best And you know, I said a moment ago that there are, B movies that deserve to be. watched in, reverent silence I am not sure if "Invasion of the Body, Snatchers" is one of them exactly Ex... | you know, there been at least three versions of that ending. and in a lot of ways, the original one is still far and away the best. and you know, i said a moment ago, that there are b movies that deserve to be watched in reverent silence. i am not sure if "invasion of the body snatchers" is one of them exactly. exc... |
Is one of them. | is, one of | Is one. of | is one of them. |
Yeah. I am not sure it's one of them but, you know, watching a movie like that from the middle 50s or "Red Planet Mars" from the early 50s. Watching movies like this - the political subtext, what's going on in them, particularly references to the red scare and fears about conformity in America and so forth. These th... | yeah i am not sure it's one of them but you know watching a, movie like that from the middle 50s or "red planet mars" from, the early 50s watching movies. like this. - the political subtext what's going on in them particularly references to. the red scare and fears about conformity in america and so forth these them... | Yeah I am not sure, it's, one of them but you know watching a movie like that from the. middle 50s. or "Red Planet Mars" from the early 50s Watching movies like this - the political subtext what's going on in them. particularly references to the red scare and fears about conformity in America and, so, forth These th... | yeah. i am not sure it's one of them but, you know, watching a movie like that from the middle 50s or "red planet mars" from the early 50s. watching movies like this - the political subtext, what's going on in them, particularly references to the red scare and fears about conformity in america and so forth. these th... |
And let's get Justin on the line. Justin with us from Salt Lake City. | and let's get justin on. the line justin with us from salt, lake | And, let's get Justin on the line Justin with us from Salt Lake | and let's get justin on the line. justin with us from salt lake city. |
Yeah, hey, how's it going? | yeah hey how's it | Yeah hey how's it | yeah, hey, how's it going? |
Very well, thanks. | very well | Very well | very well, thanks. |
I just wanted to point out that the three of my favorite major movie directors these days, they started out pretty small. Christopher Nolan, Sam Raimi , even Peter Jackson made "Meet the Feebles" way back in the day. | i just wanted to point out that. the three of my favorite major movie directors these days they started out pretty small christopher nolan sam raimi , even peter jackson made "meet the feebles" way. back in the | I just wanted to point out that the three of my favorite major; movie directors these days. they; started out pretty small Christopher Nolan Sam Raimi , even Peter Jackson made "Meet the Feebles" way back in the | i just wanted to point out that the three of my favorite major movie directors these days, they started out pretty small. christopher nolan, sam raimi , even peter jackson made "meet the feebles" way back in the day. |
Yeah, absolutely. And these are - people who really start off not just in movies that were small but movies that were crummy, you know. They had no prestige attached to them at all. | yeah absolutely and these are - people who really start off not just in movies that were small but movies that were crummy you know they. had, no prestige attached to them at | Yeah absolutely And these are, - people who really start off not just in movies that were small but movies that were crummy you know They had no, prestige attached to them at | yeah, absolutely. and these are - people who really start off not just in movies that were small but movies that were crummy, you know. they had no prestige attached to them at all. |
Yeah. And I also wanted to know if, I mean, coming from you, like, what the differences between maybe a B movies and things that people consider like Indie movies these days. | yeah and i also wanted to know if i, mean coming from you like what the, differences between maybe a b movies and things that people consider, like indie movies these | Yeah And I also wanted to know if I mean coming from you like what. the differences between maybe a B movies and. things that people consider like Indie movies these | yeah. and i also wanted to know if, i mean, coming from you, like, what the differences between maybe a b movies and things that people consider like indie movies these days. |
Good question. | good | Good | good question. |
Yeah, very good question. And that's one of the things where if there's no more B movies in the old sense of the low-budget quickie for the bottom half of the double bill, they're definitely are equivalents of the B movie nowadays. And a lot of the Indie movies, the independent movies, are just exactly that. And if ... | yeah very good question and that's one of the things where if there's no more b. movies in the old sense. of the low-budget quickie for the bottom half of the double bill they're definitely are, equivalents, of. the b movie nowadays, and a lot of the. indie movies the independent movies, are just exactly that, and i... | Yeah very good, question And, that's one. of the things where if there's no, more B movies in the. old sense of the low-budget quickie for; the bottom half. of the double bill they're definitely are equivalents of the, B movie nowadays And a lot of the Indie movies the independent. movies are just exactly that And i... | yeah, very good question. and that's one of the things where if there's no more b movies in the old sense of the low-budget quickie for the bottom half of the double bill, they're definitely are equivalents of the b movie nowadays. and a lot of the indie movies, the independent movies, are just exactly that. and if ... |
Interestingly, you're talking about B movies as sort of a trick of mind, not necessarily a budget. For example, you site "The Conversation" is in this book and that's a film - and by the way Justin, thanks very much for the call - that's a film made by Coppola right after the "Godfather," so he was a pretty hot proper... | interestingly you're talking about b movies as sort of a trick of mind not necessarily a budget for example you site "the conversation" is in this book, and that's a film - and by the way justin thanks very much for, the, call - that's a film made, by coppola right after the "godfather" so he was a pretty hot property... | Interestingly you're talking about B movies as sort of a trick, of mind not necessarily a budget For example you site "The Conversation" is in this book and that's, a film - and by; the way Justin thanks very much for the call - that's a film made by Coppola right after the "Godfather" so he was a, pretty. hot propert... | interestingly, you're talking about b movies as sort of a trick of mind, not necessarily a budget. for example, you site "the conversation" is in this book and that's a film - and by the way justin, thanks very much for the call - that's a film made by coppola right after the "godfather," so he was a pretty hot proper... |
Absolutely. In fact, we say in our introduction of the book that we took a big tent approach to the B movie. We didn't say we're not going to give you a definition of what the B movie is because any attempt to do that would just really be arbitrary. So what we said to the members of the National Society of Film Crit... | absolutely in fact we say in our, introduction, of the book that we took a big. tent approach to the b movie we didn't say we're not going to give you. a definition of what the b movie is because any attempt to do that; would just really be arbitrary so what, we said to the members of the national society of film cr... | Absolutely In fact we say in our introduction of the book that we took a. big. tent approach to the B movie We, didn't say, we're not going to give you a definition of what the. B movie is because, any attempt to do that would just really be arbitrary So what, we said to; the members of. the National Society of Film... | absolutely. in fact, we say in our introduction of the book that we took a big tent approach to the b movie. we didn't say we're not going to give you a definition of what the b movie is because any attempt to do that would just really be arbitrary. so what we said to the members of the national society of film crit... |
And "The Conversation" is an example, written by - the essay written by Peter Kuo and as he points out, Coppola had just made the "Godfather" which was making gillions of dollars and of course, had enormously big stars and was a super major production from Paramount Pictures - and Coppola was pleased with it in a lot o... | and, "the conversation" is an example written by - the essay written by peter, kuo and as he points out coppola had just made the "godfather" which was making gillions of dollars and of course had enormously big. stars and was a super major production from paramount pictures - and coppola, was pleased with it. in a lot... | And "The Conversation" is an example written. by. - the essay written by Peter Kuo and as he points out Coppola had just made the "Godfather" which was making gillions of dollars and of course had enormously big, stars and was a super major production from Paramount Pictures - and Coppola was pleased with it in a lot o... | and "the conversation" is an example, written by - the essay written by peter kuo and as he points out, coppola had just made the "godfather" which was making gillions of dollars and of course, had enormously big stars and was a super major production from paramount pictures - and coppola was pleased with it in a lot o... |
He wanted to do something that really came out of his own heart and soul. And so he made "The Conversation" and yeah, you know, it had a healthy budget and it has Gene Hackman in it but doesn't have anything like the resources that the "Godfather" had in it. So by that standard, relatively speaking, it is kind of a B... | he wanted to do something that really came out of, his own heart and soul and so he made "the conversation" and yeah you know it had a healthy budget and. it has, gene hackman in, it. but doesn't have anything like the resources that the "godfather" had; in it so by that standard relatively, speaking it is kind of a ... | He wanted to do something that really, came out of his own heart and soul And so he made "The Conversation" and yeah you know it had a healthy budget and it has Gene Hackman in it but, doesn't have anything like the resources, that the "Godfather" had in it So by that standard relatively, speaking it. is kind of a B ... | he wanted to do something that really came out of his own heart and soul. and so he made "the conversation" and yeah, you know, it had a healthy budget and it has gene hackman in it but doesn't have anything like the resources that the "godfather" had in it. so by that standard, relatively speaking, it is kind of a b... |
We're talking with David Sterritt, the co-editor along with John Anderson of "The B List: The National Society of Film Critics on the Low-Budget Beauties, Genre-Bending Mavericks, and Cult Classics We Love." And you're listening to Talk of the Nation, which is coming to you from NPR News. And of course, we can't skip... | we're talking with david sterritt the co-editor along with john anderson of "the b list: the national society of film critics on the low-budget beauties, genre-bending mavericks and cult classics we love" and you're listening to talk of the, nation which is coming to. you from npr news and of, course we can't skip an... | We're talking with David Sterritt the co-editor along with John Anderson of "The B List: The National Society of Film Critics on the Low-Budget Beauties. Genre-Bending Mavericks and Cult Classics We Love" And you're listening to Talk. of the Nation which is coming to you from NPR News And of course we can't skip anot... | we're talking with david sterritt, the co-editor along with john anderson of "the b list: the national society of film critics on the low-budget beauties, genre-bending mavericks, and cult classics we love." and you're listening to talk of the nation, which is coming to you from npr news. and of course, we can't skip... |
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Yeah, you know the Western is one of those genres that's always dying and yet refuses to die. As we speak, "Appaloosa" is playing and it's a wonderful movie with big stars and big production values and a lot of interesting things going for it. But back in the day, there were a lot of westerns that were made with very... | yeah you know the western is one of those genres that's always dying and yet. refuses to die as we speak, "appaloosa" is playing. and. it's a wonderful movie with big stars and. big production values and a lot of interesting things going for it. but back in the day there, were a, lot of westerns that, were made with ... | Yeah you know the Western is one of, those, genres that's always dying and yet refuses to die As we speak "Appaloosa" is playing and it's a wonderful movie with big stars and. big production values, and a lot of interesting. things going for. it But back in, the day there were a lot; of westerns that were made with v... | yeah, you know the western is one of those genres that's always dying and yet refuses to die. as we speak, "appaloosa" is playing and it's a wonderful movie with big stars and big production values and a lot of interesting things going for it. but back in the day, there were a lot of westerns that were made with very... |
And some pretty big actors like Gary Cooper, like James Cagney was in a couple of Westerns, you don't think of that and of course, Randolph Scott, Jimmy Stewart. I think Jimmy Stewart's classic roles are Westerns. Anyway, here's some emails. This is from Nick in Mystic, Connecticut: What about Robert Rodriguez's "E... | and some pretty, big actors like gary cooper like james cagney was, in a couple of westerns you don't. think of that and of course randolph scott jimmy stewart i think jimmy stewart's classic roles are. westerns anyway here's some emails this. is from nick in mystic connecticut: what about robert rodriguez's "el ma... | And some pretty big actors like Gary Cooper like James Cagney, was in a couple of Westerns you don't think of that and of, course Randolph Scott Jimmy, Stewart I think Jimmy Stewart's; classic roles are Westerns Anyway here's, some emails; This is from, Nick in Mystic, Connecticut: What about Robert Rodriguez's "El... | and some pretty big actors like gary cooper, like james cagney was in a couple of westerns, you don't think of that and of course, randolph scott, jimmy stewart. i think jimmy stewart's classic roles are westerns. anyway, here's some emails. this is from nick in mystic, connecticut: what about robert rodriguez's "e... |
Yeah. And again, Rodriguez has already come up in this conversation with regard to "Grindhouse," which is in the book. And Rodriguez, my own personal view of his secret in his early career when he got launched was that he's just a brilliant film editor and he can take those little pieces of film and he can put them t... | yeah and again rodriguez has already come up in this conversation with, regard. to, "grindhouse" which. is. in the book and rodriguez my own, personal view of, his secret in his early career when. he got launched was that he's. just, a brilliant film editor and he; can take those little, pieces of film and he, can pu... | Yeah And again Rodriguez has already come up, in this conversation with regard. to "Grindhouse" which is in the book And Rodriguez my own personal view of his secret in, his early career when he, got launched was that he's just a, brilliant film editor and he can take those little. pieces of film. and he. can put the... | yeah. and again, rodriguez has already come up in this conversation with regard to "grindhouse," which is in the book. and rodriguez, my own personal view of his secret in his early career when he got launched was that he's just a brilliant film editor and he can take those little pieces of film and he can put them t... |
We're going to hear a lot about Lay and Skilling over the coming months. But Enron's collapse affected tens of thousands of people. Some have had a hard time putting their careers and lives back together. Others have done pretty well. | we're going to, hear a lot about lay and skilling over the coming; months but, enron's collapse affected tens of thousands of people, some have had a hard time, putting their careers and lives back together others have done pretty | We're going to hear a lot about Lay and Skilling over the. coming months But Enron's collapse affected tens of thousands. of people Some have had a hard time putting their careers and lives back. together Others have done pretty | we're going to hear a lot about lay and skilling over the coming months. but enron's collapse affected tens of thousands of people. some have had a hard time putting their careers and lives back together. others have done pretty well. |
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And we're going to let some e-mailers have some words here, just to give them some chance here. Tony in Cincinnati, Ohio: 'My favorite movie of all time is a B list movie, "The Big Lebowski." It is perhaps the most quotable movie I've ever seen. I highly recommend it to everyone I know that loves B movies. This is... | and we're going to let some e-mailers have some words here just to give them some chance here tony in cincinnati ohio: 'my favorite. movie of all time, is a b list movie "the big lebowski" it is perhaps the most. quotable movie i've ever. seen, i highly recommend it, to everyone i, know. that loves b movies this i... | And we're going to let some e-mailers have some words here just to give them some chance, here Tony in Cincinnati Ohio: 'My favorite movie of all time is a B, list movie "The Big. Lebowski" It is. perhaps the most quotable movie I've ever seen I highly recommend, it to everyone I know that loves B movies This is f... | and we're going to let some e-mailers have some words here, just to give them some chance here. tony in cincinnati, ohio: 'my favorite movie of all time is a b list movie, "the big lebowski." it is perhaps the most quotable movie i've ever seen. i highly recommend it to everyone i know that loves b movies. this is... |
An injured war hero, blind pianist who writes toned poems. A creepy and menacing housekeeper who wears all black has a heart of gold and an attempt to make Dorothy McGuire ugly with a little bit of pale lipstick and an eyebrow pencil. It's the perfect movie for a cold autumn day. Pop some corn, brew some tea, leave ... | an injured war hero blind pianist who writes toned poems a creepy, and menacing housekeeper who, wears all. black has a heart of gold and an attempt to make dorothy mcguire ugly with a little bit. of pale lipstick and an eyebrow pencil it's the perfect movie for a cold autumn day pop some corn brew some tea leave yo... | An injured. war hero blind pianist who writes. toned poems A creepy and menacing housekeeper who wears all black has a heart of gold and an attempt to make Dorothy; McGuire ugly with a little bit, of pale lipstick and an eyebrow pencil It's the perfect movie for a cold autumn. day Pop some corn brew, some tea leave ... | an injured war hero, blind pianist who writes toned poems. a creepy and menacing housekeeper who wears all black has a heart of gold and an attempt to make dorothy mcguire ugly with a little bit of pale lipstick and an eyebrow pencil. it's the perfect movie for a cold autumn day. pop some corn, brew some tea, leave ... |
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Unidentified Man 2: I thought it was O'Neill's turn tonight. | unidentified man 2: i thought it was o'neill's turn | Unidentified Man 2: I thought it was O'Neill's turn | unidentified man 2: i thought it was o'neill's turn tonight. |
Unidentified Man 1: No no no no no. Tubs and more houses are short. Two shanks is going on R and R tomorrow and you want to send them out on an ambush. Uh uh, you got the fresh mean, buddy. | unidentified man 1: no no no no no tubs; and more houses are short two shanks is going on r and r tomorrow and. you want to send them out on an ambush uh uh you got the fresh mean | Unidentified Man 1: No. no no, no no Tubs and more houses are short Two. shanks is going on R, and R tomorrow and you want to send them out on an ambush Uh uh, you got the fresh. mean | unidentified man 1: no no no no no. tubs and more houses are short. two shanks is going on r and r tomorrow and you want to send them out on an ambush. uh uh, you got the fresh mean, buddy. |
Unidentified Man 2: They don't know Barnes and chances are, we're going to run in to something, think about it. | unidentified man 2: they don't know barnes and chances are we're going to run in to something think about | Unidentified Man 2: They don't know Barnes and chances are we're going to run in to something, think about | unidentified man 2: they don't know barnes and chances are, we're going to run in to something, think about it. |
Unidentified Man 1: That's just great, Bob. What do you want me to do? Send one of my guys out to get zapped so some lame ass just in from the woke and get his beauty sleep? No! | unidentified man 1: that's just. great bob what do you want me to do? send one of my guys out to get zapped so some lame ass just in from the woke and get his, beauty | Unidentified Man 1: That's just great Bob, What do you want me to do? Send one of my guys out to get zapped so some lame ass just in from the woke and get his beauty | unidentified man 1: that's just great, bob. what do you want me to do? send one of my guys out to get zapped so some lame ass just in from the woke and get his beauty sleep? no! |
A clip from Oliver Stone's "Platoon." Of course, he's got a new picture coming out. We'll have to see whether it qualifies as a B movie or not. David Sterritt, thank you very much for your time. | a clip from oliver stone's "platoon" of course he's got a new picture coming out we'll have to see whether; it qualifies as a. b movie or not david sterritt. thank you very much for your. | A; clip from, Oliver Stone's "Platoon" Of, course he's got a; new picture coming out We'll have to see whether it qualifies as a B movie, or not David Sterritt, thank you very. much for. your, | a clip from oliver stone's "platoon." of course, he's got a new picture coming out. we'll have to see whether it qualifies as a b movie or not. david sterritt, thank you very much for your time. |
Thanks for having me, Neal. | thanks for having me | Thanks. for having me | thanks for having me, neal. |
David Sterritt, co-editor of the book "The B List: The National Society of Film Critics on the Low-Budget Beauties, Genre-Bending Mavericks, and Cult Classics We Love." He's a film professor at Columbia University and the chairman of the National Society of Film Critics and he joined us from the studios of the Product... | david sterritt co-editor of the book "the b list: the national. society of film critics on the. low-budget beauties genre-bending mavericks and cult classics we love" he's. a film professor. at columbia; university and the chairman of the national society of film critics and he joined us from the studios of the produc... | David Sterritt co-editor of the book "The B List: The National Society of Film, Critics on the Low-Budget Beauties Genre-Bending Mavericks and Cult Classics We Love" He's a film professor at Columbia University and the chairman of the National Society of. Film Critics and he joined us from. the studios, of, the Produc... | david sterritt, co-editor of the book "the b list: the national society of film critics on the low-budget beauties, genre-bending mavericks, and cult classics we love." he's a film professor at columbia university and the chairman of the national society of film critics and he joined us from the studios of the product... |
Arizona has only sent 11 senators to Washington in the state's history. Those senators have generally been mainstream conservative, white men. The 2018 race is much more dynamic. Headlines have described the Arizona race as a free-for-all and bedlam. Here to talk with us about it is Arizona Republic political columnist... | arizona has only sent 11 senators to washington in the state's history those senators have generally been mainstream conservative white men the 2018 race; is much more, dynamic headlines have described the arizona. race as a free-for-all and bedlam here to talk with us about it is arizona republic political columnist l... | Arizona; has only sent 11 senators to Washington in the state's history Those senators have generally been mainstream conservative white men The; 2018 race is much more dynamic Headlines, have described the. Arizona race as a free-for-all and bedlam Here to talk, with us about it is Arizona. Republic political columnis... | arizona has only sent 11 senators to washington in the state's history. those senators have generally been mainstream conservative, white men. the 2018 race is much more dynamic. headlines have described the arizona race as a free-for-all and bedlam. here to talk with us about it is arizona republic political columnist... |
Thank you for having me. | thank you for having | Thank you for having, | thank you for having me. |
So Senator Jeff Flake is retiring in 2018. And this is a delicate question, but we need to acknowledge that Senator John McCain is being treated for brain cancer and may retire before the 2018 election. Do people in Arizona see this as a race for one seat or possibly two? | so senator jeff. flake is retiring in 2018. and this is a delicate, question but we need to acknowledge that senator john mccain is being treated for brain cancer and may retire before the, 2018 election, do people in, arizona see this as a race for one seat or possibly | So Senator, Jeff Flake is retiring. in 2018. And this is a delicate question but we need to acknowledge that Senator John McCain is being treated for brain, cancer and may retire before the 2018 election Do. people, in Arizona see this as a, race for one seat or possibly | so senator jeff flake is retiring in 2018. and this is a delicate question, but we need to acknowledge that senator john mccain is being treated for brain cancer and may retire before the 2018 election. do people in arizona see this as a race for one seat or possibly two? |
Well, you know, it's a difficult thing to talk about. But in private, everybody sees it as a race for two seats. Many people thought that one of the candidates - one of the leading candidates has actually held off announcing, thinking that she might simply be appointed to an open spot. But that has of course not happen... | well you, know it's a difficult, thing to talk about; but in private everybody sees it as a, race for two; seats, many people thought that one of the candidates - one of the leading candidates has actually held off announcing thinking that she might simply be. appointed to an open spot but that has of course not | Well you know it's a difficult thing to talk about But in private everybody sees it as a race for two seats Many people thought that one of the candidates - one of the. leading candidates has actually held off announcing thinking that. she might simply be appointed to an open spot But that has of course not | well, you know, it's a difficult thing to talk about. but in private, everybody sees it as a race for two seats. many people thought that one of the candidates - one of the leading candidates has actually held off announcing, thinking that she might simply be appointed to an open spot. but that has of course not happen... |
It's a crowded field, and perhaps the most controversial candidate is the Republican former Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Phoenix, who had a conviction in criminal court. He was pardoned by President Trump. Does he have a substantial base of support? | it's a crowded field and perhaps the most controversial, candidate is the republican former sheriff joe arpaio, of phoenix who had a conviction in criminal court he was pardoned, by president trump does he have a substantial base of | It's a crowded field and perhaps the most. controversial candidate is the Republican former Sheriff, Joe Arpaio of Phoenix who had a conviction in criminal court He was pardoned by President. Trump Does. he, have a; substantial base of | it's a crowded field, and perhaps the most controversial candidate is the republican former sheriff joe arpaio of phoenix, who had a conviction in criminal court. he was pardoned by president trump. does he have a substantial base of support? |
He certainly does have a substantial base of support. He always has, and he probably always will. He will play that as he's a victim of a Obama Justice Department vendetta against him because he was trying to enforce our laws against illegal immigration. And a sizable portion of Maricopa County Republican voters would ... | he certainly does have a substantial base of support he always has and he, probably always will he will play. that as he's a victim of a obama justice department vendetta against him because he was. trying to enforce our laws against illegal immigration. and a sizable portion of maricopa, county republican voters would... | He certainly does have a substantial base of support He always has and he probably always will He will play that as he's a, victim of a Obama Justice Department vendetta against him because he was trying to enforce our laws against illegal immigration And. a sizable, portion. of Maricopa County Republican voters would ... | he certainly does have a substantial base of support. he always has, and he probably always will. he will play that as he's a victim of a obama justice department vendetta against him because he was trying to enforce our laws against illegal immigration. and a sizable portion of maricopa county republican voters would ... |
Does his entering the race effectively - I don't know if you would say cancel out Kelli Ward. She's a candidate who had been backed by Steve Bannon. She was trying to appeal to the Trump voter base. | does his entering the race effectively - i don't know if you would say cancel out, kelli ward she's a candidate who had been backed by steve bannon she was trying to appeal to the, trump voter | Does his entering the race effectively - I don't. know if you would say cancel out Kelli Ward She's. a candidate who had, been backed by Steve Bannon She was trying to, appeal to the Trump voter | does his entering the race effectively - i don't know if you would say cancel out kelli ward. she's a candidate who had been backed by steve bannon. she was trying to appeal to the trump voter base. |
Well, I don't think she feels canceled out. But the conventional wisdom is around here that their base of support is exactly the same. And those who might have supported Kelli Ward will quickly gravitate over to Joe Arpaio. Now, she'll keep a few people because some people think that 85, 86 years old is a little old to... | well i don't think she feels canceled out but the conventional wisdom is around here that their base of support is exactly, the same and those who might, have supported kelli, ward will. quickly gravitate over to joe arpaio now she'll keep a few people because some people think that 85, 86 years old is a little old to ... | Well I don't think she feels canceled out But the, conventional wisdom. is around here that, their base of support, is exactly, the same And those who might have supported. Kelli Ward will quickly, gravitate. over. to Joe Arpaio Now she'll keep a few people because some, people think that 85, 86 years old is a little o... | well, i don't think she feels canceled out. but the conventional wisdom is around here that their base of support is exactly the same. and those who might have supported kelli ward will quickly gravitate over to joe arpaio. now, she'll keep a few people because some people think that 85, 86 years old is a little old to... |
That's Arpaio's age, yeah. | that's arpaio's age | That's, Arpaio's age | that's arpaio's age, yeah. |
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