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Gee, it's hard to pick one that stands above all. Our mission is to fight racial discrimination and sadly, that's still a pressing problem in the United States. So we'll be talking about the many different ways one can go about fighting this ancient problem.	gee it's hard to pick, one, that stands above all our mission is to fight racial discrimination and sadly. that's still a, pressing problem in the united, states so we'll. be talking about the many different ways one can go about fighting this ancient	Gee it's hard to pick one that stands above, all Our mission is to fight, racial. discrimination and sadly that's still a pressing problem. in the United States So we'll be talking about the many different ways one can go, about fighting this ancient	gee, it's hard to pick one that stands above all. our mission is to fight racial discrimination and sadly, that's still a pressing problem in the united states. so we'll be talking about the many different ways one can go about fighting this ancient problem.
How did you feel personally when you heard the Supreme Court's desegregation ruling, which a lot of people are saying is rolling back the clock on issues that the NAACP and other organizations championed?	how did you. feel personally when you heard the supreme court's desegregation ruling which. a, lot of, people are saying is rolling. back the clock on issues that. the; naacp and. other organizations	How did you feel personally when you heard the Supreme Court's desegregation ruling which a lot of people are saying is rolling back the clock on issues that the NAACP and other organizations	how did you feel personally when you heard the supreme court's desegregation ruling, which a lot of people are saying is rolling back the clock on issues that the naacp and other organizations championed?
Well, it's absolutely rolling back the clock. You know, they took the position that race can't be used under any circumstances in trying to eliminate racial discrimination. And, of course, you cannot eliminate racial discrimination without using race. So this was a severe setback. And one can only hope that school dist...	well it's absolutely rolling back the clock you know they took the position that race can't be used; under any circumstances in trying, to eliminate racial; discrimination and of course you cannot eliminate racial discrimination without using race so this was a severe setback and one can; only, hope that school distric...	Well it's absolutely rolling back the clock. You know they took the position that race can't be used under, any circumstances in trying to eliminate racial discrimination And of course you cannot eliminate racial discrimination without using race, So this was a severe setback And one can only hope that school, district...	well, it's absolutely rolling back the clock. you know, they took the position that race can't be used under any circumstances in trying to eliminate racial discrimination. and, of course, you cannot eliminate racial discrimination without using race. so this was a severe setback. and one can only hope that school dist...
Let me turn to black folks in the war. You have a situation where African-Americans have consistently been less pleased with the president's handling of the war, with the overall status of the war. And now you have a situation where the military is essentially hemorrhaging black military members. You have a 40 percent ...	let me turn to black folks in the war you have a situation where african-americans have consistently been less pleased with the president's handling of the war, with the overall status of the war and now you have a situation where the military is essentially hemorrhaging black military members you have a 40 percent dec...	Let me, turn to black folks in the war You; have a situation where African-Americans have consistently been less pleased with the president's handling. of the war with the overall status of the war And. now you, have a situation where the military. is essentially hemorrhaging black military; members You have a. 40 perc...	let me turn to black folks in the war. you have a situation where african-americans have consistently been less pleased with the president's handling of the war, with the overall status of the war. and now you have a situation where the military is essentially hemorrhaging black military members. you have a 40 percent ...
Well, we're proud to say that we oppose the war before it started. We were on the right side of history from the very first. The news about the lessening numbers of blacks in the service, leaving a part the issue of the war, is bad news because the American military has generally been a place where upward mobility is o...	well, we're proud to say that we oppose the war before it started we were on the, right side of history from; the very first the news about the lessening numbers of blacks in the service leaving a part the issue of the war is bad news because the american, military has. generally been a place where upward mobility is o...	Well, we're proud to say that we oppose the war before it started We, were on the right side of history from the very, first The news about. the lessening. numbers of blacks in the service leaving a part the issue of the war is bad. news because the American, military has generally been a. place where, upward mobility ...	well, we're proud to say that we oppose the war before it started. we were on the right side of history from the very first. the news about the lessening numbers of blacks in the service, leaving a part the issue of the war, is bad news because the american military has generally been a place where upward mobility is o...
It is a relatively fair segment of our society. It's a place where people who aren't sure about what their role in life may be, find a place where they can exercise their talents. So it's bad news that the numbers are going down. But I guess it's a reflection of the great unpopularity of the war.	it is a relatively fair segment of our society it's a place where people, who aren't sure. about what their role in life may be find a place where they can exercise their talents so it's bad news that the numbers are going down but i guess it's a reflection of the great. unpopularity, of the	It is, a. relatively fair segment of our; society It's a place where people who aren't, sure about what their, role, in life may be find a place; where they; can exercise their; talents, So it's bad news that the numbers are going down But I guess it's, a reflection of the great, unpopularity of the	it is a relatively fair segment of our society. it's a place where people who aren't sure about what their role in life may be, find a place where they can exercise their talents. so it's bad news that the numbers are going down. but i guess it's a reflection of the great unpopularity of the war.
So let's turn a little bit to the federal government. Last year, the president spoke at the convention, but it took five years to get him to play ball. Have you met with President Bush since?	so let's. turn a little bit to the federal government last year the president spoke at the convention but it took five years to get him to play ball have you met. with president bush	So let's turn a little bit to the federal government Last year the president spoke at the convention but it took five years to get him to play, ball Have you met. with President Bush	so let's turn a little bit to the federal government. last year, the president spoke at the convention, but it took five years to get him to play ball. have you met with president bush since?
I've not personally met with him, but members of our organization have met with him. My vice-chair, Roslyn Brock, was in the White House about three or four weeks ago and had a quick conversation with the president. So relations are better than they used to be. The bad news is that we asked all of the presidential cand...	i've not personally met with him but members of our organization have met with; him my vice-chair roslyn brock was. in the white house about three or four weeks ago and had a quick conversation with the president so relations. are better than they used to be the bad news is that we asked all of the presidential candida...	I've not personally met with him, but members of our organization have met with him My vice-chair Roslyn Brock was in the White House about three or four weeks ago and had a quick conversation with, the president So relations are better than they used to be The bad news is that we asked all of the presidential candidat...	i've not personally met with him, but members of our organization have met with him. my vice-chair, roslyn brock, was in the white house about three or four weeks ago and had a quick conversation with the president. so relations are better than they used to be. the bad news is that we asked all of the presidential cand...
Do the Republicans then think that it's a lost cause because of the overwhelming numbers of support for the Democratic Party among black voters?	do the republicans then think that it's a lost cause because of the overwhelming numbers of support for. the. democratic party among black	Do the Republicans then think that it's a lost cause because of the overwhelming numbers of support for the Democratic Party among black.	do the republicans then think that it's a lost cause because of the overwhelming numbers of support for the democratic party among black voters?
Well, if they do, it goes against what they've been saying all along. They keep saying they want to reach out to racial minorities who haven't been friendly to the Republican Party. President Bush himself told us when he spoke to us that black Americans don't trust the Republican Party. Well, if that's true, one way to...	well if they do it goes against what, they've been saying all along they keep saying they want to reach out to racial minorities who haven't been friendly. to the republican. party president bush himself told us when he spoke to us that black americans don't trust the. republican party well if that's true one way to ov...	Well if they do it goes against what they've been saying all along They keep saying they want to reach out to racial minorities who haven't been friendly to the Republican Party, President Bush. himself told, us when he spoke to us that black Americans don't trust the Republican Party Well if that's true one way to ove...	well, if they do, it goes against what they've been saying all along. they keep saying they want to reach out to racial minorities who haven't been friendly to the republican party. president bush himself told us when he spoke to us that black americans don't trust the republican party. well, if that's true, one way to...
One person who is stepping up to have his say is Michael Chertoff, secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. There's been these issues of domestic surveillance, just had a court case thrown out against the president. Why did you select Mr. Chertoff? What is it important for him to say to your audience?	one person, who; is stepping up to; have his say is michael chertoff secretary of the department of homeland security there's been these issues of domestic surveillance just had a, court case thrown out against the president, why did you select mr chertoff? what is it important for him to say to your	One person who is stepping up to have his say. is Michael Chertoff secretary of the Department, of Homeland Security There's been these. issues of. domestic surveillance just had a court, case. thrown out, against the president Why did you select Mr Chertoff? What is it important for him to say to your	one person who is stepping up to have his say is michael chertoff, secretary of the department of homeland security. there's been these issues of domestic surveillance, just had a court case thrown out against the president. why did you select mr. chertoff? what is it important for him to say to your audience?
Well, he's speaking at our military dinner. We annually have a military dinner. Generally, we have a military figure speak to it. Now you can't say that Secretary Chertoff is a military person, but he heads a quasi-military agency, one that is supposed to be watching our security and making sure that what happened on 9...	well he's speaking at our military dinner we annually have a military dinner generally we have a military figure speak to it now you can't say that secretary chertoff is a military. person. but he heads a quasi-military agency one that is supposed. to be watching our security and making sure that. what happened on 9/11...	Well he's speaking at our military dinner We annually have a military dinner Generally we, have a military figure speak to it Now you can't say that Secretary Chertoff is a military. person but he heads a quasi-military agency one that is, supposed. to. be watching our security and making sure that what; happened on. 9...	well, he's speaking at our military dinner. we annually have a military dinner. generally, we have a military figure speak to it. now you can't say that secretary chertoff is a military person, but he heads a quasi-military agency, one that is supposed to be watching our security and making sure that what happened on 9...
I want to turn now to the NAACP itself. Your group's last president and CEO, Bruce Gordon, resigned in March fairly suddenly. You've trimmed your staff, sautered(ph) your regional offices.	i want to turn now to the naacp itself your group's last president and ceo bruce gordon resigned in march fairly suddenly you've trimmed your staff sautered(ph) your regional	I want to turn, now to the NAACP itself Your group's last president. and CEO Bruce. Gordon resigned in March fairly suddenly You've trimmed your staff sautered(ph) your regional	i want to turn now to the naacp itself. your group's last president and ceo, bruce gordon, resigned in march fairly suddenly. you've trimmed your staff, sautered(ph) your regional offices.
And last month, NPR's Tony Cox spoke with NAACP Interim President and CEO Dennis Hayes. He was responding to a question about the role Bruce Gordon's sudden departure may have had on the group's financial condition.	and last month npr's tony cox spoke with; naacp interim president and ceo dennis hayes he was; responding to. a question about the role bruce gordon's sudden departure may have had on the group's financial.	And last month NPR's. Tony Cox spoke with NAACP Interim President and CEO, Dennis Hayes He, was responding to a question about the role Bruce Gordon's sudden departure may have had on the group's, financial	and last month, npr's tony cox spoke with naacp interim president and ceo dennis hayes. he was responding to a question about the role bruce gordon's sudden departure may have had on the group's financial condition.
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Just to be clear, none of these lawmakers who Trump is talking about are saying that they want to leave this country or that they do not love this country. In fact, they're saying the opposite. They have opposed Trump on many of his policies. But Trump, as a private citizen, opposed former President Obama and his admin...	just to be clear none, of these lawmakers who trump is talking about are saying that they want to leave this country or that they do not, love this country in fact they're saying the, opposite they have opposed trump on many. of his policies but; trump as a private citizen opposed former president obama and. his admini...	Just to be clear none of these lawmakers who Trump is talking about are saying that they want to leave this country or that they, do not love this country In fact they're saying, the opposite They have opposed Trump on many of his policies But Trump as a private citizen opposed former President Obama, and his administr...	just to be clear, none of these lawmakers who trump is talking about are saying that they want to leave this country or that they do not love this country. in fact, they're saying the opposite. they have opposed trump on many of his policies. but trump, as a private citizen, opposed former president obama and his admin...
Right. He is criticizing people for doings things that he himself has done. I mean, it feels important, Ayesha, to set all of this current controversy in a broader context, which is that Trump's language on race has been racist before. From the day he announced his campaign four years ago, there's a pattern. There's a ...	right he is criticizing people for doings things that he himself has done i mean it feels; important ayesha. to set all of this current controversy, in a broader context which is that, trump's language on race has been racist before from the day he announced his campaign four, years ago there's a pattern there's. a	Right He is criticizing people for doings, things. that he himself has done I mean it feels important Ayesha to set all of this current controversy in a broader context which is that Trump's language on race has been racist before, From the day he announced his campaign four years ago there's a pattern There's a	right. he is criticizing people for doings things that he himself has done. i mean, it feels important, ayesha, to set all of this current controversy in a broader context, which is that trump's language on race has been racist before. from the day he announced his campaign four years ago, there's a pattern. there's a ...
It's a part of a long pattern. When he announced that he was running for president, he talked about some Mexicans, calling them rapists. He said, even before he became president, during the campaign, he talked about a Mexican judge and said he couldn't fairly decide his case. And, of course, he made a name for himself ...	it's a part of a long pattern when he announced that he was running for president he talked about some mexicans calling them, rapists he, said even before he became president during the campaign he talked about a mexican judge and said he couldn't fairly, decide his case and of course he made a name for himself before ...	It's a part of a long pattern When he announced that he was. running, for president he talked about, some Mexicans calling them rapists He said even before. he became president during the campaign he talked about a Mexican judge and said he couldn't fairly decide his case And of course he made a name for himself before...	it's a part of a long pattern. when he announced that he was running for president, he talked about some mexicans, calling them rapists. he said, even before he became president, during the campaign, he talked about a mexican judge and said he couldn't fairly decide his case. and, of course, he made a name for himself ...
So we heard from these four lawmakers earlier today. They held an afternoon press conference on Capitol Hill. Here's a little bit of what Congresswoman Ilhan Omar had to say.	so we heard from these four lawmakers earlier today they held an afternoon press conference on, capitol hill here's a little bit of what congresswoman ilhan omar had to	So we heard from these four lawmakers earlier today They, held an afternoon press conference on Capitol Hill; Here's a little bit of what Congresswoman Ilhan Omar had to	so we heard from these four lawmakers earlier today. they held an afternoon press conference on capitol hill. here's a little bit of what congresswoman ilhan omar had to say.
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Every single statement that we make is from a place of extreme love for every single person in this country. It is part of the mandate of why we ran for office and why we got elected.	every single statement that we make is from a place of extreme love, for every. single person in this country. it is part of, the mandate. of. why we ran for office and why, we got	Every single statement that we make is from a place of extreme love for every single person in this country It is part of the mandate of why we ran for office and why we. got	every single statement that we make is from a place of extreme love for every single person in this country. it is part of the mandate of why we ran for office and why we got elected.
And as I mentioned, Ayesha, Democrats have been very quick to condemn the president's comments here. What about Republicans?	and as i mentioned ayesha democrats have. been very quick to condemn the president's comments here what about	And as I mentioned Ayesha Democrats have been very quick, to condemn the president's comments here What about;	and as i mentioned, ayesha, democrats have been very quick to condemn the president's comments here. what about republicans?
So Republicans were mostly quiet yesterday, but you do have a number of Republicans at this point speaking up. You had Republican Lindsey Graham, who said the president should aim higher. I guess aim higher with his critiques. But he then also called these Democrats communists, so that was Lindsey Graham. And then you ...	so republicans were mostly quiet yesterday but you do have a number of republicans at this point, speaking up you had republican lindsey graham who said the president should aim higher i guess aim higher with his critiques but he then also. called these democrats communists so that was lindsey graham, and then. you had...	So Republicans were mostly quiet yesterday but you do have a number of Republicans at this point speaking up You. had Republican Lindsey Graham who said the president. should aim higher I guess aim higher with his critiques But he then also called these Democrats communists so, that was Lindsey Graham And. then you had...	so republicans were mostly quiet yesterday, but you do have a number of republicans at this point speaking up. you had republican lindsey graham, who said the president should aim higher. i guess aim higher with his critiques. but he then also called these democrats communists, so that was lindsey graham. and then you ...
Thanks, Ayesha.	thanks	Thanks	thanks, ayesha.
Thank you.	thank	Thank	thank you.
NPR's Ayesha Rascoe.	npr's ayesha	NPR's Ayesha	npr's ayesha rascoe.
A chorus of concern about the resignation of former General Jim Mattis as secretary of defense this week. Mr. Mattis personally handed a letter of resignation to the president, which courteously but unmistakably accused the president of not treating traditional U.S. allies well and disregarding the threat of China, Rus...	a chorus of concern about the resignation of former general jim mattis as; secretary of defense this week mr mattis personally handed a letter of, resignation. to the president which courteously but unmistakably accused the president of not, treating traditional. u.s allies well and disregarding the threat of china rus...	A chorus of concern about the resignation of former General Jim Mattis as secretary of defense this week Mr Mattis personally handed, a letter of resignation to the president which courteously but. unmistakably accused, the president of not treating traditional U.S allies well and disregarding the threat of China Russi...	a chorus of concern about the resignation of former general jim mattis as secretary of defense this week. mr. mattis personally handed a letter of resignation to the president, which courteously but unmistakably accused the president of not treating traditional u.s. allies well and disregarding the threat of china, rus...
It's a great pleasure.	it's a great,	It's a great	it's a great pleasure.
You knew Secretary Mattis, of course. What do you think went into his decision to leave now?	you knew secretary mattis of course what do you think went into his decision to leave	You knew, Secretary Mattis of course What do you think went into his decision to leave	you knew secretary mattis, of course. what do you think went into his decision to leave now?
Well, I think Secretary Mattis spoke very forcefully for himself that the president has a view of the world that is making America less safe and likely less prosperous by denigrating our friends and allies and encouraging challenges by our adversaries and rising powers. And I thought there were two really important poi...	well i, think secretary mattis spoke very forcefully for himself that the president. has a view of the world that, is making america less safe and likely less prosperous by denigrating our friends and allies and encouraging challenges by our adversaries and rising powers and i thought there were two really important po...	Well I think Secretary Mattis, spoke very forcefully for himself that the president has a view of. the world that is making America less safe and likely less prosperous by denigrating our friends, and allies and encouraging challenges by our adversaries and rising, powers And I thought, there were two really important ...	well, i think secretary mattis spoke very forcefully for himself that the president has a view of the world that is making america less safe and likely less prosperous by denigrating our friends and allies and encouraging challenges by our adversaries and rising powers. and i thought there were two really important poi...
I noted that line, too, you have the right to have a secretary of defense whose views are better aligned with yours. But, practically, speaking as someone who's been in government, do you worry that President Trump is only going to hear his own viewpoint echoed over and over again and not independent thinking in areas ...	i noted that line too you have the right to have a secretary. of defense whose views are better aligned with. yours but practically speaking as someone who's been in government do you worry that president. trump is only going to hear his own, viewpoint echoed over and over again and not independent thinking, in. areas ...	I noted that line, too you, have the right to have a secretary of defense whose views are better aligned with yours But practically speaking, as someone who's been in government do you. worry that President Trump is only going to hear his own viewpoint echoed over and over again and not independent thinking in areas. l...	i noted that line, too, you have the right to have a secretary of defense whose views are better aligned with yours. but, practically, speaking as someone who's been in government, do you worry that president trump is only going to hear his own viewpoint echoed over and over again and not independent thinking in areas ...
(Laughter) That's an understatement, Scott. Yes, I do think the decisions the president's made in the last year, the personnel decisions in particular, have been determined to push away people who have views different than his own and to reinforce his own preferences. He's got a right to that. Congress also has a reall...	(laughter) that's an. understatement scott yes i do think the decisions the president's made in the last year the personnel decisions in particular have been determined to push away people, who have views different than his own and to reinforce his own preferences he's got a right to that congress also has a really imp...	(Laughter) That's an understatement Scott Yes I, do think the decisions the president's, made in the last year the personnel decisions in particular have been determined. to push, away people who have, views, different than his own and to reinforce, his, own preferences He's got a right to that, Congress. also has. a r...	(laughter) that's an understatement, scott. yes, i do think the decisions the president's made in the last year, the personnel decisions in particular, have been determined to push away people who have views different than his own and to reinforce his own preferences. he's got a right to that. congress also has a reall...
It was pretty openly reported over these past couple of years that Secretary Mattis, General Kelly and Secretary of State Tillerson had a kind of working agreement not to leave President Trump on his own with major decisions. Was this always a little unworkable and even patronizing? I mean, Donald Trump was elected pre...	it was pretty openly, reported over these past couple of years that secretary mattis general kelly and secretary of state tillerson had a kind of. working agreement not to leave president trump on his own with major decisions was this always a little unworkable and even patronizing? i mean donald trump was elected; pre...	It was pretty openly reported over these past couple of years that Secretary Mattis General Kelly and Secretary of State Tillerson had. a kind of. working agreement not to leave President Trump on his own with major decisions Was this always a little unworkable and even patronizing? I mean Donald Trump was elected pres...	it was pretty openly reported over these past couple of years that secretary mattis, general kelly and secretary of state tillerson had a kind of working agreement not to leave president trump on his own with major decisions. was this always a little unworkable and even patronizing? i mean, donald trump was elected pre...
I would be astonished if that rumor were true because that would be an act of real unprofessionalism on all three of their parts. And I think all three of them are more professional than to have engaged in that. Moreover, as the history of it played out, it wasn't true, right (laughter)? So...	i would be astonished, if that rumor were true because that would be an act of real unprofessionalism on all; three of their parts and i think all, three of them are more professional than to have engaged in that moreover as the history of it played out it wasn't true right	I would be astonished if that rumor were; true, because that would, be an act of real unprofessionalism on all three of their parts And I think all three of them are more professional, than. to have engaged in that Moreover as the; history of it played out it wasn't true right	i would be astonished if that rumor were true because that would be an act of real unprofessionalism on all three of their parts. and i think all three of them are more professional than to have engaged in that. moreover, as the history of it played out, it wasn't true, right (laughter)? so...
Another major story that might have been overlooked in a busy week - North Korea said this week it won't denuclearize until U.S. withdraws forces from South Korea and Japan. Do you have...	another major story that might have; been overlooked in a busy week - north korea said this week it won't denuclearize until u.s withdraws forces. from south korea and japan do you	Another major story that might have been overlooked in a busy week - North Korea said this week it won't denuclearize until, U.S. withdraws forces from; South Korea and Japan Do; you	another major story that might have been overlooked in a busy week - north korea said this week it won't denuclearize until u.s. withdraws forces from south korea and japan. do you have...
That has...	that	That	that has...
Yes, go ahead.	yes go,	Yes go	yes, go ahead.
I'm sorry. I was just going to say that has been North Korea's position forever. Their view of denuclearization is that they give up their nuclear weapons when the United States gives up its nuclear weapons. We haven't had nuclear weapons stationed in South Korea since 1992. That's not what the North Koreans are talkin...	i'm sorry i, was just going to say. that, has been north korea's position forever their view of denuclearization is that. they give. up their nuclear weapons when the united states gives up its nuclear weapons we haven't had nuclear, weapons stationed in south korea since. 1992. that's not what the north koreans are ta...	I'm sorry, I was just going to say that has been North Korea's position forever Their view of denuclearization is that they give up their nuclear weapons when the United States. gives up its nuclear, weapons We haven't had nuclear weapons stationed in South Korea since 1992. That's not what the North Koreans are talkin...	i'm sorry. i was just going to say that has been north korea's position forever. their view of denuclearization is that they give up their nuclear weapons when the united states gives up its nuclear weapons. we haven't had nuclear weapons stationed in south korea since 1992. that's not what the north koreans are talkin...
So he heard them but didn't understand them.	so, he heard them but didn't understand	So he heard them but didn't understand	so he heard them but didn't understand them.
In the 1950s and 1960s, after World War II, there was no national law about daylight saving time. So any city or town could decide to have daylight saving time, and also could decide on its own when to start it and when to end it. So as daylight saving time became popular, you had the situation where one town wouldn't ...	in the. 1950s and 1960s after world war ii there. was; no, national; law about daylight saving. time so any, city or town could decide to have daylight saving time and also could. decide on its own when to start it and, when to end, it, so as daylight saving time became popular you had the situation, where one town wou...	In the 1950s, and 1960s after World War II there was no national law about daylight saving time So any city or town could decide to have daylight saving time and also could decide on its own when to start. it, and when to end it So as daylight saving time became popular you had the situation where one town wouldn't hav...	in the 1950s and 1960s, after world war ii, there was no national law about daylight saving time. so any city or town could decide to have daylight saving time, and also could decide on its own when to start it and when to end it. so as daylight saving time became popular, you had the situation where one town wouldn't ...