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And then you get the kid who is damned if she wasn't going to be an economist and suddenly sees the light and goes into, you know, geophysics. So that's the whole point of college, though, don't you think? Right? | and then you, get the kid who is damned if she wasn't; going to be an economist and suddenly sees the light, and goes into you know geophysics so that's the whole point of college though don't you | And then. you get the kid who is damned if she wasn't going to be an economist and. suddenly; sees the, light and goes into you know geophysics So that's, the whole point of college though don't you | and then you get the kid who is damned if she wasn't going to be an economist and suddenly sees the light and goes into, you know, geophysics. so that's the whole point of college, though, don't you think? right? |
I'm rooting for my daughter who's studying--she's studying marketing, and she took astronomy courses as a freshman. She says, `Oh, I love this stuff.' | i'm rooting for my, daughter who's studying--she's studying marketing and she took astronomy courses as a freshman she says `oh i love this | I'm rooting for my daughter who's studying--she's studying marketing and she took astronomy courses as a freshman She says `Oh I love, this | i'm rooting for my daughter who's studying--she's studying marketing, and she took astronomy courses as a freshman. she says, `oh, i love this stuff.' |
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
We'll take her. | we'll, take. | We'll, take | we'll take her. |
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Science is so seductive, really... | science is so seductive | Science is so seductive | science is so seductive, really... |
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
...once you really start to get into it. And I don't think in high school typically, unless you're really lucky, you get to see real science, and that's what we aim to do. | ...once you really start to get into it and i don't think in high school typically unless you're really, lucky you, get to see real science and that's what we aim to | ...once you really start to get into it And I don't think in high; school typically unless you're really lucky you get to see real science and that's what we aim to | ...once you really start to get into it. and i don't think in high school typically, unless you're really lucky, you get to see real science, and that's what we aim to do. |
And that is the point. Let me just do a station break. We're talking about teaching science this hour on TALK OF THE NATION/SCIENCE FRIDAY from NPR News. | and that is the, point, let me just do a station break we're talking about teaching science, this hour on talk of the nation/science friday from. npr, | And that is the point Let, me just do a. station break We're, talking about teaching science this hour on TALK OF THE NATION/SCIENCE FRIDAY from NPR | and that is the point. let me just do a station break. we're talking about teaching science this hour on talk of the nation/science friday from npr news. |
And so few people--people, when you're in grade school or whatever, you think exploding stuff and colored water changes and whatever, that is science. And until--your course teaches them a little bit different than that. | and so few people--people; when you're in grade school or whatever you think exploding. stuff and colored water changes and whatever that is; science and, until--your course teaches them a little bit. different than | And so few people--people when you're in grade school or whatever you think exploding stuff and. colored water changes and whatever that. is science And until--your. course teaches them a little bit different than | and so few people--people, when you're in grade school or whatever, you think exploding stuff and colored water changes and whatever, that is science. and until--your course teaches them a little bit different than that. |
Oh, no, we explode things if we have to. | oh no we explode things if we have | Oh no we explode things if we have | oh, no, we explode things if we have to. |
We drop roses into liquid nitrogen... | we. drop roses into liquid | We. drop roses into liquid | we drop roses into liquid nitrogen... |
Right. | right. | ||
...and watch them shatter on the stage. | ...and watch them shatter on the | ...and watch them shatter on the, | ...and watch them shatter on the stage. |
Right. So you get their attention that way. | right so you get their attention that | Right So. you get their attention that | right. so you get their attention that way. |
Science is about curiosity, and almost all children are curious. And this curiosity gets beaten out of them by the deadly, stultifying curricula that they're having to do in K-through-12. So science to them is memorizing the definitions of boldfaced words in books and plugging and chugging numbers ... | science is about curiosity and almost all children are curious and this curiosity gets beaten out of them by the deadly stultifying curricula that they're having to do in k-through-12. so science to them is memorizing the definitions of boldfaced words in books and plugging and chugging numbers int... | Science is about curiosity and almost all, children are curious; And this curiosity gets beaten out of, them by the deadly stultifying curricula that they're having to do in K-through-12. So science to them is. memorizing the definitions of boldfaced words in books and plugging and chugging. number... | science is about curiosity, and almost all children are curious. and this curiosity gets beaten out of them by the deadly, stultifying curricula that they're having to do in k-through-12. so science to them is memorizing the definitions of boldfaced words in books and plugging and chugging numbers ... |
Mm-hmm. | mm-hmm. | ||
Whereas, they haven't seen science at all. | whereas they haven't seen science at | Whereas they haven't seen science at | whereas, they haven't seen science at all. |
But, Dr. Kelley, you're like a walking billboard for science education because you were a very unlikely scientist. Right? Tell us a bit about your background. | but dr; kelley, you're like a walking billboard, for science education because you were a very unlikely scientist right? tell us. a bit about your | But Dr Kelley you're like. a walking billboard for science education because you were a. very unlikely scientist Right? Tell us a. bit about your | but, dr. kelley, you're like a walking billboard for science education because you were a very unlikely scientist. right? tell us a bit about your background. |
Well, you know, I come from a family of humanists and writers. My grandfather was a newspaper man here in New York, Arthur Brisbane. Nobody in my family was ever a scientist. And so I've always hated it when I go to a cocktail party and somebody asks me what I do and I say, you know, `I'm a neuros... | well you know i come from a family of humanists and writers my, grandfather was a newspaper man. here in new york arthur brisbane nobody in my family was ever a scientist and so i've always; hated it when i go to a cocktail party and somebody asks me what i do and i. say you know `i'm a neuroscien... | Well you know I come from a family of humanists and writers My grandfather. was. a newspaper man here in New York Arthur Brisbane Nobody in my family was ever a scientist And so I've always, hated it when; I go to a cocktail party and somebody; asks. me what I do and I say you know `I'm a neurosci... | well, you know, i come from a family of humanists and writers. my grandfather was a newspaper man here in new york, arthur brisbane. nobody in my family was ever a scientist. and so i've always hated it when i go to a cocktail party and somebody asks me what i do and i say, you know, `i'm a neuros... |
But I think it just speaks to the intellectual lure of science. I mean, Margaret Mead once said that the good thing about science was that it had room for so many different kinds of talents. It is, in that sense, a big intellectual tent and that--once again, I think that's something that you can s... | but i think it just speaks to the intellectual, lure of science i mean margaret mead once said that the good thing about science was that it had room for so many different kinds of talents it is in that sense a, big; intellectual tent and that--once again i think that's something that you can show... | But I think it just speaks. to the intellectual lure of science I mean Margaret Mead once said that the good thing about science was that, it had room for so many different kinds of talents It is in that sense a big intellectual tent and that--once again I, think that's something that you, can sho... | but i think it just speaks to the intellectual lure of science. i mean, margaret mead once said that the good thing about science was that it had room for so many different kinds of talents. it is, in that sense, a big intellectual tent and that--once again, i think that's something that you can s... |
Mm-hmm. Do you agree with... | mm-hmm do you agree | Mm-hmm Do you agree | mm-hmm. do you agree with... |
...Which he acquired many years later. And you would know that story. | ...which he acquired many years later and you would know that | ...Which he acquired many years later And you would know that | ...which he acquired many years later. and you would know that story. |
Oh, I was sitting there doing the dishes on Sunday morning with my wife, and we figured it out together. | oh i was sitting there doing the dishes on sunday morning with my, wife and we figured it out | Oh I was sitting there. doing the dishes on Sunday morning with my wife and we figured it out | oh, i was sitting there doing the dishes on sunday morning with my wife, and we figured it out together. |
Yeah, absolutely. I think that, you know, when I go to a party--a cocktail party and someone says, `What do you do?' if I say `I'm an astrophysicist,' they either ask me what my sign is or they walk away because they don't want to deal with it. So I say, `I contemplate the universe and get paid fo... | yeah absolutely i think that. you know when i go to a party--a cocktail party and someone says `what do you; do?' if i say. `i'm, an astrophysicist' they either ask me, what my sign is or they walk away because they don't want to deal with it. so, i say, `i contemplate the universe and get paid fo... | Yeah absolutely I think that you know when I. go to a party--a cocktail party and someone says `What do you do?' if I say `I'm an astrophysicist' they, either ask me what, my sign is or they walk away because they don't want to deal with, it So I say. `I contemplate the universe and get paid for i... | yeah, absolutely. i think that, you know, when i go to a party--a cocktail party and someone says, `what do you do?' if i say `i'm an astrophysicist,' they either ask me what my sign is or they walk away because they don't want to deal with it. so i say, `i contemplate the universe and get paid fo... |
Now you look just like Alexander Graham Bell, and I'm sure people have told you about that in the past. | now you look just like alexander graham bell. and i'm sure people have told you, about that in the | Now you. look just like Alexander Graham. Bell and I'm sure people have told you about that in the | now you look just like alexander graham bell, and i'm sure people have told you about that in the past. |
So what do you--so are you--in the couple of minutes we have left, are you optimistic that we can, quote, unquote, "save some of these kids," you know, get them more interested or you're not? | so what do you--so are you--in the couple of minutes. we, have left are you optimistic that we can quote unquote "save some of these kids" you know get them more interested or you're | So what do you--so are you--in the couple of minutes we have left, are you optimistic that we can quote unquote "save some of, these kids" you know get. them more interested or you're | so what do you--so are you--in the couple of minutes we have left, are you optimistic that we can, quote, unquote, "save some of these kids," you know, get them more interested or you're not? |
Well, if you could just show them that they could do it if they wanted to, I'd be satisfied with that. And then you'll always have those few kids sitting out there that you can grab by the throat and they'll come into the fold. That would be great, too. But just to show them that what they though... | well if you could, just show them that they could do it if, they wanted to i'd be satisfied with that and then you'll; always have those few kids sitting, out there that you can grab. by the. throat and, they'll come into the fold that would be great too but just to show them. that what they thou... | Well if you could just show them that. they could do it if they wanted to I'd be satisfied; with that And then you'll; always have those few kids sitting out there, that you can grab. by the throat and they'll come into the fold That. would be great too But just to show them that what they though... | well, if you could just show them that they could do it if they wanted to, i'd be satisfied with that. and then you'll always have those few kids sitting out there that you can grab by the throat and they'll come into the fold. that would be great, too. but just to show them that what they though... |
Mm-hmm. And I guess if you can teach them a little bit how--what we were talking about the evolution, the creation, the ID before--to analyze it for themselves, to look at evidence and to make an objective decisions... | mm-hmm and i; guess if you can teach them a little bit how--what we were talking about the; evolution. the creation the id before--to analyze it for themselves to look; at evidence and to make an objective | Mm-hmm, And I guess if you can teach them, a little bit how--what we were talking about the evolution the creation the ID before--to analyze it for themselves to look at evidence and to make an objective | mm-hmm. and i guess if you can teach them a little bit how--what we were talking about the evolution, the creation, the id before--to analyze it for themselves, to look at evidence and to make an objective decisions... |
Yeah, that's it. | yeah, that's | Yeah that's | yeah, that's it. |
...then you may have done something. | ...then you may have done | ...then you may have, done | ...then you may have done something. |
That's certainly one of our goals, although we really do want to demonstrate to them this is an exciting intellectual activity. | that's certainly one of our goals although we. really do want to demonstrate to them, this is an exciting intellectual | That's certainly one of our goals, although, we really do want to demonstrate to them this, is an exciting intellectual | that's certainly one of our goals, although we really do want to demonstrate to them this is an exciting intellectual activity. |
Right. | right. | ||
It's not what they learned in high school and it is something that they could be interested in for the rest of their life even if they don't become scientists. | it's not what they learned in high school, and it is something that they. could be, interested in for the rest of their life even if they don't become, | It's not what they learned in high. school and it. is something that they could be interested in for the rest of their life even if they; don't become | it's not what they learned in high school and it is something that they could be interested in for the rest of their life even if they don't become scientists. |
Do other schools have courses like this? | do other schools have courses like | Do other schools have courses like | do other schools have courses like this? |
You know, it turns out that it's a hard--lots of places have tried; Stanford tried, Princeton tried and I think Harvard's gearing up to do something. But Columbia's notable for having the core curriculum. It's notable for having decided, rightly or wrongly, what it is that a civilized and educated ... | you know it turns out that it's a hard--lots of places have tried, stanford tried princeton; tried and. i think harvard's gearing up to do something but columbia's notable. for having, the. core curriculum it's notable. for having decided rightly, or wrongly what, it is that, a civilized and educat... | You know it turns out that it's a hard--lots of places have tried Stanford tried Princeton tried and I think Harvard's. gearing up to do something But Columbia's notable for having the core curriculum It's notable for having decided rightly or wrongly what it is that. a civilized and educated perso... | you know, it turns out that it's a hard--lots of places have tried; stanford tried, princeton tried and i think harvard's gearing up to do something. but columbia's notable for having the core curriculum. it's notable for having decided, rightly or wrongly, what it is that a civilized and educated ... |
Yeah. Yeah. | yeah | Yeah, | yeah. yeah. |
And so we have introduced science to the core curriculum, and its presence in the core is one of the things that gives it even half a chance of success. | and so we have introduced science to the core curriculum and its presence in the core is one of the things that gives it even half a chance of | And so, we have introduced science to the core curriculum and its presence in the core is one of the things, that gives it even half, a chance of | and so we have introduced science to the core curriculum, and its presence in the core is one of the things that gives it even half a chance of success. |
How can you say you're educated these days if you don't know something about the sciences, you know? | how can; you say, you're educated these days if you don't know something about the sciences you | How can you, say, you're educated these days if you don't know something about, the sciences you, | how can you say you're educated these days if you don't know something about the sciences, you know? |
Well... | well... | ||
It used to be a badge of honor that you had the two cultures. Remember the C.P. Snow thing? | it, used to be a badge of honor that you had the two. cultures remember the c.p snow | It used to be a badge of honor that you had the two cultures Remember the C.P Snow | it used to be a badge of honor that you had the two cultures. remember the c.p. snow thing? |
Well, I'm afraid we still do, and our political leadership at the moment, for example, is fond of saying that we have to go with our gut. Well, the translation of that is going with the most primitive, cognitive processes that were very useful for survival on the plains of the Serengeti but are rea... | well; i'm afraid we still do and our political. leadership at the moment, for, example is fond of saying that we have to go with, our gut well the translation. of that is going, with the most primitive cognitive processes that were very useful for survival on the plains of the, serengeti but are re... | Well I'm afraid we still do and our political leadership at the moment for example is, fond of; saying that we have to go with our gut Well the translation, of that is going with the most primitive. cognitive processes that. were very useful for survival. on the plains of the Serengeti but are real... | well, i'm afraid we still do, and our political leadership at the moment, for example, is fond of saying that we have to go with our gut. well, the translation of that is going with the most primitive, cognitive processes that were very useful for survival on the plains of the serengeti but are rea... |
All right. And that's going to be the last word for the year, this year 2005. I'd like to thank both of you. Dr. David Helfand is professor of astronomy, chair of the department of astronomy and astrophysics and co-director of the Columbia Center for Astrophysics. And Dr. Darcy Kelley, professor ... | all right and that's going to, be the last. word for. the year this year 2005. i'd like to thank both of you dr david helfand is professor of astronomy chair of, the department of astronomy and astrophysics and co-director of the columbia center for astrophysics and dr darcy kelley professor of b... | All right And that's going to be the last word for the year this year 2005. I'd like to thank both of you Dr David Helfand is professor of astronomy chair of the department of astronomy and astrophysics. and co-director of the Columbia Center for Astrophysics And Dr Darcy Kelley professor of biol... | all right. and that's going to be the last word for the year, this year 2005. i'd like to thank both of you. dr. david helfand is professor of astronomy, chair of the department of astronomy and astrophysics and co-director of the columbia center for astrophysics. and dr. darcy kelley, professor ... |
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Thank you. | thank | Thank. | thank you. |
You're welcome. | you're | You're | you're welcome. |
That's about it for our program today. | that's about it for our program | That's about it for, our program | that's about it for our program today. |
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Have a great weekend and a happy and safe new year. We'll see you next year. I'm Ira Flatow in New York. | have a, great weekend and. a happy and. safe new year we'll see you next year i'm; ira flatow in new | Have a great weekend and, a happy and safe new year We'll see you next year I'm. Ira Flatow in New | have a great weekend and a happy and safe new year. we'll see you next year. i'm ira flatow in new york. |
There's a provision in the Republican proposal to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act that blocks Planned Parenthood from receiving Medicaid dollars for at least a year. Opponents of abortion rights say public funds for services like cancer screenings and contraception should instead go to health clinics that do... | there's a provision in, the republican proposal to repeal and. replace the affordable care act that blocks planned parenthood. from receiving medicaid. dollars; for at least a year opponents of abortion rights say public funds for services like cancer screenings and contraception should instead go to health. clinics th... | There's a provision in the, Republican proposal to, repeal and replace the Affordable, Care. Act that blocks Planned Parenthood from receiving Medicaid dollars for at least a, year Opponents of abortion, rights say; public funds. for. services like cancer screenings and contraception should instead go to health clinics... | there's a provision in the republican proposal to repeal and replace the affordable care act that blocks planned parenthood from receiving medicaid dollars for at least a year. opponents of abortion rights say public funds for services like cancer screenings and contraception should instead go to health clinics that do... |
NPR's Sarah McCammon looks at what that would mean for public health centers and patients. | npr's. sarah mccammon, looks at what, that would mean for public health centers and | NPR's Sarah McCammon looks at what that would mean for public. health centers and | npr's sarah mccammon looks at what that would mean for public health centers and patients. |
There are lots of reasons why women want to avoid getting pregnant. For Dawn States, two spinal surgeries as a teenager make pregnancy a bad idea. | there are lots of reasons why women want to avoid getting pregnant for dawn states two spinal. surgeries as a teenager make pregnancy a bad | There are, lots of reasons why women want to avoid, getting pregnant For Dawn States two spinal surgeries; as a teenager make pregnancy a bad. | there are lots of reasons why women want to avoid getting pregnant. for dawn states, two spinal surgeries as a teenager make pregnancy a bad idea. |
My spine is fused, and I have two rods. And so it's just not really a setup for carrying around an infant. | my spine is fused and i have two rods and so it's just not really a setup for carrying around an | My spine is fused and I have two rods And so, it's just not, really a setup for carrying around an | my spine is fused, and i have two rods. and so it's just not really a setup for carrying around an infant. |
Now 26 and living in Lancaster, Pa., States recently came to a Planned Parenthood clinic in York, about 25 miles away, to get a long-acting IUD. | now 26 and living in lancaster. pa., states recently came to a planned parenthood clinic in york about 25 miles away to get a long-acting | Now 26 and living in Lancaster Pa., States recently came to a Planned Parenthood clinic in York about 25 miles away to get a long-acting | now 26 and living in lancaster, pa., states recently came to a planned parenthood clinic in york, about 25 miles away, to get a long-acting iud. |
Because I wasn't sure what was going to happen in the next foreseeable future. And I actually physically can't have kids. So it was - it's very important for me to never ever have that. | because i wasn't sure what was going to happen. in the next foreseeable future and i actually physically can't have kids so it was - it's very important for me to never ever have, | Because I wasn't sure what was going to happen, in the next foreseeable future. And, I actually physically can't have kids So it was - it's very important for me to never ever have | because i wasn't sure what was going to happen in the next foreseeable future. and i actually physically can't have kids. so it was - it's very important for me to never ever have that. |
She worries about what will happen to women like her, who receive Medicaid and depend on Planned Parenthood for this kind of care. Planned Parenthood does provide about a third of the nation's abortions but can't use federal money for the procedure. For other services, like screening for sexually transmitted diseases, ... | she worries about what will happen to women like her who receive medicaid. and depend on planned parenthood for this kind of care planned. parenthood does provide about a third of the nation's abortions but can't. use federal money for the procedure for other services like screening for sexually transmitted diseases th... | She worries about what will happen to women; like her who receive Medicaid and depend on Planned Parenthood for. this kind of care Planned Parenthood does provide about, a third. of the nation's abortions but can't use federal money for the procedure For other services like screening for sexually transmitted diseases t... | she worries about what will happen to women like her, who receive medicaid and depend on planned parenthood for this kind of care. planned parenthood does provide about a third of the nation's abortions but can't use federal money for the procedure. for other services, like screening for sexually transmitted diseases, ... |
Louisa Lim, NPR News, Shanghai. | louisa lim npr news | Louisa, Lim, NPR News | louisa lim, npr news, shanghai. |
The business perspective has been a staple in almost all previous administrations, whether they be Democratic or Republican. I think there were times when it was sorely lacking. | the. business perspective has been a staple in almost all previous administrations whether they be democratic or republican i think there were times when it was sorely | The business perspective has been a staple in, almost all previous administrations whether they be Democratic or Republican I; think there were times when it was sorely | the business perspective has been a staple in almost all previous administrations, whether they be democratic or republican. i think there were times when it was sorely lacking. |
Schneider says the president has been open to meeting with business people, and executives fill a number of Mr. Obama's advisory boards. But Schneider suggests that's no substitute for having key players within the administration who come from a business background. | schneider says the president; has been open to meeting with business people and executives fill a number of mr obama's. advisory boards but. schneider suggests that's no substitute for having, key players within the administration who come from a business | Schneider says the, president has been open to meeting with. business people and executives fill a number of Mr Obama's advisory boards But Schneider suggests that's no substitute for. having key players within the administration who come, from a business | schneider says the president has been open to meeting with business people, and executives fill a number of mr. obama's advisory boards. but schneider suggests that's no substitute for having key players within the administration who come from a business background. |
Individuals who focused on the bottom line, individuals who have balanced competing demands, as any business leader does. | individuals who focused on the bottom line individuals who have balanced competing demands as any business leader | Individuals, who focused on the bottom line individuals who. have. balanced competing demands as any business leader | individuals who focused on the bottom line, individuals who have balanced competing demands, as any business leader does. |
But if some in the business community feel overlooked by this White House, some on the left complained Summers is too aligned with corporate interests, watering down progressive policies and bailing out Wall Street. | but if some, in the business community feel overlooked. by this white. house some on the left complained summers is too aligned with corporate interests watering down progressive policies and bailing out wall | But if some in the business community feel. overlooked by this White. House some on the left complained Summers, is; too aligned with corporate interests watering down progressive policies and bailing out Wall | but if some in the business community feel overlooked by this white house, some on the left complained summers is too aligned with corporate interests, watering down progressive policies and bailing out wall street. |
Adam Green of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee wants the next director of the Economic Council to be a populist in the mold of Princeton economist Paul Krugman or former labor secretary Robert Reich. | adam green of the progressive change campaign committee wants the next, director of the economic council to be a populist in the mold of princeton economist paul krugman or former labor secretary robert | Adam Green of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee wants the next director of the Economic Council to be a. populist in the mold of Princeton economist Paul Krugman or former labor secretary Robert | adam green of the progressive change campaign committee wants the next director of the economic council to be a populist in the mold of princeton economist paul krugman or former labor secretary robert reich. |
The main quality should be, is this person putting the little guy first and not putting big Wall Street bankers first? So we're hoping President Obama reverses that and appoints a real watchdog for the public. | the main; quality should be is this person putting the little guy first and not putting, big wall. street bankers first? so we're hoping president obama reverses that and appoints a real watchdog for the | The main quality should be is this person putting the little guy first and not putting big Wall Street bankers first? So we're hoping President Obama; reverses; that and appoints a real watchdog for, the, | the main quality should be, is this person putting the little guy first and not putting big wall street bankers first? so we're hoping president obama reverses that and appoints a real watchdog for the public. |
Summers' departure could also be an opportunity to bring another woman into the West Wing. With Christina Romer's departure from the Council of Economic Advisers this month, the top ranks of the president's economic team are now all filled by men. That should change, says Amy Siskind. She heads a women's advisory group... | summers' departure could also be an opportunity to bring another woman into the, west, wing with, christina romer's departure from the council of economic advisers this month, the, top ranks of the, president's economic team are now all filled by men that should change says amy siskind she heads a women's advisory grou... | Summers' departure could also be an opportunity to, bring another woman into the West Wing With Christina. Romer's departure. from the Council of Economic Advisers this month the top ranks of the president's economic team, are now all; filled by men. That should change, says Amy Siskind She heads a women's advisory gro... | summers' departure could also be an opportunity to bring another woman into the west wing. with christina romer's departure from the council of economic advisers this month, the top ranks of the president's economic team are now all filled by men. that should change, says amy siskind. she heads a women's advisory group... |
Our country is 52 percent women, and so we feel that that kind of voice and that kind of life experience is imperative in terms of getting gender balance and understanding the different problems that our country faces. | our country. is 52 percent women. and so we feel, that that kind of voice and. that kind of life experience. is imperative in terms of getting gender balance and understanding. the different problems that our country | Our country is 52 percent women and so, we; feel that that kind of voice, and that kind of life experience. is imperative in terms of getting gender balance and understanding the different problems that our country | our country is 52 percent women, and so we feel that that kind of voice and that kind of life experience is imperative in terms of getting gender balance and understanding the different problems that our country faces. |
Siskind says putting a woman in charge of the Economic Council might also help to foster compromise, something the strong-willed Summers isn't exactly known for. | siskind says putting a woman in charge of the economic council might also help to foster compromise, something. the strong-willed summers isn't exactly known | Siskind. says putting a woman in charge of the Economic; Council might also help to foster compromise something the. strong-willed Summers isn't exactly, known | siskind says putting a woman in charge of the economic council might also help to foster compromise, something the strong-willed summers isn't exactly known for. |
One of the important skills that women bring to the table is consensus building, which is the exact opposite of what we currently had. | one of the important skills that women bring to the table is consensus building which is the exact opposite of what we currently | One of the important skills that women bring. to the table is consensus building which is the exact opposite of, what we currently | one of the important skills that women bring to the table is consensus building, which is the exact opposite of what we currently had. |
University of Maryland business professor Peter Morici agrees the president could use more women on his team. He'd also like to see more business executives, although he thinks a CEO would be a better fit as cabinet secretary, rather than director of the National Economic Council. | university of maryland; business professor, peter morici agrees the president. could use more women on his team he'd also like to see, more. business executives although he thinks a ceo would, be a better fit as. cabinet secretary rather than director of the. national economic | University of Maryland business, professor Peter Morici agrees the president could use more women on his team He'd, also like to, see more, business. executives although he. thinks a CEO would be a, better fit as cabinet secretary rather than director of the National Economic | university of maryland business professor peter morici agrees the president could use more women on his team. he'd also like to see more business executives, although he thinks a ceo would be a better fit as cabinet secretary, rather than director of the national economic council. |
No matter who eventually replaces Summers, Morici says, it probably will not lead to a sea change in the president's economic policies. | no matter who eventually replaces summers morici says it probably will not lead to a sea change in the president's economic | No, matter who eventually replaces Summers Morici says it probably will, not lead to a, sea. change in the president's economic | no matter who eventually replaces summers, morici says, it probably will not lead to a sea change in the president's economic policies. |
It's more of a PR opportunity. I suspect the president is going to stay on the course that he's adopted. And he's looking for an economist that can help him sell the kinds of progressive policies he thinks are best for the country. | it's. more of a pr opportunity i suspect the president is going to stay. on the course that he's adopted and he's. looking for an economist that can help him sell the kinds of progressive policies. he thinks are best for the | It's more of a PR opportunity I suspect the president is. going. to, stay on the course that he's adopted And he's looking for an economist that. can help him sell the kinds of progressive policies he thinks are best for the | it's more of a pr opportunity. i suspect the president is going to stay on the course that he's adopted. and he's looking for an economist that can help him sell the kinds of progressive policies he thinks are best for the country. |
Public frustration with the economy and the president's handling of it mostly stems from the high unemployment rate. Fixing that will require millions of job openings, not just one. | public frustration with the economy and the president's. handling of it, mostly stems from the high unemployment rate fixing that will require millions of job openings not just | Public frustration with the economy and the president's handling of it mostly stems from the high unemployment rate Fixing that will, require millions, of job openings not, just, | public frustration with the economy and the president's handling of it mostly stems from the high unemployment rate. fixing that will require millions of job openings, not just one. |
Scott Horsley, NPR News, Washington. | scott horsley npr news | Scott Horsley NPR News | scott horsley, npr news, washington. |
And let's get an update on another conflict in the Middle East, this one between the Israelis and Palestinians. Today, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice conferred with Israel's prime minister, Ehud Olmert. And later, it was announced that they will be holding a meeting with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. Rice t... | and let's get an update on another conflict in the middle east, this one. between the israelis, and palestinians today secretary of state condoleezza rice, conferred with israel's prime minister ehud olmert and later it was announced that they will be holding a meeting with palestinian president mahmoud abbas rice, the... | And. let's get, an update, on another conflict, in the Middle East this one between the Israelis and Palestinians Today Secretary; of State. Condoleezza Rice conferred with Israel's prime minister Ehud Olmert And later it was announced that they will be holding a meeting with Palestinian President Mahmoud. Abbas Rice t... | and let's get an update on another conflict in the middle east, this one between the israelis and palestinians. today, secretary of state condoleezza rice conferred with israel's prime minister, ehud olmert. and later, it was announced that they will be holding a meeting with palestinian president mahmoud abbas. rice t... |
Earlier we spoke with NPR's Linda Gradstein in Jerusalem and we asked what Rice was trying to accomplish. | earlier, we spoke with npr's linda gradstein, in jerusalem and we asked what rice was trying to | Earlier we spoke with NPR's Linda Gradstein in Jerusalem and we asked. what Rice was trying to | earlier we spoke with npr's linda gradstein in jerusalem and we asked what rice was trying to accomplish. |
She's trying to basically keep things on track. She lowered expectations before she came, saying she was not coming with any kind of a new plan, that she was hoping just to confer with both sides and to keep a certain momentum going. Israeli and Palestinian officials say she's sort of testing the water, perhaps in adva... | she's trying to basically keep things on track she lowered, expectations before she came saying. she was not coming, with any kind of a new plan that she was hoping just to confer. with, both sides, and to keep a certain momentum going israeli and, palestinian officials say she's, sort of testing the water perhaps in a... | She's trying to basically keep things on track She lowered, expectations before she came saying she was not coming, with, any kind, of a new plan that she was hoping just to confer with both. sides and to keep. a certain momentum. going Israeli and Palestinian officials say she's sort of testing the water perhaps in ad... | she's trying to basically keep things on track. she lowered expectations before she came, saying she was not coming with any kind of a new plan, that she was hoping just to confer with both sides and to keep a certain momentum going. israeli and palestinian officials say she's sort of testing the water, perhaps in adva... |
When you say keep momentum going, what momentum? | when you say keep; momentum going what | When you say keep momentum. going what, | when you say keep momentum going, what momentum? |
There was a meeting about a month ago between Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, and Olmert promised to ease travel restrictions for Palestinians and to release a hundred million of the money that Israel has frozen in Palestinian taxes and customs revenues since the Hamas governmen... | there was a, meeting about, a; month ago between israeli prime minister ehud olmert and palestinian. leader mahmoud abbas and olmert promised to ease travel restrictions for palestinians and to release, a hundred million of the money. that israel has frozen in palestinian taxes and customs revenues since the hamas gove... | There was a meeting, about a month. ago between Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas and Olmert promised to ease travel, restrictions; for Palestinians and to; release a hundred million of the money that Israel has frozen in Palestinian taxes and customs revenues since, the Hamas gove... | there was a meeting about a month ago between israeli prime minister ehud olmert and palestinian leader mahmoud abbas, and olmert promised to ease travel restrictions for palestinians and to release a hundred million of the money that israel has frozen in palestinian taxes and customs revenues since the hamas governmen... |
So I want to understand the context in which all of this is happening. The Bush administration has been pressed to get more involved in the Mideast peace process, not least by this Baker Commission, which wanted a broad Middle Eastern solution as part of solving Iraq, or at least improving Iraq. | so i want, to understand the context in which all of this is happening the bush administration has been pressed. to get more involved in the mideast peace process not least by this. baker commission which wanted a broad middle eastern solution as part of solving iraq or at least improving | So I want to understand the context in which all of this is happening The Bush administration has been pressed to get more involved in the; Mideast. peace process not least by this Baker, Commission which wanted a broad Middle Eastern, solution. as part of solving Iraq or at least improving, | so i want to understand the context in which all of this is happening. the bush administration has been pressed to get more involved in the mideast peace process, not least by this baker commission, which wanted a broad middle eastern solution as part of solving iraq, or at least improving iraq. |
Mm-hmm. | mm-hmm. | ||
Secretary of State Rice said during this trip, did she not, that she understands loud and clear that Arab allies are demanding a bigger U.S. role, but then she's not actually proposing a bigger U.S. role. | secretary; of state rice said during this trip did she. not that she understands loud and clear that arab allies, are demanding a bigger u.s, role but then, she's not actually proposing a bigger u.s, | Secretary of State Rice, said during this trip did she not that she understands loud. and clear that Arab allies are demanding. a bigger U.S role but, then she's not actually proposing a bigger U.S, | secretary of state rice said during this trip, did she not, that she understands loud and clear that arab allies are demanding a bigger u.s. role, but then she's not actually proposing a bigger u.s. role. |
Well, this is all very incremental. These things don't happen, you know, all that fast. And I think the idea is that she shows that the United States is interested in this. You know, I've talked to U.S. administration officials and they said, you know, if you're not moving forward, you're moving backward. And just by c... | well this is all. very, incremental these, things don't happen you know all that fast and, i think the. idea is that she shows that the united states is interested in this you know i've talked to u.s. administration officials and they said you know if you're not moving forward you're moving backward and just. by coming... | Well. this is all very incremental These things don't happen you know all that fast And I think the idea is that she shows that the United. States is. interested in this You know I've talked, to U.S administration officials and they said you know if you're not moving forward you're moving. backward, And, just by coming... | well, this is all very incremental. these things don't happen, you know, all that fast. and i think the idea is that she shows that the united states is interested in this. you know, i've talked to u.s. administration officials and they said, you know, if you're not moving forward, you're moving backward. and just by c... |
Kenya's high court decided that trying to close down Dadaab was, quote, "unfair and arbitrary" and it violated both international law and the constitutional rights of refugees. The government, however, says that they will appeal to the country's supreme court, but for now, Dadaab stays open. | kenya's high court decided that trying to close down dadaab was quote "unfair and arbitrary" and it, violated both international. law and; the. constitutional rights of; refugees the government however says that they will appeal. to the country's supreme court but for now dadaab stays | Kenya's high court decided that trying to close down Dadaab was. quote "unfair. and arbitrary" and. it violated both international law and the constitutional. rights. of refugees The government, however says that they will; appeal to the country's supreme court but for now Dadaab. stays | kenya's high court decided that trying to close down dadaab was, quote, "unfair and arbitrary" and it violated both international law and the constitutional rights of refugees. the government, however, says that they will appeal to the country's supreme court, but for now, dadaab stays open. |
That's NPR's Eyder Peralta in Nairobi. Thank you. | that's; npr's eyder peralta in nairobi thank. | That's NPR's Eyder Peralta in Nairobi Thank | that's npr's eyder peralta in nairobi. thank you. |
Thank you, Kelly. | thank you | Thank you | thank you, kelly. |
I want to ask you about what we heard from John Burnett a moment ago about that town near Chimayo in New Mexico. It's not very encouraging about what decades of the war on drugs can result in, even though there have been some improvements. I could come away from that fairly pessimistic about any s... | i want to ask you about what we heard from john burnett a moment ago about that. town near chimayo in, new mexico it's not very encouraging, about, what. decades of the war on drugs can result in, even though, there, have been some improvements i could come away from that fairly pessimistic about ... | I want to ask you, about what we heard from John. Burnett a moment ago about that, town near Chimayo in New Mexico It's not very encouraging about what decades of the war. on drugs, can result in even though there have been some improvements I could come. away from that fairly pessimistic about an... | i want to ask you about what we heard from john burnett a moment ago about that town near chimayo in new mexico. it's not very encouraging about what decades of the war on drugs can result in, even though there have been some improvements. i could come away from that fairly pessimistic about any s... |
It's not just federal action. I mean, this is--I mean, drug policy is as much a state and local matter as it is a federal one. And the simple observation is that over the last 30 years, we have seen a fairly stagnant heroin problem; that is the number of heroin users now is probably down about 20, ... | it's not just federal action i mean this is--i mean drug policy is as much a state and local, matter as it is a federal. one and, the simple observation is that over the last 30 years we have seen a fairly stagnant heroin problem that is the number of heroin users now is. probably down about 20, 25... | It's not just federal action, I mean this is--I mean drug policy is as much. a state and local matter as it. is a federal one. And the simple observation is that over the last 30 years. we have seen a fairly stagnant heroin problem that is the. number of heroin users now is probably down about 20, ... | it's not just federal action. i mean, this is--i mean, drug policy is as much a state and local matter as it is a federal one. and the simple observation is that over the last 30 years, we have seen a fairly stagnant heroin problem; that is the number of heroin users now is probably down about 20, ... |
A justified approach you say. The kind of drug court we heard the administration tout today where people would be put into treatment more commonly. Amphetamine treatment, is it typically successful? | a, justified approach you say the kind of drug court we heard the administration tout today where people. would. be put into treatment, more commonly amphetamine treatment is it, typically | A. justified approach you say The kind of drug court we heard the administration tout today where people would be. put into treatment more commonly Amphetamine treatment is it typically | a justified approach you say. the kind of drug court we heard the administration tout today where people would be put into treatment more commonly. amphetamine treatment, is it typically successful? |
Most treatment--I mean, treatment is effective in the sense that people who are going to treatment use a lot less of the drugs over their lifetime, but most of them relapse into treatment. It's not a permanent cure. It's effective, it's cost effective, but it still leaves us with a big problem whet... | most treatment--i mean treatment is effective in the sense that people who are going to treatment use a lot less of the drugs over their lifetime but most of them relapse into treatment it's not, a, permanent cure it's effective it's cost effective but, it still leaves us with a big problem whether... | Most treatment--I mean treatment is effective in the sense that, people who. are going to treatment use a lot less of the drugs over their lifetime. but most, of them relapse into treatment It's not a permanent. cure It's effective it's cost effective but it still leaves us with. a big problem whet... | most treatment--i mean, treatment is effective in the sense that people who are going to treatment use a lot less of the drugs over their lifetime, but most of them relapse into treatment. it's not a permanent cure. it's effective, it's cost effective, but it still leaves us with a big problem whet... |
Professor Reuter, thanks a lot for talking with us today. | professor reuter thanks a lot. for talking with us. | Professor Reuter thanks a, lot for talking with us; | professor reuter, thanks a lot for talking with us today. |
Thank you. | thank | Thank. | thank you. |
Peter Reuter is professor at the University of Maryland, public policy, and also co-director of the RAND Drug Policy Research Center. | peter reuter is professor at the university of maryland public policy and also co-director of the rand drug policy research | Peter Reuter is professor at the University of Maryland public policy. and also co-director, of the RAND Drug Policy Research | peter reuter is professor at the university of maryland, public policy, and also co-director of the rand drug policy research center. |
(SOUNDBITE OF "PEANUTS" THEME SONG) | (soundbite of "peanuts" theme | (SOUNDBITE. OF "PEANUTS" THEME | (soundbite of "peanuts" theme song) |
Charlie Brown, of the comic strip "Peanuts," is well-known for losing things - losing a game, losing his cool. Fifty years ago, he lost his beach ball. That is, until the ball was returned to him by Franklin. And that's how Charles Schulz introduced Franklin to the world. He was smart, thoughtful, also black, the first... | charlie brown of, the comic strip "peanuts" is well-known for losing things - losing a game losing his cool fifty years ago he lost his beach ball, that is until the ball was, returned to him. by. franklin and that's how charles schulz introduced franklin to the world he was smart thoughtful also black the, first perso... | Charlie Brown of, the comic strip "Peanuts" is well-known for losing things, - losing a game losing his; cool Fifty years ago he lost his beach ball That is. until the. ball was returned to him by Franklin And that's how, Charles Schulz introduced Franklin to the world He was smart thoughtful also black the first perso... | charlie brown, of the comic strip "peanuts," is well-known for losing things - losing a game, losing his cool. fifty years ago, he lost his beach ball. that is, until the ball was returned to him by franklin. and that's how charles schulz introduced franklin to the world. he was smart, thoughtful, also black, the first... |
Hi, Renee. Delighted to be here. | hi renee delighted to be | Hi Renee Delighted to be | hi, renee. delighted to be here. |
We're glad to have you. And I - first, I should say you would've been 6 years old in 1968. So do you actually remember flipping open the newspaper and seeing Franklin for the first time? | we're glad to have you, and, i - first i. should say you would've been 6 years old in 1968. so do you, actually remember flipping open the newspaper and seeing franklin for the first | We're glad to have you And I - first I should say you would've been, 6 years old in. 1968. So do you actually remember, flipping open, the newspaper and seeing Franklin for, the, first, | we're glad to have you. and i - first, i should say you would've been 6 years old in 1968. so do you actually remember flipping open the newspaper and seeing franklin for the first time? |
Oh, my goodness, do I. It was really amazing because that year was so tumultuous that - not only did Dr. King get assassinated in '68. My oldest brother was killed in '68, caught in the doors of a moving subway. So I remember it very vividly. | oh, my goodness do i, it was, really amazing because that year was so tumultuous that - not. only did, dr king get assassinated in '68. my oldest, brother, was killed in, '68, caught in the doors of a moving. subway so i remember it very | Oh my. goodness do, I It was really, amazing because that year was. so tumultuous that - not only did Dr King get assassinated in '68. My oldest brother was killed. in '68, caught in the doors of a moving subway So I remember it very | oh, my goodness, do i. it was really amazing because that year was so tumultuous that - not only did dr. king get assassinated in '68. my oldest brother was killed in '68, caught in the doors of a moving subway. so i remember it very vividly. |
Oh, gosh. For a little kid going through all of that, then Franklin might've stuck with you more than he might have and... | oh gosh for a little kid going through all. of that then franklin might've stuck with you more than he might have | Oh gosh For a little kid going through all of that then Franklin might've stuck with you, more than he might have | oh, gosh. for a little kid going through all of that, then franklin might've stuck with you more than he might have and... |
Totally. It was Dr. King. It was my brother. It was Bobby Kennedy. It was insane. It was just crazy. | totally it. was dr king it was my brother it was bobby kennedy it was insane it was just | Totally It was Dr King It was my brother It was Bobby Kennedy It was insane It, was just | totally. it was dr. king. it was my brother. it was bobby kennedy. it was insane. it was just crazy. |
Well, had you been reading, though, all along "Peanuts"? I mean, as a 6-year-old, were you pretty hooked on him? That's why you noticed Franklin... | well had you been reading though all along "peanuts"? i mean as a 6-year-old were you pretty hooked on him? that's why you noticed | Well had you been reading though all along "Peanuts"? I mean as a 6-year-old, were you pretty hooked, on him? That's why. you noticed | well, had you been reading, though, all along "peanuts"? i mean, as a 6-year-old, were you pretty hooked on him? that's why you noticed franklin... |
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