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And whether you go to Harvard or whether you go to Thomson Reuters, there's some facts we know about health care in America. And the facts we know is one out of every three dollars that gets spent doesn't help anybody get well and doesn't prevent anybody from getting sick. | and whether you go, to harvard or whether you go to thomson reuters there's. some facts we know, about health care in. america and the facts we know is one out of every; three dollars that. gets spent doesn't help anybody get well and doesn't prevent anybody, from getting | And whether you go to Harvard or whether you go to Thomson Reuters there's some facts we know about health care in America And the facts, we know is one out of every three dollars, that gets spent doesn't help anybody get well and doesn't prevent anybody from getting | and whether you go to harvard or whether you go to thomson reuters, there's some facts we know about health care in america. and the facts we know is one out of every three dollars that gets spent doesn't help anybody get well and doesn't prevent anybody from getting sick. |
The second thing we know is, from the Congressional Research Service, that most of the mal-drivers(ph) today in health care come from government rules and regulations. | the second thing we. know, is from the congressional research service that most of the. mal-drivers(ph) today in health care come from government rules and | The second thing we; know is from the Congressional. Research Service that most of the mal-drivers(ph) today in health; care come from government rules and | the second thing we know is, from the congressional research service, that most of the mal-drivers(ph) today in health care come from government rules and regulations. |
The government now directs over 60 percent of the health care in this country. And if throwing money at it and creating new government programs could solve it, we wouldn't be sitting here today because we've done all that. It hasn't worked. | the government now directs over 60 percent of the. health care in this country and if throwing money at it and creating new government programs could solve it we wouldn't be sitting here today because we've done all that it hasn't, | The government now directs over 60 percent of the health care in, this country. And if throwing money at it and creating new government programs could solve it we wouldn't be sitting here today because. we've done all that It, hasn't | the government now directs over 60 percent of the health care in this country. and if throwing money at it and creating new government programs could solve it, we wouldn't be sitting here today because we've done all that. it hasn't worked. |
So what I thought we ought to do is maybe talk about, why does it cost so much? Because the thing that keeps people from getting access to care in our country is cost. | so what i, thought we ought to do is maybe talk about why does. it cost so much? because the thing that keeps people, from getting access to care in our country; is | So what I thought we ought to do is maybe, talk, about, why does it cost so much? Because the thing that keeps people from getting access to care in; our country is | so what i thought we ought to do is maybe talk about, why does it cost so much? because the thing that keeps people from getting access to care in our country is cost. |
You mentioned Malia and Sasha. The fact is, is with young kids going to the ER whether they have meningitis or asthma, they're going to get treated in this country, but they may get labeled with a pre-existing illness after that. And that's another thing I'll be happy to talk about at a later time. But the fact is, is ... | you. mentioned malia and sasha the fact is is with young kids going to the. er whether they, have meningitis or asthma they're. going to get treated in this country but they. may get labeled with a pre-existing illness after. that and. that's another thing. i'll be happy. to, talk about at a later time but the fact is ... | You mentioned Malia and Sasha The fact is is with young kids going to the ER. whether. they have meningitis or asthma they're going to get treated in this country but they may get labeled. with a pre-existing illness. after that And that's another thing I'll be happy. to talk about at a later time But the fact is is we... | you mentioned malia and sasha. the fact is, is with young kids going to the er whether they have meningitis or asthma, they're going to get treated in this country, but they may get labeled with a pre-existing illness after that. and that's another thing i'll be happy to talk about at a later time. but the fact is, is ... |
And I'm corrected. Dr. Coburn, Dr. Senator Coburn, is a primary care physician, though he does deliver a lot of babies. And Julie Rovner, much of the morning session taken up on this question of containing costs and which party's ideas would do that more effectively than the other. | and i'm corrected dr coburn dr senator coburn is, a primary care; physician though, he does deliver a lot of babies. and julie rovner much of the morning session taken up on. this question of containing costs and which party's ideas, would do that more effectively than the | And I'm, corrected Dr Coburn Dr, Senator Coburn, is a primary care physician though he does deliver a lot of babies And Julie Rovner much of the morning session, taken up on this question of containing costs and which party's ideas would. do that more effectively than the | and i'm corrected. dr. coburn, dr. senator coburn, is a primary care physician, though he does deliver a lot of babies. and julie rovner, much of the morning session taken up on this question of containing costs and which party's ideas would do that more effectively than the other. |
Absolutely, and this is - and a lot of throwing around of facts that were sort of taken selectively, if you will, from the various estimates made by the Congressional Budget Office, one of the big ones talking about, you know, whose plan would raise premiums and whose plan would lower premiums. | absolutely and this is - and a. lot, of throwing around of facts that were sort of taken selectively if you will from the various. estimates made by, the congressional budget office one of the big ones, talking about you know whose plan. would, raise premiums and whose plan would lower. | Absolutely and this is - and a lot of. throwing around of facts that were sort of taken selectively if you. will from the various estimates made by the Congressional Budget Office one of the big ones, talking about you know whose plan would raise premiums and whose plan would lower | absolutely, and this is - and a lot of throwing around of facts that were sort of taken selectively, if you will, from the various estimates made by the congressional budget office, one of the big ones talking about, you know, whose plan would raise premiums and whose plan would lower premiums. |
And indeed, there seem to be - at some point, everybody conceded, well, fundamental, philosophical differences on this point. | and indeed there seem to be - at some point everybody conceded well fundamental philosophical differences on this | And indeed there seem to. be - at some point everybody conceded well fundamental philosophical differences on this | and indeed, there seem to be - at some point, everybody conceded, well, fundamental, philosophical differences on this point. |
Hi. | hi. | ||
Well, let's see if we can get some callers in on the conversation, 800-989-8255. Email us, talk@npr.org. Jay's(ph) calling us from Durham, North Carolina. | well let's see if we, can get some callers in on the conversation 800-989-8255. email us talk@npr.org jay's(ph) calling, us from durham north | Well let's see if we can get. some callers in on the conversation 800-989-8255. Email us talk@npr.org Jay's(ph) calling us from Durham North | well, let's see if we can get some callers in on the conversation, 800-989-8255. email us, talk@npr.org. jay's(ph) calling us from durham, north carolina. |
Yeah, hi. My question was: Do you think that this is a culmination of Obama's game plan or strategy, that he gave Congress the chance? He lost popularity, I think, because he did that, and now that he's going to take the reins and push it through. | yeah hi my question was: do you think that this; is a culmination of obama's game plan, or, strategy, that; he gave congress the chance? he lost popularity i think because he did that and now that he's going to take, the reins and push it | Yeah hi My question was: Do you think that this is. a culmination of Obama's game, plan or strategy that he gave. Congress the, chance? He lost. popularity I think because, he did that and now that he's going to. take the, reins and push it | yeah, hi. my question was: do you think that this is a culmination of obama's game plan or strategy, that he gave congress the chance? he lost popularity, i think, because he did that, and now that he's going to take the reins and push it through. |
Well, let's put that Scott Horsley, and again, this is informed by the Clinton administration's experience with health care, when the task force headed by Hillary Clinton came out with their proposal, and Congress proceeded to pick it to death, and then it went nowhere. This time around, the president said: Congress, y... | well let's put that scott horsley. and again this is; informed by the clinton administration's, experience with health care when the task force headed by, hillary clinton came out; with their proposal and congress proceeded to, pick it to. death and then it went nowhere this time around the president said: congress you... | Well let's put that Scott Horsley and again this is informed by. the, Clinton administration's experience with health care, when the task force headed by Hillary. Clinton came, out, with their proposal and Congress, proceeded to pick it to death and then it went nowhere This time around, the president said: Congress yo... | well, let's put that scott horsley, and again, this is informed by the clinton administration's experience with health care, when the task force headed by hillary clinton came out with their proposal, and congress proceeded to pick it to death, and then it went nowhere. this time around, the president said: congress, y... |
That's right, and I don't think this is so much the culmination of the president's strategy as what he's sort of been forced to do as the - leaving it up to the legislature has not worked for him. So it sort of, as a desperation move, he has now said okay, I will step in, I will put my stamp on that, something he has t... | that's, right and i don't. think this is so much the culmination of the president's strategy as what he's sort of. been forced to do as the - leaving it up, to the legislature has not, worked for him so it sort of as a desperation move he has now, said okay, i will step in i will put my stamp on that something he has t... | That's right and I don't think, this. is so. much the culmination of the president's strategy as what he's sort of been forced to do as the - leaving it up to the legislature has not worked for him So it sort of as a desperation move he has now said okay I will step in I will put my stamp on that something. he has trie... | that's right, and i don't think this is so much the culmination of the president's strategy as what he's sort of been forced to do as the - leaving it up to the legislature has not worked for him. so it sort of, as a desperation move, he has now said okay, i will step in, i will put my stamp on that, something he has t... |
So he's trying to say all right, if this is where we are, this is the last chance. | so he's trying. to say all right if this is where we are this is the last | So he's. trying to, say, all right, if this is where we are this is the last | so he's trying to say all right, if this is where we are, this is the last chance. |
Yes. | yes. | ||
Julie Rovner, this blend of President Obama's, of the House and Senate packages, is this pretty much the Democratic bill? | julie rovner this blend of president obama's of the house and, senate, packages is this pretty much the democratic | Julie Rovner this blend of President Obama's of the House. and Senate packages is this pretty much the Democratic | julie rovner, this blend of president obama's, of the house and senate packages, is this pretty much the democratic bill? |
Well, yeah, this is where that bill was going anyway. Remember, this is - essentially a lot of the things in this proposal are things that the Democratic leadership in the House and Senate had either already agreed to or were on their way to agreeing to. The problem with this bill, of course, is that in order to get th... | well yeah this is where that bill. was going anyway remember. this is - essentially a lot of the things in this proposal are things. that the democratic leadership in the house. and senate had either already agreed to or were on their way to agreeing to the problem, with. this bill of course is. that in order to get. t... | Well yeah this is where that bill was, going anyway Remember this is - essentially a lot of the things in. this proposal are things that the Democratic leadership in the House and Senate. had either, already agreed to or were on their way to agreeing, to The problem with, this bill. of course, is that in order to get t... | well, yeah, this is where that bill was going anyway. remember, this is - essentially a lot of the things in this proposal are things that the democratic leadership in the house and senate had either already agreed to or were on their way to agreeing to. the problem with this bill, of course, is that in order to get th... |
There's a lot of distrust right now between the House and the Senate. I'm just talking about Democrats. I'm not even talking about Republicans. Pretty much in order to use the budget reconciliation process, the House is going to have to pass the Senate-passed bill, and they're still not really there yet. So... | there's a lot of distrust right now, between the house and, the senate i'm just talking about democrats i'm, not even talking about. republicans pretty much in order to use the budget reconciliation process the house is going to, have to pass the senate-passed bill and. they're; still. not really there yet | There's a lot, of distrust right, now. between the, House and the Senate I'm just talking about Democrats I'm not even. talking about Republicans Pretty much, in order to use the budget reconciliation process the. House is going, to have to pass the Senate-passed bill and they're still not really there yet | there's a lot of distrust right now between the house and the senate. i'm just talking about democrats. i'm not even talking about republicans. pretty much in order to use the budget reconciliation process, the house is going to have to pass the senate-passed bill, and they're still not really there yet. so... |
Jay, I wonder if you're still listening with us in Durham? | jay i wonder if, you're still listening with us in | Jay I wonder if you're still listening with us in | jay, i wonder if you're still listening with us in durham? |
Yes, I am. | yes i | Yes I | yes, i am. |
Have you been watching this? | have you been watching | Have you been watching | have you been watching this? |
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've been following the whole - I didn't see today's summit, but I've followed the whole debate, and I couldn't reconcile in my mind how someone as smart as Obama would allow the Congress to take over in the fights, and he just lost control, it seemed like. But I'm just wondering if maybe he's just slye... | oh yeah yeah i've been following the whole - i, didn't see today's summit but i've followed the whole debate and i couldn't reconcile in my mind how someone as smart as obama would allow the congress to take over in the. fights and he just lost control it seemed like but i'm just wondering if maybe he's just slyer than... | Oh yeah Yeah I've been following the whole - I didn't see today's summit but I've followed the whole debate and I couldn't reconcile in my mind how someone as smart as Obama would allow the. Congress to take over in, the fights and he. just, lost control it seemed like But I'm, just wondering if maybe he's just slyer t... | oh, yeah. yeah, i've been following the whole - i didn't see today's summit, but i've followed the whole debate, and i couldn't reconcile in my mind how someone as smart as obama would allow the congress to take over in the fights, and he just lost control, it seemed like. but i'm just wondering if maybe he's just slye... |
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I'm sure he would like to think so. Well, maybe not. I don't know about that. Well, President Obama, Scott Horsley, kept setting deadlines. He wanted both houses to pass a bill by the end of August, before Labor Day, before the Labor Day break. These deadlines kept slipping and slipping and slipping. A lot of political... | i'm sure he would like to. think so well maybe, not i don't know about that well president obama scott horsley kept setting deadlines he wanted, both houses to pass a bill by the end of august before labor day before the labor. day break; these deadlines kept slipping and slipping and slipping a lot, of political progn... | I'm sure he would like to think so Well maybe not I don't know, about that, Well President Obama Scott Horsley kept setting deadlines He wanted both houses to pass. a bill by. the end of August before Labor Day before the Labor Day break These deadlines kept. slipping and, slipping and slipping A lot of political progn... | i'm sure he would like to think so. well, maybe not. i don't know about that. well, president obama, scott horsley, kept setting deadlines. he wanted both houses to pass a bill by the end of august, before labor day, before the labor day break. these deadlines kept slipping and slipping and slipping. a lot of political... |
He gave Congress an enormous amount of rope, and they tried to hang themselves with it and him as well. | he gave congress an; enormous amount of rope and they tried to hang, themselves with it and him as | He gave Congress an enormous amount of, rope and. they tried. to hang themselves with, it and him as | he gave congress an enormous amount of rope, and they tried to hang themselves with it and him as well. |
And indeed, after the first of the year, the most unlikely thing happened. Ted Kennedy's seat in Massachusetts came open. There was a special election for it, and much to the Democrats' surprise and chagrin, Scott Brown, a Republican, was elected, and there goes your 60- seat majority. | and indeed after the first of the year the most, unlikely thing, happened ted, kennedy's seat in, massachusetts came open there was a special election for it and much to the democrats' surprise and chagrin scott brown a republican was elected and there goes your 60- seat | And indeed after the. first of the year the most unlikely thing happened Ted Kennedy's seat in Massachusetts came open There was a special election for it and much to the Democrats' surprise and chagrin Scott Brown a Republican was elected and there goes your 60- seat | and indeed, after the first of the year, the most unlikely thing happened. ted kennedy's seat in massachusetts came open. there was a special election for it, and much to the democrats' surprise and chagrin, scott brown, a republican, was elected, and there goes your 60- seat majority. |
And Julie was talking about the negotiations that have been going on with the House and Senate leadership. I mean, the week before the Tuesday election when the Democrats lost their majority, the president was up until 1 o'clock in the morning, sitting there with House and Senate negotiators, trying to hammer out a com... | and julie was talking about the negotiations, that have been going on with the. house and senate leadership i, mean the week, before the, tuesday election when the democrats, lost, their majority the president was up until 1 o'clock in the morning; sitting there with house and senate negotiators trying to hammer out a ... | And Julie was. talking about the negotiations that have been going on, with the House and Senate leadership I mean the week before. the Tuesday election when the Democrats lost their majority the president was up until 1 o'clock in the, morning sitting there with House, and Senate negotiators trying to hammer out a com... | and julie was talking about the negotiations that have been going on with the house and senate leadership. i mean, the week before the tuesday election when the democrats lost their majority, the president was up until 1 o'clock in the morning, sitting there with house and senate negotiators, trying to hammer out a com... |
Julie Rovner? | julie | Julie | julie rovner? |
But, you know, it's important to remember he's the president and not the prime minister. I mean, we do not have, you know, a parliamentary system. The president - and boy is he discovering this the hard way - does not control the Congress. The Congress controls the Congress. And you know, he can beg, he can cajole, he ... | but you know it's important to remember he's the president and not the prime minister i mean we do not have you know a parliamentary system the president - and boy is he discovering this the hard way; - does not. control the congress the congress controls. the congress and, you know he, can beg he can cajole he can lea... | But you know it's important to remember. he's the president and not the prime. minister I mean we do not, have you know a; parliamentary system The president - and boy is he discovering this the hard way - does not control, the Congress The Congress controls the Congress And you know he can beg he can, cajole he can le... | but, you know, it's important to remember he's the president and not the prime minister. i mean, we do not have, you know, a parliamentary system. the president - and boy is he discovering this the hard way - does not control the congress. the congress controls the congress. and you know, he can beg, he can cajole, he ... |
And we're getting sort of a parliamentary glimpse today, when we actually do have the president sitting down with the lawmakers. This was sort of modeled on what he did with the House Republican caucus a few weeks ago, which the White House thought worked very well for him. He looked good in that setting, and so they'v... | and we're getting sort of a parliamentary glimpse today when we actually do have the president, sitting down with the lawmakers this was sort of modeled on what he did with the house republican caucus a few, weeks ago which the white house thought. worked very well; for him he looked good in that setting and so they've... | And we're getting sort of a parliamentary glimpse today when we actually do have the president sitting down with the lawmakers This was sort of modeled on what he did; with the House Republican caucus a few weeks ago which the White House thought worked very well for. him He looked good. in that setting and so they've ... | and we're getting sort of a parliamentary glimpse today, when we actually do have the president sitting down with the lawmakers. this was sort of modeled on what he did with the house republican caucus a few weeks ago, which the white house thought worked very well for him. he looked good in that setting, and so they'v... |
Interesting. In that setting, he was sort of, though, at a podium, set apart. Here, he's at a table, one of 40, and well, he's presiding - then again he is the president. Nevertheless, one of 40 people, though he gets the microphone, I noticed, whenever he asks for it. | interesting in that, setting he was sort of though at a, podium set. apart here he's at a table one of 40, and well he's presiding - then again, he is the president nevertheless, one of 40 people though he gets the microphone i noticed whenever he asks for | Interesting In that setting he, was sort of though at a podium, set apart Here he's at a table one of 40, and well he's presiding - then again he, is the president Nevertheless one of 40 people, though he gets the microphone I noticed whenever he asks for | interesting. in that setting, he was sort of, though, at a podium, set apart. here, he's at a table, one of 40, and well, he's presiding - then again he is the president. nevertheless, one of 40 people, though he gets the microphone, i noticed, whenever he asks for it. |
We're going to continue with Julie Rovner and with Scott Horsley and more of your calls, 800-989-8255. Email us, talk@npr.org. The health care summit continues. It's the TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News. | we're going to continue with julie rovner and with scott horsley and more of your calls 800-989-8255. email us talk@npr.org the health care summit continues it's the talk, of the nation from npr | We're going to continue with Julie Rovner and. with Scott Horsley and; more of your calls 800-989-8255. Email us talk@npr.org The health. care summit continues It's the TALK OF THE, NATION from NPR | we're going to continue with julie rovner and with scott horsley and more of your calls, 800-989-8255. email us, talk@npr.org. the health care summit continues. it's the talk of the nation from npr news. |
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This is TALK OF THE NATION. I'm Neal Conan in Washington. A remarkable, made-for-TV political event today. President Obama, Vice President Biden, select members of both parties from the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate continue to meet at Blair House, across the street from the White House, to try to compro... | this is talk of the nation i'm neal conan in washington a remarkable; made-for-tv political event today president obama vice president biden. select members of both parties from the house of representatives and the u.s senate continue to meet at blair. house across, the, street from the. white house to try to compromis... | This, is. TALK OF, THE NATION; I'm Neal. Conan; in Washington A remarkable made-for-TV political, event today President. Obama Vice President Biden select members of, both parties from the House of Representatives and the U.S Senate continue, to, meet at Blair House across the street from the White House to try, to com... | this is talk of the nation. i'm neal conan in washington. a remarkable, made-for-tv political event today. president obama, vice president biden, select members of both parties from the house of representatives and the u.s. senate continue to meet at blair house, across the street from the white house, to try to compro... |
Some 40 lawmakers seated in a square just across from the White House. Despite the high profile of the summit, expectations are low. Few, if any, expect a major agreement on much of anything by the end of the day. | some 40 lawmakers seated; in a square just across from the white house despite the high; profile of the summit expectations are. low few if any expect a, major agreement on much of anything by the end of, the | Some 40 lawmakers seated in a square, just across from the White House Despite the high. profile of the. summit expectations are low Few if any expect a major agreement on much of anything by the end of the | some 40 lawmakers seated in a square just across from the white house. despite the high profile of the summit, expectations are low. few, if any, expect a major agreement on much of anything by the end of the day. |
The event is going on live. President Obama is speaking. Let's listen in. | the event is going; on live president obama is speaking let's listen | The event is going on live, President Obama is speaking Let's listen | the event is going on live. president obama is speaking. let's listen in. |
...very useful tool for the vast majority of people who've got pre-existing conditions. Just because there's just not enough money that you guys put into it to be able to cover all the people with pre-existing conditions, which is why other states have high-risk pools, Kathleen mentioned. | ...very. useful tool. for the vast majority of people who've got, pre-existing conditions just because there's just not enough money that you guys put into it to be able to cover all the people with pre-existing conditions which is why other. states have high-risk pools kathleen | ...very useful tool for the vast majority of people. who've got pre-existing conditions Just because there's just not enough money that you guys put into it to be able to cover all, the people with, pre-existing. conditions which is why other states have high-risk pools Kathleen | ...very useful tool for the vast majority of people who've got pre-existing conditions. just because there's just not enough money that you guys put into it to be able to cover all the people with pre-existing conditions, which is why other states have high-risk pools, kathleen mentioned. |
How are you? | how are | How are | how are you? |
I'm well, thank you. | i'm well thank | I'm well thank | i'm well, thank you. |
Good. | good. | ||
There are I don't know how many states, but let's say 20, 21 states currently have high-risk pools. Out of all those 21 states, about 200,000 people use the high-risk pool. And the reason is because by just dealing with older, less healthy individuals separately or people with pre-existing conditions, it is very, very ... | there are i don't. know how many states but, let's say 20, 21 states currently have high-risk pools out of all; those, 21 states about 200,000 people use the high-risk pool and the reason is because by just dealing with older less healthy individuals separately or people with pre-existing conditions it is very, very | There are I don't know how many states but let's say 20, 21 states currently have high-risk pools Out of all, those, 21 states, about. 200,000 people use the high-risk pool And the reason is because by just dealing with older less. healthy, individuals separately or people with pre-existing conditions it is, very very | there are i don't know how many states, but let's say 20, 21 states currently have high-risk pools. out of all those 21 states, about 200,000 people use the high-risk pool. and the reason is because by just dealing with older, less healthy individuals separately or people with pre-existing conditions, it is very, very ... |
Tom's point was if everybody's in it because presumably none of us know at any given moment who's going to end up being healthy and who's not, we don't know whether our kids are going to be suffering some sort of disease that we don't anticipate yet, or, you know, our spouses get ill, that if everybody's in it, then th... | tom's point was if everybody's in it, because presumably none of us know at any given moment, who's going. to end, up being healthy and who's not we don't know, whether our kids are going to. be suffering some sort of disease that we don't anticipate yet or you know our spouses get ill that if everybody's in. it then t... | Tom's point was if everybody's in it because presumably none of us know at any given moment. who's going to end up being healthy and who's not we don't know whether our kids are going to be suffering some sort of disease that we don't anticipate yet or you, know, our spouses get ill that if everybody's in it then, that... | tom's point was if everybody's in it because presumably none of us know at any given moment who's going to end up being healthy and who's not, we don't know whether our kids are going to be suffering some sort of disease that we don't anticipate yet, or, you know, our spouses get ill, that if everybody's in it, then th... |
So it's not that I think that the high-risk pool idea is a bad one. As I said, the House, the Senate bill, the bill - the proposal that I put forward, all use the high-risk pool as a stopgap measure to get to a broader pool, but the goal has to be to get everybody in in a place where those risks are spread more broadly... | so, it's not that i think that the high-risk pool idea is, a. bad one as i said the house the senate bill. the, bill - the proposal that i put forward all use the high-risk pool as a stopgap measure to get to a broader pool. but the goal has to be to get everybody in in a place where those, risks are spread more | So it's. not that I think that the high-risk pool idea is a bad one As I said the House the Senate bill the bill - the proposal that I put forward, all use the high-risk, pool as a stopgap measure to get to a broader pool but the goal has to be to get everybody in, in, a place where, those risks are spread more | so it's not that i think that the high-risk pool idea is a bad one. as i said, the house, the senate bill, the bill - the proposal that i put forward, all use the high-risk pool as a stopgap measure to get to a broader pool, but the goal has to be to get everybody in in a place where those risks are spread more broadly... |
And if I just might say, we support high-risk pools and reinsurance with $25 billion in funding. The House and Senate versions are $5 billion in funding, and because of that robust support, CBO says this will work. | and if i just might say we support high-risk pools and reinsurance with, $25 billion in funding the house and senate versions are $5 billion in funding and, because of that robust support cbo says this will. | And if I just might say we support high-risk pools, and reinsurance with $25 billion in funding; The House and Senate versions are $5 billion in funding and because of that robust support CBO says this will | and if i just might say, we support high-risk pools and reinsurance with $25 billion in funding. the house and senate versions are $5 billion in funding, and because of that robust support, cbo says this will work. |
The fundamental difference after that is that the Health and Human Services secretary, in that four-year period when they're somewhat similar, has the authority to raise the premiums. All of that is brought to Washington. | the fundamental difference. after that is that the health, and human services secretary in that four-year period when. they're somewhat similar has the. authority to raise the premiums. all of that is brought to | The, fundamental difference after that is. that the Health and Human Services secretary in that four-year period when, they're somewhat, similar has the authority to raise the premiums All of that is brought to. | the fundamental difference after that is that the health and human services secretary, in that four-year period when they're somewhat similar, has the authority to raise the premiums. all of that is brought to washington. |
We leave that authority in the states so that they can manage their state pools. And then after the bill becomes effective in 2014, the real problem becomes this - the mandate and the costs, the forcing of the purchase of insurance, which many Americans find objectionable, and that - you can avoid that mandate if you c... | we leave that, authority in the states so that they can manage their state pools and, then after the bill becomes effective in 2014, the real problem becomes this - the mandate and the costs the forcing of the purchase of, insurance which many americans find objectionable. and that. - you can avoid that mandate if you ... | We leave that. authority in the states so that they can, manage their state pools And then after the bill becomes effective in 2014, the real problem becomes this - the mandate, and the costs the forcing of the purchase of insurance which many Americans. find objectionable and that - you can avoid that mandate; if you ... | we leave that authority in the states so that they can manage their state pools. and then after the bill becomes effective in 2014, the real problem becomes this - the mandate and the costs, the forcing of the purchase of insurance, which many americans find objectionable, and that - you can avoid that mandate if you c... |
And that second voice there, Dave Camp, a Republican congressman from Michigan, a member of the House Ways and Means Committee. And Julie Rovner, let's get a little translation of what they were talking about: the high-risk pools, we're talking about pre-existing conditions here? | and that second voice there dave camp a republican congressman from michigan a, member of the house ways and means committee and julie rovner let's get a little translation. of what they were, talking about: the high-risk pools we're talking, about pre-existing conditions, | And that, second voice there Dave Camp, a Republican congressman from. Michigan a member of the. House Ways and Means Committee, And Julie Rovner let's get a little translation, of what they were talking about: the high-risk pools we're. talking about pre-existing conditions | and that second voice there, dave camp, a republican congressman from michigan, a member of the house ways and means committee. and julie rovner, let's get a little translation of what they were talking about: the high-risk pools, we're talking about pre-existing conditions here? |
That's right. This was something that Senator McCain, in fact, when he was running for president last year proposed. This was one of the centerpieces of his health care proposal. Indeed as Congressman Camp was mentioning, many states have these. They actually don't work so well. As the president pointed out, only about... | that's right this was something that senator mccain in fact when he, was running for president last year proposed this was one of the centerpieces. of, his health care. proposal indeed as congressman camp was mentioning. many states have these they actually don't work so well as the president pointed out only about 200... | That's right This was something that Senator McCain. in fact when he was running for, president last year proposed This was one of the centerpieces of. his health care proposal Indeed as Congressman Camp, was mentioning many states have these, They actually don't work so well As, the president pointed out, only about 2... | that's right. this was something that senator mccain, in fact, when he was running for president last year proposed. this was one of the centerpieces of his health care proposal. indeed as congressman camp was mentioning, many states have these. they actually don't work so well. as the president pointed out, only about... |
So if you get diagnosed with cancer, you won't be able to buy insurance, and they'll say you're eligible for the state's high-risk pool, but then they may say you have to wait a year. So obviously, if you have cancer, it's a problem to then wait a year to get covered in the state's high- risk pool. And once you get in,... | so if you, get diagnosed with; cancer you won't, be able to buy insurance and they'll say you're. eligible for, the state's, high-risk pool, but then they may say you have to wait a year so obviously if. you have cancer it's a problem to then wait a year to get covered in the state's high- risk pool and, once you. get ... | So if you get diagnosed with cancer you won't be able; to buy insurance and they'll say you're eligible for the state's high-risk pool but, then they may say you have, to wait, a year So obviously if you have cancer it's a problem to then wait a year to get covered in the state's high- risk pool And once you get in, th... | so if you get diagnosed with cancer, you won't be able to buy insurance, and they'll say you're eligible for the state's high-risk pool, but then they may say you have to wait a year. so obviously, if you have cancer, it's a problem to then wait a year to get covered in the state's high- risk pool. and once you get in,... |
So the idea here is that while it will take several years before this bill, assuming it was passed, were to take effect, they would have high- risk pools for people with pre-existing conditions in the interim, and there would be a considerably larger amount of money to help fund them. | so the idea here is. that while it will take, several years before this bill assuming it was passed were to take effect, they would have high- risk pools for people with pre-existing. conditions in the interim and there would be. a considerably larger amount of; money; to help fund | So the idea, here is, that while it will take several years before this bill assuming it was passed were to take effect they would have high- risk pools for people with pre-existing. conditions in; the interim and there would be a. considerably, larger, amount of money. to help fund | so the idea here is that while it will take several years before this bill, assuming it was passed, were to take effect, they would have high- risk pools for people with pre-existing conditions in the interim, and there would be a considerably larger amount of money to help fund them. |
The Democratic plan is to use the high-risk pool as a means to get from here to there, until the ban on insurance companies using pre- existing conditions to exclude people... | the democratic plan is to use the high-risk pool as a means to get from here to there until the ban on insurance companies using pre- existing conditions to exclude | The, Democratic plan is to use the high-risk pool as. a means to get from here to there until the ban on insurance companies using pre- existing conditions to exclude | the democratic plan is to use the high-risk pool as a means to get from here to there, until the ban on insurance companies using pre- existing conditions to exclude people... |
Kicks in in 2014. | kicks in in | Kicks; in in | kicks in in 2014. |
For the Republicans, this is the plan. This is what you would have forever. | for the republicans this is. the plan this is what you would, have | For. the Republicans this is the plan This. is what you would have, | for the republicans, this is the plan. this is what you would have forever. |
In perpetuity. And when we hear a Republican like Dave Camp say mandates, he's saying Washington will require you to buy insurance. | in perpetuity and when we hear a republican like dave camp say, mandates he's saying washington will require. you to buy. | In perpetuity, And when we hear a Republican like Dave Camp say mandates he's. saying Washington will require you to buy | in perpetuity. and when we hear a republican like dave camp say mandates, he's saying washington will require you to buy insurance. |
This is the quandary because there's an agreement on both sides of the aisle that you don't want to have people excluded from having insurance because they have a pre-existing condition. But if you tell insurance companies you have to cover everybody, then people would naturally not buy insurance until they got sick, a... | this is; the quandary because there's an agreement on both sides of the aisle that you don't want to have people excluded from having insurance because they have a pre-existing condition but if you tell insurance companies you have to, cover everybody. then people would. naturally not buy, insurance until they got sick... | This, is the quandary because there's an agreement on both sides of the aisle that you don't want to have people excluded from having insurance because they have a pre-existing condition But. if, you tell insurance companies you have to, cover everybody then people would naturally not buy insurance until, they, got sic... | this is the quandary because there's an agreement on both sides of the aisle that you don't want to have people excluded from having insurance because they have a pre-existing condition. but if you tell insurance companies you have to cover everybody, then people would naturally not buy insurance until they got sick, a... |
So the Democratic answer to that is, well, so you have a mandate. You require everyone to get insurance. | so. the, democratic, answer to that is well; so you. have a mandate you require everyone, to get | So the Democratic. answer to that, is well so you have a mandate You require. everyone to get | so the democratic answer to that is, well, so you have a mandate. you require everyone to get insurance. |
Everybody buys insurance. | everybody buys | Everybody buys | everybody buys insurance. |
And you subsidize those who couldn't afford it on their own. | and you, subsidize those who couldn't afford it on their | And you subsidize those who couldn't afford, it on their | and you subsidize those who couldn't afford it on their own. |
And then you get into escalating cost, which is, well, there's another part of the controversy that we're talking today and the fundamental differences, which are apparently not being bridged as we listen. | and then you get into escalating cost which is well there's another part of the controversy that we're talking today and the. fundamental differences which are, apparently not being, bridged as. we | And then, you get. into escalating cost; which, is well there's another part of the, controversy that we're talking today, and the fundamental differences which are apparently not being bridged as we | and then you get into escalating cost, which is, well, there's another part of the controversy that we're talking today and the fundamental differences, which are apparently not being bridged as we listen. |
Barbara's(ph) on the line, calling from Greenwich, Connecticut. | barbara's(ph) on the line calling from greenwich | Barbara's(ph) on the line calling from Greenwich | barbara's(ph) on the line, calling from greenwich, connecticut. |
Hi, yes. I actually can hear the president coming through with some facts and not just talking points and actually calling out when various members are only doing talking points and really finding places where there are - there is agreement, and that things can go forward. I just wonder if the media will ever acknowled... | hi. yes i actually can hear the president coming, through with some. facts and not, just talking points. and actually calling out when various members are only doing talking points and really finding places where there are - there is agreement. and that things can; go forward i just wonder if, the media will ever ackno... | Hi yes I actually. can hear the president coming through with some facts and, not just talking points and actually calling out when various members are only, doing talking points and really finding places where there are, - there is agreement and that things, can go. forward I just wonder if the media will ever acknowl... | hi, yes. i actually can hear the president coming through with some facts and not just talking points and actually calling out when various members are only doing talking points and really finding places where there are - there is agreement, and that things can go forward. i just wonder if the media will ever acknowled... |
Julie Rovner? | julie | Julie | julie rovner? |
Well, the president is trying, I will say. His goal is to try to find places where there are areas of agreement. And indeed, I think in the proposal the president put forward on Monday, he - you know, there was a whole sheet that they put out. You know, here are all the places that Republicans had proposed ideas that w... | well the president is trying; i will say his. goal is to try to find places where there are areas; of agreement and, indeed i think in the proposal the, president put forward, on monday he - you know there was a whole sheet that they put, out you know here are all the places that republicans, had proposed ideas that we... | Well the president is trying I will say. His goal, is to try to find places where there. are areas of agreement And indeed I think in the proposal the president. put forward on Monday. he - you know there was a whole sheet that they put out You. know here are all the places that Republicans had proposed ideas. that. we... | well, the president is trying, i will say. his goal is to try to find places where there are areas of agreement. and indeed, i think in the proposal the president put forward on monday, he - you know, there was a whole sheet that they put out. you know, here are all the places that republicans had proposed ideas that w... |
But as I mentioned a few minutes ago, the fundamental problem is that there's a - such a big difference in philosophy between what the Democrats want and what the Republicans want when it comes to the role of government. That even if you take a lot of these Republican ideas and put them in the bill, if the bill is so h... | but as i mentioned a few minutes ago the fundamental problem is that there's. a - such a big difference in philosophy between what the democrats want and what the republicans, want when it comes to the. role, of government, that even if you take a lot of these republican ideas and. put them in the bill if the bill is s... | But as I mentioned a few minutes ago the fundamental problem is that there's a - such a, big difference in philosophy between what the Democrats want and what the Republicans want when it comes to the, role of government That even if you take a lot of these Republican. ideas and put them in the bill if the bill is so h... | but as i mentioned a few minutes ago, the fundamental problem is that there's a - such a big difference in philosophy between what the democrats want and what the republicans want when it comes to the role of government. that even if you take a lot of these republican ideas and put them in the bill, if the bill is so h... |
If we're talking about the Republicans in Congress in 2010. | if we're. talking about, the republicans in congress in | If we're talking about the Republicans. in Congress in | if we're talking about the republicans in congress in 2010. |
That's right. | that's | That's | that's right. |
In South Africa, President Jacob Zuma faces yet another vote of no confidence this morning. Zuma's party has bailed him out from at least five previous attempts to remove him. But this time, things could be different. Here's reporter Peter Granitz in Pretoria. | in. south africa president jacob, zuma faces yet another vote of no confidence this morning zuma's party has bailed him out from at least five previous attempts to, remove him but. this, time things could. be different here's reporter, peter granitz in | In South Africa President Jacob. Zuma faces yet another vote of no confidence this morning Zuma's party has bailed him out from at. least five previous attempts to remove him But this time things could be different Here's reporter Peter Granitz in | in south africa, president jacob zuma faces yet another vote of no confidence this morning. zuma's party has bailed him out from at least five previous attempts to remove him. but this time, things could be different. here's reporter peter granitz in pretoria. |
I mean, this is - the Democratic plan is very similar to the plan that the Republican governor, Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, endorsed. It's similar to a plan that Republicans like Chuck Grassley had endorsed years ago, but where the Republican Party in Congress is today, this is a bridge too far. | i mean this is - the democratic plan is very similar to, the, plan that the republican governor mitt romney of massachusetts, endorsed it's similar; to a plan that republicans, like chuck grassley had endorsed years ago but where the republican party in congress is today this is, a bridge too | I mean this is - the Democratic plan is very similar, to the plan that the Republican, governor. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts endorsed It's similar. to a plan that Republicans like Chuck Grassley had endorsed years ago but where the Republican Party in Congress, is today this is a bridge too | i mean, this is - the democratic plan is very similar to the plan that the republican governor, mitt romney of massachusetts, endorsed. it's similar to a plan that republicans like chuck grassley had endorsed years ago, but where the republican party in congress is today, this is a bridge too far. |
In fact, the individual mandate that they're talking about now was originally - was dreamed up by Republicans for Republicans back in the early 1990s to counter - originally it was to counter the employer mandate that was being pushed in the 1988 election but also then to - was introduced in Congress to counter the Cli... | in fact the individual mandate that they're talking about now was originally - was dreamed up by republicans for republicans back in the early 1990s to. counter - originally it was to counter the employer mandate that was being pushed in the 1988 election but also then to, - was introduced in congress to counter the cl... | In fact, the individual mandate that they're talking about now was originally - was dreamed up by Republicans, for Republicans back in the early 1990s to counter - originally it was, to counter, the employer mandate that was, being pushed in the, 1988 election but also then to - was introduced in Congress. to counter t... | in fact, the individual mandate that they're talking about now was originally - was dreamed up by republicans for republicans back in the early 1990s to counter - originally it was to counter the employer mandate that was being pushed in the 1988 election but also then to - was introduced in congress to counter the cli... |
And Barbara, your point on, well, chiding Republicans about talking points, let's listen to an exchange he has, the president has here, with Eric Cantor, a Republican of Virginia, the deputy whip, I think, from the House of Representatives. And he - as Representative Cantor begins to speak, there's a huge stack of docu... | and barbara your point on well chiding republicans about talking points, let's listen to an exchange he has the president has here with, eric cantor a republican of virginia the deputy whip i think from. the house, of representatives and he - as, representative cantor begins to speak there's a huge stack of documents i... | And Barbara your point on well chiding. Republicans about talking points let's, listen to; an exchange he; has the president has here. with Eric; Cantor a Republican of Virginia the deputy whip. I think from the House of Representatives And, he - as Representative Cantor begins to. speak there's a. huge stack of docume... | and barbara, your point on, well, chiding republicans about talking points, let's listen to an exchange he has, the president has here, with eric cantor, a republican of virginia, the deputy whip, i think, from the house of representatives. and he - as representative cantor begins to speak, there's a huge stack of docu... |
Mr. President, thank you again very much for having us and for staying with us for the six hours, appreciate that. I don't know if you will after the six hours or not, but... | mr president thank you again very much for having us. and for staying with us for the, six hours appreciate that i don't know if you will, after the six hours or; not | Mr President thank. you again very much for having us and for. staying with us for the six hours appreciate that I don't know if you will after the six hours or not. | mr. president, thank you again very much for having us and for staying with us for the six hours, appreciate that. i don't know if you will after the six hours or not, but... |
I gather - let me just guess. That's the 2,400-page health care bill. Is that right? | i gather - let, me just guess. that's the 2,400-page health care bill is, that | I gather - let me just guess That's, the, 2,400-page health, care bill Is that | i gather - let me just guess. that's the 2,400-page health care bill. is that right? |
Well, actually, Mr. President, this is the Senate bill, along with the... | well actually mr president this is the senate bill along. with | Well actually Mr President this is the Senate bill along. with | well, actually, mr. president, this is the senate bill, along with the... |
Okay. | okay. | ||
...11-page proposal that you put up online that really I think is the basis for the discussion here. So - but I do want to go back to your suggestion as to why we're here, and you suggested that maybe we are here to find some points of agreement, to bridge the gap in our differences. | ...11-page proposal that you put up online that really i think is the basis for the discussion. here so - but i do want to go. back to your suggestion as to why. we're here and you suggested that maybe we are here to find some points of agreement to bridge the gap in our | ...11-page proposal that you put, up online that really I think is the basis for the discussion here So. - but I do want to go, back to your suggestion as to why we're here and you suggested that maybe we are here to find some points of agreement to, bridge the gap in our | ...11-page proposal that you put up online that really i think is the basis for the discussion here. so - but i do want to go back to your suggestion as to why we're here, and you suggested that maybe we are here to find some points of agreement, to bridge the gap in our differences. |
And I do like to go back to basics. We're here because we Republicans care about health care, just as the Democrats in this room. And when the speaker cites her letters from the folks in Michigan, and the leader talks about the letters he's received, Mr. Andrews(ph) his, all of us share the concerns when people are all... | and i do like to go back to basics we're here because we republicans care about health care just as the democrats in this room and when the speaker cites her letters from, the folks in michigan and the leader talks about the letters he's received mr andrews(ph) his all of us share the concerns when people are. allegedl... | And I do like. to go back to basics, We're here; because we Republicans care about health care just as the Democrats in this room And when the speaker cites her letters from the folks, in Michigan. and the leader talks, about the, letters he's received Mr Andrews(ph) his, all of us share the concerns when people are al... | and i do like to go back to basics. we're here because we republicans care about health care, just as the democrats in this room. and when the speaker cites her letters from the folks in michigan, and the leader talks about the letters he's received, mr. andrews(ph) his, all of us share the concerns when people are all... |
And Mr. Cantor there, the congressman from Virginia, Julie, making the point that yes, all right, maybe I'm using a political prop with this stack of documents and showing how big the bill is. Democrats keep reading letters from constituents saying how wronged they have been, pulling at the emotional heartstrings, and ... | and mr, cantor, there the congressman from virginia julie making the point that yes all right maybe i'm. using a political prop with this, stack of documents and showing how big the bill is democrats keep reading letters from constituents saying how wronged they have been pulling at the emotional, heartstrings and that... | And Mr Cantor there the, congressman from Virginia, Julie making the point that yes all right maybe I'm using a political prop with this stack of documents and showing how big the bill, is Democrats keep reading letters from constituents saying how wronged they have been pulling at the, emotional, heartstrings. and tha... | and mr. cantor there, the congressman from virginia, julie, making the point that yes, all right, maybe i'm using a political prop with this stack of documents and showing how big the bill is. democrats keep reading letters from constituents saying how wronged they have been, pulling at the emotional heartstrings, and ... |
That's right, it is. And that's back to the point that I was making originally, that this is definitely a made-for-TV event. This is not - it's very difficult. This goes back, I think the origin of - part of the origin of today's event is that the president perhaps not very helpfully promised that the negotiations - wh... | that's, right it is and that's back to the point that i was making. originally; that this is definitely a made-for-tv. event this is not - it's very difficult this goes back i think the; origin of - part, of the origin of today's event is that the president perhaps not very helpfully promised that the negotiations - wh... | That's right it is, And that's back to the point that I was making originally that this is. definitely a made-for-TV event This is not - it's very difficult This goes. back I think; the, origin of - part of the origin of; today's event is, that the, president perhaps not very, helpfully promised that the negotiations -... | that's right, it is. and that's back to the point that i was making originally, that this is definitely a made-for-tv event. this is not - it's very difficult. this goes back, i think the origin of - part of the origin of today's event is that the president perhaps not very helpfully promised that the negotiations - wh... |
So here we are with this being televised on C-SPAN. But it's very hard to do serious negotiations on C-SPAN because you end up with a lot of, you know, playing to the cameras, and today is an awful lot of playing to the cameras. | so here we are with this being, televised on c-span but it's very hard to do serious negotiations on c-span. because you end up with. a, lot of you know playing to the cameras and today is an awful lot of playing to the | So here we are, with this being televised on, C-SPAN, But it's very hard to do serious negotiations on C-SPAN because you end up with a lot of you know playing to the cameras and. today is an awful lot of playing to the | so here we are with this being televised on c-span. but it's very hard to do serious negotiations on c-span because you end up with a lot of, you know, playing to the cameras, and today is an awful lot of playing to the cameras. |
It was a point that Senator John McCain, his opponent in the last election, John McCain of course Republican of Arizona, made in his remarks when he addressed the health care summit earlier this morning, and this is what President Obama had to say in response. | it was a point that senator john mccain his opponent in the last election john, mccain of course republican of arizona made in his remarks when he addressed the health care summit earlier this morning and this is what president obama had to say in | It was. a point that Senator. John McCain his opponent in the. last; election John McCain of course Republican, of Arizona made. in his remarks when he addressed the health care summit earlier this morning and this is what President Obama had to say, in | it was a point that senator john mccain, his opponent in the last election, john mccain of course republican of arizona, made in his remarks when he addressed the health care summit earlier this morning, and this is what president obama had to say in response. |
Let me just make this point, John, because we're not campaigning anymore. The election's over. The... | let me just. make. this, point john because we're not campaigning anymore the election's over | Let me just make this point John because. we're not campaigning anymore The election's over; | let me just make this point, john, because we're not campaigning anymore. the election's over. the... |
I'm reminded of that every day. | i'm. reminded of, that every | I'm reminded of that every | i'm reminded of that every day. |
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...well, I - yeah. So the - we can spend the remainder of the time with our respective talking points going back and forth. We were supposed to be talking about insurance. You know, obviously, I'm sure that Harry Reid and Chris Dodd and others who went through an exhaustive process through the both the House and the Se... | ...well i - yeah so the - we can spend the remainder of the time with our respective talking points going back and forth. we were supposed, to be. talking about insurance; you know; obviously i'm sure that harry reid and chris dodd and others who, went through an, exhaustive, process through the. both the house and the... | ...well. I - yeah So the - we can spend the remainder of the time with our respective talking points going back and forth We were supposed to be; talking about insurance, You, know obviously I'm sure that Harry Reid and Chris Dodd and others who went through an exhaustive process through the both the House and the Sena... | ...well, i - yeah. so the - we can spend the remainder of the time with our respective talking points going back and forth. we were supposed to be talking about insurance. you know, obviously, i'm sure that harry reid and chris dodd and others who went through an exhaustive process through the both the house and the se... |
My concern is is that if we do that, then we're essentially back on Fox News or MSNBC on the split screen just arguing back and forth. So my hope would be that we can just focus on the issues of how we actually get a bill done. And this is probably a good time to turn it over to Secretary Sebelius, who... | my concern is is that if we do that then we're essentially back on fox news or, msnbc on the split screen. just arguing; back and forth so my hope would be that we can just focus on the issues of how we actually get a bill, done and this is probably a, good time to turn it. over, to secretary sebelius | My concern is is that if, we. do that then we're essentially back on Fox News or MSNBC on the split screen just arguing back and forth So my hope would be that we can just focus on the issues of how we actually get a bill done And this is probably a good time, to turn it over to Secretary Sebelius | my concern is is that if we do that, then we're essentially back on fox news or msnbc on the split screen just arguing back and forth. so my hope would be that we can just focus on the issues of how we actually get a bill done. and this is probably a good time to turn it over to secretary sebelius, who... |
Could I just say, Mr. President, the American people care about what we did and how we did it. | could i just say mr president the american people care about, what we did and. how we did | Could I just say. Mr President the American people care about what we. did and how we did | could i just say, mr. president, the american people care about what we did and how we did it. |
Well, they absolutely... | well they | Well they. | well, they absolutely... |
And I think we ought - and that's a subject that I think we should discuss now. Thank you. | and i think we ought - and that's a. subject that i think we should discuss now thank | And I think we ought - and that's a subject that, I think we should discuss. now Thank | and i think we ought - and that's a subject that i think we should discuss now. thank you. |
They absolutely do care about it, John. And I think that the way you characterized it, obviously, would get some strong objections from the other side. We can have a debate about process, or we can have a debate about how we're actually going to help the American people at this point. | they absolutely do care about. it john; and i think that the way you characterized it. obviously would get some strong objections from the other. side we can have a debate, about process or we can have a. debate about how we're actually going to help. the american, people, at this, | They absolutely do care. about it John And I think that the way you characterized it obviously, would get some strong, objections from the other side We can have a debate about process or we can. have a. debate, about how we're actually going to help the American people at this. | they absolutely do care about it, john. and i think that the way you characterized it, obviously, would get some strong objections from the other side. we can have a debate about process, or we can have a debate about how we're actually going to help the american people at this point. |
And Scott Horsley, when Senator McCain referred to process, he was talking about the special deal for Florida, the special deal for Louisiana, the special deal for Nebraska, which was in, and then out. But, anyway, he said this is terribly unseemly. We need to go back and start - and special interest deals, as well - s... | and. scott horsley when, senator mccain referred to process he was. talking about the special deal for florida, the special deal for louisiana. the. special deal for, nebraska which was in, and then out but anyway he said this is terribly unseemly we need to go back. and start - and, special interest deals as well - st... | And Scott Horsley when Senator McCain referred. to process. he was, talking about the special deal for Florida the special deal for Louisiana the special deal for Nebraska which was in and then out But anyway, he said this is terribly, unseemly We need, to go back and start - and, special interest deals, as well - star... | and scott horsley, when senator mccain referred to process, he was talking about the special deal for florida, the special deal for louisiana, the special deal for nebraska, which was in, and then out. but, anyway, he said this is terribly unseemly. we need to go back and start - and special interest deals, as well - s... |
And I think it is unseemly, and it is a big part of what the American people turned against as this process dragged on and on. And I - more so than Eric Cantor, more so than Senator Alexander, I think John McCain got under the president's skin a little bit. You heard a little bit of testiness from President Obama there... | and i think it is unseemly and it is, a big part of what the, american, people turned, against as this process dragged on and on and i - more so than eric cantor more so than senator alexander i think john mccain. got, under the. president's skin a little bit, you heard a little bit of testiness from president obama th... | And I think, it is unseemly and it is a big; part, of what the American people turned against as. this process dragged on and on And I - more so than Eric, Cantor more so than Senator Alexander I think John McCain got under the, president's skin a little bit You heard, a little, bit of testiness from President Obama th... | and i think it is unseemly, and it is a big part of what the american people turned against as this process dragged on and on. and i - more so than eric cantor, more so than senator alexander, i think john mccain got under the president's skin a little bit. you heard a little bit of testiness from president obama there... |
We're talking with Scott Horsley, NPR White House correspondent, and with Julie Rovner, our health policy correspondent about the health care summit that's underway at Blair House across the street from the White House. You're listening to TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News. | we're talking with scott horsley npr white house correspondent and with julie rovner our health policy correspondent about the health care summit that's. underway at blair house across the; street from the, white house you're listening to talk of the nation from npr; | We're talking with Scott Horsley NPR White House correspondent and with Julie Rovner our health policy correspondent about the, health care summit that's underway at Blair House, across the. street, from the White House You're listening, to TALK OF THE NATION from NPR | we're talking with scott horsley, npr white house correspondent, and with julie rovner, our health policy correspondent about the health care summit that's underway at blair house across the street from the white house. you're listening to talk of the nation from npr news. |
And let's go next to Martine(ph), Martine with us from Portland. | and let's go next to martine(ph), martine, with. us from | And let's. go next, to Martine(ph), Martine with us from | and let's go next to martine(ph), martine with us from portland. |
Yeah, hi. I guess my point that - is that - as I told your screener, I'm married to a Republican. I'm a Democrat. I would say we're both moderates. | yeah, hi i guess my point that - is, that, - as i told your screener i'm married to a republican i'm a. democrat i would say, we're both | Yeah hi I guess my point that - is that - as I told your. screener I'm married to a Republican I'm a Democrat. I would say. we're both | yeah, hi. i guess my point that - is that - as i told your screener, i'm married to a republican. i'm a democrat. i would say we're both moderates. |
Do your dinner conversations sound like what we've been hearing all day at Blair House? | do your dinner conversations sound like what we've; been hearing all day at blair | Do your, dinner conversations sound like what we've been hearing, all day at Blair, | do your dinner conversations sound like what we've been hearing all day at blair house? |
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Well, my husband - when we start to talk politics, you know, we definitely try to avoid certain things. But... | well my husband - when we start to talk politics you know we definitely try to avoid certain things | Well my husband - when we start to talk politics you know we, definitely try to avoid certain things | well, my husband - when we start to talk politics, you know, we definitely try to avoid certain things. but... |
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Exactly. You've got it. But one thing, I think, you know, as I'm hearing this, and one conversation that we have had is that, you know, I'm from Oregon. It's a fairly liberal state. But my husband, being a moderate Republican, we have friends that are moderate Republicans. We all want something to happen. We all need t... | exactly you've got it but one thing i think you know as, i'm hearing this and one conversation that we have had is that you know i'm from oregon it's a fairly liberal state but my husband being a moderate republican we have, friends that are moderate republicans we all want something to happen we all need the process t... | Exactly You've got it But one thing I think you know as I'm hearing, this and one conversation that we, have had is that you know I'm from Oregon It's a fairly liberal state But my husband. being a. moderate Republican we have friends that. are. moderate Republicans We all want something to happen We all; need the proc... | exactly. you've got it. but one thing, i think, you know, as i'm hearing this, and one conversation that we have had is that, you know, i'm from oregon. it's a fairly liberal state. but my husband, being a moderate republican, we have friends that are moderate republicans. we all want something to happen. we all need t... |
It's like where is the Republican Party as far as the moderate Republican? I know they want a change, you know? It happens in every - many other countries. There's successful health care, you know, without screaming socialism. It can be done, you know? And I, as far as being Democrat, have been frustrated with my own p... | it's like where is the republican party as far as the moderate. republican? i know they want a change you know? it happens in every. - many other, countries there's successful health care you know without screaming socialism it. can be done you know? and i as far as being democrat have been frustrated with my own party... | It's like where is the Republican Party as far as, the moderate Republican? I know they want a change. you know? It happens in every - many other countries There's successful health care you know without. screaming socialism It can be. done you. know? And I as far as, being Democrat have been frustrated with my own par... | it's like where is the republican party as far as the moderate republican? i know they want a change, you know? it happens in every - many other countries. there's successful health care, you know, without screaming socialism. it can be done, you know? and i, as far as being democrat, have been frustrated with my own p... |
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