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But in this case, the degree to which the government has paid for the vaccine research and development is a little bit more than usual when the government contracts and gives its intellectual property to private companies. | but in this case the degree to which the government has paid for the vaccine research and development is a little bit more than, usual when the government contracts and gives its intellectual property to private. | But in this, case the degree to which the government has paid for the vaccine. research and development is a little bit more than usual when. the. government contracts and gives its intellectual property to private | but in this case, the degree to which the government has paid for the vaccine research and development is a little bit more than usual when the government contracts and gives its intellectual property to private companies. |
Is there something really widely symbolic here that's really representative of the drug industry in that it's taxpayer-funded? This isn't really the free market, but in the end, a company gets a product and they can say, well, it's the free market. We can charge 20 times what you think we should charge if there's an em... | is, there something really widely symbolic here that's really representative of the. drug, industry in that. it's taxpayer-funded? this isn't really the, free market but in. the end a company gets a, product and they can say well it's the. free market we can charge 20 times what you think, we should charge; if there's ... | Is there something really widely. symbolic here that's really representative of the drug industry, in that it's taxpayer-funded? This isn't really the free, market but in the end a company gets a, product, and they can say well it's the free market We can charge 20 times what. you. think, we should charge if there's an... | is there something really widely symbolic here that's really representative of the drug industry in that it's taxpayer-funded? this isn't really the free market, but in the end, a company gets a product and they can say, well, it's the free market. we can charge 20 times what you think we should charge if there's an em... |
Yeah, and that's what people like Dr. Gee in Louisiana say. They're worried that the taxpayers have paid for this and they will pay again when Medicaid and public health departments have to buy the vaccine. Yet, the government is not getting any assurance that Sanofi will charge consumers in the U.S. a fair price or an... | yeah and. that's what people, like dr gee in louisiana say they're worried that the taxpayers have paid for this and they will pay again when medicaid and public health departments have to buy the; vaccine. yet the; government, is not getting any assurance that sanofi will charge consumers in the u.s a fair price or an... | Yeah and that's what people like Dr Gee in Louisiana say They're worried that the taxpayers have paid. for this and they will pay again when Medicaid and public, health, departments have to buy the vaccine Yet the government, is not, getting any assurance that Sanofi will charge consumers in the U.S, a fair price or an... | yeah, and that's what people like dr. gee in louisiana say. they're worried that the taxpayers have paid for this and they will pay again when medicaid and public health departments have to buy the vaccine. yet, the government is not getting any assurance that sanofi will charge consumers in the u.s. a fair price or an... |
The U.S. pays more for drugs than any other country in the world. | the. u.s pays more for drugs than any other country in the | The U.S pays more; for. drugs than, any other country in the | the u.s. pays more for drugs than any other country in the world. |
And is there any reason to suspect this particular company of price gouging? Let's remember, they haven't actually sold the thing yet. | and is there any reason to suspect this, particular company of price gouging? let's remember they haven't actually sold the thing; | And, is there any reason to suspect this, particular company of price; gouging? Let's remember they haven't actually sold the thing, | and is there any reason to suspect this particular company of price gouging? let's remember, they haven't actually sold the thing yet. |
Well, they aren't any different than other drug companies, but they do charge more in the U.S. for other drugs than they charge in other countries. So it's a pattern, and there's no reason to think that they'll do any different here. | well they aren't any different than other. drug companies. but, they do charge more in the u.s for; other drugs than they charge, in other countries so. it's a pattern and there's no reason to think that they'll do any different | Well they aren't any different than other drug companies but they do charge. more in the U.S for other drugs than; they charge in other countries So it's a pattern and there's no reason to think that they'll do any different | well, they aren't any different than other drug companies, but they do charge more in the u.s. for other drugs than they charge in other countries. so it's a pattern, and there's no reason to think that they'll do any different here. |
OK. Alison, thanks as always. | ok alison thanks as | OK Alison thanks, as | ok. alison, thanks as always. |
Thank you, Steve. | thank you | Thank you | thank you, steve. |
That's NPR's Alison Kodjak this morning. And one final note as we get your guide to the news today. Manuel Noriega, the former leader of Panama, has died. | that's npr's alison kodjak this morning and one final note as we get, your guide to the news today manuel noriega the former leader of panama has | That's NPR's Alison Kodjak this. morning And. one final note as we get your guide to the news today Manuel Noriega, the, former leader of Panama has, | that's npr's alison kodjak this morning. and one final note as we get your guide to the news today. manuel noriega, the former leader of panama, has died. |
Isn't that a name that's just remained on our consciousness for so many years? | isn't that a name that's just remained on our consciousness, for, so many | Isn't that a name that's just remained on; our consciousness for so many | isn't that a name that's just remained on our consciousness for so many years? |
Yeah. | yeah. | ||
He was a strong man in the 1980s, first an ally of the United States but then really an obstacle. He was accused of interfering with an election that didn't go his way. | he was. a strong man in the 1980s first an ally of the united states but then really an obstacle he, was accused of interfering with an election that didn't go his | He was a strong man in the 1980s first an ally of the United States but then really an obstacle He was accused of interfering with an election that didn't go his | he was a strong man in the 1980s, first an ally of the united states but then really an obstacle. he was accused of interfering with an election that didn't go his way. |
And the United States military under President George H.W. Bush removed him from power in 1989, blasting rock music at an annoying volume at the building where Manuel Noriega took shelter. He spent years afterward in and out of prison. | and the united states, military under president george h.w; bush, removed him from power in 1989, blasting rock music at an annoying volume at the building where manuel noriega took shelter he spent years afterward in and out of | And the United States military under President George H.W Bush removed him from power in 1989, blasting rock music at, an annoying, volume at. the building where Manuel Noriega took shelter He spent years afterward in, and out of | and the united states military under president george h.w. bush removed him from power in 1989, blasting rock music at an annoying volume at the building where manuel noriega took shelter. he spent years afterward in and out of prison. |
This next story is a story of retaliation. The U.S. Senate approved a package of tough financial sanctions against North Korea, Iran and Russia. This was one way for Congress to punish Moscow for meddling in the 2016 election. And now Russia has responded. It says it will shut down a U.S. embassy retreat outside Moscow... | this. next story is a story of retaliation the u.s, senate approved a package of tough financial sanctions against north korea iran and russia; this was one way for. congress to punish moscow for meddling in the 2016 election and now russia has responded it says it will shut. down a u.s embassy retreat, outside, moscow... | This next story is a story of retaliation The U.S Senate approved a, package of tough financial sanctions against North Korea Iran and Russia This was one way for Congress to punish Moscow for meddling in the 2016 election And now Russia has responded It says it will shut. down a U.S embassy retreat outside. Moscow and... | this next story is a story of retaliation. the u.s. senate approved a package of tough financial sanctions against north korea, iran and russia. this was one way for congress to punish moscow for meddling in the 2016 election. and now russia has responded. it says it will shut down a u.s. embassy retreat outside moscow... |
Hello there. | hello | Hello | hello there. |
Hi. | hi. | ||
So what else are you learning about this response by Russia to these U.S. sanctions? Are the property seizures a big deal? | so what else are you learning about this response by russia to these u.s sanctions? are the property seizures a big | So what else are you learning about this. response by Russia to these; U.S sanctions? Are. the property seizures a big | so what else are you learning about this response by russia to these u.s. sanctions? are the property seizures a big deal? |
I'd say it's more symbolic, whereas, you know, slimming down the diplomatic mission to such a small number obviously will degrade those diplomats' abilities to work in Russia. The kind of the diplomatic retreat that's being shuttered - it's much more symbolic. It goes back to diplomatic facilities in the United States ... | i'd say it's more symbolic whereas you, know slimming down the diplomatic mission to such a small number obviously will degrade, those diplomats' abilities to work in russia the kind, of the diplomatic retreat that's being shuttered - it's, much more symbolic it goes back to diplomatic facilities, in the united states ... | I'd say it's more symbolic whereas you know slimming down the diplomatic mission to such a small number obviously will degrade those diplomats' abilities to work in Russia The kind of the diplomatic retreat that's being shuttered - it's; much more, symbolic It goes back to. diplomatic facilities in the United States th... | i'd say it's more symbolic, whereas, you know, slimming down the diplomatic mission to such a small number obviously will degrade those diplomats' abilities to work in russia. the kind of the diplomatic retreat that's being shuttered - it's much more symbolic. it goes back to diplomatic facilities in the united states ... |
So what kind of reduction in staff at the U.S. Embassy and consulates does Russia want? | so what kind of reduction in staff at the u.s embassy and consulates does russia | So what kind of reduction, in staff, at the U.S Embassy and consulates does Russia | so what kind of reduction in staff at the u.s. embassy and consulates does russia want? |
The Russia foreign ministry has made it clear that it wants the U.S. diplomatic mission to reduce its staff to 455 people. And who that exactly means is still unclear. That could be anybody from the cleaning lady to the Russians who work there to the diplomats and the ambassador himself. So it's - there's a number of l... | the russia foreign. ministry. has made it clear. that it wants the u.s diplomatic mission to reduce its staff to 455 people and who that exactly means is still. unclear that, could be anybody from the cleaning lady to the russians who work there to the, diplomats; and the ambassador himself so it's - there's a number o... | The. Russia foreign ministry has made it clear that it. wants the U.S diplomatic mission to reduce its staff to 455 people And who that exactly means is still unclear, That could be anybody from the cleaning lady; to the Russians who work there to the diplomats and the ambassador, himself So it's - there's a number of ... | the russia foreign ministry has made it clear that it wants the u.s. diplomatic mission to reduce its staff to 455 people. and who that exactly means is still unclear. that could be anybody from the cleaning lady to the russians who work there to the diplomats and the ambassador himself. so it's - there's a number of l... |
Right. And we don't know exactly what the total number of people employed at these places is. But it's safe to say that that reduction could be hundreds of people. Is that right? | right, and we, don't know. exactly what the total number of, people employed at these places is but it's safe to say that that reduction could be hundreds of, people. is that | Right And we, don't know exactly what the total number of people employed at these places is But it's safe to say that, that reduction could be hundreds of people Is. that | right. and we don't know exactly what the total number of people employed at these places is. but it's safe to say that that reduction could be hundreds of people. is that right? |
Absolutely. We could be talking from anywhere in the low hundreds in some conservative estimates. I think more people right now are looking at a higher number. | absolutely we could; be talking from anywhere in the low hundreds in some conservative estimates i think more people right; now are. looking at. a higher | Absolutely We could be talking from anywhere in the low hundreds in some conservative estimates I think more people right now are looking at a higher | absolutely. we could be talking from anywhere in the low hundreds in some conservative estimates. i think more people right now are looking at a higher number. |
And so what does this response mean about the relationship between the U.S. and Russia, which was already not very good? | and so what does this response mean about the relationship between, the u.s and russia which was already not very | And so what does this response. mean about the relationship between the U.S and. Russia which was already, not very | and so what does this response mean about the relationship between the u.s. and russia, which was already not very good? |
Yeah. I mean, everybody knew that relations between Russia and the United States were not great. They were pretty bad. And they had been that way kind of since 2014. | yeah i mean, everybody knew that relations between russia and the united states were not, great they were, pretty bad and they had been that way kind of since | Yeah I mean everybody knew that relations between Russia and the United States were not great They were pretty bad And they had been that way kind of since | yeah. i mean, everybody knew that relations between russia and the united states were not great. they were pretty bad. and they had been that way kind of since 2014. |
When Russia annexed Crimea. | when russia annexed | When; Russia annexed | when russia annexed crimea. |
Correct. And obviously, tensions grew even more after the 2016 election. But there was a window of opportunity in which they could have gotten better - at least that was Moscow's hope. But with that hope gone in Moscow, you're basically going to see an acceleration of this downward trajectory. | correct. and obviously. tensions grew even more after the 2016 election but there was a window of opportunity in which they could. have, gotten, better - at least that was moscow's hope but. with that; hope gone in moscow you're basically going to see an acceleration of this downward | Correct And obviously tensions grew even more after the 2016 election But there was a window of; opportunity in which they could have gotten better - at least that was Moscow's hope But with that hope gone in Moscow you're basically going to see an acceleration of this downward | correct. and obviously, tensions grew even more after the 2016 election. but there was a window of opportunity in which they could have gotten better - at least that was moscow's hope. but with that hope gone in moscow, you're basically going to see an acceleration of this downward trajectory. |
And I mean, you talked about how the news of the sanctions is being received in Moscow. What else are you hearing there? What else are people's reactions not just to the sanctions, but to Russia's response? | and i mean you talked about how the news of the sanctions is being received in moscow what else are you hearing there? what else are people's reactions not just to the sanctions but to russia's | And I mean you talked about how the. news of the sanctions is being received in Moscow What else are you hearing there? What else, are people's reactions, not just to the sanctions but to Russia's | and i mean, you talked about how the news of the sanctions is being received in moscow. what else are you hearing there? what else are people's reactions not just to the sanctions, but to russia's response? |
If you speak to the Russian officials, they say these measures have been a long time coming. You know, Russia was sanctioned at the end of 2016. If you remember, there was 35 diplomats that were thrown out of the United States. They had a diplomatic retreat that was shuttered to them. And they played this in a very con... | if you speak to the russian officials they say these measures have been a long time coming you know, russia was sanctioned at. the end of 2016. if you remember there. was 35 diplomats that were thrown out of the united. states they had a diplomatic retreat that. was shuttered to. them and they played. this, in a very c... | If you speak to the Russian officials they say these measures have been a long time coming You know Russia was sanctioned at the end of 2016. If you remember there, was 35 diplomats that were thrown out of the United States. They had a diplomatic retreat that was shuttered to them And they played, this in a very concil... | if you speak to the russian officials, they say these measures have been a long time coming. you know, russia was sanctioned at the end of 2016. if you remember, there was 35 diplomats that were thrown out of the united states. they had a diplomatic retreat that was shuttered to them. and they played this in a very con... |
Tom Grove of The Wall Street Journal. We reached him at the Journal's bureau in Moscow. Thank you so much. | tom, grove of the, wall street journal we reached. him at the journal's bureau in moscow thank you so | Tom, Grove of The Wall Street Journal We reached him at the Journal's bureau in Moscow Thank you. so | tom grove of the wall street journal. we reached him at the journal's bureau in moscow. thank you so much. |
Thank you. | thank, | Thank | thank you. |
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President Trump announced new restrictions on U.S. travel to Cuba last month, but cruises were allowed to continue. The cruise industry saw a big opportunity after the Obama administration began allowing Americans to visit Cuba, and the business is growing. NPR's Greg Allen sent this report from Miami. | president trump announced new, restrictions on u.s travel to cuba last month but. cruises were allowed to continue, the cruise industry, saw a big opportunity after the obama administration began allowing americans to visit cuba and the business is growing npr's greg allen sent this report from | President Trump announced new restrictions on U.S travel to Cuba last month but cruises were allowed. to continue The cruise industry saw a big opportunity, after the Obama administration began allowing Americans to visit Cuba and the. business is growing NPR's Greg Allen sent this report. from, | president trump announced new restrictions on u.s. travel to cuba last month, but cruises were allowed to continue. the cruise industry saw a big opportunity after the obama administration began allowing americans to visit cuba, and the business is growing. npr's greg allen sent this report from miami. |
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Nearly every day at the Port of Miami, cruise ships pull away from the docks, headed to Caribbean destinations, places like the Bahamas, Turks and Caicos and increasingly Cuba. Kim Bird of Dallas was one of those waiting to board a liner to Havana. | nearly every day at the port of miami cruise ships pull, away from the docks headed to caribbean destinations places like the bahamas turks and caicos and increasingly, cuba kim bird. of dallas. was one of those waiting to. board a liner to, | Nearly every day at the. Port of Miami cruise ships pull away from the docks headed to Caribbean destinations places like the Bahamas Turks and Caicos and increasingly Cuba Kim Bird of Dallas was; one of those waiting to board; a liner to | nearly every day at the port of miami, cruise ships pull away from the docks, headed to caribbean destinations, places like the bahamas, turks and caicos and increasingly cuba. kim bird of dallas was one of those waiting to board a liner to havana. |
Cruised many times. Cuba's a place I've always wanted to just see. | cruised many, times cuba's a place i've always wanted, to just | Cruised many times Cuba's a; place I've always wanted to just | cruised many times. cuba's a place i've always wanted to just see. |
Bird was with her friend Alyssa Bain, a travel agent from Miami. Bain is booking a lot of trips to Cuba for clients, and she wanted to check it out for herself. When she heard last month President Trump was getting ready to announce a new Cuba policy, she was concerned. | bird was with her friend alyssa bain a travel agent, from miami bain is booking. a lot; of trips to cuba for. clients and she wanted to check it out, for herself. when she heard last month president trump, was getting ready to announce a new cuba policy she was | Bird was with her friend Alyssa Bain a travel agent from Miami Bain is booking a lot; of trips to Cuba for clients and she wanted to check it out for herself When she, heard last month President Trump was getting ready to announce. a new Cuba policy she was | bird was with her friend alyssa bain, a travel agent from miami. bain is booking a lot of trips to cuba for clients, and she wanted to check it out for herself. when she heard last month president trump was getting ready to announce a new cuba policy, she was concerned. |
At first but now no - as far as travel goes, cruises - definitely no change at all. | at first. but now no - as far as travel goes cruises - definitely no change at | At first but now no - as far; as. travel goes cruises, - definitely no change at | at first but now no - as far as travel goes, cruises - definitely no change at all. |
What will change is that it largely ends individual travel. Everyone except Cuban-Americans visiting family now can only go with groups on humanitarian, cultural or educational trips. That's a policy that leaves cruise ships in the clear. Cruisers are advised they need to fill out an affidavit and take part in an educa... | what will change is that it largely ends individual travel everyone except cuban-americans visiting family now can only go with groups on humanitarian cultural or educational trips that's a policy that leaves cruise ships in the clear cruisers are advised they. need to fill out an affidavit and take part in an educatio... | What will change, is that it largely ends individual travel Everyone except Cuban-Americans visiting family now can only go with groups on humanitarian, cultural or educational trips, That's a policy that leaves cruise ships in the clear Cruisers are advised they need to fill out an affidavit and take part in an educat... | what will change is that it largely ends individual travel. everyone except cuban-americans visiting family now can only go with groups on humanitarian, cultural or educational trips. that's a policy that leaves cruise ships in the clear. cruisers are advised they need to fill out an affidavit and take part in an educa... |
Well, Jackson Diehl, thanks a lot for talking with us. | well jackson diehl thanks a lot for talking with | Well Jackson. Diehl thanks a. lot for talking with | well, jackson diehl, thanks a lot for talking with us. |
But that right to face your accuser guaranteed in the Sixth Amendment to the Constitution wasn't written to apply to impeachment, says David Dorsen, a former assistant chief counsel on the Senate Watergate Committee. | but that right to face your accuser guaranteed in the sixth amendment to the constitution wasn't written, to apply to impeachment. says david dorsen a former assistant chief counsel on the, senate watergate | But that right to face your accuser guaranteed in the Sixth Amendment to. the Constitution wasn't written to apply to impeachment says David Dorsen a former assistant chief counsel on the Senate Watergate | but that right to face your accuser guaranteed in the sixth amendment to the constitution wasn't written to apply to impeachment, says david dorsen, a former assistant chief counsel on the senate watergate committee. |
This is not a criminal proceeding. It's a impeachment proceeding, and the rules of evidence don't apply. | this is not a criminal proceeding it's a impeachment proceeding and the rules of evidence don't | This is not a criminal proceeding. It's. a impeachment proceeding and the rules of evidence. don't | this is not a criminal proceeding. it's a impeachment proceeding, and the rules of evidence don't apply. |
Dorsen says this impeachment inquiry, announced by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, is still in the early stages. | dorsen says this impeachment inquiry announced by house speaker. nancy pelosi is still. in the early | Dorsen says this impeachment inquiry announced; by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is still in the early, | dorsen says this impeachment inquiry, announced by house speaker nancy pelosi, is still in the early stages. |
Documents can be introduced, and otherwise, matters can be presented that do not strictly conform to the rules of evidence. | documents can be introduced and otherwise matters, can be presented that do not strictly conform to the rules of | Documents can; be. introduced and otherwise matters can; be presented that do, not strictly conform to the rules of. | documents can be introduced, and otherwise, matters can be presented that do not strictly conform to the rules of evidence. |
Yale Law professor and former Obama administration lawyer Harold Koh says the purpose of the Sixth Amendment is pretty straightforward. | yale law professor and former obama administration lawyer harold koh says the, purpose of the. sixth amendment is pretty | Yale Law professor and former Obama administration lawyer Harold Koh; says the purpose of the Sixth Amendment is pretty | yale law professor and former obama administration lawyer harold koh says the purpose of the sixth amendment is pretty straightforward. |
It's designed to make sure that before someone goes to prison, that they get a chance to confront the person who has charged them with the crime. | it's designed to make sure that before someone goes to prison that they get a chance to confront the person who has charged them with the | It's designed to make sure that before someone goes, to prison that they. get a chance to confront the person who has charged them with the | it's designed to make sure that before someone goes to prison, that they get a chance to confront the person who has charged them with the crime. |
And Koh says this ultimately isn't about the whistleblower, whoever they may be. It's about the documents and potential wrongdoing by the president. | and koh says this ultimately isn't, about the whistleblower whoever, they may be it's about the documents and potential wrongdoing by the | And Koh says this ultimately isn't about the whistleblower. whoever they may be It's about the documents and potential wrongdoing by the | and koh says this ultimately isn't about the whistleblower, whoever they may be. it's about the documents and potential wrongdoing by the president. |
This is a complete canard. The whole point of having whistleblower complaints is that whistleblowers point to problems, and the problems can then be revealed by documents. And then the person who is being charged has to demonstrate that the whistleblower is telling falsehoods through the documents. | this is a complete canard the whole point, of having whistleblower complaints is that whistleblowers point to problems and the problems can then be revealed by documents and then the person who. is being charged has; to demonstrate that the whistleblower is telling falsehoods through the | This is a complete canard The whole point of having whistleblower complaints is that; whistleblowers point to problems and the problems, can then be, revealed by documents And then the person who. is being charged, has to demonstrate that, the whistleblower is telling falsehoods through the | this is a complete canard. the whole point of having whistleblower complaints is that whistleblowers point to problems, and the problems can then be revealed by documents. and then the person who is being charged has to demonstrate that the whistleblower is telling falsehoods through the documents. |
For now, Trump should worry less about the whistleblower and more about the statements coming from his own legal team, says Larry Gibson, a law professor at the University of Maryland. | for now. trump. should worry. less, about. the whistleblower and. more about the statements coming from. his own legal team says larry gibson a law professor at the university of. | For now Trump should, worry less about the whistleblower and more about the statements coming from his own legal team says Larry Gibson a law professor at the, University of | for now, trump should worry less about the whistleblower and more about the statements coming from his own legal team, says larry gibson, a law professor at the university of maryland. |
Well, you don't often have the person accused producing the smoking gun. | well you don't often have the person accused producing the smoking | Well you don't often have the person accused producing the smoking | well, you don't often have the person accused producing the smoking gun. |
Gibson is referring in part to statements by Rudy Giuliani, the president's lawyer. Giuliani told Fox News that he was asked by the administration to speak to Ukrainian leaders about investigating the son of Trump's political rival, former Vice President Joe Biden. | gibson is referring. in part to statements by rudy giuliani the president's lawyer giuliani told fox news that he was asked, by the administration to speak to ukrainian leaders about investigating the son of trump's political rival former vice president joe | Gibson is referring in part to statements by Rudy Giuliani the. president's lawyer Giuliani told Fox News that he was asked by the administration to speak to Ukrainian leaders about, investigating the son; of Trump's political rival former Vice President Joe | gibson is referring in part to statements by rudy giuliani, the president's lawyer. giuliani told fox news that he was asked by the administration to speak to ukrainian leaders about investigating the son of trump's political rival, former vice president joe biden. |
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You know who I did it at the request of? The State Department. I never talked to a Ukrainian official until the State Department called me and asked me to show it. | you know who i did it at the request of? the state; department i never talked to a ukrainian official until the state department called me, and asked me to, show | You know who I did it; at the request of? The State Department I never talked to, a Ukrainian official. until the State Department called me. and asked me to show | you know who i did it at the request of? the state department. i never talked to a ukrainian official until the state department called me and asked me to show it. |
The White House itself released a summary of President Trump's call with the Ukrainian leader, which Professor Gibson says likely will become key evidence in any impeachment process. He says this is all extremely unusual. | the white house itself released a summary of president trump's. call with the ukrainian leader which professor gibson says likely will. become. key evidence in any impeachment process he says this. is all extremely | The White House itself, released a summary of President Trump's call with the Ukrainian leader which Professor Gibson says likely will become key evidence in any impeachment process He says this is all extremely | the white house itself released a summary of president trump's call with the ukrainian leader, which professor gibson says likely will become key evidence in any impeachment process. he says this is all extremely unusual. |
Well, I've taught law for 47 years. I've (unintelligible) what many prosecutors and many defense attorneys. It is rare that you start the case with this kind of evidence against an accused produced and handed to you by the person accused. I mean, that just doesn't happen. | well i've taught law for 47 years i've (unintelligible) what many prosecutors and, many defense attorneys it is rare that you start the case with this, kind of evidence against an accused produced and, handed to you by the person. accused i mean that, just doesn't | Well I've taught. law for 47 years I've (unintelligible) what many prosecutors. and. many defense attorneys It is rare that you start the case with this kind of evidence against an accused produced and. handed to you by the person accused I mean that, just doesn't | well, i've taught law for 47 years. i've (unintelligible) what many prosecutors and many defense attorneys. it is rare that you start the case with this kind of evidence against an accused produced and handed to you by the person accused. i mean, that just doesn't happen. |
If the impeachment inquiry leads to a trial in the Senate, Gibson says President Trump and his lawyers will be able to respond to all the evidence presented against him. Sarah McCammon, NPR News, Washington. | if the impeachment inquiry leads to a trial in the senate gibson says president, trump and his lawyers will be able to, respond to all the evidence presented against him sarah mccammon npr. news | If. the impeachment inquiry leads to a trial; in the Senate Gibson says, President Trump and his lawyers will be able to respond to all the evidence presented against him Sarah McCammon NPR News | if the impeachment inquiry leads to a trial in the senate, gibson says president trump and his lawyers will be able to respond to all the evidence presented against him. sarah mccammon, npr news, washington. |
Just a couple weeks ago, it seemed the United States was close to a peace deal with Afghanistan. But now both the U.S. and the Taliban have ramped up violence after talks between those two parties fell apart. NPR's Tom Bowman has a look back at the war which started 18 years ago. | just, a couple. weeks ago it seemed the united states was close to a peace deal with afghanistan, but now both the u.s and the taliban have ramped up, violence after talks between those two parties fell apart npr's tom bowman has a look back at the war which started 18 years | Just a couple weeks. ago it seemed the United States; was close to a, peace deal with Afghanistan But now both the, U.S and the Taliban have ramped up violence after talks between those two parties fell apart, NPR's Tom Bowman has a look back at the war which started 18 years | just a couple weeks ago, it seemed the united states was close to a peace deal with afghanistan. but now both the u.s. and the taliban have ramped up violence after talks between those two parties fell apart. npr's tom bowman has a look back at the war which started 18 years ago. |
Shortly after the September 11 attacks, President George Bush stood on a pile of rubble in New York that was once the World Trade Center and vowed revenge. | shortly after the september 11 attacks president; george bush stood on a. pile of rubble in new york that was once the world trade center and vowed | Shortly after the September 11 attacks President George Bush, stood on a pile of rubble in New York that was once the World Trade Center and vowed, | shortly after the september 11 attacks, president george bush stood on a pile of rubble in new york that was once the world trade center and vowed revenge. |
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I can hear you. The rest of the world hears you. And the people... | i can hear, you the rest of the world hears you and the | I can hear you The. rest of. the world hears you And the | i can hear you. the rest of the world hears you. and the people... |
(CHEERING) | (cheering) | ||
...And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon. | ...and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of. us | ...And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of, us | ...and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon. |
Defeating the Taliban didn't take all that long - a little more than two months. American leaders were feeling great about how things were going. Meanwhile, Afghan officials considered accepting a surrender deal from Taliban leaders. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld quickly knocked that down. He called them terrorists... | defeating the taliban didn't take all that long - a little more than two months american leaders were feeling great about how things were going meanwhile afghan officials considered accepting a surrender deal from taliban leaders defense secretary donald rumsfeld quickly knocked that down he called them terrorists just... | Defeating the Taliban didn't take all that long - a little more than. two months American leaders were feeling great about; how things were going Meanwhile Afghan officials, considered accepting a. surrender deal from Taliban leaders Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld quickly knocked that down, He called them terrorists... | defeating the taliban didn't take all that long - a little more than two months. american leaders were feeling great about how things were going. meanwhile, afghan officials considered accepting a surrender deal from taliban leaders. defense secretary donald rumsfeld quickly knocked that down. he called them terrorists... |
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He has been the principal person who has been harboring the al-Qaida network in that country. He does not deserve the Medal of Freedom. | he has been the principal person who has been harboring the. al-qaida network in that country he does not deserve the. medal of, | He has been the principal person who has been harboring the al-Qaida network in. that country He does not deserve the; Medal of | he has been the principal person who has been harboring the al-qaida network in that country. he does not deserve the medal of freedom. |
Eighteen years later, the American stance seemed to come full circle. The U.S. held nine rounds of talks with Taliban leaders, some of whom spent time at the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay. Retired Lieutenant General Dave Barno commanded U.S. forces in those early years. He talks about a successful Afghan election in 20... | eighteen years later the american stance seemed, to come full circle the u.s held nine. rounds of talks with, taliban leaders some of whom spent time at the u.s prison at guantanamo bay retired lieutenant general; dave barno commanded u.s forces in those early years he. talks, about a successful afghan election in 2004... | Eighteen years later the American stance seemed to, come full circle. The U.S, held nine rounds of talks with Taliban leaders some. of whom; spent time at the U.S prison at; Guantanamo Bay Retired Lieutenant General Dave Barno commanded U.S forces in those early years He talks about a successful Afghan election in. 200... | eighteen years later, the american stance seemed to come full circle. the u.s. held nine rounds of talks with taliban leaders, some of whom spent time at the u.s. prison at guantanamo bay. retired lieutenant general dave barno commanded u.s. forces in those early years. he talks about a successful afghan election in 20... |
We sensed a great deal of interest on the Taliban side to come in and talk, find ways to, you know, perhaps be part of this new government. The people of Afghanistan made a very clear choice on what kind of a government they wanted to have. And the Taliban on the outside of that. | we sensed a great deal of interest on the taliban side to. come in and talk find ways to you know perhaps be part of this new government the people of afghanistan made a, very clear choice on what kind of a government they wanted to have and the taliban on the outside of | We sensed a great deal of interest on the Taliban, side to, come in and talk find ways, to you know perhaps be part of this new government, The people of Afghanistan made a very clear choice on what kind of a government they wanted to have, And the Taliban on the outside of | we sensed a great deal of interest on the taliban side to come in and talk, find ways to, you know, perhaps be part of this new government. the people of afghanistan made a very clear choice on what kind of a government they wanted to have. and the taliban on the outside of that. |
For years, Rumsfeld and others continue to dismiss even the idea of any talks with the Taliban. | for years rumsfeld and others continue to dismiss even the idea of any talks with the | For years Rumsfeld and others continue to dismiss even the idea of, any talks with the | for years, rumsfeld and others continue to dismiss even the idea of any talks with the taliban. |
And I think we essentially missed an opportunity, during that era, to try and do what's happening right now, but with a much stronger position politically and militarily than we have today. | and i think we essentially missed an opportunity during that, era to try and do what's happening right. now but with a much stronger position politically. and militarily than we have | And I think we essentially missed an opportunity during that era to try and do what's happening right now but with a much stronger position politically and militarily, than we have | and i think we essentially missed an opportunity, during that era, to try and do what's happening right now, but with a much stronger position politically and militarily than we have today. |
So the fight went on. President Bush promised the U.S. would continue to hunt down the Taliban and begin a massive project to rebuild Afghanistan. | so the fight went; on president bush promised the u.s would continue to hunt down the taliban and begin a massive project, to rebuild | So the fight went on President Bush promised the U.S would continue, to hunt down the Taliban and begin a massive project to rebuild | so the fight went on. president bush promised the u.s. would continue to hunt down the taliban and begin a massive project to rebuild afghanistan. |
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Peace will be achieved by helping Afghanistan develop its own stable government. | peace will be achieved by helping afghanistan develop its own stable | Peace will be achieved by helping Afghanistan develop its own stable | peace will be achieved by helping afghanistan develop its own stable government. |
He compared the rebuilding effort to the Marshall Plan that helped Europe rise from the ashes of World War II. | he compared the rebuilding effort to the marshall plan that helped europe; rise from the ashes of world war | He compared the rebuilding effort to the Marshall Plan that helped Europe, rise from the ashes of World War | he compared the rebuilding effort to the marshall plan that helped europe rise from the ashes of world war ii. |
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Peace will be achieved by helping Afghanistan train and develop its own national army and peace will be achieved through an education system for boys and girls which works. | peace will be achieved by, helping afghanistan train and develop its own national army and peace will be achieved through an education system for boys and girls which | Peace will be achieved by helping Afghanistan train and. develop its own national army and peace will be achieved through an, education system, for boys and. girls which | peace will be achieved by helping afghanistan train and develop its own national army and peace will be achieved through an education system for boys and girls which works. |
But the U.S. largely failed in that rebuilding effort, says Thomas Barfield, a Boston University professor with long experience in Afghanistan. | but the u.s largely failed in that rebuilding effort says. thomas barfield a boston university professor. with long experience in | But the U.S largely failed in that rebuilding, effort, says Thomas Barfield a Boston University professor with long experience in | but the u.s. largely failed in that rebuilding effort, says thomas barfield, a boston university professor with long experience in afghanistan. |
Nitwit works, also dimwit - either one. How about a person or thing holding everything together? | nitwit works also dimwit - either one how about a. person. or thing holding, everything | Nitwit works also dimwit - either one How about, a person or thing holding. everything | nitwit works, also dimwit - either one. how about a person or thing holding everything together? |
Linchpin. | linchpin. | ||
Well, you try to remember. You set there and you work on it and you - and if it's not good enough to remember until you get to a pencil, it's usually not very good. | well you try to remember you set there and you work on it; and you - and if it's not good enough to remember until you, get to a pencil it's usually not very, | Well you, try. to remember You set there and you work on it and you - and. if it's not good enough to remember until you get to a pencil it's usually. not very | well, you try to remember. you set there and you work on it and you - and if it's not good enough to remember until you get to a pencil, it's usually not very good. |
So you've just got to hang on to it. | so you've just got to hang on to | So you've just got to hang on to | so you've just got to hang on to it. |
Yeah, you hang on to it. That's - I'm talking about the song, of course. | yeah you hang on to it that's - i'm talking about the song of | Yeah you hang on to. it That's - I'm talking about the song of | yeah, you hang on to it. that's - i'm talking about the song, of course. |
Right. | right. | ||
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I was. I don't know about you. | i was i don't, know about | I was I don't. know about | i was. i don't know about you. |
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(Singing) Till he gives me my call, the hardest of all will be learning to live with myself. | (singing) till he gives me my call the hardest of all will be learning to live with | (Singing) Till he gives. me my call the hardest of all will be learning to, live with | (singing) till he gives me my call, the hardest of all will be learning to live with myself. |
I've read that you have said about your songwriting that a lot of times, the songs are coming to you almost like from another place entirely. That's it's not really a conscious thing, it sounds like. | i've read that you have said about your songwriting that a lot of times the songs are coming to you almost like from another place entirely that's. it's, not really. a conscious thing it sounds | I've read that you have. said about your songwriting that a lot of times; the songs are coming to you almost like from another place entirely That's it's not really; a conscious thing it sounds; | i've read that you have said about your songwriting that a lot of times, the songs are coming to you almost like from another place entirely. that's it's not really a conscious thing, it sounds like. |
Yeah, I write all the time. I say all the time. I'm always aware in trying to pick up on something - should something come through, and once in a while, it does and it usually in a most inopportune time like in the bathtub or on the way to the stage or, I remember one song I wrote in England. And there was four people ... | yeah i write, all the time. i say all the. time i'm always aware in trying to pick up on something - should something come through and once, in a while. it does and it. usually; in a most inopportune time like in the bathtub or on the way to the stage or i, remember one song i wrote in. england and there was four, peop... | Yeah I write all the time I say, all the time I'm always aware in trying to pick up on something - should something come through and, once in a while. it does and it usually in a most inopportune time like in the bathtub or on the, way to the stage or I remember one song, I, wrote in England And there was four people w... | yeah, i write all the time. i say all the time. i'm always aware in trying to pick up on something - should something come through, and once in a while, it does and it usually in a most inopportune time like in the bathtub or on the way to the stage or, i remember one song i wrote in england. and there was four people ... |
Does it ever work for you the other way to actually, you know, sit down with a pad and paper and try to really work something through? | does. it ever work. for you. the other way; to actually you know, sit down with a pad and paper and try to really work something | Does. it ever work; for you the other way to actually you know sit down with a pad and paper and try to really work something | does it ever work for you the other way to actually, you know, sit down with a pad and paper and try to really work something through? |
Well, Bob Wells was one of my idols and he used the phrase, he said, you know, I never did sweat out a song. I'm the same way. I don't - I've tried to do that and it sounds like that's what it is. It doesn't come out anything other than something you might've squeezed out. The real stuff comes unexpectedly. | well bob wells was one of my idols and he used the phrase he said; you know i never did sweat out a song i'm the same way i don't - i've tried to do, that, and it sounds like, that's what it is, it doesn't come out anything other, than something you might've squeezed out. the real stuff comes | Well Bob Wells was one, of my idols and. he used the phrase he said you know I never did sweat; out a; song I'm the same. way I don't - I've tried, to do that. and it, sounds like that's what it is It doesn't come out anything other than, something you might've squeezed out The real stuff comes | well, bob wells was one of my idols and he used the phrase, he said, you know, i never did sweat out a song. i'm the same way. i don't - i've tried to do that and it sounds like that's what it is. it doesn't come out anything other than something you might've squeezed out. the real stuff comes unexpectedly. |
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(Singing) It used to be Andy and Barney Fife, now it's Howard Stern and the brothel life. Too much crap can drive the world insane. Everybody's singing the jailhouse blues. Don't believe a word of the evening news. Truth that stood for years is down the drain. Trailer... | (singing) it used to be andy and barney fife now it's howard stern and the brothel life too much crap can drive the world insane everybody's singing the jailhouse. blues don't. believe a word of the evening news truth that stood for years is down the drain | (Singing) It used to be Andy and Barney. Fife now it's Howard Stern and the brothel life Too much crap can drive the world insane Everybody's singing the jailhouse blues Don't, believe a. word of the evening. news Truth that stood for years is down the drain | (singing) it used to be andy and barney fife, now it's howard stern and the brothel life. too much crap can drive the world insane. everybody's singing the jailhouse blues. don't believe a word of the evening news. truth that stood for years is down the drain. trailer... |
The song "What Happened?" it's really I guess a lament for how the country is changing. And that's something that seems like it's been on your mind for quite a while, through a number of songs over the years. | the song "what happened?" it's really, i, guess a lament for how the country is changing and that's something that seems like it's been on your mind for quite a while through a number of songs. over the | The song. "What Happened?" it's really, I guess a lament for how the, country is changing And that's something that seems like, it's been on your mind for quite a while. through a number of songs over the | the song "what happened?" it's really i guess a lament for how the country is changing. and that's something that seems like it's been on your mind for quite a while, through a number of songs over the years. |
Well, it should be on everybody's mind. We're, we're losing it. This country, another eight years like we've put up with, there won't be any country. | well it should be; on everybody's mind we're we're, losing it this country another eight years like, we've put up with. there won't be any | Well, it should be on everybody's, mind We're we're losing it This, country another eight years like we've put up with there won't be any | well, it should be on everybody's mind. we're, we're losing it. this country, another eight years like we've put up with, there won't be any country. |
What do you mean? | what do you. | What do you | what do you mean? |
Well, financially, we're broke. Nobody has any confidence in the man in charge. You know, we're torturing people; we're not known to be that kind of people. People all over the world look up to us, and we're not setting a very good example. | well financially we're broke nobody has any confidence in the man in charge you know we're torturing people we're not. known to be that kind of people, people all over the world look up to us and we're not setting a very good | Well financially we're broke Nobody has any confidence in the man in, charge You know, we're torturing people we're not known to be. that kind of people People all over the world look up to us and we're not setting a very good | well, financially, we're broke. nobody has any confidence in the man in charge. you know, we're torturing people; we're not known to be that kind of people. people all over the world look up to us, and we're not setting a very good example. |
Do you think you've gotten more political as you've gotten older? | do you think you've gotten more political as you've gotten | Do you think you've gotten more, political as you've gotten, | do you think you've gotten more political as you've gotten older? |
Yeah. When I was younger, I had enough sense to keep my mouth shut. But it's hard to do. And I think that some people have to speak out. | yeah when i was younger i had enough sense to keep my. mouth shut but it's hard to do and i think that some people have to speak | Yeah When, I was younger I had enough sense to keep my mouth. shut But. it's hard to do And, I think that some people have to speak. | yeah. when i was younger, i had enough sense to keep my mouth shut. but it's hard to do. and i think that some people have to speak out. |
You said you used to keep your mouth shut, but I think a lot of people would remember songs like "Okie from Muskogee" and say, he wasn't keeping his mouth shut then, it might have been a slightly different mouth. But he was singing exactly what was on his mind back then too. | you said you used to keep your mouth shut but i think, a lot of people would remember songs like "okie from muskogee" and say he wasn't, keeping his mouth shut then it might; have been a slightly different mouth but he was singing exactly, what was, on his mind back then | You said you used to keep your mouth shut but I think a, lot of people would remember songs like, "Okie from Muskogee" and say he wasn't keeping his mouth shut then it might have been a slightly different mouth But he was singing exactly what was on his mind back then | you said you used to keep your mouth shut, but i think a lot of people would remember songs like "okie from muskogee" and say, he wasn't keeping his mouth shut then, it might have been a slightly different mouth. but he was singing exactly what was on his mind back then too. |
Well, you're right. You're right. I haven't ever been able to hold my feelings back and the proof of it's in all the songs. | well you're right you're right, i haven't ever, been able to hold my feelings back and the proof of it's in all the, | Well you're right You're right I haven't ever been able to hold my feelings back and the proof of it's in all the | well, you're right. you're right. i haven't ever been able to hold my feelings back and the proof of it's in all the songs. |
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