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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/24/hackaday-links-october-24-2010/
Hackaday Links: October 24, 2010
Mike Szczys
[ "Hackaday links" ]
[ "gears", "internet explorer", "lexus", "popcorn" ]
Square Gears This video demonstrates square gears and other oddly shaped cogs. We can’t think of a use but it’s interesting none-the-less. [via Tinkernology ] Cooking with Lasers It’s late and you’ve been at the workbench for quite some time. But why go to the kitchen for a snack? Grab a couple of 1 watt lasers, hot glue a kernel of corn to a DC motor, and you’ll have popcorn in no time . Calling this a simulator just doesn’t do it justice Okay, so this link is a Lexus commercial . But it’s worth watching to see the footage of this driving simulator. Inside that pod is an actual automobile surrounded by a 360 degree screen. The room has a full x and y axis to move the pod (and the car) as you drive through the simulated world. It’s like someone gave a bunch of geeks an unlimited budget and say “go nuts”. [Thanks Luke] What takes the most time in your hacking adventures? Everyone whose spent some time in web design has run across the peculiar rendering bugs and workarounds associated with Internet Explorer. Internet Explorer Stole My Life aims to tabulate the collective time wasted from the lives of developers. We think it’s hilarious because spending the same amount of time meeting W3C standards and this problem would go away. But [Caleb] mentioned something interesting when he saw this site: What part of your hacking adventures wastes the most time? We’d love to hear about it in the comments.
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[ { "comment_id": "202151", "author": "freakshow29", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T19:09:06", "content": "so…whats the point to a driving simulator? i see the point to flight simulators because very few people can afford to purchase a plane. i feel like most people have been in a car before, and people with a drivers license have driven before…i just dont understand it…its not like their car is so special that it requires their own simulator, its a cheap mercedes.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202156", "author": "Brock_Lee", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T19:20:34", "content": "“What part of your hacking adventures wastes the most time?”Searching for dropped components in the carpet with a flashlight.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202157", "author": "Geon", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T19:21:42", "content": "“spending the same amount of time meeting W3C standards and this problem would go away.”You know *nothing* about web development.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202161", "author": "Jordan", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T19:25:33", "content": "The point of the simulator, as far as I know, is to work on the cars auto response system, if that is the correct term for it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202163", "author": "landogimps", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T19:29:14", "content": "someone clearly didn’t watch the video.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202164", "author": "freakshow29", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T19:34:44", "content": "fair enough, i stopped halfway through thinking it was mostly bs. i still think it was a waste of capital… invest in self driving vehicles", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202167", "author": "MauiMaker", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T19:46:32", "content": "Driving sims are great for exploring human-vehicle interface design and other human factors (eg. effect of cell phone/alcohol use). USA has the National Driving Simulator (NADShttp://www.nads-sc.uiowa.edu/) great acronym.As for biggest time wastes:* hunting answers in useless forums* dependency chains in FOSS sw projects, esp those that include different versions of dependent packages in various dependency branches.* wiring issues (bad connections/connectors, broken/bad cables, mis-wired lines)* ground faults (probably a wiring issue subset)* surfing HAD, BB, Make, etc instead of hacking", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "202508", "author": "Ivan", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T13:26:09", "content": "http://www.nads-sc.uiowa.edu/Why they do this?", "parent_id": "202167", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "202172", "author": "toodlestech", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T20:05:07", "content": "“We think it’s hilarious because spending the same amount of time meeting W3C standards and this problem would go away.”I hope you’re referring to IE not being compliant. Seeing as most people cite IE6 as the problem seeing that W3C compliant code would be rendered incorrectly and some code needed to be written specifically with IE only tags to get it to render correctly. Although lately obviously less people use IE6 so it’s not as big of a problem. You’d be surprised at how many people were still using IE6 just 2 years ago.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "202176", "author": "Caleb Kraft", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T20:23:55", "content": "@toodlestech,I think that’s what he meant. Mike doesn’t do any web dev, so he was probably trying to make sense of what I had said.", "parent_id": "202172", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "202189", "author": "ReKlipz", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T21:14:52", "content": "I think the line about “meeting W3C standards” is about IE meeting the W3C standards, not the web developers. In a sense, the other FOSS browsers are just this; Microsoft doesn’t care that their browser isn’t standards compliant, and there’s no way in hell they would pay the “community” to fix it for them, or likely let them do it for free either.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202200", "author": "Austin", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T22:10:18", "content": "Most wasted time:Reading Datasheets/Silicon Erratas for PIC’s. Especially when trying to find the cheapest PIC that has no problems with whatever modules are required for the projectChasing cold solder joints.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202207", "author": "Hirudinea", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T22:45:36", "content": "I’m still waiting for my friggin’ laser popcorn!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202209", "author": "bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T22:51:33", "content": "I watched the Lexus video and still don’t get it.You can probably get 90% of the benefits with a $300 steering wheel, $2,000 PC, and 6x($1,000) LCD screens.But you don’t get bragging rights nor labeled more money than brains.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202216", "author": "blueb", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T23:11:38", "content": "I work for a company that makes flight simulators (certified up to level-d which means a pilot can train on it with 1 to 1 time). Simulators are REALLY EXPENSIVE. To make a 1-off like the driving simulator in that commercial would be redonculous. The commercial is CG and fake. Additonally 6-degree of freedom motion jacks provide a very realistic movement when combined with wrap-around screens. There is no need for a simulator that translates like that.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202233", "author": "stib", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T00:27:20", "content": "Those weird shaped cogs could be very useful for applications where a steady rotation needed to be converted into a changing one. For example, the elipsoid cogs would (according to my mental back of the envelope calculations) produce output rotation with a sinusoidal rotational velocity, the spiral ones would produce a sawtooth output velocity and the fish ones a square wave. Now can you think of some uses?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202263", "author": "pRoFlT", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T00:44:31", "content": "Reading HAD or Engadget is probably my biggist waste of time. Or waiting up for WOOT to switch items at night.As for hacking, probably troubleshooting wiring errors. Grounds…always check your grounds!Leaving a reply to HAD, waste of time. I mean how many people post bad things about arduino yet you still post the satupid blinky led projects. :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202270", "author": "scatterbrained", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T01:04:11", "content": "connectors and cabling.They’re backwards, they’re too tall, too short, too wide, wrong pitch, they didn’t solder, they fail over time, male vs. female, pin 1 is not pin 1, DTE vs. DCE. Not enough amps, can’t get them, no longer available, too expensive, too fragile, arcing, poor crimps, poor pressfit, cable strain.I always think there is no new way to screw them up, but I always manage…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202274", "author": "Kyros", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T01:15:14", "content": "I hope that comment about W3C standards was supposed to come across how ReKlipz says it was, otherwise someone really has never made a website, in any way, shape or form ever – or has never read the W3C standards.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202288", "author": "Sean", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T01:58:11", "content": "My personal favorite waste of time is how the stray capacitances in breadboards fool me into thinking my opamp is working fine (or not working fine). Then I build it on protoboard… suddenly my oscillators amplify and my amplifiers oscillate (or it mysteriously works). I’ve learned to use IC sockets so I can switch opamps if necessary, and just leave the cheapest one that works in there.I also love it when I inadvertently damage pins configured as output on an AVR and spend hours debugging assembly code for no reason. Every solution I’ve thought of generally costs more than replacing the MCU.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202289", "author": "yuppicide", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T02:02:44", "content": "I loved that Lexus commercial and instantly wished I could own that simulator.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202304", "author": "sexiewasd", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T02:42:27", "content": "My biggest waste of time this weekend has been debugging a LM386N audio amp circuit, when the problem was with my code :( But you can bet your socks that my pumpkin will be sweet now that it’s working.Lexus tends to waste a lot of time and money on things that are not needed, and IE just wastes time and money because it likes to (I’m not adding any more asterisks to my CSS, ever!).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202312", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T03:01:02", "content": "I know all car commercials are chuckfull of CGI, and I certainly hope this is one of those cases too because it’s completely pointless to build a simulator when you can just go outside and test a car.Especially now that the governments has to bail them all out it would be an outrage and insult.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202314", "author": "Calob Humble", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T03:05:48", "content": "He obviously means that IE inst W3C Standard, which is a give sense (i hope) most web designers get the hang of the standards after a bit (or if in a pinch, w3schools). I still pop my source in a checker every once in a while, but im never usually to bad at staying w3c compliant ;)As for time wasters:~Never having the right tools for that one freaking random torx screw~Searching google to look for references to specific boards or codes~scrolling through forum after forum looking for an answer to a simple question that most of the time i usually know anyway.Biggest time water: HAD. But i love it :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202319", "author": "outleradam", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T03:11:35", "content": "mythicalLibrarian/XBMC has stolen most of my time for the last few months.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202324", "author": "notmyfault2000", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T03:19:31", "content": "@Whatnot: Yes, I’d like to see you risk getting plowed into by a real fully-loaded semi just to see if your avoidance system has a bug in it. I’ll stick to the simulator where I can still feel the turns and acceleration but not the 60-mph impact.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202336", "author": "Sitwon", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T03:51:59", "content": "@Whatnot: Just to be sure we’re pointing the blame at the right people, was Lexus one of the companies that was bailed out?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202370", "author": "Queeg", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T04:57:03", "content": "That’s actually a pretty impressive simulator.Aircraft simulators (whose hydraulic actuators are fixed to the floor) mimic acceleration and deceleration (think takeoff and landing) by tilting the simulator forward or aft while the visual stays constant relative to the pilot. The combination fools the body into thinking that you’re decelerating when actually you’re just tipping forward.I would have expected that they would have simulated cornering g’s the same way – tilt the sim sideways, but keep the visual level relative to the driver.Translating the entire simulator around the way they do instead is something new, and it can’t be cheap. I’m guessing you could fit 16 or so aircraft simulator bays in the same space they’ve dedicated to one simulator. of course, they don’t have train 12000 drivers per year, so they can get away with one big, expensive sim.<p.Sims are are a large part of my job. Trust me, that's an impressive sim.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202386", "author": "Mr.Grimm", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T05:19:49", "content": "My biggest hacking waste if time is searching for the tools i put down right in front of me :/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202403", "author": "Laser Popcorn!", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T06:33:41", "content": "A very thank you to Mike Szczys and Hackaday.com for the write up and link! The workbench snack verbage gave me a big laugh!-Scott (WorldScott)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202409", "author": "oranac", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T06:45:43", "content": "@Queeg: I was wondering about this too, and the only reason I could come up with is that cars in general can change direction much quicker than aircraft can, so there needs to be a way of simulating the shift in momentum without introducing centripetal force about the drivers cog.Then again there’s redbull aircraft racing, no idea how they’d go about building a sim for that, though I’d love to see someone try.The think that takes me the longest: procrastination. :(", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202412", "author": "P", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T07:14:53", "content": "“My biggest hacking waste if time is searching for the tools i put down right in front of me :/”THIS", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202430", "author": "Punkguyta", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T07:43:55", "content": "@ Mr.GrimmTotally there with you on that one! How many times have I set a tool down as I’m sitting on the floor, just to realize after 10 minutes of frantically searching for it that it’s really on my bed, or on my desk, or underneath me somehow :-S", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202480", "author": "Neckbeard", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T11:32:04", "content": "My biggest waste has to be fault find circuits… Seriously I *ucking hate that *hit. I also have wasted a more time than I am willing to admit with perl but its all worth it in the end.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202483", "author": "Jon King", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T11:37:01", "content": "To all those that think the driving sim is lame, etc..Are you guys dense or something? Sure, it might take some creativity to think of some uses for this thing. But come on: in-traffic drunk driving research, driving response timing vs. real world, effects of many distractions, plugging suspension data in for real testing without a prototype, and much more that smarter folks than i can think up.Let’s not forget that its one slick piece of tech. Its obvious that some really creative people put their heart and soul into this project. I tend to respect companies that do a little bit more than cut as many corners as possible to squeeze an extra $2 in profit per quarter. Everyone here knows that if they didn’t blow the budget building this, they’d blow it on far less interesting advertising…or hand out bigger exec bonuses :-P", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202491", "author": "blue carbuncle", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T12:46:26", "content": "Learning code instead of soldering a capacitor to make something blink lol.Seriously, my time waster is testing out repairs without putting the whole thing back together (thus having to hold the parts like a multi-armed goddess). Wish we still had prehensile tails.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202492", "author": "dathomar", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T12:50:20", "content": "My biggest waste of time hacking is trying to re-learn how to use eagle so I can cut out a new PCB on the CNC that took me a year to make. Also just thinking about what I need to go through to FIND standard parts in eagles gazillion libraries makes me want to weep blood.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202561", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T14:51:46", "content": "@notmyfault2000 check out mythbusters where they constantly do experiments with cars, and when it’s too dangerous they drive it remotely with some cheap servos.And to me having an actual car to test things seems more reliable and realistic than a simulator that could be predicting things wrong and then in a real car you are the unfortunate sucker who finds that out.I get it with planes for training, but for cars it just doesn’t make sense in a cost vs effectiveness sense.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202562", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T14:53:24", "content": "@sitwon“Lexus is the luxury vehicle division of Japanese automaker Toyota Motor Corporation.”And toyota sought a bailout from japan google tells me.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202567", "author": "THeOReos", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T15:05:14", "content": "I can’t put them in order but some definitive time wasters are:-looking for tools, which i could swear, i put in front of me…-reading through forums to find the answer to a simple problem and then ending up reading total diffrent and for the project not needful articles, which are interessting though-same with wikipedia (:D)-programming needles gadgets (AVR Studio says, that there are still 29% for code left and leaving them empty feels for me like throwing away good food! :D )", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202597", "author": "kristian", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T16:27:26", "content": "an even better use for those gears would be to transform an input with a non-uniform-in-time torque (like all engines/motors) into something with a smoother torque. in fact, i’m kindof surprised if this isn’t in all transmissions… anyone know if it’s ever been used before?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202621", "author": "notmyfault2000", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T17:27:51", "content": "@Whatnot: And we all know how their car stuff turns out perfectly every time and how they can always reuse the cars afterwords, and how the “driver’s” reactions are on par with those of someone actually in the driver’s seat in terms of both speed and action.With the simulator, if you destroy the “car” you just hit the reset button. With a real car you’re out all of the time and cost it took to build the car.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202650", "author": "MauiMaker", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T18:10:24", "content": "@blueb and other sim guys….Not sure about whether Lexus has their own big xy sim, but those are necessary if you want to give the driver good horizontal sim. Simply tilting on a hexapod doesnt give the feel of long corner slide… and then you have to have room to take out the motion — hard onset cue, then slowly reduce to 0 and slow return to origin without inducing more simulated motion. Takes a lot of space. And aircraft dont need much horz motion sim so std hex table works ok most of the time. When you need really big vertical sim, they go to NASA andhttp://www.simlabs.arc.nasa.gov/vms/motionb.htmlAgain, the why here is HUMAN FACTORS, which is not what myth busters are doing with remote controlled cars… or directly doing. It is a rush to watch them work.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202651", "author": "dude", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T18:13:02", "content": "wastes of time…shippingworkwaiting on fundingstarting another project while in the middle of another", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202750", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T21:19:10", "content": "@Brock_Lee Yes! even on hard floors, grrr.Ordering parts without regard for backorder status. It’s my own fault, sigh.Surfing the net, reading irrelevant forums to keep me amused…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202813", "author": "HeBD", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T23:23:21", "content": "biggest waste if time:trying to placing an order with TI…reading all the safety comments on HaD…every 4th HaD post… almost…i wonder what type of printer they striped down to get the parts for that lexus car thingy… also does it use an audrino? if not why is this on HaD lol", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202829", "author": "bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-26T00:11:53", "content": "@notmyfault2000:A virtual collision is far safer for sure, but being a virtual collision it can be done strictly on a computer screen. There is no need for a $100M(?) airbag container to go off in your face for you to know the system just failed.@Jon King:I’m not sure any of the things you have mentioned require a $100M(?) force feedback to study.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202885", "author": "notmyfault2000", "timestamp": "2010-10-26T03:01:58", "content": "@bob: What about “The avoidance system works, but gave me whiplash as it avoided the oncoming semi at 60mph, so we might want to increase xyz to smooth out the response?” At least 75% of the reason for the sim’s existence is to evaluate the feel and driver response in a realistic situation, while still being safe for both the driver and the hardware.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202940", "author": "bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-26T05:07:42", "content": "@notmyfault2000:Apparently the cause of whiplash is of non-specific origin (some people may be afflicted by motion that others can tolerate).During normal vehicle maneuver, the average automobile will not generally exceed about +/- 1g acceleration (the tires simply do not have enough traction before losing grip)(1g acceleration will get you from 0-100km/h in about 3-sec for perspective).Most people will not experience whiplash at 1g.If somebody cannot tolerate 1g, leading medical professionals advise against driving motor vehicles altogether.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "203295", "author": "Jon King", "timestamp": "2010-10-26T20:37:29", "content": "@bob:You’re pretty good at this; maybe you should stop being a hacker and do cost analysis for a boring car manufacturer.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "203390", "author": "bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-27T00:23:53", "content": "I kind of have my eyes on the position of Corporate Evangelist. Because I believe it’s one of those jobs where I don’t have to do much work, but still get a corner office (like the guy at Lexus who concocted the idea for this simulator).Actually I’d love it if legitimate purposes for this simulator can be revealed (other than publicity, as legitimate a reason as it is), cuz I gotcha know.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/24/hackvision-is-build-your-own-retro-game/
Hackvision Is Build-your-own Retro Game
Mike Szczys
[ "Arduino Hacks", "Video Hacks" ]
[ "atmega328", "pong", "space invaders", "TVout" ]
https://hackaday.com/wp-…805583.jpg?w=470
If you wanted to try your hand at programming some retro games Hackvision can jump-start the process. It is an Arduino-based game console in a controller format . You get four directional buttons and one function button. It has two RCA jacks for mono audio, and black and white video. We’re happy to find that there’s information about game development that will help you follow along with the Space Invaders and Pong examples. The system uses the Arduino TVout library for video, which is robust and fairly easy to interact with. But once you see the game play in the video after the break it’ll be hard to resist building one of these. Don’t forget, this is Arduino based. If you already have an Arduino that uses an ATmega328 you just need to build the audio, video, and button circuits. [Thanks Franz]
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[ { "comment_id": "202104", "author": "michael", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T17:06:19", "content": "Getting this to work on arduino takes tweeking an h file. If you have 2 resistors and an arduino you can get hackivision running on your arduino.Check out my site for details.http://www.flakelabs.com/index.php/2010/10/hackvision-games-on-arduino/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202105", "author": "Ken", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T17:06:57", "content": "That D-pad looks absolutely terrible to play on…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "1569220", "author": "Somebody", "timestamp": "2014-06-13T20:23:04", "content": "Better than nothing right? I mean couldn’t you just make a d.i.y one?", "parent_id": "202105", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "202109", "author": "Anon", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T17:21:58", "content": "An enclosure wouldn’t be too much, especially for hard-core gamers.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202110", "author": "Adam Wolf", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T17:24:04", "content": "A month ago at World Maker Faire in NYC, we released an open source Arduino shield that uses this same library, and has plugs and circuitry to connect two Wii controllers at the same time.http://wayneandlayne.com/projects/video-game-shield/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202122", "author": "Myles Metzler", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T18:05:53", "content": "MichealIn the version of TVout used by both the hackvision and the video game shield the pinout was changed to keep it online with the most up to date code. I changed the pinout so that higher horizontal resolutions can be supported on a regular arduino with a 328 this is digital pin7. The newest version of the library is available in the source section of the google code page. I will make another zip release when I get TVout to a feature complete state, until then I will just be keeping the repository up to date.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202140", "author": "Joby Taffey", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T18:47:18", "content": "Don’t forget AVGA. Colour RGB/VGA + sound on ATmega168, runs entirely under interrupt leaving the foreground loop for game logic.Sprite based.http://avga.prometheus4.com/index.php?p=6-0", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202142", "author": "RadBrad", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T18:51:51", "content": "Cool project, thanks for posting!RadBrad", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202148", "author": "Harvie.CZ", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T19:02:53", "content": "Can’t they just make arduino sheild for that?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202196", "author": "Tiago", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T21:59:23", "content": "Just search for the TvOut lib for arduino, add a resistor or two and a transistor or two and its working, then you just need some buttons to play.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202202", "author": "Shadyman", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T22:19:50", "content": "Hmm. The “Y” in “PLAY” at 0:02 is upside-down. Hmm.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202205", "author": "Wahacks", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T22:33:51", "content": "@ShadymanWatch the rest of the title screen — it’s just like the arcade version where the alien comes to fix the upside down Y. I remember that!Intro is in the demo videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOUa_jcHIkE", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202206", "author": "me", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T22:36:53", "content": "http://belogic.com/uzebox/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202308", "author": "Chuckt", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T02:53:09", "content": "Cool project. Thank you for posting.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202466", "author": "mowcius", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T09:51:11", "content": "Harvie.CZ, would you want to hold an arduino and shield in your hand to play games on? It’d be pretty terrible!The D-Pad is surprisingly quite nice to use :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202546", "author": "Michael", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T14:10:56", "content": "Oh I’ve still got a few tricks…watch now as I shoot through our own shield!!!Neat project.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "203016", "author": "MoJo", "timestamp": "2010-10-26T08:32:42", "content": "I made a video generator for a project recently. It uses the SPI interface for producing tile based text and simple graphics which allows it to have a good resolution (320×256 at ~17MHz and 384×256 at 20MHz). While the text/graphics are always white it does support a 3 bit RGB background colour. It is a nice trade-off between RAM useage and external hardware (only a few diodes and resistors are needed).I needed it to work with a normal horizontal screen and with a vertical screen (monitor on its side). For that reason I cut the display area down to 30×30 8×8 blocks so everything can rotate perfectly based on just one tile map.The only down side is that the SPI interface takes an extra clock cycle to reset for the next byte, so an 8×8 block becomes an 9×8 block. It needed a bit of creativity with the font but works well enough for a user interface.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "208221", "author": "steve hope", "timestamp": "2010-11-05T20:55:35", "content": "I’m a grad student TA and I recently assigned a variation of this project to my electronics lab students, since a lot of them are intogame designas well as EE. Great success, TY for the tut!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "327072", "author": "gregory oakley-stevenson", "timestamp": "2011-02-08T16:43:11", "content": "good hack i fancy trying itp.s i am from england and i love hackaday", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "416973", "author": "perde", "timestamp": "2011-07-13T11:13:13", "content": "Cool project. For that reason I cut the display area down to 30×30 8×8 blocks so everything can rotate perfectly based on just one tile map.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "3032557", "author": "Jakub", "timestamp": "2016-05-25T10:12:39", "content": "Hello i know this is old, but i’m trying to make a simple console for my son and hackvision is ideal for this. I managed to run tetris but this is the end. It uploaded to arduino only once and it works, but i canot do it again not to mention runing eny other game. I tried to change the *.h and *.cpp to match curent days but no use, something is always missing. Any sugestions? Will try to change bootloader, and run from old IDE, maby it will work.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "3352894", "author": "Erwin Meyvaert", "timestamp": "2017-01-07T14:09:30", "content": "HaiI was able to operate 9 out of 12 gamesBut these games do not workAsteroids, Tetris and arduinoWormCan you help me to still do this workI use Arduino 1.0.5 software and an Arduino UnoKind Regards", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "3352896", "author": "sembot", "timestamp": "2017-01-07T14:11:37", "content": "I was able to operate 9 out of 12 gamesBut these games do not workAsteroids, Tetris and arduinoWormCan you help me to still do this workI use Arduino 1.0.5 software and an Arduino UnoKind Regards", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,351.124035
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/24/lightsaber-color-selector/
Lightsaber Color Selector
Mike Szczys
[ "LED Hacks" ]
[ "18f2221", "color", "lightsaber", "pic", "rgb", "star wars" ]
[George Hadley] developed a nice setup to control the color of a replica Lightsaber . A small PCB houses a PIC 18F2221 and three switching transistors for the colors. A powerful LED resides in the tip of the handle, lighting up the diffuser that makes up the blade. But our favorite part is the control scheme. He’s embedded a small RGB LED in the handle, giving feedback as to which color of light can currently be adjusted (red, green, or blue). One button scrolls through the colors and a slide potentiometer adjusts that them. We wouldn’t go as far as calling this a Halloween prop, we think it’s better suited for serious replica builds . But it would make an amazing addition to the little one’s costume. See it in action after the break. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POjmL48CssU]
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[ { "comment_id": "202103", "author": "Eirinn", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T16:42:34", "content": "Lol, now you got the choice of good and evil at your fingertips.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202123", "author": "bogdan", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T18:06:20", "content": "Not a fan of sabers, but i like the idea of the small rgb led to tell you which color you may adjust.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202143", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T18:53:53", "content": "i dual wield my blue cold cathodes. they are only about a foot long and being tethered to a power supply limits their usefulness as lighsabers", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202158", "author": "Addidis", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T19:22:44", "content": "Ok this is awesome. There is something to be said for “rapid prototyping”. Something to be said for deadbugging , bread boarding, Proto board etc . But nothing really compares to taking it to the true “prototype” level with pcb , smt parts, and a professional looking result.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202179", "author": "Addidis", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T20:39:32", "content": "CTMU – Charge Time Measurement Unit , used for capacitive touch i/o and more.Using the CTMU unit and the chassis of the saber, I would imagine it wouldn’t be too difficult to turn the entire handle into a capacitive touch “on off button”If its in your hand its on, if its not its off. That on off switch has the OCD engineer in me twitching. :P", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202192", "author": "George", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T21:26:35", "content": "@Addidis – Thought about that actually. Looking to implement that in version 2 hopefully, stay tuned!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202323", "author": "24601", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T03:15:19", "content": "“a slide potentiometer adjusts that them.”Um… what is it you’re trying to say?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202457", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T09:02:36", "content": "Yeah that line broke ma noggin too.syntax errorredo from start", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202477", "author": "Marty", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T11:12:21", "content": "It’s obviously an edit that didn’t get completely changed. Most likely from “adjusts that color” to “adjusts them”Cool project. An absolutely awesome idea for v. 2.0 (or maybe 3) would be to switch out the slide pot for a track-pad or the like.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "203171", "author": "Spork", "timestamp": "2010-10-26T17:00:54", "content": "For a more even beam, I have seen people string LED’s together in parallel (literally stacked on top of each other.) I think that would make for a wonderful effect.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "209081", "author": "George", "timestamp": "2010-11-07T19:56:58", "content": "@Spork: I had tried that at first. Tragically, however, the leds were not manufactured with tight enough tolerances (or something) and the string looked more like christmas lights than a single, coherent color.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,350.927465
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/23/marx-generator-knocks-our-rocks-off/
Marx Generator, Knocks Our Rocks Off
Jakob Griffith
[ "Misc Hacks" ]
[ "capacitor", "disaggregate", "generator", "high voltage", "lightning", "marx", "pole pig" ]
What weighs more than 500 pounds, produces 500 kilovolts, and we don’t recommend you try at home in any way shape or form? If you guessed a rock disaggregation device , you’re correct! We also accepted lightning generators as correct answers . Using high voltage electricity, a rock can be split apart down to its grains without destroying the precious minerals inside; unlike traditional grinding and mechanical techniques that often ruin the sample. All it takes is a massive hydro pole transformer, five 1uf 100 kilovolt capacitors, eight hand wound inductors, and two massive cojones to stand within 20 feet of the thing while it’s going off. Video after the divide. [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAQabaA2DWE&feature=player_embedded%5D
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[ { "comment_id": "201495", "author": "spiritplumber", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T21:14:24", "content": "Bonus points for the look of the thing!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201496", "author": "spiritplumber", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T21:16:31", "content": "Also, someone should play Iron Man with the disaggregator blasts as the base.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201497", "author": "RadBrad", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T21:24:21", "content": "Hey thanks for the post again!I really miss that beast, but as garage space became tight, I had to dismember the machine to make room when the lease on my secret lab was done. I didn’t want to fire off this thing in my urban garage since the sonic boom was more than enough to crack nearby windows and send “the man” for a visit!I am going to make a smaller table top Marx Generator soon, using a pile of HV caps I found at a salvage shop.Cheers!RadBrad", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201498", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T21:24:30", "content": "hmm … inductors replacing resistors i was not aware that would work O_o", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201500", "author": "RadBrad", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T21:27:35", "content": "@Biozz…Actually, inductors work better than resistors if you can get the perfect value. Faster charging and less loss.RadBrad", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201502", "author": "Hirudinea", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T21:29:43", "content": "Impressive!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201509", "author": "arfink", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T21:52:53", "content": "It would be awesome is some place like De Beers contacted you to get one for diamond extraction. Also to see more cool stuff with marx generators, which are a very cool concept. Good work!Oh, and the mexican military surplus capacitors story made my day. All great hacks start with great cheap gear. :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201515", "author": "John Avitable", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T21:59:52", "content": "1) So you’re saying that if you blast a rock with a shit-ton of electricity that it will split as such? Cool.2) I’ll be those rocks are hella-hot when they come out of there.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201516", "author": "RadBrad", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T22:03:49", "content": "@John Avitable…Actually, no heat at all is generated in the liquid or material! And even stranger is that the pressure seems to be concentrated all at the bottom of the liquid. Vessels that failed only seemed to break at the bottom, even when the top lid was only held on by a few elastic ties.RadBrad", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201524", "author": "Brent", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T22:13:09", "content": "“Will it Disaggregate?” is the logical next step after the “Will it blend?” videos get boring.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201531", "author": "svofski", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T22:21:01", "content": "@Brent: lol", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201536", "author": "D_", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T22:34:26", "content": "How far out it would be to have a video of what is happening in the chamber. I’m sending the LS link to my friends. Telling them the next time some on calls them crazy to send them to this project. The probable cost of this project alone would keep me from ever trying to duplicate it While I give HV respect, I don’t fear it, so that wouldn’t be a deterring factor. This has to be one of the most interesting hacks ever featured on hackaday.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201542", "author": "Scott", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T22:54:15", "content": "Very Impressive and practical project!It might be possible to capture the action in the tank as video by using a fiber optic connection. I have no idea if the process generates a “flash” or not so it’s possible that additional fiber cabling may be needed to provide controllable light source. Make sure the fiber optic cable has no metallic threads in the wrapping…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201543", "author": "turn.self.off", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T22:59:59", "content": "Of all the crazy things humanity have been able to harness, EM may be the most awesome and insane.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201551", "author": "Ho0d0o/Heatgap", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T23:20:33", "content": "Brad has lately become my hacker hero of sorts. His projects seriously blow me away. The Lazarus 64 project blew my mind and yet he is SOOO modest about it like it ain’t no thang! Now this beautiful 500 kilovolt Rock Disaggregation tool?!RadBrad you sir have earned my personal “Badass Dude of the Year Award”. I look forward to your future work with the Lazarus 64 project, your bicycle projects, and basically everything else you do! You inspire me get off my ass and monkey around with stuff more. Thanks man.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201554", "author": "Ho0d0o/Heatgap", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T23:23:37", "content": "I’m honored to just be in the same community with some of you guys. Much of the world’s undiscovered genius exists around this site…at least in my opinion.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201564", "author": "therian", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T23:30:54", "content": "I want those capacitors so badly", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201565", "author": "Nick", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T23:41:36", "content": "So cool! I just read all 18 pages on lucidscience. What an awesome project! Way to go.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201577", "author": "Jake", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T00:21:57", "content": "This is incredibly sexy.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201580", "author": "macw", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T00:31:16", "content": "I would love to see the inside of the chamber in slow motion. What’s causing the actual disaggregation — is it an electromagnetic force? Are the different mineral junctions operating as dipoles or something? Or is the EM discharge causing some sort of mechanical force to be generated in the liquid, shattering the grains in the process?How dense and homogenous a rock can be ripped apart? I assume this works well for brittle conglomerates, but would you be able to extract minerals that are more tightly fused?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201584", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T01:02:08", "content": "@RadBradthanks!i have 10 30kv 0.001 caps laying around and with lack of resistors they collected dust but i aut’a try this outgot to find where i keep my flybacks tho >_<", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201588", "author": "outleradam", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T01:29:08", "content": "What a shocking way to do it!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201589", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T01:34:43", "content": "The very best science always has a mad-man attached to it.This is an interesting way to do plasma blasting – using nylon for the containment and blast chamber is a cool idea. I’ve seen small scale gun stuff (basically, you replace gunpowder with air and high voltage) but never anything of this size. My hat is off to you.Once upon a time, this was one of the methods used to extract certain necessary elements fromrock, but there was war and a certain amount of secrecy involved. It was rediscovered a couple of times in the 70s, but certain folks bought the companies out and put a blanket on it… you can automate the process so that dull rock and sand goes in and glowing powder comes out.By the mid 90s it had been invented so many times that the cat was obviously out of the bag, and a canadian company started to run with it. It was invented in Korea and Germany as well.There is a reverse version of this used to coat materials, mix alloys of weird materials and create all kinds of things, which I suppose is still a hush kind of thing. Rather than using the 1930’s style 12 times a minute, they dump current at audio range and higher frequencies, and sometimes modulate it. No snapping, more of a squeal.This is easily the coolest thing I’ve seen on hackaday, Brad. Mad Props!Professor, be careful about showing off high energy devices. You might talk to burt swank about his run-ins with the folks who don’t like physics and worry for a living, or a guy I know who was playing with laser ionization (make a path in the air, shoot tungstein particles down it with HV, typical Tesla crap) and came very close to a visit.I expect amateur fusion experiments to be illegal within 10 years.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201592", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T01:52:54", "content": "now i want to build a disaggregation chamber that i can fit in. i wanna be disaggregated, FOR SCIENCE!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201593", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T01:55:57", "content": "Hey, did you happen to plot your current and voltage for each run? I’d be pretty curious about your charge cycle cost, and if you’ve done the math to look at the dv/dt field from your observation point. Regular exposure to strong HV and resulting fields = greatly increased risk of various issues that smell like leukemia. You should consider treating it like working on X rays. I know 5 people will shout me down, but they’re likely to be pack-a-day smokers. :)Let me throw in my two cents about the blowouts.Basically, there’s a reason why spherical chambers get used for high pressure physics. Your vessel was much weaker than it needed to be because you didn’t provide a curved surface on the bottom.The punchline is that you were using a single anode point – and so the blast was basically a acting like a shaped charge. I won’t discuss that aspect any further. Just look at the geometry. A circle will stretch.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201599", "author": "workingsmart", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T02:10:47", "content": "@Macw & @Radbrad:I’ve been reading up on and considering the possibility of building an EDM machine and in my readings in the machinist handbook I learned that the electronic discharge asymetrically destroys the two electrodes depending on polarity. Pg 1298 Machinists handbook 28th edition. A similar process could be causing your shockwave to only move in one direction inside your containment vessel.In EDM the workpiece is immersed in a dielectric fluid which arcs when a certain voltage is reached. Taking micro-craters out of superhard materials is slightly different different goal than your machine but EDM seems to work on the same principle except in an extremely controlled environment.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201604", "author": "George", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T02:24:29", "content": "…”a massive hydro pole transformer…” You, Sir, have just outed yourself as a Canadian. :)I second the suggestion that “Will it disaggregate?” become the new “Will it blend?”, though. Though I suspect pretty much everything will, if you eventually throw enough joules at it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201633", "author": "hammy", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T04:29:01", "content": "@John Avitable – How else do you think they extract aluminium from bauxite?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201712", "author": "Kevin", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T05:39:22", "content": "@ hammy & John AvitableYeah, except the forces involved are acted on molten Aluminum @ 1000 C. The process is pretty nasty, putting out some good ‘ole melt your face off HF. See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hall%E2%80%93H%C3%A9roult_process… Good times.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201780", "author": "nfs", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T07:06:28", "content": "put your hand into that hole see what comes out of it", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201884", "author": "Adam", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T08:35:13", "content": "You had me at “it was the only material found to contain the intense blast” I must build one now! I have absolutely no use for it what so ever, but i would love to piss off my neighbors my exploding some rocks in my garage.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201968", "author": "Chuck Simmons", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T11:38:37", "content": "This thing is 500kV of insanity. I love it!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201976", "author": "Pouncer", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T12:04:03", "content": "That’s super cool!Wish we could see the action inside the containment vessel.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201987", "author": "blue carbuncle", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T12:58:37", "content": "Imagine if you hooked it to a doorknob as a practical joke. The doorknob has an Arduino inside it though :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "3050210", "author": "bob", "timestamp": "2016-06-09T20:29:05", "content": "The arduino would die lol", "parent_id": "201987", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "202032", "author": "Don Hartley", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T14:01:12", "content": "where’s that “video after the break”?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202033", "author": "HackerK", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T14:10:09", "content": "AWESOME! It would be even better to get a hi-fi recording of the sound so one can feel the ‘deep bass’ as describe… that will be next best thing to visit the secret workshop.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202078", "author": "Don", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T15:39:13", "content": "How much for shipping to Canada.We could use one on this guyhttp://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/news/national/article/97463–williams-handed-two-concurrent-life-sentences. Oh wait no D penalty in Canada. Too bad", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202106", "author": "Don", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T17:13:49", "content": "in addition to my above comment .Your havin the daily swim in the prison hot tub and then the cycle starts up the dome gets lowered and you cant get out . 2 bolts and thats it", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202146", "author": "Bossman", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T18:56:01", "content": "Higher voltage=higher coolI like short circuits with huge capacitors.Great project", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202169", "author": "hudson", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T20:00:52", "content": "could made an coilgun etc. from this?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202175", "author": "salomon", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T20:15:44", "content": "I’d need two massive cojones too!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202385", "author": "medwardl", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T05:18:25", "content": "I wonder if it would be financially feasible on a much larger scale for something like mining precious gems or something like that.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202459", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T09:09:55", "content": "This guy IS a powerhouse.I wouldn’t be surprised if the machine was actually hooked to Brad himself!WOW that thing is incredible.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202465", "author": "anon", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T09:50:42", "content": "1) Use it to scramble and cook eggs2) Eat the eggs3) …superpowers!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202637", "author": "Mark", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T17:56:09", "content": "I want to know where the kit is and how much does it cost? ;-)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202680", "author": "Time", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T19:22:03", "content": "I have also seen systems like this with only a fraction of the size. To get them more compact you obviously need to contain them in a pressure vessel holding some pressurized SF6 or in an oil tank of some kind.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202980", "author": "tntc", "timestamp": "2010-10-26T07:22:50", "content": "Suddenly mining in Eve Online seems a bit more plausible.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "204275", "author": "echinos", "timestamp": "2010-10-28T18:24:47", "content": "As for watching the blast/getting video;would you not be able to make a clear lid for this thing? If there’s not much force going upwards, just make a clear lid and watch thru the top :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "707632", "author": "mohammed", "timestamp": "2012-07-19T20:17:18", "content": "could we build 30kw free power generator by this way for home use", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "1060225", "author": "Steve", "timestamp": "2013-09-17T22:49:00", "content": "Hi Brad,This is awesome please keep the amazing works dude. I am loving it!Any chance I can get ur contact we can put this to more useful work in Africa.holla back atmrshorty105@gmail.com", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,351.495612
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/23/im-me-usb-dongle-hacking/
IM-ME USB Dongle Hacking
Mike Szczys
[ "classic hacks" ]
[ "cc1110", "cy7c63803", "cypress", "dongle", "girl tech", "im-me", "OpenBench Logic Sniffer", "usb" ]
This circuit board is from the USB dongle of a Girl Tech IM-ME. [Joby Taffey] took it apart and poked around to learn its secrets . These dongles come along with the pink pager that has become a popular low-cost hacking platform . But we haven’t seen much done with the dongle itself up until now. [Joby] used the OpenBench Logic Sniffer to gain some insight on what’s going on here. The board has two chips on it, a Cypress CY7C63803 USB microcontroller which talks to the computer over USB and also communicates over SPI with a Chipcon CC1110 SoC radio. It looks like reprogramming the Cypress chip is a no-go, so he went to work on the CC1110. The inter-chip communications data that he acquired by sniffing the SPI lines gave him all he needed to reimplement the protocol using his own firmware. As a proof of concept he to reflashed the CC1110 and can now send and receive arbitrary commands from the dongle. There’s a tiny video after the break showing a script on the computer turning the dongle’s LED on and off. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN29hRLuAic]
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[ { "comment_id": "201459", "author": "cgmark", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T20:01:02", "content": "I would love for someone to post some info on how to program these cypress chips. They are used in everything from keyboards and mice to ir controls. The only info I can get from cypress is you have to buy the development kits, and those are really pricey.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201463", "author": "pytey", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T20:14:56", "content": "Also for those interested in slightly higher level check out Scott Albertine’s open source IM-ME drivershttp://im-megpldrivers.sourceforge.net/.@cgmark if you are interested in the Cypress PSoC SDK and need a programmer there is a cheap route, buy the Avnet Spartan 3A development kit, this is a Xilinx FPGA development kit that also has a Cypress PSoC chip on board (handling capacitive touch and UART), the best thing about this is it is $49 and comes with a free Cypress PSoC programmer. Link –http://j.mp/daFscj", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201470", "author": "nes", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T20:39:16", "content": "I got the impression from the datasheeet these Cypress Encore II controllers are initially programmed through the USB connector but using something more trivial than the USB protocol. There are no details what the protocol is though and whether the firmware loader resides in the flash and thus gets overwritten by the custom firmware, or whether it lives in it’s own ROM and can be re-enabled somehow. I guess someone would need to get hold of a genuine Cypress programmer and try and reverse engineer it to know for sure.It would be really cool to be able to use the dongle as a programmer for the Chipcon chip.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201519", "author": "Paul Potter", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T22:05:59", "content": "The more the IM-me can be hacked the better.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201623", "author": "Infrared", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T04:07:14", "content": "You can purchase a low low cost development kit for the chipcon rf @ Texas Instruments and you can use the Simplifi RF or any other protocol with the set. Why hack the cypress when you can get a cheap solution from TI. You could use the firmware from the IM ME with the TI CC", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201762", "author": "xorwar", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T06:54:12", "content": "The cypress chip probably gets programmed through voltage control and sequential buffers on the data pin. It probably has a ROM or non-writable section for the programming code.Looking at this though, it looks to play the role of just USB to SPI conversion..The magic is in the software and baseband.FYI: Most cypress chips are obscured. I know this from trying to mess with clock-gens on some netbooks that had ACPI CPU config removed with BIOS update. They all go to OEM.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201950", "author": "george", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T10:21:08", "content": "wow like 12 relative comments deleted, one revealing how to pin buffer program the cypress chip..I wonder how many talented people are going to bother to comment here if their comments just get wiped?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202462", "author": "nes", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T09:14:14", "content": "“wow like 12 relative comments deleted, one revealing how to pin buffer program the cypress chip..”.. And the Googlebot seems to have missed the lot. :-/ Cypress’ legal dept must be very quick off the mark. Guess that just about wraps up any chance of retasking the im-me USB chip to do anything more useful. Even if you could you couldn’t tell anyone about it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "202485", "author": "Caleb Kraft", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T11:46:48", "content": "“wow like 12 relative comments deleted, one revealing how to pin buffer program the cypress chip..”Deleted from here?", "parent_id": "202462", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "202531", "author": "walt", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T13:37:20", "content": "i remember when dongle meant…DONGLE: 1. (computer science) an electronic device that must be attached to a computer in order for it to use protected software.you’ve got to love watching the slow decay of terminology. wtf people!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202559", "author": "psocuser", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T14:42:52", "content": "cypress chip can be reprogrammed, but you need a $40 in circuit serial programmer connected to the right pins. Not hard to do. Check and see if the usb line has 20-27 ohm resistors on the D+ and D- lines as well as ~100 ohm resistors going to different pins. If the ~100 ohm resistors are there, you can use a bastardized usb cable and a cypress programmer to reprogram the chip. As someone else mentioned though, the chip merely functions as a usb bridge to the radio and that particular chip isn’t packing a large amount of memory anyway.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "207364", "author": "mr x", "timestamp": "2010-11-03T23:49:28", "content": "These are super cheap on eBay UK right now because the highstreet shops have stopped selling them. They were getting too many returns because it’s a closed IM/SMS platform – the very feature you’d think paranoid parents would love? It’s also been marketed at the poor parent who is weak when it comes to pester-power. Any kid worth their salt today has a netbook right?!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "217655", "author": "Joby Taffey", "timestamp": "2010-11-24T12:48:31", "content": "The communications protocol between the Cypress and CC1110 is still not completely understood.I now favour using a serial port wired onto the CC1110 instead –http://blog.hodgepig.org/2010/11/23/im-me-dongle-uart/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "1978977", "author": "Blake", "timestamp": "2014-10-10T14:29:51", "content": "I assume the dongle isn’t a true Wifi transmitter, right, but rather a low-power RF chip?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,351.643781
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/23/evalbot-arrival-and-assembly/
EvalBot: Arrival And Assembly
Mike Szczys
[ "Robots Hacks" ]
[ "assembly", "evalbot", "robot", "texas instruments", "ti" ]
[Chris Muncy] just received his EvalBot from TI and took some pictures of the assembly process . He was one of the lucky folks that picked up the kit for just $25 using a short-lived coupon code. Seeing the kit makes us wish we had ordered one. There is some assembly required but as you can see, it’s pretty much just mechanical assembly of the wheels and the front bumper arms. We think the wheel design is quite good. It consists of two small gearhead motors mounted on the rectangular PCB parts that you can see on the right portion of the image above. Those mount to the circular mainboard using metal L brackets. The wheels themselves are three circular pieces of PCB, one with a smaller diameter sandwiched in between its two larger cousins. This creates a channel that is perfect for a neoprene O-ring to give the wheel traction. The main board uses an optical sensors and a hole through all three parts to function as a rotation counter. It’s a fancy piece of hardware and we can’t wait to see what you can do with it! If you’ve got one, we want to hear about your adventures .
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[ { "comment_id": "201408", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T18:10:54", "content": "Can’t wait ’til mine arrives!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201412", "author": "Bill", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T18:21:13", "content": "Someone needs to follow up with a ‘How-to’ getting started on programming this thing for those of us still stuck in the AVR dark ages.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201415", "author": "NoX", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T18:31:44", "content": "mine arrived yesterday!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201428", "author": "Kemp", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T18:59:27", "content": "Those of you interested in a place to discuss these boards in more detail,http://ti-evalbot.proboards.com/index.cgiis a good place to start.Hope mine arrives soon :-)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201444", "author": "mcinnes", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T19:07:44", "content": "i’m still waiting for mine to ship.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201449", "author": "truthspew", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T19:25:30", "content": "Hopefully I’ll get mine soon. I managed to spend over 40 minutes dealing with TI’s craptastic fulfillment site and finally got it to accept the order with the coupon code.But then my eZ430-433 Chronos took A YEAR to be shipped to me.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201455", "author": "MadHatter", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T19:45:54", "content": "They rob this from Pololu. Pathetic…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201464", "author": "juancferrer", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T20:17:58", "content": "I got mine today!Pro tip:Make sure the wheel holes really really line up.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201465", "author": "GotNoTime", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T20:19:10", "content": "@MadHatterRobbed? Pololu was the first company to ever make a robot kit that looks like this? If you think that then you’re either trolling or severely misinformed.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201468", "author": "andrew", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T20:37:20", "content": "@MadHatter, what are you talking about?It’s cool how most of the bot is just printed circuit board, like the chassis, wheels, and bumpers.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201469", "author": "Ian", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T20:39:04", "content": "Got mine yesterday. Listen to his advice on clamping the wheels — I need to redo mine because they separated enough to angle and cause flat spots, bottoming the robot out. Can’t wait to get it running!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201473", "author": "deadbird", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T20:43:05", "content": "I ordered one of these babies about a minute ago, the coupon still works.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201477", "author": "Bill", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T20:57:10", "content": "@deadbird“Please be aware that use of the code will be validated against the ESC Boston attendee list. Use of the coupon code will result in approximately a 24-hour delay before firm confirmation of your order; coupon code uses for non-ESC Boston attendees will be canceled.”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201517", "author": "DarkFader", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T22:05:00", "content": "Anyone know a name on that list I could try?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201518", "author": "Fishebulb", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T22:05:33", "content": "My buddy and me ordered ours about the same time when that short lived deal was available. Both of ours are listed as 12/21 for the expected ship date.Cool article though, i like unboxing and assembly articles like this", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201528", "author": "Bill", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T22:17:24", "content": "Just finished building. The wheels are HARD to put together and get right. The wheels really don’t stick out past the batteries that far. It gets caught up on the gout lines between tiles in my kitchen.Would be nice if they added cliff sensors and/or line following sensor to the board. Would make for a nice desk toy as I figure out how to program this thing.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201548", "author": "compukidmike", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T23:08:43", "content": "@FishebulbMine was also scheduled to arrive 12/21, yet I received it yesterday, so it could be sooner!BTW, I was order #5777", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201552", "author": "Marcus Quintilian", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T23:22:16", "content": "mine still hasn’t shipped", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201572", "author": "Paul Potter", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T00:04:09", "content": "Looks very cool.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201574", "author": "NatureTM", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T00:12:20", "content": "It’s nice to hear I might not have to wait till Christmas to get mine. I’m still a little worried this will be a mess to get working with using only OSS, but at least I might not need to wait too long to find out.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201603", "author": "Samir", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T02:20:16", "content": "Has anybody found the schematics for this board?From my research it looks like a demo-board for the MicroCOS 3 operating system, and you’re suppose to buy the book to get the schematics.As for programming it, I plan to use Keil (not free), it supports Cortex targets and Luminary Micro chips.All I need now is the schematics.. anyone have those?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201634", "author": "David", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T04:29:42", "content": "@NatureTM – same here, I actually got a phone call the other day from Micrium asking whether I wanted to buy any of their RTOS software. Interesting to know that they’re ringing up people who bought the boards – has anyone else had this happen?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201899", "author": "nfs", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T08:58:48", "content": "Stella Stella Gosser Amstel Heinkenbut not stellaris familyfuck spends money on shit like this mickey mouse robot, rather drinkin the moneywhat the fuck man are u", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201953", "author": "Ben", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T10:32:55", "content": "Some of us can afford to buy robots and beer.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202076", "author": "NatureTM", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T15:32:18", "content": "Here’s the TI support page including a link to the schematic:http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/ekb-ucos3-evm.html?DCMP=STELLARIS&amp;It seems like it’s easier to use google to find TI documentation than to actually try to find it on TI’s site. I like their products, but not their website/support.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202182", "author": "Paul", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T20:44:28", "content": "compukidmike:Thanks for the info. My order is 5965. I dont mind waiting because it was a great deal but it would be cool to get it sooner.I kind of figure they just delayed a LOT of the orders to December 21st and then that way people will be happy if it arrives earlier. They did get a LOT of orders that day.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202472", "author": "Necromant", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T10:32:52", "content": "Mine is still pending… Wonder when they will ship the international orders…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202503", "author": "HUSSTECH", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T13:19:40", "content": "Got mine two days ago to the UK – with no customs charges! From what I have read I have one of the lowest order numbers.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202822", "author": "Samuel", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T23:45:59", "content": "My order just got f*cking cancelled. Minut points of TI, a whole truckload of them.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202831", "author": "Bill", "timestamp": "2010-10-26T00:14:45", "content": "@samuelDid you order it after they said it was a mistake and they were going to cancel orders?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "204362", "author": "JJ", "timestamp": "2010-10-28T22:44:08", "content": "Says this on TI’s page now:Please note: ESC Boston attendees received a special coupon for a highly discounted EVALBOT. As of October 11th, we have re-enabled use of the ESC Boston coupon code and extended the expiration date of the coupon code by 1 week. Please be aware that use of the code will be validated against the ESC Boston attendee list. Use of the coupon code will result in approximately a 24-hour delay before firm confirmation of your order; coupon code uses for non-ESC Boston attendees will be canceled. Either way, approximately 24 hours after your order, you will receive an email either confirming your order with a firm delivery date, or informing you that your order has been canceled. If your order is canceled, your credit card will not be charged.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "204587", "author": "zeduude", "timestamp": "2010-10-29T11:39:48", "content": "Well.. my order hasn’t been cancelled, but i haven’t received any mail after the order either..An most importantly, that notice wasn’t there ath the time of ordering…I’ve never seen anything like that, buying a product for a certain price, and afterwards augmenting the price??I’m lucky i didn’t buy a large quantity of the ic’s we used from Ti:“Sorry sir, you can’t produce your product because we’ve decided to raise the prices by factor 7, so instead of 100000x 0.50$ its 100000x 3.50$, have a nice day, and we’re so sorry for the inconvenience…. ”The PR guy’s over at Ti are sleaping or just terribly bad in what tey do….", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "204882", "author": "Jean Anne Booth", "timestamp": "2010-10-29T22:43:44", "content": "The coupon code was intended for ESC Boston attendees, but we are honoring orders that were confirmed before an update/clarification about the coupon code was posted on TI’s estore. As many experienced, there were issues with TI’s estore due to the volume of orders, but we’ve worked aggressively to address those issues. As some have reported, some orders have shipped. We have an email confirming orders and providing your order’s anticipated ship date that was supposed to have gone out to those of you with confirmed orders; from your comments, it appears that email hasn’t yet gone out. Be looking for it.Let me summarize:* The $25 Stellaris EVALBOT coupon code was intended for ESC Boston attendees* TI is honoring all orders that used the coupon code before we posted the clarification about the use of the code on the TI estore Stellaris EVALBOT ordering page* Credit cards will not be charged until the order ships* Orders placed after the coupon code clarification receive either: (1) a follow-up final confirmation for valid coupon code users, or (2) an email indicating that the order has been cancelled for invalid users of the coupon codeThe enthusiasm around EVALBOT is awesome, and we can’t wait to see where you take the technology. It’s clear to us that we need to keep providing these types of easy-to-use, fun tools along with ways to salute your innovation. Stay tuned!–Jean Anne Booth, Texas Instruments", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "309709", "author": "Shawn K.", "timestamp": "2011-01-20T05:13:15", "content": "If anyone could help me get started with programming, that would be awesome.I just received mine and I didn’t expect it to come with zero documentation.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "311499", "author": "crenn", "timestamp": "2011-01-22T02:17:38", "content": "Shawn K.The documentation you require can be downloaded from here which also includes where to get the software.http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/ekb-ucos3-evm.html", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "316133", "author": "Andrew", "timestamp": "2011-01-28T00:37:21", "content": "Just got mine today. Looks like they are still coming.Word to the wise: scrape out the inside of the inner wheel piece before attempting to insert the motor shaft. I clumsily knocked off my wire motors and had to solder them back on.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "316168", "author": "Shawn K.", "timestamp": "2011-01-28T01:04:48", "content": "Andrew, same happened to me.Those wires aren’t held on all that well.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "316637", "author": "Dids", "timestamp": "2011-01-28T08:58:41", "content": "Just got mine yesterday (Finland) and I placed my order in may or something, so yeah, it takes “a while”.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/23/avr-programming-introduction/
AVR Programming 01: Introduction
Mike Szczys
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[ "AVR", "introduction", "programming" ]
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We love looking at hardcore electronics projects with a beefy microcontroller and hundreds, if not thousands, of lines of code at its center. But everyone needs to get there somehow. This tutorial series aims to make you comfortable programming the Atmel AVR line of microcontrollers . Whether you’ve never touched a microcontroller before, or you’ve cut your teeth with dozens of Arduino projects, this will help you get right down to the hardware and give you the confidence to build anything. Series roadmap: AVR Programming 01: Introduction AVR Programming 02: The Hardware AVR Programming 03: Reading and compiling code AVR Programming 04: Writing code Prerequisite knowledge Here’s the good news: I’ve set the bar quite low. You need basic knowledge of installing programs on your computer and using them. You should have some idea of how a solderless breadboard works and it is advisable that you have a multimeter and know how to measure voltage with it. And you shouldn’t be afraid of using Google to research questions that aren’t explicitly answered here. What does a microcontroller actually do? This is a loaded question. For the sake of understanding I’ll take this down to the most simple explanation: A microcontroller takes some type of input It makes a decision based on the software you have written The outputs are changed based on the decision in step 2. A microcontroller does what you program it to do. It does so quickly, and reliably. How does it work? For this tutorial series I will be discussing digital logic. That is to say that all input and output pins will be judged based on a voltage of zero, or 5V. This produces our digital 1’s and 0’s, with 5 volts as a one, and zero volts as a zero. So if you want to light up an LED just wire up the circuit to a pin, make that pin an output, and set it to a logic high (5 volts). If you want to add a button, connect it to a pin that is set as an input and program the chip to measure the voltage level of that pin. It really is that easy, once you learn how to write the correct commands so that the chip understands your wishes. A look at he chip itself I’ve decided to use an ATmega168 microcontroller. It’s a powerful chip but it’s no harder to start using than its younger brethren. It will leave plenty of room for you to grow into your projects, while remaining affordable (less than $4.50). Here’s a diagram of it: This is often called the pinout as it shows what each of the 28 pins on the chip actually does. All of these pins have multiple functions and that’s why there’s long lines of text next to each, except for five which only have one name. These are the pins having do with voltage and ground (VCC, GND, AVCC, AREF, AGND), an important issue with microcontrollers. Integrated circuits need a steady voltage source. This means as part of our project we’ll need to build a voltage regulator. This is an easy thing to do on a breadboard, and you should be able to get your hands on the parts locally. It is also worth noting that there is a semi-circular dimple on the top of the chip. This is something you’ll find in the plastic case of these dual-inline-package chips an it’s used to make sure you don’t plug it in backwards. Take a look at the pinout once again and look for the pins whose names start with PD. You should see eight of them total, labeled PD0 through PD 7. This is a fantastic example of the 8-bit nature of these chips. PD stands for Port D, one of the input and output register. Everything in these chips centers around 8-bits. That’s a sequence of eight 1’s or zeros in different combination. If you want to turn on or off specific features, you change one or more bits in a 8-bit register. Every time you want to change one pin you must address all eight in the register. We’ll learn much more about this but not until the third part of the series. Programming The ATmega168 is a programmable microcontroller. But better yet, it’s reprogrammable. In fact, when you’re working on a project you’ll most likely reprogram it several times an hour. This chip has a size limit of 16 kilobytes of programming space. In these modern times of 64 gigabyte iPods 16 kilobytes might sound minuscule. But in reality that’s 16 kilobytes of machine code. You can do a lot with that… trust me. You do need some type of hardware to get the code onto these chips. Usually this comes in the form of an AVR programmer. In the second part of this tutorial we’ll look at several different programming options, then build and program a test circuit. Do Your Homework To get ready for the rest of this tutorial series I need you to gather some tools. You must have some type of computer, be it a Linux box, Mac, or Windows PC. This will run software that takes our code, compiles it into something the microcontroller can use, and then tells a programmer how to write it to our chip. The compiler We’re eventually going to be writing our own code for the AVR, which uses the RISC architecture. But we’re doing this on a computer with x86 architecture. The tool necessary to accomplish this is called a cross-compiler . This is quite possibly the best reason to choose AVR for development, there’s an excellent tool chain available that can easily be installed on multiple platforms. Mac users: Install CrossPack Windows users: Install WinAVR Linux users: Debian and Ubuntu users should install the GCC-AVR package which includes the entire toolchain. Others may want to look at the AVR-libc toolchain page for help compiling the packages. This is not the only option. Many Windows users swear by Atmel’s free AVR Studio software . This is the only time I’ll reference it as I don’t have a Windows machine and have never tried that package. Programming software Our software-of-choice to run the hardware programmer is called AVRdude. If you installed one of the toolchains above you should already have this program. Go to a terminal window or the command prompt and type the following to make sure: avrdude -h This will show the help screen. If you get an error, you should check to make sure you properly installed the toolchain in the previous step, or go download AVRdude yourself . What the future holds That wraps up the introductory installment of this series. Part 2 : In the next installment of this series we’ll take a look at several pieces of hardware that you can use to program an AVR microcontroller. I’ve written a hello world program and will walk you through building the circuit on a breadboard, connecting the chip to a programmer, and using AVRdude to write this simple firmware to the device. I don’t want to get you too excited, but this does involve a flashing LED. Part 3 : A pre-compiled HEX file was used to program the AVR microcontroller in Part 2 of the series. In this portion we’ll look at the C language source code that made up that firmware. I’ll also talk in-depth about the peripherals available on the chip and detail how to use them. We’ll finish up by adding functionality to the original program, recompile it, and reprogram the chip with the upgraded version. Part 4 : Now that you’ve acquired AVR programming skills I’ll show you how to start building cool stuff with them. Follow me: @szczys
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[ { "comment_id": "201351", "author": "profil", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T16:11:52", "content": "Oh, nice!Waiting for part 2 :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "201352", "author": "Caleb Kraft", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T16:12:48", "content": "I’m so excited for these!", "parent_id": "201351", "depth": 2, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201369", "author": "Remlapw", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T16:39:22", "content": "Awesome HAD I am definately looking forward to the next installment!", "parent_id": "201351", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "201365", "author": "mess_maker", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T16:34:18", "content": "I recently decided to graduate myself from arduino to regular avrs and picked up an avr dragon. I’ve been working on my own little programs but am super excited to grab info anywhere I can. Great idea for a series, I look forward to reading the rest.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201383", "author": "teck_neeks", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T16:48:34", "content": "nice, and gizmodo just started their own online classes for prototyping your own electronics.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201384", "author": "Azdle", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T16:49:54", "content": "Just an FYI, AVR Studio requires WinAVR to be installed to do C code anyway.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201389", "author": "Ed", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T17:04:02", "content": "I am going to keep an eye on this! :DI have been waiting for something like this as I keep looking at various kits (arduino, basic stamp etc) but I’d rather learn how to build up something based around a micro-controller from scratch.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201400", "author": "Henrik Pedersen", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T17:42:18", "content": "Blinking a LED… I’m so excited ! :DNo really, this is great. I have waited for something like this to kick the last Arduino out of my life…It was fun old friend, but I have to move on :(", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201401", "author": "biased", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T17:43:07", "content": "This is a great idea for a tutorial. I’m looking forward to the next part of the series because I plan on following it (I’m completely new to this kind of stuff). There’s only question I can’t seem to find the answer to immediately. What hardware is used for programming the ATmega168?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201402", "author": "logan", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T17:46:39", "content": "Awesome! I’ve been wanting to use one of these, but have never taken the leap. Keep up the good work!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201403", "author": "Brian", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T17:52:28", "content": "this is great!maybe have an ARM one in the future? I can program AVR and PIC, but just the choices for ARM and everything is confusing and i dont know where to start", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201405", "author": "DMattox", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T18:01:04", "content": "So I’m pretty good with arduino/done some breadboard AVR work with USBtinyISP, and I’ve made we own hardware for specialized uses. Im sure this tutorial series (like the android tutorials) will have some new stuff in them so I will read every one. My question of the day: will you guys have an “in between” tutorial series? Something to bridge the gap between Microcontrollers and Integrated Electronics? Something along the lines of 32 bit MCU meets linux DIY? Maybe it’s just me, but this is the next step I would like to take… Beyond pushing digital lines, mapping analog readings, and having LED’s blink next to a nokia LCD.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201411", "author": "patrick", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T18:16:54", "content": "winavr is now inactive, see the post from the author here:http://www.arduino.cc/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1277998302there’s an alternative here:http://www.makehackvoid.com/group-projects/mhvavrtoolsi would like to know what will be the “standard” solution.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201414", "author": "elargo", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T18:29:42", "content": "Sparkfun has a good avr tutorial for all of those waiting for part two.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201424", "author": "Sharn", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T18:52:36", "content": "I’m also looking forward to the next part. I’ve been programming on picaxe’s which are fairly closed-source, but have easy cross-platform software available.. having a beginners guide on programming AVRs (in Linux) will probably convince me to switch.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201426", "author": "M4CGYV3R", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T18:56:41", "content": "WORD! All you arduino zombies take note, this is how you’re supposed to do it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201427", "author": "John", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T18:57:14", "content": "This is awesome! As someone who has taught myself all I know about electronics and microcontrollers, I know there are huge gaps in my understanding. I’m looking forward to gaining a better understanding of the basics!Thanks Guys! Looking forward to part 2.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201429", "author": "matt", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T19:01:45", "content": "I agree with Brian: an ARM tutorial (with Linux instructions!) in the future would be great. A side-by-side comparison of ARM development boards would be great too.I like this AVR tutorial idea. Will it cover Makefiles? Keeping track of all the command-line incantations can get confusing, and finding/writing a good Makefile can be tricky. (I’ve been using the one that comes with V-USB as a base for a while.)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201445", "author": "Banjohat", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T19:08:13", "content": "Brilliant! I look forward to see how to to the fuses thing :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201448", "author": "kestrel", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T19:23:07", "content": "For all you people bashing Arduino, yes, you can do some very cool stuff with just straight AVR C. But at the same time, it’s just so much easier to develop things with Arduino that there’s no sense in abandoning one for the other. It’s like saying that writing in C is better than BASH scripting. There is a time and a place for each. I say keep both in your toolbox and use them when appropriate. For the most part, the savings in time you get when using Processing + Arduino makes it worthwhile to have those tools available.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201450", "author": "Gösta", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T19:26:35", "content": "Yeah, great! A future arm tutorial would also be nice.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201451", "author": "beaglebreath", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T19:27:40", "content": "Thank you HAD.I’ve needed a one stop tutorial to get me started with more advanced micro’s. I’ve been playing with basic stamps and propellers forever, and have out grown them.I hope you will give a tutorial in detail to set up a cross-compiler using linux tools (with examples that I can follow along with).Also, I have never seen a good complete howto for ethernet communication from a µc to a compiled program in a pc. I’m coveting a good tutorial which would explain the whole communications path from the microcontroller through the internet and into a program running on a pc (along with creation of a variable in a program…).and I want a new pony!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201453", "author": "Whoever", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T19:39:15", "content": "+1 for ARM tutorials.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201462", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T20:12:31", "content": "@beaglebreath –Ethernet is pretty easy, but I suspect what you want is a tutorial on implementing an IP stack on one or more embedded systems, and then figuring out how to communicate with it from within a program on your PC.Many versions of popular microcontrollers now come with ethernet interfaces, requiring a module, and source for a complete ethernet stack with limited IP functionality.Ethernet isn’t that big of a conceptual leap from asynchronous serial – there’s another layer or two of housekeeping, but that’s all. You’ll need to understand buffering, but everything else is done for you.If you want to control them through software, you locate an IP stack or IP library for whatever language you want to use.In the end, you’re still just sending text and data back and forth like before – it’s just that you have to specify a few more parameters needed by the IP protocol.Running TCPIP does chew up resources on a microcontroller, so it was common to throw a pre-programmed ethernet “coprocessor” on it and just bit/byte bang as you would with a UART.However, built-in interfaces roughly equivalent to a uart started showing up a decade ago. For example, this old-timer is still around:http://www.microcontroller.com/news/dallas_8051_ethernet.aspAs you guys keep moving up the rungs of design complexity, it gets pretty common to simply design a full linux system into whatever you’re building. Once you can run gcc on it, you can run anything!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201466", "author": "Henrik", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T20:23:31", "content": "Give us some more of this please :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201514", "author": "Tech B.", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T21:57:32", "content": "I see you guys took my advice for an AVR tutorial. It is much appreciated. :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201540", "author": "Ajaxx", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T22:51:40", "content": "This is great!. I am so glad that you are starting from the beginning because I am basically clueless with this stuff but really want to learn.I have to admit, as far as the prerequisites go, I do not understand how a breadboard works but I will find out before lesson 2 arrives. In Jr. College I took a basic electronics cours but when it came time to reading resistor rings I lost interest because I am color blind. The instructor suggested I drop the class and I did. That was 26 years ago and I am convinced that todays electronics has a lot to learn without having to be able to distinquish colors. Besides, all I need to do is ask a friend “hey, what color is this”.Looking forward to the next lesson. Thank you HAD.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201541", "author": "HUSSTECH", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T22:52:38", "content": "Fantastic, looking forward to this a lot!I also second the ARM motion.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201602", "author": "Akhil", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T02:15:51", "content": "Should I buy this:http://robokits.co.in/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=541$ = Rs 50Is it worth the money?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201609", "author": "beaglebreath", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T02:50:52", "content": "@ bilboa bob –i get what you’re saying. thanks for the responce about the ethernetism.at the moment i’ve been able to figure out how to serin/serout ‘text’ to a wiz105cv (serial to ethernet board) from my propeller. on my linux box i set up netcat to listen for a connection. i then pipe the ‘text’ from netcat into my compiled program.i’ve no clue how to get the ethernet directly into my program. i’ve also tried a direct connection using vb.net but had no success.i’d like to see a tutorial to hold my hand step-by-step to get this done.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201610", "author": "James", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T02:51:47", "content": "Thanks! Looking foward to pt2", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201616", "author": "JA", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T03:23:01", "content": "Excellent. This is the stuff!AVRs are nothing new to me but I will read whole tutorial series anyways.Don’t leave the fuses out :)ARM? Sure. With some DSP topping :)ATMEL should designate someone titled master Yoda of electronics to write (or film) tutorials for HaD about other stuff they make because they make a whole bunch of goodies, including ARMs :P", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201716", "author": "aw4lly", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T05:51:09", "content": "Wouldn’t this have been better on a 328? I heard somewhere that AVR weren’t making the 168’s anymore? I know they pin compatible but wouldn’t you want to use that instead?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201749", "author": "absolutezero", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T06:41:10", "content": "In part 2, please mention ArduinoISP! Those who are graduating from Arduino will not need to invest money in a programmer. From the environment they are already familiar with, they can upload the ArduinoISP sketch that will allow them to re-purpose their Arduino as a general AVR programmer.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201871", "author": "Adam", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T08:19:47", "content": "there is nothing wrong with using an arduino in some situations. I agree with most arduino bashers when you rage over leaving a full board or a basicstamp with a breadboard in a project. But I have no problem basing a project on an arduino, especially if i embed the chip on a custom board.I’ve programmed Freescale HC12’s in assembly for a class and I used ATtiny 85’s in AVR Studio C for my senior project. I never used an Atmega, but i would say based on the ATtinys that they would be extremely powerful if you knew how to control everyting.The problem is interfacing with things like LCD’s or extracting the exact serial staments you want from an GPS NMEA output. If your code needs to be extremly fast and efficient then go with AVR studio or even assembly. If your just building simple things for fun then i say go with arduino. I’m working on a GPS system to hunt for Geocaches. I’m going to build a custom board that will interface the Atmega328/GPS/LCD. The arduino already has prebuilt libraries for lcd and gps and makes it funner to build things like this. I I got most of the coding done in a couple hours while watching tv.btw its worth mentioning for part 2 that the AVRISP mkii programmers don’t work with Windows 7(not easily) the drivers don’t work. There is a work around but it took me several hours,lots of searching and many many installs/uninstalls of AVRGCC and AVRstudio", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201877", "author": "Adam", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T08:24:22", "content": "forgot to mention that i love the article so far and even though i’ve used the avr’s before, i’m looking forward to the other 3 parts and more like this to come", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201944", "author": "aw4lly", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T09:54:06", "content": "@Adam I didn’t have any trouble with the AVRISP MkII on Win7 at all, just straight plug and play, didn’t need to install drivers or anything.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201945", "author": "henryh", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T10:03:05", "content": "Those looking for ARM tutorial should check out this linkhttp://fun-tech.se/stm32/got me up and running very quickly", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201946", "author": "Drone", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T10:08:15", "content": "@Patrick, indeed WinAVR is inactive now. But it will work with the targets it supports so-far and is nicely integrated with AVR Studio.I read somewhere the person responsible for WinAVR was hired by ATMEL. I wonder if it was to add C/C++ compatibility to AVR Studio.Can’t wait for the second part of this tutorial to see if the recommended programmer is one of those crippled nightmares from the likes of Adafruit.I’ll say it now – buy an AVR Dragon.No I don’t work for ATMEL.One good thing, at least people aren’t being led down the Arduino path – so far.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201962", "author": "henryh", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T11:30:36", "content": "Arduino = AVR Atmega 128/328/1280/… + USART based bootloader + FTDI FT232RL + C/C++ Libraries wrappers for AVR Libc(open source), GCC, it even has a header for programming via ICSP and utilizes AVRDUDE for uploading. (Albeit the header configuration is less than ideal). A little poking around would allow Arduino users to *gasp* follow the tutorial, maybe even using the binaries already included with their arduino ide!!! So whats the beef? There will always be a market for tools that reduce development time or lower the barriers to entry. mbed vs NXP arm, arduino vs avr atmega8 its comparing apples to apples and oranges to oranges, just a little sugar was added, we all love sugar. Most things in Python,Perl,Ruby could be done in C,C++, or Java which could be done in assembly or machine code. I rarely reach for assembly when I just want to *try* an idea. Peace and love.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201964", "author": "JA", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T11:32:13", "content": "@AdamArduino bashing? I have managed to ignore such things or they don’t bash it loud enough that it could be heard under my rock.But yeah, Arduino is like iPhone. I don’t mean to bash Arduino (it’s much more useful and more value for the $ than i-anything), let me explain:one can buy add-ons to extend its capabilities and when new version comes along you just _have_ to have it. Yet somehow their main functions become irrelevant or forgotten: new phone for calling people and Arduino for prototyping purposes.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202031", "author": "jockx", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T13:59:15", "content": "AVRstudio is the way to go on win. I never even heard of this WInAVR but by just judging the quality of the OSS projects lately I wouldn’t waste my time on it. You probably just googled it.You can really say a big thanks for Amtel providing all these stuffs for the hobbists, microchips, avr programmers, cables, software.There are a lot of different microcontrollers out there on different boards what you have no clue what they are. They use random meaningless numbers on the chips, they don’t have jtag or any programming interface, they might not even use any standard code and not RISC.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202034", "author": "ruzo", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T14:12:02", "content": "WinAvr is the avr-gcc compiler to AvrStudio, without it you can only program assembly in AvrStudio, people dont even know how too take full use of an AVR but want to use one super complex ARM..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202054", "author": "patrick", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T14:44:33", "content": "@Drone, yes i know that WinAVR works with the supported device, but i am not worry about now, just a bit about the future (let’s say 1 year). avrdude (part of winavr) will be updated, so how we will have the last version? that’s why i am searching for an alternative.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202095", "author": "mogor", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T16:13:12", "content": "Note that AVR Studio is the best free tools for debugging. Many hates AVR Studio but you must live with it if you want to play with JTAG or debuWire.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202294", "author": "tkniques", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T02:15:56", "content": "I’m looking forward to the next in this series. I’ve been using PICs for years have just moved to AVRs in the last few months.I’m gonna second absolutezero’s recommendation of ArduinoISP, if you already have an Arduino (except Arduino Uno) you have an AVR programmer.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202310", "author": "sanjay", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T02:59:17", "content": "Instead of starting YAAT*, you should have linked to one of the existing ones and directed your energy toward Improving that one.* Yet Another AVR Tutorial", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202452", "author": "Phil", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T08:34:45", "content": "This is more like it, none of that pansy.net stuff.To install the avr compiler and programmer bits on Fedora you only need to do this:# yum install avr-gcc avrdude", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202493", "author": "Mike Szczys", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T12:52:41", "content": "@Everyone: Thanks for the encouraging comments. Part 2 is already in the can and scheduled to post today.Yes, I’ll be talking about fuse bits. But not until part 3.ArduinoISP? Absolutely… If you own and Arduino you already own an In-System Programmer and I use that as the example for programming in Part 2.@Sanjay: I think Yet Another AVR Tutorial is exactly what we need. Yes, there are several out there, but different people understand things in different ways. For people that looked at all the other tutorials and kept on hitting a wall at one particular point this may be the answer for them. Or if not, whomever writes the next tutorial series might address that knowledge gap.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202494", "author": "James K", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T13:04:08", "content": "@ARM Tutorials,I’ve developed both ARM and AVR series and it is far easier to build and do an AVR tutorial than an ARM tutorial… just too many pins and functions to cover.James", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "203791", "author": "Rob Stewart", "timestamp": "2010-10-27T21:17:34", "content": "Excellent tutorial… Nooobs like me need this sort of stuff. Where else can we learn? Keep up the good work HAD!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "204344", "author": "yoipur", "timestamp": "2010-10-28T21:27:17", "content": "J’attends la partie 2 avec impatience ! J’ai déjà tout le matos. Plus qu’à entamer les interruptions !", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,351.217435
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/23/rgb-led-headband/
RGB LED Headband
Caleb Kraft
[ "LED Hacks", "Microcontrollers" ]
[ "headband", "led" ]
[Johncon] wrote this fantastic instructible showing us how to make an RGB LED headband . This should come in really handy the next time we find ourselves needing one… it happens. He picked up this little RGB LED strip while on a business trip to Shanghai. He had to reverse engineer the chip that controls each pair, but once that was done there wasn’t much left to do. He’s using a picaxe microcontroller since he had some lying around and, as he points out, they require very little external hardware. He says he’s going to be ordering more of this LED strip soon and is willing to make a group buy if anyone is interested. [via MakeZine ]
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[ { "comment_id": "201308", "author": "ruzo", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T13:55:52", "content": "Macegr as strips like thoose to sell..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201309", "author": "Mouse Jay Kelly", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T13:59:25", "content": "badass! I would love to buy one of these strips, why don’t I ever go on biz trips like that!?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201316", "author": "TiredJuan", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T14:22:12", "content": "I could go for one, if they’re not too terribly expensive.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201318", "author": "Tom", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T14:30:12", "content": "I feel like I keep plugging these guys, but I’ve been buying the strips from them for a little bit now…http://www.bliptronics.comGood range of other serially controlled RGB LED modules…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201325", "author": "Matt", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T15:04:29", "content": "The 90’s called. They want their internet video format back.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201332", "author": "Pedro", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T15:25:24", "content": "It’s a shame those strips are so expensive – I might have sewn something like this into a hat if not.Caleb, you need to learn the distinction between HTML’s ALT and TITLE attributes. Also, “going going”.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "201335", "author": "Caleb Kraft", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T15:36:16", "content": "@Pedro,I’m quite aware of the difference between the two. I was assuming that many of you would in fact dig deeper into that picture due to the abnormality of us posting a .gif. Also, “going going” is now fixed.", "parent_id": "201332", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "201333", "author": "fluidic", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T15:27:37", "content": "@mattSince the guy tried to make an animated JPEG, maybe we ought to give him some credit for still managing to include more than one frame.Not that the 90s didn’t have plenty of .JPG.GIF files. The damn users can’t comprehend 8.3 file naming conventions for some reason.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201348", "author": "Pedro", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T15:56:01", "content": "In that case, you know us too well.Perhaps I should start displaying comment block too…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201350", "author": "sarsface", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T16:07:19", "content": "Guy looks like the Joker.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201361", "author": "ruzo", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T16:24:20", "content": "its a pretty dumb face…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201397", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T17:33:47", "content": "When I saw that picture, I thought it was of someone’s home made sex doll, based loosely on Ashton Kutcher.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201398", "author": "NatureTM", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T17:36:05", "content": "I guess I can finally complete my look.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201474", "author": "ProtoWizard", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T20:49:59", "content": "Looks like he is under the influence", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201489", "author": "Don", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T21:09:23", "content": "Re: @Pedro,I’m quite aware of the difference between the two. I was assuming that many of you would in fact dig deeper into that picture due to the abnormality of us posting a .gif. Also, “going going” is now fixed.Posted at 8:36 am on Oct 23rd, 2010 by Caleb Kraft:)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201555", "author": "Don", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T23:24:46", "content": "Re: @Pedro,I’m quite aware of the difference between the two. I was assuming that many of you would in fact dig deeper into that picture due to the abnormality of us posting a .gif. Also, “going going” is now fixed.Posted at 8:36 am on Oct 23rd, 2010 by Caleb KraftLets see it the html shows up this time. There’s some little jokes in it:)…Donimg class=”size-full wp-image-29610 aligncenter” title=”Too-cool-Rainbow-Headband.jpg” src=”http://hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/too-cool-rainbow-headband-jpg.gif?w=275&h=200″ alt=”Hard to imagine this going on business trips to Shangai” width=”275″ height=”200″", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201594", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T01:59:00", "content": "They’ll be on sale in shanghai by the time anyone flys over there. Those kids are fast.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202223", "author": "Alex", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T00:07:57", "content": "This is from the guy who was on the first Colony. Cool guy.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202449", "author": "Rob", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T08:19:27", "content": "I sell these RGB strips on my website.Hobbyist length is $21 AUD + Shipping (can be quite costly to the USA unfortunately).http://www.microcontrollersandmore.comThey are HL1606 based and you can get the same effect as in the video with the headband dude.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202537", "author": "walt", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T13:44:42", "content": "I was going to read the article, but I can’t get over that retarded animated gif. moving on…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,351.404218
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/22/halloween-props-pumpkin-in-standby-mode/
Halloween Props: Pumpkin In Standby-mode
Mike Szczys
[ "home hacks" ]
[ "attiny2313", "evil mad scientist", "Halloween props", "led", "mac", "pumpkin", "standby" ]
Evil Mad Scientist Laboratories is preparing for Halloween with this standby-mode pumpkin . Inside there’s an LED plugging a hole that is drilled just to the skin of the gourd-like vegetable. It fades in and out similar to a sleeping Mac, using what we think is a vastly over-powered circuit based on an ATtiny2313 (1k  of programming space for this?). But we still like the idea and we’d enjoy seeing it scaled up to a full LED matrix. We’ve come to expect pumpkin hacks from EMSL and they don’t disappoint. Last year was a mechanized version , and the year before an LED schematic symbol . So what about your creation? With about one week left, take a look around and see if you can’t create something as wonderful as the Pie of Sauron .
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[ { "comment_id": "200945", "author": "Paul Potter", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T19:16:23", "content": "Slight overkill, but amusing. Nice.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200949", "author": "will", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T19:37:20", "content": "slight overkill? this is major overkill. using a capacitor and a coulple of transistors would achieve the blinking.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200950", "author": "will", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T19:37:53", "content": "cellphone parts? anyone?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200955", "author": "David Kavanagh", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T19:40:05", "content": "I’d have done this with a 555 timer and a capacitor sized to provide the proper ramp-up-down curve. (did something like this back in the 80’s)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200966", "author": "Pedro", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T20:07:44", "content": "I was thinking of an op-amp to generate a triangle wave, but there are plenty of ways to do this without a microcontroller.Still, an ATtiny13A probably costs the same as the discrete solution. :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200974", "author": "macegr", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T20:27:46", "content": "Haha…if you want to pare it to the minimum complexity, there are actually single-purpose chips designed to handle this slow pulse effect, for a dollar or less. Voila:http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=FAN5646S700XCT-ND", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200982", "author": "Drew", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T20:55:15", "content": "Hey guys, I put an LED in something, is this a hack?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200985", "author": "Anon", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T21:01:15", "content": "@Drew,Of course.Sincerely,Anon", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200986", "author": "Amos", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T21:05:38", "content": "I would put a wifi antenna in the top, and have one randomly blinking amber LED and another steady on green one.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201000", "author": "Hirudinea", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T21:24:10", "content": "Add a couple more leds and you can make a face.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201002", "author": "Adam", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T21:33:05", "content": "My pumpkin last year was the Red Ring Of Death (really scary) complete with red LED’s to provide the glow. I doubt anybody recognized it but it was fun and simple to carve. This year i’m building a talking “jigsaw” puppet. If i can find a small tricycle it will be epic!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201070", "author": "truthspew", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T00:24:21", "content": "I’m going to use the PWM functionality of an Arduino to flicker some yellow LED’s inside my carved pumpkin. Safer than tea candles.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201136", "author": "vonskippy", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T03:21:30", "content": "Dullest Pumpkin EVER!!!!!!!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201139", "author": "BLinc", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T03:31:59", "content": "I was thinking more along the lines of a Knight Rider array ( circa hassellhoff)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201163", "author": "Gdogg", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T04:45:32", "content": "Yeah I have to say this isn’t much of a hack…I also like how the GPL license in the code took the majority of the zip file’s size.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201164", "author": "grenadier", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T04:53:01", "content": "Should’ve used an orange LED.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201182", "author": "Addidis", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T05:42:59", "content": "It would be oddly amusing to do this with a PIC32 and literally not use the processor at all to do it. Now /thats/ overkill hehe.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201222", "author": "Hackius", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T08:50:46", "content": "Knowing people these days they’ll call the police because they think it’s a pumpkin bomb", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201223", "author": "Soho", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T08:52:29", "content": "And the most boring, trivial and utterly useless “hack” of the year goes to…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201225", "author": "smoker_dave", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T09:03:42", "content": "Last years home made capacitive touch sensor pumpkin on AVR freaks was 100% better than this:http://www.avrfreaks.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=819&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0Check it out.While you are there, google “multi vibrator” (might be a good idea to turn safe search on first!). You can make this circuit with two transistors, two capacitors and 4 resistors. Electronics 101.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201260", "author": "macbooker", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T11:37:43", "content": "I put my mac book inside my pumpkin.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201294", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T12:29:50", "content": "You should have embedded the video, it’s much better seeing it, and in the video it’s a white LED.It’s also amusing to see how huge the PCB is.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gIfwZh1tJw&feature=player_embedded", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201300", "author": "Marvin", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T13:36:39", "content": "Seriously guys…What overkill? You have one µC, one LED, one resistor and batteries?Yes there may be the NE55 approach or even one specialized circuit you would have to order first, BUT WHY?Things can be easily done in software nowadays, so why bother to find a “better” hardware approach?The only thing he could have done is not to use the prototype board and solder the few things together somehow.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201392", "author": "Haku", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T17:12:03", "content": "Ramping up the idea, a Picaxe 08m with a red LED, 38khz IR sensor and a small speaker or piezo could be setup so whenever you point any remote control at the pumpkin the red LED stops doing the blink-fading thing and starts playing a halloween tune, like the knock box from last year plays the Addams Family tune –http://hackaday.com/2009/10/27/piecax-the-poltergeist-reinvents-the-knock-block/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201534", "author": "Tristra", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T22:31:14", "content": "This would make a cool base to build an animated emoticon pumpkin.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201872", "author": "Kakureru", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T08:19:48", "content": "Ill just wait for Pumpkin Pie OS 11", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201895", "author": "Adam", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T08:51:51", "content": "Seriously that board is huge. Even if they want to use a micro, they could go for one of those pic10f. it could be wired up “dead bug” style and would be about the size of a dime or smaller and could handle this. You could even laminate it with clear tape and stuff it in the pumpkin", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202539", "author": "walt", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T13:47:03", "content": "so long efficiency. overkill is the new standard. wtf!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,351.072375
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/22/fm-bug-using-salvaged-smd-parts/
FM Bug Using Salvaged SMD Parts
Mike Szczys
[ "Radio Hacks" ]
[ "bug", "fm", "nokia", "RF", "transmitter" ]
If you’re a soldering ninja this FM transmitter bug is for you. It’s quite similar to the one we looked at yesterday , but this uses 100% salvaged parts. Two phones donated components; a Nokia 3210 for its voltage-controlled oscillator and a Nokia 1611 for the rest of the parts. The bad news is that mobile technology like cellphones use some of the smallest surface mount packages known to man. That’s where the soldering skill come into play. The good news is that if you’ve been scavenging for discarded phones in order to reuse their LCD screens you already have these parts on hand. [Thanks George]
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[ { "comment_id": "200917", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T17:31:06", "content": "is it just me or is this smd one bigger than the threw hole one? XD", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200919", "author": "Spork", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T17:33:46", "content": "Prepaid Nokia phones from AT&T have been $8-10 recently. I bought a few for the LCD’s.. might be fun to make an FM bug inside the phone case.@biozzHah, it does seem that way, huh?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200940", "author": "M4CGYV3R", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T18:54:47", "content": "This looks about the same size as the one yesterday – at least H x W wise. It is certainly a slimmer profile vertically.With some work you could probably get the thing down to the size of a dime instead of the larger CR2032 button cell size like this.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200952", "author": "RadBrad", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T19:39:20", "content": "Nice work!Brad", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200962", "author": "Leif-KC8RWR", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T19:57:47", "content": "1km range at 420-480Mhz?I wouldn’t do that w/o a license.If you are receivable at 1km with a TV card you are probably receivable considerably farther by a ham with a decent base antenna from 430-450Mhz or worse yet by Police/Fire/Military/etc which use the rest of that band.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200963", "author": "xorpunk", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T19:59:42", "content": "People are getting competitive over who has more knowledge of PCB and FM modulation..sadSam size PCB..SMD components..better modulation method in comparison. You can still lose some of the filter bus and put a capacitor for more stable power. less money more field operation.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200970", "author": "AbirdToldMe", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T20:19:44", "content": "fm transmitter, does that mean i could use a normal fm radio to tune in? thx – radio newb", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200973", "author": "Chajtek", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T20:26:25", "content": "This one is nicer. But still huge. This microphone will surely identify it’s purpose. There are smd microphones on market with even have energy saving mode like this:http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/710-mic-sisonic-smd-1-5-5-5v-42db-sp0102nc3-2.html.What range can you get without antena or with a tiny one like on bluetooth?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200983", "author": "xorpunk", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T20:58:35", "content": "@AbirdToldMe:no its 430Mhz, and it drops as power lessens. FM modulation can be used on any broadcast bandwidth, even microwave.This is one place a PIC is actually needed, for a DSP based light encryption. You can also settle for modulation obfuscation, but that is too easy to figure out.Something like a IR laser or inductor tap going over digital shortwave is as good as it gets unless you have access to a reliable satellite link via packet radio :pIve seen a project that could filter human voice off metal plumbing in a building or window frames and broadcast it too.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201006", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T21:44:18", "content": "xorpunk, I like the cut of your jib.Easy enough to modulate a mic and pump out visible or IR light next to the window. We used the plumbing in a tall building to pump a 56k data link from floor to floor (five floors away) without much trouble. Waste pipes and water supply were grounded, but not well enough.The world has come a very long way.It’s like Cellphones + Spectrum Analyzers.The 21st century – it’s magic, complete with rainbows, and it’s all elementary magic at that.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201039", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T22:38:20", "content": "Super nice!-and definitely a plus using recycled parts.Chock full o’ win", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201261", "author": "qwerty", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T11:44:11", "content": "This sounds interesting though I’m not sure this is the right way of using that VCO, it should contain some circuitry to regulate the voltage that drives the VCO frequency.All searches for this part datasheets returned no useful results therefore I cannot tell what pin should be used for that purpose (pin 4 maybe).If anyone has a datasheet or a working link please post it somewhere, thanks.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201297", "author": "xorpunk", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T12:48:24", "content": "@qwerty: not surprising as it all was pulled from cell phones. Especially the VCO.With this type of stuff, even the passive components, it usually takes probing and reverse engineering.@bilbao bob: If I was going RF itd definitely be digital over shortwave, because of the efficiency, and have a checksum and encryption protocol in a SMD DSP with PCB antenna.Id have it moduler with a wide-response mic, IR laser, and EMT configuration. Use firmware and software for cleaning up, and focus on battery life with a bus for a lipo cell.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201349", "author": "Tachikoma", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T16:03:27", "content": "This is way cool. The 1km range is impressive as well. And I just happen to have and old Nokia phone lying around in pieces.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201395", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T17:26:23", "content": "Another cool invention that people long before me invented – well, who cares.In 1984, I thought that the wide-band burst bug was a unique invention. You record at low quality for days or weeks – when there’s actually something to hear – and then spit it out at huge data rates with time stamps – equivalent to wifi at 50Mbs – in a single burst, which is repeated later just in case.Sadly, german uboats had prior art.Later, I thought I had again done something special – use a vox switch to record when something could be heard, buffer the data, and just keep up a quiet little low bandwidth stream of encrypted data that could be turned back into speech… running all the time. If there was no data to decode, you just sent random data until something new popped up. It doesn’t take much to bury the signal into the background noise.Sadly, and inevitably, there was french prior art, and it turned out to be a common technique of the ELF submarine crowd, including american subs.Technology has moved on, and now there are serial interface low power ram chips far advanced over our little 8 MB storage. And 8 pin processors that can do a/d, d/a, compression and power management with time to spare.“It’s so easy an arduino user could do it!”If you want to see these techniques in action, complete with remote api built into the hardware, just look at any smart phone built after 2009.It’s nothing short of amazing! :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201567", "author": "uzerzero", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T23:50:01", "content": "Amazing… after I build a couple of these, I can start my own private detective agency in Miami so I can get back into the CIA and beat Michael Westen to the punch.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201600", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T02:14:20", "content": "I can see it now, uzerzero posts two ads:“Wanted: Wise-cracking overweight black detective with two weeks until retirement and overly attractive tattooed female crop-duster pilot.Mission: Replace Fidel Castro with Dick Cheney’s half-cousin Raoul and turn Cuba into the west coast version of Kauai, but with better hotels and casinos.”“Wanted: stock footage of a seaplane, three trained dobermans and several high mileage late model police cars with current collision insurance.”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201612", "author": "Tachikoma", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T03:05:43", "content": "bilbao bob, you come across as one of the old folks who’s seen the world go to hell and back.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "352136", "author": "Circuitgram", "timestamp": "2011-03-08T20:48:22", "content": "http://circuitgram.com/practice-projects/fm-bug-comming-soon/We can try this circuit as a simple FM bug", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "353143", "author": "science and math", "timestamp": "2011-03-09T17:15:15", "content": "Nice.But it will be very hard to solder this circuit.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/22/1000w-search-light-now-build-a-bat-signal/
1000W Search Light – Now Build A Bat Signal
Mike Szczys
[ "classic hacks" ]
[ "arc", "bat signal", "lamp", "search light", "spotlight", "welder", "xenon" ]
Forget flashlights, and leave those burning lasers at home, [Ben Krasnow] built a search light using a 1000W xenon arc lamp . That box you see on the side of the trash-can housing countains a starting circuit that shoots 30 kilovolts through the xenon lamp to get it started but it is separate from the power supply. [Ben] started experimenting with the lamp back in April but recently finished the project by using the inverter from an arc welder to get the 50 amps at 20 volts needed when the lamp is on. The insert on the left of the image above is an outdoor picture of the beam. You can make out a tree at the bottom. Take a look at the video after the break for a full walk-through of the circuitry and some test footage of the finished product. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Zvh-Luic0]
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[ { "comment_id": "200881", "author": "Polaczek", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T15:52:12", "content": "Wow, this is beautiful. Very nicely explained. Hats off to you sir!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200883", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T15:58:38", "content": "Retina burn – you’ll enjoy it.Funny thing about laser galvos – they don’t know where the light comes from. It won’t be well collimated, but he can build a pretty decent pixel writer using this and some galvos, or do moving signs using bulk r/c servos and stick on mirrors.If he wants to be seriously old school, a bunch of 12″ x 12′ mirror tiles with a bit of black hi-temp paint can be assembled like a ferris wheel and will allow him to project “moving pictures” on the sky.The mechanics of this aren’t complex, but the demo I saw as a kid was a guy who used plywood, expoxy and duct tape to fit big mirror tiles on the hub with tire of a large truck rear-end and then drive it with a motor. He had to screw around to get the beam right, and the tiles may have been smaller (it was a long time ago) but I thought they were large.Voila! Stick figure animation on low clouds. I think he used a small vietnam era search light, YMMV.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200885", "author": "Frollard", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T16:01:49", "content": "That man is insane. I worked as a projectionist for years — those quartz envelopes in a xenon bulb are kept at VERY high psi. To handle a bulb like that without extreme caution and leather protection, let alone full face mask is crazy. They take a tiny bump and bam, ‘glass grenade’. Having the front of that housing unprotected is just poor. A bug shitting on the bulb while hot would cause it to fail dramatically.The oil from a fingerprint is enough opacity on the bulb surface to cause the bulb to fail. There’s a reason they ship in explosion-proof containers.Granted; I worked with the 5-15k watt versions, so 1000 seems quite small, but still EXTREMELY dangerous.OTHERWISE: Great project!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200893", "author": "Phil", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T16:21:36", "content": "If I just Take 10 E27 100 Watt Lamps it is much cheaper?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200894", "author": "DHS Government Wank", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T16:25:15", "content": "The DHS (Department of Homeland Stupidity) shall be knocking on your door shortly for committing terr’ist act of making a light. Such creativity and independent thought is a Clear and Present Danger to ‘Merica and our fear-based belief systems. No need to call your lawyer, we have a nice resort in Cuba ready for you where the Constitution does not apply.Great project, BTW. ;-)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200895", "author": "Jeff", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T16:27:57", "content": "IRL quest marker!“Home is THIS WAY”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200899", "author": "fartface", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T17:06:30", "content": "THE GOGGLES! THEY DO NOTHING!!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200903", "author": "RvnKnight", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T17:14:33", "content": "Just a random question, but I don’t think this guy is using all of his brain cells… why on earth would you be using a screwdriver as a pointing device–especially on something with THAT much juice going through it? Otherwise great project.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200908", "author": "PocketBrain", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T17:24:01", "content": "It would be interesting to build this into a lasing cavity…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200915", "author": "mowcius", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T17:28:28", "content": "fartface, if he was using welding goggles then they would protect his eyes just fine.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200918", "author": "golddigger", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T17:33:01", "content": "Thunder, Thunder, Thunder Cats Hooooooooooh!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200922", "author": "Jason", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T17:43:41", "content": "Mike: Voltage doesn’t go THROUGH anything. Voltage is a difference in potential ACROSS something. This isn’t the first time you have made this minor and very common mistake.http://hackaday.com/2010/08/16/using-videotape-tape-as-a-controller/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200923", "author": "David", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T17:45:11", "content": "Now all he need’s to do is hook it up to a motion sensor, and bam motion sensor security flood light’s.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200943", "author": "plaes", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T19:08:53", "content": "You guys should check out this:http://timmu.store20.com/galerii/?galerie=valgus", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200958", "author": "JB", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T19:47:36", "content": "Did you call Batman yet? :P", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200987", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T21:07:37", "content": "@Jason“Voltage doesn’t go THROUGH anything. Voltage is a difference in potential ACROSS something. This isn’t the first time you have made this minor and very common mistake.”I always laugh at statements like this. Some people can’t handle abstraction, and try to make up for it by being pedantic. If Jason wants to be precise, he needs to discuss this at the lowest level that makes sense.Voltage is electric potential energy per unit charge, which we call volts but mean joules per coulomb. He pretends that electric potential is a better way to deal with the topic, but this must be distinguished from electric potential energy by noting that the “potential” is a “per-unit-charge” quantity.Saying that “Voltage is a difference in potential ACROSS something” shows that Jason is OK with using SHORTHAND for describing the work required to move a charge. Voltage is not the difference in potential, but the amount of work that has to be… well, Jason doesn’t have time to deal with charge and Coulomb’s Law, because Jason chose to use the layman’s description of what is going on.And yet he’s bent out of shape because the author said the voltage goes through a circuit, which is not a mistake, but rather a SHORTHAND term used by many people who learned electronics by connecting things together to make a circuit.Jason, if the guy’s description of the process were wrong, it’s perfectly OK to correct him. But in this context, you’re being silly. It’s like getting in his face about light being wave-like in nature when you know it’s all particles.This guy is trying to become ray charles one tiny arc discharge at a time, but no one imagines for a minute that his internal understanding of electricity is wrong.If you want to do him a favor, buy him a white cane and some dark glasses.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200989", "author": "Terry", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T21:13:24", "content": "Damn. How fast will my weed grow if I use this light? P.S. I’m in California where it’s legal to do this.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201001", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T21:27:45", "content": "Disclaimer: As a 10 year old who found a box of 1910-30’s science magazines, I dismantled two batteries, sharpened the carbon rods inside, and with the help of innate childhood stupidity proceeded to strike an arc – and then nearly caught myself on fire. Very cool.But it made my eyes itch. There is a general trend here, btw. At 8, having just read a book about Edison, I tried to make a filament bulb using a clear glass vitamin jar and some wire. I tried to create a vacuum by sucking the air out with my mouth. The spirit of Darwin was always hovering nearby, as he still does.I did in fact manage to get a lightbulb filamemnt made by putting cotton thread in a toaster (I wasn’t allowed to use the stove) and when I plugged it into the wall, my home made lightbulb glowed very brightly.“I’m so cool!” I thought. (and still do, Sadly)Seconds later the filament crumbled, the wires shorted and the wire blew up. Since I was holding the wire in my bare hand, it burned a lovely “U” into my thumb. The black residue around the electrical outlet was impressive, but after I regained my senses, I hid everything, put an ice cube on my thumb and went out to play.Later that day I talked a 12 year old neighbor girl into renting me part of her basement bedroom for my biology lab… because my mom wouldn’t let me have one (I was 8 and too young for a lab, she said.) and I really needed one for my work.I was 8. To this day, I have no idea what my work was going to be, other than involving white lab coats and a hare-brained scheme to generate oxygen from algae. Really, I didn’t have anything other than a vague idea that I would keep my rabbits and chemistry stuff in her bedroom. We agreed that the rent would equal my lunch money, and the deal was struck.She helped me drag a small table into her room, and promptly got undressed… to uh, help me. I think she had other experiments in mind, but I was very determined to conduct my own research, which didn’t require naked girls, as far as I was concerned. I remember telling her that she would have to get a lab coat if she ws going to help.I was far more concerned about going and getting my 3 test tubes, my batteries and a fish pump (it made bubbles in the test tubes) for immediate use. I had everything installed and bubbling away when her parents came home. She ran out of the room; the next day she came to my house and said I could have my stuff back because her parents didn’t want a lab in their basement.I think I dodged a bullet.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201005", "author": "barry99705", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T21:43:15", "content": "@bilbao bobDepends on what she looks like today. ;D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201028", "author": "Chris", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T22:11:42", "content": "@bilbao bob: And… why should I care about your obviously bullshit stories of renting basements for biology labs and even more some girl 1.5x your age trying to get with you when you were eight years old? Even if you believe those fantasies, they’re still not relevant at all.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201035", "author": "aztraph", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T22:22:20", "content": "bilbao bob: way to stomp on him. liked the story too, reminds me of someone i read about that made a water cannon out of schedule 80 iron pipe and a Teflon ball, and several thousand volts, that wouldn’t be you would it?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201040", "author": "trc202", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T22:44:53", "content": "@mowcius You obviously haven’t watched Astro Boy.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201041", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T22:48:35", "content": "I thought the story was fun and the correction appropriate.Now let’s all go build stuff! :D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201043", "author": "Fallen", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T22:49:28", "content": "I’ve worked with Xenon Arc Lamps as well, and they are like glass grenades when they go off. You need to be very careful with them. Especially if they are hot. If I remember right the ones we had were pressurized to 1000 Atm.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201046", "author": "Leithoa", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T23:16:24", "content": "@RvnknightWhile not the best tool for the job the screw driver handle is insulated and he’s using his right hand to point with so if he does complete a circuit his heart should be alright.The breakdown voltage for air is ~76kV/inch and his hand looks to be atleast and inch away from the shaft/handle junction so I don’t think he has too much to worry about since the startup circuit puts out ~45kV at 100% efficiency. Also hopefully the lamp is unplugged. All the same you’re right he should kick that habit.@TerryGrowing pot is still a crime, it’s just not enforced in your locality. Marijuana is a Schedule 1 drug, ie illegal on a Federal level. States can have more restrictive laws than Federal laws but they cannot be less strict. Having said that Xenon arc lamps put out a spectrum very similar to natural daylight, so given the high concentration of light you would sunburn your plants. This lamp puts out ~1kW/m^2 and the Sun puts out ~6w/m^2 or 166.66 times as much energy per square meter.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201052", "author": "Dave McDave", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T23:24:16", "content": "@bilbao bob: I love you little stories – you’re one interesting guy. You should be writing this stuff on a blog if you’ve not already got one.I too had a strange facination about producing oxygen from pond weed after I saw it in a book when I was a kid. The book gave me the impression you could produce bucket-loads of this stuff from a handful of pond weed – it wasn’t until I was about 14 when I saw a real-life setup in secondary school. Man I felt so cheated because in reality it actually only produced a few bubbles throughout the whole day.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201106", "author": "not this time", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T02:18:21", "content": "This reminds me of my 8,000,000 candle power “pizza driver” light I made. I was working for a large pizza delivery company that had an annoying mascot and a 30 min guarantee years ago. I worked in a notoriously bad area and there was a distinct lack of porch-lights and readable address numbers so I took a headlight (the outer acrylic part) and added several 2 mill CP bulbs. I had to run a separate battery and charging circuit and could only turn it on for short <1 min bursts or it would melt. One day I came to an intersection (4 way stop signs) and someone was blinding me with a light so I Blasted them with mine….. oops, it was a police officer! I just turned off my light and drove away, hey I was working. I'm sure it was several minutes before he could even see enough to pull through the intersection, no way he could follow me or identify me other than \"He was carrying the SUN!\" It was also great for those SUV's with misaligned extra bright headlights that like to tailgate little hatchbacks at night.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201266", "author": "Mike of England", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T12:03:34", "content": "@RvnKnightIf this guy got balls to play with a supply like that, if he used his finger, I would respect him.Great project, Gotham city, needs their lamp upgrading:)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201301", "author": "Jayson", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T13:45:12", "content": "Dude, with the right eqipment/parts and adequate cooling, you can make that into the biggest homemade projector I have ever seen. :D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201364", "author": "cell", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T16:32:19", "content": "Ima firin mah lazar", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201416", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T18:31:57", "content": "@Chris –Man, I wish they were fantasies. I really do. I was probably the only kid interested in space who didn’t want to be an astronaut. No, I wanted to be the guy who built the spacecraft and designed the equipment they used.You know how kids who discover sex too early or get molested by some adult are messed up for life? I’m that kid, except that a drunk jazz musician taught me to read and write when I was four. A very bad idea, in retrospect.You try going to kindergarten when you’re reading third grade books while everyone else is learning to color the letter “N”. I’m not even that smart – I’m more or less the intellectual equivalent of that chain-smoking baby in the phillipines. Instead of cigarettes, someone gave me books and I became a junky who had to know more.I wish my stories were bullshit. I have a strong compulsion to try and do everything one can do in life, and time is running out for me.@pizza dude-Ha! I have a similar story. I had auxillary brights for a while on an old car. I don’t know what the fascination with bright lights were – it seemed like all my friends were melting paint on garage doors at the time.Anyway, my stupid setup was a row of four 28 volt military aircraft landing lights (swiped from a dump) connected to batteries in my trunk – basically a rallye setup, and driven by a contactor. One day I was coming home and some arse had parked in the middle of the street with his brights on.So I turned on mine, thinking I’d show the jerk how rude it was. He turned his off. I turned mine off. He turned on his police lights and indicated that I should park. After much furious bowing, scraping and general kissing of his nether regions, I was let off with a warning.I just disconnected them. I never had the giant flood light, but I know how nice it is to make it noon at ten-thirty pm when you can’t find a place.I wish I had that for the back roads here, where there is no moon and no stars for most of the year, and they turn off street lights to save money.@Dave mcDave –I wonder if it was the same post-sputnik book about the kids who built an oxygen tent for a chimp with pneumonia using algae. That book should have had an FDA warning on it – along with Tom Swift books – because it convinced seven year old me that even kids could do anything they had to if they just studied and were willing to make mistakes.The childhood biology lab experience was directly influenced by that book and “the germ hunters”, and about three boxes of circa 1966 space program propaganda for children. Soon I had a dozen mayonnaise jars with pond scum (I couldn’t distinguish algae from any other green slime) and little aquarium tubes all connected together and supposedly generating oxygen. I had no idea what I was doing – in essence, my science was cargo cult science… but I was in fact “doing”.@barry99705Yeah, I’m guessing she’s probably fat, old and likely has great-grandchildren and a big collection of problems I couldn’t solve. But yes, I’d like to have seen her in her 20’s. You know, I don’t even know why I suddenly remembered the lab story. Oh yeah, the exploding light bulb trick.How the hell I made it to 9 is beyond me. Thank god I didn’t read about arc lights until I was 10. Maybe the TSA should profile 8 year olds with a copy of the “Golden Book of Chemistry” and access to college dumpsters. You want examples?I remember finding a 30.06 rifle bullet and thinking I should be able to convert it to a small solid rocket if I could ignite it. My dad confiscated it when I asked him if he could help me drill a hole in the bottom of it so I could put a fuse in. This was pretty typical for me.A little girl I knew was given a pocket watch by her grandfather, and she proudly informed me that it had 18 rubies in it.I knew that ruby was used to build lasers, so I immediately started offering her almost everything I owned in trade for the watch so that I could start building my laser. I knew nothing about lasers other than they were science, and I needed one.Ruby rod vs tiny chips of ruby used as bearings? Access to strobe lights? Bah! Mere details. Thank God I had nothing of interest to her. So, I was pretty active in science, but it wasn’t really science. Just an 8 year old with a fetish for technology that kept getting worse for a few decades until I realized it was a fetish.But I suppose chris won’t like these stories much either… :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "812532", "author": "ka1axy", "timestamp": "2012-10-10T11:48:04", "content": "Still lusting after that ruby rod?for $39.95, you can have a NdYAG one:http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G18404(The pocket watch is probably worth more intact :-)Gee, I sure miss the days when kids could be kids and blow things up with impunity. We made gunpowder from a formula in the encyclopedia and the sulfur and potassium nitrate from my neighbor’s chemistry set.", "parent_id": "201416", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "201530", "author": "John Avitable", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T22:20:06", "content": "It’s kind of funny. People probably see 1000 watt Xenon lamp and are wowed by the wattage, but theatrical lighting folks think that ain’t nothing, being as your typical ellipsoidal light runs at 750watts and your PAR64 (flood light) runs at 1000watts as well… then you have the lovely 5000 watt fresnel. Awesome build though! I might make one myself.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201571", "author": "Kevin Lura", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T00:00:28", "content": "Not sure why this is so impressive. 1000w metal halides are pretty common.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201595", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T02:02:16", "content": "@Kevin and John“1000w metal halides are pretty common.”Yeah, but they’re not made out of garbage cans!You, know, this thing would probably make a heck of a jerky/meat smoker. I’ll bet it could make sterilized shoe leather in 30 minutes from an average T-bone steak.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201620", "author": "cknopp", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T03:49:35", "content": "I know this is a bit sideways, but after seeing this and thinking about the laminar water jet, could someone speculate on the possibility of producing a laminar light jet using something like this project as a source?My boundary layer photonics are a bit rusty, so any educated response is appreciated!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202185", "author": "LukeS", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T21:05:01", "content": "I wonder if you could achieve the same affect with a commercial 1000 watt metal halide bulb and ballast?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "204005", "author": "Malikaii", "timestamp": "2010-10-28T05:17:21", "content": "50AMPs at 20VOLTS?! Did anyone else think 1.21Jiggawatts?!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "205869", "author": "mr x", "timestamp": "2010-10-31T16:17:30", "content": "Ben your search light is amazing, as is your commentary which is grounded and lacks the umm’s and aaarh’s that some geeks might have :)@bilbao bob love the stories, please start a blog :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "622805", "author": "Lala Sondrini", "timestamp": "2012-04-06T22:11:18", "content": "Good. Its now legal, so thanks. very helpful", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "5314759", "author": "Clive Wing", "timestamp": "2018-10-19T16:03:42", "content": "Yep, building 1000W + lamps is fun, i made my first one with a wooden box and an old microwave oven, one year later I was showing it off to NASA, plasma scientists and Queen Elizabeth. If I had a “safety first” approach I would not have built anything and my life would have been so boring in comparison, just saying … Clive Wiing – Sulphur Plasma Specialist", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,351.575
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/22/panaplex-in-a-jar/
Panaplex In A Jar
Caleb Kraft
[ "classic hacks" ]
[ "nixie", "tube" ]
Check out this home made panaplex display . Panaplex displays are closely related to nixie tubes, but instead of layering individual numbers and lighting them separately, it uses pieces to build the numbers like a digital display. [Lindsay] managed to make one at home, using a jam jar as the vacuum tube.  Argon as the gas in the tube gives it a pleasant purple color. We really think the end result is fantastic, you can see some build pictures and a run through of the numbers on the site. Unfortunately there aren’t any videos of the display in action. [via Makezine ]
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[ { "comment_id": "200828", "author": "Cubby", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T14:21:13", "content": "Went to the link and took a look at the project. For a home made display, it looks quite pleasing to the eye. Well done!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200829", "author": "Noodle", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T14:23:23", "content": "@CubbyAgreed, very sharp, has a lovely color too.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200839", "author": "Gilliam", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T14:47:25", "content": "combine with the EL wire posts recently and take away the vacuum, it would still be a nice high voltage thing-in-a-jar.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200840", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T14:48:28", "content": "Fantastic! Great work.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200847", "author": "Andrew", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T14:57:27", "content": "Really cool project, I always wanted to make my own vacuum tubes.A word about safety… Charging a vacuum tube with more than a few kV will produce x-rays. At 30kV the x-rays will easily penetrate the bell jar and pose a hazard to the operator.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200848", "author": "therian", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T15:02:01", "content": "good stuff@Andrewin theory yes but in practice there must be proper shape and many other small details to radiate enough x-rays", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200865", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T15:12:55", "content": "This is good work – I see he’s already tried test tubes and discovered that [ah, the joys of chinese manufacturing…] you basically cannot trust labels.I wish to point out the reason the guy couldn’t find a lot of references to these techniques is because most tube manufacturers started using glass envelope crimping – which more or less only requires a bit of thin wire and was much more suitable for mass production. Then the tube was placed in a holder. Later, this became direct pin insertion. However, the technique is available to mere mortals.May I suggest the work of this gentleman?http://paillard.claude.free.fr/Now, back to chinese counterfeits, the bane of anyone doing high tech mechanical work! I applaud the chinese economy – where else can you find a usable sheet metal brake in a kit for $20? However, as you move up the food chain, counterfeits – and usually really weak counterfeits at that – are the rule rather than the exception.This is even more true in metals – if you think finding a specific type of glass is hard, try obtaining any part or blank made of expensive metal alloy with specific properties.7 out of 10 times, we will receive something that looks and weighs the same, but when you try to use/machine/melt it, you will discover that it was made from recycled bicycle rims and a bit of rusty magnesium. Finding rusty magnesium is like finding 2% dog’s milk, but chinese factory reps are very clever.From electrolytic caps filled with tomato soup base to aircraft engine crankshafts made of fairly good pot metal, we’ll be paying the price for some decades into the future. Caveat Emptor.PS – I don’t hate the chinese; It’s like having a school teacher turned stripper from marseilles for a sister in-law – as long as you know what’s in the fine print, it livens up the holidays.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200887", "author": "andar_b", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T16:03:17", "content": "“a school teacher turned stripper from marseilles for a sister in-law”LOL", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201044", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T22:53:43", "content": "LOLing a bit myself on that one…Well done, Bob.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "201093", "author": "Caleb Kraft", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T01:49:44", "content": "@bilboa bob,I suspected you would turn into a troll. I was wrong. Good story,I enjoyed it.", "parent_id": "201044", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "201357", "author": "Tachikoma", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T16:16:50", "content": "I love plasma projects… anything that glows turn me on really… :P Just a word of warning, anyone attempting to do vacuum experiments with conventional jars, beware. They are prone to implode if you happen to pick out wrong one.@AndrewTo produce x-rays with sufficient power, electrons will actually have to strike an anode target at the said voltage. You won’t get that kind of acceleration in a poor vacuum, such as the one featured here.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201452", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T19:36:24", "content": "@CalebI appreciate your generosity, and your work here; Please “destroy after reading”.I haven’t done a new media venture, but it’s on my bucket list. However, it would be like asking HST* to write for fox news. I suspect that within a few weeks I would start trying to modify HAD into a technical publishing empire and spending all my time working on monetizing the place. You think one or two stories or articles would be a harmless experiment, but I am always a catalyst.I think it would be in the best interests of all involved if I remained part of the complimentary package of nuts, so to speak.Any compensation would be close enough to zero that it would be donated work anyway. :)So let’s stick with the free commentary for now.*If he hadn’t fried his brain long ago and then chosen to have it extracted in honor of GWB. RIP, HST.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,351.955925
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/21/tiny-fm-transmitter-bugs-rooms/
Tiny FM Transmitter Bugs Rooms
Mike Szczys
[ "Radio Hacks" ]
[ "bug", "fm", "transmitter" ]
Lucid Science delves into spy-tech once again with this tiny FM transmitter . Their post demonstrates a bit larger version than seen above, using a 9-volt battery and protoboard sized to match which makes for easier soldering. The design uses a microphone, two transistors, enameled wire for the coil, as well as various resistors, capacitors, and a potentiometer. What you end up with is an amazingly clear audio signal that can be picked up with a normal FM radio. This would make a great project to do with the kids. You can talk about circuit design, practice soldering, and when finished they’ve got an almost miraculous toy to play with. Just be careful what you say around the house, the room might be bugged!
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[ { "comment_id": "200569", "author": "RadBrad", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T20:40:03", "content": "Thanks once again for linking to one of my projects. The goal here is to show a step by step build process of the basic transmitter to the electronics beginner. The transmitter does work well, but it does have limitations.Cheers,RadBrad", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200574", "author": "Chajtek", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T21:00:33", "content": "I was soldering similar circuit 15 years ago.This is realy nice circuit. Only issue is that it changes freq when battery power is dropping.It will be interesting to do the same with smd components, smaller microphone and may be quartz. I bet it can be size of microphone you have used.This could be nice contest to build fm transmitter from smd elements found on 3.5′ floppy drive.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200575", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T21:01:29", "content": "@Richardfdont worry … transmitting devices occur naturally and if you can change the batteries on them every 9 weeks it would be a big help :3feel free to read your personal information aloud and use the NATO phonetic alphabet :3—you can hide these things anywhere! … but FM might not be the best band to use seeing that most people have a receiver for it XD", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200576", "author": "M4CGYV3R", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T21:05:34", "content": "I used to make all manner of these things when I was a kid and put them all over my house. My parents hated it but it totally got me into circuitry and electronics.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200602", "author": "ehrichweiss", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T21:52:57", "content": "Chajtek: Assuming it wouldn’t take up tooo much room on the board, you could always use a joule thief type circuit to keep the voltage semi-stable until the very end of the battery’s life.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200613", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T22:45:26", "content": "Reminds me of the ones Radio Shack used to sell, only this one is probably a bit better, you know…because of the love.The Shmack ones I used to bump up the power a little and put larger batteries on ’em and simply drop em in the grass in front of my house at night.One on either side of my property, you guessed it, each tuned a bit apart on the band and tuned in on separate radios spaced apart in my room for a decently realistic stereo image of cars and pedestrians passing by.Good times!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200624", "author": "Davo1111", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T23:27:30", "content": "strider_mt2k – thats actually quite cool", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200628", "author": "Tom", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T23:44:56", "content": "Frequency also changes a lot depending on the amount of capacitive load at the antenna. Or where the device is placed. Not stable at all.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200631", "author": "RadBrad", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T23:53:27", "content": "Greets Stider.. It has been a while! Do you still have your cool ROV up and running?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200659", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T01:44:31", "content": "smd versions of this are pretty simple, but it’s easier to go up in frequency with SMT parts. In general the L and C components are larger at FM frequencies. These are (were) fun, but it’s even more fun to use them as beacons to be located with directional antennas. Just replace the microphone with an oscillator of any kind and put it in your car. You can track it with a small radio.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200660", "author": "John Smith", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T01:45:29", "content": "The transmitter doesn’t have to be that stable because of FM’s capture effect. It can drift quite a bit before it causes problems. I’d guess it could drift a few 100khz either way with no problems.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200698", "author": "caff", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T05:25:50", "content": "There was a really wonderful series of books I read as a teenager, the best of which was called “14 FM Bugs to Build” by Colin Mitchell.Anyone interested in small fm transmitters / bugs should have a look at it.http://www.talkingelectronics.com/shop/products/14-FM-Bugs-to-Build.htmlMy favourite was the 9v battery top voyager (with the first smd I ever soldered):http://talkingelectronics.com/projects/Voyager/Voyager-P1.htmlAnd the Amoeba because it fit so perfectly in a tic tac box with it’s 2 AAA batteries.http://www.talkingelectronics.com/shop/products/Amoeba.html", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200707", "author": "elektrophreak", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T06:29:30", "content": "i like it! looks cool :-)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200744", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T09:03:32", "content": "@RadBrad : Hey long time no see! -great hearing from you!Yeah “Probe II SG” is in a closet in “mothballs”.I need to bring it out and look into modernizing it!Hope you and yours are well! :D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200791", "author": "ejonesss", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T11:41:09", "content": "now the site is downthanks hackaday.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200793", "author": "Binky", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T11:42:02", "content": "http://www.lucidscience.com/pro-basic%20spy%20transmitter-1.aspxLink does not work ? :(", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200804", "author": "xorpunk", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T12:14:18", "content": "I’d at least use some modulation obfuscation..also there are designs that filter the same or better with less filter components..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200810", "author": "cgmark", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T12:46:23", "content": "I would like to see more people using just the basic components to build stuff. Everyone has jumped on the ‘you need a chip’ to do things that they forget how much can be done with just transistors, resistors, capacitors. Here is a page that has a free ebook download with 200 transistor circuits and some of them are transmitters.http://www.talkingelectronics.com/te_interactive_index.html", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200816", "author": "qwerty", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T13:45:34", "content": "I made a lot of stuff like this many years ago, but it’s the first time I see someone laying components on the schematic as in the second picture athttp://www.lucidscience.com/pro-basic%20spy%20transmitter-5.aspxI absolutely love this way of letting newbies familiarize with parts. Bravo!The frequency drift can be reduced a lot by putting the RF circuit behind a screen, using an additional RF buffer stage, regulating the power supply and compensating for temperature by choosing the right parts. But that would make the circuit much bigger and harder to build by a newbie.About 20 years ago I managed to build a FM transmitter using a CB xtal on the main oscillator then tuning the RF amp to the 4th harmonic (27MHz*4=108MHz). You can’t get more than a few KHz of deviation when modulating a xtal on the fundamental freq, but its 4th harmonic had enough juice to be heard loud and clear from a commercial FM receiver. Definitely not HiFi though it was more than enough for bugging.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200817", "author": "xorpunk", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T13:52:52", "content": "Back in my day you either built it with wood, or you built it with stone!.o(sorry had to do it xD)People who were doing this stuff x years ago are a dime a dozen..no offense. Its not even intermediate HAM level.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200876", "author": "fartface", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T15:33:50", "content": "@biozz FM is a transmission mode not a “frequency.I can transmit FM that most people cant receive.Sounds like an RF and Radio refresher is needed here.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200879", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T15:44:36", "content": "ah, the joys of growing old.I really like to see people doing this stuff and documenting it. I ended up with a pretty state of the art lab, but I started by burning myself with a soldering iron like everyone else.I remember running into old guys with silent machine shops in their garages and wondering why the hell they wouldn’t be making stuff with it – they knew how to do anything. CNC gear, full on machining centers, wood working tools and near production level chemistry labs. All gathering dust, and generally with an airplane around somewhere.And now my stuff sits around and gathers dust and loses calibration. A few years ago, I gave a kid a 5 digit meter and a 100 mhz scope because he showed me a little data logger cobbled up from a breadboard using a pic chip. He was 14.But I could see he ahd the fire.My imagination ALWAYS outstripped my skill level, but I guess that’s the way it should be; As soon as I had working neon blinkers I wanted to build a computer; After building a couple of computers I wanted to work on AI; after I could do SMT I wanted to ship masks to be fabbed; and so on through a whole range of technologies. It’s a great life for a hacker, even if my brain could use a couple of defrag passes and a bit of cleanup.But even putting serial numbers on white blood cells doesn’t come close to beating the experience of connecting all those parts up based on faith that the schematic meant something, and then hearing my own transmitter on the radio.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200906", "author": "J.D.", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T17:22:52", "content": "Great…the only problem is in the USA even possessing the above device will get you 5 to 10 in the big house! You may want to check out 18 USC 2512 before you build the above.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200929", "author": "chris", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T18:02:31", "content": "love the old school phone", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200941", "author": "golddigger", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T19:05:05", "content": "Slightly off topic, but does anyone know where I can find a class I laser range finder? I should add not the hand held size, I need a small setup. Thanks!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200944", "author": "Chaemelion", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T19:09:30", "content": "Well it works beautifully! Made myself one last night. Couldn’t find a single .22 uF cap in all the boxes of broken electronics I have, so I had to solder 2 #104 caps together. Awesome little device.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200977", "author": "Chajtek", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T20:44:01", "content": "J.D. hopefully not all readers on this forum are from US. Do you have blue-tooth headsets in US? It looks like they are against this regulation.There should be big distinction between doing thinks for fun with short range. In Europe as long as you are not making troubles it is OK. When you will start making them someone will knock your doors.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201244", "author": "zeropointmodule", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T10:27:11", "content": "in the uk they are totally illegal under the WTA 2006.i built a few of these many years ago, and they were never particularly stable leading to many problems.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201608", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T02:50:45", "content": "@JDThis secret microphone crap is basically kid stuff. Anyone trying to use this stuff for real is messed up; You know, unless it’s the government doing it.Wiretap laws are like sodomy laws – people that are gonna do it are gonna keep on doing it, and once in a while there will be an example made, but otherwise we’ve all long since forgotten what privacy was there for in the first place.But in the meantime, the 350 people on the planet with soldering irons who want to play with this stuff are unlikely to use it for more than a day or two. One or two guys or girls will be nuts enough to use it for stalking or spying on auditors, and they’ll get smacked for it.But as the Stazi learned, most people are really, really boring. Even dissidents. Building a transmitter is fun, but apart from lonely old guys with scanners, we don’t generally care about other people – half the time, I can’t be bothered to listen to people when they’re standing next to me, let alone want to listen to them when they’re away.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "2504555", "author": "android book", "timestamp": "2015-03-30T23:58:56", "content": "512 MB RAM is greater than many of the personal computers.We are going to add 3 new attributes to our Bright – Hub– Image element:. Monitoring of the conditions under which the guarantee is offered.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,351.709319
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/21/multiple-core-propeller-speeds-up-display-addressing/
Multiple Core Propeller Speeds Up Display Addressing
Mike Szczys
[ "Microcontrollers" ]
[ "cascading", "led", "module", "parallax", "propeller", "serial" ]
Th If you ever wondered what an eight-core Propeller processor can do for you, [Tom] found one answer. He’s using the multiple cores to individually address serial displays . He has six display modules, and each of them incorporate six 8×8 LED modules. This makes for a total of 2304 LEDs, and since they’re addressed by cascading serial data, that means 2304 bytes pushed to the display. You’re going to suffer from quite a bit of slow-down if you choose that communication method. This is where multiple-cores come in handy. Instead of cascading data between the six modules, he assigned a different core to each. Now he can concurrently address the six displays, reducing his serial data from 2304 bits per frame down to 384 bits per frame. As you can see in the video after the break, updating the display six times as fast as before yields fantastic results. Now what if you’re using a processor that has forty of these multi-core Propeller chips ? This does make us wonder, can’t the same thing be done on a single-core processor? An eight-bit device takes one cycle to set all eight bits on a single port. So why not just connect the six serial connections on six bits of the same port? Weigh in with your thoughts in the comments. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Q9hVrrLS4]
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[ { "comment_id": "200515", "author": "walt", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T19:05:50", "content": "that kicks ass!1st!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200532", "author": "bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T19:43:33", "content": "ahhh this setup will run smoother than a single core setup just because each individual screen recieves the full core but single core setup would yield similar results as stated in the article and would be more cost effective. so the choice should be made depending on the complexity of the images being processed and the budget.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200536", "author": "JB", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T19:44:46", "content": "Excellent! Thanks for the idea!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200539", "author": "Sprite_tm", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T19:50:26", "content": "It’s doable pretty easy with an 8-bit avr. Just store the bits interleaved in memory, so you can send them out as quickly as possible, one bit per LED-display. That makes the display-routine itself nice and snappy, and moves the task of interleaving the bytes to the routine that writes the display memory, which gets used a lot less. An AVR should be able to push that many bits just fine, for my own LED-display (http://spritesmods.com/?art=ledmatrix) I actually use grayscales, which means that the AVR needs to send the data at about ten times as fast as with just b/w, so driving 6 displays with it should be doable just fine.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200540", "author": "Sprite_tm", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T19:52:28", "content": "Ow, that ofcourse means that this board technically should be able to handle a grayscale image with just the single propeller-chip. I’d say there’s a challenge there :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200541", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T19:54:43", "content": "“that means 2304 bytes pushed to the display” then “serial data from 2304 bits per frame”So, is this a 8bpp 256-level PWM, or 1bpp monochrome display?(i know, its mono/1bpp)This is cool, can there be a demo with faster/smoother animation?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200554", "author": "Bill", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T20:21:55", "content": "This will come in handy when I finish off my cheap serial (or I2C) driven LED matrix drivers. I was thinking about how I could control multiple stacked rows to form a larger screen.http://www.billporter.info/arduquee-an-arduino-powered-marquee-design-log/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200606", "author": "localroger", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T22:09:58", "content": "While it could be done with a single core CPU, it’s not just about capability; it’s also about ease of programming. With the Propeller you can devote a core to each display and have two left over to do the animation and other I/O without fussing with interrupts and their overhead issues.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200625", "author": "Stefan Biereigel", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T23:35:42", "content": "Agreeing to HaD. To me this only is a real waste of effectiveness, you could’ve used the other 7 cores to calculate pi or do something sensible, but do not use six cores for toggling bits, that’s not what is the sense.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200645", "author": "error404", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T00:37:31", "content": "The display controller on those boards should run SPI at up to 1MHz according to the datasheet. If he can just send 2304 bits to update the display (there’s probably some command overhead, but…) he should be able to get several times 60fps using a single Cog to drive the whole cascade. Not fast enough?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200661", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T01:51:28", "content": "You can do this with a single chip processor, but it’s harder to do the first time. You need to write routines to convert images to raster streams, and 8 modules or 1 module is pretty much the same.Frame rate is the place where a multi-core solution should shine… The old 640 by 480 grey scale LCD displays were driven by a slow mcu with a lot of time to spare, and grey scale/color should be possible with multi-core.Programmer laziness is a virtue and a curse at the same time. The important thing is that he got it to work – everything else is improvement, and that’s boring and pointless.Well, at least it is if Windows 7 is anything to go by.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200668", "author": "Tom", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T02:22:46", "content": "Thanks HAD! and thanks for your comments guys. Some very good points being mentioned.Generating the font into the shadowmemory slows it down a bit so I may end up having to optimise the code to free up cores.Really happy with it so far being my first microcontroller project.Tom", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200675", "author": "Stefan", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T03:34:03", "content": "Addressing multiple serial devices is exactly what I’m doing with a Prop. Since it can set the entire 32-bit port with one op, I can update 30ish shift registers in 16 operations, using a single core. The problem then becomes getting that much data into the local memory.Unfortunately, soldering hundreds of RGB LEDs takes time, so I don’t have anything to show. I don’t even know if it will work yet!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200679", "author": "Drew", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T03:56:54", "content": "what’s with the random tooth brush in the pic?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200680", "author": "Fishebulb", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T04:04:40", "content": "@bilboa bobAgreed, I see this more as a proof of concept, trying out the hardware to see how it works. Cool demo, cool work by the author, he accomplished what he wanted to, and hopefully learned some things in the process.In true HaD tradition the “know it alls” (ie the “show nothings” come out in full force. I really wish the people that constantly complain about what others do, would instead invest their efforts to actually showing off their projects. If they had one that is.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200738", "author": "Grovenstien", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T08:47:26", "content": "Im looking to build my own LED video wall! Does anyone have any good links to places to start etc. from PWM for each diode right through to video wall processors? Cheers peeps!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200803", "author": "M4CGYV3R", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T12:10:17", "content": "8 cores on a single $7 chip – sounds pretty cost effective to me.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200811", "author": "Tweeks", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T13:10:57", "content": "Fredrik, a guy from our user group did this a year or two ago using a propeller with less core power and did a whole pong game:http://xcssa.org/photos/2008_XCSSA/video/10-20_DSCF2938.flv.htmlThe propeller is a very powerful little uC that’s multi-core design means that real-time programming can rely less on interrupts and more on delegated design. Pretty cool.Tweeks", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200813", "author": "michu", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T13:29:19", "content": "or you could use some rainbowduinos from seeedstudio, each one drive an 8×8 rgb led matrix and is adressable by i2c.I wrote also a processing lib, checkhttp://code.google.com/p/neorainbowduino/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200830", "author": "MoJo", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T14:35:55", "content": "I can’t see why SPI could not be used on an 8 bit AVR. I use it for generating a TV signal with a resolution of 384×240 and that wastes a lot of time with sync pulses and dead non-displayed areas. Refresh is 50Hz (PAL).Actually thanks to the SPI interface there is a lot of time left between sending bytes to do some processing, such as loading tiles from flash RAM (there is not enough SRAM for a bitmap) and generating some basic colour. Since the LED displays don’t need sync signals etc. you could drive them with the SPI interrupt and have the majority of CPU time available for the application.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200896", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T16:38:23", "content": "@fredrik –Sorry man, my personal project dev days are over, and the stuff I work on now is of the “Well, we can’t kill you, but you signed all this paperwork and we won’t renew your contract if you discuss it” variety that kills innovation. Sigh. But it’s worth it to get access to sexy technology toys.I hope I don’t come off as a “it’s been done” hater, when I’m really just a crank, or becoming one, anyway. There used to be guys who would hang around hot rod garages and do a valve job or some welding for free, and who had a lot to say. Ever see the movie “world’s fastest indian”? I’m that guy, but in electronics system design instead of motorcycle racing.These projects teach us a lot. I suggest that he look at prior work in display driving. If there’s anything I’ve learned of value, it’s that some dumb bastard already did what you want to do, and probably wrote about it.I’m serious – there is almost nothing you’ll think of that hasn’t been done, redone, reworked, redesigned and abandoned repeatedly in the last 30 years, if not 300 years.This used to drive me nuts. I once wrote some software that was (I thought) decades ahead of the literature and industry practices. I was proud of this, and the patent was going to be paid for by someone else. Then I discovered that the technique had been used and documented in the mid 1970s, and a long time after that, I discovered that some guy had done it in the late 1960’s – and done it in fortran.Now I believe that any solvable problem is solvable – if enough cumulative IQ is pointed at it. If you could see how fast and how far internet surveillance has come since 2005, you’d be amazed. Most of this is thanks to salaried guys at search engines, because they have the time to chew on it. It’s the same for this guy’s software drivers.HAD represents an enormous think-tank of experience and knowledge. Some of it is probably BS or useless, but in general, many hands and brains can improve the tech and solve complex problems. I think our posts should be an equal mix of “Have you considered?”, “I saw this done” and attaboys. I just wish the “it’s been done” guys would leave more details about the HOW, which is most useful for everyone else.I urge experimenters to try and constantly evolve their projects… and to leave behind breadcrumbs for others to follow.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "961681", "author": "Henri", "timestamp": "2013-02-18T06:17:33", "content": "Really kick ass", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/21/uv-eprom-eraser-in-a-toolbox/
UV EPROM Eraser In A Toolbox
Mike Szczys
[ "Tool Hacks" ]
[ "blacklight", "eprom", "eraser", "flourescent", "uvc" ]
[Devon Croy] belongs to a hackerspace that works hard to keep hardware from going to the landfill. He found they were in possession of over a hundred Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory chips (EPROM). Not to be confused with EEPROM, which are electronically erasable, these EPROM chips require a strong source of UV light to blank the old data before they can be written again. Instead of buying a tool to erase two or three chips at a time he built his own bulk EPROM eraser from an old metal toolbox. He used parts from a fluorescent black light and acquired a new bulb that generates light in the UVC spectrum, the band which works as an eraser for the chips. After bolting the parts into the case he added a spring-loaded timer knob and a safety switch that kills the power when the case is opened, similar to the UV exposure box we looked at yesterday. Of course, if you don’t need a bulk eraser you could shop some garage sales for a UV pacifier cleaner which can also erase EPROM chips .
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[ { "comment_id": "200503", "author": "Timmah", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T17:58:43", "content": "I applaud his desire to keep e-waste from going to the landfill, but whatever energy savings that results in ( by not having to buy a new equivalent ROM device ) is somewhat countered by the energy it takes to shine the UV light on those things to erase them.Plus, what’s your time worth ? Most people who know how to work on this stuff probably earn more per hour than to waste their time UV-ing / inserting / removing. But of course it’s his choice what he does with his time.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200507", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T18:15:17", "content": "Excellent, and I applaud resisting the urge to throw away all those windowed parts, as they have plenty of useful life in them.When I’m testing my hand written machine language, I find I often need to change all 256 bytes of available data in my solid-ceramic case 1702 EPROMS. This looks like just the thing!I cannot tell you how hard it is to truck my little mistakes down to the dentist to clear them using a goodly dose of X-rays, and then have to wait for hours while they bake in the oven to anneal the damage caused by the X-rays before I can put them in the programmer and have another go.Am I the only one that misses having to provide -12vdc or +25vdc to a part in order to program it? Why on earth would you want to throw away perfectly good EPROMS when the only alternatives are nearly free eeproms that are drop in replacements? :)I know the feeling, but it might be time to move on. The days of blow and go are past us – and I don’t miss them very much. However, kudos to the guys out there making it fly. More power to you.I hope that someone will post an article showing us how to wind core memory and access it with an arduino! 8 x 8 should be easy enough – you could store simple passwords in a way that would resist gamma rays.And if we could obtain enough mercury, we could build a mercury delay line memory device. And vacuum tubes! So much technology slated for the landfill waits for resurrection. Please, show us how to dig those old DTL and RTL logic cards out of landfills and connect them up.Nostalgia – it ain’t what it used to be!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200510", "author": "Gomiboy99", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T18:41:22", "content": "@Timmah,try and find a new eeprom to fit in a Commodore PET or a Rockwell AIM65.I am off to make one of these erasers so I can use my stock of TMS2532s.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200551", "author": "dcroy", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T20:12:13", "content": "@Timmah,there are alot of things like arcade and pinball machines that use eproms, even industrial equipment that has been running non stop for the last 30 years… sometimes they go bad but usually they just need to be erased and re written to and will last another 30 years no problemthere really is no need to replace them simply to save a bit of time in programming each chip when there are perfectly good ones already present, its rather wasteful for a one time convenience@bilbao bob,ive been fighting off a very strong urge to make core memory for some time now, i need to finish a dual 8 telecine project that has taken two years to finally near completion… i have a ton of old processors (8088, 6502, z80, m6800, m68000…) that i want to play with someday when i have the free time not tied up with a dozen or so projects in juggling around right now", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200553", "author": "DarkFader", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T20:18:47", "content": "I’d rather see a UV-laser that can erase single bits in a running system. But I guess the refraction of the glass could be an issue.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200573", "author": "Timmah", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T20:58:37", "content": "@bilbao – does your HMO cover the EPROM’s trips to the dentist ?@other posters: good point, I didn’t think about legacy hw. makes sense, although I’m surprised they don’t have pin-compatible eeprom replacements.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200581", "author": "dcroy", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T21:17:16", "content": "its hard to find parallel eeproms pin compatible for every eprom, the early ones especiallyits also hard to find parallel eeproms period, and getting parallel flash chips that are ttl compatible is a serious challenge, most 5v versions only come in tssop packaging requiring even more workall in all im very happy with how it turned out, a 30 dollar investment that ended in something that would have cost several hundred for a unit with comparable capacity", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200663", "author": "BlackCow", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T02:01:50", "content": "I am using 27SF512 electronically erasable PROMs in my current project. So much easier!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200664", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T02:06:53", "content": "@everyone“try and find a new eeprom to fit in a Commodore PET or a Rockwell AIM65.”2716 (2k x8) and newer all conformed (mostly) to jedec standard. You can generally substitute any JEDEC eeprom for any old school PROM/EPROM. You might have to bend/cut a pin or use a resistor to bring up a select line, but they’re drop-in replacements all the way back.By the time you’re back to 1702 era, you can burn a pic or avr or other micro and just emulate the damn thing in software. This is a little known way to add features to 70s vintage gear.Let’s say you have a ranging head off an old IR tracking… uh, lawn dart… and you find that crap 1960’s tech just isn’t cutting the mustard and you want to make it able to locate the smiling face of hello kitty, assuming the face of hello kitty is created using a modulated laser pointer. Well, you might need someway to replace the chopper mechanism with something a little less archaic. Electronics has come a long way since 1965, so …maybe – I’m sorry, I seem to have drifted back off topic again.You see, in those days, we hung an onion from our belts because that was the style of the times, and it had to be a white onion. Red onions were for commies.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200670", "author": "Abbott", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T02:36:42", "content": "@bilbao bobWhy are you so adamant about getting new parts? He found a bunch of old EPROM chips, and is actually making them work. There’s no sense in purchasing new chips when he already has a perfectly good solution. While he probably spent way more making the eraser, it’s a good tribute to the older technology, and a good thing to use to teach just how our technology has grown.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201013", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T21:56:47", "content": "Hey, Abbott… :)It’s all good. It’s just that when you add up the cost of waiting for them to burn clean… I spent my time smelling ozone (it should be obvious) while chips baked, and I applaud anything someone chooses to build.But it’s like putting a hand crank starter on your car – one day you decide that hand cranking died out for a good reason. I was the same way about toggle switches on computers, but one grows older and starts to think about time.My current project is a 1937 something or other, so I’m far from being able to criticize him. I’m just saying the burn/test/edit cycle is old school but ineffective.I think you miss my point – we can make it better/faster/bigger/stronger and have fun doing it. It’s fun to go one step past reuse and aim for recreation. Seriously, there’s a lot of room for people who build functional replacements for old electronic parts like EPROMs and NLA integrated circuits.I have boxes of formerly expensive parts. I will never burn another eprom or design a noiw defunct intel supercomputer into another system. I hate to admit it – given the choice between an arduino and a Rockwell AIM65, I’d now use the arduino.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201037", "author": "dcroy", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T22:34:50", "content": "I have to agree with taking the easy route for some projects, i went with a springwound timer simply because i didn’t feel like messing around with a micro controller and relay to turn the bulb on in timed intervalswe have a dirt packer that weights at least 4 tons beside the hackerspace that is missing a controller and i can guarantee i won’t be using a single eprom to get it runningbut building the tool so that i can use them at some point in time did seem like a good idea, maybe for some horrible project ill implement an 8 bit cpu in eproms or something challenging along those lines to keep my more dangerous ideas on the back burner (autonomous dirt packer anyone?)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201086", "author": "Rachel", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T01:05:36", "content": "Is the box grounded? It looks like the ground pin of the power cord socket is simply capped off with shrinktube, which seems silly given there are several perfectly good grounding points right next to it.Also, where did you get the UVC tube? I’ve only seen them selling for ridiculous prices.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201095", "author": "dcroy", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T01:53:54", "content": "no i didn’t ground the box, not yet anyways… i have a few minor adjustments to do with it stilli got the bulb from a friend who ordered some off ebay, a g15t8 bulb will run below 15 dollars plus shipping usually", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201454", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T19:44:53", "content": "@dcroy“So easy an arduino could do it”.Hang an arduino off that dirt packer using a couple of relays and have at it. There is nothing on any packaging equipment old enough to lack a controller that won’t be easy to get running.People make decent money retrofitting old controls, and it’s damnably easy if you watch out for safety issues (mechanical interference, operator safety, burning the place down) while doing the retrofit.Publish it as an article on HAD with VIDEO of the packer operating, and I’ll send you some lovely french pate that goes well with cheese and crackers… if you get it running by 1 JAN 2011.We should add a section called “So easy an arduino could do it” and fill that baby up.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201618", "author": "dcroy", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T03:35:04", "content": "unfortunately we are too busy getting our building in shape for the winter to get to the packer for awhile, and for reliability none of the electronics can be on the packer itself, originally all of it was in the controller, which we don’t even havethe vibrations from the engine just running are enough to not even think of having any critical electronics on board, we might end up getting a broken controller and going from thereright now our concerns are with our new building, a 14 by 70 foot trailer that currently needs a ton of work (electrical, plumbing, insulation, windows) it would be nice to work on the packer but nicer not for freeze our asses off working on it (already started snowing here)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202099", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T16:27:56", "content": "@RachelGrounding isn’t needed here, as the UV tube and timer mechanism are completely isolated from the case. It just happens to be a metal box.@dcroyGood luck beating the weather.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202355", "author": "Rachel", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T04:35:49", "content": "Grounding is definitely needed, for the same reason metal electrical boxes must be grounded: if a wire happens to come loose, it could touch the case and electrify it. It would need to be double insulated to be up to code if ungrounded. It only takes five minutes and a scrap of wire, so the only excuse is laziness (which is perfectly acceptable if you’re the one taking the risk).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202664", "author": "dcroy", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T18:50:29", "content": "im going to use the transformer casing as a ground point, ill scrape some paint off so it will ground the box at the same time… and add a fuse to it when i find a spare fuse holder in my pile of stuffon another note i used some really flexible wire rated at 600v 110c from an ancient crt to prevent fraying at the hinge, im not entirely sure how all the plastic coatings will hold up to that much uv exposure… time will tell i guessjust found a few 27c801 eproms in a piece of telecom equipment, i think ill build a snes devcart next", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "205936", "author": "Sonylization", "timestamp": "2010-10-31T20:48:41", "content": "Well, i really lol’:d at Hank’s coment on that one=) BUT, just use a filesystem that doesnt need defragging hehe", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/21/90-tb-drive-array-for-home-storage-needs/
90 TB Drive Array For Home Storage Needs
Mike Szczys
[ "computer hacks" ]
[ "array", "hard drive", "raid", "raid5", "raid5+0", "wd", "western digital" ]
Why store it in the cloud when you could have a 90 Terabyte hard drive ( translated ) array in your house? The drives are mostly Western Digital Caviar Green EARS 2TB models which are known for energy efficiency and quiet operation. It’s a little unclear as to whether this is using one or two motherboards, but the drives are connected using PCI RAID5 and RAID5+0 controller cards. There’s a total of 40 cooling fans built into the case, half on the bottom and the rest on the top. They move air up through the case, with plans to add a dust filter in the future. Heck, with that type of air movement you could throw on a standard furnace filter. Apparently it is quiet enough to talk in “almost a whisper” while next to the plywood monolith. But we’re a bit skeptical of that claim. It’s not quite as fancy looking as the 67 TB storage from last year … but it does look pretty easy to build at home. [Thanks Henrique via EnglishRussia ]
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[ { "comment_id": "200441", "author": "haku", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T15:28:44", "content": "I would be interested to know what the standby power draw was on that thing. I am guessing somewhere in the region of 300+ watts… (which is a lot to have on all the time)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200442", "author": "Chris", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T15:37:00", "content": "there’s $1000 worth of fans on that thing!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200446", "author": "onaclov2000", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T15:44:23", "content": "According to Giz, it’s only 70TB, who’s right….who’s right….we’ll find out after the jump.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200447", "author": "Scott", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T15:50:57", "content": "I have a (very) old IBM 20Mb(ooooh!!!) disk drive that I use as a paperweight. It reminds me of how fast storage capacity grows since there’s usually a 8Gb USB drive sitting near it.Any bets on the timeframe to see this lovely bit of homebrewed architecture in a monolithic device you can carry in your pocket?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200448", "author": "Paladin1966", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T15:54:19", "content": "Why store it on the cloud? Fire suppression systems, backup generators, the oil contract supplying them, the armed security guarding access to the NOC. There are more reasons, but those are sufficient for anyone doing anything significant with 90 TB of data.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "8108473", "author": "Fo Tek", "timestamp": "2025-03-13T01:48:58", "content": "hummm, 2025 now, that aged well :)", "parent_id": "200448", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "200449", "author": "Scott", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T15:55:34", "content": "By the way, could someone explain the odd habit of computer builders to use a bunch of tiny little fans rather than one big (cheaper/more efficient) one in a case big enough to use it?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200451", "author": "DJ Charlie", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T15:57:44", "content": "I still want to know how he’s chaining all those drives together.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200454", "author": "Jarrod", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:08:13", "content": "@onaclov2000: According to the everest dump on his site the total capacity is 91423Gb, which is technically 89.2Tb.The scary thing to me is that he has 14Tb free, the rest of the space is used up. Thats a ton of stuff he is storing on there.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200459", "author": "????", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:14:59", "content": "how much was everything??", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200462", "author": "djrussell", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:19:01", "content": "says right in the article it’s two mobos.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200464", "author": "Piku", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:26:24", "content": "The machine translation of the website is funny… Especially the comments:“Why sink, mother dear?”“at failure of any of the components (motherboard, controller) that at least a hand job to replace.”;-)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200467", "author": "Necromant", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:30:08", "content": "Whoah… Well, that’s a lot storage for pr0n.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200476", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:40:56", "content": "@scottInertia aka that’s the way we’ve always done it. It’s waaaaaay more efficient to use a big fan or two at slower RPM than it is to use a bunch of little fans. But little fans are cheap and plentiful, so people use them.Also, there’s a sort of area rule about how much air you can shovel through a tiny opening, and tiny openings are easier to find than large ones in most applications.It’s kinda like electrical wiring – before we realized that lots of outlets and big standardized circuits were the way to go, house wiring would often have just two little fuses that were expected to cover everything… or very ornate fuse boxes that had a bunch of 5 and 10 amp screw in style or cartridge fuses.In general, “that’s the way we’ve always done it” has a lot of benefits, even if “it’s the best way” isn’t one.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200478", "author": "pmow", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:43:17", "content": "I realize this is less DIY, but it seems getting a Blackblaze storage pad from protocase would be better for any type of application. And wouldn’t require two mobos.I don’t work for either company.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200479", "author": "thetruth", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:59:27", "content": "That’ll hold a lot of pron.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200480", "author": "RogueAngel2k.com", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T17:06:09", "content": "*drool*", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200483", "author": "ZomB Duk", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T17:24:44", "content": "Nice build but I really dig the wire soldiers!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200497", "author": "MrCung", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T17:28:51", "content": "Yeah the soldiers are awesome!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200498", "author": "tyco", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T17:40:38", "content": "Hope he ran a chassis ground wire to each of those hard drives, or the fellow lives in a very high-humidity and low esd environment…Plywood isn’t exactly the best ESD-preventing (or for that matter, EMI-preventing) case.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200499", "author": "tyco", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T17:47:16", "content": "I guess it doesn’t really matter; there are several pictures where he has hard drives just sitting out on carpet. Good thing this doesn’t have to meet FCC regs!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200500", "author": "Alan", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T17:55:24", "content": "Does it end up as one big lun anywhere?If all the adapter cards are in one box he could use LVM to stripe a single logical volume over the entire array. Hey-presto, storage visualisation.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200504", "author": "Truth", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T18:02:04", "content": "I think that the current rate of HDD data corruption from background cosmic ionizing radiation is around 1bit/TB/year (on average, different at the poles and magnetic weak spots). There is also silent bit rot – non comercial HDD’s are running at the edge of of what is currently possible. I personally would have went with a metal case and used ZFS1/ZFS2 for the filesystem/RAID to avoid data corruption/loss. Instead of RAID5 + RAID50 and Windows 2008R (I hope windows indexing is disabled). But I am still impressed, great build", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200505", "author": "6tbZFS", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T18:08:23", "content": "and the reason he didnt use ZFS was?!?!With ZFS, the file system and volume manager are not abstracted from each other (like pretty much every hardware/software raid setup), which brings about huge benefits (rebuilding for example, detecting silent coruption and fixing it on the fly).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200509", "author": "Gene", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T18:39:02", "content": "I don’t know if this relevant to his application, but one reason not to use the cloud is bandwidth. I imagine he can get multiple 100 MB/s from that thing – getting an internet connection that fast (if it’s even available in his locale) is going to be very expensive.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200511", "author": "Mike of England", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T18:43:08", "content": "How about 90 times them, and 90 PC’s for a Cluster?Running Linux Puppy on a Flash, of course:)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200514", "author": "Todd Grigsby", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T19:02:20", "content": "It has to be said: “On a clear disk, you can seek forever.” And on this baby that probably holds true.One thing I noticed is that, his enclosure being wood, it would therefore be naturally insulated. At first that seemed like a *really* bad idea, until it occurred to me that a vent structure could send all the heat out of the room. I didn’t see such a vent, but I assume that’s the case.And looking at the picture of all the disks and cables, it just all looks like toys to me. I’d have an AWESOME time putting that stuff together. Very cool project.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200542", "author": "M4CGYV3R", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T19:54:55", "content": "Dammit, stuck in a Wikipedia maze again. I click a link about RAID arrays, and then another, and another, and soon I’m on theoretical particle physics. Guess I’ll just have to read my way back out.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200568", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T20:39:36", "content": "@Gene The former eastblock as well as russia have the best internet these days, better than the US, check out various tables from speedtest research.For example:http://speedtest.net/global.phpNot that local storage solutions aren’t always faster.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200577", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T21:07:27", "content": "now he needs a room full of displays and to display all the images Intersect (from ‘CHUCK’) style", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200600", "author": "anon", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T21:44:57", "content": "Actual source website, with MUCH more detail:http://basanovich.livejournal.com/163813.htmlEverest (Russian) log of hardware internals:http://basik.ru/maxx/bas/gravicapa/report.txt", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200601", "author": "anon", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T21:49:53", "content": "(crap, ignore previous comment. Clearly I didn’t note the original site was linked already)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200641", "author": "justDIY", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T00:29:09", "content": "I hope that builder has better luck with his WD Green drives than I did … tried to build two 8TB servers using green drives, ended up tossing them all due to a glitch WD built into the drives, making them unsuitable for raid… google wd+green+tler", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200662", "author": "X", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T02:00:31", "content": "There are several things wrong with this setup.First off, with that many drives it’s pure insanity not to use RAID-60. Twice the performance and you can lose up to four drives without any data loss.Second, if he used multi-lane SAS controllers w/ expanders he could have saved the cost of several controllers and a motherboard while reducing power consumption and increasing performance (again).Third, the fan array is just painful to look at. He could have just used two box fans, (for redundancy :), and had better air-flow with less noise and MUCH lower cost.So yeah, it’s cute, and I hate to bag on something that somebody obviously spent a lot of time on, (definite hacker cred for the plywood! :), but there’s definitely some glaring deficiencies in this design. Maybe he’ll make some changes in the next version?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200669", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T02:24:18", "content": "Plywood is just the thing for ESD protection, especially in a reasonably humid environment. From a corrosion standpoint, maybe not so hot, but when you have big fans and decent grounding (exposed wire grounding to catch stray electrons), it’s OK.ZFS: Don’t get me started. Yes, it’s cool. You do NOT want a giant single volume, and if you don’t have a backup plan (and @90TB, you don’t) you’re just asking to get reamed. You will lose data by doing this, but go ahead, find out why all by yourself. Infinite Logical Volumes smell nice and all, but after getting nailed repeatedly by loss of 30 TB databases, I’ll leave it to the ZFS fan boys. Putting all your eggs in one basket is a bad idea, no matter how cool the ZFS feature set is.WD Green: If it says made in china, you have a >50% chance of death by mechanical failure. Look for OEM drives from any place but china. There’s a reason they’re so cheap – almost no Q/C at all. The most recent 1TB Green I purchased failed SMART for excessive write errors within 60 minutes of uptime. Seagate seems to be back to old tricks again, as well.Did you know that drive manufacturers turning out product in China bid your HDs out to the lowest bidders in batches of a few thousand? And the bids are awarded on price and price alone. Not a chance in hell for Deming’s methods when there is no accountability. If a drive manufacturer (OEM) screws someone, a new shell company forms to “do a better job”, at least until the check clears.That aside – if you’re a RAID believer, please buy your raid drives from different manufacturers and different vendors. Do not buy 8 drives from one batch of X, because MTBF is an imaginary number.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200691", "author": "mrb", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T05:23:23", "content": "bilbao bob: you are wrong. Oracle engineers RECOMMENDS to create one and only one volume.For example on their Sun Fire X4500 server, which hosts 48 drives in 4U, they recommend one 46-drive zpool for the data (plus a 2-drive zpool for the OS). I think you are confused by the difference between a raid group (in zfs terminology: top-level vdev) and a data volume (zpool). For example you certainly don’t want one large N-drive raidz (raid5) vdev because if 2 of the N drives are lost you lose data, but in zfs one zpool is made of multiple vdevs. For example to optimize my X4500 servers, I configured them with one 46-drive data zpool composed of three 15-drive raidz2 vdevs plus one spare drive.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200697", "author": "mrb", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T05:24:39", "content": "I meant to say:…to optimize $/GB on my X4500 servers…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200706", "author": "Davo1111", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T06:12:40", "content": "to be honest i think the backblaze design is cleaner, but cool none the less.http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200759", "author": "Sonylization", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T09:05:56", "content": "It seems to me that theres two motherboards… is that a second CPU i see on the left there? Hmm =)But thats one sexy piece of raid setup =D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200872", "author": "Anonymous", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T15:19:25", "content": "Cool Setup.I wouldn’t know what to do with all that disk space except downloading all films, software, ebooks and papers I could.It’s probably also handy to crack WPA passwords by using a gigantic 90Tb rainbow table", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200928", "author": "6tbZFS", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T18:00:40", "content": "ZFS fanboys?! its not like it comes in a shiny metal case with a fruit on it, give it some credit!how much of his 90tb actually ends up not-corrupted he will have no way of knowing or correcting, unless of course each of his files are MD5d and checked according everytime he reads the file…I wouldnt like to setup a storage solution, even for home use, using so many different raid cards / differing pci busses / multiple systems…Its not a contigous space as theres only a single gigabit between the machines?Might have to post up my 1/15th scale project of this, in smoked acrtylic.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200996", "author": "Terry", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T21:20:36", "content": "I have thought about using a furnace filter and making a closing cabinet for the three PCs I have in the basement. I can’t see why it wouldn’t be a great idea.Then, I’ve also thought of using an air filter from a car for an intake and maybe some sort of small muffler for an exhaust for airflow. They’re cheap, available all over the place and made for hot environments needing lots of forced air and some noise dampening.Can anyone school me on this being a bad idea?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201167", "author": "cantido", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T04:56:56", "content": "Bit of a shame that the wiring and air seem to consume >50% of the total space. With so many drives you would want to much sure you can rebuild the array if a few drives fail not just one or two. Anyone that has had a RAID5 with 4 disks knows that as soon as that one disk fails and you start rebuilding another disk is going to fail just to stop you doing a complete rebuild… Luckily with Linux’s MD arrays you can actually access data from a partial array, so not all is lost.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201217", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T08:19:47", "content": "The air filter idea rocks (hey use a K&N and wash it out!)The muffler…not so much.The point of the muffler is to reduce the noise of exhaust from an internal combustion engine while working out compromises for the flow of the gasses.You don’t have that noise to deal with so it you want the LOOK of a muffler you could go for something simulated or a real one cleared out of its baffles.A real muffler will be large and restrict air flow for your application I think.That is a heck of a lot of fans, but an awesome thing to be sure.I’d love to hear it spinning up.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201331", "author": "bsmulders", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T15:24:36", "content": "@ Jarrod, 91423Gb (gigabit) = 91.423 Tb (terabit). Which is the same as 83.15 tebibit. Get your units of measure straight.Tb = Terabit, TB = Terabyte, Tib = Tebibit, TiB = Tebibyte.1 TB = 1.000 GB = 931.3 GiB = 0.9095 TiB", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201345", "author": "Sonylization", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T15:44:49", "content": "Hmmm… Id go with à 1×1 meter fan(or 2) for a better flow and lesser noise.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201390", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T17:04:31", "content": "@MRB – Oracle recommends this because it simplifies THEIR support of your database. Backup, data loss, all that annoying little real world stuff is your problem. And in general, until you get to RAID-10 and transactional backups, you’re not even close to protected. LVM is a grand idea, but it has real world consequences. When you move to LVM environments, your ability to recover useful data from partial drive recoveries drops to zero. But maybe all the anecdotal evidence I hear about from the IT guys at investment houses and research labs is FUD.I’ll just say this: A lot of people have mistaken impressive conceptual promises for real world guarantees, and been bitten hard. Wanna know where all those scanned mortgage documents a certain BOA constrictor can no longer find went after the merger and data migration? I’ll give you a hint: When you don’t test your ability to restore data, you don’t actually HAVE the ability to restore data. As they say, quod erat demonstrandum.@guy who wanted a mufflerWhat you want is a baffle, not a muffle. You can probably do it by trial and error. Your goal is to just silence the noise of the fans. The bad news is that doing this “right” requires a lot of calculation. However, you can fake it by leaving an open area at the end of the box, and then building 3 movable dividers that take up 60-75% of the height of the box and stagger them.If you simply move them back and forth, and try it, you can empirically get to the right positions.I wish I could draw a sketch for you, but just google “audio baffle” and you’ll get the idea. All you need to do is make it hard for the sound waves from the fans to get out by setting up a standing wave to cancel out the frequencies of the fans. You could calculate this by using an audio spectrum analyzer to figure out the primary signals (and maybe a harmonic or two), then do a little math to come up with the wavelengths, and so forth.This is too much work for the backyard experimenter, so just move the baffles around until it gets quieter. If you’re not comfortable with using 60-75% partitions, you can also drill small holes in the baffles and make them full height. Make sure the holes don’t line up. The hole method isn’t great for temperature reduction, because it destroys any hope for laminar flow.You can pack way more baffles in if you limit the redirection of the air flow angle to ~16% at a time – and if you have the room to use curves, you can do a great job killing noise. This is all the rage in the door-less bathroom designs found in public places (the ones where they do it right), but… acoustic engineering is a big topic.I’ve seen plexiglass panels used in baffles with good success if they are mounted in a frame using a flexible weatherstrip or gasket… perfect for angry screaming monkeys, or small children who are crashing from a sugar high.Finally, you can absorb some high frequency noise (from drives, for example) by using rubber or flex compounds to provide mechanical isolation. It makes a huge difference! If you cover the baffles with acoustic foam or even neoprene (the material they use in wet suits), you can pretty much treat the unit as being silent.Good luck!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202553", "author": "Sigg3", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T14:32:44", "content": "> bilbao bob: I’ve seen plexiglass panels used> in baffles with good success if they are> mounted in a frame using a flexible> weatherstrip or gasket… perfect for angry> screaming monkeys, or small children who are> crashing from a sugar high.Dad, is that you?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "205905", "author": "Henk", "timestamp": "2010-10-31T18:38:50", "content": "Defrag that, bitch xD", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "271936", "author": "Liz", "timestamp": "2010-12-08T08:11:01", "content": "Nice!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "285346", "author": "Eric", "timestamp": "2010-12-17T09:27:21", "content": "chkdsk /x", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,352.318667
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/21/crash-space-takes-on-the-machine/
Crash Space Takes On The Machine
Jakob Griffith
[ "digital audio hacks" ]
[ "building", "crash space", "distance", "hackerspace", "music", "play", "scion", "sound", "take on th machine" ]
It’s that time again, time to take on the machine with the Hackerspace, Crash Space (and part two )! The team of Californians set out and successfully turned the front of their building into a musical instrument, similar to [David Byrne’s] Playing the Building . When a pedestrian walks by they set off distance sensors, which in turn actuate mallets that strike particular objects to produce a tone. We were pleasantly surprised at how interactive the installation was, even if it didn’t sound that great. But will it be enough to beat out the previous two teams? And how will it do up against Artisans Asylum’s not what you’re thinking Breakfast Machine next time? [thanks Deven]
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[ { "comment_id": "200424", "author": "Derek", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T14:01:27", "content": "The Family Guy clip is gold. The only cartoon that made me laugh harder than that did was the Beavis and Butt-head episode “Nosebleed”.Of course, half of the fun of watching Nosebleed the first time was my brother recovering from an appendectomy and trying unsuccessfully not to laugh.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200453", "author": "mick", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:06:50", "content": "are the videos not working for anyone else?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200472", "author": "AdoZ", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:37:11", "content": "Videos don’t work for me either. Ultimately displays message to the effect that the video/file wasn’t found.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200482", "author": "d3c4f", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T17:14:52", "content": "Looks like they are working again.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200524", "author": "therian", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T19:10:59", "content": "sound like dunk masturbating in beer factory", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201104", "author": "Jake", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T02:15:04", "content": "I’m watching the first video and wondering why there are so many circus freaks in it… Then I realize they are from California. LOL, mystery solved!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,352.421889
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/20/avr-dds-signal-generator-improvements/
AVR DDS Signal Generator Improvements
Mike Szczys
[ "Tool Hacks" ]
[ "AVR", "dds", "function generator", "pcb", "signal generator" ]
[Vassilis Papanikolaou] took a good thing and made it better with some design upgrades to this AVR based signal generator . We looked at version 1.0 of this tool back in 2006 and since then it saw an upgrade to 2.0 . But [Vassilis] wanted to take things one step further, with a compact single-sided PCB. What you see above is the beautiful result of his work; a professionally made board that is compact, uses through-hole components, and has zero wire jumpers. If you want to build one for yourself there’s a great parts list as well as board artwork and schematic. The system uses an ATmega16 so you’ll need a way to program one. There’s also just a bit of firmware tweaking to remap the control buttons to match the updated hardware layout.
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[ { "comment_id": "200229", "author": "Trollicus", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T00:42:15", "content": "Hey, nice work!!I think one of these will be on my bench soon.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200248", "author": "mess_maker", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T01:13:53", "content": "Very cool project… too bad I just bought a function generator a few days ago. Would still be a great project to play with.It would make a great Christmas gift for my brothers, especially with a super probe.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200256", "author": "AtomicZombie", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T01:35:56", "content": "Excellent project.Brad", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200308", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T04:22:33", "content": "I know how hard it is to do single-sided layouts when complexity increases. So for that alone, I award you hacker cred!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200316", "author": "egasimus", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T05:03:12", "content": "great! will make it some day (:", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200323", "author": "Vassilis Papanikolaou", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T05:25:00", "content": "Thanks for posting ! The PCB is exactly half of the standard 160×100 factory panel. So I have one left to give away :) Anybody interested ?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200343", "author": "Alex G", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T07:04:45", "content": "Hey i was just about to ask if there was just the PCB to purchase then i could populate it myself since i lack the materials to etch one myself. Vassillies if the offer still stands send me an emailevlspcmk@gmail.comil be happy to pay of course", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200372", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T08:08:02", "content": "Super nice work!Very clean!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200385", "author": "makis", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T10:07:09", "content": "Good job Vassilis!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200529", "author": "Jake", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T19:24:36", "content": "Implement the whole thing in SMT! Through-hole is old hat!!! (Plus, SMT soldering is twice as fast, or more):D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201447", "author": "Vassilis Papanikolaou", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T19:11:34", "content": "In this particular design, it seems that SMD wouldn’t save much space ! Moreover, it would be more difficult for the average hobbyist to replicate.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,352.231781
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/20/building-a-uv-exposure-box/
Building A UV Exposure Box
Mike Szczys
[ "Tool Hacks" ]
[ "exposure", "pcb", "resist", "ultraviolet", "uv" ]
There are two methods of using etchant resist when making circuit boards. We use the toner transfer method that requires ironing on laser toner to the copper, but you can also use chemical resist that reacts to ultraviolet light. [Bogdan] decided to start doing more of the latter so he built a UV exposure box to make the process easier. It is possible to use flourescent light bulbs for this, but he decided to use UV LEDs, a method we’ve also seen before . But there’s always room to innovate, and [Bogdan] built-in a couple of nice features that are new to us. Because the UV light can be bad for your eyes, he included a set of red visible-light LEDs on the bottom half of the box that are used to align two layers of exposure mask when making double-sided boards. There’s also a switch that automatically shuts off the UV light when the box is opened. And as the coup-de-grace, he added a programmable timer to regulate the exposure , using his newly created box when etching the PCB for it.
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[ { "comment_id": "200153", "author": "Stu", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T21:16:14", "content": "I made one of these too, out of an old flatbed scanner body, aluminium foil lined on the inside, with two 4Watt insect killer uv lamps, a lot safer on the eyes and skin. The lamps were on special offer too, 2 for 1, both cost only 13quid!I’m achieving very fine traces using uv sensitive copper board after 15mins exposure, could probably cut that time down too.The same shop I bought the uv lamps (Maplins) also sell proper uv exposure boxes, upwards of £135!!! Saved a bomb.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200163", "author": "macw", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T21:40:35", "content": "come on, guys — you should know it’s “fluorescent”. I am this close to writing a little greasemonkey script to automatically replace all instances of “flourescent” because it bugs me so much :P", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200165", "author": "waffles", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T21:47:01", "content": "this would be good for screen printing. I have another use for this to. thanks for posting. you could also use reptile flourescent lights. they come in several differant spectrums, would be worth experimenting", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200186", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T22:05:49", "content": "15 minutes? I built a box almost exactly like the one in this pulse and it only requires 1 minute. Those UV LED’s are a surprisingly good solution and you can buy them in bulk cheaply on ebay. My box cost me about $20-30 total", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200187", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T22:06:45", "content": "*pulse=post. Gah! HAD why won’t you allow post editing!?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200200", "author": "Tom", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T22:49:49", "content": "$10 facial tanning lamp (4x UV tubes) works great.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200212", "author": "aaron", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T23:37:33", "content": "drill a hole at each end so you can insert clear piping and it could double as part of a portable water purifying system.. for when you are not being a mad scientist of course..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200213", "author": "Philippe", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T23:42:51", "content": "I always wince when anglophones use French to sound smarter… and fail because they do it wrong.Coup de grâce (note the â) means “merciful blow”, the one, given by the executioner, that finally brings death after the condemned has suffered enough on the wheel. As you can see, it’s an expression with a pretty sinister origin.Is that what you meant? I didn’t think so.So, on a lighter note, if you meant the cherry on the sundae, it’s “la cerise sur le gâteau”.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200220", "author": "DA", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T00:07:32", "content": "> I always wince when anglophones use French to sound smarter… and fail because they do it wrong.> Posted at 4:42 pm on Oct 20th, 2010 by PhilippeFrançais râleur!!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200251", "author": "absolutezero", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T01:18:38", "content": "What photoresist products do you use with an exposure box such as this? The pre-treated PCBs seem to be a bit on the pricey side and the only spray I can find looks to be $40 per can. I find plenty of info on people building lightboxes, but don’t see much dealing with making or applying photoresist. A lot of the sites show a photoresist film that requires a laminator.I’m pretty sure the local office store can make a print that would work for toner transfer. What is the benefit of the uv exposure method over toner transfer?I have enough UV LEDs in order to construct a box, but I also own an iron. Its really a toss-up for me without having more information on the photoresist end.Would a UV box such as this be a good solution for exposing silk screens?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200257", "author": "bobdole", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T01:38:45", "content": "UV LED’s are usually in the range of 405 nanometers or so, which isn’t even really technically ultaviolet. It’s a bit of a stretch to even call it UVA.Most etching boxes use industrial grade UVC lights, which DO cause cancer, and you DO want to shield yourself from.UV LED’s are less dangerous than a black light, wood’s glass peaks somewhere around 380nm. You can take off your welding glasses and SPF100 sunscreen, those LED’s aren’t going to hurt you. It’s not until you encounter light in the sub-200-nanometer range that you have to worry about cancer.absolutezero: I was under the impression that most silkscreening masks were *light*-sensitive, not necessarily just UV. I recall a girlfriend of mine doing some silkscreening stuff for a university art course, and I’m pretty sure she just used a 100W incandescent bulb. I’m not sure you need UV light for most silkscreening stuff. I’ll agree though, all things considered, that using the toner-transfer method is easier and more straightforward. Unless you’re planning on making hundreds or thousands of boards at a time, I wouldn’t bother with photo etching.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200291", "author": "macw", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T03:16:39", "content": "@aaron — it’s not the right wavelength. Germicidal UV lamps operate around 254nm, while these LEDs would be in the 380-410nm range. As far as I know, LEDs in that deep UV range have a very short lifetime and cost hundreds of dollars each…all current systems use a mercury-vapor tube.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200302", "author": "Philippe", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T03:55:11", "content": "@DA ah, mais je t’emmerde !", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200310", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T04:31:52", "content": "@absolutezero:I get boards that are pre-coated with a positive photoresist from MG Chemicals. Less work that way, even though it is less DIY. The overall cost savings isn’t quite as much over a cheap prototype service like BatchPCB when you have to buy pre-sensitized boards, but the satisfaction you get doing it yourself is definitely worth it. And the turnaround time is an hour, instead of weeks.As for the advantage over the toner transfer method, it’s all about precision. The more precise you can etch the copper, the tighter trace widths and spacings you can get. I can get down to 5-10 mil consistently with the UV exposure method.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200379", "author": "threepointone", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T08:55:39", "content": "guys, rtfm or insert other phrase heremercury vapor lamps are 350-400nm, so UV LEDs are well within the range of most photoresist cures. the problem with UV LEDs is simply that they cost a shitton for the little amount of UV they put out. UV blacklights are far cheaper for the power you’re getting for this application, even if they don’t sound as cool (which is the only reason anyone wants to do LEDs)the bigger problem, which i’ve seen in almost all exposure boxes, is the lack of collimation. the light coming out of most exposure boxes here is not well collimated at all–the LEDs spew light out at a crapton of angles. what does that mean? suppose you have a ray of light going at 45 degrees from the normal, which is very reasonable (at these distances, it’s probably even worse). your photoresist thickness is 1-2mil, so you easily get 1-2 mil undercutting on both sides of a traces. 8 mil becomes 4 mil–good luck with that. and it’s probably worse than that in real life. . .really, just build one of these:http://www.thinktink.com/stack/volumes/voliii/equipment/uvlamp/uvlamp.htmthese guys have been around forever, and are pretty darn legit.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200393", "author": "nfs", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T11:36:32", "content": "“3A protection diode”You realize that the max LM317 can handle is 1A and when theres 1A current running through it its already unstable so lets say ~800mA.And not to mention that this is not real UV.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200436", "author": "djrussell", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T15:11:24", "content": "could also be used to test the UV stability of materials. how long will it take for x material to turn yellow?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200438", "author": "erksome", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T15:18:02", "content": "I wonder if this would be good for explosing cyanotypes and other alternative photography. There are different optimal wavelengths for different processes and I wonder if the UV LEDs may have too narrow a wavelength range for being a good general solution…?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200445", "author": "IsotopeJ", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T15:42:23", "content": "@threepointone, LEDs usually have fairly narrow viewing angles, and most light comes straight out, not at a “crapton of angles” so actually LEDs are fairly well suited for this application. ( I didn’t even know you could get 140-degree UV leds, so maybe undercutting is a problem here.)Incidentally, if you do use narrow angle LEDs the light tends to focus in a bunch of circles, so you need to have a good distribution of bulbs as well as make sure you have enough distance between the LEDs and the exposure surface.I made a box just like this, with 22-degree bulbs and a depth of about 10″ so the light hitting the glass at the top is pretty even.With 90 410nm leds in an 8×10″ area I can expose silkscreens in 10 mins. It’s my understanding that visible light won’t cure screenprinting emulsion. I still haven’t tried PCBs yet.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200452", "author": "Noobius", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:06:17", "content": "@nfs““3A protection diode”You realize that the max LM317 can handle is 1A and when theres 1A current running through it its already unstable so lets say ~800mA.”Maybe you should read up on how diodes work. If it’s a 3 amp diode that means that the max forward continuous current it can handle is 3 amps. It isn’t there to limit current. It’s there to protect the LM317 from negative voltage on the input.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200456", "author": "bogdan", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:09:39", "content": "@absolutezeroI use pre-sensitized boards because using spray on lacquer is just too complicated: it smells, you have to let it dry, keep it dust free, do special moves to get a uniform thickness. I did start using spray, it was called POSITIV 20. But it expired before i got the chance to finish it and i only found out when the board didn’t come out right. For such small scale the cost difference is worth the trouble.@hreepointoneI have not noticed any undercutting, though i only made a couple of boards with 10mil tracks. I might check that in the future. What would you suggest as a collimator?As for your suggestion of 18″ tubes. It defies my needs and purpose: small compact box. Of course it is cheaper to make with tubes. you just can’t make it so small(ok, maybe you could if you could source 2W UV tubes, which i couldn’t).@nfs maybe you should read the data sheet of the LM317 better. Short answer: it can handle 1.5A. and it is stable at such current if you use it right. The whole box consumes about 1.2A. That three amp diode is the next larger thing i had after 1n4007.UV light is below 400nm. The leds i use have a peak wavelength at 405nm. It’s safe to say half of the energy they put out is below 405(almost all UV) and half is above, which is visible.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200458", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:14:53", "content": "@phillipe – tous le monde était interresser de connaitre… well, in english… You’re bent out of shape because the guy didn’t bother to add a circumflex? Or because he used the english spelling of grace instead of writing gras as many americans do? Heh.I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but your mastery of english idioms and colloquialisms is weak – it’s been common for americans to use this phrase to describe “the best feature/attribute/point” since the 1950’s, and possibly long before that. We usually use it as a synonym for the word “killer”, which shows our culture in an interesting light.Is it the same usage as a native french speaker? No. But I suspect that your suggested phrase “The cherry on the top” fell out of favor circa 1960, having been used for roughly 80 years.Languages are living things; therefore, y’all aint got no reason to be hatin on the boy’s grammar, ma petite ami. :)And yeah, it’s like that.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200469", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:33:46", "content": "@threepointoneThis guy knows what he’s talking about.Little boxes like these are OK for one-offs, but diffusion will increase problems with narrow traces if you’re doing really narrow traces for surface mount and then etching – especially if the UV exposure was weak.Old bulb based tanning lamps work pretty well, if you keep a fan on them to keep the heat down and use very thin glass to hold down the artwork. You can set them 6-12″ above the pcb.PS – An industrial wand style “personal massager” set on jack-hammer mode will do an excellent job of agitating a tray full of etchant. I always meant to try an ultrasonic etchant tray but never got around to building one.I still remember building a hundred and fifty or so populated PC boards by hand as a kid – from bulk pcb material to test. It was a Tom Sawyer thing, with friends coming over to do the work.Got them done in a weekend, and I suspect the combined Etchant/Lead/plastic fumes caused permanent damage.They looked like south china specials, and since I didn’t understand through hole technology or proper bit sizing, I used big drill bits and then used solder – lots and lots of solder – to fill the gaps. Awful, but they worked.The day I cashed a check for a week’s work that was more than both my parents had made in three months was the day that I decided to become a tech whore. I’m a little played out, but my clientele likes that kind of rough experience. Luckily I have a great Pimp. :)Don’t do drugs!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200471", "author": "Tom", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:35:59", "content": "@bilbao bobAre you trolling? We all know that Americans exist only to destroy other languages and pass it off as acceptable with the strange argument you just used.I offer a counter argument to the mass stupidity and ignorance, read on…‘coup-de-grace’ already has a fine meaning, don’t add another one. Just choose an arbitrary string of letters you can pronounce.If phillipe is a native French speaker, or indeed has any grasp on the French language, I’d say he has more than enough reason to call out terrible use of ‘coup-de-grace’, like here in this article.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200527", "author": "tim", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T19:19:19", "content": "i am a native french speaking, and i confirm, it is perfectly ok to use “coup de grâce” here. Even if this sentence is “tombée en désuétude” because we have abolished death penalty a long time ago, it is still used in this exact context.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200898", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T17:00:01", "content": "@Tom“`coup-de-grace’ already has a fine meaning, don’t add another one. Just choose an arbitrary string of letters you can pronounce.”I say, Tom, do you study a lot of linguistics? :)If you can figure out how to stop adoption, borrowing and modification of meaning within host languages, you’ll be eligible for the Nobel prize, or at least honorable mention by L’Académie française They’ve been fighting it for a while with no luck.The french word for idiom is basically “idiotism”, and that’s what those little catch phrases are. If you want that kind of precise definition, you’ll need to use a dead language, like latin. And even latin continues to morph – not as quickly as living languages, but there have been shifts over the last 200 years as we lose the context those languages were used in.Even programming languages shift.Look at BASIC.Things change along with society.Skipping words like Freedom or Liberty, let’s look at the word “punk”. Do you think anybody who called themselves a punk circa 1977 knew that 40 years earlier it generally meant “young gay prostitute”? Ya wanna see some action? Indeed.Or the french word for hospital, which is pretty much like the anglo word, except that the S fell off a truck some centuries ago and was replaced by a circonflex that was hanging around. It used to mean a place where you could go to die and receive a bit of random attention, if you had money, but now it means… well, maybe that’s not the best example.I speak french, but generally in the context of picking up girls and arguing politics. I cannot offer definitive proof, but I have heard this phrase used to describe something cool in this exact manner by french people.I mean, at some point you have to allow that the phrase “Spanking the monkey” has nothing to do with monkeys or spanking.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201105", "author": "Garbz", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T02:18:11", "content": "I like the idea here, and to all those people complaining about the definition of UV or the wavelengths, who cares? This box serves a purpose to expose PCBs, and having used these LEDs for photo resist PCBs myself it works very well.One thing about the diffuse lighting though, it does create a problem for small traces. You can use a grid made of densely packed black straws cut about 50mm long to “collimate” the light. Ok so it’s not really collimated but it does actually do a very fine job at decreasing stray light and making the rays hit the board perpendicularly.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202107", "author": "bogdan", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T17:16:30", "content": "@Garbz, you made a good point, and in the end that was my requirement too, to make a pcb exposure box.35mm straws are not that ok for me, i’ve only got 35mm between the tip of the led and the board surface, but i will think of a way and do a test. it would be best to compare.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "298745", "author": "Jawa.jay", "timestamp": "2011-01-07T23:17:14", "content": "I want to make a UV LED exposure box for testing UV exposure on cultural materials (museum collections). I am looking for 340nm UV LEDs. Anyone know of a source?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,352.486709
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/20/waterproof-diy-momentary-push-switch/
Waterproof DIY Momentary-push Switch
Mike Szczys
[ "Peripherals Hacks" ]
[ "button", "copper foil", "momentary push", "paintball", "scope", "switch" ]
[Patman2700] has a nice scope for his paintball gun that uses a red dot instead of cross-hairs. The problem is that he kept forgetting to turn it off which ended up running the batteries down frequently. His solution to the problem was to get rid of the toggle switch used to turn it on and replace it will a home-made momentary push button switch . Now he presses the switch to aim and doesn’t waste juice when he’s running around, trying not to get pelted with paint. Since this is used outside he wanted it to be water-tight. The switch is built using materials we’ve seen in previous diy switches ; adhesive-backed copper sheets for conductors, foam to keep them separated until pressed, and plastic as a support. Copper is applied to the plastic base, with a ring of foam separating the base from the second layer of copper. When squeezed, the two layers of copper come in contact to complete the circuit. To make it work a bit better [Patman2700] added a dab of solder in the center of the bottom copper layer so there is less distance between conductors, and used extra foam to build up a bump in the center of the assembly for a better ‘button’ feel. The whole thing is encased in shrink-wrap with the seams sealed with super glue to keep moisture at bay.
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[ { "comment_id": "200078", "author": "jmlb", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T19:42:19", "content": "isn’t shrink wrap something they use to wrap shipments. It kinda looks like sarand wrap.This looks more like a heat shrink tube.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200079", "author": "jmlb", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T19:43:22", "content": "more like saran wrap sorry", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200109", "author": "spiderwebby", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:21:33", "content": "heatshrink anybody?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200114", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:24:31", "content": "i like reflex sites … i never found a need to turn mine off tho the one on my ak74 has a 72 hour battery life and charges in 15 minutes XD(before any one wants to troll yes i said ak74 not ak47 look it up)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200122", "author": "patman2700", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:41:12", "content": "@biozzThe only problem is forgetting to turn it off when you put it away. >.<", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200123", "author": "HickHackerz", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:41:21", "content": "Why not tie this to the safety switch. Using an Emarker would have made this mod simple, tie right into the Emarkers power…oh wait your using a tippA5…no fancy features", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200134", "author": "Gdogg", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:58:47", "content": "Too bad red dot sights are useless on paintball guns.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200135", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:58:59", "content": "Once again, I must speak of the true defensive abilities of the ice cream sundae.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200203", "author": "Ryan", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T23:02:22", "content": "Oooh! I have a reflex sight for my Sig 556, and I lost the rubber cover for it. Normally thats not important, but the sight is light activated (and responds to different levels of light) meaning there is NO off switch!100% doing this in the next few days!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200207", "author": "jkent", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T23:16:35", "content": "I’ve been messing with “Plasti Dip” lately; I think this stuff would do this job very very nicely… I had a flash drive laying around that long since lost it’s case, 3 coats of the stuff and I get this:http://kthx.ath.cx/~jkent/images/random/plastidip/IMG_0603.JPGIts flexable and strechy after it dries/cures.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200211", "author": "James", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T23:30:51", "content": "All the paintball markers I’ve used have been so horrifically inaccurate due to the ball aerodynamics that any form of sight is utterly pointless, it’s +- 2ft at any range > 15ft.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200218", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T00:04:07", "content": "@Gdoggi never understood sights on toy guns there ranges are extremely limited and simple iron sights can do it fine even for quick pulls … i don’t even use sites on my handguns or ever had a need to XD", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200219", "author": "Gdogg", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T00:07:14", "content": "@biozz I used to be nuts about sights and wanted to be a paintball ‘sniper’. Even had a red dot (and even had problems with it being left on).When I got more serious I realize how unnecessary it is. Professsionals line up with the side of the gun/follow the path of the balls (since they shoot 15bps) like a tracer. It’s crazy how accurate you can be with practice though", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200284", "author": "mattd", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T02:45:47", "content": "$5 for an NcStar “pressure switch for red lasers” on Amazon gives you all the basics for cheap – just splice it in.If you’re not feeling the DIY spirit that is.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200364", "author": "echodelta", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T07:47:03", "content": "Use a real switch, preferably a microswitch with click feel. Copper and solder make poor contacts and the sweat of hands will get to it before WX. What powers the laser? Tablet cells or a hamster wheel? Any combat worthy power should hold up for hours, or be behind the trigger-light pull.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200374", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T08:11:27", "content": "Super glue is not a good choice for this because it is not flexible.The join will eventually crack with flexing of the tube and allow moisture in.Still a pretty cool build, it’s just a matter of slight refinement.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200419", "author": "patman2700", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T13:41:29", "content": "@GdoggThis is often true, unfortunately. The problem that too many people oversee is that the most important aspect of a paintball setup is the paint/barrel match. Though paintballs are .68 caliber, there is a MAJOR difference between manufacturers. (i.e. .684, .682, .685, etc.) This leads to either the ball bouncing around the barrel on its way out, or a lot of broken paint coming out the end.The rub lies in paint selection. Try a variety of manufactures’ paint, dropping one by one down the (detached) barrel. If it simply falls through, it’s too small. If you cant get it through, it’s too large. You should be able to get it through by softly blowing through the barrel.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200421", "author": "patman2700", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T13:47:03", "content": "@echodeltaIt’s powered by a button-cell. This is how virtually all red-dot sights of this price range are powered (you’d have noticed it if you read the instructable ;) )Don’t forget, the dot should turn on BEFORE the trigger is pulled, to be able to line up the shot.Also, if you were to use a microswitch, then a) it would be even MORE susceptible to sweat and dirt, and b) the copper contacts are sealed inside a length of heatshrink tubing. It’s watertight.The problem with battery life (as I mentioned above) is that I’d forget to turn it off when either between games or putting it away. Sure, the battery may last 10 hours+, but not 48 hours+.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200422", "author": "patman2700", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T13:52:42", "content": "@mattdAbsolutely! Then again, if you _can_ and want it _now_, a week’s ship time is just too long a wait! :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200513", "author": "Spork", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T18:57:26", "content": "@patman2700Nice work, just some constructive criticism:I would have used epoxy, plasti-dip or similar to seal it instead of superglue based on years of using superglue for the wrong purpose (it’s made for cuts and works great for that!). I would also stay away from copper and solder switches, try plating the copper with silver and then reducing the thickness of the foam to get a nice reactive switch that won’t easily wear/corrode.Also,I think echodelta meant using a microswitch inside heatshrink like you did. That said, ALL switches are prone to failure. So I don’t think either option is much better/worse.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200727", "author": "patman2700", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T07:23:04", "content": "@SporkYou’re absolutely right about the super glue. Lemme edit the Instructable to recommend something else.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201358", "author": "draeath", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T16:16:54", "content": "@patman2700Earlier, in reply to Mr. AK74, you said that forgetting to turn it off was the problem.Well, that isn’t a paintball gun, you should treat that more carefully… lest you forget to unload and clear the chamber the next time you clean it!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202012", "author": "Agent420", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T13:53:10", "content": "A better way to go would be to use cheap simple encapsulated reed switch with an external magnet trigger button.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,352.550452
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/20/rodent-based-power-generation/
Rodent-based Power Generation
Mike Szczys
[ "Misc Hacks" ]
[ "alternator", "bicycle computer", "coil", "hamster", "induction", "magnets", "rare-earth" ]
Your hamster lives to good life, with food delivery and a maid service that cleans up after him. [DanF] helped to brighten up this hamster’s life even more by improving its exercise equipment and giving it a small night-light as well. This project adds a low RPM alternator to the hamster wheel . The first part of the process was to reduce energy lost to friction by fitting the wheel with a bearing. From there a ring of permanent magnets was added which will pass by a stationary coil and induce a current. It works, but unfortunately there’s not enough power generated to charge a battery. That means the light is only on when the hamster is running. But maybe you can figure out a way to use a super-capacitor like we saw in that exercise bike hack . One nice finishing touch to the setup is a bicycle computer to track how much time was sent on the wheel, and the distance traveled. [Thanks Dizzy]
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[ { "comment_id": "200029", "author": "RogueAngel2k.com", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:21:13", "content": "that was removed from a Prius, right?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200032", "author": "net", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:22:37", "content": "One step closer to my hamster powered computer.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200033", "author": "spiritplumber", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:22:46", "content": "Kids Next Door Rule!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200041", "author": "Mr Hacker", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:31:25", "content": "is that nasa’s rodent propulsion lab", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200043", "author": "Kelly", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:40:34", "content": "Sounds like a good time to employ a “joule theif” circuithttp://www.bigclive.com/joule.htm", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200051", "author": "Marco", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:49:39", "content": "How many hamsters would it take to power your gaming rig ? Do hamsters count as renewable energy source? So many questions…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200056", "author": "Chajtek", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:56:32", "content": "How many hamsters do you need to charge cellphone?By the way I think that all gym’s should have similar equipment. Single man can produce 100W.Gym would produce enough energy to heat water at least for showers. Rest of energy can go to sauna.This would be good mobilization for workout.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200070", "author": "Colecoman1982", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T19:22:47", "content": "@Chajtek: I remember hearing about someone trying that at a commercial gym. I don’t think it was producing anywhere near as much energy as you think it can (in fact, it didn’t sound like it was even close to being worth the money it took to retrofit the equipment). The problem is that even if a person does produce 100W, much of that is in waste heat that can’t be collected. What percentage is converted to mechanical motion can be harvested, but the efficiency isn’t very high.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200073", "author": "mostlymac", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T19:26:58", "content": "Reminds me of the good ol’ days playing The Incredible Machine. Except that used a belt attached to the hamster wheel to turn a generator.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200074", "author": "Hirudinea", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T19:32:17", "content": "@RogueAngel2k.comDamn it, you stole my joke!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200091", "author": "Trollicus", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:01:35", "content": "Try a chinchilla, they are super hyper(like an ADHD hamster on drugs, lots of drugs) and much bigger. If you have never seen a chinchilla on a large wheel you would be amazed, you can barely see the wheel it moves so fast. A 19″ OR LARGER chinchilla wheel would make a good generator. The small wheels(under 15″) are to unstable and the chinchilla wont get up to speed as they need a larger area, they jump like a kangaroo. When my friend took his old 14″ wheel out and put in an 18″ we made, the thing MOVED fast. Really fast. The chinchilla loved it and would go for a long time.Definitely enough to charge a phone.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200093", "author": "Pandaemonium", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:03:32", "content": "Didn’t I see one of these in a cartoon when I was a kid?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200095", "author": "Limey", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:06:16", "content": "@mostlymacAh, good memories of The Incredible machine, they should re-release the original on steam (there has been imitations but nothing has come close to the original).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200108", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:21:27", "content": "XD surprisingly i have seen this as a joke for years and years and years but this is the first time i have seen it in use irl XD", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200125", "author": "Firestorm", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:42:14", "content": "Yes finally a powersource powerfull enough to fire the DEATHRAY !", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200182", "author": "Spinner", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T22:03:03", "content": "Thanks to Dizzy, all of my electronics are now Rodent powered!!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200190", "author": "ferdi", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T22:29:08", "content": "mmm thats a photo from torrentz.comwhen site is overload you get a masage that seeor hamster powerd server is overoad come back later tis no jokenow i no how it look thx", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200202", "author": "The Cageybee", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T22:56:59", "content": "Man, I wish there was video of Skippy in action. Please we need video.Nice write up, plenty of humour.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200226", "author": "James", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T00:22:52", "content": "A decent cyclist can knock out a constant 200W, peaking around 450W on a sprint. FYI.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200227", "author": "James", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T00:23:23", "content": "However most people bearly break a sweat at the gym.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200230", "author": "cgmark", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T00:49:47", "content": "tip for future consideration. Use a stepper motor as the alternator. They can produce a fair amount of power without much rpm at all. I use one for a hand cranked light. a few turns can power an led for several minutes.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200274", "author": "gottabethatguy", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T02:12:59", "content": "Where’s the stick to poke him errr persuade him into charging the circuit?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200380", "author": "CB4", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T09:02:17", "content": "” The bicycle computer gives you an incredible amount of data for your project! It always shows you the speed of the hamster in miles or kilometers per hour. It remembers maximum speed, and keeps track of the total miles run by your rodent, with a resettable trip odometer too. The resettable timer shows you how many Hamster-Miles (hM) were run each night, and it will also compute the average speed maintained when the wheel is turning.”hehehe", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200404", "author": "syale", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T12:20:15", "content": "Will Skippy’s brain be affected by the magnetism? Those Neodymium-Iron-Boron are quite powerful…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200406", "author": "syale", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T12:23:47", "content": "from 1983:http://www.nytimes.com/1983/02/22/science/do-enormous-magnets-affect-the-human-body.html", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200412", "author": "Malikaii", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T13:04:37", "content": "Mike, were you drunk when you wrote this?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200470", "author": "Alex", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:34:26", "content": "Not sure if the night light is a good idea, might just make him fat:http://www.economist.com/node/17248910", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200531", "author": "RJSC", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T19:35:13", "content": "Check mine at:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YOAmqXEehADetailed generator mounting photos at:http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fimg718.imageshack.us%2Fimg718%2F975%2Fwheelu.jpg&session_token=zTjMuw8jdHN3nr06OIcuTUPeehh8MTI4Nzc3NjAyMA%3D%3Dhttp://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fimg543.imageshack.us%2Fimg543%2F5441%2Fgenerator1.jpg&session_token=zTjMuw8jdHN3nr06OIcuTUPeehh8MTI4Nzc3NjAyMA%3D%3Dhttp://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fimg651.imageshack.us%2Fimg651%2F1830%2Fgenerator2.jpg&session_token=zTjMuw8jdHN3nr06OIcuTUPeehh8MTI4Nzc3NjAyMA%3D%3D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200580", "author": "Roman Dulgarov", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T21:16:18", "content": "You may be able to use one of the new energy harvesting chips, or just a dc/dc converterhttp://www.cymbet.com/MContentA/pdfs/DS-72-06.pdf", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200586", "author": "PocketBrain", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T21:34:48", "content": "Funny, I have been planning to use a similar setup added to my exercise bike to get it to calculate my calories without using batteries. Those little magnets are like a quarter apiece, so ya gotta spread ’em out a bit to remain cost effective. Aw, but who needs to be cost effective?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201250", "author": "Dave", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T11:07:07", "content": "I’ve ALWAYS dreamt of building a hamster generator.Uhm I mean an electricity generator run by hamsters.The only thing that’s kept me back is the lack of a hamster. I travel too frequently and long for one to survive in my flat.:D Kudos!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202268", "author": "tapius", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T01:01:32", "content": "Hysterical! I did that for my 5th Grade science fair project. I fed 2 hampsters different diets to see if their proformance was any different.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "206784", "author": "Jason Dumbaugh", "timestamp": "2010-11-02T19:44:31", "content": "Haha I love the CritterTrail cage. Mine is well-powered too :)http://www.jasondumbaugh.com/gallery_gerbilpc.html", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,352.6206
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/20/new-dynamic-duo-arduino-and-eclipse/
New Dynamic Duo, Arduino And Eclipse
Jakob Griffith
[ "Arduino Hacks" ]
[ "arduino", "eclipse", "ide", "program" ]
There are a lot of solutions to programing an Arduino : the default avr-g++, Studio, etc. But [Sandeep] let us know about using one of the more powerful IDEs out there, Eclipse , to do the same. We’ve already outlined why Eclipse is a great IDE but now the fact that you can use it in your MCU based projects adds to its usefulness and already large feature list . However, don’t be turned off by [Sandeep’s] tutorial. While it is aimed at people who are completely new to setting up an IDE and working with an AVR, the tips certainly can benefit even the most experienced hacker.
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[ { "comment_id": "199987", "author": "spiritplumber", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T16:14:09", "content": "Finally some arduino news that isn’t rampant fanboyiusm :) seriously, this is quite useful.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199991", "author": "NatureTM", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T16:30:37", "content": "Since I use Eclipse for just about everything else, I guess I’ll have to try this.Also, about the image-mouseover caption, I use The GIMP for all my image compression and scaling, and have always been satisfied. I rarely use .png format, however, so I wonder if it has something to do with that. I agree though, the image looks grainy and there’s a lot of loss of detail in the text.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199992", "author": "annoyed", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T16:32:10", "content": "I wish the link for the referenced article stood out more from the 3 other links in this summary…Hackaday fail everytime", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199997", "author": "Brendan Tobolaski", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T16:45:40", "content": "Just saying, the linked article does do much to say that eclipse is a great ide", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200011", "author": "JimSocks", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T17:36:00", "content": "Don’t get me wrong; I really like Eclipse, but this seems like a lot of setup work just to use a different IDE.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200024", "author": "qwerty", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:15:26", "content": "Speaking of IDEs, why not Anjuta (http://www.anjuta.org/) which is free and powerful but, unlike Eclipse and every Java based software, also blazingly fast?I’m forced right now to use Eclipse for Android development and it’s slow as molasses compared to everything else on a dual core where Anjuta and other non Java IDEs would run at acceptable speed under old P4’s.The day Anjuta or any other non-Java IDE offers some Android compliance (building, debugging, signing, etc) is the day I uninstall Eclipse forever.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200025", "author": "jc", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:17:17", "content": "What I’d really like to see in eclipse is an useful memory mapped i/o viewer. It may not make much sense for the AVRs, maybe even less for Arduino but I’d extremely appreciate it when I’m working with low level ARM code. In this regard, gdb still kicks some eclipsed ass.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200052", "author": "NsN", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:50:14", "content": "@qwerty:Because i prefer to use software, that i can run on both my windows and linux systems.I’m on windows right now, so i can’t really say whether there are other reasons to prefer eclipse over anjuta.That being said, i still do most of my avr development in a simple text editor. Most of my project haven’t gotten big enough yet to require more (max ~2000 LOC).Oddly enough for python, php and java i prefer eclipse and for LPC the standard IDE is also an eclipse variant.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200090", "author": "Jeffie", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T19:59:06", "content": "Come on, not another Arduino post. Arduino is a watered down controler at best. It’s only suited for beginers, just like training wheels on a bike. And Eclipse? Really? Eclipse is just for Android fanbois. Get over yourselves already.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200148", "author": "Anders", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T21:13:17", "content": "I use Visual Studio 2010 to program my Arduino. I’m not using any of the Arduino libraries though, so I haven’t bothered setting those up.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200155", "author": "Jeff G", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T21:27:22", "content": "I knew I should have submitted this to Hackaday earlier.http://www.wikihow.com/Write-Arduino-Software-in-CI’ve done quite a bit of work with the Arduino Mega as an embedded sensor platform for autonomous mobile robots, and decided to create this for people to get up and running quickly. Definitely not as in-depth as the above article, but for those of you who want Eclipse + Arduino running in 15 minutes, try this out!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200188", "author": "Tiago", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T22:21:00", "content": "Instead of Visual Studio then you would better served with Avr Studio as it as a Simulator for avr chips.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200332", "author": "axodus", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T05:58:28", "content": "eclipse add project management, auto complete and auto format features, which the arduino IDE really lacking.Does any one know how to add debug capabilities to eclipse?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200341", "author": "Cindy Auligny", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T06:44:17", "content": "Eclipse is a great and powerful IDE. I use it to develop my embedded system project, run in Cygwin. That’s so great to hear this news.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200427", "author": "kevin mcguigan", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T14:33:43", "content": "jeffie. what is your problem? are you one of those out of work rocket scientists that all day long downplays anything that doesnt take a PHD to operate? i am a beginner. i havent got millions of dollars for computers and i happen to like the arduino as something to learn with and possibly make something usefull.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200434", "author": "lwatcdr", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T15:03:50", "content": "Wow Jeffie.Actually I used Eclipse with CDT to write c++ code for an embeded Linux system running on Arm so I wouldn’t say it was just for “Android Fanbois”. It is actually a good IDE for a number of systems.As to the Arduino I have never used it. But it seems like a good low cost and simple system for people to create interesting projects with.There is an interesting autopilot project that uses it along with some other projects.It think you see it a lot of HAD because it is a good tool.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200455", "author": "ScottSEA", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:09:20", "content": "I’m sure you meant to say *programming* an Arduino. Yeah, I fixed that for you. Perhaps you’ve heard of this new thing called spell check?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200523", "author": "Spork", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T19:09:15", "content": "First, Eclipse is terrible, it may be cross-platform, but software is still worthless if it runs like crap on every platform.Second, Jeffie is a troll. Much of what he said is based on true points, but he’s a troll nonetheless.If you look at the arduino it is just an AVR with a built in programmer and lots of libraries. If you really intend to learn about microcontrollers, there is a point where the arduino becomes a crutch and you stop learning. I believe this point comes very quickly after blinking an LED. — Using arduinos for prototyping is a different story, you can use the same code and dump the bootloader/ftdi chip/goofy pin layout and have a really badass board with a relatively short design time.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200585", "author": "Taylor Alexander", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T21:30:06", "content": "As far as arduinos go:When I learned microcontrollers 10 years ago, I learned with a BASIC Stamp. They were all the rage back then. $55 for one microcontroller with very little power, but man were they easy.I learned a lot about embedded systems from that stuff. Sure, I was thrilled when I learned about $2 AVRs being 50x more capable, but those BASIC Stamps are what got me started.Arduinos are even cheaper and more powerful than a BASIC Stamop, so its a pretty cool situation.I certainly think more people should embrace the AVR within, once they’ve gotten used to the Arduino, but that doesn’t mean the Arduino isn’t a great platform!And honestly, anyone that doesn’t see the value of a quick and easy development and learning tool is just an idiot.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200938", "author": "theorifice", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T18:41:33", "content": "As a prototyping tool, the Arduino Nano package is really something to behold. It’s essentially a DIP-30 packaged Arduino, which really can just be thought of as a fantastically accessible ATMEGA328P breadboardable dev board.I for one welcome more fast prototyping tools. The Arduino software on the other hand is a useless steaming pile.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201353", "author": "draeath", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T16:14:54", "content": "@qwertyBecause it’s not tied down to failtacular GNOME?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/20/plantenna-the-plant-antenna/
Plantenna: The Plant Antenna
Jakob Griffith
[ "Wireless Hacks" ]
[ "am", "antenna", "frequency", "plant", "pwm", "radio", "transmission" ]
The back story behind [Mike] experimenting with plants as AM radio transmission antennas antennae is rather interesting and worth the short read. But for those who just want the facts, [Mike] took an ATMega324, modified the PWM output into a sinusoidal AM signal (using a simple form of RLC circuitry ), and connected the circuit to a plant no plants were harmed in the making of this project . The results? Well we’re not ones who would spoil the surprise, you’ll have to see for yourself in the video after the jump. [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPaM7u4EHZM&feature=player_embedded%5D
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[ { "comment_id": "199880", "author": "Timmah", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T13:55:58", "content": "Rush Limbaugh finally goes green!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199884", "author": "mess_maker", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T14:00:34", "content": "That’s funny :) He is on 540AM here in Central Florida… is that where you are, Timmah?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199886", "author": "gottabethatguy", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T14:02:43", "content": "What does this prove? The video doesn’t show nor explain anything, neither does the article. How do you know that the signal isn’t being transmitted by the wires with the alligator clips attached? I’m going to go RTA but as of this moment none of this proves anything or even makes sense.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199891", "author": "gottabethatguy", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T14:14:29", "content": "“As I mentioned, the “plantenna” did slightly improve reception. However, the effect was admittedly quite small. My fingers actually had a greater impact on the signal’s strength than did the plantenna.”The above is taken from the article. Looks like I was right, nothing has been proven. He didn’t even provide a scale other than what he perceived as an improvement to show the actual increase in signal reception. I’m willing to bet my coffee maker (and I love my coffee maker) that the plant has a next to negligible effect on the transmission and that the bulk of the transmission is being performed by the wires the alligator clips are attached to and the device itself.Up next peopletennas, pie platetennas, and pennytennas.All of those were things I used when I was 8 to bring in CTV a little clearer on the farm since my bedroom didn’t have access to the outside antenna. TV check, coax cable plugged in check, place penny on end of coax check, enjoy late night tv.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199893", "author": "Thioden", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T14:17:30", "content": "Interesting, but I would like to see what happens when he unclips the plant. It looks like he is using a rather long lead to connect to the plant. I think the wire might be acting as an antenna.Still, it’s a fun idea.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199896", "author": "Andrew", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T14:21:17", "content": "I don’t get how this is a hack. If I stick a coathanger on my transmitter, can I be on the front page too?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199905", "author": "arocholl", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T14:33:14", "content": "Two interesting mistakes in the article:1) An RLC circuit doesn’t amplify a signal, as he apparently states (” it actually provides a slight amount of amplification through resonance between C1 and L1″). RLC is tunned and thus it is selective though, where it will attenuate some frequencies more than others, and that is what he displays on the plotted graphs. But saying it amplifies is no sense. Note these are pure theoretical graphs, simulated and not taking account parasistic impedance nor many other important aspects by which an actual frequency response of his circuit will be different to what he plots out.2) More interestingly, he has the transmitter and receiver very close each other, much closer than 1 wave length, which means he is capacitively coupling transmitter and receiver. So this is not radio transmission, as the antenna doesn’t work as such but as part of a coupled capacitor. He should move receiver significantly further away at this frequency to start talking about radio.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199906", "author": "Oren Beck", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T14:37:00", "content": "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_perception_%28paranormal%29", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199932", "author": "Bosman", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T14:45:09", "content": "You can get the same results, sticking calculator to FM radio :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199933", "author": "guy", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T14:45:14", "content": "Few years back i did some tests with 2 meters, 70 cm bands of amateur radio. I wanted to see if i could build antenna out of junk that could be used in an emergency – i happened to also have an SWR meter that let me fine tune them, but math and trial and error could work just as well. Anyways, dipole antennas made from gum wrappers, golf umbrellas, and a plane metal hanger bent into a quad all got me to my local repeater, so at least 10 miles, didn’t have a way to test actual field strength. Long story short, you would be amazed just how many things work as antennas, even i ntheir unaltered state.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199938", "author": "gottabethatguy", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T14:51:36", "content": "What does plant perception have to do with using a plant as an antenna to transmit a signal? You need to read the article.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199950", "author": "Fallen", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T15:15:50", "content": "Agreed with arocholl.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199955", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T15:22:50", "content": "wont give your plant cancer like the new iphone? XD", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199988", "author": "fartface", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T16:17:31", "content": "Wow HAD and the experimenter are “dumb” in the ways of RF…The wire and the alligator clip are the antenna. Epic Fail for an article.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200000", "author": "Richard", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T16:55:49", "content": "Returning for a moment to more authentic antenna shinannegans, it’s surprising what can be made to radiate effectively… and possibly less surprising that quite a few radio amateurs have a little bit of light-hearted fun with the idea.http://www.n0ew.org/k0s/k0s_2009/k0s_2009.phpwill offer a few seemingly daft ideas to tinker with… but you never know what you might have to get on the air with in an emergency so there is a point to the silliness – sort of. ;-)73", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200002", "author": "Velleos", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T17:01:55", "content": "I think it was worth it to post, because it’s getting everyone talking. This may get more people interested in how antennae work. It did for me.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200004", "author": "Necromant", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T17:14:29", "content": "Hmm… just imagine: hackaday, year 2024:Mike finally released his hack: the genetically hacked plant acts as a wifi antenna. He managed to grow it up to 17dBi, until the frequency shifted off, what he considers a success.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200007", "author": "Necromant", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T17:22:28", "content": "Now seriously. You’re better off with some cactus: the resistance if you plug the multimeter probes in it is about 60-80k (distance is about 3 cm between probes. The next step is to wisely chose the watering, since some article I read spoke that some substances found in soil affect the resistance.Then may be we can hack some bush to be a wifi antenna =)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200012", "author": "gottabethatguy", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T17:44:00", "content": "@Velleos By that logic posting“Arduino Rules, bababooie bababooie” would be a good article.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200049", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:48:16", "content": "Hi Guys,Thanks for the comments! Just to clarify, based on some of the comments I’ve been reading on HaD…First, no, I’m clearly not an expert on radio transmission. Not even close. I can really only tell you what worked and what didn’t. I don’t have any RF instruments so I can’t quantify any of the results above. All I can say is that with that alligator clip connected to the plant, reception was improved qualitatively. With the clip disconnected (but the wire STILL attached to the circuit), reception was not quite as good. But again, it was a small difference. With regard to the RLC circuit, no, it doesn’t amplify the output power. However, it does amplify the voltage at the antenna. That’s the resonant nature of this RLC circuit. Granted, not all RLC circuits are resonant (underdamped), but this one was designed to be.Anyway, I hope you’ve still found something here interesting/useful! My apologies if I’m wasting your time. If you’re really curious about this circuit, build it and tell me what happens. Thanks!-Mike", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200053", "author": "crazy_conspiracy_man", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:51:28", "content": "not a hack", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200116", "author": "Roder", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:26:41", "content": "I use my dog as antena!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200120", "author": "Chris", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:32:36", "content": "Lighten up folks, it’s just a fun experiment.Though a more meaningful (and simpler) test is to use a plant as receive antenna for a distant station.Back in my early years, I had a high-gain JFET amp and speaker hooked up to a plant to try and detect the “paranormal plant perception” Oren mentioned. I never found any proof of the phenomena. The only odd result is that it consistently produced an audible signal when a car pulled into my driveway. Though I never figured out exactly why, I believe it’s just science, not the supernatural.BTW, you can get a much better connection to a plant by driving a conductor into the soil, like a large nail. Make sure the soil is moist (doesn’t have to be saturated) and properly fertilized (the chemicals salts enhance conductivity); both of which should be the case anyway. I’ve used this to connect ionizer modules to houseplants, in order to train cats not to treat them as salads. A few harmless static zaps and they never mess with that plant again.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200133", "author": "shiona", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:57:48", "content": "It is antennas.A quote from wikipedia, not a reliable source blaablaablaa, but I believe most of you know this to be true:“In the context of engineering and physics, the plural of antenna is antennas, and it has been this way since about 1950 (or earlier), when a cornerstone textbook in this field, Antennas, was published by John D. Kraus of the Ohio State University. Besides the title, Dr. Kraus noted this in a footnote on the first page of his book. Insects may have “antennae”, but this form is not used in the context of electronics.”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200198", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T22:43:49", "content": "So you guys posted THIS, but not my simple robot made of industrial scrap??dayam…I should have connected it to an AM radio.:(Aw screw it, check it out!http://www.flickr.com/photos/strider_mt2k/sets/72157625069322244/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "200268", "author": "Caleb Kraft", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T01:56:50", "content": "Strider_mt2k,I loved your bot, I thought you were going to expand on the idea and I’m still waiting for that!It didn’t get posted in its current state because it is pretty much just a remake of this:http://hackaday.com/2010/08/10/super-simple-inch-worm-mechanism/But still might have made it into a links post anyway because it is really well done… NOW GET CRACKING ON ADDING THOSE EXTRA FEATURES!", "parent_id": "200198", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "200231", "author": "Jakob Griffith", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T00:55:47", "content": "@strider_mt2k:I’ll begin with the usual “we can’t post everything, we try and have a mix of complicated to simple, and fun to crazy, and old to new.”A lot of thought actually went into posting your industrial wonder. In the end, it was decided we would wait for your reply email and/or the “planned updates” which we figured wouldn’t be more than a month away. Eventually though, it fell off our stack of “we’ll wait on these” into the “never showed up, it can’t really stand on its own” pile.For the “never showed up” part, I can’t seem to find a reply from you in our inbox. It may have been deleted, you might have only sent it to Caleb (in which case, the rest of HAD team can’t possibly feature something they don’t have!) or otherwise. While we don’t advocate spamming our tip line, you /can/ resubmit an idea; sometimes we just miss things.Elaborating on the “can’t stand on its own” part. There is some significant difference between this Plant Antenna article by [Mike] and your flickr stream. Mostly being, Plantenna by [Mike] was a very well written thought out article that was clear, detailed, had pictures, and other support. On the contrary, you simply posted a series of pictures, which while /we/ at HAD may understand what is going on, others might not.In short, for anyone who wishes to be featured on had, take the following to note.http://hackaday.com/2009/09/19/how-to-make-your-project-an-internet-sensation/Jakob GriffithHAD Team", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "200389", "author": "InformativuC", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T11:05:39", "content": "informative link. Thanks for the post.", "parent_id": "200231", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "200250", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T01:15:48", "content": "gucci antenna. gucci gucci antenna.i built an antenna out of a 133mhz pentium, a 400mhz amd k6 or something, some duct tape, copper wire, and an 80mm fan grill. i don’t have to water it and it does a damn fine job of picking up the DTV. i tried hooking up some transformer coil but it just fucked up the signal completely, even when it was nearby, and the computer parts were the only decent materials i had lying around that might possibly do the job. back in the day you could get by with some wire, maybe a coathanger, aluminum foil, but nowadays you gotta throw something funky in the mix. most of my experiments involving electric wires and plants ended in dead plants. except my tobacco plant, which was growing through hard drive platters and had magnets attached and couldn’t support its weight without copper wire until i moved it outside a year later, where it got huge as a tobacco plant should, and is now dead because i didn’t go collect the yummy worms off the leaves. i think you would have very good results with a cat, however. they lay around all day and if you made it a metal cat-mat (aluminum foil, perhaps) and connect it to an antenna wire, it should have the same effect as when you touch the antenna with your finger, using your bodies capacitance or whatever. or a snake. you can give the snake a body piercing and connect the wire to that. that would be a cool antenna.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200271", "author": "Harvie.CZ", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T01:59:25", "content": "Imho the most interesting part of this project is using AVR as RF modulator. i’ve googled a bit and i’ve found this:http://jonnyblanch.webs.com/arduino.htmArduino+Wire = RF transmitter", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200277", "author": "gottabethatguy", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T02:20:08", "content": "@Jakob Griffith, Judging by your teams editing and choice of articles sometimes I’m not so sure you or your team “understand what is going on”.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200299", "author": "Samuel Clemmens", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T03:42:54", "content": "You know, after they were able to draw electrical energy by tapping the roots of trees, I contemplated the thought of using them as antennas.It turns out that this has been a concept known and tested, and found to WORK as far back as 1909!Here’s a PDF link containing 4 documents researching the success and works.http://w5jgv.com/tree_antenna/Robert%20Hand.pdfThe root of that folder also details this gentlemans own work with tree antennas, and has lots of pictures, including a pre-amplifier build into his ‘tree reciever’.Just thought I’d share the fact that this is something that has a future possibly, and I for one plant to go for it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200304", "author": "Oren Beck", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T04:05:55", "content": "The slick presentation or crude lab notes versions of the hack itself should not deprecate the MERIT of anything considered “a hack” Making us rethink old presumptions counts for a lot.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200375", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T08:28:22", "content": "Aw Caleb you’re breaking my stones now…It just figures I had to put all my robot stuff away for a HUGE V.I.P. visit at our facility.I have to decide if it’s worth it to pursue building this kind of stuff specifically BECAUSE it’s so derivative, but if you edited all the derivative stuff from here you’d have at least a third less material! ;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200430", "author": "gottabethatguy", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T14:50:46", "content": "Samuel ClemmensThat article states that a dead telephone pole worked better than a live tree. I bet a coat hanger would work even better. And they state the the tree itself wasn’t used to transmit rather the antenna was wrapped around the tree.I’m betting there is a reason this train of research was abandoned by the military. I actually found and read two of the papers cited in your one page PDF (which provided no info of its own I might add). I’ll sum up the conclusions of each for you.Trees suck as antenna’s use a real antenna. Uniform DEAD telephone poles perform better as a toroid. Want to know what works even better….. real freaking antennas.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200477", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T16:43:05", "content": "@Jakob GriffithExcellent point well taken.I will look towards expounding upon the next project!:D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "621392", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2012-04-05T13:23:17", "content": "FYI, the original article can now be found here:http://www.nlvocables.com/blog/?p=312", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/19/using-a-cellphone-lcd-as-auxiliary-linux-display/
Using A Cellphone LCD As Auxiliary Linux Display
Mike Szczys
[ "Cellphone Hacks" ]
[ "a60", "lcd", "linux", "parallel port", "shunt", "siemens" ]
[Neil] is driving this Siemens A60 LCD using a parallel port on his Linux box. He likes this module because it has an integrated LED back-light, controller IC, and the pads are large enough for a human to solder. He notes that the screen runs on 2.9V, which matches the forward voltage of the LEDs used as back-lights. This means it is possible to use one f the LEDs as a shunt to drop  incoming voltage down to a safe level for the controller. In fact, that’s what he did. The data lines are connected to the parallel port along with some current limiting resistors. The LEDs are connected with resistor calculated for maximum brightness, with the output from the LED used as the source voltage for the LCD controller chip.Whether you want to use one of these screens with a PC or something else, the code that [Neil] worked out should provide the information necessary to do so. The Nokia cellphone LCD post inspired [Neil] to send in a tip about this project. If you’ve got well documented hacks that you’re just sitting on why not let us know about them ?
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[ { "comment_id": "199397", "author": "Ryan", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T20:32:27", "content": "I wonder if the Logitech G19 software could be hacked to work with one of these displays?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199399", "author": "Colecoman1982", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T20:37:15", "content": "The one that’s always interested me is the iPhone “retina display”. With it’s high dpi, I can think of some neat projects it could be used in. There are lots of places online where you can, apparently, pick them up separate from the phone as replacement parts. Unfortunately, I’ve been unable to find any information on what communication format they use. If it’s something simple like the LVDS used by most LCD monitors then you can pick up LVDS-to-VGA converters.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "1026868", "author": "Guilherme", "timestamp": "2013-07-15T14:16:53", "content": "Me to", "parent_id": "199399", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "199411", "author": "Gilliam", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T21:16:28", "content": "@colecomani have Motorola razr parts(and parts from that thicker yet narrower razr-like moto) the top and main screens would be nice to know what the signaling is on them to do such a project.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199448", "author": "apostl3pol", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T00:27:28", "content": "This is so cool. I would love to see some complete DIY pocket computers on here, using cell phone parts and linux and wifi cards and stuff. In my mind that’s the ultimate hacker gadget.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199453", "author": "mixadj", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T01:07:58", "content": "I’m still waiting for an arm mounted computer…………. anybody ever thought of building one??", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "912679", "author": "Sylver", "timestamp": "2013-01-03T10:34:52", "content": "They exist, why would they make a space to mount them on flatscreen monitors if they didn’t?https://www.google.ca/search?q=mini+pc&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=cVDlUJynA-220QH_toDQCA&biw=1280&bih=706&sei=dVDlULfZEYer0AGPyIGwCQ", "parent_id": "199453", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "199571", "author": "sarsface", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T03:11:26", "content": "@mixadjWell, we use Motorola/Symbol WT4000s at work. They’re basically wrist mounted PDAs.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199738", "author": "dude", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T05:43:24", "content": "attach it wirelessly and add touch. the power of a desktop on your wrist", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199755", "author": "MRE", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T07:20:34", "content": "Mount in weathered brass and copper for a pip-boy effect.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199760", "author": "Whoever", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T07:46:41", "content": "@mixadj: I will support such a project as long as it uses an ARM processor. ;-)Bonus points if it also uses the “retina” display. Me too has wondered how hard it would be to integrate one into DIY electronics. 960×640 is a hell of a resolution, there are netbooks with less pixels.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "912680", "author": "Sylver", "timestamp": "2013-01-03T10:38:11", "content": "I’d only support projects with Intel processors. The reason is that most processors and boards will fry if you remove the heatsink while it’s running while an intel processor will just slow down your processes to a crawl to save your system.", "parent_id": "199760", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "199766", "author": "MoJo", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T08:19:39", "content": "Why not let you know about well documented hacks? I’ll tell you why. Electronics Lab is paying $80 for them.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199782", "author": "SRKRS", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T08:37:21", "content": "Site down, quota exceeded. Can anybody mirror it? Thanx", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199834", "author": "h3po", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T11:52:51", "content": "I don’t understand why everybody is so enthusiastic about the iPad display with its high resolution… You can get a replacement display for e.g. The old HTC Touch Diamond which has 640x480px for 15-20 bucks.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199895", "author": "Setatx", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T14:19:59", "content": "@mixadjYou could always velcro a Droid to your forearm, or an IPad to your tummy =P", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199899", "author": "Colecoman1982", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T14:24:18", "content": "@h3po: On top of it’s high resolution, the “retina display” is also supposed to have higher image quality and better view angles than most other displays on the market. The tech it’s made from is also supposed to have a much lower response time which is important for games and video.If the only display I could get to work was the HTC Touch one I’d work with that. Unfortunately, I’ve never heard of anyone figuring out the communications protocol for that one either. Unfortunately, smartphone displays seem to be completely undocumented and, I fear, all use non-standard communications protocols/interfaces.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199935", "author": "Colecoman1982", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T14:47:14", "content": "Ugh, just noticed I used “Unfortunately, ” to start two back-to-back sentences. I guess I’m feeling repetitive today. I guess I’m feeling repetitive today.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199947", "author": "Bogdan", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T15:02:21", "content": "I’ve used displays from the siemens S65 phone. There is some documentation available. They used to be cheaper than normal 2×16 character displays, but hard to find now.It was greater resolution, easy to solder. The drawbacks were, of course, the 2.9V power supply(easily usable with dividers) and the 3 series white leds for display.@SRKRS are you the project builder? I can help you with the mirroring. contact me.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199949", "author": "Bogdan", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T15:10:23", "content": "@Colecoman1982 VGA is analog interface. It was good for CRT monitors, it is not usable for digital displays.Using displays from mobile phones(especially higher end ones) is probably near to impossible to home user. The interface is probably some custom serial/parallel high speed, hardly usable with smaller micros(remember how many hundreds of MHz your phone CPU is running at?) Plus, there’s the software part, there is no reason why there should be any info on this published from the phone/display manufacturer. And reverse engineering gets rather complex.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199963", "author": "Ivan", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T15:33:33", "content": "Meh…I hace a C72", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199998", "author": "Slanesch", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T16:48:55", "content": "@ WhoeverDude, you make me laugh.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200006", "author": "Colecoman1982", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T17:17:07", "content": "@bogden: Yes, I realize that VGA in analog but converting to that, or DVI, from the digital interface used by the base panel is needed in order to interface the panel with a traditional PC (which I, personally, would find useful).I, also, realize that the actual interface used is likely to be highly custom. On the other hand, these panels are manufactured by the same companies that make full size monitors and general purpose panels. It’s possible that the engineers that designed them stuck with a common format like LVDS or TTL for simplicity’s sake.If that were true, then it should be possible to get an off-the-shelf VGA-to-LVDS/TTL boards to work with it. The problem is, of course, that without any documentation, the only way to figure out if this is the case would be to reverse engineer the interface. Unfortunately, I lack those electrical engineering skills and keep hoping to find that someone might have blazed those trails already.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200009", "author": "bogdan", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T17:30:49", "content": "you are missing a very great thing: vga, dvi and the others are ‘dumb’ interfaces. All they do is send each frame pixel by pixel and continously, in digital or analog and at whatever voltage levels.A phone display has to be energy efficient, information is not sent contonously. The interface is also ‘smart’. The cpu ‘talks’ to the display and it talks back. Some tipical conversation might be: goto that part of the screen, select a regtangle x by y pixels. Now start filling it wiith whatever pixels i tell you to. And thus maybe a button is redrawn on the display.Therefore no possible simple adaptation.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200022", "author": "Colecoman1982", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:10:03", "content": "I can see that being the case for basic cellphones where they have a limited feature set. (what you are describing sounds, very much, like how the industrial touchscreen “smart displays” work in automated systems here at my company). However, I don’t think that would work for a smart phone, like the iPhone, where the display has to be able to do many of the dynamic things that a real PC display does. Also, because, by their nature, LCD/Plasma/etc. screens don’t “refresh” in the same way old CRTs did, I would tend to expect that standard LCD panel interface formats, like LVDS, would already be taking advantage of any of these kinds of optimizations that are possible.Of course, these are all assumption and could, very well, be wrong. It is, however, why I think it’s reasonable to hope to see someone hack these displays into usability.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200185", "author": "Damian", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T22:04:52", "content": "http://www.oocities.com/neil_manc/s-a60/index.html", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200376", "author": "nes", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T08:32:40", "content": "Coral cached here too:http://colonelk.freeshell.org.nyud.net/s-a60/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201215", "author": "Plokko", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T08:10:58", "content": "FINALLY!!!i had a project with a nokia color display but there are not too many schematics around.i remember that can be also driven by some lcd program (that shows useful info like cpu,hdd usage etc.)that works also on windows but i can’t remember it’s name.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "203810", "author": "Trevor Bro", "timestamp": "2010-10-27T21:59:04", "content": "Hey, this project is pretty cool, i was wondering if it would work with a laptop screen. the MB is broken beyond repair but if i could manually hook up the pin connector for the screen to a video output source could i use it as a acreen?i believe the Sn is b141ew03, when i googled i i got the screen as a result.Ive been wanting to do this for a while but could really use help on it, thanks", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "1025061", "author": "John", "timestamp": "2013-07-10T14:00:28", "content": "Hello have they help you with your project cause I would like to do it too any help any ideas that you came by yourself.", "parent_id": "203810", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "1025060", "author": "John", "timestamp": "2013-07-10T13:58:34", "content": "Can someone tell me more of this… Or where can I search for it like a forum cause google just gives me this link. Email reaperdeamon@gmail", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/19/more-el-chemistry-luminescent-ink/
More EL Chemistry: Luminescent Ink
Mike Szczys
[ "chemistry hacks" ]
[ "copper", "el", "electroluminescence", "glow powder", "ink", "penny", "sulfate", "sulfide", "zinc" ]
[Jeri Ellsworth] continues her experiments with electroluminescence, this time she’s making EL ink . The ink she’s looking for is Zinc Sulfate in a solution. The process she chose is to re-dope some glow powder so that it can be excited by the field around an AC current. In her video (embedded after the break) she talks about the chemical properties she’s after by detailing a cubic lattice of zinc and sulfur atoms with an added copper atom (adding that atom is a process called doping). The quick and dirty synopsis of the experiment starts by washing the glow powder with dish soap to acquire zinc sulfide crystals. Then she combined copper sulfate and zinc shavings from the inside of a modern penny to yield copper metal and zinc sulfate suspended in solution. That was mixed with the zinc sulfide from the glow powder washing and doped with a little more copper sulfate. The excess liquid is poured off, the test tube is capped with glass frit, and the whole thing hits the kiln to start the reaction. The result glows when excited by alternating current, but could have been improved by adding chlorine atoms into the mix. We’re excited every time we see one of [Jeri’s] new chemistry hacks. We’d love to see more so if you’ve come across interesting chemistry experiments during your Internet travels, please let us know about them . Just make sure you have some idea of what you’re doing when working with chemicals… safety first. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmQqdYrn9g8]
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[ { "comment_id": "199350", "author": "zeropointmodule", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T19:10:28", "content": "nice..reckon this can be used to make multiple colours?apparently doping with other rare earths changes the colour.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199367", "author": "Hackius", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T19:43:00", "content": "I’m very surprised EL generates light by pretty much the same mechanism as LEDs albeit on a different scale and in different conditions.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199396", "author": "Boudico", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T20:32:23", "content": "Marry Me, Jeri! LOL", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199408", "author": "nave.notnilc", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T21:12:38", "content": "am I the only person who finds it really irritating when projects are documented solely as youtube videos? I’d much rather text + images, way easier to skim through and faster to pick up.anyway, this is cool, I’ve got some chemistry-related projects I’ve been cooking up, this could fit in well :p", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199443", "author": "s", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T23:40:35", "content": "nave.notnilc: Hmmm. You could watch the video to write some text and capture some images. Then post them here in the comments so that people like you could skim through and pick up faster.Congratulations, Jeri. You are awesome and deserve the success.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199517", "author": "Leithoa", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T02:18:17", "content": "Zinc sulfate could easily be made in large quatities with Zinc metal and Sulfuric acid.Or you could buy the mineral Wurtzite (Zn,Fe)S and crush it up(not an easy task I imagine).Zinc Chloride, for additional doping, can again be made by dissolving zinc metal in HCl. Both acids are readily available in a variety of concentrations and purities.To anyone else who was wondering apparently ‘rather high voltages’ are from ~50-200V according to a response on her youtube page.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199557", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T02:44:49", "content": "A fascinating little factoid:So, a young lady I know was given a great deal of jewelry of the faux-diamond variety; specifically, artificial diamonds. I explained to her that they were basically extra-large LEDS without the wrapper.She scoffed at this. Two wires and a bit of bias current later, I made one of her earrings glow quite brightly. She was impressed, and said “Cool! Can you show my mom?”.Naturally, I ended up blowing a tiny hole in the earring during the second demo. It did not end well. I traded her a real ruby from thailand circa 1960 (and now fake ones are everywhere) for the earrings.Jeri,I know your interests run towards HV, but you might find ultrasonic bubble glow vaguely interesting.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199779", "author": "LoneTech", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T08:31:52", "content": "Monty already did some experiments on ultrasonic bubble glow in Jeri’s lab, iirc. Fun times.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200158", "author": "Jeri Ellsworth", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T21:30:05", "content": "@bilbao bob What type of jewel should I search for if I want to reproduce this? Cubic zirconia?@bilbao bob @LoneTech Yes Monty did set up his sono-luminescence rig and we made a video. He got the bubble to form, but it was either not generating light or the other light sources in the room were preventing us from seeing it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200384", "author": "rukia", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T10:01:16", "content": "i really like these vids, pretty cool.one thing i was wondering about was, in that first diagram with the valance and conduction bands, are the arrows pointing in the wrong direction?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200907", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T17:23:17", "content": "Jeri,You have to work hard to get good luminescence. Even then, it’s not gonna look like the fusion reactor that seems to appear in american superhero movies.OK.I want to point out that the glow is a point contact glow – it is visible through the gem, but you won’t be creating a super-hero laser effect without a lot of work. On the plus side, it’s often green. Any impurites in the silicon will create different colors, but you already knew that.The jewel is called moissanite, and it is rapidly going out of fashion for a variety of reasons. JC Penny in the US was a major retailer, but I don’t know who else sold/sells this stuff. The company is going down the tubes as far as I know.Moissanite is basically the same old circa 1900 silicon carbide material used for radios, and it essentially was the ancestor of diodes and silicon circuits in general. I think an american found the glow, but a russian physicist published a paper or two on it. Olav? Olev? Something like that.You basically grip the material in an alligator clip or any kind of metallic holder (I used the earring base, which was crimped on but had holes underneath) and then using a cat’s whisker/needle/whatever, apply the bias current to it.The physics are almost identical to ordinary LEDs, as the material is the same. Current limiting is a good idea.You can crush up moissanite and build your own low quality LEDs by creating the correct shape, inserting it into the plastic leaving a gap for the electrons and then sealing it. Vacuum pumps help, but not necessary.They typically use a metal substrate and then apply a very small particle of silicon carbide or carborundum to save material. The gems are the same thing in large purified form.The plastics used in old LEDs are recoverable through temp controlled melting, btw. Any transparent plastic should be usable for light devices.Finally, if you watch the currents, you can have multiple anodes/cathodes on a single gem. It isn’t easy to do.I blame this experiment on absinthe. It’s way cooler to use jewelry. Good luck!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/19/machining-an-slr-camera-from-scratch/
Machining An SLR Camera From Scratch
Mike Szczys
[ "digital cameras hacks" ]
[ "camera", "film", "machining", "milling", "scratch", "single-lens reflex", "SLR" ]
It took us a while to stop drooling long enough to write about this amazing machining project. [Denis MO] made a single-lens reflex camera from scratch . The banner image above is not the finished product, but just one step in the production chain. [Denis] has been thinking about doing this project for 25 years and finally took the plunge. From the start, the only parts he planned on NOT making himself were the screws, ball bearings, shutter, curtain fabric, and interchangeable lenses. Everything else is his own creation based off of his own design. Spend some time looking over his project. There’s plenty of information and images of both the machining process, and the drawings he mocked up in the design process. We’ve also included a pic of the finished camera and the contact sheet from his test roll of film after the break. [Thanks Javi]
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[ { "comment_id": "199294", "author": "Fallen", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T17:12:40", "content": "Wow that is impressive.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199309", "author": "craig christ", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T17:52:28", "content": "WOW… Just WOW.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199312", "author": "Ted Zissou", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T17:52:58", "content": "Looks Russian!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199315", "author": "Hackius", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T17:57:01", "content": "Woah", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199329", "author": "zero", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T18:01:49", "content": "This must be the most amazing thing I’ve seen in a while.I was just about to say the same thing as Fallen and craig christ but I said I shouldn’t sound like broken record — but then again… WOW", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199333", "author": "Spork", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T18:26:41", "content": "That is truly awesome. To see someone with access to machinery and actually use it to create something they like is very rare. Nice job.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199339", "author": "Vince", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T18:41:18", "content": "Just spent a good 30 mins trawling through all those images, absolutely astounding work. I honestly would never understand where to start a project like this, let alone the patience.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199360", "author": "Matteo", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T19:27:26", "content": "OMFG he is also building a rangefinder camera O_O", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199365", "author": "Quin", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T19:42:21", "content": "This is just gorgeous. Home-made gears, body, casing, mount. I am in awe.The only problem is: now I want a machine shop to go along with my cameras.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199369", "author": "grenadier", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T19:55:54", "content": "Holy crap.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199409", "author": "George", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T21:14:37", "content": "I like how the first two shots on the roll of film are of the moon. True hacker style, I’m guessing he finished the thing late at night, and couldn’t wait to load it up and test it out.And yeah, as Ted Zissou said, it does kind of look like a refined Zenit or Zorki from fifty years ago. (This coming from someone who still regularly uses a Zorki, BTW.)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199423", "author": "Kuhltwo", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T22:08:46", "content": "Quite Impressive!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199425", "author": "vonskippy", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T22:19:16", "content": "Nice machine work – but kind of like making your own mimeograph machine. Best stock up on film while it’s still being produced.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199439", "author": "Concino", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T23:15:55", "content": "Fantastic piece of work. What is next? Adapting a digital back for this awesome camera?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199441", "author": "Incudie", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T23:19:14", "content": "Wow… that is beyond impressive. That is something to really be proud of! Good job man!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199446", "author": "miked", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T00:11:54", "content": "My first thought was “so what” – film is dead. I then looked at the links.WOW!The build documentation and pics are great.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199450", "author": "Hirudinea", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T00:54:25", "content": "That is the BALLS!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199752", "author": "Zandaa", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T07:04:36", "content": "Holy sh*t, that’s some really nice work. Is it heavy in any way? The pics that came out look really good as well, I just don’t know what else to say.For the record, is that an M42 or M39 mount on there??", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199762", "author": "Jonathan Wilson", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T07:54:02", "content": "Now all we need is someone to come up with a hack to produce your own film for the thing then we will have truely “open source” photography (if you build your own dark room that is)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199839", "author": "Simon F.", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T11:55:48", "content": "there are “open source” developers (film developers, haha) too – caffenol for example. It’s actually up to par with the commercial developers if not better! It would be great with a cheap way to manufacture film at home, sadly it isn’t possible in any way – getting a film speed over 25 or so is pretty impossible in a home made emulsion.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199852", "author": "blue carbuncle", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T12:32:28", "content": "Amazing! Nice work and complete meat-and-potatoes building :) Keep up the great work and thank your wife for the time she lets ya have to do the projects :) They are the patient ones. I’m forwarding this article to a couple of my camerabug friends-should make them feel like n00bs lol. My wife loves the green leatherette finish. Should be the new black ;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199860", "author": "Peter", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T13:15:18", "content": "Absolutely awesome. Not only did he design it, he built it. I like his reason for attaching his lens mount with 5 screws instead of 4: “no one will think I used a Zenit mount”.Very nice craftsmanship. My fingers are too fat to do what he has done.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199874", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T13:43:03", "content": "Nifty, but that list of things he did not make means he just made a camera case and some rollers for the film, and I’m sure many metal workers are able to do that.So chalk me off as semi-impressed :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199995", "author": "Travis", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T16:41:15", "content": "You mean this list?shutter curtain fabric, ball bearings and screws", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200066", "author": "Jose", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T19:19:58", "content": "Incredible!!Nice to see people still have the time and dedication to a single project to see it through completion and perfection. Awe-inspiring. Bravo!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200092", "author": "tylo", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:01:42", "content": "Beautiful. That is an amazing piece of work, and the author was even kind enough to translate his post into English.I wish I had the skills and dedication to put something like that together.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200124", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:42:10", "content": "Yes travis, that list, I don’t mean to belittle it, it’s more skill than I ever have with metal working (I really fail at that, my boreholes are never centered no matter what I do for instance), but taking the shutter and such out of the equation it’s ‘just’ a skillfully done case and rollers from what I gather from glancing at the pictures.So from my viewpoint impressive, but from people more adept at metalwork probably less so I expect.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "3224453", "author": "funlw65", "timestamp": "2016-10-07T19:35:05", "content": "When I was a boy, I did my first electronic PCB with dynamic LED lights. Proudly, I showed my realization to a person dear to me. He said with boredom: when you will be able to build your own chip then you’ll have the right to be proud. But those are already invented, I said… much later I learned from his wife that he also tried to learn electronics, took some classes then abandoned. He was green with envy on a little boy. I keep that in my heart, to never make the same mistake with my children.", "parent_id": "200124", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "200128", "author": "George", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:47:13", "content": "Whatnot: Yeah, he “just” made a camera body, film advance mechanism, lens mount, mirror reflex assembly, pentaprism, and “some rollers for the film”, with positional accuracy on three axes to, you know, one thousandth of an inch or so. Heck, your average WoW player can do *that*! Obviously, if he’d manufactured his own screws, ball bearings, and fabric, *then* he’d be, y’know, cool.FWIW, there *are* a few very insane people who coat their own 35mm film, but there are rather more who coat their own sheet or plate film. Given the relatively simple design of a basic plate camera, the only *real* hurdle to complete open-source camera hardware is the (extremely non-trivial) matter of producing a lens more complicated than a simple meniscus.But if someone wants to develop the reprap version of an optical thin-film coating machine, capable of consistent and repeatable multilayer lens coating, that’d be a good start. :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200132", "author": "Hacksaw", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:57:19", "content": "Astounding…My favorite part of the whole log (which I read every word) was where he talked about the stickers he printed for the adjustment dials because he didn’t have the time or the desire to build an engraving machine…thing is this guy could probably crank out a small cnc engraver in a couple hours!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200159", "author": "Steve", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T21:30:08", "content": "This is the most impressive build I have ever seen!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200171", "author": "Pete S", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T21:53:29", "content": "Amazing work and dedication.It made me think of the Nikon FM3 which is a hybrid mechanical/electronic camera but it was clear to Nikon when they designed it in 2001 that the know-how to design and manufacture certain mechanical items on a camera is getting very rare and hard to come by.It’s a good read if you’re interested in cameras. Here is the link:http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/technology/d-archives/history-fm3a/index.htm", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200530", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T19:26:47", "content": "@George I know people who went took very basic education in mechanics and the first thing they learned was machining stuff on a lathe, and if you have access to one then obviously high accuracy isn’t that hard for many parts like the rollers and spindles.So yes am average WoW player could do that accuracy.(I don’t even know what the average WoW player’s credentials would be, I know some MIT/RIT people play WoW though)Now the whole project together that’s another matter and it takes some skill and dedication.But be fair, isn’t the shutter the most complex part? (And the lens too but grinding lenses is a whole different field and I’d tend to exclude that from this discussion.)Anyway it’s more than I could do and as I said I give the work done plenty of credit, I just put some reservations on it because as I said I know using a lathe is part of basic curriculum for mechanics.Oh and incidentally, a $3 throwaway camera manages to advance film fine, there’s no big need to have the parts between the shots accurate to withing a millionths of a millimeter, it just should not overlap.What’s more important is having the back where the film sits completely parallel to the lensmount at exactly the right distance, without play but still allowing the film to move between shots, and the lensmount being completely flat, now that’s more a challenge than simply advancing the film I would say, and there very high accuracy counts, and you can’t lathe it either.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200610", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T22:22:44", "content": "Note: I am aware I made some editing errors like not removing ‘went’ when I changed the line to use ‘took’ instead.Sorry about that.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201299", "author": "krustikov", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T12:53:56", "content": "pffft, he didnt build the lens from scratch. lazy.jks, this is outrageous.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202818", "author": "j s", "timestamp": "2010-10-25T23:35:55", "content": "The single most complex part of a roll-film SLR camera is the shutter. The best all-mechanical SLRs use an extremely elaborate clockwork mechanism with a flyweight and stepped gears which actually controls the amount of time the shutter remains open. The old Leica mechanism this guy uses is much simpler but still quite a complex mechanism in execution.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "293889", "author": "Rob in Belfast", "timestamp": "2010-12-31T20:28:02", "content": "Snappy.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "2977429", "author": "nba 2k16 mt locker codes", "timestamp": "2016-04-04T14:42:16", "content": "You have got probably the greatest websites.|", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,353.572281
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/19/propeller-platform-prototyping-board-gets-an-upgrade/
Propeller Platform Prototyping Board Gets An Upgrade
Mike Szczys
[ "Microcontrollers" ]
[ "eeprom", "ftdi", "microsd", "propeller", "propeller platform usb" ]
[Nick] over at Gadget Gangster has a new version of his prototyping hardware for Propeller microcontrollers, called the Propeller Platform USB . A little more than a year ago we looked at the last version which was larger, used a DIP processor, and came unassembled. The new version does come assembled because of the migration to surface mount components (which may take some of the fun out of it if you just love soldering kits). This not only reduces the board footprint, but makes room for more goodies. As the name implies, there’s now a mini-USB socket with a USB to UART bridge, a microSD card slot as been added, and the onboard EEPROM has been doubled. This is a nice hardware upgrade but the price has been upgraded by $25 as well. No worries, it’s open source so you can roll your own if you have the parts on hand.
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[ { "comment_id": "199275", "author": "NatureTM", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T16:32:04", "content": "Seemed out of my price range until I saw it’s 80MHz with 8 cores. I haven’t used propeller before, but this sure seems interesting. I might have to get one just to try my hand at multicore microcontroller programming.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199277", "author": "M", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T16:41:13", "content": "I need a flowchart to tell me which easy peasy microcontroller platform to buy. Seriously.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199289", "author": "gottabethatguy", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T17:09:51", "content": "I just received my propeller professional development board as I was lucky enough to grab one of the blemished boards for only a 100 bucks. The thing that sold me on the propeller was how easily it can handle video, audio, and whatever else you want all on a single chip. You can display video using a single cog and still have eight cogs left over for whatever you like.Check out their forums to, they have a great online community.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199291", "author": "cgmark", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T17:10:11", "content": "Parallax has some good products but they need to lower their prices. I’m guessing the majority of their customers are universities where they can demand a premium.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199342", "author": "Jeff", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T18:42:12", "content": "One thing to note is that the Propeller does not have any built-in analog i/o. This isn’t a huge problem since there are plenty of cheap analog i/o chips out there that can be integrated via spi or ic2 both of which are well supported via this board.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199353", "author": "Nick McClanahan", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T19:17:39", "content": "That’s my board!Yep, the Prop doesn’t have built-in ADC, although it’s fast enough to do delta-sigma modulation to read analog values using 2 pins. For ADC’s, I usually use the MCP3208. 3204 works great, too.If all you need is to blink an LED, then the Prop is not a great value, but if you want to do video output and stereo wav playback, I think it’s competitive. Just depends on what you want to do. Personally, I like the ease of multitasking the most.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199406", "author": "Adrian", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T21:04:36", "content": "Analog input is “supported” with the use of sigma-delta calculations, and is pretty fast. You can easily sample at 48kHz with 11 bit resolution. Not the greatest, but doesn’t require any external active components, only passives.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199420", "author": "sexiewasd", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T21:58:18", "content": "I’ve found that the prop often isn’t fast enough using just the spin scripting language, but I is really awesome when you need to do lots of different simple things at once, so it’s great for robotics/automation and such.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200048", "author": "Dave Andreae", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:45:01", "content": "If Spin isn’t fast enough, you can use assembly language which is screaming fast.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200162", "author": "x5aint", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T21:40:17", "content": "Cool, I saw the gadget gangster do a presentation on pcb boards at Unofficial Propeller Expo West 2010, pretty cool presentation. Parallax offers a similar board its called the “Propeller Proto Board USB”.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200184", "author": "qwerty", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T22:04:30", "content": "It’s interesting but falls in the same price range of the bifferboard (http://bifferos.bizhat.com) which is a complete Linux system. They could make this platform cheaper by removing everything that isn’t absolutely necessary (sockets,switches,pushbutton,etc) letting the user connect them externally when needed. It would also make it much smaller.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200408", "author": "bifferos", "timestamp": "2010-10-21T12:42:45", "content": "qwerty: You can have the best of both worlds by combining the two:http://sites.google.com/site/bifferboard/Home/howto/serial-terminal-project/parallax-propeller-investigationYou’ll note that at it’s simplest, the Prop needs only a single resistor to interface with the Bifferboard (see the circuit diagram), including 3.3v power.This technique allows the Bifferboard to act as 10/100 ether, USB (hi speed) host and i2c memory for the propeller. If you consider the cost of adding these features to the Prop by using off-the-shelf modules not to mention the hassle of setting up the software to access them this could save a lot of time for prop-based projects.If anyone has any interest in pursuing this concept please get in touch – I can arrange production but don’t have time for any of the design work right now!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "2512682", "author": "Grant", "timestamp": "2015-04-05T01:21:49", "content": "i concur, parallax is frequently too expensive where the price negates the inventor/hobbiest/science peeps. It seems parallax is migrating away from the true designer/creator engineer and focusing their product lines towards the strict programmer.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,353.427947
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/19/hacking-tvs-in-1954/
Hacking TVs In 1954
Caleb Kraft
[ "home entertainment hacks" ]
[ "mute", "retro", "television" ]
This gem was published in Mechanix Illustrated magazine in may of 1954. AT that time, a remote control was the stuff of science fiction. This article shows the modern man how to modify his television to include a fancy button to stop all noise. This button, affectionately labelled the “SHADDAP” was marketed as a way to relieve the pain of long winded commercials. Basically, it cut the connection to the speaker, nothing super fancy. Is that an altoids tin as an enclosure? [via BoingBoing ]
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[ { "comment_id": "199234", "author": "The DON", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T14:28:03", "content": "Sounds like a great idea (pun fully intended).I seem to remember a VCR was released (80’s) which would automatically pause recording for the advert breaks. I am not sure, but I think I remember that there was a court case banning the principle of automated advert avoidance.Why not give the customers what you know they want?They have wanted to rid themselves of the scourge of adverts for at least 56 years on TV’s.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "199733", "author": "jay", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T04:59:44", "content": "I do remember this function in a few magnavox vcr’s", "parent_id": "199234", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "199240", "author": "cde", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T14:56:51", "content": "@ The DON, if that was true, the tv studios would have lawhammered the shit out of Tivo when it first came out, like they wanted to.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199243", "author": "jim", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T15:02:33", "content": "“CBS, FOX to mandate non-blinking during commercials.”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199260", "author": "MoJo", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T15:45:55", "content": "Back when I used to watch broadcast TV channels with adverts I thought about an automatic version of this.It would be a SCART pass-through that monitors sound levels. Since adverts are always louder than the programme it would react to sudden increases in volume by either reducing it to match the program or muting it all together.It never got off the drawing board and became irrelevant once I moved to downloads, DVDs and BBC channels only. These days surround and digital sound would complicate matters somewhat too.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "199732", "author": "jay", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T04:58:03", "content": "They shouldn’t be louder… they are compressed. Sounds louder but it isn’t.", "parent_id": "199260", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "199261", "author": "thecolor", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T15:51:28", "content": "I remember an old TV I had that had no remote… to turn it on and off “remotely” I hooked it’s power up to my mothers sewing pedal… then when I wanted the TV on, I put a weight on the pedal, and off, simply lifted it. :) Didn’t control volume or channel, but, hey, it was a child’s hack. ;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199262", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T15:54:29", "content": "its amazing how little the speaker and soldering iron changed in the past 50 years XD", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199265", "author": "NatureTM", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T16:03:17", "content": "Imagine if this would have been patented. A royalty earned for every television that has a remote mute button would be a lot of money. I guess a patent isn’t worth much if you don’t have the means to protect it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "8117373", "author": "Daniel Gooch", "timestamp": "2025-04-10T13:35:21", "content": "And there would be none. It’s just an on-off switch on a long cord, wired in series with the speaker. Switches were everywhere whenever electricity existed. Pretty much anyone could examine an official model and deduce how to make it.", "parent_id": "199265", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "199266", "author": "chango", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T16:08:33", "content": "@MoJo I used to have a VCR that could fast-forward if the audio transitioned to mono and stop when it went stereo again. It was fiddly, and you still recorded the commercials, but it did make it a little easier. Fortunately it also had a 30 second FF like TiVo and a lot of other DVRs have.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199267", "author": "Bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T16:12:55", "content": "This is a dangerous hack, tv’s of that time used tube amplifiers with an impedance matching transformer, using those without a speaker load can damage the tubes.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199272", "author": "Piku", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T16:19:13", "content": "@bob quick! Go back in your time machine and warn the 1950s hackers of the day that they could ruin their telly!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199281", "author": "Peter", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T16:43:48", "content": "@Bob: Tubes weren’t worth a fortune in that age. :+)What amazes me is that the people in that time were so deep into black and white that they used black, white and grayscale colors in *everything*! They even dyed their skin!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199283", "author": "OldMan", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T16:52:06", "content": "Not altoids, back then it would have been a Sucrets tin", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199295", "author": "gottabethatguy", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T17:14:00", "content": "Colour and skin pigment wasn’t invented till the 70’s duhhhhhh!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199334", "author": "Marco", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T18:26:52", "content": "Saw an ad-avoidance VCR in the early 90s at a science fair. They kept monitoring the corners for station logos which got turned off for commercials.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199404", "author": "Andrew", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T20:51:04", "content": "I have a VCR that does automatic commercial skipping. After recording, it will (very slowly) go through the tape and figure out where the commercials are. Then when you watch the tape, it will automatically fast forward through them. I’m sure Tivo would’ve implemented something to do this if they could’ve without a ton of legal troubles, but they can’t, and VCRs aren’t allowed to do it anymore either. The stations want you to have to manually skip the commercials. I think MythTV can automatically skip commercials in recordings, but i’ve never gotten it working, so I’m not too sure (and now my tuner is irrelevant because it’s analog)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199427", "author": "el marto", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T22:30:32", "content": "@bob, thats what I thought, however it is not the tubes that will likely pack up, its going to be the output trans. The no-load situation would be worse for the trans the higher the volume when the speaker is switched out. Proper job would be to put a power resistor in the box which is switched in when the button is pressed. I’ll shaddap now.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199428", "author": "Tod", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T22:35:42", "content": "30-some years ago when I was a pretty young kid I remember visiting an older couple who had a difficult time getting up/down from their sofas to change TV channels, volume, on/off (I know now it was arthritis). That was in the days of the knobs to turn to change channels UHF thru 13.He wired up a pot for volume, on/off and a pushbutton doorbell that activated a motorized turning of the channel tuner. Put the button and pot in a small box and had a 15ft wire to the back of his TV leading to the internals.I was 6-7yrs old and thought that was the coolest thing I’d ever seen!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199438", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T23:15:31", "content": "i thought the tv stations sent some kind of signal between the show and commercials, and that’s how the vcr knew how to skip commercials. I never trusted it though, i’d rather record the crap too, so as not to miss anything important, or say it malfunctions and only records the commercials for you, like realplayer does to hulu. nowadays, with torrenting and high speed internet, it is not as necessary, but having the feature in DVR’s would allow one to store more hours of shit you actually intend on watching. compress the advertisements into low resolution animated GIFs, which play while you have your shit paused.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199741", "author": "george", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T05:55:16", "content": "I always liked my 90’s picture-in-picture VCR with recording functionality. That was great fun.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199742", "author": "dude", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T05:58:25", "content": "paid pause commercials. plays only when you hit pause", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "8117374", "author": "Daniel Gooch", "timestamp": "2025-04-10T13:38:23", "content": "Imagine if the advertisers actualy did that…YouTube for smart TVs (I have seen it on Roku) does that already", "parent_id": "199742", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "199781", "author": "Phil", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T08:35:52", "content": "@Marco: I always thought it funny that some stations are quite happily to draw all over the programs they show, but not the precious adverts. Shows you who the real customer is.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199809", "author": "bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T10:06:24", "content": "My gran used to have an old tv with a big chunky remote control. Used ultrasound. Well not that ultra as you could hear it whine…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199863", "author": "Malikaii", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T13:18:09", "content": "@MoJo@jayMagnavox and RCA both had their varieties of Smart Sound in the mid 90s. It reacted to increases in volume and normalized it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199878", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T13:48:52", "content": "There are various programs that scan for commercials and cut them from avi’s and such, that’s what I think the rippers use that put up torrents/usenet shows, and I’m sure they can also simply mark the spots so you can manually verify it doesn’t cut the wrong bits.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200026", "author": "Ian C", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:17:44", "content": "My dear old grandma made one of those for his big mahogany colour set. I made one too but was careful to use only sets with transformers, and not the cheaper ones that had ac running through the ground (having ac in the speaker lines). When grandpa got a new transformerless black plastic monstrosity we tried to hook up a remote speaker and “commercial killer” (as he called it) to the new set. I stupidly had the set on while I was working on the speaker wires, as soon as I touched my soldering iron to them it shorted the set out and it was dead dead dead…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201586", "author": "Aussitech", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T01:20:14", "content": "Actually Bob it wasn’t the output *tubes* that were at risk but the output *transformer*, and as a teen trainee I often had to replace OPT’s in TV’s and radios that had been hacked by people who where not-quite-smart-enough.This still applies to tube-based guitar amps.Elektor published a gizmo a while back that mutes the sound when the watermark vanishes – e.g. during ad’s.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "206356", "author": "Takkelmaggot", "timestamp": "2010-11-01T21:23:19", "content": "I remember a comic book from the Boomer days in which Donald Duck asks Gyro Gearloose to build a similar button which would mute his nephews. Gyro gives a short list of (supposedly) colloquial names for the devices, ending with “a gab-muffer, among other names!”Until I saw this article, that was the only time I’d heard of such a gadget. Not that I was around at the time… this comic belonged to my mother when she was a nipper.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "206448", "author": "Mike Biggs", "timestamp": "2010-11-02T01:57:55", "content": "I actually just built one of these (wireless though) for the exact same reason. Those annoying ads that come on yelling at you to buy a sofa or laptop. So I hacked an old IR remote into the base of one of those big red emergency off buttons found on large machinery. When a loud ad comes on, “BAM! shuddup!” :)Makes me laugh that in 2010 we are still having the same issues.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "206952", "author": "Mattwire.", "timestamp": "2010-11-03T03:14:54", "content": "My aunt and uncle had a VCR with a wired remote control that came with about 20 ft of wire. It was one of the first remote controls I had ever seen and thought it was the neatest thing to not have to get up and go across the room to futz with things, even if the wire was a tripping hazard", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "843691", "author": "andaone", "timestamp": "2012-10-29T18:20:59", "content": "Whoever wrote/published the article in 1954 should see if they can’t get some moneys from Smash Mute (the one-button remote). Seehttp://smashmute.com/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,353.294051
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/18/cheap-and-easy-sms-via-gsm-for-your-mcu/
Cheap And Easy SMS Via GSM For Your MCU
Jakob Griffith
[ "Arduino Hacks" ]
[ "arduino", "gsm", "modem", "rs232", "serial", "sms", "text message" ]
Non acronym version of the title : send and receive text messages via cell phone communication towers using an Arduino or other microcontroller. “We’ve been doing that for years!” you cry, well yes , technically. But [Fincham] lays it outs simply; commercial offerings are expensive and finding a cell phone that uses RS232 now a days is getting difficult, so a new way of doing the same old is necessary. The good news is USB GSM modems are readily available, cheap, and only require a few interface pins to get them talking with an Arduino. In fact, the image above is all you need.
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[ { "comment_id": "198902", "author": "FirefighterGeek", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T22:58:05", "content": "I’m not understanding the advantage here. Presumably you still need to purchase the service contract, yes?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198907", "author": "dext0rb", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T23:11:11", "content": "@FirefighterGeek: I’m assuming you can use a SIM from a pre-paid throw-away cell phone.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198910", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T23:17:55", "content": "@FirefighterGeek probably the compactness and lower power consumption without needing to power a whole phone.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198909", "author": "James", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T23:17:56", "content": "Pay as you go SIMs are free here in the UK from several providers.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198915", "author": "Fincham", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T23:28:07", "content": "I think if you’re planning on adding cellphone communication to a project then you’re going to have to be planning on adding a functional SIM card as well.Locally, I’ve had good success with 2degreesmobile.co.nz, their SIM cards are $2 to $5 and available in supermarkets.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198916", "author": "Stu", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T23:35:27", "content": "I’m wondering about the real differences between these modems and those 3G USB dongles available from pretty much all uk phone networks. Usually made by Huawei. I’d be surprised if a 3G dongle doesn’t also accept AT commands somewhere in the same way.http://www.broadband-expert.co.uk/3g-modem/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198917", "author": "Fisher", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T23:42:13", "content": "So is this how terrorists activate explosives in the movies? :D ( they always turn them on with a phone call or something )", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "1675573", "author": "Dildosh Dildocolos", "timestamp": "2014-07-30T17:02:03", "content": "Ideally, depending on your target, you need a backup method for when they deploy ECM devices to block all external communications. You would want a LOS IR laser for example, if you are targeting someone even somewhat technically proficient. Even the dumbest target can buy cellular scramblers off the internet.", "parent_id": "198917", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "198918", "author": "sidusnare", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T23:42:51", "content": "Does anyone know a good sms only sim card plan from a company that would cover the south east US?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198919", "author": "Fincham", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T23:43:41", "content": "@Stu:I’ve got a few of those Huawei dongles here waiting to be taken apart. I suspect they’re probably made in a more highly integrated way and thus are less likely to have the serial signals available inside as conveniently as the cheap DX model.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198921", "author": "Grazz256", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T23:50:51", "content": "USB 3G dongles do accept AT commands, you actually “dial” them like an old school modem to connect to the network. At least with ZTE modems this is the way they work.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198922", "author": "Grazz256", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T23:53:08", "content": "@Fisher, Wouldn’t it be easier just connect the speaker to the igniter..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198925", "author": "Trollicus", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T23:57:18", "content": "sidusnare, Virgin mobile used to have free sims (http://www.virginmobilefreesim.com/) unfortunately this has ended, (I think they are $10 now) Some(not all ) of the Virgin mobile phones have sims(fortunately it’s the cheaper ones)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198963", "author": "Paul", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T01:40:46", "content": "@Grazz256Not if you need to authenticate the trigger to make sure only you are setting it off.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198986", "author": "MS3FGX", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T02:19:44", "content": "You could set the ringtone for your “trigger” phone number to be a specific frequency that the detonator circuity would respond do; and ignore all other tones.Interesting how this turned into an IED topic…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198997", "author": "Spork", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T02:51:42", "content": "@MS3FGXOr just set it to vibrate for that caller on caller ID, then hook up the vibrate voltage pins to your detonator.Just saying…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199008", "author": "PeachPit", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T03:09:17", "content": "Welcome to the FBI watchlist gentlemen.We have t-shirts!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199017", "author": "Nathan", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T03:21:25", "content": "“In fact, the image above is all you need.”I think I’ve tried everything. No matter what I do with that image, I still can’t send text messages. Can somebody please help me?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199025", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T04:02:18", "content": "I would love to use something like this for remote operation of things. But the problem is no carrier has a plan that doesn’t mind remianing dormant for long peroids of time. AT&T requires at least $25 added to the pay as you go SIM every 60 or 90 days…so you end up wasting a lot of money just to keep the SIM activated.So I’d be very interested in a carrier that did not require this.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199034", "author": "cde", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T04:23:37", "content": "@Mike, most carriers have pre-payed plans that stay active for a year if you get a 50 or 100 dollar card.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199048", "author": "Richard", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T05:18:00", "content": "The comments about them not having a real IEMI are a bit worrying.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199049", "author": "Entropia", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T05:22:21", "content": "Here in Finland we can get GSM subscriptions with like 1000 SMS/mo for 8 EUR/mo (no other fees), and pre-paid SIMs stay active for atleast a year with no money being paid to them.Back to the topic: This is a very interesting post, I will definitely order a few of those modems from DX and see what I can cook up with them! I have been thinking of getting a Telit module, but they’re like three times the price of the DX thing. And if the DX modem uses the BenQ M32 chipset, like suggested on its product review, then it could be a very cheap starting point for developing your own phone since it has voice and data capabilities too.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199066", "author": "Haku", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T06:06:04", "content": "This is exactly the sort of thing you could stick into an electric bike battery pack along with a GPS, I know there’s quite a bit of space in the top of mine, since the power draw should be very low it could be powered 24/7 even if you don’t charge the battery for weeks. A nice security option for helping locate the bike (or at least the battery) in the nasty event of it being stolen.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199070", "author": "elektrophreak", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T06:13:56", "content": "not all USB phones have PL-2303, they just have USB.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199135", "author": "elektrophreak", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T09:10:46", "content": "i just saw that this USB module (not a phone) has TCP/IP stack (socket) support. so, with it’s AT commands you can sand (textual) data to/from a servers, make e-mail clients, web browsers,…this is MUCH cheaper than those GM862 modules for example. so, this is a great find!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199138", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T09:12:30", "content": "I assume this could also be used for GOOD? ;)Pretty simple and effective.Good stuff!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199142", "author": "Zen", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T09:28:12", "content": "Mike:It looks like AT&T has a 2 dollar a day plan that might be just the ticket for someone letting it sit from their web site…**$2/day charged only on days phone is used to make or receive a voice call (including a call to voice mailbox), use IM, or send a text or picture/video/sound message.So it’s only $2 on the day you use it.Sounds good to me.Z", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199183", "author": "fartface", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T11:45:44", "content": "Any geek that is not a n00b knows how to get a rs232 controlled celular module for cheapish. Sparkfun has several..How about something useful. a sim based cellphone service that is not massively overpriced for sms and data only use? anyone find what prepaid services that use sim cards and will work in non approved devices?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199196", "author": "M4CGYV3R", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T12:16:58", "content": "Can we get a pinout for those of us who DON’T use suckduino?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199200", "author": "andres", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T12:22:40", "content": "@M4CGYV3Rwhat more do they need. rx tx power and gnd are labeled. what do you want?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199224", "author": "Faelenor", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T13:23:04", "content": "@andres: M4CGYV3R just wanted to show us how superior he is and how people using Arduino suck.I’m getting really tired of all this Arduino hate thing…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199225", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T13:43:01", "content": "@fartfaceShow me a solution from sparkfun that already has a power connector, sim card slot, and solderable points for $25. I’m not seeing anything ready to go for less than $100.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199226", "author": "Kevin", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T13:47:18", "content": "Anybody know of a good pay-as-you-go provider that (1) doesn’t require a $100+ initial investment, and(2) doesn’t require a monthly/60-day/90-day addition of minutes?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199228", "author": "morgauxo", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T13:55:58", "content": "Is anyone else starting to get annoyed with the way geek sites (not just Hackaday) pick almost random parts of summaries to use for links?It’s great that a summary links not only to the article but also background material. It’s not so great when it’s hard to even figure out before clicking which one is the main article. Even worse when it’s still not obvious after clicking.I’m thinking a prominent title which links to the actual article would be great. Background links could be listed at the bottom with actual text telling where they go and why.If one really want’s the background links to be tied to the sentence they apply to in the summary they could be numbered. Just insert the number as superscript and make it a hyperlink that scrolls the page down to the link itself.I’m not trying to pick on this article or Hackaday. I see this all over the place.This is just my opinion. Maybe it’s just me and everyone else loves the sense of exploration when they get to see where links like ‘well yes’ lead to…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199229", "author": "jmc", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T13:59:48", "content": "@andres“…what do you want?”He wants to sound superior by jumping on the anti-arduino bandwagon.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199231", "author": "JimSocks", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T14:00:32", "content": "Why is this limited to SMS? If you ran SLIP (http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Code/SerialIP), couldn’t you do pretty much any network operation?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199232", "author": "KC8RWR", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T14:20:00", "content": "Wow, this could be useful for all sorts of projects. Thanks for posting this. I wish I had seen something like this before I bought my Droid. I always wanted to turn my Zaurus into a cellphone.@JimSocks, I would think this would work for anything that the sim card enables. Looking at the datasheet it seems like everything is there, even audio. I wonder how hard it would be to access the pins.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199236", "author": "sneakypoo", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T14:46:14", "content": "@morgauxo: No, you are not alone. I’ve been annoyed by that for a very long time and I believe I even ranted about it on here a while ago (might’ve been somewhere else, I was probably tired at the time, that’s how it usually goes…).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199249", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T15:10:39", "content": "@morgauxo: yes I agree. I don’t care for the “hunt for the main link” inline links. The choice of words linked to the main article in this post is particularly bad.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199253", "author": "Rollyn01", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T15:22:51", "content": "Could this be made to be iDEN-capable? ‘Cus that would really kickass if I can throw my boostmobile card in a phone of my design. *imagining the possibilities*", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199288", "author": "Jakob Griffith", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T16:58:48", "content": "@Mike:@sneakypoo:@morgauxo:The first link in EVERY* article on Hack-A-Day is the “main link”. Thus solving all complaints.Jakob GriffithHAD Team*since 2009", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199402", "author": "lwatcdr", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T20:43:57", "content": "Actually this post has info on a cheap US sim SMS sim deal with tmobile for $15 a month for unlimted SMS. It also has GPS as well as SMS. This looks like a lower cost solution but there is good info in both posts.http://hackaday.com/2010/09/08/location-tracking-with-twitter-and-google-maps/@M4CGYV3RUmm maybe you should stick with the Arduino or the Basic Samp. The pin outs are a typical 3.3v RS-232 interface + a 5 volt vcc in and ground…Umm… You could even hook this up to a RS-232 on a PC with with some level converters with no real problem.Heck even a C64 with no real effort.Just what do you want to use if you can not deal with this simple of an interface?I mean do you just like complaining without reason about a post just because it mentions the Arduino?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200055", "author": "mk", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:56:22", "content": "@Nathan: “I think I’ve tried everything. No matter what I do with that image, I still can’t send text messages. Can somebody please help me?”How very Rene Magritte of you. Ceci n’est pas une pipe, indeed.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200113", "author": "Rob J.", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T20:24:06", "content": "I bought one. Waiting for it to arrive in the mail.Anyone have an idea about the signal strength of the device? Hopefully no serious antenna hacks are needed.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "212832", "author": "Spangen", "timestamp": "2010-11-15T10:29:38", "content": "If you want to experiment a little with this modem, and a terminal program. It’s nice to be able to just plug it into the USB port. Here’s a little trick that will make the driver routine cleaner for “hackish” use.Out of the box, the modem registeres as a GPRS609 USB Modem, and only the supplied driver will work. With this driver, the thing will register as a modem in windoze, not as a generic com port. The generic PL2303 driver will not work.The PL2303 USB-serial chip in this thing has an option to use an external serial eeprom to hold id information for the USB part. This id is what connects the chip to the right driver.Now, looking at the card, there is a little 8 pin IC (SO8 SMD chip, eeprom from Atmel I think) By removing this chip (apply extra solder to all 8 legs, pinch with two cheep soldering irons, and lift of the board) the PL2303 no longer has OEM ID, and will work with the generic PL2303 driver.The modem will now register on your computer as a generic serial port, and you can experiment with all the AT commands in a terminal window.The PL2303 generic driver can be downloaded fromhttp://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/downloads.asp?ID=31Enjoy..PS: Now, for the adventourous, if you lift the PL2303 TX, and RX pins from the circuit board, and bring wires to the pins and pads externally, you have a combined TTL generic USB to Serial module, and a SMS/modem in one small package..Best regards from NorwaySpangen", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "214774", "author": "Fincham", "timestamp": "2010-11-19T00:42:35", "content": "Looks like I messed up on my schematics. RXD and TXD should be the other way around on the PL2303 pad connections.PL2303 pad “RXD” corresponds to “TXD” on the M32 module, and vice versa. Switch things up appropriately if you build this :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "249227", "author": "Yossarian", "timestamp": "2010-12-05T04:55:48", "content": "Has anyone got this to work?I’m in North America and I put in a Tracfone SIM into the device, detects the SIM, everything is fine but I can’t make calls, send SMS, etc…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "256385", "author": "Spangen", "timestamp": "2010-12-06T08:49:41", "content": "\\\\Yossarian:I got the same dissapointing result here i norway, put in several different Telenor SIM cards, the SIM is registered, but I do not get access to the GSM network. When requesting GSM status via AT command, I get status “3”, meaning unable to register with network..Seems like the module does not have a valid IMEI, and the network refuses to register it. Some networks requires a valid IMEI, some don’t..To bad, would have been a great module, just glad I ordered one first, and not ten right away..BR", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "287603", "author": "hudson", "timestamp": "2010-12-21T20:26:34", "content": "Have you looked into other usb dongles? I just tried using the AT commands with a huwawei e160e with success even though it uses the Qualcomm MSM6246 to directly interface with the USB. Using the same commands you gave on your website, I can send messages with no problems. I will look into connecting an FTDI USB board to allow to directly connect the dongle to a microcontroller without any soldering/tampering.Anyway, thanks for the awesome advice.Hudson", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "287605", "author": "hudson", "timestamp": "2010-12-21T20:28:43", "content": "correction it’s the HUAWEI E160E and orange uk usually include them with cheap bundles.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "321029", "author": "gant", "timestamp": "2011-02-02T09:51:09", "content": "It seems easier to use a usb host, as you are likely to damage the modem when soldering!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,353.378742
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/18/data-confirmation-with-rf-communications/
Data Confirmation With RF Communications
Mike Szczys
[ "Wireless Hacks" ]
[ "arduino", "java", "radio frequency", "receiver", "RF", "transmitter" ]
[Rafael] built a system that uses radio frequency for communications. The code he was using with the inexpensive receiver/transmitter pairs already had some error correction but from time to time an entire message would be missed by the receiver. He set out to make these RF communications more robust . A little more than a year ago we looked at using these same transmitters with an Arduino . [Rafael] has a similar setup but since they are unidirectional he chose to use two pairs for bidirectional communication (each operating at a different frequency to avoid interference). On one end, a computer transmits data to the Arduino which is in a remote location. His confirmation protocol relies on a randomly generated message identifier. The computer will continually transmit the same message. The Arduino continually receives these messages, comparing them with the last successfully received message. If they match, it is considered a successful data transfer and the Arduino transmits a confirmation back to the computer which then starts transmitting the next message. This isn’t an application-specific protocol. For demonstration purposes [Rafael] built a quick home automation setup that uses it to operate a house lamp.
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[ { "comment_id": "198827", "author": "Jonathan", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T20:11:53", "content": "I had thought about doing something with units like this when I was in college to try and make a wireless usb interface.Pretty cool setup though. This would be great for robotics to control the bot and get data back from sensors.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198829", "author": "therian", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T20:13:46", "content": "here is great example why Arduino is evil, ever hear of Manchester code ? the one used almost in every digital device that communicate with outside for error correction", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198830", "author": "Abbott", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T20:24:03", "content": "Um… I don’t really see the hack here… He simply used an offset frequency… I hate to dog, but seriously, a hack would have been if he created his own RF transmitter. (I haven’t yet, but I’ve thought about it, so don’t tell me to show mine)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198832", "author": "Steve", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T20:30:58", "content": "therian is right, you are supposed to use Manchester Encoding when using these transmitters to eliminate any potential DC bias.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_code", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198836", "author": "nes", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T20:53:49", "content": "I don’t think DC bias will adversely affect these as they are designed for direct computer communication. If it’s required (which I doubt, seeing as the data is modulated onto a carrier anyway), presumably the modules take care of any Manchester encoding themselves.Simply repeating the transmitted data packet to check for discrepancy is wasteful though: minimum 100% redundancy and no chance of error correction if a bit is flipped. Far more efficient would be to hash or checksum the data and transmit that sequentially.Or better still would be to add some forward error correction (Viterbi would be a good choice) to the packet so the listener has a chance to correct any errors locally before requesting retransmission.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198861", "author": "Ulrich Lukas", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T21:20:05", "content": "avr-libc has CRC-16 already implemented…As to Viterbi, especially the decoding, thisis one of the most ressource-consuming algorithmsfor forward error correction…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198863", "author": "untrustworthy", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T21:22:23", "content": "therian needs to STFU. He’s nothing but a troll and a wannabe engineer with no experience and no creativity.What this guy did is in the true spirit of hacking. He didn’t know how to do something, and came up with an idea to experiment with, and achieved his goal using resources around him. Now he can continue to experiment and learn some more.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198865", "author": "Jake", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T21:25:24", "content": "Wow, what an incredibly inefficient error correction method. Not to mention the fact that these are off-the-shelf RF transmitters that have not been modified. Where is the hack, again?I move that this ‘hack’ be deleted. It’s embarrassing to read.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198876", "author": "asheets", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T21:51:11", "content": "It looks like somebody “reinvented” FEC or SITOR-B. What’s the baud rate of these devices?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198883", "author": "Ulrich Lukas", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T21:51:37", "content": "@Jake: Can you reveal your measure of efficiency?Getting things done with the least amount of effort _is_ efficient.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198885", "author": "andrew", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T21:56:00", "content": "I don’t know what you’re smoking, but manchester coding is not used in “almost every digital device that communicates with outside” — Manchester coding is a(n ancient) means of coding a signal so that the clock can be recovered and it is terribly wasteful of bandwidth. Throwing a simple ECC code on top of your packet would go a long way in increasing the reliability without adding lengthy turnaround delays for acknowledgement.Any microcontroller could implement it and it’d be fairly straightforward with an Arduino. -1 for the article though. No clear explanations, no conclusions, hell no schematics showing what he did with the diode or other hardware to increase reliability. 30 more minutes would have given him a great article and reference for others.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198892", "author": "Joe", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T22:22:18", "content": "I don’t know what you’re smoking andrew but i wish you would share.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198898", "author": "therian", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T22:50:33", "content": "@andrewYou right that it ancient and original Manchester code might not be used so widely today but its variations are base for any communication.And terribly wasteful of bandwidth is sending repeated data all the time@AbbottIm trying to create super-cheap transmitter/receiver link from scratch too, transmitters are not the problem but receivers are, so far simple circuits like regenerative or super regenerative are bad solutions today in crowded spectrum other methods require much complicated circuits but I found one old and forgotten method to decode frequency modulation by creating weak Q frequency generator so when it sense outside frequency that is close to its own it locks on it, by changing frequency transistor change current consumption just a little but it enough to detect signal. here circuit I play with so far results are great but whole circuit need good shielding to work :https://sites.google.com/site/lionmax/PhaseAutoFrequencyTracking.gif", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198906", "author": "sneakypoo", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T23:07:21", "content": "Never again will I touch those damn transmitters. Recycle some bottles if you have to but save up a few more bucks and get a unit that does the error checking for you. I know, I shouldn’t be saying such crazy things on HaD but damn, those things are annoying.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198911", "author": "Ben", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T23:18:39", "content": "While the method described might not be the most efficient, I think that the creator has done a great job of quickly solving a problem he was having with the hardware he already had. The purpose of the Arduino is to let people without a Master’s degree in Computer Engineering play with microcontrollers, so when a quick solution pops up instead of an “efficient” one, that shouldn’t be surprising and it shouldn’t be put down. I think it is great to make suggestions for improvement, but to call someones project “embarrassing” when they have put their hard work into it is truly embarrassing.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198932", "author": "therian", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T00:15:57", "content": "“the creator has done a great job of quickly solving a problem he was having”dont you think about others? he solve the problem for himself but create one for others by completely taking whole channel to himself and blocking it for others", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198947", "author": "rallen", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T00:45:39", "content": "Why are the “Professional” engineers bagging on the author? Because it’s not up to their “Professional” standards? How about some of you *fine* people show me how well you code 3D graphics in assembler? or how well your holographic display is coming? or how well your DIY .0001″ accuracy gantry mill is cutting stainless steel?Not everyone here has the resources or training to do everything to “Professional” standards. If that’s what you’re expecting, why the h*ll are you even reading a site called “HACK-a-day”?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198959", "author": "Jerome Demers", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T01:36:08", "content": "@rallen the *fine* people want others to know that there is better and more efficient way to do stuff.If your a newbie and see something here, you probably say, “oh that is the way to go, I will use the same techniques in my next project.” With the comments, you can give feedback and explain that cyclic redundancy check (CRC) or polynomial code checksum is the way to go in wireless communication.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198978", "author": "Leigh", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T02:08:40", "content": "I used these same devices inhttp://hackaday.com/tag/marauders-map/For DC restoration (Manchester code) I looked atdoing it in the limited Picaxe code, but I realized I could just code up my constants in a balanced format (0x55, for example).Leigh/WA5ZNU", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198981", "author": "Raphael", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T02:12:29", "content": "Well,I think i have something to say here.@Jonathan, thanks.@Jake, it’s not an error correction method, it’s an error detection method, and it may not be the best one but it worked for the kind of application i was working on.@asheets, up to 2400bps, i used 1200bps.@sneakypoo, i thought about using XBee, but, as you said, they’re a little bit more expensive.@@rallen, i’m already working on using CRC16 instead.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199032", "author": "xorpunk", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T04:18:28", "content": "I think these sparkfun RF units can be done with less passive components, and this protocol can be done more efficiently..I have spoken.but seriously why is there no open source UART RF transmitters? They are cheap to make and really useful..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199108", "author": "nes", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T07:57:59", "content": "@xorpunk: I think it might be simpler to start with a microcontroller with the radio already built in. The TI CC1110 immediately springs to mind, and an im-me will give you two of them plus a USB interface. Perhaps it would be nice if the Arduino framework could be ported to it one day, but I guess it’s a non starter as they are 8051 based and not supported with a c++ compiler.http://hackaday.com/tag/im-me/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199112", "author": "smoker_dave", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T08:20:40", "content": "“The purpose of the Arduino is to let people without a Master’s degree in Computer Engineering play with microcontrollers”I never read such crazy talk in my life…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199165", "author": "Salvador Faria", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T10:57:27", "content": "VirtualWire has a server-client implementation which i could not be able to put it working :|.However, i’m receiver/transmitter (one way method). I send the same message for 8 times with the same id, which increases the accept success rate.msg_id:node_id:parameter_id:parameter_value", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199213", "author": "mfsamuel", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T12:55:42", "content": "@rallen is right.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199250", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T15:12:08", "content": "@xorpunk“no open source UART RF transmitters?”I guess it’s because a lot of people see it as trivial, and a lot of people see it as voodoo, and the vast majority are content to use “established off the shelf standard units” from various places. For the newbies, here’s the 411:The UART is easy – whether built into the system or implemented in software – especially if you’re just sending data in packets, or fixed length bursts. Robustness is something else altogether – you need error detection, at least, and maybe correction [pain in the ass, generally] and maybe bidirectional communications. All a uart does is take a digital word or byte and pass the status of the 1s or 0s sequentially to the output pin, or take the input and stick it into a word or byte for later use. We generally do this at a fixed rate using a timer, but there are other methods using clock signals and so forth.Bidirectional full-duplex communications is a pain to implement without hardware help, but it makes an excellent introduction to the joy of realtime programming. Bidirectional half-duplex communications is less of a pain, but when radio or other uncertain transmission media are added to the mix, well, you tend to get a little crazy.Anyway, to get back on topic, RF transmission of data boils down to picking a modulation and demodulation method, piping it to and from the radio and getting on with the job. Therian actually raises a good point, even if his grasp of the subject appears hampered… It can be worth trying to minimize your usage of an RF channel for a lot of reasons.If you just want to bang data around, I suggest buying a couple of the cheap prebuilt modules. On the other hand, if you feel that hacking is the way to go, just find any circuit for an FM or AM transmitter and receiver pair. These can be built with one or two transistors if you don’t mind the awful side effects of drift. Given a wide enough bandwidth, it can work at low data rates (300 baud, anyone? 110? 75? ) and at a single digit baud rate, you can get pretty lax with your circuits.Most people go for crystal or resonator controlled transmitters to avoid the pain. So you can build a bad ass low frequency FM or AM transmitter with a crystal, some logic gates and a few components – especially if you like really fat channels and lots of harmonics. The schematic is pretty simple – one quad NAND gate chip in the cmos family will get you all the way to the FM broadcast range and beyond. The 555 is usable, but isn’t a good design choice outside of audio ranges.So if you want to modulate it, you can just gate it on and off. This isn’t very sophisticated. We really want FSK or quadrature to get anything done, so now you have to be able to shift the frequency rather than turn it on or off. To do this, we need a little more gating and maybe another oscillator.I can’t be bothered to do this*, so it’s easier to just program the mcu to pump out the modulation frequency directly by using a timer in the MCU. Then you can connect this to the aforementioned oscillator circuit, and now you have all kinds of options for modulation.(*actually, this is all historical.)But to give a wink at therian, you now have to worry about reducing the bandwidth and removing all those harmonics that cause interference. This means putting filters on the circuit so that what gets to the antenna isn’t all over the place. Think of it as focusing a light to a narrow beam.The receive side is simply the reverse process.You don’t need radio to play with this code, it can be quite instructive to try and test your ideas using a microphone and speaker connected to input and output pins.Figuring out how to get usable audio from a microphone into a single input pin on a microprocessor constitutes an excellent and complete introductory course on signal processing, as you learn that PWM is magic!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199252", "author": "Center", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T15:18:43", "content": "PCB size was too small to made? I also want to do a small size one.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199270", "author": "Terry", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T16:18:06", "content": "I finally jumped on buying a pair of these in each freq. I’ve had a bunch of wireless uC projets in mind but a wifi subsystem is too expensive to deploy about 10 small sensors around my house. This looks perfect and if I can get clean code examples I can probably replicate his design in about 2 hours and have 10 sensors transmitting to 1 receiver that delivers the sensor data via /dev/ttyUSB0.Maybe it’s not the textbook example of efficiency in RF code design but it’s cheap and possibly quite reusable for a variety of projects.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199317", "author": "Raphael", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T17:58:56", "content": "For those interested, here’s a second post on the protocol.http://arduitter.blogspot.com/2010/10/rf-links-reliable-messaging-part-2.html", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199357", "author": "Mariano Alvira", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T19:24:31", "content": "If you want easy RF, bundled with a good ARM7 microcontroller, then consider the mc13224v:http://mc1322x.devl.orgIf you need reliable transmission, run Contiki and use with TCP with 6lowpan or runicast with RIME. 802.15.4 is nice too since it has a lot of redundancy at the radio layer and so can handle a few bad bits per symbol.Chips are $5. My dev boards are $55.And making your own digital receiver is hard — but fun. I’ll post my 27MHz tran and recv soon. The baseband processor is an AT90USB so all the AVR guys can go nuts. Setting everything to be exactly the same frequency, with zero drift, and dealing with the phasing is a lot to do… and that’s just scratching the surface.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199415", "author": "therian", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T21:24:20", "content": "@Bilbao bobNotice that LC tank run on 1/2 of receiving frequency so harmonics are not the problem, this is why I love that little circuit", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199451", "author": "fartface", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T01:00:44", "content": "in other words, he invented the RS232 protocol.Congrats! Computer scientists from the 1950’s would be proud of you!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199527", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T02:29:19", "content": "@therianEarly radio telemetry often used LC swamping for modulation. I haven’t heard that phrase in a very long time… nobody uses it any more. I guess we could rig up a coherer circuit with a pager vibrator and get single digit baud rates. That’d be a hack.Y’all want a great and easy low speed FSK circuit? look up kansas city standard. Couple of parts on either end, provides level balance and handles all manner of channel degradation. Downside – 300 baud. But 300 baud is pretty good. Works like gangbusters if you want a low speed optical connection as well. It even works with really crappy inductive systems.On a related dregs-of-computing note, I once saw a data isolator in a cooling chamber that worked using a tiny heating coil and a thermistor through a heat pipe. I cannot guess what the point was, but it was some kind of fail safe. Most asinine thing I ever saw, but it was surprising that anyone would even think of this.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199854", "author": "salec", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T12:40:39", "content": "@bilbao bobGood idea using a microphone and speaker. It also quickly teaches the virtue of not hogging the channel bandwidth: “What? WHAT? I CAN’T HEAR YOU, BLOODY SENSORS HAVE BEEN CHIRPING ALL DAY!”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "203670", "author": "niall", "timestamp": "2010-10-27T13:54:17", "content": "i wonder would i be able 2 use this 4 my 3rd year project,im doing goal line technology a chip in a football & a reciver in the goals so when the ball crosses the line it will send a message to let it know it crossed the line any suggestions?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,353.113385
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/18/3d-printing-with-lego/
3D Printing With LEGO
Mike Szczys
[ "Toy Hacks" ]
[ "3d printer", "lego", "makerbot", "MLCAD", "nxt", "reprap" ]
With 2400 LEGO bricks and a lot of patience, [Will Gorman] built a LEGO 3D printer . It’s similar to a RepRap or a Makerbot, but instead of extruding plastic, it uses pre-extruded building blocks (aka LEGO bricks).  The grey wall extending far above the unit itself is a feed magazine which holds the raw material. A Java application takes an MLCad file and translates it into building instructions for the printer. Those instructions are then sent to the device via USB. See it happen after the break. Now this just needs to be combined with the LEGO sorting machine for an inexhaustible supply of bricks. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YZeX8ti7Io]
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[ { "comment_id": "198815", "author": "Astronouth7303", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T19:14:42", "content": "I would like to point out that it’s an LDraw file. MLCad merely uses it, like a half-dozen other programs.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198817", "author": "Jon King", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T19:35:00", "content": "This thing is made of win. If you disagree, you are a terrorist.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198818", "author": "Doublet", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T19:35:15", "content": "Lol, at such a speed, the servos really sound like a real printer :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198822", "author": "spiderwebby", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T19:55:58", "content": "Damn you Gorman!!!see:http://flic.kr/p/8DXBpL", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198823", "author": "spiderwebby", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T19:58:07", "content": "*actually reads post*Ah..*withdraws above statement*", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198824", "author": "Rachel", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T20:03:01", "content": "Lego bricks are moulded, not extruded. This is more of a Lego pick-and-place.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198825", "author": "3-R4Z0R", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T20:03:53", "content": "This thing is sooo cool. Almost unbelievable!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198828", "author": "phil", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T20:13:38", "content": "so roughly 2.5 minutes at 16x speed means it took almost 40 minutes to make this house? not bad for legos.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198835", "author": "ursua", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T20:45:30", "content": "simpli the coolest and more awsome ting never seen made from lego, COOL", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198837", "author": "xeracy", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T20:53:59", "content": "yo dawg…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198838", "author": "xeracy", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T20:54:57", "content": "@spiderwebby – holy smokes! is that a viable reprap?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198853", "author": "Marco", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T21:11:25", "content": "Given Lego pricing it would probably be cheaper to build a reprap and extrude lego bricks with it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198864", "author": "vonskippy", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T21:24:33", "content": "Lego freaks are just to weird to comprehend.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198913", "author": "kronos", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T23:22:32", "content": "lol legos ftwspeed ftl", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198934", "author": "dombeef", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T00:24:21", "content": "What if it could extrude plastic? then i would make it", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199001", "author": "Sootie", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T02:55:08", "content": "Kinda takes the fun out of playing with lego doesnt it", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199035", "author": "Pb", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T04:25:25", "content": "If it could make a copy of itself, I’d be really impressed.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199098", "author": "Kaijuu", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T07:40:33", "content": "Cool design. :)During Lego World in The Netherlands(starts the day after tomorrow), a similar device will be on display, building a design with 59 parts in about 40 minutes.One of the users at Eurobricks designed and built it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199126", "author": "koen", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T08:54:31", "content": "@dombeefThe Reprap people would probably call it a LegoStrap or something but only after it has proven to print at least one part of a reprap by showing a youtube video..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199191", "author": "Winston", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T12:07:06", "content": "So have we now reached the lego singularity? Lego building more lego?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199237", "author": "Squirrel", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T14:47:26", "content": "I’d almost call this more of a Pick and Place machine rather than a 3D printer. Or maybe it’s some type of cross-breed…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199254", "author": "Rollyn01", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T15:34:45", "content": "So then it’s ok to say “I just lego’d” instead of “I just s^!T a brick”?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199273", "author": "Grovenstien", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T16:30:03", "content": "I just love the subtle flexing of the gantry when that mother lays a brick!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199276", "author": "GRabo", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T16:40:15", "content": "An absolutely amazing piece of work. Would be cool to have a multi color and multi variety of lego bricks.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199280", "author": "Hirudinea", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T16:43:00", "content": "@WinstonYep, its the begining of the legopalypse!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199335", "author": "Link", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T18:28:43", "content": "Lets just hope this device never becomes self- aware", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "381456", "author": "E.", "timestamp": "2011-04-16T17:11:44", "content": "Can we have a cost list, parts list, and building instructions please? Because I would build this.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,353.491323
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/18/data-plotting-for-the-visually-impaired/
Data Plotting For The Visually Impaired
Mike Szczys
[ "Multitouch Hacks" ]
[ "arduino", "cluster", "data", "plot", "visually impaired", "zigbee" ]
This setup helps to represent data in a meaningful way to for visually impaired people. It uses a combination of physical objects to represent data clusters, and audio feedback when manipulating those objects. In the video after the break you’ll see that the cubes can orient themselves to represent data clusters. The table top acts as a graphing field, with a textured border as a reference for the user. A camera mounted below the clear surface allows image processing software to calculate the locations for the cubes. Each cube is motorized and contains an Arduino and ZigBee module, listening for positioning information from the computer that is doing the video processing. Once in position, the user can move the cubes, with modulated noise as a measure of how near they are to the heart of each data cluster. The team plans to conduct further study on the usefulness of this interactive data object. We certainly see potential for hacking as this uses off-the-shelf components that are both inexpensive, and easy to find. It certainly reminds us of a multitouch display with added physical tokens . [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibnz3poa9RU] [Thanks UrsusExplorans]
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[ { "comment_id": "198819", "author": "d01", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T19:39:02", "content": "cool idea though it hurt my eardrums :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199041", "author": "Colin", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T05:04:01", "content": "That’s a really cool and interesting way to interact with the data. While they may be able to improve the audio feedback (so it doesn’t hurt d01’s eardrums) it’s a great proof of concept.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199134", "author": "UrsusExplorans", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T09:07:26", "content": "Thank you very much for posting this!Just a little correction: The pitch of the “modulated noise” (a sawtooth synthesizer) is not mapped to the distance between prototype of the cluster and the object, but to the local data density in the neighborhood of the object.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199284", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T16:53:21", "content": "Completely fake demonstration, you can see him position his fingers before touching the cubes and even move his hand in the right shape to hold it up before even sensing it.That blindfold wasn’t on for that test once they switched to the top view.And it’s not like we are forcing them but why do an initial shot of him supposedly having a blindfold? Bit lame and not a real test, they won’t learn the flaws and issues that way either.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,353.772372
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/18/halloween-props-dancing-spider/
Halloween Props: Dancing Spider
Mike Szczys
[ "home hacks" ]
[ "12f683", "Halloween props", "mosfet", "pic" ]
[Isaac] grabbed the motor from an old printer and used it to make a spider run up and down the wall for Halloween. A PIC 12F683 uses a MOSFET to drive the motor. The program loop has a little bit of dramatic flare to it, raising the arachnid with a bit of a jerky motion to give it some life, then wait for a time before quietly lowering the spider (hopefully onto an unsuspecting party-goer).  The driver board is set up for two motors, making it easy to reuse in future projects. This is quite effective, and the only addition we might suggest is to add a couple of red LEDs as some glowing eyes. Take a look at the finished product after the break. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl839oufN3g]
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[ { "comment_id": "198758", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T16:48:14", "content": "Dear hackaday editorial staff…If you want to stop your social media experiment from becoming a sodden mess of SEO spam (without a nickle coming from it), you should probably turn off links in user names.http://hackaday.com/2010/10/15/adafruit-industries-opens-a-job-board/#comment-198529Sooner or later you’ll need moderation, which is sad, but you need a method for gutting obvious advertising spam. The guys who manipulate social media for SEO are pretty good at it.You can spot them by their history of single sentence content-free comments, designed to let them establish sleeper accounts… and by their linked to websites.I wish I could offer advice, especially since I’d never create or log into an account for posting. The folks at serverfault have a decent method – you can hop on, post a few things, and then use your rep to post more. It isn’t very favorable to trolls and cranks like me, but it’s a good compromise.While I wish that comments could be edited by the possessor of the magic cookie, the biggest issue is that you should be prepared for the SEO attacks that you’re now facing.Welcome to the big boy’s table! :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "198800", "author": "Caleb Kraft", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T18:56:26", "content": "@bilbao bob,it is amazing how many of these slip past our scanner. I moderate 99% of them out (tons a day). Sometimes they slip through. This isn’t particularly new here, but has definitely increased in the past year.", "parent_id": "198758", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "198777", "author": "Sprite_tm", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T17:31:50", "content": "bilbao bob: Those seo guys are testing if their method works, or otherwise completely retarded: HaD adds rel=nofollow to their links so Google doesn’t do anything with it; as far as I know no SEO can be gained from linking in that fashion.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198813", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T19:10:18", "content": "I am confused….Anyway, about the spider, nice hack but F EVERYTHING ABOUT THAT. lol", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,353.676057
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/17/hackaday-links-october-17-2010/
Hackaday Links: October 17, 2010
Mike Szczys
[ "Hackaday links" ]
[ "card", "magnetic", "scanner", "sentry" ]
Cards you should crank These greeting cards must be the product of a mechanical engineer run amok. They come with a crank and are designed to entertain with their simple, yet elegant movements. [Thanks Phil] Magnetic card stripe reader [JP] built an Arduino based magnetic card reader . It uses off-the-shelf parts but if you don’t mind buying the components this will get you up and running in no time. If you want more info there’s also this Teensy based version . Homemade Airsoft sentry gun This sentry gun has an amazingly fast firing rate that can continue for quite a while, thanks to the big flashlight housing that is holds a lot of ammo. [Thanks David] Scanner easter egg The engineers over at HP had a little fun building an easter egg into this scanner . If you know what you’re doing you can get it to play the Ode to Joy. It needs to join the old-hardware band from our Links post earlier in the month. [Thanks Googfan]
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[ { "comment_id": "198429", "author": "someone", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T21:29:37", "content": "I’ll be the one; the scanner is not a hack. It was made to do that.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198437", "author": "Dr.Evil", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T22:14:15", "content": "The scanner one is also a very old “hack”.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198444", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T22:55:03", "content": "OTS is cool if you can pull it off.It’s assembling the OTS stuff in interesting and provocative ways that can make it worth the money.Neat projects all!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198453", "author": "xorpunk", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T23:41:29", "content": "All cool. The CC reader and cards that show mechanical and reverse engineering are the most intriguing.I’m glad you can’t clone debit and credit cards anymore(unless you can emulate the new security bank that is hard-encoded and not on any open-market cards).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198484", "author": "Lank", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T02:20:05", "content": "This is cool, but old as hell. I knew about this in the 1990s.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198486", "author": "Hirudinea", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T02:47:52", "content": "Those kenetic crank cards are neat, I think the yike-a-cycle card could be made into a record player card (very short play), and that would be much cooler than those stupid musical cards they have now.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198488", "author": "thetruthhertz", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T02:56:10", "content": "In a world where benchmarks have decayed to the lowest common denominator… where shellacked dead puppies, vandalized rail cars, and crucifixes floating in jars of piss are considered “art,” my vote goes to the mechanical greeting cards.The idea is original, the artwork is beautiful, the mechanisms are ingenious, and watching them operate is sheer pleasure.I wonder what this guy could do with a pager motor and a lithium coin cell.Bravo, sir. I have your site bookmarked and expect to share it– a lot. I hope it goes viral.Hz", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198515", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T05:28:32", "content": "@someoneclearly your a moronscanners were not meant to play ode to joyany one know how he built the airsoft gun?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198531", "author": "therian", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T06:44:13", "content": "@biozzyou fail, this one was made to play ode to joy", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198543", "author": "Tom", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T07:34:28", "content": "@biozzNo, no this one was designed to play Ode to Joy", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198612", "author": "taylorian", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T10:28:43", "content": "sheez,,,if any of you would read…the scanner is not a hack…it is an easter egg….something that requires other than usual usage to reveal. it is included because of its similarity to hacks that do the same thing.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198658", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T12:23:49", "content": "@Tom@therianits a scanner … making it do anything else but scan is by definition a hack … if it was a scanner and ode to joy player than it would not becracking eastereggs is still hacking even if its easy … grow up", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198661", "author": "Pix3l the B1t", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T12:41:27", "content": "Those cards are pure genius! All of that engineering in a tiny card :D especially the rotary engine, I could just sit for days watching it go :pThe Airsoft sentry gun is awesome… and the portal turret noises make it even more so :). all somebody needs to do now is make the scanner play “Still Alive” :p", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198696", "author": "chango", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T15:18:24", "content": "@Pix3l: Not a scanner, but I’m sure it would sound just like this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKCX1CeXIjA", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "199119", "author": "Pix3l the B1t", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T08:48:42", "content": "Oh my god that is so epic! We have one of these at school (not the exact same one though); I’d laugh so hard if I got it to do that :pP.S. I think that I have a new hobby ^_^", "parent_id": "198696", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "198784", "author": "bobdole", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T18:13:31", "content": "@biozz:I have a mouse for my computer whose LED color changes when you press a button. Is that a hack? That’s what the button was designed to do, and when I press it, the color changes. Just because most mice don’t have that button, doesn’t mean that pressing it is “hacking”.Anyways, still an interesting video. I didn’t know these scanners had this easter egg.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198788", "author": "SOI Sentinel", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T18:29:02", "content": "Wow, those cards are beautiful.@boizz: from the parts list, it looks like the airsoft gun is using a machined vortex block. They are feeding in compressed air or CO2 to fuel it. The air spins some BBs around until they happen to hit the exit to the brake line barrel, and out they fly. VERY air hungry. Not exactly consistent ROF but you’d never really notice since it has huge volume. The explosions are definitely happening because he’s getting jams in the barrel, which clogs and lets the pressure build up in his gun, and the lowest strength parts goes flying. Looks like the top to his hopper. Of course, this also sends BBs everywhere. Because it’s a constant air feed system, you also need the top to keep it from randomly sending BBs into the local area.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199268", "author": "chango", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T16:14:44", "content": "@biozz Actually HP did publish documentation on how to play music with this scanner, including SCSI commands to play certain notes:http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/97feb/feb97a8.htm", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,353.63424
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/17/master-clock-system-uses-all-logic-no-microcontrollers/
Master Clock System Uses All Logic, No Microcontrollers
Mike Szczys
[ "clock hacks" ]
[ "atomic", "clock", "digital logic", "master" ]
What you see above is a master clock. It is the center of a system that can run an unlimited number of slave clocks, keeping them on-time thanks to its ability to synchronize with an atomic clock. [Brett Oliver] put together the project back in 2005 using digital logic chips, and no programmable microcontrollers. This includes everything from the binary decoders that drive the 7-segment displays, to the radio transceiver board that gathers the atomic clock data, to the various dividers that output 1 second, 2 second, 30 second, 1 minute, 1 hour, and 24 hour signal pulses. It’s  a well document and fascinating read if you’re interested in digital logic clocks .
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[ { "comment_id": "198408", "author": "grenadier", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T20:01:27", "content": "Damn!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198413", "author": "Sashmo", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T20:08:13", "content": "I was thking of bulding one of these, but I want to use GPS as the source. Any idea on the best way to use it to synchronize it with multiple windows xp and windows 7 machines?? I’ve tried time servers but they all fall off from 1 to 5 minutes ever 24 hours…..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198415", "author": "Paul Potter", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T20:11:07", "content": "Fantastic work. Really impressive.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198422", "author": "Bill", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T20:59:31", "content": "Link is down. Self Hosting? When will people learn…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198438", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T22:21:15", "content": "still vulnerable to EMP?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198439", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T22:22:40", "content": "it would fit nicely in the dash of my delorean, if i had a delorean", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198446", "author": "Paul", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T23:04:57", "content": "Sashmo:Have you used NTP? Because that should be extremely accurate.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198465", "author": "Pogyhauler", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T01:31:23", "content": "It need’s be voiced with trumpet and drum.This is well past craft,And measures only to a precious art.HAD needs a Hall of Fame and Inspiration,And this should occupy the foyer.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198552", "author": "ecloud", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T08:14:19", "content": "I was just thinking about building a master clock an hour or so ago, for some slave clocks I got on ebay 10 years or so ago and still haven’t gotten around to making use of; was thinking of some kind of ethernet-and-atmel contraption (ethernet for syncing to Internet time). Quite a coincidence. This got me thinking though, I have a pair of logic-based LED clocks my dad built back in the 70s (one for local time, one for GMT). Maybe I could put a once-a-minute FET output on one of them somehow. But those never kept very good time… I’ve always wanted to figure out a way to automatically set them periodically, and keep the two in sync as well.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198553", "author": "smoker_dave", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T08:19:41", "content": "Yes it’s kind of a masterpiece and highly impressive but a single microprocessor with a few peripheral ICs would be much more reliable. Fewer components, less wiring / connections, probably a single PCB.I’m not sure but it looks like he sells these clocks (for a lot of money)? I would be concerned about EMC if this is to be sent out to customers. Has it been tested? Not sure how the perf board would hold up…An amazing project for a hobbyist but judging by the quality of his work it looks more commercial.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198656", "author": "Dave McDave", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T12:12:47", "content": "Radio transceiver? For DCF77?… You should know better HAD.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198767", "author": "lwatcdr", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T17:11:23", "content": "@Sashmo Don’t you have NTP setup? Do you have an internet connection for that network?XP has a SNTP clientHere is a list of servershttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/262680", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198889", "author": "George Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T22:11:22", "content": "Pretty impressive project, well documented too.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198903", "author": "Zydeco", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T23:03:34", "content": "I was going to read the PDF, but I saw Comic Sans on the first page and threw it away.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199201", "author": "mbear", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T12:27:10", "content": "@Zydeco: Download the DOC file, open it, hit “Ctrl-A”, go to font menu, select new font of your choice.Problem solved.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199799", "author": "delta", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T09:32:51", "content": "@sashmo:NTP is the way to go, but do not use the daemon that comes with windows, microsoft says it isn’t meant to be used for really precise use. If your internet connection is somewhat predictable there souldn’t be a problem with using the timeservers. If your local clocks run off, maybe sync more often or find a machine that is more stable and sync the others off it (NTP in a local network is more stable than over the internet and you can sync very often, timeserver operators do not like it if you sync with them too often)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "220119", "author": "Brett", "timestamp": "2010-11-28T09:11:02", "content": "Thanks for the comments, here are few notes on the background to my clock. I am a telecommunications engineer and served my apprenticeship on electromechanical exchanges in the late 70s.This clock was inspired by construction methods we used in exchanges in the 70s & 80s i.e. all components hand wired and all wiring laced with waxed twine (no plastic zip ties). To me the wiring of the components with thousands of wires is a dying skill. The clock should look as good open as it does when closed. Yes it could be built with a few PICs ( I have used one in my Calendar clock) but it just would not look the same.It is a 1 off and non commercial and was posted as a collection of ideas. I am sure no one will build the whole clock but may find some of the ideas useful.The clock and slaves are very reliable and keep in sync with the DCF77 signal from Germany perfectly.Long live Comic Sans.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,353.728125
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/17/gesture-controlled-robotic-hand/
Gesture Controlled Robotic Hand
Mike Szczys
[ "Robots Hacks" ]
[ "accellerometer", "hand" ]
Inspired by the control system for the AMP suits in the movie Avatar, [Feelpavan] built this gesture controlled robotic hand . So far there is functionality for the wrists to rotate and bend, as well as for the fingers to flex (but not individually). This is accomplished by three servo motors on the hand assembly. The instructions for the hand are gathered from your own hand, through the use of an accelerometer and an Arduino that he built himself. Check it out after the break. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMBTIPqh6D4]
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[ { "comment_id": "198390", "author": "The ThunderBird", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T18:35:44", "content": "Interesting build, but wouldn’t the fingers be easier to handle via stretch-resistors rather than an accelerometer?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198419", "author": "drew", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T20:44:02", "content": "this is awesome. I’d rig it to a manipulating apparatus inside a clean room under vacuum for work with hazardous materials.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198461", "author": "Volfram", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T00:55:42", "content": "“Interesting build, but wouldn’t the fingers be easier to handle via stretch-resistors rather than an accelerometer?”But then you’d miss the whole “Amp Suit is motion-controlled” thing.I’ve been wanting to do something like this myself, since 2000, when Escaflowne did it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK38WzlNvfk", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198470", "author": "DanielK", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T01:52:41", "content": "I was thinking of Landmates from Appleseed and Ghost in the shell when I saw this.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198778", "author": "japkin", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T17:32:31", "content": "All this made me think about was the robotic clown suit in the movie F/X 2.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh5XW8vIspgYes, I realize it’s fake, but it was cool back then!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200713", "author": "mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T07:08:43", "content": "i would use flex-sensors for the fingers, just likehttp://hackaday.com/2010/10/04/from-sign-language-to-spoken-language/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "203934", "author": "Sasha", "timestamp": "2010-10-28T03:10:07", "content": "I saw this and thought immediately of the “waldoes” from the short story “Waldo” by Robert Heinlein.Been around a lot longer than you think.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,353.820375
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/17/live-action-fighting-games/
Live Action Fighting Games
Mike Szczys
[ "Video Hacks" ]
[ "costume", "fight", "gladiator", "helmet", "nes", "video game" ]
Here’s a strange one. This fighting game uses a video game interface to instruct modern-age gladiators on how to bring the pain. The costumed fighters cannot see anything other than a set of lights in their helmets instructing them to move or punch. A camera films them and overlays the footage on a digital background along with simulated blood and a health bar for each. NES controllers are used to instruct them, and switches inside the costumes register the pummeling they receive and deduct health accordingly. This wouldn’t be any good without a demonstration, which we’ve embedded after the break. [vimeo=http://vimeo.com/15884535]
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[ { "comment_id": "198342", "author": "CutThroughStuffGuy", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T16:20:12", "content": "“This wouldn’t be any good with a demonstration, which we’ve embedded after the break.”with or without?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "198346", "author": "Caleb Kraft", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T16:31:46", "content": "@cutthroughstuffguy,fixed that, thanks.", "parent_id": "198342", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "198347", "author": "Limey", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T16:34:34", "content": "I kinda feel bad for the guy in the red, its almost as if he’s letting the guy in the blue win because if he actually punched the blue guy he would be floored (the blue guys head is at the red guys fist height XD).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198357", "author": "Ben Ryves", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T17:12:21", "content": "This reminds me a little of the TV series Knightmare, albeit applied to a fighting game rather than adventure game:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciIfcYwI6PsGood work! :-)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198360", "author": "dude", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T17:18:18", "content": "what happens if someone punches or ducks and their not supposed to.this sounds like a drinking game.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198377", "author": "caps", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T17:54:00", "content": "Now just get rid of the video game part, allow fighters to see each other, and make the switches pressure sensitive.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198436", "author": "Jay", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T21:58:18", "content": "I wonder what they do if you rattle off…Up Down Up Down Left Right Left Right B A:P", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198442", "author": "joebrodie", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T22:47:31", "content": "↓, ↘, →, punch would be interesting to see.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198499", "author": "Bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T03:54:00", "content": "Fatality!!!!!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198526", "author": "Eirinn", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T06:32:40", "content": "Actually ↓, ↘, →, punch looks like it would release a quite painful and no within the rules uppercut to the groin and not the flying ball of energy many would expect :p", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198816", "author": "Pickles", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T19:22:36", "content": "“I wonder what they do if you rattle off…Up Down Up Down Left Right Left Right B A”They’d probably just do a stupid little dance! Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A is another story…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199050", "author": "walt", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T05:23:34", "content": "why is there no video? WTF!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199051", "author": "walt", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T05:24:25", "content": "nm :p", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "212001", "author": "Jordan", "timestamp": "2010-11-13T18:58:16", "content": "@Pickles:I was gonna say that!But seriously, if they’re seeing commands rather than the actual button presses, then you could have the computer interpret things like the Konami sequence as “spin around” or something ;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "342220", "author": "Whirligig", "timestamp": "2011-02-26T04:23:46", "content": "Next project: a live-action version of QWOP!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "450115", "author": "CLOMIDONLINER", "timestamp": "2011-09-08T00:32:00", "content": "clomid and dischargeclomid after cycle", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,354.015853
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/17/homemade-music-player/
Homemade Music Player
Jakob Griffith
[ "digital audio hacks" ]
[ "mp3", "music", "parallax", "player", "pocket", "portable", "propeller", "shield", "song", "wav" ]
Sadly, this pocket mp3 wav player doesn’t come close to the capabilities of even an iPod generation 1 yet , but you have to give [Owen] props for making it in less than 24 hours. The system consists of a Propeller MCU (cleverly wired to be swappable with “shields” similar to Arduino systems), SD card for song storage, and an LM386 for audio. While the setup is a little dull, and only plays through songs non stop with no controls whatsoever, it certainly is a good start in the right direction for a cheap and simple portable music player . Of course some planned changes are in the works, include an accelerometer (gesture based controls?), etched PCB, docking station, and a case . We’re surprised there is no form of screen planned, considering Owen appears to have a rather good handle on touch interfaces ; perhaps he’s waiting for revision 3.
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[ { "comment_id": "198314", "author": "Hacksaw", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T13:50:11", "content": "While not the most technically advanced it is still very cool.I can imagine a a quick flip of the wrist to skip to the next song…or fast forward hat sounds really cool.Nice job!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198330", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T15:40:31", "content": "I like it for it’s simplicity.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198331", "author": "xorpunk", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T15:44:05", "content": "It actually reflects how lazy and consumer people are that one wasnt made years ago that had modern features(and wasn’t a $80 kit)..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198336", "author": "Dan", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T16:02:54", "content": "This would be a nice inexpensive way to play music 24/7, e.g. hold music in telephone systems or elevator music.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198338", "author": "roboman2444", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T16:14:02", "content": "wow, if he took the small surface mount propeller, surface mount lm368, some small buttons, a microsd card,and a small lipoly battery, he could have a ipod shuffle.i would like to see a small display, maybe one from a cellphone. That would make the thing absolutely awesome.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198341", "author": "Haku", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T16:18:27", "content": "Impressive for making it with parts laying around, sometimes those are the most interesting and fun builds, like the thing I stuck in my fridge that after 5 seconds of closing the door you can hear “*bang *bang* *bang* excuse me, excuse me, excuse me! Can you let me out of here?!”, made from a silly electronic toy + Picaxe + LDR.But if you’re looking for an SD mp3 player that can be fully controlled with a microcontroller through TTL serial, this unit is somewhat amazing, especially considering it’s only $10+postage:http://www.mdfly.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_53&products_id=284It can handle 32mb to 8gb SD/SDHC cards, and cope with almost 3000 mp3 files that can be individually selected through the TTL serial connection.You’ll need to run a freeware program called DriveSort to make the files on the SD card in the correct alphabetical order within the FAT, you don’t need to name them 001.mp3 002.mp3 etc. you can use real names, but adding 001 etc. to the beginning of them helps.Proper, full datasheet for the unit is here:http://www.thaieasyelec.net/archives/Manual/TDB380%20datasheet%20V2%5B1%5D.0%20.pdfI bought 5 of em :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198343", "author": "Jake", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T16:23:33", "content": "There are a great variety of write-ups (and in many cases, complete schematics, parts lists, and code) for sub-$40 MP3 players on the internet. This one might be nice for a music-on-hold system, since you are just looping the same track over and over. I can’t think of anything else it would be useful for, due to the crippling size of .wav files? Maybe you could use it to play sound effects inside a Halloween pumpkin? :D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198352", "author": "egasimus", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T16:43:59", "content": "http://elm-chan.org/he_a_e.htmlcheck this out (:", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198356", "author": "Gonzalo", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T17:07:35", "content": "Would be cooler if it could decode mp3 (I think it’s possible in a Propeller uC, what do you think?)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198358", "author": "sintos", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T17:13:32", "content": "Check this outhttp://syso.name/w/PMB– thesame approach with the DAC, but a live synthesizer", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198381", "author": "Anonymous", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T18:00:33", "content": "Isn’t there an MP3 library for the Propeller?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198405", "author": "Paul Potter", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T19:41:55", "content": "Great work.I’m very interested in them cheap modules now. TTL-USB serial = sorted", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198428", "author": "Tiago", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T21:17:50", "content": "http://www.myplace.nu/mp3/A lot of mp3 based in avr!!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198432", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T21:37:26", "content": "Does anyone remember the silly guy who mortgaged his house to build a pez mp3 player… from scratch?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198527", "author": "Eirinn", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T06:35:15", "content": "Was thinking about building an arduino mp3 player, but the mp3 shield is sooo expensive :S", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198535", "author": "Cindy Auligny", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T07:04:46", "content": "@Tiago: great, thanks for sharing (:", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198557", "author": "Davo1111", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T08:48:52", "content": "great design, thanks for sharing.I bet the battery life is better than the ipod hahaha", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198614", "author": "opcode", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T10:36:07", "content": "Great design and better than buying a ready made one.For my projects I use this one:http://www.4dsystems.com.au/prod.php?id=73", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198890", "author": "Jon Williams", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T22:17:46", "content": "I created a commercial WAV player using the Propeller that has been a huge hit with our customer base. The great thing about using the Propeller is that it’s easy to customize; our product even allows users to upload new firmware from the SD card which makes product improvements a breeze.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "727189", "author": "Roshan Bhoi", "timestamp": "2012-08-08T15:56:04", "content": "its quite hard to made, though the ckt is not so simple.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,354.130209
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/16/shiny-motorcycle-computer/
Shiny Motorcycle Computer
Mike Szczys
[ "Transportation Hacks" ]
[ "atmega644", "computer", "lcd", "motorcycle", "rotary encoder", "rtc", "temperature" ]
We’re rather surprised at how popular it has become to build your own motorcycle computer. [Mario Mauerer] tipped us off about his shiny motorcycle computer ( translated ) for his Yamaha XTZ 750. It uses an ATmega644 microcontroller to pull a variety of data together and display it on this white LED backlit display. He connected a flow meter to the fuel line to monitor gas consumption. Oil temperature is captured by inserting a brass tube (containing the sensor) through a hole in the oil cap and soldering it in place. Water temperature is gathered by measuring the external temperature of one of the cooling lines. [Mario] uses a rotary encode with a click function as the control interface device, and a battery backed real time clock keeps time. A quick look at the PCBs tells the tale of good circuit design. But we do wonder about catching the reflection of the sun in that shiny bezel.
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[ { "comment_id": "198077", "author": "bogdan", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T21:10:05", "content": "Excellent job!All these bike board computers make me want wish I had a motorcycle.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198096", "author": "Mikey", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T22:52:14", "content": "Definitely took some skill, more of a build than a hack, but I’m not complaining, this is awesome!Though it’s interesting that he’s german(?? it looks german), but did the UX in english… most of it’s great cause it’s only one or two words, but he might want to get a proof reader to wean out the things like “Fuel Consumpted:” (unless he did that on purpose.) ;-)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198116", "author": "sneakypoo", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T23:51:29", "content": "@Mikey: Regarding the choice of language on the display. It might’ve simply been out of convenience. I’m Swedish and when I play around with LCDs or other stuff that requires me to output text I usually stick to English. Why? Because it’s often a bit of a pain in the ass to add support for our extended alphabet. In Sweden we have three additional characters after “z”, namely “åäö” or “ÅÄÖ” in caps.These characters appear “out of order” in the ASCII table so you have to add logic to handle them separately. By sticking to English you can get away with being a bit lazy :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198121", "author": "Abbott", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T23:59:51", "content": "Not a bad job. Though, this really isn’t necessarily what I would call a computer. It’s more of a monitoring device. The computer controls the EFI, spark timing, etc.Excellent build, though.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198173", "author": "JimK", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T03:24:16", "content": "The fuel flow sensor looks really interesting. I wonder where get got it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198179", "author": "Duamerthrax", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T03:46:27", "content": "Here’s a thought that I had along similar lines.Ditch the gauge cluster altogether and install a transparent lcd in the helmet.Not sure what a back light would do during night driving.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198249", "author": "Mario", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T09:19:26", "content": "Hi Guys,Thanks for the commendations!I chose english as my menu language because some words were a bit shorter and fitted better.What`s wrong about “Fuel Consumpted”? How should it be written? :-D (As beeing from Switzerland, English isn`t my mother tongue…)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198258", "author": "Eirinn", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T10:07:17", "content": "@Mario“Fuel Comsumption” is correct, my guess is that you’re using “consumpted” because it’s “fuel used”, but the grammar is different :) if you want to keep the form then it would be “fuel consumed”, but it wouldn’t make sense.– Eirinn", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198259", "author": "Eirinn", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T10:10:36", "content": "Just a fix to my previous post.Fuel Consumption if you want to display how much fuel is being consumed at the time.Fuel Consumed if you want to show how much fuel has been used.Blargh :D just trying to help. Awesome build you’ve made!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198312", "author": "Tom Hargrave", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T13:44:35", "content": "I’d say that its a great project. I like the concept and how it was packaged. I would suggest that you paint the aluminum flat black and find a bezel cover that won’t reflect sunlight in your eyes.BTW, I ride a 1976 BMW R75/6.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198329", "author": "Techyguru", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T15:38:29", "content": "I don’t think the reflection will be a big deal. My bike has chrome all around the instrument cluster and I never have had it reflect into my eyes.One thing I would use would be a digital speedometer, then you could make it give you 0 to 60, quarter mile times, ect. But then again I think just the stop watch would get me into enough trouble.Nice build!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198353", "author": "Kiwini", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T16:49:31", "content": "It’s an interesting exercise, but the values generated & displayed aren’t worth much beyond a way to start a conversation…1)The “fuel flow” measurement will be, at best, an educated guesstimate. Consumer-level flow-metering hardware used in this manner will be less accurate than a the tank-level gauge. If the meter-spec is actually good enough for the task, it still needs to have its’ flow-measuring accuracy calibrated and verified after it’s been installed in the system that’s being monitored. No calibration means that you’ve made a somewhat unreliable fuel tank level indicator.PS: Good flow meters measure mass, not volume. :)2)The accepted ways for measuring oil temp require that the probe be immersed in the oil that’s down in the sump. The described method is measuring the temp of the air/oil mist that’s being created by the spinning clutch backet. It’s influenced to some degree by the oil’s heat downstairs, but the biggest influencing factor in the area you’re measuring so-called “oil temp” is the air going past the outside of the engine as it cools the clutch-side of the crankcase. You’ll get a temperature indication, but what it means is dubious.Nice try, but the wrong approach. Fwiw, simply inserting the probe deeper into the engine from the oil-fill hole won’t help either.3)There’s a similar issue with measuring the temp of an external coolant line. A better way to measure the coolant’s REAL temp would be to have the temp sensor/pickup attached to the radiator’s lower reservoir, and insulating it so the only temp seen by it is the coolant temp within, not the atmosphere blasting past it on the other side.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198359", "author": "Mario", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T17:16:01", "content": "Thanks for your points, but:1.) I calibrated the flow meter directly in the bike and achieve a accuracy of 5% at the gas station, which is pretty much enough for the desired task, as the original motorbike hasn`t any fuelgauge at all.A much bigger problem is the fact that the fuel travels back and forth in the fuel lines with every revolution of the engine because the fuelpump works with the vacuum generated by the engine (inlet suction), i guess it will be better if i mount the flowmeter between pump and carb and not before the pump…gotta do that next season.2.) The engine got a dry sump lubrication and guess where the sensor is – right – in the oil tank. So this is the best place to measure the oil temperature, because the engine is ready to do something when all the 4.5 liters of oil are heated up – which is exactly what the sensor tells me. (it takes about 15km/10mi for the oil to get up to ~60°-70° celcius)3.)Yes, the water temp sensor isn`t optimally placed. But when i built it i didn`t have the time to drill a hole into a radiator screw.But the Water temp isnt`t of very much interest; The bike has its own water temperature gauge.Greets from SwitzerlandMario", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198393", "author": "Mr Hacker", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T19:08:18", "content": "i thought it would more be like a carputer in a motorcycle than a status display when i read the title", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198518", "author": "Tyler", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T05:34:25", "content": "Any chance of uploading schematics and layout? I really like your project, top notch! Makes me want to mod my motorcycle! Then again I still have a 1970 Honda CB350 I’m restoring, maybe that will get a computer in it some day :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198547", "author": "Steve", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T07:57:17", "content": "Hello,great project, +1 for the schematics ;)with greets from austria,d2k2", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198793", "author": "Mario", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T18:36:48", "content": "Hi,i`ve published the schematics and the complete source-code at the bottom of my website. (https://sites.google.com/site/mauererm/xtz-bordcomputer?pli=1)Schematic: Eagle (www.cadsoft.de)Source-Code: AVR StudioIf there should be any questions ==> mail", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198985", "author": "Tyler", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T02:18:58", "content": "Much appreciated! Thanks!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "332185", "author": "Al Whorley", "timestamp": "2011-02-13T19:39:47", "content": "How about a pointer to where I can get those flow meters? I am in the beginning stages of a project that needs a couple and that one seems to have the resolution I need.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,354.072959
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/16/computer-aided-cake-decoration/
Computer Aided Cake Decoration
Mike Szczys
[ "Misc Hacks" ]
[ "cake", "candy", "decorate", "frosting", "spirograph" ]
This contraption lets you decorate your cake at the push of a button . It’s a stretch to call it computer aided as this is purely a mechanical monster, but we still enjoy the apparatus and see its CNC potential (we’re still waiting for that pizza printer to hit the market too). An icing syringe has been modified with a flexible hose on the business end. As constant pressure is applied to the plunger, the nozzle oscillates while the cake rotates. What results is a spirograph drawing on the top of your dessert. But the fun doesn’t stop there. Another push of the button and you get shiny silver orb candies joining in the party. What, no video? Aw! If you know where to find a clip, let us know and we’ll update this post. [Thanks Mowcius]
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[ { "comment_id": "198045", "author": "Ib", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T18:59:26", "content": "No Video?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198046", "author": "Pacman", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T19:05:12", "content": "Now wait until the arduino gets a hold of it, hi-def cake printing at its finest =)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198053", "author": "Kenny432", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T19:46:17", "content": "GLaDOS is real", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198058", "author": "st2000", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T20:14:43", "content": "I can’t believe you missed out on using the word Hypotrochoid in your story/post.HypotrochoidHypotrochoidHypotrochoid…there, I’ve made up for it!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypotrochoid", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198068", "author": "zool", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T20:42:44", "content": "it will decorate your cake but then it will lie about it later", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198074", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T21:01:07", "content": "You had me at orb candies…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198103", "author": "blurry", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T23:14:16", "content": "I’m making a note here: HUGE SUCCESS!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198195", "author": "Paul", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T04:37:53", "content": "so it’s cack?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,354.330242
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/16/brightest-day-darkest-night-charge-it-with-arduinos-light/
Brightest Day, Darkest Night, Charge It With Arduino’s Light
Mike Szczys
[ "Toy Hacks" ]
[ "arduino", "green lantern", "Halloween props", "lantern", "power battery", "power ring", "rfid" ]
To userp the Green Lantern oath is a sacrilege. But calm your rage as you take in this Green Lantern battery and ring project . [Jon] built the power battery portion out of LEGO, but inside you’ll find an added bonus. An Arduino uses a set of LEDs and an RFID reader to bring the object alive. A matching ring contains the RFID tag that activates the lights when held up to the lantern’s lens. You can see this used to charge the power ring (and join in by saying the oath) in the video after the break. Want to build something like this but don’t have an RFID reader? This would be easy to pull off by adding a magnet to the ring and a hall effect sensor in the lantern. Maybe this will make you rethink your Halloween costume this year. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw1dTOP2eo4] [Thanks Hugo]
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[ { "comment_id": "198030", "author": "grenadier", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T17:37:19", "content": "Ring needs more tritium glow lamp.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198075", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T21:02:54", "content": "Yeah, until it backs up into the mains…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198078", "author": "Sodor", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T21:14:21", "content": "Cool!, now add a electric door lock and you have a nice method to open your room.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198088", "author": "aztraph", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T21:48:48", "content": "whenever he uses it, somewhere, a geek keeps his virginity", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198143", "author": "Gilliam", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T01:38:22", "content": "i might have used a magnet in the ring and a reed switch in the lamp face attached to a brightening/dimming circuit.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198148", "author": "belsonc", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T02:10:50", "content": "Usurp, not userp. :-)#corrections", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198247", "author": "Itwork4me", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T09:04:25", "content": "Lego and DC and Halloween! Great lil project while heeding the above comments. Beware of geeks who will keep you talking about it and your dormant lego batman utility belt project more than being able to hit on chicks.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198294", "author": "Eirinn", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T11:49:09", "content": "@Gilliam yeah a reed switch would have been a much cheaper way to do this.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198309", "author": "sonny", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T13:33:16", "content": "The RFID is used so that no other ring can be charged at the lantern but that specific ring, true to the form of all the GL Forces in the universe. Each ring is paired to only 1 lantern, and can only be charged at one lantern...at least that’s how it used to be, in the golden age.Fun also serves a useful purpose.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198386", "author": "Jon", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T18:15:41", "content": "Thanks. Glad you guys like it.The hall effect sensor or the reed switch would work, but if I do other lanterns (yellow, blue, etc.) then I don’t want the colors to be able to trigger the other colors. By using RFID, I can program it to only work with the specific rings.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,354.224829
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/16/they-polyplasmic-archophone/
The Polyplasmic Archophone
Caleb Kraft
[ "digital audio hacks" ]
[ "arc", "high voltage", "music", "tesla" ]
The polyplasmic archophone is a fresh approach to high voltage “ arc music “. They are using  an Arduino clone to convert signals for the ignition coils. It is still unfinished, but the effect is decent. In the end it will have 2 tiers of voice coils for a total of 13. They are using different materials for the antenna so they can get different colors of sparks. You can see a video of it after the break and we must say the effect is quite nice. Change the lighting on that video and we could imagine this being the set to a [Joules Verne] movie. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WfszpzNAmw] [via Makezine ]
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[ { "comment_id": "197972", "author": "Jake", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T14:32:22", "content": "This can’t even hold a candle to those tesla coil ‘speakers’. Those things are freaking AWESOME!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197974", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T14:42:27", "content": "Gosh – that’s fresh.This month.Circa 1950’s much hoopla was made over gas flame speakers that were basically plasma modulation using WW2 tube technology. A more modern implementation is shown here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasp88nbsRwAlso, You don’t need multiple coils to get polyphony:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGD64MjRTfAWanna build one? Search for 555 and flyback.Then whip out your arduino and PWM the output of the 555. Two things:1. These suck at BASS. So for a full-on cataclysmic sound machine, buy some earth shakers (big mag coil with audio in designed to rumble theatres) and add some bass.2. Don’t touch the arc. It’s like ghost busters. I have a small custom tattoo courtesy of high frequency modulated HV, and it just reached out 12 inches and “modified me” by what seemed to me to be remote excavation of bare skin. I wasn’t being careful enough.But the biggest problem is that you can touch this stuff and say “hey, it tickles!”… not realizing that the muscles and nerves underneath the skin are being prepped for destruction. It can take a long time to notice the damage.On that note:500KV makes for some serious arc lengths. Check this out – it’s a giant mechanical switch. Notice how long it takes for the switch to open the circuit!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXiOQCRiSp0", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197975", "author": "Jack Sprat", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T14:42:43", "content": "Tocatta und Fugue, but it’s difficult to hear the frequency difference between notes.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197976", "author": "Andrew", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T14:52:40", "content": "“They polyplasmic archophone”” In th end ”Alright gentlemen, it is time to at the very least start using spellcheck, if not hire a copy editor. The rash of bad typos and grammar is getting ridiculous.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197979", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T15:01:34", "content": "i used to do this with 555 driven flybacks … just put music in to pin 5!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197981", "author": "VEC7OR", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T15:16:07", "content": "The face @ 10 sec is pure-mad-scientist.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "197983", "author": "Caleb Kraft", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T15:20:35", "content": "@Vector,mad engineer!", "parent_id": "197981", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "197986", "author": "snowdruid", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T15:37:21", "content": "joules verne REALLY? thats not one but 2 dead guys turning in their graves…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197987", "author": "M4CGYV3R", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T15:39:56", "content": "He should move the notes up an octave or two. This thing is balls at any sort of low-end notes.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197992", "author": "Nathan Zadoks", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T16:07:12", "content": "@snowdruid It’s a (bad) pun..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197993", "author": "svofski", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T16:12:58", "content": "How about putting this in a horn to make it actually produce sound instead of this crickety noise? Come on, even two sheets of plywood can make a difference.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197997", "author": "snowdruid", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T16:20:11", "content": "i got that and believe me im not usualy a troll but this really is a bad pun and althoung the project is kinda nice it’s still very old news. taking something wich has been around for years and “multiplying” it dosnt make it new sorry but i come to expect better things from HaD", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198015", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T17:10:52", "content": "“this isn’t new”“but does it play crysis”“that’s what she said”Guess what else is not new..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198018", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T17:19:05", "content": "the name is cool, but it sounds like a bunch of ignition coils or something. i want to build a full range plasma soundsystem: plasma tweeters, then wider sparkgaps for deeper bass, the largest being comparable to football goals, but not 100 yds apart. but idk how because i can’t even embed a video like billy bob up there: attempt1http://www.youtube.com/v/OdaBE5Ef5f0?fs=1&hl=en_US", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198022", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T17:23:40", "content": "see, can’t even get that right:attempt # final!http://www.youtube.com/v/OdaBE5Ef5f0&rel=1&fs=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198028", "author": "HAROLDKUMARI", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T17:33:14", "content": "Gosh – that’s fresh.This month.Circa 1950′s much hoopla was made over gas flame speakers that were basically plasma modulation using WW2 tube technology. A more modern implementation is shown here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasp88nbsRwAlso, You don’t need multiple coils to get polyphony:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGD64MjRTfAWanna build one? Search for 555 and flyback.Then whip out your arduino and PWM the output of the 555. Two things:1. These suck at BASS. So for a full-on cataclysmic sound machine, buy some earth shakers (big mag coil with audio in designed to rumble theatres) and add some bass.2. Don’t touch the arc. It’s like ghost busters. I have a small custom tattoo courtesy of high frequency modulated HV, and it just reached out 12 inches and “modified me” by what seemed to me to be remote excavation of bare skin. I wasn’t being careful enough.But the biggest problem is that you can touch this stuff and say “hey, it tickles!”… not realizing that the muscles and nerves underneath the skin are being prepped for destruction. It can take a long time to notice the damage.On that note:500KV makes for some serious arc lengths. Check this out – it’s a giant mechanical switch. Notice how long it takes for the switch to open the circuit!http://www.youtube.com/v/PXiOQCRiSp0&rel=1&fs=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1Posted at7:42 amon Oct 16th, 2010 by bilbao bob", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198051", "author": "Andrew", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T19:44:58", "content": "This guy looks like iron man!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198057", "author": "jedialian", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T20:14:04", "content": "i wish you could delete your own comments. anyway, that thing is cool.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198059", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T20:15:07", "content": "and that guy looks like Tony Stark", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198062", "author": "MChammer", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T20:22:08", "content": "He is the spitting image of Nicola Tesla, too…..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198067", "author": "zool", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T20:38:06", "content": "yeah should have played it up an octave or soyou end up hearing this same frequency for the lower notes", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198076", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T21:06:10", "content": "I smell ozone…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198091", "author": "lejupp", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T22:05:00", "content": "@snowdruid: You do realise that HaD does not actually make these projects, right?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198108", "author": "Addidis", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T23:37:30", "content": "Those mechanical switch utube videos are incredible I want to see one in person, from very very far away.This guys organ is wicked cool. I would probably pay him to sit on my porch and play some Transylvania music on Halloween ;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198122", "author": "snowdruid", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T00:02:24", "content": "@lejupp sure i know they dont make the projects but they decide which project to feature on HaD.therefore its there job to sort out all the crap that gets send in. but i really dont see the relevance here.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198171", "author": "Garbz", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T03:14:46", "content": "@bilbao bob that’s not 500kV switching generating the arc. Those switches are designed to quickly open 550kV in normal circumstances and extinguish the arc in less than a second.In this case they were there debugging why they were having such problems with this switch. Turns that changes in the design downstream caused a huge massive inductive load on the switch. Summary, there’s a shitload more than 500kV attempting to sustain that arc.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198187", "author": "Hirudinea", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T04:24:21", "content": "MORE POWER IGOR, I NEED MORE POWER!! Anyway it looks like he’s using a synth as the keyboard so he should just use its output at a low audio level to agument the sound.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198208", "author": "Littleleeroy", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T05:28:14", "content": "GO Western Australia, (and J.S Bach)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198216", "author": "Tachikoma", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T06:42:42", "content": "The dude looks more like Tesla:http://davidszondy.com/future/tesla/tesla%2002.jpg:D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198244", "author": "vonskippy", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T08:27:32", "content": "@strider_mt2kSry, that was me, I had TacoWhammy for lunch and it…well you know.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198256", "author": "tenbohlen", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T09:56:08", "content": "@Garbz, @bilbao:The switch seen in that video is not intended to be opened while under load. The actual switching is done with high voltage circuit breakers. There’s also an arc when the switch is opened, but it’s enclosed and there’s a system in place to actively extinguish the arc.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_breaker#High-voltage_circuit_breakersWhat’s seen in the video is a HV disconnecter, they are normally used to open the circuit after it’s been opened with the circuit breaker to prepare for work on the circuit, because it allows the workers to see that it’s cut (you can’t see the “status” of the circuit breaker).You’re right, though, the testing’s done with a heavy inductive load.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198265", "author": "Andrew Hooper", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T10:36:10", "content": "I would recomend dumping the automotive coils and using motorcycle coils as they have much better audio response due to them being packed much tighter.I built an audio modulated arc come time back with the intention of creating a set of headphones but have not had the time to do any further work on themhttp://evilgenius.net.nz/arc-o-phone/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198295", "author": "svofski", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T11:50:45", "content": "People whining that this is not new must shut the %$* up and go and make something new instead.Here’s what I mean by my previous comment:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HMP2rYugYgThe simple piece of pipe by one side of the emitter makes it sound louder and with a lot more substance. Putting the arc in the focus of a horn (think grammophone) will make it sound great.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198320", "author": "dalton", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T14:14:32", "content": "its like broken piezo just pure fail that ppl make things like this", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198416", "author": "Justin", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T20:11:32", "content": "Looks cool. However, the electrode material doesn’t affect the color of the plasma. That’s determined by the gas that’s being ionized. Unless a bulb is placed around the plasma to contain a gas other than air, you’re stuck with the purplish color of ~70% nitrogen. Plus, the bulb probably wouldn’t do much to improve the sound quality.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198427", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T21:16:04", "content": "@tenbohlenHV disconnecter – switch…Sorry, my terminology is suffering from a combination of ignorance and fundamental tendency to simplify technical terms. HV is not my thing, and apart from various plasma toys and what George Clinton might describe as a funk gun, I just don’t know the lingo. My apologies.@everyone else“a huge massive inductive load on the switch”…anybody else wondered where the numbers go when you dump a big inductor with a megavolt or so?If only we had a flux capacitor… that would probably snub those unruly dv/dt excursions.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198480", "author": "SKoT McDonald", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T02:10:17", "content": "Some responses to various people:* We are definitely seeing different coloured plasma depending on the type of metal and amount of surface oxidation of the antenna. Not a huge change, but it’s there.* Since this video, we’ve increased the duty cycle for higher tones to allow the caps more time to charge.* Bass response – definitely going to be mic’ing it up and running it through harmonic reinforcers, adding layered synths etc. It responds to MIDI, so often we’ll be driving it from sequencing software.* Performance – Although the sound it self is tinny, the visual spectacle is almost more important. We are building a “period” surround + mounting framework for that early 30’s “Arc-Deco” (hoho) crossed with Verne / Captain Nemo look. We will also be adding different voice allocation algorithms that can be changed during a performance to add high voltage Buzzby Berkley (hoho again) arc choreography.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198481", "author": "SKoT McDonald", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T02:11:43", "content": "Sorry, incomplete bullet point:* Since this video, we’ve increased the duty cycle for higher tones to allow the caps more time to charge. This has allowed us to go up another 1.5 octaves, and we get beautiful continuous streams of plasma now.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198726", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T15:52:45", "content": "“Buzzby Berkley (hoho again) arc choreography”Several points for the puns, fifty points for style, but really, without the ability to persuade naive (but manipulative) show girls to come home with you, should you follow this metaphor? I can see the mad scientist of vienna thing you have going, which is great, but you’ll get more chicks with a thumping bass line.Therefore, you need a giant spinning wheel [well, you know, bigger than 12 inches, anyway] or two to provide that beat. And… while I hate to be a safety N…nerd, you may want to consider wearing UV protective glasses if you have a career in performance art ahead.Arc discharge creates a lot of UV, and it’s tough on retinas. You may not care now, but the damage is cumulative. At least find some late 19th century style tinted glasses to wear, or plastic lenses.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199062", "author": "walt", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T05:43:30", "content": "bilbao bob doesn’t know what polyphony means.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199314", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T17:54:43", "content": "@waltPolyphony has nothing to do with # of output channels. Polyphony is only a function of how we hear, and not how many output channels we use to create complex sounds with. Unless you mean the old definition of contrapoint in musical themes.Ever listened to Bach on an old mono radio or TV? That’s still polyphony, by any definition, even if it is projected through a single output channel.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,354.677585
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/15/adafruit-industries-opens-a-job-board/
Adafruit Industries Opens A Job Board
Caleb Kraft
[ "News" ]
[ "contract", "jobs", "work" ]
Adafruit industries is doing their part to help the hacker community with their latest addition, a job board . It just went live today so there aren’t many jobs posted, but we expect that to change in the immediate future. you can also post your services offered there, if you’re looking for work. We really appreciate when companies support the hacker community, so we tip our hats to you Adafruit.
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[ { "comment_id": "197667", "author": "PocketBrain", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T21:08:14", "content": "Oh yeah, bookmarked.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197668", "author": "fluidic", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T21:10:29", "content": "HACKING THE ECONOMY!Oh yeah.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197759", "author": "D_", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T01:11:22", "content": "Respectfully an “E” for effort, the more resources the better. But the challenge is get the knowledge that those resources exist to those who can benefit from them. Adafuit should consider adding an emaul list to inform employers to persons seeking the positions employers need to fill, along with an email list informing those seeking employment of new openings posted.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197798", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T03:23:12", "content": "“I’m looking for a freelancer who’d like to extend the Glasgow Haskell Compiler runtime such that it can execute on the Arduino.”Now THAT’s a meta-troll of the first order. I nearly spit out my sip of earl grey.But just in case the poster reads HAD and is actually serious (please, sir, may I have another) they should try contacting John Meachum or David Terei. There will be much pointing and giggling, but if someone wants to pay for such nonsense, they’d be the guys.But fer pete’s sake, GHC outputs standard C. As in “Hey, it runs on anything with more computing power than a toaster” standard C. I’ve always been against certain people’s inclination to hate on the arduino users, but… this is kinda kinky.I have a sneaking suspicion that the designers of the arduino want to be able to say it runs haskell natively. I’m, uh, well…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198063", "author": "Reaper", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T20:24:19", "content": "Note to self: put multiple A9s in a toaster. Find reason.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198221", "author": "xorpunk", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T06:55:18", "content": "I remember some people said I was what is wrong with this scene because I said this was the reality of it.What is something good to say that sounds less childish than I told you so?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198448", "author": "Raton", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T23:09:54", "content": "I posted an offer for cnc cut parts with the router i just finishedtake a look it might help you for your projects", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198529", "author": "learn how to hack", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T06:39:55", "content": "Computer hacking can also lead to other constructive technological developments, since many of the skills developed from hacking apply to more mainstream pursuits. For example, former hackers Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson went on to create the UNIX operating system in the 1970s. This system had a huge impact on the development of Linux, a free UNIX-like operating system. Shawn Fanning, the creator of Napster, is another hacker well known for his accomplishments outside of computer hacking.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199197", "author": "mbear", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T12:17:22", "content": "@Reaper:“Note to self: put multiple A9s in a toaster. Find reason.”Reason: Dedicate one A9 to control a bank of pinpoint heat sources that allows users to print custom messages on bread. Messages can include weather forecasts, stock information, emergency alerts.Bonus points because toaster will now need internet access to get weather information.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199290", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T17:10:04", "content": "@learn how to hack“former hackers Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson ”Facepalm.Sorry, I didn’t realize this was a consensual product placement for Rafay’s website.My mistake!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199746", "author": "dude", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T06:16:34", "content": "@reaper and mbearreason: pertectly even toast", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,354.479398
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/15/cellphone-crowd-pleasers/
Cellphone Crowd-pleasers
Mike Szczys
[ "Cellphone Hacks" ]
[ "art", "bird", "cellphone", "landfill", "scavenge", "trash" ]
When you start to think about the cellphone waste our society produces it can be quite daunting. How many cell phones have you had in recent years? Now multiply that by five billion cellphone subscribers. [Anthony Goh] and [Neil Mendoza] found something to do with a very minuscule portion of those left-overs; building interactive birds out of the old parts . You’ll have to check out their accomplishments in the video after the break as the image above doesn’t do them justice. Interactivity for the exhibit is provided by an Arduino, which communicates with one working phone via a serial connection. The phone can still make and receive calls, and controls parts from other, less functional cellphones. They can call each other, or receive calls from the audience. Yes, there is art in garbage. But there’s also a lot of hacks waiting to happen. Take a look at the Nokia cellphone LCD feature and then start scavenging. [vimeo=http://vimeo.com/15769292]
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[ { "comment_id": "197634", "author": "fco_bcn", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T20:10:44", "content": "brilliant!there’s literally gold in ewastereminds me ofhttp://hackaday.com/2010/03/31/cnc-plotter-from-old-parts-2/cheers", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197738", "author": "Torque", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T23:32:24", "content": "What about reflashing working ones to custom firm/software or OS. 802.11=wireless speaker / camera / microphone / monitor / controller for X, I/O / USB on-the-go = mobile I/O for X, seems to me the embedded processor and abilities of even older phones should allow for great platforms, and of course parts scavenging.Has anyone done this, or is working on it? My programming skills are limited and obsolete otherwise… (thank you C Sharp 101…)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197741", "author": "3-R4Z0R", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T23:54:59", "content": "Well, I’ve had two used and a newly refurbished device. I’m innocent.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197744", "author": "Urza", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T00:11:42", "content": "I’ve had two cellphones _in my life_. And only got a new one because the screen cracked on my old one (and the ‘new’ one was actually an old one a friend had laying around). Of course, I’ve only had a cell phone at all for about 5 years. My current phone is Verizon’s original ‘The V’, if anyone remembers that. LG VX9800. From around 2005 I think.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197760", "author": "Tech B.", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T01:11:36", "content": "This is pretty cool. I am a big fan of owls. By the way, any one know the song in the video?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197767", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T01:36:56", "content": "i’d say about 10 in 5 years, but its ok because about half of them were stolen lol. my favorite part of an old cellphone is the micro:motor. i wanna buy some of those motors", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197771", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T01:45:24", "content": "i meant stolen from me, not that i stole them and at this price, i want 100 of these:http://gsmserver.com/shop/spares/vibros/motorola/vibro_for_motorola_t191.php", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197887", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T08:23:35", "content": "I have to agree about the motors and such from e-waste.Really something there for everyone.SCROUNGE PEOPLE, SCROUNGE!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198180", "author": "Trollicus", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T03:54:33", "content": "I wonder if it can access twitter?I can’t believe no one has said that already. Or did I miss something?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198705", "author": "asheets", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T15:35:26", "content": "I have had only 1 cell phone in the last 5 years, but only because the employer forced me to carry one.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200020", "author": "ErebusBat", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:07:58", "content": "/there/their/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/15/c-sharp-development-101-part-2-toolbox-controls/
C Sharp Development 101 – Part 2: Toolbox Controls
Greg R. Jacobs
[ "Software Development" ]
[ "application", "c sharp", "c++", "development", "forms", "toolbox", "windows" ]
In this tutorial we are going to start finding out more about the toolbox we utilized in the previous tutorial .  The Controls available in the toolbox are quite extensive and allow users to simplify a variety of everyday tasks such as manually creating and instantiating a textbox on a windows form.  At the end of this tutorial you should be comfortable finding Controls in the Visual Studio Toolbox, alter or produce code to link tools together using event handlers and ultimately get a better sense of Visual Studio, it’s layout and how to easily navigate it. To start we are going to create a new Windows Forms Application project in a new solution that will be called ApplicantRegistration.  After the project is created we need to change the name of the form from Form1 to main and change the name on the top of the form to Applicant Registration under text in the Properties tab.  Then we can start adding in labels and changing Text and Name Properties for: First Name (Text: First Name, Name: lblFirstName) Last Name (Text: Last Name, Name: lblLastName) Address (Text: Address, Name: lblAddress) City (Text: City, Name: lblCity) Zip Code (Text: Zip Code, Name: lblZipCode) Email Address (Text: Email Address, Name: lblEmail) Phone Number (Text: Phone Number, Name: lblPhone) After the labels are completed, we need to add the text-boxes that are going to coincide with the labels. The textboxes are going to have to be altered to make the names of each textbox readable when we do decide to code some guts.  The following are the textboxes that must be added to the form and the changes to the name property as well: First Name (Name: txtFirstName) Last Name (Name: txtLastName) Address (Name: txtAddress) City (Name: txtCity) Zip Code (Name: txtZipCode) Email Address (Name: txtEmail) Phone Number (Name: txtPhone) After this has been done the result should look like this after moving the labels and text boxes around the form: We now want to add the button that we are going to utilize to enter the forms data into a storage container.  We need to drag the button from the toolbox onto the form and change the Text to “Submit” and the name to btnSubmit.  After this is done we can double click on the button which will take us to the code that will be utilized when the user clicks the button.  To do this we are going to start out by clearing all of the form data so when the user presses submit the boxes clear and are ready for another entry.  To do this our code will look like something along the lines of: private void btnSubmit_Click(object sender, EventArgs e) { txtFirstName.Text = ""; txtLastName.Text = ""; txtAddress.Text = ""; txtCity.Text = ""; txtZipCode.Text = ""; txtEmail.Text = ""; txtPhone.Text = ""; } After the code for the button is made we want to extend the  form to the right and add some controls for birth-date and gender.  We will start by making labels for Birthday and Gender respectively.  After we have created the two labels we are going to drag three combo boxes onto the form, one for the day, month and year.  When renaming objects on forms I tend to shorten what the object is into a minimum of two letters and a maximum of four.  The final result would be cbYear, cbMonth and cbDay respectively.  We can now drag two radio buttons onto the form and rename the text of one to Male and the other to Female.  After these have been positioned we can code the methods to populate the dates and tie the two radio buttons together. The first item on the agenda will be the two radio buttons.  We are going to tie them together so that the two cannot be both checked.  To do this we need to check and see if the opposite radio button is checked.  We will do this by utilizing the CheckedChanged event handler for both radio buttons and this code: private void rbMale_CheckedChanged(object sender, EventArgs e) { if (rbMale.Checked == true) rbFemale.Checked = false; else rbFemale.Checked = true; } private void rbFemale_CheckedChanged(object sender, EventArgs e) { if (rbFemale.Checked == true) rbMale.Checked = false; else rbMale.Checked = true; } Next we are going to populate the combo boxes we dragged onto the form earlier.  To do this we are going to have to check which one is picked and populate the days for that particular month.  Leap Years are an advanced function that will be implemented in the next tutorial but will be important to the final build.  We are also going to code a for loop to add the years 1900 to 2010 dynamically on the forms startup.  We can do both of these by utilizing main_Load and the cbMonth_SelectedValueChanged event handlers.  The code will look something like this: private void main_Load(object sender, EventArgs e) { for (int i = 2010; i &gt;= 1900; --i) cbYear.Items.Add(i); } private void cbMonth_SelectedValueChanged(object sender, EventArgs e) { cbDay.Items.Clear(); if (cbMonth.Text == &quot;September&quot; || cbMonth.Text == &quot;April&quot; || cbMonth.Text == &quot;June&quot; || cbMonth.Text == &quot;November&quot;) for (int i = 1; i &lt;= 30; ++i) cbDay.Items.Add(i); else if (cbMonth.Text == &quot;January&quot; || cbMonth.Text == &quot;March&quot; || cbMonth.Text == &quot;May&quot; || cbMonth.Text == &quot;July&quot; || cbMonth.Text == &quot;August&quot; || cbMonth.Text == &quot;October&quot; || cbMonth.Text == &quot;December&quot;) for (int i = 1; i &lt;= 31; ++i) cbDay.Items.Add(i);Day.Items.Add(i); else for (int i = 1; i &lt;= 28; ++i) cbDay.Items.Add(i); } private void rbMale_CheckedChanged(object sender, EventArgs e) { if (rbMale.Checked == true) rbFemale.Checked = false; else rbFemale.Checked = true; } The final form should look something along the lines of this now: The next logical step would be to include code to output this data to a text file or even a database.  We will cover this in the next tutorial using both output methods.  The first will be a text file as mentioned and the database of choice will be a mySQL database which we will go over installing in the next post.  If you are eager you can acquire the program here and install it before the next tutorial.  We could have used Microsoft’s Access database program but it is not free and the main objective of these tutorials is cheap development. After this is done we can run the program by pressing F5 and enter in some test data.  Once all of the data is entered we can press the submit button and the data – if done correctly – should disappear.  If you can’t wait until the next tutorial, here is some reading on connection strings and reading and writing to a text file to get you up to speed.  Until next tutorial, Happy Hacking!
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[ { "comment_id": "197610", "author": "kevin", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T19:19:30", "content": "I’m just taking a human computer interaction course and we are “programming” using c#.We were given copies of visual studio pro 2010, and it does alot of the tedious work for you…I would much rather learn to actually code something like this, as apposed to drag and drop features.hacking in windows? …. phffff", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197618", "author": "Gnu", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T19:38:19", "content": "Nothing stops you from using P/Invoke kevin. I find myself having to hook different api calls and importing unmanaged dlls all the time in compact framework due to its limitations.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197619", "author": "darkore", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T19:39:46", "content": "Nice, but would you please keep the article on the main page shorter and add a “read more” link? It kinda breaks the usual look&feel.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197622", "author": "Timmah", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T19:44:20", "content": "cool, let’s spend all this time learning a M$ language, just so we get to learn it all over again when M$ changes the standard because their VP decides they need to line their pockets again!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197628", "author": "dalton", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T19:56:10", "content": "I’m not expert in c sharp but comparing strings that way you doing it was never recommended in any language (var ==”str”).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197629", "author": "Mindh4nt3r", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T19:57:53", "content": "These tutorials are really great and I love how you explain it so detaild so everyone will be able to follow and use them.As for the database you are going to use, it would be great if you would think about SQL or MySQL expecially since both are use by the mainstream and I’m not feeling like buying something to follow up on your next part.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197630", "author": "Matt", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T20:03:54", "content": "Looks like there is a typo on line 10 of the second code picture. “Apri]” should be “April”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197633", "author": "nnx", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T20:07:35", "content": "@Timmah:Like Sun with Java?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197642", "author": "Brian", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T20:19:18", "content": "@kevin: Doing GUI’s manually generally isn’t worth it. You spend so much time making it look pretty that you don’t give proper care to the back end.@dalton: I believe C# overloads == between two strings.However, it actually can work in the proper context in C. It’s still not the way I would recommend doing it unless you know exactly what you’re doing. If the string in question is a static string AND your “variable” will also be a static string of the same text, the compiler should reference the same location. Therefore, two static strings could be compared using “==” because they would be at the same memory address. Technically you wouldn’t be comparing the data, but the location of the data. Furthermore, this is actually faster than comparing the data itself.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197647", "author": "David", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T20:33:27", "content": "@Brian: The “==” operator on two strings is a default Comparer that does a case-sensitive comparison(a bit more complicated but its enough). If you said (var == (object)”str”) this should cause the actual reference comparison. It would be very very hard to do this with static strings basically because you would have to actually do the char by char comparison to know if they are the same to set to the same static string. You could do this with a drop down box … maybe.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197648", "author": "Timmah", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T20:35:47", "content": "@nnx – Like m$ with J++ ? re: sun w/ java – java’s still around, last I checked.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197652", "author": "Ben Ryves", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T20:43:19", "content": "@dalton: If you’re comparing the contents of strings then == is the way to go in C# (it’s an overloaded operator). If you want to compare references (which is not generally very useful for strings, especially as they are immutable) you can use the ReferenceEquals method.You can also switch on strings in C#.@Timmah: See ECMA-334. Even if Microsoft changed the language then there would still be Mono’s implementation.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197739", "author": "Frank", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T23:38:55", "content": "I think if two radio buttons are in a group (like within one panel or groupbox) then they will automatically become mutually exclusive", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197853", "author": "pRoFlT", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T06:16:57", "content": "I’ve not used C# that much, but is there a reason for the (int i) in every for loop? Can you not just declare it once at the begining of the function?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197856", "author": "pRoFlT", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T06:25:39", "content": "oh and in main_load maybe usingstring year = System.DataTime.Now.Year.ToString();could give you current year. In case it’s not 2010…you know in like 3 months.not sure if .to_int() works in C#?For your code you would need an int not string.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197866", "author": "r_d", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T06:50:05", "content": "Data entry! Fsck yeah!This is totally more awesome than homemade scanning tunneling microscopes, robots, and high-powered lasers. Truely the pinnicle of HaD content.Seriously, though, I’d be impressed if you could top the inanity of this post. People come to Hack a Day to see neat tricks and innovation.You seem intent on turning the site into MSDN.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197880", "author": "Nomad", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T07:52:15", "content": "@pRoFlT: You don’t have to use (int i) in every for-loop, but if you need the variable only inside of the loop, it doesn’t make much sense declaring it at the top. Of course if you want to alter it outside of the loops, in order to make the loop run less or more times, then you should declare the counter variable somewhere else outside of the loop.PS:They see me C#inThey hatinorThey see me C#inThey trollin", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197922", "author": "TJLusco", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T10:37:31", "content": "While there is nothing wrong with the tutorial itself, it is definitely geared towards the wrong audience. I would imagine the majority of us readers would be competent in at least one programing language, or if they had an interest in C# development would know how to google a tutorial, or go to a library where there will be an entire bookcase worth of beginner C# books.On the contrary, I found the Android Development 101 very informative. The style of the articles was brief enough to give a good overview of the subject, and inspired thoughts of developing a project utilizing android. In a way, that’s what it’s all about really, we want content that is going inspire us.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198064", "author": "not msdn", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T20:25:46", "content": "if they were turning it into msdn they wouldn’t have used such strange constructs (how about rb.male = !rb.female guys… i mean if this wasn’t automatically handled for you that is)… not to mention… ah hell i’m just going to send this to thedailywtf.com and be done with it", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198313", "author": "333", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T13:46:27", "content": "can you do one on threads and locks ?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198323", "author": "lexi", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T14:55:01", "content": "Jeez people, stop bitching over BS. If you’re not interested in C#, just ignore this article. No need to piss in your panties over nothing", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198558", "author": "Phil", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T09:00:46", "content": "@lexi:If we don’t voice our concern, perhaps these articles will become more frequent? And to the detriment of articles on actual hacks.C# doesn’t not belong here.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198682", "author": "blueguitar", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T14:27:42", "content": "Isn’t if(rbMale.Checked==true) a bit redundant?if(rbMale.Checked) is sufficient. How long has this author been coding in the real world? The thing I don’t like is someone learns something then decides “hey, I can teach others” and end up teaching others the wrong or long way, and we end up with a pool of screwed up coders. But that’s just an opinion.From a readability standpoint, the line above is fine…but still.But as mentioned above, if you set the Grouping the radio buttons, you don’t need to code the “checked” event/method to switch them off and this whole post is moot.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198775", "author": "vicprogrammer", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T17:29:04", "content": "Here is a little more concise implementation of some your code. Automatically handles leap yearsprivate void Form1_Load(object sender, EventArgs e){int YearOffset = 29;int todayYear = DateTime.Today.Year;for (int i = todayYear; i >= 1900; –i){cbYear.Items.Add(i);}cbYear.SelectedIndex = YearOffset;// any year is fine as we just want the monthsDateTime dtMonths = new DateTime(2000,1,1);for (int i = 0; i < 12; i++){cbMonths.Items.Add(dtMonths.ToString(\"MMMM\"));dtMonths = dtMonths.AddMonths(1);}}private void cbMonths_SelectedIndexChanged(object sender, EventArgs e){cbDays.Items.Clear();int curMonth = cbMonths.SelectedIndex + 1; // zero based indexint curYear = (int)cbYear.SelectedItem;DateTime dtBirthYearMonth = new DateTime(curYear, curMonth, 1);int lastDay = dtBirthYearMonth.AddMonths(1).AddDays(-1).Day;for (int i = 1; i <= lastDay; ++i){cbDays.Items.Add(i);}}", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198869", "author": "Dave", "timestamp": "2010-10-18T21:45:12", "content": "Hey, since you’re going through the trouble of posting a tutorial – why not do it with a bit of a patterns centric twist? i.e. instead of just teaching winforms, teach it in the context of MVP or MVVM?Just a suggestion.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "208937", "author": "jo", "timestamp": "2010-11-07T13:07:39", "content": "if (rbMale.Checked == true)rbFemale.Checked = false;elserbFemale.Checked = true;This should be replaced by one single line:rbFemale.Checked := not rbMale.Checked;", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "227377", "author": "HackerTek", "timestamp": "2010-12-01T16:28:55", "content": "For the radio button click events, assign them to the same event and set the ‘if..else’ logic like so. If you have more that 2 rdos, then using ‘switch’ block will work.private void RadioButtons_CheckedChanged(object sender, EventArgs e){if (((RadioButton)sender).Name == “radioButton1”)radioButton2.Checked = !radioButton1.Checked;elseradioButton1.Checked = !radioButton2.Checked;}", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "385715", "author": "Nicci", "timestamp": "2011-04-25T09:20:23", "content": "When do these tutorials continue?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "438466", "author": "KAWANZI ANDREW", "timestamp": "2011-08-20T14:08:58", "content": "thanks alot", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/15/vapor-phase-reflow-soldering/
Vapor Phase Reflow Soldering
Mike Szczys
[ "chemistry hacks" ]
[ "circuit board", "galden", "paste", "pcb", "solder", "vapor phase reflow" ]
Ditch that old toaster oven and move to the next level of surface mount soldering with this vapor phase reflow method . [Ing.Büro R.Tschaggelar] put together this apparatus to use vapor phase reflow at his bench instead of sending out his smaller projects for assembly. It uses the heating element from an electric tea kettle to boil Galden HT 230 inside of a Pyrex beaker. There’s a copper heat break part way up the beaker to condense the chemical and keep it from escaping. When a populated board is lowered into the heated chamber, the solder paste reflows without the need to stress the components with unnecessary heat. Better than traditional reflow? At this level it’s hard to say, but we do find his method quite interesting. [Thanks Chris]
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[ { "comment_id": "197389", "author": "cotton509", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T17:24:50", "content": "The website is geting Hackadayed…. aka ADDOS D:", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197432", "author": "BusError", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T17:55:17", "content": "(site is still down, as mentioned)There is ‘unnecessary heat” and the is “necessary heat” – ie following the soldering paste heat profile is pretty essential to prevent bad joints, tombstoning etc… His method seems to be more of a “quick and dirty” approach…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197663", "author": "P", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T21:03:29", "content": "http://www.ibrtses.com.nyud.net/projects/vapourphasesoldering.html", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197681", "author": "Tom", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T21:37:47", "content": "With the Vapour Phase method, there is no chance of overheating since the components can’t get hotter than the boiling point of the liquid.The worst issue with it may be the cost and environmental impact of the fourocarbon-liquids.Some dioles might be a substitute, likehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,4-ButanediolHas anyone a better idea for a substitute, considering that you likely fall prey to agencies like the DEA or similar if you purchase Butanediol?Still, you might have to consider the solvent properties or reactivity of the liquid. Might not be an issue if the PCB is immediately cleaned with isopropanol after pulling it out of the gas bath.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197749", "author": "George Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T00:40:56", "content": "Pretty interesting project from a theory standpoint. I don’t know why so many people seem to have an issue with soldering SMD. At least not at the hobby level.I did a LOT of SMD soldering in an R&D lab, and almost all of it was by hand. I used a butane torch once in a while. A regular Weller iron, fine solder (sometimes) and that was it. (And a magnifier!)But this is cool for learning about a process, and maybe it can lead to something a lot of people that DO have issues with SMD can use.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197758", "author": "Rachel", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T01:00:08", "content": "You can use plain old water as the fluid, provided the system has enough pressure to raise the boiling point to 230 degrees C. Dissolved salts will raise the boiling point too. I’m not sure if steam causes any corrosion problems though.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197795", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T02:59:33", "content": "@Rachel,You’re a girl after my own heart, even though you’re not a girl and simply play one on TV.Feet of clay, as it were. Or phosphorous.Something like that.Soldering with water as the fluid isn’t that great of an idea – 280F occurs around 4 atmospheres, and I think 270F is reachable in a standard pressure cooker at 2 atmospheres. To reach the temps you’re talking about would be pushing 830 inches of mercury, roughly 440 psi.It’s doable, but why? :)Soldering with steam isn’t practical because of the ease with which moisture will penetrate standard expoxy packages. I suppose you could do this and then bake it out again, but gosh, who has that kind of time.Well, maybe you do…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyQUvMT7tAw", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197809", "author": "Nate", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T03:49:46", "content": "there has to be a way to make this bigger, us 360 and ps3 owners would be able to do much easier reflows :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197924", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T10:53:11", "content": "This reminds me of something I was thinking the other day, how come that to make a PCB we still need to either use a service or if we do it at home we need all those awful chemicals that are also hard to get rid off, why is there no development in that area, we use processes that have not changed since the invention of circuitboards, can’t they make some sort of polaroid-like system at least?Or rethink the whole thing from the ground up, release a printer that has copper ink or something? Or a laserprinter that uses some copper (or more modern conductive compounds?) ink system.Technology has developed in every other area, and material science has come a long way, there must be a way to make the whole thing convenient, one that actually is not just working in a limited way in some rendered picture on some corporate site under the header ‘one day – maybe’But I guess there too some amateur has to design something and hoping for the techsector to wake up is a hopeless endeavor./semi-rant", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197937", "author": "Guillaume", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T11:39:37", "content": "My father created and sold this kind of things 20 years ago with his company which was called “fluochimie”.It is sure the best way to solder things without stressing components:3 advantages:The heating is very quick.You cannot get higher in temperature(for the components) than the liquid boiling temperature.The quality of brazing is a lot higher than with traditional reflowing since heat is homogenous inside the vapor.The liquid he used back then was GALDEN(if I remember well) which is an inert liquid (fluor inside).Since vapor is heavier than air,the vapor stay at the bottom of the recipient (i’m french so sorry for my bad english)There’s one problem though:You have to keep the heating resistors with a temperature under the liquid degradation temperature.If the liquid get higher temperature it will become highly toxic,and you sure do not want to die.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197977", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T14:54:11", "content": "@GuillaumeDo you happen to live in or near 92?@whatnotactually, plotted conductive ink pcbs have been done but the applications aren’t usually worth the effort except for one off prototypes. flexible and paper pcbs introduce other problems, and plotting to fiberglass isn’t useful. Same for teflon, any good pcb material requires chemical prep to be durable.Most of the conductive inks are silver based. It’s great if you need a flexible thin pcb made of mylar/paper, but it’s limited to things that need antennas or wacky geometry.Conductive toners pose a different problem. Since laser printers use electrostatic charges to distribute the toner to the paper, conduction makes that job a lot harder. Basically, for this to work in conventional process laser printers, the toner would need to be activated during or after the heat step.It’s possible to find conductive fluids that bind to toner after the transfer, but the extra steps make this method more painful than the usual method of printing the conductive part of the PCB onto an intermediate film and then heat transferring it to the pcb material.You still have to etch, but etching is easier than making the toner conductive and then dealing with the fragility of carbon based materials. Finally, none of these processes help if you need holes or cutouts.Even the laser based PCB making processes suck because of alignment and penetration issues – you can do it, but the cost is higher.The next big development will be faux biological creation of pcbs and assembliesd, but you won’t be building radio transmitters or high-speed number crunchers. Well, not very good ones, if the sodium ion transmission techniques can’t be improved upon. And if God hasn’t pulled that trick off in the last 5,000 years, who can?;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197980", "author": "Noah", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T15:14:34", "content": "Whatnot, you can always mill PCBs on a mini-mill at that scale…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198017", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T17:18:24", "content": "@bilbao bobSo bind the conductive stuff to a meltable catalyst of some sort and make it so you can heat it in your oven or dip it in vinegar or something and have it bond strongly to substrate.I didn’t say i knew the fix but more that with all we know by now there should be a more modern way.Incidentally bilbao bob, slightly off-topic but since you are know to be concerned, did you see this?http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/10/13/government-spying-social-networks/Even wikipedia? Geez", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198029", "author": "noonevac", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T17:36:23", "content": "how do i get my 360 in that little container :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198038", "author": "Mr Hacker", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T18:21:22", "content": "that project was last updated in 2006??", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198041", "author": "dude", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T18:45:32", "content": "has anybody tried to use a laser for a heat source?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198421", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T20:56:55", "content": "@whatnotNothing about government has changed in at least three millenia, so I think we can pretty much assume surveillance will always be permissable and actively used to the utmost extent allowed by available technology.I mean, we’re all gonna get chipped whether we like it or not, within one generation, barring “unforseen events”. It doesn’t even bother me.Decorative fictions like the constitution and the “universal declaration of human rights” have pretty much been advertising and fairy tales for the rubes from the beginning. We’re taught that just because a bunch of wealthy aristocrats managed to leverage “higher taxes, unpopular wars and internal conflict” into briefly getting control of the government in 1215, we’re all free.But it’s simply not true. The Magna Carta was about as significant to humanity’s future as was the bible – believers believed, haters hated and everyone else went on about their business.But the magna carta became little more than an inspirational historical fairy tale, just as we see with the constitution, the declaration of independence (damnable british kept getting in the way of George W’s ability to sell whiskey!) and the ten commandments. I figure it’ll take the true believers of the desert religion a little longer to forget what the fuss was all about, but it’ll happen. You see, they believe in something, and that always makes for a bit of a mess for those of us who are part of the established order of things. Give it time. It’ll pass.Anyway, they can surveil away! All I care about is that I can’t get my own details delivered by email every day in summary form so that I can account for my own whereabouts.It’ll get here, but not soon enough for me.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "997598", "author": "Vapor Phase Reflow", "timestamp": "2013-04-25T12:40:29", "content": "Yeah even I think Vapor Phase Reflow soldering is the best method for heating because with this method there is a low chance of overheating.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "2682162", "author": "guess", "timestamp": "2015-08-18T09:21:17", "content": "HI ! my name is guessi had play vapor soldering one year . But i don’t know what the pressure and the temp is really difficult to balance .How to calculate the volume about the galden after been heat !", "parent_id": "997598", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] } ]
1,760,377,354.843188
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/15/3d-printing-with-visible-light/
3D Printing With Visible Light
Mike Szczys
[ "Tool Hacks" ]
[ "3d", "dlp", "printer", "projector", "resin", "visible light" ]
This 3D printer manages some pretty fantastic resolution, and these are just the early results of [Junior Veloso’s] build. He put together a machine that prints objects in resin that cures in visible light. To print, a thin layer of raw liquid resin self-levels across a printing surface and a DLP-based projector shines light from below, onto the portion to be hardened. The z-axis then pulls that layer up and the next to be printed will become the newest bottom layer. Horizontally the printer yields 1024×768 resolution with a layer thickness as small as 0.01 mm. No wonder he’s turning out this kind of quality. The model above took 5 hours to print, with eight-second exposure for each layer, and 0.1mm layer thickness. There is lots of good information on his blog, from the early planning , to the finished hardware so take some time to learn about this fascinating project. Update: Thanks to reader [Nave.notnilc] for pointing out that we’ve seen a chemical 3D printing technique before.
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[ { "comment_id": "197339", "author": "nave.notnilc", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T16:17:09", "content": "apparently the resin is “around 200 USD per kg”. looks similar to the stuff used in that projector 3d printing thing posted on HAD a while ago.see:http://3dhomemade.blogspot.com/2010/07/last-post-for-today-initial-plans-and.html", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197360", "author": "dude", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T16:48:31", "content": "someone should do a post on the different types of resin available. show cost and usefulness. maybe make some diy equivalent stuff.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197677", "author": "Cynar", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T21:28:19", "content": "The resin is always the killer with this sort of project. There would be a huge market for it if a company could mass produce a low cost version.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197783", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T02:27:01", "content": "This is excellent.My chemistry is weak, but I agree with dude. We need to reverse engineer some of these materials so that we can get the prices down. Those of you who want to research this should examine any of the epoxies, coatings and inks which are advertised as being cationic. You know, as in the majority of modern special adhesives. Look for “Cationic polymerization”.You can buy specific UV cure stuff from everyone, ie LOCTITE 3335/3340 at $300+ for 250 ml or it’s cheaper chinese (causes cancer in bystanders within a 5 mile radius) equivalents. Look into the inks used by large format printers used for outdoor advertising. I think Gerber makes these, but any UV cure ink is a start. Same for UV cure varnishes in the printing industry.Although UV cure reactions are pretty well documented (it’s like 50 years old), hardening by using visible light is a little more difficult.If you can hit a DLP projector with UV, you can use almost anything you can get your hands on.I would predict that the DLP portion should be considered a consumable, the same way we would consider an inkjet printer cartridge.Basically, anything which hardens or undergoes a stable polymer reaction can be used. If you can handle the fumes (nasty, nasty fumes) you can use various super glues. If you can provide vacuum and temperature control, you can use almost any ink.Also, I wouldn’t get hung up on positive processes – at larger sizes and lower resolutions, negative reactions should be possible. In addition, you should carefully look at old school PCB manufacturing processes – remember chemical application of photo-resists? It’s the same process. In practice, it would be fairly slow.If you want to formulate something, a co-initiator might be helpful – you start with something which is light activated, then dope it with other chemicals to alter the reaction to meet your needs. I am not a chemist, but again look for “UV sensitizer” and photo-sensitizers for help.I suspect that bulk 3D printing fluid is already available at any hardware store in the form of some transparent epoxy based paint or varnish…. if you can find something which is not a fast acting self-solvent and can be thinned while retaining these properties.One way around the self-solvent issue is to use a film of material on top of a neutral-transport with higher specific gravity/weight/density than the uncured material. Maybe that’s too much physics, but you can use liquid carriers in certain instances rather than building extensive support structure. YMMV.This calls for rather old-fashioned science of the “I got 99 coatings but pitch ain’t one” type pioneered by the lost souls who worked for old T.A.Edison. Good luck!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197784", "author": "anon", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T02:28:36", "content": "http://builders.reprap.org/2008/02/cheap-reliable-uv-resins-confirmed.htmlnot sure how these would work but it looks like some people are trying to find a cheaper uv cured resin.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197913", "author": "psuedonymous", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T10:00:25", "content": "Aren’t many dental resins UV-activated? I’m not sure of any transparent ones, though, and they’re usually pretty viscous, but it would be a good starting point for experiments with dilution (or a spreader bar).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197946", "author": "Mr Hacker", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T12:41:36", "content": "haha, cheaper than printer ink for 2d inkjet printers", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197969", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T14:20:55", "content": "The catch is that most of the suitable compounds are already marked up at high margins. For people who want to see the process explained:http://www.lintec-usa.com/Contents/Products/Tape/UVad.htm@Mr. HackerVery true. BTW, HP toner on their newer printers is slowly approaching the cost effectiveness of ink. Just read a report where actual printer cartridge life for newer HP printers is ~60% or less of the stated number of pages.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198083", "author": "techartisan", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T21:33:50", "content": "Im going to skip most of my comments and just reference the comments of another HAD:http://hackaday.com/2010/05/09/multiple-material-3d-printing/#commentsbut to add something new to this discussion….anyone interested in this DLPrinter Project, might want to check out the Optoma hd20 with native 1920 x 1080 resolution for just under $1k….not a bad upgrade for a few hundred dollars more.In consideration of light intensity…1700 lumen @ 1920X1080 of the hd20 vs 2700 lumen @ 1024X768 his ep728 puts out…given the same field of operational focus…you get 2.63671875X increase of pixel density…which should roughly correspond to the HD20 delivering 66% higher intensity to work-field then the ep728 despite the lower lumen rating of its bulb. So it should not only increase resolution but also decrease layer exposure time.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198257", "author": "zeropointmodule", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T10:02:25", "content": "heh.i have a couple of broken DLP projectors here which have power supply problems.i think one is a toshiba, and the input circuitry isnt that complicated on the PSU side so if i can locate a schematic or pinout it shouldn’t be too difficult to kludge something.(did this once with a 28″ LCD panel, 9 different SMPSs later and I got a picture!)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198430", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T21:30:18", "content": "Hey, Don’t low-tech TEA lasers generate UV? I can’t remember the focus/aiming tricks, but I remember wearing UV protection around these. I believe that more modern versions of these are used for non-contact labeling of stuff at crappy resolutions.However, it should be possible to use a TEA or excimer laser in combination with a DLP array and an x/y stage to greatly increase resolution. Maybe this doesn’t offer a lot of advantage over bulb UV sources, but with the right polar coordinate setup, you should be able to quickly calibrate the setup and then get large area + decent resolution at higher speeds.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198433", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T21:40:04", "content": "Promising!http://www.solarez.com/index.htmlhttp://www.solarez.com/productsnew/photo_i.htmlPretty cheap in comparison.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "399876", "author": "bothersaidpooh", "timestamp": "2011-05-30T20:22:13", "content": "Nice links guys.Looks like DLP+UV is the way to go, although with 405nm lasers getting cheaper with a 600mW unit for less than £45 this might also be doable.I am making progress with my PCB etcher which uses many of the same optics as a 3-D printer.Please note, UV lasers are extremely eye unsafe, use approved expensive goggles NOT £10 imported rubbish, your eyes will thank you.OD6 at least please, we don’t want any HaD members to get eye damage.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "604117", "author": "Will", "timestamp": "2012-03-15T19:26:36", "content": "Just so you all know, I got a quote a couple years ago on UV-DLP and it was around $20,000 USD.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,354.731926
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/15/self-balancing-unicycle-2-0/
Self-balancing Unicycle 2.0
Mike Szczys
[ "Transportation Hacks" ]
[ "balancing", "electric", "LiFePO4", "sbu", "unicycle" ]
Focus Designs has a new version of their self-balancing unicycle for sale. This improves upon their original design in several ways. The battery pack has moved to LiFePO4, which is becoming more common in electric transportation . There’s also regenerative braking and fall protection which kills the motor when you fall off. We’ve embedded their marketing video after the break. Our favorite part is the shot seen above: a guy on the unicycle cruising along next to a woman who is running. There’s nothing like sitting on your bum while some else exercises. At any rate, from what we see in the video they’ve turned out a solid product. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JOgTKigxGs]
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[ { "comment_id": "197312", "author": "ben", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T15:12:39", "content": "You could use it as a bar stool that takes you home!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197320", "author": "JB", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T15:23:12", "content": "Don’t drink and drive! :P", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197324", "author": "Michael Bradley", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T15:28:07", "content": "@ben: just needs autonomous gps, and I am sold. its like the old car drive up soda shops, now its the pull up bars", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197335", "author": "Zen", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T15:56:33", "content": "needs gizmoduck costume.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197336", "author": "Squirrel", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T16:01:25", "content": "While having a unicycle that fixes itself after breaking would be cool, I think that the word you meant to use would be braking.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197346", "author": "Addidis", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T16:35:28", "content": "Ok if you havent googled segway wipeouts , do so now.I think this thing will create much much more entertaining wipeouts.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197385", "author": "cholercyst", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T17:20:34", "content": "“While having a unicycle that fixes itself after breaking would be cool, I think that the word you meant to use would be braking.Posted at 9:01 am on Oct 15th, 2010 by Squirrel”Are you surprised? Hackaday may have spellcheck, but it is up to Hackaday Staff to, you know, proofread.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterography_and_homography", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197467", "author": "JB", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T18:34:15", "content": "@ZenROTFLMAO!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197542", "author": "Peter", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T18:51:02", "content": "The picture unintentionally shows, quite well, the different body types which result for the two activities.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197550", "author": "tim", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T18:54:08", "content": "be carefull with that axe Eugene !look what hapened to Jimi Heselden", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197587", "author": "will", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T19:10:36", "content": "lucky…i wish i had the time/parts to do this…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197623", "author": "Jack Sprat", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T19:47:09", "content": "Bam! One less wheel, in your face Segway!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197728", "author": "HackJack", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T22:22:32", "content": "I wonder how the unicycle comes to a stop? At the speed shown in the video, I suppose it needs a stopping distance of several feet? Especially since there is nothing to hold on to?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197753", "author": "Overdroid", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T00:51:43", "content": "Its like an “IT” but not such a pain in the butt.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197757", "author": "Overdroid", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T00:58:36", "content": "After seeing the vid, I gotta say its pretty neat, kinda want to ride up next to some of the unicycle nerds we have on campus. Definitely get more ladies sitting looking calm cool and collected than that awkward pelvic gyrating that unicyclists have to do in order to peddle, make it a uni-barstool and I would consider buying one! =)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197761", "author": "civilprotection", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T01:16:37", "content": "woot! go Washington!! :DI can actually picture everyone using one of these in the next seven years, especially if it could be solar-powered.Also, “You could use it as a bar stool that takes you home! -ben” HAHAHAHAHAHAHA", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197805", "author": "Ken", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T03:41:40", "content": "Unicyclists don’t “wipeout” – they have unplanned dismounts!Also, I wouldn’t sell this as an piece of exercise equipment but unicycling, powered or not, will is a good core workout for a couch potato.Last, to stop a unicycle, you push the wheel in front of the center of gravity and balance. When you try to stop one like a bicyclem the rider simply continues forward!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198105", "author": "pat_loonytoon", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T23:26:49", "content": "Hmm that’s right across the river from me, I’ll have to see if they allow free testing. If I get the chance to test it out I will report back here.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198139", "author": "stib", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T00:54:12", "content": "Still haven’t fixed the greatest technical diffuculty with these self – balancing transport doohickeys: the fact that the user always looks like a total dweeb.They need to give the rider something to do with their hands.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200028", "author": "MikeTV", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:19:15", "content": "“They need to give the rider something to do with their hands.”Juggle?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "587843", "author": "Thiago", "timestamp": "2012-02-23T21:09:25", "content": "Too expensive: U$1499", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,354.789172
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/15/spherical-multitouch-rig/
Spherical Multitouch Rig
Caleb Kraft
[ "Multitouch Hacks" ]
[ "multitouch", "nui group", "sphere" ]
We all love a little bit of multitouch, but we’ve seen so many setups that it is getting a bit less exciting. This one will get your attention with its unique shape. It is a spherical multitouch using all open source software. Well, since the poles are unusable, it might just be toroidal, or cylindrical, but it is still impressive. They are using a convex mirror mounted to the upper most point of the frosted sphere to reflect a projector mounted at the bottom of the base. A web cam pointed at that same mirror picks up reflected IR light from a few emitters. You can catch a video of it after the break. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf7g9tnhOFc] [via boingboing ]
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[ { "comment_id": "197316", "author": "stubaw", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T15:18:32", "content": "Now all they need to do is find a way of getting rid of the lag. Can’t imagine that it’ll be easy seeing as the technique they’re using must involve some crazy image processing…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197322", "author": "M", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T15:24:51", "content": "I would love this so much more if the sphere actually rotated freely. They could read hand position from the camera for click, vertical pan, and zoom behavoir, but use a rotary encoder for horizontal pan. It might look smoother by taking the image processing out of that one interaction. It’s still extremely cool as is though. I can’t wait to see this in a museum.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197405", "author": "Alfred", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T17:38:01", "content": "I have yet to see anyone use multitouch for anything other than demos of people moving images around while zooming and shrinking them. In all the years I have used computers and image processing programs, I have never once had a need to move pictures around on a screen while shrinking and zooming. I have used Photoshop and other programs for image manipulation, but it never involved pretending I was in Minority Report. How about we all just agree that multitouch, while great for demos, is pretty much useless.Remember when “virtual reality” was the hot thing? Everyone ran around wearing head mounted displays and wired gloves while looking like Ray Charles trying to find the toilet in a new hotel room. Yeah, that really took off.Multitouch is VR 2.0 – Nifty to look at but pointless.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197408", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T17:39:17", "content": "Hack factor: ExcellentUsability: Not as much as you might think.Buckminster Fuller had some ideas for the proper use of such a globe.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197431", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T17:52:46", "content": "@AlfredActually, when used on large high res touch screens, multitouch imaging interfaces are VERY useful for picking targets and applications where humans need to snoop on static imagery.You know, unless you have an operator console with a joystick and a space mouse. :)Just fyi, VR is just in a dormant phase. I have a client using it for a training application, and I’m pretty certain that what they’re doing will eventually become mainstream. I thought it was pretty stupid until I tried it.Think of the “Hey, I know kung fu!” scene in the matrix, and replace the hero with an office worker doing something far less glamourous. They think it substantially cuts training time, but knowing if that’s true or not is basically outside my realm. But VR isn’t dead yet.Other than that, I agree. The entire UI for the ipad could be replaced with… well, there’s always more than one way to skin a cat, as they say.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197615", "author": "youjelly", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T19:26:37", "content": "Why is there so much hatred for non-arduino projects on Hack-A-Day?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197653", "author": "zool", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T20:44:29", "content": "cool but there are a few things already like thisand without lagthis is more of a home-made version i guessbut still kind of expensive for what it is", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197654", "author": "zool", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T20:45:16", "content": "@youjellylol nice name bro", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197742", "author": "Hirudinea", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T00:02:51", "content": "This is just what I need for my Supervillan’s lair!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,354.951203
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/15/window-curtain-moves-to-screen-pedestrians/
Window Curtain Moves To Screen Pedestrians
Mike Szczys
[ "home hacks" ]
[ "AVR", "camera", "curtain", "motion", "niklas roy", "processing", "window" ]
[Niklas Roy] built a motorized window curtain to screen out foot traffic in front of his window. When you hear “motorized curtain” you may think that this will move up and down but it doesn’t. Instead, the small curtain move horizontally to cover passersby as they travel down the sidewalk. This is accomplished using a camera in conjunction with some motion sensing software. In the video after the break you can see that the software also anticipates the movement, and ends up doing a good job of keeping the target covered. That’s thanks to the Processing sketch working in conjunction with a rotary encoder on the hardware setup. Details for both are available on the page linked above. This harkens to other community involvement hacks we’ve seen like the subway stair piano , or the bottle recycling video game . It’s fun and quirky, which is not too much of a surprise as we saw a glimpse of that when we looked at [Niklas’] public fountain hydropower generator . [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKhbUjVyKIc&w=470] [Thanks Lejupp and others via Engadget ]
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[ { "comment_id": "197280", "author": "Chris", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T13:48:37", "content": "If the curtain doesn’t suffice, I’m sure this can be mounted on the outside with a paintball gun attached to it. ;-D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197284", "author": "ColinB", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T14:01:48", "content": "ROFLMAO! I can’t stop laughing watching the pedestrians as they try to figure out what’s going on. Unbelievable!Moby hack!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197285", "author": "elektrophreak", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T14:05:24", "content": "haha look at that guy dancing at 1:08 :)great idea and great implementation!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197287", "author": "The DON", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T14:13:30", "content": "Just like a Rube Goldberg machine. Solves through complexity a simple problem.Next step, either:1) have a 2nd (maybe even a 3rd) curtain for dealing with multiple ‘targets’.2) utilise a smaller curtain and move it in 2 dimensions (up/down as well as left/right).I look forward to seeing more of this guys stuff. Well, maybe not more water fountain stuff.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197288", "author": "j", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T14:15:12", "content": "I think I would prefer it to follow me instead so I can walk naked around my house", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197297", "author": "dwqas", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T14:18:32", "content": "Haha. Privacy yeah ;-)Notice how every single pedestrian only looks at the window when they see the thing moving in their peripheral vision ;-)Funny project though.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197299", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T14:24:20", "content": "cant say its cheaper than a full curtain but it draws eyes X3 … i think a smiley face would be funnier tho X3", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197300", "author": "brad", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T14:28:33", "content": "@biozzsomething like a video projection of a smiley face that has eyes that follow you, then frowns if you stop to look at it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197307", "author": "goldscott", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T14:55:15", "content": "Too bad the control algorithm is really poor. Lots of overshoot and bad estimation. I bet PID control, or even just a PD/PI would work better.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197313", "author": "01001011", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T15:14:17", "content": "@goldscottDon’t blame the curtain man and rtf source code, he’s published on his website! That thing is PID controlled. I guess it is more a problem of adjusting the parameters. But in my opinion, the overshoots also add some funny hectical behaviour to the curtain.Great project!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197344", "author": "sd", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T16:30:11", "content": "I lol’d all the way through that video; brilliant idea! :o)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197348", "author": "Doug", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T16:37:39", "content": "Outstanding!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197357", "author": "davo1111", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T16:42:45", "content": "i love it. I think it would be slightly better if the curtain was a little heavier", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197359", "author": "Sepherro", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T16:48:03", "content": "I think that the pedestrian detection is based on sole frame differencing, a bit more complicated – a really simple background subtraction algorithm (e.g. approximate median) with some postprocessing would give better results. Nice project though :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197386", "author": "bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T17:21:10", "content": "The reverse of stated desired effect is happening can could be used as “you wanna know what’s in my shop but you’ll have to come in to see”.Sell it :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197437", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T18:05:15", "content": "lol maybe not so good for privacy but good for Halloween", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197491", "author": "mowcius", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T18:40:06", "content": "I love the idea. Looks like a great bit of fun!Not sure I’d be using a curtain but tracking people and moving stuff is always cool.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197508", "author": "Addidis", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T18:44:54", "content": "hehehehehehehehehehe.People didnt realize they were on camera as they danced infront of the window hehehehe.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197666", "author": "Paul", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T21:06:13", "content": "very, very coolhe should add some code which says that if someone stops to look, it’ll be more likely to anticipate them to move back and forth", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197857", "author": "Greycode", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T06:34:59", "content": "The reactions were funny, but all the curtain thing did was attract attention. People were playing with it. Should have been called “My Little Source of Amusement.” Great project though, I was amused at it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197912", "author": "TFk", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T09:59:17", "content": "Does anyone know what the music on the video was?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198054", "author": "Mr. Sandman", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T19:49:30", "content": "@TFk: watch the whole video…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "208046", "author": "roy", "timestamp": "2010-11-05T10:56:53", "content": "What heppens when there are 2 persons walking on the side walk at the same time, crash blieb blieb?????", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "6356957", "author": "marlyn bradley", "timestamp": "2021-06-15T06:44:41", "content": "really very nice demo", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,354.90478
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/14/pumping-station-one-takes-on-the-machine/
Pumping Station: One Takes On The Machine
Jakob Griffith
[ "Transportation Hacks" ]
[ "challange", "ice cream", "pumping station: one", "scion" ]
Part one and Part two of Hackerspace Pumping Station: One taking on the Scion challenge are up and ready for your viewing pleasure. The team at Pumping Station: One built a Tron themed bicycle that when setup properly, would churn ice cream that turned your urine neon in about 6 minutes by using dry ice and ethyl alcohol. Besides sounding not so tasty, and having a multitude of problems along the way, the project turned out the be a success. The question becomes, does it stand up to the last Hackerspace, NYC Resistor, who made a drink mixing slot machine ? And how will both fair against the up and coming Musical Building by Crash Space? [Thanks Deven]
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[ { "comment_id": "197058", "author": "Grammar Nazi", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T02:48:09", "content": "*”fare”, not “fair”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197060", "author": "zool", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T03:00:07", "content": "meh", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197109", "author": "Digital", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T04:11:51", "content": "@zoolwell played sir, well played", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197116", "author": "Cindy Auligny", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T04:22:22", "content": "they will, for sure.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197215", "author": "MS3FGX", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T08:36:38", "content": "Well, I might have to agree with his sentiments on this one. This is throughly unimpressive in about every way imaginable.I don’t see how the build took as long as it did, or how it could have cost anywhere near $3000. Perhaps more importantly, this doesn’t even seem like it qualifies for the challenge, as the bike itself is not any different than a normal bicycle (except it is now very, very ugly), the only thing they really did was make a simple little platform that takes the rotation of the wheel and mixes the ice cream (oh, and that broke the first time they used it too).To even compare this to the drink-mixing slot machine from NYC Resistor is insulting.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197219", "author": "Jaku", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T09:03:35", "content": "I was actually there for that… went to solder some stuff and got to taste the ice cream. It actually wasn’t that bad.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197269", "author": "d01", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T13:08:39", "content": "Unimaginative , unimpressive , poor cooperation between members (i wanted that fatty who kept swearing like every 2 seconds to be dead) and let’s be honest it didn’t even work.Personally i didn’t think that NYC’s stuff was impressive to begin with , but compared to this thing it’s godlike.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197588", "author": "youjelly", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T19:10:37", "content": "MS3FGX have you started any cool projects lately?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197621", "author": "Matt", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T19:44:03", "content": "I think you guys are forgetting. This was done in a 3 week time span. Ordering parts means about a week of last time. Which gives you 2 weeks to prototype / assemble.These projects are pretty damned impressive across the board for the time requirements.And the miracle of video editing really fails to convey the cost to people. Most folks have day jobs and family / friends / what have you.Here’s a the time lapse of the NYCR build:http://www.vimeo.com/15773466People worked long and hard to make that thing. I personally love PS:One’s project. I think they had some rough spots, but that’s why this competition is fun. It’s difficult!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197664", "author": "d3c4f", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T21:04:23", "content": "I for one thought it was a cool project. Sure it broke at the end, but it was such a minor thing that broke. A little more engineering and you have a portable ice cream maker.Pretty sweet if you ask me. ;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197735", "author": "MB", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T22:58:32", "content": "ice cream is SWEET!! i finally get a joke on the fist try", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,357.111416
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/14/android-oscilloscope/
Android Oscilloscope
Mike Szczys
[ "Android Hacks" ]
[ "android", "bluetooth", "dsPic", "java", "LMX9838", "oscilloscope", "python", "sdk" ]
https://hackaday.com/wp-…395581.jpg?w=470
Here’s a 2-channel Oscilloscope for your Android phone . It uses a base module driven by a dsPIC for signal processing. From there, an LMX9838 Bluetooth module broadcasts the data to the phone so that the waveform can be displayed. [Yus] ported some Python code he had been using over to a set of Java and XML files in order to get it working on Android. This was actually the first time he worked with the SDK… we’d say he’s a quick learner. See it in action after the break. [Thanks Gabriel]
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[ { "comment_id": "196959", "author": "Spork", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T20:02:27", "content": "That is a cool hack. Remote O-Scope is sometimes useful and not having to carry your DSO Nano around is a nice plus.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196960", "author": "Terry", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T20:02:54", "content": "Any possibility of seeing the same (or similar) app available for jailbroken iphones?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196972", "author": "Samuel", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T21:05:56", "content": "Face it: iPhone is a weak device. It will always be like that.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196974", "author": "fbr", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T21:16:01", "content": "@Terryi don’t think so. hackers generally like open platforms for hacking.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196979", "author": "dext3r", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T22:03:07", "content": "lol “open platforms for hacking”i’d say hackers are generally up for any challenge, regardless of how “open” the platform is.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196991", "author": "Trollicus", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T22:50:53", "content": "Any chance of getting this on Windows 7 mobile??????Ok ok ok , I’m Just kidding!!!(I’ll stick to dead baby jokes)Yes, I vomited a little when I said that…. Although if you did port this it would double the number of useful windows 7 mobile apps.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196993", "author": "Mio", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T22:54:27", "content": "Whoa.Was this built on a dev board? Is there a schematic? I want one. The bluetooth module he used is a leadless part, sadly.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196999", "author": "vonskippy", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T23:22:53", "content": "Nice that instead of putting any type of useful voice over, he overlays his information video with some craptastic music.Hopefully I didn’t miss the naked pole grinding girls – I stopped watching 15 seconds in.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197009", "author": "cpmike", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T23:57:47", "content": "I REALLY wish he included a schematic, because that is awesome.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197010", "author": "Wade", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T00:12:43", "content": "Nice. I’d buy one in a heartbeat – talk about voltage isolation! Could have used something like this back when I was troubleshooting hybrid locomotives – trying to debug 350V DC circuits on a moving train is tricky. Would be especially useful when you don’t want to be standing right next to the circuit under test.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197022", "author": "fluidic", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T01:15:14", "content": "An oscilloscope, right.So why’s the one on my bench so big and heavy? Maybe it’s full of rocks?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197037", "author": "rallen71366", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T02:02:13", "content": "Probably for the same reason mine is: IT’S OLD. The only thing better than this would be if they made a spectrum analyzer module (with tracking gen, of course) that would go up to 8GHz. I would have to sell one of the kids to have it though. :( The holidays just wouldn’t be the same.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197048", "author": "MS3FGX", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T02:44:08", "content": "Hm, I wouldn’t mind one of those myself.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197076", "author": "Berserk87", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T03:41:28", "content": "I wish this was commercially available.and around $30.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197124", "author": "sonicj", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T04:36:14", "content": "@spork i don’t think anything here was hacked. more like developed.@Mio any SPP bluetooth adapter module should work. bluesmurf, roving networks, etc.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197147", "author": "Addidis", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T05:10:33", "content": "This is awesome. Ive been thinking of making a scope with pic32. This will probably be quite useful when i do.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197149", "author": "Terry", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T05:16:12", "content": "I mentioned the iphone because it could be a dual iphone/ipad app which would be pretty cool.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197186", "author": "Erik J", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T06:43:27", "content": "@fluidicYou need somewhere to put all those premium nobs and buttons. :-) And I’m guessing your O-scope will still work in 10 years, this probably won’t.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197200", "author": "marcelino_pogi", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T06:59:35", "content": "http://projectproto.blogspot.com/that is the personal blog of the author.you might want to check the other stuff…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197222", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T09:16:46", "content": "Oh man I HAD to go for the Omnia 2 because it’s WinMo’s last gasp, right?Gotta get in some WinMo fun while I still can right?WRONGModern hardware combined with old OS and all the devs have jumped ship for either IOS, Android or WinPho7.Ouch…However, this is really really cool for the folks who can make use of it.Nice work!!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197278", "author": "Doug", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T13:45:04", "content": "while its very useful and an extremely well thought out and executed hack, does it only sample at 4ksps? and only -8 to 8 volts?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197419", "author": "lnm", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T17:41:23", "content": "The schematic has been added to the author’s post.http://projectproto.blogspot.com/2010/09/android-bluetooth-oscilloscope.html", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197427", "author": "kups", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T17:48:25", "content": "LOL song (Giyang). I would definitely buy something like this.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200038", "author": "jmfriedt", "timestamp": "2010-10-20T18:27:34", "content": "“Any possibility of seeing the same (or similar) app available for jailbroken iphones?”you might (or might not) enjoyhttp://jmfriedt.free.fr/lm_iphone.pdf(unfortunatelyin French, but will be happy to translate to englishupon request): using the openbtstack for ipodapplications (using the opensource iphonedevonlinuxtoolchain)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "293458", "author": "oldschooler", "timestamp": "2010-12-31T03:43:53", "content": "Pretty cool hack! This wouuld give a use to your phone even after it’s outdated or you’ve upgraded (’till you hack the new phone’s OS of course)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "386823", "author": "elvynopolous", "timestamp": "2011-04-27T11:48:02", "content": "Hah, eat this fanboi haters, iPad oscilloscope:[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8bXpzppdR0&w=640&h=390]", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "421047", "author": "Jeff Wilson", "timestamp": "2011-07-22T03:27:11", "content": "Go to BackyardBrains.com/ios for a scope app that works with the iphone or ipad.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "590506", "author": "Richard", "timestamp": "2012-02-28T01:23:00", "content": "We’ve just brought this out for Android which does oscilloscope mode, as well as SPI, I2C, RS232, RS485, CAN, 8-bit data (in/out) and analogue signal generator…http://www.candroid.co.ukRichard", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "772196", "author": "Brunner", "timestamp": "2012-09-05T13:22:54", "content": "Hi, I would like to know what chart library did you use to implement oscilloscope for Android.Thanks!", "parent_id": "590506", "depth": 2, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "778090", "author": "Richard", "timestamp": "2012-09-10T09:57:05", "content": "Hi,We used our own library of routines, drawing to the “surface” object directly.Kind regardsRichard", "parent_id": "772196", "depth": 3, "replies": [] } ] } ] }, { "comment_id": "2545605", "author": "Alex.", "timestamp": "2015-04-28T19:04:29", "content": "Here is ready for use Bluetooth oscilloscopehttp://AR-Oscilloscope.com", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,356.615548
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/14/cadsoft-eagle-migrating-to-xml/
Cadsoft Eagle Migrating To XML
Mike Szczys
[ "News" ]
[ "cadsoft", "eagle", "open source", "pcb", "schematic", "xml" ]
[PT] posted about an exciting development from Cadsoft , the migration to XML based parts, schematics, and board layouts. The adoption of this open standard goes hand-in-hand with the open hardware initiatives people like [PT] have been pushing for. Cadsoft Eagle is our go-to schematic and PCB software. We even have a tutorial which guides you through preparing your files for PCB manufacture . But the files containing parts libraries, schematics, and board layouts have always been binaries. A transition to XML means a lot of things. They will be easier to edit, and much friendlier for tracking changes using version control systems like SVN, CVS, Mercurial SCM, Git, etc. But immediately on our minds is the accessibility for hacking. Think of how easy XML parsing is in programs like Python. It should be snap to write scripts on a whim that will manipulate the XML files in any way imaginable. This doesn’t discount the value of Eagle, it extends the usability far beyond what any team of engineers at Cadsoft could produce by themselves. And for that, we say Bravo.
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[ { "comment_id": "196925", "author": "Nick McClanahan", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T18:15:29", "content": "There have been a few text formats for libraries & schematics, but xml would be the easiest and most flexible. Good stuff – can’t wait to see it start showing up in EDA packages!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196928", "author": "macegr", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T18:19:58", "content": "It’ll make projects like Eagle3D and possibly some importing and exporting tasks easier, but the ULP system is already way more powerful with in-application interactivity if you’re interested in expanding Eagle’s functions. No, the advantage of XML is merely that your designs will not become useless far in the future, and you could theoretically create filters to convert to other PCB packages (though you could do this with ULPs anyway).What would be a REAL breakthrough is if someone had created a universal XML standard for schematic+netlist+PCB, and then Eagle and other PCB tools adopted it. Then we’d have reason to celebrate…any PCB file would open in any PCB CAD program? That would rule. And is not what is happening here, yet.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196942", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T19:16:50", "content": "Eagle is awesome. It has somewhat of a steep learning curve but once you learn how to use it I find it is nearly impossible to use other tools (in the same price/performance bracket) because you will always like the features in Eagle better.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196948", "author": "DarkFader", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T19:31:01", "content": "So, no more viral license blacklisting anymore? Luckily it’s free for small PCBs anyway.With XML, you will probably be able to export a partlist and whatnot by just doing XSLT. I used to write scripts and excel macro’s just for doing that. But only I knows how it worked, so it was kind of useless.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196953", "author": "Squirrel", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T19:38:59", "content": "freerouting.net has an autorouter that can be indirectly used with eagle files to do a much better job than Eagle’s built-in autorouter (one thing which I find very useful is the ability to specify which way–horizontally or vertically– a given layer should try to be routed).Only problem is, at least with the board which I tried it with, it took over a day and a half before I stopped it, then I had to route the last few (10 or so out of ~400 total) airwires by hand.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196969", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T20:53:00", "content": "A day and a half!?!? That is ridiculous. Electra can handle anything I throw at it in less than 10 minutes (with the max number of passes)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197001", "author": "Doug Jackson", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T23:28:13", "content": "Eagle may well be an awesome product, but its licensing is still extremely restrictive for hobbyist use – The projects I create use 150mm x 150mm boards, so I am operating outside the license if I use it personally.At least KiCad is open.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197004", "author": "Kevin", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T23:38:06", "content": "@Doug – Don’t forget about gEDA!A major advantage of both systems is that the files are in a text format. Not XML, but it will be interesting to see if XML is really required here. XML seems quite different from, say, the SPICE netlist (Or KiCad, or gEDA) format that I would have imagined they would choose.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197017", "author": "marco", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T00:49:03", "content": "@Doug take a look at fritzing.org I’m using that now. Free, cross-platform, easy to share and find parts and projects, etc etc.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197025", "author": "Simon", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T01:34:13", "content": "@Squirrel: Eagle has the preferred directionality on a per-layer basis right there in the autoroute dialog. You can choose horizontal, vertical, either diagonal, or all combined from a pulldown next to the layer. As far as I’m aware, it’s always had that – well at least for the last 5 years or so…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197115", "author": "Cindy Auligny", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T04:18:53", "content": "Eagle is really awesome. The features in Eagle seems to be better. But I have some trouble when first use its tools, it takes me some times to get familiar with.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197185", "author": "0x6d64", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T06:42:56", "content": "@Squirrel: This is why i don’t use autoroute. To be fair: I suck at configuring them and only route small PCBs.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197223", "author": "confus", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T09:21:20", "content": "“in programs like Python”This hurt my brain.Anywho maybe one they there’ll be no size restriction for non commercial use. The article got my hopes up.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197231", "author": "martin", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T09:57:35", "content": "@squirrelDon’t use autoroute. It will never produce results as good as a human routed board (except maybe for some special exceptions like parts of a motherboard).If you route by hand you can considerate things like power and data lines, interference, ground return paths, digital vs analog signals, everything an autorouter (at least one of eagle’s level) will not do.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197252", "author": "Colecago", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T11:36:33", "content": "Plus, routing by hand is fun and relaxing. Turn on the headphones and just go.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "199435", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-19T23:00:10", "content": "@Colecago I prefer routing in silence, I had good success doing it while laying with my eyes closed before I went to sleep, although that’s small projects only of course, and mostly done on stripboard.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/14/touring-the-available-nokia-lcd-screens/
Touring The Available Nokia LCD Screens
Mike Szczys
[ "Cellphone Hacks" ]
[ "2760", "6100", "6101", "breakout", "lcd", "nokia", "rossum", "spi" ]
https://hackaday.com/wp-…630674.jpg?w=470
[Rossum’s] taking a look at the Nokia LCD screens that are both plentiful and begging to be bent to your will. For quite some time the Nokia 6100 screens have been used in a lot hacks , but he wanted to see what else is out there. He digs into his junk box of cell phones and comes up with a couple to test; the Nokia 6101 and Nokia 2760. The screens use a 3-wire SPI interface, which he sniffs out with a logic analyzer. At power-up the cellphone polls the screen to determine which type of LCD controller is connected. [Rossum] grabs these commands from the logic analyzer and uses it to determine the hardware in use with each screen. He made himself a nice breakout board which has connectors for several different screens. The firmware he’s using detects when a screen is attached and switches to the applicable protocol for that display. Take a look at the video after the break.
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[ { "comment_id": "196894", "author": "goldscott", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T16:29:45", "content": "Sweet break-out board.Next project: Make all the screens function together in a multi-monitor like setup.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196897", "author": "Mr Hacker", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T16:35:57", "content": "how about throwing in a driver circuit and a adapter , external screen ready", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196905", "author": "Trollicus", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T17:03:36", "content": "I have a small(but growing) collection of screens(including some used in this project)I have no source of these connectors, and I’m wary of soldering them although I have soldered some in the past, it’s no fun.At least having a pinout will allow me to etch a board with a little more certainty. It’s always nice to have someone to follow. Just knowing it’s a 3 wire spi makes them more interesting for me. I honestly took one look at the connector and put them in a drawer.If you do decide to sell these breakout boards(as a kit or assembled) You have one waiting customer here.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196916", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T17:45:12", "content": "i have a small collection of crap that i am too dumb or lazy to hack. it consists of one completely disassembled samsung impression. which had the most amazing screen i’ve ever had (amoled) , more vibrant/lifelike than my current cellphone.. a laptop screen and corresponding touchpad. the end, i said small. who wants it?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196941", "author": "Eirinn", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T19:16:07", "content": "@Jeditalian I know how you feel, i got a collection of screens too that i’m too dumb to use :S", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196967", "author": "mowcius", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T20:40:53", "content": "Touchpads are pretty easy to use. Just find out the PS2 pinout and you’re away.If you wanna get rid of that display I’m willing to take it :DMowcius", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196978", "author": "Shadyman", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T21:38:40", "content": "So much win! :DHe has schematics on the site, and says he’ll be posting code and PCBs soon on Sourceforge.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196996", "author": "Trollicus", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T23:01:53", "content": "I have some AVR assembly code for using the sed13xx controller if anyone is interested.It’s just the basics, write ascii characters and bmp graphics. If you want to use the extra features of the controller you should be able to get them from the data sheet as they are pretty straightforward. Right now I have a large 5″x2.75″ Hyundai HG25604 connected to an AVRMega16 (it uses the SED1330F but the SED13xx series is mostly the same startup) It’s the one from all electronics($18.50) and makes a good beginner project for those just getting started with graphic LCD’s This one uses a parallel interface, but switching to SPI is just a few lines of code to change.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196997", "author": "George Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T23:10:37", "content": "Nice little project. He should sell the boards and make a few $$, I’d probably buy a couple.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197003", "author": "Xtremegamer", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T23:30:36", "content": "mozaic with nokia screen comes to mind :)anyone up for the challange ?if you do make one with at least 100 nokia screen , i’ll donate 30$US to your paypal :),Greetz", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197179", "author": "elektrophreak", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T06:04:46", "content": "hey that is very nice!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197183", "author": "brixtonite", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T06:30:26", "content": "The demo was nice. The soundtrack was awesome!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197208", "author": "nes", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T07:49:23", "content": "@Trollicus:“I have no source of these connectors, and I’m wary of soldering them although I have soldered some in the past, it’s no fun.”The Nokia 6101 has a flexi-cable connecting the screen to the mainboard where the signals are carried along separate wires. Should be relatively easy to snip the mainboard header off and solder the wires to a decent sized connector. Here’s a pic:http://bit.ly/dmcuRG", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197315", "author": "hack-cough", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T15:16:34", "content": "What about digital camera’s lcd screen?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197918", "author": "erak", "timestamp": "2010-10-16T10:18:11", "content": "@hack-coughI have the same question. Have a couple of pentax optio displays just waiting for some action", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "206260", "author": "armando", "timestamp": "2010-11-01T18:09:01", "content": "Do you know where i can find the nokia 2760 pinout ? ( for FBUS)I have a lot of old nokias to use on my hacks, but some (like 2760) doesn’t have the pinout on the internet.Thanks.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "207730", "author": "rossum", "timestamp": "2010-11-04T19:18:39", "content": "@armandohttp://cpkb.org/wiki/Nokia_2760_pinout", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "211440", "author": "wiccadwitch", "timestamp": "2010-11-12T15:47:17", "content": "I have the same question as someone asked above. how useful would a digital camera lcd be in such hacks? I currently have a screenfrom a hp photosmart 435. it has a small ribbon style connector. Anyone have any interesting ideas for such a thing? would love to make a fun project out of this thing.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "278495", "author": "Imran", "timestamp": "2010-12-09T07:10:18", "content": "Hellooooooo …Here are my Nokia Hacks .. 320×240 TFTs ..http://forum.sparkfun.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=23767&hilit=nokia+e51http://forum.sparkfun.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=20935&start=0http://forum.sparkfun.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=20818&p=106791&hilit=nokia+e51#p106791Enjoy …Imran", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "282897", "author": "Cata", "timestamp": "2010-12-12T10:11:02", "content": "Can you tell me if you use LCD display froom Philips 960? I search specification to use it , but i don’t found anywere.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "413381", "author": "nash211", "timestamp": "2011-07-05T11:24:24", "content": "wow that thing was Awesome!Great! can you share to everyone the diagram,who visit this siteThat thing can be turn into LCD googles ! ! !plz can you share about the diagram, thank you . . .", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "910910", "author": "ElectronicsHobby", "timestamp": "2012-12-29T12:28:57", "content": "Is it possible to share information on Nokia 7210 Supernova LCD (seems it is 240 X 320) which has 24 bit connector?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "938729", "author": "Imran", "timestamp": "2013-01-13T17:02:28", "content": "Hello ,,,I am commercially selling the codes ..if you need driver software including the LCD pinouts of Nokia 7210 Supernova LCD then contact me ..thanksImran Naeemelect_design_eng@yahoo.comhttp://www.flickr.com/maan2kReply", "parent_id": "910910", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/14/larson-scanner-hacking/
Larson Scanner Hacking
Caleb Kraft
[ "LED Hacks" ]
[ "cylon", "larson scanner" ]
We all love a good larson scanner. They’re so iconic that Evil Mad Scientist Laboratories makes a kit. However, just getting a kit and building it isn’t enough for many of us. How would we make a larson scanner better? Simply by adding more. EMSL shows us how you can modify their kit in both hardware and code to chain them together.  They detail the modifications very clearly and show some video examples. You can see a three larson scanner chain in action after the break. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9Bd3uFi5ls]
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[ { "comment_id": "196835", "author": "Sci", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T14:37:25", "content": "With all the work that went into this upgrade, I don’t understand why he uses “an old scanner that has seen better days” as the third one, where it’s missing LED makes the whole thing seem a bit broken.Okay, it proves previous ones can be upgraded too, but the visual effect makes the whole thing seem unfinished.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196839", "author": "Seth", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T14:41:00", "content": "I rewired the 16 leds in my tail light and used a RBBB arduino kit to make it a Larson scanner…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzjPWYCZ8Uw", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196882", "author": "TopHat", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T15:52:09", "content": "I do love the cat5 cable as the patch wires, that’s always what I seem to have around.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196896", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T16:35:13", "content": "@TopHat agreed, it’s also the cheapest for bulk wire I’ve found. Looked at spools, trunk cables.. cat5 is ubiquitous enough to be the most economical – unless someone has better sources? :D@Seth Nice, now I kinda want to put a knight rider grill/cylon eye on my Saab", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196910", "author": "cde", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T17:25:23", "content": "@Seth CANT be street legal. Holy mother of getthehellofftheroad!@Tophat @Erik, the verizon/bell telco guys tend to waste alot of bell wire around their giant outdoor block/neighborhood boxes. Those are useful and FREE. That, or cat3 wire. Cheaper than cat5, even on a per pair baises.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196923", "author": "JB", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T18:11:58", "content": "@Erik Johnson:You can’t put one in your car unless it uses colors that aren’t blue or red. I installed a red one in a friend’s car and he came back shortly after asking me to uninstall it because he got a ticket. Cop told him that across the US those 2 colors are banned and for official emergency use. Also he suggested to check the local law in other states, as some other colors might be reserved. He mentioned amber is safe though. The ticket got dismissed in court after he proved it was uninstalled.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196924", "author": "JB", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T18:14:21", "content": "I almost forgot. The cop also said that you could have the red and blue on front ONLY if it was as part of an alarm system and only when the car was parked (not moving) and the alarm going off. Once you are driving it can be considered (at least in NY) police impersonation.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196934", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T18:46:03", "content": "@JB Seth’s mod and what I was thinking was the stock brake bar. Some cars it blinks as a stock installment, why not add some nerd flare and animate it? I mean it IS supposed to get attention and make people slow down behind you, they always catch my eye like those goddamned cadillac LED lights@cde I used to scavenge the phone box of my neighborhood all the time, at most I only found ~6ft lengths laying around but I always collected anything of usable length as a kid… It was always solid core which is useful for breadboarding…Sometimes I need stranded for its better resilience to metal fatigue which I fall back on cat5 for now", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197007", "author": "temper", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T23:43:03", "content": "Why are these called scanners instead of light/LED chasers? For instance, what is it that they are scanning?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197057", "author": "MS3FGX", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T02:47:12", "content": "I didn’t realize this sort of thing had a real name.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197308", "author": "JB", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T14:58:10", "content": "@Erik,Nothing wrong with doing it to your brake light. I thought you wanted it on the front of the car since you mentioned “Knight Rider”. I put it on the front of the car like the Knight Rider car for my friend and he got a ticket ;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197309", "author": "JB", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T15:00:25", "content": "@MS3FGX, me neither. I always called it the “cylon eye”, since it is older than Knight Rider (I think)Does Larson stand for anything or is it a proper name? (guy who invented it, perhaps?)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197314", "author": "squall_line", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T15:14:18", "content": "@JB, Larson is for Glen Larson, the creator of both the original BSG as well as Knight Rider. The story on EMSL has a link to the original kit and the story behind it.@Sci, it was a guest blog-post, and I hadn’t really expected it to get picked up and spread about the interwebs the way it has been. It was already late at night by the time I took the video, so I tossed an old scanner in to prove it worked. I could have put a new unit together, but at that hour, thought it better not to be soldering anything.My work is not representative of the quality that official EMSL staff would normally put in towards a blog post.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/14/assassins-creed-blades-make-us-wince/
Assassin’s Creed Blades Make Us Wince
Mike Szczys
[ "Wearable Hacks" ]
[ "assassin's creed", "drawer", "knife", "slider", "taxi driver", "weapon" ]
[TheBserk] made himself a set of auto-locking and auto-retracting hidden blades inspired by those in the game Assassin’s Creed. As you can see in the demo (and build guides) after the break, they work really well. We don’t like the idea of sharpened metal ramming its way past our wrists. But it’s not the first time we’ve seen dangerous arm-mounted hacks . Reminiscent of Taxi Driver , [TheBserk] uses drawer slides from the local home store for his build. They are cut to length, and modified using springs for the automatic action. There is a lock to keep the blade extended, and a pull-wire to actuate it. Although dangerous, the build is well done. We think someone has mechanical engineering in his future, and possibly a trip to the emergency room. The demonstration [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt4lEdi1UII] Build guide part 1 [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8EJTn35lTc] Build guide part 2 [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVZByih_0s4] [Thanks Kentaro]
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It probably won’t helpyou on a one on encounter with a knifefighting artist (and there are some realbad-azz dudes out there who expect to getcut but have the mental focus to destroytheir opponent). they are not game boygeeks sitting in mommy’s basement.what next ? how to act ghetto and whereto hide your crack stash so the po-po won’tfind it ?geeez, HAD is really slumming it eh ?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "624075", "author": "Blue", "timestamp": "2012-04-08T13:22:59", "content": "so its now illegal to build prototypes of interesting ideas? I pity your country.", "parent_id": "196764", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "196765", "author": "Max", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T12:18:28", "content": "I’m not very happy with you guys supporting weapon hacks like this one. It’s one thing to build paintball sentrie guns and small-scale flame throwers. But this thing is a real deadly and hidden weapon. And here you go with letting everybody know how to build one.In my honest opinion this is not cool, this is wrong!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "984410", "author": "Macy Jagger", "timestamp": "2013-03-25T19:54:18", "content": "Welcome to America. If guns and knives make you cower in fear, you are clearly in the wrong place.", "parent_id": "196765", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "196766", "author": "Tom", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T12:19:41", "content": "Reminds me of Taxi Driver", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196767", "author": "diago", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T12:26:17", "content": "Clever, but WTF?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196770", "author": "aleki", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T12:32:33", "content": "Isnt that how altaiir lost his ring finger?. That kid had better be careful", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "957574", "author": "Grace", "timestamp": "2013-02-10T02:19:27", "content": "Actually, to use the blade he had to cut it off. It wasn’t an accident. Also, its just a game! Chill out!", "parent_id": "196770", "depth": 2, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "957586", "author": "Brendan", "timestamp": "2013-02-10T02:39:52", "content": "I’m 21 now and still have all ten of my fingers unharmed since. Thanks for the feedback. – TheBserk", "parent_id": "957574", "depth": 3, "replies": [] } ] } ] }, { "comment_id": "196776", "author": "BIOS", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T12:49:52", "content": "The whole time I watched the first vid I was waiting for it to take off a finger! Cool device.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196778", "author": "Wolf", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T12:50:46", "content": "Very cool. I’ve been thinking of building one of these ever since I saw the ac trailer:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc-ClutaN_I", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196786", "author": "moep", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T12:56:19", "content": "Dude, get yourself a tshirt (tutorial videos)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196787", "author": "Decepticon", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T12:57:02", "content": "Can’t wait to see the news report of one of these being caught on a kid in a school.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196796", "author": "ENKI-][", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:07:11", "content": "Would this be illegal to transport over state lines in the US (as switchblades are)?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196797", "author": "Chuckt", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:08:03", "content": "My city has a law against carrying concealed weapons and that is why people carry their knives in a holster on their hip.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196798", "author": "elektrophreak", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:08:15", "content": "holy crap man!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196799", "author": "Ian", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:12:03", "content": "Wow… yea really clever. Neat gadget. Blunt/Rubber ended one would make a great addition to a Halloween costume for sure.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196804", "author": "Hacksaw", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:24:04", "content": "The jail cell was mentioned but they forgot the Federal weapons charge…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196807", "author": "chuckt", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:27:43", "content": "Some cities might consider the length illegal (like carrying a sword) and there is one knife in my city which is illegal because knives that are spring loaded are illegal where I’ve lived.There are also laws against brandishing (wave or show) a weapon.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196808", "author": "Bill", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:28:10", "content": "Chill guys, it’s Halloween month.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "196810", "author": "Col. Panic", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:36:24", "content": "Trick or treat… gimmie all your candy or I’ll cut you!", "parent_id": "196808", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "196811", "author": "Gdogg", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:36:36", "content": "Holy crap guys chill out. He figured out how to make it, and it’s really cool.I don’t think he’ll be carrying it around. I agree on the rubber tip or whatever for a halloween costume though.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196814", "author": "Stan", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:39:47", "content": "Chill guys, it’s Halloween month.Posted at 6:28 am on Oct 14th, 2010 by BillFinally someone in the comments gets why this was made. Does the dude really seem like that much of a badass, or are all of you just thinking outloud when you are blabbering on about state laws?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196815", "author": "PiggySpam", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:44:25", "content": "@Max I dont think there is anything wrong with showing this hack. If people want to hurt people and conceal weapons they will… they aren’t going to go to all the trouble of building something like this. After all this video is from America…land of buying guns over the counter… and when its a 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms, I think DIY knives are the least of the problems…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196816", "author": "Eirinn", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:44:43", "content": "Where i’m from it’s extremely illegal to possess and even own concealed weapons – a qualified guess would be 1-2 years in prison for owning one.With that said, awesome contraption! Just ditch the sharpened blade and replace it by something softer and bendable. Almost just as cool and totally legal.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196821", "author": "rasz", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:52:48", "content": "Blunt/Rubber yesreal metal blade a big no no", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196822", "author": "dcj2", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:55:40", "content": "am i the only one thinking we’ll see this kid on the news someday, and not in a good way?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196823", "author": "PartyCentral", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:56:04", "content": "This would be a great costume, the police are way to sensitive nowendays! With their tazers and pepper spray, and guns!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196826", "author": "Sci", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T14:14:52", "content": "@aleki Actually if I recall correctly he was just TOLD he’d have to loose his ring finger, but it didn’t actually happen. Just a test to ensure he was really willing to commit to life as an assassin.To be fair on the kid, if you’ve already got the dremel sitting there, you’re going to take the easy route and just cut the runner to a pointy shape. It may be sharp, but a single bulldog-clip isn’t going to give it enough locking force to penetrate. Unless I missed it in the videos, it’s not even properly sharpened, just de-burred.But yes, his next stage should be replacing the end with a plastic blade.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196827", "author": "Buzzkill", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T14:16:04", "content": "It will be fine until they say “drop your weapon”. That will become his “uh-oh” moment, and depending on his reaction, possibly his last.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196828", "author": "mad_max", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T14:19:26", "content": "Oh come one, he just cut it to a point. It’s not like he sharpened it and is threatening his classmates. Yeah, he was playing around with it acting like a badass, but who wouldn’t? It was a cool idea, and he figured out a really simple way to build it. Props to this kid.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196833", "author": "The Moogle", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T14:33:19", "content": "wow… I wonder what state he is in? All it would take is one neighbor seeing him through a window in his house and calling the cops and it’s “federal pound me in the ass prison” time", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196844", "author": "bluewraith", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T14:45:43", "content": "Kipkay did a nearly identical setup, only instead of a knife it was one of those dinky toothbrushes.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196850", "author": "djrussell", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T14:58:26", "content": "@buzzkill: totally reminds me of the xmen movie where the cop tells wolverine to drop his knives and shoots him in the head when he can’t.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196851", "author": "Shield", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T15:01:21", "content": "Wow a lot of douchebags on here.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196855", "author": "Chuckt", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T15:09:13", "content": "Why didn’t I get it? I usually go down to the local costume store and they usually give me real blades for Halloween.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196864", "author": "thetanktheory", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T15:13:51", "content": "I’m not really sure why everyone is so upset. I saw no malicious intent on the part of the kid in the video. And as for HAD “slumming it”? Seriously? It’s not your site, they can post and link to whatever they like. And if you’re insinuating that the post is in poor taste, then stop reading the blog. The site is called HACK a Day! This kid made a pretty clever hack, sure it’s dangerous but so are a lot of the posts on here. I’m sure a lot of people who read this blog also read 2600 or PHRACK, the information they put out can certainly be used to do bad things but that doesn’t make it wrong for people to have that knowledge. I hope to see many more posts like this.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196873", "author": "chrome", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T15:33:14", "content": "@Scinope you are wrong, in the first game he doesn’t have the middle finger because that’s where the blade pokes outin the second game (other time era) they modified the design and the middle finger can still stay attached (they even joke about it)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196874", "author": "Psyc0bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T15:35:19", "content": "All parts on order.overnight $20 all together.got to love amaz0n prime. :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196878", "author": "Piku", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T15:39:13", "content": "The first thing you’ll want to do is put on some clothing. Doing metalwork while half naked is not that safe.PS Internet – Stop whining about the laws of your country. Nobody cares.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196880", "author": "psuedonymous", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T15:43:21", "content": "From the looks of it, the same pull-wire used to unlock it for retraction is also used to unlock it for extension, requiring you to have you hand pulled out of the way of the blade to extend it. Still doesn’t prevent you having a finger dangling in the way, but the blade isn’t just floating loose in there.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196881", "author": "Spork", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T15:49:06", "content": "Two words: Chainmaille Glove.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196883", "author": "llamasandwitch", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T15:52:17", "content": "its a neat prop. Calm down. Don’t wear the dang thing outside in public and don’t do anything stupid with it (read wear the thing outside). Then who will come after you? When used as a neat prop or a hey guys look what I made its no more dangerous than one of those cheesy sword props from a movie.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196884", "author": "HometownHacker", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T15:53:04", "content": "I can see a TON of variations on this already:-Arm-mounted taser!-Arm-mounted RFID gas pump tag!-Arm-mounted USB drive!-Arm-mounted business card dispenser!-Arm-mounted TV remote!The list is endless. Impress your friends! Get that big promotion you’ve been trying for!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196889", "author": "Wolfton", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T16:04:06", "content": "I’m of the opinion that this is an interesting hack that HAD should cover, though I personally would not ever build something like this, nor would I allow my children to.The blade doesn’t appear to be designed with slashing in mind, but the concealer-extender does not seem to have what it takes to really do a whole lot of damage. I’d like to see him take out a pumpkin or a watermelon on a fence post.It appears to require a large downward force to deploy the blade, so it wouldn’t support deployment in an uppercut or a straight punch. A few slashes at extremely close range would probably derail the slider, if not snap the blade. Its not made of weapon grade steel. Its probably aluminum.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196890", "author": "chuckt", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T16:12:22", "content": "Why should you be concerned about the laws in my country? A kid brings a fake grenade to school and he gets arrested. You might get away with it if there are no laws in your country but a kid will mimic you and get arrested.http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local-beat/Boy-Brings-Grenade-to-School-Students-Evacuated-104854039.html", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196892", "author": "DarkAurora", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T16:18:40", "content": "Geez people, really? It’s not even a blade, just a cut piece of rail. No one complained about the “legality” of the arm mounted flamethrower. Nice work.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196898", "author": "Pilotgeek", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T16:37:05", "content": "@Everyone: Nobody comes to hackaday to read about the legality of daily posts. Some people don’t care about legality, fcc rules, or whether or not we should be wearing helmets. Please shut up.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196899", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T16:40:57", "content": "who gives a f* wow guys, its a cool hack and as they said, its the holloween month. u all kno u wanna make it. He didn’t make it sharp so stop ur b* and piku ur right, Stop whining about the laws of your country. Nobody cares. Givin ya props. its a good hack", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196901", "author": "walt", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T16:46:12", "content": "the site is called HACK-A-DAY!!! what’s with all the legal talk? some of you are too soft to even read about cool hacks. wtf?I’ll tell you one thing, when the shit hits the fan, the cleaver, resourceful people, like this kid, are going to be just fine. you softies, by all means, please, don’t arm yourselves. just keep your basements stocked with food n’ supplies. the rest of us will drop in to help ourselves when we need it. Armageddon be damned!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196906", "author": "Fuggy", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T17:04:22", "content": "AWESOME, a kid teaching kids to make deadly concealed weapons!! WTF are you doning HAD, yes i can see the kid has got talent, but this is not the way he should be showing it, your just giving popularity to making dangerous weapons! kids in my home town and other already dodgy places will want to make this and use them for mugging even more vulnerable people!!Please remove this video, make a stand against dangerous weapons. I’ve seen enough blood to last my lifetime, I’m serious.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "843744", "author": "WolfBoy", "timestamp": "2012-10-29T18:46:22", "content": "Yes some people would use this to mug someone. the video didnt really do anything, people where gunna try to build one anyway. i give props to the kid for havin the skill to do this and post it while not giving a s*** about yalls crap", "parent_id": "196906", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "196909", "author": "gunner", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T17:19:38", "content": "oh no, some kid made a pointed peice of drawer slide! SAVE THE CHILDREN!!!1 honestly HAD commenters are some of the thinnest skinned weiners i’ve encountered on the internet. this website is HACK-a-day, the whole idea is to build cool stuff, be creative, hacking cracking and less than legal stuff, its kind of the point…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196913", "author": "josh", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T17:28:47", "content": "I’m sure none of the people responding with “save the children…” ever played with homemade explosives or built anything like this. /sarcasmMessing around with dangerous projects like this as a kid got me interested in science and engineering, doubt I’m the only one..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196918", "author": "willyshop", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T17:53:30", "content": "OMYGODITSAWEAPON!relax, folks. It’s a modified drawer pull. Might be really good for eating peas, though!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196919", "author": "FDP", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T17:56:14", "content": "I don’t really feel that HAD needs to censor content just because it is potentially dangerous. Obviously this is not the kind of thing to bring out in public – unless, as many have stated, you want to get shot by a confused police officer.This isn’t a project that would interest me (apart from being curious about HAD reader reaction), but it is obviously the sign of an enquiring mind at work, and as such should be appreciated.As a teenager I built plenty of dangerous things that seemed cool at the time and ended up slicing off lots of little pieces of myself doing it. It’s a part of the learning experience, and frankly all the mild injuries I encountered as a teenager led to a serious respect for the tools that I use now.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/13/open-call-send-us-your-debounce-code/
Open Call: Send Us Your Debounce Code
Mike Szczys
[ "HackIt" ]
[ "assembly", "button", "c++", "code", "debounce", "filter", "switch" ]
If you’ve ever designed an embedded system with at least one button you’ve had to deal with button debouncing. This is also know as contact bounce , a phenomenon where a button press can be registered as multiple button presses if not handled correctly. One way to take care of this is with a hardware filter built from a resistor-capacitor setup, or by using a couple of NAND gates. We find that [Jack Ganssle] put together the most comprehensive and approachable look at contact bounce which you should read through if you want to learn more. We’re interested in software solutions for debouncing buttons. This seems to be one of the most common forum questions but it can be hard to find answers in the form of reliable code examples. Do you have debounce code that you depend on in every application? Are you willing to share it with the world? We’d like to gather as many examples as possible and publish them in one-post-to-rule-them-all. Send your debounce code to: debounce@hackaday.com Here’s some guidelines to follow: Please only include debounce code. Get rid of other unrelated functions/etc. You should send C code. If you want to also send an assembly code version that’s fine, but it must be supplementary to the C code. Please comment your code. This will help others understand and use it. You may be tempted to explain the code in your email but this info is best placed in the code comments Cite your sources. If you adapted this code from someone else’s please include a note about that in the code comments. As an example we’ve included one of our favorite sets of debounce code after the break. Please note how it follows the guidelines listed above. /*-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 10/13/2010: Button debounce code by Mike Szczys based on &quot;danni debounce&quot; code by Peter Dannegger: http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=189356#189356 This code detects and debounces button presses. It is tailored for use with AVR microcontrollers but I've adapted it for other architectures easily and successfully. It can be modified to use all eight bits on the same port for up to eight buttons. The interrupt service routine (ISR) at the bottom uses binary counter variables (ct0 and ct1) to check the buttons once every 10ms until 40ms has passed. If the button registeres the first and last times it reads it as a keypress. There is no functionality in this code for detecting a held button. --------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ // F_CPU used by debounce to calculate 10ms interrupts #define F_CPU 1200000 #include &lt;avr/io.h&gt; #include &lt;avr/interrupt.h&gt; //define pins used by buttons #define KEY_DDR DDRB #define KEY_PORT PORTB #define KEY_PIN PINB #define KEY0 1 //Button on PB1 #define KEY1 2 //Button on PB2 //Debounce variables unsigned char debounce_cnt = 0; volatile unsigned char key_press; unsigned char key_state; /*-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prototypes --------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ unsigned char get_key_press( unsigned char key_mask ); void init_timers(void); void init_io(void); /*-------------------------------------------------------------------------- FUNC: 10/13/10 - Used to read debounced button presses PARAMS: A keymask corresponding to the pin for the button you with to poll RETURNS: A keymask where any high bits represent a button press --------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ unsigned char get_key_press( unsigned char key_mask ) { cli(); // read and clear atomic ! key_mask &amp;= key_press; // read key(s) key_press ^= key_mask; // clear key(s) sei(); // enable interrupts return key_mask; } /*-------------------------------------------------------------------------- FUNC: 10/13/10 - Sets and starts a system timer PARAMS: NONE RETURNS: NONE --------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ void init_timers(void) { cli(); // read and clear atomic ! //Timer0 for buttons TCCR0B |= 1&lt;&lt;CS02 | 1&lt;&lt;CS00; //Divide by 1024 TIMSK0 |= 1&lt;&lt;TOIE0; //enable timer overflow interrupt sei(); // enable interrupts } /*-------------------------------------------------------------------------- FUNC: 10/13/10 - Initialize input and output registers PARAMS: NONE RETURNS: NONE --------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ void init_io(void) { //Setup Buttons KEY_DDR &amp;= ~((1&lt;&lt;KEY0) | (1&lt;&lt;KEY1)); //Set pins as input KEY_PORT |= (1&lt;&lt;KEY0) | (1&lt;&lt;KEY1); //enable pull-up resistors } /*-------------------------------------------------------------------------- FUNC: 10/13/10 - Main --------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ int main(void) { init_timers(); //start the timer init_io(); //setup the buttons for (;;) //loop forever { if( get_key_press( 1&lt;&lt;KEY0 )) { //KEY0 press detected. Do something here } if (get_key_press( 1&lt;&lt;KEY1 )) { //KEY1 press detected. Do something here } } } //-------------------------------------------------------------------------- ISR(TIM0_OVF_vect) // interrupt every 10ms { static unsigned char ct0, ct1; unsigned char i; //TCNT0 is where TIMER0 starts counting. This calculates a value based on //the system clock speed that will cause the timer to reach an overflow //after exactly 10ms TCNT0 = (unsigned char)(signed short)-(((F_CPU / 1024) * .01) + 0.5); // preload for 10ms interrupts i = key_state ^ ~KEY_PIN; // key changed ? ct0 = ~( ct0 &amp; i ); // reset or count ct0 ct1 = ct0 ^ (ct1 &amp; i); // reset or count ct1 i &amp;= ct0 &amp; ct1; // count until roll over ? key_state ^= i; // then toggle debounced state key_press |= key_state &amp; i; // 0-&gt;1: key press detect } [Photo credit: Jack Ganssle ]
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[ { "comment_id": "196442", "author": "George", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T20:23:35", "content": "“Site your sources” –> “Cite your sources”. Kthxbai.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196443", "author": "Chris Muncy", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T20:25:29", "content": "It would be great if HaD would have a forum for this kind of discussion instead of the comments section..Just saying…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196444", "author": "nrrdzilla", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T20:28:55", "content": "There’s other ways (besides the per-switch RC networks, etc.) to do this in hardware, esp with large numbers of switches to debounce.Consider that PLDs (or CPLDs) coupled with a single RC delay circuit allow a multi-channel debouncer to essentially “sample” the state of all the switches at some number of milliseconds (determined by said delay) after the first rising (or falling) edge on any of the switch lines.Sadly that PLD code won’t qualify for the contest :PI needed to do this in a system that would not tolerate the synchronous noise generated by an MCU, btw.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196448", "author": "fluidic", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T20:39:53", "content": "If switch bounce is a major issue for your application, you should do it in hardware. It’s not hard to do in code, you just shouldn’t.The general idea is to poll it at some frequency, then only switch if all / a majority of the samples in a given interval match. Run one variable for lastValue and one for matchCount. For each new sample, compare to lastValue, then increment or reset matchCount. If matchCount passes your threshold, toggle whatever the switch is switching. Sample at whatever frequency makes sense for your switch and application, and set the matchCount threshold similarly.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196450", "author": "PocketBrain", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T20:43:21", "content": "“you’ve had to deal with button debouncing. This is also know as contact bounce”button debouncing ≠ contact bounce. Contact bounce is the repetitive make/break problem and debouncing is how we mitigate this problem. Kinda the opposite things.I remember doing this on an FPGA in VHDL. Just started a 100mSec timer when a value changed. For a multi-button system wherein you may expect rapid pressing, the delay would need adjustment.that’s my time.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196451", "author": "Dave McDave", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T20:47:31", "content": "The method I use is to sample the switches once every 50ms. Switch bounce normally lasts no more than 20ms so you will get 1 solid state every time with no bounce. You can’t get much simpler than that, and it works!Then just add code to look for edges, held buttons, double-clicks etc. to suit the application.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196452", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T20:49:00", "content": "I usually just require a certain amount of on-time and off-time. quarter second is usually enough to not be noticeable as a delay", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196455", "author": "macegr", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T20:55:09", "content": "There aren’t really that many correct ways to do software debouncing. The example above is basically what most coders will implement eventually (we’re going to ignore people who hardcode wait loops in their main routine). However, the above example is trading off flexibility and accuracy for the ability to debounce larger numbers of inputs without too much memory use. Since there’s a global 10ms timer and only two possible counts, the debounce timeout can actually range from 10ms to almost 20ms. You have to design for the shortest timeout and accept random longer delays. If you have switches that need longer debouncing, say 50ms max, then since there’s only two counts per switch you must change the interrupt timer to 50ms and accept possible timeouts of 50ms to 100ms. The only way around this is to use a much more fine grained interrupt, say 1ms or less, then implement a separate multi-bit counter for every pin. Obviously using a byte counter is easiest, but if your button count rises 32, 64, or more inputs then the memory impact starts to get significant. Processing all the counters also starts requiring a lot of CPU time, especially if you’re trying to do it once every millisecond. So I would say software debouncing is viable for contacts with short bounce times, and low pin counts…but for larger numbers of inputs, some other type of debouncing method should be explored.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196456", "author": "non-n00b", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T20:55:28", "content": "Debounching is one of the most basic fundamental concepts one should learn in the world of embedded electronics. I don’t disagree with explaining the subject thoroughly, but the N00bs that might actually use this code need to learn how to write it themselves. Otherwise they won’t fulfill their potential as engineers. This rings back to something about teaching and fishing…MAKE THE N00Bs PROGRAM FOR REALZ, ITS GOOD FOR THEM!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196457", "author": "macegr", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T20:58:45", "content": "Dave McDave: your method is not at all guaranteed to work. Your 50ms sample might take place during a low cycle of a contact bounce, and you might miss the button press entirely. Your method would only work if the input sample was capturing any event within the 50ms window, which is viable only if you are using external RC debouncing.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196462", "author": "glagnar", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T21:15:38", "content": "This is the perfect debounce routine:http://www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/EntprellungScroll down to “Komfortroutine”. The article is in German but the code has English comments.It’s basically a state machine using vertical counters and it debounces 8 keys at once.This ‘contest’ is over. Seriously, don’t even bother. This is the best. Uses minimal resources, bulletproof and 100% reliable.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196467", "author": "Mythgarr", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T21:22:46", "content": "Why write off hardware debouncing? One of the most reliable ways (and it’s really not terribly expensive…) is to use an SPDT instead of a single-contact switch with cross-linked NAND gates (aka: SR Flip-Flop). You can do something similar in software if you’re willing to use up 2 inputs (or do something creative) for your switch, but it will end up synchronized to the clock. Seehttp://www.elexp.com/t_bounc.htmfor a decent explanation.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196468", "author": "cde", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T21:25:50", "content": "With intelligent interrupts, why bother?Interrupt on High to Low edge transition on Pin X. Button was pressed, run code, reset Interrupt, move on with your life.With an interrupt, no need to read the state of the button. As long as a transition from one state to the other has taken place, your golden.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196471", "author": "Charper", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T21:31:32", "content": "First off – I love hardware. But debouncing should NOT be done in hardware, no matter what you guys say. It increases cost and complexity when complexity for software is virtually free.As mentioned, the easiest way to do it is just call a ‘delay’ function using either timers or a dummy count loop.I don’t have specific code atm, but this is the best way I know of to do it on a PIC (not sure if you can do it for AVRs):Assumptions: Idle waiting is bad. Buttons are on an interrupt.When you get a port interrupt, you know the button was pressed. Disable interrupts on that port and set an interrupt ‘debounce’ timer. Go about with your business handling the interrupt and executing code. Eventually your debounce timer will break you out of your code (note that you can – and should! – make this a very low priority interrupt if you want real-time performance) and then re-enable port interrupts. If you want continuous button presses detected, you’ll have to force another interrupt if the button is still down.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196472", "author": "nes", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T21:33:13", "content": "Here’s one I’ve used in the past, in PIC assembly I’m afraid but is has comments in C. Beautifully written and absolutely tiny too:http://www.dattalo.com/technical/software/pic/debounce.html", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196474", "author": "DarkFader", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T21:35:17", "content": "I just used a transition interrupt to reset a counter. Anyway, max freq < sample freq / 2. Above that, it should not respond. Test with wave generator if you will or have too much time to spend on trivial things. geez.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196475", "author": "glagnar", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T21:35:57", "content": "nes, that’s basically the one I posted.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196477", "author": "superfungus", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T21:45:46", "content": "@cdeuhh, because the button might bounce and transition from high to low to high to low and run your ISR extra times? An ISR doesn’t necessarily fix anything. I don’t think you understood the problem…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196480", "author": "toto", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T21:54:28", "content": "just read the inputif the reading != from last reading then check what is the input stateHIGH => it bouncedLOW => it debouncedset a flag as you want it, this way bounce or debounce is no biggie. (my way ;) )", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196481", "author": "nes", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T21:57:40", "content": "glagnar: Oh yes, I believe it is. Must be a good technique then!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196484", "author": "nes", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T22:06:12", "content": "toto: that is not a reliable method. If you’re sampling the pins at regular intervals some period > than the expected bounce time you need to compare more than two of them to know whether you caught a bounce or a release.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196485", "author": "glagnar", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T22:06:58", "content": "nes, yes, it’s the same algorithm that is used in Maxim’s MAX6817 debounce IC:http://datasheets.maxim-ic.com/en/ds/MAX6816-MAX6818.pdf", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196489", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T22:21:58", "content": "To quote Will Ferrell, “I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here!” Seriously, HAD is making a mountain out of a molehill with this. I generally use tactile NO or NC switches with a pullup resistor and check for state change (usually 1->0) on the input pin, either by polling or interrupt. Set a 10ms timer or hardcode a 10ms delay if you can afford it, and go about your business. tact switches will debounce in <1ms so 10ms is even overkill.Or, if you need to be able to hold the button down and not trigger anything until the button is released, simply do a 10ms debounce after a state transition is detected, and then use a while loop or interrupt to react on the opposite state change (release button) and do another debounce. Easy as pie.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196492", "author": "Ulrich Lukas", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T22:39:36", "content": "@fluidic:Yeah, I usually do it that way, too.With larger required values of “matchCount”, you also have some amount of RF-interference-robustness.However, for multiple buttons, the vertical counter implementation posted by “glagnar” and “nes” seems to be the way to go.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196499", "author": "George Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T23:03:20", "content": "This is one reason I like using bounceless switches, like Hall Effect, Capacitive or similar.Cherry/Microswitch had a GREAT keyboard a while back. 5VDC, two OC outputs, Hall Effect and a 50uS output (I think it was 50).But, ya gotta do what ya gotta do.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196506", "author": "bigmechpilot", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T23:31:29", "content": "“We’re interested in software solutions for debouncing buttons.”Umm why? I’d rather throw a resistor & cap at it while keeping precious processor power dedicated to the actual task. If one is to write a closed loop program, having it sit around timing button states seems like a waist and will severely hinder processing capabilities. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve come across situations where a microcontroller seems to have exhausted it’s processing abilities (this is usually when your average person opts for a more powerful processor) where the entire issue could be remedied with efficient code and/or an additional component or two. One could argue that adding components drives up the cost. To that, I say buying microcontrollers with more horsepower than you actually need to get the job done adds to the price as well. Last I checked, microcontrollers cost a tad more than a small cluster of SMD resistors & caps.I think the issue stems from the decay of modern code due to a lack of programmers who still approaching programming as an art form. These days, it seems that too many programmers/coders are only focused on getting the job done and don’t want to slow down to go low level and really think things through anymore. In fact, many don’t even want to write their own code. They take bits n’ pieces from other sources which, all too often, are scraps found on the net. It has gotten to the point where this approach is not only accepted, but also becoming the norm and the line between programming and script writing is blurred. The big issue comes into play when programmers fail to acknowledge the reality that these scraps of code are sometimes flawed. By the time this is realized, the code has already found its way to many other programs or have even become libraries which accelerate the spread enabling the faulty code to infect new programs like a rampant virus. Just look at the stock market flash crash. Scary stuff. Image when this sort of rubbish makes its way into hardware. In a world facing the steady rise of robotic population whose actions depend on quality programming, this sort of negligence becomes extra scary! When I develop the AI to control the warrior class robots for the robot uprising, I’m writing my code from scratch. :-) All of it!If you’re going to program, then really program. If you’re going to apply this to hardware, then don’t be afraid to actually add some hardware. And, if you’re going to write a long comment on hack-a-day, grammar check is optional. I’m sure I’ll be hearing about it. ;)Now, I’ll say this: I have no formal educations with electronics/programming and I don’t do either as my day job. So, if someone wants to explain why I seems to be the only guy who thinks this way, let me know the reasons and the errors of my way. On the other hand, if you’re with me, can I get a “hell yeah!” or “amen!” or whatever you’re in the mood to exclaim.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196509", "author": "netshark", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T23:36:41", "content": "¿Would it be useful that i posted a simple AVR hardcoded debounce code?It was programmed in my early days with AVR, I began with assembler but today I code everything in C.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196510", "author": "michael", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T23:40:12", "content": "It is very application specific. I did some LCD / Mp3 work a few years ago. Skip to next song didnt need to be debounced because the code took so long to load the next file off the FS. It depends on the process time of the action.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196512", "author": "Chris", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T23:42:09", "content": "Specific code isn’t needed, just knowledge of the proper way to debounce a button.Mr. Syczys said, “One way to take care of this is with a hardware filter built from a resistor-capacitor setup” (better known as an RC integrator). But that’s only partially correct. It’s also necessary to convert the analog output of that filter to a digital signal through a Schmitt trigger. MCUs typically have these built-in on their digital inputs, so a separate one isn’t needed; but you *must* acknowledge that it exists if you’re going to emulate a proper debounce circuit in software.So as an example, to emulate a 10ms hardware debounce, just execute the following pseudocode every 1ms:1) If RawInput is pressed, then increment Counter by one, up to a max of ten.2) If RawInput is not pressed, then decrement Counter by one, down to a min of zero.3) If Counter is ten, then set DebouncedInput to pressed.4) If Counter is zero, then set DebouncedInput to not pressed.5) If Counter is any other value, then leave DebouncedInput at its previous state.6) Repeat for as many additional inputs as you need.1-2 implement the integrator, 3-5 implement the Schmitt trigger.Any reasonably competent person should be able to understand and correctly convert this pseudocode to actual code, for their target hardware and language of choice, in just a minute or two. Anyone who can’t should work it out on their own, rather than relying on a trivial canned code example, because they need the practice!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196523", "author": "Trollicus", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T00:13:05", "content": "Chris.I usually use an interrupt to increment the counter, but otherwise your example it what I use.usually debounce from most hardware(buttons) lasts about 7-23 ms with 14 being close to average. (this number is based solely on my own observations over the years, no testing on animals (or people other than myself) was performed.So an extra step0)Interrupt is called by MCU when pin pulled low(example)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196527", "author": "Trollicus", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T00:17:49", "content": "My numbers are for a simple contact switch and the time it takes for it to settle to high or low state on a 5 volt high. No hardware other than a pull -up resistor. Better switches will have lower denounce times, but as most people hold the contact way way longer than 10ms the code just works better if you count a little past. Again, this is from real-world practical experience.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196531", "author": "FusiveR", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T00:32:47", "content": "1. I am disappointed in HAD for requesting C code. They should have requested psuedo code instead.2. My debouncing method on mcu’s with system clocks is as follows:BOUNCE_DURATION = 30 millisecondsif button is pushed\r\n{\r\n\tstatic prev_time = 0\r\n\t\r\n if(currentTime() - prev_time &gt;= BOUNCE_DURATION)\r\n {\r\n\t\tdo stuff\r\n\t\tprev_time = currentTime()\r\n }\r\n\r\n}", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196534", "author": "Taylor Alexander", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T00:42:02", "content": "I would normally agree with everyone who says this is being blown out of proportion, but from reading the comments its clear that some people don’t understand debouncing properly.cde says to just have an interrupt “and move on with your life”. He is missing though that the whole point of debouncing isn’t just how to read the button, but dealing with the fact that mechanical buttons almost always “bounce” and actuate multiple times. If you have it in a fast interrupt, it will fire more than once with every press!toto says to just compare it to what it was and see if it changed, but again, you’ll just end up with it actuating multiple times if it bounces.Then others say do it in hardware, and others say do it in software. But really, there isn’t a best answer to that, though “hardware” is the more reliable option. Software is “free” until you run out of overhead, then its very expensive (paying a coder to do weird workarounds, or selecting a faster processor). Putting an RC filter on a button will pretty much never fail, and you don’t have to pay your programmer to deal with it. It may not matter in some applications, but if you’re runnings a single threaded processor and doing something complex, you might not want to sit and wait for 10 or 20 milliseconds to see if the button calms down.Hardware, then, seems like a much safer option. It adds two components per button, but does not require any additional thought, and it much less likely to get screwed up. With all the crazy ideas people have here on software debounce, it’s clear that there are plenty of coders who will screw it up and then waste time trying to fix it. Best then to do hardware and not have to worry about it, unless you have a lot of buttons and/or have plenty of processor idle time.-Taylor", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196545", "author": "Brooks", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T01:27:42", "content": "So … okay, I’ve never debounced a button. But I’m seeing a lot of people talking about solutions, without actually defining the problem, and I think I’m seeing a lot of people making incompatible assumptions about what exactly the problem is.Before you make a claim about what the right way to debounce a switch is, you need to know: (1) How long the bounce event lasts, (2) How much delay between button-press and software-response you can tolerate, and (3) What’s the minimum length of button-press-and-release cycle (or release-and-press cycle) you need to capture.For instance, if a bounce lasts 10ms, and you only care about a 50ms response time and don’t care if you miss press-and-releases shorter than 50ms, then debouncing is trivial — just sample every 25ms. If you sample in the middle of a bounce, it’ll either match the signal before the press or the signal after, and the worst case is it matches the one before and so you don’t pick up on the keypress until the next sample — which is still within the 50ms window.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196546", "author": "Roly", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T01:41:12", "content": "This is a very good new (and overdue?) direction for HaD, and this “simple” problem has already opened a really large and interesting can of worms. You name the task and some programmer will think of (n+1)’th way of doing it.But the code imperialism!?!?. “Must be in C”, even if already in assembler? First up, it’s good for the soul to follow coding in something you don’t know; secondly, apart from giving assembler for a stated chip, what is more generalised than pseudo-code or a Warnier/Orr diagram? As someone who has written major projects in 27 different languages (not including any dialect of C), I say man up and grow a pair.I think you should offer a prize for the first working debounce routine submitted in Lisp. :))", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196550", "author": "Charles Bailey", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T01:55:48", "content": "There ARE other languages besides C.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196551", "author": "Ned", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T01:58:07", "content": "I have a sweet bit of button code i wrote that will read 4 buttons (can be expanded on easily) and will let you know when a button is pressed, held or released. The ‘held’ flag will re-set itself every 100ms (can set that to be anything) and that 100ms will decrease the longer you hold the button.It’s pretty cool and works really well. Also recuires nothing more then a tick timer to run in your interrupt to keep time and the button code can be called as often or as fast as you want and even be irregular.I wrote it for work so i’m not sure if i can post this code here or not and my boss is away for the week but i’ll ask him and if i can i will post it up for you lot to have a look at it.It’s very large code btw, its about 1K of flash (and very little RAM) but i have loads of flash and i needed the functionality of this code for my project.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196561", "author": "natrix", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T03:02:35", "content": "This is a really good article. I wrote my own debounce code in C from scratch a few years ago based on looking at the bounce behavior on a scope just like the guy in the article did. Since my code was designed for a specific switch a value of around 25ms worked great. I tested the code by incrementing a value on a simple LCD, seemed to work great.Hardware is a little more fool-proof if designed correctly, but sometimes you just don’t have the space on a board for low-pass filtering on every button.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196575", "author": "neimad", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T03:21:55", "content": "my approach to debounce has changed over the years.lately I use a simple method in assembly which goes something like this:1. Test switches, comparing them to the last known state.2. If any switch doesn’t match the last state stored in the ‘last_state’ variable (see step 5), then set ‘test_switches’ flag to test again later.3. Do some stuff. (execute some subroutines that won’t take forever to run). A delay loop can be substituted, but why not do something useful while waiting for the debounce.4. If the ‘test_switches’ flag is set, then retest the switches. If any of them don’t match ‘last_state’, then execute the function associated with the specific switch state.5. Store the new switch values in last_state variable.If no switches have changed, then only a few cycles will be used on the switch debounce code. The point is to minimize the code needed as well as not have to resort to using timers or delay loops. A timer is a valuable resource which shouldn’t be wasted on switch debounce, and delay loops are wasteful.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196588", "author": "bus dr1v3r", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T04:12:44", "content": "At first I didn’t know what debounce meant, then I realized it was just different terminologies, or at least I think. I have always referred to this as buffered input. I handle it with a button state and previous state, or a byte with a bitmask can hand four button states and previous states with a simple bitcheck.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196595", "author": "Brad", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T04:37:30", "content": "RC on digital inputs isn’t a great solution to all those that advocate it. As the button is pressed, ignoring any bouncing, the cap charges causing a slowing down of the rise time on the digital input. This can lead to a metastable state, with the digital input state of the pin switching between 0 and 1 unpredictably.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196604", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T05:00:43", "content": "I don’t mind people thinking up clever code, but I do agree with those saying it should be done in hardware, it’s dirtcheap and very simple and avoids a lot of hassle and possible errors.Incidentally don’t they sell switches with inbuilt debounce circuitry? If they don’t that really surprises me I have to say.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196605", "author": "Anon", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T05:01:33", "content": "My debounce code: Sample the input, and wait 50-100 mSec.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196642", "author": "martin", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T06:59:03", "content": "One that works like a marvel and doesn’t burn processing time with timers or delays. Just poll with something between 10 and 100 Hz or use an interrupt. (written in pseudo code, adapt for your system)int button_push_handled;int push;If ( button_pushed ) {if ( button_push_handled == 0 )push = 1;button_push_handled = 1;}else {button_push_handled = 0;push = 0;}", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196644", "author": "martin", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T07:04:46", "content": "//added some extra parentheses for clarity. Space indents doen’t seem to work in the comments.int button_push_handled;int push;If ( button_pushed ) {if ( button_push_handled == 0 ) {push = 1;}button_push_handled = 1;}else {button_push_handled = 0;push = 0;}", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196673", "author": "cde", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T08:23:29", "content": "@Superfungus and @Taylor Once the interrupt has been triggered, it won’t trigger again until you have cleared the interrupt flag, and enable it again. Atleast with the msp430s I am working with. So interrupt signals button press, do whatever, and at a reasonable time, reenable the interrupt. Sure, it doesn’t work for situations where you want multiple presses in a short period, but for simple cases, its the easiest way.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196676", "author": "smoker_dave", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T08:31:04", "content": "So simple, I tested this on many projects.Basically read the switch state, have a short delay (milliseconds) then check if switch is still pressed.The delay period will be different for every type of switch. Simply try different values with your device untill the switch action feels correct.I have used this same code with a multiplexed door lock keypad and also a simple joystick interface. The result is a natural feeling switch action with no bounce.Good luck.// *************************************************//int GetSwitchState(void){int switchState = 0;IF (PinIsHigh()){DelayMs(100);If (PinIsHigh()){switchState = 1;}}return switchState;}// *************************************************//", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196683", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T08:47:47", "content": "This is an excellent example of HAD shining a bit.I don’t even get involved in switch debounce, but it’s something I’ve heard about in the past.Reading the article and comments has been enlightening and made me read up a little more on the subject.Consider me a little enlightened on the subject.Thank you all! :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196699", "author": "Garbz", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T09:31:19", "content": "@bigmechpilot@macegr and@anyone else who thinks that every application is precious.The reality is for many applications processing power is not at all even remotely precious. If you have a precious timing sensitive application which can’t handle the processor not talking to it for 20ms then yes maybe you should implement a hardware solution, or maybe just run that time sensitive aspect of an interrupt service routine with a higher priority than your debounce option.The fact is that at the interrupt simply disabling that interrupt and then locking the processor in a loop for 20ms before re-enabling that interrupt is not only perfectly valid for a very large number of applications, but it is also possibly the shortest (inefficient yes) possible way of writing debouncing code and makes use of no additional fancy timers or polling which may very well be needed for other parts of your program.Regardless of the people who insist that it’s “wrong” it works incredibly well in most applications that would be considered by your typical HAD audience and takes 3 lines of code.cli();delay_ms(30);sei();– Garbz", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196723", "author": "xorpunk", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T10:53:20", "content": "I’d just use a timer in as little code/ram as possible.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,357.199922
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/13/lego-automatic-transmissions/
LEGO Automatic Transmissions
Mike Szczys
[ "Toy Hacks" ]
[ "automatic", "flywheel", "lego", "transmission", "treadmill" ]
[AviatorBJP] is building some impressive automatic transmissions using LEGO parts. Your best bet is to check out his YouTube channel as he’s got a slew of videos related to topic. We’ve embedded test footage of first and second generation vehicles as well as the most recent flywheel design after the break. But we’re getting ahead of ourselves, let’s look at how the system works. Each transmission centers on a mechanism that includes hinged arms attached to a central axle. The arms are held together with a rubber band but as the axle spins faster, they overcome the elastic force of the band and begin to pivot outward. This pulls the shaft in one direction, moving its gear up to the next position in the transmission box. To test the system [AviatorBJP] uses a treadmill. A string is attached to the front of the vehicle to keep it in place and the treadmill is switched on to simulate engine power. This design is quite brilliant, and he’s not keeping it to himself. If you’ve grown tired of the manual LEGO transmission you built, you can follow his multi-video build process to make one of these for yourself. 1st Generation [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1G2SylEllg] 2nd Generation [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2k9dtpiars] Newest flywheel design [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMCXfSR3K1Y] [Thanks Derp via Break ]
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[ { "comment_id": "196404", "author": "Mad", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T18:33:13", "content": "this is just so ingenious !hats off guys !!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196411", "author": "Alwar", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T18:56:05", "content": "AWESOME!i want a lego!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196422", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T19:09:31", "content": "finally! i was getting tired of the shifter in my lego car XDjust kidding … this is some serious ingenuity and major props to the creator", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196424", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T19:21:23", "content": "@biozz This is your lego car?http://hackaday.com/2010/04/08/lego-gearbox-seven-speed-plus-reverse/(actually, this reminded me of that article)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196426", "author": "Jonathan Lackman", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T19:23:43", "content": "crazy. reminds me of the old snowmobile flywheel clutch design", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196428", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T19:33:38", "content": "@Erik Johnsonhaha i wish", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196439", "author": "Richardf", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T20:16:21", "content": "One of my favorite things to do with Lego is build transmissions. Awesome find, can’t wait to try it!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196513", "author": "Mankysteve", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T23:42:44", "content": "It’s working on similar principle to those old regulators on steam engines.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196570", "author": "Roberto", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T03:09:45", "content": "The inventiveness is bow-worthy, but don’t electric vehicles already have high torques at low RPMs?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196636", "author": "pRoFlT", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T06:52:09", "content": "@Roberto, Yah but this is an automatic transmission. With a transmission you can achieve greater speed! With the advantage of electric torque.This needs to be remote control, so we can see the speed on the street!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196639", "author": "pRoFlT", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T06:53:52", "content": "p.s. whats up with the wheel in the back? Is that using momentum to keep the gears moving during gear changes?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196681", "author": "leafy", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T08:44:45", "content": "@mankysteve, I think you’re thinking of a guvernor@roberto, I think that only applies to certain electric motors, certainly not brushed DC permanent magnet motors, they typically have awful low speed torque.@profit, I think that’s just to display the output from the transmission.I love this, its a great use for lego and a neat system, now he just needs to incorporate a synchromesh system ;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,356.830899
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/13/paging-system-for-your-tv-remote/
Paging System For Your TV Remote
Mike Szczys
[ "Peripherals Hacks" ]
[ "base", "beep", "locate", "pager", "remote", "telephone", "television", "tv" ]
[Matt] brought together a TV remote and cordless phone to add a locator system to the remote control . One of the best features of a cordless phone is the pager button on the base. When you press it the handset beeps until found. Matt gutted one and got rid of the unnecessary parts. He then cracked open his TV remote housing and inserted the telephone handset’s circuit board, speaker, and battery. The base station is used just like normal to locate the phone/remote combo, and has been modified with a charging cable to top-off the telephone battery which powers everything in the newly hacked unit. [Matt’s] demonstration video is embedded after the break. It’s too bad that he got rid of the microphone. It would be interesting to take calls on this thing. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xb57M-KpII]
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[ { "comment_id": "196351", "author": "bluewraith", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T16:12:08", "content": "Would have been nicer if he had used the original contacts for charging, instead of of the plug in wire.A small NC switch could power cycle the remote in order to silence the pager.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196365", "author": "Troll_Dragon", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T16:58:30", "content": "Dollar store key locator… smaller and you just need to whistle :)You know how to whistle don’t you?Good hack none the less.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196366", "author": "Chad", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T16:58:40", "content": "Combining the charging would’ve been the way to go. Combining both devices completely would be even better. “Hold on a sec, I’ve gotta flip over to Glee.”How difficult would it be to craft a single board from both the remote and the phone? Using the phone cradle to charge a remote/phone would just be nice.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196385", "author": "Spork", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T17:53:53", "content": "My bet is that the remote didn’t lend it self the opportunity to use the phone’s base. (i.e. it wasn’t the right size)Phone in remote-> interesting idea.Remote in phone-> terrible idea.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196387", "author": "mick", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T17:56:27", "content": "iv been doing this for years. but i didint use a coardless phone (overkill anyone?) i had a key pager that beeps by the press of a button on the base station (you can have upto 6 pagers too) and it runs off of 3v coin cell so i didint even need to make a charging circuit, just wire it upto the original battery connectors of the remote", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196389", "author": "nizon", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T18:03:01", "content": "Keep the phone functions :D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196407", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T18:41:49", "content": "@SporkI don’t think “Phone in remote” is an interesting idea because the odds you will have a cell phone in your pocket or immediately nearby are extremely high. I don’t see the advantage. But then again, I haven’t had a landline phone in years.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196431", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T19:41:37", "content": "my mom bought me these little key chain beeper things … it came in a pack of 6 i put one on my remote once on my keys and one in my wallet and when you press a button on the base station the one that you press beepsproblem was it used a high pitch peso so it was hard to tell the difference between the beep and an echo", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196458", "author": "Dr. Tongue", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T21:00:02", "content": "Perhaps someone could mod an iPhone/Android with an infrared transmitter? It would be hard to make it look decent, but it could be nice to use your phone as a backup remote.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "1254332", "author": "Holly M Landry", "timestamp": "2014-03-11T20:44:10", "content": "Dr. Tongue, you’ll be happy to know there are multiple apps for that, now.", "parent_id": "196458", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "196496", "author": "Bodie", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T22:55:01", "content": "The first TV my wife and I bought togerther (circa 1995) was a Zenith that had that feature built into the remote. There was a “Locate Remote” button on the TV. It helped us on more than a few occasions.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196553", "author": "MB", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T02:03:16", "content": "palm phones with infrared have tv remote sofware just donwnload it and you have a remote in your phone which is always in your pocket", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196555", "author": "bluewraith", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T02:32:44", "content": "@Dr. TongueThey already have existing add-ons for the iPhone that do just that. Unfortunately, since it mounts to the bottom of phone in the charge/data port, you have to hold the phone backwards to use it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196669", "author": "Th3_uN1Qu3", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T07:52:38", "content": "@ MB: There is also irRemote for Symbian phones. I used it to control my VCR and a CD player which i could never find remotes for.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196768", "author": "Gilbert Wham", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T12:30:16", "content": "I just tie mine to the leg of the coffee-table with string.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196848", "author": "NekoHunter", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T14:56:22", "content": "@Dr. TongueI remember using remote control software some time ago on Palm and Windows Mobile phones. Considering that the IR comms port went the way of the dinosaur in favor of Bluetooth, maybe a Bluetooth-IR adapter would be the way to go for such a project.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,356.718619
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/13/diy-print-head-experiments/
DIY Print Head Experiments
Caleb Kraft
[ "Peripherals Hacks" ]
[ "inkjet", "piezo", "print", "reprap" ]
Inkjet printheads are a pretty rare thing to see done in home workshops. We would love to see more and got really excited when we saw this single nozzle, drop on demand, head being built . using a piezo disk intended to be a cheap buzzer and some reprap magic, [Johnrpm] got some results. [Madscifi] has been refining the design of the nozzle and the two have shared the process with us. Since it drops a single droplet of liquid, it can be used in a variety of manners, such as dropping plain old boring ink, or dropping a solvent into a powder for some 3d printing. You can see an example of the 3d printing in sugar above. [via Makezine ]
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[ { "comment_id": "196337", "author": "nave.notnilc", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T15:26:50", "content": "cool, but it is extremely easy to get inkjet heads (i.e. empty print cartridges) for trivial amounts of money that you can refill as desired, and you can even get second-hand whole printers for trivial amounts. I’ve bought several for experiments and didn’t pay more than a few bucks each.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196437", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T20:14:33", "content": "Sugar? right…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196505", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T23:25:39", "content": "yeah reminds me of the 80’s too…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196598", "author": "loren", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T04:46:36", "content": "I think one would get real high", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197462", "author": "t&p", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T18:31:47", "content": "@Erik Johnsonyou got no proof*eyeballs room back and forth frantically*", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,357.245925
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/11/embedded-rfid-for-online-passwords/
Embedded RFID For Online Passwords
Mike Szczys
[ "Security Hacks" ]
[ "aac keys", "implant", "login", "password", "rfid", "windows 7" ]
[Jair2K4] is using his unique RFID tag address as an online password . We’d bet that if you went far enough to get an implant in your hand you’d continually search for a reason to use it. Wanting to do more than just start his car with a wave of the hand , he built an interface module out of an Arduino and a Parallax RFID reader. Using a program called AAC Keys on Windows 7 he emulates a keyboard using the input from the Arduino. When it comes time to login he types his username and parks the cursor in the password box. By holding the RFID implant next the reader, the ID is dumped as the password, along with a newline (might be a carriage return, we’re not certain) character which submits the login. Take a look for yourself after the break. On the one hand, nobody will be able to steal his tag as easily as they could steal one that is on a key ring. But we know RFID is rather notorious for a false sense of security. As long as you’re not using it for state secrets we think it’s a nice solution. Update: After reading the comments on this feature, [Jair2K4] made some changes to his code. It now reads the tag and verifies it with stored data, then spits out whatever password you wish (making it easy to change passwords from time-to-time). He also added servo control to the sketch. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6FRRaWo60w#t=0m32s]
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[ { "comment_id": "195313", "author": "Taylor Alexander", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T20:04:21", "content": "Yeah, this is a cool way to more easily enter your password, but it’s still just a text password, and anyone that figures it out can login without the RFID tag (just type it in normally). Its not the same as a real hardware key, since it just enters text.But neat.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195314", "author": "Dan", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T20:04:25", "content": "When a software keylogger steals your RFID key as it sends it as keystrokes, it’ll be quite a pain taking it out of your skin to reset. It also violates the principle of “never use the same password twice.”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195322", "author": "Josh", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T20:20:24", "content": "I did the same thing about 6 months ago with my usb rfid reader and a keyboard wedge emulator program because im planning to get an rfid implant one of these days. Same result, no microcontroller. Sure didnt think it was worthy of hackaday though or i’d have submitted it myself.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195328", "author": "24601", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T20:31:18", "content": "If you got the rfid implant in your wrist, could a somewhat-fashionable metal bracelet over it protect it, like the special passport wallets?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195329", "author": "Matt", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T20:34:19", "content": "Couldn’t someone just hide a RFID scanner in something like a desk, use it to retrieve his tag address and then either try the tag address as password on different sites (i.e. Guild Wars, RFIDtoys forums) or just spoof the tag to steal his car? I think, he should at least come up with some random algorithm to calculate a different password from stuff like ID, username, pagename, and so on. That way it would at least be a little more secure (different passwords on different sites, password is not simply the ID). As well it might be safer to write this as a firefox plugin. Then could be inserted into the POST/GET data instead of being converted into keypresses. This should make it a little harder for other software to intercept it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195330", "author": "Timmah", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T20:41:03", "content": "he did it on windows, cool. So after the next 0-day exploit, or one visit to an infected site, his OS will be trashed!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195339", "author": "Haku", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T21:08:52", "content": "interesting idea, I suppose you could do the same with a modified CueCat,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CueCat– grab some random barcodes and use them for your online passwords, or print out your own custom barcodes using a barcode font for a more definable password.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195352", "author": "tim", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T21:13:15", "content": "for those who wants to implant RFID tags, think twice.This is going to evolve with higher capacity longer range higher security…So be prepared to change it often, or you will soon look like having a floppy disc in your finger when others use 64GB usb keys.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195360", "author": "jair2k4", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T21:21:57", "content": "Always love it when I make hack a day :)@matt. Great suggestion. They should have added that I did this as a demo. I will be modifying my sketch to serial print in a password when it reads my tag so that when I scan in, the tag only makes it as far as my arduino. The output can be whatever. That should cover me.@24601: two words: chainmail glove. It would act as a Faraday cage. I don’t think we can bring back the single glove look. Only MJ can do that.@ anyone who is thinking ‘mark of the beast’…. No. Just no.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195365", "author": "Timmah", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T21:36:49", "content": "what you need is an interactive ZKT (zero-knowledge table) type of password query. This is one form of security used on satellite smart cards. This way, you can’t be a MIM and just copy the value , like you could with this hack. I don’t know all the details of the ZKT, look it up on wikipedia, but basically you can do RSA-like authentication and prove you know the password without revealing your password directly.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195375", "author": "NatureTM", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T22:07:23", "content": "I’ve seen fingerprint reader and face recognition hardware with software that will log you into windows and enter your passwords on websites for you. They don’t work by acting like keyboards, which seems to be how all these rfid auth hacks work. I was wondering if there’s a library or free software out there to get something like that working. I looked a bit without any luck. Anyone?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195389", "author": "Concino", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T22:44:50", "content": "I am sorry but this is a pointless hack. This is nothing more than preferring convenience over security. You can easily follow the same concept with either using a mindless password like “password” or utilizing the well known sticky notes.If this was two factor authentication system that required an RFID tag and a password, it would’ve been cool, otherwise why not just go buy yourself a fingerprint reader and use that for logging in, that way at least you don’t have to get an RFID chip implanted.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195414", "author": "CcC", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T23:40:51", "content": "Ungly monkey logging into his guild wars account with his h4x0r3d device.I always thought people like this plays that crappy game. Thats even more ridiculous playing it on that small 13″ eePC :DAh and music also 0/10.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195429", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T00:17:31", "content": "I foresee the next mouse mod on here to be a hidden RFID scanner inside the mouse to read such chips.But for convenience an RFID logger could probably just be placed under the desk under the keyboard to ensure hand/wrist interaction. It would probably just feel like tape stuck to the underside as the antennas can be embedded in paper and the logger module elsewhere out of reach under there…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195448", "author": "Jair2k4", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T00:34:41", "content": "@Erik: Mmmm. i like that idea. The only problem is that if you used your mouse with the same hand you had chipped, it would constantly be sending code and carriage returns over and over. Since i’m chipped in my left hand and i use my mouse with my right… that sounds like a nifty idea… I’m going to think on that.As for the keyboard, Amal Graafstra of RFID toys has already done that.@Concino: You are missing the point. I got chipped for my own reasons. This is just a little project i was working on and decided to share my results. It’s not a polished product… just something in the works.@anyone wanting to post garbage: Why is it that people always have to immediately jump to the negative when they post? How about something like, “wow, that’s different! Yay you for being creative!”Take it for what it is, an informative website showcasing something someone else has done. If you have a helpful or constructive suggestion, like the other commenters on here, then by all means, let us know! But don’t waste anyone’s time just to say ‘Durr, that’s stupid.’", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195487", "author": "Akoi Meexx", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T02:02:30", "content": "@jair2k4 Because, even though their input is completely worthless, they’re still entitled to their opinion. Stuff like this helps when determining whether or not a product would be readily accepted for a particular demographic;say, 16 year old angst-ridden teenagers. ;)Frankly I don’t see the current worth of this demo other than convenience (as stated), or getting ‘chipped’. Introducing unnecessary technology into my body that would rapidly become obsolete? Why bother. Still, handy for rapid access of secured information, even if you risk MIM attacks. Just know your login environment.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195546", "author": "Jair2k4", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T03:07:22", "content": "Akoi, I agree completely. I know the risks involved. The thing is.. where I live… there’s almost zero chance of anyone having a clue what the tech is or what it can do. As for the technology itself becoming obsolete… That’s something i considered. The readers themselves.. especially the one i used for my ignition system will work for all kinds of applications. I will be able to interface them with all sorts of hardware for years (if not decades) to come. All to suit my own needs of course.My only concern was the availability of the hardware… which is why i stocked up.Now… concerning angsty teenagers… well.. if we can convince them to chip themselves instead of turning to more damaging methods of bodily modification, then some day they may actually want to learn about the objects residing in their bodies. Which may just make productive members of society out of them somehow.. lawl.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195554", "author": "MB", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T03:27:55", "content": "“Introducing unnecessary technology into my body that would rapidly become obsolete? Why bother”i completely agree with that statement, for my RFID tag i will wait until the government makes it mandatory. If i can buy,drive and get other services without it i wont get one implanted", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195564", "author": "fluidic", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T04:03:57", "content": "As long as we’re blowing off security, why don’t you just build the tag into a phycon? Then the computer could authenticate you based on whether or not your My Little Pony is on the desk or across the room.(Incidentally, this makes good *secondary* security if you’re subtle about it!)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195578", "author": "ElTerrible", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T04:47:55", "content": "@MBThe Government doesn’t need an RFID to know you’re in your Mom’s basement.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195586", "author": "t&p", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T05:15:31", "content": ">we know RFID is rather notorious for a false sense of securityI was thinking about this. I want to go in the what if world.What if there was a way for the tag to passively check a signal before it transmits its data. That way no one would know you had an rfid tag unless they know the right “password” to activate it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195592", "author": "Gdogg", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T05:34:06", "content": "So type in username name, click/tab to password box, and scan. That seems like more work than just typing, since your hands don’t have to leave the cardboard.Cool idea, cool implementation, but impractical and I’d argue is worsens the security of the computer:1- Someone can copy and spoof the RFID. Once RFID is powered its signal can be read from a lot farther than the power up distance2- It means the RFID signal/number whatever is basically the password for your password vault (unless you’re actually using one password across everything, that would be even worse). This means somewhere on your computer you have a list of all your passwords stored.So instead of different passwords for different websites, you’ve got one ‘code’ that can unlock all your private online data (and your car)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195625", "author": "24601", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T06:21:15", "content": "@Jair2k4 re: chainmaille glove… interesting idea, considering I’m a mailler :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195627", "author": "24601", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T06:22:55", "content": "@GdoggUse something like the MasterPass addon for firefox, it takes a master password (rfid code) and hashes it with the site the password is to be used on to create a unique password for each different site.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195786", "author": "grenadier", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T11:35:02", "content": "Aren’t those implants glass? So a sufficient shock to the hand would crack it? Don’t get in any barfights", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195890", "author": "Gdogg", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:45:25", "content": "@24601 That’s cool, def more secure, but that’s still using a master password that is beamed unencrypted every time it’s used.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196104", "author": "Josh", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T07:08:12", "content": "@tim Regardless of how sensitive or powerful your reader is, the tag is only going to transmit so much power. You would not be able to read it from more than 3 inches away at max.@grenadier The force it would take to smash a glass capsule that small delivered to your hand, and the minute pieces of glass in your hand would be the least of your worries.Using windows yes it could be hacked, with hidden rfid readers, yes it could be sniffed. If someone is going to go through all the trouble of stealing an rfid tag ID, cloning it, and using it to break into something, you would think they would want something worth stealing. Windows can be cracked in seconds without its password, and i seriously doubt anyone wants his netbook or his email account. When i was working on my rfid reader, i could only find wedge programs for windows and i know nothing of programming so that was the end of its usefulness. However, if his shows as a generic HID, then it could theoretically be used on any device that supports a keyboard. If the government wanted to know where you were, they would know, regardless of whether you had an rfid implant.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196146", "author": "Bacchus", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T08:51:57", "content": "What does this achieve?Three factor security requires something you know, something you have, and something you are. Non of these require an implanted chip and, since RFID hacks are commonplace, you have to balance the convenience of just waving your hand against the inconvenience of periodically having your chip dug out of your body because it is either compromised or obsolete.Also, you would be wise to ponder on this:http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/31/the-downside-to-using-a-biometric-car-lock/It tells of a lucky man who owned a Mercedes CLK with a fingerprint scanner. The car couldn’t be started without the owners fingerprint, so the thieves who stole it chopped off his finger. Make mine key-operated, thanks.How far up your arm is your RFID chip implanted? I hope it isn’t near your shoulder…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196152", "author": "Josh", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T09:10:24", "content": "Well i have 2 easy arguments for you Bacchus. 1. my implant chip is reprogrammable, i can handle it being obsolete because that makes it harder to duplicate, albeit more expensive for me. 2. If the rfid chip under your skin is the ONLY means of unlocking your door/computer/whatever, you are a freakin idiot.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196159", "author": "Bacchus", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T09:40:54", "content": "Reasonable points.Would you always have a backup system with you? If you do, then what’s the point of the chip? Are violent criminals open to reason when they’re committing a crime?Consider bank security. Modern safes and similar are pretty much impossible to compromise within a reasonable time frame. This has put bank staff and their families at risk from the kind of people who’re prepared to use brutal methods of persuasion. A trick that’s been used several times in the UK is to simply douse someone in petrol (UKese for gasoline) and hold a cigarette lighter near them. Apparently most people find this “argument” compelling.OK, you plainly aren’t talking about securing anything valuable with this technique, which begs the question of why anyone might go to these lengths in the first place. In short, it’s the old principle of always carrying “mugger money.” Property can be replaced – Body parts and lives cannot.Are you really sure you haven’t created a solution that will just exacerbate the problem, however cool it may at first seem?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196349", "author": "Josh", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T16:02:52", "content": "Quite a valid argument, i indeed do not always carry a backup system. However in the case of my car, i would have an external keypad that functions the same as the chip. I agree with you in that security both helps and hurts, and theres really no good way around that. I would assume that one would take these factors into account when making a modification of this sort though. If not, thats not good…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "560153", "author": "tom", "timestamp": "2012-01-16T09:24:59", "content": "IF you use the rfid’s available for pets… they’re passive and only readable up to one foot, typically a couple of centimeters. Very unlikely to be found. And IF it were implanted in the wrist, a bracelet could easily be worn to prevent transmitting. RFID chips with encryption are available too, but I doubt implant size.IF the rfid reader was attached to a wireless usb hub and hidden in the wall(away from the comp), nobody would know what the wireless usb dongle was used for or that rfid is the method of access if they were to find the chip.IF the rfid was used for full-disk-encryption, one could implement a very strong 64 character password(+1 security +1 accessibility). And IF there was a way to disable the keyboard(perhaps port control with no usb driver support for keyboards), while still allowing password input from the chip(+1 security). Granted the chip could fail or break, leaving you without access.IF the chip were reprogramable, one could change the password periodically and use it for multiple applications, also eliminating the need for upgrades.“Installation” is fairly painless, although I think removal would be kinda painful.A lot of IF’s, obviously it would be best just to remember a 64 character password. It all depends on how secret agent you want to get.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "594509", "author": "deepthi", "timestamp": "2012-03-04T07:07:01", "content": "how to know the default password of rfid", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,357.315758
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/11/nes-controller-gets-a-rumble-pak/
NES Controller Gets A Rumble Pak
Mike Szczys
[ "Nintendo Hacks" ]
[ "and", "controller", "nes", "rumble pak", "vibrate" ]
Add some feedback to an original NES controller by making it vibrate. This feature is often known as Rumble Pak , a controller add-on for the Nintendo 64 which vibrated as a game feature. This version adds a small DC motor (in the upper right) with a screw soldered off-center to the motor shaft. [Andy Goetz] and his friend built this as a robot controller, taking advantage of the latch and clock pins. Normally, nothing happens while both pins are held high, a signal that they easily patched into using an AND gate. This is actually a neat find, as the addition of an internal microcontroller could add bi-directional communication when the latch is high and the clock is strobed.
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[ { "comment_id": "195297", "author": "Craig", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T19:31:08", "content": "You KNOW it belongs on Hack-a-day when you see a quad-AND chip with its pins splayed flat, at an angle, and lead wires soldered straight to the pins!I assume they’re using the LED as a traditional diode in this case?Forrest M. Mims would be proud!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195312", "author": "ssh", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T20:04:21", "content": "@Craig i see nothing wrong with this statement", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195323", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T20:22:36", "content": "Heck, I’m impressed with the screw soldered to the motor!The whole thing rocks.(Yeah I noticed the splayed legs on that IC too.)‘sall good", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195333", "author": "zool", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T20:47:20", "content": "can’t read values from the controller when it’s rumbling,…failhow does it know when to rumble anyway", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195358", "author": "Lib", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T21:20:39", "content": "I agree with zool. What signals from the software does the controller read as a request to “rumble”?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195371", "author": "xyz", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T21:56:14", "content": "Is it really that hard to follow the link and see if it provides further explanation?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195372", "author": "Andy goetz", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T21:58:51", "content": "@lib:This project was originally for a simple bump bot. The control SW would toggle back and forth between poll button positions and vibration the motor.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195387", "author": "Amos", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T22:37:59", "content": "Just replace the cable to get an extra wire and use it to feed a serial->parallel shift register (or the aforementioned uC) hooked to the same latch/clock/Vcc lines. Ta-da! full-duplex serial comms.It’s how the “link” port in a Game Boy works.But this rumble thing is simple and effective, like all great hacks :D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195394", "author": "zool", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T22:53:31", "content": "@xyz at first i skimmed the page on how it works, there’s no mention of how they get it to rumble from what’s happening in the gamei read the page again and realized it’s not for playing a game at all but for controlling their robotit’s a deceptive thing to make a NES controller rumblepack hack and not even have it rumble when you’re playing an NES gamemaybe should have added ‘robot controller’ in the title", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195411", "author": "Scott", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T23:38:16", "content": "I think the confusion is about what this is for – it appears this has little to do with NES games. This is a hack *only* for the controller. It will never “rumble” while playing a game. (correct me if I’m wrong.) It will only rumble when plugged into a DIY device which tells it to rumble. The hack was the fact that they got a rumbler to fit in the NES controller. To be honest, I don’t think there’s any game-related functionality to this yet. It’s totally hacker spirit though – dirty, haphazard, yet functional. Very cool.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195451", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T00:43:54", "content": "@Craig –Forrest Mims! Dude has a smoking hot daughter! Well, maybe not smoking hot, but she has done real science ON the topic of hot smoke…He’s the guy who launched a hundred thousand careers over 40 years. He’s big on Intelligent Design, btw.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195608", "author": "cde", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T06:10:12", "content": "@ Zool, it does say it in the article blurb.//[Andy Goetz] and his friend built this as arobot controller//", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195610", "author": "roshamboe", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T06:11:05", "content": "What if they just customize a game to make it sense the necessary times to rumble?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195794", "author": "Fallen", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T12:21:19", "content": "Agreed, the title should mention robots.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195980", "author": "HackJack", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T00:08:20", "content": "Why not just use a controller that rumbles. Like a PS2 joypad?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "2834406", "author": "rcarticledirectory.com", "timestamp": "2015-12-12T08:54:28", "content": "Um not gross.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,357.365249
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/11/bicycle-hub-hydropower/
Bicycle Hub Hydropower
Mike Szczys
[ "green hacks" ]
[ "fountain", "generator", "hub", "hydropower", "shimano" ]
[Niklas Roy] wanted to create electricity from moving water so he came up with this hyrdopower generator . It is part of his grand scheme to rent out small personal fountains made from buckets. They need electricity to run so he hooked up the generator to the water jet of a public fountain. It should be possible to use this setup with falling water in a similar way that other generators do. To build the device he cut fins out of PVC pipe to use as the scoops. They are attached to a Shimano hub generator, meant for producing power while you pedal. The hub is mounted in the front for from a bicycle, which can then be mounted anywhere moving water is available. The only thing that worries us about the setup is [Niklas’] comment that being showered with water didn’t destroy the hub right away. See the hub and the smaller fountains in the clip after the break. [vimeo=http://vimeo.com/15385716]
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[ { "comment_id": "195223", "author": "fartface", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T17:19:57", "content": "Useful for stealing power from public fountains only.a creek or river will not power this thing as the water is moving too slowly. there are far better designs out there for getting real power instead of being a power parasite.I guess if you found a waterfall this would work.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195267", "author": "corncob", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T18:12:36", "content": "front FORK from a bicycle I would assume rather than a “front for”.Make sense it does not.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195268", "author": "KeyboardFan", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T18:15:37", "content": "Can anyone explain why you would even want these little fountains?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195269", "author": "anywho", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T18:16:18", "content": "@fartfaceStealing? Really?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195271", "author": "vonskippy", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T18:24:29", "content": "2.5 minutes of video to show maybe 5 seconds of the actual “mini fountain”.//and people call me a krazy kraut//", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195275", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T18:46:34", "content": "Goofy, not practical, but still interesting.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195281", "author": "rob", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T18:51:13", "content": "I have three bikes with shimano generator hubs on them (one of them has them front and rear). They produce enough power at a walking pace to light up the 2.4W headlight.If you wanted to use them on a waterwheel in a creek or river, you could just adjust the length of the paddles(longer or shorter as necessary) to compensate for the speed (or lack thereof) of the current.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195285", "author": "JD", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T19:02:32", "content": "@anywhoCouldn’t it be considered stealing since it is being powered by public funds, and he is using it for his own personal gain? Of course, other people refer to these people as “politicians”, and no one thinks twice about them.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195320", "author": "Dave", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T20:17:26", "content": "2.4. watts is hardly going to light up the world. Wonder what sort of practical use this item will be put to.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195324", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T20:23:08", "content": "o snap", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195327", "author": "batchedg", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T20:26:52", "content": "slow current?a ridiculous gear ratio + wider paddles (apply more torque)more power!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195334", "author": "zool", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T20:53:40", "content": "so they just walk up to people and ask if they want to rent their own little fountainwonder how much they chargedthey probably didn’t even make enough money to pay for what they used to build it", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195355", "author": "tim", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T21:18:05", "content": "Brilliant explanation of Energy conversion (in)efficiency", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195364", "author": "asheets", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T21:36:24", "content": "What, there was no VAC powerline anywhere around that you could wrap an inductor around?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195383", "author": "Kris Lee", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T22:27:45", "content": "Ha-ha-haa. This is not stealing. This is performance.When you do it right of course.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195393", "author": "jeditalian.", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T22:52:24", "content": "running water is more reliable than wind. i mean, you don’t always have wind, but if you have a river or waterfall, that water is always going in the same direction, easier to harness. i think i would go with a 12-fin design though. There are shower-heads that generate electricity from the running water to light up colored LEDs. saw them somewhere like DX because they were chinee", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195417", "author": "tre3", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T23:44:33", "content": "@Dave…. A continuous 2.4 watts is more than enough to light a home in a developing country. That’s 60 watt hours a day…. Coupled with the ubiquitous car battery (as is common in a place like E. Africa, parts of SE Asia and others) – you could power a 6W 12V CFL for 10 hours a night… way more than enough…Using LEDs (less common unlike fluorescent bulbs)… a 3W bulb (which puts out about the same amount of lumens as a 6W CFL – according my testing using a 3m integrating sphere) will go for 20 hours :pExtra juice could be used to power radios, charge cell phones, etc. etc. etc.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195425", "author": "David S", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T00:06:57", "content": "Wasn’t there a cool low-flow water generator posted a few weeks ago?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195435", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T00:31:16", "content": "You think this is inefficient?As a kid, I built an air-conditioner using a car radiator and a hose coupling. I put the radiator in my window, hooked the garden hose to one side and a garden hose to the sprinker on the other.I then wired a box fan to the outside, turned it on and let the sprinkler rip. Running back to my room, I was in heaven. Cool air! I fell asleep, and woke up to discover that someone had turned the water off and it was hot again. I discovered that it worked better with the fan on the inside of the window.I used it for about two weeks – putting it in the window when it got hot, then taking it out when my uncle was due home. Then the radiator started to leak because it fell out of the window one time to many – then, as now, my mechanical skills were no match for my imagination.So I started going to the YMCA, mostly because they had A/C. A month later, my uncle got his water bill and went ballistic. I think he managed to explain that it must have been an error, but that was the first time I ever realized that what I did could have consequences.Luckily, puberty didn’t hit me until the following year.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195449", "author": "demod", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T00:39:28", "content": "Umm so it works like this?1. go to a big public fountain.2. cripple big public fountain with hub generator.3. use power from generator to power pissy little fountains.4. profitI must be missing something? Why would I pay for a pissy fountain, when I’ve come to the park to cool down and sit near a MASSIVE fountain?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195450", "author": "Greycode", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T00:43:43", "content": "Hippies, well at least they got a bath out of the affair.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195544", "author": "loueney", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T03:01:57", "content": "@bilbao bobghey story. thanks", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195545", "author": "MB", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T03:06:33", "content": "when i saw the video it seemed like they were joking about charging for the little fountains,but now reading the comments i realize they were serious. People need to think of ways to make money but this is not a good idea.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195574", "author": "Voice of Reason", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T04:37:32", "content": "Some of you desperately need to realize that this is performance, not a technology startup to get rich. For Christ’s sake.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195606", "author": "MS3FGX", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T06:06:15", "content": "What are these hipsters doing on my Hack A Day?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195633", "author": "pRoFlT", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T06:45:59", "content": "hmmm. -1 vote from me.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195694", "author": "Grovenstien", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T08:42:20", "content": "Hmm I wonder how much energy the Big fountain actually uses? A fair amount to pump those jets.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195733", "author": "D_", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T09:21:19", "content": "@tre3 We aren’t supposed to think that way. How a mere few what’s can be a huge life changing occurrence for many in the world.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195791", "author": "Fallen", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T12:15:42", "content": "Wow, that was stupid.The little fountain was barely doing anything.I doubt this is legal anyways…I don’t see how it’s different than tapping into an AC line. It’s stealing. Not to mention it makes the actual fountain ugly.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195803", "author": "cooperised", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T12:52:26", "content": "So… if you’re going to use the public fountain as a power source, why not just run a hose from one of the big jets right into the bucket jets? You could run at least a dozen of those ‘pissy little fountains’ (thx demod) from just one of the big ones. And they’d be less pissy. And less complicated.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195814", "author": "MRE", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T14:14:42", "content": "Personally, I think the guise of “performance” is too often used to mask ass-hattery.Just an opinion.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195827", "author": "JackD", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T15:16:55", "content": "I must be missing something? Why would I pay for a pissy fountain, when I’ve come to the park to cool down and sit near a MASSIVE fountain?I believe the part that is missing is the social commentary. As you’ve noted, they would potentially make money by providing a private service at a cost that is not as good as (and detriments) the public service available in the same place for free. It doesn’t make any sense, and yet in this country, it is held as an ideal almost irregardless of the implementation (even if it’s silly). I take this as a commentary on the societal differences between America and Europe.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195840", "author": "MattC", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T15:50:39", "content": "(from website)• Water spill drives a little water wheel• Almost perpetual motion technologyMakes me laugh.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195845", "author": "DeFex", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T16:06:48", "content": "That poor hub generator is going to be toast. cool water on hub, air inside cools down reducing pressure. water sucked in.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195868", "author": "JPElectron", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T17:25:16", "content": "Why not use this concept for something more consumers would actually want to buy: recharge their laptop or mobile phone!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196049", "author": "Bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T03:53:14", "content": "You know you could take it one step further and charge them to provide electricity in their own homes…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,358.387334
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/11/learning-to-walk-a-tutorial-on-making-bipeds-walk/
Learning To Walk, A Tutorial On Making Bipeds Walk
Caleb Kraft
[ "Robots Hacks" ]
[ "bioloid", "gait", "walk" ]
[Robert Lam] has produced a number of video tutorials, his latest being a tutorial on how to make a biped robot walk . He is mainly covering the individual motions and actions. He doesn’t go into any specific programming, but rather breaks down the act of walking into several motions and discusses the reason you need them as well as some variations. For some this will seem like obvious observations, but we’ve seen plenty of biped robots that attempt to walk without shifting their weight.You can watch this video after the break, but be sure to dig around in some of his other tutorials for plenty of good stuff. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhz6m6fu494]
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[ { "comment_id": "195169", "author": "fluidic", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T15:11:26", "content": "Somehow, I was expecting quite a bit more math and quite a bit less “get the foots even”…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195188", "author": "xeracy", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T15:43:02", "content": "@fluidic – yeah… yeah…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195207", "author": "andrew", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T16:41:06", "content": "I’m surprised more people haven’t been working on dynamic motion using accelerometers or gyros to keep the robot stable.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195217", "author": "yo9gjx", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T17:01:42", "content": "the ideea is to use what you have.Accelerometers, gyros pretty expensive", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195270", "author": "MJN", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T18:17:45", "content": "So he’s using entirely open loop control. This is pretty vanilla stuff that should be common sense for all of us bipeds that know how to walk.Closed loop bipedal control gets more interesting. Take a look at what Boston Dynamics is working onhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67CUudkjEG4Many others are doing similar work in this field. A lot of academia.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195310", "author": "Shai-Hulud", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T19:58:57", "content": "Next make it move like Sumotori dreams?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8KAUoW0Juo", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195362", "author": "tim", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T21:30:21", "content": "By defintion a robot is a closed loop system, if not, it is just an automata.And those who think that 3$ for a mems accel. is high priced will be surprise when they will see the price of the servos", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195470", "author": "mecharobotronic", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T01:13:31", "content": "This is a very good tutorial.Even with accelerometers & gyros, making a biped walk is a challenge. I’m speaking from experience. While math does come in handy, once you start working with bipeds, you’ll find that it is much more organic and hands on that you may have initially imagined.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "4265797", "author": "Jinu Jogy", "timestamp": "2017-12-20T18:57:51", "content": "Can you help me in making my 19 dof bipedLater I want to add gyro and accelerometer", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,357.973178
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/11/creepy-hdd-activity-lights-for-halloween/
Creepy HDD Activity Lights Just In Time For Halloween
Caleb Kraft
[ "computer hacks", "LED Hacks" ]
[ "Case mod", "halloween" ]
We almost skimmed right past this spooky HDD activity light thinking it was just another set of LEDs wired to the motherboard.  However, they explained right off that they didn’t want just another blinking light on their case. They wanted it to change its intensity smoothly based on hard drive activity. While there are a million ways this could have been over engineered, we think they did a pretty good job of simplifying the circuit. The bill of materials is pretty much just a handful of resistors, LEDs, an opto isolator, and a capacitor. The effect, is quite nice and can be seen in the video after the break. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sRWlocb_s8] [via Hacked Gadgets ]
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[ { "comment_id": "195146", "author": "Grovenstien", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T14:17:14", "content": "Arrghhhh the terror of it all! Can I come out from behind my chair yet?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195166", "author": "ioco", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T15:04:00", "content": "You could wire it up to the LED’s in the front case fan.Pretty cool though", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195171", "author": "Bernhard", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T15:13:58", "content": "thats the first time I have seen somebody use the mysterious third contact of the optocoupler-transistor.Why does it actually produce this result?!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195172", "author": "oxid", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T15:18:58", "content": "This mod (not hack) is extremely old. HAD makes me sad.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195186", "author": "Hiski", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T15:38:55", "content": "No offence, but the topic made me laugh, “just in time for halloween”. The article was posted at Metku.net 2nd of October 2004…http://metku.net/index.html?sect=view&path=mods/hdd_eyez/index_eng", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195196", "author": "Maave", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T16:06:14", "content": "Get a Hotwheels car, one with lots of clear plastic (colored plastic is cooler), and drill a small hole into it. Stick a Christmas light inside it and pop it on the tree. It glows a nice color and looks badass.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195215", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T16:57:04", "content": "An opto isolator was NOT needed for this. You don’t need isolation from the HDD activity line when it is only 5V! I understand why they did it – they didn’t want the capacitor to discharge when the HDD activity light went low. A simpler way to do it would be to have the HDD light directly turn on the base of an NPN transistor, which connects the capacitor/LED’s to 5V. Thus while the HDD activity pulse is high the capacitor will charge and the LED’s will light, and when the HDD line goes low the transistor turns off and the voltage on the cap is discharged through the LED’s, giving the same dimming effect. No opto needed.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195216", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T16:59:48", "content": "correnction, NPN wouldn’t work in this case, but you could still do it without an opto", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195218", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T17:07:06", "content": "ugh, I need to stop second guessing myself, I was right the first time:Collector of NPN goes to 5V. Emitter goes to postive on cap and the other end of the cap is connected to ground. Emitter is also connected to the resistors/LEDs, which then go to ground. The only reason you wouldn’t be able to do this is if they didn’t have access to a 5V line, but that should be easily available within a short distance of the HDD activity line.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195255", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T17:57:07", "content": "You don’t even need the transistor – much less the optocouple. Just the LED(s), current resistor(s), the cap for diminishing effect and a diode to prevent the caps from discharging back into the HDD/mobo.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195256", "author": "DarkFader", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T17:58:54", "content": "I think it’s in HAD just because of the skull… Anyway… this is great for internet pirates who are constantly downloading.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195273", "author": "VIPER!", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T18:33:02", "content": "Very cool.I don’t care how OLD it is. I have never seen it before and I would guess that most people looging in here haven’t seen it either. It looks neat and is a cool hardwear mod. Please stop complaining about the content of the blog you subscribe to.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195284", "author": "Japala", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T19:01:43", "content": "I’m glad that people still find this interesting. :)I personally try to use an opto when interfacing hardware like this. I only needed a digital signal transferred to a one circuit to another and wanted to keep them electrically separated. I could then run the end-circuit with the voltages that I wanted.Happy hacking! :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195298", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T19:32:09", "content": "@ErikTotally right, that’s the simplest explanation of all, and way easier to implement. Using an opto is nuts", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195302", "author": "Paul Potter", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T19:40:15", "content": "Very nicely done, and a nice simple little circuit.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195309", "author": "Hiski", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T19:57:38", "content": "@JapalaLove your Metku.net, keep up the good work (MOAR MODS <3 )", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195376", "author": "Rachel", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T22:07:36", "content": "@JapalaI understand you want to isolate your motherboard from the circuit, but an optoisolator is absolutely pointless if you’re using a common ground anyway. If you wanted to connect it to a separate power supply it makes sense, but your setup isn’t actually isolated at all.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195401", "author": "jeditalian.", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T23:12:30", "content": "it looks good. of course i would have just used the pre-existing HDDLED wires and wired up 1 LED and maybe some of that plastic stuff they use to carry the LED light elsewhere, which you can find in: satellite boxes, monitors, old computers.. hot glue might even do the trick. and those skinny rectangle LEDs you can find in places like the ethernet port of a motherboard, or other parts of old computers/monitors/etc. but this guy actually built a little circuit to do the job, whereas i would have taken the quick/lazy route.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195404", "author": "Haku", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T23:19:57", "content": "Am I right in thinking you can salvage optoisolators from old PCI modem cards and broken laptops?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195424", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T00:01:07", "content": "@Haku yep, modems and power supplies especially. Basically anything with both a low voltage and high voltage circuit in the same circuit. They are usually the obvious 4-pin white/tan DIPs, and may even have a silk-screened line going directly underneath the middle of the IC instead of around like everything else (denoting the segregated sections of the board)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195870", "author": "Mr Hacker", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T17:50:59", "content": "this is as old as computers", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195935", "author": "godi", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T21:37:57", "content": "I think this is what Eric meanthttp://imgur.com/bdX6X", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196587", "author": "DanAdamKOF", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T04:12:18", "content": "This is old but I love Metku Mods, so I forgive you.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,357.842342
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/11/oogoo-a-home-made-sugru-substitute/
Oogoo, A Home-made Sugru Substitute
Phil Burgess
[]
[]
https://hackaday.com/wp-…oogoo1.jpg?w=470
If you follow Instructables.com, it might seem like every third article lately is about Sugru, the nifty air-drying silicone putty that’s good for all manner of repairs and custom parts. It’s fantastic stuff (and we love their slogan, “Hack things better”), but one can’t (yet!) just drop in on any local hardware store to buy a quick fix…so [mikey77] has cooked up a recipe for a basic Sugru work-alike . His “Oogoo” (a name likely inspired by oobleck ) is a simple mix of corn starch and silicone caulk. A two-ingredient recipe would hardly seem adequate material for an article, but [mikey77]’s left no stone unturned, providing an extensive tutorial not only on mixing the compound, but how to add colors, cast and carve custom shapes, and how his home-made recipe compares to the name brand product . As a bonus, the article then drifts into a little Halloween project where he demonstrates etching conductive cloth, how to make conductive glue , and other hands-on shenanigans.
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[ { "comment_id": "195132", "author": "neorazz", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T13:26:41", "content": "What are the viscoelastic properties of this mix ? Could the recipe be changed to make something like greenglue …for soundproofing", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195136", "author": "Saragon", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T13:49:57", "content": "Neat stuff. Seems like a cheap and easy addition to the toolkit. Plus the major ingredients can be acquired very quickly – I know they don’t sell Sugru locally where I live. In the time an online order would require for delivery I could have a project pretty much done with this mixture.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195138", "author": "zypher", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T13:52:10", "content": "I had my honorary troll card out and was ready to blast you over misspelling “sugar”. Now I’m sad :(Awesome article though!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195141", "author": "Chris Muncy", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T13:59:32", "content": "I HATE projects posted on Instructables! Too many pages to click through and not the complete picture if you are not a pro member.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "478212", "author": "Bob C.", "timestamp": "2011-10-12T08:14:02", "content": "I’m NOT an Instructable “Pro Member” and all I need to do is to sign into my free account and all is good. I can see the whole project in one page, download the PDF etc.I find it to be a great site and have for years!I just made some of this stuff and used regular household bleach instead of corn starch and a few drops of acrylic paint. 2 drops of bleach for every full trigger pull of GE Silicone I, it worked GREAT…", "parent_id": "195141", "depth": 2, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "1049066", "author": "Jerry Carter", "timestamp": "2013-08-28T18:04:25", "content": "Thanks for the alternate recipe! Sounds like bleach would mix more readily than corn starch as well. I also can’t get oil-based paints around these parts without some sort of permit.", "parent_id": "478212", "depth": 3, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "2543934", "author": "apple-o", "timestamp": "2015-04-27T15:20:20", "content": "Has anyone else tried this?Other than the normal dangers of working with bleach​(fumes, chemical burns, staining your clothes, etc.)​would this create toxic fumes or result in a more toxic plastic,​or have any different properties that might be useful​(such as more or less flexible, bendable or rigid, etc.)?I am looking to keep the material non-toxic for regular handling, kids, etc.Also, being water-based, would acrylic paint rub off on or stain hands, clothes, carpet, etc., if it gets wet?What kind of paint, dye, or coloring agent would be non-toxic and not stain anything when wet (after it has cured)and where can you find it? (A brand or product name would be appreciated!)Thanks…", "parent_id": "478212", "depth": 3, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "3190946", "author": "Clay", "timestamp": "2016-09-10T04:56:47", "content": "While this post may be older, there are still people out there running across this. Do not use bleach….bleach and vinegar reacts to release chlorine gas…. You may ask how vinegar got into this discussion but the strong smell of silicone is acetic acid (vinegar). I’d suggest sticking to corn starch. I’m using it to seal the ridges on my metal roof to keep wasp and yellow jackets from building nests. I took an old piece of metal and turned it upside down and pressed oogoo into the ridge. I put just a small smear of oil on the metal to help it release. Making about 18″ long logs. It’s absolutely perfect and cuts into 1/2″ pieces very easily. I put a small smear of pure silicone on the plug and slide it in the hole. Of course there are foam piece made for this, but if your roof is already on this works very well", "parent_id": "478212", "depth": 3, "replies": [] } ] } ] }, { "comment_id": "195142", "author": "Chris Muncy", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T14:01:15", "content": "hmm…Looks like the comment sections doesn’t like my tags..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195145", "author": "Eirinn", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T14:10:41", "content": "I made my instructable account long ago so i got most of the pro benefits without paying fnehehe.I’ve never really seen the point in sugru, but i might just have to check it out now it’s on HaD.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195153", "author": "HARaaM", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T14:30:53", "content": "Please tell instructable to fix their login page. all I get is my subscriptions that I used to follow.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195155", "author": "ssh", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T14:33:34", "content": "@ChrisMuncy greasemonkey, autopagerall do wondrous things", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195161", "author": "chippy", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T14:41:54", "content": "“I HATE projects posted on Instructables!”+1", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "527628", "author": "zake", "timestamp": "2011-12-06T04:23:28", "content": "Thats the point of Instructables!The site works fine for me.", "parent_id": "195161", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "195163", "author": "Gordon", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T14:54:39", "content": "That looks useful.I couldnt resist.Ive bought some from here.https://sugru.com/UK postage is 79p", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195274", "author": "Dan Fruzzetti", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T18:37:32", "content": "so it’s a little more viscous and dries tougher (and more faithful to real silicone) than silicone caulk?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "1049065", "author": "Jerry Carter", "timestamp": "2013-08-28T18:02:54", "content": "Sounds like it’s a lot easier to work with as well – probably the biggest advantage over straight silicon. Having caulked a lot of showers and tubs, I can appreciate fully the prospect of working with silicon that is more putty-like. I wouldn’t use this for that application, but the possibilities are as intriguing as the original product and I’m more likely to try some of them now that I have two recipes to try.", "parent_id": "195274", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "195283", "author": "sp00nix", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T18:57:16", "content": "I’d look but i cant stand that site.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195289", "author": "David S", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T19:09:01", "content": "Maybe if instructables sees enough complaints on other sites they will fix their problems. I agree about their login, so frustrating – and their site is obnoxiously filled with ads.Cool project though.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195397", "author": "jeditalian.", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T23:01:53", "content": "weebly.com offers free hosting or whatever and no ads i made a little crappy thing about a year ago on it and its still there @ thisbetterbefree.weebly.comi’ve never tried making anything on instructables because instructables just ruins the experience with their ads and other shenanigans. making a page with weebly is so easy a monkey could doit.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195400", "author": "oak1780", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T23:08:18", "content": "Instructables was a good idea, but they need some moderators with standards… I’m so tired of seeing titles like “make a handmade wireless router” with steps like 1 buy a small wireless router 2 paint it a silly color 3 glue on sparkles and pipe-cleaners. CONGRATULATIONS you made your own router!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195511", "author": "Adrian", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T02:36:16", "content": "I made my account so long ago that I got grandfathered into the pro-gram (heehee I’m punny). Lucky me. As for the login page “problem,” I don’t see what you’re talking about; I just click the login button at the top of the page, enter my name and password, and I see the same page I was already on.Now about this Sugru substitute…I think I’m gonna have to make myself a whole big bunch of this stuff. And just see where that takes me. Because I really have no idea just what in particular I would use it for. But it looks so cool.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195614", "author": "cde", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T06:18:07", "content": "@ ChrisSave this as a bookmarklet. Any time you actually want to see bigger pictures and can’t (It’s based on the amount of time since the instructable was posted btw) just use this.<a href=\"javascript:for%20(i=0;%20i%20Bunch of javascriptor paste this into a new empty bookmark. Make sure there is no space between javascript, the semicolon, and forjavascript:for (i=0;i<document.images.length;++i){if (document.images[i].src.search(\"THUMB.jpg\")!=\"-1\"){document.images[i].src=document.images[i].src.replace(\"THUMB.jpg\", \"MEDIUM.jpg\");};void(0);};Replace MEDIUM.jpg with LARGE.jpg if you want hugemogous pictures. Unfortunately, you don't get the mouse-over text that some pictures have, but eh.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195747", "author": "D_", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T09:36:49", "content": "For whatever reason my free constructable account still allows me the single page, and pdf download options. There are times they don’t work ob the first try, but do so after I refresh the page.While I don’t seeing myself needing this often, I downloaded the recipe to have it at hand", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195811", "author": "corn starch", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T13:46:23", "content": "I’ve used corn starch when making a “Crayola Spray Chalk” substitute. The stuff went sour after a few days and stunk really bad. Does this project carry the same risk?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195817", "author": "Mark", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T14:24:33", "content": "I was wondering how hard Sugru or this silicone caulk stuff compares to polyurethane? Would it be useful at all in automotive applications (ie motor mount inserts) or is it water/oil soluble?I’d like to try it for automotive trim molding too.. need something that will stay flexible and not crack. But it has to be paintable.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195885", "author": "Mr Hacker", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:32:34", "content": "all instructables want is MoNeY , if they annoy people like us ,they will not get much and only less people will take the trouble to do that and moreover , people will turn away from them while on the other hand , if the are asking for donations instead , most people will be more than happy to kick a buck or even a thousand and they will get more people , so please dont annoy us instructables , hate youhatingly , your enemy", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195953", "author": "anonymous coward", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T22:52:18", "content": "@Mark: I’m sure this stuff is fine for the trim molding. It’s not water soluable, but I would be averse to attempting anything as heavy duty an application as a motor mount.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196169", "author": "Hackius", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T10:17:53", "content": "Mr. Hacker: they don’t “want MoNeY”. They need money to run the company and feed their employees. The problem is not that they want to get rich. It’s that they’re barely making ends meet.They are doing stuff in an annoying way but I don’t exactly see them as greedy", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196224", "author": "Mr Hacker", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T13:00:41", "content": "@HAckuis ok , i agree but ads are less annoying and more easy way to get more money , website will trillions and billions will get enough money from ads and the combination of donation requests at just the right spots , they could maintain the pro and free system but couldn’t they stop annoyinghatingly , your enemy", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196228", "author": "Mr Hacker", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T13:13:53", "content": "what , its annoyying that you cant edit poats here ,i meant website gets billions of views every month so they will get enough money ……NOT (website will trillions and billions….)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196589", "author": "DanAdamKOF", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T04:13:05", "content": "My otaku-ness is showing, but as soon as I read “oogoo” I thought of Kanon…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197125", "author": "Trollicus", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T04:39:49", "content": "No wonder they say “do not eat” this stuff tastes terrible. It’s almost as bad as a re-heated chalupa from Taco bell(almost)A little mint and some sweet and low made it better though.Makes a great denture adhesive for your dog.Don’t mind me I’m sleep deprived…….", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198454", "author": "eeun", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T23:47:56", "content": "Cool stuff. I made a couple batches up now, making a small handle for a bastard file, and a test mold of a few small plastic parts.Both batches were about 50/50 silicone to starch as the article suggests, 25 ml total with a drop of blue alkyd paint added for tint. Starts to thicken in about 10 minutes, and stopped sticking to my vinyl gloves about the same time.The file handle is nice, and at 1/4″ thickness is enough to stop it digging into my hand. The mold captured every detail of the plastic parts.Note that there seems to be a secondary curing about 24 hours later, with a strong acid smell. The 5-min epoxy I tried casting around this time remained tacky where contacting the oogoo, so a longer cure time for the oogoo may be required for casting. Could also be the alkyd paint I used, which is different from the oil paint in the instructable.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "550849", "author": "Jon", "timestamp": "2012-01-04T15:03:39", "content": "Anyone know if this Sugru knock-off should have similar temperature handling capabilities as Sugru? Most of my applications would be automotive based which can sometimes be exposed to both rather high and rather low temperatures. I know Sugru has a very large temperature range.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "552769", "author": "steve eh", "timestamp": "2012-01-06T18:43:49", "content": "i know this is an old post, but…i’ve been playing around, made some 50/50 mix cornstarch, made some “bumpers” for the corners of my kids tablets…well today one of them finally got ‘tested’ it survived well sort of.. the tablet is fine landed directly on a corner, the oogoo absorbed the impact, but then detached itself from the tablet…maybe i added to much cornstarch.??so i did a little more research and found that calcium carbonate reacts with acetic acid, to make water h2o co2 and Calcium acetate…which by my experimentation made a 50/50 mix of silicon and CC (and a tiny drop of acrylic paint) cure really fast, like…i went to check 10 or so min after i mixed and it was to cured to change its form…it also didn’t bond very well to…metal,plastic,cardboard,wood,other siliconeso i tried a much less Calcium carbonate’y mix…maybe 6:1…much better adhesion and longer working time…its only been curing for an hour or so but its already quite stiff….and stuck to everything i tried it onanyone else experiment with this?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "552773", "author": "steve eh", "timestamp": "2012-01-06T18:50:46", "content": "forgot to ad my source of Calcium Carbonate…Reptile calcium…fine powder i put on my crickets b4 i feed my geckoes", "parent_id": "552769", "depth": 2, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "703688", "author": "slashdottir", "timestamp": "2012-07-15T17:51:30", "content": "well, how did it work out?", "parent_id": "552773", "depth": 3, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "1049052", "author": "Cort", "timestamp": "2013-08-28T17:29:02", "content": "50Lbs for $8http://truefoodsmarket.com/calcium-carbonate-powder-50-lbs-50-lbs.html", "parent_id": "552773", "depth": 3, "replies": [] } ] } ] }, { "comment_id": "835881", "author": "steve.eh", "timestamp": "2012-10-25T17:41:34", "content": "just revisited this, I was trying to remember what my original mix was, I wanted to make a mold of my finger for Halloween randomness.The original stuff I tried worked out great as tablet bumpers.I mixed this batch with a little more calcium…and it worked great as a mold", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "1415135", "author": "franz matthias", "timestamp": "2014-05-05T19:36:04", "content": "download free:http://mambohead.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/How-To-Make-Your-Own-Sugru-Substitute.pdfgratis herunterladen", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "2818022", "author": "Rick Robert", "timestamp": "2015-12-01T13:52:39", "content": "I had earphones that the plug had separated from the plastic coated wire and the two parts were held together by just the bare wire. Mixed up a batch of 50/50 silicone caulk and corn starch with a little bit of blue acrylic paint to match the wire and ear phone color. Worked like a charm. There was some smell for a couple of days but it totally went away. Put it around the wire and plug then rolled it like dough. Stuck well and dried with good bendability.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "2889971", "author": "Michael Butler", "timestamp": "2016-01-19T08:04:18", "content": "The thing I worry about with the homemade recipes I’ve seen so far is that they all seem to use silicone caulking compound. It’s cheap, but there are things the outgassed acetic acid (vinegar) could corrode. At least that’s what I found out the hard way with just the caulk. If you’re “potting” (encapsulating) electronics or anything else the vinegar could attack chemically… eventually, it does; the cured compound on the outside seals some vinegar in.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "3206537", "author": "Analise", "timestamp": "2016-09-19T18:58:16", "content": "Is there a recipe for Oogoo that can be used for such things as dental appliances, specifically an overnight dental splint to prevent tooth damage due to bruxism. The recipe of course needs to consist of non toxic ingredients.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "3524391", "author": "Mike G", "timestamp": "2017-04-13T02:47:03", "content": "I’ve tried a small amount of baking soda with silicone(the type that emits a vinegar smell as it dries). It makes a silicone foam.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "4762930", "author": "KHas", "timestamp": "2018-07-20T01:16:34", "content": "Can anyone suggest a commonly available crosslinking agent to make oogoo adhere to more surfaces? A quick search led me to something called “methyltris(methylethylketoxime)silane” but it doesn’t seem like something one could buy at their local home depot.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "6769068", "author": "Ian", "timestamp": "2024-06-20T09:26:20", "content": "I’m not in the US so I have no idea what Home Depot sells but…The compound mentioned is one of a huge family called Modified Silanes (MS). They have the best characteristics of silicone and urethanes combined but not the disadvantages, but are more expensive. Here in the UK they have many odd names including CT1, ‘Sticks like sh*t’ (I don’t know how to pronounce the last word – “sh star t”? ”sh asterisk t” ?), ‘I can’t believe it’s not nails’, and others. No smell, cure a bit slower than silicone, paintable. Oddly, they are humidity curing (ie, they need moisture) just like superglues, urethane glues (Gorilla) and silicone.Gluru.", "parent_id": "4762930", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "6208658", "author": "Frugal DIY", "timestamp": "2020-01-08T23:07:40", "content": "If anyone is interested, here is the link to the European patent for Sugru/Formeral. I also have all the patent claims included in my reply. You can freely use this for non-commercial purposes without fear of being accused of patent infringement. I’m not a lawyer, but I’m very confident this is all public information.https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search?q=pn%3DCN101248114A1.A method of providing a self-adhesive moldable handle, the method comprising mixing:a) a first component comprising a room temperature hardening silicone composition;b) a second component, one of said first and second components comprising a wet powdered filler, and the other of said first and second components comprises a hydrolyzable crosslinking agent, To prepare a self-adhesive RTV silicone elastomer composition; apply the RTV moisture-curing silicone elastomer composition to a substrate; and die by hand to form a handle.2. The method of claim 1 wherein said wet filler is present in said first component.3. The method of claim 1 wherein said second component comprises said wet filler.4. The method of claim 1 wherein said first component comprises a hydroxyl terminated polyorganosiloxane, an effective amount of a curing catalyst and one or more wet fillers, and said second component comprises a hydroxyl group Blocked polyorganosiloxane and hydrolyzable crosslinker.5. The method of claim 4 wherein said second component further comprises one or more adhesion promoters, and/or trimethylsilyl terminated polyorganosiloxane, and/or other necessities It is a dry filler.6. The method of claim 1 wherein said first component comprises a hydroxyl terminated polyorganosiloxane and one or more wet fillers, and said second component comprises an effective amount of a curing catalyst and Hydrolyzed crosslinker.7. The method of claim 6 wherein said second component further comprises one or more adhesion promoters, and/or trimethylsilyl-terminated polyorganosiloxane, and/or other necessities It is a dry filler.8. The method of claim 1 wherein said first component comprises a hydroxyl terminated polyorganosiloxane, a hydrolyzable crosslinking agent, an adhesion promoter, and optionally one or more dried fillers. The second component comprises one or more fillers comprising at least 5% by weight water.9. The method according to any of the preceding claims, wherein the filler comprises from 1 to 25% by weight of water.10. The method of claim 9 wherein said filler comprises from 5 to 15% by weight water.11. The method according to any of the preceding claims, wherein the filler comprises talc, calcium carbonate, wood flour, wheat flour, precipitated or fumed silica, or carbon black.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,357.927267
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/10/hackaday-links-october-10-2010/
Hackaday Links: October 10, 2010
Mike Szczys
[ "Hackaday links" ]
[ "dslr", "engraving", "ipad", "jiggler" ]
Old timey pics with a new timey camera Update: We’ve already looked at this one… see the full article for all the details. One way to get old-looking photographs is to use a vintage camera. Then again you can just connect a 1908 lens to a modern dslr with great results. [Thanks MS3FGX] Cheap iPad mounting bracket Need a way to hang your iPad but don’t want to spend some bucks? [Tumbleweed] used a $3 plate hanger to do the trick. Hand engraving You can get free laser engraving when you buy an iPhone but it won’t look as good as this does . [Viljo Marrandi] spent eight hours on this, but most of the time was spent resharpening tools dulled by the tough metal. Let time prevent your computer from going idle Want to keep your screen saver from running? No need to change settings, software, or use special hardware. Just set your mouse on an analog watch and let the moving hands jiggle it around. [Thanks Lovro]
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[ { "comment_id": "194784", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T20:21:09", "content": "Déjà vu on the first link XDlove the engraving!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194788", "author": "zool", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T20:34:21", "content": "want to keep your screensaver from running? change settings", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194792", "author": "24601", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T20:39:46", "content": "nice quick analog solution for the screensaver issue.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194798", "author": "Jim Atchue", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T20:51:52", "content": "The Engraving link is now broken. and In case no one believes me:http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://www.knivesandengraving.com/2010/08/engraved-iphone/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194806", "author": "spiritplumber", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T21:17:55", "content": "http://xkcd.com/196/Obligatory xkcd for the mouse link.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194807", "author": "Cynic", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T21:18:34", "content": "I’d be lery of using one of those plate hangers on tech. I’ve seen the stress damage they can do to plates.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "194828", "author": "EnglishPolice", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T22:36:03", "content": "Lery? I think you mean wary", "parent_id": "194807", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "194813", "author": "Spencer Haley", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T21:33:15", "content": "a way to hand your iPad butTYPO = hang", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194827", "author": "Leithoa", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T22:27:13", "content": "“Need a way to hand[sic] your iPad ”Should be [b]Hang[\\b]", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194837", "author": "EnglishBeliever", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T23:23:04", "content": "Or Leary.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194849", "author": "ChalkBored", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T00:04:11", "content": "He meant leery, which has a similar definition to wary.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194850", "author": "The Cheap Vegetable Gardener", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T00:04:39", "content": "Though I would agree that learning how to change settings is a better solution to keep your screen saver off, though great solution to appear you are working hard at work when your boss checks your communicator (IM) status at 2am…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194966", "author": "Osgeld", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T05:44:24", "content": "yep submitted a quickie for the weekend round up last monday, apparently got bumped for a dupe articleplease hack a day, call me when you get your shit straight, no submission TOS before I bitched and dupe your own articles…what? are you totally incompetent or just that fucking stupid", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194967", "author": "Osgeld", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T05:46:24", "content": "Also submitted an application nearly a month ago, and have never heard backAre you dicking us around or are you too precious to send a “sorry but piss off” email in your busy schedules of duping articles", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "195129", "author": "Caleb Kraft", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T13:12:06", "content": "@Osgeld,Sending you an email now.", "parent_id": "194967", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "194984", "author": "Jon", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T06:32:30", "content": "“Want to keep your screen saver from running? No need to change settings, software, or use special hardware.”HUH? What kind of special hardware is needed to keep your screen saver from running? If this hardware does indeed exist, who makes it? Why? What kind of OS offers a screen saver but no option to turn it on or off?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195022", "author": "hajma", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T07:48:36", "content": "@Jon: turning screensaver off can be disabled by system policy. However in that case using this hack can get you fired.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195206", "author": "Dvboy", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T16:27:03", "content": "Our company has a rule that all laptops need to have a screen saver set to lock the screen before 1/2 hour unattended. Understandable in a cube, but if I’m home watching a DVD, not so useful. I wrote the following AutoIT script and have used it for the past 2 years without incident. I run it whenever I boot at home. It programatically wiggles the mouse right before the saver kicks in:dim $lastPos[2]dim $curPos[2]$lastPos = MouseGetPos()$startTime = TimerInit()$x=0$dire = 10While $x < 100 ;infinite loop$interval = RegRead(\"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\\Control Panel\\Desktop\", \"ScreenSaveTimeOut\") -20$curPos = MouseGetPos()if (($lastPos[0] $curPos[0])or ($lastPos[0] $curPos[0])) Then$lastPos = $curPos$startTime = TimerInit()endif$dif = round(TimerDiff($startTime)/1000)if $dif >= $interval Thenif ((($lastPos[0] == 0) and ($lastPos[1] == 0)) and $dire < 0) then$dire = $dire * -1endifMouseMove($lastPos[0] + $dire, $lastPos[1] +$dire)$startTime = TimerInit()$dire = $dire * -1EndIfSleep(10000)WEnd", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195388", "author": "j s", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T22:44:39", "content": "Viljo Marrandi is a master engraver of over twenty years. He and his father are considered two of the best engravers and knifemakers in all of eastern Europe. He gets jobs from all over the world- he even has a Washington, DC based contact.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195923", "author": "Hitek146", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T21:03:28", "content": "LOL… I bet it would be worth paying good money to read the contents of that email to Osgeld… :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195976", "author": "Electric Jesus", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T23:57:04", "content": "I actually tried the anti-idle thingy with a digital watch! it works! i think it also helped that my the digital readout on my watch is like gigantic.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,358.126115
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/13/chumby-takes-its-first-steps/
Chumby Takes Its First Steps
Caleb Kraft
[ "Robots Hacks" ]
[ "biped", "chumby", "freescale" ]
[Eric Gregory] has gone a bit mad scientist on the Chumby, turning it into a bipedal bot . We expected all kinds of cool chumby hacking, but we can’t say we saw this one coming. [Eric] points out that with a 454Mhz processor, 64MB of RAM, 2GB of expandable storage and a USB host port, the Chumby is more than capable as a robotics platform.  With the addition of a mysterious and soon to be announced sensor board, he has made this chumby into a walking biped. While anyone who can write programs for linux, or even write flash applications can create software for the chumby, [Eric] chose to port the Robot Vision Toolkit over. This opens the doors to people who can write in Basic or who have written for the C64 or Apple][. You can see a video of this guy in action after the break. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBMvGDectjk] [via bunnie’s blog ]
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[ { "comment_id": "196241", "author": "deathventure", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T13:49:11", "content": "Skynet is adapting to basic human technologies.We’re all doomed…Cat’s reaction: “Meh, we already own you”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196243", "author": "brad", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T13:55:06", "content": "looks sort of tipsy… maybe increase sensor polling rate?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196250", "author": "deathventure", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T14:26:46", "content": "that might be an overall design issue. It think it seems a bit top heavy and the leg design are a limitation of the way it’s walking.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196339", "author": "buzzkill", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T15:27:55", "content": "My Chumby just lays there.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196347", "author": "Frits Rincker", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T15:51:20", "content": "Please people, move on..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196353", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T16:12:38", "content": "-sounds like a personal problem…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196393", "author": "walt", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T18:15:48", "content": "that’s how robots with minimal servos walk. check it…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY9XRg7dx7I", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196482", "author": "soopergooman", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T22:00:55", "content": "Wow coding in C64 language, I may have to get one of these and mess around and bring some games back to life. Hard Hat Mac portable sounds about right.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196483", "author": "Grayda", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T22:01:00", "content": "This thing looks terrifying, actually. And yet the cat is just sitting there like nothing is going on..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196606", "author": "MB", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T05:17:01", "content": "i was also impressed by how calm the cat was", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196686", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T08:55:55", "content": "I like it!I have a small collection of photos of my late cat Bart all taken with or from robots.Impressive work with the Chumby!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196772", "author": "blue carbuncle", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T12:38:15", "content": "Ooh a developer board that hasn’t been released yet… What a hack.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197018", "author": "Hirudinea", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T00:52:05", "content": "It looks like the bastard offspring of a Terminator and a Funzo.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197481", "author": "t&p", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T18:37:42", "content": "ah man, I thought it was going to have that face like the bad robocop in robocop2. NOW that would kick ass! Added point for its sound effects. “Mowerrrroooo OOOOWWWwwwoorrererer”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/12/building-a-recumbent-trike-from-old-parts/
Building A Recumbent Trike From Old Parts
Mike Szczys
[ "Transportation Hacks" ]
[ "bicycle", "bike", "recumbent", "trike", "welding" ]
https://hackaday.com/wp-…789484.jpg?w=470
This recumbent trike was built using parts from three salvaged bikes and without welding. These bikes are a bit easier on the back and neck than the traditional riding position. This one also allows for a shorter pedal crank which was a concern for the creator, [Barry Millman]. Not only did he do a fantastic job of making the thing, but he shared the project in verbose detail . It’s a good build. It won’t win a prize for light-weight design as it includes a big chunk of plywood. But it is worth the weight hit if welding is not an option. For your viewing pleasure you’ll find a short parking lot test-drive of the finished recumbent after the break. Oh, and if you want a more dangerous cycling build, try this over-under tandem . [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exc0whaZuoI]
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[ { "comment_id": "195899", "author": "djrussell", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T19:31:24", "content": "typo in the title. you guys need a copy editor? ;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195907", "author": "Drake", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T19:53:30", "content": "Just a note. He says in his build that he only drove one wheel because otherwise he would need a differentialTHAT IS WRONG. With a free-wheel clutch on each wheel the faster moving wheel would remain un-powered through a turn.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "6517313", "author": "Louis Vallee", "timestamp": "2022-09-28T19:24:16", "content": "Did that once and there was a problem in that the inner wheel in a turn got the power and was trying to straigtened the bike out.", "parent_id": "195907", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "195918", "author": "xeracy", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T20:21:40", "content": "Ohhh… from old *PARTS*… thought it said ‘for old farts’", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195945", "author": "The DON", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T22:19:04", "content": "Nice job. I ride a recumbant trike myself (Burrows Windcheetah)From that I have to say that having a single Drive wheel at the rear of the trike makes more sense to me.On this build, I would suggest a much higher gear ratio if it is intended to be used on the road. With a ‘back’ to the seat, you can put in a tremendous amount of power into the pedals. This means wheel spinning and awesome acceleration for a pedal powered vehicle.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195946", "author": "Anonymous", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T22:19:41", "content": "Build a side-by-side two seat recumbent bike with a pickup truck style box on the back and reverse gear and we’ll talk.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195950", "author": "Jak_o_Shadows", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T22:40:11", "content": "Personally, i would have built something more similar to what The DON is suggesting. Having a single wheel at the back makes it a lot easier.<3 recumbants", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195956", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T23:06:44", "content": "Why does he have a bike helmet? Afraid he’ll fall off?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195979", "author": "AtomicZombie", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T00:02:59", "content": "Cheers to a fellow bicycle builder! Keep up the good work.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195998", "author": "Hiski", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T00:46:52", "content": "@WhatnotEven if you drive well, you have to take into account that there are other people on the road too that can drive over you. Besides, it’s always a good idea to wear a helmet anyway, better safe than sorry.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196015", "author": "Steve-o", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T01:51:05", "content": "“Just a note. He says in his build that he only drove one wheel because otherwise he would need a differentialTHAT IS WRONG. With a free-wheel clutch on each wheel the faster moving wheel would remain un-powered through a turn.”HERP DERP you retard. The outside (faster) wheel is the one you want to get power.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196067", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T05:52:39", "content": "@DrakeI think he meant he would need a diff to split the drive in two. How would he do it otherwise? Two cranks with 2 chains?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196092", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T06:45:55", "content": "i only wear my helmet when it’s too cold for biking. practically every time i’ve worn it i’ve had an accident, whether it be supporting the weight of an electric bike on my head or getting hit by a car. pretty sure it obstructs my vision, maybe it’s just the fog.moving along, I remember when Mr. Garrison built a rectumbent bike on south park, even if IT only had one wheel, it was still rectumbent, or at least the driver was. i will now go google the word ‘recumbent’", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196096", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T06:56:47", "content": "hmm.. according to google, you need to tilt your seat back a bit for it to qualify as ‘recumbent’but idgaf about that shit.i have always wanted to build a 3 or 4 wheel vehicle out of bikes. the plans always involved at least one chain saw motor, though.. if i ever do build one though, thanks to technological advancement, the design will contain at least 2 hub motors, if not all wheel drive. and lights, and if i dont figure out the mini-reactor first, then it will just have to run on lithium batteries", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196107", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T07:16:27", "content": "that’s a decent turning radius for the steering design. i’m not trying to criticize your work or anything..i’m definitely no einstein.. i was looking at the picture and wondering how you were going to pull off more than a ~30 degree tilt with that distance. then i was thinking, i would solve the problem like:|_._| handlebars which you pull, pivoting at the “.”, most of the arm coming off those bars____, then a hinge/pivot/bi-directional-elbow joint, and the rest of the _connecting to the front fork. man i suck at descriptiveness. anyway, piloting such a design would be counter-intuitive, pulling left to turn right, would probably kill some people in traffic, but if you did it right, you could make much sharper turns, improved even more-so by adding a hub-motor to the front wheel, allowing front wheel drive to pull you in the direction of the turn. of course, then your recumbent trike wouldn’t be so cheap or light, or green even, unless moving a human with electrical power is more carbon neutral than the human exerting.. (note to self: STFU!!)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196111", "author": "Ho0d0o/Heatgap", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T07:21:33", "content": "Being someone who rides his bike to work, I just can’t see myself using one of these. I think it would be great for comfort (of course) and would make lugging my laptop/backpack around easier. The only problem I see with these is the fact that your so low to the ground that it makes you an easy target for idiot hillbilly drivers. I know, I know he has the goofy red/orange flags sticking up…but I just couldn’t bring myself to tool around with pee-wee flags on my bike. Well done though.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196158", "author": "James", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T09:35:48", "content": "Being 65 he probably doesn’t have to worry about riding to work.I have major back problems when cycling to work (yes my bike is fitted correctly) but I couldn’t ride one of these as I’d have to park it somewhere.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196309", "author": "fartface", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T14:50:38", "content": "There are GOBS of DIY recumbent sites out there. Go searching and find the other 70 of them.That said, a tadpole recumbent trike is 800X better than this type.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196346", "author": "itwork4me", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T15:49:14", "content": "Just a question or two:Were these bike already jacked…or did he mutilate a perfectly good bike some less fortunate person would’ve loved to had as transportation?Any thoughts of a servo and a wiimote for steering?If both rear wheels, each had their own chain, would you have more flexibility in the event of a chain or derailer problem?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196355", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T16:22:54", "content": "lol servo and wiimote. i wouldn’t trust my life to a servo and wiimote. i can think of a way to properly steer but it takes a bit more metal and is impossible to draw with ASCII characters. thats what i’m gonna invent- a chalkboard beside the text entry box where you can share diagrams/schematics, things not so easily put into words. somebody will beat me to it before i accomplish getting up to eat breakfast. i don’t mind though, it’s for the good of humanity and the shortening of extralongcomments._click to view graphic comment_", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196364", "author": "sebastian", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T16:56:26", "content": "@itwork4me said:“Were these bike already jacked…or did he mutilate a perfectly good bike some less fortunate person would’ve loved to had as transportation?”Good catch! These were perfectly good bikes. Brand-new. In fact, they were actually earmarked for donation to some less fortunate person, but he intercepted them and then purposefully hacked them into a DIY trike for no reason but to deny a less fortunate guy a chance at cheap transportation.As you know, this is all part of a larger plan to crush and subvert the weak and helpless. Didn’t you see the Legion of Doom logo on the seat?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196532", "author": "Wingbatwu", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T00:35:23", "content": "If you guys think that ‘bent is impressive, you should check out these building projects:http://recumbents.com/wisil/whatsup.htm#RecumbentBike and HPV Building Projects", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196801", "author": "Barry Millman", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T13:13:51", "content": "A few replies to these posts:1. The bikes were in a bicycle dungeon at Recyclore (along with many others). They were unrideable as offered to me. Not repaired. They may have been scheduled to be repaired and sold, but I got them before any other work had been done on them. Thus I did not take them away from anyone. I made them into the only bike (trike) I could ride.2. Drive one rear wheel (tadpole style trike) then you get to work out (WITH welding)how to turn the two front wheels. I fantasize building a folding tadpole recumbent trike.3. Recumbent. In some of the bike world, it refers to the placement of the feet, generally, in relation to the body. Feet in front is a recumbent. We can split hairs here if desired.4. Thanks for all the comments.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196945", "author": "Nitori", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T19:27:54", "content": "I been playing around with the idea of building one of these except with an electric assist.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/12/arm-prototyping-on-the-cheap-with-stm32-discovery/
ARM Prototyping On-the-cheap With STM32 Discovery
Mike Szczys
[ "Microcontrollers" ]
[ "arm", "crosscompiler", "discovery", "gnu", "stm", "stm32" ]
STMicroelectronics has another inexpensive development board out; the STM32 Discovery is an ARM Cortex-M3 prototyping platform . Coming in under $10 puts it right along the lines of their 8-bit offering , but this one is 32-bits with 5 KB of RAM and 128 KB of programming memory. It runs a bootloader and has on-board USB for easy programming. They’ve even got a trio of crippled IDE’s to get you started. Unfortunately this is following a growing trend with the exclusion of Linux support. [Gordon] wrote in to let us know that there is hope in a couple of forms (but not using the USB functionality). The first is a serial programmer using the RS232 that [Paul] came up with (there’s a lot more on his blog so spend some time there). But you can also use the serial debug protocol to program the board. Either way you’ll still need a method of compiling the code. We’ve had great success rolling our own GNU ARM cross compiler using this guide . Or you can grab a pre-built package by downloading Sourcery G++ lite .
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[ { "comment_id": "195878", "author": "Tony", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:09:57", "content": "Do these have any hope of running the .NET micro framework like similar ARM-based development boards (for example FEZ microhttp://www.tinyclr.com/compare/)?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195879", "author": "UltraMagnus", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:14:22", "content": "3 crippled IDEs == 0 useful IDEs", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195884", "author": "jjrh", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:27:20", "content": "2+2=4", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195888", "author": "godi", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:40:14", "content": "but as with the other products lacking linux support, who cares for IDE’s, text-editor + compiler is the way i roll anyway", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195891", "author": "nes", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:46:36", "content": "That kit is super cheap, especially given the debugger is on board. Such a shame it doesn’t have more RAM. It could almost be a proper computer in its own right.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195892", "author": "gzo", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:55:06", "content": "This thing is far away from being a computer: no MMU, no SDRAM, no ethernet, no wifi, no video, no…thing.It’s no shame, it’s just a muscled micro-controller, otherwise it wouldn’t be dirty cheap.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195894", "author": "lwatcdr", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T19:11:23", "content": "I was really confused when I read lack of Linux support… Well yea it only 5k of ram… Oh you meant for development.These are some really cool devices. Since they are for evaluation they are probably being sold at cost. That is probably why they are not supporting Linux. The do not want a lot of hobbiests buying these instead of basic stamps and arduinos.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195896", "author": "Jok", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T19:26:45", "content": "Sadly if you want to order one, you end up paying 5-7 times as much just for shipping if you live in europe… Way to ruin something that might have been useful…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195897", "author": "KC8RWR", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T19:29:50", "content": "lwatcdr – “The do not want a lot of hobbiests buying these”If not hobbyists then who ARE they targeting at that price?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195898", "author": "PE", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T19:30:26", "content": "“This thing is far away from being a computer: no MMU, no SDRAM, no ethernet, no wifi, no video, no…thing.”You do realize those exact same things could be said about the Apple ][, right? For that matter, “back in the day” we would’ve *killed* for 128k of program memory.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195903", "author": "lwatcdr", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T19:39:55", "content": "@KC8RWRMy guess is developers. They are hoping that people will use these and start designing them into products. At $10 or less it is petty cash. Think of these like “samples”.I could be wrong but the margin would be so small that they would have to sell a huge amount of them to hobbyists to make a profit.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195904", "author": "nes", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T19:40:23", "content": "Apart from the lack of proper networking, none of those other things stops it from being a computer. A terminal is perfectly adequate for a lot of stuff. I think the 5k of RAM holds it back in the controller realm too tho.For a few dollars more, a PIC32 dev board with USB to go, 512k flash and 128k of static RAM can be had which has equally useless Linux support out of the box :-)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195905", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T19:42:02", "content": "I like how they call it a “solution”, as if using the chip is a problem.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195910", "author": "tim", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T20:04:50", "content": "it is not 5k of ram but 8k.Twice the ram of Arduino for 1/2 price.I ordered 4 !", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195912", "author": "tim", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T20:07:13", "content": "12bits AD and DA with DMA is also very atractive for audio projects", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195915", "author": "stbtra", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T20:13:48", "content": "not sure about compatibility with this but checkout YAGARTO toolchain/IDE (open/free)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195920", "author": "Oren Beck", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T20:44:38", "content": "In my entire time working on stuff that pushes electrons around, I have seen a lot of good, bad and beyond uglyI am going to unashamedly consign this board and it’s software associated crudfest to limbo pending their showing some trace of a clue RE: what makes Hackers swear by or AT. ST, this means what it says and says what it means.HAD is read by a major number of folks that can recommend- or discourage buying from a company.Arduino, LillyPad etc are examples of what both being Open and Mindful of the customer can do for market share. Customers that feel desired and cherished by a company quickly go from customers to Evangelists!As with many other situations, the total reversal is even more swiftly dramatic.Oh, I might have considered this STM32 as something to keep my skills fresh or use in some future project. as it’s price point. Then I tripped across some FAILS of crippling STUPIDITY. As when I was fact checking the good and the bad of this STM32 board, I found a truly stunningly **UGLY* and EPIC FAIL relating to it:http://www.raisonance.com/mcu_downloads.htmlThey may have a legal “right” to do Clue Lacking stunts like disabling older versions etc.I feel it my ethical DUTY to warn Hackerdom of their stunning bad. IF they want to have any respect from ME? They=both Raisonance and by extension/association ST might start by reconsidering what having an evaluation version download disable the existing products of that company earns them. Yeah- it’s their code base and their legal right to do what they will with it. Including making deal breaking conditions on code downloads.But for the love of Entropy- do please get a clue eh?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195927", "author": "!!Dean", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T21:16:50", "content": "Don’t roll-your-own compiler, let a Makefile do it:http://github.com/jsnyder/arm-eabi-toolchainAlso, don’t forget about cross-platform loaders:http://forums.leaflabs.com/topic.php?id=235#post-1725P.S.http://pythononachip.orgis ported to the STM32.share and enjoy!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195937", "author": "Myke", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T21:57:46", "content": "lwatcdr: “My guess is developers. They are hoping that people will use these and start designing them into products.”Who the hell would want to use a breakout board in their product? Professionals don’t design products on veroboards and headers that connect on top of arduino.If they want to use some microcontroller, they will buy trays of raw, unsoldered chips and design a circuit board that has all of the necessary components to run the micro.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195942", "author": "Gene", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T22:12:57", "content": "@Myke: Professional do design products on modules and breakout boards. It allows you to quickly develop and test. Trays of raw chips and custom PCBs come later, when the basic hardware requirements have been hashed out and you’re getting ready for volume production. And of course STM wants you to be using their chips at that stage – and the idea is that having a cheap easy module will get you to use their chips (that the module itself is not profitable is entirely besides the point.)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195955", "author": "Myke", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T23:03:53", "content": "@Gene: Ofcourse they want people to use their board for prototyping purposes. lwatcdr was talking about designing final products with these in them. That’s plain stupid.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195957", "author": "Reaper", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T23:07:59", "content": "EE/CompE Students could certainly use it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195958", "author": "fb", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T23:10:21", "content": "a full ARM toolchain as well as an IDE for the stm32 is available athttp://leaflabs.com/. it’s written for the leaflabs maple (128k flash, 20k ram), but it’s bsd licensed and open source so it’s easily adaptable to other stm32 chips.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195978", "author": "Bushi", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T23:59:16", "content": "Looks to me like the Atollic toolchain link on the product page has unlimited codesize and is free to use. How is that crippled?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195985", "author": "MRE", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T00:28:02", "content": "Myke and others: lets not forget that “professionals” are often called upon to design and build one-offs all the time. They are essentially “finished prototypes,” which often have off the shelf modules to save time, make debugging easy, and cut down on board manufacturing.It is rarely ecenomical to send out for a single board. More true when you have to lay out additional circuits from a module, when you can just lay out connections to module headers instead.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196010", "author": "kevin", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T01:26:13", "content": "i’m glad someone posted a link to something on leaflabs..their toolchain for the arduino-compatible Maple board can probably be made compatible with this Discovery board without too much trouble.check them out at leaflabs.com (and no, i’m not affiliated with them other than being interested)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196013", "author": "Spork", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T01:41:53", "content": "@MRE,You just described the last 6 months at my job. We used 4 breakout boards to do 4 different “finished prototypes” that were sent out to market. Then the client sends the prototype to be properly finished by someone else when they are given the funding to mass produce.That said, this board is not much less powerful than a Maple and it’s only ~$12 (Under 10 bucks is a joke, as shipping is close to $20 in the US)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196037", "author": "MysticPixel", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T02:57:52", "content": "Good lord people, get a grip.@”3 cripped IDEs!” … It’s the compilers that are crippled, and the only limitation is code size. The free versions will still give you more than enough to play around with for hobby purposes. The IDEs themselves are, for the most part, fully functional (some of them lack the really advanced debug features, but they’re fine for personal work.)@Oren Beck: what are you going on about? If you don’t like how Raisonance manages their free trial versions, use one of the other two officially supported toolchains, or find your own. I don’t think it’s logical to slam ST for something that’s really got nothing to do with them. If Raisonance or anyone else did the same thing for an Atmega8L compiler for the oh-so-shiny-paragon-of-hackerdom Arduino boards, would you rage against Atmel? Not that I’m defending ST in particular here, the same goes for anyone.Yeah, the compiler limitations annoy me too. But as an embedded designer by trade, I can tell you that’s just how it is. The trial versions do give you enough of an idea to know whether or not you’re going to use the particular chip family for a project, and if you are, you can justify the cost to buy it.Keep in mind the target market here: They were literally _giving_ these things away free at ESC a few weeks ago – I got one one of them, as well as one of the STM8L boards – they had huge bins of them. They’re targeting professional designers who will use these in mass-market products, 50K+ units where the economy of scale will take over.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196058", "author": "therian", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T04:57:25", "content": "limited compilers … limited compilers… are you people really that brainwashed not to use crack ?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196091", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T06:43:16", "content": "The problem with this (and sadly many other similar) threads is the number of uninformed commenters.The toolchain links on the product page are *advertising*.The STM32 is a CortexM3. That means that you can use the same toolchain(s) for it that you would use for any of the piles of CortexM3 cores from Luminary/TI, Actel, NXP, Toshiba, Atmel, etc. etc.On top of that, ST provide both the DPA and CPA layers for CMSIS as a free download, so there really is nothing “crippled” about the device at all.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196128", "author": "Daine Mamacos", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T08:09:53", "content": "Am I missing something? The specs say it has 8kb of ram.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196156", "author": "NoX", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T09:26:23", "content": "Good to see how “less than 10$” can be 10.54€ + taxes + shipping :-Shttp://es.farnell.com/jsp/displayProduct.jsp?sku=1824325&action=view&CMP=GRHS-1000962", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196167", "author": "Someone", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T10:11:50", "content": "Just ordered one through my uni. 14€. Will try to reverse engineer the USB interface.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196172", "author": "Mr Foo", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T10:24:16", "content": "@Mike>> The problem with this (and sadly many other similar) threads is the number of uninformed commenters.On hackaday, it’s always September.Sure, the linked toolchains are all crippled one way or another, but that’s no big deal – they are commercial packages, after all, and the toolchain companies need to make their money somehow.As has been pointed out, there’s nothing stopping you using GCC / GAS, though. Or any other free toolkit.About the only thing I *can* point the finger at ST for is making the ST-Link tool windows-only. That sucks, but, again, it’s not a dealbreaker.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196308", "author": "Nick", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T14:46:52", "content": "Everyone should note that this is a demonstration board for ST’s value line STM32 chips which are around $1 in single quantities. The entire line of STM chips includes the approximately $10-$15 STMF103RE chip which has 512K flash and 128K ram. I have been working with the STM32 Stamp on Futurlec and the STM32 Dev board (http://www.futurlec.com/STM32_Development_Board.shtml)These are really nice chips. There’s a pretty steep learning curve, but they have a lot of power.As A couple people noted, the Leaf Labs uses the same line of chips on the Maple. This has a port of the Arduino framework and IDE. If you are more comfortable in that environment, or if you just want to see stuff working immediately I recommend you take a look at their work.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196341", "author": "Patrick", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T15:38:56", "content": "Considering the selection of chips ST offers and an early checkup, it might actually be relatively simple to replace the meager STM32F100RB from the board with a STM32F103RE (512kB program, 64kB RAM, 72MHz) or a STM32F107RC (256kB program, 64kB RAM but with ethernet MAC and other goodies built-in). The matching packages (LQFP64) have the exact same pinouts and base pin functions, with the extra optons available through general IO pins with some reconfiguration. Replacing the chip with higher-power ones would cost about $10-$15 from what I could find out.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196342", "author": "Tidux", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T15:41:30", "content": "Who needs a cross-compiler? Just compile native code on a Sheevaplug or other ARM (eabi) Linux system.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196361", "author": "Jeppe Johansen", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T16:35:32", "content": "@Someone:Good luck. The debugger shows up as a semibroken SCSI deviceThe windows dll(STLinkUSBDriver.dll) sends custom SCSI commands to it using passthrough communication. Since the Linux driver doesn’t handle those(I didn’t succeed) you would need some driver that can actually send custom sequencesOh, and a heads up; the driver seemingly isn’t stable on 64bit windowsThere’s more information on the my.ST forums:https://my.st.com/public/STe2ecommunities/mcu/Lists/STM32VLDiscovery/AllItems.aspx", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196460", "author": "Paul", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T21:12:19", "content": "Hi. Thanks for the heads up for the blog :)Of the three IDE compilers the Atollic one is the best, being unlimited. Unfortunately every time you compile/link/program it puts up a stupid alert box imploring you to buy the real thing which gets on your nerves in seconds.I don’t think ST have thought it out properly. They didn’t with the 8 bit board either. No real pro is going to be bothered about it being $10 – the only way I can see it making sense is as an ARM Arduino. The aim is not to get current pros using it, but to get the next generation and hackers using it. How much will the use of Arduino do for AVR sales medium/long term – it provides an easy way in, and you can develop it further (you can write AVR code with Eclipse say), and it’s bomb proof (mostly) ? It was a pig getting the STM8 board to work, even under Windows, and it’s not much better for the STM32. Three different IDEs often with horrific registration and sign up code, and starter code that too often doesn’t work. Arduino – download the IDE, install Java (maybe) and go. People who buy an STM32 to play with won’t ever shell out $xxx for a professional IDE.It’s the same reason MS provide free versions of Visual Studio. A pro developing C# won’t bother with it, but it provides a lot of colleges, hackers and the like with experience of MS products.Meanwhile developing on Windows is a pain, and Linux is worse (mainly because of the hardware requirements – and the hardware is already there, it just doesn’t work properly – all it needs is a proper jumper for BOOT0 and the Serial I/O on the STM32 to be mapped onto the USB port).The driver isn’t stable at all. The ST8 board wasn’t either. It doesn’t follow the specs for a USB memory device properly, hence it continually resets under Linux. It just works under Windows, but only just – but all they do with it is provide HTML files linking to documents on the ST website. Why on earth not have (say) the flash on the STM32 as a file there, so you can program it by overwriting that file, bit like the MBED.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196590", "author": "Geoffrey McRae", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T04:18:25", "content": "What do you guys mean no linux support? I develop for this thing on a daily basis under Linux.IDEs are overrated, use vim, you will find it hard to start with, but once you learn it you will never look backAnd for those that read that and are about to try to bash vim, I daily develop for XBMC using vim as do a number of the other developers, so don’t try to tell me vim is no good for a large project.As for flashing, yes, there WAS no Linux support (or very little) until I wrote a flash tool for it…http://stm32flash.googlecode.comMind you, I have since learnt that JTAG programming and debugging with OpenOCD is worlds above the serial programmer.High level languages such as C#, are such a waste of resources on this little device.There is a precompiled cross compiler available here which works flawlessly:http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release1294Your in the world of embedded, if you want to use it properly, learn about cross-compilers, learn how to use makefiles properly, and learn how to use an editor such as vim.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196915", "author": "Gben", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T17:43:02", "content": "Thanks 2 Geoffrey and others for the info, really !", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196950", "author": "Oren Beck", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T19:32:47", "content": "@MysticPixel: The “what are you going about” comment is deserving of a fair handling. Yes, you have pointed out diverse work-arounds or alternates for the toolchain. Perhaps the concept of guilt by association is edgy in some elements- or is it? Here’s my simplest explanation for that warning.I am not contesting the “rights” of Raisonance to handle their revenue models and IP policies as they see fit. I wish them nothing but good sales. Hopefully good enough that they come over to the Free Side where many categories of Ulcers and nightmares go away :)Same applies to ST for being associated with Raisonance or any software/firmware sources they see fit to.The single deal maker or breaker is that “disable what you already have” concept. Do please recall the Sony “Rootkit” incident and what aftermath it had. Frankly speaking- Would any of us really want to give a good recommend, let alone OUR money to a company that has such IP policies? If it’s any doubt as to how a first reading says it?http://www.raisonance.com/mcu_downloads.htmlFolks, it’s a case of Informed Participation, to create another acronym. My main concern is that if we are not careful, we risk things like hitting the other download page first:http://www.raisonance.com/arm-download.htmlWhich would not clearly show the warning on the other page. Nor would we have seen that this is a company that uses Sentinel Dongles etc..Again- they have the ethical and legal “right” to handle their IP however they see fit. In an ethical world where no one would violate the stated permissions of an IP owner EVER, Perhaps all such discussions might become null.Or? The concept of truly Free and Open both in source and financial has some very compelling BIG wins. Every time any of us choose to recommend a company we’re essentially saying we approve of them. I do not approve the concept of entangling the hardware with very unfree companies, even at the “present” distance between ST and third party developers etc.Just because it’s within their rights to do what they will with their code- it’s within my rights to respectfully say NO to Dongle Locks etc. The reality is that Free Distribution turns what would be a “pirate” into your Crowdsourced PR worker! And from that concept of Worldview Hacking= Preaching the Gospel of F/OSS I close by directing anyone with doubts to look at:http://craphound.com/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196984", "author": "Geoffrey McRae", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T22:26:31", "content": "Over the last two days I have built a basic website that contains articles on how to use the STM32 under linux, from setting up the cross-compiler to setting up and compiling your first project.There is even a skeleton C project that is ready to go with the latest version of the ST library linked in.This is all available for free at:http://stm32.spacevs.com", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "201385", "author": "brazov", "timestamp": "2010-10-23T16:52:27", "content": "Incredible! How is it possible to have on the market a so low cost 32-bit microcontroller family (up to 512k) based on CORTEX-M3? Are they loosing money? CORTEX-M3 has more performance of Von Neumann based CORTEX-M0, how does can be its cost so low? All microcontrollers of this class have not the value line performances in terms of DMIPs and set of peripheral!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "215322", "author": "Rich", "timestamp": "2010-11-20T08:23:56", "content": "Geoffrey McRae has setup all his pages but I still do not see how that lets me debug this board. I still am stuck with a broken windows only interface on this board as far as I can tell. Did I miss something? I already have the cross compiler chain installed for other devices I use, but to use this board I don’t see how to get things loads without a windoze box, and I don’t currently have one of those. (I rarely miss it, expect for losing things like this that don’t a clean interface.) I have dfu and dfuse tools working, and several other tool chains, but this board seem useless without better support.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "215477", "author": "Mihail121", "timestamp": "2010-11-20T17:38:31", "content": "Wow, dudes, just got mine, packaged nicely and waiting for me :) I ordered on the 14th and my project number was 9xx so I guess they still have some boards around. Can’t wait to start prototyping.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "269887", "author": "Enrico", "timestamp": "2010-12-08T02:04:37", "content": "If you need tutorials concerning STM32 Discovery and Atollic look here:http://www.emcu.it/STM32.html", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "287814", "author": "capt'n", "timestamp": "2010-12-22T01:17:16", "content": "Hey guys, I and Spen (OpenOCD) are hackig on the linux support for the STM32 Discovery’s USB stlink. You can help or follow the development right here: hxxp://capitanio.org/mlink/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "288096", "author": "Enrico", "timestamp": "2010-12-22T09:52:22", "content": "HiIf you need STM32 Discovery tutorial look here:http://www.emcu.it/STM32.html#TUTORIAL_and_SW_examples", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "302821", "author": "Geoffrey Brown", "timestamp": "2011-01-12T23:14:49", "content": "Actually it’s a terrific board and the only thingmissing for a totally Unix based development environment is a gdb server. The atollic oneworks fine in a windows VM and communicates nicely with a Unix based gdb (7.0 or earlier it seems). I use OS X, but linux would be slightly easier on the tool side.gdb works fine for flashing elf files, so no need for a separate downloader. Also, the st-link based debugger interface seems pretty robust. Lots of stuff that never worked right for me with openocd talking to an ARM7 or MSP430 works flawlessly with gdb through st-link.There are a few issues with the build environment for the demo code, but those are easily overcome. On needs a linker script and a startup file. The startup files distributed with the board hang trying to init libc — I just commented out the appropriate line. All this is dscribed here:http://cgi.cs.indiana.edu/~geobrown/stm32/GDB was great for tracking down that libc problem !", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/12/use-a-3d-mouse-with-eagle-cad/
Use A 3D Mouse With Eagle CAD
Mike Szczys
[ "Software Hacks" ]
[ ".NET", "3d", "3DConnecxion", "cad", "eagle", "mouse" ]
[Sebastian] made a 3D mouse work with Eagle CAD . He was inspired after using a 3DConnexion device to manipulate the views in a copy of Solid Edge 3D CAD modeling software. The system uses the 3D mouse in one hand with the regular mouse in the other. It turns out that 3DConnecxion offers a lot of tools to get their devices working with your software. [Sebastian] downloaded the .NET example and modified it to read in data from the device. With the use of hot-keys he manages to get zoom, pan, and centering to work (see for yourself after the break). The only drawback to his implementation is that he can’t pan while dragging parts. But that’s just a small issue waiting for you to find a solution. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1NS4ZDU89Q]
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[ { "comment_id": "195848", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T16:23:54", "content": "I’m sorry but that looks like a clumsy solution for most people. It might work for him just because he is so used to doing things a certain way in CAD, but for me it would not be any help at all. All you have to do for eagle is map a button on your mouse to “pan” (or just use the scroll wheel button) and you’re good to go.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195851", "author": "addidis", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T16:28:48", "content": "I was actually planning on setting up my Logitech G13 with some hotkeys / scripts for eagle. I have just been waiting for something to motivate me to do it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195854", "author": "fluidic", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T16:35:28", "content": "Meanwhile, my normal 2D mouse handles all the degrees of freedom available while affording a much tighter control loop.I’m all for nonstandard input…but it should do something.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195856", "author": "kopfkopfkopfaffe", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T16:38:12", "content": "The motivation for my little project was not to create a practical solution, it is more like a proof of concept. I wanted to show that it is very easy to control an application with a space mouse and send out a message to the developers of Eagle to implement space mouse support in their next release. That would make working with Eagle so much better for me and hopefully for a lot of other people that are used to space mice.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195857", "author": "Spork", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T16:42:48", "content": "The issue I have with this solution is that I lose my hand on the keyboard where I can quickly type “del” “mov” “rout” “net” etc… to switch functions and not lose my mouse position. The middle mouse button works great for zooming/dragging and F5 centers.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195869", "author": "Mr Hacker", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T17:41:54", "content": "i use paper hahaha , no need of all this junk", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195874", "author": "diago", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:03:06", "content": "Brennan. Sure, you’re used to doing something one way, so changing to a different way is always going to be slower at first, but that’s like saying walking is faster than riding a bike, because you keep falling off the bike in the beginning.For the rest of us that understand that two handed direct manipulation is much quicker, and less error prone than any other method once you get up to speed, I’d like to see more of this kind of thing – how about doing the same for freehand drawing apps like painter or sketchbook pro, but also with the option of page rotation in addition to zoom and pan, to capture smooth arm actions?Spork – I agree – the more expensive Spacemouse / Spaceballs have a plethora of configurable buttons that are essential in any software for professional use. I don’t really see why the cheaper (£100) SpaceNavigator has to be designed without buttons, other than for marketing reasons.I tried to build something similar to the Magellan/LogiCAD/3DConnexion devices a few years ago, but was using strain gauges, and couldn’t get them to work stably due to thermal drift, and electronics isn’t my area (I’m a Mech Eng). I believe the 3DConnexion devices work optically?Anyone (Sebastian or others?) got any good ideas for how to make a cheap 4-axis (2 axis pan, zoom and planar rotate) USB controller? I’m sure it’s dead easy with the hardware available these days?I’d be very interested to hear from you…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195881", "author": "fartface", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:17:25", "content": "the BEST way to work in eagle is to use a tablet with a pen. Program the tool hot spots to eagle commands and you are jamming. I just wish I could get a good old fashoned puck based cad tablet working with windows 7 or Linux.. the old 25pin rs232 11X17 tablets input devices kicked the crap out of the junk they sell today.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195882", "author": "fartface", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:19:11", "content": "@MrHacker…Export your “paper to a 4 layer board with internal vias and send that file to the board house…Your way is good for the N00bs and causal person that does maybe 2 designs a year. Try doing real designs on paper… Aint gonna happen.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195883", "author": "Mr Hacker", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:26:54", "content": "@fartfacethat is maybe because the guys who invented paper forgot to invent Photoshop , gimp , eagle , auto cad blah , blah ,blah for The PaPeR , they did not even remember to make a good graphical interface", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195887", "author": "macegr", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:39:51", "content": "The best way to use Eagle is with a scroll mouse (laser, with on-the-fly resolution selection, Razer Copperhead etc). I’ve been using Eagle for about 8 years and have tried various types of mice, Wacom tablet, keyboard only, trackball, touchpad, even a flight stick for laughs.One hand on the keyboard, one hand on the mouse…tried and true for virtually all CAD applications, not to mention games. Other input tools are a gimmick.Then again, I never play console FPS because aiming with a stick is too alien.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195889", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:43:26", "content": "my 3 button 2D mouse works fine i never had a problem with it on eagle before and said to my self “you knwo what this needs? A 3RD DIMENSION!”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195893", "author": "cgmark", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T19:01:44", "content": "now if the 3d connexion devices wasn’t so dang expensive !", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195901", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T19:37:27", "content": "@diagoI think you misunderstood my argument. I’ll spell it out clear: two-handed manipulation may be the best solution for many programs, but in my experience, it is NOT the best for eagle (which is what this article is all about, incidentally). It has nothing to do with learning curve, I’m sure I would get used to a new system eventually (but why bother in the first place). In eagle you are almost constantly changing tools. Move/copy/delete/add trace/ripup/smash/rename/change grid/etc. and the the fastest way to do all this is with a scrollwheel mouse and keyboard shortcuts. There is no faster way AFAIK. That’s awesome that you and the author want to explore alternate control methods for programs, but I’m saying it won’t matter in eagle when you’re constantly having to switch from two-handed mouse control to keyboard shortcuts, etc.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195917", "author": "diago", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T20:19:25", "content": "@Brennan.You’re wrong. I fully understood everything you wrote, and you’re now contradicting yourself. Using your left hand on the keyboard *is* two handed control, whichever way you look at it; it’s about making the most of both hands to increase input data rate.If you read what I wrote, you’d see that I agree that having direct access to mode buttons is essential, hence the keyboard shortcuts can be mapped to dedicated buttons on the more expensive devices which you don’t have to move your hand for. It’s the same from 2D and 3D CAD work in the same way that it is for Schematic capture and PCB layout.The analogy for two handed control is that of a sculptor with a knife in one hand and the clay (or whatever) in the other. Look at use of any other hand tool – usually the non-dominant hand is doing a very important job to support the dominant hand.The ergonomic principles are well proven and are as applicable to 6 axis work as to 3 axis work.You said “in my experience, it is NOT the best for eagle”. How do you even know?Have you even used a 3DConnexion device for something similar to Eagle?I use my Spaceball for my 2D Mechanical CAD work, and after 2-3 months use my production rate doubled, and number of mistakes are greatly reduced. Productivity gains are similar for others also, not just myself.Why bother in the first place? I already answered this in my previous comment – speed and accuracy for technical work. For creative drawing work it has the added advantage of capturing natural movement.If your approach to life is why bother to try new ideas, then why bother reading HAD?!@BiozzOf course a 2D mouse works fine – if you’re just doing casual work, then it’s not worth buying / learning a 3D Mouse (which is a crap and inaccurate name), but if you’re using it a fair bit, the gains are impressive.If it’s a scroll mouse that you use, then you already have a 3rd axis, so you probably do see the point. The point of the 3DConnexion devices is not to substitute the mouse, it’s to augment it.;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195922", "author": "jan", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T20:51:50", "content": "While its true that you need to change tools frequently in eagle (as with most CAD tools ;), you also need to pan and zoom a lot with only one or two tools, for example while routing or placing parts.The problem is, that once you have used a space mouse for CAD, you will never go back to not using one (at least for 3D CAD). I work frequently with both 2D CAD, such as eagle, and 3D CAD, and my hand always reaches into the blank spot where I suspect the space mouse when I am using a program that does not support it (or I start to use it, and nothing happens :/).Hopefully, someone at Cadsoft will see this proof-of-concept and implement this correctly directly in eagle. Please, Cadsoft, hear us!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195939", "author": "Kenneth Finnegan", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T22:02:06", "content": "When my employer gave me a space ball, it solved a lot of my RSI problems, being able to split my CAD work between moving with my left hand, and drawing with my right. It has the added advantage of being able to do something with the mouse while panning. Being able to pull a slow pan with the left hand, and then be free to meanwhile select objects as they rotate by enabled me to work much faster.The office also burns through about 4 of these a month (30 engineers), so I certainly wouldn’t buy one for myself. Get your company to buy you one.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195951", "author": "uMinded", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T22:51:29", "content": "I bought a SpaceExplorer 3D mouse like the one in the post for use with SolidWorks and SolidCAM when I am using my CNC machine and its only $150 shipped and an awesome tool for that use.One problem: I have been using it for 4 months and I still drive like a drunken pirate!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195959", "author": "diago", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T23:10:23", "content": "Search for “Spaceball” on eBay. You can pick up second hand serial versions of the 4000 or 5000 models very cheap and they work perfectly with a £5 USB to serial convertor.Sometimes USB ones are pretty cheap too….", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195975", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T23:44:18", "content": "@diagowhat are you on?i have done all my professional work with a mouse also … never once have i ever had any problems with it or could speed it up or slow it down in any way … you zoom in with the scroll you move with the x and y and you work with keyboard shortcutsnothing this thing offers i cant do with a mouse and shortcutsapparently you dont use eagle", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195990", "author": "Trollicus", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T00:40:01", "content": "I use a Keyboard a mouse and I use my tail for a third controller, but I’m just gifted I guess.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196026", "author": "brennanthl", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T02:49:28", "content": "@biozzYup, that’s exactly what I was saying, and all the engineers I know completely agree. How hard is it to click the middle mouse button to pan? Not hard at all. I’m sure a space mouse is excellent for 3D cad programs. For eagle this hack is just a proof of concept and nothing more.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196051", "author": "DarwinSurvivor", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T04:00:26", "content": "Is it just me or is that “mouse” more of a joystick than a mouse? A mouse has a linear action, move it left, the cursor goes left. A joystick (and this thing) it’s “hold it left and the cursor moves left, then let go to stop it”.I never understood how people could use a joystick/spacemouse for precision work.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196084", "author": "elektrophreak", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T06:15:33", "content": "it is a joymouse :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196192", "author": "diago", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T11:08:43", "content": "@biozzJust because a regular mouse works fine, doesn’t mean it can’t be improved. Productivity gains are not my opinion, they are fact from multiple studies.I do use Eagle, although not as much as mech CAD, that’s how I know the same principles apply.@brennanAgain, you’ve completely missed the point. Of course it’s not hard to click the middle mouse button. I’ll reiterate – the same pan/zoom/(sometimes rotate) apply to 2D and 3D CAD Mechanical CAD packages too, but it’s much more fluid to work with a 3D mouse in your non-dominant hand.Why do you use a mouse instead of a trackpad? You can achieve the same with a trackpad, but it will take longer, and be more error prone, since the ergonomics aren’t ideal.What jan and Keith Finnigan above have written are right on the money. Until you’ve used one, you really can’t see the point, and then after you have used one, you’ll never go without one.Just because with 2D work you don’t need 3 or 4 of the possible 6 axes, doesn’t mean that the principles don’t apply – they do.I guess some of you guys just don’t get it, and refuse to believe that there might be a better solution. If you do get the opportunity to use one, then please try it. I guarantee you’ll be surprised.@darwinsuvivorYou’re absolutely right, 3D mouse is a poor description, and I think that’s the problem that most people who don’t get it are having here.A mouse is an isotonic (not like Lucozade) device which gives control proportional linear control in 2 axes (i.e. a horizontal plane) to a given scale or gain (unless you have acceleration turned on). X distance with the mouse gives X*C distance on the screen. And of course it controls the pointer.The Spacemouse / is more akin to a joystick than a mouse – yes. It’s a mostly isometric (static) device, that can move a small amount against springs in any direction – 3 axes rotationally and the same 3 axes linearly:http://www.engineerlive.com/Design-Engineer/Computer_Systems_Software/The_economic_payback_of_3D_mice_as_a_user_interface/20832/The further you push the ball or puck away from it’s home position (by applying force), the faster the *rate* of movement of the workpiece or page on the screen. The ball or puck is very sensitive to distance/pressure applied, which allows very controlled fine or fast control. Usually you will stop the workpiece / page before you start clicking away at it with your regular 2D mouse.Note again that the spacemouse/ball does not control the mouse pointer…it controls the workpiece or page, which can be manipulated simultaneously and independently to the regular 2D mouse and pointer.Check out some videos to see how it works.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196236", "author": "Garrett", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T13:39:57", "content": "I could see something like this being useful even in games, particularly a RTS. Imagine panning the battlefield quick and efficiently while still commanding units with the mouse! Or panning while focusing with hot keys instead for great macro.Often times in an RTS one’s left hand hardly does anything, and by having an input like this it could make certain small functions more efficient!Cool all together though :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196584", "author": "Drone", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T04:03:15", "content": "Man, Eagle and .NET mentioned in the same article. Run for the fire escape!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "990086", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2013-04-06T21:10:09", "content": "I know this is an old discussion, but I just found it now. I am a design engineer that uses solidworks and eagle all day long, every day, for years on end with what seems like no breaks.. Anyway ive got some intermittant RSI issues and have tried lots of things. My employer bought several of the high-end 3d space command things and I honestly tried to use it for a couple of months. Conclusion for me was these devices are gimmics. In Solidworks, Does not realy save time, too imprecise, not goig to drastically improve your results. For Eagle? Complete joke. Get a good mouse and more RAM", "parent_id": "196584", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "3011419", "author": "Frank", "timestamp": "2016-05-05T09:11:41", "content": "I solved this issue by using JoyToKey and mapping the 3D mouse to the mouse cursor where simultaneously with the cursor movement the middle mouse button is pressed.Moving the knob up and down moves the emulated scroll wheel to zoom in and out.Using JoyToKey the other buttons on a spacemouse or spacepilot can easily be remapped to assigned hotkeys in eagle.It works like a charm and doesn’t interfere with applications that natively support the 3D mouse.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,358.45422
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/12/halloween-props-puking-pirate/
Halloween Props: Puking Pirate
Mike Szczys
[ "home hacks" ]
[ "ghoul", "Halloween props", "hose", "pirate", "puking", "pump", "vomit" ]
With everyone’s favorite free-candy holiday approaching, [Slouriesr] set to work building a vomiting ghoul for his Halloween display . He’s calling it a puking pirate and it centers around a pump and some simple plumbing fixtures. First, the vomit receptacle was made by adding a sink drain with a pop-up stopper to the bottom of a kitty litter bucket. The drain slows the evacuation of liquid into a five gallon bucket below. In that bucket you’ll find a float switch pump used to keep water off of a pool cover. As the bucket fills up the pump turns on and empties the water through a hose ending at the ghoul’s mouth. The result is a 20-second puke cycle sure to delight the trick-or-treaters. Sure, there’s a lot of work to be done to get this guy looking the part, but what a great idea! Help keep us in the holiday spirit by sending the details on your latest prop build.
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[ { "comment_id": "195831", "author": "jackie", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T15:36:20", "content": "funny! Can’t wait for Halloween!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195843", "author": "kvmanii", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T15:54:41", "content": "Is it going to be a violent pulsating puke or a constant stream? I can’t wait for a video of this.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195859", "author": "Spork", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T16:45:54", "content": "Very fun idea, but it needs more video! (At the same time, thanks for posting it early enough for someone to actually implement)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195911", "author": "mecharobotronic", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T20:05:29", "content": "instructables! BOOOOOOOOOO!!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195987", "author": "Smallfried", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T00:31:39", "content": "The build is cool, but the site is horrible! Never link to that again!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196153", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T09:11:06", "content": "I like that!I hope the finished version gets posted along with some video.-please? :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,358.501176
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/12/take-me-back-to-a-simpler-time-radio-flyer/
Take Me Back To A Simpler Time, Radio Flyer
Jakob Griffith
[ "Toy Hacks", "Transportation Hacks" ]
[ "1976", "car", "cart", "mazda", "radio flyer", "truck", "vehicle", "wagon" ]
[Fred Keller] and [Judy Foster], both retired, are proving that age is just a number. What you see above is a nostalgia inducing full size driveable Radio Flyer red wagon. The base of which is a 1976 Mazda pickup truck, while the wagon portion is a mishmash of wood, fiberglass and bondo, detergent bottles, and more . Even the steering wheel has been retrofitted from an actual wheel from a wagon. We were surprised to find out the entire conversion only took the two 11 months to complete (finishing this past august), and even more confounded to learn the vehicle is completely street legal. [Thanks Rob]
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[ { "comment_id": "195813", "author": "nes", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T14:00:44", "content": "That’s awesome! Looks a little low slung but I love it. Wonder if the handle ‘works’.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195820", "author": "nimitzbrood", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T14:41:40", "content": "Awesome with awesome sauce! :-)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195823", "author": "Ford", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T14:53:21", "content": "Hate to be the one to do this, but that isn’t “full size.” Full size would be the original size, as opposed to a miniature Radio Flyer.Anyway, that wagon is awesome! The wheels are the perfect detail.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195829", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T15:26:19", "content": "Totally cool; I had one of these (standard size) when I was a kid.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195842", "author": "JB", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T15:52:53", "content": "The word they hear more often: AWESOME! I’ll just repeat it.This proves age is only in your mind. Great project!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195847", "author": "Dj", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T16:15:56", "content": "I saw that thing driving around just the other day. pretty neat looking “truck”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195850", "author": "Chris", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T16:24:22", "content": "I bet that thing is hard to get in the McDonalds drive thru", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195853", "author": "jh", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T16:33:47", "content": "and a built in tow bar just in case it gets stuck. :p", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195858", "author": "signal7", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T16:45:05", "content": "Can’t be street legal with that ‘bumper’ on the front. It’s death on wheels if you ask me.I’m betting it’s registered as a mazda pickup and the modifications haven’t been declared. At the least, the insurance company has no idea what they’re driving.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195876", "author": "Hacksaw", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:05:02", "content": "I was going to comment on the street legal thing because of the handle but decided against it. COOL WAGON!!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195886", "author": "Tom", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T18:34:03", "content": "I was going to say the exact same thing about the street legality; I’d make a bet that it’s a Ship of Theseus, just like Boyd Coddington got nailed for (regardless of the mirrors, windshield, gauges and signals). The point on the handle would impale any car with the misfortune to get rear ended by him, and the frame reinforcement looks minimal.That said, it’s still a sick project, and they get extra props for driving it around in Alaska of all places (you can see the license plate for a sec in the video).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195906", "author": "neorazz", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T19:42:21", "content": "ROSEBUD………….", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195936", "author": "lwatcdr", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T21:51:06", "content": "As far as street legal goes it is probably just fine. It has all the lights and a windscreen. As far as the front? It is probably a heck of a lot less dangerous than a lot of jeep bumpers I have seen. It is made mostly out of plywood. If it hits you It is probably not any worse then getting hit by the orignal pickup truck. Heck did you see the condition of the truck? It is probably a little safer than the orignal at this point.Also folks this is in Alaska.In Alaska I am guessing they are more tolerant of people risking their own lives to do cool stuff. This isn’t California we are talking about.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "1123644", "author": "Ron", "timestamp": "2013-12-06T07:45:28", "content": "Some people would bitch if they were hanged with a new rope.I think the project is wonderful. It brings out the best in everyone with a brain.They say the tow handle is made of PVC so I’m betting, so is the mount made of collapsible material that would just crush on impact with any other vehicle.Very little risk to anyone.", "parent_id": "195936", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "195963", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T23:21:15", "content": "…and the frame reinforcement looks minimal.Uh hello. It clearly says “detergent bottles and bondo”;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195999", "author": "Chris.G", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T00:58:14", "content": "Just because the front isn’t like a typical car, doesn’t immediately dismiss it as non-road-legal.It wouldn’t fly out of a manufacture, that’s for sure. Pedestrian safety would be crap.But there’s a guy that drives a motorcycle that’s built into a tub with a seat. He just threw on the seat, lights, and built it around the tub. Road legal.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196045", "author": "mjrippe", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T03:32:53", "content": "@ strider_mt2k – Thanks for the literal LOL!Damn, if I had time and a garage space I would love to turn my rusting Karmann-Ghia into something cool like this!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196086", "author": "pRoFlT", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T06:21:30", "content": "This was circling the office email last week. Nice build.I have a small 91 S-10 sitting in the driveway that i dont use. I was thinking about making it a convertable. But the radio flyer would be awesome.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196106", "author": "Ho0d0o/Heatgap", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T07:16:23", "content": "It’s inspiring to see an older gentleman like himself fabricating and building something like this from scratch. Cool as hell. I bet it’s a blast to cruise around in.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196116", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T07:36:28", "content": "Nice ‘MODzda’its cool but tha handle is just ‘out there’i would have broken away from traditional design, by making it longer, and wrap around, locking into the rear of the wagon so you have something in the middle to hold on to, since you don’t have the ‘oh shit’ handles that are on the door-side ceiling of most cars.that’s the only part that looks dangerous to me. idk if it really folds down, for towing or whatever, but it doesn’t look like something i would want to have on my car when driving through any low-overhead pass like a 9 foot tunnel, potentially breaking off and wreaking havoc or damaging my pretty red wagon. maybe i’m overthinking this, or underthinking this, because i can think more and say these people are not going to be driving 90 in this thing, there is no windshield, and it is likely only streetlegal for parade use.i don’t see this ‘windscreen’, but living in Alaska wouldn’t you want to make your vehicle more.. polar bear-proof?“took the two 11 months” confused me but i got that now. as you all are well-aware by now i am somewhat mentally challenged. eye yam sofa king we todd did", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196138", "author": "howdy", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T08:29:34", "content": "There has been one of these driving around Davis, California for years. Always good for a laugh.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196247", "author": "Andrew", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T14:05:44", "content": "If you look at the fox news article, it reports that they did do modifications to make it street legalhttp://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/12/alaska-couple-makes-radio-flyer-car-pickup-truck/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "1123653", "author": "Ron", "timestamp": "2013-12-06T07:51:28", "content": "If the “SMART CAR” is deemed street legal- anything would be.This project is very well done and it brings joy to all who see it.Not to mention satisfaction to the builder.Good on ya Alaskans.Great project.", "parent_id": "196247", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "196576", "author": "Coley", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T03:22:50", "content": "Here is a video of it i found on youtube.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au0wnf2gTCE", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,358.56292
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/11/adding-mobile-control-to-your-gardening/
Adding Mobile Control To Your Gardening
Mike Szczys
[ "green hacks" ]
[ "app", "firewall", "garden", "grow", "winphone" ]
[The Cheap Vegetable Gardener] wanted to check in on his garden from the road so he wrote a control app for his WinPhone . The hardware work is already done; having been built and tested for quite some time. The implementation comes in two parts, both shown in the chart above. The grow box is behind a firewall as you don’t want random folks turning on the water and grow lights on a whim. The first part of the interface takes care of this separation by providing a set of functions on the host machine. The second portion is the phone app itself which calls those functions and displays all the pertinent information from the status of the lights, heater, exhaust, and water pump, to the current temperature and humidity. He’s even used Google Charts to graph data over time. The app itself took about two hours to code with no prior experience, a testament to the level of approachability these tools are gaining.
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[ { "comment_id": "195363", "author": "Eirinn", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T21:33:18", "content": "Nice use of mobile communication – and for once actually useful.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195373", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T22:01:56", "content": "Cue 10+ posts about this being used to grow certain restricted plants…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195382", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T22:22:27", "content": "Wow!I bet people could use this for growing certain restricted plants!(just 9 more to go) ;)In all seriousness this guy has been posting some neat garden hackery to the site for a while now.Really neat stuff.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195405", "author": "monster", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T23:20:07", "content": "set up a streaming webcam and youll know when your garden has been discovered by local authorities", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195465", "author": "ARS", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T01:03:03", "content": "And you posted @ 4:20 :)I have a lot of write ups and diagrams of my setup. Perhaps I will translate them over to digital copies or just scan them for the site. Can we search by what users have posted? I suppose I will find out shortly when I scroll up, lol.Cheers", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195562", "author": "Trollicus", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T04:00:32", "content": "I used to have a 300 gallon fishtank and several smaller (90 and 50 gallon) tanks. I liked growing aquatic plants and had some very beautiful planted tanks.Needless to say a large power bill(tank grow lights plus server and network) attracted some attention from the local authorities (helicopters over my house on several occasions!)One day, I spotted a guy trying to look in my basement window. I tapped him on the shoulder and he almost wet himself. Yes, he was law enforcement. To clear things up I invited him in and showed him my fishtanks. He looked very disappointed, evidently they had spent a lot of time and manpower on me and were preparing a search warrant.I was a little upset about my privacy being invaded, but I would have been more upset if they had raided my home at 3 am.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195799", "author": "fartface", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T12:36:57", "content": "And all of it can be replaced with $60.00 in timers.Honestly, are all you people whacked out control freaks? I gotta be able to water my hydrangia while I am in Maui!The simplest and most automated solution is the best..Next up on HAD…. Flush your toilet from Twitter!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195809", "author": "MB", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T12:58:41", "content": "@fartface some plants required special care and if you are not going to be around… that idea sounds good “Flush your toilet from twitter” you should do it and be next on HAD", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195841", "author": "Pam", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T15:52:08", "content": "This is just too cool. Water and grow your garden from afar. Thinking about getting a droid phone is mind boggling, makes you wonder what else you could do with these phones.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195844", "author": "The Cheap Vegetable Gardener", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T15:57:09", "content": "@monster, well it does take a picture every minute that can be viewed from the mobile device. Though when they see my cayanne pepper and basil plant could be good to see their faces…@Trollicus, I am actually surprised I have not gotten reported by one of my neighbors…open garage they can see glowing from the grow box, with a herb dryer next to it and a bag of dried peppermint on top of it. Maybe it is because I use CFL and do not have the heat signature or power usage to be investigated@fartface, I completely agree (probably could be done with $15 worth of timers) though I am in the school “if it is worth doing, it is worth overdoing” One of the problems is watering at the right time, sure I can water every other day but depending on temp and humidity I shouldn’t water for over a week sometime and daily on others. Funny thing is I know a guy who had an internet flushable toliet, but he did have an legitimate reason to do so. He had a cabin in dry/windy Nebraska and the toliet water would slowly evaporate ending up making the cabin smell like a sewer when it dried completely up and letting all the nice gases come in. Sure a piece of Saran wrap would have done the job as well, but something about being able to flush the toliet from 800 miles away.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195867", "author": "dan fruzzetti", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T17:24:12", "content": "All this so he can grow pot while away on business…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196053", "author": "dude", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T04:24:13", "content": "imagine this hooked up to cages in a rat farm for feeding reptiles… or to relays that reset individuals computers in a data center… the garage door…he should put the camera on an arm and add pruning shears for remote harvesting/drying of said restricted …um…vegetables.sorry bout the post and… daves not here man", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196148", "author": "Ethan", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T09:00:22", "content": "usefull", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/10/add-on-panel-brings-automated-vents-flaps-to-a-pc/
Add-on Panel Brings Automated Vents Flaps To A PC
Mike Szczys
[ "computer hacks" ]
[ "arduino", "bezel", "case", "fan", "fins", "heat", "servo", "styrene", "supercap", "vents", "water jet" ]
[SXRguyinMA] built a replacement top bezel for his computer case. He wanted to add vents that would automatically open or close based on the cooling needs of the computer. With some careful measurements he modeled the parts in Sketchup and sent out for them to be cut from styrene with a water jet cutter . The parts came back looking great and the assembly of the shutters went swimmingly. The bezel also includes a lighted screen for temperature information, as well as the front USB ports, headphone and mic jacks, etc. Hidden underneath is an Arduino board and servo motor. The Arduino polls the temperature and drives the servo to adjust the fins accordingly. There’s even a supercap in the circuit that will close the vents when the PC powers down or when power is unexpectedly lost. See it in action after the break. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx2G64BgPgM]
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[ { "comment_id": "194733", "author": "peter larson", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T18:16:00", "content": "this looks stangely like this alienware case:http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-area51/pd?refid=alienware-area-51", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194736", "author": "24601", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T18:20:49", "content": "I’d set up a delay in closing the vents after shutdown, along with running the heatsink fan a few extra minutes, to cool down the CPU and other components. The heat doesn’t magically go away when the computer shuts down, but the fans and everything are turned off anyway.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194740", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T18:38:32", "content": "my new alienware desktop does thisits cool!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194741", "author": "delirium", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T18:40:55", "content": "Nice build, but using an arduino to do this seems overkill to me, there are temperature sensors out there that can turn on fans or even a fan controller from the motherboard would suffice.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194747", "author": "Craig Burden", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T18:51:58", "content": "Looks, awesome the only thing that would make it better is if it would go a bit slower to add to the awe,giving it the sci-fi effect!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194751", "author": "Snowman", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T18:59:09", "content": "The reason for the arduino is that it allows him to control the system even after the computer is powered off go take a gander at the worklog.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194752", "author": "nes", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T19:04:26", "content": "Very clean build. Wish I had the patience to tackle this.@delirium: I think the PWM output from the motherboard wouldn’t drive a servo directly. The frequency and duty cycle required are quite different. You’d need some circuitry between them, a microcontroller make it easy and cheap, and an Arduino has the advantage that the firmware can be updated in-situ.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194757", "author": "Eirinn", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T19:15:17", "content": "The cost of the atmega chip and the few extra components are heavily outweighed by the simplicity of coding for an arduino :)Burnbootloader onto atmega chip, connect the crystals and so on, add a temperature probe (or anything similar) and a servo+rails – add the code and it’s pretty much done.This is why i love the arduino, it makes it much less likely for headaches to happen :D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194759", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T19:22:40", "content": "@nesyou can use a 555 and a few opamps with a bunch of passives but i do agree that an arduino would be easiest and it leaves room for farther improvements", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194768", "author": "Trey", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T19:41:50", "content": "The Coors can is a nice touch ;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194777", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T20:00:22", "content": "I would time the closing of the fins out a little opposite-like so that the heat from the cooling system isn’t trapped inside after shutting down.Either way, that is an impressive-as-hell hack.Kudos!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194782", "author": "PhilKll", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T20:16:48", "content": "The action on the open/closing is great, this turned out really well, must have taken a lot of patience and measuring twice.You could probably use a micro to do a pwm compare on the motherboard fan controller,then adjust the servo accordingly.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194808", "author": "Brian", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T21:19:07", "content": "What’s the benefit to ever having it closed? I assume it has an air filter either way, so why even bother having it close?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194809", "author": "Will Lyon", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T21:19:45", "content": "Thanks for all the feedback guys!@Craig Burden: I like the idea of having it close slower, I may try to work that into my coding!@peter larson: The Alienware case is where I got the idea for this. I was originally going to do it as a mod to my Thermaltake Armor case, but I won this NZXT Tempest EVO in a contest and it already had 2 140mm exhaust fans in the top, so it worked perfectly!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194811", "author": "Eikka", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T21:24:57", "content": "There’s no benefit from “aftercooling” things. It’s not like a car engine where you might get hot spots after a hard drive, that might then damage something as the heat starts to spread.The chips and the heatsinks have so little thermal mass that they start cooling immediately after the power is cut.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194819", "author": "euphorix", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T21:54:57", "content": "@24601 The fans in a pc turn off when the pc turns off because the components will not get hotter then there already are. Components only get hot when a electric voltage is run through them.“I’d set up a delay in closing the vents after shutdown, along with running the heatsink fan a few extra minutes, to cool down the CPU and other components. The heat doesn’t magically go away when the computer shuts down, but the fans and everything are turned off anyway.Posted at 11:20 am on Oct 10th, 2010 by 24601”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194821", "author": "Abbott", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T21:58:30", "content": "@EikkaTrue, but it would give the system a .05% greater reliability to remove the heat immediately. Not really, I don’t have numbers or know if that would help or not, but it would be pretty sweet to see the system being cooled for an extra thirty seconds then closing up.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194835", "author": "Myke", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T23:21:31", "content": "The supercaps weren’t necessary. You could have used the +5V standby rail to power the servo.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194836", "author": "Charles Gantt", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T23:22:15", "content": "Congrats on making HAD Will. I knew it would wind up here when you first approached me about it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194839", "author": "davo1111", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T23:27:20", "content": "@MykeI didnt realise the +5v standby rail works in a power outage :/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194840", "author": "Myke", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T23:27:49", "content": "euphorix: “Components only get hot when a electric voltage is run through them.”That would be “AN electric” and you don’t run voltage through anything. You can do that with electric current, but you just supply the voltage.Get your shit straight.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194844", "author": "Dizzey", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T23:45:18", "content": "Just using a atmega is not that hard. I dont use external crystals unless the timing is really critical (and if the timing is that critical you the ardino have to much overhead).I dont use any bootloaders and use plain c.A simple make file so it’s just “make && make install”.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194861", "author": "VV", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T00:45:07", "content": "Have you left the 2 fans underneath the vents in the case? If so you have probably lessened their cooling effect.But I’m inclined to say who cares! It makes the already awesome NZXT Tempest Evo even more AWESOME!!Yes, I own one too :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194880", "author": "vonskippy", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T01:37:48", "content": "At no point in the operation cycle is a indoor computer ever “too cool”.So there is NEVER a reason to have the vents closed.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194882", "author": "hammy", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T01:45:21", "content": "It’s likely the point of the vents is to have a quiet method of shunting hot air from the case. He likely has some passive vents at the bottom of the case to let cool air in. Having two fans probably WOULD make it cool better, but if you were going to do that you wouldn’t go to all the trouble of having adjustable vents and just have two static vent fans, right?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194904", "author": "Panq", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T02:41:28", "content": "To those saying there’s never any point closing the vents: Wouldn’t that possibly help lower thermal cycling when the computer is briefly powered down? I would think that keeping the machine at a constant temperature would be better for longevity than always keeping it as cold as possible (though ideally it would be constantly cold).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194921", "author": "Will Lyon", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T03:22:35", "content": "The purpose of closing the vents is that I shut off my computer every night, and its very dusty in my house. Closing them makes it so the dust floating around doesn’t float it’s way down into my case :)And I couldn’t find a way to use the +5v standby to power the Arduino. I use the 5v as the sense pin to tell the Arduino if the computer is on or off, and adjusting the vents accordingly (open or closed). This same +5v triggers a relay which lets +12v through to a +5v red to charge the caps. The reason for the relay is the system would backfeed through itself and it would not take 5v away from the Arduino’s sense pin, and the vents would stay open until the caps drained.I plan in the future to put the ATmega320 on it’s own custom board with the backup power circuitry all integrated into the board, rather than on 2 boards.I had thought about the idea of leaving the vents open for a few mins after the computer is off to let the heat naturally migrate out, but like others have stated, once the components are powered down they’re not generating more heat so it’s not really needed :)And yes, I did retain the 2 140mm exhaust fans under the vents that came with the Tempest EVO. The fans are controlled via the NZXT Sentry 2, along with every other fan in the case (8 total).Also, thanks to HAD I went from 1.7GB usage on Photobucket to 13.3 :D So for those of you that check out the worklog the pics won’t be visible! I’m working on getting the Pro account, so bear with me :D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194929", "author": "MB", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T03:49:35", "content": "why is the mouseover “sanyo digital camera”?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195018", "author": "pyrhho", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T07:41:26", "content": "Would be cool (possibly) to tie the angle of the vents to the temperature inside the case, so as it warms up they open slowly, then as it cools down they would close again.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195039", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T08:52:35", "content": "Hey -point taken on the thermals of shutting down stuff.Thanks folks.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195124", "author": "Will Lyon", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T13:00:51", "content": "@pyrhho:The vents are tied to the temp of the CPU actually. On a cooler morning the vents are hardly open, and as the computer warms up they open more. I’ve got the coding set that way :DThe video just shows them popping so far open because I had just had the computer on and shut it down to take the vid.I’m working on a way to make them close slower on shutdown though just for a neater effect.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195126", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T13:06:22", "content": "Pretty nice and clever, you avoid the noise when webbrowsing but have cooling when playing games, I’m amazed that not all cases above a certain pricepoint have this.But now that he thought it up maybe they will :)BTW, I know they made some cases with moving parts, but not plain and simple and functional like this that I recall, those cases were more doing it to get attention.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195137", "author": "Paul Potter", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T13:51:11", "content": "Brilliant, and looks much nicer than the Alienware case.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195185", "author": "Metalwolf", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T15:37:33", "content": "I was throwing around some ideas for something like this on my carpc case. I live in the midwest and i dont think my carpc would like sitting with its vents open while it is -20F outside.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195201", "author": "Alex", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T16:14:50", "content": "24601:Sure, the heat doesn’t magically go away, but the source of heat does, so why keep cooling it actively when it will cool down on it’s own?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195266", "author": "grenadier", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T18:11:14", "content": "@AlexBecause he can.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195354", "author": "Will Lyon", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T21:13:28", "content": "you guys should definitely check out the work log to see all that went into this! From the design to the assembly, testing, etc, even the RGB lighting effects fromhttp://www.pcboard.ca!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/10/new-a4-jailbreak-debacle-puts-the-brakes-on-for-ipad/
New A4 Jailbreak Debacle Puts The Brakes On For IPad
Mike Szczys
[ "iphone hacks", "ipod hacks" ]
[ "4g", "a4", "chronicdevteam", "geohot", "greenpois0n", "ipad", "iphone", "ipod", "limera1n" ]
If you’ve been waiting in the wings for the next Jailbreak to be release you should know there’s been a bit of a speed bump. [ChronicDevTeam], which has been working on an exploit for A4-based iOS devices called SHAtter, tweeted last Thursday that the fully tested, untethered, and unpatchable package knows as greenpois0n would be released today. But on Friday [Geohot], who you may remember from the PlayStation 3 Hypervisor exploit , rolled out his own mostly untested and admittedly beta jailbreak called limera1n . So where does that leave the situation? Because [geohot] used a different exploit, the [ChronicDevTeam] decided not to release greenp0ison. If they did, it would give Apple a chance to block two different exploits. Instead they are working feverishly to incorporate, test, and repackage using the same exploit as limera1n. If you don’t want to wait, jailbreak now, but you risk problems with an unstable exploit method that is only available for Windows. [via @ChronicDevTeam ]
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[ { "comment_id": "194648", "author": "dnny", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T16:18:11", "content": "Only available to windows ? woot? How about us fanboys? I will wait.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194653", "author": "fluidic", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T16:25:52", "content": "Wouldn’t it be so nice if we didn’t have to keep up the legal pretense that is DRM?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194668", "author": "Phil", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T16:46:29", "content": "Geohot RULES", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194677", "author": "Johannes Burgel", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T17:00:07", "content": "How do people with such amazing technical skills do not find anything more interesting than helping the most screwed-up hardware/software manufacturer on earth?Seriously, how many customers would NOT buy an iPhone/iPad if they had to stick with the limited and DRM-infested world Apple allows?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194683", "author": "Darkmatter", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T17:05:44", "content": "@Johannes, I would not buy their stuff if I had to stick with their junk, I do believe however that Apples’ hardware does have potential.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194684", "author": "fluidic", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T17:05:52", "content": "@BurgelAssuming the last statistic I read on the topic was accurate, about 10% of Apple’s touch devices are jailbroken, declining to about 5% for a few months after a software update. Which is actually huge if you think about it, but it doesn’t say who wouldn’t have bought in the first place.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194722", "author": "FaultyWarrior", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T17:55:28", "content": "@Darkmatter – 100% there with you. I hate OS X, hence why I run Windows 7 x64 on my MacBook Pro. The hardware is awesome, but their programmers seem like they’d fail a basic C class in college. The guy who released JailbreakMe (Comex) now just keep a running list of kernel hacks he finds. (which is how Limera1n became untethered btw.) To find two bootrom exploits is pretty fail as well. If Apple is serious about stopping these guys, they need to fire their programmers and get ones who know what security is. Although I’m fine with these exploits – I just jailbroke my iPhone 4 with Limera1n a few min. ago and it’s fine.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194737", "author": "asdf", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T18:22:51", "content": "I’m beginning to see why many serious hackers think Hotz is an asshole who only cares about personal fame.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194738", "author": "apostl3pol", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T18:31:36", "content": "I love Apple software and hardware, I just wish they would give us a shell for iOS devices. A Mac is like a linux box with an extremely well-supported OS, which makes it the most stable platform there is. I don’t understand the motivation for witholding root privileges on their portable devices…imagine how people would react if they did that in OSX.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194753", "author": "Yossarian", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T19:05:31", "content": "Who thinks of these names? greenpois0n maaaan! AWESOME!!!!11Funny thing is, this misfit goes to the same college as me.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194789", "author": "art", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T20:35:33", "content": "i just jb my ipad 3.2.2 using the limera1n and it was very simple to do.just remember to update your itunes to version 10 or it will not work, believe me, it took me about an hour to discover this.cheers.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194791", "author": "hmm", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T20:37:03", "content": "This looks like a dick move, going ahead and releasing a “mostly untested and admittedly beta jailbreak” one day before another group does.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194805", "author": "dext3r", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T21:05:44", "content": "@FaultyWarrior:why do you have a MBP running win7 exclusively? seems like a waste to me – could be running that on any ol’ machine.@hmm:agreed. wasnt geohot crying awhile back that he wouldnt release this exploit because everyone was mean to him or something?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194825", "author": "Grayda", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T22:08:40", "content": "Good one Geohot :BAt least we have a backup for when Apple blocks this (which, given their DST bug, may be later rather than sooner ;))They should use the time after limera1n to stockpile exploits like Team Twiizers.That or Android on the iPad ;P", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194829", "author": "nullinvoid", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T22:50:17", "content": "Just use Limera1n. Did it yesterday on my Ipod touch 4. It is FLAWLESS and quick.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194874", "author": "Trollicus", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T01:18:21", "content": "After my screen cracked on my Iphone(a butterfly landed on it) I went to Droid, although one of the highlights of owning an Iphone(for me) was jailbreaking it(joy!) I have come to like the droid better, now with the froyo update and firefox 4 coming, I really like being able to watch flash video and it’s just plain faster.Plus I use it to tether my netbook.Yeah, I don’t look as cool as the people who sit at starbucks with an Ipad(doing what I wonder?) but I’m not independently wealthy.I still get looks when I pull out my AVR dragon plug into my netbook and start flashing chips. Hey, I’m a coffee addict and proud of it, why are you there? Now if I could only find a way to etch circuit boards at starbucks I wouldn’t need an apartment.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194881", "author": "hammy", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T01:42:04", "content": "@Trollicus: I imagine the people at Starbucks are probably writing a list of better tech they could have spent all that cash on.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194936", "author": "M4CGYV3R", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T04:11:08", "content": "The fact that these things cost as much as a reasonably powerful computer, and yet you can’t use them usefully, should mean that nobody buys them.When this supposedly happens, Apple should see the error in its ways and let people develop for their own damned devices, right?Right?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194981", "author": "Andrew", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T06:22:22", "content": "@Trollicus: If you could only find a way to make coffee at home you wouldn’t need Starbucks. Although, if you *are* a coffee addict why are you there?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195030", "author": "javajunkie", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T08:18:30", "content": "If you can afford a daily starbucks you can afford preactically anything imho", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195045", "author": "Xb0xguru", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T09:32:29", "content": "@FaultyWarrior – you run Win7 on a MacBookPro instead of OS X? On everything I’ve ran OS X on (including non-Apple hardware), it’s run better than its Windows counterpart. I would definitely bootcamp Windows on a Mac, but to replace it is ignoring a very powerful and stable OS (thanks to the UNIX backbone).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195099", "author": "abba", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T11:37:38", "content": "If greenpois0n is supposedly unpatchable, why hold off from releasing it?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195208", "author": "Curtis", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T16:44:34", "content": "I used limera1n.exe on my 8 gig ipod touch 4g (firmware 4.1). It worked perfectly. It took one click to apply it. I am enjoying the cydia goodness once again.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195628", "author": "cde", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T06:23:11", "content": "@ Abba, because nothing is unpatchable. And Apple could just as easily make a hardware tweak, without creating a new revision for software, and there would be no easy way of telling if the greenpoison would jailbreak or brick the new revision, or if the new revision can even be told apart from the current one.If someone already shot the man you were going to shoot, shooting him again is just wasted time/trouble.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195675", "author": "ryad", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T07:48:34", "content": "its great thanks a lot", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196638", "author": "Rahul", "timestamp": "2010-10-14T06:53:00", "content": "Apple will definately tweak the hardware to block these jailbreakshttp://www.enewsplus.comlets see", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,358.754857
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/10/human-theramin-one-step-closer-to-cyborgs-not-really/
Human Theremin, One Step Closer To Cyborgs (not Really)
Jakob Griffith
[ "digital audio hacks", "Wearable Hacks" ]
[ "instrument", "theremin" ]
Oh [Humberto], what will you think up next? A human Theremin you say, and it’s for Halloween? Certanly this will blow last years creepy capacitance sensing jack-o-lantern out of the water right? Eh, not really, but still cool none-the-less. By using pairs of IR LEDs and IR photo-transistors, [Humberto] makes a simplistic distance sensor. Then its just a matter of converting that light value into sound , which is accomplished by using some very clever PWM square wave hacking to make a triangle wave. Also, [Humberto] goes over the process of using fast integers to represent slow floating point numbers. While none of the project is really a new concept, it certainly is put into an easy perspective so anyone can try their hand at it. All well worth the read, or you can catch a video after the jump. [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dF-ZGquRNY&feature=player_embedded%5D
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[ { "comment_id": "194571", "author": "Tachikoma", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T14:13:02", "content": "Typo in the title, should be Ther[e]min.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "194628", "author": "Caleb Kraft", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T15:43:37", "content": "@tachikoma,thanks, fixed.", "parent_id": "194571", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "194616", "author": "turn.self.off", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T15:16:00", "content": "I wonder, could he not also use this by moving his own wrists vs a surface?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194692", "author": "Myrph", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T17:18:57", "content": "@turn.self.off I was thinking this too, but I wasn’t sure if interference from the IR LED on the other wrist would just ruin the effect.Ruin or make 10x more awesome…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194772", "author": "echodelta", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T19:52:10", "content": "Yes as to playing off of a surface. The sensor for volume need not as be sensitive, as pitch. So interactivity could be low. Keep your hands apart to interact with a table top. With the recent hack of IR sensors for piano velocity sensing, you could put one on each finger. Silicone and gloves. Scaled down in sensitivity. Control filter parameters in real time speech synthesis like the Voder in the 1939 Worlds Fair.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,359.399796
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/09/yashica-electro-shutter-mod/
Yashica Electro Shutter Mod
Caleb Kraft
[ "digital cameras hacks" ]
[ "3.5mm", "camera", "film" ]
We saw this picture on Flickr this morning and started getting really curious. The caption says that [Steffanhh1] modified the Yashica Electro Shutter camera to be fully manual . We’re not camera experts so we had to do a little research to see what was going on here . The Yashika Electro got its name due to how the shutter speed is controlled. You have two little LEDs that light up depending on which direction you need to turn the dial (based on ambient light?). [Steffanhh1] really wanted full control, so they hacked in a dial with a knot of resistors under it. The first test photographs are downloading developing, so we’ll have to wait to see the results.
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[ { "comment_id": "194054", "author": "flapjackboy", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T18:10:31", "content": "3.5mm? surely you mean 35mm. 3.5mm film would be pretty impractical.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194082", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T19:27:22", "content": "Oh. man.There must be a flux-capacitor in there somewhere.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194140", "author": "M4CGYV3R", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T20:32:07", "content": "Lol, people still use film cameras…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194149", "author": "Quin", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T20:58:44", "content": "Interesting idea, turning a nearly completely automatic camera into manual. Hope it turns out some nice photos.It’s hackaday, so the mandatory critique is: To go through all that work and only get full stops? Spring for a log taper potentiometer with some detents. ;-)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194172", "author": "Renee", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T22:33:55", "content": "@ M4CGYV3RYes, many people still use film cameras. Digital cameras may be “convenient” in that it gets you an image quick, but film still offers many benefits.For example, the cost to scale film to your needs is nothing compared to the cost it takes to scale a sensor.That’s why people who do catalog work, high-fashion or other things where the final product is going to be projected on a large scale still use film.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194187", "author": "stunmonkey", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T23:24:14", "content": "@ M4CGYV3RDigital is convenient, while film is a pain in the butt.That is where the digital benefits end however. If you need actual quality in the images, you still use film, and will for some time.I still think its funny there are millions of fully manual rangefinder cameras out there cheap that no one wants to use, so someone took a 50 year old expensive and desirable camera (ironically, one that is collectible because it was one of the first to have auto functions) simply to cut it up to remove those functions so as to get the same functionality as simply getting a cheaper and more common 55 year old camera.Cool hack nonetheless, I just can’t see the sense in it other than pissing off the people hunting for the very rare black model.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194206", "author": "TxCHLInstructor", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T23:59:15", "content": "There is one major advantage of digital over film that you didn’t mention, MRCGYV3R: Digital ‘film’ is WAY cheaper :0 Which is good, because I have to do passport photos for my CHL classes. I do those on my dye-sub Samsung spp2020 ( now superseded by the newer model,http://sn.im/spp2040) for a cost of under 15 cents per passport photo, on a printer that cost me less than $50, and weighs about 3 lbs.Back in college (just after the earth cooled and crusted over), I did a lot of 35mm B&W photography, developing my own film, and making my own prints. Was a fairly expensive hobby, but not as expensive as color photography (I did very little color photography for myself, because I could not afford it). I learned enough about photography in general to get a job as a photographer for a local party-pictures outfit. I even got the higher-paying color assignments.Those days are long gone. I’m not sure you can even get film and photographic paper any more, it’s been so long since I bought any… I drug my old Yashica Electro-X out of storage about 8 years ago, and sold it on eBay, for what I thought was a ridiculously high price of $25.Now, anybody can shoot color photography using a camera that costs about $100 ($400 if you want to get really fancy), and print 4×6 color glossies on a $50 printer for about 50 cents a shot. And dodging & other darkroom tricks are obsolete, too. I use GIMP…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194208", "author": "Thebes", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T00:05:34", "content": "Lots of people still use film. Image, a Full Frame 35mm camera for, like 50 bucks!Unfortunately a lot of these are automatic only, I recently considered a Rollei X35, which is kind of cheaply built but has a Sonnar design lens with an interesting and romantic look I love. A similar Leica mount lens might cost 500 or more, the x35 can be had for 50 bucks, but it is also relatively useless for serious photography since it has only a program mode. Now I wonder how its shutter is controlled, a lot of these fixed lens rangefinders were made by the same manufactures and probably share similarities to allow such a hack.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194209", "author": "Ian Tester", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T00:06:02", "content": "The description isn’t clear, so as the owner of an Electro 35, I feel I should clarify things.The Electro 35 is basically always in “aperture priority” (Av) mode. There are ‘bulb’ (B) and flash modes but they still require battery power. The shutter tries to fire at its top speed of 1/500 and an electromagnet keeps it open longer.The ‘dial’ you turn is the aperture dial. The over/under lights simply tell you when the shutter speed would go outside the 1/30-1/500 range.It’s a great little(-ish) camera, even after several decades. And film is still a great medium.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194215", "author": "TxCHLInstructor", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T00:22:31", "content": "I got the name wrong on the last post; that was for @stunmonkey. My apologies for not reading closely enough.@Thebes — I’ll have to take your word for it. I certainly thought film was a fine medium back in the days I used it, but I don’t remember the last time I saw anybody using a film camera, other that those little yellow one-time-use boxes that you can still find at some tourist traps.Just this morning, I was at a convention, and I saw a couple of pro photographers with $1500 digital lashups. Last time I was on a cruise, I got my picture taken getting on board by a pro with a digital camera who transmitted the photos to the ship via the internet so that they were available for purchase by the time we checked in. One of my neighbors is a full-time wedding photographer — and he has *never* owned a film camera.The world has gone digital. Yes, film may be a fine medium, but it’s an increasingly expensive and difficult hobby. Kinda like muzzle-loading, although I actually know a few black-powder muzzle-loading enthusiasts.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194233", "author": "Ken", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T01:27:29", "content": "If you already have good film equipment, the longer you put off switching to digital, the better.A couple years ago, a half decent digital point and shoot cost no less than 300 dollars and something worthy of being called a DSLR cost 1000 bucks.You can half those prices today, and they are just going to keep getting cheaper and better.It all comes down to volume. If you don’t take lots of pictures, then upgrading to digital is less of a priority.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194266", "author": "stunmonkey", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T03:26:46", "content": "Digital is cheaper only for minor stuff like the passport photos and random snapshots that only need small/low quality prints.As for film availability, places like Kodak and Fuji that bswore to get out of film 10 years ago are not only still making it, but spending serious money researching and introducing new film types today. Professionally, digital never lived up to its promise.They are gonna have to work side-by-side for some time.Digital isn’t cheaper at all if you want any quality. A professional MF digital camera runs $12000 – $45000 for just the body, to get the same quality as a <$200 MF film body.I can develop a lot of film for the +/- $20,000 difference. It actually works out to even more than that if you get on the endless upgrade treadmill of digital and buy new bodies every few years. The film bodies will work just the same in ten years as they did 10 years ago, and they have a working life span of 50 years, not 3.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194279", "author": "Quin", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T04:06:42", "content": "Developing your own film is not that expensive. Twenty to thirty for a spool and a daylight tank, spend a bit more for a light-safe bag. Couple bucks in chemicals, and you can develop black and white with no problems at all, long as you can read a stopwatch. Color film is more difficult, you have to be able to keep a sink of water at 100 degrees F, so that takes a thermometer.But please, keep spreading the story that film is dead. It helps everyone who just wants snapshots move to digital, and lets me find Zeiss lenses for 2 dollars. Though I may go broke finding old box cameras to repair. Not that the repairs are costly, but developing other peoples 30 year old film can be an addictive hobby.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194385", "author": "Kaj", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T06:59:44", "content": "The Electro 35 is a nice camera – I even built one out of three broken units I had. The lens was fast and sharp, and that electronic exposure system also had a few tricks that even the modern cameras have trouble with. The cadmium sulfide resistor that acted as a sensor was actively read throughout the entire exposure, not just read for the moment beforehand… really handy for doing automatic fill flash, or long exposures where the lighting can change. Whenever the camera thought there was enough light, it closed the shutter.Long exposures over 30 mins have been reported successfully using this camera!Still, you would be hard pressed to find any digital camera that can beat my film camera – a 1952 Pacemaker Speed Graphic. With a 4×5 inch negative scanned at 3200DPI, I end up with an 80 meg greyscale JPEG! Even pushing the film scanner that far, you do capture useful detail.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194477", "author": "Renee", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T11:09:42", "content": "I don’t mind digital at all, I just have issues with the culture and marketing of digital cameras.Listening to those people singing the praises of the latest mark 50DX px 100 zed plus whatever, you would think that photography was brand new and that you couldn’t possibly take a decent photo before this new camera came along.People have the audacity to say that things like HDR are brand new and a digital only feature.HDR was being done as far back as the 1860’s. Mostly as a workaround to the problems associated with glass-plate technology of the time.So yeah, film has a strong pedigree and will not be going anywhere for a long time.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194694", "author": "Kimmo", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T17:23:21", "content": "That is so awesome! :D :D I recently modded my Yashica Electro 35 GSN with yellow leatherette and a silver/gray lens cap (pics @ my website). This is obviously the next logical step :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194778", "author": "Stefan", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T20:00:27", "content": "Hi all!I am the one that modded this camera. Basically, the autmatic mode works by letting light shine through a photoresistor until a certain amount of electricity has flown through (simply spoken). What i did was bisically to let the light go through fixed resistors instead of the light/photoresistor thing.@QUIN: The proof of concept indeed was a potentiometer and i had markings on it for the different speeds. However, i was missing the satisfying clicks of a switch dial, so i chose the path with the ordinary resistors. After all, my manual mode is pretty easy to make and replaces the “bulb”-setting on the camera. i instead have a bulb-position an the dial now. I someone wants a schematic, let me know… And regarding all the digital-analog-controversy: The most enjoyable thing about analog for me is that the time that i need for a picture, the dial-turning, guessing, checking and the final click. I could have taken 20 digital pictures in the same time but i am glad everytime for only one, hopefully good, picture. and yes, the hopes are part of the fun, too. All the best from Hamburg, guys… Stefan", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194779", "author": "Stefan", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T20:01:51", "content": "Oh, and sorry for some misplaced letters. I tend to type too fast…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195913", "author": "Gösta", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T20:09:45", "content": "Stefan, you are great! :-)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198177", "author": "Stiman", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T03:41:40", "content": "Whats great about film vs digital is that you can use these great solid cameras from the 70’s. Until we get a digital film roll, that is quite a something for those who enjoys these historical cameras :)Nice hack!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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https://hackaday.com/2010/10/09/using-an-arduino-or-seeeduino-for-its-ftdi-chip/
Using An Arduino Or Seeeduino For Its FTDI Chip
Mike Szczys
[ "Arduino Hacks" ]
[ "arduino", "breakout", "ftdi", "seeeduino", "usb" ]
We think of the Arduino as a rapid prototyping tool but we never thought of it as an FTDI breakout board before. [Ihsan Kehribar] wrote a quick post to show how it’s done . You’ll find an FTDI chip on Arduino boards that have a USB connector. It’s used to handle the USB communications on one side, and TTL serial communications on the other. The serial pins from the chip are mapped to the UART on the AVR chip, and in turn they appear on the pin headers for easy connections. Just load up a really simple sketch(available from Ihsan’s post) to make sure the processor doesn’t get in the way and you’ve got yourself an FTDI breakout board. If you happen to have a Seeeduino there’s even more functionality as the board has a selector switch that allows you to choose between 5V and 3.3V levels. This doesn’t hold true to the newest generation of Arduino , as those board have replaced the FTDI chip with an ATmega8U2 . That’s basically and ATmega8 with native USB handling… fancy. [Thanks Marcus]
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[ { "comment_id": "194000", "author": "addidis", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T16:50:07", "content": "Dont be confused though, the newer method used by arduino is far far superior. But give it some time to be out and get worked on before you judge it. Once people realize what is possible using a usb enabled micro instead of an ftdi and write the OS code to utilize it you will see what I mean. Hands down the new method is better. And im not afraid to speak my mind if the facts did say that they did it purely to make clones more cost inefficient to produce, but clearly that is not the case considering they are open source, left the bootloader in and clearly did this for other reasons.But pertaining to the post any usb enabled chip can do this. Its called a CDC class device, and is a serial emulator. So the usb enabled micro in the UNO can EASILY be made to do the same thing if you understand USB. It can also be made into a MIDI device, quite easily. In the end youll see its a really really good thing how theyre doing it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194004", "author": "Pedro", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T17:05:50", "content": "There are four solder pads on Duemilanove boards right next to the FTDI chip (silkscreen labelled X3). Guess what they’re connected to.You can use these pads to burn (bit bang) a bootloader to a chip without the need for an external AVR programmer. (Seehttp://www.geocities.jp/arduino_diecimila/bootloader/index_en.html)@addidis, MIDI is the start – your Arduino project could be detected and used as a HID/Mass Storage/Multimedia Controller/etc./etc.COM ports are so last decade!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194008", "author": "loren", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T17:47:30", "content": "This is outright rape! j/k", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194049", "author": "addidis", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T17:52:16", "content": "@ pedro totally agree. Im just trying to use something people will know and understand. Options are limitless.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194074", "author": "Alex", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T19:03:21", "content": "Brought to you by the DUH! dept.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194099", "author": "M4CGYV3R", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T20:06:00", "content": "Yes, let’s use a $40 proto board for a $4 chip.Or you can just order some of the FTDI chips and learn to use them raw.http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=768-1007-1-ND", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194138", "author": "Osgeld", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T20:26:18", "content": "yea if you jam some wires in the parts marked 5v and ground you can use it as a 5 volt power supply too", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194211", "author": "cde", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T00:07:55", "content": "@ Macstupidleetnamedude. If you already have it, soldered and ready to use, why spend an extra 4 + shipping + board etching + soldering time? Cause you just need to be a hardcore internet tough guy, dontcha?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194217", "author": "JA", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T00:25:30", "content": "Yeah, I don’t get this “FTDI vs. ATMega8U2 on Arduino good or bad?!” thing either.. I do get the point with Arduino and why it’s useful, but in the end it’s just a protoboard. Someone could even say it’s THE protoboard. But..Once you have done your prototyping and take the next step, you decide what connectivity is on the board and what chip does what. You can even use FTDI with Uno, its not like the most expensive thing people connect with Arduino, now is it?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194246", "author": "scienceguy8", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T01:52:46", "content": "@JAI tried to sum up the ramifications of using the ATMega8U2 as opposed to the FTDI here:http://www.gilberti-industries.com/2010/10/02/arduino-uno-and-its-usb/Really, though, it only puts an extra burden on clone-producers who wish to use the ATMega8U2 in their future designs. The average hacker building his or her own Arduino-compatible clone for his or her own personal use remains completely unaffected.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194255", "author": "Osgeld", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T02:32:40", "content": "I am not on the side of good or bad, I just think their selling point on it is a bit weak“if you know what your doing you can reprogram it …”well, why wouldn’t I just reprogram it and skip the whole board + other microcontroller, it is an ATMega8 on there…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194257", "author": "JA", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T02:41:02", "content": "@scienceguy8So there are rational arguments with this “debate”. It looked like spoiled end-users are just nitpicking :DThanks for the comment and link.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194388", "author": "Jim", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T07:08:06", "content": "I’ve been using this to flash 360 drives for ages. I’m a fan of Arduino, but this just seems to be an excuse to mention them again, anyone who’s ever owned or even read about the Arduino should know this already.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194421", "author": "charper", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T08:12:55", "content": "Yeah, I’m actually curious about that on the new Arduino. Anybody know the VID they used? Did Arduino get their own? If so, how are the clones going to handle that?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194482", "author": "Reggie", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T11:21:14", "content": "Pretty sad post, no wonder people bitch about arduino hacks being on here. Thanks for pointing out I had an ftdi chip on my Arduino, I never would’ve noticed :(How can you do an article on the arduino + FTDI and leave it to a user to post about the X3 pins and programming any Atmega via bitbanging….What does arduino uno bring to this this party? Poor quality control and no ftdi? worth mentioning then?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194638", "author": "medix", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T15:57:31", "content": "This is like buying a Porsche just to get the oil out of the crank case..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194664", "author": "Defex", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T16:42:18", "content": "Wow I did that to program a rainbowduino ages ago. I didn’t know that I was a Hacker!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194732", "author": "Spork", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T18:15:48", "content": "@DefexYou’re obviously a hacker, you used an ARDUINO! Even if it was only to steal the FTDI chip.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194776", "author": "Eirinn", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T20:00:04", "content": "You don’t need the bitbang method if you have 2 arduinos you can link them together and use the first to burn a bootloader on the second :) Heck with a little breakout you probably just need one arduino and a breadboard.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194833", "author": "Osgeld", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T23:13:54", "content": "“”Heck with a little breakout you probably just need one arduino and a breadboard.””its 4 wires yea its not hard", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "884049", "author": "rodrigo diana", "timestamp": "2012-11-16T19:20:53", "content": "Thx, man. Very usefull post!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "2447728", "author": "Jdiggily", "timestamp": "2015-02-21T06:02:33", "content": "the link for this project is broken :-S gutted!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "2890454", "author": "ArcadiaLabs", "timestamp": "2016-01-19T16:38:12", "content": "http://web.archive.org/web/20110207183541/http://students.sabanciuniv.edu/kehribar/?p=19", "parent_id": "2447728", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "6188433", "author": "anon", "timestamp": "2019-10-20T01:55:34", "content": "the level of idiotic arrogance in this comment section is amazing. get a live, nerds.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,359.227773
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/09/pulling-data-from-the-im-me-spectrum-analyzer/
Pulling Data From The IM-ME Spectrum Analyzer
Mike Szczys
[ "Wireless Hacks" ]
[ "cc1110", "girltech", "GoodFET", "im-me", "michael ossmann", "spectrum analyzer", "travis goodspeed" ]
https://hackaday.com/wp-…807945.jpg?w=470
A small, cheap spectrum analyzer with an LCD can be a fun thing to play with. But to be truly usefully you need access to raw data, and lots of it. [Travis Goodspeed] set out to make that possible by pulling data with a GoodFET and a Python script . He started with [Michael Ossmann’s] IM-ME spectrum analyzer , which uses a CC1110 chip. The two of them are giving a lecture at Toorcon 12 (called Real Men Carry Pink Pagers ) and this will be used as a demonstration device. After studying the datasheet he found the starting RAM address and did some further work to deciphered how the data is stored in it. From there it was a matter of working out the timing for grabbing the data, and coding a method for storing it. Now he’s looking for brave souls to help him trailblaze with this newly-discovered tool. It seems that if you know what you are doing, and have abundant patience, you can use this for a bit of old-fashioned reverse engineering.
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[ { "comment_id": "193983", "author": "addidis", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T15:40:46", "content": "Nice work travis! wish i could make it to Toorcon 12", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193993", "author": "Rollyn01", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T16:12:53", "content": "Spectrum analyzer, logic analyzer, terminal interface… and it IMs?? I think it’s safe to say that this thing might just be the next multi-purpose hacking tool of choice… even if it is pink. lol", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194174", "author": "Ulrich Lukas", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T22:53:58", "content": "I think this qualifies as a hack ;-)Brilliant.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194278", "author": "B", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T04:02:59", "content": "has anybody got two IM-ME to talk to eachother? It be an interesting way to save money on SMS.I checked the spec sheet for the usb dongle and the IM-ME, they both use the same embedded System on a chip, that includes an embedded data radio transmitter/receiver.You can turn the IM-ME into a ‘walki-typyee’, and the dongle into a repeater… kinda like CB radio for text.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,359.167249
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/08/beefy-battery-backup-still-running-after-a-decade/
Beefy Battery Backup Still Running After A Decade
Mike Szczys
[ "home hacks" ]
[ "backup", "battery", "stove", "ups" ]
In 1997 [Michael Butkus Jr.] found an uninterruptible power supply in the dumpster. The batteries were shot, but he needed a backup to keep his pellet stove running for heat, drive the exhaust fan to keep the smoke out of the house, and power his computer and other electronics. After a bit of head scratching he decided to beef up the UPS using deep-cycle batteries . He actually built two of these. One is smaller, and similar to what we’ve seen before . The other is larger and uses four batteries, two pairs in parallel which are then connected in series. He’s careful to use heavy gauge wiring and 50 amp fuses for each battery, both of which will protect against the risk of fire. One thing we found interesting is that the batteries are stored in the basement, directly below the UPS which is connected via a short run of 12 gauge home electrical wire. We were happy to see that he’s done updates at the top of his post over the years. He lost a few batteries due to neglectfully letting the water levels drop too much. He did switch over to sealed automotive batteries sometime in 2004 or 2005. Looks like things have been going strong ever since. [Thanks Spencer]
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[ { "comment_id": "193656", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T22:12:18", "content": "The batteries are the only things that have to fail in these.Prior to 1992 or 1993, the batteries were US made, and many of them lasted almost seven or eight years (if lightly loaded) before bulging and suffering the various forms of battery death. Unbelievable. I know of one unit that lived for almost 10 years.Just after that, battery manufacturing moved to china, and the lifespan dropped to 3 years or less. Then, as if chinese made electrolyte wasn’t cheap enough, they moved battery manufacture to india. Lifespans dropped to 12-15 months, and I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the electrolyte was produced via bilogical methods. Absolute trash.The units are being produced in Thailand and China again, and have started getting better again.But seriously, I have UPS units that were built in the early 1980’s that are still running with periodic battery changes. They’re inefficient, have mediocre capacity and take up too much room, but they’ve been running in an outbuilding in the northeast for almost 2 decades.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193658", "author": "Remarknl", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T22:24:00", "content": "japanese batteries are usually pretty good in my experience.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193662", "author": "sp00nix", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T22:38:58", "content": "Here is my UPS. not quite as big. I do plan to add some more batteries to it tho.http://sp00nix.com/files/IMAG0217.jpg", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193663", "author": "Sanyo", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T22:39:05", "content": "yes, japanse batteries are the best.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193679", "author": "milkman", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T23:06:21", "content": "Did the color transition of going from this page to his page make anyone else’s brain bleed.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193687", "author": "Peter", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T23:14:46", "content": "This is almost exactly how we do it at work for our low-cost server UPS. (We also have a backup generator, but apparently our marine batteries will last ~4 hours so we haven’t had to fire it up).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193692", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T23:41:33", "content": "Very very cool.I got about 7 years out of a very similar setup.Good times!GREAT HACK!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193696", "author": "Leigh", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T00:18:08", "content": "Plenty to choose from here:http://www.google.com/search?q=ham+radio+battery+backup— big systems, small ones, solar ones, etc.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193711", "author": "Kevin", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T01:07:59", "content": "If the author of the web page is reading this, please(1) make your background colors less painful on the eyes,(2) correct the factual errors in your power calculations (a 700W UPS can deliver 700W to a device at any given instant, it’s a measure of force. This has nothing to do with a 10-minute capacity, the unit for that is watt-hours and measures work.)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193716", "author": "James", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T01:21:17", "content": "I’m not sure that a 50A fuse on a 12 gauge wire is going to do anything. I think the standard is to put a 15A fuse on it, but I’m not too sure.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193728", "author": "pablo", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T01:53:11", "content": "I’d recommend sealed deep-cycle marine or computer backup batteries. Automotive batteries are usually shallow-cycle, which is pretty much completely wrong for use with a UPS.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193731", "author": "onlinepharmacy", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T02:02:35", "content": "you’ve done everything, haven’t you bilbao bob", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193744", "author": "Masta Squidge", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T02:46:22", "content": "I would not exactly trust 12 gauge wiring with 50 amps..http://www.buiten.com/page.php?pgId=12That is a pretty solid chart to go by. Even for solid core wiring, he should be using at least 6 gauge for safety reasons.If it is only like… 6 feet, then 8awg would be fine.But thats just me. Household wiring @ 12 awg is only rated to 20 amps.Aamperage is amperage. 20 amps at 120, and 20 amps at 12v have very little difference in terms of heat generated by the wire.But 50 amps @ 12v is a TON more current than 20 amps at 120. Even if the wattage is vastly different.There is a reason you need much larger wire in 12 volt systems than you do in your walls.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193745", "author": "Masta Squidge", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T02:52:05", "content": "@james…a 15 amp fuse on a 12 volt line would blow when the draw exceeds 180 watts. Likely the actual voltage will be slightly more than 12, which gives you some headroom but.. even assuming 13v that would not be nearly enough of a fuse. That would be unacceptable.Which leads me back to my previous post.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193762", "author": "0x4368726973", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T04:17:21", "content": "The point is in case of overload, you WANT the FUSE to MELT, not the wire. Thus, bigger wire should be used. On my 12v stuff, I preffer going even bigger when practical to save resistive voltage drop. AT 120AC, a 1V drop in the wiring is hardly going to be noticed, however when it is at 12V. (Remember ohms law, V=IR, for the same power [watts], same wire [ohms] your current is lower, thus less voltage drop. This is why the high tension lines run in the thousands of volts – less “wasted” power heating the lines.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193786", "author": "Osgeld", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T06:20:29", "content": "agreed, 0x", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193858", "author": "rcx", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T09:31:25", "content": "I think the 12 gauge wire is from the UPS to the house, so it would be carrying 120V, not 12V, and hence much less current.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193862", "author": "John Shep", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T09:38:01", "content": "Yes it will def be carrying 120V.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193863", "author": "incognito", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T09:38:01", "content": "The article stated the heavy gauge wire and fuses were between batteries, not out to the load.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193974", "author": "madbry", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T14:57:59", "content": "Something about spewing hydrogen gas from charging batteries and open flames from a pellet stove makes me think this is not a good idea.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193975", "author": "Endo", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T14:59:05", "content": "Anybody seriously thinking of doing this should look into Golf Cart batteries, they’ve got very high Amp Hour ratings, and they’re deep cycle.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193985", "author": "KC2PHO", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T15:53:48", "content": "@milkman yep", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194080", "author": "Chris", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T19:19:31", "content": "Nice hack, well documented. Had a discussion about this technique recently on another forum. Few people realize the potential for switching to better batteries in a UPS, so it’s good to see this getting some more attention.Sealed auto batteries only work if you’re very careful to limit the depth of discharge. Even one deep discharge can destroy them, or reduce their capacity severely. Regardless, they can be used successfully for a long time with some caution if you require relatively short run times.Deep cycle marine batteries are a much better option. As for the watering issue the author reports, the reason auto batteries are sealed and maintenance free is because they have a catalytic converter inside that converts the oxygen/hydrogen gas released from charging back into water.You can get retrofit caps for deep cycle marine batteries which include the same converter, and can greatly reduce maintenance. They work best with moderate recharge rates; fast charges will overwhelm the converter and cause gas release (which occurs even in a “sealed” auto battery). An example product is the “Water Miser” Battery Cap.Another alternative may be a battery auto-watering system. I haven’t used these and don’t have a reference handy, but I do recall seeing one some time ago.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194100", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T20:07:07", "content": "@onlinepharmacySadly, the answer appears to be yes.It’s not like ADD is a new thing, is it? There are thousands of people like me. We’re useless to society for anything long-term, but we’re just bright enough to figure out how things work and make something happen. We’re Hackers.I may have worked in a bunch of fields over four decades, and I may have learned a ton of science, math, psychology and the classical arts along the way, but I still think of myself as an uneducated hillbilly hick mechanic who is generally lonely except in a room full of drunken scientists and mathematicians.All I think about is the stuff I haven’t done yet.I’m at least halfway to expiration, and I have yet to sleep with Paris Hilton, or visit Afghanistan, or figure out how to get myself above FL850 before I die. But I’ll keep trying.What are you doing with your life?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194125", "author": "Ben", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T20:11:16", "content": "“They have hydrochloric acid in them.”No, they don’t. They have sulfuric acid in them.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194147", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T20:48:19", "content": "If you want a really, really long lived battery and don’t mind the absolute penalty for going off the reservation when it comes to efficiency, you can construct nickle-iron batteries. Nobody makes them here, as far as I know, but they’ll be back. They were all the rage a century ago.They don’t work that well in the cold (ability to supply current drops off as temps drop off), they charge like snails on sandpaper [actually a good thing], and they suck at supplying high currents. Finally, they also don’t hold a charge for that long… Let them sit for a few days, and you’ll wonder where the voltage went.Now for the cool part – they will take abuse like nobody’s business. You can treat them like an inner-city 8th grade teacher, and they’ll just keep working until someone puts a bullet through the glass.Seriously – these things have staying power. I’ve seen nickle-iron batteries more than 40 years old (I think, anyway) that still produced measurable voltage, although they were disconnected from discharge circuits.So in summary: Nickle-Iron batteries areRugged, low/no maintenance (decades), have tepid output currents compared to size, can be ovecharged and run down repeatedly but will recover with time.The only limit I can think of is that you have to monitor the charging current if you want the best efficiency/lowest charge times. Otherwise, you can just boil them with charging current and live with the consequences.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194248", "author": "Sheff", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T01:58:27", "content": "My eyes are bleeding!!!!! But a nice hack.!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194358", "author": "Masta Squidge", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T05:43:41", "content": "@0x4368726973Are you talking to me?Because I am pretty sure we are on the exact same page lol", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194375", "author": "Malvineous", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T06:24:11", "content": "I asked APC about doing this once as I have a couple of their older 3000VA units. They said larger batteries could easily overload the charging circuit, so it was only practical with extended-run units which are designed to have external battery packs connected. Instead of connecting up 10 battery packs a couple of big deep-cycle batteries would appear the same to the UPS. Unfortunately at $700 for four batteries this is still on my to do list :-)Also on the page it says never to turn a UPS off when the power is out because it won’t turn on again, to protect you from plugging it into a bad outlet – however most if not all APC units can be “cold started” in this situation by holding down the power-on button for a few seconds so this isn’t a problem for those. (This is also how you discharge the capacitors once you have disconnected the batteries, otherwise it can still deliver a welding-level burst of current even weeks after the batteries have been removed.)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194479", "author": "Scott", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T11:15:04", "content": "The neighbors up the street were throwing out a nice little ADC 600 unit because “the new battery is, like, $100”. Of course I took it home – new battery (tabbed, sealed lead-acid) was $19 shipped from Allied and it’s still working 4 years later and protecting me from Illinois Power’s usual 7am four-second outages.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194582", "author": "wane", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T14:31:54", "content": "One long power outage all I had was a deep cell, 1000 watt inverter and standard automatic automotive deep cell charger.I used them to run a small freezer about 120 watt average load.If your running computers you may still need a power conditioner(Apc). I also don’t know how many deep cells you can add safely.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194727", "author": "Neolith100", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T18:02:22", "content": "Wow, after visiting that site and uncoiling my small intestine… pretty cool idea that most are a little scared to do, sparks and all. But my brain is now a pool of lymph nodes from that webpage design.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194824", "author": "Spencer Haley", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T22:07:46", "content": "Is plugging your UPS into a surge protector bad? I have an APC surge protector for servers, and the red light on the back says Building Wiring Fault.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194831", "author": "Malvineous", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T23:09:37", "content": "@Spencer: Check the APC website, the wiring fault light means something else but I forget what. It is recommended not to plug your UPS into a surge protector but I’ve never heard of a practical reason why, other than it might switch over to the battery for a few seconds when it otherwise wouldn’t have to.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "1683237", "author": "Gerff", "timestamp": "2014-08-02T22:36:00", "content": "You shouldn’t plug the UPS into a surge protector because if the surge protector is a “good one”, they have a filtering system based on induction, and this would mess with the protection and power filtering system of the UPS.", "parent_id": "194831", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "194903", "author": "lambadan", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T02:39:56", "content": "I’m from India. My UPS is made in India. My batteries are also made in India. My UPS is 12+ years old, and the last battery (tubular) lasted 8+ years. Current one going strong. Moral of story, there are good (international std) batteries and bad (backyard std) ones. Choose wisely and you will have a story to tell.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194937", "author": "Fallen", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T04:12:55", "content": "Did a similar hack, used 4 gauge wire wire and a 200A circuit breaker. Although my inverter is 1800W(err supposedly). The main thing is my runs of 12V wire are less than 8″ long. The extra batteries and UPS are mounted in a cabinet. I don’t like the idea of wires like that being left on the floor. IMO the batteries should be as close to the inverter as possible, less voltage drop too :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196495", "author": "Mike B", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T22:53:14", "content": "I changed the color ! I did this back in 1997 ? Your 14″ screens did not scream color.Both sets of batteries are about 6-7 years old. The lights flicker here in Jersey and just last week were out for a minute. TV and computer just buzzed along fine. The sealed car battery don’t require watering that much.Your UPS is a surge protector, I tell pellet stove owners that all the time.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196497", "author": "Mike B", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T22:58:16", "content": "Oh, I did this page with Netscape Navagator.. that’s how old this page is !", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,359.532146
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/08/reddit-hacking-for-votes-and-profit/
Reddit Hacking For Votes And Profit
Mike Szczys
[ "Misc Hacks" ]
[ "captcha", "reddit", "script", "social engineering", "spam", "upvotes", "votes" ]
Looks like someone figured out how to game the Reddit system. This probably has been done before, but as far as we know nobody’s actually shared the methods in detail. [Esrun] wrote some scripts that allow him to register multiple accounts and use them to up-vote stories . The hack goes something like this. A script registers a group of accounts. Each uses a different IP and the only part that requires intervention is typing in the Captcha. This doesn’t take long. You can see the script interface above as well as a demonstration video after the break. Once the accounts have been acquired a story is submitted and the new accounts vote on it. They’re not all up-votes though, as having both up and down votes puts the article into the controversial section of Reddit (which is desirable), and doesn’t rouse as much suspicion from the moderators. He ran a few tests that he shares and it seems that as long as the article is interesting, this can be quite successful. Great, more spam with our social media please. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c3SboR4uco] [Thanks Joseph via Reddit ]
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[ { "comment_id": "193628", "author": "dawg", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T21:14:00", "content": "Yeah, thanks HAD. Was three paragraphs really necessary for this drivel? This isn’t even exciting: Man creates program to register 100+ accounts on a popular social media site, and proceeds to vote up/down any post he chooses.Great, more spam with our hacks please.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "2585169", "author": "joeh classic", "timestamp": "2015-05-29T05:18:46", "content": "http://hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/spamming-reddit.jpg?w=800", "parent_id": "193628", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "193632", "author": "Concino", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T21:26:43", "content": "@dawg,This still is a hack when you look at it as Information Systems perspective. IT Security folks already know that these type of hacks exist. When you look at it as a social media perspective to promote a product you might not see its significance.What if someone created bunch of accounts that is associated with a particular region, and start sending updates for example saying that they’ve been attacked by zombies?I am glad HAD is bringing this up and giving perspective to more people may or may not aware of these type of hacks.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193633", "author": "JD", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T21:27:25", "content": "“it seems that as long as the article is interesting, this can be quite successful.”Isn’t that the entire point of Reddit? More interesting articles are closer to the top? Doesn’t seem like he needed all those accounts or scripts to make interesting articles rise.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193635", "author": "YaBa", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T21:32:03", "content": "hmm… seems that people on Digg are having too much time on hands :D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193639", "author": "YaBa", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T21:43:41", "content": "@dawg: security through obscurity never worked.I cannot trust a site where faking can be made.anyway… reddit UI sucks so… :P", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193642", "author": "Spork", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T21:46:11", "content": "@JDI think a less-interesting article that gets pushed to the top is more likely to be read than a very interesting article that doesn’t get read because it was piled under ‘hacked’ articles.@HaDThis is not really that cool. I’m all for hacking things together, breaking security, and generally causing chaos… but when you are just scripting votes? That’s just cheating.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193647", "author": "JD", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T21:57:31", "content": "@SporkInteresting…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193649", "author": "dizturbd2", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T22:00:21", "content": "Its only a matter of time…somebody didn’t think this through before they decided to release a video :Phttp://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/doq9e/reddit_hacking_for_votes_and_profit", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193654", "author": "NatureTM", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T22:06:54", "content": "This is a hack, but not one that belongs on HaD. The thread that usually ties the articles on HaD together is that the articles make the reader say, “that’s really clever” or “I would like to try that.” This may be a little clever, but I don’t think most people here would want to try it. I think HaD readers do the things they do for a sense of accomplishment, and doing this would certainly make most of us feel the opposite.This belongs either on a vulnerability disclosure site, or in the mailbox of the Reddit administrators.Still <3 you tho.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193677", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T23:02:04", "content": "@YaBaReddit UI sucks? How’s Digg v4 working out for ya?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193697", "author": "M4CGYV3R", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T00:21:21", "content": "The background music totally sounds like the cheesy cuts they set to play automatically in the background of many keygen programs.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193699", "author": "FU_mrbabyman", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T00:29:58", "content": "I pin the blame on damn MrBabyman.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193760", "author": "CAPTCHA", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T04:02:42", "content": "Surely something like thishttp://churchturing.org/captcha-dist/could be used to break the reddit captcha?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193789", "author": "PapaMac", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T06:39:38", "content": "I hope that the scripts are released. Reddit seems to be the same as Digg – unless you have enough friends to give your story the initial push, it won’t go anywhere… regardless of how good it is!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193791", "author": "taky", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T06:42:58", "content": "esrun always pubs good shit, this is a great method to gain initial exposure in a shady but not illegal way, ++$esrun;", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193795", "author": "Good Blogger", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T06:50:37", "content": "This only proves that reddit’s structure is vulnerable. An article doesn’t need to be genuinely interesting to sit at the top, like this guy’s proven. Nice work.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193796", "author": "LabGurl", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T06:50:43", "content": "Although this isn’t a hardware hack, I don’t mind seeing some more software hacks on here. We had wep cracking the other day and as a big user of Reddit, I’m actually interested to see how people are gaming it. Although I may not agree with what this guy is doing, at least he’s showing roughly how it’s done.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193806", "author": "benzy", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T06:59:30", "content": "Really good stuff. Some sophisticated methods for effective hits!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193809", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T07:05:40", "content": "@dawgits a hack your using something to do something that its not intentionally designed to dothis interests a fair amount of people and if oyu dont like it shut the fuck up and dont fucking click on it you are still getting your hack-a-day now every one gets at least something they like@HaD good job you are finally reaching all audiences keep it up", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193819", "author": "TheCatAndBag", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T07:45:00", "content": "It felt a bit ironic reading a story on Reddit about reddit being gamed, wondering if it had been gamed itself to be there. At least Reddit will hopefully tighten up protocols now. I always submit cool stuff which gets downvoted into hell and then I see the most stupid stuff hitting the homepage. Now I know why.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193832", "author": "Downvoted_syndrome", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T08:22:56", "content": "There was an updated reddit thread where the guy gave feedback on what he was doing –http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/doizk/regarding_the_who_said_people_arent_really_gaming/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193846", "author": "Mav", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T08:59:46", "content": "This isn’t a Hack ! Traditionally back in the 80’s when the terms were truly defined and before hacking entered the conciousness of the electronics hobbyists a hacker was some one who kludged or hacked code together for the likes of demo’s.This is more in the realm of the Cracker who traditionally broke security on software for piracy reasons, hackers ended up being mistook for crackers and got a bad name that even now isstill perceived as a bit dodgey.Unless we are having Crack-a-day id say this post is not only irrelevant but also detrimental to the hacking community@ConcinoThis is a crack , by definition he is cracking (by breaking or bypassing) the sites security for nefarious reasons.this sort of confusion is what gives hackers a bad rep", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193849", "author": "ryall", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T09:05:01", "content": "Yeah I found this post interesting too. All you “pure” PIC programmers go and read the posts that interest you and quit spewing your shit all over the comments whenever a project doesnt fit into your tiny niche, or has the “absolute gall” to use an arduino. No one does indignant quite like you guys.Don’t bother replying, I lost interest in what you had to say a long time ago. But I’m getting real sick of wading through the crap while searching for comments that have any relevance to the article.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193947", "author": "nobog", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T12:57:55", "content": "Has the guy paid for this post to get some publicity?Maybe someone hasn’t shared their exact method of gaming this one website but the technical method is extremely generic, used by all kinds of spam programs.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193959", "author": "flarson", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T13:38:51", "content": "This has a high probability of failure. The Reddit community is pretty vigilant and will likely notice that upvotes are originating from zero day accounts.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193989", "author": "Whatnot", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T16:04:14", "content": "If you have control of hundreds of IP’s this is trivial, but who has that? Botnet guys and companies but not the ordinary man, unless maybe you are IPv6’ed?Anyway you see the same on youtube and such places too, it’s all a bit pathetic, if you cheat at least use your pals, maybe from a forum like 4chan or something, so at least real people are doing it not a lame script.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194058", "author": "0x41", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T18:24:08", "content": "We’ve known it can be done for a while, and the comments that were posted here:http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/djxhq/gaming_the_reddit_voting_system_twitter_is_just/c10r83kare much more interesting from a technical standpoint.I pm’ed back and forth with the author for a while, and after showing that I had no malicious intentions, he showed me some of the source code.It was much more advanced than what this guy is doing, not only in scale but in anti-detection counter measures.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194150", "author": "Mr. BabyMan", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T21:01:59", "content": "@FU_mrbabymanOh please, accept some responsibility yourself.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194207", "author": "dawg", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T00:00:39", "content": "@biozz, Try typing legibly next time.I also implore anyone who feels so vehemently about others’ opinions, specifically criticisms, to read this:http://plover.net/~bonds/stupidresponses.html", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194522", "author": "JDoe", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T12:12:36", "content": "@Mav, stop laming about with hacker/cracker talk.A hacker deals with networks, he/she may be black or white hat. (group example: Chaos Computer Club)A cracker is a person cracking copyright protected software for fame &/ money. (group example: Core, Phrozen Crew)…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194917", "author": "ragegnome", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T03:11:01", "content": "Don’t learn to HACK!HACK to learn!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195111", "author": "Brad Hein", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T12:13:44", "content": "And the point of all that work is to… Have your story at the top of the list. Sounds like someone lives a sad sad life.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "197175", "author": "Simon", "timestamp": "2010-10-15T05:37:59", "content": "Teehee, the first frame at 0:54 contains the IP and username uncensored, which is then covered up quickly after. “Logging in using Lidyawijaya:Ag27F6C3 via 74.86.0.184…”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "1038982", "author": "ejonesss", "timestamp": "2013-08-11T11:48:11", "content": "what is the incentive for voting up/down the stories?2 reasons i can think of.1. stories in the top stories list on the front page (like slyck does) are in order of replies in their forum last replied.so if you dont like a certain story because the headline contains some sexually or racially offensive word you may want to vote up the other articles to push the offending post to the bottom and off the list (slyck.com only shows the top 8 discussions).2. like above you can also vote down a post so lets say you get a bunch of accounts and vote down the sexually or racially offensive posting until it falls below and off the top rated list", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "2482945", "author": "ghjgj", "timestamp": "2015-03-17T21:39:09", "content": "http://imgur.com/01s45Qm", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,359.357026
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/08/add-supercaps-to-your-exercise-routine/
Add Supercaps To Your Exercise Routine
Mike Szczys
[ "classic hacks" ]
[ "ATmega128", "bike", "exercise", "super capacitor", "supercap" ]
Many exercise machines generate electricity as you pedal or climb in order to run the on-board electronics. Unfortunately if you stop or even slow down too much the juice will die and your exercise program will reset. Wanting to improve on this gotcha, [Mike] cracked open his exercise bike and added some super capacitors . On the circuit board he found an ATmega128 was in charge of the user interface. He probed the board a little bit and couldn’t find how it was connected to the power regulators. After some additional snooping he found it has its own SOIC regulator separate from the ones that run the display and peripherals. He takes us through the calculations he made before choosing his parts. What he ended up with is a set of three supercaps in series that add about two minutes of juice before the levels drop and the chip resets. The design of the board helped a lot as the high-load electronics (like the LCD screen) are on a separate power bus than the processor.
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[ { "comment_id": "193542", "author": "djrussell", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T18:32:47", "content": "“Many exercise machines generate electricity as you pedal or climb in order to run the on-board electronics.”They do? I sold treadmills, bikes, and ellipticals for a year or so and all of them took batteries to run the display.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193545", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T18:39:53", "content": "The treadmills we have at work do indeed reset if you step off them for a bit. Sometimes I’ll come back from refilling my bottle at the drinking fountain and everything has reset. However, I highly doubt it has anything to do with capacitors, because the treadmill is plugged into the wall. I’m sure the reset is just a timer, not an actual brownout.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193547", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T18:40:48", "content": "Whoa, batteries? I’ve seen bikes you have to plug in, and I thought that was a pretty poor design… Hopefully they lasted for awhile! No backlit displays I imagine.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193563", "author": "djrussell", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T19:07:32", "content": "they weren’t as nice as life fitness stuff. mainly nordic track and proform. we rarely had to replace them but they were also usually C or D cells, 2 or 4 of them.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193569", "author": "hmm", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T19:18:29", "content": "“Unfortunately if you stop or even slow down too much the juice will die and your exercise program will reset.”Never ever had this. Ever.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193583", "author": "bogdan", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T19:25:50", "content": "Oh, is this just so you could take longer breaks from your exercises?I do have say, I’ve never met any of these machines that didn’t use batteries or got plugged in.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193597", "author": "DarkSim", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T19:39:11", "content": "I used to use some exercise bikes at JMU that were physically plugged in. Even then if you step off for more than like, 30 seconds or so, it resets your statistics/session. Not a hard reset like we typically think. Guess they program them to time-out ; and think that the user is done exercising, which is unfortunate when you get really far in one of the pre-programmed scenarios. :(", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193601", "author": "andres", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T20:01:56", "content": "i’ve seen a few excercise machines powered by the workout. a few ellipticals and rowing machines. blank screen, pedal for a few seconds and *beep*. stop for a few seconds and they turned off.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193614", "author": "vonskippy", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T20:30:28", "content": "Hard to see where the cost/effort was worth the measly addition of two minutes.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193615", "author": "djrussell", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T20:31:00", "content": "correction to my first comment: the treadmills all plugged in. no batteries. one of the ellipticals plugged in too to run the incline motor.i have a H20 rowing machine and the display takes 4 AAs. it automatically turns on when i start rowing. it will reset after maybe 15 sec of stopping. barely enough time to review the workout stats. there are only two wires going to it which i think are for a sensor. no backlight.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193620", "author": "Lion XL", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T20:57:45", "content": "“Hard to see where the cost/effort was worth the measly addition of two minutes.”Maybe not cost effective, but two minutes should be enough to say answer a call, grab a quick drink, review stats, update a log, list goes on. I dont think this hack was intended to super size the thing, but just give you little more time before it reset itself. and if he is keeping a written log( alot of joggers do..) then this should be more than adequate to jot everything down before the screen blanks…..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193621", "author": "Roon", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T20:59:17", "content": "I would love to see someone reprogram a treadmill, I can just imagine a cartoon style incident taking place with the treadmill going faster and faster.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193629", "author": "addidis", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T21:19:49", "content": "We are going to be seeing allot of ridiculously low power devices surfacing soon. No power source , think solar , motion harvesting , flex harvesting material (clothes) impact / piezo harvesting (shoes) . These are all budding tech at the moment.Coupling the budding tech with existing tech (motion , flex and impact harvesting + induction) will lead to interesting things.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193637", "author": "Simonious", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T21:38:56", "content": "@addidisI’m very much looking forward to this and the myriad of hacks that utilize it in surprising ways.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193643", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T21:46:49", "content": "@Roon – lol, I can imagine that…@addidis – ditto Simonious; I almost joined one professor’s research on microgenerators for cell phones and the like. Very cool stuff.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193689", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T23:34:16", "content": "I’ve seen machines like this – the display was backlit by blue LEDs. It used 2 AA NiCd rechargeable batteries and the machine would charge them as you worked out.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193694", "author": "M4CGYV3R", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T00:16:13", "content": "From the headline, I was hoping it shocked you somehow. Just to, ya know…keep you moving.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193751", "author": "Dstrcto", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T03:15:54", "content": "Why did he put them in series?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193753", "author": "Dstrcto", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T03:19:24", "content": "Oh wait, he didn’t", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193754", "author": "Dstrcto", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T03:21:46", "content": "You know what? Nevermind. I just read everything again. I am just tired.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193854", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T09:18:03", "content": "Jane stop this crazy thing!HAAALP JAAAANE!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1rAaHYVUuQ", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194626", "author": "Nate", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T15:35:47", "content": "i think you guys meant he wired the caps in parallel as series would lower the holding capacity", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194636", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T15:53:30", "content": "Actually series is correct – the goal was to increase the voltage which could be stored, despite a loss of capacitance (and technically the energy stored is the same, given full voltage, whether series or paralell is used).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194878", "author": "Ivan", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T01:31:46", "content": "In series??? That would divide the capacitance to ~ 1/3. Ah, well, maybe these caps wouldn’t stand the generator’s voltage in parallel.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195338", "author": "Mark", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T21:08:16", "content": "He put the the three supercaps in series with each other to reduce the capacitance down to 0.83F, but in parallel with the power supply filter caps to increase the overall capacitance.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "621391", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2012-04-05T13:20:53", "content": "FYI, the original article can now be found here:http://www.nlvocables.com/blog/?p=261", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,359.459976
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/08/game-boy-printer-usb-cable-and-software/
Game Boy Printer USB Cable And Software
Mike Szczys
[ "Nintendo Game Boy Hacks" ]
[ "attiny45", "nintendo", "printer", "receipt", "serial", "Thermal", "usb" ]
[Furrtek] hooked up his Game Boy printer for use with a PC ( translated ). The two-part hack started with a cable to attach the device via USB. A Nokia interface cable was used as a base to translate the USB signals into serial, and an ATtiny45 microcontroller added to talk to the printer. He did a great job of free-forming the circuit alterations and fitting it back into the plastic USB plug housing.The next step was to write some software. Using VB6 he coded an application that loads in an image, scales it to fit, and allows you to adjust the contrast that the thermal printer produces. For testing purposes he’s reusing old receipts. See it in action after the break. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN-63UAD2G4]
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[ { "comment_id": "193476", "author": "John Avitable", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T17:15:51", "content": "Holy crap, I remember having the gameboy printer with the gameboy camera! Nice work bringing an old gadget back to life!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193486", "author": "Daniel", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T17:31:23", "content": "hahathat is really cool, espacially that Command3 Button in the Program. That’s the way i like to code myself :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193491", "author": "Yeah", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T17:38:25", "content": "@ John AvitableYeah, me too. Back in 3rd grade I had the camera, and the printer. I remember Pokemon used to have an option to take pictures of the characters, and send them to the printer. Oh, the childhood memories.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193496", "author": "pdrift", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T17:46:21", "content": "cool! I’ve wanted to do this with my gb printer since I got it a year ago just to get some use out of it.I gotta try this!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193506", "author": "tyco", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T18:01:03", "content": "Now it’s time to make that Arduino cash register that uses this as a receipt printer!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193509", "author": "Paul", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T18:02:19", "content": "very awesome idea", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193516", "author": "flying dutchman", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T18:07:17", "content": "I allways wanted to have one, GB printer :(I never got…Awesome job to connect it to PC, btw.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193549", "author": "_Matt", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T18:42:37", "content": "I could have sworn they printed faster than that. I used all the original paper printing out pictures from a game boy camera.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193555", "author": "P", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T18:51:55", "content": "“Back in 3rd grade”i feel old :(", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193605", "author": "Dave", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T20:20:42", "content": "The first link on his article is leading to his english version.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193680", "author": "Osgeld", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T23:06:24", "content": "at matt, I think they did, at the trade off of quality (the faster a thermal goes the lighter the print and the lower the v resolution)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193681", "author": "Hiski", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T23:07:27", "content": "English version:http://furrtek.free.fr/index.php?p=crea&a=gbpcable&i=2", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193772", "author": "Brian Recchia", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T05:10:23", "content": "@tycoI actually am inspired by this article to do just that. It really wouldn’t be difficult; one digital output to open the cash drawer, the serial pins to talk to the GB printer, and just use my Square account as a credit card processor. If I wanted to write the whole POS in Arduino, that’d be a lot more complicated, but why do that when you can get a pole display and barcode reader on eBay for cheap and just interface them to a computer?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193882", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T09:47:33", "content": "@Brian Recchia: HAD is really really really great for doing that with me too.:)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194196", "author": "Paul Potter", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T23:49:47", "content": "Impressive, and you can still get the sticker rolls on eBay.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194422", "author": "George K", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T08:16:59", "content": "I have had the same Game Boy Printer sitting in my box of handhelds since 98. Good to see a new use for it. =]I once used the Game Boy Camera, some plexiglass, and a light to create a home animation studio. If only I had a way to port my creations!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194568", "author": "HRPuffnstuff", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T14:09:03", "content": "I’ve worked in the field with Point of sale systems from IBM and remember thinking why the heck does a point of sale system need Windows 95 and a mouse? (Back in the late 90’s) . Keep it simple up front and let the back end systems do all the work I say. Even using a low power 8 bit cpu is enough horsepower for a register if u take out all the fancy stuff and keep it text based.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "198172", "author": "narunetto", "timestamp": "2010-10-17T03:20:45", "content": "@HRPuffinstuffYou couldn’t do that because of all of the inventory crap. It’s all networked", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "6240927", "author": "jonuno", "timestamp": "2020-04-28T18:51:11", "content": "I want to replicate this but can not find that cable for sale. I wonder if after ten years someone’s alive to answer this :)", "parent_id": "198172", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] } ]
1,760,377,359.681919
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/08/bench-supply-with-current-limiting/
Bench Supply With Current Limiting
Mike Szczys
[ "Tool Hacks" ]
[ "ATmega32", "bench", "graphic lcd", "power supply", "psu", "supply", "transformer" ]
This is a bench power supply with adjustable voltage and current limiting . [Sylvain’s] creation can regulate 0-25 volts while sourcing 0-5 amps. Current limiting is a nice feature as it will allow you to test your prototypes to ensure the power regulator you choose will not be over or underpowered. This supply is really a two-in-one. The case has two separate circuits so that you can have different power rails going at the same time. There is a microcontroller involved, but the ATmega32 doesn’t do anything more than measure the voltage and amperage and drive the graphic LCD screen. Two potentiometers are responsible for setting the voltage and limiting the current. [Thanks Sargonout]
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[ { "comment_id": "193461", "author": "willy", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T16:57:57", "content": "Instead of using hooking up a transformer, could you just cheat and use an old PSU?The one i use for my electronics stuff says it can supply 12v 14A, and a -12v 1A (among others of course)… You could use those to get 24v, i’m guessing you’d want to limit the Amps though…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193472", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T17:07:47", "content": "@willy sometimes I want a specific voltage that stock PSU won’t output. I may want to drive some components directly (e.g. LED) without any of the usual supporting voltage drop/current limiting parts (resistors, secondary regulators)Or I may want to control the variables on the fly and find my thresholds before things go to smoke…Nice project, I wonder how much of that empty space he can get rid of and not have any heat issues", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193498", "author": "Haku", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T17:48:28", "content": "That’s a really nice project, it’s extremely handy to have a bench PSU that you can set the voltage & ampage outputs, which is why when I bought one I spent extra to get digital control (just punch in the number), just a shame I didn’t have enough to get one which shows more decimal places on the amps and subsequent watts display.Seeing as the display is user programmed, one addition I’d make to it would be the ability to show watts.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193613", "author": "bogdan", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T20:27:49", "content": "I like your design. I am working(actually thinking) from time to time about building one such power supply. I know the original design, and I do want to make it digital.But most of all I want to make it scalable in voltage and current without needing high voltage opamps.The way to avoid this, both in your design and the one I am working on is to use transistors controlled by the opamps to sink the current from Q5 on your schematic. I’ve used a P channel mosfet and changed some other parts of the circuit.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193638", "author": "ReKlipz", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T21:39:46", "content": "Neat! Makes me want to get back to work on my adjustable switch-mode bench supply (was dabbling with active PFC, although I know that it’s probably overkill).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193651", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T22:02:34", "content": "I had a very cool HP constant current/constant voltage power supply that actually worked all the way down to zero – most can’t get below .7v without going ape. The HP could get to .07v and still use current limiting.Stock PSUs can’t easily be hacked to do this – it requires pretty sophisticated electronics. You pretty much get voltage or current, but not both.In biology land, you can build pretty impressive isolated variable supplies using tiny watch batteries. It’s useful when you want to stimulate nerve cells without damaging them from accumulated bias voltage issues.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193729", "author": "onlinepharmacy", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T02:01:24", "content": "you’re a pretty cool guy, aren’t you bilbao bob", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193746", "author": "Tachikoma", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T02:53:01", "content": "“Current limiting is a nice feature as it will allow you to test your prototypes to ensure [that your breadoard does not go up in flames when you screw up].”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194065", "author": "saimhe", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T18:32:49", "content": "Is the firmware version so important that it must be always displayed?Never saw such a thing in a professional product.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194212", "author": "Dave McDave", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T00:08:21", "content": "@ bilbao bob: I find your posts more interesting than most of the hacks on this site.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194538", "author": "Myke", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T13:15:55", "content": "This device is converting a ton of energy into heat.You could at least have a relay or an SCR to switch between different topologies.Also, you are converting 43V to 32V and that to 5V with linear voltage regulators. Do you realize that converting 43V to 5V actually means that you have a 12% efficiency?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195763", "author": "Drone", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T10:48:02", "content": "@Myke, Sometimes you need a really clean supply. This all linear supply might fit the bill; a switcher would be far more efficient but far more complex (if not impossible) when trying to achieve the same performance.I agree with you however, I would have dropped in a separate transformer for the low voltage. Cheap little wall-wart transformers may do fine.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195900", "author": "Myke", "timestamp": "2010-10-12T19:37:17", "content": "Far more complex, impossible? Are you serious?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196211", "author": "Syd Kahn", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T12:15:56", "content": "http://freecircuitdiagram.com/2009/05/11/variable-power-supply-using-switching-regulator/How to limit the current though?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,359.739811
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/08/turtles-all-the-way-down-40-propeller-mcu-skyscraper/
Turtles All The Way Down, 40 Propeller MCU Skyscraper
Jakob Griffith
[ "Microcontrollers", "Misc Hacks" ]
[ "MCU", "parallax", "propeller", "skyscraper", "stack" ]
Why bother interconnecting 40 Propeller microcontrollers one on top of the other? For the power that comes from parallel processing of course! [Humanoido] put the setup together for a total of 1280 ports, 640 counters, and more all running at 6.4 billion instructions per second for the low low price of 300-500$ by our count . The “skyscraper” even comes complete with software and schematics, promising developers the ability to expand or adapt for any venture. Why would we need such a setup in the first place? For any of the following: vision tracking/modification, artificial intelligence, advanced robotic control, or more. Related: [Humanoido] loves putting MCUs together, check out one of his other creations the Basic Stamp supercomputer . [Thanks Logan996]
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[ { "comment_id": "193371", "author": "osgeld", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T13:51:28", "content": "Okay?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193375", "author": "Matt R", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T14:03:18", "content": "We missing a video or any links?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193377", "author": "Yann Vernier", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T14:03:36", "content": "Except it’s a poor design for *any* of those uses. But I guess that comes with the territory when Parallax is your only hammer. Try a pile of XMOS XK-1 for something usable?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193385", "author": "dragonfli", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T14:21:46", "content": "Your alt-text is showing~", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193387", "author": "delta", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T14:30:52", "content": "He seems to have tons of projects like that, and he never shows a real use or application for them (except of having several BASIC stamps beep synchronised), or did I miss something?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193391", "author": "Alex Rossie", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T14:47:40", "content": "Love it", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193398", "author": "MV", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T15:17:04", "content": "Hear ya, Delta.. My hoax-bells started ringing on seeing the video of a previous project mentioned above. I always like to not-judge-too-quickly (although i sometimes do) so I tried finding anything that would prove authenticity. All I found was more bells going off. On the most recent page he has a link to the schematics. But it never was meant to be a link; “..”I wouldn’t buy one before demanding (and getting) concrete proof", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193399", "author": "MV", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T15:18:55", "content": "“..” = {font = “blue}..{/font}designed not to work", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193405", "author": "Brad Hein", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T15:36:44", "content": "This is so cool!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193407", "author": "lwatcdr", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T15:39:11", "content": "Actually it kind of reminds me of the Connection Machine super computer.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connection_MachineMake it a hypercube with fast interconnects and it could be kind of interesting if you are interested in really fast integer performance.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193444", "author": "Leigh", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T16:21:13", "content": "The interconnect and routing was the valuable part of the CM1; the processors themselves weren’t that interesting.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193459", "author": "peter", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T16:56:15", "content": "The interconnect is the really tricky part — A few years ago, as a for-fun project to learn Verilog, I implemented something like the CM1 direct from Danny Hillis’ specifications in his dissertation, in a Xilinx FPGA, but I didn’t finish the interconnect. I added in a picoblaze processor as a serial console to access the processors, but always thought it’d be neat to feed it over ethernet or USB. I was able to fit about 256 of the 1-bit processors with about 50% utilization on a spartan 3e starter kit, but intuitively since the processors in Hillis’ dissertation are essentially 1-bit ALU’s with some addressing, I felt as though the density could be vastly improved and much of the gate count was likely going into the memory addressing and block ram.i love to see folks these microcontroller clusters, and it’s even more impressive when they build some simple software demonstration to go along with them. i’m not sure that it has any particularly useful applications other than as an academic persuit, but that’s more than enough! :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193462", "author": "Slanesch", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T16:58:14", "content": "Got to agree with Leigh on this one. 1 bit at a time isn’t all that great. I’m so glad things got cleaned up in the later versions.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193464", "author": "Slanesch", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T17:00:05", "content": "@ peterThat is pretty epic man! could i see the schematic?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193492", "author": "Micah", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T17:40:09", "content": "So, it’s just slightly faster than one of these:http://www.gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=227which is just slightly smaller than 1/4 the size of one of the boards he’s using.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193494", "author": "jeditalian", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T17:43:12", "content": "this reminds me of the time i interconnected 42 pentium cpus and ok bullshit but: 6.4 billion instructions per secondwhat is that like Gips or Bips?and how does this differ from 6.4ghz cuz no comprende señor", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193523", "author": "Leithoa", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T18:12:17", "content": "The real question is how many FLOPS does this thing put out?@Jeditalian6.4 billion instructions per second is 6.4GIPS.Hertz are cycles per second as you’re probably aware. In computers only a certain number of operations can be executed in any one cycle of the clock, dictated by their bit rate(32 or 64 for personal computers). Newer desktops operate in 64-bits at their clock speed eg; 3.6GHz 64-bit.Now each segment of code has a size associated with it, so moving a data from one section of the RAM to another may require 4 bits to accomplish it. So you can do this operation 16 (4/64) times per cycle. Since your CPU goes at 3.6 billion hertz you can move that data around 57.6 billion times per second. Moving it counts as one instruction,so if all the computer did was that move operation it would operate at 57.6GIPS.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193557", "author": "lwatcdr", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T19:00:01", "content": "@Leigh @peter Maybe you could use the COGs for IO and the inter connects and use the same hyper cube design that the CM-1 used.Just for fun mind you. Not really a good system.PS peter wow on the CM1 on an FPGA Well part of one anyway. Very cool. Right up there with the CRAY-1 on an FPGA.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193705", "author": "cantido", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T00:55:50", "content": "@leigthoaWtf is a bitrate?? The amount of instructions per clock is determined by design… I.e pipeline design, availability of execution units…@articleMakes no sense. Has zero real world use.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193737", "author": "humdum", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T02:23:18", "content": "I’d bet he compensates the lack of coding (or any real) skills by making these seemingly complicated designs with no real life use. Sad :(", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193755", "author": "peter", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T03:39:28", "content": "@Slanesch: by schematic do you mean the Verilog code? I just used a stock Spartan 3E starter kit (although I had hoped of one day making a board full of FPGAs for some fun connection-machine-like and other experiments).if you’re a verilog and xilinx person (the control processor is a picoblaze), feel free to e-mail me. the code is a few years old and it’s somewhere in the middle of development (by a person learning verilog), and i’m in the last few weeks of writing my own disertation so i can’t devote any time to it/cleaning it up, but i might be able to just zip it up and send it off for purely academic interest?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193761", "author": "Leithoa", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T04:16:56", "content": "@cantidoI’m assuming that comment was directed to me, so:Bit rate probably isn’t an accurate description, but what I was referring to was the chip architecture. From a simple perspective, Personal computers are either 32 or 64-bit machines depending on age. So again in a simple model every clock cycle they can execute 32 or 64 bits worth of instructions,4 or 8 instructions respectivly. This model is ignoring hyper-threading, pipelines, memory tricks and other speed enhancing techniques.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193797", "author": "Anonymouse", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T06:51:26", "content": "No. That is bullshit. x64 gives you twice as many general-purpose registers (and each holding 64 bits instead of 32), twice as many SIMD registers, and a lot more address space.Read the wikipedia article.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194139", "author": "M4CGYV3R", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T20:26:31", "content": "@Anonymouse:Did you read the datasheet on those prop chips? Each of them has 8 cores with simultaneous instruction processing. This thing can move a buttload of data.It can only run at a max of 80MHz, but it can process more than 53 times the instructions per cycle of the highest-end Intel i7 6-core monster.Even allowing for 4-opcode-per-cycle SIMD operations on all 6 cores, you still perform more than twice as many operations on this prop tower.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194702", "author": "walt", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T17:31:35", "content": "AnonThe individual processors on the Prop are actually not that powerful by themselves. Due to their design they top out at around 5 MIPs at 80Mhz if you are running a C program. If you code a assembly program(which has to be less than 2k total size) you can achieve 20 MIPs performance. A $6 ARM basically beats the Prop like a cheap drum.If you want to play around with real parallel processing check out the Xmos processors.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194818", "author": "Anon", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T21:51:01", "content": "Leon, Is that you again????", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194823", "author": "G2", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T22:02:34", "content": "He called it UltraSpark o_0 … seriously??? I wonder if he’ll call his OS Solariss…Interesting – but I would be more impressed if he had built it with some actual purpose or task in mind…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "206102", "author": "Prime Time News", "timestamp": "2010-11-01T06:13:53", "content": "1 Propeller, 8 Cogs, 200MIPS, 32 I/O pins, HUB 32K, Cogs 16K, 200MHZ clock, low cost, programs easy, loads of new features, tons of support, good choice. cheers.. ptn", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "292033", "author": "steve", "timestamp": "2010-12-28T17:51:14", "content": "With friends like Humanoido to make it look stupid, the Propeller chip does not need enemies.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,359.820257
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/07/playing-piano-with-optical-sensors/
Playing Piano With Optical Sensors
Mike Szczys
[ "Musical Hacks" ]
[ "atmega16", "cny70", "i2c", "midi", "optical", "piano", "pianoteq", "sensor", "twi" ]
[Sebastian] is trying to improve the responsiveness of an electric keyboard. He was unsatisfied with the lack of adequate sensitivity to keystroke. The first step in his process was to measure how fast the quickest keystroke actually is. By setting up an LED and phototransistor and taking some measurements he found that sampling at 1 kHz would be more than adequate. With initial testing complete he ordered some CNY70 transmissive/reflective light sensors that can be place below the keys. He measures the sensor with the ADC on an ATmega16 microcontroller. Running at 16 MHz he can sample each of the eight analog-to-digital converter channels at 1202 Hz. After doing a bunch of math he put together some lookup tables that are used to translate the ADC data into midi signals. We’ve embedded a video of one sensor controlling the midi program PianoTeq. [Sebastian] also sent us a schematic of one node in the sensor network (see it after the break). When everything is said and done he plans to use eleven ATmega16 microcontrollers to address the 88 keys, with an additional microcontroller to act as the master using a two-wire interface for communications. Update: [Sebastian] put up a webpage with a fairly verbose description. Reading it straight from the source really clears up a lot of questions. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUHbq3j0ObE]
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[ { "comment_id": "193083", "author": "Remarknl", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T21:14:01", "content": "I love the Music A. i never thought about opical sensors in this application. nice system to detect shocks because its fricton free..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193104", "author": "anonymous", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T21:52:12", "content": "“use eleven ATmega16 microcontrollers to address the 88 keys”Eek. Wouldn’t it be a lot simpler (and cheaper) to use one or a few microcontrollers, and an external multiplexing chip?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193107", "author": "Thijs", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T22:10:21", "content": "Could you post a link to his research? I’d love to see the math in his hammer model.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193117", "author": "goldscott", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T22:40:22", "content": "@ThijsHe’s sampling at a constant rate, so all you’d need to do is take the derivative (difference) of each “distance” measurement to get velocity.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193137", "author": "Sebastian", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T23:39:20", "content": "@goldscott: That is the most simple thing one could think, but didn’t only measure the velocity of the key. What I do is using this velocity to calculate the velocity of the hammer when it strikes the string.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193205", "author": "frollard", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T04:13:58", "content": "Easiest simple way to sample velocity on a keystroke is to have 2 slightly different spaced sensors — the first triggers the interrupt to start a timer, the second, microseconds later tells the signal the velocity (time between 2 points). No complex components, no pressure sensitivity, no adc.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193233", "author": "pRoFlT", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T05:51:23", "content": "When the video started i thought. That is so easy to do, why would you build that. Until i saw the velocity change how the piano string sounded.So you actually read a profile of the input voltage? And then send MIDI commands out. nice.I managed to get a labview app with a USB-6008 and a photo cell to get the hammer effect working. But i bet your lookup table is better then mine.Now if i can do midi out from labview i would be set.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193271", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T08:33:40", "content": "That’s pretty darn elegant.I also thought it was something a bit simpler at first but it is definitely not something simple.(at least to me)I like it!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193294", "author": "diago", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T10:09:43", "content": "If you haven’t already worked it out:http://sebi.g3th.net/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193295", "author": "md", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T10:47:44", "content": "I’ll need to have a closer look at this when I’m at home, but my initial thoughts are that Open Sound Control might be a less restrictive protocol than MIDI on the ADC data – i.e. is the 128 steps provided by MIDI enough to capture the subtleties of the system?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193321", "author": "smoker_dave", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T11:24:04", "content": "The photo reflective sensors don’t seem to be wired correctly..For the NPN phototransistor output, the emitter should be grounded and the pull up placed on the collector..Also it is good practice to put the resistor at the anode end of an LED. It makes no difference physically but most people do it like that.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "467253", "author": "Wiesolator", "timestamp": "2011-09-29T11:12:00", "content": "This circuit is correct, the NPN-Output on a Optocoupler is without potential to his input.", "parent_id": "193321", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "193327", "author": "KeyboardFan", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T11:37:22", "content": "Neat idea. Any thoughts on how you would implement aftertouch using this approach?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193353", "author": "blue carbuncle", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T12:22:37", "content": "It would be easier with some of the methods listed in Electronic Music Instruments. Even though the book is old, it really simplifies the keyboard grid and has several ways to up the scan clock. Good on him though to take 6 microcontrollers to do the job of one without reading.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193456", "author": "Sebastian", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T16:51:15", "content": "@md: I know that the capability of the MIDI proctocol is quite poor and I’d like to have more precision for the velocity. But my synthesizer only supports the 127 MIDI velocities and I don’t know if there are any good synthesizers that would benefit using Open Sound Control(OSC). But I have to admit I do not know much about OSC so maybe this will be a future thing ;)@smoker_dave: The wirering is perfectly fine. I used that setup to spare one wire, as the anode of the LED and the colector of the PT can share one pin. If I used the resistor at the colector I would have an inverse signal and needed one more wire. Have a look at this application note:http://www.fairchildsemi.com/an/AN/AN-3005.pdf@KeyboardFan: Actually I already had some unwanted aftertouch when testing it on my piano. I solved it by calibrating the sensor so that the maximum ADC voltage is reached when the key slightly touches its felt stop. If one can live with a reduced precision or uses an ADC with more resolution you can use the felt compression zone for aftertouch effekt. But thats certainly the last thing I’m gonna implement as I don’t have a synthesizer that benefits from aftertouch.@bluecarbuncle: I decided to use 11 atmega16 controllers because they’re cheap and my physics engine runs fast enough to calculate the 8 ADC channels at their maximum sample rate. Of course there would be bigger controllers or muxed adcs that would simplify the circuitry and maybe even reduce the costs, but I wanted to create something that everyone can build without having SMD parts to solder.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "669918", "author": "ElAngeleior", "timestamp": "2012-06-05T15:47:33", "content": "Very cool proyect", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,359.874304
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/07/an-interesting-take-on-wep-cracking/
An Interesting Take On WEP Cracking
Mike Szczys
[ "Wireless Hacks" ]
[ "aircrack-ng", "crack", "linux", "password", "penetration testing", "screen", "turbogears", "wep" ]
[Ben Kurtz] is doing a little WEP cracking but in a bit of a different way than we’re used to. WEP cracking makes us think of war driving; driving around with your laptop open, looking for WiFi access points, and stopping to run some software when you find them. [Ben’s] way is similar but different in one key way, he’s using an iPhone as the frontend. This started as a way to find a use for some leftover equipment. He threw together a Linux box and loaded up Aircrack-ng , the software we often see used in penetration testing . To remove himself from shady-looking activities in public he coded a web interface using the Python package Turbogears . It uses screen, a program often used with SSH to run services concurrently in different terminals, with the option to disconnect without stopping the processes. Now it’s just a matter of parking the hardware near an AP, and doing the work in a browser on your mobile device. You can check out the script he wrote, as well as installation instructions, in his post linked above. [Thanks Tech B.] [Note: Banner image not directly related to this post]
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[ { "comment_id": "193062", "author": "Bunny", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T20:20:11", "content": "I used to do something similiar before the iPhone came out. Had a symbian phone with Wifi.and use putty for symbian. Would set up a ad-hoc network with another wireless card in my laptop. So the main wifi card was free to do what you wish.The ubiquity of SSH!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193066", "author": "Ib", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T20:25:42", "content": "It is a very nice idea, however I thing this could have also been done with VNC.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193077", "author": "404Usernotfound", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T20:58:22", "content": "…. seriously? Already been done.http://hackaday.com/2010/08/18/make-iphone-a-penetration-testing-tool/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193084", "author": "Kris Lee", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T21:17:52", "content": "Those crooks never stop learing new tricks.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193088", "author": "Alex Rossie", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T21:25:27", "content": "This is retarded.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193111", "author": "Maave", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T22:24:51", "content": "404Usernotfound knows the real deal: do everything straight from the iPod, no laptop required.On that note, does anybody know of a similar setup for Android devices? All I see are a lot of “it would work but nobody ever compiled it” posts.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193112", "author": "Stealth-", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T22:26:22", "content": "So, what, the computer system is the one doing the actual wireless data gathering from the AP? Seems a little useless to me, honestly. I mean, do people really think twice about someone on a laptop in a car? I know I wouldn’t.It is interesting, though.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193119", "author": "barry99705", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T22:43:10", "content": "Wardriving has nothing to do with cracking networks.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193157", "author": "pepep", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T01:36:15", "content": "aircrack-ng installs directly on my nokia n900.. just sayin’.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193185", "author": "viperware", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T03:15:18", "content": "Most people have no preconception of WEP cracking OR wardriving, so y’all have nothing to worry about.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193244", "author": "gjgj", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T06:26:38", "content": "yep its retardedespecially the newcommers who believe its gunna work by just loading up some toolif you dont have amplifiers and good antennas all you gonna capture is trash, fragmentsnot to mention that for doing deauth attacks you have 2be close to the ap as well", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193246", "author": "moo", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T06:37:08", "content": "pff only reason i can think of using this is to not look to suspicious in front of peoples houses while cracking there wep or the more challenging wpa.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193272", "author": "Phil", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T08:33:48", "content": "Neat and all that screen is, this is pretty trivial stuff. I’m surprised to see it here.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193365", "author": "anti", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T13:27:19", "content": "How is this different from sshing into the laptop to do this? You could even restore a screen session from there!?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193446", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T16:23:57", "content": "Shady is as shady does…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193460", "author": "yopo", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T16:56:21", "content": "karma works on openwrt", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193644", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T21:54:14", "content": "Google and now Apple already do this.Every Android device – well, a significant majority of them – is already setup to do something similar. Well, I’m exaggerating a bit, but you’d still be interested.When you use the data capacity of your phone, your phones equivalent of a mac address, along with your GPS coordinates AND a list of all the ESSIDs of the visible wifi networks in the area are uploaded regularly.It used to be that only the cellphone providers had this data. Now google and apple have it.If GPS isn’t available, the cell tower triangulation algorithms are used. As a distant third, they can use already mapped ESSIDs – and since this has been going on for a while, that map is already pretty darned complete.Why is this important? Because now google (and to a lesser extent but pulling up into the #2 spot in a hurry) has THE BEST AND MOST COMPLETE universal database of ip address to actual location mapping in the world.Oh, and your real identity information, even though that isn’t being openly sold. Yet.Rest assured – you’re already tagged, bagged and about to be slagged. I don’t actually know what slagging is, but for my purposes it means that you and all your relationships and interactions with other people will be available for instant recall and cross-reference.Is that totally cool, or what?The future is pretty damned rad!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194052", "author": "Jorge", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T18:09:09", "content": "VNC client, ssh client, or native aircrack tools do this better, easier, and faster and have a higher coolness factor because you dont look like the chump that poorly reinvented the wheel poorly.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194053", "author": "Jorge", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T18:10:08", "content": "lol said poorly twice. Now im the chump thats too tired to proof read so as not to make an ass of myself.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,360.165421
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/07/automated-chip-burning/
Automated Chip Burning
Mike Szczys
[ "Robots Hacks" ]
[ "arduino", "atmega328", "bootloader", "dip", "pick and place", "programmer", "servo", "vacuum", "zif" ]
[Alexsoulis] needed to burn the Arduino bootloader to a slew of ATmega328 chips. Instead of sitting there and plugged the chips into a programmer one at a time, he build a robotic microcontroller programmer . It starts with the DIP package microcontrollers in a tube, with a servo motor to dispense them one-by-one. An arm swings over and picks up the chip with a fish pump powered vacuum tweezers similar to the pick-and-place head we saw recently. From there the chip is dropped into a ZIF socket and programmed by an Arduino. Once the process is complete it is moved to the side and the process repeats. We’ve reported on using an Arduino as an AVR programmer but we’ve never actually done it ourselves (we use an AVR Dragon programmer). Take a look at the video after the break and let us know if you think the actual programming seems incredibly slow. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPusu0SkN2w] [Thanks Kyle via Let’s Make Robots ]
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[ { "comment_id": "193017", "author": "osgeld", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T18:50:59", "content": "i use avrisp (arduino isp) all the time with my arduino, its 19200 baud and as fast as you would expectyea this is pretty darn slow, so I dunno? wtf?otherwise cool bit of robot action", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193018", "author": "ril3y", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T18:51:32", "content": "Very cool… I love the tubing as a “reel”.ril3y", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193021", "author": "Yeah", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T19:05:32", "content": "That’s actually pretty cool. If I had a lot of chips to burn one day I’d build something similar.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193033", "author": "addidis", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T19:08:21", "content": "very cool , but wow that programs sloooooow I can see where the motivation to design this came from.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193038", "author": "Will", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T19:34:40", "content": "If you break the programming up into two steps you can program at least @ 115200 using an Arduino’s FTDI as the programmer.First you need to set just the fuse bits properly at the slower speed, then you can come back now that it is initialized and do the rest at the higher speed.Will", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193043", "author": "ssh", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T19:47:24", "content": "not very fast but as a set it and forget it i thinks its very well done", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193044", "author": "osgeld", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T19:49:51", "content": "@ willyea but really its 2kb and the bit bang mode requires much more effort than “load sketch add 4 wires”even at 19200 2k will only take like 100ms", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193045", "author": "Slime", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T19:50:01", "content": "The use of English in these story posts has been horrendous of late. C’mon editors, proof read before posting!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193047", "author": "mowcius", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T19:54:13", "content": "Yeah it’s not the fastest thing but it’s not exactly very high risk so it could just be left to get on with it.Mowcius", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193053", "author": "Amos", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T20:04:04", "content": "Actually, it looks like the writing takes less than two seconds, and the slow bar shows the progress of reading the data back to verify. Around 1:50 and after you can read “Reading” to the left of it and a couple lines above that the string “reading on-chip flash data” is visible.Cool robot, though. I wonder how much those cheap Chinese servos were…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193058", "author": "andrew", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T20:09:12", "content": "I’m impressed", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193060", "author": "KC8RWR", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T20:14:16", "content": "Wow! Very nice!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193067", "author": "JustInTimeGuy", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T20:32:59", "content": "SkyNet uses something similar to program its Terminators.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193069", "author": "walt", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T20:37:03", "content": "for those of you with your sound off, it goes like this:……… Toooot! Verrrnt. ChaClick. CHOO CHOOOO! chuga-chuga-chuga-chuga Vernt BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT Veernt weeeerrn Veeernt Plop", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193071", "author": "Masta Squidge", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T20:40:10", "content": "Very nice, the speed does not seem to be that much of an issue, given the fire and forget nature of the setup.Had I the skills to make this, I would have built a better unloading method than just dropping the chip into a foil bin. It seems like it does not lose suction immediately, though the program acts as if it does. Leading to the awkward pile in the corner of the bin. You might very well come back to a pile of chips outside of the bin.Might I ask why he is programming so many? Sales?If so you could easily set up a small conveyor type deal and have it drop them into anti static packaging, then roll them off into a box to be sealed and shipped after. I mean, he clearly demonstrated his ability to create such a system already lol", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193121", "author": "Nitori", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T22:51:22", "content": "One step closer to a homebuilt self replicating machines.Really I should try this as I been wanting to try a swarm robotic project which would require flashing several chips.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193139", "author": "Rollyn01", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T23:54:44", "content": "Would multiplexing be out of the question? I mean, he could load one, and while it’s writing to that chip, add another one and so on. Then go back to the first one to throw in the bin and down the line.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193145", "author": "mosheen", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T00:36:36", "content": "If your servo doesn’t have to hold anything once it has moved, you can set he signal pin to low and it will hold its position, and shut the hell up.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193149", "author": "Rollyn01", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T00:56:26", "content": "@mosheenld idiot, muteld video, shakyset_self vomitset_idiot highOf course, all include files and definitions are in the “wtf.inc” file.Back on track, I really do like. My question is, if he happens to try to optimize the program, will it still work the same or will there be more lag due to the changes?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193198", "author": "neimad", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T04:03:46", "content": "VERY cool. I especially liked the alignment step, where a small servo nudges the chip against a stop, to put it into a known position, ready for the next step ZIF insertion. Well done.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193214", "author": "Alan Parekh", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T04:44:19", "content": "Great idea for cranking out the chips while you go and do something more interesting. Where do the failed chips go?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193243", "author": "elektrophreak", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T06:26:08", "content": "wow very very cool!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193379", "author": "Jean-Claude Wippler", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T14:05:30", "content": "Lovely setup!But for day-to-day ATmega programming, I use a home-grown 4-fold stand-alone programmer. It’s faster because it has 4 burns running in parallel (or staggered, I just keep replacing chips in a round-robin fashion).http://jeelabs.org/2010/06/10/a-happy-ending/For lots more on ISP programming, see:http://jeelabs.org/tag/isp/Still, it’s neat to see this pick-and-place type machine!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193686", "author": "Ugly American", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T23:12:17", "content": "This is useful.The late chip drop into the finished tray could be fixed by turning off the suction before the arm is finished stopping, that would allow the lag from the sucking tube time to let go of the chip & hitting the end stop for the arm would help make the release point more predictable.The finished chips could also be dropped onto a rail made out of anti-static packing tube with the top cut off the last few inches instead of a bin.As ean-Claude Wippler pointed out, adding more burn stations with everything else the same would increase the throughput.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193724", "author": "caff", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T01:34:39", "content": "I think the ‘lag’ in the drop is intentional, it looked messy for the first chip but then I noticed the second bumped up against the first one before it fell off, they will be stacked up in the sequence they were programmed without the need to calculate a new drop position each time.The sequence is important because the system looks like it allows for my than one type of job in the job queue.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195143", "author": "JB", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T14:01:25", "content": "OMG, in the time this machine program a single chip, I could have called my distibutor and have them program the devices before delivery.In the time this machine program a single chip, you could have programmed 2 or 3 using regular methods.In the time it must have taken to build this machine, I could have programmed more devices that you’ll ever need.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195381", "author": "spyder_21", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T22:20:03", "content": "nice project", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "195398", "author": "j s", "timestamp": "2010-10-11T23:03:35", "content": "ASTlab in Hungary built a robotic AVR programmer about four years ago. It is a very robust platform which even has a blinking LED to indicate the robot is cycling. Cycling time is a bit slower, though.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,360.230094
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/07/bios-password-cracking/
BIOS Password Cracking
Mike Szczys
[ "Security Hacks" ]
[ "bios", "bruteforce", "checksum", "laptop", "password", "python" ]
https://hackaday.com/wp-…689572.jpg?w=470
[Dogbert] took a look at the security that goes into BIOS passwords on many laptops. He starts off with a little background about how the systems work. People are bound to forget their passwords, so when you enter a wrong one three times in a row you get a message similar to the one above that locks you out until all power is removed from the system (then you get three more tries). But check out that five-digit number in the picture. That’s a checksum of the password. Some BIOS versions display it automatically, some require you to hold down a certain key during POST, but it’s the pivotal data needed to crack the password. [Dogbert’s] post doesn’t go into verbose detail about the algorithms he uses to brute force the passwords. But he has posted the Python scripts he uses to do so. Learning how to generate the passwords based on the checksum is as simple as studying the code, which is often the best way to learn.
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[ { "comment_id": "192970", "author": "Junkman", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T17:05:21", "content": "I always just flash the bios works using a jumper setting and takes just a minute or 2.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "2751575", "author": "der", "timestamp": "2015-10-13T04:04:47", "content": "hey i have recently come across a connections academy probook 6560b ive had a hard time trying to reset the bios password. i reset the TMP password and stuff so its not going into lockdown anymore but i cant seem to get the bios password off. i tried taking the batteries out i tried default passwords and i even tried some of the tools on heirens boot. theres a bunch of flash tools and password finding tools. i reset the CMOS that didnt help. i really dont know what to do at this point there was someone called mazzif i saw on a bunch of forums/blog sites his tools are specifically for hp pro and elite books but he wants money and i havent found his tools on any freeware sites or torrent sites. it would be great if you or someone on this site could give me some info on what to do from here.", "parent_id": "192970", "depth": 2, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "3241840", "author": "yo", "timestamp": "2016-10-25T05:24:41", "content": "i have the same exact laptop i did the same thing i even used hirens boot tools to flash the checksum n cmos after the reset it still has the password idk how to find it hirens boot also has various brute force methods to find the bios password i let it search for hours with no luck dont bother with the mazzif stuff its junk i got a free copy from a torrent site its not even worth looking into. my guess is besides the cmos theres a secondary memory device of some sort that keeps the password. if you have any info for me or come accross a way around it please email mewe have the same pc its got the i5 2.5gh dual with HTits a nice laptop im just having a hard time getting the battery to detect n it was brand new when i found it i just gotta update the bios since i flashed everything n installed win7 on itim pretty good with this kinda stuff but this has me stumped idk where to go from here", "parent_id": "2751575", "depth": 3, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "4591196", "author": "Female", "timestamp": "2018-05-29T15:36:56", "content": "were you ever able to figure this out?", "parent_id": "3241840", "depth": 4, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "3241866", "author": "yo", "timestamp": "2016-10-25T05:55:50", "content": "please get back to me if u find out anything. the reason i say not to bother with mazzif is cuz all those tools are for hp laptops for consumers what you have is a commercial laptop the 6560b you would find in the store to buy is different than this one slightly different bios n a few other hardware changes the consumer version in stores runs about $450 bucks this commercial one runs at about $1400 its not that the hardware is any betterits just commercial businesses have a higher price for tax purposes not exactly sure how that all works but this pc is not the same as the regular 6560b", "parent_id": "2751575", "depth": 3, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "6149008", "author": "Lexi", "timestamp": "2019-05-14T01:51:38", "content": "Not sure about laptop but I have an HP desktop pro desk from said academy. Had same bios password issue and upon investigation I found a password jumper installed. Mobo two pin jumper printed “PSWD” is now remove – no jumper. Jackpot! now I can boot from USB with WIN7 master (all version) with/without serial needed. I suggest researching your Mobo # and bet you will find success!!!", "parent_id": "2751575", "depth": 3, "replies": [] } ] } ] }, { "comment_id": "192977", "author": "Marvin", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T17:28:57", "content": "When you have a Thinkpad with that damn 24RF04 EEProm you’re fucked. Or you pay some shithead to decode things for you or to get a completely new eeprom file with working checksums…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192979", "author": "xorpunk", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T17:33:39", "content": "looking at the code is easier said than done..most vendors use obfuscation on their .ROM and flashers now days, and in some cases even in the EEPROM itself. A lot of EEPROM makers even have instruction for acceleration and libs for devs.If you have a lot of experience in RCE it’s a piece of cake though. I’ve done some ACPI stuff before doing custom ROM flashing, but they didn’t have security.I think it’s stupid to present RCE like it consists of skill sets easy to acquire..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "192997", "author": "Smilr", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T17:44:22", "content": "I think the idea was to look at the code that dogbert provided, rather than at the manufacturers rom code. Dogbert already has an algorithm for taking these checksums and generating possible valid passwords, but his original post didn’t explain that algorithm. Instead, he gave us source code to study from which we could learn his algorithm.", "parent_id": "192979", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "193000", "author": "RussWill", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T18:04:40", "content": "It was nice to learn that the phoenix implementation of the CRC-16 contains a rather severe bug… Who knew?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193001", "author": "xorpunk", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T18:05:45", "content": "He reveresed the algo from shadowed ROM..it is looking at the manufacturer’s code..on most systems bios boot block pushes the bulk of bios code into RAM, decompresses it and runs it in a in-between addressing mode. There is no way you’ll reverse these algos off frequency analysis or blind factoring on this many digits..Now days though the systems have crypto even in bios, so it is easier said than done. Also I’m not talking about checksums, I’m talking about encrypted code under compression with stub in boot block.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193005", "author": "YHVH", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T18:10:11", "content": "I used to just invalidate the checksum by changing the hashed password on the eeprom, causing it to prompt for a new password. It worked on my old 386/486 computers, probably works now.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "3241848", "author": "yo", "timestamp": "2016-10-25T05:30:02", "content": "i have the same pc i completely flashed the checksum that was the first place i went these connections academy laptops are like fort knoxi wish it was that easy i did that for another computer for a friend he rented it n the rental place locked it down when he missed a payment", "parent_id": "193005", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "193013", "author": "fartface", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T18:41:54", "content": "Why?? simply open the laptop, connect to the chip and blank the password.I’ve done this dozens of times. It’s not hard on HP or Dell laptops, and Desktops are a complete breeze.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "3241850", "author": "yo", "timestamp": "2016-10-25T05:31:00", "content": "no you havent this not to this laptop its not a regular bios", "parent_id": "193013", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "193036", "author": "Nova15", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T19:30:29", "content": "I think I don’t have a fuckng clue what the hell you guys are talking about hahaha! XD", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193070", "author": "NishaKitty", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T20:37:33", "content": "Don’t ever lose your code on a Toshiba, they are hell x.x", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "397512", "author": "Mark", "timestamp": "2011-05-24T13:33:36", "content": "My wife did this exact thing-set a bios password and forgot it. 95% of my business tax information is on the computer- three unpaid years! The IRS doesn’t care one bit so interest and penalties are running.Can you tell me which direction to run screaming? I’ve tried almost all of them. :-(", "parent_id": "193070", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "193073", "author": "DarkFader", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T20:51:14", "content": "@Marvin: try a tweezer attack?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193109", "author": "Maave", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T22:20:09", "content": "Cool, this is useful. BIOS recovery programs have failed on the Compaqs I’ve tried, now for some fancy button pressing to recover the checksum instead.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193123", "author": "logan", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T23:01:36", "content": "hm. i looked at the page and my computer is a hp dv5 and my hash had 8 characters… none of his files fit that even though it says he has an HP one.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193124", "author": "Captain Zilog", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T23:04:16", "content": "I just used this about 2 weeks ago to crack the password stored on a Compaq N610c laptop.Worked perfectly!There are times where removing the CMOS battery doesn’t work, or worse yet, requires nearly complete disassembly of the laptop.This will save you a LOT of time.For Marvin’ Thinkpad above – depending on the model, you may be able to do this yourself.Otherwise, you’re best off buying a pre-flashed BIOS chip for your machine.If you have a machine with a TPM chip… Good luck… Some can be read (read: $$$), others can’t…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193125", "author": "Captain Zilog", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T23:05:08", "content": "@ NishaKitty : Have you tried making a toshiba password dongle (hint : Google is your friend).That blanks a lot of passwords on Toshibers…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193150", "author": "draeath", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T00:57:23", "content": "@junkman:That’s not flashing… not even close.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193211", "author": "Adam Kaminski", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T04:24:59", "content": "I actually had somebody sell me a dell d610 because it had a password on the BIOS and the EU couldn’t remember or figure it out. After a night of googling I found a guy who hooked me up with some info and I ended up taking a paper clip to short two spots the motherboard while I powered it on. The laptop restarted and the password was gone. That was in the summer of 2006 so sorry for the vague details.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193230", "author": "Digital", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T05:46:02", "content": "I used to just take the lithium battery out and wait a second, replace the battery, and voila! Password gone.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "3241854", "author": "yo", "timestamp": "2016-10-25T05:32:37", "content": "ur dumb go away", "parent_id": "193230", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "193267", "author": "Sörn", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T08:17:59", "content": "A friend of mine did it the hard way: Identify the eeprom on the mainboard, dump, modify and then rewrite it… Though it seems the IBM/Lenovo Laptops don’t show the checksum to the user.Here’s the Project:http://das-labor.org/wiki/Thinkpad-EEPROM-Reset", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "470894", "author": "Shaheryar", "timestamp": "2011-10-03T21:37:09", "content": "This link has data which is not in english. Do you know the english version of this website", "parent_id": "193267", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "193270", "author": "xorpunk", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T08:33:24", "content": "Most of this stuff is bob the local PC tech level stuff. The RCE is obviously over most peoples heads..He didn’t figure out the algo by analyzing the displayed code..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193354", "author": "blue carbuncle", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T12:26:01", "content": "@marvin can you not jsut do a BIOS update with the IBM utility and reload the default BIOS? It will probably require a USB floppy drive or boot from USB if that option is possible. May save you some time and money. If IBM doesn’t have a utility, try going to the manufacturer’s website (Award, AMI, etc and get their utility :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193369", "author": "jyfg", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T13:32:42", "content": "doesn’t go […] to brute force the passwords. But he has posted the Python scripts.If he is stupid enough to use python scripts to brute force a password, Id rather not want to know his algorithm…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193468", "author": "Don", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T17:04:32", "content": "Crypto is actually extremely rare in BIOS. But much of it is compressed. OEMs want to use the smallest possible flash parts they can, so compression helps with that.You won’t get all the BIOS, but you can usually dump the 0xF000 segment and get the the ‘runtime’ code at the very least, certainly the password routines are.At least in the BIOS world, there are not standards used for the password system. The details of how it is stored and handled are entirely up to both the ODM and IBV. It is even possible for a separate microcontroller to handle the entire process so even the hash is never stored where it could be dumped.As for the old pull the battery trick, this depends on the BIOS using the batter backed up ‘CMOS’ that, IIRC is part of the RTC. It has become increasingly common dedicate a block or two on the flash part to store nonvolatile data rather than using the battery backed up RTC CMOS. So pulling the battery won’t accomplish much. But it is not that uncommon to have a jumper to clear a system’s passwords.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193480", "author": "xorpunk", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T17:22:55", "content": "Regarding thinkpad: They have a boot block procedure too. If you cant find the recovery procedure you order a new chip for like 10 bucks.Actually IBM isn’t the worse..HP/Compaq is, and their accessible support(forums etc) are beyond useless. Ive never seen a x86 BIOS that didnt have a boot block restore procedure, but they usually work on a IDE or SATA link only.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193610", "author": "Blade", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T20:26:06", "content": "I just pull out the cmos battery and in like 14 minutes with the cord and everything out everything’s at default", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193940", "author": "t&p", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T12:06:47", "content": "GODhttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=bios+master+password", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194159", "author": "mrb", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T21:30:47", "content": "I did something similar years ago. The BIOS password hash is often stored in the 128/256-byte CMOS RAM. I read the password hash from there (/dev/nvram) and disassembled / reverse engineered a couple of BIOS to crack the hash and show a list of possible passwords:http://www.zorinaq.com/bpwd/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "3241859", "author": "yo", "timestamp": "2016-10-25T05:42:02", "content": "its not the same with this pc though its not like i put the password in. its a different bios completely than your regular consumer pc. if you would buy this same model the bios would be tottally different cuz its a commercial pc with alot of security n lockdown features i did everything possible its gotta have a secondary device to save the password other than the cmos i flashed it renumbered it to come up invalid n i flashed the checksum evertything ive used various brute force password finders its crazy this is my bios version n date if you look it up n have any info itd be greatHewlett-Packard 68SCE Ver. F.22, 12/22/2011SMBIOS 2.6", "parent_id": "194159", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "194760", "author": "demonstech", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T19:25:32", "content": "The best way to recover is to just dissemble the whole laptop and de-solder the cmos battery and again solder it… and assemble the laptop, now u can go on.. its a little technical related but the easy method without going for the above method…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "202096", "author": "sp00nix", "timestamp": "2010-10-24T16:16:45", "content": "Awesome! Worked like a charm, Acer, Phoenix BIOS.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "318244", "author": "p52", "timestamp": "2011-01-29T22:01:25", "content": "doesnt work for gateway fx p-172x generating 5 digit code 07340, very disapointed guess i gotta fork up 130 usd to the manufacturer just for a password, cant believe no on has cracked this thing yet.worst thing is i can use the comp just fine but i wanna change some clock settings and i cannot.so it isnt even protecting anything just blocking me from my damn clock settings", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "485243", "author": "Aotpust", "timestamp": "2011-10-20T23:37:32", "content": "I have a Toshiba Satellite A210 – 169, with a bios password when i enter 3 times a wrong password i don’t get a hash code back, do you now what the solution is thx", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "3241861", "author": "yo", "timestamp": "2016-10-25T05:44:07", "content": "not all pc give a hash code after failed passwords it sucks.", "parent_id": "485243", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "1558442", "author": "cnewman402", "timestamp": "2014-06-08T23:15:26", "content": "If this does not work try my tutorial:http://youtu.be/9rNsUeI3kHQ", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "2572381", "author": "IdaingBIOS", "timestamp": "2015-05-18T21:24:51", "content": "@CNEWMAN402Hey, great idea, but what if the Notebook is locked (Sysadmin PW, HDD Pw) and there’s no way to get in? In case of newer notebooks (>2013) there’s no possible way to open the case without damaging it – and killing the warranty.BTW: The algorithm of Dogbert is not working anymore; they changed (Phoenix BIOS) the salt, added some lines to it (add eax, xxx) so there should be an update", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,360.415471
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/07/nyc-resistor-takes-on-the-machine/
NYC Resistor Takes On The Machine
Jakob Griffith
[ "Beer Hacks" ]
[ "drink", "hackerspace", "mix", "nyc resistor", "slot machine", "twitter" ]
Here we are with Episodes two and three (aka, NYC Resistor part one and two) completing the Take on the Machine Hackerspace challenge we mentioned a while back . For the challenge NYC Resistor took an old style slot machine and converted it into a drink mixing deviant; even making the device post a Tweet for every drink. However, it seems to be lacking refrigeration of some kind, could this be the downfall of a potential winner for the challenge? Up next is the Hackerspace Pumping Station: One: do you think they can compete? Is there a particular Hackerspace you can’t wait to see? Let us know! [Thanks Deven ]
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[ { "comment_id": "192944", "author": "Brennan", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T16:13:43", "content": "Weird, I just stumbled onto this from boing boing last night and watched the intro + first two videos of NYC Resistor. A really quality mini-series and I highly recommend everyone to watch it. I can’t wait for the other hacker space videos.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193113", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T22:32:36", "content": "I’ve been looking into making a barbot of my own. This would be a great help if only there were any information on the build at all. What type of solenoids were used? How did they pressurize the containers without contaminating the drinks?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193510", "author": "Matt", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T18:02:21", "content": "Mike, there’s a contact email at NYCResistor. I know the folks involved in the build can’t post certain info about the build until after Vimby airs the series. This is to avoid spaces giving away surprises.Of course, NYCR has a lot of open source lovers and they’d probably be happy to talk shop about their creation. So ask them a few questions and someone will likely reply. Once the Vimby shindig has run it’s course, they’ll probably be able to post some more info about the build.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,360.059978
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/07/upgrading-the-freetronics-twentyten-with-a-real-time-clock/
Upgrading The Freetronics Twentyten With A Real-time Clock
Caleb Kraft
[ "Arduino Hacks", "clock hacks" ]
[ "real-time" ]
[John Boxall] finds himself doing a fair amount of projects that require a realtime clock . He does fast and frequent prototyping, usually using the Freetronics twentyten which is an Arduino alternative that boasts a few features like a nice prototyping area, edge visible LEDs, and Mini USB. What is lacking, however, is a real-time clock. Instead of making another shield type system, he just wanted to permanently add this feature to his board. He shares the whole process is photographed and explained quite well for anyone who would want to follow along.
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[ { "comment_id": "192915", "author": "GZPhreak", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T15:02:32", "content": "fix link maybe to be:http://blog.littlebirdelectronics.com/add-a-real-time-clock-to-the-freetronics-twen", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "192917", "author": "Caleb Kraft", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T15:07:02", "content": "@GZPhreak,Yup, thanks. That’s what it was supposed to be. It is now fixed.", "parent_id": "192915", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "192928", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T15:36:48", "content": "i think this is something that someone should make an arduino board for .. get the SMD version of it use a rechargeable CMOS battery or even use an RTCM that allows manual changing of time and date and add buttons for that", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192930", "author": "John Boxall", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T15:42:46", "content": "Those TwentyTen boards are very good, I was surprised to see that the new Arduino Uno didn’t take on any of the innovations from the TwentyTen.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192935", "author": "Henrik Pedersen", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T15:48:27", "content": "PREPARE FOR ULTIMATE FLAMEWAR EVERBODY !!! 3 neat little arduinos in one row, feed the trolls i say, feed them until they burst in anger !!!lolz…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193034", "author": "biozz", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T19:13:33", "content": "@Henrik Pederseni use both AVR and arduino and if you cant take the fact that you no longer need hours and hours of confusing programing knowledge to make something than something is wrong with you as a person XD", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193103", "author": "Casey O'Donnell", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T21:49:27", "content": "this board is pretty fantastic. i liked their zif socket thing. and agree that the prototyping area is too small.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193381", "author": "asadfvx", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T14:08:40", "content": "the end of arduino???… to be continued…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193763", "author": "Richard", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T04:19:58", "content": "@john, they did take one – the 4th mounting hole!I asked on the adafruit chat why they didnt change the damn massive USB and it was because it mounts better so it doesnt rip off the board as easy when someone yanks on the cable.IMO shorting a shield is more a hazard than being an oaf with the thing.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "1335516", "author": "Jason", "timestamp": "2014-04-08T16:03:15", "content": "Fix link tohttp://tronixstuff.com/2010/10/07/add-a-real-time-clock-to-the-freetronics-twentyten/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,360.111903
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/07/cheap-robotic-hand/
Cheap Robotic Hand
Caleb Kraft
[ "Robots Hacks" ]
[ "fingers", "hand", "PICAXE" ]
[Mazvydas] shares with us, his cheap robot hand . He was inspired by this project , where someone used an Arduino and a glove with some flex sensors to control a pre-made hand. He wanted to go a little more DIY though. He chose a picaxe microcontroller and constructed the hand himself out of twine, some plexi-glass, and some rubber hose. He does ultimately plan on adding glove control as well. Unfortunately there’s no schematic or source code. Maybe if we ask really nicely he’ll share. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2tXNkszbpM] [via Makezine ]
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[ { "comment_id": "192936", "author": "walt", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T15:48:38", "content": "cleaver!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192937", "author": "smoker_dave", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T15:49:12", "content": "Male equivalent to the dildo?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192961", "author": "ENKI-][", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T16:49:44", "content": "This is an old design — I saw variants on this in both _The Robot Builder’s Bonanza_ (second edition, though it probably was in the original as well) and in the excellent _Robots, Androids, and Automatons_. It seems both established and popular, but I’m surprised it has yet to make it into hack-a-day (until now, of course).Maybe this should be filed under ‘classic hacks’?NB: Yes, this is cheap and easy — but the limit to the amount of force you can put out is whatever is lowest, between the tensile strength of the twine, the compressive strength of the tubing, and the actual force of the motors.I have seen some variants that use segmented tubing in order to better mimic the segmentation of fingers, though extra motors are needed to gain the same degrees of freedom held by those segments (not to mention some trickier programming). There are also variants that separate the thumb out onto a separate board, which can be rotated on the yaw and rotated closer to or further away from the main body of the hand, better mimicing the abilities of the human hand and giving the manipulator opposable fingers — pretty important if you want it to be functional rather than just pretty!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192995", "author": "svofski", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T17:42:30", "content": "nice!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193019", "author": "addidis", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T18:53:50", "content": "Yeah nice cheap solution", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193064", "author": "Tanntraad", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T20:21:00", "content": "Reminds me a lot about a project I did a while back :)http://www.instructables.com/id/Simple-Animatronics-robotic-hand/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193136", "author": "Alastair D'Silva", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T23:39:11", "content": "One of our guys at Make, Hack, Void is building a polymorph robotic hand – it currently has 3 fingers and a thumb is planned.Project page:http://www.makehackvoid.com/member-projects/arduino-controlled-robotic-handA more recent photo:http://bobbycerini.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/small-things-how-to-make-a-robot-hand/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193156", "author": "dhon", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T01:26:59", "content": "Schematic? It’s an arduino + 5 servos. Not criticising – in fact I’m a fan of the simplicity. The rubber hose fingers are a nice touch.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193278", "author": "Grovenstien", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T08:59:26", "content": "@smoker_dave “I’ve got hose, I’ve got hose, in different area codes, area codes I’ve got hose!!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193532", "author": "ssturwold", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T18:24:00", "content": "nice!! now you can build an army of them and then can start to build themselfs and take over the world hahahaaaha!! (cue the dark music)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193850", "author": "Mazvydas", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T09:12:52", "content": "Thanks for posting. I was really shocked, that something I have done can be posted on hackaday.If you want the code I can provide it, but, at the moment, it is just servo movements and nothing else, so I don’t think anyone would find anything useful there.And for schematics I would not really know what to post. As it was said, it is only microcontroller connected to 5 servos. That’s it.If you have any questions concerning this robot hand, I would be more than happy to answer any of them. ;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "2961316", "author": "Nad", "timestamp": "2016-03-22T01:18:13", "content": "Hi. Im interested with this. I would like to know what are the materials needed. In your videos, there are some kind of pin that attached the string to the pipe. Also, the top part of the pipe is hollow? Kindly email me back. Thank you.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,360.338214
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/07/arduino-rfid-and-you/
Arduino, RFID, And You
Jakob Griffith
[ "Arduino Hacks", "Security Hacks" ]
[ "announce", "arduino", "database", "door", "lock", "python", "rfid", "security", "tag", "voice" ]
[Matt] has mixed up a batch of two RFID reading door lock systems. While the “door lock” part of the setup has yet to come into existence, the “RFID reading” section is up and running. By using the Parallax RFID readers ( for cheap, remember? ) and an Arduino, [Matt] is able to parse an RFID tag, look its number up in a database, and then have a computer announce “Access Denied” in a creamy “Douglas Adam’s sliding door of Hitchiker’s Guide” kind of way with Python. Good books aside, catch a not as exciting as you’re thinking video after the jump. [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mws0nqkqvGg&feature=player_embedded%5D
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[ { "comment_id": "192890", "author": "smoker_dave", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T13:48:30", "content": "RFID without Manchester decoding is cheating.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192892", "author": "Navic", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T13:56:04", "content": "I did the same thing with an mbed. Here’s the video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lImpS7uuR4Use a high torque servo and neodymium magnets to hold it in place", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192911", "author": "rallen71366", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T14:38:39", "content": "I always thought “If you’re not cheating, you’re not trying” only applied to High School football. Seems to apply everywhere I look, though.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192923", "author": "js", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T15:24:45", "content": "Microprocessing without using all logic gates is cheating.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192938", "author": "walt", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T15:54:57", "content": "why does he have to pass the cards in front of the reader twice to get I response? the ones at work either beep or turn red on the first card pass.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193002", "author": "Sean", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T18:06:16", "content": "Just finished installing… looks fun. I bet I can mess around with this…and @waltKeep in mind this reader cost eight bucks, industrial readers are built quite differently, better, etc", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193051", "author": "JayMan", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T19:57:57", "content": "sorry but i just raided all radioshack stores for there RFID goodness and ended up with ten of them in the south houston area", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193237", "author": "RenderMan", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T06:02:31", "content": "I raided all the RS along 7th ave in Manhatten in August. Scored 5 for less that $50. They are damn useful for doors, beer kegs, anything else where you want some sort of authentication.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193388", "author": "will", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T14:32:37", "content": "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mExBtGzuDNodoing a similar project I saw on instructablesfor our hackerspace door entry, right now it writes cards to eeprom but eventually it will talk to a SQL db and tweet to twitter when someone arrivesjust ran down to local radio shack and found the RFID reader he used:RFID Sensor Module w/ 2 tags ($8.47) item# 2760032", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193467", "author": "brian4120", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T17:04:23", "content": "man, people at RS were so surprised when that “$50” reader was $10…. also one cashier had to ask me what the heck it was…This will probably be the last time I will be in a radio shack.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193707", "author": "bluewraith", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T00:57:19", "content": "Good to people are putting them to good use. I’ve picked up 2 more over my travels.One project in my head is a ripoff from something I read elsewhere. RFID key in a photoframe coaster that has a picture of a CD album on it. Swipe album, play mp3s.@waltThe parallax RFID reader is pretty peppy when it reads. It will continuously pass the ID to the computer. He may not have his code set up to wait between reads, which is why it grants or denys access several times in a row.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193969", "author": "dfasdfasd", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T14:33:44", "content": "Hackaday should have a ‘rfid’ news tag added.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "208718", "author": "Catchra", "timestamp": "2010-11-07T01:50:31", "content": "I like this project but I don’t have a Mac for the audio so I modified the python script a little so it will work for windows without needing flite.If any 1 is interested I will upload the files to megaupload(http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FEKW9243)This will use 2 .bat files and a small program called sounder thanks to Eli Fulkerson athttp://www.elifulkerson.com/In rfid ED.py just edit sounder.bat & sounder2.batto your file. Double click sounder.exe for syntax for the .bat fileNote: this will only work with wave audio filesI will also provide source code and Visual Basic 6.0It is needed and provided as well.If any1 needs to contat me u can reach me on skype my slype name is catchra.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,360.288722
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/06/pyrosphere-at-burning-man-2010/
Pyrosphere At Burning Man 2010
Mike Szczys
[ "Arduino Hacks" ]
[ "burning man", "flamethrower", "music", "pyrosphere" ]
What’s thirty-seven feet tall, has ninety-one flamethrowers, and is controlled by an Arduino? Why it’s Pyrosphere , an interactive art piece at this year’s Burning Man. It lights up the night along to the music in a way that makes us want to set up a lawn-chair and watch the show. You can see for yourself in the video after the break, but you really should have thrown on the LED fur coat and gone to see it in person. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxy8mmiGBjc] [Thanks Erin]
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[ { "comment_id": "192391", "author": "R. Barrabas", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T19:38:35", "content": "There was a large water-filled basin under the display, where flammable gas (propane?) bubbled up to create a flammable foam.The audience was invited to light the wisps of foam and watch them burn from one end to another.One thing I like about BM is that the art is interactive…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192399", "author": "GnomeToys", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T20:02:34", "content": "I was upset I couldn’t make it… again. Last year at Afterburn in FL, somebody had a chain of 10 or so fire projectors rigged to a MIDI controller and programmed to act as a display for their sounds… and 2 years before that in NC at Transformus it was a directly linked set of MIDI drums firing bigger ones off. Gotta love the fire.Also, only one arduino? From most of the projects that get posted here I thought you’d need at least two of them for every flame and 100 more on the UI end just to control it…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192404", "author": "eni_", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T20:09:40", "content": "Reminds me of Arcadia Pyrotechnics; saw them at Glade ’09 (in the UK) and they had some pretty impressive pyrotechnics set-ups.This sphere thing is genius though, looks amazing. A bet many a mash-head spent their time staring at that confusedly.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192409", "author": "Charper", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T20:27:42", "content": "I see the arduino bashing coming.Honestly though – this is a great use for one. This is a one-off thing where fast and simple beats a huge customized engineering effort. Plus I’m sure it’s easy to hide the arduino. Just put it somewhere away from the fire and nobody will bother looking in that direction. :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192445", "author": "Rollyn01", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T21:33:21", "content": "If one arduino is running this, then damn near everyone with an arduino project submission ought to be ashamed of themselves. /confusion_offCan I get a smaller version in my living room? lol", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192467", "author": "andar_b", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T22:29:44", "content": "We played with a flammable foam in Jr. High science class. The teacher showed us soap bubbles made with various flammable gases, that was cool.If I recall correctly, methane from the taps for the Bunsen burners made an interesting ‘sticky’ flame effect, you could light the foam on fire while on your hands and it would wrap around them for a moment. Hydrogen gas from a zinc/hydrochloric acid reaction was more rapid burning, more like a quick flash.He also did two balloons, one with straight hydrogen, one with a 2/1 ratio of hydrogen to oxygen. The same volume total. The hydrogen balloon made a nice bang, but the hydrogen/oxygen balloon was much louder and had a shockwave the whole class felt.He also had a tiny fragment of sodium metal end up in the trash can, and almost burned down the science building when it got wet. Oops :p", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192478", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T22:55:22", "content": "@Rollyn01 not really. It’s no different than telling it to blink LEDs. Just use gas valves/solenoids instead.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192592", "author": "Shazzamy", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T02:01:50", "content": "This is really cool, this was done with only one Arduino? That thing is huge!By the way, does anyone know what song was playing in the video?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192595", "author": "Rollyn01", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T02:04:58", "content": "@ErikOk. I’ll buy that. But you have to admit, the size ratio of this and most arduino projects on here are just sad( size of arduino to overall project size).@andar_bSounds like my science teacher. He blew up our lab when he let some chlorine and hydrogen gas canisters open but didn’t closed them back all the way. Needless to say, once sunrise hit, we had no lab. lol", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192696", "author": "M4CGYV3R", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T05:09:53", "content": "Haiku of Arduino Hatredby M4CWhy torment me so?You are not a good device.Hate the Arduino.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192710", "author": "soopergooman", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T05:54:34", "content": "tsk tsk tsk oh Burningman you’ve lost your way….", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192743", "author": "Wifigod", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T07:52:33", "content": "http://nexusorg.org/category/fire-art/pyrosphere-fire-art/Better link.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192841", "author": "Knightmare", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T11:28:35", "content": "Man, I would love to go to Burning Man but I don’t like terrible music. Can I still go?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192880", "author": "blue carbuncle", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T13:06:45", "content": "So many adults with STDs on drugs. Burning Man is not for me.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192966", "author": "Erin b", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T16:57:14", "content": "@ m4cgyv34I’m the creator/builder of the Pyrosphere. Why hate on the arduino? Let me tell you why I think the arduino is an amazing device that will change the world:A year and a half ago, I had zero electronics/circuitry knowledge. I didnt know the difference between a diode and a transistor! I had basically no code writing experience, with the exception of a little html I had messed around with. I bought an arduino and the “getting started with arduino” book. Just over a year later, I finished the Pyrosphere, with a little help from my friends. The point is the arduino was designed to give the laymen an easy way create microcontroller based electronics. I am the perfect example. I imagine ten years from now, every elementary school kid will know how to use a microcontroller.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192973", "author": "cb88", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T17:20:39", "content": "@Erin BProgramming micro controllers isn’t that hard. You could have just as easily bought an intro to PIC basic etc…If you can program an arduino thats all you can do. If you can write some simple C code from tutorials .you can do much more ARM PIC AVR… you name it.I take offense that you think we should be dumbing down our future children’s education.That said fire is awesome ^.^ and your project is quite cool regardless of how you chose to build it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "193010", "author": "Caleb Kraft", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T18:38:22", "content": "@cb88, Erin B, and M4c,I see this often here. If the goal is FIRE SHOOTING SPHERE, maybe the quickest easiest microcontroller really is the best solution. If the goal was become a top notch microcontroller wizard with a strong foundation and understanding of exactly what is going on, maybe he should have done something more complicated. I guess it all depends on how high priority that piece of knowledge is to the future of the project and his future as a tinkerer.I’m willing to bet if someone sold a flame ball-triggerer, preconfigured to his specific needs at a comparable price, he would have done that and there’s nothing wrong with that.", "parent_id": "192973", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "193056", "author": "Arren", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T20:08:25", "content": "Strangely enough, I did in fact ‘throw on my LED fur coat’ and went and saw nexus :-)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193154", "author": "Volfram", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T01:21:03", "content": "@Erin B: Pay no mind to M4CGYV3R, all he ever does is troll here and tell people they aren’t doing a real hack unless they build all of their logic gates from sand and urine heated with a magnifying glass.For what it’s worth, your pyrosphere is beautiful, and makes me feel inadequate.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193164", "author": "D", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T02:17:06", "content": "@cb88You have to start somewhere. Used to be that kids’ first introduction to programming might be LOGO. Arduino and Mindstorms are on about the same level.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193184", "author": "Erin b", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T03:14:11", "content": "@ caleb Kraft and cb88What I’m trying to say (and you are missing) is the arduino, or any other ultra simple microcontroller, is easy enough that ANYBODY can learn to use it quite quickly. I’m not saying you should work at a level below your expertise, but for someone like me who has an idea, but doesn’t know C, it makes it possible to use a microcontroller. Imagine if everyone could make their own custom electronics easily. A lot more people will start doing it if they can get some basic results easily, and the more people who start using and creating with microcontrollers and electronics in general, the faster innovation will occur.@ caleb“I’m willing to bet if someone sold a flame ball-triggerer, preconfigured to his specific needs at a comparable price, he would have done that and there’s nothing wrong with that.”Sorry, you lose the bet. I only really made the pyrosphere, because i felt like it was a series of things that had never been done before:-91 solenoids off an arduino-3d Persistance of vision flame effects-more flame throwers than on any other single installation at burning manplus I like the idea of a massive behemoth ball of fire being controlled by little begginer’s arduino.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "193368", "author": "Caleb Kraft", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T13:31:09", "content": "@Erin b,I don’t think I was very clear. I’m agreeing with you. The end goal was a giant flaming ball, not to become a microcontroller expert. Awesome project.", "parent_id": "193184", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "193231", "author": "shazzner", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T05:46:49", "content": "This thing seems like the final boss of a japanese RPG. Very, very cool!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193249", "author": "Steve C", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T06:51:33", "content": "Bash away. Arduinos are tools. It’s that whole “When you have a hammer everything looks like a nail” deal that makes people use them for everything. What we needed do was to control a *lot* of flame throwers reliably in short order. In the end we did it with some boards I designed/put together that utilized shift registers and when it came down to it, that entire ball was controlled with 3 wires. Do you realize how many more flamethrowers we could have had because of that?! We UNDER UTILIZED the hardware we had. For a $26 piece of silicon and plastic, I think it was a good fit for the job.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193382", "author": "Volfram", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T14:09:22", "content": "3 pins-91 solenoids… HOW!? What kind of addressing technique did you use? What additional hardware was required to decode the signals?This is deep black magic here.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193411", "author": "Steve C", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T15:47:33", "content": "@VolframShift registers are your friend when you need more outputs than an arduino has.http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=733That’s the chip we ended up using, though not after some setbacks with other chips… In any case there is a built in function called shiftOut() that is used with it. I used it like:void sendData(){digitalWrite(LATCH_PIN, LOW);for(int i = 0; i < TOTAL_REGISTERS; i++){shiftOut(DATA_PIN, CLOCK_PIN, MSBFIRST, frameBuffer.frameChunk[i]);}digitalWrite(LATCH_PIN, HIGH);}The DATA_PIN and CLOCK_PIN I defined, MSBFIRST means that I'm giving it the most significant byte first and framebBuffer.frameChunk[i] is the byte I'm handing to it. For each chip you have you need to send one byte so that's what the for loop is for. Putting the LATCH_PIN low then high is what tells the chips to listen for incoming bytes. There's your black magic ;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193566", "author": "Erin b", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T19:15:06", "content": "@ CalebThanks! Your right.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "194228", "author": "Volfram", "timestamp": "2010-10-10T01:11:18", "content": "@SteveAh, I should have known. Shift registers are great for such if your incoming signal is enough faster than your desired output.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "358718", "author": "jamesb", "timestamp": "2011-03-15T06:36:17", "content": "erin, did you use a multiplexing solution? interested. from across the playa i couldn’t believe what i was seeing.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "359251", "author": "Erin b", "timestamp": "2011-03-15T19:58:26", "content": "our prototype was multiplexed, but unfortunately you cant really multiplex flamethrowers, so we usedshift registers, which communicate over serial with the arduino. The cool thing about shift registers is that you can daisy-chain them almost endlessly!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "1808797", "author": "bucharest", "timestamp": "2014-09-10T18:21:52", "content": "Awesome article.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,360.481844
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/06/solar-powered-wifi-repeater/
Solar Powered WiFi Repeater
Mike Szczys
[ "Wireless Hacks" ]
[ "ap", "DD-WRT", "hotspot", "panel", "rechargeable", "router", "solar", "wifi" ]
For all those times you need to broadcast your own access point where there’s no outlet [Larry] shows us how to make a solar-powered hotspot . He started by slapping a solar panel on the lid of a cigar box and attaching it to five rechargeable AA batteries inside. These power the mainboard from a router which is the perfect size to friction fit in the opening. It has been flashed with a copy of DD-WRT, and set to scan for open WiFi connections. When it finds one it connects and rebroadcasts its own WiFi signal to the surrounding area. He leaves it in the back window of his car and uses it to get on the net during lunch.
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[ { "comment_id": "192339", "author": "leadacid", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T18:26:08", "content": "Neat! I’d be interested to know the physical lifespan the batteries through that kind of charging setup (overcharge, overvoltage, etc?) and then how many hours it gets from that charge.I could use something like this out at my buddy’s farm to extend his house’s wireless signal out across the fields!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192344", "author": "xeracy", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T18:35:50", "content": "hide a series of these with CanTennas on rooftops to create long distance wifi chain", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "1077877", "author": "Sparhawk817", "timestamp": "2013-10-17T17:59:17", "content": "and an omnidirectional antenna too, we could use these around starbucks and mcdonalds’ to cover the entire planet with free wifi. that is, if starbucks doesn’t cover the planet with starbucks’ first.", "parent_id": "192344", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "192345", "author": "fartface", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T18:38:31", "content": "Needs a bigger solar panel. But grand idea.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192346", "author": "Ben Dover", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T18:39:41", "content": "Kinda pointless since you can just power the thing from the car’s 12V bus. And no, a 5W (tops) wifi router wouldn’t drain a car battery anytime soon.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192351", "author": "Manu", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T18:50:17", "content": "Will test myself, I like it", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192354", "author": "Wolfton", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T18:51:23", "content": "So HE’S the guy driving around my cul-de-sac several times a day to leech of the neighbor’s unsecured network!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192375", "author": "Luke", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T19:08:10", "content": "The batteries were my first thought as well. Without a charging circuit you’d have to be careful where you leave that thing sitting around (hopefully in the dark most of the time!).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192388", "author": "cknopp", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T19:33:22", "content": "I bought the DD-WRT flash for a router, and because I asked about the ability to use it to aggregate bandwidth, I was banned from the site.I was able to hook up 3 yagi type antennas to some round DTV dishes, and could pick up literally hundreds of open wifi networks in my neighborhood. The thought of being able to connect to a few dozen or so and aggregate the bandwidth to a single wireless N repeater/router that I (or anyone else in range) could pull 300MB internet was a great one, until I asked about it!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192393", "author": "Standard Mischief", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T19:40:20", "content": "Nice.It sure would be sweet if, when detailing one’s own hacks, you would tell us the type of router, how many amps it draws at 6 volts, The type of batteries (NiCad for a higher non-regulated charge rate or NiMH for the capacity or lack of cadmium?), the rating of those batteries, and the specs of the solar panel.A parts list with prices broken out wouldn’t hurt either.Otherwise this is just a nice post with a picture and another fscking youtube video.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192408", "author": "xeracy", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T20:21:58", "content": "@cknopp – go on….", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192411", "author": "stefan", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T20:28:50", "content": "That does not look like a panel that can charge these batteries, it looks like a single cell which would give you around 0.5V is he really sure this thing charges, i cant believe that.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192421", "author": "projectbluebook", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T20:57:09", "content": "lifepo4 cells would also work, those have an effectively unlimited cycle life if charged/discharged correctly.ideal format is a main/backup pack with a switch to ensure that the energy is taken from one at a time, with a dual charging circuit to charge both packs as needed when light is available.some circuitry to reduce power consumption if both batteries are near empty wouldn’t hurt..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192423", "author": "incognito53", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T21:04:45", "content": "LOL at “your own access point”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192436", "author": "ReKlipz", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T21:26:30", "content": "This isn’t a true repeater, :/. This is really just a bridge of a wireless bridge and an access point(/router). Still, fairly neat and easier to implement than a hardware level repeater.On the battery notion, I don’t think there is much of an issue in the way of charging/discharging. NiMH is fairly forgiving, and with the electronics in the AP, I doubt he’ll run into issues with over discharge. With the solar panel, I doubt he run into issues with overcurrent during charging, and due to the periodic nature of the sun, I doubt he’ll run into overcharging issues either.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192441", "author": "shiffte", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T21:29:13", "content": "I didn’t know ddwrt able to do this. Wouldn’t you rather call this a solar powered WDS endpoint instead of repeater?A repeater doesn’t understand the protocols and works in layer2.BTW If you take the time to build something like this don’t use some crap cigar box but make a waterproof design what you can leave outside.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192448", "author": "Rollyn01", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T21:41:32", "content": "@cknoppI heard that was impossible due to some kind of hardware restriction. So like xeracy said, “Go on…” QQ’n", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192454", "author": "cknopp", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T21:54:37", "content": "I could have accepted such a simple reply from the DD-WRT site.Unfortunately I got shut out.Anyways, I actually left the antenna array in the attic of my old house (still intact minus the router).This is a cool hack, but with cell phones doubling as hotspots now it will not be a necessity for very long!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192463", "author": "ferm", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T22:20:39", "content": "What makes it cool is…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192468", "author": "fdawg4l", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T22:30:17", "content": "Dude, just get a data plan. The cost of parts alone is a month or two of Virgin pay as you go data usb dongle thingee.Other than that, if he’s using wifi during his lunch break then he has a device with wifi to browse with. Run the same script used on the router to find open APs on your browsing device. There, I just saved you 40 bucks. You can thank me later.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192469", "author": "Eric", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T22:31:00", "content": "OpenWRT has multi-wan support, but it’s non-trivial amount of code to tweak and I would not recommend it to anyone without a significant amount of time and experience.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192472", "author": "shiffte", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T22:40:38", "content": "@cknoppI doubt they banned you for asking that. Anyways you can’t really aggregate different connections but you can choose which one to go out on or build a failover link, if 1 wifi network goes out it autoroutes you through the other one.Of course when that happens all your existing outgoing connections will be dropped.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192514", "author": "zypher", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T23:52:56", "content": "@cknoppHe wins the thread if he comes through on how to implement his idea.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192638", "author": "Bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T03:23:33", "content": "@cknoppI assume you want the bandwidth for file downloads, right? If we are talking about bittorrent, it would be trivial to setup N number of routers running dd-wrt with a bittorrent client. They would all connect to N of your neighbors’ APs. Then when you want to download something, a script on your computer will break up the torrent into N equal chunks and give each router a portion to download with no overlap. When a router finishes downloading its portion, it would upload it to your computer. If you want to use this for other protocols (ftp, http,…etc) you’ll need a central router to split up the tasks but most likely you won’t be able to get it to work for all file downloads. For surfing the web, the central router can download the html file, and then break up the various objects in the page to be downloaded by the other routers. So your computer would actually be surfing the cache of the central router. It would work best if the central router continuously downloaded all pages and links X number of levels deep ahead of you as you surf. This wouldn’t be that great for real time internet events (ebay auctions, stock quotes…etc).Having said that, this is probably a quick way to get jail time and get banned from owning technology. Stealing your neighbor’s internet is bad enough. You want to steal from multiple neighbors, and then most likely use their connection to do something even more illegal.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192690", "author": "cde", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T04:59:47", "content": "Xeracy, Wifi range and speed make that sort of improbable. With WDS, bandwidth halves at every repeater. So 54g becomes 27, becomes 13.5, becomes less than b at 6.75. And this is a perfect theoretical environment without interference. Plus lag/Latency.Wifi Client/Wifi AP bridge is just as bad or worse.That said, He’d be better off with like a fonera.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192717", "author": "john", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T06:06:48", "content": "@bob it’s not illegal to connect to unprotected routers. If someone is broadcasting a hotspot it’s their own problem what gets downloaded on it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192776", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T08:59:19", "content": "I agree this project is very devoid of details.It’s cool and all, but the particulars are always a good read.It also opens up the floor for discussions more easily.Still a cool piece though.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192783", "author": "Sigg3", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T09:22:23", "content": "@John: Depends on what country you live in, these days.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192842", "author": "MRE", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T11:32:21", "content": "Yeah a light router like a fonera is a good choice.Ive already done this witha medium folding panel, directly to the router with no batteries. Works great in direct sunlight ;)I had wired a usb cable to the router, to power it off any usb power source aa well.Never posted as it was never packaged up nice.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192846", "author": "jd", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T12:00:05", "content": "Anyone know what the DD-WRT script is which he’s using that does this: “and set to scan for open WiFi connections. When it finds one it connects and rebroadcasts its own WiFi signal to the surrounding area.”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192867", "author": "smoker_dave", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T12:35:55", "content": "I just use my Three mobile MiFi dongle…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192954", "author": "cknopp", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T16:32:17", "content": "The idea I had came from the way that mesh-networking works. I thought if I repeated a 100 hotspots to my home, I could use the virtual mesh wifi cards to attach to all of them, then just pull what I needed.What I have actually found is that I needed a FreeBSD router, and some gentle scripting, and it would have been a done deal!http://www.michaelbrumm.com/how-to-aggregate-bandwidth.html", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192978", "author": "barry99705", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T17:31:30", "content": "@jdhttp://www.addictivetips.com/computer-tips/auto-scan-and-connect-to-open-wi-fi-connections-dd-wrt/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192999", "author": "Trollicus", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T17:48:17", "content": "Hey, I always leave a wireless hotspot open to my neighborhood. I have an old linksys WRT54G (with the power turned up using DD-WRT and some nice antennas so I cover a large area) I limit bandwidth but otherwise leave it open (my internal network has it’s own security) I named it “OpenFree” wouldn’t it be nice if everyone did this?A quick scan of my neighborhood(using a coffee can directional ant) gives me about 13 open unsecured networks anyway.It’s not my job to be a net policeman, this isn’t Nazi Germany or Stalins USSR.I also allow people to walk down my sidewalk in front of my house. There’s even a catwalk running through my yard to the street behind me that is used mostly by children going to school and little old ladies walking to the pharmacy it cut’s through the entire neighborhood and was built in 1941 when people weren’t so paranoid.I hate this “we have to watch everyone to make sure they aren’t doing anything illegal” idea that seems to have spread like cancer through our society. If I choose not to lock my door (I don’t lock my front door by the way and in 40 years I have never had to) thats my choice.If someone decides to be a criminal that’s their choice and they take the consequences. The very idea that I have to secure everything or somehow be liable for others is absurd and DISTURBING, it’s the opposite of living in a FREE and OPEN society and I will gladly fight for EVERYONES right to not be a PARANOID SOCIOPATH.It’s this odd notion that’s driving the new ACTA treaty that threatens to stifle the free flow of information for the dubious notion that law enforcement should have the right to monitor everything you do at any time for any reason without due process(roll over Fourth amendment your dead) I urge all free people to push this direction and not give in to those who wish to alienate us from our neighbors and control the flow of ideas.Nuf ranting.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193041", "author": "J.L.", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T19:38:31", "content": "Not a bad idea.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193130", "author": "Alan", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T23:28:32", "content": "@Trollicus: thank you for the rant, you beat me to it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193144", "author": "Andrew", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T00:29:55", "content": "I would love to buy one of these. How much would you ask for it? Email me please.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193204", "author": "andar_b", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T04:13:01", "content": "@TrolliciousUnfortunately, in the case of leaving your door unlocked (which I do usually as well) is that you will likely pay the consequences if you are robbed, not the criminal.Another example would be your car…if the door wasn’t locked, in many areas the Police won’t even investigate a theft.Sadly, thievery is a fact of life and has been for as long as humans have been forming societies.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "196017", "author": "Yerok", "timestamp": "2010-10-13T01:54:28", "content": "Ethical considerations aside—I took my DD-WRT enabled router after seeing this and stuck it in my car with a 12-v lighter plug. Also, I threw my Linksys external antenna mount on top of the car for more antenna gain. Today, I used it at work and stayed connected to an internet hotspot almost 300 feet from my parking lot. SCORE!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "200685", "author": "bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-22T04:38:05", "content": "add another solar panel and a fucking high db dish in center or all around sides", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "576255", "author": "Sascha", "timestamp": "2012-02-06T02:51:32", "content": "Seems like that setup would lack in enough solar power to provide the router (and potentially modem) with enough juice. I came across this converter designed for remote wifi stations powered by solar, in case it’s useful:http://www.altestore.com/store/Charge-Controllers/Solar-Charge-Controllers/WiFi-Access-Point-Solar-Chargers/c1214/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "2559768", "author": "boskoigic", "timestamp": "2015-05-09T15:44:17", "content": "How much does it cost? I am thinking of building a setup from my home to my second home, with such repeater on the hill in between. Here is a graphical representation of what I am thinking of:http://newplans.net/WiFi/Repeater/imgB.jpg", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "3510314", "author": "arpit", "timestamp": "2017-04-07T06:43:50", "content": "Nice technology, solar powered refrigerator can cool things for us by solar energy.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,360.558003
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/06/mini-pinball-is-all-pixels/
Mini Pinball Is All-pixels
Mike Szczys
[ "home entertainment hacks" ]
[ "cabinet", "hyperpin", "lcd", "mini", "pinball", "pinmame" ]
You won’t find those familiar steel balls inside this mini-pinball cabinet . That’s because [Luis’] latest creation is a fun way to play virtual pinball. The playing field is a 10″ LCD screen with an accompanying 8″ screen in the marquee. Inside the well-crafted case you’ll find a mini-ITX motherboard running HyperPin , a frontend software suite for LCD-based virtual pinball. He’s also using PinMame for the score board that was often provided by a gas plasma display on newer mechanical machines. There’s video after the break, and take a moment to check out [Luis’] other mini-cabinet builds . What’s that you say? No substitute for the real thing? That’s exactly what [Ben Heck] thinks too . [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxPIKYXjX5k]
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[ { "comment_id": "192309", "author": "Entropia", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T17:20:52", "content": "Put Pinball Fantasies on it! :P", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192322", "author": "sam seide", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T17:49:53", "content": "this is spectacular. I was trying to figure out how to do this but it looks like I was beaten to the punch. Congrats on the great build!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192323", "author": "tyco", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T17:51:19", "content": "@entropiawhat awesome software that was. But can an Amiga support dual displays?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192324", "author": "Frenchie", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T17:55:53", "content": "C’est tres bon", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192368", "author": "Tiago", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T18:58:11", "content": "So, where can I get mame roms?Can anyone help me?Very nice mini cabinets he as made!!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192387", "author": "Jac Goudsmit", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T19:27:01", "content": "I noticed on the pictures the coin slot is fake, but if it were real and if I had access to that thing, I would definitely dump some Pesetas in there!Awesome!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192392", "author": "pod", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T19:39:09", "content": "this is ultra sleek, great job!I can imagine throwing in a couple motors with off axis weights and little custom code to have haptic feedback on ball hits :D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192398", "author": "KnightFire", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T19:57:31", "content": "Wow! Sweet! I’m scrapping my miniPinball hack for something that more closely resembles Luis’, totally impressed! :-)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192425", "author": "HacKing", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T21:08:24", "content": "eheh Amazing!!!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192464", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T22:20:46", "content": "Now THAT’S how it should be done!!!Awesome.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192481", "author": "James", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T22:59:17", "content": "Beautiful work! Well done!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192486", "author": "Wonko The Sane", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T23:13:59", "content": "Just bolt a Wii remote inside & bluetooth dongle for real tilt sensing – no need for buttons to tilt the table… ;-)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192497", "author": "shiffte", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T23:37:12", "content": "Does it have TILT function if u hitting, maybe kicking the box? :D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192537", "author": "MS3FGX", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T00:26:33", "content": "I couldn’t care less about pinball, but that is an impressive build. It all comes together exceptionally well.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192751", "author": "SpellingNazi", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T08:20:21", "content": "You mis-typed, it’s HyperSpin, not HyperPin", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [ { "comment_id": "193373", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T14:00:15", "content": "Actually, SpellingNazi, if you’d done your homework, youd’ve realized it actually is Hyperpin… Hyperspin is the frontend that controls a multitude of emulators… Hyperpin only does pinball emus…. which is what he is using. FYI.", "parent_id": "192751", "depth": 2, "replies": [] } ] }, { "comment_id": "192775", "author": "Mike", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T08:57:34", "content": "Pure awesome!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193055", "author": "msc", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T20:07:21", "content": "fake", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193457", "author": "pocket_lucho", "timestamp": "2010-10-08T16:53:25", "content": "Exactly, it´s hyperpin and it´s not fake ;)The tilt functions will come later, I have to finish the machine for this weekend for a videogames convention in Madrid made by game (gamefest)Thank you guys!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "454043", "author": "GeoD", "timestamp": "2011-09-13T02:59:50", "content": "Beautiful job man!! What was the total investment if I may ask?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,360.612208
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/06/pic-programmable-power-supply/
PIC Programmable Power Supply
Mike Szczys
[ "Tool Hacks" ]
[ "18f4520", "dac", "keypad", "pic", "power", "power supply", "programmable", "r-2r", "transistor", "voltage" ]
This programmable power supply is the perfect addition to your bench tools. [Debraj Deb], who previously built a whole house power monitor , designed this build around a PIC 18F4520 microcontroller. The desired voltage is set with an attached keypad, resulting in a digital output on the 8-bits of port D. The port connects to another protoboard with an R-2R digital-to-analog converter resulting in the target voltage. A set of transistors amplifies the current and a power transistor then takes care of the final output. After the break you’ll find two videos, the first walks us through the hardware and the second demonstrates the device in action, along with measurements of its performance. This certainly provides a lot more functionality than an ATX power-supply conversion . Update: A big thanks to [Debraj] who sent us a code package as well as the schematic (PDF) used during testing. We’re having trouble getting the code package up for download right now. Check back later, hopefully we’ll have it up soon. Part 1 [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6XO1oouZm8] Part 2 [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUTZ4zQ2HoA]
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[ { "comment_id": "192270", "author": "Madhur", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T16:15:30", "content": "Neat !Thanks for sharing :)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192290", "author": "Dave", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T16:45:46", "content": "Nice and simple. Might I recommend a buck-switcher version as well?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192297", "author": "Adrian", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T17:03:31", "content": "“003 . . . it is again ahhh close to about . . . ok it is not very close but it is significantly close to 300mV”haha I laughed so hard at this part, this was a great idea with a great implementation, and I like that even without “perfect” results Debraj wasn’t afraid to let us see the multimeter. Props!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192305", "author": "KC8RWR", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T17:15:25", "content": "nice!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192314", "author": "JMLB", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T17:33:19", "content": "Any source and schematics?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192315", "author": "JMLB", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T17:34:14", "content": "never mind just saw the update", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192400", "author": "Martin Meier", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T20:04:03", "content": "next step would be read the output voltage with the PIC ADC for a closed loop self regulation?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192417", "author": "walt", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T20:44:43", "content": "this is going to sound like a silly question, but why does every workbench need some crazy power supply. everything i do runs on 5vdc. so i use a 5v wall adapter and some voltage regulation and im ready to rock. what am i missing here?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192426", "author": "von_neumann", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T21:08:56", "content": "walt:If you only work with 5v, then you are missing the entire analog world.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192434", "author": "Adrian", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T21:24:31", "content": "@WaltI agree with you mostly in practice, but if you are working at all in the analog domain, you are going to need a couple of different voltages, plus negative voltages. This sadly doesn’t cover the negative voltages, but it helps out with generating 15v, 12v, 5v, AND 3.3v, all commonly used voltages, in an easy to use and well designed package.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192470", "author": "Sparky", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T22:31:46", "content": "Aside from the need for voltages other than 5V, (which is for rather antiquated devices anyway; most fun things, like FPGAs, DSPs, etc. run on 3.3V, 1.8V, or even less), an active current limiter is an absolute must for a lab supply.There are a few things seriously wrong with this design. For starters, it looks like he used standard 5% resistors for the R2R ladder, this is a FAIL in itself. An 8-bit R2R ladder has a resolution of 256 divisions, so using 5% tolerance resistors is not only terrible for accuracy, it also means the whole thing isn’t monotonous anymore.There is no gain control around the opamp, which is another huge beginners mistake. The thing is probably oscillating like crazy, but the output capacitance is so big you can’t see it on the scope. This huge capacitance also makes it very slow, as you can see whenever he changes the output voltage.The circuit diagram doesn’t show any kind of current measurement or control.There doesn’t seem to be any kind of power supply decoupling whatsoever.There are far better designs out there, with complete schematics, proper voltage and current regulation (down to 0V and 0A), complete with source code.This guy has a lot to learn, but at least he’s trying.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192596", "author": "error404", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T02:08:40", "content": "@Martin Meier:He’s already using an analog control loop. Using the PIC’s ADC as the only feedback source is much too slow for lots of real loads, and will have very poor load regulation.It’d probably be worthwhile to have a slow control loop via the PIC’s ADC to fine tune the output voltage though, as it appears his accuracy is quite poor, probably due to the R2R DAC.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192654", "author": "Debraj Deb", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T03:46:36", "content": "@Sparky:Yes. I agree that with 5% resistors, the monotonicity is lost (or degraded). Especially at numbers like “0000 0111” to “0000 1000”. I plan to change the entire DAC setup to MCP4725. Its a 12-bit, 5V DAC from Microchip. Using this will give me 3 advantages — 1) the interface is I2C, which will let me use lesser pins, 2) I will have higher resolution (8bit vs. 12bit) and 3)No issues with 5% tolerance resistor :-) This demo is more for a proof of concept.On compensation of feedback amplifier, yes, there are huge oscillations and I have to work out compensation — capacitors in -ve input to output, but did not had the capacitors around, so managed with a large capacitor on the output. Also, I am OK with slow response which I feel is better than overshoot from set voltage.I have provision for current limit. Check the blue color shunt resistor (0.15ohms) that I have on my analog board. I am yet to amplify the current signal thro an op-amp and feed into the controller. That part will be covered in the 3rd part of my video.Power supply decoupling, I have not shown on the circuit, but they are integral part of the hardware.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192695", "author": "Anonymouse", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T05:09:47", "content": "The programmable voltage is pretty cool, but you should really make it a switching supply. Then you can go for MOAR POWAH, like a 100 amp polyphase electrochemical beast, or a 385 Vdc supply with power factor correction, when you want to build a big honkin’ power amplifier (motor control? tesla coil? induction heater?).", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192715", "author": "Martin Meier", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T06:02:25", "content": "@error404thanks for the explaining.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192912", "author": "Tim", "timestamp": "2010-10-07T14:54:36", "content": "I like the idea and all, but isnt a 40-pin PIC18 kind of overkill? Id like to see this done on a PIC12. That would be impressive.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "423448", "author": "Shannon", "timestamp": "2011-07-27T05:21:21", "content": "Was the code every posted? I am interested to see how he setup the button input…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,360.924911
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/06/syyn-labs-glowing-dna/
Syyn Labs’ Glowing DNA
Caleb Kraft
[ "Arduino Hacks", "LED Hacks" ]
[ "art", "display", "led" ]
This beautiful music syncronized double helix was made by Syyn labs. Last time we saw them, they had created that amazing rube goldberg style music video for OK Go . This 100 foot long LED DNA strand took over 1000 combined man hours to build. It took 512 LEDs, 32 LED controllers, 4 Arduinos, 4 computers, over a mile of wire and a very dedicated team, which included [ Eliot Phillips ]. It takes input from beatmatching/VU software as well as a 32 button console or an iPad. You can catch a video of it in action after the break, and they plan on releasing a timelapse of the build in the near future. [youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yN7RBGrmeY]
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[ { "comment_id": "192248", "author": "Fallen", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T15:21:39", "content": ":D cool", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192253", "author": "ftorama", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T15:33:26", "content": "Reminds me of this:http://motion-in-blue.com/media.php?art=1&id=vidnb", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192255", "author": "Johannes Burgel", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T15:38:30", "content": "Looks pretty crappy for that amount of work. What do they need FOUR computers for? A single computer with a decent interface can do this, and also replace the Arduinos.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192258", "author": "pff", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T15:45:18", "content": "what was even the point.seriously who has money for this and goes i know i’ll get loads of lights that look a bit like DNA.i don’t think i will ever understand people who do this kind of thing.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192267", "author": "macegr", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T16:07:11", "content": "It was for the GLOW festival in Santa Monica, there were about 100,000 people and many other light sculptures on the coast so it’s not like they woke up one morning and did this. RTFA", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192293", "author": "Erik Johnson", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T16:50:45", "content": "lol, raver twirling glowsticks in the background.Wish the animations they ran on it were more fluid/variable rate, its a bit too abrupt for me but a cool job nonetheless.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192318", "author": "Nomadiq", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T17:46:46", "content": "I was at Glow last year – awesome fun. I’m now east-side and missed out which is a shame.This might sound nit-picking, but the article clearly says this thing is suppose to represent double helix DNA. From the video, it looks like a single helix to me. DNA of course does have a double helix with a major and minor groove. This thing is not a model of DNA, but a model of a spring. There is a world of difference.N/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192369", "author": "andar_b", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T19:00:01", "content": "Nope, look again, there are two ‘spirals’ intertwined, if you watch the lights you can see it.Now, the PICTURE shows a single helix lit, which is kinda misleading.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192377", "author": "Nomadiq", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T19:09:41", "content": "I don’t see it in the video, but I can’t definitely not see it :) Perhaps you are right.N/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192427", "author": "Ford", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T21:09:48", "content": "It’s very clearly a double helix at 0:03.Are there any details that might explain why it took 4 computers?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192446", "author": "lee", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T21:37:55", "content": "another videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwujRZ8BbPM", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192450", "author": "lee", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T21:44:36", "content": "You can find a few more videos shot by attendees… but what gets me is the concept looks so much cleaner. I’m almost wondering if they would’ve used a different material (like a hollow rod) to achieve a straighter effect instead of gravity…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn3KtJZ99rg", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192461", "author": "xeracy", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T22:18:36", "content": "@ Erik J – Glow sticking is the shit. Met some awesome people who kill at doing it. Beats the kids with LED gloves that are so prevalent today.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192462", "author": "xeracy", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T22:19:26", "content": "also, looks like LED ball poi, not wrapping glowsticks :D", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192474", "author": "pickleweasel", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T22:44:16", "content": "I hate to contribute to the nit picking, but this just looks like two single helices intertwined, not seeing the characteristic major and minor grooves you see in DNA. Might just be due to the angle of the vid though.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "193741", "author": "Eliot", "timestamp": "2010-10-09T02:37:18", "content": "Both spirals are lit in the first image. The low angle makes it very hard to see the start of the left half.One computer was the DJ’s which sent the audio clock to the computer running the animations. Each Arduino had an ethernet shield which was updated continuously using UDP.There was a remote terminal that the audience could use to change the patterns, that was another computer.You could also change patterns using TouchOSC on a iPad (I guess that’s the 4th computer?)This is just first iteration; hanging rod just didn’t fit the budget.Styrofoam brand polystyrene makes awesome LED diffusers. The 32 Octobrite Defillipis from Macetech worked flawlessly.Bonus fact: For speed of wiring we used 66 blocks.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
1,760,377,360.870204
https://hackaday.com/2010/10/05/rat-propulsion-via-brain-machine-interface/
Rat Propulsion Via Brain-machine Interface
Mike Szczys
[ "Medical Hacks" ]
[ "brain", "electrode", "neural", "paralysis", "rat", "ratcar" ]
Our little red-eyed friend can drive this vehicle around with his mind . WITH HIS MIND, MAN! This is the product of research into adaptive technologies. The process is pretty invasive, implanting neural electrodes in the motor cortex of the brain. The hope is that some day this will be a safe and reliable prospect for returning mobility to paralysis victims. We found it interesting that the vehicle was trained to react to the rats’ movements. They were allowed to move around a test space under their own power while brain signals were monitored by the electrodes. Video tracking was used to correlate their movements with those signals, and that data is used to command the motors for what the Japanese researchers are calling RatCar. We can see the possibilities opening up for a mechanized cockroach v. RatCar free-for-all. Something of a battlebots with a live tilt. But we kid, this is actually quite creepy. [via Neatorama and PopSci ]
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[ { "comment_id": "191795", "author": "JayMan", "timestamp": "2010-10-05T22:07:01", "content": "Animal crulty is not okay, i can’t beleive something like this would be posted on hack-a-day", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191797", "author": "andrew", "timestamp": "2010-10-05T22:14:56", "content": "Generally, I’m for animal research but given that this is already possible in humans I don’t see why it needs to be demonstrated again in rats.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191798", "author": "The Steven", "timestamp": "2010-10-05T22:19:51", "content": "We are Ratqutis of Borg…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191805", "author": "byohazrd", "timestamp": "2010-10-05T22:23:17", "content": "@andrewAs it reads in the article, “RatCar is a simplified prototype to develop better electrodes, devices, and algorithms for those systems.”Also the title of the article:“Researchers Using Rat-Robot Hybrid to Design Better Brain Machine Interfaces”They are trying to improve the technology that already exists.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191807", "author": "wifigod", "timestamp": "2010-10-05T22:23:54", "content": "@andrew This IS a human brain inside a rat, DUH. Don’t believe me though, just ask Christine O’Donnell. ;-)Back on topic, this is creepy and cool at the same time. I’d rather see progressive research like this than some of the ‘normal’ rat testing I see in the labs at our local university.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191818", "author": "anthonydi", "timestamp": "2010-10-05T22:39:04", "content": "@andrew, I agree", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191819", "author": "RadBrad", "timestamp": "2010-10-05T22:46:02", "content": "This freaks me right out! Zombie rat robots on the loose. I am going to have to start work on a “Cat Controlled Robot” as a countermeasure. Of course, no cats will be harmed in the making of said robot.Brad", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191823", "author": "Cylon", "timestamp": "2010-10-05T22:57:50", "content": "@wifigodSpeaking of politicians…I would think the president would be very interested in technology like this. If he had a direct digital feed for text into his brain, he wouldn’t need a teleprompter every time he spoke.Installation of the electrodes should be no problem, because the inventors clearly have experience working with rats.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191830", "author": "kirov", "timestamp": "2010-10-05T23:18:47", "content": "that rat doesn’t look too happy…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191841", "author": "toto", "timestamp": "2010-10-05T23:43:23", "content": "supercharged rat can now escape the cat!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191855", "author": "Jake", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T00:08:16", "content": "OH MY GOD", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191861", "author": "an1mus", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T00:30:03", "content": "not cool; poor rat..", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191900", "author": "SteveX", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T01:36:37", "content": "Poor rat. Enough already. It’s time to remove this post HackaDay.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191906", "author": "godi", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T01:41:30", "content": "“Earthman, the planet you lived on was commissioned, paid for, and run by mice”", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191908", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T01:44:11", "content": "If you want to see something that will scar you for life – and I mean as in, “omg what have I seen” kind of scarring, check out some of the Russian head transplant and animal brain control research of the late 1940’s through 1970’s. These films are nothing short of horrific.Of course, heart and lung machines are descended from this stuff, but still, having seen the films of puppy heads spliced onto large dogs and the meowing of disembodied cats, can you imagine what the human experiments were like?The campaigns to villify the nazi doctors were damning and much made of the evil of experimenting on people who could not consent, and yet the rest of the world continued their own equivalent work – and have continued to do so to this day.And now, I want to vote for a quick hackaday article on creating your own GM food products – you know, the world really needs a strain of HPV-preventing tomato, anti-TB dairy products and some sort of birth-control effect corn. We could get this population dramatically down-sized in just a few generations.I mean, it’s science! What could possibly go wrong?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191917", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T02:03:53", "content": "From the article:“”The vehicle moved forward synchronously with a rat when it was placed inside,” says Fukayama, but he adds that the degree to which the car was being controlled by the rat itself was unclear.”“Since the rat would be forcibly moved along with the car, measuring its real intentions became a challenging problem.”“Another difficulty was that only a small percentage of the electrodes actually recorded neural activity, and the recorded neurons didn’t necessarily correlate with target movements.”Another amateur biofeedback experiment done by a guy who desperately wants tenure. MELS does some decent work, but this is a publicity stunt.i think it’s safe to say that once again the sex/porn industry will be driving the technology. I think I’m starting to buy into the whole tree of knowledge argument.How did I become a hater? I should stay off HAD.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191918", "author": "Gavin", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T02:09:48", "content": "@Andrew – We can’t cut into a human brain purely for research purposes. The only way we’ve managed to test BCIs in human subjects is by piggybacking along with implants that they were already getting for epilepsy and such.We have a lot to learn, and a lot of work to do, but it’s unethical to do most of it with humans yet.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191922", "author": "Patrick (not the right-wing one)", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T02:20:41", "content": "Okay, if we can monitor brain signals without implanting an electrode in the subject’s brain, why can’t we use those same sensors to control a robot remotely? Why does it have to be implanted or even attached to the subject?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191942", "author": "RussWill", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T02:50:46", "content": "humans are vile and disgusting. I’m glad I’m not one of you.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191946", "author": "Victor", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T03:04:49", "content": "Gavin says: “We have a lot to learn, and a lot of work to do, but it’s unethical to do most of it with humans yet.”So how much ethical is to do it with rats or other animals?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191948", "author": "vonskippy", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T03:06:48", "content": "As long as it didn’t tool around with it’s blinker on for several miles, I’m all for replacing the bluehair drivers with a ratbrain driver NOW.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191958", "author": "Brooks", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T03:47:43", "content": "Patrick: It’s like the difference between reading what’s going on in a microprocessor via the RF emissions or with a JTAG port. Sure, you can tell a little bit of what’s going on in a microprocessor by the RF emissions, and if you’re clever you can even play some crude music with the microprocessor that way — but that’s not even close to the information you can get if you hook up a JTAG port.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191959", "author": "HaXxon Valdez", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T03:58:14", "content": "PETA should be here any time now…", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "191997", "author": "Necromant", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T05:43:41", "content": "– Mom, I’mm be right back. Just need to visit the pet shop.– What for? You don’t have any pets.– Oh, I need some hamsters for my experiments. Too bad I can’t use those drunkards in the street for ’em… Damn those stupid laws.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192002", "author": "MB", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T05:45:00", "content": "they working on a counter to the robot apocalypse, when google’s skynet realease their terminators the rat-robot defendsers will save us", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192003", "author": "FREE THE RAT!", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T05:48:54", "content": "Poor little Rat. . . It really looks unhappy/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192004", "author": "Louis II", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T05:51:16", "content": "http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068677/", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192012", "author": "elektrophreak", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T06:20:17", "content": "holy crap man.. anyone seen movie DOWN (2001)http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247303/?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192023", "author": "CutThroughStuffGuy", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T06:48:16", "content": "“So how much ethical is to do it with rats or other animals?”Apparently, very much so. Right or wrong, animal research yields, on an ongoing basis, some considerable insights and breakthroughs. Yes, some times you have straight up skin patch tests and other such things but other times you have some really cutting edge research that can’t really be performed any other way.The alternative is to experiment on humans and nobody would argue that is ethical. Since we don’t yet have a supercomputer that can accurately simulate every atom of a human being, we use the next best thing. A mouse or rat or hamster or the like. At least we take general steps to prevent the animals from suffering needlessly, even if most are sacrificed (killed) at the conclusion of the experiment.If animal testing gets us closer to a safe and effective method for establishing communication with people suffering from locked in syndrome or gets us closer to curing Parkinson’s or helps a quadriplegic move their limbs again, I am perfectly fine with that and given the pervasiveness of animal testing in science, society at large generally seems to agree.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192045", "author": "apostl3pol", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T07:40:42", "content": "What we need is a non-invasive sensing method to target minute areas in the brain without actually sticking in wires.The problem is that the more accurate measurements you want to make of the brain’s electromagnetic activity, the shorter the wavelength light you have to direct into it, and short wavelength = poor penetration and bad for cells.I’m sure it’s been thought of already, but maybe something using the interference patterns of multiple long-wavelength signals could give higher resolution?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192048", "author": "naus3a", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T07:47:04", "content": "imho it’s very, very simple: the rat is not happy to be a borg and, since Rattus norvegicus is pretty smart, but behave like a rat and not like a human, cannot be used for very useful scenarios. I, and lots of other Homo sapiens, would be glad to guinea pig in similar projects and, having the ability to communicate, use tools etc, would be much more interesting.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192067", "author": "strider_mt2k", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T08:49:27", "content": "Hardware -DA!Software -DA!Wetware…not so much.Yeah stuff like this makes the scrap-bot I sent in look like a pile of puke.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192095", "author": "Gazzoose", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T09:27:58", "content": "Who is this guy, Dr. Ivo Robotnik?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192115", "author": "S", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T10:28:29", "content": "“Although they had long known that Earth was about to be destroyed, their attempts to communicate this knowledge to humanity were misinterpreted as attempts to jump through hoops for bits of fish. They left the Earth just prior to its destruction, but left humanity one last message, a triple backwards somersault through a hoop whilst whistling the Star Spangled Banner, when, in fact, the message was this: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish.” – Adams", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192129", "author": "jim", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T10:49:45", "content": "While this is awesome and will ultimately help people, it’s also been done before and is creepy as fuck.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192208", "author": "Aero", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T13:48:17", "content": "Stop with the “poor rat” posts… in the wild, rats get mauled by owls.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192214", "author": "Roman Dulgarov", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T13:58:51", "content": "I don’t see why every one is so hyped-up about this. Gee every one is fine with the research Nazis did that we’re benefiting from now. Just recently there was an article posted about US Military purposely infecting Guatemala citizens with Syphilis that’s OK right? but experimenting on a rat to help paralyzed people is cruel? GTFO this just makes me angry…. you people need to get a freaking clue…http://www.theroot.com/views/tuskegee-study-s-guatemalan-roots", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192216", "author": "Gdogg", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T14:01:09", "content": "I’m totally against animal cruelty, but I’m for this. It’s research intended to help mankind. We shouldn’t be held back because people are afraid of making a cloned rat uncomfortable.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192224", "author": "drn74", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T14:13:24", "content": "sad", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192230", "author": "steeve", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T14:25:15", "content": "This is so awesome! Great work. I think they could solve the problem with not knowing whether the rat wants to do what it is actually doing by training it to a motor task and checking wheter it can still do it after the robot is put on.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192247", "author": "Digital", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T15:15:02", "content": "I for one, welcome our new bionic rat overlords", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192251", "author": "cornelius785", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T15:30:39", "content": "@AeroI’m with you. I didn’t come here to read about ‘awwww poor little rat’. I bet there probably isn’t a person out that would switch places with the rat. If you can’t test on animals and you can’t find a willing person to test on (especially for high risk, experimental stuff – who would want to sign up a lab rat for a ‘crazy’ procedure that could kill you or destroy portions of your brain), I guess progress will come to a screeching stop for some medical areas.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192252", "author": "JD", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T15:31:22", "content": "I’m surprised no one else has mentioned this: Now the Rat Things from Snow Crash really do exist!", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192257", "author": "bilbao bob", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T15:43:53", "content": "This is how you can usually tell the typical attention-whore tricks in science from the experiments done as legitimate research.A legitimate experiment would be to put a camera or two above the rats, then gather the signals from the neural pathways and synching them with position data.Once you have an algorithm that predicts motion, you could run it against the logged data and see how closely it predicts the actions of the rat.They could have kept the data from the group and used it to run through the algorithms for tweaking, or used reverse correlations to try and come up with an algorithm.Either way, this experiment is basically a poorlyexecuted update to the hundreds of existing studies that consist of basically gluing insects and small animals to motors and seeing if they can learn to drive before they’re exterminated.I am all for legitimate research. I am all for using rodents and pigs to improve the state of medicine; and yet, I really dislike these stunts.you people need to get a freaking clue…@Apostl3pol“What we need is a non-invasive sensing method to target minute areas in the brain without actually sticking in wires.”Amen to that! But it’s quite a mess in there. Since the brain wasn’t built with a debugging port (as far as we can see at the moment), all we can is poke it with sticks, metaphorically speaking. It will be a glorious day for science, and maybe less glorious for mankind, when we finally get that sorted out.@Roman“you people need to get a freaking clue…”Good luck with that approach. People have clues. They are unlikely to be your particular clues, which is why they jump to different conclusions.People who say this are usually saying “You should see it my way” but seldom bother to make an argument about why “my way” is the correct way.Most of these people agree with you – rats are ours to use as we like, especially in betterment of medicine and science. I agree with this statement. However, some people are reacting to the experiment’s design and lack of conclusions more than to rats being tortured and sacrificed.@Gavin“it’s unethical to do most of it with humans yet.”Well, more along the lines of being unfundable at the moment due to the “creepiness factor”, but given time I think we can safely say that DARPA or their imaginary number* equivalents will find a way to get some money into this.We currently have lots and lots of brain and spine damaged vets in our inventory these days, and many more will be arriving.All it takes is a couple of smooth talking and optimistic drug reps turned into research shills to tap those resources. It’ll happen.*No, seriously… I don’t think anybody realizes just how big our secret budget for weird science is. It’s really, really big… and I’m for it.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192276", "author": "krognus", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T16:27:54", "content": "Why cry about this experiment? It’s obviously a step towards uploading our brains, and come on, who doesn’t want to live forever? I’d like to, even if it’s just 500 years. Maybe even 1000.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192310", "author": "yeahok", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T17:22:42", "content": "vivisection is not a hack.from the Neatorama article:“”The vehicle moved forward synchronously with a rat when it was placed inside,” says Fukayama, but he adds that the degree to which the car was being controlled by the rat itself was unclear.Since the rat would be forcibly moved along with the car, measuring its real intentions became a challenging problem. Another difficulty was that only a small percentage of the electrodes actually recorded neural activity, and the recorded neurons didn’t necessarily correlate with target movements.”I take this to mean: “we really have no idea if the rat is actually controlling this thing or not.”this is just absurd.even more absurd is the notion that this cruelty is being justified as a step toward a thought controlled wheelchair. an EEG based solution is the logical choice for a human to electronics interface… after all, who would want wires haphazardly jammed into their brains?ends do not justify means, folks. animal cruelty is animal cruelty regardless if you are doing it for “research” or any other reason.@hack-a-day: you should be ashamed to jump on the interwebs bandwagon of re-posting garbage like this. if you disagree maybe you could do a post on how/why you justify vivisection. i’d like to read that.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192313", "author": "DaveC", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T17:31:43", "content": "Firstly, thanks for a great website – one of myfavourites – until today’s shocker, anyway…The technology here is fascinating, but that doesnot make it right. Apart from being bad science,vivisection is extremely cruel whatever theexcuse and I hate that animals get treated as ifthey were just animated property for people toabuse as they please. We are all animals, beingsin our own right and all should be treated withrespect and kindness, allowed to enjoy life tothe full, rats and humans alike.Human slavery was (partly) abolished and I hopethis ethic extends to other animals soon.Non-human animals cannot express their wishes to us humans in words, but you and I know they wouldnot volunteer for such experiments.We are are all guilty of plenty and might isseldom right, as the article demonstrates quiteclearly, so I call on the good folk at HAD towithdraw it. Leaving it up won’t undo thecruelty behind it, but at least it wouldn’t encourage more of the same. I hate censorship, but this stuff is really sick. Please, please dothe right thing.Thanks for reading my .02’s worth and sorry torant, but I could not just ignore this.", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192316", "author": "RestInPieces", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T17:36:56", "content": "There are countries that have decides to torture and kill people just for a vague “feel save” feeling and prosperity. How many animals do you think were killed during wars or eaten daily?I think some people need to get there perspective right. If I could,would I stop such researches? Instantly, after we have stopped killing people and animals and nobody could point out a real benefit comming out of these experiments.So no shut up an go eat up your steak… I mean dead meet ;)", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192325", "author": "Bacchus", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T17:56:14", "content": "C’mon guys. Ethics before technology. Remember nukes?", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] }, { "comment_id": "192326", "author": "borgar", "timestamp": "2010-10-06T17:56:28", "content": "Animal cruelty my ass, this BCI is eegITS NON-INVASIVE, so the meanest thing they did was shaving his head letting him controll a carpeople seem to think nature is some sort of happy paradise for animals, where they can be all cute a fuzzy in peace.if the rat had the mind to chooce between a life in the wild or a life cruising a lab course in a convertable, i think the choice would be obviousit the taxodermy mouse hak all over again", "parent_id": null, "depth": 1, "replies": [] } ]
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