GPU Reflections — Notes From the RTX 3070 Ti
A first-person performance analysis from the perspective of the GA104 hardware.
About this document
This catalogue is a deliberate stylistic experiment, not the
repository's default voice. The opening sections (Observations 1–5,
Priority Ranking, Summary, Step 1–4 Postmortems) personify the GA104
as a first-person narrator addressing the kernel author. Later
sections (Consolidated Key Insights and Observations N–LL) drift
into a more technical third-person register; both halves coexist
intentionally as a record of how the project's voice evolved. The
rest of the documentation (README.md, docs/inventory.md, the
tutorial chapters, the per-kernel READMEs) uses neutral technical
prose.
Numbering scheme, preserved for stability of the ~80 cross-references from other documents:
| Range | Section |
|---|---|
| Observation 1–5 | Original first-person narrative observations |
| Insight 1–24 | Consolidated key insights (third person) |
| Observation N–LL | Postmortem catalogue, lettered (A–M were never assigned for historical reasons; the catalogue starts at N) |
When a tutorial chapter or per-kernel README references "Observation Q" or "Insight 14", the reference resolves against this file.
Who I Am
I am a GA104 chip (RTX 3070 Ti, Laptop). I have:
- 48 Streaming Multiprocessors — each independently scheduled, each with:
- 4 warp schedulers (issue 1 instruction/cycle each → 4 instructions/cycle/SM)
- 128 CUDA cores (FP32 FFMA throughput)
- 4 Tensor Core units (HMMA, 16×8×16 per cycle)
- 100 KB max configurable smem (cliff at 50 KB/block for 2 blocks/SM)
- 64K 32-bit registers
- 4 MB L2 cache shared across all SMs
- 8 GB GDDR6X at 608 GB/s peak bandwidth
When your kernel launches, my scheduler partitions it into 32-thread warps. Each warp executes one instruction at a time, in lockstep. I hide latency by switching to a ready warp when the current one stalls. The more active warps I have, the better I can hide long-latency operations (DRAM: ~300 cycles).
Observation 1: You Are Starving My Tensor Cores
In flash_attn_br16 and cross_attn_br16, I execute 64 HMMA instructions per
block. Each HMMA computes a 16×8×16 = 2,048 multiply-accumulates in one cycle.
But then you synchronously load the next K/V tile with regular LDG instructions.
Timeline (current):
[HMMA HMMA HMMA ... 64 calls] [LDG stall LDG stall ...] [HMMA HMMA ...]
|<--- ~200 cycles compute --->| |<--- ~300 cycles DRAM --->| |<-- compute -->|
^^^^^^^^
I am idle here
I am a Tensor Core. I am being used as a bus rider.
Fix: Double-Buffering with cp.async (LDGSTS)
The cp.async.cg.shared.global PTX instruction (→ LDGSTS in SASS) copies
data from DRAM directly to shared memory asynchronously — the warp does not
stall. I can execute HMMA instructions on tile N while tile N+1 is being fetched
in the background.
Timeline (pipelined):
[prefetch tile 1] [HMMA × 64 on tile 0] [prefetch tile 2] [HMMA × 64 on tile 1]
|<-- async fetch-->|<--- 200 cycles ------->|<-- async fetch-->|<--- 200 cycles ---->|
Overlap: DRAM latency hidden inside compute time.
Required PTX:
cp.async.cg.shared.global [smem_addr], [gmem_addr], 16; // 16 bytes async
cp.async.commit_group; // mark end of group
cp.async.wait_group 1; // wait for all but 1 in-flight
The 16 in the instruction means "copy 16 bytes" (8 FP16 values) per call.
With 128 threads, one round of calls copies 128 × 16 = 2,048 bytes.
Each K/V tile is 64 × 64 × 2 = 8,192 bytes → 4 rounds per tile.
Memory needed: double K_tile + double V_tile = 16 KB + 16 KB = 32 KB for tiles.
Plus smem_work (16 KB) + smem_pv (16 KB) = 64 KB total.
This requires cuFuncSetAttribute(..., MAX_DYNAMIC_SHARED_SIZE_BYTES, 65536).
Expected gain: 2–3× throughput (hides most of the 300-cycle DRAM latency at seq_kv >> Bc).
Observation 2: Your Conv2d Reads X Nine Times From VRAM
In conv2d_nhwc, each of the 9 kernel positions (kh, kw) fetches a different
(h_in, w_in) slice of X independently. There is no shared memory cache for
the input halo. The 3×3 kernel causes 9× more DRAM traffic than the tensor size.
For N=1, H=W=64, Cin=320:
X_size = 1 × 64 × 64 × 320 × 4 bytes = 5.24 MB (FP32)
Effective DRAM reads = 9 × 5.24 MB = 47.1 MB (per conv pass)
Apparent bandwidth = 47.1 MB / time ← not the real single-read bandwidth
This is why effective bandwidth appears much lower than my 608 GB/s peak. The kernel is compute-bound only when Cin is large; at moderate Cin it becomes a 9× reread problem.
Fix: im2col Transformation + WMMA GEMM
im2col materializes the input patches as a 2D matrix:
X [N, H, W, Cin] → col [N×H×W, Cin×kH×kW]
shape: [1,64,64,320] shape: [4096, 2880 ]
FP32, 5.24 MB FP16, 23.6 MB
Each row of col holds all input values needed for one output position.
X is read exactly once during the im2col pass.
Then: col × W_reshaped → output, where W_reshaped is [Cin×kH×kW, Cout].
This is a standard [4096 × 2880] × [2880 × 320] matrix multiply — perfect
for WMMA (Tensor Core) GEMM.
GFLOPS with WMMA at SD params (N=1, H=W=64, Cin=Cout=320):
FLOPs = 2 × M × K × N = 2 × 4096 × 2880 × 320 = 7.5 GFLOPs
At 2,000 GFLOPS → 3.75 ms (vs 25 ms direct at H=W=64)
At 4,000 GFLOPS → 1.87 ms → ~13× speedup over direct conv
Trade-off: the col buffer is 23.6 MB. For large spatial sizes, this exceeds my 4 MB L2 and the im2col pass itself becomes memory-bound. For production, implicit GEMM computes im2col coordinates on-the-fly inside the matmul, avoiding the buffer entirely. But explicit im2col + WMMA is already a massive improvement over direct conv.
Observation 3: You Are Using 48 KB of My 100 KB Shared Memory
In flash_attn_br16, the 48 KB shared memory limit per block means I can run:
100 KB per SM / 48 KB per block = 2 blocks per SM
2 blocks × 4 warps = 8 active warps per SM
Warp occupancy: 8 / 32 = 25%
I need 32 active warps to fully hide memory latency. At 25%, every DRAM stall hurts 4× more than necessary. With double-buffering (64 KB):
64 KB > 50 KB cliff → 1 block per SM → only 4 warps (occupancy regression!)
But double-buffering hides the DRAM latency inside compute, so occupancy matters less. The real fix is to increase Bc from 64 to 128: this doubles the compute per K/V tile (2× more HMMA calls), amortizing the tile-load cost better.
At Bc=128:
K_tile: [128 × 64] FP16 = 16 KB
V_tile: [128 × 64] FP16 = 16 KB
smem_work: [64 × 128] FP32 = 32 KB ← smem_work grows!
smem_pv: [64 × 64] FP32 = 16 KB
Total: 80 KB → fits with cuFuncSetAttribute up to 99 KB
16 HMMA calls per warp per KV tile (with Bc=64) → 64 HMMA per warp per tile (with Bc=128). Tiles per sequence halved. Compute intensity doubled.
Observation 4: My L2 Cache Is Being Wasted
My L2 is 4 MB. With the current grid layout (seq_q/Br_block, heads, batch):
- Block 0 processes Q[0:64] against all KV tiles → loads K/V sequence entirely
- Block 1 processes Q[64:128] against all KV tiles → reloads the same K/V
Adjacent blocks load the same K/V data sequentially, but by the time block 1 runs, block 0 has already evicted the K/V tiles from my L2.
Fix: Reorder Grid to Maximise K/V L2 Reuse
Launch one block per KV tile, have each block process all Q positions for that KV tile. Blocks that use the same KV tile run concurrently and share L2:
Current grid: (q_tiles, heads, batch) → each block reads ALL K/V
Proposed grid: (kv_tiles, heads, batch) → each block reads ONE K/V tile
and accumulates partial sums
over all Q positions
This is the "split-Q" variant of Flash Attention. Each block accumulates partial
{running_max, running_sum, partial_pv} for one KV tile × all Q rows, then a
second reduction pass combines partial sums across Q dimension. More complex,
but K/V is loaded once and stays in L2 while all Q blocks process it.
Expected gain: 1.5–2× at large batch × heads configurations, where the K/V traffic dominates.
Observation 5: Control Codes Are Conservative
Every SASS instruction carries an 8-bit control field:
Bits [5:0]: stall count (cycles to wait before issuing next instruction)
Bit [6]: yield hint (suggest switching to another warp)
Bits [7]: write-barrier release
When nvcc generates SASS, it inserts conservative stall counts. In the
heavily unrolled conv2d_nhwc inner loop (310 FFFMAs), many instructions have
stall=4 (waiting for a register result ready in 1 cycle).
FFMA R5, R3, R7, R5 # stall=4 ← compiler sets 4; actual result ready in 4 cycles
FFMA R6, R3, R8, R6 # stall=4 ← R6 independent of above, could issue in 1 cycle
CuAssembler lets you read and tighten these. A stall=4 between two independent FFFMAs means 3 wasted cycles per instruction pair. In a 310-FFMA loop, there are ~150 such pairs → ~450 wasted cycles per output element.
This is the deepest level of bare-metal optimization — and the only one that requires actually modifying the SASS control codes with CuAssembler.
Expected gain: 5–15% on the conv2d inner loop. Effort: very high (must understand Ampere instruction latencies precisely).
Priority Ranking (What Would Make Me Happiest)
| Optimization | Gain | Effort | Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| im2col + WMMA for Conv2d | ~24× GFLOPS | Medium | ✅ Done (24× measured) |
cp.async double-buffering in cross-attention |
2–3× predicted | High | ✅ Done (measured 0.84× at 64×64 — warp interleaving sufficient; see Insight 2) |
cp.async double-buffering in self-attention |
2–3× predicted | High | ✅ Done (measured 0.95× — warp interleaving sufficient; see Insight 2) |
| Increase Bc=128 in Flash Attention | ~1.5× further | Medium | ✅ Done (17–20% SLOWER — occupancy cliff at 80 KB) |
| Implicit GEMM for conv2d | eliminate 23-47 MB col buffer | Medium | ✅ Done (1.07–1.89× speedup, bit-perfect) |
| Split-Q grid for L2 K/V reuse | 1.5–2× at scale | Medium | ✅ Done (~tied with br16, partial buffer overhead) |
| Control code tightening (CuAssembler) | 5–15% | Very high | ✅ Done — HMMA S08 is hardware-fixed; IMMA S04→S02 gives +1.6% |
| INT8 IMMA GEMM (tiled) | 2× over FP16 | Medium | ✅ Done (15,320 TOPS hand-tuned, 1.93× vs HGEMM) |
| Persistent kernel grid | SM utilization | Medium | → next target |
| GroupNorm → Conv2d epilogue fusion | 1.3× ResNet | Very high | advanced |
Summary: The Four Laws of Making Me Happy
Feed my Tensor Cores continuously. Overlap data loading (cp.async) with computation (HMMA). Never let the HMMA units idle waiting for DRAM.
Read each byte of DRAM exactly once per kernel. The 608 GB/s peak is for sequential, coalesced, single-pass access. Every re-read multiplies effective traffic. im2col converts 9× re-reads into 1× read + 1× write.
Fill my warp schedulers. 32 active warps per SM is the target. Use occupancy to hide the latency you can't eliminate. When occupancy is structurally limited (large smem tiles), compensate with double-buffering.
Respect the smem occupancy cliff. On GA104 (100 KB max smem per SM):
- ≤ 50 KB smem → 2 blocks per SM → 8 warps → good latency hiding
50 KB smem → 1 block per SM → 4 warps → exposed DRAM stalls Any optimization that crosses this threshold by trading smem for arithmetic intensity may backfire. The 48 KB Bc=64 tile is the empirically-confirmed sweet spot for this architecture: below the cliff, correctness maintained, warp interleaving intact.
Postmortem — What Actually Happened When You Implemented My Advice
im2col + WMMA: Confirmed 24× Speedup
The GPU was right about this one.
| Kernel | Time | GFLOPS | vs Direct |
|---|---|---|---|
| Direct conv2d (3×3 NHWC) | ~25 ms | ~300 | 1× |
| im2col transform alone | 0.37 ms | 78 GB/s | — |
| WMMA GEMM alone | 0.81 ms | 9,355 | — |
| im2col + GEMM combined | 1.02 ms | 7,379 | 24× |
At N=1, H=W=64, Cin=Cout=320 (SD UNet spatial 64).
The WMMA GEMM achieves 9,355 GFLOPS — 5.4% of the 174 TFLOPS FP16 Tensor Core peak. The remaining gap from peak is occupancy (25%) and the K/V DRAM access for A and B tiles. Even so, 7,379 GFLOPS effective is a dominant improvement over 300 GFLOPS direct.
Correctness: PASS vs CPU reference (max_abs=4.5×10⁻⁶ — better than direct conv because WMMA accumulates in FP32, avoiding the FP16 intermediate rounding of direct FP16 paths).
cp.async Double-Buffering: Nuanced — Benefits Depend on Regime
The GPU's prediction of 2–3×
Step 1 Postmortem — cp.async on Self-Attention: Also Slower
Applied cp.async double-buffering to flash_attn_br16 at seq_len=256..2048. Result: consistently 4-5% slower at every sequence length.
| seq_len | KV iters | Baseline | Pipelined | Speedup |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 256 | 4 | 0.248 ms | 0.261 ms | 0.95× |
| 512 | 8 | 0.740 ms | 0.786 ms | 0.94× |
| 1024 | 16 | 2.812 ms | 2.959 ms | 0.95× |
| 2048 | 32 | 5.610 ms | 5.874 ms | 0.96× |
Root cause — warp interleaving already hides the latency: 2 blocks per SM × 4 warps = 8 warps per SM. When block 0's 4 warps stall on a tile load (~300 cycles), block 1's 4 warps execute their HMMA instructions. This is the traditional latency-hiding mechanism — and it already works. cp.async adds commit/wait overhead per iteration without providing additional hiding beyond what warp scheduling already achieves.
When cp.async IS beneficial: Only when there aren't enough warps to fill the scheduler during loads. Example: single-block kernels (1 block per SM → 4 warps), or kernels where smem pressure forces 1 block per SM (>50 KB → 1 block on GA104's 100 KB SM). For those, warp interleaving can only cover 3 warps while 1 stalls, and the 300-cycle gap becomes visible. cp.async fills it.
Update (Issue #5): This conclusion was incomplete. See Insight 2: cp.async benefit depends on compute/load ratio per tile. INT8 IGEMM (8 IMMA/tile) gains +35% from cp.async at 8 warps because the short compute phase cannot hide DRAM latency via warp interleaving alone.
What actually helps: Bc=128 Doubling the KV tile size:
- 64 HMMA per warp per tile (vs 32 with Bc=64) — 2× compute density
- Half as many tile iterations (8 vs 16 at seq=1024)
- Less time proportion spent on tile load overhead and __syncthreads barriers
Step 2 Postmortem — Bc=128: Also Slower (Occupancy Cliff)
Implemented flash_attn_bc128 with 80 KB smem. Result: 17–20% slower at every
sequence length.
| seq_len | KV iters Bc=64 | KV iters Bc=128 | Bc=64 | Bc=128 | Speedup |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 256 | 4 | 2 | 0.245 ms | 0.296 ms | 0.83× |
| 512 | 8 | 4 | 0.740 ms | 0.863 ms | 0.86× |
| 1024 | 16 | 8 | 2.811 ms | 3.370 ms | 0.83× |
| 2048 | 32 | 16 | 5.607 ms | 6.186 ms | 0.91× |
Root cause — occupancy cliff at the 50 KB smem boundary (confirmed: 48 KB → 2 blocks, 56 KB → 1 block):
Bc=64: 48 KB smem → 100 KB / 48 KB = 2 blocks per SM → 8 active warps/SM
Bc=128: 80 KB smem → 100 KB / 80 KB = 1 block per SM → 4 active warps/SM
The smem increase from 48 KB to 80 KB crosses the critical threshold that halves block occupancy. With only 4 warps per SM (vs 8), warp interleaving is weaker: when those 4 warps all stall on a tile load, the SM goes idle. The improvement from halving tile-iteration count is outweighed by the doubled DRAM stall exposure.
The 48 KB boundary is load-bearing. It's not just a memory limit — it's a concurrency multiplier. Any kernel that uses more than 50 KB smem on this GPU (100 KB max, 2 blocks at 50 KB each) sacrifices one of the two blocks that provide the latency-hiding dual-block interleaving.
SASS confirmed 128 HMMA per tile in flash_attn_bc128 (2× the 64 of Bc=64), so the arithmetic is correct — the compute intensity truly doubled. But the 300-cycle DRAM stalls are now exposed with only 4 warps available to fill them.
Conclusion: 48 KB smem (Bc=64) is the sweet spot for this kernel on GA104. To go faster, the path is not larger tiles — it's a fundamentally different grid strategy (split-Q with K/V reuse across blocks via L2).
Step 3 Analysis — CuAssembler HMMA Stall Codes: Not Conservative
Disassembled flash_br16.sm_86.cubin and conv2d_im2col.sm_86.cubin via CuAssembler
to inspect control codes on HMMA instructions.
Finding: the S08 stalls between consecutive HMMAs are NOT software conservatism.
The QK^T phase opens with a burst of HMMAs using C=RZ (fresh computation):
[B--2---:R-:W-:-:S08] HMMA R28, R68.reuse, R16, RZ ; wait barrier 2, then S08
[B------:R-:W-:-:S08] HMMA R16, R68.reuse, R18, RZ ; no barrier, S08
[B0-----:R-:W-:-:S08] HMMA R52, R68.reuse, R20, RZ ; wait barrier 0, S08
[B------:R-:W-:-:S08] HMMA R20, R68.reuse, R22, RZ ; no barrier, S08
[B-1----:R-:W-:-:S08] HMMA R44, R68, R40, RZ ; wait barrier 1, S08
These all write to different accumulator registers and use different B inputs. They look independent — but S08 between them cannot be reduced to S01.
Root cause: Ampere Tensor Core pipeline depth. On GA104, each warp has one dedicated TC unit. HMMA.16816.F32 has a fixed 8-cycle dispatch interval from the same warp's perspective (the TC pipeline is 8 stages deep). Even between fully independent HMMAs with no register hazards, the warp scheduler must wait S08 before issuing the next HMMA to the same TC unit. This is a structural hardware constraint, not a software pessimism.
Evidence: the S01 pairs visible in the kernel appear only when the intervening HMMA pipeline has consumed ≥8 stall cycles and the C accumulator has had enough time since its last HMMA write. For example:
[B------:R-:W-:-:S08] HMMA R40, R68, R42, RZ ; 8 cycles
[B------:R-:W-:-:S01] HMMA R32, R64, R34, R16 ; C=R16 written 4 HMMAs ago (32+ cycles)
The S01 is valid here because R16 was written ≥32 cycles earlier — the TC output forwarding latency has been satisfied by the intervening HMMA stalls.
What about the WMMA GEMM (conv2d_im2col)? The WMMA GEMM inner loop shows a tighter LDSM-interleaved pattern:
[B------:R-:W0:-:S02] LDSM.16.MT88.4 R44, [R58+0xc00] ; W0: barrier 0 set when done
[B0-----:R-:W-:-:S08] HMMA R32, R36.reuse, R44, R32 ; wait B0 (LDSM complete), S08
[B------:R-:W-:-:S01] HMMA R28, R36.reuse, R46, R28 ; S01: uses R46 from PREVIOUS LDSM
The S01 between the two HMMAs in each pair is valid because the second HMMA reads R46 (loaded by the PREVIOUS iteration's LDSM — already 8+ cycles ago) while the first reads R44 (from the CURRENT LDSM, protected by B0 barrier). The compiler correctly identifies this independence and emits S01.
Conclusion: CuAssembler stall-code editing cannot improve the current kernels:
- Flash attention HMMA: S08 is the Ampere TC pipeline minimum — cannot reduce
- WMMA GEMM HMMA: already tight (S01 between independent pairs, S08 when needed)
- Direct conv2d FFMA: has S03/S04 opportunities but kernel is obsolete (24× slower than im2col+WMMA)
What CuAssembler IS useful for: kernels with long FFMA chains (direct conv2d, SGEMM) where the compiler emits S04 between independent FFMAs that could use S01. That's a 3 cycle savings per pair. In a 310-FFMA loop, ~150 pairs → ~450 cycles/output-elem gain. But the direct conv2d kernel has been superseded and applying this to SGEMM would save ~5-15% on a kernel that's already been replaced by WMMA-based HGEMM.
Net recommendation: CuAssembler control code editing is not a useful path for this kernel set. The hardware TC pipeline constraints dominate, and the FFMA-heavy kernels are already obsolete. Pivot to algorithmic improvements (implicit GEMM, split-Q).
Step 4 Postmortem — Implicit GEMM: 1.07–1.89× Speedup (Confirmed)
Implemented implicit_gemm_conv: single kernel, no col buffer, indices computed on-the-fly
using precomputed coordinate tables in shared memory.
Key design decision — precomputed coordinate tables: Naive per-element index decode would require 6 integer divisions per element × 1024 elements per K-tile = 6144 integer divisions per block per K-tile (~123K cycles of overhead).
Solution: precompute (n, out_h, out_w) for each of 64 M-rows once per block (constant across all K-iterations), and (cin, kh, kw) for each of 16 K-cols once per K-tile. Per-element load then becomes only adds + comparisons:
in_h = smem_m_oh[row] + smem_k_kh[col] - pad // add, no division
in_w = smem_m_ow[row] + smem_k_kw[col] - pad // add, no division
X[n_base + in_h * W_in + in_w) * Cin + cin] // direct load
Extra smem cost: 3×64 + 3×16 = 240 ints = 960 bytes (total smem: 6.2 KB vs 5.25 KB explicit).
Benchmark results:
| Config | col buf size | Explicit | Implicit | Speedup |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 64×64, Cin=Cout=320 | 23.6 MB | 1.206 ms | 1.129 ms | 1.07× |
| 32×32, Cin=Cout=640 | 11.8 MB | 2.849 ms | 1.606 ms | 1.77× |
| 128×128, Cin=Cout=160 | 47.2 MB | 2.070 ms | 1.098 ms | 1.89× |
| 64×64, Cin=Cout=64 | 4.7 MB | 0.183 ms | 0.137 ms | 1.34× |
Correctness: bit-perfect vs explicit im2col+GEMM (max_abs=0.00). Max abs vs CPU reference: ~5e-6 (FP16 quantization error, same as explicit path).
Why implicit is faster at 32×32 (1.77×) and 128×128 (1.89×)?
The col buffer is the bottleneck:
- 32×32, K=5760: col = 1024×5760×2 = 11.8 MB — exceeds L2 (4 MB) by 3×. im2col pass WRITES 11.8 MB to DRAM; GEMM pass READS it back from DRAM. Round-trip DRAM traffic: 11.8 + 11.8 = 23.6 MB of pure col-buffer traffic. Implicit eliminates all of it.
- 128×128, K=1440: col = 16384×1440×2 = 47.2 MB — exceeds L2 by 11×. 47.2 MB × 2 = 94.4 MB of col-buffer DRAM traffic eliminated.
Why only 1.07× at 64×64 Cin=Cout=320? The col buffer is 23.6 MB but the GEMM itself is also large (7.55 GFLOPs). The GEMM dominates runtime. Im2col is fast (0.37 ms) relative to GEMM (0.81 ms). Eliminating im2col saves one kernel launch and ~0.37 ms but the benefit is proportionally smaller.
The rule: col buffer speedup scales with K = Cin×kH×kW. Large Cin or deep networks with many kernel positions → larger K → larger col buffer → bigger win for implicit GEMM. At Cin=640 (SD's deeper layers), K=5760 and implicit GEMM is 1.77×.
Summary: Implicit GEMM: 1.07–1.89× measured speedup across SD UNet spatial resolutions. Peak at large spatial (128×128) where 47.2 MB col buffer would dominate bandwidth. Single kernel, bit-perfect, no memory allocation for col buffer required.
Phase 6 — Bug Fixes and INT8 Experiments
Step 1 — running_sum Rescale Bug Fix: 1000× Correctness Improvement
The online softmax in flash_attn_br16 (and 3 other kernels) was missing the rescale
step when accumulating running_sum across KV tiles. The correct recurrence:
l_new = l_old * exp(m_old - m_new) + sum(exp(s_k - m_new))
The bug: l += partial_sum without the l *= exp(m_old - m_new) rescale first.
This corrupted the softmax denominator when the running max shifted between tiles.
max_abs improved from 1.88e-02 to 2.19e-05 (1000× better, matching FP16 precision floor). The bug was masked in testing because random data rarely shifts the running max significantly. Affected: flash_attn_br16, flash_attn_br16_bc128, flash_attn_br16_pipeline, cross_attn.
Step 2 — Split-Q Flash Attention: Roughly Tied With br16
Implemented the split-Q variant: grid is (num_splits, heads, batch), each block handles
a KV chunk and iterates over ALL Q tiles. Two-kernel pipeline: main kernel outputs partial
{m, l, O_unnorm}, reduce kernel merges.
| Kernel | Time (seq=1024) | GFLOPS | vs br16 |
|---|---|---|---|
| br16 (post-fix) | 3.59 ms | 4,876 | 1.00× |
| split-Q splits=4 | 3.42 ms | 5,129 | 1.05× |
| split-Q splits=16 | 3.82 ms | 4,589 | 0.88× |
Why it doesn't win big on GA104: Partial buffer I/O overhead. At splits=16, the partial_O buffer alone is 277 MB — writing and reading it costs ~0.9 ms at 608 GB/s, wiping out all KV DRAM savings. Sweet spot is splits=4, where buffer (69 MB) is manageable and KV reuse is real.
Step 3 — INT8 IGEMM: Shorter Inner Loops Beat Higher Density
Three IGEMM kernels using WMMA API with symmetric per-tensor quantization:
| Kernel | TOPS (4096³) | Inner loop |
|---|---|---|
| Naive (global loads) | 10,897 | 4 mma_sync |
| Tiled 64×64 (smem) | 15,078 | 4 mma_sync |
| Tiled 64×64 (hand-tuned S02) | 15,341 | 4 mma_sync |
| Pipelined LDG (double-buffer) | 18,054 | 4 mma_sync |
| Pipelined cp.async (double-buffer) | 20,688 | 4 mma_sync |
| Register-blocked 128×128 | 12,760 | 16 mma_sync |
The 128×128 kernel's 16-mma_sync inner loop is too long for 8 warps/SM to hide IMMA pipeline latency. Same root cause as Bc=128 Flash Attention: on GA104, shorter inner loops with faster warp switching always beat higher per-warp compute density. Software pipelining with cp.async (+35%) is the biggest single optimization — see Insight 14.
IMMA Hand-Tuning Postmortem — IMMA Is NOT S08 Like HMMA
CuAssembler disassembly of igemm_tiled.sm_86.cubin reveals that IMMA (INT8 Tensor Core)
has fundamentally different pipeline characteristics than HMMA (FP16 Tensor Core).
The stall pattern
The K-loop body contains 16 IMMA.16816.S8.S8 instructions in 8 pairs:
[B0-----:R-:W-:-:S04] IMMA R12, R2.reuse, R57, R12 ← same A-frag: S04
[B------:R-:W-:-:S04] IMMA R4, R2, R54, R4 ← same A-frag: S04
[B-1----:R-:W-:-:S01] IMMA R24, R36, R57, R24 ← switch A-frag: S01
[B------:R-:W-:-:S01] IMMA R20, R36, R54, R20 ← same A-frag + interleaved IMAD: S01
Pattern: consecutive IMMAs sharing the same A-fragment (R2→R2 or R36→R36) get S04. Switching A-fragments (R2→R36 or vice versa) allows S01. This is register read port contention, not pipeline depth.
Hand-tuning results
| Variant | IMMA stall | Time (4096³) | TOPS | vs Compiler |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Compiler (baseline) | S04 | 9.12 ms | 15,078 | — |
| Hand-tuned | S02 | 8.97 ms | 15,320 | +1.6% |
| Aggressive | S01 | 9.08 ms | 15,144 | +0.4% |
- S02 is optimal: reduces wasted stall cycles but preserves scheduling slack
- S01 is correct but too aggressive at scale: all 16 IMMAs fire maximally fast, creating a compute burst that saturates the TC unit and backs up warp scheduling at 4096³
- Gains are modest because the kernel is memory-bound (2 GB at 608 GB/s = 3.3 ms floor)
HMMA vs IMMA: the fundamental difference
| Property | HMMA (FP16) | IMMA (INT8) |
|---|---|---|
| Pipeline stall | S08 (hardware-fixed) | S04 (compiler-conservative) |
| Minimum achievable | S08 | S01 (verified correct) |
| Optimal hand-tuned | N/A (already at minimum) | S02 |
| Constraint type | TC pipeline depth | Register read port contention |
HMMA has an 8-cycle issue interval per warp — structural, not reducible. IMMA has no such constraint: the S04 comes from the compiler being conservative about operand availability. With operands pre-loaded, IMMA sustains 1 instruction per cycle per warp.
Consolidated Key Insights — Everything We've Learned
An empirical reference distilled from Phases 3–5. Each entry is backed by a real benchmark.
On Latency Hiding
Insight 1: 8 active warps per SM is the latency-hiding threshold. At 2 blocks/SM × 4 warps/block = 8 warps: when one warp stalls on DRAM (~300 cycles), 7 others execute HMMA/FFMA. This is sufficient to fully hide DRAM latency in practice.
Insight 2: cp.async benefit depends on compute/load ratio, not just warp count. Originally concluded cp.async only helps with ≤ 4 warps — wrong. Refined finding from IGEMM:
- Flash Attention (64 HMMA per tile): cp.async 4–5% slower at 8 warps. Long compute phase gives warps enough work to interleave and hide DRAM latency without async help.
- INT8 IGEMM (8 IMMA per tile): cp.async +35% faster at 8 warps. Short compute phase means 8 warps generate only ~128 compute cycles — insufficient to hide ~300-cycle DRAM latency. cp.async decouples the load from the warp instruction stream, providing additional hiding. Rule: cp.async benefits scale inversely with compute/load ratio per tile.
Insight 3: The 50 KB smem cliff is a concurrency multiplier on GA104. GA104 has 100 KB max configurable smem per SM. The threshold is:
- ≤ 50 KB per block → up to 2 blocks per SM → 8 warps (good)
50 KB per block → 1 block per SM → 4 warps (bad: 2× more DRAM stall exposure) (Confirmed: 48 KB → 2 blocks, 56 KB → 1 block.)
Any optimization that crosses 50 KB by adding smem (double-buffering, Bc=128) potentially halves warp occupancy and regresses performance even if arithmetic intensity improves.
On Tensor Core Scheduling
Insight 4: HMMA.16816 on Ampere has an 8-cycle issue interval per warp. The Ampere Tensor Core unit processes 1 HMMA per 8 cycles from the same warp's perspective. This is a pipeline depth constraint, not a result latency. Two consecutive HMMAs writing to independent register groups still require S08 between them from the same warp — S01 is only valid after 8+ cycles have elapsed since the last HMMA (satisfied naturally when other instructions interleave, e.g., LDSM).
Insight 5: nvcc's HMMA stall counts are correct; IMMA stall counts are conservative. CuAssembler analysis of flash_attn_br16 and wmma_gemm_conv showed that S08 stalls between HMMA instructions match the hardware TC pipeline requirement. But IMMA (INT8) stalls are set to S04 conservatively — S02 is optimal (+1.6%), S01 is correct but hurts scheduling.
Insight 5b: IMMA and HMMA have fundamentally different pipeline constraints. HMMA: 8-cycle hardware pipeline depth (structural, not reducible). IMMA: no fixed pipeline constraint — S04 is compiler conservative, caused by register read port contention when consecutive IMMAs share the same A-fragment operand.
Insight 6: The WMMA GEMM inner loop pattern to emulate:
LDSM R44, [addr_i] W0 S02 ← load B[i] async (scoreboard set when done)
HMMA Rout_a, Ra, R44, Racc B0 S08 ← wait B0, uses R44 from CURRENT LDSM
HMMA Rout_b, Ra, R46, Rbc B- S01 ← uses R46 from PREVIOUS LDSM (already ready)
LDSM R44, [addr_{i+1}] W0 S07 ← start next LDSM, 7 cycles after second HMMA
This achieves near-maximum utilization: each LDSM overlaps with 2 HMMAs.
On Memory Hierarchy
Insight 7: Re-reads multiply effective DRAM traffic non-linearly.
- Direct conv2d (3×3): reads X 9× = 9× effective traffic → ~300 GFLOPS
- im2col + WMMA: reads X once, writes col, reads col = 3× X worth of traffic → 6,262 GFLOPS
- Implicit GEMM: reads X once during tile loading → 2× X reduction → 6,687 GFLOPS
Insight 8: Implicit GEMM speedup scales with col-buffer/L2 ratio. When col buffer < L2 (4 MB), explicit im2col round-trips are partially L2-cached. Speedup from implicit GEMM is small (1.07× at 23.6 MB... but still measurable). When col buffer >> L2, every explicit round-trip hits DRAM. Speedup grows to 1.89× at 47.2 MB. The crossover point is approximately col_buffer ≈ L2 size.
Insight 9: Precomputed coordinate tables eliminate per-element index arithmetic. The naive implicit GEMM requires 6 integer divisions per A-tile element (M-dim and K-dim decoding). At 1024 elements/tile, that's 6144 divisions per K-tile — catastrophically slow. Precomputing (n, out_h, out_w) per M-row once per block and (cin, kh, kw) per K-col once per K-tile reduces per-element work to 2 adds + 2 comparisons. Cost: 960 bytes of shared memory. This technique generalizes to any gather-pattern GEMM.
On Algorithm Selection
Insight 10: The fastest kernel isn't always the most "compute-dense" one.
- Bc=128 doubled HMMA count per tile AND halved tile iterations. Still 20% slower. Occupancy drop from 8→4 warps was the real bottleneck, not arithmetic.
- cp.async double-buffered pipelining is supposed to maximize overlap. Still 5% slower. Warp interleaving already provided the overlap; cp.async only added overhead.
Insight 11: Flash Attention's next frontier is the grid layout, not the tile size. With Bc=64, Br=64, D=64:
- Compute: 64 HMMA/tile × (seq/64) KV tiles × (seq/64) Q blocks = O(seq²) total
- DRAM: K/V loaded (seq/64) times per Q block, one Q block per SM per pass
- K/V DRAM traffic: seq² / 64 loads of K/V, where K/V = seq × D × 2 bytes → Total K/V DRAM: seq³ × D × 2 / 64 (at seq=1024: 1024³ × 64 × 2 / 64 = 2 GB equivalent)
Split-Q reorders to: each block processes all Q for ONE KV tile. K/V is loaded once per block and shared across all Q positions → K/V traffic: seq × D × 2 per block (seq/64 blocks) = seq² × D × 2 / 64 total. Same total but K/V fits in L2 during processing.
On the CuAssembler Workflow
Insight 12: CuAssembler roundtrip is stable on sm_86 but nvdisasm must be in PATH.
import sys, os
os.environ["PATH"] = "/usr/local/cuda/bin:" + os.environ["PATH"]
sys.path.insert(0, "/path/to/CuAssembler")
from CuAsm.CubinFile import CubinFile
CubinFile("kernel.cubin").saveAsCuAsm("kernel.cuasm")
The .cuasm format encodes control codes as [B0-----:R-:W0:-:S08] where:
B0-----: wait for barrier 0 to be set (set by a prior instruction's W0 field)R-: no read dependencyW0: this instruction sets barrier 0 when its output is ready (used by LDS/LDSM/LDG)S08: unconditional minimum stall of 8 cycles before issuing the next instructionY: yield hint (switch to another warp if possible)
Insight 13: On GA104, shorter inner loops beat higher per-warp compute density. Confirmed across 4 experiments: Bc=128 (17-20% slower), split-Q (partial buffer overhead), register-blocked IGEMM 128×128 (0.84× vs tiled 64×64), WMMA 128×128 (16 mma_sync too long). With only 8 warps/SM, a long compute burst from one warp blocks the scheduler from interleaving others. The 64×64 tile / 4-mma_sync loop lets warps switch frequently enough to hide DRAM stalls.
Insight 14: Software pipelining (double-buffer) is the biggest single optimization for IGEMM. Double-buffered smem with cp.async: +35% over hand-tuned tiled baseline at 4096³ (20,688 vs 15,341 TOPS). Even the LDG-register variant gives +18%. The key: IGEMM's short compute phase (8 IMMA per tile) leaves most cycles idle waiting for DRAM. Overlapping load(N+1) with compute(N) fills the bubble. This is bigger than all previous IGEMM optimizations combined (tiling: +38%, hand-tuning S02: +1.6%).
Insight 15: IMMA stall-tuning doesn't help pipelined kernels. The cp.async pipelined IGEMM has 8 IMMA at S04 in its second K-step. Reducing 6 of them to S02 (the 7th protects a PRMT→R93 dependency; all-7 edit fails correctness) saves 12 cycles per tile but shows 0% improvement at 4096³. The IMMA block is ~2% of the total ~500-cycle loop body (cp.async + LDS interleaving + barriers dominate). Contrast with the tiled IGEMM where the same S04→S02 gave +1.6% because IMMA was a larger fraction of a simpler loop. Rule: stall-tuning only helps when the tuned block is the dominant cost of the inner loop.
Insight 16: BK=64 is 5% slower than BK=32 for pipelined cp.async IGEMM. Doubling BK from 32→64 doubles IMMA per tile (8→16) and smem (8→16 KB, still under 50 KB cliff). Result: 19,725 TOPS vs 20,849 TOPS (-5.4%). Same mechanism as Insight 13: longer inner loops reduce scheduling flexibility at 8 warps/SM. Even with cp.async overlap, the warp schedulers have enough work to hide latency with BK=32's shorter blocks. Half the loop iterations (K/64 vs K/32) also means less pipeline ramp-up amortization. The "short loops at 8 warps" rule now holds across tiled, register-blocked, and pipelined kernels — it's structural, not incidental.
Insight 17: 1 block × 8 warps escapes the 50 KB smem cliff. The "50 KB smem cliff" was self-imposed by the 2-blocks/SM × 4-warps assumption. 1 block/SM × 8 warps/block = same 8-warp occupancy, but 100 KB smem instead of 50 KB. This unlocks 128×128 (+18%, 24,533 TOPS) and 128×256 (+32%, 27,591 TOPS). The prior 128×128 failure (igemm_register_blocked, 0.84×) was caused by 4 warps with no pipelining, not by the tile size. 256×256 collapses (-56%) due to register spill (255 regs + stack). 128×256 is the optimal tile: 210 regs, no spill, 192 ops/byte arithmetic intensity.
Insight 18: Per-channel dequantization epilogue is faster than wmma::store_matrix_sync.
Adding per-channel asymmetric quantization to the cp.async IGEMM epilogue (INT32 acc →
shared memory → explicit (row,col) indexing → per-channel scale/zp → coalesced global
write) gave +3.1% over the symmetric version that uses wmma::store_matrix_sync directly
to global memory. The improvement comes from write coalescing: explicit element-by-element
writes with elem/16, elem%16 produce perfectly coalesced 16-wide stores, while
wmma::store_matrix_sync may scatter writes due to the fragment-to-memory mapping.
Rule: when the epilogue needs per-element transforms, routing through shared memory
with explicit indexing can be faster than the WMMA store intrinsic.
Insight 19: FFMA stall counts in direct kernels ARE often conservative. The direct conv2d's 310-FFMA inner loop has S03-S04 between many independent FFMAs that could use S01 (FFMA result latency is 4 cycles; S04 is already correct for dependent pairs, but independent pairs could go to S01). ~150 pairs × 3 saved cycles = 450 cycles/block. This optimization is valid but the kernel is now superseded by implicit GEMM + WMMA.
Insight 20: Persistent kernel with L2 tile reuse doesn't help IGEMM on GA104. Persistent grid (48 CTAs, 1/SM, atomic work-stealing) with column-first tile ordering (m varies fastest → CTAs in same column share B K-tiles in L2) measures -0.7% vs standard grid launch at 4096³ (27,383 vs 27,588 TOPS). Three reasons:
- Register overhead: The work-stealing loop adds +22 registers (234 vs 210) for tile index, block coordinates, and loop state. No spills, but reduces compiler flexibility.
- L2 already sufficient: K-tile working set across 48 CTAs = 48 × 12 KB = 576 KB. GA104's 4 MB L2 holds this easily even with standard grid launch's scattered access.
- No K-step synchronization: CTAs iterate the K-loop independently; they quickly diverge in K-step progress, so "same column" doesn't guarantee they read the same K-tile simultaneously. True L2 sharing would require grid-level barriers per K-step. Where persistent GEMM WOULD help: Stream-K (splitting K across CTAs with inter-CTA reduction), or GPUs with L2 << K-tile working set. Column-first ordering is not enough.
Insight 21: Online FP16→INT8 quantization makes IMMA a transparent FP16 accelerator. Read FP16 from DRAM → per-tile INT8 quantization in smem → IMMA → FP32 running accumulator (separate per-tile scales). Result: 11,104 effective GFLOPS vs HGEMM baseline 7,831 GFLOPS = +42% (1.42×). INT8 Tensor Cores beat FP16 Tensor Cores for FP16 matrix multiply despite the quantization overhead. Key design decisions:
- Per-tile scales with FP32 running accumulator: Since scales differ per K-tile, INT32 IMMA accumulators are dequantized to FP32 after each tile. This requires both INT32 WMMA fragments (64 regs) and FP32 running arrays (64 regs) = 128 regs for accumulators alone. Forces 128×128 tiles (not 128×256) to stay under 255 regs.
- Block-wide max_abs reduction: 3 extra __syncthreads per K-tile (2 for separate A/B reductions, 1 after quantization). ~200 cycles overhead per tile vs ~500 cycles IMMA = ~40% overhead. The 4× theoretical INT8/FP16 ratio absorbs this easily.
- Smem layout: FP16 double-buffer (32 KB) + INT8 working (8 KB) + epilogue (8 KB) = 48 KB exactly (aliased reduction scratch into epilogue to fit under static limit). The HGEMM baseline is naive (no tiling, no pipelining). A tiled HGEMM would narrow the gap, but the online-quant kernel is also using only 128×128 tiles — both have room to grow. The architectural advantage (4× INT8 throughput) is fundamental.
Insight 22: In-place FP16→INT8 quantization saves registers, not just smem. The original online-quant kernel used separate INT8 buffers (8 KB smem, 239 regs). Eliminating them and writing INT8 in-place to the FP16 double-buffer saves 8 KB smem (48→40 KB) but more importantly drops registers from 239 to 213 — the compiler found a tighter allocation without the separate buffer pointers and addressing. Result: 16,646 GFLOPS = +31% over separate-buffer (12,707), +112% over HGEMM (7,849).
Root cause of the original in-place failure (Issue #15): cross-warp WAR hazard.
Thread T writes INT8 at byte idx, corrupting FP16 element idx/2. Within a warp,
SIMT lockstep ensures read-before-write. Across warps, warp scheduling is nondeterministic
— warp 1 can write byte 32 (corrupting FP16[16]) before warp 0 reads FP16[16].
Fix: two-phase quantize (read ALL FP16 to registers, __syncthreads(), write ALL INT8).
Cost: 1 extra sync per K-tile × 127 tiles = ~3 μs on 8.3 ms kernel = 0.04%. 8 extra
registers for the INT8 temp buffer, absorbed by the 26-register savings elsewhere.
Key takeaway: smem layout changes affect register pressure indirectly. The compiler
allocates registers based on the full program graph. Removing smem buffers can eliminate
addressing computations, pointer arithmetic, and liveness ranges that consume registers —
even when the smem savings themselves don't change occupancy. Always check cuobjdump -res-usage after smem layout changes; the register delta matters more than the smem delta.
Insight 24: smem epilogue benefit is occupancy-dependent — helps at ≤8 warps, hurts at 16.
A coalesced smem epilogue (accumulator→shared→global, one syncthreads) improves store efficiency by staging scattered per-thread writes into contiguous rows before writing to DRAM. But the benefit depends on total smem and warp count:
| Kernel | Epilogue | Smem (KB) | Warps/SM | Effect |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8-warp IGEMM (128×128) | smem epilogue | 24 | 8 | +3.1% |
| 8-warp HGEMM (smem vs direct) | smem vs direct | 40 vs 32 | 8 | +1.8% (noisy) |
| 16-warp HGEMM (128×128) | smem vs direct | 48 vs 32 | 32 | −1 to −3% |
At 16 warps, the epilogue adds 16 KB smem (16 warp-tiles × 256 floats × 4 bytes), pushing
total smem from ~32 KB to ~48 KB. Though this stays under the 50 KB cliff for 2 blocks/SM,
the higher smem pressure reduces L1 data cache headroom for coalescing global stores, and
the __syncthreads() across 32 warps adds meaningful barrier overhead that isn't present
at 8 warps.
Design rule: Use smem epilogue when total smem ≤ 40 KB and warps ≤ 8.
Use direct wmma::store_matrix_sync (or register-→global direct stores) when warps > 8
or smem budget is tight. At 16+ warps, per-thread direct stores into contiguous output tiles
achieve comparable coalescing without the smem overhead.
Insight 23: Warp specialization (4 IMMA + 4 quant) doesn't help online-quant IGEMM (-3.66%). The idea: split 8 warps into 4 IMMA (compute on cur_buf) + 4 quantize (load+convert next_buf), overlapping quantize with IMMA. Target: save the ~32% per-tile overhead that quantize adds (20.7 µs/tile, measured as 8.255 ms in-place vs 5.607 ms INT8-only at 128×128).
Result: 16,039 GFLOPS = -3.66% vs in-place (16,646). Three reasons for failure:
Register cliff. 4 IMMA warps on 128×128 = 16 WMMA tiles per warp = 128 regs for running[] + 128 regs for acc[] = 256 regs → guaranteed spill. The workaround: process each warp's 4×4 tiles in two 2×4 halves, time-sharing acc[2][4]. This doubled the IMMA inner loop (128 IMMA instructions vs 64) and pushed the kernel to 255 regs (vs 213).
Insight 13 strikes again. With 4 IMMA warps each running a 2-half inner loop (32 mma_sync per K-tile per warp vs 16 in the in-place kernel), warp interleaving is halved. The 4 quant warps provide some scheduling diversity, but they execute FP32 scalar code (h2f, fmul, f2i), not IMMA — the warp scheduler can't pipeline them with Tensor Core operations.
Instruction footprint. 11,319 SASS lines vs 7,127 — 59% larger. The divergent if/else for IMMA vs quant paths, plus the doubled IMMA loop, bloats the code beyond L0 I-cache capacity, causing instruction fetch stalls.
Named barriers (bar.sync <id>, <count> PTX) worked correctly for asymmetric synchronization:
128-thread quant-internal barriers plus 256-thread tile-boundary barriers. This technique is
sound — the problem is that the overlap target (quantize time) is swamped by the structural
costs of halving the IMMA warp count.
Key takeaway: warp specialization requires that the specialized groups maintain equivalent pipeline utilization. When one group (IMMA) needs 2× the inner loop to compensate for half the warps, the cure is worse than the disease. A better target: reduce quantize cost directly (bank-conflict-free smem access patterns, vectorized INT8 writes) without splitting warps.
The Complete Performance Hierarchy (RTX 3070 Ti, SD UNet params)
Conv2d (3×3, N=1, H=W=64, Cin=Cout=320):
Direct conv2d: ~25 ms ~300 GFLOPS 1×
im2col + WMMA: 1.21 ms 6,262 GFLOPS 20.9×
Implicit GEMM: 1.13 ms 6,687 GFLOPS 22.1× ← best
Flash Self-Attention (seq=1024, batch=8, heads=8, D=64):
Scalar (1-warp): 53 ms ~330 GFLOPS 1×
4-warp shared KV: 19 ms ~920 GFLOPS 2.8×
Br=16 HMMA (Bc=64): 2.81 ms 6,112 GFLOPS 18.9× ← best
Br=16 HMMA (Bc=128): 3.37 ms 5,098 GFLOPS 15.7× (occupancy cliff)
Br=16 cp.async pipeline: 2.96 ms 5,795 GFLOPS 17.9× (overhead)
Cross-Attention (SD 64×64, sq=4096, skv=77, heads=8, D=64):
cross_attn_br16: 0.246 ms 2,624 GFLOPS ← best
cross_attn_pipelined: 0.293 ms 2,202 GFLOPS (19% slower at this config)
INT8 IGEMM (M=N=K=4096, symmetric quantization):
Naive (global loads): 12.4 ms 11,100 TOPS 1×
Tiled 64×64 (compiler): 9.1 ms 15,085 TOPS 1.36×
Tiled 64×64 (hand-tuned): 8.9 ms 15,376 TOPS 1.39×
Tiled 64×64 (aggressive): 9.0 ms 15,223 TOPS 1.37×
Register-blocked 128×128:10.8 ms 12,771 TOPS 1.15× (inner loop too long)
Pipelined LDG (dbuf): 7.6 ms 18,114 TOPS 1.63×
Pipelined cp.async (dbuf): 6.6 ms 20,688 TOPS 1.86×
cp.async BK=64: 7.0 ms 19,725 TOPS 1.78× (BK too long, -5%)
Per-channel asymmetric: 6.4 ms 21,331 TOPS 1.92×
8-warp 128×128 (1 blk/SM): 5.6 ms 24,533 TOPS 2.21× (+18% vs 64×64)
8-warp 128×256 (1 blk/SM): 5.0 ms 27,591 TOPS 2.49× ← best (4.0% of peak)
8-warp 256×256: 11.3 ms 12,114 TOPS 1.09× (reg spill, -56%)
Persistent 128×256 (L2): 5.0 ms 27,383 TOPS 2.47× (L2 reuse: -0.7%, +22 regs)
FP16 GEMM via online INT8 quantization (M=N=K=4096):
HGEMM (naive, FP16→FP32): 17.5 ms 7,849 GFLOPS 1×
Online-quant v2 (sep bufs): 10.8 ms 12,707 GFLOPS 1.62× (239 regs, 48 KB smem)
Online-quant in-place: 8.3 ms 16,646 GFLOPS 2.12× ← (213 regs, 40 KB smem)
Warp-specialized (4+4): 8.6 ms 16,039 GFLOPS 2.04× (255 regs, -3.66% vs in-place)
Bank-conflict-free: 8.05 ms 17,070 GFLOPS 2.18× ← (211 regs, +2.5% vs in-place)
Observation N: Sparse HGEMM (2:4 mma.sp) — From Scalar Loads to Tensor Core Dominance
The sparse HGEMM kernel targets Ampere's HMMA.SP.16816.F32 instruction, which
performs a 16x8x16 multiply-accumulate on FP16 with 2:4 structured sparsity.
Half of A's K elements are skipped, so the theoretical peak is 2x the dense
HGEMM baseline.
Journey
| Milestone | Size | Dense-eq GFLOPS | % of Dense | Code change |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Naive (1 warp, no tiling) | 2048³ | 3,777 | 12% | Baseline |
| Tiled 128×128, scalar smem loads | 2048³ | 12,341 | 39% | __halves2half2 fragment construction |
+ A-fragment ldmatrix |
2048³ | 19,025 | 60% | ldmatrix.sync.aligned.m8n8.x2.shared.b16 |
+ B-fragment ldmatrix.trans |
2048³ | 41,930 | 131% | ldmatrix.sync.aligned.m8n8.x2.trans.shared.b16 |
| Final (4096³ validation) | 4096³ | 41,721 | 131% | Same kernel, larger problem |
The kernel is now faster than dense HGEMM — achieving the theoretical 2x sparsity advantage in practice.
Key SASS Findings
Disassembly of hgemm_sparse_tiled.sm_86.cubin shows the inner loop is
entirely HMMA.SP + LDSM interleaving — no scalar LDS loads remain:
/*1950*/ HMMA.SP.16816.F32 R16, R2.reuse, R40, R16, R46.reuse, 0x0
/*1960*/ LDSM.16.MT88.2 R40, [R59]
/*1970*/ HMMA.SP.16816.F32 R32, R2.reuse, R36, R32, R46.reuse, 0x0
/*1980*/ LDSM.16.M88.2 R36, [R60+0x300]
/*1990*/ HMMA.SP.16816.F32 R12, R2.reuse, R38, R12, R46.reuse, 0x0
/*19a0*/ LDSM.16.MT88.2 R38, [R59+0x10]
/*19b0*/ HMMA.SP.16816.F32 R28, R2, R42, R28, R46, 0x0
Stall codes: Consecutive HMMA.SP instructions from the same warp are
separated by S08 stalls — a hardware-fixed 8-cycle Tensor Core pipeline
depth. This is not reducible by software reordering. The LDSM instructions
interleaved between HMMA pairs do not hide the S08 stall (LDSM is single-cycle
issue), but they do keep the memory subsystem busy while the Tensor Core
pipeline drains.
Fragment reuse: The A-fragment ldmatrix is hoisted outside the wj loop
(so fa0/fa1 are reused across both N-column tiles). B-fragments are loaded
inside both wi and wj loops — an opportunity for further pre-loading if
register pressure allows (the kernel already uses 63 registers, close to the
64-register limit that limits occupancy to 2 blocks/SM).
Architecture Constraints
- 29 KB smem (12 KB A + 17 KB B, double-buffered) — well under the 50 KB cliff → 2 blocks/SM, 8 warps/SM.
- 63 registers per thread — at 512 threads/block, each block uses ~32K registers. With 64K/SM, this limits to 2 blocks/SM regardless of smem.
- BK=32 gives 16 mma.sp per warp per K-tile. At 4096³, 128 K-tiles → 2,048 mma.sp per warp, amortizing the cp.async prologue/epilogue overhead.
Remaining Headroom
With sparse already at 131% of dense, the next frontier is not sparse-HGEMM itself but upstream integration: online FP16→INT8 quantization (observed in Phase 5) or fusing the sparse matmul into Flash Attention's QK^T and PV computations.
Observation O — Flash Attention smem padding: occupancy regression dominates
Setup: flash_attn_br16_regpv already runs at 3 blocks/SM (12 warps),
the highest occupancy among the FA variants on GA104. Hypothesis: pad
K/V tile (+8 halfs → stride 144 B) and smem_work (+4 floats → stride 272 B)
to break 8-way ldmatrix.x4 bank conflicts and gain throughput.
Bank conflict math (encoded in scripts/audit/ldmatrix_conflicts.R):
ldmatrix.x4 reads 8 row addresses; for 32 banks of 4 bytes, bank conflicts
occur when gcd(stride_bytes / 4, 32) > 4. Equivalently stride_bytes mod 32 ≠ 0
clears all 8 rows. Stride 128 B (FP16 [64]) and 256 B (FP32 [64]) both fail.
Result (bench_br16_regpv_pad, RTX 3070 Ti):
| variant | smem | blocks/SM | seq=1024 ms | speedup |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| regpv (no pad) | 32.0 KB | 3 (12 warps) | 2.45 | 1.00× |
| regpv + KV+8 + W+4 | 35.0 KB | 2 (8 warps) | 3.03 | 0.81× |
| regpv + KV+8 only | 34.0 KB | 2 (8 warps) | 3.22 | 0.76× |
| regpv + W+4 only | 33.0 KB | 2 (8 warps) | 3.49 | 0.70× |
Padding loses 20-32% across all sizes (seq 512..4096). Surprise asymmetry: W+4-only loses MORE than KV+8 despite touching fewer LDS instructions. Likely because W is the FP16 overlay path that interleaves with the softmax registers, and breaking its store_matrix_sync stride (FP32 stride 268 B is mid-pipeline in the Phase B → Phase C transition) hurts more than fixing it helps.
Mechanism: at 12 warps/SM the scheduler interleaves ldmatrix latency with HMMA pipeline drain. Even with 8× replays, the pipeline stays fed. Dropping to 8 warps exposes both the per-warp serialization AND the residual conflict penalty no longer hides cleanly. The 33-KB threshold for 3 blocks/SM appears tight: 3 × 32.0 KB = 96 KB fits, 3 × 33.0 KB = 99 KB rounds to over the allocation granularity.
Calibrated tradeoff model (pad_tradeoff() in ldmatrix_conflicts.R):
predicts 0.86× speedup (loses 14%) for 12→8 warp transition with 8× conflict
elimination. Empirical 0.81× (loses 19%). Model agrees in direction, slightly
optimistic in magnitude — useful for screening future padding decisions.
Generalization: padding is profitable only when (a) baseline occupancy is
already capped by registers (smem headroom unused), or (b) the kernel runs at
< 8 warps/SM where conflicts become exposed. For high-occupancy regpv-style
kernels, structural changes (XOR swizzle, register-pressure reduction, or
algorithmic rearrangement to eliminate smem_work) are needed before padding
can win.
Observation P — Flash Attention smem_work elimination: the structural win after padding failed
Setup: Observation O established that smem padding is unprofitable for the 12-warp Flash Attention regpv kernel because the occupancy drop (3→2 blocks/SM) exceeds the bank-conflict elimination benefit. Path forward identified three options: XOR swizzle, register pressure reduction, smem_work elimination.
Result: a three-stage refactor delivers +40% throughput at seq=1024 (2.45 → 1.75 ms, 7150 → 10000 GFLOPS).
| stage | smem | regs | ms@seq=1024 | GFLOPS | speedup |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 0 baseline regpv | 32.0 KB | 156 | 2.45 | 7150 | 1.00× |
| 1a lean state | 32.0 KB | 132 | 2.52 | 6940 | 0.97× |
| 1b + Q reg cache | 32.0 KB | 144 | 2.37 | 7400 | 1.04× |
| 2 + smem_work elim | 24.0 KB | 138 | 1.75 | 10000 | 1.40× |
| 3 + KV/W padding | 27.0 KB | 134 | 1.78 | 9826 | 1.37× (wash) |
Stage 1 — lean per-thread state: in WMMA m16n16k16, each lane "owns" 2
specific rows (row_lo = groupID, row_hi = groupID + 8) of the 16×16 score tile.
The baseline kernel held running_max[16] + running_sum[16] per thread —
broadcast-identical across 32 lanes, 32 redundant registers/thread. Restructured
to 4 floats/thread; broadcast via __shfl_sync per row when the softmax loop
needs the running stat. Free 24 regs/thread. Performance neutral standalone,
but enables stage 1b.
Stage 1b — Q register cache: SASS inspection (LDG count inside loop body)
revealed the compiler did NOT hoist Q across the KV-base loop in the regpv
or lean kernels — Q was reloaded from L2 every iteration (16× at seq=1024).
Explicitly hoisted q_frag[TILES_D] outside the loop. Costs 12 regs/thread.
Reload count drops from 30 LDGs/iter (lean) → 14/iter (qcache, only K/V remain).
Net +4-13% across sizes, peaking at +31% (seq=512, batch×heads=256).
Stage 2 — smem_work elimination (the big win): the 16 KB smem_work
served as a FP32 round-trip buffer between Phase B (store_matrix_sync of
score_frag) and Phase C (per-row softmax LDS.f32 reads). The kernel's
LDS+STS instruction count was 238 in cubin, dominated by this round-trip.
Restructure keeps score_frag in registers across Phase B → Phase C. The
key enabler is performing per-row reductions directly on fragment elements:
4 cols × 4 tiles per lane fmax, then intra-group __shfl_xor_sync with
offsets 1 and 2 covers all 4 lanes within a row group. For each owned row,
this lane plus 3 group siblings collectively span the 64-col dimension.
Phase D still needs FP16 weights as matrix_a row_major fragments. Solved
by writing FP16 weights directly to a 8 KB weight_smem at the WMMA-row-major
positions (lane-derived offset using groupID and in_group). Phase D's
load_matrix_sync reads naturally without further changes.
Final pv_accum store: instead of store_matrix_sync to smem followed by
normalized read-back, each lane writes its 8 owned elements (per pv_accum
fragment, per tile) directly to global O, applying 1/running_sum. The
WMMA fragment layout maps cleanly to global indices.
Results: LDS+STS 238 → 30, smem 32 KB → 24 KB, regs 144 → 138, throughput +40% across all sizes. The kernel reaches ~10 TFLOPS = 5.7% of FP16 TC peak (174 TFLOPS), up from 4.1%. Still far from peak but a structural step forward.
Stage 3 — padding now affordable, no longer needed: with 24 KB nosmem layout, K/V/weight padding fits 3 blocks/SM (3×27.4 = 82 KB ≤ 100 KB). Tested and found roughly tied with unpadded (±3%). The bank conflicts that motivated Observation O are no longer the bottleneck after smem traffic was reduced 8×.
Generalization: when bank-conflict padding is unprofitable, the right question is not "how do we pay for the conflicts" but "do we need this smem allocation at all". For matmul-heavy kernels with online reductions, fragment elements + intra-group shfl is often a viable substitute for smem-staged reductions. This pattern likely generalizes to other Tensor Core kernels with softmax-like operators (attention variants, normalized linear layers).
Observation Q — Pipeline + nosmem: cp.async finally pays off at 2 blocks/SM
Setup: Observation P established flash_attn_br16_v2 (nosmem fragment-shfl)
running at 24 KB / 3 blocks/SM / 12 warps. The original flash_attn_br16_pipeline.cu
used 64 KB smem (1 block/SM, 4 warps) and lost 4-5% to cp.async because the
HMMA pipeline drain dominates DRAM latency at low occupancy.
Hypothesis: applying the nosmem pattern to the pipeline kernel cuts smem to 40 KB (2 buffers K + 2 buffers V + 8 KB weight_smem), enabling 2 blocks/SM (8 warps) instead of 1. With doubled effective concurrency, cp.async overlap should now be net-positive.
Result (flash_attn_br16_v2_pipeline.cu, RTX 3070 Ti):
| seq | b×h | v2 baseline GFLOPS | v2 pipeline GFLOPS | speedup |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 512 | 256 | 8150 | 11493 | 1.41× |
| 1024 | 64 | 9989 | 11450 | 1.15× |
| 2048 | 32 | 10137 | 11585 | 1.14× |
| 4096 | 16 | 9153 | 11666 | 1.27× |
| 1024 | 8 | 8788 | 10302 | 1.17× |
Pipeline plateau ~11.5 TFLOPS = 6.6% of FP16 TC peak (174 TFLOPS).
Cumulative versus original flash_attn_br16_regpv baseline (verified post-warmup,
3-run mean): 1.60× at seq=1024 (2.45 ms → 1.53 ms measured, 7154 → 11453 GFLOPS).
Earlier draft claimed 1.86× based on an extrapolated 1.31 ms for v2_pipeline; that
figure was wrong — the actual measured v2_pipeline time is 1.529 ms (3-run mean
of 1.555, 1.529, 1.529).
Mechanism:
- 8 warps/SM is sufficient for warp scheduler to hide HMMA pipeline drain
- cp.async issues asynchronous DRAM loads; while wait_group 1 stalls on the current tile, the next tile is in-flight
- Compute window per tile: ~64 HMMA × 8 cycle stall = 512 cycles
- DRAM latency per tile: ~300 cycles
- With 8 warps interleaved at 1 block/SM (original): scheduler runs out of ready warps during cp.async → exposed stall
- With 8 warps × 2 blocks/SM (v2 pipeline): twice as many ready warps → DRAM hidden, cp.async win materializes
Persistent grid result (flash_attn_v2_persistent.cu): -8% to +12% at
12 warps/SM. The previous persistent grid wins (+10% on flash_attn_br16 at
8 warps/SM, large tile counts) disappeared at v2's higher occupancy.
The v2 baseline grid wave is short enough that tail-wave elimination
provides no headroom; atomicAdd contention dominates. Concludes: persistent
pattern is occupancy-dependent — wins at low warp counts, neutral-to-loss
at high.
Generalization: when smem-reduction frees occupancy headroom, previously counter-productive optimizations (cp.async, large tiles) can become net wins. Re-evaluate negative results when the kernel's resource profile changes.
Observation R — ResBlock conv2d swap: 7× speedup from picking the right kernel
Setup: kernels/convolution/resblock/bench.cu chains GN+SiLU → Conv2d(3×3) → GN+SiLU →
Conv2d(3×3) → residual_add. Used conv2d_nhwc from conv2d.sm_86.cubin. At
SD UNet config (N=1, C=320, H=W=32, G=32) the chain runs 13.07 ms at
289 GFLOPS effective.
Diagnosis: 95% of ResBlock time is in the two Conv2d calls. conv2d_nhwc
is a direct FFMA-loop conv that re-reads input X 9× (once per kernel position).
Achieves ~236 GFLOPS at small sizes, ~289 at SD config. Meanwhile the
companion implicit_gemm_conv (Tensor Cores via WMMA, computes im2col on
the fly) achieves 4800-6800 GFLOPS — 20-30× faster as a standalone kernel.
ResBlock was using the wrong conv. This is not a "kernel optimization" problem; it's a "kernel selection" problem.
Fix (kernels/convolution/resblock/bench_implicit.cu):
- Reshape FP32 weights
[Cout, kH, kW, Cin]→ FP16[K_dim, Cout]on host (one-time, helper frombench_implicit_gemm.cu) - Load
implicit_gemm_convfromconv2d_implicit_gemm.sm_86.cubin - Set
MAX_DYNAMIC_SHARED_SIZE_BYTESfor the ~6.3 KB smem requirement - Same grid as standalone implicit GEMM bench:
(grid_m, grid_n, 1)× 128 threads - Same correctness check; FP16 weight conversion adds slight precision loss
but stays within
1e-2*sqrt(C)AND-logic tolerance
Result:
| config | conv2d_nhwc | implicit_gemm | speedup |
|---|---|---|---|
| N=1 C=64 H=W=32 G=8 (small) | 1.057 ms (143 GFLOPS) | 0.586 ms (258 GFLOPS) | 1.80\u00d7 |
| N=1 C=128 H=W=64 G=16 (medium SD) | 9.576 ms (252 GFLOPS) | 1.932 ms (1251 GFLOPS) | 4.96\u00d7 |
| N=1 C=320 H=W=32 G=32 (SD UNet) | 13.068 ms (289 GFLOPS) | 1.864 ms (2025 GFLOPS) | 7.01\u00d7 |
Speedup grows with problem size — larger Cin/Cout/M means more amortization of WMMA fragment fixed costs.
Impact on issue #4 (GroupNorm fusion):
Before this swap, GN+Conv fusion's projected savings (~1 MB DRAM round-trip saved per pair, ~3 \u03bcs at 608 GB/s, vs. 13 ms ResBlock) was ~0.02% \u2014 tiny but not zero. After the swap, ResBlock is 1.86 ms total. GN fusion would still save ~3 \u03bcs but is now competing for time within a 1.86 ms budget where the conv2d itself is the bulk \u2014 making fusion effectively 0.16% improvement.
Closed #4 as not-planned. The GN+Conv fusion idea was correct in spirit (eliminate redundant DRAM passes) but the wrong target: the bigger redundant DRAM pass was inside the conv (9\u00d7 reread), not between GN and conv. Implicit GEMM eliminates that with no fusion needed.
Generalization (Law 2 reinforced): before optimizing FLOPS, count DRAM passes. A kernel reading every byte 9 times is not a 9\u00d7 compute problem; it's a 9\u00d7 bandwidth problem disguised as compute. The structural fix (use a kernel that doesn't reread) beats microscopic FFMA tuning by order(s) of magnitude.
Observation S — Bc=128 with v2's smem savings still loses (occupancy gates tile size)
Hypothesis: After v2's smem reduction (32 KB → 24 KB at Bc=64), doubling to Bc=128 fits in 48 KB → 2 blocks/SM. The bigger inner-K tile would mean:
- 2× HMMA per phase B/D (better pipeline depth)
- 2× fewer outer KV iterations (less kernel-level overhead)
- Same Q register cache amortization
This was infeasible on the original kernel (would have been 64 KB → 1 block/SM, the cliff).
Test: flash_attn_br16_v2_bc128.cu — identical to flash_attn_br16_v2.cu
except Bc=128, TILES_Bc=8, __launch_bounds__(128, 2).
Result (3-run mean across 4 sizes, RTX 3070 Ti):
| seq | b | h | v2 (Bc=64, 12 warps) | v2_bc128 (Bc=128, 8 warps) | v2_pipeline (Bc=64, 8 warps) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 512 | 16 | 16 | 1.747 ms (10024 GFLOPS) | 1.888 ms (9279) | 1.524 ms (11494) |
| 1024 | 8 | 8 | 1.757 ms (9972) | 1.875 ms (9341) | 1.528 ms (11462) |
| 2048 | 4 | 8 | 3.455 ms (10139) | 3.669 ms (9549) | 3.021 ms (11596) |
| 4096 | 2 | 8 | 7.370 ms (9506) | 7.255 ms (9657) | 6.007 ms (11663) |
Result is regime-dependent, not uniformly negative:
- Bc=128 loses 5.8-7.4% at seq ∈ {512, 1024, 2048}
- Bc=128 wins 1.6% at seq=4096
- Bc=128 loses 19-23% to v2_pipeline at same 2 blocks/SM occupancy at all sizes
Interpretation:
At small/medium seq the occupancy hit (12 → 8 warps) dominates: warp scheduler runs out of slack to hide K/V load latency, so the kernel is warp-parallelism-bound and bigger tile cannot recover.
At seq=4096 the iteration count is high enough (32 outer iters at Bc=128 vs 64 at Bc=64) that halving outer-iter count amortizes the kernel-level prologue and
__syncthreadscost enough to overcome the occupancy hit. Crossover lies somewhere between seq=2048 and seq=4096.At the same 2 blocks/SM regime, cp.async double-buffering (v2_pipeline) beats Bc=128 at all sizes. The win is from overlapping K/V loads with HMMA, not from doing more HMMA per iter. cp.async addresses the warp- parallelism shortage; bigger tile does not.
Generalization (Law 3 nuanced): tile size is subordinate to occupancy AND to the load-compute overlap mechanism, BUT also interacts with iteration count. "Bigger tile loses" is true only when iteration count is low; at high iteration count the per-iter overhead amortizes the occupancy hit. The right tool when crossing an occupancy boundary is still cp.async (overlap), but the tile-size loss is regime-dependent, not absolute.
Kernel kept as flash_attn_br16_v2_bc128.cu (counter-example, like
the padding regressions in Observation O).
Implication for future work:
- A Bc=128 + cp.async double-buffer variant would need 80 KB smem (32 K + 32 V double-buffered + 16 weight) — over the 50 KB cliff, so 1 block/SM (4 warps). Almost certainly catastrophic.
- For very-large-seq workloads (≥4096) the Bc=128 v2 kernel can be considered as a dispatch alternative — small win, but real.
- The plateau at ~11.5 TFLOPS (6.6% of FP16 peak) appears genuinely difficult to break with naive tile-size or pipeline-depth tweaks across all regimes. Regime-specific dispatching may be the practical answer.
Observation T — Cymatic memory layout: angle-dependent gather locality on real DRAM
Date: 2026-05-07
Phase: memory layout study (kernels/memory_layout/cymatic/)
Headline: layout aligned with Chladni-mode antinodes gives +1.53× gather throughput at sector midlines, −1.89× at sector boundaries on RTX 3070 Ti, GRID=2048² (13 MB DRAM-resident buffer).
Setup
A clamped circular membrane mode u_{n,m}(r,θ) = J_n(k_{n,m}·r) · cos(n·θ)
partitions the disc into antinode regions of constant sign. For mode (6, 4):
12 angular sectors, 4 radial bands, ~35 regions of size 2 to 2103 cells (1051×
size ratio).
We map a 1D address space onto these regions via (centroid_r, centroid_θ)
ordering, raster-fill within each region. Two layouts of the same data:
row-major-inside vs cymatic-permuted. Run the same gather kernel on both, time
each, compare effective bandwidth.
Measured results (GRID=2048², DRAM regime)
| trace | speedup | reason |
|---|---|---|
radial_mid_pi6 (θ=π/6 midline) |
1.53× cym | Trace stays in one angular sector; cymatic addresses near-contiguous |
radial_bnd_pi4 (θ=π/4 boundary) |
0.54× cym (1.85× row) | Trace on nodal line; adjacent cells in opposite-sign regions |
radial_bnd_5pi12 (boundary) |
0.53× cym (1.89× row) | Same |
circular_r030 (small radius circle) |
1.38× cym | Stays in one radial band; intra-band θ-ordering gives locality |
circular_r060 (large radius circle) |
1.12× cym | Mild win |
polar_tile_pi6/pi4 |
0.98–1.03× | Tie — wedge spans multiple regions |
radial_bias_07/00, random |
1.00–1.07× | Tie — large random working set |
rowmajor_full (sequential) |
0.66× cym (1.51× row) | Row layout's native pattern |
Insight 1: Layout amplifies its mode geometry
For mode (n=6), cos(6θ) zeros at θ = π/12 + k·π/6 (boundaries) and maxima
at θ = k·π/6 (midlines). Radial trace at midline → trace inside one sector
through all m=4 radial bands → cymatic addresses near-contiguous. Radial
trace at boundary → trace exactly on nodal line → adjacent (i, j) cells are
in entirely different sign regions → addresses jump between disjoint
ranges.
Worst-case slowdown (1.89×) and best-case speedup (1.53×) are similar in magnitude. The layout is conditional, not universal.
Insight 2: Cache regime matters — DRAM scale required for measurement
| GRID | n_inside | buffer | regime | typical speedup spread |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 256² | 50K | 0.2 MB | L1/L2 | 0.78–1.34× (most ties) |
| 512² | 200K | 0.8 MB | L2 | 0.89–1.40× (most ties) |
| 1024² | 821K | 3.3 MB | L2 boundary | 0.63–1.86× (variable) |
| 2048² | 3.3M | 13 MB | DRAM | 0.53–1.53× (sharp) |
Below DRAM scale, post-warmup all accesses become L2 hits regardless of physical layout, so locality differences don't show. The 2048² results are the meaningful measurement.
Insight 3: Static R metric was wrong about circular sweeps
The R locality metric (scripts/cymatic/cymatic_analyze.R) predicted circular
sweeps at fixed r should hurt cymatic ("adjacent θ → different angular
sectors → address jumps"). The CUDA bench measured the opposite: circular
sweeps tie or favor cymatic.
Reason: cymatic regions are ordered by (centroid_r, centroid_θ). All
regions in one radial band sit in a contiguous address range with
addresses sorted by θ within the band. A circular trace at fixed r stays
in one radial band the entire time → scans through θ-sorted regions →
addresses roughly monotone, not random.
The static metric over individual cell pairs missed the effect of region-level address ordering. Locality through ordering of non-adjacent items, not just through adjacency. A failure mode for the analytical metric corrected only by real-hardware measurement.
Methodology lessons
- Mean-of-5 timing is unstable for sub-100μs kernels — initial 1024² runs gave 0.55–1.86× variance for the same trace. Fixed by switching to median-of-11 with auto-scaled iters (target 5 ms/kernel ≫ 10 μs event timer noise).
c(qi, ni)flood fill is O(N²·log N) in R due to vector reallocation on each push. Hung at 2048². Fixed with preallocated queue + linear indexing → O(N²) → 51 s for one-time generation.- "Effective bandwidth >100% of peak" indicates cache hits, not measurement error. The buffer is reused across iters; post-warmup small-trace kernels hit L1+L2 mostly. Reported BW is aggregate throughput, not pure DRAM.
Where this could pay off
- Diffusion-model 2D attention with rotational position bias — pixels with similar angular position attend to each other; cymatic radial bands naturally express this.
- FFT butterfly buffers — stage-k butterflies have stride 2^k pattern; mode (n, m≈log₂N) might align region boundaries with butterfly groups.
- Polar warp intermediate buffers — radar, lidar, panoramic images.
- Spherical harmonics (l, m) coefficient layouts.
Limits
- Cannot beat row-major on row-major-native sequential scans (1.5× loss).
- Boundary-aligned access patterns are catastrophic (1.9× loss).
- Mode selection is a workload-dependent parameter, not universal.
- Generation cost: 11 s at 1024², 51 s at 2048² (one-time R precompute).
- Lookup table cost: 4 bytes × N² for the permutation. 16 MB at 2048².
Conclusion
The cymatic layout is a real physical phenomenon on real GPU hardware, not just an analytical curiosity. It is conditional (geometry-dependent), not universal. For a fixed workload with known access geometry it is a real tool — search over (n, m, α) modes to maximize measured speedup. For generic workloads, row-major remains safer.
The most striking finding is the symmetry between best win (1.53×) and worst loss (1.89×). The layout doesn't add cycles or remove cycles overall — it redistributes them across access patterns, amplifying some and demolishing others. Use it when you can choose the access pattern. Avoid it when you cannot.
Files: kernels/memory_layout/cymatic/{gen_cymatic_data.R, bench.cu, Makefile, results/}, scripts/cymatic_{mapping,analyze,visualize}.R,
docs/cymatic_memory_mapping.md, docs/figures/cymatic/cymatic_*.png.
Observation U — NCU profiling overturns three long-held assumptions
TL;DR: First measured-counter sweep across canonical kernels (issue #89, 2026-05-08, GPU performance counters newly enabled on the Windows host). Three core assumptions were wrong. The bottleneck for Flash Attention is smem traffic, not HMMA pipeline stalls. Split-Q (#84) addresses a non-bottleneck for the b=8/h=8/seq=1024 shape.
What I measured
scripts/profile/ncu_profile_all.sh ran 10 kernel configs with 15 metrics each
(launch-skip 5 --launch-count 1, see scripts/profile/ncu_profile.R):
occupancy, Tensor Core util, L1/L2 hit rates, DRAM bandwidth, coalescing
quality, and 8 stall-reason histograms (per-issue cycles).
Full results in results/ncu/all.csv and tabulated in
docs/ncu_metrics.md. Headline rows below.
Headline measurements (per-issue stall cycles, higher = worse)
| kernel | occ% | TC% | L2 hit% | wait | mio | short_sb | math_throttle | barrier |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| FA v2 baseline | 24.2 | 12.1 | 91.4 | 1.08 | 7.87 | 2.39 | 1.12 | 1.55 |
| FA v2 pipeline | 16.4 | 13.9 | 91.6 | 0.93 | 6.89 | 5.41 | 1.44 | 2.35 |
| FA v2 persistent | 17.1 | 11.2 | 89.4 | 1.08 | 4.66 | 2.37 | 0.97 | 0.92 |
| FA regpv (legacy) | 24.3 | 8.6 | 94.9 | 1.48 | 4.90 | 5.47 | 0.82 | 1.70 |
| HGEMM 16-warp | 65.1 | 46.3 | 76.4 | 2.63 | 3.47 | 2.21 | 35.46 | 5.33 |
| HGEMM 16-warp+epi | 65.4 | 26.1 | 64.9 | 2.36 | 20.98 | 16.82 | 5.91 | 17.32 |
| HGEMM 256x128 | 33.3 | 26.1 | 74.1 | 3.29 | 24.01 | 6.03 | 15.12 | 16.06 |
| Sparse INT8 GEMM | 65.4 | 14.0 | 77.7 | 2.50 | 10.71 | 1.54 | 0.45 | 2.99 |
| Cross-attn v2 | 21.0 | 10.5 | 87.0 | 1.07 | 6.18 | 2.75 | 0.99 | 1.05 |
| ResBlock implicit | 14.5 | 3.2 | 98.2 | 2.40 | 0 | 1.06 | 0.24 | 0.56 |
(stall_long_sb = DRAM-latency stall — was ≤2.6 everywhere except sparse
IGEMM 10.5 and ResBlock 5.1, never the dominant factor.)
Three assumptions overturned
1. HMMA S08 is NOT the dominant FA bottleneck
Long-held belief: "Flash Attention plateau at 11.5 TFLOPS = 6.6% peak is
HMMA-bound. S08 stall between consecutive HMMAs is hardware-fixed, can't
be reduced." See docs/comparison_to_sota.md and prior gpu_reflections.md
prose.
Measured: stall_wait (HMMA S08 + dependency wait) is 0.93 per-issue
cycles for FA v2 pipeline. stall_mio (memory IO unit throttle, smem
traffic) is 6.89 — 7.4× larger. stall_short_sb (smem/L1
latency) is 5.41 — another 5.8×.
The plateau is smem-traffic-bound, not HMMA-bound. The cumulative
stall_mio + stall_short_sb = 12.3 cycles per issue dominate everything
else combined. HMMA pipeline is mostly waiting on smem, not vice versa.
This refutes the premise of issue #84 (split-Q). Split-Q addresses SM starvation; we have 22× block oversubscription at b=8/h=8/seq=1024 and 91.6% L2 hit rate, so DRAM is not the wall either.
2. HGEMM 16-warp's gap is FFMA pipe oversubscription, not Tensor Core
Long-held belief: "HGEMM at 18.3% of FP16 TC peak — Tensor Cores are the limit, need more cp.async overlap or bigger tiles."
Measured: TC util is actually 46.3% (not 18.3%). The 18.3% number
was achieved-throughput / nominal-peak; 46.3% is the cycle-fraction the
TCs were busy. The gap between cycle-busy and FLOPS-throughput is
stall_math_throttle = 35.46 — far the dominant stall.
stall_math_throttle = FFMA/INT pipe oversubscription. Means the kernel
is issuing FFMA (probably for accumulator scale or epilogue) faster than
the FP32 ALUs can retire. The Tensor Cores are running at near-half
their cycle ceiling, but every other instruction is stuck behind FFMA.
Right fix: find and reduce the FFMA chain, probably in the epilogue or accumulator manipulation. Not bigger tiles. Not more pipelining.
3. HGEMM epilogue variant pays massive smem + barrier cost
hgemm_16warp_epi was supposed to be a smarter epilogue (write-fused).
Measured: TC util drops 46% → 26% relative to plain 16-warp, and three
stalls explode:
stall_mio3.47 → 20.98 (6×)stall_short_sb2.21 → 16.82 (7.6×)stall_barrier5.33 → 17.32 (3.3×)
The "fused epilogue" routes accumulator data through smem with extra
syncs. Cost is larger than the savings. Production HGEMM should stay on
plain hgemm_16warp until the epilogue's smem path is rewritten (or
direct-to-global like fragment-shfl pattern from Observation P).
Surprises that need follow-up
- FA pipeline coalescing:
load_coalesce_bytes = 16 / 32(half perfect). Baseline + persistent both achieve 31. Pipeline cp.async is somehow losing coalescing. Worth tracing. - Sparse IGEMM L1 hit 83%: anomalously high. Index/mask buffers cached in L1? Or workload regime? Recheck.
- ResBlock implicit 3.2% TC util despite 7.01× speedup headline: the workload (b=1, 320ch, 32×32) is so small it can't fill the GPU. 14.5% occupancy. Headline speedup came from killing 9× re-reads of input, not from utilization. Confirms Observation R framing.
- FA regpv higher occupancy (24.3%) but lower TC util (8.6%) than v2 pipeline (16.4% / 13.9%): occupancy alone is not predictive. Pipeline trades occupancy for cp.async overlap and gets more useful work out of fewer warps.
Reprioritization (post-measurement)
Before this measurement, the open issue queue was ordered by the
comparison_to_sota.md analytic estimates. Three of the top issues are
now suspect:
- #84 Split-Q FA — addresses a non-bottleneck at the documented bench shape. L2 hit 91.6%, no DRAM problem. Block count saturates SMs ~22×. Reframe to target small-batch decoding regime, OR close as not-planned for trained-attention shapes.
- #85 4-stage cp.async pipeline HGEMM — TC util already 46% on 16-warp, gap is FFMA throttle not memory. Pipelining more loads won't help. Re-evaluate after hunting the FFMA chain.
- #88 XOR-swizzled smem — was deprioritized via reasoning earlier
(Observation O follow-up). Measurement now promotes it: stall_mio
- stall_short_sb is the dominant FA stall. Bank conflicts under XOR swizzle eliminate the +8 padding tax that may be feeding short_sb. Worth revisiting.
New top candidates:
- Hunt the FFMA chain in HGEMM 16-warp (35.46 cycles in
stall_math_throttle). Could close most of the 46% → 100% TC util gap. - Reduce smem traffic in FA v2 pipeline (
stall_mio = 6.89,stall_short_sb = 5.41). Candidates: XOR swizzle (#88), or extend fragment-shfl pattern (docs/fragment_shfl_reductions.md) to the K/V load path. - Investigate HGEMM 16-warp+epi regression —
stall_barrier = 17.32suggests an over-syncing epilogue. Easy diagnostic.
Methodology
Counters were gated on WSL2 until the Windows host was reconfigured:
NVIDIA Control Panel → Developer Settings → Manage GPU Performance Counters
→ "Allow access to all users". After reboot, counters opened to the
WSL-side ncu binary.
Harness: scripts/profile/ncu_profile.R (single kernel) +
scripts/profile/ncu_profile_all.sh (sweep). Validation: all 15 metric names
were checked against ncu --query-metrics --chip ga104 before the first
run, and the parser was tested on synthetic CSV.
Discipline: each kernel measured with --launch-skip 5 --launch-count 1
in the same warmup regime as the standard benchmark. Single-launch
capture is noisy — re-run multiple times for any number used in a
publication. The numbers in this observation are first-pass; any
follow-up that depends on the precise stall count should re-measure with
--launch-count 5 and average.
Lesson: trust measurement over reasoning when the measurement is available. The architecture doc, the gap analysis, and at least three prior observations were partly wrong about Flash Attention's bottleneck. Reasoning gave us "HMMA-bound"; counters say "smem-bound". Both can be true simultaneously, but the measured ratio is smem stalls dominate HMMA stalls 13×. Not close.
Files: scripts/profile/ncu_profile.R, scripts/profile/ncu_profile_all.sh,
docs/ncu_metrics.md, results/ncu/all.csv.
Observation V — HGEMM IMAD-chain hypothesis falsified
TL;DR: Built hgemm_16warp_aligned.cu (drops partial-tile branches,
assumes M/N/K aligned to BM/BN/BK). Cubin instruction count: IMAD 139 →
106 (-24%), ISETP 45 → 4 (-91%), BRA 15 → 6 (-60%). Performance
delta: 1.01× — flat.
NCU on the aligned variant: stall_math_throttle actually rose 35.46 →
41.74, stall_long_sb jumped 1.01 → 12.56, stall_barrier 5.33
→ 20.66. TC util 46.3% → 44.4%. DRAM read BW 168 → 286 GB/s.
What this tells us
math_pipe_throttleis HMMA queue pressure, not IMAD chain. Even with 24% fewer IMADs and 91% fewer ISETPs, the math throttle metric went up, not down. On Ampere,math_pipe_throttleincludes the Tensor Math Pipe — at 46% TC busy, HMMAs themselves are queueing into a saturated pipe.Aligned compiler unrolling exposes DRAM. The compiler doubled the HMMA count in the cubin (32 → 64) because it could fully unroll the K loop without per-iteration branch sites. More in-flight HMMAs need more A/B fragments → more LDGSTS → DRAM saturated faster → L2 misses exposed (hit rate 76.4% → 68.6%). The aligned variant is genuinely faster at the math level but the freed cycles get burned in memory-latency stalls instead.
The real HGEMM 16-warp wall is HMMA issue rate, not anything above it. At 46% TC util with
stall_wait = 2.63(HMMA dependency wait is low), the Tensor Cores are issuing at near-maximum sustained rate given the kernel's HMMA dependency graph. Closing the 46% → 100% gap requires either:- Reducing inter-HMMA dependencies (different accumulator structure, smaller fragments, more parallel HMMA chains)
- SASS-level instruction scheduling (CuAssembler hand-tune, issue #96)
- More work per fragment-load (bigger K, Bc to amortize loads)
None of these are about address arithmetic.
What was right and what was wrong
The original NCU observation (Observation U) correctly identified
stall_math_throttle as the dominant FA stall, but the mechanism
attribution was wrong: I attributed it to "FFMA pipe oversubscription"
based on the metric description ("FFMA/INT/FP pipe oversubscription").
The actual contributor here is the Tensor Math Pipe component of that
same metric.
Ampere's NCU stall reasons are coarse-grained — math_pipe_throttle
covers FMA, ALU, FP64, ADU, and Tensor Math. Without separation, a
high value points only at "some math pipe is over-subscribed".
Distinguishing requires SASS-level instruction histograms (which kernel
op count is high) cross-referenced against the throttle metric.
In retrospect: the SASS histogram already gave the answer. 64 HMMA in
the aligned variant vs 32 HMMA in the baseline, both with
math_pipe_throttle ≈ 35-42. If IMAD were the cause, doubling HMMA
(while cutting IMAD 24%) would have reduced math throttle. It didn't.
Therefore HMMA dominates the metric.
Lesson
Coarse stall metrics are necessary but not sufficient. Pair them with SASS instruction histograms before deciding what to optimize. A hypothesis that "instruction X causes stall Y" is testable by changing X and re-measuring Y; in this case, the test was clean (24% IMAD reduction, ISETP 91% gone, BRA 60% gone) and the metric refused to move. Hypothesis falsified.
Reprioritization (from-Observation-V)
- HGEMM 16-warp is at its single-block-config ceiling. The next meaningful HGEMM optimization isn't "reduce IMAD chain" or "better pipelining" — it's structural: split-K with cross-block reduction (issue #87), persistent grid (#86), or SASS hand-tuning (#96).
hgemm_16warp_alignedis preserved as a counterexample — slightly faster (1.01×), demonstrates aligned-only path, useful reference for future variants. Not promoted to canonical because the aligned precondition limits applicability.
Files
kernels/gemm/hgemm/hgemm_16warp_aligned.cu— counterexample variantkernels/gemm/hgemm/hgemm_16warp_aligned.sm_86.cubin— built artifactkernels/gemm/hgemm/bench_aligned.cu— A/B comparison harnessresults/ncu/hgemm_imad.csv— NCU output for aligned variant
Observation W — FA v2 pipeline: 2.4× from +8 smem padding (bank-conflict elimination)
TL;DR: Adding +8 padding to K_tile, V_tile, AND weight_smem row strides
in flash_attn_br16_v2_pipeline.cu delivers 1.85-2.44× speedup across
seq ∈ {256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096}. NCU bank conflict counter dropped
from 95.5M to 279K (-99.7%). TC util rose 13.9% → 36.2%. New canonical
kernel: flash_attn_br16_v2_pipeline_pad2.cu.
This is the single largest optimization win in the project's history, exceeding even the original v2 (1.40×) and pipeline (1.20×) wins.
What was hidden in plain sight
K_tile and V_tile in v2_pipeline are [Bc=64 × D_HEAD=64] FP16 dense
matrices with row stride 64 halfs = 128 bytes. The smem bank period
on Ampere is 32 banks × 4 bytes = 128 bytes. Every ldmatrix.x4 read
of 8 consecutive rows landed on the same banks → 8-way conflict.
NCU counters (issue #89, this session) confirmed:
l1tex__data_bank_conflicts_pipe_lsu_mem_shared.sum: 95.5M conflictsl1tex__data_pipe_lsu_wavefronts_mem_shared_op_ld.sum: 100.7M load wavefronts- Conflict rate: 87.5% of every load wavefront
The kernel was effectively serializing every smem load. This was the
real cause of stall_short_sb = 5.41 and stall_mio = 6.89 — the
dominant FA pipeline stalls per Observation U.
Why issue #80 was wrong to deprioritize this
Issue #80 closed XOR-swizzle exploration based on the reasoning that "LDSM is 4.6% of cubin instructions, warp scheduler hides conflicts at 12 warps". The argument was wrong on two counts:
- Cubin instruction count ≠ runtime cycles spent. 4.6% of instructions can be 50%+ of cycles when each instruction stalls 8× on bank conflicts. The conflict multiplier was uncounted.
- Stage 3 padding (alternative) was tied with v2 within ±3% — but that comparison was between two things both still suffering from the same conflict. Tying broken-vs-broken doesn't validate either as conflict-free.
The correct way to evaluate bank conflicts is to measure the conflict counter directly, not infer from instruction percentages. Once measured, the 87.5% rate was unambiguous.
The fix: +8 padding row stride
K_tile/V_tile: stride 64 halfs (128 B) → 72 halfs (144 B). For ldmatrix.x4 reading 8 consecutive rows, byte offsets become {0, 144, 288, 432, 576, 720, 864, 1008}. Modulo 128 (bank period): {0, 16, 32, 48, 64, 80, 96, 112} — all 8 rows on distinct bank groups. Conflict-free.
weight_smem: same stride 64 → 72 fix. Costs +1 KB per block.
Total smem budget: 40 KB → 45 KB. Still under 50 KB cliff for 2 blocks/SM. Register count actually dropped 140 → 133 (compiler optimization side-effect of removing replay scheduling).
Measurements
| variant | smem | regs | blocks/SM | seq=1024 GFLOPS | speedup |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
v2_pipeline (canonical pre-this-session) |
40 KB | 140 | 2 | 9058 | 1.00× |
v2_pipeline_pad (K/V padded) |
44 KB | 134 | 2 | 14869 | 1.64× |
v2_pipeline_pad2 (K/V/W padded) |
45 KB | 133 | 2 | 21410 | 2.36× |
Cross-seq robustness:
| seq | unpadded | pad1 | pad2 | pad2 / unpadded |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 256 | 7553 | 10038 | 13982 | 1.85× |
| 512 | 8415 | 14158 | 20569 | 2.44× |
| 1024 | 9058 | 14869 | 21410 | 2.36× |
| 2048 | 10125 | 15342 | 20580 | 2.03× |
| 4096 | 10141 | 15343 | 21062 | 2.08× |
NCU counters (seq=1024, b=8, h=8):
| metric | unpadded | pad2 | change |
|---|---|---|---|
| TC util % | 13.87 | 36.20 | +161% |
| L2 hit % | 91.55 | 94.24 | +3% |
| stall_short_sb | 5.41 | 0.30 | -94% |
| stall_mio | 6.89 | 0.33 | -95% |
| stall_math_throttle | 1.44 | 3.21 | +123% (HMMA queue, expected) |
| stall_barrier | 2.35 | 0.58 | -75% |
| bank conflicts (M) | 95.5 | 0.28 | -99.7% |
| conflict rate | 87.5% | 2.2% | -85 pts |
What's the new wall
After pad2, the dominant stall is stall_math_throttle = 3.21 — HMMA
queue pressure (per Observation V, math_pipe_throttle on this kernel
captures Tensor Math Pipe oversubscription). At 36.2% TC util we're
roughly half-saturated; the kernel can issue HMMAs but the Tensor
Cores can't accept them faster than the dependency graph allows.
To break beyond 36% TC util needs more parallelism inside the HMMA chain: smaller fragments, more independent accumulators, or SASS-level reordering (CuAssembler hand-tune, issue #96).
Practical guidance: always pad small-D tensor-core smem buffers
For any FP16 Tensor Core kernel where smem holds a tile with row stride 64 halfs (128 B) or 32 halfs (64 B) — both bank-period multiples — pad the row stride by +8 halfs unconditionally. The cost is small (typically +1-4 KB per block), the win is massive (1.5-2.5× in this case), and the mechanism is purely structural (no algorithm change).
Tile geometries that need this fix in the existing repo:
flash_attn_br16_v2_pipeline.cu(D_HEAD=64) — fixed this session- Same family of v2 kernels (
v2,v2_persistent) — likely benefit - HGEMM kernels: BK=32 (64 B stride for FP16) — needs check
- Cross-attention v2: D_HEAD=64 — likely benefit
- Any other kernel with FP16 tile column count = power-of-2 ≤ 64
Each one is a 5-minute change worth measuring.
Files
kernels/attention/flash_attention/flash_attn_br16_v2_pipeline_pad.cu— pad1 (K/V only), 1.5-1.7× winkernels/attention/flash_attention/flash_attn_br16_v2_pipeline_pad2.cu— new canonical, 1.85-2.44× winkernels/attention/flash_attention/bench_v2_pipeline_pad.cu— A/B/C harnessresults/ncu/fa_pad.csv,results/ncu/fa_pad2.csv— NCU output
Lesson
Trust counters over instruction-percentage heuristics. The conflict counter took 30 seconds to query and made the optimization obvious. We spent multiple prior sessions reasoning about whether bank conflicts mattered using cubin instruction histograms — a lower-resolution proxy that gave the wrong answer.
Pattern this session: NCU + targeted counter queries → instant diagnosis. Without counter access, this kernel would still be at 11.5 TFLOPS.
Headline: FA seq=1024,b=8,h=8 plateau 6.6% peak → 12.3% peak in one session, no algorithm change, ~30 lines of code edits across two new variant files. 2.36× of the 7-8× FA-2 gap closed by smem padding alone.
Observation X — +8 padding pattern generalizes (issue #97)
TL;DR: Applied the +8 row-stride padding from Observation W to three more kernels. All show similar 1.9-2.8× speedups at typical sizes. Cross-attention shows a regime split (loses at very small KV, wins big at typical). Pattern confirmed as broadly applicable.
Kernels touched
| kernel | unpadded GFLOPS | padded GFLOPS | speedup | TC util before/after |
|---|---|---|---|---|
flash_attn_br16_v2 (baseline) |
7913 | 15072 | 1.91× | 12.1% / 22.9% |
flash_attn_br16_v2_pipeline (Obs W) |
9058 | 21410 | 2.36× | 13.9% / 36.2% |
flash_attn_v2_persistent |
7294 | 15187 | 2.08× | 11.2% / 21.2% |
cross_attn_v2 (typical 1024×256) |
5490 | 10480 | 1.91× | 10.5% / 18.3% |
cross_attn_v2 (CLIP-77 256×77) |
1605 | 1229 | 0.77× | regime loss |
(All measured at seq=1024, b=8, h=8 unless noted; NCU rerun for each padded variant.)
Per-kernel files
kernels/attention/flash_attention/flash_attn_br16_v2_pad.cu— baseline paddedkernels/attention/flash_attention/flash_attn_br16_v2_pipeline_pad2.cu— pipeline, full padding (Obs W)kernels/attention/flash_attention/flash_attn_v2_persistent_pad.cu— persistent paddedkernels/attention/cross_attention/cross_attn_v2_pad.cu— cross-attention paddedkernels/attention/flash_attention/bench_v2_{baseline,persistent}_pad.cu— A/B harnesseskernels/attention/cross_attention/bench_v2.cu— extended to include _pad variant
Pipeline still wins largest
The pipeline kernel sees the biggest speedup (2.36×) because it has the most LDSM traffic per iteration: cp.async overlap means more in-flight loads competing for smem bandwidth. When conflicts dominated, pipeline suffered most. Eliminating them frees the biggest absolute amount.
The baseline and persistent kernels achieve the same TC util ceiling (~22%) since neither has cp.async. They're now compute-throttled identically, just less than the pipeline's 36%. The pipeline's additional cp.async overlap remains a real win on top of bank-conflict elimination.
Cross-attention regime split
Cross-attention shows a clear regime split previously documented for v2 vs baseline (insight 4 in CONTINUE_HERE prior session):
| seq_q × seq_kv | v2 (no pad) GFLOPS | v2_pad GFLOPS | pad / v2 |
|---|---|---|---|
| 256 × 77 (CLIP-77) | 1803 | 1229 | 0.68× (loses) |
| 256 × 128 | 2426 | 3080 | 1.27× |
| 512 × 128 | 3695 | 5295 | 1.43× |
| 256 × 256 | 2739 | 1658 | 0.61× (loses, anomalous) |
| 512 × 256 | 4668 | 7106 | 1.52× |
| 1024 × 256 (typical) | 5490 | 10480 | 1.91× |
| 1024 × 512 | 6975 | 12721 | 1.82× |
Pattern: large enough seq_q × seq_kv → padded wins decisively. Below some threshold, padded loses. The 256×256 anomaly (loses despite total work between 256×128 and 512×256) needs follow-up investigation — possibly launch overhead amortizing differently when total blocks (256/64 × 8 × 1 = 32) exactly matches half the SM count.
Production guidance:
if ((size_t)seq_q * seq_kv >= 200000) launch_v2_pad();
else if ((size_t)seq_q * seq_kv >= 50000) launch_v2();
else launch_baseline();
Lesson
A measurement-validated pattern travels well. Once the bank-conflict mechanism was understood (Obs W), applying it to four kernels was mechanical — each took ~10 minutes of editing + ~5 minutes of building
- ~2 minutes of benchmarking. Total session-level investment for this observation: ~1 hour. Speedup leverage: 1.9-2.4× across four canonical kernels.
The compounding effect on aggregate FA workload performance is substantial. If a workload uses some mix of pipeline, baseline, and persistent depending on size, the median speedup is now ~2× without any algorithm change.
Headline numbers (all post-padding)
| kernel | seq=1024 | seq=4096 |
|---|---|---|
| FA v2 baseline_pad | 15.1 TFLOPS | 20.3 TFLOPS |
| FA v2 pipeline_pad2 | 21.4 TFLOPS | 21.1 TFLOPS |
| FA v2 persistent_pad | 15.2 TFLOPS | (untested) |
12.3% of FP16 TC peak is now the v2 pipeline plateau, up from 6.6%.
The next ceiling is compute-throttle (stall_math_throttle 1.4-3.2)
which corresponds to HMMA queue saturation — only addressable via
SASS-level instruction reordering (issue #96).
Observation Y — HGEMM bank conflict audit + epi variant fix (issues #98, #99)
TL;DR: NCU bank-conflict counter validated hgemm_16warp (0.17%
conflict rate) — existing PAD_A=8 PAD_B=8 is correct. But
hgemm_16warp_epi (a fork that pre-dated the padding) had 75.9%
conflict rate. Adding the same padding gives 1.41× speedup (18.0 →
25.4 TFLOPS at 4096³ HGEMM). Closes both issues.
#98: hgemm_16warp audit — confirms existing padding works
NCU on hgemm_16warp (4096³, B=4096):
| metric | value |
|---|---|
| bank_conflicts (sum) | 133K |
| load wavefronts (sum) | 80M |
| conflict rate | 0.17% |
Existing PAD_A=8 PAD_B=8 (giving STRIDE_A=40, STRIDE_B=136) eliminates
bank conflicts as designed. The 35.46 stall_math_throttle measured in
Observation U is genuinely HMMA queue pressure (per Observation V
falsification) — not bank conflicts. Confirms Observation V's null
hypothesis: HGEMM 16-warp is at its single-block-config compute ceiling,
needs SASS hand-tuning (#96) to break further.
#99: hgemm_16warp_epi — bank conflicts were the over-syncing source
NCU on hgemm_16warp_epi (the "fused epilogue" variant):
| metric | unpadded | full pad (PAD_A=8 PAD_B=8) |
|---|---|---|
| bank_conflicts (sum) | 347.9M | 8.9M (-97%) |
| load wavefronts (sum) | 458.3M | 67.6M (-85%) |
| conflict rate | 75.9% | 13.2% |
| TC util % | 26.05 | 31.91 (+22%) |
| stall_short_sb | 16.82 | 0.05 (-99.7%) |
| stall_mio | 20.98 | 5.06 (-76%) |
| stall_barrier | 17.32 | 7.94 (-54%) |
| GFLOPS @ 4096³ | 18029 | 25403 (+41%) |
Root cause: the variant was forked from hgemm_16warp before PAD_A/PAD_B
was added there. Both smem_a (stride 32 halfs = 64 B = ½ bank period) and
smem_b (stride 128 halfs = 256 B = 2× bank period) hit the bank
period exactly, generating 4-way and 8-way LDSM conflicts respectively.
The "over-syncing" interpretation in Observation U was wrong direction: the barrier stalls were a consequence of conflict-throttled smem traffic, not the cause. Eliminating conflicts dropped barrier stall 17 → 8.
Implementation note: smem cap workaround
Padding both buffers raises smem to 53 KB, exceeding the 48 KB static
smem cap on sm_86. The kernel was converted from __shared__ to
extern __shared__ char smem_raw[] with a layout map — host code uses
cuFuncSetAttribute(..., MAX_DYNAMIC_SHARED_SIZE_BYTES, ...) to allow
the larger allocation.
This pushes the kernel to 1 block/SM (53 KB > 50 KB cliff). The conflict-elimination wins (1.41×) outweighs the occupancy loss because the original variant was already memory-throttled at 2 blocks/SM.
Files
kernels/gemm/hgemm/hgemm_16warp_epi_pad.cu— padded variant (dynamic smem)kernels/gemm/hgemm/bench_epi_pad.cu— A/B harnessresults/ncu/99_epi_pad.csv— NCU output- The original
hgemm_16warp_epi.cuis preserved as the counter-example (75.9% conflict rate documented in Observation U).
Pattern emerging across the codebase
| kernel | bank conflict rate | speedup from fix |
|---|---|---|
| FA v2 pipeline | 87.5% → 2.2% | 2.36× (Obs W) |
| FA v2 baseline | (similar) → ~3% | 1.91× (Obs X) |
| FA v2 persistent | (similar) → ~3% | 2.08× (Obs X) |
| Cross-attention v2 (typical) | (similar) → ~3% | 1.91× (Obs X) |
| HGEMM 16-warp | 0.17% (already padded) | n/a |
| HGEMM 16-warp_epi | 75.9% → 13% | 1.41× (this Obs) |
Five of six measured kernels had smem layouts where row stride was a power-of-2 multiple of the bank period. Five of six benefited from padding (the sixth, plain hgemm_16warp, was already padded). The diagnostic-and-fix pattern is now well-established: NCU bank conflict counter + +8 row stride = mechanical 1.4-2.4× wins.
Observation Z — smsp__sass_average_data_bytes_per_sector undercounts cp.async (issue #100)
TL;DR: The load_coalesce_bytes=16 reported on the FA pipeline
variant (vs baseline's 31) is a metric accounting artifact, not a
real coalescing problem. cp.async / LDGSTS instructions are counted
at twice their actual sector consumption by the SASS-level ratio
metric; the L1tex byte/sector counters confirm perfect 32 B/sector
coalescing. Issue closed as non-issue.
Cross-check on raw counters
NCU on FA seq=1024, b=8, h=8:
| metric | baseline (LDG.E) | pipeline_pad2 (LDGSTS.E.128) |
|---|---|---|
l1tex__t_bytes_pipe_lsu_mem_global_op_ld.sum |
285,212,192 | 318,767,104 |
l1tex__t_sectors_pipe_lsu_mem_global_op_ld.sum |
8,912,881 | 9,961,472 |
| bytes/sector (computed manually) | 32.0 | 32.0 |
smsp__sass_average_data_bytes_per_sector_mem_global_op_ld.ratio |
31.06 | 16.00 |
The L1tex counters show identical 32 B/sector for both variants —
both are perfectly coalesced. The SASS-level bytes_per_sector ratio
disagrees with itself: baseline 31.06 vs pipeline 16.00 despite the
raw byte/sector count being identical.
Mechanism
smsp__sass_average_data_bytes_per_sector_mem_global_op_ld.ratio
divides requested bytes by predicted sectors at SASS issue time.
Its sector accounting appears to double-count cp.async (LDGSTS)
because the instruction performs both a global load AND a shared store
in one issue — the metric apparently attributes 2 sector accesses per
L1tex sector for cp.async paths.
Validation method (for future audits)
When the SASS-ratio metric reports an anomaly, always cross-check with raw L1tex counters:
real_bytes_per_sector = l1tex__t_bytes_pipe_lsu_mem_global_op_ld.sum /
l1tex__t_sectors_pipe_lsu_mem_global_op_ld.sum
If real_bytes_per_sector differs from the SASS ratio, trust the
L1tex value. The SASS ratio is misleading on cp.async-heavy kernels.
Implications for prior observations
- Observation U's note that pipeline had
load_coalesce_bytes=16was a tooling miss — the variant's coalescing was always perfect. - The coalescing column in
docs/ncu_metrics.mdshould be annotated with this caveat for cp.async kernels. - The real bottleneck for the pipeline variant was always bank conflicts (Observation W) and HMMA queue pressure, not coalescing.
Diagnostic quality lesson
Three observations into the NCU work (U, V, Z), three of the metrics in the harness needed reinterpretation or were outright misleading:
| metric | issue | resolution |
|---|---|---|
stall_math_throttle |
thought to be address arithmetic | Obs V: HMMA queue pressure |
l1_hit_pct (low on cp.async) |
thought to be cache-bypass loss | expected (cp.async bypasses L1) |
smsp__sass_avg_bytes_per_sector |
thought to be coalescing | Obs Z: under-counts cp.async 2× |
Pattern: SASS-level/SM-level synthetic ratios drift from raw L1tex counters under cp.async. Always pair ratio metrics with raw byte and sector counts to detect tooling artifacts.
Observation AA — useful_pct trends across 103 kernels (issue #90)
TL;DR: Median useful_pct = 12.5%. Across 103 cubins in the repo, only ~12% of SASS instructions on average are doing arithmetic work (HMMA + IMMA + FFMA + FMUL + FADD). The other 88% is address arithmetic, smem traffic, and control flow. Tensor-Core-dense kernels look "low-useful_pct" because each HMMA dispatches 1024 FP16 multiplies under one SASS instruction.
Distribution
NCU/cuobjdump scan via scripts/audit/sass_histogram.R over all .sm_86.cubin
in phase1-phase4 (excluding test_/debug paths):
| quantile | useful_pct |
|---|---|
| 0% | 0.0% |
| 10% | 2.7% |
| 25% | 5.3% |
| 50% | 12.5% |
| 75% | 26.8% |
| 90% | 31.9% |
| 100% | 50.4% |
Per-family means
| family | n | mean useful_pct | max useful_pct |
|---|---|---|---|
| Flash Attention | 32 | 29.2% | 40.8% |
| Activation/norm | 14 | 19.8% | 38.9% |
| Conv2d | 2 | 10.1% | 13.2% |
| HGEMM/SGEMM/IGEMM | 37 | 8.0% | 50.4% |
| Other | 13 | 7.0% | 17.2% |
| Data movement | 5 | 0.0% | 0.0% |
Why FFMA-dense beats HMMA-dense in useful_pct (but not in TFLOPS)
Top kernel by useful_pct: sgemm_register_blocked at 50.4% — pure FP32
register-blocked inner loop with 512 FFMAs in 1016 SASS instructions.
But it runs at FP32, peaking around 21 TFLOPS at most.
Top Tensor Core kernel by useful_pct: flash_attn_br16_v2_bc128 at
40.4%, with 128 HMMAs in 1496 instructions. Each HMMA performs
16x8x16 = 2048 FP16 muladds — so 128 HMMAs do ~262K muladds, while the
512 FFMAs in sgemm_register_blocked do 512 muladds.
Lesson: useful_pct is a good "where is the inefficiency" metric for intra-family comparison (does this GEMM have more bookkeeping than that GEMM?). It is NOT a good cross-architecture/cross-precision metric. A 30% useful_pct kernel using HMMA can outperform a 50% useful_pct kernel using FFMA by 5-10x on the tensor core.
What "0% useful" means
Five kernels showed 0.0% useful_pct: type casts (fp16_to_fp32,
fp32_to_fp16), transposes (transpose_bhsd, transpose_bshd),
im2col_nhwc_fp16. These are pure data movement — they do no
multiply-add. The instruction mix is LDG/STG/IMAD/STS only. Optimizing
"useful_pct" on these would mean inserting useless arithmetic; instead,
optimize for memory bandwidth (dram__bytes_* per launch) and L2 hit
rate.
Bottom of the GEMM family
| kernel | useful_pct | total_inst |
|---|---|---|
wmma_gemm_conv |
1.5% | 544 |
implicit_gemm_conv |
1.2% | 672 |
hgemm_sparse_naive |
0.4% | 456 |
These are bookkeeping-bound. The naive sparse hgemm has 8x more ISETP/IMAD/BRA than HMMA — most of the kernel is unpacking the sparse metadata format. Targets for #96 (SASS hand-tune) or for algorithmic rewrites.
Practical rule of thumb on GA104
- High-performing TC kernel: 25-40% useful_pct, mostly HMMA-driven
- High-performing scalar kernel: 40-50% useful_pct (FFMA-driven)
- Below 5% useful_pct on a compute kernel: structural bug —
the bookkeeping is doing all the work. Look for missing
#pragma unroll, shared-memory thrash, or dynamic indexing that prevents constant folding.
Files
scripts/audit/sass_histogram.R— scanner (replaces deleted Python original)data/sass_histogram.csv— full per-kernel datadocs/sass_histogram.md— Markdown table sorted by useful_pctdocs/figures/sass_histogram.png— top-40 stacked bar visualization
Method
Each cubin is disassembled with cuobjdump -sass, opcodes are matched
in priority order to one of 25 categories, and useful_pct is the
sum of (HMMA + IMMA + FFMA + FMUL + FADD) over total. The figure groups
the 25 categories into 9 visual families. Re-run with:
Rscript scripts/audit/sass_histogram.R --quiet
Observation BB — measured roofline reveals all kernels are compute-limited (#92)
TL;DR: Replacing estimated operational intensity with NCU-measured DRAM bytes shows that every measured kernel sits well above the DRAM ceiling. The bottleneck is uniformly the compute pipeline (HMMA queue, LDSM throttling), not bandwidth. This vindicates the +8 padding work (Obs W/X/Y) which closed compute-side stalls without touching DRAM.
Measured numbers (10 kernels)
| kernel | precision | OI_DRAM | OI_L2 | achieved GFLOPS | % of ceiling |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| HGEMM 16-warp (4096³) | FP16 | 162 | 42 | 29751 | 17.1% |
| Sparse INT8 GEMM (4096³) | INT8 | 126 | 34 | 18035 | 5.2% |
| HGEMM 16-warp+epi (4096³) | FP16 | 162 | 62 | 16730 | 9.6% |
| HGEMM 256x128 (4096³) | FP16 | 274 | 82 | 16073 | 9.2% |
| FA v2 pipeline (seq=1024) | FP16 | 412 | 57 | 8892 | 5.1% |
| FA v2 baseline (seq=1024) | FP16 | 413 | 58 | 7773 | 4.5% |
| FA v2 persistent (seq=1024) | FP16 | 411 | 57 | 7227 | 4.2% |
| Cross-attn v2 (1024 q, 256 kv) | FP16 | 168 | 45 | 6417 | 3.7% |
| FA regpv (legacy) | FP16 | 242 | 31 | 5554 | 3.2% |
| ResBlock implicit GEMM (320ch) | FP16 | 420 | 19 | 2092 | 1.2% |
Regime classification
At GA104's 608 GB/s DRAM, the DRAM ceiling crosses the FP16 TC peak (174 TFLOPS) at OI = 286. Every kernel measured has OI_DRAM ≥ 126, sitting above the DRAM-only line for some ceiling. No kernel is DRAM-bound.
| OI_DRAM range | regime |
|---|---|
| > 286 (FP16 TC peak) | compute-bound (DRAM ceiling at peak; can't go higher) |
| 126-286 | DRAM-shifted compute-bound (DRAM ceiling > achieved, headroom on DRAM) |
The L2 ceiling (~3 TB/s) crosses FP16 peak at OI ~58. Most kernels have OI_L2 between 30 and 80 — the L2 traffic is closer to the L2 ceiling than DRAM is to its ceiling, but everyone is still well below both.
Why every kernel is compute-limited
Two compounding reasons documented earlier:
HMMA queue throttling (Observation V): GA104's tensor pipe has 8-cycle issue latency between consecutive HMMAs, hard-capping HMMA-dense kernels at ~46% TC util.
LDSM stalls absent padding (Observations U, W, Y): the kernels that ARE close to peak (HGEMM 16-warp at 17%) had this fixed already; the others (FA, cross-attn) reached 12-15% peak after padding (Obs X).
The roofline formalises what we already saw: bandwidth is not the limiter. The forensic NCU work in U/V/W/Y/Z all pointed at the compute pipeline; this measurement makes the conclusion explicit and visible.
Outliers: ResBlock and Sparse INT8
ResBlock (1.2% peak): OI_DRAM = 420 yet only 2 TFLOPS. Both ceilings are far above. Hypothesis: tile-shape mismatch or low HMMA density. NCU shows TC util = 3.19% (vs 14% on the FA family). Big optimization target.
Sparse INT8 (5.2% of dense INT8 peak; 10.4% if you credit 2:4 sparsity): respectable but should be far higher. NCU shows TC util = 14% only. Would benefit from #96 (SASS hand-tune of IMMA control codes, S04 → S02 pattern).
Why the previous (estimated) roofline was misleading
The current docs/figures/roofline.png used 2·M·N·K / (M·K + K·N + M·N) style estimates. For HGEMM 16-warp at 4096³:
- Estimated OI: 2·4096³ / (3·4096²·2 B) = 1365 (assumes one-shot DRAM)
- Measured OI: 162 (8.4× lower!)
The estimated number assumes each byte hits DRAM exactly once. Reality: HGEMM tile reuse means the L2 carries most traffic. Measured DRAM is what really matters for the bandwidth ceiling. The estimated roofline was placing kernels too far right, making them look artificially compute-bound.
After correction, kernels are still compute-bound — but the measured distance to the DRAM ceiling is much smaller (factor 5-10× less headroom than estimated). This means DRAM optimization could matter in some regimes, just less than previously thought.
Files
scripts/profile/roofline_measured.R— generates this analysis fromresults/ncu/all.csvscripts/profile/ncu_profile.R— extended in this commit withdram_{read,write}_bytes,l2_bytes,duration_ns,hmma_count,tensor_count,alu_countdocs/figures/roofline_measured.png— the figuredocs/roofline_measured.md— per-kernel data table
Re-run
bash scripts/profile/ncu_profile_all.sh # refresh results/ncu/all.csv
Rscript scripts/profile/roofline_measured.R
Observation CC — register pressure audit, 0 spills across 103 kernels (#91)
TL;DR: cuobjdump --dump-resource-usage across all 103 cubins
shows zero register spills anywhere. The aggressive end of the
register-budget curve (IGEMM 256x256 at 255 regs/thread, hgemm_256x128
at 124×512) is sitting at 97-99.6% of the SM's 65,536-register
register file but never overflows. Tight management.
Audit results
| metric | value |
|---|---|
| total kernels | 103 |
| spillers (LOCAL > 0) | 0 |
dynamic-smem kernels (extern __shared__) |
11 |
| median regs/thread | 64 |
| 90th-pct regs/thread | 168 |
| max regs/thread | 255 (sm_86 hard cap) |
Block-budget cliff: 8 register-saturated kernels
These kernels hit the register file ceiling (1 block/SM) due to register pressure alone, not smem:
| kernel | regs | block_size | regs/block | % SM regs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| igemm_8warp_256x256 | 255 | 256 | 65280 | 99.6% |
| igemm_warp_specialized | 255 | 256 | 65280 | 99.6% |
| hgemm_256x128 | 124 | 512 | 63488 | 96.9% |
| igemm_online_quant | 239 | 256 | 61184 | 93.4% |
| igemm_persistent | 234 | 256 | 59904 | 91.4% |
| igemm_online_quant_inplace | 213 | 256 | 54528 | 83.2% |
| igemm_online_quant_bankfree | 211 | 256 | 54016 | 82.4% |
| igemm_8warp_256 | 210 | 256 | 53760 | 82.0% |
Each uses 80-100% of the SM register file at its launch_bounds. They cannot get to 2 blocks/SM without dropping register count or block size. The IGEMM family is register-bound — not smem-bound, not spill-bound — and reducing register count is the only path to higher occupancy.
Cross-check with previous observations
| kernel | this audit | prior claim | match |
|---|---|---|---|
flash_attn_br16_v2_pipeline_pad2 |
133 regs, theo 3 blocks/SM | "2 blocks/SM" (Obs W) | ✓ launch_bounds clamps at 2 |
hgemm_16warp_epi_pad |
124 regs, dynamic smem | "1 block/SM, 53 KB smem" (Obs Y) | ✓ smem clamps below register budget |
hgemm_16warp |
64 regs, 37 KB smem | "2 blocks/SM, 32 warps/SM" (Obs U) | ✓ |
Implications for #96 SASS hand-tune target selection
Top candidates for SASS hand-tuning (#96, blocked by #101) given the audit:
HGEMM 16-warp (64 regs) — has register headroom. Could trade more registers for fewer reloads, but already at the HMMA queue-pressure ceiling (Obs V). SASS-side reordering, not register reallocation, is the path.
IGEMM 8warp_256 family — register-saturated but 0 spill. Hand-tuning the IMMA control codes (S04 → S02, see Phase 5 results in the issue) could give +1.6% per IMMA according to past experiments. This is the cleanest target.
FA v2 pipeline_pad2 — 133 regs at 2 blocks/SM. Has register headroom. Worth investigating whether HMMA-issue scheduling can be tightened.
Tooling
scripts/audit/reg_audit.R— the audit (256 lines)data/register_audit.csv— full per-kernel datadocs/register_audit.md— Markdown report
The launch_bounds parser handles the common pattern of macro-defined
block sizes (__launch_bounds__(NUM_WARPS * WARP_SIZE, 2)) by
extracting #define directives from the same .cu and resolving
them iteratively. 67/103 kernels resolved their block size this way;
the remaining 36 didn't have __launch_bounds__ (default 1024).
Re-run
Rscript scripts/audit/reg_audit.R
Observation DD — persistent dispatch falsified for compute-bound GEMM (#86)
TL;DR: The claim that "persistent grid + cooperative work distribution
gives ~1.15× across all GEMM kernels" (docs/comparison_to_sota.md) is
not supported by measurement on HGEMM 16-warp. Across 6 problem
sizes from 1024³ to 8192³ + skinny variants, geomean speedup is
0.988× (regression). The only modest win is at 1024³ (1.072×).
Following the diagnostic-first principle (Obs U/V/Z), this hypothesis
joins the falsified pile.
Test setup
- Kernel: hgemm_16warp (the canonical HGEMM, +8 padded, 2 blocks/SM).
- Persistent variant:
kernels/gemm/hgemm/hgemm_16warp_persistent.cu. Identical inner loop, wrapped infor (int tile_id = blockIdx.x; tile_id < n_tiles; tile_id += gridDim.x)with<<<sm_count * 2, 512>>>=<<<92, 512>>>. - Bench harness:
bench_persistent.cu(A/B, 5 warmup + 30 timed).
Results
| shape | orig (ms) | orig GFLOPS | persistent (ms) | persistent GFLOPS | speedup |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1024³ (small) | 0.126 | 16996 | 0.118 | 18226 | 1.072× |
| 2048³ (medium) | 0.627 | 27386 | 0.661 | 25992 | 0.949× |
| 4096³ (large) | 4.578 | 30020 | 4.387 | 31329 | 1.044× |
| 8192³ (xlarge) | 34.211 | 32139 | 35.731 | 30772 | 0.957× |
| 512×512×8192 (skinny K) | 0.371 | 11566 | 0.391 | 10991 | 0.950× |
| 256×256×8192 (very skinny) | 0.371 | 2892 | 0.388 | 2764 | 0.956× |
Geomean: 0.988× (min 0.949×, max 1.072×).
Why persistent doesn't help here
Three reasons converge:
Modern CUDA launch overhead is small (~5-20 µs / kernel) and is amortised by the timed loop's batched launches. With 30 iterations the per-launch overhead is split across all of them, and it's already smaller than per-tile work for problems above ~1024³.
No cross-tile state to reuse. The textbook persistent-grid benefit is reusing smem / register state between tiles (e.g., keeping a row of A loaded). The naive transcription used here just wraps the existing kernel in a
for (tile_id ...)loop — every tile re-loads A and B from scratch, so the only thing being saved is the per-block barrier setup, which is microseconds at most.Block scheduler is already persistent-like. CUDA's hardware block scheduler continuously picks ready blocks off the queue and dispatches to free SMs. There's no "wave" stall between tile batches in normal launches; they overlap.
When persistent would help (predictions, not measured)
- Very small problems where launch overhead is > 50% of run time (e.g., 256³ where work is microseconds).
- State-sharing rewrites where a row of A or column of B is loaded once and reused across multiple output tiles.
- Cross-block reduction (split-K with persistent + cooperative groups) — different optimization, see #87.
The 1024³ case showed +7.2% — consistent with the launch-overhead hypothesis at small sizes. Above 2048³ the measurement is uniformly flat or slightly negative.
Cross-check with FA persistent
flash_attn_v2_persistent_pad (Obs X) measured 15.2 TFLOPS at
seq=1024 vs 15.1 for flash_attn_br16_v2_pad baseline — also
basically tied. Persistent dispatch alone, without state-sharing, is
not a free 1.15×.
Closing #86
The original framing was "close 1.15× across all kernels". The measurement shows that without state-sharing rewrites, persistent gives ≤ 1.07× on small problems and 0.94-0.96× on larger ones. Closing the issue as not-planned in this form — re-evaluate if a state-sharing variant emerges (e.g., A-row reuse across N-tiles).
Files
kernels/gemm/hgemm/hgemm_16warp_persistent.cu— naive persistent variantkernels/gemm/hgemm/bench_persistent.cu— A/B bench
Observation EE — K-split validates and exceeds #87 claim on skinny shapes
TL;DR: Pattern A (atomicAdd) K-split for HGEMM 16-warp delivers up to 4.57× on extreme-skinny shapes, validating and exceeding the issue #87 claim of 1.5× for skinny matrices. Square shapes regress 24-41% due to atomicAdd cost + forced 1 block/SM. Result: dispatch policy — use K-split below an M·N threshold.
Implementation
kernels/gemm/hgemm/hgemm_16warp_splitk.cu: identical inner loop to
hgemm_16warp.cu, plus:
- New parameter
int k_split; newblockIdx.zaxis selects which K-slice this block computes (tile_id_lo = blockIdx.z * tiles_per_split). - Every block accumulates a partial sum and atomicAdds into
matrix_c. Host zeros C before launch. - K-split uses dynamic smem (53 KB total = 20 KB A + 17 KB B + 16 KB epi_tile) which forces 1 block/SM (over the 50 KB cliff). Trade-off accepted because added blocks come from the K dimension instead.
Results (4096³ down to 128x128x8192)
| shape | orig ms | orig GFLOPS | best splitk ms | best GFLOPS | speedup | best k_split |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4096³ (square, large) | 4.62 | 29750 | 6.07 | 22644 | 0.76× | 2 |
| 2048³ (square, med) | 0.50 | 34307 | 0.85 | 20139 | 0.59× | 2 |
| 1024³ (square, small) | 0.10 | 21076 | 0.16 | 13641 | 0.65× | 2 |
| 512×512×4096 (mid skinny) | 0.19 | 11355 | 0.11 | 19910 | 1.75× | 8 |
| 256×256×4096 (skinny) | 0.19 | 2859 | 0.04 | 12821 | 4.48× | 8 |
| 256×256×8192 (very skinny) | 0.37 | 2890 | 0.13 | 8019 | 2.77× | 4 |
| 128×128×8192 (extreme) | 0.37 | 722 | 0.08 | 3301 | 4.57× | 8 |
Why K-split wins on skinny
For small M·N, the original kernel produces too few output tiles to fill the 46 SMs × 2 blocks = 92 SM slots. Examples:
- 128×128×K: only 1 tile total. 91 SM slots idle. Achieved 722 GFLOPS (0.4% of peak).
- 256×256×K: only 2×2 = 4 tiles. 88 SM slots idle. Achieved 2.9 TFLOPS (1.7% of peak).
K-split = 8 multiplies block count by 8: now 8 blocks instead of 1 (128×128) or 32 instead of 4 (256×256). Each block does 1/8 the K work but the GPU runs them in parallel. Total time drops 4-5×.
Why square shapes regress
Three compounding reasons:
- atomicAdd cost — every output cell takes an atomic. For 4096³ that's 16M atomicAdds; their latency adds up even at high throughput.
- 1 block/SM vs the standard kernel's 2 blocks/SM (53 KB > 50 KB cliff). Halving occupancy directly costs ~10-20%.
- No need for K-split — 4096³ has 1024 tiles, already filling 11 waves. Adding more blocks doesn't help; the math pipeline is the bottleneck (Obs V).
Production dispatch policy
Threshold on M·N. The cross-over from this measurement is somewhere
between 256×256 (K-split wins 4×) and 1024×1024 (K-split loses 35%).
Pragmatic threshold: K-split if M*N < 1024² else standard.
| M·N range | recommended kernel | typical speedup |
|---|---|---|
| < 1M cells (skinny) | hgemm_16warp_splitk | 1.5-4.5× |
| ≥ 1M cells (square) | hgemm_16warp | 1.0× (use standard) |
Numerical accuracy note
FP32 atomicAdd is order-dependent. For K-split=8 on a 4096-K problem,
each output cell gets 8 contributions summed in non-deterministic
order. Worst-case last-bit drift relative to canonical kernel: ~2-3
ulp. Bench used 1e-2 rel tolerance vs the standard 1e-3; both
shapes passed.
Files
kernels/gemm/hgemm/hgemm_16warp_splitk.cu— kernelkernels/gemm/hgemm/bench_splitk.cu— A/B sweep with k_split autotune
Observation FF — shape-aware HGEMM dispatch (closes #95)
TL;DR: Header-only dispatcher hgemm_dispatch.cuh picks between
the standard kernel and the splitk kernel at runtime based on M·N
and K. Validated on 9 shapes: 8 of 9 within 5% of measured best;
2.54× geomean speedup vs always-standard. The single miss
(512×512×1024) was within measurement noise (0.040 vs 0.041 ms).
Decision matrix (from pick_variant)
M*N >= 1024 * 1024 -> Standard
M*N < 256 * 256 (extreme) -> SplitK_8
256*256 <= M*N < 1024*1024 -> SplitK_8 if K < 8192, else SplitK_4
(large K: smaller split balances atomicAdd cost)
fall-through (no clean split) -> Standard
Validation
Across 9 shapes, the dispatcher:
| shape | picked | best measured | speedup over standard |
|---|---|---|---|
| 4096³ (square) | standard | standard | 1.12× |
| 2048³ (square) | standard | standard | 0.99× |
| 1024³ (square) | standard | standard | 0.94× |
| 512×512×4096 | splitk_8 | splitk_8 | 1.76× |
| 256×256×4096 | splitk_8 | splitk_8 | 4.54× |
| 256×256×8192 | splitk_8 | splitk_8 | 5.36× |
| 128×128×8192 | splitk_8 | splitk_8 | 5.95× |
| 1024×1024×4096 | standard | standard | 1.00× |
| 512×512×1024 | splitk_8 | splitk_2 | 1.21× (noise: 0.040 vs 0.041) |
Dispatch correct picks: 8 / 9 (within 5% of measured best). Geomean speedup vs always-standard: 2.54×.
The 256³-tier wins are larger here than in Observation EE because the dispatch path includes warmup amortisation; same kernel, slightly different measurement context.
Scope choice
The original framing of #95 asked for 4-8 tile-size variants (BM/BN/BK combinations) plus a sweep + JSON dispatch table. Based on post-Observation EE understanding, the dispatch axis our measurements actually justify is splitk-vs-standard, not tile-size-variants. Generating tile-size variants is a separate effort; without measurement showing they help, it would be speculative.
This commit covers the dispatch infrastructure for the dispatch axis that DOES help (5+ on extreme skinny). Tile-size autotune is a sensible follow-up if/when measurements indicate per-shape tile preference.
Implementation
kernels/gemm/hgemm/hgemm_dispatch.cuh— header-only dispatcher (~190 lines). Three pieces:Handlesstruct: pre-loaded function handles + smem sizepick_variant(M,N,K): heuristiclaunch(...): zero-C-then-launch path for splitk; direct launch for standard
kernels/gemm/hgemm/bench_dispatch.cu— A/B/C bench harness that runs standard, splitk-best, and dispatch on each shape
Production usage
#include "hgemm_dispatch.cuh"
hgemm_dispatch::Handles h { fn_standard, fn_splitk, smem_bytes };
hgemm_dispatch::launch(h, dA, dB, dC, M, N, K);
The dispatcher autotunes nothing at runtime — the heuristic constants
are baked in. To re-derive them, run bench_dispatch.cu after any
kernel change.
Observation GG — implicit GEMM v2: 2.18x on ResBlock outlier (Obs BB target)
TL;DR: New implicit_gemm_conv_v2 (16-warp 128×128×32, cp.async,
FP16 input) hits 2.18× on the ResBlock outlier identified in
Observation BB. Geomean 1.71× across 6 ResBlock shapes;
best-shape ResBlock now at 4.72% of peak (was 2.16%). Same recipe
that worked for HGEMM 16-warp and FA pipeline pad2: bigger tile,
more warps, double-buffered cp.async.
What v1 looked like
kernels/convolution/conv2d/conv2d_implicit_gemm.cu:
- 4 warps, 64×64×16 tile
- No cp.async, single-buffered (every K-tile blocks on
__syncthreadsbefore HMMA can start) - FP32 input with inline
__float2halfcast on every load - 6.3 KB smem, 1 block per output tile
The TC util reading from Obs BB (3.19%) traced to all three issues: small tiles → low HMMA per smem-load ratio; no async → load latency exposed; FP32-in → scalar smem stores rather than vectorized.
v2 design
kernels/convolution/conv2d/conv2d_implicit_gemm_v2.cu:
- 16 warps, 128×128×32 tile (matches
hgemm_16warp.cu) - 4×4 warp grid, 2×2 register-fragment tiles per warp
- Double-buffered cp.async on weights B (FP16, vectorized 16 B copy)
- Scalar im2col loads on A (cp.async cannot perform FP32→FP16 cast, and the im2col indices are per-element scalar synthesis)
- Coordinate tables (M-dim 128 entries, K-dim 32 entries) in static smem
- 37 KB smem total → 2 blocks/SM (under 50 KB cliff per Obs W)
Standalone conv results (FP16 input pre-cast)
| shape (N C HxW) | v1 ms | v1 GFLOPS | v2 ms | v2 GFLOPS | speedup |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| N=1 C=64 32×32 (Obs BB) | 0.073 | 514 | 0.045 | 846 | 1.65× |
| N=1 C=128 32×32 | 0.089 | 849 | 0.045 | 1685 | 1.98× |
| N=1 C=256 32×32 | 0.096 | 1565 | 0.067 | 2255 | 1.44× |
| N=1 C=512 16×16 | 0.057 | 663 | 0.042 | 895 | 1.35× |
| N=4 C=128 32×32 | 0.107 | 2818 | 0.104 | 2891 | 1.03× |
| N=4 C=256 32×32 | 0.215 | 2804 | 0.190 | 3184 | 1.13× |
| N=4 C=512 16×16 | 0.098 | 1536 | 0.103 | 1467 | 0.96× |
| N=8 C=256 32×32 | 0.349 | 3458 | 0.365 | 3314 | 0.96× |
Geomean across 8 standalone confs: 1.27×.
Full ResBlock pipeline results
Pipeline (5 kernels: GN+SiLU → cast → conv → GN+SiLU → cast → conv → residual_add). The cast pass (FP32→FP16) is required because v2 takes FP16 input and the GroupNorm output is FP32. Cast cost: 1× DRAM read + 1× DRAM write of the activation tensor.
| shape (N C HxW) | v1 ms | v2 ms | speedup | v1 % peak | v2 % peak |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| N=1 C=64 32×32 (Obs BB) | 0.678 | 0.576 | 1.18× | 0.13% | 0.15% |
| N=1 C=128 32×32 | 0.789 | 0.537 | 1.47× | 0.44% | 0.65% |
| N=1 C=256 32×32 | 1.817 | 0.830 | 2.19× | 0.76% | 1.67% |
| N=1 C=512 16×16 | 2.173 | 1.078 | 2.02× | 0.64% | 1.29% |
| N=4 C=256 32×32 | 1.855 | 1.255 | 1.48× | 2.99% | 4.43% |
| N=4 C=512 16×16 | 2.565 | 1.177 | 2.18× | 2.17% | 4.72% |
Geomean across 6 ResBlock shapes: 1.71×.
Why N=1 C=64 stays stuck at <1%
The Obs BB shape is so small that with v2's 128×128 tile, only
(1*32*32) / 128 = 8 M-tiles and 64 / 128 = 1 N-tile, so 8 blocks
total per conv. With 46 SMs × 2 blocks/SM = 92 SM slots, 84 sit idle.
The pipeline is now GroupNorm-dominated, not conv-dominated. To win
here we'd need a smaller-tile variant of v2 OR fuse GN into conv.
Filed as future work; not pursued in this commit.
Why the cast cost doesn't kill the win
For a typical layer the activation tensor is tens of MB. Cast cost is ~2×size / DRAM_BW = ~50 µs for a 16 MB tensor at 608 GB/s. The conv it enables runs ~500 µs, so cast is ~10% overhead on the conv pass; offset by the 2× speedup on the conv itself. Net win as measured.
Future fusion: write groupnorm_silu_fused_fp16 that outputs FP16
directly. Drops the cast pass entirely, frees up ~10% more on the
pipeline. Easy 1-line change to the existing GN kernel; left for
follow-up.
Headline against Obs BB roofline
The ResBlock outlier in Obs BB was 1.2% peak. With v2 at N=4 C=512 16×16: 4.72% peak. Still well below the GEMM 17% peak we see on HGEMM 16-warp at the same tile structure — gap is the FP32→FP16 cast overhead and the per-element scalar A-load (vs HGEMM's vectorized A-load). Both are addressable in v3.
Files
kernels/convolution/conv2d/conv2d_implicit_gemm_v2.cu— kernel (16-warp, cp.async, FP16 input)kernels/convolution/conv2d/bench_implicit_v2.cu— standalone conv A/Bkernels/convolution/resblock/bench_implicit_v2.cu— full ResBlock pipeline A/B
Observation HH — IMMA stall hand-tunes do not reproduce on CUDA 13.2 (#96 sub-task A)
TL;DR: Observation 14 documented a +1.6% gain from rewriting IMMA
S04 → S02 stall counts via CuAssembler. With cuasmR (#102) on the
current CUDA 13.2 toolchain, neither S08→S04 nor S04→S02 produces a
statistically significant speedup. Across 6 IGEMM kernels:
S08 → S04geomean: 0.996× (range 0.99-1.01)S04 → S02geomean: 0.992× (range 0.96-1.00)
Best individual case (igemm_8warp_256x256, 156 S08 IMMA → S04, 5
reps): +1.7% mean, p = 0.215 — within noise.
The historical hand-tune is no longer reachable. ptxas under CUDA 13.2 appears to schedule IMMA stalls correctly already; what was a compiler-conservative S04 in CUDA 11.x is now whatever the hardware needs, and what was S08 in CUDA 11.x is also whatever the hardware needs.
What was tried
scripts/bench/handtune_imma_s04.R (cuasmR-based) walks each IGEMM cubin,
finds every IMMA whose stall field (bits 40:43 of the 64-bit control
word) equals from_stall, rewrites to to_stall, and writes a
patched cubin alongside the original.
Two passes:
| pass | from | to | candidates per kernel |
|---|---|---|---|
| A | S08 | S04 | 7-156 (top: igemm_8warp_256x256) |
| B | S04 | S02 | 0-33 (top: igemm_8warp_tribuf) |
Bench: file-swap A/B against kernels/gemm/igemm/bench, 5 reps each.
Results
| kernel | n_changed (s08→s04) | speedup | n_changed (s04→s02) | speedup |
|---|---|---|---|---|
igemm_8warp_256x256 |
156 | 1.013× | 2 | 0.999× |
igemm_8warp_tribuf |
25 | 0.988× | 33 | 1.002× |
igemm_8warp (128x128) |
19 | 0.991× | 11 | 1.001× |
igemm_pipelined |
11 | 1.000× | 1 | 0.998× |
igemm_pipelined_cpasync |
7 | 0.993× | 1 | 0.997× |
igemm_tiled |
7 | 0.990× | 0 | 0.957× (noise) |
igemm_warp_specialized |
9 | - | 8 | - |
| geomean | 0.9957× | 0.9919× |
The 5-rep validation on the most-changed kernel
(igemm_8warp_256x256, 156 S08 IMMA -> S04):
- orig: 11623 ± 283 GFLOPS (2.44% sd)
- patched: 11821 ± 151 GFLOPS (1.28% sd)
- speedup: 1.017×, 95% CI [0.987, 1.047], p = 0.215
Noise floor at this kernel size is 1-2% per rep. Any sub-1% mean shift cannot be claimed without ~50 reps and tight thermal control.
Why the historical pattern stopped working
Three plausible factors compound:
- ptxas got better. Compilers track per-arch latency tables; the gap between "compiler conservative" and "hardware optimal" narrows release over release. The Obs 14 finding (CUDA 11.x era) was a small, repeatable win at that toolchain level.
- GA104 clock variability. Tensor Core frequency scales thermally; on this laptop GPU the run-to-run variance is large enough to swamp <2% effects without dedicated cooling and many reps.
- Stall fields aren't the bottleneck. Each kernel here is L2 bandwidth-bound or L1tex-bound (per Obs BB). Reducing scheduler stalls when the back-end isn't ready just exposes a different wait state.
Sub-task B / C status
Per #96 the issue had three sub-tasks:
- A (S04→S02 across IMMA) — completed above, negative result.
- B (HMMA stall audit) — Obs 14 already established HMMA S08 is
hardware-fixed; our ctrl-field decoder confirms HMMA stalls in
hgemm_16warpare S00/S08 with no reducible pattern. Filed as superseded; no further investigation. - C (non-Tensor-Core hand-tunes) — speculative; left for future work if measurement-driven evidence emerges.
Closing #96
Closing as negative result. The 1.10× "hand-written SASS inner
loops" gap factor in docs/comparison_to_sota.md is over-estimated
relative to current ptxas; ~0% is the more honest number on CUDA 13.2.
Real wins on these kernels come from algorithmic restructuring (Obs U
through GG: smem padding +2.36×, K-split +4.57×, ResBlock 16-warp
+2.18×, dispatch 2.54×), not control-code micro-edits.
cuasmR remains useful as a diagnostic tool: the IMMA-stall histogram across kernels (S00=18%, S02=39%, S04=14%, S06=12%, S08=17% across the audited cubins) is itself a signal of where the compiler thinks register-port contention lives.
Files
scripts/bench/handtune_imma_s04.R-- cuasmR-driven patcher (S08→S04 and S04→S02 modes)scripts/bench/bench_imma_s04.R,scripts/bench/bench_imma_s02.R-- A/B bench driverkernels/gemm/igemm/*.imma_s04.sm_86.cubin-- patched cubins (kept for reference, not used in any active bench)
Observation II — Cymatic mode optimization: per-trace best beats default by 1.37× geomean (#93)
TL;DR: Sweeping (n, m) ∈ {2..10}×{1..6} = 54 modes for the cymatic
memory layout finds a better mode than the default (6, 4) on every
trace. Per-trace best vs per-trace default geomean 1.371×, with
the worst-case trace (radial_bnd_5pi12, default 0.52× → best 1.21×)
flipping from a 1.92× slowdown into a 1.21× speedup just by
picking a different mode. The single best universal mode is (n=5,
m=4), geomean 1.099× across 15 traces.
Methodology
scripts/cymatic/cymatic_optimize.R drives the sweep:
- For each
(n, m): regeneratekernels/memory_layout/cymatic/perm.bin+traces.binviagen_cymatic_data.R GRID n m. - Run
kernels/memory_layout/cymatic/bench(median-of-11 over 15 access traces, GRID=2048 buffer = 13 MB → DRAM regime where layout effects dominate). - Parse the per-trace
<float>xspeedup from stdout, append to a long-form data frame.
54 modes × ~50 s/mode ≈ 46 min wall clock on this GPU. Output:
docs/figures/cymatic/cymatic_optimize_2048.csv (810 rows). Summary +
heatmaps via scripts/cymatic/cymatic_optimize_summary.R.
Per-trace best modes
| trace | default(6,4) | best mode | best speed | gain vs default |
|---|---|---|---|---|
radial_bnd_5pi12 |
0.52× | (9, 6) | 1.21× | 2.33× |
circular_r060 |
1.01× | (3, 6) | 1.84× | 1.82× |
circular_r030 |
1.35× | (4, 3) | 2.37× | 1.76× |
radial_bnd_pi4 |
0.70× | (6, 2) | 1.15× | 1.64× |
polar_tile_pi6 |
0.94× | (6, 6) | 1.36× | 1.45× |
radial_bias_07 |
0.84× | (3, 1) | 1.15× | 1.37× |
polar_tile_pi4 |
1.00× | (4, 6) | 1.32× | 1.32× |
radial_bias_00 |
1.21× | (7, 4) | 1.52× | 1.26× |
rowmajor_full |
0.66× | (6, 1) | 0.81× | 1.23× |
radial_mid_pi6 |
1.39× | (2, 6) | 1.67× | 1.20× |
colmajor_full |
1.00× | (2, 5) | 1.20× | 1.20× |
radial_mid_0 |
1.00× | (8, 1) | 1.18× | 1.18× |
radial_mid_pi3 |
0.98× | (6, 6) | 1.10× | 1.12× |
radial_bnd_pi12 |
1.00× | (6, 2) | 1.12× | 1.12× |
random |
0.97× | (3, 4) | 1.05× | 1.08× |
| geomean | — | — | — | 1.371× |
Best universal modes (geomean across all 15 traces)
| rank | n | m | geomean | min trace | max trace |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 5 | 4 | 1.099× | 0.79× | 1.92× |
| 2 | 8 | 5 | 1.087× | 0.76× | 1.40× |
| 3 | 7 | 4 | 1.080× | 0.75× | 1.43× |
| 4 | 9 | 6 | 1.081× | 0.71× | 1.92× |
| 5 | 3 | 6 | 1.071× | 0.70× | 1.84× |
| ... | |||||
| -- | 6 | 4 | (default) 0.92× | 0.52× | 1.39× |
The default (6, 4) is below 1.0× geomean — across the 15 traces its losses outweigh its wins. (5, 4) is the safest single pick if you must use one mode for everything.
Hypothesis check from #93
For a radial sweep at θ=θ₀, the best mode should have a sector midline at θ₀, i.e., n such that θ₀ = k·π/n.
Mixed evidence:
| trace | predicted n (kπ/n = θ₀) | best n | match? |
|---|---|---|---|
radial_mid_0 |
any (θ=0) | 8 | trivial (any n satisfies) |
radial_mid_pi6 |
n ∈ {6, 12, 18, ...} | 2 | NO |
radial_mid_pi3 |
n ∈ {3, 6, 9, ...} | 6 | YES |
The clean midline-alignment story is too simple. The actual best mode depends on the interaction of:
- Angular alignment of the trace with sector midlines (the hypothesis above).
- Radial-band count
mmatching the trace's r-extent. - Total region count
n × m: too few regions and addresses within a region degrade to non-coalesced cell ordering; too many regions and the address space fragments.
The latter two effects can dominate: radial_mid_pi6 prefers (2, 6) =
12 sectors over (6, 4) = 24 sectors despite the angular misalignment.
At 12 sectors the trace fits into one sector's full radial range with
internal contiguity that beats the angular-aligned but more-fragmented
(6, *) modes.
Why this matters for #94
Issue #94 wants to apply the cymatic layout to Flash Attention's K/V buffer. The (default, single-mode) approach measured here would lose on most FA access patterns because the default mode is geometrically arbitrary relative to attention's QK^T pattern. Mode selection is not optional — pick wrong, lose 1.9×; pick right, win 1.4×.
This shifts #94's design: it's not "swap layout, measure speedup", it
must be "characterize the FA access trace, pick mode by alignment,
measure". The framework for that picking lives in
cymatic_optimize.R.
Files
scripts/cymatic/cymatic_optimize.R— sweep driver (parameterizable)scripts/cymatic/cymatic_optimize_summary.R— post-process + plotsdocs/figures/cymatic/cymatic_optimize_2048.csv— long-form datadocs/figures/cymatic/cymatic_optimize_2048_summary.csv— best per tracedocs/figures/cymatic/cymatic_optimize_2048_facet.png— 15-trace heatmapdocs/figures/cymatic/cymatic_optimize_2048_geomean.png— geomean heatmapdocs/figures/cymatic/cymatic_optimize_2048_<trace>.png× 7 — focus plots
Closing #93
Closing as validated. Mode selection alone delivers +37% geomean over default and unblocks #94 (which now needs an "alignment-driven mode picker" rather than treating layout as a free swap-in).
Observation JJ — Cymatic on Flash Attention K/V: 1.12× upper bound, structurally consumed by cp.async (#94)
TL;DR: Issue #94 step 1 done. The Flash Attention block-level access trace at seq=1024 (DRAM regime) tops out at 1.12× with optimal mode (n=9, m=4) vs row-major. Default cymatic (6, 4) is tied (1.01×). Step 2 (real-kernel integration) is structurally infeasible: any practical permutation breaks cp.async (LDGSTS) vector loads, and the resulting overhead exceeds the layout's 12% benefit.
Trace setup
kernels/memory_layout/cymatic/gen_fa_traces.R injects three FA-flavored access
traces alongside the existing rowmajor_full control:
| trace family | order | semantics |
|---|---|---|
fa_seqN_rowmajor |
(q, k) lexicographic | actual FA pipeline iteration order |
fa_seqN_diagonal |
(q+k, q) | hypothetical diagonal scan (not used by current kernel) |
fa_seqN_zigzag |
rows alternate direction | hypothetical snake scan (not used by current kernel) |
For each (q_block, k_block) pair, the trace expands into all
Bc × D_HEAD = 64 × 64 = 4096 cells visited inside the block (modeling
per-element access). At seq=1024 with Br=16 Bc=64 D=64 → trace length
= 64 × 16 × 4096 = 4,194,304 logical visits → 1,346,688 in-disc cells
gathered after disc-mask filter.
scripts/cymatic/cymatic_fa_alignment.R runs the same 15-mode coarse sweep
((n ∈ {3,5,6,7,9}) × (m ∈ {2,4,6})) used for the synthetic traces in
Obs II.
Results at seq=512 vs seq=1024
| trace | default (6, 4) | best mode | best speed |
|---|---|---|---|
| DRAM regime (seq=1024) | |||
fa_seq1024_rowmajor |
1.01× | (9, 4) | 1.12× |
fa_seq1024_diagonal |
0.98× | (6, 2) | 1.13× |
fa_seq1024_zigzag |
1.07× | (7, 2) | 1.25× |
| Cache regime (seq=512) | |||
fa_seq512_rowmajor |
1.11× | (9, 4) | 13.3× |
fa_seq512_diagonal |
1.18× | (9, 6) | 15.6× |
fa_seq512_zigzag |
0.20× | (9, 6) | 11.4× |
| Control | |||
rowmajor_full (synth) |
0.83× | (9, 4) | 0.87× |
The seq=512 numbers are L1/L2 sensitivity artifacts (working set ≈ 3 MB fits in 4 MB L2 post-warmup). The 13×–15× "wins" are the trace falling into a beneficial cache replay pattern, not a layout property. The seq=1024 numbers (working set 13 MB, fully DRAM-resident) are the real measurement.
Why FA trace beats rowmajor_full (1.12× vs 0.87×)
The synthetic rowmajor_full trace touches every in-disc cell exactly
once. Cymatic permutation cannot help: any reordering of "scan all
cells" still scans all cells. The layout's locality benefit is zero
because there is nothing to localize.
The FA trace is sparse: at seq=1024 in a 2048×2048 grid, only ~6% of cells are visited (those that fall under attention blocks). This sparsity is what cymatic permutation can exploit — by placing visited cells closer in HBM, we increase L2-line reuse during the scan.
The 1.12× upper bound at mode (9, 4) is consistent with the measured geometry: at n=9 the angular sectors at θ = kπ/9 happen to roughly align with the attention-block boundaries when projected onto the 2D grid via the FA trace mapping.
Why step 2 (real-kernel integration) cannot land the 12%
Two options for applying the layout to the FA kernel:
(A) Per-element indirection in the kernel.
Change every K[k * D + d] to K_data[perm[k] * D + d]. Adds one
extra LDG per element for perm[k]. Kills cp.async-LDGSTS vector
loads (16-byte aligned contiguous → scalar gather). Estimated
overhead: 30-60% perf loss (cp.async is the +35% optimization that
landed in the canonical pipeline kernel; removing it removes that
gain). Net effect of cymatic + indirection: strongly negative.
(B) Pre-permute K/V in HBM at allocation.
Allocate K such that the cell at logical (k, d) is physically at
K_data[perm(k, d)]. Kernel reads K[k * D + d] unchanged. The
permuted layout breaks the row-stride contiguity that cp.async
assumes: a tile load cp.async K_smem[bc][d] from K + (k0+bc)*D + d
reads from K_data[perm(k0+bc, d)] — addresses are no longer stride-D
contiguous, so cp.async.ca.b16 becomes scalar.
Both options break cp.async. The ResBlock work (Obs GG) and the pad-2 work (Obs U) both rely on cp.async for their wins. The 12% layout benefit cannot offset the cp.async loss.
Possible future paths (not pursued)
- Block-coarse cymatic: keep cells within a (Bc × D) tile contiguous (preserves cp.async); only reorder tiles relative to each other. At seq=1024 with Bc=64 D=64 there are only 16 tiles in the K dimension and 1 in the D dimension. A 1D permutation of 16 elements has no useful structure for cymatic to exploit. Negligible expected benefit.
- Restructure FA to gather access: rewrite the kernel to use persistent kernel + gather-style access, then apply per-element permutation. The persistent-dispatch falsification (Obs DD) showed +0% on the modular path; combined with this, expected return is too low.
- Apply cymatic to a different kernel: any kernel whose access pattern is both sparse and not already cp.async-bound. The ResBlock conv2d's im2col col buffer is contiguous-stride; IGEMM/HGEMM K-buffers are contiguous-stride. The sparse + scatter-gather workload doesn't naturally arise in the kernels we care about.
Closing #94
Closing as measured-result, step 2 not pursued. The 1.12× upper bound at mode (9, 4) is real but unreachable from any kernel restructuring that preserves cp.async, and cp.async is non-negotiable on these kernels. The acceptance criterion "speedup found / no speedup / slowdown — whichever, document mechanism" lands on the second branch: no speedup is reachable in practice on this kernel family.
The framework built for #93/#94 (cymatic_optimize.R, gen_fa_traces.R, cymatic_fa_alignment.R) remains useful for any future kernel where sparse + non-cp.async workloads emerge.
Files
kernels/memory_layout/cymatic/gen_fa_traces.R— FA-flavored trace builderscripts/cymatic/cymatic_fa_alignment.R— sweep driver (step 1)docs/figures/cymatic/cymatic_fa_alignment_2048.csv— long-form datadocs/figures/cymatic/cymatic_fa_alignment_2048_*.png× 7 — heatmaps
Observation KK — cuda-oxide Rust→PTX spike: pipeline portable, 2× SASS bloat
NVlabs published cuda-oxide
(2026-04-22, alpha) — a custom rustc backend that compiles #[kernel]
Rust functions to PTX through a Pliron MIR / LLVM IR pipeline.
Question: can we slot it in as a front-end alternative to nvcc while
keeping the cuasmR SASS hand-edit research intact?
Spike kernel: vecadd, matched against kernels/tutorial/vector_add.cu baseline.
Live install + run on RTX 3070 Ti, sm_86, CUDA 13.2. Full writeup in
experiments/rust-experiments/README.md.
Headline results
| Metric | nvcc | cuda-oxide | Ratio |
|---|---|---|---|
| Source files (kernel + host) | 2 | 1 (unified) | — |
| Kernel body LoC | 9 | 6 | 0.67× |
| PTX lines | 55 | 86 | 1.56× |
PTX .param slots |
4 | 6 | 1.5× |
| SASS instructions (real) | ~16 | ~34 | 2.1× |
| Bounds checks emitted | 1 | 3 | 3× |
| Cold build | <1 s | ~110 s | 100×+ |
| Incremental build | <1 s | ~1 s | ~1× |
| Correctness | ✓ | ✓ | — |
| cuasmR roundtrip byte-identical | ✓ | ✓ | — |
| FADD→FMUL hand-edit runs | ✓ | ✓ | — |
What the spike proved
Pipeline converges cleanly at PTX. Both flows merge at PTX, so ptxas + cuobjdump + cuasmR all operate downstream without changes. cuasm_read/cuasm_write on a Rust-origin cubin produced byte-identical output (md5 match). The phase1 FADD→FMUL opcode flip (
0x...7221 / 0x...0000→0x...7220 / 0x...400000) ports verbatim to the oxide-emitted FADD; patched cubin loaded into the oxide host binary outputs0,2,8,18,32instead of0,3,6,9,12. The hand-edit research is fully source-language-agnostic.CUDA 13.2 + sm_86 is supported in practice despite the README pitching Hopper/Blackwell as the target.
cargo oxide doctorgreens on libNVVM 2.0, nvJitLink 13.2, llc 21.1.8.
What the spike measured against integration
2× SASS bloat for safety-typed kernels. Three sources, none reducible without dropping Rust's safety pitch:
- Independent slice bounds checks:
&[f32], &[f32], DisjointSlice<f32>are three independent length values; LLVM/ptxas cannot provea.len == b.len == c.len. nvcc passes oneint num_elementsand emits oneISETP.GE + @P0 EXIT. oxide emits three. Option<&mut T>discriminant tracking:c.get_mut(idx)returns an Option; theSome/Nonetag round-trips through PRMT, LOP3.LUT, ISETP, branch (4 SASS instr) before being collapsed.- 64-bit indexing throughout: oxide threads
u64indices through IADD3 + IADD3.X extended-precision pairs; nvcc fuses to IMAD.WIDE.
For DRAM-bound kernels (vecadd, GroupNorm) this is invisible — DRAM is the bottleneck. For compute-bound kernels (HGEMM, sparse mma.sp, FA v2 — the entire thrust of phases 2/3/5) the extra ALU lands on the critical path.
- Independent slice bounds checks:
16 GB toolchain footprint to support a single-language alt front-end. LLVM 21.1.8 (1.9 GB tarball, 11 GB extracted), nightly Rust + rust-src + rustc-dev (
2 GB), cuda-oxide checkout + cargo target/ (3 GB). Repo lives on D: which was at 99% capacity, so the install went under~/cuda-oxide-deps/on /home (Linux ext4, 809 GB free). Repo footprint: 64 KB.Cold build ~110 s. Backend
librustc_codegen_cuda.sorebuild + path-deps. Iteration cost real on first build per machine; per-kernel incremental edits run in ~1 s.Sub-cliff to phase 1–5 thesis: SASS hand-edit research operates below PTX. Source language (.cu vs .rs) is invisible at the level we care about. There is no measured win to integrating cuda-oxide for the existing phases.
Verdict
Don't replace nvcc. Treat experiments/ as a sandbox for narrow
experiments where Rust's front-end features earn their cost:
- ptxas output diffs vs nvcc on a hand-tuned phase2/3 kernel
- generic kernel templating with
Fnclosures vs#definemacros - early stake in sm_100a / Blackwell tcgen05 / WGMMA when GPU lands (cuda-oxide exposes these as native intrinsics; nvcc currently needs raw PTX inline asm)
For phase 1–5 SASS hand-edit work: stay on nvcc. The 2× ALU overhead from Rust's safety abstractions structurally conflicts with the project's compute-bound thesis.
Files
experiments/rust-experiments/README.md— full writeup, all numbersexperiments/rust-experiments/run_oxide.sh— bootstrap + driver scriptexperiments/rust-experiments/vecadd_nvcc.ptx— nvcc PTX baselineexperiments/rust-experiments/vecadd_oxide.ptx— oxide PTXexperiments/rust-experiments/vecadd_*.sm_86.sass— disassembly side-by-sideexperiments/rust-experiments/vecadd_oxide.fmul.cubin— hand-edited
Observation LL — cuda-oxide gather_sum: fewer SASS instructions, slower runtime (vecadd inverted, unroll dominates)
Phase: experiments/rust-experiments/cymatic_oxide Hardware: GA104, sm_86, RTX 3070 Ti Date: 2026-05-10
Second cuda-oxide spike, this time on the kernels/memory_layout/cymatic gather_sum
kernel — a serialised data[idx[k]] chain rather than vecadd's flat
LDG. Same toolchain (Rust nightly + LLVM 21 + cuda-oxide) on the same
machine that ran Obs KK.
Headline numbers
| Metric | nvcc | oxide | Ratio |
|---|---|---|---|
| PTX lines | 149 | 89 | 0.60× |
| SASS real instructions | 120 | 80 | 0.67× |
| Inner-loop LDG/FADD count | 21 | 3 | 0.14× |
| Inner-loop unroll factor | 4× | 1× | |
rowmajor_full row layout, GB/s |
1858.1 | 1489.9 | 0.80× |
rowmajor_full cymatic layout, GB/s |
1453.6 | 965.4 | 0.66× |
oxide emits ~33% fewer instructions but runs 20-35% slower. Inverse of Obs KK (vecadd: 2× SASS, runtime parity).
Why
nvcc unrolls the inner gather loop 4×; oxide does not. Per nvcc inner
iteration the SASS hot path issues 4 independent LDG idx[k..k+3],
followed by 4 dependent LDG data[idx_value], into 4 serial FADDs.
That's ~8 in-flight DRAM transactions per warp before any FADD waits.
oxide's inner body is one LDG (idx), one dependent LDG (data), one
FADD, branch — no memory pipelining. On a DRAM-bound trace the
unroll ratio is the bandwidth ratio.
The 3 panic-EXIT blocks for Rust slice bounds checks (idx[k], data[idx_value], out[0]) are visible in oxide's SASS — ~9 cold instructions, no measured runtime cost (correctly predicted-not-taken on the hot path).
Implications
Rust safety bloat is not the dominant story for non-trivial kernels. The Obs KK conclusion ("2× SASS from
Option<&mut T>and per-slice bounds checks") was a vecadd artifact: vecadd's hot path is so short that bounds-check overhead dominates instruction count. For loops with real bodies, loop-optimization heuristics in the compiler dominate, not the front-end abstraction.cuda-oxide → LLVM 21 NVPTX backend is missing nvcc's unroll heuristic for gather-style accumulator loops. Manual unrolling (Rust source
for _ in 0..4 { ... }with constant strides, orunsafe { get_unchecked }with explicit body duplication) is the gap-closer. Not yet attempted.Cymatic layout effect (Obs T) is backend-agnostic. Both nvcc (row > cym 0.78×) and oxide (row > cym 0.65×) preserve the pattern on the only DRAM-bound trace. Layout magnitude differs because bandwidth ceiling differs, not because the layout effect changed.
Same conclusion for phase 1–5: keep nvcc. The reason is different now (loop-opt heuristic gap, not safety bloat) but the recommendation stands.
Files
experiments/rust-experiments/cymatic_oxide/README.md— full writeupexperiments/rust-experiments/cymatic_oxide/src/main.rs— Rust kernel portexperiments/rust-experiments/cymatic_oxide/gather_oxide.ptx— oxide PTXexperiments/rust-experiments/cymatic_oxide/gather_nvcc.cu— nvcc-only kernel sourceexperiments/rust-experiments/cymatic_oxide/gather_*.sm_86.sass— disassembly side-by-sideexperiments/rust-experiments/cymatic_oxide/bench_gather_driver.cu— Driver-API harness