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t1_jjqvb3l
I use a thunderbolt 3 egpu with a 3090 in order to run locally using my laptop. It’s good enough for my needs. The one I’ve been using lately has been oasst 30b sft-6 in 4bit, and I get around 5 to 7 tokens per second.
1
0
2023-05-11T14:46:21
burkmcbork2
false
null
0
jjqvb3l
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13dub31/would_an_egpu_work_as_good_on_linux_than_an/jjqvb3l/
false
1
t1_jjqv423
I second this opinion, GPT4ALL-snoozy 13B in particular. Stable Vicuna can write code that compiles, but those two write better code.
4
0
2023-05-11T14:45:04
AfterAte
false
null
0
jjqv423
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ehnnt/ai_showdown_wizard_vicuna_vs_stable_vicuna_gpt4/jjqv423/
false
4
t1_jjqurca
Have a 5950x - actually you could do fine on a 2600! 3090 is dollar for dollar the best to work with.
2
0
2023-05-11T14:42:40
PookaMacPhellimen
false
null
0
jjqurca
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13elyk9/vram_limitations/jjqurca/
false
2
t1_jjqumfe
Technically yes but the models you can finetune today ain’t nearly as great at GPT no matter what metrics people show you. This will remain true. If you want your resurrected friend to just talk similar it will work, but he might not really help you out as much. He might make up of things too between you that did...
1
0
2023-05-11T14:41:46
Faintly_glowing_fish
false
null
0
jjqumfe
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ecakp/long_term_project_resurrecting_a_passed_friend/jjqumfe/
false
1
t1_jjqtpls
Maybe just get a good Asus gaming laptop and add in an egpu later
1
0
2023-05-11T14:35:37
megadonkeyx
false
null
0
jjqtpls
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ek9sp/can_anyone_recommend_me_some_specs_that_will_give/jjqtpls/
false
1
t1_jjqtpf0
>Unless you want to get into workstation cards(A6000), your options are limited. I run with two 3090 24GB cards and you can run larger models across two of those, but it's not ideal. Because most people aren't rocking dual video cards, a lot of the code out there doesn't support it very well. Are you doing multi gpu i...
2
0
2023-05-11T14:35:35
2muchnet42day
false
null
0
jjqtpf0
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13elyk9/vram_limitations/jjqtpf0/
false
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t1_jjqtm5n
>Realistically, 24GB is going to be the high end for most users. So most of the interesting activity is going to be supporting that and lower. This is a very strong argument against paying for overpriced cards. Only time will tell, though.
1
0
2023-05-11T14:34:56
2muchnet42day
false
null
0
jjqtm5n
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13elyk9/vram_limitations/jjqtm5n/
false
1
t1_jjqtfzv
Damn, that sounds beautiful
2
0
2023-05-11T14:33:46
koehr
false
null
0
jjqtfzv
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e4nqo/google_is_comparing_their_llm_to_llms_from_2022/jjqtfzv/
false
2
t1_jjqtal2
AMD is working on this. They call it Ryzen AI. It has the Xilinx AI engine (XDNA). The latest laptop chips are already shipping with this tech.
4
0
2023-05-11T14:32:45
noiserr
false
null
0
jjqtal2
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e4nqo/google_is_comparing_their_llm_to_llms_from_2022/jjqtal2/
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t1_jjqszw0
Setup 50 VMs and write a script to use another AI to make the judgement call, and it's $120/hr. Then pay that $2.40/hr to the Indian/Nigerian/etc that was doing it before to just monitor a dashboard that tracks the VMs and makes sure they're still functioning. Then we start scaling.
3
0
2023-05-11T14:30:41
dezmd
false
null
0
jjqszw0
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e4nqo/google_is_comparing_their_llm_to_llms_from_2022/jjqszw0/
false
3
t1_jjqsyuz
Happen to have written up how / what you tried? Negative results are pretty valuable and results where fine tuning length > base model context length are interesting !
3
0
2023-05-11T14:30:30
Fun_Tangerine_1086
false
null
0
jjqsyuz
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ed7re/4096_context_length_and_beyond/jjqsyuz/
false
3
t1_jjqsde6
Wow! So about 1/3 of the federal minimum wage! These damn millennials will complain just about everything. Back in the day, we were paid 10 cents an hour. ​ /s
4
0
2023-05-11T14:26:22
2muchnet42day
false
null
0
jjqsde6
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e4nqo/google_is_comparing_their_llm_to_llms_from_2022/jjqsde6/
false
4
t1_jjqsbm1
Taking page from Apple's marketing statistics playbook, lol. Shame on all of them.
2
0
2023-05-11T14:26:02
dezmd
false
null
0
jjqsbm1
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e4nqo/google_is_comparing_their_llm_to_llms_from_2022/jjqsbm1/
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t1_jjqrkr6
Mmmmmmm 1. eGPU is more trouble, and for a 32GB, I am looking at about $2000US, assuming my machine can take it. 2. If I had a spare gpu, I might look at that. Would 3 reduce VRAM by much?
1
0
2023-05-11T14:20:57
Rear-gunner
false
null
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jjqrkr6
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13elyk9/vram_limitations/jjqrkr6/
false
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t1_jjqrjwa
Which models couldn't you run on the 24gb vram?
2
0
2023-05-11T14:20:47
SuperbPay2650
true
null
0
jjqrjwa
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13elyk9/vram_limitations/jjqrjwa/
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t1_jjqrf3v
Unless you want to get into workstation cards(A6000), your options are limited. I run with two 3090 24GB cards and you can run larger models across two of those, but it's not ideal. Because most people aren't rocking dual video cards, a lot of the code out there doesn't support it very well. In your position, I'd trad...
6
0
2023-05-11T14:19:52
synn89
false
null
0
jjqrf3v
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13elyk9/vram_limitations/jjqrf3v/
false
6
t1_jjqpd35
i9, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090
2
0
2023-05-11T14:05:17
Pan000
false
null
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jjqpd35
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ek9sp/can_anyone_recommend_me_some_specs_that_will_give/jjqpd35/
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t1_jjqo5yn
One thing I'd caution is that given the age range of reddit, it's highly probable that the people arguing against it are getting their ideas of mourning from fiction rather than actual life experience.
1
0
2023-05-11T13:56:35
toothpastespiders
false
null
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jjqo5yn
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ecakp/long_term_project_resurrecting_a_passed_friend/jjqo5yn/
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t1_jjqnxyy
I don't know, to me that just sounds like you're advocating emotional repression. Someone doesn't stop being an important part of your past just because they die. Any more than if they'd just moved away somewhere you can't talk to them anymore. My dad died when I was just a kid and growing up I gained a lot of strength...
6
0
2023-05-11T13:55:00
toothpastespiders
false
null
0
jjqnxyy
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ecakp/long_term_project_resurrecting_a_passed_friend/jjqnxyy/
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t1_jjqn5gl
I agree with you and your husband's view of it. Science fiction tends to jump into this subject a lot and treat it as an inevitable horror story. But I think that the concern misses out on a real component of mourning. When we mourn it's both for the loss of a person in our life, and 'for' the loss of their life. Peo...
3
0
2023-05-11T13:49:20
toothpastespiders
false
null
0
jjqn5gl
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ecakp/long_term_project_resurrecting_a_passed_friend/jjqn5gl/
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t1_jjqmv2a
Yeah it still rambles. Also if i write a couple sentences of a story it rambles. The rambles are somewhat relevant, but not very coherent. The chat model is better but not that great
1
0
2023-05-11T13:47:13
shaykruler
false
null
0
jjqmv2a
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13dwl8o/mpt7b_storyteller_returns_correct_answers/jjqmv2a/
false
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t1_jjqmj80
I am looking at a lot but I am really hooked on this stuff. The trouble now is that most of the interesting activity is rapidly going into the high VRAM range and I am wondering if 24GB is enough. Unfortunately, it does not look like much is available over 24GB although there are a few upcoming cards that are rumoured ...
1
0
2023-05-11T13:44:48
Rear-gunner
false
2023-05-11T13:50:19
0
jjqmj80
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13elyk9/vram_limitations/jjqmj80/
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t1_jjqlu39
Well, I was looking at an upgrade that would cost you $300(3080 to 3090) not several thousand dollars. Realistically, 24GB is going to be the high end for most users. So most of the interesting activity is going to be supporting that and lower.
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0
2023-05-11T13:39:41
synn89
false
null
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jjqlu39
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13elyk9/vram_limitations/jjqlu39/
false
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t1_jjql7vd
I've had success with biasing the logits according to a regex pattern, doing so can force the LLM to respond according to a particular pattern. You have to fiddle with top_k and temperature after that to get a decent response but I've found it works pretty well. My implementation is here: https://github.com/ggerganov/...
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0
2023-05-11T13:35:07
PythonFuMaster
false
null
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jjql7vd
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ehnnt/ai_showdown_wizard_vicuna_vs_stable_vicuna_gpt4/jjql7vd/
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t1_jjql501
24GB when the latest models coming out are alpaca-lora-65B-GPTQ-4bit How high please do you get? No other solution?
2
0
2023-05-11T13:34:31
Rear-gunner
false
null
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jjql501
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13elyk9/vram_limitations/jjql501/
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t1_jjqkp2l
I have a dell precision with a A5000; 8 physical CPU cores and 64G mem. Not so great for bigger models but works very well for 13B quantized. However you are just a little tight for 30B model and almost able to run it, but can’t. There’s no better ones that I can find for now.
2
0
2023-05-11T13:31:04
Faintly_glowing_fish
false
null
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jjqkp2l
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ek9sp/can_anyone_recommend_me_some_specs_that_will_give/jjqkp2l/
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t1_jjqkkbb
Sure, if *asked* for ethical decisions, not everything should be awesome. But if I ask for optimization of my "poking cute little puppies in the eye machine" I want suggestions on added horsepower, pokier pokers, increased capacity, etc., not refusal on the basis that my goal is not deemed good.
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0
2023-05-11T13:30:03
chuckymcgee
false
null
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jjqkkbb
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1384u1g/wizardlm7buncensored/jjqkkbb/
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t1_jjqk5st
\> let's also ban knives \*England has entered the chat\*
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0
2023-05-11T13:26:55
chuckymcgee
false
null
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jjqk5st
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1384u1g/wizardlm7buncensored/jjqk5st/
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t1_jjqk1ls
> It's correct, but it reads like a non-native speaker :). Maybe it's better in Chinese? As far as I know, it was primarily trained on The Pile which is mainly English content. I know there are ones also trained (fine-tuned would probably be more accurate) on a bunch of novels in Mandarin. I'm actually learning the l...
1
0
2023-05-11T13:26:01
KerfuffleV2
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jjqk1ls
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e0fkf/chatbot_arena_released_new_leader_board_with_gpt4/jjqk1ls/
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t1_jjqjx0s
You probably want to build a server if you want to future proof yourself.
1
0
2023-05-11T13:25:03
Ok-Debt7712
false
null
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jjqjx0s
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ek9sp/can_anyone_recommend_me_some_specs_that_will_give/jjqjx0s/
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t1_jjqjgex
I’m sorry for your husband but this is fucked. This isn’t healthy. We’re reaching the point we have to decide what this technology should and shouldn’t be used to, and this is something I hope society goes against.
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2023-05-11T13:21:31
reditum
false
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jjqjgex
false
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t1_jjqihls
I don't know about 400. It might work like some other generations without support with environment variables and compile pytorch. There are guides meant for stable diffusion online which cover
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2023-05-11T13:14:03
amdgptq
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jjqihls
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12hi6tc/complete_guide_for_koboldai_and_oobabooga_4_bit/jjqihls/
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t1_jjqhpfn
Yeah I use it and it works just fine for what I do, and originally I used stable diffusion with it which worked just fine. My guess is that in 2017 there was much less desire to use fp16 on a graphics card, between the general use of higher precision shader cores as compute acceleration, and the fact that card was most...
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2023-05-11T13:07:49
synth_mania
false
null
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jjqhpfn
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13caqcd/i_put_together_plans_for_an_absolute_budget_pc/jjqhpfn/
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t1_jjqhn4b
Indeed. Even in regular answers it's slightly dumb in its wording though. It's correct, but it reads like a non-native speaker :). Maybe it's better in Chinese?
1
0
2023-05-11T13:07:19
teachersecret
false
null
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jjqhn4b
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e0fkf/chatbot_arena_released_new_leader_board_with_gpt4/jjqhn4b/
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t1_jjqhcem
> Some models are exceptional at basic question answer or instruction following. Some are exceptional at writing. This one isn't great at prose. You might have forgotten to mention that you were specifically talking about having it generate prose. Raven is an instruct tuned model. I believe there are some specific fi...
1
0
2023-05-11T13:04:55
KerfuffleV2
false
null
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jjqhcem
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e0fkf/chatbot_arena_released_new_leader_board_with_gpt4/jjqhcem/
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t1_jjqh2ab
> But - back to my selfish question - What's the current SOTA for > 2K, instruction-following, uncensored models? RWKV 14B, I think. RWKV scores pretty high on the [arena leaderboard](https://chat.lmsys.org/?arena), and the author has indicated that it can be optimized to perform [even better](https://twitter.com/Bli...
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0
2023-05-11T13:02:36
pedantic_pineapple
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2023-05-11T13:15:03
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jjqh2ab
false
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t1_jjqgva5
Does increased context length only slow down generation, or does it also increase VRAM requirements for generation? If it does increase VRAM requirements, is there any rule of thumb for it? Like how much more VRAM would storywriter-65k require when using the full context vs a more typical 2k context 7B model, or is i...
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2023-05-11T13:01:04
SoylentMithril
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jjqgva5
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ed7re/4096_context_length_and_beyond/jjqgva5/
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t1_jjqgd3y
Yeah, I had a 3080 10GB ram card and I could barely squeeze 13B models into it. It's just not a good GPU for running models above 7B on. I've since switched to a used 3090 24GB and it's a much better experience.
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0
2023-05-11T12:57:03
synn89
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null
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jjqgd3y
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13elyk9/vram_limitations/jjqgd3y/
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t1_jjqfsa0
Laptop is pretty much a no go for this. This is the "medium budget" desktop build I went with: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wNxzJM I picked up two 3090 cards from Ebay for $1500 combined, so the total build came out to $3800. I've been pretty happy with it, though two video cards is iffy for larger models because not...
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2023-05-11T12:52:27
synn89
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t1_jjqf20h
No, it's just saying that the model is being tested for something that doesn't necessarily reflect how it feels when it writes fiction. Some models are exceptional at basic question answer or instruction following. Some are exceptional at writing. This one isn't great at prose.
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0
2023-05-11T12:46:29
teachersecret
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jjqf20h
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e0fkf/chatbot_arena_released_new_leader_board_with_gpt4/jjqf20h/
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t1_jjqesbu
Sadly it's one thing to say you've achieved a certain context length because that's what you trained the model on, another to point to benchmarks that show the model performing better with (i.e. actually using) the longer context, and yet another thing entirely for any of that to mean anything. RWKV is a good example....
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2023-05-11T12:44:15
ReturningTarzan
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jjqesbu
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ed7re/4096_context_length_and_beyond/jjqesbu/
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t1_jjqen5f
I'm not an expert, but I've read that people are using : 1. Egpu 2. 2 or more gpu as a server 3. Using the cpu I'm into buying a laptop for it, but there is no laptop with more than 16gb vram :-(
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0
2023-05-11T12:43:03
SuperbPay2650
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jjqen5f
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t1_jjqdl98
​ https://preview.redd.it/e2bf1c1pm8za1.png?width=1623&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=0c343c615b86caa343f30ef700c58f1e6d1d9aaf Any ideas on why I'm getting "#"s as my output? If I run without --gpu\_layers llama.cpp outputs text like it should. make -j LLAMA_CUBLAS=1 && ./main -b 512 -t 10 -n 28 -p "Wha...
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2023-05-11T12:34:13
AltNomad
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null
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jjqdl98
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13cpwpi/proof_of_concept_gpuaccelerated_token_generation/jjqdl98/
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t1_jjqdenm
Let us know the results . I been told that the must important its the gpu vram
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0
2023-05-11T12:32:35
SuperbPay2650
true
null
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jjqdenm
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13dub31/would_an_egpu_work_as_good_on_linux_than_an/jjqdenm/
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t1_jjqd8w8
Things are brewing that might change what you can get away with (cpu+gpu combined on llamacpp) but like others have said a laptop is not going to be a good option I don't think. Think of the heat that thing's going to be putting out.
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0
2023-05-11T12:31:13
ambient_temp_xeno
false
null
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jjqd8w8
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ek9sp/can_anyone_recommend_me_some_specs_that_will_give/jjqd8w8/
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t1_jjqd0d0
Is it better / faster than running 2 gpu as a server (in home) ?
1
0
2023-05-11T12:29:08
SuperbPay2650
true
null
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jjqd0d0
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13dub31/would_an_egpu_work_as_good_on_linux_than_an/jjqd0d0/
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t1_jjqcy6a
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0
2023-05-11T12:28:36
[deleted]
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jjqcy6a
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1384u1g/wizardlm7buncensored/jjqcy6a/
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t1_jjqcx4k
Thanks for the formula :)
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0
2023-05-11T12:28:21
polawiaczperel
false
null
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jjqcx4k
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ek9sp/can_anyone_recommend_me_some_specs_that_will_give/jjqcx4k/
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t1_jjqcrml
I've been having the same problem, thanks for posting the model that worked for you, that is working very well for me too. Anyone know why this works versus other models i've tried like the prefered models listed in the FAQ?
1
0
2023-05-11T12:27:02
mrfoozle
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null
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jjqcrml
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e1is6/need_help_getting_started_llama_outputting_random/jjqcrml/
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t1_jjqcfkd
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0
2023-05-11T12:24:08
[deleted]
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2023-05-12T20:32:29
0
jjqcfkd
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t1_jjqceqx
I think flexibility will be key. We don't fully know what's really going to take off in the AI scene and what the needs will be.
1
0
2023-05-11T12:23:56
synn89
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null
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jjqceqx
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ed7re/4096_context_length_and_beyond/jjqceqx/
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1
t1_jjqceau
10/10 objective knowledge score ? Can anyone explain ?
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0
2023-05-11T12:23:50
FS72
false
null
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jjqceau
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ehnnt/ai_showdown_wizard_vicuna_vs_stable_vicuna_gpt4/jjqceau/
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t1_jjqbk8z
The version of GPT4 you get access to only has an 8k context window. ~~The 32k version is still 100% internal-only for testing purposes.~~ My bad, looks like they did finally [open up a waitlist for 32k](https://analyticsindiamag.com/gpt-4-api-is-here/) a couple days ago.
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0
2023-05-11T12:16:16
candre23
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null
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jjqbk8z
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ed7re/4096_context_length_and_beyond/jjqbk8z/
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t1_jjqb7mo
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2023-05-11T12:13:07
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2023-05-12T20:32:43
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jjqb7mo
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t1_jjqav73
[Thanks!](https://media.tenor.com/7lUkwJgtNPoAAAAd/good-burger.gif)
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2023-05-11T12:09:57
candre23
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jjqav73
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ed7re/4096_context_length_and_beyond/jjqav73/
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t1_jjqahp0
"expert performance" wtf is that even suppose to mean lmao
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2023-05-11T12:06:32
sebo3d
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null
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jjqahp0
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e4nqo/google_is_comparing_their_llm_to_llms_from_2022/jjqahp0/
false
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t1_jjqafxp
The paper for ALiBi suggests that the model generalizes quite well to about 2-3x the trained context length without even finetuning. So 4k trained model should handle about 10k before it gets noticeably confused. They use a different positional embedding strategy from e.g. RoPE that is used in LLaMA. It is much simple...
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2023-05-11T12:06:04
audioen
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2023-05-11T12:13:42
0
jjqafxp
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ed7re/4096_context_length_and_beyond/jjqafxp/
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t1_jjqaffr
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0
2023-05-11T12:05:57
[deleted]
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2023-05-11T12:14:40
0
jjqaffr
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ed7re/4096_context_length_and_beyond/jjqaffr/
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t1_jjq9nxc
What is the use case for a laptop? Why wouldn’t you have a server/workstation you connect to with your laptop?
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0
2023-05-11T11:58:59
sshan
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jjq9nxc
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ek9sp/can_anyone_recommend_me_some_specs_that_will_give/jjq9nxc/
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t1_jjq8d5c
Laptop is not a good option for this. You need a desktop. Under 5k, used 48gb GPU and some AMD board. 128gb of ram. Probably 2k for the GPU and like 1000 for the compy.
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2023-05-11T11:46:48
a_beautiful_rhind
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jjq8d5c
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ek9sp/can_anyone_recommend_me_some_specs_that_will_give/jjq8d5c/
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t1_jjq7q82
Im really curious about this could you give an ELI5 on basically everything in this message? Thanks
3
0
2023-05-11T11:40:36
ML_SWE
false
null
0
jjq7q82
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13dem7j/wizardlm13buncensored/jjq7q82/
false
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t1_jjq7mg5
In general, transformers don't have a max context length determined by their architecture. You can run any transformer on a sequence of any length, in theory, and with a good implementation (Flash Attention, sane cache system etc.) the performance doesn't have to be terrible. It's much closer to linear than quadratic c...
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0
2023-05-11T11:39:35
ReturningTarzan
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null
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jjq7mg5
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ed7re/4096_context_length_and_beyond/jjq7mg5/
false
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t1_jjq6r0n
Yes-and-no. Political correctness has long been a "thing" - it's just extra-devolved now.
2
0
2023-05-11T11:30:55
AnEnd2Hypocrisy
false
null
0
jjq6r0n
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/138nddb/mpt7b_a_opensource_model_trained_on_1_trillion/jjq6r0n/
false
2
t1_jjq6kpd
For a laptop, you are going to be capped at 30B /4bit models. Unless Dell ever comes out with their RTX A6000 offering, but that's likely to be much more expensive than 5k, seeing how the GPU alone is 6k.
1
0
2023-05-11T11:29:10
That_Faithlessness22
false
null
0
jjq6kpd
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ek9sp/can_anyone_recommend_me_some_specs_that_will_give/jjq6kpd/
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1
t1_jjq68lm
A 60B model requires 60B * 16bit = 960Gbit VRAM. 960Gbit/8 = 120GB VRAM... Then you shrink it down by quantizing. Say down to 4 bits. 60B * 4bit / 8 = 30GB VRAM. 22GB for 3bit. So basically get something with a 4090 if you want it to give "high preformance for the next few years"...
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0
2023-05-11T11:25:42
MarlinMr
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null
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jjq68lm
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ek9sp/can_anyone_recommend_me_some_specs_that_will_give/jjq68lm/
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t1_jjq5uxr
I used a python script to break the messages up. The resulting file is a json file with a list of objects with a single data field which contains the blocks of messages. Then with a custom format that just maps the single field, you can train it with text-generation-webui.
5
0
2023-05-11T11:21:52
scratchr
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null
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jjq5uxr
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ecakp/long_term_project_resurrecting_a_passed_friend/jjq5uxr/
false
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t1_jjq5rbr
You’re welcome. Make sure it is something you go through together, not alone. The inner voice really is cruel and deafening without the words of others, especially in distress (which I speak from experience). We (or at least I) would be happy to offer some thoughts anytime, however much you take away from them.
0
0
2023-05-11T11:20:51
UnorderedPizza
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null
0
jjq5rbr
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ecakp/long_term_project_resurrecting_a_passed_friend/jjq5rbr/
false
0
t1_jjq5hhv
> GPT-3 has a context length of 8K tokens and GPT-4 supposedly goes up to 32K There is a *version* of GPT4 that goes up to 32k, but it is still in internal development and not publicly available. The regular GPT4 that you get through paying for plus is just 8k. You'd probably have to throw several million at openAI ...
5
0
2023-05-11T11:17:58
candre23
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null
0
jjq5hhv
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ed7re/4096_context_length_and_beyond/jjq5hhv/
false
5
t1_jjq5hfx
Considering pygmalion: I don't think it is tuned to follow instructions. You need to give it a character description followed by dialogue. If you give it anything else, it's not the model's fault.
3
0
2023-05-11T11:17:57
Magnus_Fossa
false
null
0
jjq5hfx
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ddjip/what_are_my_best_options_for_cpu_uncensored/jjq5hfx/
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3
t1_jjq4zvk
I'm waiting for AI co-processors equipped with specialized storage for inference. That would be something Google could give to the world. But no, instead they give us grey and orange bar charts.
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0
2023-05-11T11:12:44
koehr
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2023-05-11T19:03:49
0
jjq4zvk
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e4nqo/google_is_comparing_their_llm_to_llms_from_2022/jjq4zvk/
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t1_jjq4sb8
Try mpt-7b-chat on gpt4all it's quiet good
5
0
2023-05-11T11:10:30
Puzzleheaded_Acadia1
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null
0
jjq4sb8
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ehnnt/ai_showdown_wizard_vicuna_vs_stable_vicuna_gpt4/jjq4sb8/
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t1_jjq3x91
Thank you for this. I've just made an edit saying that you've all given me some interesting points of view and while I've not made a proper decision yet, it deserves more than "Hey, I think this is possible, would you be interested?" followed by a "Yes, of course." It's think we should discuss it with his psych before ...
3
0
2023-05-11T11:01:05
rmt77
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null
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jjq3x91
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ecakp/long_term_project_resurrecting_a_passed_friend/jjq3x91/
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t1_jjq2i4v
The fact that you use Vulkan is IMHO the biggest new, disregarding the mobile thing ! Finally we might use integrated GPU for inference on PCs without a beefy NVIDIA GPU. Instead of buying a 20GB+ GPU, one can install 32GB of RAM and run LLM on the system way faster. Even better, mini PCs with AMD aGPU...
5
0
2023-05-11T10:44:40
MiHumainMiRobot
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null
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jjq2i4v
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ctg4c/project_mlc_llm_for_android/jjq2i4v/
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t1_jjq1pkq
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2023-05-11T10:35:10
[deleted]
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jjq1pkq
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ejbwx/engineering_training_for_better_quality/jjq1pkq/
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t1_jjq1goc
Nothing more training wouldn't fix.
2
0
2023-05-11T10:32:07
Dont_Bother96
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jjq1goc
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ehnnt/ai_showdown_wizard_vicuna_vs_stable_vicuna_gpt4/jjq1goc/
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t1_jjpzpbg
Is it better / faster than running 2 gpu as a server ?
2
0
2023-05-11T10:09:28
SuperbPay2650
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jjpzpbg
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13dub31/would_an_egpu_work_as_good_on_linux_than_an/jjpzpbg/
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t1_jjpzmlw
Aren't there movies about exactly this topic? I try not to tell people what to do, but i also think it's a trap. I will keep the person from healing and keep them from moving on with their own life. I wouldn't do it for a prolonged time.
1
0
2023-05-11T10:08:30
Magnus_Fossa
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null
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jjpzmlw
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ecakp/long_term_project_resurrecting_a_passed_friend/jjpzmlw/
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1
t1_jjpzjhu
Google pump propaganda and skew search results. What do you expect?
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0
2023-05-11T10:07:22
a_beautiful_rhind
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null
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jjpzjhu
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e4nqo/google_is_comparing_their_llm_to_llms_from_2022/jjpzjhu/
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t1_jjpzfy2
This is a long comment, but please do read on to the end: Whether or not it begins as something so uninvolved, these topics *need* to be approached with careful consideration. Everybody advising this not develop further are trying to imply that it *will* become unhealthy: Grief is a continuing, and . . . *confusing* p...
1
0
2023-05-11T10:06:04
UnorderedPizza
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2023-05-11T10:15:01
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jjpzfy2
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ecakp/long_term_project_resurrecting_a_passed_friend/jjpzfy2/
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t1_jjpywau
After some testing the 30B Llama based open source models outperform Palm 2 in certain areas. Hell even the 13B accomplished the basic coding task that Palm failed. Lol and Palm 2 is likely 500B +
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0
2023-05-11T09:58:35
mrbluesneeze
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2023-05-11T10:10:53
0
jjpywau
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e4nqo/google_is_comparing_their_llm_to_llms_from_2022/jjpywau/
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t1_jjpydem
Thanks for sharing this! Is there a way to utilize both CPU and GPU when running a model? NVM- I found the answer. It is possible to offload some GPU work to the CPU for GPTQ models using the --pre-layer flag!
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2023-05-11T09:51:25
86ysb52o
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2023-05-12T13:21:15
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jjpydem
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t1_jjpy3wb
Wizard Vicuna has been absolutely excellent for me, however completely falls apart at outputting JSON! It’s very important feature for building agents and actions. So frustrating!
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2023-05-11T09:47:46
Horror_Ad2755
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jjpy3wb
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ehnnt/ai_showdown_wizard_vicuna_vs_stable_vicuna_gpt4/jjpy3wb/
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t1_jjpxt82
from the numbers it looks like stable vicuna should code about 40% better than wizard vicuna. Do you think this is a reasonable representation of the difference in results that you saw?
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2023-05-11T09:43:35
Josiah_Walker
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jjpxt82
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ehnnt/ai_showdown_wizard_vicuna_vs_stable_vicuna_gpt4/jjpxt82/
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t1_jjpwfhq
I'm currently not 100% for increasing context length but 4k would surely make a difference. But I'm using LLMs for quick question and answer rounds similar to bingChat, so losing the theme after 10-20 messages would not be a problem. However, I also think it's very important to consider the software around the LLM...
3
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2023-05-11T09:23:26
BazsiBazsi
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jjpwfhq
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ed7re/4096_context_length_and_beyond/jjpwfhq/
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t1_jjpw7iy
>It gives him some comfort to talk to something that sounds like his friend. I don't think this is harmful for him, but if it turns out that it is, that he has any bad emotional responses to anything to do with it, then I'll stop working on it. It IS harmful. It'll only either fail, or stir up old memories that are go...
-1
0
2023-05-11T09:20:07
Drinking_King
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jjpw7iy
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ecakp/long_term_project_resurrecting_a_passed_friend/jjpw7iy/
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t1_jjpvjwg
That is something you’d have to poke the Vulkan community about. Last I looked (which was a while ago), they were only focused on graphics API, and AI specific functionality was no where on their roadmap. I use Nvidia cards now, not because I want to, but because Nvidia has better support for AI. I am not sure how muc...
1
0
2023-05-11T09:10:06
ComingInSideways
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null
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jjpvjwg
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/135vlfc/amd_rocm_55_released/jjpvjwg/
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t1_jjpvi7p
Sorry for the late response. I use this prompt with vicuna 13B and other local models of the same size. On GPT 3.5 and similar, run in the cloud, the censoring is too strong, so it won't work. There could be some other prompts out there that could 'jailbreak' even those models, but one would have to look or design them...
2
0
2023-05-11T09:09:24
Away-Sleep-2010
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null
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jjpvi7p
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ddjip/what_are_my_best_options_for_cpu_uncensored/jjpvi7p/
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t1_jjpvb2y
as far as I remember, P40 doesn't support fp16 native, but only via software emulation, therefore it's even slower than fp32. just in case, before you buy it, I would suggest to do more research about this GPU.
2
0
2023-05-11T09:06:22
curiousFRA
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null
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jjpvb2y
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13caqcd/i_put_together_plans_for_an_absolute_budget_pc/jjpvb2y/
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t1_jjpv2wv
Why?
5
0
2023-05-11T09:02:57
StopQuarantinePolice
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null
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jjpv2wv
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13c6ukt/the_creator_of_an_uncensored_local_llm_posted/jjpv2wv/
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t1_jjpuyes
Hey guys! So I had a little fun comparing Wizard-vicuna-13B-GPTQ and TheBloke\_stable-vicuna-13B-GPTQ, my current fave models. The outcome was kinda cool, and I wanna know what other models you guys think I should test next, or if you have any suggestions. I used LLaMA-Precise preset on the oobabooga text gen web UI fo...
14
0
2023-05-11T09:01:02
imakesound-
false
null
0
jjpuyes
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ehnnt/ai_showdown_wizard_vicuna_vs_stable_vicuna_gpt4/jjpuyes/
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t1_jjpus9t
You're so preoccupied with thinking if you could you forgot to stop and wonder if you should..
3
0
2023-05-11T08:58:24
LoathsomeNeanderthal
false
null
0
jjpus9t
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ecakp/long_term_project_resurrecting_a_passed_friend/jjpus9t/
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t1_jjpumfi
No, but thanks for asking!
1
0
2023-05-11T08:55:57
involviert
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null
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jjpumfi
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13c6ukt/the_creator_of_an_uncensored_local_llm_posted/jjpumfi/
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t1_jjpu2eq
Hey guys! So I had a little fun comparing Wizard-vicuna-13B-GPTQ and TheBloke\_stable-vicuna-13B-GPTQ, my current fave models. The outcome was kinda cool, and I wanna know what other models you guys think I should test next, or if you have any suggestions. I used LLaMA-Precise preset on the oobabooga text gen web UI fo...
1
0
2023-05-11T08:47:38
imakesound-
false
null
0
jjpu2eq
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ehf5e/ai_showdown_wizard_vicuna_vs_stable_vicuna_gpt4/jjpu2eq/
false
1
t1_jjpu0f3
At least you tried. Now go adjust that spacing....
3
0
2023-05-11T08:46:47
d3vilmaycryalot
false
null
0
jjpu0f3
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e0fkf/chatbot_arena_released_new_leader_board_with_gpt4/jjpu0f3/
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3
t1_jjpszi6
Do you want to move to Siberia?
5
0
2023-05-11T08:31:29
StopQuarantinePolice
false
null
0
jjpszi6
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13c6ukt/the_creator_of_an_uncensored_local_llm_posted/jjpszi6/
false
5
t1_jjps6me
Thank a lot for the tip! Anyone knows how much the cost for finetuning 13b?
1
0
2023-05-11T08:19:09
mevskonat
false
null
0
jjps6me
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13b8ij7/why_run_llms_locally/jjps6me/
false
1
t1_jjps612
the censored one will rarely, seemingly randomly, output junk refusal answers. Also prevents some nasty abuse. If I was going to let other people use it I'd probably only provide access to the censored one
1
0
2023-05-11T08:18:54
[deleted]
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jjps612
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e0fkf/chatbot_arena_released_new_leader_board_with_gpt4/jjps612/
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1
t1_jjps2ae
This is some Black Mirror shit right here.
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0
2023-05-11T08:17:17
lovelacedfuzz
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null
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jjps2ae
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ecakp/long_term_project_resurrecting_a_passed_friend/jjps2ae/
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t1_jjps22d
I wouldn't give too much about the result. In a chat competition, llama13b is just handicapped by not even being a chat model. This is not measuring the understanding of the llm or something. Also note how most people probably chatted about shallow BS, so it's not like this measures deep understanding.
3
0
2023-05-11T08:17:12
involviert
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null
0
jjps22d
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13e0fkf/chatbot_arena_released_new_leader_board_with_gpt4/jjps22d/
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t1_jjprcd2
Awesome to hear 30b is coming!
1
0
2023-05-11T08:06:18
[deleted]
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jjprcd2
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13dem7j/wizardlm13buncensored/jjprcd2/
false
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