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t1_jj8tj2e | how was the generation speed?
2mins of audio takes around 7mins processing time on my machine | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T19:18:49 | crash1556 | false | null | 0 | jj8tj2e | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13av3p0/nvidia_p40_24gb_are_they_useable/jj8tj2e/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8t7kt | Tim Dettmers would never make a false claim. There can be no doubt that it's true. | 6 | 0 | 2023-05-07T19:16:41 | faldore | false | null | 0 | jj8t7kt | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ahz60/bitsandbytes_4bit_finetuning_30b65b_llama_models/jj8t7kt/ | false | 6 |
t1_jj8ru0r | For me that's a different issue, since it doesn't talk as me, it just talks too much. Responses got interrupted in the middle when they hit the "max new tokens" limit (250 in my case), so I had to let it generate another reply (sometimes even more).
Sometimes it generated more than 500 tokens before completing a multi... | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-07T19:07:16 | WolframRavenwolf | false | null | 0 | jj8ru0r | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13avdxb/gpt_for_all_13b_gpt4all13bsnoozygptq_is/jj8ru0r/ | false | 3 |
t1_jj8rn1z | I tried it a few weeks ago for voice cloning and was able to get it running.
I found the result didn't sound like me at all though (even with like 30 minutes of voice samples) so never touched it again. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T19:05:54 | harrro | false | null | 0 | jj8rn1z | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13av3p0/nvidia_p40_24gb_are_they_useable/jj8rn1z/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8rlq2 | Thanks for the review, I’ve been wondering if I should try Stable | 5 | 0 | 2023-05-07T19:05:38 | ArtificialCitizens | false | null | 0 | jj8rlq2 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13avdxb/gpt_for_all_13b_gpt4all13bsnoozygptq_is/jj8rlq2/ | false | 5 |
t1_jj8rf48 | > Completely Uncensored
No. Just ask it to explain why some people hate <some protected group> | 7 | 0 | 2023-05-07T19:04:19 | Zueuk | false | null | 0 | jj8rf48 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13avdxb/gpt_for_all_13b_gpt4all13bsnoozygptq_is/jj8rf48/ | false | 7 |
t1_jj8qttv | Unfortunately the 3090 are around 1200$ where I live, so 2x what two 3060 would cost me. I'll wait a bit, it seems to be more of a hassle to use multi GPU for now.... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T19:00:09 | SabloPicasso | false | null | 0 | jj8qttv | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13a68z4/2x3060_in_sli/jj8qttv/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8qhen | Can confirm it's good! | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:57:42 | rini17 | false | null | 0 | jj8qhen | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13avdxb/gpt_for_all_13b_gpt4all13bsnoozygptq_is/jj8qhen/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8qbtf | It is censored, just not as bad. To be honest, my favorite model is Stable Vicuna. While it is censored, it is easy to get around and I find it creates longer and better responses than the other models. | 31 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:56:35 | azriel777 | false | null | 0 | jj8qbtf | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13avdxb/gpt_for_all_13b_gpt4all13bsnoozygptq_is/jj8qbtf/ | false | 31 |
t1_jj8q5db | nah. its fine. make your own. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:55:21 | rotaluspalace | false | null | 0 | jj8q5db | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13a8gpi/people_need_to_stop_naming_models_gpt4_anything/jj8q5db/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8q055 | I evaluated it and liked it, but noticed as well that it is a very talkative model. The problem with that is that it fills the context too quickly, so the AI can't remember as much as with more concise models.
If the cause of that is a missing stop sequence, maybe a 1.1 version could fix that - just as they did with V... | 7 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:54:20 | WolframRavenwolf | false | null | 0 | jj8q055 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13avdxb/gpt_for_all_13b_gpt4all13bsnoozygptq_is/jj8q055/ | false | 7 |
t1_jj8px84 | https://www.sbert.net/docs/pretrained_models.html
I don't know if there are models that work with ggml which produce usable embeddings. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:53:45 | Magnus_Fossa | false | null | 0 | jj8px84 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13axl4g/reality_check_on_good_embedding_model_and_this/jj8px84/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8pax8 | I'm in the same boat, right now. I'm working on a proof-of-concept system too.
1. There is HuggingFace sentence-transformers \[ [https://huggingface.co/sentence-transformers/all-mpnet-base-v2](https://huggingface.co/sentence-transformers/all-mpnet-base-v2) \] this is the one I'm currently working with. Sentence-transf... | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:49:28 | the_unknown_coder | false | null | 0 | jj8pax8 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13axl4g/reality_check_on_good_embedding_model_and_this/jj8pax8/ | false | 3 |
t1_jj8oz49 | tl;dr also that comment is 2 weeks old and don't call me bro, sockethead | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:47:11 | Dany0 | false | null | 0 | jj8oz49 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12una2g/agentllm_is_working_autogpt_with_llamacpp_and/jj8oz49/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8obqp | I'm on an M40 as well. I think it's been a couple weeks since I upgraded any of the big and often breakable libs and I'm getting about 10.17 with 7b running with a lora. So I'll second that it sounds like a dependency somewhere added a speedbump.
Also, thanks for putting together such a solid writeup. I wish I would h... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:42:36 | toothpastespiders | false | 2023-05-07T20:42:59 | 0 | jj8obqp | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13av3p0/nvidia_p40_24gb_are_they_useable/jj8obqp/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8ntxh | You could use an anonymous account or something like that. And I think it is highly unlikely that Meta would go after an individual as it would implicate so many people now.
Obligatory not a lawyer. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:39:06 | kedarkhand | false | null | 0 | jj8ntxh | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aidav/is_running_quantized_but_bigger_model_worth_it/jj8ntxh/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8ngpi | What CPU are you using? I have a gaming PC with a Ryzen 3500 and 5700XT. While Stable Diffusion runs very nicely using the 5700XT on Arch Linux with rocm, for Vicuna I'm using the just CPU via llama.cpp. Vicuna 13B works at about the speed of human conversation/typing so chat is definitely usable. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:36:32 | ozzeruk82 | false | null | 0 | jj8ngpi | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aqcxe/cheap_options_hardware_for_running_llm/jj8ngpi/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8mv32 | what's the difference? | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:32:19 | Primary-Ad2848 | false | null | 0 | jj8mv32 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/133efqp/pygmalion_releases_two_new_llama_based_models/jj8mv32/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8mkz8 | The first number I can, second number I don't know. First number, quantization, is basically compression. The smaller the number, the more hard-core the compression. This compression is lossy, think MP3 rather than ZIP, so you're trading off space/speed for accuracy. This tradeoff can be very valuable though, since it ... | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:30:22 | lefnire | false | null | 0 | jj8mkz8 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13acek6/what_do_the_files_with_pytorch_modelxofybin_mean/jj8mkz8/ | false | 3 |
t1_jj8meje | Like I noted, you have to install ROCm yourself if you're using the textgeneration models.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think you may be trying to run them without ROCm installed.
On arch it's fairly easy (you can just install paru and then use that to install the community hosted ROCm driver), but on other distros it's... | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:29:08 | Jaohni | false | null | 0 | jj8meje | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aqcxe/cheap_options_hardware_for_running_llm/jj8meje/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8m902 | Tesla P40 has really bad FP16 performance compared to more modern GPU's:
FP16 (half) =183.7 GFLOPS , FP32 (float) = 11.76 TFLOPS.
​
RTX 3090:
FP16 (half) = 35.58 TFLOPS, FP32 (float) = 35.58 TFLOPS. | 4 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:28:06 | MustBeSomethingThere | false | null | 0 | jj8m902 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13av3p0/nvidia_p40_24gb_are_they_useable/jj8m902/ | false | 4 |
t1_jj8l1i0 | What we really need is the computer of the Enterprise NCC1701-D. On my phone. And now? If it's large enough to contain real intelligence, it might as well know about knitting, imho. | 8 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:19:30 | involviert | false | null | 0 | jj8l1i0 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13awzg5/what_we_really_need_is_a_local_llm/jj8l1i0/ | false | 8 |
t1_jj8jkik | For cpu Xeon E5-2630L v2 with aliexpress dual cpu and 4 pcie motherboard and for gpu rx460really low coast stuff | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:09:00 | makakiel | false | null | 0 | jj8jkik | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aqcxe/cheap_options_hardware_for_running_llm/jj8jkik/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8jkbi | I had stable diffusion working, my problem was with vicuna GPTQ 4bit, I've tried everything but was never able to build, tried Triton also but no luck | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:08:58 | moophlo | false | null | 0 | jj8jkbi | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aqcxe/cheap_options_hardware_for_running_llm/jj8jkbi/ | false | 3 |
t1_jj8jcxo | Well one way to (maybe) know would be to convert a model to GPTQ 8bit and bench it vs B&B.. but I never got the GPTQ 8bit to perform inference if there was any context. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:07:32 | a_beautiful_rhind | false | null | 0 | jj8jcxo | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ahz60/bitsandbytes_4bit_finetuning_30b65b_llama_models/jj8jcxo/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8jcgx | I have Chrome too (and it's not a luxury) but I don't use Spotify (I'm allergic) and Discord (the same deal, but unfortunately I sometimes need to launch it so I figured I'd have it installed at least).
If I should talk about my "Chrome + music + chat" use, even 8 GB RAM is just fine (and yes, on Windows 11 too).
And... | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:07:27 | ccelik97 | false | 2023-05-07T18:14:03 | 0 | jj8jcgx | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aidav/is_running_quantized_but_bigger_model_worth_it/jj8jcgx/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8j65b | I forget exactly what the deal was with the 5700XT, but IIRC it's not supported under ROCm, so you have to have the line
export HSA\_OVERRIDE\_GFX\_VERSION=10.3.0
Somewhere in your script that executes the program.
It basically tells your system to treat your 5700XT as a Navi21 (6800 for instance) for the duration o... | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:06:14 | Jaohni | false | null | 0 | jj8j65b | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aqcxe/cheap_options_hardware_for_running_llm/jj8j65b/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8j3zr | [deleted] | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:05:50 | [deleted] | true | 2023-05-08T11:08:57 | 0 | jj8j3zr | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13av3p0/nvidia_p40_24gb_are_they_useable/jj8j3zr/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8iznn | No, that's all it took. I had to manually force trust_remote_flag in Ooba's GPTQ_loader file, but after that the model did come up. It's, uh, not great. I get about 1 t/s with a 3,000 context, and the responses seem very unimpressive (to be fair, I've never even used a 7b 4bit model before, so not sure what I was expec... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:05:00 | TeamPupNSudz | false | null | 0 | jj8iznn | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/139xi9l/how_can_i_try_mpt7bstorywriter/jj8iznn/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8ipp6 | If you are using cuda for the others and want to use Triton for this, then I would set up set up a separate Conda environment just to be safe. Even if you set them up together. Updates later could break something later. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T18:03:00 | scorpiove | false | null | 0 | jj8ipp6 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/139xi9l/how_can_i_try_mpt7bstorywriter/jj8ipp6/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8i9dt | have you tried tortoise-tts with your P40 by chance?
my 4090 works well but i was thinking of setting up a separate machine with a p40 so i can do other stuff | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:59:46 | crash1556 | false | null | 0 | jj8i9dt | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13av3p0/nvidia_p40_24gb_are_they_useable/jj8i9dt/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8i6wx | can I gaslight it to code "tools" for "research" | 4 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:59:16 | InitialCreature | false | null | 0 | jj8i6wx | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13avdxb/gpt_for_all_13b_gpt4all13bsnoozygptq_is/jj8i6wx/ | false | 4 |
t1_jj8i4lp | In the character parameter settings do you have #### in your name and the bots? This helped me with some models talking to itself. | 5 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:58:50 | VayneSquishy | false | null | 0 | jj8i4lp | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13avdxb/gpt_for_all_13b_gpt4all13bsnoozygptq_is/jj8i4lp/ | false | 5 |
t1_jj8i2jk | This is what I got from the original uploader. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:58:26 | hashms0a | false | null | 0 | jj8i2jk | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1386o9f/model_for_just_coding/jj8i2jk/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8i1ls | I got GPTQ working. I think all I did was checkout the git repository under the repositories directory and probably installed the requirements.txt file contents into the main venv. I was not really paying very close attention because I struggled with non-cuda support on the bitsandbytes at the same time and GPTQ workin... | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:58:15 | audioen | false | null | 0 | jj8i1ls | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aqcxe/cheap_options_hardware_for_running_llm/jj8i1ls/ | false | 3 |
t1_jj8hxw1 | Interesting, the first person style. I will try that, always looking for ways to make it easier for the model. Thanks!
Regarding logit-bias, I have been thinking about using that to stop punishing repition of format related tokens. But really I would like to handle specific sequences of tokens that way. Also I haven't... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:57:31 | involviert | false | null | 0 | jj8hxw1 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13af6yp/generative_agents_with_opensourced_large/jj8hxw1/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8h8xo | Your best bet would be Linux and text-webui with rocm, then install gptq somehow (I just gave up and used llama.cpp when I tried) and then run with parameter --auto-devices to split it on all available gpu's (and cpu i guess).
Can you share specific CPU and GPU models you have? | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:52:38 | FullOf_Bad_Ideas | false | null | 0 | jj8h8xo | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aqcxe/cheap_options_hardware_for_running_llm/jj8h8xo/ | false | 3 |
t1_jj8h1d1 | yeah since ethereum go to the dark side many ppl still have bunch gpu doing nothing. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:51:10 | makakiel | false | null | 0 | jj8h1d1 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aqcxe/cheap_options_hardware_for_running_llm/jj8h1d1/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8h0bt | I have a laptop with 16GB and it can't comfortably run such luxuries as "Chrome", "Spotify", and "Discord" at the same time.
I will fully admit that almost all of the time that I'm not doing anything intensive, "32GiB plus a little bit of room to spare" is actually all I need. But there's a sharp difference between "m... | 0 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:50:58 | skztr | false | null | 0 | jj8h0bt | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aidav/is_running_quantized_but_bigger_model_worth_it/jj8h0bt/ | false | 0 |
t1_jj8gxo3 | One issue I have with it, compared with Vicuna, is that it doesn’t seem to have a stop sequence. When I use Vicuna with llamacpp/koboldcpp, when it is done generating a piece, it sends the end sequence. GPT4All-snoozy just keeps going indefinitely, spitting repetitions and nonsense after a while. I don’t know if it is ... | 9 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:50:26 | antongrung23 | false | 2023-05-07T21:26:57 | 0 | jj8gxo3 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13avdxb/gpt_for_all_13b_gpt4all13bsnoozygptq_is/jj8gxo3/ | false | 9 |
t1_jj8gjy0 | It is in fact quite censored in my limited experience trying it over the last day. | 18 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:47:49 | nnod | false | null | 0 | jj8gjy0 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13avdxb/gpt_for_all_13b_gpt4all13bsnoozygptq_is/jj8gjy0/ | false | 18 |
t1_jj8gjsr | I totally understand your point, as an ex Ethereum miner I've also a bunch of 5700XT sitting there doing nothing, and I've also been able to run stable diffusion on them but I've miserably failed with GPTQ models 4bit on Linux. It seems there is now way and is a complete nightmare | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:47:47 | moophlo | false | null | 0 | jj8gjsr | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aqcxe/cheap_options_hardware_for_running_llm/jj8gjsr/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8g5pq | Is this the one you're using? The full model is 15B parameters and 4bit version is smaller to download than the 7B Llama models? I don't think that's right. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:45:07 | paryska99 | false | null | 0 | jj8g5pq | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1386o9f/model_for_just_coding/jj8g5pq/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8g5r9 | I'm sold, gotta get one. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:45:07 | jetro30087 | false | null | 0 | jj8g5r9 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13av3p0/nvidia_p40_24gb_are_they_useable/jj8g5r9/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8fol8 | I'm mostly using llama-based models but I've seen similar performance on the newer GPTJ models as well.
Definitely play with the CUDA/tranformers/GPTQ versions a bit, you should be able to get similar performance (I have less CPU and RAM than you also). | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:41:50 | harrro | false | null | 0 | jj8fol8 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13av3p0/nvidia_p40_24gb_are_they_useable/jj8fol8/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8fajf | Yep, pip install works for many (but parent post is asking if it ships with transformers).
I have an older generation card so sometimes I need to compile bitsandbytes without using the prebuilt binaries also. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:39:11 | harrro | false | null | 0 | jj8fajf | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ahz60/bitsandbytes_4bit_finetuning_30b65b_llama_models/jj8fajf/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8fa4p | M40s are slower, but I know, my numbers have significantly slowed down in the last weeks... when text-gen was first released my number were much higher. I'm not sure what's going on, haven't dug in to much because I've been training on different hardware. So assuming theirs been some changes in the libraries that are s... | 4 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:39:06 | wind_dude | false | null | 0 | jj8fa4p | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13av3p0/nvidia_p40_24gb_are_they_useable/jj8fa4p/ | false | 4 |
t1_jj8ewoa | I thought that was only for Windows, since Bitsandbytes technically doesn't support it. To use regular B&B with Linux you just need to pip install bitsandbytes, then use
transformers import AutoModelForCausalLM
model = AutoModelForCausalLM.from_pretrained(
load_in_8bit=True
) | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:36:31 | TeamPupNSudz | false | null | 0 | jj8ewoa | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ahz60/bitsandbytes_4bit_finetuning_30b65b_llama_models/jj8ewoa/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8et8m | Um, your numbers seem way too low even if it's a slightly older M40.
I have a P40 and I get 16 tokens per second on 13B models and 10 tokens/s on 30B models in 4 bit.
For OP, I have a thread here that provides more info about setting up P40 and numbers to expect:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Oobabooga/comments/126dejd/p4... | 7 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:35:54 | harrro | false | 2023-05-07T17:40:13 | 0 | jj8et8m | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13av3p0/nvidia_p40_24gb_are_they_useable/jj8et8m/ | false | 7 |
t1_jj8ebzl | Seriously. Imagine if every dependency had a 4-line console spam every time they load.
"Welcome to transformers!"
"Welcome to Torch!"
"Welcome to numpy!"
"Welcome to nvidia CUDA drivers!" | 13 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:32:36 | harrro | false | null | 0 | jj8ebzl | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ahz60/bitsandbytes_4bit_finetuning_30b65b_llama_models/jj8ebzl/ | false | 13 |
t1_jj8e7vl | Hmm, here's a theory.
So far all the people who have shown high speeds were all using intel CPUs.
[This website](https://www.tomshardware.com/news/running-your-own-chatbot-on-a-single-gpu), an i9
Op, an i5
Commenter above me (heytherepotato), an 13700k (Which search tells me is an i7)
And I'm using an Amd Ryzen ... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:31:48 | NekoSmoothii | false | null | 0 | jj8e7vl | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/137x4qg/discuss_gpu_configs_why_do_i_get_40_tokens_sec_on/jj8e7vl/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8e12p | Some days ago I used https://github.com/paolorechia/learn-langchain with vicuna | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:30:31 | jackcloudman | false | null | 0 | jj8e12p | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aw97e/ho_to_run_safetensors_models_with/jj8e12p/ | false | 3 |
t1_jj8drr8 | > Isn't Bitsandbytes built into Transformers?
It's not at this time - it requires a separate compile. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:28:47 | harrro | false | null | 0 | jj8drr8 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ahz60/bitsandbytes_4bit_finetuning_30b65b_llama_models/jj8drr8/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8dpms | Yeah I can agree escaping the fine-tune prompting does help. I change --mirostat_ent (it is model dependent) and at one point needed --logit-bias to avoid common traps but with improved prompting have removed that. For development I set the seed, and temperature I always use 0.1 My top_p is 1, and top_k is not applicab... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:28:23 | morph3v5 | false | null | 0 | jj8dpms | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13af6yp/generative_agents_with_opensourced_large/jj8dpms/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8dktu | [deleted] | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:27:27 | [deleted] | true | null | 0 | jj8dktu | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13akxx7/speed_up_reply_generation_on_apple_m2_pro/jj8dktu/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8dady | > I'm also curious what this adds over GPTQ
Isn't Bitsandbytes built into Transformers? I assume integrated support like that will be better in the long run as opposed to relying on some random forked repo like we are today. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:25:27 | TeamPupNSudz | false | null | 0 | jj8dady | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ahz60/bitsandbytes_4bit_finetuning_30b65b_llama_models/jj8dady/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8d6s8 | it's bizarre it's dropped with recent releases of text-gen-webui, transformers, and bitsandbytes, so i probably need to drop a bunch of the wrappers to get an accurate picture.
​
But llama 30b in 4bit I get about 0.8-1.2 t/s
llama 7b I'm getting about 5 t/s
llama 13b with a lora in 8bit is about 1-2t/s
... | 7 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:24:46 | wind_dude | false | 2023-05-07T17:29:12 | 0 | jj8d6s8 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13av3p0/nvidia_p40_24gb_are_they_useable/jj8d6s8/ | false | 7 |
t1_jj8cjy5 | I’m checking a tool “Freeplane” , my plan is use something like this tool and llama index for create a very detailed map about all my life for ask question to an LLM. You can also use for index all your business data and next just need “surf” the data. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:20:24 | jackcloudman | false | null | 0 | jj8cjy5 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13atoy5/how_does_bloom_compares_to_llama_and_forks/jj8cjy5/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8c80v | Thank you 🙏🏼 | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:18:07 | justinmeans | false | null | 0 | jj8c80v | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1386o9f/model_for_just_coding/jj8c80v/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8bov7 | I have a similar problem, i have a r7 5700x and 32gb ram, and the cpu works at 30%. My 3070ti 8vram cannot run the 13b model | 0 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:14:21 | Insommya | false | null | 0 | jj8bov7 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13akxx7/speed_up_reply_generation_on_apple_m2_pro/jj8bov7/ | false | 0 |
t1_jj8bgpj | What it's token/second performance on LLaMa models? | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:12:45 | jetro30087 | false | null | 0 | jj8bgpj | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13av3p0/nvidia_p40_24gb_are_they_useable/jj8bgpj/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8bash | Because they want IP and licensing rights to control ownership and exploit for their investors and shareholders.
Some smaller ones will band together but the big ones want to own it and so theyre doing their best to become number one, or partner long enough to compete with biggest one until their r&d efforts pay off, ... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:11:36 | ericnakagawa | false | null | 0 | jj8bash | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/139meyn/why_dont_companies_collaborate_together_in/jj8bash/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8avcy | I don't know about your setup, but when I get that error in Ooba, it's because it wasn't loaded with the 4bit and 128 group size options. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:08:37 | DeylanQuel | false | null | 0 | jj8avcy | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aw97e/ho_to_run_safetensors_models_with/jj8avcy/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj8afr1 | yes, I use an m40, p40 would be better, for inference its fine, get a fan and shroud off ebay for cooling, and it'll stay cooler plus you can run 24/7, don't pan on finetuning though. You'll also need to have a cpu with integrated graphics to boot or another gpu. | 4 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:05:38 | wind_dude | false | null | 0 | jj8afr1 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13av3p0/nvidia_p40_24gb_are_they_useable/jj8afr1/ | false | 4 |
t1_jj8a5vs | [removed] | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:03:44 | [deleted] | true | null | 0 | jj8a5vs | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13av3p0/nvidia_p40_24gb_are_they_useable/jj8a5vs/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj8a3vq | 1 or 2 used p40s or even older m40s is the cheapest way to go for inference. plus being designed for data centres, and using an ebay shroud you can run them 24x7 without worrying about over heating/cooling issues. Don't plan on finetuning on it though. | 5 | 0 | 2023-05-07T17:03:21 | wind_dude | false | null | 0 | jj8a3vq | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aqcxe/cheap_options_hardware_for_running_llm/jj8a3vq/ | false | 5 |
t1_jj89lvr | >Imo, there is literally no way to prevent the same degradation from occurring by going from 16bit precision to 4bit.
Bitsandbytes' LLM.int8() uses "a mixed-precision decomposition scheme, which isolates the outlier feature dimensions into a 16-bit matrix multiplication while still more than 99.9% of values are multip... | 5 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:59:53 | rerri | false | null | 0 | jj89lvr | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ahz60/bitsandbytes_4bit_finetuning_30b65b_llama_models/jj89lvr/ | false | 5 |
t1_jj88nz2 | Bruh, it called GPT-4chan because it trained on 4chan data. Also, GPT-4 released after GPT-4chan, so it's OpenAI stole the name | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:53:18 | Ok-Tap4472 | false | null | 0 | jj88nz2 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13a8gpi/people_need_to_stop_naming_models_gpt4_anything/jj88nz2/ | false | 3 |
t1_jj887pc | Have a link to this video? A cursory search of YouTube did not find it. I’d love to watch. I’ve noticed the decline in 3.x. I thought that 3 & 4 were the same size in number of parameters but that 4 is the result of heavier RLHF. But it seems that 4 knows more. 4 knows langchain, for one example. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:50:14 | One_King2724 | false | null | 0 | jj887pc | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13a8gpi/people_need_to_stop_naming_models_gpt4_anything/jj887pc/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj886rb | Would you be able to tell me what prompt template to use? I tried to read through the space code but it's a bit complex and I wasn't quite sure what was being used.
In the training it looked like you trained on standard Alpaca template:
```
Below is an instruction that describes a task. Write a response that appropria... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:50:04 | The-Bloke | false | null | 0 | jj886rb | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/139gmht/h2oais_llama_30b/jj886rb/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj87mrt | I've joined your discord channel :)
Sometimes I may not be able to reply in time due to the time difference lol | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:46:09 | CORNMONSTER_2022 | false | null | 0 | jj87mrt | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13af6yp/generative_agents_with_opensourced_large/jj87mrt/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj86nmc | >I feel like you will have a bad time running this on multi gpu config, especially with more than 2 gpus.
>
>Have you thought about running it on used P40 or a CPU?
I have CPUs like 12 ivy bridge core with 1gb by core. And I have a bunch of AMD gpu compatible with rocm.
My point it's to use what I already have... | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:39:17 | makakiel | false | null | 0 | jj86nmc | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aqcxe/cheap_options_hardware_for_running_llm/jj86nmc/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj86fw1 | All things equal yes but fine tuning can make a big difference in reasoning abilities too.
A 13b vicuna reasons a lot better than a 7b vicuna, but a 7b wizardLM reasons better than a 13b alpaca even tho they are all using llama base | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:37:47 | Faintly_glowing_fish | false | null | 0 | jj86fw1 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13atoy5/how_does_bloom_compares_to_llama_and_forks/jj86fw1/ | false | 3 |
t1_jj868r8 | Hmm yeah, you mentioned *actual* productivity stuff like PhotoShop & Blender. If you're actively using these on day to day basis, especially professionally, then sure, I too would argue that 32+32GB dual channel and high speed RAM is just the bare minimum to not to ever have to be bothered about it, ever.
But most peo... | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:36:26 | ccelik97 | false | null | 0 | jj868r8 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aidav/is_running_quantized_but_bigger_model_worth_it/jj868r8/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj85wgw | You can also try editing the config,
catai config --edit nano
Change
useMmap: true
It will be slower, but it will use fewer resources and have more chances to work. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:34:02 | ido-pluto | false | null | 0 | jj85wgw | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/139kfrb/how_to_install_wizardvicuna/jj85wgw/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj85u1r | The tricked-out high-end version of the M2 Pro has 8 efficiency cores, but the 'normal' version of the M2 pro has 10 cores total, 6 being efficiency cores, 4 being 'slow' cores. So set it to 6 if you have the 'normal' version, 8 for the upgraded version.
I personally have a Mac mini m2 pro and can attest to setting th... | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:33:33 | spanielrassler | false | null | 0 | jj85u1r | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13akxx7/speed_up_reply_generation_on_apple_m2_pro/jj85u1r/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj85ofd | Funny story.. I don't really use the models I convert :) Not yet anyway. I'm finding all my needs met by GPT 4. I either use my ChatGPT Pro sub or Bing.
I can definitely foresee a time in the future when I might want a lot more messages and the usage limits on those systems would be a factor. But so far it hasn't been... | 5 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:32:27 | The-Bloke | false | null | 0 | jj85ofd | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/138szrl/new_llama_13b_model_from_nomicai_gpt4all13bsnoozy/jj85ofd/ | false | 5 |
t1_jj8556i | I've only heard anecdotal evidence of someone using one on Discord. No idea on performance. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:28:40 | Radiant_Dog1937 | false | null | 0 | jj8556i | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13av3p0/nvidia_p40_24gb_are_they_useable/jj8556i/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj84yvb | I just copied from their README but yeah that is cleaner :)
I've edited the OP! | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:27:24 | The-Bloke | false | null | 0 | jj84yvb | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/138szrl/new_llama_13b_model_from_nomicai_gpt4all13bsnoozy/jj84yvb/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj84x0t | I am under the assumption that larger model reason better, it is not the case? | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:27:02 | cgcmake | false | null | 0 | jj84x0t | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13atoy5/how_does_bloom_compares_to_llama_and_forks/jj84x0t/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj83zo2 | Cool! The easiest way to connect with me would probably be Discord if you don't mind using it. I'm on there pretty much daily ( we could get in touch through the server I made for my project [https://discord.gg/aSTAA55dBb](https://discord.gg/aSTAA55dBb) ).
Though, if you prefer reddit, that can certainly work too. I j... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:20:36 | Calandiel | false | null | 0 | jj83zo2 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13af6yp/generative_agents_with_opensourced_large/jj83zo2/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj83c4v | Not even close.
+ Some foundation models with zero ClosedAI data: Pythia, GPT-Neo(X), GPT-J, LLaMA
+ Some chat models with zero ClosedAI data: all the models by `togethercomputer`, Databricks/Dolly, bigcode/santacoder and bigcode/starcoder
Since ClosedAI has a legal clause that you can't use their output to create a... | 6 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:15:57 | 4onen | false | null | 0 | jj83c4v | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13a8gpi/people_need_to_stop_naming_models_gpt4_anything/jj83c4v/ | false | 6 |
t1_jj83agn | I feel like you will have a bad time running this on multi gpu config, especially with more than 2 gpus.
Have you thought about running it on used P40 or a CPU? | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:15:38 | FullOf_Bad_Ideas | false | null | 0 | jj83agn | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aqcxe/cheap_options_hardware_for_running_llm/jj83agn/ | false | 3 |
t1_jj835jb | Normally, yes.
8 bit is slower on pascal cards (1080) and prior right now.
8 bit is also slower in general on models smaller than 13b or so.
4 bit is generally faster than 16 bit, but \*sometimes\* has odd issues. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:14:40 | bioemerl | false | null | 0 | jj835jb | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aidav/is_running_quantized_but_bigger_model_worth_it/jj835jb/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj82x1y | To take advantage of the H100, you are looking at a full PCIE gen 5 rebuild, and the supported amount of servers for them is very small at the moment.
You need to look at your workload and determine if it can use the capabilities of the Hopping line and the 9.0 Compute Capability that only it has right now.
[http... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:12:57 | TheNotSoEvilEngineer | false | null | 0 | jj82x1y | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/139dp6n/one_h100_or_two_a100/jj82x1y/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj82wdt | Looks like the m2 pro has 8 high performance cores. Try setting `--threads 8` I found that the efficiency cores slowed me down with the 7b model.
If you're using the quickstart stuff look here for how to do that -
https://github.com/oobabooga/one-click-installers/blob/126d216384b65e28936a432a7a5514907f0c5b92/INSTRU... | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:12:49 | otoz | false | null | 0 | jj82wdt | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13akxx7/speed_up_reply_generation_on_apple_m2_pro/jj82wdt/ | false | 3 |
t1_jj82ezt | Do you really need a very good model if it just need to understand the content of your Jira? 13b models can still reason well but they are short on knowledge, but here you don’t seem to need them to have much knowledge. Do you really need your Jira bot to know about yelp reviews of restaurants in South Africa? | 3 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:09:21 | Faintly_glowing_fish | false | null | 0 | jj82ezt | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13atoy5/how_does_bloom_compares_to_llama_and_forks/jj82ezt/ | false | 3 |
t1_jj826um | I've had the same thoughts about stable diffusion for a long time. It feels like the missing piece in both ecosystems is a simple headless API that can load models and perform inference.
On the SD side ComfyUI feels a lot closer to this, because while it has a UI, it's node based workflow forces modularity in a way th... | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T16:07:44 | _praxis | false | null | 0 | jj826um | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13a062v/introducing_agentooba_an_extension_for_oobaboogas/jj826um/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj80yi8 | Yeah its kind of sad that there was almost no appreciable gain in Vram from the 30 to 40 series.
Honestly everything at the 24GB line right now is \~ the same cost.
Model / Price / Compute capability
4090 - $1700 - 8.9
3090 ti - $1600 - 8.6
A5000 - $1700 - 8.6
A30 - $4000 - 8.0
A10 - $2-3k - 8.6
P40 ... | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T15:59:02 | TheNotSoEvilEngineer | false | null | 0 | jj80yi8 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13a2rnj/worth_downgrading_3080_to_3060_for_more_vram/jj80yi8/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj7zpzs | I would have recommended 30b if I knew a good finetune version. Vicuna 13b 4bit works extraordinarily well, in my experience even beating the unquantified version, and it’s very fast. WizardLM is also good and fast but i only 7b is out; a 13b version was posted somewhere but I haven’t tested it.
Non of the 30b mod... | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T15:50:18 | Faintly_glowing_fish | false | null | 0 | jj7zpzs | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aidav/is_running_quantized_but_bigger_model_worth_it/jj7zpzs/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj7zi4w | BLOOM sucks due to severe undertraining. Don't even bother with it. GPT-NeoX will be the closest in size. Probably just wait a few weeks and there will be more >13B models coming out. | 12 | 0 | 2023-05-07T15:48:45 | CKtalon | false | null | 0 | jj7zi4w | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13atoy5/how_does_bloom_compares_to_llama_and_forks/jj7zi4w/ | false | 12 |
t1_jj7zfo9 | I do (just check my nickname on Github) but I haven't uploaded this project there.
I may end up making it into a commercial product so I hope you can understand the tension \^\^'
That being said, I do want to upload a Godot plugin for running models on the CPU with llama.cpp through an easy to use Node class. Ther... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T15:48:15 | Calandiel | false | null | 0 | jj7zfo9 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13af6yp/generative_agents_with_opensourced_large/jj7zfo9/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj7wbxq | CheshireAI, would you recommend setting up a specific Conda environment to prevent issues with other models? | 5 | 0 | 2023-05-07T15:26:06 | PookaMacPhellimen | false | null | 0 | jj7wbxq | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/139xi9l/how_can_i_try_mpt7bstorywriter/jj7wbxq/ | false | 5 |
t1_jj7w5d4 | This may be related to how much free ram you have on your computer.
You need at least 5gb of ram free.
If it not working, I recommend to reinstall canai
```
npm r -g catai
npm i -g catai
``` | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T15:24:46 | ido-pluto | false | null | 0 | jj7w5d4 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/139kfrb/how_to_install_wizardvicuna/jj7w5d4/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj7w1bx | Hey, thanks for your response. I really want to share the model, but I don't know how much I am in trouble if meta did go after me. I am currently going through final exams, so this is a stressful period and I don't have much time. But if I find a way to safely and cheaply share them, I will do that. More benchmarks ar... | 5 | 0 | 2023-05-07T15:23:56 | Blacky372 | false | null | 0 | jj7w1bx | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13aidav/is_running_quantized_but_bigger_model_worth_it/jj7w1bx/ | false | 5 |
t1_jj7w127 | actually it won't ? Do you even know what your talking about bro? Pure Llama model better than a smaller instruction tuned model? Bro..time for you to start reading the literature. With tuning yea 30b would be as performant as gpt-4. You guys need to actually read. I see a lot people, even other programmers...making w... | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T15:23:53 | Unlucky_Excitement_2 | false | null | 0 | jj7w127 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12una2g/agentllm_is_working_autogpt_with_llamacpp_and/jj7w127/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj7vuwr | I've actually had better results with the 7B q5_1 model, especially the uncensored one. You should very much consider it due to size and speed, even if you find it to be slightly worse (which I don't).
Also note that there is A LOT of quality to gain or lose with the inference settings. A slight change can make the di... | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T15:22:38 | involviert | false | 2023-05-07T15:28:08 | 0 | jj7vuwr | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13af6yp/generative_agents_with_opensourced_large/jj7vuwr/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj7vszc | [https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/05/04/missing-the-moat-with-ai/](https://www.nextplatform.com/2023/05/04/missing-the-moat-with-ai/)
LoRAs are the big game changer here. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T15:22:14 | TheNotSoEvilEngineer | false | null | 0 | jj7vszc | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13a8gpi/people_need_to_stop_naming_models_gpt4_anything/jj7vszc/ | false | 2 |
t1_jj7vg8a | This is what Midjourney does, so would make sense. | 1 | 0 | 2023-05-07T15:19:39 | tsangberg | false | null | 0 | jj7vg8a | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13a8gpi/people_need_to_stop_naming_models_gpt4_anything/jj7vg8a/ | false | 1 |
t1_jj7v1pa | I'm also curious what this adds over GPTQ which already has hundreds of models quantized for it.
Not only does GPTQ already support 4/3/2 bit and has for months but also supports 4-bit finetuning which I myself have done with no issues. | 2 | 0 | 2023-05-07T15:16:34 | harrro | false | null | 0 | jj7v1pa | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13ahz60/bitsandbytes_4bit_finetuning_30b65b_llama_models/jj7v1pa/ | false | 2 |
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