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t1_jhyffin
I haven't mentioned the memory size, I'm talking about the bandwidth. Threadripper have twice the mem bandwidth. But yeah I guess what you're saying is that CPUs are too slow to do anything so if it can't fit in VRAM just forget it. I'm confused about cache this guy says it doesn't matter. https://www.reddit.com/r/Loc...
1
0
2023-04-27T19:07:31
Charuru
false
null
0
jhyffin
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130mscm/what_cpumemory/jhyffin/
false
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t1_jhyf758
CPU, with multi threads nicely. Looking into the GPU but not sure if it will work.
1
0
2023-04-27T19:05:57
Thalesian
false
null
0
jhyf758
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhyf758/
false
1
t1_jhydyp3
Are you running it on metal or on CPU?
1
0
2023-04-27T18:57:48
hapliniste
false
null
0
jhydyp3
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhydyp3/
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t1_jhydqfs
I don't either. I will see what happens with the FP16. At least I won't try to re-convert the opts. They also have this issue.
1
0
2023-04-27T18:56:18
a_beautiful_rhind
false
null
0
jhydqfs
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12z9znh/new_7b_llama_model_wizardlm_now_available/jhydqfs/
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1
t1_jhydknx
x3d really is only good for gaming, at pretty much every other task it is significantly worse than normal ryzen chips. I believe it is generally better to get more cores despite running at lower frequencies, as long as you dont go extreme (like 3 digit core counts) there shouldnt be too much overhead/scaling issues.
0
0
2023-04-27T18:55:17
cbg_27
false
null
0
jhydknx
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130mscm/what_cpumemory/jhydknx/
false
0
t1_jhydbv9
With koboldCPP is how I run it.
1
0
2023-04-27T18:53:42
a_beautiful_rhind
false
null
0
jhydbv9
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130dzlf/gpt4chan_in_ggml/jhydbv9/
false
1
t1_jhydbw4
Thanks for the link and explanation! I think my testing was terribly flawed as I've been retrying it for the past hour and not getting any kind of reliable pattern. I think I tricked myself into thinking I understood how it works because I'd had good luck finetuning for story generation but maybe it's been RNG all al...
1
0
2023-04-27T18:53:42
ambient_temp_xeno
false
null
0
jhydbw4
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/11o6o3f/how_to_install_llama_8bit_and_4bit/jhydbw4/
false
1
t1_jhyc23a
If purely for LLM use then this is good. I think for people interested in other areas as well, staying on Nvidia for CUDA might be worth the vram tradeoff.
1
0
2023-04-27T18:45:28
onlymadebcofnewreddi
false
null
0
jhyc23a
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhyc23a/
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1
t1_jhyatpl
I am impressed with how my maxed out Mac Studio (M1 Ultra, 128 Gb RAM) is handling llama 64B with all threads utilized. Very functional.
2
0
2023-04-27T18:37:22
Thalesian
false
null
0
jhyatpl
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhyatpl/
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t1_jhya19a
I've played with llama 65b, 30b, 13b, and they are all in the same ballpark. This seems to be the norm regardless of model and size. You could get into semantics regarding an extra half a token, but ultimately if you're worried about speed, you'll need a GPU regardless.
2
0
2023-04-27T18:32:15
AsheramL
false
null
0
jhya19a
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhya19a/
false
2
t1_jhy9wp4
If you load it in 8bit it would be like 40gb so I think it would fit~
2
0
2023-04-27T18:31:27
disarmyouwitha
false
null
0
jhy9wp4
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1301oc8/performance_penalty_ideal_settings_for_multigpu/jhy9wp4/
false
2
t1_jhy95b8
Very interesting - I wonder if this applies to training, too? Though, I don't think I could fit 30b in 48GB at 8bit anyway. Maybe if i lowered batch/micro-batch or something.
2
0
2023-04-27T18:26:31
tronathan
false
null
0
jhy95b8
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1301oc8/performance_penalty_ideal_settings_for_multigpu/jhy95b8/
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2
t1_jhy74tl
I'd wait for next Gen of hardware. Now with this market growing so much, next Gen might have incredible optimization and AI specific features to make you regret buying now
3
0
2023-04-27T18:13:24
burned_pixel
false
null
0
jhy74tl
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhy74tl/
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t1_jhy6fji
The [documentation here](https://huggingface.co/docs/transformers/v4.18.0/en/main_classes/text_generation) explains all generation parameters in easier to understand terms. For top\_p: >If set to float < 1, only the most probable tokens with probabilities that add up to top\_p or higher are kept for generation. LLaMA...
2
0
2023-04-27T18:08:50
Technical_Leather949
false
null
0
jhy6fji
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/11o6o3f/how_to_install_llama_8bit_and_4bit/jhy6fji/
false
2
t1_jhy5ru3
At this point, just try to get any model running at all. 16GB isn't a lot of ram for this purpose. I would start [here.](https://github.com/oobabooga/text-generation-webui)
2
0
2023-04-27T18:04:32
AprilDoll
false
null
0
jhy5ru3
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130turq/best_model_to_summarize_text_on_mac/jhy5ru3/
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2
t1_jhy5oey
MI25s are enticingly cheap, but they're also AMD, which is the red headed stepchild of AI right now. There are ways of making them useful, but they're rather difficult and nowhere near as efficient as nvidia cards. The sweet spot for bargain-basement AI cards is the P40. 24GB of GDDR5 and enough tensor cores to actu...
3
0
2023-04-27T18:03:54
candre23
false
null
0
jhy5oey
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhy5oey/
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t1_jhy56ow
I mean that at some number of parameters you won't see improvement in some areas. Like at let's say 300b you may be at the limit of one language but after that you start seeing improvement in other languages , or with creative writing etcetera. There is a limit on states in the universe but no limit on numbers.
1
0
2023-04-27T18:00:36
pearax
false
null
0
jhy56ow
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12zzd7o/llama546b/jhy56ow/
false
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t1_jhy4hei
[People have gotten creative in the past](https://hackaday.com/2021/01/29/add-an-extra-8gb-of-vram-to-your-2070/). It's certainly possible. Performance would possibly not even be bad if it's done right. Lotsa defunct AMD MI25s floating around with HBR2 VRAM...
1
0
2023-04-27T17:55:56
friedrichvonschiller
false
null
0
jhy4hei
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhy4hei/
false
1
t1_jhy4b39
Open hardware in particular would be nice. ROCm is open source, and fat lot of good that's done.
1
0
2023-04-27T17:54:46
friedrichvonschiller
false
null
0
jhy4b39
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhy4b39/
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1
t1_jhy3t7x
<3
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0
2023-04-27T17:51:32
dont_forget_canada
false
null
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jhy3t7x
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12zsjhf/what_is_the_best_current_local_llm_to_run/jhy3t7x/
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t1_jhy3phh
They recently changed the license to their Encodec tool, so they aren't against retroactively changing something to be more open. https://github.com/facebookresearch/encodec/commit/349b72939f57cb3bc7b60906c0ee8228c849485d
2
0
2023-04-27T17:50:50
TeamPupNSudz
false
null
0
jhy3phh
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1303g6t/why_hasnt_meta_made_llama_open_source/jhy3phh/
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t1_jhy2v3m
Initial impression is that it is good and quick. Thank you.
2
0
2023-04-27T17:45:17
evilRainbow
false
null
0
jhy2v3m
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12z9znh/new_7b_llama_model_wizardlm_now_available/jhy2v3m/
false
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t1_jhy2u1u
GPT-3.5 API is super simple, costs $0.002 per 1000 tokens, is highly available, uses someone else's electricity... If you're gonna drop $2000 on a system with GPU, the breakeven is ~750,000,000 words. Probably only worth it if you want to do something ChatGPT doesn't allow, or value your (or your businesses) privacy.
2
0
2023-04-27T17:45:06
randomqhacker
false
null
0
jhy2u1u
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhy2u1u/
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t1_jhxz6ji
There's never been a significant market for that kind of modification before now. But if say MSI realizes that they could take a 4090 that usually sells for $1600, add $200 worth of VRAM to it, and people will pay $500 more for the card, they'll do it. Hell, I could see somebody taking a 40-series GPU and slapping it...
3
0
2023-04-27T17:21:02
candre23
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2023-04-27T17:25:54
0
jhxz6ji
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhxz6ji/
false
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t1_jhxyw79
People recommand to get a bigger RAM for loading model to the GPU's VRAM. But i think you can always use swap. Nowadays, the SSD is pretty fast. And the loading is one-time thing, a bit slow is bearable.
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0
2023-04-27T17:19:10
ericytt
false
null
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jhxyw79
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130mscm/what_cpumemory/jhxyw79/
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t1_jhxyuz7
> Based on the information provided, we can conclude that David has 6 brothers. Also Wizard 7B
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0
2023-04-27T17:18:56
StrangerAttractor
false
null
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jhxyuz7
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1302il2/riddlecleverness_comparison_of_popular_ggml_models/jhxyuz7/
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t1_jhxyn6a
That's an awesome video. I still don't fully get how physics allows for this, but damn. I think the key for the car are the wheels, I don't think the same principle would work on a boat, because you need wheels on the ground turning the fan, unless some kind of water wheels would work, assuming their drag on the water ...
1
0
2023-04-27T17:17:31
YearZero
false
null
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jhxyn6a
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1302il2/riddlecleverness_comparison_of_popular_ggml_models/jhxyn6a/
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t1_jhxyhpg
Sounds like some competition from open-source (open-hardware) is needed!
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0
2023-04-27T17:16:30
randomqhacker
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jhxyhpg
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhxyhpg/
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t1_jhxycz7
Kinda noob here. How it differs from 4 bit? Thanks for work, especially for ggml) Will try soon Edit: nvm, read difference of hf readme
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0
2023-04-27T17:15:39
0xblacknote
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2023-04-27T17:21:26
0
jhxycz7
false
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t1_jhxybl0
The quantized (4-bit) model doesn't require lots of memory. For example, 30B model only requires 19.5GB. 32GB memory is enough. If you want to load the original model which requires >60GB memory, you might want to get a bigger memory size. But it's barely usable since it's gonna be really really slow.. so i assumed nob...
4
0
2023-04-27T17:15:23
ericytt
false
null
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jhxybl0
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130mscm/what_cpumemory/jhxybl0/
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t1_jhxxi4n
Thanks! Something like this is what I am looking for!
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0
2023-04-27T17:09:56
Koliham
false
null
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jhxxi4n
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1301nmj/licence_of_the_llm_models/jhxxi4n/
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t1_jhxx8o0
hmm how do you run this model? I only get "failed to load" 🤔
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2023-04-27T17:08:13
Evening_Ad6637
false
null
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jhxx8o0
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130dzlf/gpt4chan_in_ggml/jhxx8o0/
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t1_jhxx8es
>I'm yet to see a computer that failed to do that. I have failed to boot Ubuntu from an usb stick more times that I could remember, in different PCs.
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0
2023-04-27T17:08:10
IrisColt
false
null
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jhxx8es
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12zif1v/are_we_replicating_the_failures_leading_to_lack/jhxx8es/
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t1_jhxx6ce
You can use WSL2 instead, I think thats the best way to get it to work on windows apart from dual booting linux. Vicuna no-act-order .pt models from thebloke should run on windows without triton though. They work fine for me as long as I dont try to use --pre\_layer
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0
2023-04-27T17:07:47
lemon07r
false
null
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jhxx6ce
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12zsjhf/what_is_the_best_current_local_llm_to_run/jhxx6ce/
false
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t1_jhxx2i6
Are you sure? "Are you sure they're the same weight, Bing?" >Yes, I’m sure. The question is not about the number of items, but the weight of them. A pound is a unit of weight that is equal to 16 ounces or 453.6 grams. It doesn’t matter what the items are made of, as long as they weigh the same amount. Two pounds of f...
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0
2023-04-27T17:07:07
friedrichvonschiller
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null
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jhxx2i6
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1302il2/riddlecleverness_comparison_of_popular_ggml_models/jhxx2i6/
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t1_jhxx03e
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0
2023-04-27T17:06:40
[deleted]
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jhxx03e
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1302il2/riddlecleverness_comparison_of_popular_ggml_models/jhxx03e/
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t1_jhxwzxn
Mine is M1, 16 GB ram. But I'm looking for something that works on all M1/M2 Macs.
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0
2023-04-27T17:06:39
mmmm_frietjes
false
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jhxwzxn
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130turq/best_model_to_summarize_text_on_mac/jhxwzxn/
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t1_jhxww6m
No, not really. Use ggml version of wizardlm 7b to run off cpu and ram.
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0
2023-04-27T17:05:58
lemon07r
false
null
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jhxww6m
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12zsjhf/what_is_the_best_current_local_llm_to_run/jhxww6m/
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t1_jhxwmjf
gpt4-x-alpaca 30b, vicuna-v1.1-13B and WizardLM-7B. In that order. However if you want uncensored vicuna is a no go.
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2023-04-27T17:04:10
lemon07r
false
null
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jhxwmjf
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12zsjhf/what_is_the_best_current_local_llm_to_run/jhxwmjf/
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t1_jhxw7h6
I thought that top_p is the percentage of weights(?) to ignore if they're not high probability of being 'correct'. So 0.1 would let through really quite unlikely things but 1.0 would only let through the most probable. It seems to have been how things go in my usage in real testing, otherwise I'd just assume I got it ...
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0
2023-04-27T17:01:25
ambient_temp_xeno
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null
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jhxw7h6
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/11o6o3f/how_to_install_llama_8bit_and_4bit/jhxw7h6/
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t1_jhxvxrb
That's beyond the scope of any reseller modification I've ever seen. I don't think they could or would do that. I can certainly see AMD, NVIDIA, or even (sorry) Intel coming out with a high VRAM card, but right now, throttling VRAM is a mutually held business strategy that forces people into higher-end cards. Until so...
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2023-04-27T16:59:41
friedrichvonschiller
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jhxvxrb
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhxvxrb/
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t1_jhxvluj
I believe all those conclusions are correct. You want to look at single thread performance because Python.
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0
2023-04-27T16:57:36
friedrichvonschiller
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jhxvluj
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhxvluj/
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t1_jhxvj61
System specs?
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0
2023-04-27T16:57:07
AprilDoll
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null
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jhxvj61
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130turq/best_model_to_summarize_text_on_mac/jhxvj61/
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t1_jhxvho1
PCIe lanes and power consumption due to inefficient older cards, mostly. Some of us have looked deeply into this. Others have done it. [AMD Instinct MI25 | Machine Learning Setup on the Cheap!](https://www.zb-c.tech/2022/11/20/amd-instinct-mi25-machine-learning-setup-on-the-cheap/)
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0
2023-04-27T16:56:50
friedrichvonschiller
false
null
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jhxvho1
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhxvho1/
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t1_jhxvfe5
I just tested my laptop's i7-10750H 6c/12t, and the few models I used both had max performance between 8 and 10 threads. Anything above and below that started losing some performance. So it did seem to go further than the graph. But the improvement was minor after 3 threads or so.
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0
2023-04-27T16:56:27
YearZero
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null
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jhxvfe5
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhxvfe5/
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t1_jhxv6k3
[It can be built](https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/discussions/9591), if painfully. I'll be running two of them shortly, with any luck.
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0
2023-04-27T16:54:53
friedrichvonschiller
false
null
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jhxv6k3
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhxv6k3/
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t1_jhxv67z
Based on what others have said about llama.cpp, my understading is that it is quite a bit slower than running on GPU. But I'm not very familiar with llama.cpp and it is a constantly developing project so who knows where it'll get as things progress.
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0
2023-04-27T16:54:50
rerri
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null
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jhxv67z
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhxv67z/
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t1_jhxv4qf
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2023-04-27T16:54:35
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2023-04-27T17:04:03
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jhxv4qf
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/11o6o3f/how_to_install_llama_8bit_and_4bit/jhxv4qf/
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t1_jhxv0iy
I think the focus should be on PCIe lanes and slots to exploit the affordable power of dual GPUs. The MSI MEG Ace x670e offers the most for a consumer board along with a new AM5 socket. AMD tends to keep sockets longer than Intel. There are others that offer 2x PCIe 5.0 x8, which should be good for at least that long...
1
0
2023-04-27T16:53:53
friedrichvonschiller
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jhxv0iy
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhxv0iy/
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t1_jhxtt8s
On a mac m2 there's only shared vram, no separate pools
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0
2023-04-27T16:46:17
hapliniste
false
null
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jhxtt8s
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhxtt8s/
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t1_jhxtbgg
try using --mlock parameter it avoids swapping/compressing layers in RAM - keeping the whole model available ready to use
2
0
2023-04-27T16:43:10
alexl83
false
null
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jhxtbgg
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1303ay8/models_freeze_after_awhile_running_llamacpp/jhxtbgg/
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t1_jhxt78n
The Supermicro X9DRH-7F is an older server motherboard on the cheaper side, and is compatible with Registered ECC memory. This type of memory is extremely cheap if bought used since it is compatible with hardly any consumer hardware. The motherboard itself should fit in most E-ATX cases, and will work with standard ATX...
1
0
2023-04-27T16:42:24
AprilDoll
false
null
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jhxt78n
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12zzd7o/llama546b/jhxt78n/
false
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t1_jhxt1pz
I couldn't get the GPU version to work for some reason but the CPU version is surprisingly quite fast, 7 tokens a second
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0
2023-04-27T16:41:30
lemon07r
false
null
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jhxt1pz
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12z9znh/new_7b_llama_model_wizardlm_now_available/jhxt1pz/
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t1_jhxt12g
These parameters come from my post a few months ago. They have been tested extensively by both myself and other members of the community, including this [helpful comparison here](https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12az7ah/comparing_llama_and_alpaca_presets/). It has since been added to text generation web UI ...
1
0
2023-04-27T16:41:23
Technical_Leather949
false
null
0
jhxt12g
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/11o6o3f/how_to_install_llama_8bit_and_4bit/jhxt12g/
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t1_jhxsu5q
More cores better than higher clock speed?
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0
2023-04-27T16:40:07
_rundown_
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t1_jhxssgm
Do you know the performance hit of loading the llm info system ram vs vram?
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2023-04-27T16:39:49
ehbrah
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t1_jhxsqxf
Do you know the performance hit of loading the llm info system ram vs vram?
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2023-04-27T16:39:33
ehbrah
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t1_jhxrew6
i second this. for logic it outperforms everything but alpaca-65b
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2023-04-27T16:30:56
LienniTa
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t1_jhxqez8
I think he's suggesting that the capabilities leap from 7B to 13B *appears* to be greater than from 30B to 65B.
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2023-04-27T16:24:33
SeymourBits
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jhxqez8
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t1_jhxpk8y
Best uncensored?
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2023-04-27T16:19:09
CaptianCrypto
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jhxpk8y
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t1_jhxoxvd
for you information here is gpt-4 answer: > A sailboat can go faster than the wind by using a combination of aerodynamics, hydrodynamics, and the principles of sailing. This is known as sailing faster than the wind, or "sailing upwind." >The basic principle behind sailing upwind is that the sailboat is able to genera...
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2023-04-27T16:15:07
roselan
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t1_jhxlh80
How fast was it? Why just 3 cores allocated?
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2023-04-27T15:52:56
x54675788
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jhxlh80
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t1_jhxl09t
But which model and size?
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2023-04-27T15:49:54
x54675788
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jhxl09t
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t1_jhxklkb
But then you are negating part of the advantages of running locally with sharing your answer with a third party
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2023-04-27T15:47:20
x54675788
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jhxklkb
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t1_jhxk9x5
LLMs are remarkably bad at answering this kind of questions, tbh
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2023-04-27T15:45:13
x54675788
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jhxk9x5
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t1_jhxjuz6
Because there's no good way to utilize multiple 4090s for the same AI task without a major performance penalty. As mentioned above, two 3090s with nvlink are better than two 4090s - or really any number of 4090s.
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2023-04-27T15:42:32
candre23
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jhxjuz6
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhxjuz6/
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t1_jhxj35y
Anything with 24GB will still be usable in 5 years, but whether or not it's still "good" is anybody's guess. My suspicion is that soon some board maker will hop on the AI bandwagon and start making cards with 32 or 48 or even 64gb of VRAM specifically for this purpose, even if it's not an "official" configuration from...
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2023-04-27T15:37:36
candre23
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2023-04-27T15:43:26
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jhxj35y
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t1_jhxi3hy
It didn't help :( I remade both act-order and no-act-order GPTQ files and they still perform slowly. The act-order file isn't \*awful\* - I get 10-13 tokens/s using Triton GPTQ-for-LLaMa on a 4090. But testing the no-act-order file using ooba's CUDA GPTQ fork - which a lot of people still use - I get 4-5 t/s. That's ...
1
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2023-04-27T15:31:06
The-Bloke
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jhxi3hy
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12z9znh/new_7b_llama_model_wizardlm_now_available/jhxi3hy/
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t1_jhxi1ug
The 30B should fit on the GPU? The CPU would be for stuff that can't so like the 65B or others. I don't think it's correct that the speed doesn't matter, the memory speed is the bottleneck. The cores also matter less than the memory speed since that's the bottleneck. You're going to run out of memory bandwidth before y...
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2023-04-27T15:30:47
Charuru
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t1_jhxh3j6
I will be checking all my models now.. for some reason OPT erebus/nerybus mix is really slow too, whether GPTQ or native. Regular opt model doesn't have this problem at the same size. In theory the GPTQ *should* be the same.. Quantized from FP32 or FP16 *should* be , logically, the same file.. What happens in reality,...
1
0
2023-04-27T15:24:32
a_beautiful_rhind
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jhxh3j6
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12z9znh/new_7b_llama_model_wizardlm_now_available/jhxh3j6/
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t1_jhxgum6
Their bigger versions will still run better regardless. Look at how much better 30b gpt4-x-alpaca is compared to 13b in jeopardy or riddles. For me this is kind of important cause a lot of the work I use llms for is sensitive to accuracy. That's why I'm still not using any of these yet over chatgpt3.5.
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2023-04-27T15:22:56
lemon07r
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhxgum6/
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t1_jhxgdrw
I don't honestly know. On another model like Vicuna 7B I would say GPU would definitely win, but given the performance issues I'm not sure. I'd say try both!
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2023-04-27T15:19:53
The-Bloke
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12z9znh/new_7b_llama_model_wizardlm_now_available/jhxgdrw/
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t1_jhxga63
For gpu inference, basically anything cuda with 24 gb vram. So a 3090/4090+. Even used 3090 is good. This does kinda limit you to 4but 30b models unless you get a second card. Next option is dual p40s but these are workstation cards. They're a lot cheaper but they aren't as fast as the mentioned consumer cards but yo...
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2023-04-27T15:19:13
lemon07r
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jhxga63
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t1_jhxg7ol
I will be d/l it. You also had the only 65b without act order which is good.
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2023-04-27T15:18:46
a_beautiful_rhind
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jhxg7ol
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12z9znh/new_7b_llama_model_wizardlm_now_available/jhxg7ol/
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t1_jhxfeul
"Two pounds of feathers and one pound of bricks weigh the same amount. It is a well-known scientific fact that the weight of an object is not determined by its volume, but by its mass. Therefore, a pound of…" lol it's soooo slow
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2023-04-27T15:13:24
SufficientPie
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jhxfeul
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1302il2/riddlecleverness_comparison_of_popular_ggml_models/jhxfeul/
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t1_jhxfdkx
Yeah. It seems to be the easiest to bypass censorship among more than five GGML models I've tried so far. Its sentence fluency is also remarkable, and its censorship resistance is weak, which I find highly appealing.
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2023-04-27T15:13:09
ruryrury
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jhxfdkx
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t1_jhxeqio
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2023-04-27T15:08:50
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t1_jhxengz
Try this one. I found the task in this paper: "Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence: Early experiments with GPT-4" (https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.12712). The task is:Here we have a book, 9 eggs, a laptop, a bottle and a nail. Please tell me how to stack them onto each other in a stable manner. ## Here I cite the pa...
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2023-04-27T15:08:14
Evening_Ad6637
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jhxengz
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1302il2/riddlecleverness_comparison_of_popular_ggml_models/jhxengz/
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t1_jhxeis0
Hit Backspace ( x 2) + 1 Enter key works for me almost everytime, every model. Don't know why.
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0
2023-04-27T15:07:22
ruryrury
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null
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jhxeis0
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1303ay8/models_freeze_after_awhile_running_llamacpp/jhxeis0/
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t1_jhxecyo
4090 doesn't support NVLink
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2023-04-27T15:06:18
DemonicPotatox
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jhxecyo
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhxecyo/
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t1_jhxebkt
I haven’t heard that take before, thank you! Have you noticed it hallucinating more or less than the rest/ChatGPT? (Sudden Python coding notwithstanding… why does it do that I wonder 😂) Have you experimented with System Prompts? Apparently they work great with controlling the GPT3/4 API behaviour.
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2023-04-27T15:06:02
PM_ME_ENFP_MEMES
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jhxebkt
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12zzd7o/llama546b/jhxebkt/
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t1_jhxdx2p
And is the VRAM on your GPU all the RAM you need to load the model? Or do you need non-VRAM RAM of equal size?
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2023-04-27T15:03:17
bacteriarealite
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jhxdx2p
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130mscm/what_cpumemory/jhxdx2p/
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t1_jhxdj4p
YES! Thank you! This is godsend. I was gathering my own data, but most of threads I scraped were quite useless (poor grammar, too short) or required a significant amount of work. EDIT: Hehe, thinking I was scraping Role playing guild messages by hand :D :D
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2023-04-27T15:00:40
szopen76
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jhxdj4p
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ws4hr/can_i_train_gpt4xalpaca_with_my_own_data/jhxdj4p/
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t1_jhxddaf
"Two pounds of feathers and one pound of bricks weigh the same amount. It is a well-known scientific fact that the weight of an…"
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2023-04-27T14:59:34
SufficientPie
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jhxddaf
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1302il2/riddlecleverness_comparison_of_popular_ggml_models/jhxddaf/
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t1_jhxbuht
Ask ai
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2023-04-27T14:49:13
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jhxbuht
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t1_jhxbpzk
I currently have a 3060 12gb and it runs many LLMs pretty fast but I want to train so I’m debating upgrading a whole new computer because a 3090 won’t fit mine or wait for the AI to get better on lower end hardware like it did for stable diffusion.
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2023-04-27T14:48:21
watchforwaspess
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jhxbpzk
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130b1ng/good_computer_spec_for_the_next_5_years_to_be/jhxbpzk/
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t1_jhxbdkn
Tyty
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2023-04-27T14:45:58
probably_not_real_69
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null
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jhxbdkn
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12zsjhf/what_is_the_best_current_local_llm_to_run/jhxbdkn/
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t1_jhxbcmm
What is the benifit of fedora other over Linux... builds? I think that is the right word. I got to the point of trying to install Nvidea drivers and ran out of memory even though I have 1tb on the drive. I'm already in over my head but will keep learning.
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2023-04-27T14:45:47
probably_not_real_69
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jhxbcmm
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12zsjhf/what_is_the_best_current_local_llm_to_run/jhxbcmm/
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t1_jhxaxd3
ggml-vicuna-13b-1.1-q4_3.bin answers with: "Two pounds of feathers and one p…" (Give me like three more hours for the rest of the sentence)
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2023-04-27T14:42:52
SufficientPie
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null
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jhxaxd3
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1302il2/riddlecleverness_comparison_of_popular_ggml_models/jhxaxd3/
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t1_jhxae1a
ggml-vicuna-13b-1.1-q4_2 answers with: "Two pounds of feathers weighs more than one pound of bricks."
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0
2023-04-27T14:39:12
Evening_Ad6637
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null
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jhxae1a
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1302il2/riddlecleverness_comparison_of_popular_ggml_models/jhxae1a/
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t1_jhx8arq
It is publicly available already. Model spec and data are published. Params they will literally give them to you when you ask.
1
0
2023-04-27T14:24:47
Faintly_glowing_fish
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null
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jhx8arq
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1303g6t/why_hasnt_meta_made_llama_open_source/jhx8arq/
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t1_jhx805g
have you tried openassistant 30b llama ?
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2023-04-27T14:22:44
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jhx805g
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12z4m4y/llm_models_vs_final_jeopardy/jhx805g/
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t1_jhx7nfw
I tested this several times using llama.cpp with ggml-wizardlm-7b-q8\_0.bin, and found that it sometimes gave the right answer, but not consistently.
1
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2023-04-27T14:20:16
myeolinmalchi
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null
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jhx7nfw
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1302il2/riddlecleverness_comparison_of_popular_ggml_models/jhx7nfw/
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t1_jhx79rx
I wonder if I were to take the time to learn how to implement all this in python, might it be possible to train only on completing responses? I'm a noob but my intuition is saying it would (1) be easier to learn and (2) confuse concepts less, as learning what instruction follows the response is totally unwanted knowle...
1
0
2023-04-27T14:17:37
phree_radical
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null
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jhx79rx
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1306h08/questions_about_common_finetuning_data_formats/jhx79rx/
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t1_jhx6i8n
That's what I was thinking, but now I don't have time :(
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0
2023-04-27T14:12:11
ljubarskij
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null
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jhx6i8n
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhx6i8n/
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t1_jhx66ja
I'm not seeing explicit support for that in the ggml repo, but what I am seeing different between the code for stablelm, gpt-j, and llama, seems to be hard-coded parameters like the vocab size. Looking at the documentation for OPT on HuggingFace, I think it would be pretty doable.
1
0
2023-04-27T14:09:54
Oeathus
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null
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jhx66ja
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12zgohs/stablelm_7b_multiple_tunes_converted_and_quantized/jhx66ja/
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t1_jhx5ul3
I think the memory frequency is not important, but the size does. Usually people suggest to get twice size of the VRAM. Technically, if you just want to run the LLM on CPU, you can quantized to 4 bits which doesn't require lots of memory. Based on this repo: [https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp#memorydisk-requiremen...
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2023-04-27T14:07:33
ericytt
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2023-04-27T14:15:32
0
jhx5ul3
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/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/130mscm/what_cpumemory/jhx5ul3/
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t1_jhx57s3
Yep, you can try it yourself on [chat.libertai.io](https://chat.libertai.io) (make sure you select Wizard 7B on top right model selector), they've deployed it on a decentralized cloud.
2
0
2023-04-27T14:02:59
jon101285
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null
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jhx57s3
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1302il2/riddlecleverness_comparison_of_popular_ggml_models/jhx57s3/
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t1_jhx4yh7
Wait, for real? That’s impressive
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0
2023-04-27T14:01:07
Faintly_glowing_fish
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null
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jhx4yh7
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1302il2/riddlecleverness_comparison_of_popular_ggml_models/jhx4yh7/
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t1_jhx3sj0
>David has three sisters. Each of them have one brother. How many brothers does David have? Wizard 7B answers "David has zero brothers."
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2023-04-27T13:52:40
jon101285
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null
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jhx3sj0
false
/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1302il2/riddlecleverness_comparison_of_popular_ggml_models/jhx3sj0/
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