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t1_jhp6t22 | Yo, that's rad | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:31:15 | phree_radical | false | null | 0 | jhp6t22 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12y3stx/embeddings/jhp6t22/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhp6474 | Hey, thanks a lot, that's very nice of you to share. I've bookmarked it to try it out later when I have some time to get started with LangChain more seriously. | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:26:49 | WolframRavenwolf | false | null | 0 | jhp6474 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yb0wx/langchain_vicuna_server_added_support_for/jhp6474/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhp54zs | Hi, the easiest way in my opinion at the moment for Q/A is using two models:
1. One for embedding extraction / search
2. A LLM that will receive the result of the search, and formulate a nicely written down answer.
You can glue these search and answer flow together using langchain.
Of course, you could also try fine... | 5 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:20:28 | rustedbits | false | null | 0 | jhp54zs | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ypnhh/llama_training_size/jhp54zs/ | false | 5 |
t1_jhp4ru0 | Yeah true. | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:18:04 | bitdotben | false | null | 0 | jhp4ru0 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhp4ru0/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhp4rcl | this is amazing! how much slower is it? and do you have any resources on setting such a machine up? | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:17:59 | FriendDimension | false | null | 0 | jhp4rcl | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12xdsi9/what_is_the_best_llama_i_can_run_on_my_machine/jhp4rcl/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhp4psl | Yes, I think so. I'm making an assistant, and I've given it access to things like my calendar and the weather. The weather I pass in straight from NWS' descriptions, and so it comes in like:
`This Afternoon: Sunny with a high near 77. Northwest wind 7 to 10 mph.Tonight: Increasing clouds, with a low around 48. West no... | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:17:42 | the_quark | false | 2023-04-25T20:41:18 | 0 | jhp4psl | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12xr7h0/what_is_the_theoretical_best_consumer_grade_pc/jhp4psl/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhp4ikb | Higher end threadrippers cost obscene amount of money, you can buy several GPUs for that.
I recently compared Whisper's performance between CPU and GPU. My old i5-9400F shows 1/18 performance of 3090
Looking at performance scores I can imagine that something new like Ryzen 9 7950X will have 1/3. Slower, but still d... | 3 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:16:24 | SnooCats3884 | false | null | 0 | jhp4ikb | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhp4ikb/ | false | 3 |
t1_jhp4fog | Oh, I'm not trying to argue. I'm trying to spell out the costs. I don't want people to think they can just buy a couple of M40/P40s and be done with it. That they can simply plug those in and that's that. It's not as simple as that for the most people. I doubt most people will have a MB capable of taking 2 GPUs. I doub... | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:15:52 | fallingdowndizzyvr | false | null | 0 | jhp4fog | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhp4fog/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhp3zwl | Not quite.. you can split the model though. On textgenUI this is done with --gpu-memory, on kobold you can put whatever layers on whatever GPU.
Slowest GPU will hold you up but it's better than not being able to run it. | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:13:02 | a_beautiful_rhind | false | null | 0 | jhp3zwl | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12xdsi9/what_is_the_best_llama_i_can_run_on_my_machine/jhp3zwl/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhp3hfy | BTW, I compared the Vicuna Embeddings I extracted against a sentence transformer, and as I suspected, the sentence transformer was much superior: [https://gist.github.com/paolorechia/c9f6aa8316882fc0710d54eb8dfa3f52](https://gist.github.com/paolorechia/c9f6aa8316882fc0710d54eb8dfa3f52)
Source code: [https://github.co... | 7 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:09:40 | rustedbits | false | null | 0 | jhp3hfy | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12y3stx/embeddings/jhp3hfy/ | false | 7 |
t1_jhp30or | Yeah I’m not arguing with you, I also said 13B is sweetspot on CPU!
My normal desktop (including power supply) already worked with the two GPUs. I taped two radial (blower style) fans to one end and it works. Total cost 220€. I don’t know what you wanna hear. Is it super pratical? No? But I wanted to debunk the point ... | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:06:39 | bitdotben | false | null | 0 | jhp30or | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhp30or/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhp30n0 | is there a way to share vram across two different gpus such as a 4090 and a 2060? Thanks for all this information this is all new to me! | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:06:38 | FriendDimension | false | 2023-04-25T20:09:58 | 0 | jhp30n0 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12xdsi9/what_is_the_best_llama_i_can_run_on_my_machine/jhp30n0/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhp2zda | > slightly less capable 7B 4bit model
The output difference between 7B and 13B models is pretty large from what I've seen. | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:06:25 | harrro | false | null | 0 | jhp2zda | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yh5pv/was_able_to_run_13b_4bit_and_stable_diffusion_at/jhp2zda/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhp2sq8 | I suspected, the embeddings are garbage for Q/A, I did a quick comparison with a sentence transformer, results here:
[https://gist.github.com/paolorechia/c9f6aa8316882fc0710d54eb8dfa3f52](https://gist.github.com/paolorechia/c9f6aa8316882fc0710d54eb8dfa3f52) | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:05:13 | rustedbits | false | null | 0 | jhp2sq8 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yb0wx/langchain_vicuna_server_added_support_for/jhp2sq8/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhp2rba | The 7950x beats the 13900k or is on par with it on all the parallel tasks in that video you link (Blender, file compression, etc). | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:04:58 | gybemeister | false | null | 0 | jhp2rba | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhp2rba/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhp2mo0 | What about the other costs to support that? How much did the computer that can take 2 GPUs cost? What about the power supply? What about engineering the cooling solution? What about the earplug budget for the sound from that cooling solution?
On my little steam deck using only the CPU. I get 3-4 tok/s with a 13B model... | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:04:05 | fallingdowndizzyvr | false | null | 0 | jhp2mo0 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhp2mo0/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhp2dgn | I was comparing the Ryzen to the Treadripper, not the 13900k (which I don't have and can't compare). | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:02:26 | gybemeister | false | null | 0 | jhp2dgn | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhp2dgn/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhp21f5 | Oh, thank you. Either the sticky post was incorrect, or my memory of it was. Sorry about that! | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T20:00:20 | the_quark | false | null | 0 | jhp21f5 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhp21f5/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhp1ro1 | I bought two Tesla M40 24GB for a total of 200€ and it’s a dream with 30B I get 10tok/s. | 6 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:58:32 | bitdotben | false | null | 0 | jhp1ro1 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhp1ro1/ | false | 6 |
t1_jhp1cue | [deleted] | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:55:54 | [deleted] | true | 2023-04-25T20:14:50 | 0 | jhp1cue | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12hi6tc/complete_guide_for_koboldai_and_oobabooga_4_bit/jhp1cue/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhp0zay | I don't know. | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:53:31 | faldore | false | null | 0 | jhp0zay | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12pwygc/red_pajama/jhp0zay/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhozw4v | These. Both the 4 bit 0 and 2 versions.
https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/alpaca-lora-65B-GGML
The responses I get aren't nearly as good as a Vicuna 13B model. They are much shorter and much more huh? | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:46:29 | fallingdowndizzyvr | false | null | 0 | jhozw4v | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhozw4v/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhoz22h | Yeah, spending $1600+ just to get a 30b running quickly in GPU. I use 65b on CPU with Telegram and if I really want quick back and forth I’ll just use my OpenAI API key. | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:41:03 | Susp-icious_-31User | false | null | 0 | jhoz22h | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhoz22h/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhoz1xu | NVlink is no longer supported in the new cards, like 4090. | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:41:02 | disarmyouwitha | false | null | 0 | jhoz1xu | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ycnf0/i_have_two_4090s_is_there_any_way_to_work_a_model/jhoz1xu/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhoytwb | Now we need someone to quantize it in 4bit so that we 6GB VRAM peasants can try it out. | 3 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:39:35 | PauNoCuDoRedditBR | false | null | 0 | jhoytwb | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yax3h/wizardlm_finetuned_llama_7b_with_evolving/jhoytwb/ | false | 3 |
t1_jhoyjw0 | Which model is it? I’m running plain ol Llama 65b and it’s been quite humanlike. | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:37:49 | Susp-icious_-31User | false | null | 0 | jhoyjw0 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhoyjw0/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhows3l | Do you know when they started training? So that update you shared said they are 40% done, did they start the training process a week ago? Also are they planning on releasing their checkpoints or nothing until they are 100% done? | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:26:09 | ML_SWE | false | null | 0 | jhows3l | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12pwygc/red_pajama/jhows3l/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhowdb1 | Don't listen to people, but reputable outlets: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWw6q6fRnnI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWw6q6fRnnI) | 3 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:23:27 | ericek111 | false | null | 0 | jhowdb1 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhowdb1/ | false | 3 |
t1_jhovy22 | Laptop with an i5-9300 with 64GB of RAM. Then linux running in a VM with 45GB of RAM and 3 cores allocated to it. | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:20:40 | fallingdowndizzyvr | false | null | 0 | jhovy22 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhovy22/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhovjyf | What hardware configuration? | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:18:05 | Maofead | false | null | 0 | jhovjyf | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhovjyf/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhovh1r | > For larger models, GPU is the way to go.
For large models, you can't fit them onto GPU(s) without spending a whole lot of money. So IMO, CPUs are the way to go large. | 7 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:17:34 | fallingdowndizzyvr | false | null | 0 | jhovh1r | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhovh1r/ | false | 7 |
t1_jhouwyq | Fair enough, it is a GUI, but you will still need to run an install command. Probably it could work on Windows with some tiny adjustments. In WSL2 it will work out of the box (because it is basically Linux). | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:13:52 | ichiichisan | false | null | 0 | jhouwyq | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yc8op/new_open_source_framework_and_nocode_gui_for/jhouwyq/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhoulhb | That's not true. I'm running a 65B in a VM with 45GB of memory allocated. It loaded just fine with RAM to spare. | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:11:48 | fallingdowndizzyvr | false | null | 0 | jhoulhb | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhoulhb/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhoulic | You can create a Linux vm, configure there a big ram as a swap file, save the swap file on ssd, run the vm. I think this could resolve it 🤔 | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:11:48 | Evening_Ad6637 | false | null | 0 | jhoulic | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yc8op/new_open_source_framework_and_nocode_gui_for/jhoulic/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhou65r | Thanks! | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:09:05 | ljubarskij | false | null | 0 | jhou65r | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhou65r/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhou4it | I'm getting strange output as well. It's not nearly as coherent as a 13B or even a 7B model. For somethings it's OK. For most things, I'm like "what?". | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:08:48 | fallingdowndizzyvr | false | null | 0 | jhou4it | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhou4it/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhoty8i | Do you mean 7950x? From what I see, in both single-core and multi-core benchmarks it loses to 13900k. Also it doesnt support cheaper ddr4 which looks to be faster than ddr5 (at least for now). Also people say that it produces more geat... | 0 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:07:40 | ljubarskij | false | null | 0 | jhoty8i | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhoty8i/ | false | 0 |
t1_jhotqmf | I'm waiting for response from my 65B bit instance right now. I have it hobbled in a VM with 3 cores. I have 45GB of RAM allocated to it. Using 3 cores in a VM on a i5-9300 I get about .75 tokens/second. | 3 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:06:19 | fallingdowndizzyvr | false | 2023-04-25T19:12:04 | 0 | jhotqmf | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhotqmf/ | false | 3 |
t1_jhot1o3 | if you want a look outside llama as well, https://huggingface.co/nomic-ai/gpt4all-j is of GPT-J 6B lineage but it has been performing quite well so far.
othervise vicuna | 3 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:01:45 | LoSboccacc | false | null | 0 | jhot1o3 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ychts/what_is_the_best_7b_model_have_you_found_so_for/jhot1o3/ | false | 3 |
t1_jhosvom | > Text-gen: ~2.4 t/s average with minor stuttering each time SD finishes an image
You might as well run it using your CPU at that point and leave the GPU for SD. Since even my little steam deck gets 3-4 t/s. | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T19:00:40 | fallingdowndizzyvr | false | null | 0 | jhosvom | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yh5pv/was_able_to_run_13b_4bit_and_stable_diffusion_at/jhosvom/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhos1l5 | [deleted] | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:55:18 | [deleted] | true | null | 0 | jhos1l5 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yax3h/wizardlm_finetuned_llama_7b_with_evolving/jhos1l5/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhor305 | The 13900k has 8 cores plus 16 eCores whereas the cheapest Threadripper has 16 cores which should be faster for parallel tasks such as this. Having said that, if you don't go for a higher core (and more expensive) threadripper it would be better to go for the latest 16 Core Ryzen which is cheaper. | 5 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:49:08 | gybemeister | false | null | 0 | jhor305 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhor305/ | false | 5 |
t1_jhoqgse | How's your impressions so far? Worth the upgrade? | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:45:09 | x54675788 | false | null | 0 | jhoqgse | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12xr7h0/what_is_the_theoretical_best_consumer_grade_pc/jhoqgse/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhoq50x | Vicuña for almost any task! But when it comes to 'remembering' long context, for me it feels like gpt4all is a liiiittle bit better.
But for anything else: Vicuna is champion! I tested it with logic tasks and with translation tasks and it was ways better than other models. | 5 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:43:03 | Evening_Ad6637 | false | null | 0 | jhoq50x | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ychts/what_is_the_best_7b_model_have_you_found_so_for/jhoq50x/ | false | 5 |
t1_jhop6ge | Ah it is understandable with regard to the stability. If you offer a cloud finetune tool I think quantization is probably very optional. But locally the issue is simply a matter of enough ram being available for the model one wants and often 4 bit can be the only version that is doable | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:36:48 | Faintly_glowing_fish | false | null | 0 | jhop6ge | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yc8op/new_open_source_framework_and_nocode_gui_for/jhop6ge/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhonpev | This has more to do with some conflicting information I've seen. One person mentioned that pytorch can effectively split models between GPUs with little to no overhead while another person mentioned that the slow transfer speeds over the PCI bus can cause severe degradation. If I start with a single 3090, I get the 2... | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:27:14 | AsheramL | false | null | 0 | jhonpev | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12vxxze/most_cost_effective_gpu_for_local_llms/jhonpev/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhonfsl | Is it possible, during fine tuning, to spill from VRAM -> RAM -> Disk (VM)? I think that would be an amazing capability. The ability to fine tune a LLM with virtual memory would open it up to so many more people. I did the math and a modern NVMe drive is around 100x slower than VRAM. But some fine tunes only take a few... | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:25:30 | jd_3d | false | null | 0 | jhonfsl | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yc8op/new_open_source_framework_and_nocode_gui_for/jhonfsl/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhonci2 | any hope for getting 30B running on a 16gb 4080? | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:24:56 | dealingwitholddata | false | null | 0 | jhonci2 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yh5pv/was_able_to_run_13b_4bit_and_stable_diffusion_at/jhonci2/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhomkt8 | For some it will, but I think there's a lot of less technical folks who would be turned off by that. When I think of a GUI, I usually think no more command line, but with WSL2 it sounds like there will be a lot of command line operations to get it setup (have not used WSL2 before). | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:20:01 | jd_3d | false | null | 0 | jhomkt8 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yc8op/new_open_source_framework_and_nocode_gui_for/jhomkt8/ | false | 1 |
t1_jholuom | Latest commit to Gpt-llama allows to pass parameters such as number of threads to spawned LLaMa instances, and the timeout can be increased from 600 seconds to whatever amount if you search in your python folder for api_requestor.py and edit it. I'm getting reasonable results adjusting parameters | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:15:17 | Merdinus | false | null | 0 | jholuom | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12x9k9g/i_build_a_completely_local_and_portable_autogpt/jholuom/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhol71o | Well i am planning to buy a new PC and i have a budget, so i guess i will buy 13900k and 128gb ram | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:11:00 | ljubarskij | false | null | 0 | jhol71o | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhol71o/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhokrs6 | Interesting, I have personally not been a fan of 8bit yet due to it being already quite slow and slightly more unstable. Will look into 4bit. | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:08:16 | ichiichisan | false | null | 0 | jhokrs6 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yc8op/new_open_source_framework_and_nocode_gui_for/jhokrs6/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhokqh9 | I don't have one to experiment with, so perhaps I am wrong; I don't know the exact answer to your question. | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:08:02 | the_quark | false | null | 0 | jhokqh9 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhokqh9/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhoknzd | There is a discussion in a different comment about this. | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:07:37 | ichiichisan | false | null | 0 | jhoknzd | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yc8op/new_open_source_framework_and_nocode_gui_for/jhoknzd/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhoklxp | Thanks for the interest! In general I’ve experienced quite a low performance for coding tasks too, the models struggle with syntax errors etc.
The odd thing is that my original over engineered prompt to fetch a Chuck Norris joke from a JSON endpoint only worked on a 7B model Vicuna version that I converted myself - al... | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:07:14 | rustedbits | false | null | 0 | jhoklxp | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yb0wx/langchain_vicuna_server_added_support_for/jhoklxp/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhokjnl | Pure Windows will not work due to CUDA. But I am using WSL2 regularly on Windows and it will work out of the box there. Is this an option? | 3 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:06:49 | ichiichisan | false | null | 0 | jhokjnl | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yc8op/new_open_source_framework_and_nocode_gui_for/jhokjnl/ | false | 3 |
t1_jhokibj | How much threads per physical core are we talking about? The Problem with threadrippers is that the cheapest one costs almost double of 13900k and has less cores, so i am not convinced. Or am I missing something? | 3 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:06:34 | ljubarskij | false | null | 0 | jhokibj | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhokibj/ | false | 3 |
t1_jhokhfk | thank you for sharing | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:06:25 | tamal4444 | false | null | 0 | jhokhfk | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yh5pv/was_able_to_run_13b_4bit_and_stable_diffusion_at/jhokhfk/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhojw08 | Based on my (limited) experimentation with it, the number of parallel execution threads you have is the single most important thing once you have enough RAM to load it. If you're looking for a new box I'd personally be looking at AMD Threadrippers. This thing scales with the threads you can run. So doubling the number ... | 5 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:02:32 | the_quark | false | null | 0 | jhojw08 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhojw08/ | false | 5 |
t1_jhojmx1 | 48GB is enough to \*barely\* run it if you don't have basically anything else in memory. However, it's not enough to \*load\* it. You need 64GB of RAM to be able to load and run it. | 3 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:00:54 | the_quark | false | null | 0 | jhojmx1 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhojmx1/ | false | 3 |
t1_jhojlta | One last bit, the 30B 4bit models run (just barely) with 32GB and occasionally punch well above their weight, worth playing with those first if you are willing to wait on non-gpu generated output. | 3 | 0 | 2023-04-25T18:00:43 | atbenz_ | false | null | 0 | jhojlta | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhojlta/ | false | 3 |
t1_jhojfra | Haha, exactly! Was just thinking about it today. (Was developing telegram chatgpt bot) | 4 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:59:38 | ljubarskij | false | null | 0 | jhojfra | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhojfra/ | false | 4 |
t1_jhojekt | not a bad ideea | 4 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:59:26 | Status-Recording-325 | false | null | 0 | jhojekt | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhojekt/ | false | 4 |
t1_jhoja2z | Hmm, what can i run on a Ryzen with 128gb ram ? i have a shitty GPU | 7 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:58:38 | Status-Recording-325 | false | null | 0 | jhoja2z | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhoja2z/ | false | 7 |
t1_jhoj2l3 | I have 64 GB RAM and a Ryzen 7 5800X (8 cores / 16 threads). I get about 1 token per second (noticing a theme yet?).
The trick to using a model this big is to pair it with Telegram to get notifications for your messages there. Then it changes psychologically from being super slow for an AI to a pretty fast response ... | 21 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:57:18 | Susp-icious_-31User | false | null | 0 | jhoj2l3 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhoj2l3/ | false | 21 |
t1_jhoiipu | Thank you | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:53:47 | ljubarskij | false | null | 0 | jhoiipu | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhoiipu/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhoid9n | Yep 4bit. Specifics are llama.cpp from about a week ago, running in windows, with the mlock flag and fixing the number of threads to less than the number of performance cores. | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:52:49 | atbenz_ | false | null | 0 | jhoid9n | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhoid9n/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhohmkw | https://github.com/vladmandic/automatic try this fork of auto1111 if you're having performance issues. This is much more up to date and actively maintained. | 3 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:48:07 | vialabo | false | null | 0 | jhohmkw | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yh5pv/was_able_to_run_13b_4bit_and_stable_diffusion_at/jhohmkw/ | false | 3 |
t1_jhoh5gj | Thank you for putting this out there!
I have been running all kinds of tests with LangChain and various versions of llama, alpaca and vicuna. They all seem to just shit the bed on items that are supposed to return a json response. I wonder if there is a simple middle man operation that we could inject that would forma... | 3 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:45:03 | monkmartinez | false | null | 0 | jhoh5gj | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yb0wx/langchain_vicuna_server_added_support_for/jhoh5gj/ | false | 3 |
t1_jhofkni | I can run SD and a 13B model on my 4GB GTX 1650 laptop with 16GB of ram. Of course, I'm running the 13B out of the 16GB of RAM and leaving the 4GB model on my 1650's VRAM. I can even 'render' at the same time. It helps to use tablets/phones on the network to access the web pages for both (I use KoboldCPP for GPT) bu... | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:34:58 | The_Choir_Invisible | false | null | 0 | jhofkni | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yh5pv/was_able_to_run_13b_4bit_and_stable_diffusion_at/jhofkni/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhofibd | Yes, I was aware of that. The weights were added after I posted. And more importantly, after u/ChoiceOwn555 posted. | 3 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:34:32 | rerri | false | null | 0 | jhofibd | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yax3h/wizardlm_finetuned_llama_7b_with_evolving/jhofibd/ | false | 3 |
t1_jhof5qf | Weights here: https://huggingface.co/victor123/WizardLM | 5 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:32:16 | monkmartinez | false | null | 0 | jhof5qf | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yax3h/wizardlm_finetuned_llama_7b_with_evolving/jhof5qf/ | false | 5 |
t1_jhof40a | https://huggingface.co/victor123/WizardLM - Look here? | 3 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:31:57 | monkmartinez | false | null | 0 | jhof40a | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yax3h/wizardlm_finetuned_llama_7b_with_evolving/jhof40a/ | false | 3 |
t1_jhoex6u | Inference can be done with oobabooga text-generation-webui, or with python, or you can convert the model to ggml and use llama.cpp | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:30:45 | faldore | false | null | 0 | jhoex6u | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12pwygc/red_pajama/jhoex6u/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhoecra | Thank you.
Once the dataset is available, do you think they will offer the code to utilize it? Or do you think I'll have to get meta llama from a repository or magnet link somewhere and download it that way? | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:27:07 | babayada | false | null | 0 | jhoecra | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12pwygc/red_pajama/jhoecra/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhoea8b | [https://arxiv.org/abs/2302.13971v1](https://arxiv.org/abs/2302.13971v1), paper discussing the training methods. I don't believe training code was released.
Take a look at alpaca, [https://github.com/tatsu-lab/stanford\_alpaca](https://github.com/tatsu-lab/stanford_alpaca), and alpaca Lora, [https://github.com/tloen/a... | 3 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:26:40 | wind_dude | false | null | 0 | jhoea8b | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ypnhh/llama_training_size/jhoea8b/ | false | 3 |
t1_jhoe5j1 | https://github.com/bublint/ue5-llama-lora | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:25:51 | disarmyouwitha | false | null | 0 | jhoe5j1 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ypnhh/llama_training_size/jhoe5j1/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhoc9tu | Any possibility of a windows version in the future? | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:13:58 | jd_3d | false | null | 0 | jhoc9tu | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yc8op/new_open_source_framework_and_nocode_gui_for/jhoc9tu/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhoc7ks | It's **absolutely** unusable! I'm not in any way suggesting anyone do this, and if you go back up the thread my entire point is that you want a lot more parallel execution than I have.
I'm personally running it so I can evaluate vs. 30B to see if it's worth the investment to get another GPU so I can run it in reasonab... | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:13:34 | the_quark | false | null | 0 | jhoc7ks | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12xr7h0/what_is_the_theoretical_best_consumer_grade_pc/jhoc7ks/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhobw0w | Thanks for the info.
Just a clarification: .04 tokens per second is 25 seconds per token, did I get this right? This is borderline unusable | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:11:32 | x54675788 | false | null | 0 | jhobw0w | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12xr7h0/what_is_the_theoretical_best_consumer_grade_pc/jhobw0w/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhobn2v | Entitled much? | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:09:57 | SpreadAccomplished16 | false | null | 0 | jhobn2v | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12x9k9g/i_build_a_completely_local_and_portable_autogpt/jhobn2v/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhob5co | Life is not that difficult:
https://github.com/nlpxucan/WizardLM | 5 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:06:47 | Away_Cat_7178 | false | null | 0 | jhob5co | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yax3h/wizardlm_finetuned_llama_7b_with_evolving/jhob5co/ | false | 5 |
t1_jhoap1w | Thanks a lot | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:03:51 | New-Variation1140 | false | null | 0 | jhoap1w | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12wxdz7/embeddings_for_search_alternatives/jhoap1w/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhoaobo | there is a link on the top end consumer cards is my understanding such X090 cards. NVlink? | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:03:43 | badnewshabit | false | null | 0 | jhoaobo | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ycnf0/i_have_two_4090s_is_there_any_way_to_work_a_model/jhoaobo/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhoao3a | For 65B 4bit? That sounds pretty good, thanks! | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:03:41 | ljubarskij | false | null | 0 | jhoao3a | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhoao3a/ | false | 2 |
t1_jhoabwp | It's not gonna be fun. I would strongly recommend using the 13B model as it brings most of the quality uplift from 7B but is much faster than 65B. 65B on CPU is dog slow, even with a very fast CPU. For larger models, GPU is the way to go. | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:01:26 | bitdotben | false | null | 0 | jhoabwp | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhoabwp/ | false | 1 |
t1_jhoa4x3 | I'm still waiting for parts to try 65b myself, but today thebloke made these changes:
https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/alpaca-lora-65B-GGML so if you use these then it depends on the version. | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T17:00:11 | ambient_temp_xeno | false | null | 0 | jhoa4x3 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jhoa4x3/ | false | 1 |
t1_jho9u4c | are you running a 4bit/int4 model? I find it runs fastest. I get about 6 tokens per second on my 3090 on llama30b int4. Also does it look like it's actually loading onto your gpus? | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T16:58:16 | i_wayyy_over_think | false | null | 0 | jho9u4c | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ycnf0/i_have_two_4090s_is_there_any_way_to_work_a_model/jho9u4c/ | false | 1 |
t1_jho8uwg | Running on an i5 raptor lake I got about 1 token a second. 64GB is plenty, 48GB might be enough but I can’t remember the exact usage.
The output was strange, there might have been an issue with the quantized 65B model I was using. | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T16:52:06 | atbenz_ | false | null | 0 | jho8uwg | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jho8uwg/ | false | 2 |
t1_jho8o0d | Thanks! How many tokens per second did you get on your setup? | 8 | 0 | 2023-04-25T16:50:54 | ljubarskij | false | null | 0 | jho8o0d | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jho8o0d/ | false | 8 |
t1_jho7kz8 | Not sure if the power requirements scale proportionally, but from trying Alpaca-30B on a 13600K using about 24 gigabytes of RAM, it does seem that a 13900K system with 64GB RAM would be sufficient for the 65B version. The tokens per second could be a little slow though, even with the i9-13900K. | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T16:43:54 | spectrachrome | false | null | 0 | jho7kz8 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ynhoc/65b_4bit_on_13900k/jho7kz8/ | false | 2 |
t1_jho71kz | This video actually talks about that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2DgdsE86ts | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T16:40:23 | The_frozen_one | false | null | 0 | jho71kz | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12xcjuu/for_those_who_have_tried_how_does_bloom176b_feel/jho71kz/ | false | 1 |
t1_jho6dns | they are still training it, it's not ready.
[https://www.together.xyz/blog/redpajama-training-progress](https://www.together.xyz/blog/redpajama-training-progress) | 2 | 0 | 2023-04-25T16:36:03 | faldore | false | null | 0 | jho6dns | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12pwygc/red_pajama/jho6dns/ | false | 2 |
t1_jho5atw | Are they 4 1030s? | 6 | 0 | 2023-04-25T16:29:04 | recentlyquitsmoking2 | false | null | 0 | jho5atw | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12ycnf0/i_have_two_4090s_is_there_any_way_to_work_a_model/jho5atw/ | false | 6 |
t1_jho58oh | I do have both versions on my machine, I’m wondering if I’m thinking I’m running the CPU version when I’m really not. I’m going to confirm | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T16:28:40 | AemonAlgizVideos | false | null | 0 | jho58oh | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12xdsi9/what_is_the_best_llama_i_can_run_on_my_machine/jho58oh/ | false | 1 |
t1_jho55vb | Worth Documenting for sure! Those speeds seem much better than what most people expect. | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T16:28:10 | MammothInvestment | false | null | 0 | jho55vb | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12xdsi9/what_is_the_best_llama_i_can_run_on_my_machine/jho55vb/ | false | 1 |
t1_jho4rox | Its back up now. | 4 | 0 | 2023-04-25T16:25:40 | AprilDoll | false | null | 0 | jho4rox | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yax3h/wizardlm_finetuned_llama_7b_with_evolving/jho4rox/ | false | 4 |
t1_jho4lly | Sorry for the noob question...
I would like to get a local instance of this running on a Linux box.
Could someone point me to tutorials to help me do so? | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T16:24:35 | babayada | false | null | 0 | jho4lly | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12pwygc/red_pajama/jho4lly/ | false | 1 |
t1_jho49w3 | So they could later sue and then make a deal to buy out the company for pennies on the dollar. | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T16:22:37 | randomqhacker | false | null | 0 | jho49w3 | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yax3h/wizardlm_finetuned_llama_7b_with_evolving/jho49w3/ | false | 1 |
t1_jho47lq | [deleted] | 1 | 0 | 2023-04-25T16:22:14 | [deleted] | true | null | 0 | jho47lq | false | /r/LocalLLaMA/comments/12yax3h/wizardlm_finetuned_llama_7b_with_evolving/jho47lq/ | false | 1 |
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