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And there was a school on this small, small mound, you know, kind of a small hill. But the-- probably the, the most important feature was that it was a boarding school, and it was incredibly affordable-
agent: Welcome to How I Built This, a show about innovators, entrepreneurs, idealists, and the stories behind the movements they built. I'm Guy Raz, and on the show today, how Jensen Huang went from making graphics chips for gamers to powering the AI revolution and building the biggest company in the world. [gentle mus...
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Yeah
customer: And there weren't that many boarding schools in America that would take international students, but, uh, somehow Oneida Baptist Institute in Kentucky, Clay County, Kentucky, little tiny town, no stoplight. agent: Hmm. customer: And there was a school on this small, small mound, you know, kind of a small hill....
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... because my parents, you know, didn't have much money, and, and so we went there, and every kid that lived there had to work, and so they had no custodians. And so we were, you know, we were-- we, uh, took care of ourselves, and my job was to clean the bathrooms.
agent: Hmm. customer: And there was a school on this small, small mound, you know, kind of a small hill. But the-- probably the, the most important feature was that it was a boarding school, and it was incredibly affordable- agent: Yeah
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Wow.
customer: And there was a school on this small, small mound, you know, kind of a small hill. But the-- probably the, the most important feature was that it was a boarding school, and it was incredibly affordable- agent: Yeah customer: ... because my parents, you know, didn't have much money, and, and so we went there, ...
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And apparently, I was the youngest kid that ever went there. I still am, I think.
agent: Yeah customer: ... because my parents, you know, didn't have much money, and, and so we went there, and every kid that lived there had to work, and so they had no custodians. And so we were, you know, we were-- we, uh, took care of ourselves, and my job was to clean the bathrooms. agent: Wow.
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'Cause you were 10.
customer: ... because my parents, you know, didn't have much money, and, and so we went there, and every kid that lived there had to work, and so they had no custodians. And so we were, you know, we were-- we, uh, took care of ourselves, and my job was to clean the bathrooms. agent: Wow. customer: And apparently, I was...
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I was nine when I went there.
agent: Wow. customer: And apparently, I was the youngest kid that ever went there. I still am, I think. agent: 'Cause you were 10.
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You were nine.
customer: And apparently, I was the youngest kid that ever went there. I still am, I think. agent: 'Cause you were 10. customer: I was nine when I went there.
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Yeah. I- I've got great memories of it. I loved the place. It was a tough school because they invited kids from all walks of life.
agent: 'Cause you were 10. customer: I was nine when I went there. agent: You were nine.
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Yeah.
customer: I was nine when I went there. agent: You were nine. customer: Yeah. I- I've got great memories of it. I loved the place. It was a tough school because they invited kids from all walks of life.
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And so, you know, I was nine, and my roommate was 16, and-
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[laughs]
customer: Yeah. I- I've got great memories of it. I loved the place. It was a tough school because they invited kids from all walks of life. agent: Yeah. customer: And so, you know, I was nine, and my roommate was 16, and-
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... and so none of the closet had doors and none of the drawers because everything had to be out in the open. You just don't know what the kids are gonna have.
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Yeah.
customer: And so, you know, I was nine, and my roommate was 16, and- agent: [laughs] customer: ... and so none of the closet had doors and none of the drawers because everything had to be out in the open. You just don't know what the kids are gonna have.
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And so welcome to America.
agent: [laughs] customer: ... and so none of the closet had doors and none of the drawers because everything had to be out in the open. You just don't know what the kids are gonna have. agent: Yeah.
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Yeah, right. Yeah.
customer: ... and so none of the closet had doors and none of the drawers because everything had to be out in the open. You just don't know what the kids are gonna have. agent: Yeah. customer: And so welcome to America.
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But I, but I loved it. It was incredible. I was on the swim team and the soccer team, and then afterwards, the, the coach would take you out to, uh, give you a treat. And, um, I remember recording-- We used to record a tape-
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Mm-hmm
customer: And so welcome to America. agent: Yeah, right. Yeah. customer: But I, but I loved it. It was incredible. I was on the swim team and the soccer team, and then afterwards, the, the coach would take you out to, uh, give you a treat. And, um, I remember recording-- We used to record a tape-
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... and we would send it back to our parents. You know, we didn't-- Long distance phone calls cost too much money, and so-
agent: Yeah, right. Yeah. customer: But I, but I loved it. It was incredible. I was on the swim team and the soccer team, and then afterwards, the, the coach would take you out to, uh, give you a treat. And, um, I remember recording-- We used to record a tape- agent: Mm-hmm
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Yeah
customer: But I, but I loved it. It was incredible. I was on the swim team and the soccer team, and then afterwards, the, the coach would take you out to, uh, give you a treat. And, um, I remember recording-- We used to record a tape- agent: Mm-hmm customer: ... and we would send it back to our parents. You know, we di...
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... we're-- we never spoke to them live or until they came to United States almost two years later. And so we would record, you know, what happened this last month. And, uh, I remember, I remember telling them that after the swim meet, the coach took us to this incredible restaurant, and lights everywhere is, is like f...
agent: Mm-hmm customer: ... and we would send it back to our parents. You know, we didn't-- Long distance phone calls cost too much money, and so- agent: Yeah
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[laughs]
customer: ... and we would send it back to our parents. You know, we didn't-- Long distance phone calls cost too much money, and so- agent: Yeah customer: ... we're-- we never spoke to them live or until they came to United States almost two years later. And so we would record, you know, what happened this last month. ...
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... it was McDonald's. [laughs]
agent: Yeah customer: ... we're-- we never spoke to them live or until they came to United States almost two years later. And so we would record, you know, what happened this last month. And, uh, I remember, I remember telling them that after the swim meet, the coach took us to this incredible restaurant, and lights ev...
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It's McDonald's, yeah, which was magical.
customer: ... we're-- we never spoke to them live or until they came to United States almost two years later. And so we would record, you know, what happened this last month. And, uh, I remember, I remember telling them that after the swim meet, the coach took us to this incredible restaurant, and lights everywhere is,...
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Yeah, incredible.
agent: [laughs] customer: ... it was McDonald's. [laughs] agent: It's McDonald's, yeah, which was magical.
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Yeah.
customer: ... it was McDonald's. [laughs] agent: It's McDonald's, yeah, which was magical. customer: Yeah, incredible.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Um, you eventually reunite with your family in Poland-
customer: Yeah, incredible. agent: Yeah. customer: Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah
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... which is where your dad settles.
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Yeah.
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And you grew up there, and you went on to-- This is the early-- late '70s, early '80s. You go to Oregon State, and this is like the beginning of what would become the computer revolution. You are studying electrical engineering 'cause I don't think they had a computer science program-
customer: Yeah agent: ... which is where your dad settles. customer: Yeah.
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No
agent: ... which is where your dad settles. customer: Yeah. agent: And you grew up there, and you went on to-- This is the early-- late '70s, early '80s. You go to Oregon State, and this is like the beginning of what would become the computer revolution. You are studying electrical engineering 'cause I don't think they...
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... there at the time. And that's also where you would meet the person who would become your wife.
customer: Yeah. agent: And you grew up there, and you went on to-- This is the early-- late '70s, early '80s. You go to Oregon State, and this is like the beginning of what would become the computer revolution. You are studying electrical engineering 'cause I don't think they had a computer science program- customer: N...
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Yeah. So when I was in high school, I wasn't very outgoing, and so I didn't have that many friends. All of my best friends were in two clubs. One club was the, uh, math club, and then the other club was the computer club.
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All of my best friends were in two clubs. One club was the, uh, math club, and then the other club was the computer club.
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customer: No agent: ... there at the time. And that's also where you would meet the person who would become your wife. customer: Yeah. So when I was in high school, I wasn't very outgoing, and so I didn't have that many friends. All of my best friends were in two clubs. One club was the, uh, math club, and then the oth...
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It was the same, you know, four kids.
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The same guys, yeah.
customer: Yeah. So when I was in high school, I wasn't very outgoing, and so I didn't have that many friends. All of my best friends were in two clubs. One club was the, uh, math club, and then the other club was the computer club. agent: Nice. customer: It was the same, you know, four kids.
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The same four kids.
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Yeah. And my best friend in high school, I, I asked him, you know, where he was going to college, and he said Oregon State. And he asked me where I was going to college, and never crossed my mind to go anywhere out of town for, you know, the idea of going to a great university, it never crossed my mind. And so he said ...
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It was a big s- big class. And there were three girls, you know. And so I noticed Lori is, is a super pretty girl, and, um, I was probably the youngest kid in class then as well. I skipped two grades in school. So, uh, we were in lab together, and I found a way to arrange myself into the same lab as her, same group as ...
agent: Right. customer: Yeah. And my best friend in high school, I, I asked him, you know, where he was going to college, and he said Oregon State. And he asked me where I was going to college, and never crossed my mind to go anywhere out of town for, you know, the idea of going to a great university, it never crossed ...
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customer: Yeah. And my best friend in high school, I, I asked him, you know, where he was going to college, and he said Oregon State. And he asked me where I was going to college, and never crossed my mind to go anywhere out of town for, you know, the idea of going to a great university, it never crossed my mind. And s...
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... and so we be- became lab partners, and here we are. [laughs]
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Um, both of you, after you graduate, move to California. This is like nineteen eighty-four-ish, I think, which is the center of the revolution, right? I mean, your, you-- your first job was with AMD.
customer: It was a big s- big class. And there were three girls, you know. And so I noticed Lori is, is a super pretty girl, and, um, I was probably the youngest kid in class then as well. I skipped two grades in school. So, uh, we were in lab together, and I found a way to arrange myself into the same lab as her, same...
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Yeah.
agent: Mm-hmm customer: ... and so we be- became lab partners, and here we are. [laughs] agent: Um, both of you, after you graduate, move to California. This is like nineteen eighty-four-ish, I think, which is the center of the revolution, right? I mean, your, you-- your first job was with AMD.
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And I think she also had a job.
customer: ... and so we be- became lab partners, and here we are. [laughs] agent: Um, both of you, after you graduate, move to California. This is like nineteen eighty-four-ish, I think, which is the center of the revolution, right? I mean, your, you-- your first job was with AMD. customer: Yeah.
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Silicon Graphics.
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Silicon Graphics.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. What did it look like to design computer chips in nineteen eighty-four? I mean, was it CAD? Was it-- What did that look-- What did that actually physically entail?
customer: Silicon Graphics. agent: Silicon Graphics. customer: Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, at the time, I was the, the last generation of chip designers that did it by hand. And the first generation of chip designers that used software-
agent: Silicon Graphics. customer: Yeah. agent: Yeah. What did it look like to design computer chips in nineteen eighty-four? I mean, was it CAD? Was it-- What did that look-- What did that actually physically entail?
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customer: Yeah. agent: Yeah. What did it look like to design computer chips in nineteen eighty-four? I mean, was it CAD? Was it-- What did that look-- What did that actually physically entail? customer: Yeah. Well, at the time, I was the, the last generation of chip designers that did it by hand. And the first generati...
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... to design chips that ran into computers, that ran software. And so it was an incredible time. You know, it's kind of to put in perspective, at the time, the chip I was working on had a few thousand transistors, and now, uh, we design chips that are 200 billion-
agent: Yeah. What did it look like to design computer chips in nineteen eighty-four? I mean, was it CAD? Was it-- What did that look-- What did that actually physically entail? customer: Yeah. Well, at the time, I was the, the last generation of chip designers that did it by hand. And the first generation of chip desig...
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customer: Yeah. Well, at the time, I was the, the last generation of chip designers that did it by hand. And the first generation of chip designers that used software- agent: Mm-hmm customer: ... to design chips that ran into computers, that ran software. And so it was an incredible time. You know, it's kind of to put ...
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... a trillion transistors.
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Insane.
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Yeah. So the scale of the problems that, that we work on now compared to where we started is incredible. But anyhow, my office mate went off to work for a startup company called LSI Logic, and she called me and said, "Hey, you know, um, this is really quite a special company. You ought to come take a look." And so I we...
agent: That's- customer: ... a trillion transistors. agent: Insane.
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customer: ... a trillion transistors. agent: Insane. customer: Yeah. So the scale of the problems that, that we work on now compared to where we started is incredible. But anyhow, my office mate went off to work for a startup company called LSI Logic, and she called me and said, "Hey, you know, um, this is really quite...
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... the way of designing chips. And so I joined them. I guess I was, you know, probably employee number one- 150 or 170 or something like that.
agent: Insane. customer: Yeah. So the scale of the problems that, that we work on now compared to where we started is incredible. But anyhow, my office mate went off to work for a startup company called LSI Logic, and she called me and said, "Hey, you know, um, this is really quite a special company. You ought to come ...
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And you were, like, 22 probably at the time.
customer: Yeah. So the scale of the problems that, that we work on now compared to where we started is incredible. But anyhow, my office mate went off to work for a startup company called LSI Logic, and she called me and said, "Hey, you know, um, this is really quite a special company. You ought to come take a look." A...
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Yeah.
agent: Mm-hmm customer: ... the way of designing chips. And so I joined them. I guess I was, you know, probably employee number one- 150 or 170 or something like that. agent: And you were, like, 22 probably at the time.
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Yeah.
customer: ... the way of designing chips. And so I joined them. I guess I was, you know, probably employee number one- 150 or 170 or something like that. agent: And you were, like, 22 probably at the time. customer: Yeah.
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I was just a kid. I was just a kid, yeah.
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And from what I've, uh, like from what I've read, I mean, they gave you a lot of responsibility. I mean, they, they... I mean, you were eventually, you would be in charge of tooling, right? Like, that was sort of-
customer: Yeah. agent: Yeah. customer: I was just a kid. I was just a kid, yeah.
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Yeah
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... what you oversaw.
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Well, uh, the way LSI Logic's business worked is they had all the technology, the tools, and they made the chips, but they would make it for somebody else who created computers. And so some microsystems and silicon graphics and incredible companies at the time in Silicon Valley who were systems companies, but they need...
agent: And from what I've, uh, like from what I've read, I mean, they gave you a lot of responsibility. I mean, they, they... I mean, you were eventually, you would be in charge of tooling, right? Like, that was sort of- customer: Yeah agent: ... what you oversaw.
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Hmm.
customer: Yeah agent: ... what you oversaw. customer: Well, uh, the way LSI Logic's business worked is they had all the technology, the tools, and they made the chips, but they would make it for somebody else who created computers. And so some microsystems and silicon graphics and incredible companies at the time in Si...
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And, uh, I met some incredible people.
agent: ... what you oversaw. customer: Well, uh, the way LSI Logic's business worked is they had all the technology, the tools, and they made the chips, but they would make it for somebody else who created computers. And so some microsystems and silicon graphics and incredible companies at the time in Silicon Valley wh...
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I mean, you were-- this was sort of like the PC boom, the clone wars. I mean, there was a lot of demand for what LSI was producing, right? I mean, it was an exciting time-
customer: Well, uh, the way LSI Logic's business worked is they had all the technology, the tools, and they made the chips, but they would make it for somebody else who created computers. And so some microsystems and silicon graphics and incredible companies at the time in Silicon Valley who were systems companies, but...
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Yeah
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... to be here, to be young, and to watch, you know, probably the next most exciting time what happened with-
customer: And, uh, I met some incredible people. agent: I mean, you were-- this was sort of like the PC boom, the clone wars. I mean, there was a lot of demand for what LSI was producing, right? I mean, it was an exciting time- customer: Yeah
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Yeah
agent: I mean, you were-- this was sort of like the PC boom, the clone wars. I mean, there was a lot of demand for what LSI was producing, right? I mean, it was an exciting time- customer: Yeah agent: ... to be here, to be young, and to watch, you know, probably the next most exciting time what happened with-
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... the internet boom, right? I mean-
customer: Yeah agent: ... to be here, to be young, and to watch, you know, probably the next most exciting time what happened with- customer: Yeah
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Well, LSI Logic was, was an extraordinary company because it happened at precisely the time, exactly as you're saying, Guy, that many computers, many supercomputers, supercomputers, all of those types of giant systems were being created by companies like Digital or... And then the PC revolution started. And so I was re...
agent: ... to be here, to be young, and to watch, you know, probably the next most exciting time what happened with- customer: Yeah agent: ... the internet boom, right? I mean-
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Yeah
customer: Yeah agent: ... the internet boom, right? I mean- customer: Well, LSI Logic was, was an extraordinary company because it happened at precisely the time, exactly as you're saying, Guy, that many computers, many supercomputers, supercomputers, all of those types of giant systems were being created by companies ...
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... great technology, bad strategy, moderate technology, excellent strategy. I saw it all. It was, uh, quite an incredible thing. And then, and of course, I met Chris and Curtis.
agent: ... the internet boom, right? I mean- customer: Well, LSI Logic was, was an extraordinary company because it happened at precisely the time, exactly as you're saying, Guy, that many computers, many supercomputers, supercomputers, all of those types of giant systems were being created by companies like Digital or...
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Those people, Curtis Priem-
customer: Well, LSI Logic was, was an extraordinary company because it happened at precisely the time, exactly as you're saying, Guy, that many computers, many supercomputers, supercomputers, all of those types of giant systems were being created by companies like Digital or... And then the PC revolution started. And s...
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Yeah
agent: Yeah customer: ... great technology, bad strategy, moderate technology, excellent strategy. I saw it all. It was, uh, quite an incredible thing. And then, and of course, I met Chris and Curtis. agent: Those people, Curtis Priem-
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... and Chris Malachowsky-
customer: ... great technology, bad strategy, moderate technology, excellent strategy. I saw it all. It was, uh, quite an incredible thing. And then, and of course, I met Chris and Curtis. agent: Those people, Curtis Priem- customer: Yeah
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And Chris Malachowsky, yeah
agent: Those people, Curtis Priem- customer: Yeah agent: ... and Chris Malachowsky-
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... uh, were at Sun. These-- the story is that these guys wanted to create at Sun Microsystems a, a chip for specifically-
customer: Yeah agent: ... and Chris Malachowsky- customer: And Chris Malachowsky, yeah
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For computer graphics
agent: ... and Chris Malachowsky- customer: And Chris Malachowsky, yeah agent: ... uh, were at Sun. These-- the story is that these guys wanted to create at Sun Microsystems a, a chip for specifically-
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... for games, for computer graphics-
customer: And Chris Malachowsky, yeah agent: ... uh, were at Sun. These-- the story is that these guys wanted to create at Sun Microsystems a, a chip for specifically- customer: For computer graphics
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Yeah
agent: ... uh, were at Sun. These-- the story is that these guys wanted to create at Sun Microsystems a, a chip for specifically- customer: For computer graphics agent: ... for games, for computer graphics-
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... for, for, for games and were rebuffed. And so as often is the case, they decided to start their own company.
customer: For computer graphics agent: ... for games, for computer graphics- customer: Yeah
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Yeah.
agent: ... for games, for computer graphics- customer: Yeah agent: ... for, for, for games and were rebuffed. And so as often is the case, they decided to start their own company.
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And they approached you, and they wanted you to work with them.
customer: Yeah agent: ... for, for, for games and were rebuffed. And so as often is the case, they decided to start their own company. customer: Yeah.
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Mm-hmm.
agent: ... for, for, for games and were rebuffed. And so as often is the case, they decided to start their own company. customer: Yeah. agent: And they approached you, and they wanted you to work with them.
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And this is around 1992, '93. And from what I understand, I mean, you had a great job. You were well-paid. You were well on the path to upper management. Like, it-- this could have been a great, stable career. You already had, uh, I think at least one kid at the time.
customer: Yeah. agent: And they approached you, and they wanted you to work with them. customer: Mm-hmm.
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Both, yeah. Spencer and Madison, yeah.
agent: And they approached you, and they wanted you to work with them. customer: Mm-hmm. agent: And this is around 1992, '93. And from what I understand, I mean, you had a great job. You were well-paid. You were well on the path to upper management. Like, it-- this could have been a great, stable career. You already ha...
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And your wife was looking after the kids, so-
customer: Mm-hmm. agent: And this is around 1992, '93. And from what I understand, I mean, you had a great job. You were well-paid. You were well on the path to upper management. Like, it-- this could have been a great, stable career. You already had, uh, I think at least one kid at the time. customer: Both, yeah. Spen...
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Mm-hmm
agent: And this is around 1992, '93. And from what I understand, I mean, you had a great job. You were well-paid. You were well on the path to upper management. Like, it-- this could have been a great, stable career. You already had, uh, I think at least one kid at the time. customer: Both, yeah. Spencer and Madison, y...
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... everyone depended on your salary. You know-
customer: Both, yeah. Spencer and Madison, yeah. agent: And your wife was looking after the kids, so- customer: Mm-hmm
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And I think we had a whopping thirty thousand dollars in the bank.
agent: And your wife was looking after the kids, so- customer: Mm-hmm agent: ... everyone depended on your salary. You know-
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Um, when they initially approached you, I mean, did you think that, "I'm not gonna take that risk. I'm not gonna leave this amazing job"?
customer: Mm-hmm agent: ... everyone depended on your salary. You know- customer: And I think we had a whopping thirty thousand dollars in the bank.
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Yeah, I mean, it-- they, um, but they, they didn't give up asking me.
agent: ... everyone depended on your salary. You know- customer: And I think we had a whopping thirty thousand dollars in the bank. agent: Um, when they initially approached you, I mean, did you think that, "I'm not gonna take that risk. I'm not gonna leave this amazing job"?
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'Cause they wanted you to run their-- this business that they had an idea for.
customer: And I think we had a whopping thirty thousand dollars in the bank. agent: Um, when they initially approached you, I mean, did you think that, "I'm not gonna take that risk. I'm not gonna leave this amazing job"? customer: Yeah, I mean, it-- they, um, but they, they didn't give up asking me.
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