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2. 2. alan6302 09:32 PM 5/13/13 |
Is this article hinting that Nibiru is affecting the planets? The blue planet is due to show in June. |
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3. 3. jafrates in reply to alan6302 10:37 PM 5/13/13 |
Imaginary things don't show. |
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4. 4. Rev.Corvette 03:54 AM 5/14/13 |
I think they are talking about tectonic activity...molten core, hot mantle and the overlapping plates of outer crust sliding and grinding under themselves causing "Saturn Quakes" and volcanoes are seismic action is causing Saturn's insides (as well as her beautiful rings)to slide around a little. |
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5. 5. Rev.Corvette 03:59 AM 5/14/13 |
Please excuse my grammar, what I meant to say is: I think they are talking about tectonic activity...molten core, hot mantle and the overlapping plates of outer crust sliding and grinding under themselves causing "Saturn Quakes" and volcanoes. I think this seismic action is causing Saturn's insides (as well as her ... |
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6. 6. tharter in reply to Rev.Corvette 10:03 AM 5/14/13 |
Well, gas giants don't have any solid surface at all, and thus no plate tectonics in the way Earth does. Of course giant planets have both primordial and radioactive sources of interior heat, so there is convection, which would likely cause vibrations, etc. Anyway, I don't know a lot of details about giant planet s... |
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7. 7. sault 10:39 AM 5/14/13 |
It is theorized that Saturn has a thick layer of metallic hydrogen surrounding a rocky core. While plate techtonics of anything we would recognize from our experiences on Earth are probably not occurring, maybe the sloshing is caused by a relatively recent impact. A sizeable comet, asteroid or even moon that was fl... |
Or what about the combined gravitational effects of Saturn's moons? Is there any correlation between the frequency of the waves in the ring and the resonant orbital periods that moons in systems like these tend to fall into? |
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8. 8. JPGumby 10:49 AM 5/14/13 |
From one of the links: |
Cornell University |
Authors: M. M. Hedman, P. D. Nicholson |
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Abstract: Saturn's C ring contains multiple spiral patterns that appear to be density waves driven by periodic gravitational perturbations. In other parts of Saturn's rings, such waves are generated by Lindblad resonances with Saturn's various moons, but most of the wave-like C-ring features are not situated near a... |
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9. 9. Leroy in reply to alan6302 11:28 AM 5/14/13 |
Hehe... yeah I think the article is 'hinting' that Nibirwoo is inside of Saturn making it wiggle. |
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10. 10. VK 02:16 PM 5/14/13 |
Now imagine if we could find a way to move an adequate number of those ice cubes out of their orbit and direct them to planet Mars. |
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11. 11. HubertB 02:57 PM 5/14/13 |
The center of the Earth has not cooled down in four billion years. The Earth has plate tectonics. Why could not Saturn perhaps have a larger central core which takes longer to cool down. Then it could have plates of hardened rock floating on molten lava. If the current theory does not describe observations, it is t... |
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12. 12. tharter in reply to HubertB 04:23 PM 5/14/13 |
The conditions inside Saturn are just VERY different from terrestrial conditions. It is thought there is a relatively small rock and presumably iron core, but that would be DEEPLY buried below layers of metallic hydrogen. Densities and pressures are exceedingly high and materials behave far differently than on Eart... |
I guess I'm not sure what 'new theory' is needed, it sounded like the density waves pretty well match with the basic existing theory, modulo some so-far unexplained details. Its great to come up with new theories, but most existing ones can survive a minor inconsistency or two, especially when they involve conditio... |
In any case, the point of a new theory would be to provide explanations for more facts than the old theory. If your's does that, then that's good! You didn't suggest any possible phenomenon to look for that would validate it though, so presumably these are early days in the 'Kronotectonics' theory ;) |
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13. 13. alan borky in reply to jafrates 05:37 PM 5/14/13 |
jafrates if it's supposedly go'n'o show in June then that's at least scientifically testable unlike much that's said of dark matter dark energy etc. |
Wouldn't it therefore be both more scientific AND rational to wait until June and then sniggeringly assert it's imaginary? |
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14. 14. Happy Hal 12:19 AM 5/15/13 |
Perhaps in the distant past, there were three giant planets: Saturn, Jupiter, and the Asteroid belt? |
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15. 15. tharter in reply to Happy Hal 09:09 AM 5/15/13 |
The asteroid belt never made it to planet status, and in any case only contains about 1/100th of the mass of the Earth, not enough to count as a planet even if it were all piled in one place. Vesta and Ceres are both large enough to have some planet-like characteristics, and would have been called 'planetesimals' 4... |
The accepted theory is that Jupiter's gravitational influence prevented the formation of a planet in the region of the belt by stabilizing orbits in resonance and ejecting other material that likely would have collided with it. In theory Jupiter has since moved outward somewhat. In fact the whole outer solar system... |
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16. 16. lyle918 03:39 PM 5/17/13 |
Why is Saturn so light? |
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17. 17. Dyonin Sergey 03:41 PM 5/19/13 |
It's the fluctuations of Saturn magnetic field, that makes rings to shake. Saturn rings consist of diamagnetic stuff - mainly ice and a bit of silicates which are keeping it in eqvidistance plane between magnetic poles of the planet (magnetic field repulse diamagnetics) that's why these rings are so abnormally thin... |
Other question - what makes magnetic field of Saturn to fluctuate? The reasons may be both - internal and external ones. |
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18. 18. tharter in reply to lyle918 04:32 PM 5/19/13 |
Well, its not so much LIGHT as it is very low density. Its largely hydrogen, which is low density. |
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