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Is there code-block-enabled chat out there for programming teams? | bcx: How does campfire handle this? -- it seems like something the 37signals people would have put time into. |
What's with all the trivial link spam? | jasonkester: If you think about how you'd build a script to spam Hacker News, it's easy to see what's going on here. - Step one is getting your bot to reliably create accounts.
- Step two is getting it to create accounts and post links.
- Step three is feeding it a list of 5000 of your sites.
This bot appears to be at step two. |
We just launched PleaseRT.me, a Twitter-app, please send feedback | marketer: What problem are you trying to solve exactly? |
Review my latest web app - BoostCam | vaksel: not sure if I like that logo, doesn't really work with the niche you are in. You need to spice it up...I dunno, maybe replace one of the Os with a camera.can't say anything about the actual process, since the camera screen doesn't load for me |
Worthwhile hacker events in the Bay Area for March/April 2009? | jwilliams: Actual links for the curious:
http://www.meetup.com/
http://www.sdforum.com/
http://sf.garysguide.org/Also been sifting through:
http://www.churchillclub.org/index.jsp
http://www.eventbrite.com/ |
Worthwhile hacker events in the Bay Area for March/April 2009? | rms: http://superhappydevhouse.org/ is fun |
Should I use Amazon S3? | mikeyur: I don't know if you can get them to upload to a WebDAV server, but if you can then I'd recommend http://bingodisk.comI pay $29/yr for 15GB space and unmetered bandwidth. |
We just launched PleaseRT.me, a Twitter-app, please send feedback | thorax: (Putting my normal user hat on here. I'm purposely preventing myself from trying to think hard on the purpose of your site.)"I" don't follow what your site does, even after I see the example. Something to do with retweets, which I thought was just sending someone else's tweet to my friends. But I enter some text and submit, nothing seems to happen. I alt-tab away and come back and a username/password field has appeared, with an empty text box and "60" number. I don't get it.I give up, feeling dumb, and leave the site, to do whatever it was I was doing before. |
We just launched PleaseRT.me, a Twitter-app, please send feedback | jasonkester: So it's a text box that creates links that, when clicked, send you over to twitter where you can click submit to turn them into spam?That suggests two groups of users: Spammers to post links, and, uh... stooges to click links. I can see the motivation for the spammers. What exactly is the motivation for people to come to this site and click links?It just doesn't make any sense at all. |
We just launched PleaseRT.me, a Twitter-app, please send feedback | inklesspen: I would pay money for a button which, when I saw someone retweeting, I could press it and that person would experience an electro-convulsive shock.I think the existence of your app makes the world a worse place. Please take it down. |
We just launched PleaseRT.me, a Twitter-app, please send feedback | sh1mmer: pleaseRT.com is too long. What about rt.me ? It's available and then your URLs would be a lot shorter. |
We just launched PleaseRT.me, a Twitter-app, please send feedback | sh1mmer: I love the design it's great. |
comments automatically killed? | SwellJoe: You see them because you've selected "showdead" on your profile page. They are dead because the person exhibited a lack of understanding of the mores of the community, and either posted spam, or egregiously violated common courtesy in comments.Sometimes, I imagine, users may get auto killed prematurely; if their first submission appears to be obvious spam, for example. But, I wouldn't think that would happen often. |
We just launched PleaseRT.me, a Twitter-app, please send feedback | vaksel: who else thought that this was going to be a rate my picture type site? |
I want to learn iPhone development, where to start? | raamdev: Stanford iPhone Application Programming course materials here:http://www.stanford.edu/class/cs193p/cgi-bin/index.php |
We just launched PleaseRT.me, a Twitter-app, please send feedback | auston: I'd love twitterific integration.Umm maybe you could create a dashboard widget (or desktop gadget for vista) - then I'd consider heavy use. Until then I think I will only use it when I REALLY want people to RT something. |
Worthwhile hacker events in the Bay Area for March/April 2009? | callmeed: There's always the web 2.0 expo ... not purely hackerish, of course but there could be some worthwhile speakers and/or connections to be made
http://www.web2expo.com/webexsf2009 |
Worthwhile hacker events in the Bay Area for March/April 2009? | skmurphy: Bootstrappers Breakfast Mar 13, 17, 27; Apr 3, 10, 21, 24 http://www.bootstrappersbreakfast.com/Fibre High: rent a cube for a month as home base http://www.fiberhigh.com/Hackers & Founders Mar 25 http://www.hackersandfounders.com/New Tech Meetup Apr 7 http://www.meetup.com/svnewtech/Plug & Play: rent a cube for a month as home base http://www.plugandplaytechcenter.com/SDForum Cloud & SOA SIG Mar-24 http://www.sdforum.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=Page.viewPage...Silicon Valley Startup Entrepreneurs (many events) http://www.svase.orgWorkit: another good calendar http://www.workit.com/ |
Worthwhile hacker events in the Bay Area for March/April 2009? | thomaspaine: I hate to shamelessly self-promote, but I've actually been working on an event search web app: http://www.gocerebro.comIt still has a long way to go (right now only about 10 other people know about this), but hopefully it helps. Any feedback would be welcome as well. |
Is there code-block-enabled chat out there for programming teams? | avinashv: I still prefer Gist (gist.github.com) for things like this--I like the fact that the code sticks around. |
Worthwhile hacker events in the Bay Area for March/April 2009? | fizx: Pivotal Labs does quality (and catered) lunch tech talks every Wednesday. They tend to be web/ruby-centric.Update/Edit:
NoiseBridge has weekly meetups in machine learning, synthetic biology, and other subjects. https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/NoiseBridge |
Worthwhile hacker events in the Bay Area for March/April 2009? | aristus: Every Wednesday we have the Open Hacker House in San Francisco from 8am to 6pm: http://archivd.com/open-hacker-house |
comments automatically killed? | blasdel: Check out this user's threads page with showdead on: http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=wernerv0nbraun -- all of their comments get deleted.If the site has a honeypot system that shows the autodeleted comments only to the user that made them, that's clever, if a little much.If it just instantly deletes them, that's lame, it'd be better just to ban him.If this is being done by a moderator manually, that's fucking awful, and the moderator should be banned. |
Worthwhile hacker events in the Bay Area for March/April 2009? | dfield: A really fun one that will be going on soon is Startup Weekend. Here's the URL: http://sf2.startupweekend.com/. It's from April 3rd to 5th. |
Should I use Amazon S3? | rbranson: S3 isn't about cheap, S3 is about reliable and scalable. Yes, it's inexpensive, compared to how complicated and expensive it would be to setup multi-site failover and support nearly unlimited scaling. |
Are we in trouble? | finoleo: http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/20744 do not riot |
Should I use Amazon S3? | cloudberryman01: If you are on Windows try CloudBerry Explorer for Amazon S3. It makes managing files in S3 EASY http://cloudberrylab.com/ It supports most of the Amazon S3and CloudFront features and It is a FREEWARE |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | palsecam: (Web) design is hard. For us programmers, it's a pain in the ass, and
when it comes to create UI elements for a (web) app, we are stuck with two
choices:1. create something very basic, or2. spend countless hours searching the web for Photoshop tutorials on how to create a bubble or depth
effect, then spend even-more-countless hours fighting with Photoshop to implement it, and finally,
maybe adapt the image with some external tools to make it be a CSS sprite or whatever)Yes, 1. is not necessary a bad thing (HN is a good example :-)), but we all
know that for most softwares, some attractive eye-candies are useful. Even
GMail uses more than a simple <input type="button"> to display
their buttons.So here comes Da Button Factory. It aims at making it easier to create
pretty buttons, which are one of the key elements of an user interface
(especially on the web), in an quick and human-friendly way (not tons of
options/menus/concepts like in an image processing program).
And because using plain image files on the web often sucks, it (will)
provide solutions that makes good use of CSS.Currently it's just a beta. There is only a very simple CSS solution
implemented. It may looks ugly in some browsers. Things are not polished.But I would be very glad to hear any comments of yours on this "draft". Do you
find it interesting? Do you have any critics/ideas about it? Did you notice
any bugs or problems?Oh, and I am french, so please excuse me for any grammar/spelling mistake in
this post, and don't hesitate to correct me, of course :-) |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | Hates_: Nice and simple to use. I can certainly see myself using this a lot. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | brk: This is really kind of cool.Curious to know what method you're using to generate the actual buttons? |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | tortilla: This is really well done. I like the fact you put in examples and allow users to edit those examples. I will definitely use and recommend to others. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | indiejade: Nice! Creating image buttons really isn't that difficult, but the gradients are very pretty. I can see how this could be massively convenient for some people.P.S. I added your site to SU: http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.dabuttonfactory.com/ |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | zepolen: Your background css option produces code that doesn't work in Opera.Otherwise, it's nice and simple. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | DXL: Really nice, but I'd suggest adding a color picker to the color fields. Not everybody can calculate hex values from the top of their head. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | nate: Yeah, looks pretty useful. Any thoughts about charging anything for it?I'm a huge fan of Joe Krause's advice to beta test a business model while you beta test your product: How you make your money is equally relevant in how people perceive your product. http://www.brendonwilson.com/blog/2006/04/30/joe-kraus-confe... |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | vikram: I would like to pick the color rather than enter the RGB numbers or the name. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | jrnkntl: It doesnt work in IE7 (stuck on this browser at the University Library, so no alternative). The progress indicator keeps going. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | yef: Great job. The buttons look great for such minimal effort. Suggestions for next steps:1. Add an easy way to get hover and pushed states for buttons. Basically, provide some clever defaults that allow the user to get all 3 at once with minimal work.2. Put in a paypal or tip jar link (it can't hurt, right?)3. Add a pretty attribution link, "Buttons by Da Button Factory" or something. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | palsecam: Thanks everyone for all of your comments!@brk: the method is pretty simple: the images are queried via Ajax to
the server, which runs a Fast-CGI script, written in Perl, to generate
the buttons. Javascript does the rest (visual effects, Ajax, CSS code generation...)@zepolen: thanks for reporting the problem in Opera, I'll investigate ASAP!@DXL: yes, color pickers and more powerful controllers in general (for
picking the orientation maybe, for example) are in the roadmap :-)@exalo: you are not the first one to tell me about a "randomize"
feature. I'll think of it seriously. Thanks.
For the vertical
alignment: normally it should be centered, but the result of
"vertical-align: middle;" vary between browsers. I'll make it better
ASAP :-)
For the non-clickable title: actually it's currently just
a <h1> tag, but this will obviously change, you're right. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | sci: This is great, works very simply and the results look fantastic! I've just created a few to buttons to use on my latest project and they're perfect for my needs - all in less time than it would take to open up PS and create just one button! An awesome app and I wish you every success with it, I second the call for a PayPal link/contribute link, I think many a time-starved designer would happily drop a few $ your way in gratitude. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | jungolaya: Very nice indeed! I agree with yef that you need a simple method to create a hover and click versions for each of the buttons. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | imp: Looks great. Found a bug though. You've reversed the horizontal and vertical padding around the text. Adding vertical padding puts it to the left/right, when it should put it on the top/bottom. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | arnorhs: I love this thing. I'm a designer and I always use Photoshop for these kinds of things, but this is so much quicker and nicer to use... |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | savrajsingh: I like this! Great job. I'd include a small gallery of many great examples on the front page, and as soon as you click an example, it prepop's the settings. You've already got this feature, but it starts from another page. You could keep prepopulating this gallery with buttons that others are creating. :) Again, this is awesome and useful! And the button quality looks pretty good. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | dbul: Absolutely Genius! I've never wanted to pay for something more in my life. Why not use the ycombinator startup tipjoy? (http://tipjoy.com) |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | ahoyhere: OK, I admit, I was expecting it to be super crummy, but you won me over.The Examples section should be more prominent. I just assumed you could only do glossy web 2.0 buttons at first glance. But your examples are impressive.I think, in general, you need to a) add a color picker (as everyone else has said), and b) offer a clickable "playlist" of button settings. Take your examples, make them into recipes, and put them on the front page. I want to click the Apple-style button and have the button I'm working on turn into that style.Make sense?BTW - do you know that song for kids about the button factory? "Hi, my name is Joe, and I work all day at the button factory. One day, my boss came up to me and said 'Hey Joe, are you busy?' I said 'no.' He said, 'So push this button with your right foot.'" etc. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | jasonkester: Nice! I'd suggest adding a file input or url field to supply an icon image for the buttons. Better still, grab the FamFamFam icon set and let people use those.(and add a color picker) |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | fragmede: This is really nicely done. I like it a lot. Branding is important; make a "Buttons by DaButtonFactory.com" button that people can use.Others have already mentioned a colorwheel. Adding that would help usability. Unless I've been doing colors recently, I don't know #f00 from #0f0.Even a simple popup-grid of colors, something like what makebutton.com has for color selection would help here.Minor bugs I came across:Undo does not work for swapping the two background colors.If I hammer the 'Size +' (or any other) button, I get rate limited. I didn't look at the code, is there a query for every button press when I go from 200 -> 250 for the width?The error message for non-integers could be better:
Value "11.2" invalid for option text-size (number between 0 and 2000 expected).
Actually, the error messages could be better all around, but it isn't a huge deal.West/East only shadows don't work:
Value "nonew" invalid for option shadow-orient (possible values: "n", "s", "e", "w", "ne", "no", "so", "se").The top-left text for "Da Button Factory" should be an actual link. (Or just clear the button settings back to the default, or it could even be the 'randomize' link that others have asked for.) |
Worthwhile hacker events in the Bay Area for March/April 2009? | timcederman: If you want to catch up with an ex-pat Aussie for a beer or two while you're here, just drop me a line. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | sketerpot: It's surprisingly hard to make buttons that look bad with this. I had to work hard to pervert it to make a 1997-style monstrosity. Good work on making pleasant design the default. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | mattchew: Let me compare you to http://www.mycoolbutton.com/ which is what I used a few weeks ago when I needed a pretty image button.What I like better there:* Their button has a really sharp glossy look. Yours are nice, but not as nice (that I noticed, at least).* They have more fonts than you do.What I like better about yours:* Lots more control over most of the details. Notably, the custom color gradients.* The showcase of editable examples. Very nice.* Less clutter on the page. Though I certainly would not blame you if you put up ads or a tip-me button.Although I think your extensive options are good, it's sort of a power-user interface. You might consider a simpler interface for visitors who want something very quick and easy. Or, you could expand your gallery of examples, perhaps even add a sidebar of examples to the front page.All in all, very well done. Congratulations and thank you. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | whughes: One small criticism -- the 'Create' button is not immediately obvious, especially since it's up in the navigation section. Maybe make clicking the button do the same action and place the Create button more prominently by the options. |
Worthwhile hacker events in the Bay Area for March/April 2009? | denglish: Thanks for all of the great tips everyone. Should keep us busy :). Looking forward to meeting some of you at some of the events. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | wooby: I really like this. I love programming but I hate photoshopping, and I'll probably use this all the time. It would be nice if I could upload my own font. Response time was quick and I like the history saving. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | sh1mmer: I like the site, so it's kind of a shame for me that you called it "Da Button Factory". It just feels childish and cheesy.Was there a reason for "Da" instead of "The"? Programming isn't "gangsta" rap, after all. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | sh1mmer: You should export as a alpha-transparency PNG-8 not PNG-24. The reason for this is that IE6 won't render any PNG-24 transparency it just makes it all opaque. However with PNG-8 IE6 will make all alpha transparency transparent.This means IE6 users get a slightly chunky rounded corner and users with better browsers (IE7, FF, Safari, etc) get a smooth alpha transparency.My good friend, Nicole Sullivan, has a great presentation on this topic (http://www.slideshare.net/stubbornella/designing-fast-websit...) see slide 55 for PNG optimization.Nicole also worked on a tool with another friend, Stoyan Stephanof, http://smush.it . Smush.it reduces the filesize of your images without losing quality by removing unnecessary bit data, and I think, metadata. For some of your buttons it was carving 14% off the filesize. It might be worth integrating that in for your users. |
Trouble uploading to S3 from local? | trevelyan: You might want to check with S3Fox. Not really useful for batch uploading, but if it can still connect that might be useful info for debugging.... |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | helveticaman: I've been waiting for this for so long...thank you so much. |
Review our startup (www.chuwe.com) | sjs382: I gave some criticism in IRC and sgrove asked me to post it here, too. So here goes:I think the entire design leaves a lot to be desired.
The color scheme is distracting. The green draws your eyes directly to a less-important item. The question should be the most important item. (Possibly followed by whether there are answers or not?)The "answers" should be given at least thesame weight and importance as "votes","2 days ago" should probably be removed for the near future. Why would someone participate in a community that has such little activity? You could always put it back if things liven up.The icons are completely unclear. You explained that the "tag" icon was a hand, but I still dont see it. And even so, not sure how that relates to "tags". And the word bubble is usually used to represent comments not answers. |
Review our startup (www.chuwe.com) | vaksel: Well the first thing you should do, is change the font for the answers. Light gray that strains the eyes = epic fail |
Review our startup (www.chuwe.com) | raptrex: theres too much white space in the green box? you gonna fill it up?
also i was able to reply to a post without an account, use captcha or something to prevent spam |
Review our startup (www.chuwe.com) | ajkirwin: The design has a whole needs to be more consistent. Several visual elements seem to be working against each other, like the green that was mentioned.Also, I think the area that is used for questions needs to have more width to it. |
Review our startup (www.chuwe.com) | timcederman: The inconsistent use of "Chuwe" versus "ChuWe" was the first thing I noticed.The other thing I noticed immediately was the way the green box didn't line up with the question title. Another minor gripe I know...How're you planning to seed this? Stack Overflow (from memory) had a private beta seeding period with invited beta testers who made sure that when the general public hit it, they had a great first impression of the amount of content. At the moment you're probably losing a lot of people who drop in, see how little traffic there is, and don't bother posting a question.If you're going to allow anonymous answers, you should probably have some community spam protection ("Flag this"). Also if you're not logged in, I would put in voting controls as a call to action and to try and get people to register. |
Review our startup (www.chuwe.com) | pj: I think this is a great idea. Startups need a place to talk. But I question, is this really a startup? By that I mean, is this a potential business that will employ people or is it more of an online forum where people can talk about startup stuff? |
Trouble uploading to S3 from local? | throw_away: can you telnet to the port (both 80 & 443)? perhaps one lib is using ssl and the other not. amazon blocks icmp packets, so the traceroutes, they do nothing. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | sanj: I would love to be able to trivially make buttons that ape other UIs, especially in platforms that have a existing look and feel.Examples:Buttons that look "native in Facebook" for fb appsButtons that looks "right" in a Google Gadget.Elements for Apple Dashboard widgets. |
Review our startup (www.chuwe.com) | bbuffone: How do I page through the questions? Seems like this could be offered with a modified version of wordpress and you would get way more functionality. Just change blog to question and comments to answers. |
Review our startup (www.chuwe.com) | ciscoriordan: Typo in emails sent out when questions are answered: .come instead of .comWiden the text inputs on the sign up page, right now they're really narrow. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | tjr: Very nice. I don't presently have any suggestions that haven't already been made, but this is one of the most impressive developer tools I've seen recently. Thank you for your service. |
how can I generate youtube style id? | wooby: Or, using C with /dev/urandom: http://alan.dipert.org/post/84526522/random-strings-with-c |
Review our startup (www.chuwe.com) | alain94040: Good luck to you. We're in the same business, so here's some advice. The first questions on the home page will determine the tone of the subsequent users.Currently, when I visited, question #2 was how to start a brothel in Nevada. If you are not careful, you'll end up like Cambrian House, with projects like "congress is corrupt, help me get rid of congress". And then what?Do not hesitate to moderate by yourself. |
Review our startup (www.chuwe.com) | riso: One thing that I find confusing is the dotted line that separates the question from the tags. At first (and second) glance it seems that the tags belong to the question below. To be honest I never realized I was mismatching the items until I saw the last question on the page. |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | nav: Concept is good. I'd prefer to see a swiss army knife approach with the design. Keep it simple/stupid. Just because your application has various features and services, you don't have to overwhelm a new user by carpet bombing them (humor me;) with them. I'm sure there is plenty of feed back in this thread that will also help with the next revision. Best of luck to the team. |
What are the most popular browser homepages? | basil: I use about:blank because I do not always wish to go to the same page each time I launch my browser, and I don't want to experience a slow start-up as my browser loads a pre-defined home page.Out of curiosity, if you find this data, what do you want to use it for? |
What are the most popular browser homepages? | larryauster: I use Bang Bros. |
What are the most popular browser homepages? | lastkarrde: http://news.ycombinator.com/newestIts always new. |
What are the most popular browser homepages? | catch404: http://start.fedoraproject.org/ , though thats cause I just havn't changed it. |
How are url shorteners making money? | melvinram: Or is it because they are so limited in functionality that cost of server processing is bare minimal? |
How are url shorteners making money? | cperciva: I understand that some of them make money by inserting their IDs into referral links. |
How are url shorteners making money? | mikeyur: They don't. To be honest the majority of url shorteners don't make any money at all. I know because I run one. http://urli.caIt costs me nothing to run because it uses next to no resources on a server that I already pay for and I got the domain for free.//Sidenote, if anyone is interested in using the service, we have a really simple api (as all the services do) http://urli.ca/api note: the urls auto-increment (ie. ab/ac/ad/ etc.) |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | arjungmenon: I actually happened to use a website Cooltext (http://cooltext.com/Buttons) recently, and it also created buttons for you. Comparatively, your website's interface is definitely much better (more dynamic - buttons reflect changes immediately), but in terms of features/options it would be a good idea to take a look at Cooltext and try to add in some of the features that they offer. (Like a wider set of fonts to choose from, button special effects, etc.) |
How are url shorteners making money? | hardik: I think there is a huge indirect value for the owners to be derived from the data and trends it shows. |
How are url shorteners making money? | nuggien: you could probably run it on a $5 dreamhost account and get away with it. |
How are url shorteners making money? | markat2: It would seem that, for isntance. tinyurl.com has ads on the homepage.
The service probably costs close to $0 to run so any upside is profit. |
How are url shorteners making money? | z3r0p4r4d0x: I don't know about most of them, but since Twitter is gaining more people with each passing day, a lot of website marketplaces have buyers interested in URL shortening services. Maybe they want to put ads on it, maybe Affiliate stuff, but selling your service is definitely a money maker. |
How are url shorteners making money? | ckunte: Market research. |
How are url shorteners making money? | silversun: I am awfully new to this game, but I do recall seeing a url shortener which enabled additional tracking to the initiating user. For example, showing the time distribution of the clicks along with originating sites. I may be stretching this a bit far, but just for the heck of it, if I wanted to figure out which social networking website had a larger pull for me in distributing information, this type of service would allow me to do that. (don't ask me why? :) )The way I would build a business model around a URL shortener would be through those types of value add services which would draw users back to the site (ad-revenue, or potentially in-depth "pay" analytics), in addition to the already-mentioned resultant data insights. |
How are url shorteners making money? | rlm: I have seen some url-shorteners offer paid analytics packages for magazines etc., that use the service in their articles. |
What are the most popular browser homepages? | andhapp: I have netvibes as my homepage |
How are url shorteners making money? | peterbraden: well an evil strategy I wouldn't rule out is to make sure that you have loads of links in your system - you now own these links- then after a while insert an advertised page into the flow after a user clicks on one of the links.wouldn't be surprised if some of the shorteners start doing this at some point. |
How are url shorteners making money? | alabut: There's a lot of tinyurl clones that basically do the same job, only focusing on providing redirects for long urls, but one that does more and that I've liked a lot recently is http://tr.im - it got me to switch after years of using tinyurl, mainly because it carries a history of links you've previously shortened and shows some cool traffic stats for each one. So I can see them adding even more features for a paid pro account. |
How are url shorteners making money? | themanual: simple. they dont have to make much money. They can run of a shared server as it just has redirects. Also, they get money from paid advertising on their website. DONE! |
How are url shorteners making money? | apgwoz: Tinyurl has ads, but I wonder how effective it is. People can avoid going there altogether since they provide an API. As do most other services. Simply making use of that API in your own services, software means that their number of page views doesn't increase.Now, it may get annoying, but having a "You are redirecting to http://somelongurl.com" sort of page, would not only be safer for all, but would also provide another spot for ads. (I know one of the services does this already, but I dont' remember which one) |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | phillian: On the usability side, clarifying how to change the color of the button could be more intuitive. |
How are url shorteners making money? | pierrefar: I think I can answer this one, as I own the URL shortener Cligs ( http://cli.gs/ ).There are two main approaches to running a URL shortener: a "basic" approach that simply does a redirect and a more advanced approach with value added services (like analytics).A basic redirect comes in two types:1. A proper HTTP redirect (a 30x code, of which only 301 is of proven SEO value).2.a. A cloaked redirect in which you redirect to a page on the shortening service's website that displays two frames with one frame being the destination page and the other frame being a page you control.2.b. An interstial redirect in which the initial landing is a page on the service's website that "refreshes" after a few seconds to the destination.If you do option 1, then you can't make money off the redirects. You can try to make money off the people using your site. If you look at tinyurl.com, that's exactly what they do: find the AdSense block on the right hand side edge of the site.Both of options 2 offer you a real chance to display advertising. Adjix does that and I have no idea about the kind of revenue they're seeing, but you can see their payout rates at http://web.adjix.com/AdjixLinkerInfo.html .Option 2b is very interesting but the most annoying for the user IMHO. Linkbee allows you put interstial ads (see http://www.linkbee.com/create.php ).The value add services on top of redirection are very valuable. There are two kinds:a. Services that add value to the short URL creator (i.e. the service user). A great example is analytics which tells you a lot about who's clicking through. Competing on analytics is an effective business strategy ;) There are other kinds of value add services, some of which tie back to options 2a and 2b above (i.e. get the user to earn money from their links).b. Services that are unrelated to URL shortening per se, but are valuable. I've seen a few comments in this thread about the value of the data gained from tracking traffic. I'll leave this one to your imagination - run wild!There is a third way to make money: white-label services. I won't explain the business logic behind this, so I'll just point you to my recent announcement on the Cligs blog: http://cli.gs/MvDp1s . Cligs is offering for-pay fully branded short URLs with the analytics built right in. I know of at least one other service that will launch with a similar product soon (they're in testing!).So how can you make money? It's a very competitive market, and the cost of entry is tiny, the user loyalty is almost non-existent, and the traffic can be huge requiring good service architecture. My point from the above is that you will be able to make money as there are ways to create value for your users you can charge for, but expect to get a few bruises on the way.Finally, a personal note: It's a great market to learn business skills in because it's so competitive and the popular services are run by some really smart people. Can you really value the lessons you learn from competing in this market? It beats any MBA you care to point to.And yes, you should use Cligs as it's the best around: http://cli.gs/ :) |
What are the most popular browser homepages? | KWD: I use MyYahoo, and have for what seems like forever. I have never understood the appeal of the blank Google page as I like to see the latest news feeds (NY Times, BBC, and such). I tried iGoogle, but still prefer the MyYahoo layout. I also have my normal daily sites (Techmeme, Hacker News, local news) setup in the Firefox bookmark toolbar.On my work PC I've actually got Firefox setup with 4 tabs (work-related sites) that load when I start it, though MyYahoo is set as the homepage there as well. |
How are url shorteners making money? | yan: "How do we make money? Simple. One word: Volume."(edit: i'm referencing this: http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/first-cit...) |
Please review my webapp: Da Button Factory - create shiny buttons | PanMan: Checked it yesterday, I like it. But I want to use it today, and it's down :(
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.dabuttonfacory.co... |
How are url shorteners making money? | thorax: They can make some money indirectly. As background, we made http://tinyarro.ws.For our service, we make money indirectly by mentioning our other services/sites as friendly as possible. We've seen stellar response from that.It helps that our URL shrinker is new/cute/silly and something people like to show-off on Twitter "the shortest URLs on earth".But our plan isn't to make any money off of the URL shrinking-- it's simply a toy we want to share because it's a really inexpensive project and a good way to promote our other sites. |
How are url shorteners making money? | lazyant: I don't know if I have seen it or not: is there a kind of the opposite service?; a 'de-obfuscator' that takes a meaningless url like someblog.com?p=245 or one of the long corporate url full of numbers and translates it into abetterurl.com/someblog/the_title_of_the_article ?I know because of SEO a lot of urls are now more human readable but it wold be an interesting idea if it hasn't been done yet (too lazy to google). |
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