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CMV:The liberal ideology won't be widely accepted in the near future.
Disclaiming: I'm 20 years old and defend the equality of rights and opportunities for everyone (maybe the disadvantage need to be treated specially in order to achieve it). We won't discuss affirmative action because it was discussed in a previous C... | You listed a number of narratives against liberal ideology that have traction among conservatives. But what about all the narratives against conservative ideology that have traction among liberals... such as that conservatives are heartless or intolerant? | >TIL American schools seems to "suffer" from indoctrination
Every school transmit a political/ideological message to its pupils, and it is a suffering as far as democracy is concerned | 5to5x4 | CMV:The liberal ideology won't be widely accepted in the near future. | Disclaiming: I'm 20 years old and defend the equality of rights and opportunities for everyone (maybe the disadvantage need to be treated specially in order to achieve it). We won't discuss affirmative action because it was discussed in a previous CMV. But:
- People nowadays seem to be too sensitive. Two popular Carn... | 1,486,933,166 | garaile64 | ddnus3v | ddnty7z | 12 | 5 |
CMV: God, as he is commonly described, logically cannot exist
Let me preface by saying that the point of my my argument is not to say that there is no God. My argument is that some of the most common and basic traits of God logically cannot coexist. So, what are the characteristic are we using?
God is:
- The creato... | One is still omniscient and omnipotent if one can foresee the path and results of all possible decisions, even if one defers until later to exercise the decision.
If I know for certain what happens down the left lane and I know for certain what happens down the right I can still claim omniscience even if only later ... | yes but he has made that choice with omniscience,
omniscience if it can look into the future means that god does not exist linearly, thus he essentially knows all effects of all actions he can take and picks the best ones, there is no point in him picking a suboptimal option, as he will still be aware of what conseque... | 5to6pe | CMV: God, as he is commonly described, logically cannot exist | Let me preface by saying that the point of my my argument is not to say that there is no God. My argument is that some of the most common and basic traits of God logically cannot coexist. So, what are the characteristic are we using?
God is:
- The creator of our universe (and possibly others)
- Omnipotent
- Omnisc... | 1,486,933,344 | NoneApplicable | ddnx81r | ddnv5io | 16 | 1 |
CMV: The current wave of nationalism and anti imigration has little chance of taking hold in Canada in the near future.
Canada has long be an extremely progressive country. I mean our conservatives are called the progressive Conservative party. It seems Canada is one of the only western countries that is having very l... | How about:
The US really starts fracking oil as Saudi Arabia and OPEC tries to curtail production. There's not much need for Canadian oil sands or pipelines from Canada. Oil prices stay moderate. Canada's oil economy dries up. Canadians aren't feeling so wealthy anymore and white Canadians aren't so thrilled now tha... | There is no federal election at the moment, that would be your provincial PC party (Or maybe a stroke, idk if Ontario is electing atm im out west).
I think largely we agree mostly (other than there being a federal PC party, there isn't and I would argue the Conservative Party of Canada isn't very close to the PC party... | 5tpevn | CMV: The current wave of nationalism and anti imigration has little chance of taking hold in Canada in the near future. | Canada has long be an extremely progressive country. I mean our conservatives are called the progressive Conservative party. It seems Canada is one of the only western countries that is having very little anti immigration sentiment rising. I think with the recent announcement that the promised election reform won't tak... | 1,486,943,327 | timmytissue | ddo4cx7 | ddo2h1a | 3 | 1 |
CMV: Chance The Rapper is an industry plant
To preface; my definition of an industry plant is someone the music industry chose to become successful, ultimately to make them and the artist money. In Chances instance, they gave him the "independent" look; for him to take the underground role and make people essentially ... | He comes from a pretty influential family in chicago. I dont know if hes wealthy but hes definitely not poor. Hes never said hes poor. His father works for rham emmmanuel in his office and he grew up with spike lee. He mentions working on obamas campaign. These arent things hes ever tried to hide. It doesnt make him an... | Most artists don't make money from their albums. Performing live is where they make most of their money. Putting out your albums for free is a very clever marketing strategy. Also his father is a pretty connected Chicago politician, so whatever money he didn't have from performing might have come from his family.
I... | 5tsnd0 | CMV: Chance The Rapper is an industry plant | To preface; my definition of an industry plant is someone the music industry chose to become successful, ultimately to make them and the artist money. In Chances instance, they gave him the "independent" look; for him to take the underground role and make people essentially say "support him because no one else does"!
... | 1,486,989,798 | Ray229harris | ddoqojp | ddoph98 | 584 | 133 |
CMV: Large number of people who call themselves Christian can not be considered Christian
*This post was prompted by this video titled [“Muslim man sends a message against ISIS for the Paris Attacks”](https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=14a_1447679729&comments=1) ([youtube mirror](https://youtu.be/FGXnv6qkL_Q)) that went ... | I like your view, but Im still going to push against parts of it. It seems like you are making a distinction between a nominal Christian (that only seems to follow your first bullet point of considering themselves Christian) and a mature Christian whose life has been transformed by Jesus' sacrifice into active pursuit... | > Also, I once tried to tell a friend who's an Orthodox that what he's bragging about is adultery and adultery is a sin. He maintained that it is not a sin because “she isn't married”. He refused to consult the Bible or talk with the priest. I still wouldn't outright say he's not a Christian. Hey, he goes to church at ... | 5tti8x | CMV: Large number of people who call themselves Christian can not be considered Christian | *This post was prompted by this video titled [“Muslim man sends a message against ISIS for the Paris Attacks”](https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=14a_1447679729&comments=1) ([youtube mirror](https://youtu.be/FGXnv6qkL_Q)) that went viral some time ago. A man in this video calls himself a Muslim yet swears a lot; [swearing... | 1,487,000,338 | wobblyweasel | dds665h | ddpho7d | 3 | 1 |
CMV: Many people are hypocrites regarding rape, they refuse to admit that they are animals, that is where the so called trauma comes from.
First, sorry if this offends anyone, that was never my intention, my true intention is to point out hypocrisy, the hypocrisy surrounding rape that engulfs society these days... and... | >I could never really empathize with the trauma of rape victims because to me it reeks of human ego, why do they think they are so special? We are all animals, who simply orgasm from sex
I'm really uncertain what to make of any of this. Are you trying to imply that it's arrogant to not want to be raped? What people ar... | Can you explain this connection between arrogance and trauma from orgasms during rape? Why do you see it this way and why does it bother you? | 5ttr0o | CMV: Many people are hypocrites regarding rape, they refuse to admit that they are animals, that is where the so called trauma comes from. | First, sorry if this offends anyone, that was never my intention, my true intention is to point out hypocrisy, the hypocrisy surrounding rape that engulfs society these days... and I don't condone and I think rape is terrible, but it is bad just as any beating or physical violence, there is nothing special about it...a... | 1,487,002,766 | Garlicplanet | ddoxnm4 | ddoxj7u | 13 | 1 |
CMV: When autonomous vehicles become mainstream, riding by yourself will become a luxury.
I believe that when autonomous vehicles enter the mainstream, being driven in a car by yourself will become a luxury. It seems logical that if a vehicle is taking a certain route and they happen to be going by someone who needs t... | Why do you own a car that fits 4 people in the first place when you mostly travel as a solo driver?
Its because its nice to have the option. But in the future when you can just call self driving cars whenever that fits your needs, you can just call a special 4-seater when you need it. So most of their fleet will be ... | When they become more mainstream riding by yourself will become more common because there will be more of them available to everyone. In particular those that cannot drive currently. Autonomous cars will replace taxis and ubers (current single passenger driving), a lot of personally owned vehicles will also be replaced... | 5ttzqh | CMV: When autonomous vehicles become mainstream, riding by yourself will become a luxury. | I believe that when autonomous vehicles enter the mainstream, being driven in a car by yourself will become a luxury. It seems logical that if a vehicle is taking a certain route and they happen to be going by someone who needs to go in that same direction, it shouldn't be that much of an inconvenience to pick them up ... | 1,487,005,150 | taqfu | ddp68ge | ddp20vw | 3 | 2 |
CMV: "Good (moral value)" is a poor choice of words for Aspirations of Human Interaction: "Kind is better"
Word choice is very important to me. When someone says they "Want to be good" in a moral sense, there is inherently... well.
Good means a lot of things to a lot of people. And often that is very flexible, becau... | "Kind" is too limiting and - by most interpretations of these words -is a short-sighted value, comparatively.
Take for example the phrase "it's not the kind thing, but it's the good thing". We can imagine doing something that brings about the best result that isn't kind. However, if we reverse this to "it's not the ... | Sometimes unkind acts are good: pushing a fat man in the path of an oncoming trolley to save 5 workers down the track. | 5tu4tu | CMV: "Good (moral value)" is a poor choice of words for Aspirations of Human Interaction: "Kind is better" | Word choice is very important to me. When someone says they "Want to be good" in a moral sense, there is inherently... well.
Good means a lot of things to a lot of people. And often that is very flexible, because to me, Good implies.. that one feels right with it? Which, while that is certainly nice. I like to feel r... | 1,487,006,452 | slumberland | ddp0d14 | ddp02iq | 4 | 2 |
CMV: The 5 star review system is an awful review system for businesses.
A five star review system is an awful way for customers to review places like businesses. The language surrounding each star is difficult to interpret with 1-5 being: Bad, Poor, Fair, Good, Excellent. When a business performs exactly as I suspect ... | What about customers who have neutral or mixed feelings towards the business? If I went to a restaurant and the food was good but the music was too loud, I neither "liked" nor "disliked" the experience. I could choose not to review at all, of course, but what if do I want to communicate my mixed satisfaction? What i... | > Say a restaurant has 200 likes. What does that mean?
Well yes, like-or-dislike system is a lot more useful. For example, Steam's review system only has two options -- "recommended" or "not recommended". But the system still shows information about the proportion of votes. It will say things like [OVERALL: Mixed. 68... | 5tujj1 | CMV: The 5 star review system is an awful review system for businesses. | A five star review system is an awful way for customers to review places like businesses. The language surrounding each star is difficult to interpret with 1-5 being: Bad, Poor, Fair, Good, Excellent. When a business performs exactly as I suspect I would say that it's a fair business, such as a grocery store. This is a... | 1,487,010,307 | Lilgherkin | ddp8nls | ddp7zrx | 2 | 1 |
CMV: By promoting a violent ideology you consent to violence against you, yourself.
I used to be against punching Nazi's, so technically my mind has already changed at least once on this particular topic. My instinct was that by promoting violence or being violent against someone, even if their ideology promoted horri... | >free speech doesn't cover threats on people's lives, and that at least spiritually/deontologically speaking, promoting an ideology like Nazism where you talk about killing a group of people on an "intellectual" level is essentially a threat to those people
Free speech doesn't cover "true threats", but not every threa... | This gets into a bit of a gray area, as you say. In our society, the point at which your promotion of "violent ideology" transforms either into literally "fighting words", or into a direct incitement to violence, then we collectively agree that it's a reasonable imposition on your rights to speak freely to use the mini... | 5tvm1p | CMV: By promoting a violent ideology you consent to violence against you, yourself. | I used to be against punching Nazi's, so technically my mind has already changed at least once on this particular topic. My instinct was that by promoting violence or being violent against someone, even if their ideology promoted horrible things like genocide, would essentially be both a slippery slope (We'd start atta... | 1,487,020,662 | warped655 | ddpfnae | ddpcws1 | 16 | 14 |
CMV: The U.S. will not come together unless another national tragedy on the level 9/11 occurs.
First off I'd like to preface that I do not wish for anything tragic such as 9/11 to happen to the U.S. again.
I simply believe that with the current state of the nation and how divided everyone is it would take a nationa... | I'm going to argue in the opposite direction: a major national tragedy would be *insufficient* to reverse the current trend of polarization.
The cleaving apart of Republicans and Democrats from more or less politically overlapping, regional constituencies into two far-apart, discrete political cultures is a long-term ... | Given that in the last election, the [vast majority of Trump's supporters were over 45](http://www.forbes.com/sites/bowmanmarsico/2016/11/30/understanding-the-trump-vote/#2ffe7f4033dc), isn't it possible that the current division will simply ease slowly over the course of the next generation while many of these people ... | 5twa4h | CMV: The U.S. will not come together unless another national tragedy on the level 9/11 occurs. | First off I'd like to preface that I do not wish for anything tragic such as 9/11 to happen to the U.S. again.
I simply believe that with the current state of the nation and how divided everyone is it would take a national catastrophe for everyone to come together. Too many people are content with dividing everyone... | 1,487,027,033 | MSUfan918 | ddpix4d | ddpimss | 4 | 2 |
CMV: All it would take to destroy our democracy at this point is a successful attack on the scale of 9-11.
If this were to happen, Donald Trump would be "proven right" and it would give him the ultimate fodder to override judiciary checks on his power.
Americans would buy it...hook, line, sinker.
I believe that an... | >If this were to happen, Donald Trump would be "proven right" and it would give him the ultimate fodder to override judiciary checks on his power. Americans would buy it...hook, line, sinker.
Possibly. I'd say that the degree to which the Democratic politicians and their voters acquiesce to him is contingent upon his ... | Just to let you know, the power of the judiciary is not being weakened at all. They literally just stopped one of his EOs and the temp block was upheld. I think you are overestimating the power Trump is wielding over the judiciary due to some zealous reporting that has been going on. When they are talking about him "at... | 5twezo | CMV: All it would take to destroy our democracy at this point is a successful attack on the scale of 9-11. |
If this were to happen, Donald Trump would be "proven right" and it would give him the ultimate fodder to override judiciary checks on his power.
Americans would buy it...hook, line, sinker.
I believe that an attack of this sort would create a perfect situation for Trump to seize power and erode the checks and bala... | 1,487,028,444 | enterTheLizard | ddpkszy | ddpkixo | 560 | 20 |
CMV: Empiricism is the truest -ism, and isn't inherently "western"
By empiricism, I mean the idea that there is always only one truth, and one best method for obtaining said truth. Usually, that truth tends to be one established by western science, but I think that just because western science tends to follow an empir... | That is not what the definition of Empiricism. You are making things up and that makes having a discussion difficult.
Empiricism means that you gain knowledge through personal observation and experience. It in no ways makes claims aoub "singular truth" or a singular method of obtaining truth. | >there is always a clear true and false
True or false: matter is made of particles and not waves. | 5tx9xm | CMV: Empiricism is the truest -ism, and isn't inherently "western" | By empiricism, I mean the idea that there is always only one truth, and one best method for obtaining said truth. Usually, that truth tends to be one established by western science, but I think that just because western science tends to follow an empiricism method doesn't make empiricism western, or not applicable in o... | 1,487,037,423 | agreatgreendragon | ddptx8q | ddpswjf | 6 | 4 |
CMV:Devaluing a moral position by arguing that a different moral postion is objectively more important is just an excuse not to care and escape guilt.
The best way I can explain what I mean is to give an example. A co-worker does not eat meat on the grounds that the vast majority of animals are mistreated. This co-wor... | >That is why I think those that use this type of argument are really just trying to escape guilt.
What about people who use those arguments who are not, themselves, guilty? Such as a vegetarian who chastised his fellow vegetarian for buying strawberries picked with migrant labor? | > This co-worker was called a hypocrite because he eats cheap Costco strawberries that were most likely picked by migrant workers. But, isn't caring and attempting to make a difference about one issue better than not caring about any?
Whether one situation (where he cares for both) is better than the other situation (... | 5tyjak | CMV:Devaluing a moral position by arguing that a different moral postion is objectively more important is just an excuse not to care and escape guilt. | The best way I can explain what I mean is to give an example. A co-worker does not eat meat on the grounds that the vast majority of animals are mistreated. This co-worker was called a hypocrite because he eats cheap Costco strawberries that were most likely picked by migrant workers. But, isn't caring and attempting t... | 1,487,052,575 | k_e_c | ddqg2ef | ddqazpm | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Humans will (practically) never be able to transition to fully robotic beings
As of now it seems that humanity is striving for everlasting life and the singularity.
I believe that the singularity can be reached, but it will be out of the human domain, humans being a very peripheral element (or just viewed as an ... | OK, now we're talking.. [Ship of Theseus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus)!
While adding on parts (extra memory, maybe some processing power) would fall into another argument, replacing the brain slowly with machine parts could lead to a full transition.
With 10 percent I think I would still be me. But ... | I'm not sure it would be right to call it a copy - it may be that the biological generation of mind must always be different from the robotic, because what generates a mind affects the mind. You would never be able to create a copy of a drawing made with a pencil using a pen, to make an analogy. There would be some sim... | 5tz3jy | CMV: Humans will (practically) never be able to transition to fully robotic beings | As of now it seems that humanity is striving for everlasting life and the singularity.
I believe that the singularity can be reached, but it will be out of the human domain, humans being a very peripheral element (or just viewed as an earlier part of evolution).
While we should be able to upload human minds onto mach... | 1,487,061,362 | dzsimbo | ddq50uh | ddq4hhb | 5 | 1 |
CMV: Liberals and Conservatives are both correct about the rise of Donald Trump, but assign different blame.
Note: In this thread I use the terms "conservative" and "liberal" in specific ways. I'm not looking to get into an argument about what constitutes a conservative or a liberal. In this case, I'm counting anyone ... | Wow, you've gotten some terrible responses here, and I'm sorry that you have had to deal with that, and that the arguments you've had have been so poor in substance to your original CMV.
Not sure if you are still answering this, but if so here's what I would say. It's true that the reps and dems are observing the s... | What? Trump won because of party lines thinking, but it had nothing to do with race, besides being a talking point. It's as accurate to say that because the Dems supported sanctions against Russia, and Trump opposed them. No. This problem is due to an attack on Democracy outside of the false dichotomy of Liberal/Conser... | 5u0y1w | CMV: Liberals and Conservatives are both correct about the rise of Donald Trump, but assign different blame. | Note: In this thread I use the terms "conservative" and "liberal" in specific ways. I'm not looking to get into an argument about what constitutes a conservative or a liberal. In this case, I'm counting anyone who has voted for Donald Trump, anti-feminists, and anti-social justice as "conservative".
Head into any red... | 1,487,087,561 | Mitoza | ddr7ym9 | ddqk7ia | 3 | 2 |
CMV: As someone who has been underweight most his life. It is NOT easier to put on weight than it is to lose weight.
I have been told over and over (by individuals who have no problem eating) that I have it so easy and I can eat as much as I want so whats the big deal?
I am 6'3" and 180 lbs currently, and it was a s... | I am the complete opposite of you OP. If I ate what I wanted whenever I was hungry, I'd gain a horrifying amount of weight very quickly. So, I track calories and plan meals and with a lot of effort I am able to lose weight. If I lose focus I'd set myself back very badly. Because that's my experience, when someone says ... | Hi OP,
I'm going to break my argument down to a qualitative argument and a quantitative argument.
I'm not huge into buying into the endo/ecto/meso thing either. Anecdotally, it should be clear to you that the amount one could eat in a day is pretty unlimited (if I go home to Georgia I could easily eat 5000 calories ... | 5u1aza | CMV: As someone who has been underweight most his life. It is NOT easier to put on weight than it is to lose weight. | I have been told over and over (by individuals who have no problem eating) that I have it so easy and I can eat as much as I want so whats the big deal?
I am 6'3" and 180 lbs currently, and it was a struggle to get here. I frequent r/gainit and credit my weight gain to that sub. I used to weight 145 and it was not an... | 1,487,091,022 | Paperted | ddqt5x6 | ddqkw5g | 40 | 24 |
CMV: The breeding and purchase of pugs should be treated as animal cruelty and thus illegal.
Pugs are notoriously riddled by breathing issues, arthritis, spinal problems and even eyes popping from the sockets. They are purposefully bred in order to fulfill the demand for "cuteness" manifested in short snouts, barely e... | What about selectively breeding pugs into a more healthy breed, more akin to their ancestor?
People don't want unhealthy dogs that cost a lot of money to maintain, so as the popularity of pugs rises, the demand for healthier pugs will increase and breeders will start selectively breeding for healthier characteristics... | Rather than a mother crippling her healthy child, it's the same as letting people with genetic diseases have children. They are allowed to have children, and it would be wrong to forbid them from doing so.
Saying that a pug should not have been born is unfair to the pug. It can still be happy. It can live happier than... | 5u3fdq | CMV: The breeding and purchase of pugs should be treated as animal cruelty and thus illegal. | Pugs are notoriously riddled by breathing issues, arthritis, spinal problems and even eyes popping from the sockets. They are purposefully bred in order to fulfill the demand for "cuteness" manifested in short snouts, barely existing tails, protruding eyes, wheezing, reverse sneezes, and commitment issues ("look, my li... | 1,487,110,380 | electrocabbage | ddr7wzk | ddr2w56 | 25 | 9 |
CMV: Studying History is not very Useful
Let me preface this by saying that I actually quite enjoy learning about history and find it very interesting. However, I have been thinking a lot about it, and I'm struggling to find ways in which the study of history is useful.
1) The "history" that it is taught in schools i... | I will begin by saying that, while I disagree with the premise that history is not useful, I find it interesting and I also think it is an excellent way to begin a discussion in many cases on why many traditions and methods, both personal and societal, are there. Many times the reasoning behind a method or tradition i... | Those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it. Those who do take advantage of those who don't.
See also, South Seas company, Fabian tactics, and the kick ass dudes and dudettes of math, science, and engineering. Hero of Alexandria, Pythagoras, Hume, Lovelace and Babbage, and other heros of mine.
There are his... | 5u3hdw | CMV: Studying History is not very Useful | Let me preface this by saying that I actually quite enjoy learning about history and find it very interesting. However, I have been thinking a lot about it, and I'm struggling to find ways in which the study of history is useful.
1) The "history" that it is taught in schools is more select significant events than hist... | 1,487,110,944 | FlexPlexico12 | ddr3v9i | ddr2gpq | 3 | 1 |
CMV: Artificial intelligence will be the end of us all. But not right away.
I bumped into the recent news article that Google's Deep Mind computers were resorting to aggressive tactics to accomplish goals set to them. What I'm taking from this is an AI is immediately recognizing that violence and force are legitimate ... | I always find this an odd topic. It seems to be driven more by the fear of the unknown, not arguments about why it would happen.
If intelligence and self-awareness were risks to co-existence then our biggest threats would be MENSA and mindful meditation. Intelligence is not the problem; it's self-preservation and *lac... | > You suggested building in limits in the code, to which I pointed out that code fails all the time, so that is a poor safeguard.
I did not imply this was the sole thing we could do to stop such events, but it is certainly one of multiple options.
> At that point we're getting into highly improbable speculation that... | 5u3udj | CMV: Artificial intelligence will be the end of us all. But not right away. | I bumped into the recent news article that Google's Deep Mind computers were resorting to aggressive tactics to accomplish goals set to them. What I'm taking from this is an AI is immediately recognizing that violence and force are legitimate tools for realizing an end goal.
I struggle to see an end-game where an AI d... | 1,487,114,665 | saltedfish | ddreabj | ddr9ahy | 12 | 1 |
CMV: Affirmative action is a fancy term for discrimination
Affirmative action is also called positive discrimination. I believe that is an oxymoron.
People should be rewarded for their skills and their efforts, not for their gender or race.
In the same way that treating someone negatively for their gender/race is di... | This is an excerpt from a [statement](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/06/21/how-harvard-set-the-model-for-affirmative-action-in-college-admissions/?utm_term=.a1845aea9881) by Harvard on their rationale for affirmative action, I urge you to read the rest of it and the accompanying article.
*The ... | "Positive discrimination" is not an oxymoron. Discrimination may describe "unfair treatment", but "positive discrimination" can be construed as "differently fair". Discrimination in this usage is not necessarily a bad thing, as it points out actual differences regarding the treatment of peoples in a system.
>People sh... | 5u42sd | CMV: Affirmative action is a fancy term for discrimination | Affirmative action is also called positive discrimination. I believe that is an oxymoron.
People should be rewarded for their skills and their efforts, not for their gender or race.
In the same way that treating someone negatively for their gender/race is discrimination, treating them favorably for the same reasons i... | 1,487,117,286 | DarkPhoenix07 | ddr7j30 | ddr6of2 | 35 | 1 |
CMV: Most Mexican food (enchiladas, burritos, tacos, etc.) tastes exactly the same.
(I just wanted to get away from all the politics on this sub and do something fun but that I firmly believe in and will NOT back down on.)
(EDIT: Because many of the comments are along the lines of, "Don't generalize all Mexicans/Amer... | I'd like to be you for a second and rephrase your CMV statement. It should read "I am not awesome". To change your view I'd then proceed to tell you that you deeply appreciate the difference between a quality rolled burrito and a shitty one, that you need your pico de gallo to be just a little spicy but not too wet, ... | OP, are you talking about Mexican food as actually eaten in Mexico, or Americanized Mexican food? Because if we're talking about the former, tacos and burritos not only use different ingredient combinations all together, but they also vary by region. In Mexico, at least where I visited, enchiladas were the primary food... | 5u48tz | CMV: Most Mexican food (enchiladas, burritos, tacos, etc.) tastes exactly the same. | (I just wanted to get away from all the politics on this sub and do something fun but that I firmly believe in and will NOT back down on.)
(EDIT: Because many of the comments are along the lines of, "Don't generalize all Mexicans/American Mexican food isn't real" I just wanted to make sure people know I'm not trying t... | 1,487,119,096 | lipglosschaos | ddrbq1j | ddr7xk2 | 6 | 3 |
CMV: There is no reason people not studying a science major should have to take science courses at a four-year university.
I'm being forced against my will to take two science classes, at least one lab, despite being in a liberal arts (political science) online course. Insisting I take these science classes to make su... | A bachelor's degree isn't supposed to just be a jobs program. It's supposed to give you an education.
Each academic department has different manners of thought when it comes to issues. A philosopher thinks of a rubik's cube differently than an engineer. An artist thinks of the Iraq War differently than a historian. A ... | The point of this is to ensure a well-rounded education for all citizens.
The more information that becomes known among the general populace the better effects it has on the community as a whole.
The Mitochondria line is a joke, but because you took those courses you probably have a basic understanding of evolution, ... | 5u4mzx | CMV: There is no reason people not studying a science major should have to take science courses at a four-year university. | I'm being forced against my will to take two science classes, at least one lab, despite being in a liberal arts (political science) online course. Insisting I take these science classes to make sure my education is broad is ridiculous. When people complain about math I usually remind them that they'd be surprised how m... | 1,487,123,795 | lipglosschaos | ddrf5xy | ddrbpn7 | 15 | 3 |
CMV: Donald Trump will probably have to be forced out of office.
A lot of the things that the President has said, in office and on the campaign trail, are disturbing, but what worries me the most are his repeated suggestions that any system in which he can't win is rigged and illegitimate. If he is impeached, if he lo... | I'm probably trying to convince myself as much as you here, but... here we go.
Trump's routine response to criticism or defeat is denial, yes, but it's a very particular form of denial. It's one where he portrays himself as the victim, unfairly maligned by his enemies or by the powers-that-be or some other illegitimat... | Why would he not leave in 2024? He wouldn't have lost anything, just run out of terms. | 5u4xxw | CMV: Donald Trump will probably have to be forced out of office. | A lot of the things that the President has said, in office and on the campaign trail, are disturbing, but what worries me the most are his repeated suggestions that any system in which he can't win is rigged and illegitimate. If he is impeached, if he loses his re-election bid in 2020, or even if he makes it all the wa... | 1,487,127,522 | covertwalrus | ddrez5k | ddre7me | 15 | 13 |
CMV: People who believe in a higher power that gives people a predetermined destiny/fate have no right to complain about a loved one's death (or any other negative event).
People who say "God has a plan for us all" and things of this sort and who also believe that "God" has our best interests at heart should not compl... | >If someone believes that there is a set path that everyone follows in life that they can not change...
Then they can't help but complain. That's part if the plan that cannot change.
Big problem with determinism is you can no longer hold people responsible for their actions. They are doing as they must do.
| What if people believe there is a plan, but don't like that plan? Aren't they allowed to complain about the plan? Most people acknowledge that governments have plans for particular policy areas, however our acknowledgement of that plan doesn't mean we can't complain about it.
I think if a person were to also accept th... | 5u61yj | CMV: People who believe in a higher power that gives people a predetermined destiny/fate have no right to complain about a loved one's death (or any other negative event). | People who say "God has a plan for us all" and things of this sort and who also believe that "God" has our best interests at heart should not complain about unfair circumstances or a negative event in their life.
I think they are perfectly within their rights to grieve and feel bad.
If someone believes that there is... | 1,487,143,266 | DjFortune98 | ddrql2k | ddrpr8o | 3 | 2 |
CMV: People who have sex with pre-op transexuals are gay
Ok so I feel like I should add a lot of context as to what sort of belief should be changed .
First of all about myself. I am a big supporter for gay rights , I think racism is extremely stupid and I feel like if you were born a man or woman but want to be a w... | When people say, "I'm sexually attracted to women/men," they're only concerned about whether that person identifies as a woman/man, not what's between their legs?
Because you'd be disingenuous in claiming that that statement is true.
> What do you think of a man who likes getting fucked with a strap-on by his cis w... | But Trans people can't always get operations. They deal with many other things, including body dysphoria. You are saying people who are able to get an operation are real while those who cannot are not.
There are also many cases across the globe of culturally recognized Trans people long before operations took place a... | 5u6li7 | CMV: People who have sex with pre-op transexuals are gay | Ok so I feel like I should add a lot of context as to what sort of belief should be changed .
First of all about myself. I am a big supporter for gay rights , I think racism is extremely stupid and I feel like if you were born a man or woman but want to be a woman or man respectively(sorry about the confusing wording... | 1,487,153,505 | losingit303 | ddrrbqx | ddrr1ri | 4 | 3 |
CMV: I am a classical liberal.
I see classical liberalism as the view that the government should never initiate the use of force. Force can only rightly be used in retaliation against someone who has violated the rights of others by initiating force, like a criminal.
The reason I think this is that I don't think I ha... | The ultimate issue with this view is that your system, aside from having failed before (The Victorian era had the whole "Let people who want to help the poor do it" thing. Lots of dead poor people resulted), it is completely incapable of proactive action or good organizing.
This comes down to two issues:
1. Many is... | I'm personally sympathetic to the classical liberalism viewpoint as well, but one of the areas it falls apart for me are when you try to reconcile it to problems such as pollution.
Let's say we believe that it's bad for a factory to pump harmful pollutants into a river, let's even go further and say that there's overw... | 5u7txg | CMV: I am a classical liberal. | I see classical liberalism as the view that the government should never initiate the use of force. Force can only rightly be used in retaliation against someone who has violated the rights of others by initiating force, like a criminal.
The reason I think this is that I don't think I have the right to force someone el... | 1,487,170,446 | VictorHuge | ddrzski | ddrzayo | 18 | 4 |
CMV: The United States should replace Social Security with a Personal Security Account system.
When I say "social security" I really mean the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance portion of social security. I believe that the Disability Insurance portion of social security should remain unchanged.
**Part One: The Fundame... | > Subject all withdrawals above $2,639 (the current maximum benefit, also this should be indexed to inflation) to a tax. The rate is debatable, but I believe it should be relatively high, maybe 50%.
Balances remaining at death could be bequeathed to heirs.
First off, your math is all wrong. If someone has a million ... | > Just because it's not discretionary spending does not mean the government doesn't pay for it. You're playing semantics here.
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No, I'm not. Social Security was set up to be explicitly separate from the General Fund. That money is tracked separately from collection to disbursement. Pretending they are the same th... | 5u7ye4 | CMV: The United States should replace Social Security with a Personal Security Account system. | When I say "social security" I really mean the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance portion of social security. I believe that the Disability Insurance portion of social security should remain unchanged.
**Part One: The Fundamental Problem with Social Security**
The current social security system in the United States is ... | 1,487,171,549 | BainCapitalist | ddtzwhz | ddshu1n | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Christianity's call to turn the other cheek in the face of personal insult or violence sets it apart from other religions, it's a revolutionary moral call.
I think this call to direct forgiveness and dispassion is revolutionary. It directly challenges core instincts of the human mind, that if someone hits you, yo... | > The one thing that truly sets Christianity apart (most religions incorporate the golden rule or rules about hospitality and charity) is the eminently results-oriented call to forgive those that hurt you
This isn't unique to Christianity. Buddhism teaches a similar concept.
Buddha: "If anyone should give you a blow... | There are similar calls to remain non-violent in older religions.
[Ahimsa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahimsa) for example.
Quoting wikipedia here -
> Ahimsa (Sanskrit: अहिंसा; IAST: ahimsā, Pāli:[1] avihiṃsā) means 'not to injure' and 'compassion' and refers to a key virtue in Indian religions.[2][3][4] The word... | 5u9j6o | CMV: Christianity's call to turn the other cheek in the face of personal insult or violence sets it apart from other religions, it's a revolutionary moral call. | I think this call to direct forgiveness and dispassion is revolutionary. It directly challenges core instincts of the human mind, that if someone hits you, you hit them back. That if someone steals from you, you take the money back. That if someone calls you a name, you call them names back. This concept is reflected i... | 1,487,185,773 | TezzMuffins | ddsbzkb | ddsbx3u | 27 | 4 |
CMV: It is morally commendable for a government to occasionally perform DDOS attacks on private companies who's network or data infrastructure make up a vital part of the country's economy.
The argument is simple:
* P1: These services are vital to the stability of the country
* P2: It is the government's job to provi... | This is not something tax payers are going to want to pay the government to do, and is also rife for abuse by companies who'd like their competition be DDOSed. It introduces an incredible incentive for companies to be involved in the political process to influence laws which would turn this against their competitors.
... | This is like saying you have to occasionally set fire to important buildings to improve fire safety. You could use your same arguments to make this point. There are so many other ways to improve building fire safety that don't include actual fire.
You seem to think that a real world test is necessary, but at the sam... | 5u9sed | CMV: It is morally commendable for a government to occasionally perform DDOS attacks on private companies who's network or data infrastructure make up a vital part of the country's economy. | The argument is simple:
* P1: These services are vital to the stability of the country
* P2: It is the government's job to provide stability to the country
* P3: Companies are often lazy about security until right after it bites them in the ass
* P4: Companies that are making up vital parts of a country's stability us... | 1,487,188,147 | Anvil_Connect | ddset7h | ddsel6w | 5 | 4 |
CMV: The 2nd Amendment is now pointless
I interpret the 2nd amendment as follows: to prevent a government from exercising tyranny over the citizenry by force of arms. The idea was that ordinary citizens would have their own weapons and be trained and drilled in their use, so that if the day came they would be able to ... | Your understanding of warfare is binary: Power vs. Power, the greater power winning. In reality, war is like a big socio-industrial game, like the ones already occurring, involving weapons. Weapons are just some of the tools, and different weapons have different capabilities, not all so easily predictable or straight-f... | You do have a point when you say that the government could probably instill tyranny any time they wanted to, raid houses, bomb homes, and citizens wouldn't have much of a chance. Sure, citizens could fight back with the weapons they have, but their efforts would mostly be in vain considering the sheer power of the mili... | 5uah7n | CMV: The 2nd Amendment is now pointless | I interpret the 2nd amendment as follows: to prevent a government from exercising tyranny over the citizenry by force of arms. The idea was that ordinary citizens would have their own weapons and be trained and drilled in their use, so that if the day came they would be able to stand up to a government which oversteppe... | 1,487,194,735 | sennalvera | ddsosvl | ddsn37c | 22 | 0 |
CMV: Education should create intellectuals not employees
The role of an education system should not be to create skilled employable individuals rather it should strive to create polymath intellectuals. Although they play a crucial role in society, over history those who made a lasting difference were not the skilled e... | The need for intellectuals is far too low. For every conceptual piece of thought an intellectual could conceivably bring to the table, he needs multiple teams of people who are up to task for realizing his conventions. It would be a logistical impossibility to have all intellectuals and no employees.
Elon Musk is an i... | If you believe that society depends upon a diversity of skills and experience AND you believe that the breadth of a the polymath individual is at the expense of depth in one particular field than you may have created a good individual for our vacuum universe where said individual is all we've got. However, you've hobb... | 5uatm5 | CMV: Education should create intellectuals not employees | The role of an education system should not be to create skilled employable individuals rather it should strive to create polymath intellectuals. Although they play a crucial role in society, over history those who made a lasting difference were not the skilled employable workers, but the intellectuals. If we could crea... | 1,487,198,129 | Ando_Bando | ddsn0cu | ddsmrro | 25 | 3 |
CMV: Blocking a highway is criminal
**edit: hastily made the title, I meant it to say this: Blocking a highway should be prosecuted the same as taking hostages.** Before I get started, my view isn't based on evidence, it is based on opinion. I will keep an open mind, and please, try to point out flaws. So, blocking a ... | Hostage taking is prosecuted by a life sentence. Blocking the highway protesting should be a life sentence, too? | I mean, I think the difference between a hostage and a kidnap-ee is the law enforcement involvement. | 5uax8u | CMV: Blocking a highway is criminal | **edit: hastily made the title, I meant it to say this: Blocking a highway should be prosecuted the same as taking hostages.** Before I get started, my view isn't based on evidence, it is based on opinion. I will keep an open mind, and please, try to point out flaws. So, blocking a highway (I'm referring to protesters ... | 1,487,199,151 | mnmgod | ddswtvm | ddsrp3a | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Everything is "natural"
Not the deepest or most important view I hold, but I've often balked at the idea that anything is "unnatural." To be clear, I hope to discuss the spirit of this view, not the semantics.
Specifically, I obviously concede that something can be man-made, that something can be unusual. But m... | It's not that everything is natural, it's that natural is a word overused and misused to a degree that makes it seem meaningless.
That group in Africa producing a cheese-esque product is making an unnatural product - it's something that wouldn't occur outside of man's influence, man's intentional creation of it.
You ... | Damn, this is a clusterfuck of a post. (not meaning to be rude, just there is a *lot* of info.) This is a good philosophical argument. The exception to this is natural disasters. These occur in nature and are not man made (tornadoes, floods, I'm sure you know the rest). Human-made disasters are caused by human action, ... | 5uazyp | CMV: Everything is "natural" | Not the deepest or most important view I hold, but I've often balked at the idea that anything is "unnatural." To be clear, I hope to discuss the spirit of this view, not the semantics.
Specifically, I obviously concede that something can be man-made, that something can be unusual. But my gripe is with the idea that ... | 1,487,199,928 | BAWguy | ddsonzh | ddsoh44 | 4 | 1 |
CMV: People who can't fit completely within their seat on an airplane flight should be required to purchase two tickets for two seats.
I just got to a hotel after spending 4 hours on a flight next to a person who was *literally* on top of me for the entire flight. They had to sit with their legs spread apart in order ... | Most airlines do. I can see by the seatback material that you flew Delta, which is one of the few airlines that doesn't require such things.
https://www.cheapair.com/blog/travel-tips/airline-policies-for-overweight-passengers-traveling-this-summer/
If this is something you want from your airline provider, you should... | I don't think people should have to pay what amounts to an extra 'tax' merely because of their size and the desire of airlines to cram everyone into the tiniest space they can. I mean, I'm a fairly small chick. Airline seats, unless I'm sitting next to a bulkhead or in first class (which is expensive) are cramped even ... | 5ub1id | CMV: People who can't fit completely within their seat on an airplane flight should be required to purchase two tickets for two seats. | I just got to a hotel after spending 4 hours on a flight next to a person who was *literally* on top of me for the entire flight. They had to sit with their legs spread apart in order to fit in their seat and their sheer size had them sitting so far forward away from the seat back that their left arm was on top of my r... | 1,487,200,382 | chrislstark | ddsql3t | ddsolqt | 317 | 16 |
CMV: assuming we live in a simulation, I am the only conscious being and all of my friends, family etc are not conscious
Christof Koch is the worlds best known consciousness researcher. He believes in integrated information theory and said the following:
"consciousness is a property of complex systems that have a pa... | If we live in a simulation, then there is likely some reason for that simulation. Someone decided to create it, or something like that. Clearly the purpose requires at least one consciousness, because you are conscious. Whether that is possible in software, needs hardware, whatever, I don't care. It requires at least o... | If there is the idea of a simulation then why would be the only one who is conscious?
It seems like there could be multiple people all plugged in at the same time doing our part of the sim.
If you are in the system then I'm in the system too.
The hardware is the sim. The software is in all of our brains.
We are... | 5ubplp | CMV: assuming we live in a simulation, I am the only conscious being and all of my friends, family etc are not conscious | Christof Koch is the worlds best known consciousness researcher. He believes in integrated information theory and said the following:
"consciousness is a property of complex systems that have a particular “cause-effect” repertoire. They have a particular way of interacting with the world, such as the brain does, or i... | 1,487,207,649 | Bill_Swaggin_Gates | ddsxpo6 | ddsuvsk | 6 | 1 |
CMV: PewDiePie did nothing wrong.
I will start by saying that I am personally not a fan of PewDiePie. I think he's a good person, but do not enjoy his content.
If you're unaware of the current controversy surrounding PewDiePie, [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtxXKezbQ9w) is a link to the video in question. I ... | I think PDP isn't some kind of nazi
Now, that aside, I think he's a major idiot. Or at least this particular action was extremely dumb
No matter how much he is trying to become something else, he's majorly a kids celebrity. Case in point, he is (was) sponsored by freaking Disney
Kids do not get high level sarcastic... | i'm just going to address the free speech thing. you have the right to free speech but you don't have a right to avoid the consequences of your speech. the government can't oppress you for anything you say, but if you say something or do something reprehensible people are absolutely free to judge you for it.
it might ... | 5ubt6d | CMV: PewDiePie did nothing wrong. | I will start by saying that I am personally not a fan of PewDiePie. I think he's a good person, but do not enjoy his content.
If you're unaware of the current controversy surrounding PewDiePie, [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtxXKezbQ9w) is a link to the video in question. I would watch the whole video for con... | 1,487,208,784 | ArbitraryPotato | ddsvlxc | ddsv99o | 61 | 4 |
CMV: Depression is permanent.
This is a view I have, not of my own accord, but because everyone else says it all the time. Whenever there is an ounce of encouragement towards moving on from depression, it is quickly met with claims that no matter what, one cannot truly "beat depression".
I'm not sure if I'm depresse... | A person may be prone to depression, reinforce it with their behaviors, and stay depressed. This is common with all personality types, they tend to get exaggerated if they end up in conditions that promote whatever side of the personality spectrum they're on when it comes to the big five personality traits. Depression ... | Oh, I see. Recurrence is the subject. This is more difficult by leaps and bounds to protest, but I'll try.
I would hate to repeat any argument I've used in my last comment in this sub, but it is a matter of measurability. If it is in fact true that people that reside in underdeveloped, war-torn nations are "happier" o... | 5ueqpu | CMV: Depression is permanent. | This is a view I have, not of my own accord, but because everyone else says it all the time. Whenever there is an ounce of encouragement towards moving on from depression, it is quickly met with claims that no matter what, one cannot truly "beat depression".
I'm not sure if I'm depressed, but I have what I believe ar... | 1,487,250,069 | scarecroh | ddtg8zw | ddtg6r1 | 3 | 2 |
CMV: There is a problem in scientific academia.
Here's how much academic science works:
"We did a study but the null hypothesis was confirmed."
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"We did a study but the null hypothesis was confirmed."
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"We did a stud... | You're only talking about medicine here. Science is so much more.
I'm a physicist and more than 90% of the physics studies is reproduced at least once. Whenever we use a new piece of equipment we reproduce an experiment to confirm that our equipment is working correctly.
This means that results like you describe wou... | With funding there is a ton of incentive to publish data no matter what the findings are - first because more publications = more funding (not to mention publish or perish), second becasue you need to be able to prove to the source of the funding that you didn't piss away their money, and third because if you are doing... | 5uf9o4 | CMV: There is a problem in scientific academia. |
Here's how much academic science works:
"We did a study but the null hypothesis was confirmed."
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"We did a study but the null hypothesis was confirmed."
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"We did a study but the null hypothesis was confirmed."
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<trash... | 1,487,255,590 | I_HUG_TREEZ | ddtk91g | ddtj9i8 | 22 | 7 |
CMV: Anti-abortion activists don't actually believe abortion is murder
Let me preface by saying that I don't think the majority of the forced birth movement is actively and deliberately lying, I'm sure most of them think they think abortion is murder and they'd be genuinely shocked and offended at my suggestion that t... | I am going to respond to the your argument about the group of people who don't support free contraception due because they believe premarital sex is wrong. Looking at your argument it seems to be that:
1. Some people think abortion is murder.
2. These same people don't support free contraception, because they think pr... | 1. not having a sex is an even better form of contraception than those you've put forward. While it might be unrealistic to get people to abstain, but lets not strawman the position of the fascists (oops) who promote pro-life and no sexual education. The best form of birth control is no sex, period. They do indeed p... | 5ufocp | CMV: Anti-abortion activists don't actually believe abortion is murder | Let me preface by saying that I don't think the majority of the forced birth movement is actively and deliberately lying, I'm sure most of them think they think abortion is murder and they'd be genuinely shocked and offended at my suggestion that they're being dishonest. But, nevertheless, I think they're being dishone... | 1,487,259,311 | sotonohito | ddto5zm | ddtno0i | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Donald Trump's wall will lead to higher food prices and a more dangerous drug problem
This is a topic I've though a lot about and I cannot get past this problem. First, let me preface by saying I do believe a wall, if properly implemented, would indeed severely restrict illegal immigration and drugs into the U.S... | Food prices in the US are not dictated by a free market. The government subsidizes the production of nearly every food you eat.
Food prices will be whatever Trump and Congress want them to be, as a result of the Farm Bill, and regardless of the wall. There is no type of food grown in Mexico that cannot be grown in t... | You forget that Mexican cartels don't supply every drug to the US, and also there is still smuggling by plane and boat. (and even across the border, with the wall). | 5ufu98 | CMV: Donald Trump's wall will lead to higher food prices and a more dangerous drug problem | This is a topic I've though a lot about and I cannot get past this problem. First, let me preface by saying I do believe a wall, if properly implemented, would indeed severely restrict illegal immigration and drugs into the U.S. I say this with the benefit of some experience; I spent 6 months deployed on the U.S/New ... | 1,487,260,809 | protekt0r | ddtsgkf | ddto31w | 236 | 16 |
CMV: People should not do their Lotto at Gas Stations
I am Canadian, and in Canada you can purchase Lotto tickets at Gas stations, drug stores, convenience stores and several other select locations.
What drives me nuts is how many people go into a gas station and hold up the line so they can spend 5 min doing the... | You don't have "pay at the pump" gas pumps in Canada?
I don't remember the last time I had to walk into the gas station to pay for gas.
Also, in U.S. we have lotto machines, like these: http://imgur.com/a/8B4RU that free up clerks.
I think the best solution to your problems is technology: pay-at-the-pump and lottery... | I do agree that the lotto should be allowed at gas stations and such, but the argument of the lotto helping pay for state funded programs doesn't hold up very well. While it does provide SOME benefit, not all of it is exactly used to help the tax payers. John Oliver had a really good segment on this on his show: https:... | 5ufwnr | CMV: People should not do their Lotto at Gas Stations | I am Canadian, and in Canada you can purchase Lotto tickets at Gas stations, drug stores, convenience stores and several other select locations.
What drives me nuts is how many people go into a gas station and hold up the line so they can spend 5 min doing their Lotto. When I get gas, I want to run in, pay, and... | 1,487,261,393 | Chewyman11 | ddtrcyv | ddtozx5 | 6 | 3 |
CMV: Bodily autonomy is not a valid defence of abortion
I would absolutely **love** for my view to be changed on this, and I am in no way bigoted about abortion. I am on the 'left' of many political issues, and I hold John Stuart Mill's harm principle as a fundamental aspect of my beliefs; 'the only purpose for which ... | That isn't a directly comparable situation unless you perceive **inaction** and **action** as morally equal. This also isn't a comparable situation because it doesn't deal with autonomy in the same way.
Abortion is a conscious, intentional action which actively prevents someone from living (if you believe fetuses to ... | If my sister needed a blood transfusion and would die without it, and I was the *only matching donor on earth*, I could not be forced to donate. People might think I'm a jerk for refusing, but my right to bodily autonomy cannot be violated to save another life.
This is true for human beings who have already been born,... | 5ugcel | CMV: Bodily autonomy is not a valid defence of abortion | I would absolutely **love** for my view to be changed on this, and I am in no way bigoted about abortion. I am on the 'left' of many political issues, and I hold John Stuart Mill's harm principle as a fundamental aspect of my beliefs; 'the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a ci... | 1,487,265,289 | awolz | ddtr8w7 | ddtqyxw | 22 | 10 |
CMV: Having an event like "Brown Girls Yoga" is inherently racist and exclusionary
At my university, I saw a poster asking for a Brown Girls Yoga event, which was advertised for any self-identifying black, indigenous, or people of colour. Does this not sound incredibly racist?
If you replaced the term brown with whit... | OP, yes. It's racist. But everyone is racist. To recognize race in the first place means that you possess the ability to lump people together in groups based on speech patterns, skin color, economic status, employment status, clothing, hair, etc etc. People form self-identity through these groups. They find comfort. If... | I think the idea is that non-white people are often the minority in a lot of different settings in western society, especially if the university itself is mostly white. This type of thing creates an opportunity to take part in an activity without always being the minority. Social situations like these can be difficult ... | 5uhnzn | CMV: Having an event like "Brown Girls Yoga" is inherently racist and exclusionary | At my university, I saw a poster asking for a Brown Girls Yoga event, which was advertised for any self-identifying black, indigenous, or people of colour. Does this not sound incredibly racist?
If you replaced the term brown with white, it's undeniable that this would spark controversy and be regarded as inherently r... | 1,487,277,378 | CookiePoster | dducchs | ddu4aw6 | 5 | 2 |
CMV: The gay couple that sued the florist in Washington was being petty and vindictive
For those of you who don't know, I'm referring to [this case](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/9d74931fffe14c0ea511c51cc3cf0c90/washington-court-rules-against-florist-gay-wedding-case).
I agree with the ruling of the court. They corr... | There are two suits here, consolidated into one by the court. The first suit was the civil suit brought by Ingersoll. Presumably you've got no problems with the second suit (the consumer protection suit) brought by the State of Washington for violating RCW 49.60.215. In the civil suit, the plaintiffs asked for the foll... | The point of this case isn't so much that this particular florist didn't want to work with the couple. There are plenty of florists. However, after the Supreme Court ruling affirming gay marriage, there was a lot of confusion about what that would mean for private and religious organizations in states that hadn't had g... | 5uhoj1 | CMV: The gay couple that sued the florist in Washington was being petty and vindictive | For those of you who don't know, I'm referring to [this case](http://bigstory.ap.org/article/9d74931fffe14c0ea511c51cc3cf0c90/washington-court-rules-against-florist-gay-wedding-case).
I agree with the ruling of the court. They correctly applied the law. However, I think that it's sad that this couple felt like they ha... | 1,487,277,522 | albinododobird | ddu4w9q | ddu380d | 13 | 3 |
CMV: Peaceful demonstration does not affect government policy
It does not appear to me that the government makes policy based on the number of people to show up to a protest.
Nor are they influenced by hashtag activism, petitions, sit-ins, highway shut down, general strikes.
None of these methods seem to really ge... | [The DAPL protestors were successful in getting the Obama administration to stop progress and explore alternate routes.](https://news.vice.com/story/obama-administration-stops-dakota-access-pipeline-in-historic-decision)
Granted, President Trump came in and reversed the decision. But they had a brief impact, nonethel... | Both of those guys likely very much disagreed with Trump in private, but with public protests being so widespread and well received gave them room to criticize Trump publicly that they wouldn't have had otherwise. | 5uht50 | CMV: Peaceful demonstration does not affect government policy | It does not appear to me that the government makes policy based on the number of people to show up to a protest.
Nor are they influenced by hashtag activism, petitions, sit-ins, highway shut down, general strikes.
None of these methods seem to really get the desired results.
At best they seem like a cathartic and ... | 1,487,278,718 | TomBakerFTW | ddu5zxb | ddu53qu | 12 | 2 |
CMV: As our world trends towards automation, our period of peace and globalism will end.
It just doesn't make sense for us to be as economically tied to each other as we are today, and I think that eventually as countries develop (both already developed and developing), and it becomes more viable to bring manufacturin... | War before the 20th century could be used to gain resources because it could be won without massive destruction of the enemies resources.
On the other hand, industrialised warfare, between countries of similar power is extremely destructive, and even more so with the existence of nuclear weapons.
This still leaves u... | NATO has a requirement of 2% of your GDP being spent on your military. There are not suppose to be any passive members.
As automation improves need for war will reduce, as long as we care for the people in our countries who are unemployed. | 5ujnxn | CMV: As our world trends towards automation, our period of peace and globalism will end. | It just doesn't make sense for us to be as economically tied to each other as we are today, and I think that eventually as countries develop (both already developed and developing), and it becomes more viable to bring manufacturing back with automation, war will once again become a good option for gaining resources, wh... | 1,487,298,379 | AmIMikeScore | ddujsy2 | dduj76z | 3 | 1 |
CMV: There is no reason to pursue a career
I am a seventeen-year-old male and I don't think there is any reason to get a job or pursue a career. This is for three reasons.
The first is that it won't give me anything I desire. I am perfectly fine living on almost nothing. I did a calculation of my future costs and fo... | Have you lived outside your parents' home for any length of time? I ask because I knew people at that age who expressed the same opinion, and there were two outcomes: 1) immediately realized they'd made a mistake and applied themselves towards education or work, or 2) prison or death.
I've never heard of anyone in th... | >I am a seventeen-year-old male...
The first is that it won't give me anything I desire. I am perfectly fine living on almost nothing. I did a calculation of my future costs and found that they are well within the range of what I will be getting for welfare so I see no reason to try and get a job to pay bills.
You're... | 5ukljk | CMV: There is no reason to pursue a career | I am a seventeen-year-old male and I don't think there is any reason to get a job or pursue a career. This is for three reasons.
The first is that it won't give me anything I desire. I am perfectly fine living on almost nothing. I did a calculation of my future costs and found that they are well within the range of w... | 1,487,311,324 | Blood_tree | ddurc2v | ddur1g9 | 24 | 5 |
CMV: Holocaust jokes, rightly or wrongly, are considered taboo and/or offensive. Gula, Kulak, and Soviet purge/mass killing jokes should be treated with the same idea of offence and taboo.
I don't want to directly compare the mass killings of Stalin with Hitler, it's unfair to say if one is worse than the other, they ... | Okay, so, in fairness, #1 was definitely my first thought when I read the thread title. I'm still going with that argument, but hopefully in a more nuanced form that addresses your problems with it.
Also: I am not arguing, seriously or facetiously, that Stalin did nothing wrong. He was a murderous, paranoid tyrant. He... | Offense is culturally constructed and is not just about the severity of the dark event. Most Holocaust jokes are mean spirited and usually the punch line is the killing of Jews. Gulag jokes were a means of survival and of resistance to the Gulags. The punchline is usually about the absurdity. There's a reason Jews ... | 5ullzw | CMV: Holocaust jokes, rightly or wrongly, are considered taboo and/or offensive. Gula, Kulak, and Soviet purge/mass killing jokes should be treated with the same idea of offence and taboo. | I don't want to directly compare the mass killings of Stalin with Hitler, it's unfair to say if one is worse than the other, they both committed atrocities that are shameful and leave a deep and disturbing scar on humanity, but the fact of the matter is Stalin actively set out to eliminate an entire class of people; th... | 1,487,330,403 | ohrightthatswhy | dduya98 | dduxt5q | 105 | 7 |
CMV: Tau is greater than pi
For the uninitiated, read [The Tau Manifesto](https://tauday.com/tau-manifesto). The [parable](https://tauday.com/a-parable) is also amusing and illustrative.
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I believe that tau is the logical choice for a circle constant, not pi. A circle's essential feature is its radius, not its di... | I've heard this argument a lot, and while I believe that you do make good on some of the standard arguments for tau, I think there are a few things that you really need to consider with regards to this transition.
> Some mathematicians will say that, for any meaningful math, it doesn't matter if the constant differs ... | But the normal distribution is less fundamental. It's just a normalization of the Gaussian integral.
Key here are the fundamental relations between numbers and functions. If you derive something for a particular situation the pi or tau debate depends on the situation. But for fundamental equations like this, it is cle... | 5umbwz | CMV: Tau is greater than pi | For the uninitiated, read [The Tau Manifesto](https://tauday.com/tau-manifesto). The [parable](https://tauday.com/a-parable) is also amusing and illustrative.
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I believe that tau is the logical choice for a circle constant, not pi. A circle's essential feature is its radius, not its diameter, and the circle consta... | 1,487,341,094 | YahwehTheDevil | ddv5nyi | ddv4wbf | 10 | 4 |
CMV: No symbols should ever be banned.
No one owns a symbol, no matter what they do, because a symbol is just an idea, and ideas by definition, don't physically exist. See the swastika, for example, it should never had been banned anywhere, this was just done to pander to the feelings of the people. There is no logica... | >because a symbol is just an idea, and ideas by definition, don't physically exist.
Ah but they persist! Sure if you drop a nazi flag into a caveman's hands he won't know what it means, but it will always be intrinsically linked to the history behind the people who USED that symbol to mean something. That's not emotio... | >This is sad
Well yes, but it is the world we live in.
>what happens if by coincidence someone just uses the same symbol
Well that depends on how the law banning them is structured, the one in germany has exceptions for art where that could possibly fall under, but regardless, this is why you have a justice system a... | 5umy6d | CMV: No symbols should ever be banned. | No one owns a symbol, no matter what they do, because a symbol is just an idea, and ideas by definition, don't physically exist. See the swastika, for example, it should never had been banned anywhere, this was just done to pander to the feelings of the people. There is no logical reasons to ban any symbol just emotion... | 1,487,347,962 | Garlicplanet | ddvduq8 | ddvcuzm | 4 | 3 |
CMV: Pro LGBT kids shows like Steven's Universe don't "challenge" kids because they don't really have a set worldview to challenge.
To me, for a piece of art to be "challenging," it has to contradict some deeply held, seemingly steadfast belief held by the audience. Shows from the 90's, when gay marriage was still a b... | A massive amount of LGBT people never realized they were anything but cis and/or straight because it was flat out never presented as something it was possible for them to be. Even if they knew gay or trans people existed, they never internalized that they could be one of them.
As you say, kids are accepting. So if th... | > To me, for a piece of art to be "challenging," it has to contradict some deeply held, seemingly steadfast belief held by the audience.
There's more than one way for something to be challenging. Why can't it be challenging to understand or appreciate? I don't think it needs to challenge existing beliefs specifically... | 5un5zj | CMV: Pro LGBT kids shows like Steven's Universe don't "challenge" kids because they don't really have a set worldview to challenge. | To me, for a piece of art to be "challenging," it has to contradict some deeply held, seemingly steadfast belief held by the audience. Shows from the 90's, when gay marriage was still a big debate, or not even a concept entertained, when they put on a pro LGBT episode for an adult audience, that was "challenging," that... | 1,487,350,180 | furutam | ddvdl42 | ddvd9g1 | 38 | 6 |
CMV: Virtual Reality is not the future of how Video Games will be played
VR is cool in concept but its implementation has been rather lackluster. There have been some interesting games and exploration of new ways to interact with virtual worlds.
The problem is that the current VR headsets we have (Playstation VR, Oc... | It isn't *the* future but it is *a* future.
I doubt it will completely replace non-VR games, but neither did 3-d games completely replace 2-d games. Most likely it will be an increasing part of the market, but people will still want "traditional" video games. To imply it's going away entirely is misguided: the tech ke... | While VR may not be the only way we play video games in the future, it might be one of the ways we do so. I can see it being used for things like interactive horror movies, which would be fun. | 5unig2 | CMV: Virtual Reality is not the future of how Video Games will be played | VR is cool in concept but its implementation has been rather lackluster. There have been some interesting games and exploration of new ways to interact with virtual worlds.
The problem is that the current VR headsets we have (Playstation VR, Oculus Rift, HTC Vive) aren't quite up to snuff and not worth the price of e... | 1,487,353,683 | MSUfan918 | ddvrzbi | ddvr84g | 17 | 4 |
CMV: If humanity colonizes other planets, it should bring as many world religions with it as possible.
As humanity marches into the future, the possibility of colonizing other planets is an important goal.
When and if humanity does manage to colonize other planets, we should do our best to adapt world religions to sp... | Does this include Scientology? How about Heaven's Gate? Flying Spaghetti Monster?
Do you literally mean "as many as possible", or are there caveats to that? | All religions, not only christianity/catholicism, have been ways to investigate grand mysteries. But out of all of them, christianity is by far the least effective. Even roman gods did a better job of touching on all of those things. There is zero philosophy in most religions, and culture is inevitable no matter what y... | 5uo1ma | CMV: If humanity colonizes other planets, it should bring as many world religions with it as possible. | As humanity marches into the future, the possibility of colonizing other planets is an important goal.
When and if humanity does manage to colonize other planets, we should do our best to adapt world religions to space colonization. The reason for this is that religions are key components of human lifestyle. Religion ... | 1,487,359,031 | Mitoza | ddw8dnu | ddvqj2h | 1 | 0 |
CMV: Universal Basic Income is a bad idea because relying on the government to survive is degeneracy.
I see people everywherr espousing the upsides of a UBI to support people who are losing their jobs to automation etc.
With the speed of technological innovation it seems to be almost inevitable that some form of ubi ... | > What happens if suddenly the payments cannot be provided? Would the government need to take on debt, effectively stealing from the next generation?
This is already an issue. What would happen if suddenly the government couldn't pay for medicaid? It seems like opposing something because "country-wide financial catast... | Not a Bernie guy but I do have some thoughts you may find relevant.
First, near full automation of work is coming. When machines do almost all jobs better and faster than humans at lower cost, having humans work makes no sense. People have no jobs, can't get any, and therefore have no money. Economy crashes becau... | 5upzma | CMV: Universal Basic Income is a bad idea because relying on the government to survive is degeneracy. | I see people everywherr espousing the upsides of a UBI to support people who are losing their jobs to automation etc.
With the speed of technological innovation it seems to be almost inevitable that some form of ubi will be introduced somewhere in the world in the near future (in fact places like South Africa seem to ... | 1,487,380,731 | JoonGoose | ddwhijr | ddwftek | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Modern Art Schools are Ugly and Dehumanizing
A common theme with a great majority of pre-modern artistic classics is that they showcase talent and dedication to the craft, often via the glorification of human beauty, intelligence and exceptionalism, amoung other innately admirable qualities. Greco-Roman statues g... | Unfortunately Art is subjective and that will be the excuse on why they don't have to master their craft.
I don't agree that Art should glorify the most admirable qualities of humanity though. That becomes a debate of is Humanity "Good" or "Evil" and it's neither. How can humanity think, reflect, learn and grow if t... | Edit: Schools of thought not art schools, got it. Ignore a third of my points.
Your title and conclusion have nothing to do with each other. If you can't even get your message straight what are we supposed to be talking about? You don't actually critique or seem to understand what art schools do or what going to on... | 5uso5w | CMV: Modern Art Schools are Ugly and Dehumanizing | A common theme with a great majority of pre-modern artistic classics is that they showcase talent and dedication to the craft, often via the glorification of human beauty, intelligence and exceptionalism, amoung other innately admirable qualities. Greco-Roman statues glorified the perfection of the human physique, rena... | 1,487,428,433 | yalyhoom | ddwlovn | ddwks0h | 14 | 4 |
CMV: There is nothing inherently wrong with capital punishment
If the state can already subjugate a criminal to a life in prison, I don't see why it shouldn't have the right to end their life if decided. This is pretty much my entire argument but I'll clarify my position:
* Whenever a post on reddit discusses this i... | >*Whenever a post on reddit discusses this issue, some posters often go for the appeal to emotion saying "its not part of a civilized society". I don't think this really holds because it does not say what about it makes it uncivil.
Then I'll say what it makes it uncivil: Human rights. The idea of human rights is that ... | You don't ever describe what you count as heinous, and that definition in itself can have drastically different outcomes especially when it comes down to people judging people for something like this. For example, would you count homosexuality as heinous? If you don't, someone else may. There would be no true consensus... | 5utlsk | CMV: There is nothing inherently wrong with capital punishment | If the state can already subjugate a criminal to a life in prison, I don't see why it shouldn't have the right to end their life if decided. This is pretty much my entire argument but I'll clarify my position:
* Whenever a post on reddit discusses this issue, some posters often go for the appeal to emotion saying "it... | 1,487,440,132 | mosesh | ddwrtrt | ddwqr47 | 6 | 2 |
CMV: The true perilous consequence of Donald Trump's presidency will not come now. It will come after he leaves.
For example:
As we all know, Donald Trump has recently called the mainstream media America's enemy. And as we also all know, their was a substantial bit of outrage that stemmed from those comments.
Now I'... | > The stereotype of the mainstream media jumping to conclusions and embellishing stories didn't just come out of nowhere. This has been going on for a while.
You're right: it came from decades of conservative talk radio. This is a clever talking point that feels emotionally true because of the hostile media effect. ... | >That's what I fear the most right now: After the Trump administration leaves office, whether it's sooner or later, they will leave behind in their stead a bunch of subjects, beliefs, viewpoints and standpoints that can no longer be touched, because they have become irradiated and untouchable by what this current admin... | 5uup0p | CMV: The true perilous consequence of Donald Trump's presidency will not come now. It will come after he leaves. | For example:
As we all know, Donald Trump has recently called the mainstream media America's enemy. And as we also all know, their was a substantial bit of outrage that stemmed from those comments.
Now I'm not a Trump supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but the thing is, **that belief, in and of itself, isn'... | 1,487,452,807 | NappyFlickz | ddx2tag | ddwz82b | 7 | 2 |
CMV: It's racist to treat black people using the word "Nigger" different than white people doing the same.
Let's first look at the definition of the word "racist" (found [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism)):
"Racism is discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity."
Now, to un... | You could argue that it's discrimination, but that alone doesn't make it racist. Racism implies an intent to demean, insult or belittle someone based on their race.
When a white person uses that term to refer to a black person, it is almost always done with racist intentions. As a result people assume that's what you ... | Black people can say it because it's a word with historical context that has been used to discriminate against them. White people cannot use the word because they are the ones who have historically used it to discriminate black people.
There is nothing here being used against white people, or advantage black people. W... | 5uutr2 | CMV: It's racist to treat black people using the word "Nigger" different than white people doing the same. | Let's first look at the definition of the word "racist" (found [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism)):
"Racism is discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity."
Now, to understand my view we also have to look at the definition of the word "discrimination" (found [here](https://e... | 1,487,454,394 | BlitzBasic | ddx0jgu | ddx0g35 | 18 | 1 |
CMV: As FLOTUS, Melania should help sponsor and champion the Amber Rose SlutWalk
What is the Amber Rose SlutWalk?
http://amberroseslutwalk.com/
This is the US version of the SlutWalk movement that started back in 2011. Basically, it rejects the theory that women who dress "like sluts" deserve to be victimized. The... | No one did seem to challenge your point so I will give it a shot.
First off, while I understand that the issues of the movement are honorable selling a first lady, a first lady married to a republican no less, on supporting something called the "SlutWalk" is going to be a hard. The movement is not a wholesome family ... | Why would it be desirable for the First Lady to support a movement that is trying to change things that don't exist prominently or aren't a problem?
> Basically, it rejects the theory that women who dress "like sluts" deserve to be victimized.
No one sane actually believes that. What people believe is that there a... | 5uv9ib | CMV: As FLOTUS, Melania should help sponsor and champion the Amber Rose SlutWalk | What is the Amber Rose SlutWalk?
http://amberroseslutwalk.com/
This is the US version of the SlutWalk movement that started back in 2011. Basically, it rejects the theory that women who dress "like sluts" deserve to be victimized. They march for Gender Equality, Women Empowerment, Ending Rape Culture, Ending Body S... | 1,487,459,690 | Caddan | ddxj9bc | ddx6aty | 5 | 1 |
CMV: Labels should never be given to a person. The terms Gay, Straight, etc. should not exist.
Sexuality is only more confusing when you attach some kind of word to it. Calling someone gay means they only like people of the same sex. What happens if they change one day and find a person of the opposite sex attractive?... | How about this. I am asexual, and knew I was asexual since I was about twelve years old. But the thing is, I didn't have a term for it. I thought there was something wrong with me. Most people experience some form of sexual attraction. If there was no such thing as labels, I never would have known that not experiencing... | I don't think you're implying that every individual has an equal likelihood to be attracted to a member of the same sex. I also don't think you're implying that there aren't identifiable clusters: that is, a group of people who are far more likely to be attracted to the same sex, and a group of people far more likely ... | 5uvc47 | CMV: Labels should never be given to a person. The terms Gay, Straight, etc. should not exist. | Sexuality is only more confusing when you attach some kind of word to it. Calling someone gay means they only like people of the same sex. What happens if they change one day and find a person of the opposite sex attractive?
As unlikely as the above may sound, the same can be said for people that are called straight. ... | 1,487,460,613 | Detective_Hacc | ddx4vqs | ddx4bl7 | 23 | 3 |
CMV: There's an insane sexual deprivation problem in our current society and it's time we embrace and face it
Me being a male in the mid twenties, I get to openly discuss with several men of different age groups, frankly speaking sex or girls in a general sense never ceases to be part of a conversation among men, that... | I would argue that the problem that you are alluding to has much less to do with sex, and much more to do with touch. The problem isn't that men aren't getting enough sex, but rather our society places things like touch as solely in the realm of romantic relationship, which deprives so many of us getting the kind of so... | The part of your view I would challenge is that you seem to think this is a new phenomena, only happening in ''current'' society - but it has been part of human history as far back as we know of.
Also, ''sexual deprivation'' has nothing to do with it - if a predator simply wanted sex, they could pay a prostitute. They... | 5uviff | CMV: There's an insane sexual deprivation problem in our current society and it's time we embrace and face it | Me being a male in the mid twenties, I get to openly discuss with several men of different age groups, frankly speaking sex or girls in a general sense never ceases to be part of a conversation among men, that being said, I assume any person that has access to any form of media hears everyday stories about child molest... | 1,487,462,890 | tmaxletitgo | ddx6wkb | ddx6b8f | 28 | 20 |
CMV: Universal Income wouldn't work because of a lack of night workers
Universal Basic Income is meant to free us to pursue more creative streams of life, work for a better standard of living and help those who no longer have an industry to work in. Working nights, sometimes with strange shift patterns, is essential i... | Because night shift would still be better than nothing.
A lot of people who work nights, like working nights. Either because night shift tends to be longer hours meaning you work fewer shifts per week, or because night shift offers better pay. Or just because they are night owls.
The argument of "why would anyone wor... | Well, it is only universal *basic* income, so nighttime employees may receive a premium. There are much better arguments that show UBI isn't a good idea. | 5uw2lr | CMV: Universal Income wouldn't work because of a lack of night workers | Universal Basic Income is meant to free us to pursue more creative streams of life, work for a better standard of living and help those who no longer have an industry to work in. Working nights, sometimes with strange shift patterns, is essential if you want something 24/7; but it is harmful for workers. If anyone can ... | 1,487,470,305 | garete | ddxaupy | ddxajnh | 11 | 1 |
CMV: Meat should be taxed, and the revenue should go towards subsidizing grains and vegetables.
I have eaten meat all my life, and was raised in rural Ohio and then in rural Texas. I really liked it, and up until several months ago I was eating bacon, eggs, and steak for breakfast all the time. I went vegan when it oc... | Lots, e.g. quinoa, amaranth, rice. I would even suggest this tax isn't so limited in scope to what I specifically referred to (grains and vegetables) so much as plant based food. I recall reading somewhere that lower income families are the main consumers of fast food. Starches may be pretty cheap, but for a family of ... | It's not really about whether your diet is acceptable or not. We are discussing a legitimate moral principle, whether or not killing a sentient being for an unnecessary reason is justified. You cannot claim that there are universal moral standards, but that we also lack universal standards. Do you hold to the belief th... | 5uwcr4 | CMV: Meat should be taxed, and the revenue should go towards subsidizing grains and vegetables. | I have eaten meat all my life, and was raised in rural Ohio and then in rural Texas. I really liked it, and up until several months ago I was eating bacon, eggs, and steak for breakfast all the time. I went vegan when it occurred to me that my meals became more interesting and delicious, and my body felt really good af... | 1,487,474,310 | the_magic_gardener | ddxf8s0 | ddxeri0 | 4 | 0 |
CMV: Obesity should not be shown in movies/TV shows that have a young audience, due to it normalising unhealthy lifestyles.
Smoking has been banned from being shown in children's shows and advertisements. The reason for this is that it's a ludicrously unhealthy habit and only encourages more people to smoke. I truly t... | The biggest issue is we do need to normalize it to an extent to where children do not start harassing others that are obese. The more we pretend obese children do not exist, the less we teach children how to act. Children that otherwise have not seen an obese child might prove to have negative effects when allowed to ... | There are a few important differences in the comparison of smoking to putting people who are above average weight on the screen. For one smoking was depicted as cool, being fat is not seen as cool, it's at best seen as neutral and at worst becomes a feature of ridicule or makes the characters stereotyped into the 'fun... | 5uwjoz | CMV: Obesity should not be shown in movies/TV shows that have a young audience, due to it normalising unhealthy lifestyles. | Smoking has been banned from being shown in children's shows and advertisements. The reason for this is that it's a ludicrously unhealthy habit and only encourages more people to smoke. I truly think these attempts to cut smoking out of the media helps with lowering the smoking rate.
In that same vein, should we not d... | 1,487,477,250 | sverigesail | ddxkv7z | ddxftpe | 71 | 30 |
CMV: "If the service is free, you are the product" is easily evaded by individual, consumer-based choices
There is a phrase I have been seeing frequently recently regarding social media platforms: "If the service is free, you are the product." My argument is basically that "being the product" is very easily avoided on... | I wouldn't assume that companies like Facebook are making their money through sponsored ads. They do have sponsored ads, but that's a small part of what they do. Facebook sells your information to other companies which use that information out-of-band (i.e., outside of Facebook).
One big trend happening right now in t... | I would argue (from more of a general understanding and a sense of intuition, so take with a grain of salt) that "you are the product" can more closely fit to the model that free services like Facebook use option 3 as a byproduct of the larger endeavor: the sale of your privacy.
Privacy is something our generation is... | 5uxl35 | CMV: "If the service is free, you are the product" is easily evaded by individual, consumer-based choices | There is a phrase I have been seeing frequently recently regarding social media platforms: "If the service is free, you are the product." My argument is basically that "being the product" is very easily avoided on the individual based level. The way I currently see it, there are only 3 ways in which the consumer can be... | 1,487,497,367 | Melkovar | ddy9dd0 | ddy0dla | 3 | 2 |
CMV: As a trans person I believe that current trans activism has completely lost the plot. They will lose much of the public debate they choose to engage in due to their overly radical agenda.
My argument is largely philosophical so it's somewhat malleable and I legitimately would like yo see it changed. I would prefe... | Most people believe there is an unchangeable essence of what it means to be male or female. If we could step into a machine to change our chromosomes from XY to XX (as pointeless as that would be), they would simply move the goalpost to exclude us from being accepted as female (this can already be seen in the people t... | I agree with everything you've said but, for the sake of argument, I'm going to try my best to string together the strongest counter arguement I can think of against both our positions.
So I always hear people say that there are only two genders/sexes. This is the traditional definition, there being only two sexes, ho... | 5uyc20 | CMV: As a trans person I believe that current trans activism has completely lost the plot. They will lose much of the public debate they choose to engage in due to their overly radical agenda. | My argument is largely philosophical so it's somewhat malleable and I legitimately would like yo see it changed. I would prefer to believe in and support current trans activism whole-heartedly but far too often find myself shaking my head instead. There's a few points on which I base my contention:
~~**As a trans woma... | 1,487,512,635 | Osricthebastard | ddy09kj | ddxsq57 | 124 | 4 |
CMV: Trump is just doing exactly what he was voted in to do and being hindered by the public
Recently I've seen a lot of news articles about Trump's executive order and how judges aren't allowing it to be followed. I'm not a Trump supporter myself, nor even an American but in his campaign he said he would do radical t... | I agree that Trump is trying to follow up on campaign promises. However, to say that he "was voted in to do [that]" is flawed reasoning.
Some people may have voted for him simply because they were voting on party lines—he ran as a Republican. Some people may have voted for him simply because they disliked Clinton. Som... | 231 million people were eligible to vote in the election (this is not the number of registered voters but rather everyone that could have registered) and of those people, about 63 million voted for Trump. That's obviously less than the 66 million that voted for Clinton, but that's almost beside the point here: a little... | 5uywsn | CMV: Trump is just doing exactly what he was voted in to do and being hindered by the public | Recently I've seen a lot of news articles about Trump's executive order and how judges aren't allowing it to be followed. I'm not a Trump supporter myself, nor even an American but in his campaign he said he would do radical things like this; it was clear that he wanted to slow down or even stop immigration selectively... | 1,487,520,696 | I_Adze | ddxyz38 | ddxxd4w | 105 | 10 |
CMV: Disney (and similar large, multinational entertainment businesses) ruin the spirit of filmmaking by putting profit over creativity.
I think that corporations such as Disney, Pixar, etc. largely ruin what I feel films should be intended for - inspiration, emotion, personal development, etc. - by placing profit ove... | There's a few things to keep in mind here:
* Profit isn't a bad thing. It ensures that the creators have a salary, budget for future films, and stability for a company.
* Making a film can be incredibly expensive, especially in the realm of animation
* Disney is a business of franchises and character development, no... | Where is this spiritual foundation of filmmaking coming from?
Filmmaking was NEVER like literature or painting, that a single starving artist could do it for the art's sake.
The movie industry *was always an industry*, it always needed massive funding to produce a project, even relatively humble indie films have bu... | 5uzd31 | CMV: Disney (and similar large, multinational entertainment businesses) ruin the spirit of filmmaking by putting profit over creativity. | I think that corporations such as Disney, Pixar, etc. largely ruin what I feel films should be intended for - inspiration, emotion, personal development, etc. - by placing profit over creativity.
Don't get me wrong, I don't immediately disregard every Disney film there is; I love *Zootopia* and even moderate /r/BoltTh... | 1,487,526,020 | lupusfur | ddy3rsv | ddy2xxh | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Having children or putting a child up for adoption is selfish
Basically, I believe giving a child up for adoption is the most selfish act (they are put into the over-crowded foster/adoption system, and even if they are adopted they are taking that spot away from another child that could be adopted), followed by h... | Regarding adoption, it can many times be the much more sensible option. If someone is a crackhead, legally insane or would just flat out be a terrible parent-then yes adoption is the right thing to do. Even if they end up in a foster home (of which many are legally fit, it's often a misconception of the conditions in... | I maybe sort of abstractly agree of your assessment of things on a scale of self centeredness, but find it mostly meaningless in any real world situation.
Is it selfish for a someone to give a child up for adoption if they don't have access to safe abortion procedures and *know* that their situation would be unfit fo... | 5v003i | CMV: Having children or putting a child up for adoption is selfish | Basically, I believe giving a child up for adoption is the most selfish act (they are put into the over-crowded foster/adoption system, and even if they are adopted they are taking that spot away from another child that could be adopted), followed by having a child (it benefits no one but the parent, children inherentl... | 1,487,533,359 | leah128 | ddy6kym | ddy5yx6 | 7 | 3 |
CMV: Advocating for genocide of other citizens in the country should not be protected under free speech, because it is a declaration of violence.
Came up because of topical events, some dude punched a Neo-Nazi. Obviously that's illegal and should remain illegal but the irony there isn't lost on anyone.
Here's my arg... | How can you always know if someone is joking? How can the police or a judge know? Imagine someone has a dry sense of humor and uttered some would-be-inflammatory comment and was overheard by someone who had a problem with them. The person who made the joke will then have to deal with police reigning down on them as wel... | You're right to a certain extent. People shouldn't advocate for violence against any person or groups of people. But it should not be illegal. While it's been used before, I still believe it should be maintained: there are certain rights we have that should be held at all costs. Giving up one inch in the protection... | 5v0awk | CMV: Advocating for genocide of other citizens in the country should not be protected under free speech, because it is a declaration of violence. | Came up because of topical events, some dude punched a Neo-Nazi. Obviously that's illegal and should remain illegal but the irony there isn't lost on anyone.
Here's my argument: I can understand angry words over any group of people, especially in terms of countries or war and whatnot. "Defeat Hitler's Army" or any ot... | 1,487,536,754 | Ergheis | ddy8i89 | ddy886n | 10 | 6 |
CMV: Overpopulation is a prisoner's dilemma (and thus a two-child policy should be implemented)
I think that the idea that in order to prevent overpopulation any individual person should not have children or should have fewer children is not morally legitimate. In such a case the person has an obligation to have fewer... | Limiting the number of children people can have is generally not a good idea.
Look at China's one child policy, for instance. China(along with dozens of other countries) has a society which values male children higher than female children. As a result of this, widespread infanticide against female babies occurred so a... | I don't support OP's idea, but the first thing that springs to mind is a tax. | 5v17ie | CMV: Overpopulation is a prisoner's dilemma (and thus a two-child policy should be implemented) | I think that the idea that in order to prevent overpopulation any individual person should not have children or should have fewer children is not morally legitimate. In such a case the person has an obligation to have fewer children because someone else has had too many children. This unfairly benefits those who had ma... | 1,487,547,423 | Blood_tree | ddygbfe | ddyfu59 | 3 | 1 |
CMV: There should be a National Voter ID in the US
I've seen many discussions about the fact that the Republicans are disenfranchising the voting of minorities and the poor by requiring Voter ID or by over zealous voter roll purging. I've also seen many conjectures that there has been an epidemic of voter fraud throug... | I think the issue is that cost of this would outweigh the benefits dramatically. If voter fraud is indeed minor - as appears to be true - spending on verification is a waste of taxpayer money on something that's being politicized and isn't a problem. The solution is to a nigh non-existent problem, while the creation of... | > Someone who is working two jobs isn't going to have time to go get their national voter id- heck they may not even be able to afford the expense associated with doing so.
If they can afford the time and expense of registering to vote and/or actually voting, then the time and expense of acquiring an ID should be feas... | 5v1q84 | CMV: There should be a National Voter ID in the US | I've seen many discussions about the fact that the Republicans are disenfranchising the voting of minorities and the poor by requiring Voter ID or by over zealous voter roll purging. I've also seen many conjectures that there has been an epidemic of voter fraud throughout the country. My opinion is that there should be... | 1,487,553,923 | martinatime | ddylj88 | ddyl9l9 | 9 | 1 |
CMV: telling kids(or anyone else) "you can do anything you want if you try hard enough" is a lie and does more harm than good.
telling anyone, especially children, that they can do anything if they just work at it is a terrible lie that overall does more harm than good. i have not found any scientific studies to back ... | I don't entirely disagree with you, but I suppose I have a few points you might want to consider.
Who decides what is or isn't a realistic goal and when do they make such a decision? I don't think we can know whether a child will have the physical or mental abilities to do whatever it is they hope to do once they grow... | > Except that completely ordinary people have gone on to play in the NFL and become rocket scientists through hard work.
When I hear lottery winner stories I think to myself "for every 1 winner there are 10s of 1000s of losers".
Similar deal here. For every one ordinary person who goes on to play in the NFL there are... | 5v26np | CMV: telling kids(or anyone else) "you can do anything you want if you try hard enough" is a lie and does more harm than good. | telling anyone, especially children, that they can do anything if they just work at it is a terrible lie that overall does more harm than good. i have not found any scientific studies to back this up, but it seems obvious.
all people are not born with infinite potential that is just waiting to be developed. some peopl... | 1,487,559,623 | caine269 | ddyq1ju | ddypni5 | 5 | 0 |
CMV: Public "Creepshots" are okay
Hey, so to start off, I know that my view is considered "wrong", hence the throwaway.
My view is that if, for example, a girl wears revealing shorts in public, then there is nothing wrong with taking a picture of it.
My reasoning:
- It's okay to look with your eyes and have a "ment... | Given there are plenty of pictures online to wet (lol) one's appetite with women's consent of taking off their clothes or having their junk on proud display, it's apparent you get off to the "nonconsensual" bit.
Arguments of "I just won't get caught" or "I won't upload them online", and the victim-blaming of "you're ... | >I'm making assumptions of the subject and what he intends to do with the picture but I don't think my assumption is too far afield.
Yes. Yes it is! You're assuming the worst for no reason.
You've made several comments in this CMV, all showing a complete disdain for ... what's actually being discussed here.
No one... | 5v2bqa | CMV: Public "Creepshots" are okay | Hey, so to start off, I know that my view is considered "wrong", hence the throwaway.
My view is that if, for example, a girl wears revealing shorts in public, then there is nothing wrong with taking a picture of it.
My reasoning:
- It's okay to look with your eyes and have a "mental picture". The only difference he... | 1,487,561,457 | oji4j3vl3q4nv4n | ddz0yvl | ddywiem | 6 | 1 |
CMV: A doctor telling their patient that they need to lose weight shouldn't be considered fat shaming.
I don't believe that anyone should be shamed for their body, but I don't believe that a doctor telling a patient that losing weight will improve their health counts as fat shaming. With the exception of those who are... | I actually hadn't considered the fact that some people would be upset to hear about anything besides their exact reason for visiting, but it makes sense (not as a sensible thing to do, but as something people definitely do anyways). | Sorry, your post has been removed, seek Rule 1 in the sidebar. If you'd like to appeal, message the mod team. | 5v2sof | CMV: A doctor telling their patient that they need to lose weight shouldn't be considered fat shaming. | I don't believe that anyone should be shamed for their body, but I don't believe that a doctor telling a patient that losing weight will improve their health counts as fat shaming. With the exception of those who are forced into obesity by a health defect I believe obesity completely preventable. Honestly, it seems dow... | 1,487,567,881 | qmabs | ddyukb1 | ddytyej | 54 | 1 |
CMV: It is both desirable and possible for humans to work less for (roughly) the same income without it involving a significant reduction in quality of life.
The title is a little is a bit inelegant, but I wanted it be summarize my entire position.
My position involves the following:
* Most people could work signifi... | Thoughts:
Many professions (cashiers, security, ect) are reliant on availability. They are half as effective in half the time. You're advocating for a doubling in wages for them, which is a big bump to labor costs. Expect a lot of service businesses to go out of business if this happened, that or non-service jobs j... | > Enticing people to follow a particular career path is already a thing that happens, so I'm not sure how this would be any different.
It involves enticing people away from more lucrative, easier, and/or lower education/training jobs into more challenging fields. This doesn't work if you can get equal pay somewhere el... | 5v3v50 | CMV: It is both desirable and possible for humans to work less for (roughly) the same income without it involving a significant reduction in quality of life. | The title is a little is a bit inelegant, but I wanted it be summarize my entire position.
My position involves the following:
* Most people could work significantly less (up to a 50% decrease) and still do pretty much the same amount of work. If you work behind a desk, [there's a good chance you're only really being... | 1,487,586,690 | Yxoque | ddzjhzi | ddz67c3 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: Fundamental christians often have more anti christian political views than atheists
CMV: **Fundamental christians often have more anti christian political views than atheists**
I base my opinions on what I've seen, heard and read on reddit, other fora, the american media in general, and by following these first ... | > Pro guns: Christianity is a very passive religion. It seems that guns are a direct contradiction to many base principles in christianity, such as 'Thou shalt not kill', and just in general to turn the other cheek.
Guns are used for hunting, the bible isn't against hunting. There are other issues with this argument, ... | The problem with this View is that you haven't shown fundamental christian have these characteristics and atheists don't.
For example your first point about gun control; http://www.christianpost.com/news/most-evangelical-leaders-back-gun-control-poll-finds-88110/
> In a poll conducted by the National Association of E... | 5v4vov | CMV: Fundamental christians often have more anti christian political views than atheists | CMV: **Fundamental christians often have more anti christian political views than atheists**
I base my opinions on what I've seen, heard and read on reddit, other fora, the american media in general, and by following these first weeks of the Trump White House. There's several points where I think Christians have very ... | 1,487,601,910 | bondafong | ddz97c4 | ddz8g1b | 2 | 1 |
CMV: If you are pro-choice, there should be no circumstances in which you are against using embryonic stem cells
Abortion features the question when does life become life. Which means, does the ball of cells in my uterus count as a life. And pro-lifers say yes, pro-choicers say no. And if you say yes, then why are yo... | >Abortion features the question when does life become life. Which means, does the ball of cells in my uterus count as a life. And pro-lifers say yes, pro-choicers say no.
This is incorrect. I am pro-choice, and recognize that from the moment of fertilization, a unique life genetically different from the sperm and egg ... | >Abortion features the question when does life become life.
Not always. For a lot of pro-choice people its irrelevant due to bodily autonomy. There's also the consideration that its always life by the definition of it, but when does it become a person, which doesn't always matter to someone pro-choice either but is a ... | 5v5emi | CMV: If you are pro-choice, there should be no circumstances in which you are against using embryonic stem cells | Abortion features the question when does life become life. Which means, does the ball of cells in my uterus count as a life. And pro-lifers say yes, pro-choicers say no. And if you say yes, then why are you against not just killing the ball of cells but using it for scientific research and which could save someone's l... | 1,487,607,466 | 7oel1 | ddzcbc6 | ddzc1vj | 16 | 1 |
CMV: Putting a baby up for adoption should have a monetary reward
So currently adoptive parents are able to help the biological mother in many ways, such as living costs and food bills, but I argue that direct payment in exchange for the baby should be acceptable.
Justification:
First of all the current system is i... | This literally incentivizes people to have babies that they don't want to keep. Seems like a recipe for overpopulation, and an excessive number of babies born without a home, destined for foster homes and lives lacking in care. | > I don't subscribe to the moral principle that money should not be exchanged for people
Are you in favor of slavery? I am honestly curious, because that's the most common "money exchanged for people" agreement, far more so than adoption. | 5v5hwx | CMV: Putting a baby up for adoption should have a monetary reward | So currently adoptive parents are able to help the biological mother in many ways, such as living costs and food bills, but I argue that direct payment in exchange for the baby should be acceptable.
Justification:
First of all the current system is inefficient, there would be no need to check whether the payment is ... | 1,487,608,373 | uname1729 | ddzdzhr | ddzduzn | 15 | 5 |
CMV: The Speaker of the House should be elected by a National vote during the same election cycle as the President.
This maybe a ridiculous idea, but I am going to propose it anyway. Why can't we elect the Speaker of the House during the same election cycle for the President? Hear me out. He or she may or may not be f... | The Senate actually currently operates under a system similar to that which you propose for the House. The Vice President serves concurrently as President of the Senate, notably holding a tie-breaking vote. The Senate has designed its rules to transform the President of the Senate into a figurehead role, ensuring that ... | OK, suppose the new speaker is not of the same party as the majority of the house. The speaker determines what bills are allowed to be voted on. No legislation will be passed until the next presidental election. You seem to be uncomfortable with the fact that the speaker is a politician from a single state. He or she i... | 5v5max | CMV: The Speaker of the House should be elected by a National vote during the same election cycle as the President. | This maybe a ridiculous idea, but I am going to propose it anyway. Why can't we elect the Speaker of the House during the same election cycle for the President? Hear me out. He or she may or may not be from the same political party of the President. They would be elected on a national popular vote. This would kind of b... | 1,487,609,545 | CJL_1976 | ddzfcpt | ddzefda | 7 | 4 |
CMV: Compelled speech concerning gender identification does not benefit the speaker, the recipient, or society.
Hello there, I am looking for an argument that outlines the benefits of compelled speech when it comes to gender identification. I am looking for proof that forcing the population(P) to recognize someone(G),... | >Equating banned speech with compelled speech
I think you're making too much of this distinction. There is nothing legally unusual about "compelled speech." Here are some examples from Canadian law, courtesy of Dr. Brenda Cossman in her recent debate with Jordan Peterson:
- Bilingual labeling requirements on food pac... | >Bill C-16 along with the rest of the legislation that goes along with that will lead to compelled speech concerning identities.
I don't see anything in the text of the bill that indicates that people will be forced to use certain language. It criminalizes hate speech based on gender identity, but says nothing about p... | 5v6ch8 | CMV: Compelled speech concerning gender identification does not benefit the speaker, the recipient, or society. | Hello there, I am looking for an argument that outlines the benefits of compelled speech when it comes to gender identification. I am looking for proof that forcing the population(P) to recognize someone(G), through speech, as the person(G) portrays themselves is beneficial to any party involved.
There are already ide... | 1,487,616,475 | ReallyBigMidgets | ddzn7fl | ddzkv2e | 3 | 2 |
CMV: Men Should Have Some Say in Abortion
I will go ahead and say that I am, indeed, a pro-life woman. Going into the specifics of why and what exactly that is would take too much time, so I'm just going to say that I do believe abortion is a matter of the life and death of the unborn. I will also say that my question... | >I'm actually quite reluctant to say my opinion should be legalized or that men should be able to veto abortions.
So, what outcome are you looking for?
Men do have a say in abortion - they can give their opinion (and financial assistance). But men's bodies aren't at risk in pregnancy; the woman's is. It seems unequal... | >Still, I simply find the "no ovaries or uterus, no say" argument objectionable.
I think it's just a matter of "my body, my decision." We're generally averse, as a society, to people having direct control and ownership over each other's bodies, at least since the Emancipation Proclamation.
How would this situation yo... | 5v6o8j | CMV: Men Should Have Some Say in Abortion | I will go ahead and say that I am, indeed, a pro-life woman. Going into the specifics of why and what exactly that is would take too much time, so I'm just going to say that I do believe abortion is a matter of the life and death of the unborn. I will also say that my question and hypothetical situation is specifically... | 1,487,619,672 | Tijinga | ddzn3rw | ddzmpk4 | 11 | 2 |
CMV: Small communities should have a more democratic way of moderation.
Small communities typically do not have many people in them and a strong moderation is certainly required. But, with such little people in a small community like a small text room or a game server not allowing the members of these communities to v... | Community users do vote. They vote with their participation. If you and your moderators are literally Hitler, you won't have very many users. You have to be open minded, but you don't need to create a voting process just to try out your ideas. | Being a member of a community is not the same as running one. If I create and run a sever I should have more say than someone who is just a member becasue without me there is no server. You either play by my rules in my place or you find another place. | 5v77je | CMV: Small communities should have a more democratic way of moderation. | Small communities typically do not have many people in them and a strong moderation is certainly required. But, with such little people in a small community like a small text room or a game server not allowing the members of these communities to vote and discuss on important things like new rules is a huge imbalance in... | 1,487,624,983 | uberoverlord | ddzrtb3 | ddzqx0u | 2 | 1 |
CMV: All toilets should be unisex.
Making all toilets unisex has one very simple, clear advantage: It increases efficiency. Having two toilets that allow everybody to enter means that the time a given group of people needs to finish their businesses is always equally high or lower than the time needed with the current... | Have you ever been to a sporting event or concert where the line out the door was blocking people from coming in?
Imagine this but for a dudes/chicks bathroom. Now, the problem is, dudes can use a urinal and chicks can't. So, what happens? A bunch of urinals stay open while the line is out the door? Terribly inefficie... | Given that your main goal is efficiency, your solution should at least have a room or walled-off area with urinals. That way, everyone will be done faster, since using a urinal is much quicker by itself, and you're freeing up stalls for people who need to sit down. Plus, you're using less water, which is better for the... | 5v7ml6 | CMV: All toilets should be unisex. | Making all toilets unisex has one very simple, clear advantage: It increases efficiency. Having two toilets that allow everybody to enter means that the time a given group of people needs to finish their businesses is always equally high or lower than the time needed with the current system.
Another advantage is that ... | 1,487,629,256 | BlitzBasic | ddzurao | ddzunhq | 71 | 4 |
CMV: Everyone who is either liberal or on the left wing side of politics is either a anti war hippy that spits on the the face of veterans and abuses them or a condescending annoying insufferable 'SJW'.
Hey everyone,
Lately I've been more honest with my political opinion and realized how flawed and wrong they are. Ess... | Your view is fairly easy to disprove. I consider myself liberal, but I would never spit in the face of a veteran (Vietnam or otherwise), nor would I accuse all military service members of being a murderer. So, I'll happily serve as the official evidence to disprove your thesis.
What more can I say to convince you? ... | I'm a liberal and I'm not anti-war or a social justice warrior. I am enough proof on my own to disprove your title view, since you claimed *everyone* who is liberal or on the left which includes me.
I'm not sure what more you'd want, but feel free to ask questions if you want to verify my liberalness. | 5v88kr | CMV: Everyone who is either liberal or on the left wing side of politics is either a anti war hippy that spits on the the face of veterans and abuses them or a condescending annoying insufferable 'SJW'. | Hey everyone,
Lately I've been more honest with my political opinion and realized how flawed and wrong they are. Essentially I despise the left wing wide of politics and will go to the far or alt right just to spite the left wing even though said ideas are flawed and dangerous. Here is the background.
Im a son of a Sou... | 1,487,635,702 | Nugget93 | de02szr | de02rkg | 7 | 1 |
CMV: The recent increase of accusing the opposition of being like Hitler or being a Nazi is emotional blackmail that is insulting to the actual victims of Nazi germany
There has been a habit nowadays of people claiming that the opposing view is reminiscent of Nazi traits, or that the opposition is basically Hitler. Th... | Reminder that the Nazis were still bad guys before they committed systematic genocide. The rise of the Nazi party was historically significant because it demonstrated how a fascist leadership could arise from a Western-style democracy. Putting Hitler on a pedestal and saying that Nazi Germany was a manifestation of one... | > If that's the case then it seems like it would be quite simple to point out the flaws in their ideology.
Not if we differ on what a flaw in their ideology is. How would you go about explaining to someone that favors exterminating Jews, black people, homosexuals, and a myriad of other groups that it's wrong to do so... | 5v897g | CMV: The recent increase of accusing the opposition of being like Hitler or being a Nazi is emotional blackmail that is insulting to the actual victims of Nazi germany | There has been a habit nowadays of people claiming that the opposing view is reminiscent of Nazi traits, or that the opposition is basically Hitler. This assertion emotionally blackmails bystanders by forcing them into a position where being in support of that view is synonymous with supporting Nazi-like opinions, rega... | 1,487,635,865 | arkonum | de05ezc | de02m2h | 596 | 60 |
CMV:I don't think racism exists in society.
I'm a minority living in America, I think the hot topic in my university classes and everyone is race and how whites are oppressing us. But i think they are all just lazy shits that every time something doesn't go their way, they pull out the race card. I believe that with h... | > are there actual boundaries that i cannot overcome due to my skin color?
That's not so much what the racism we're talking about looks like anymore. There do still exist people who are overtly racist, but the "you are [race] and therefore you cannot [whatever]" is mostly out of our institutions (thank goodness). That... | I think you might be confusing racism (i.e. what people think) with institutional racism (barriers the state itself puts up due to race). Certainly the former exists (there are individual racists in all countries and all societies). | 5v8zub | CMV:I don't think racism exists in society. | I'm a minority living in America, I think the hot topic in my university classes and everyone is race and how whites are oppressing us. But i think they are all just lazy shits that every time something doesn't go their way, they pull out the race card. I believe that with hard work, you can move up in society regardle... | 1,487,644,083 | g0dg0dg0d | de05zwm | de05tlc | 9 | 0 |
CMV: I think Protests/Marches are ineffective ways to show dissent. They rarely get things done.
Like I said, protests and marches that have a group of people collectively join together against or for a cause are ineffective at affecting change in a democracy such as the United States of America.
There are many examp... | I think that there are a few things going on here. First, there are a lot of historically successful protests, here are just some [examples](http://time.com/3741458/influential-protests/).
Second, I think that you have to understand that the goal of protests and rallies are often not as binary as we think about them... | > The Standing Rock Protests worked, until the decision was repealed and the plans to go through with the DAPL were continued.
But if Hillary won then the protests almost certainly *would* have worked. That should be enough to convince you that it's not unheard of for protests to work. Oftentimes they don't work, es... | 5v991z | CMV: I think Protests/Marches are ineffective ways to show dissent. They rarely get things done. | Like I said, protests and marches that have a group of people collectively join together against or for a cause are ineffective at affecting change in a democracy such as the United States of America.
There are many examples of Protests not solving the issue they were organized to do so. The Occupy Wall Street Protes... | 1,487,647,214 | sushiswag69 | de08o6z | de08nwz | 20 | 3 |
CMV: There is nothing positive about having a disorder
This is especially the case if it is a chronic or lifelong disorder.
I have ADHD myself and I think that there are no positives regarding having it. I mean, it's called a mental "disorder" for a reason. There's a reason why nobody wants to be born with ADHD and ... | What would you say about the people who have disorders that allow them to empathise and more deeply connect with others with similar problems?
I'll offer the example of [Professor Temple Grandin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin): a professor of Animal Science at Colorado State university. She's also the ... | I think Malcolm Gladwell did a piece on the topic of disorders (or impediments) in his "David and Goliath" book.
He may have cherrypicked a case. But he basically brought up the case of a lawyer who was incapable of reading (I'm not sure if it was blindness, dyslexia or something else).
Not being able to read would ... | 5va3y6 | CMV: There is nothing positive about having a disorder | This is especially the case if it is a chronic or lifelong disorder.
I have ADHD myself and I think that there are no positives regarding having it. I mean, it's called a mental "disorder" for a reason. There's a reason why nobody wants to be born with ADHD and many ADHDers wish they didn't have this disorder and get... | 1,487,659,414 | silver-crescent | de0iwrn | de0gxl1 | 11 | 2 |
CMV: Any review rating should start at the mid-point and vary on either side instead of giving top stars and going down with bad experience
This is regarding many rating scales we come across. May it be App reviews, restaurant reviews, cab reviews. We generally see people rating something 5 stars and then go down with... | I think you are right that 5 stars for average services is flawed. I would suggest however that 3 stars as the centre point is also flawed.
If I am buying a product, there is a pretty small chance that something is going to so massively exceed my expectations that such an event needs its own rank. I would submit that... | You can't have the best of both world:
As the other redditor made you understand (and I was arguing about the same) your system is rewarding the people going above expectations and adding fluff at the price of reliability.
The second system is rewarding reliability at the price of ignoring extra stuff.
So what is ... | 5vaxm4 | CMV: Any review rating should start at the mid-point and vary on either side instead of giving top stars and going down with bad experience | This is regarding many rating scales we come across. May it be App reviews, restaurant reviews, cab reviews. We generally see people rating something 5 stars and then go down with any negative experience they've had.
I think on a five-point scale, a reviewer should start at 3. This 3 means the average expected experie... | 1,487,675,257 | vaikrunta | de0se9r | de0ppyk | 3 | 1 |
CMV: American Media is Out of Touch with Everyday People
In the past week or so the Youtube community has blown up and divided over recent drama involving PewDiePie and Nazi jokes/imagery he has used in his videos. The reaction from large parts of the Youtube community were railing against mainstream outlets like the ... | I think you are identifying a problem that is arising, but your explanation is incorrect. I think what you are actually describing is, in fact, that the media is becoming even MORE in touch with their audiences. They are catering to specific demographics and ideologies because that's exactly the kind of media being dem... | > Buzzfeed's publishing of an unsubstantiated dossier
[Several elements of that dossier have been verified.](http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/10/politics/russia-dossier-update/)
> the constant reports of Russian interference in the US elections without the release of any credible, verified physical evidence
Both US intell... | 5vbvwh | CMV: American Media is Out of Touch with Everyday People | In the past week or so the Youtube community has blown up and divided over recent drama involving PewDiePie and Nazi jokes/imagery he has used in his videos. The reaction from large parts of the Youtube community were railing against mainstream outlets like the Wall Street Journal, whose original article functioned mor... | 1,487,688,852 | Nobartholem | de0v4yg | de0uk0p | 6 | 1 |
CMV: Male circumcision should only be performed on consenting adults
Another post here had made mention of male circumcision, stating it is "as barbaric as FGM." I disagreed, but I still don't think male circumcision should be performed on underage males.
My reasoning is as follows:
* Male circumcision provides very... | Consider few things. My perspective is that parents shouldn't snip their sons. My perspective is also that this should not be a law to this affect:
1. You're suggesting that we use the government to determine what is a significant and insignificant health benefit. I don't like that precedent.
2. The botched circ... | > Incidentally, what movie was this?
It was "Bad Moms", which just came out last year.
> It seems like male circumcision is in decline in our culture; it may be that in a few years, being circumcised will be considered abnormal.
It's already the minority in some places in the US (the west coast), but not my part o... | 5vd3li | CMV: Male circumcision should only be performed on consenting adults | Another post here had made mention of male circumcision, stating it is "as barbaric as FGM." I disagreed, but I still don't think male circumcision should be performed on underage males.
My reasoning is as follows:
* Male circumcision provides very few and insignificant health benefits. If I remember correctly, these... | 1,487,701,080 | AurelianoTampa | de15sdr | de14qbj | 14 | 3 |
CMV: Nazi imagery is okay within hobbying
Sorry for the mess of a title, I couldn't come up with anything better.
So I'm pretty interested in several hobbies, including modelling and painting scale models and playing wargames. Things like Warhammer and WWII models. I saw a discussion on a forum earlier today where a ... | What is the current culture in the communities you are in right now? It it generally trying to be historically accurate or trying to paint the miniatures to look cool? | Then I agree with you. While some people might find it distasteful, as long as you're not hurting anyone, who cares what damn symbolism you have on your own games/ toys etc.
| 5vdapj | CMV: Nazi imagery is okay within hobbying | Sorry for the mess of a title, I couldn't come up with anything better.
So I'm pretty interested in several hobbies, including modelling and painting scale models and playing wargames. Things like Warhammer and WWII models. I saw a discussion on a forum earlier today where a guy was slammed for painting swastikas and ... | 1,487,702,947 | shotguywithflaregun | de2b305 | de25lkv | 2 | 1 |
CMV: If Paternal Surrender becomes a thing, it should be in conjunction with Paternal Consent, in which men who want children have to pay the women who bear the children for their financial loss and pain and suffering.
Paternal surrender is the idea that a man should be able to legally terminate all rights and respons... | While I think this is a novel idea, I feel like it’s not going to solve the problem you want to solve (somehow evening out biology).
The only people who would be affected are those who consents and aren’t married. If you are married, it makes little sense to pay your spouse (especially in a community property state wi... | I'm in favor of LPS, and I think that you are misunderstanding some key ideas. LPS isn't about getting tit for tat, or evening out biology. Hell, it isn't even a gender thing. LPS is the idea that being a parent should be a conscience choice.
I'm a woman. I have a boyfriend, and I am not ready for a kid. I'm in school... | 5vdgar | CMV: If Paternal Surrender becomes a thing, it should be in conjunction with Paternal Consent, in which men who want children have to pay the women who bear the children for their financial loss and pain and suffering. | Paternal surrender is the idea that a man should be able to legally terminate all rights and responsibilities towards his unborn child while the child is still in the womb because men should get to consent to being a parent or not while a woman they impregnated is pregnant, since that woman gets to decide whether she'l... | 1,487,704,378 | Galentines_day | de17czs | de16uq7 | 2 | 1 |
CMV: People who are arrested but ultimately found not guilty should be compensated.
Currently if you're charged with a crime in the US, you'll probably spend some time in jail before you get your day in court. You'll also have to deal with the stress of potentially losing your freedom, and the costs associated with be... | Complying when you are getting charged is not a punishment. It is a civic duty. You don't get paid when you go on a jury. You don't get paid for respecting speed limits. It will cost a lot to the Stats. It will decrease the likelihood of settlements, thus straining the justice system with administration cost. It will r... | An injustice would be if the false conviction rate was a little higher than 0.0087%. That doesn't seem inconvenient for such a large system (which I have benefited from and I assume you have too). In order for a false arrest, it needs to be shown there isn't probable cause. Say in a murder case, is it unreasonable to d... | 5vdjoh | CMV: People who are arrested but ultimately found not guilty should be compensated. | Currently if you're charged with a crime in the US, you'll probably spend some time in jail before you get your day in court. You'll also have to deal with the stress of potentially losing your freedom, and the costs associated with being unable to work for some time. There are other damages incurred in this process as... | 1,487,705,249 | vaguelydisturbing | de1tzew | de1imfg | 28 | 1 |
CMV: I should not get a hysterectomy.
This might be a bit of a unique one for you, and a lot of you won't know how to answer this, but here goes. I'm a trans guy who has been on HRT for over 5 years, at which point it is recommended by some doctors that you get a hysterectomy. However, there's no actual studies done o... | Thank you for the post.
I agree with moonflower regarding the hesitancy to convince someone into surgery without meeting them and fully evaluating them. So I will not attempt that.
The decision for surgery can often be difficult due to potentially tight risk/benefit ratios.
Instead of trying to change your view rega... | If you have been taking testosterone for 5 years, it has presumably caused masculinisation of your body already, and those effects are irreversible - they don't need further testosterone to maintain them.
I didn't say you ''should'' stop taking it, I said you don't seem to be 100% sure that you are doing the right thi... | 5vey8n | CMV: I should not get a hysterectomy. | This might be a bit of a unique one for you, and a lot of you won't know how to answer this, but here goes. I'm a trans guy who has been on HRT for over 5 years, at which point it is recommended by some doctors that you get a hysterectomy. However, there's no actual studies done on trans men to back up the claim that w... | 1,487,718,790 | inkwat | de1q4z2 | de1lmgr | 2 | 0 |
CMV: Something being a 'social construct' doesn't detract from it's legitimacy.
A common way in which people are beginning to argue the trans debate is by using the 'social construct' argument, that being to state that because they believe that gender is a social construct it no longer has any legitimacy.
However, ev... | Ah, good reply. Unlike many others here you have decided to debate on the topic at hand instead of resorting to virtue signalling and infantile arguments on the difference between Gender and Sex.
>To label something a social construct is not to delegitimize it's role in power structures or its very existence, but to ... | Read through some of your other responses in figuring out how to mentally maneuver around your idea of how you don't care if something is a social construct or not.
I guess I have to appeal to your use of language in your post. Legitimacy has to do with rules and laws and how it parallels them as well as validity. Usi... | 5vf60q | CMV: Something being a 'social construct' doesn't detract from it's legitimacy. | A common way in which people are beginning to argue the trans debate is by using the 'social construct' argument, that being to state that because they believe that gender is a social construct it no longer has any legitimacy.
However, even though I'm not convinced that gender is a social construct at all, that doesn'... | 1,487,721,034 | arkonum | de1o6ib | de1lrdr | 5 | 2 |
CMV: The Infamous "Loss" Webcomic is a Respectable Work of Art
http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20080602
I've seen parodies and references to this webcomic all over the internet, and it seems to be taken as read that the material is objectionable. To me, when I see the original, this seems to be a powerful statement abou... | I strongly reccomend you read [this]
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/159/211/288.png) summary I read a while back.
TL;DR version: The problem isn't necessarily the content, it's the presentation. In Loss.jpg, CAD doesn't stray at all from its typical, comedic format. It's still four panels long, and ... | So on further examination, it appears that the *vast* majority of the outrage is in the form of 4chan'ers and the like taking this comic and making tasteless parodies about it, many of which do seem quite offensive.
About the only thing I can find people objecting to about the original (in one place) is an accusation... | 5vf8p5 | CMV: The Infamous "Loss" Webcomic is a Respectable Work of Art | http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20080602
I've seen parodies and references to this webcomic all over the internet, and it seems to be taken as read that the material is objectionable. To me, when I see the original, this seems to be a powerful statement about tragedy, loss, and being in a relationship.
The male characte... | 1,487,721,799 | critartcal | de1rjzb | de1ok9v | 11 | 2 |
CMV: Sweden isn't NEARLY as bad as Trump describes.
Just to preface this I do live in America (Massachusetts to be exact) reading into I saw that Massachusetts has a HIGHER murder rate than Sweden. Massachusetts has one of the most restrictive gun laws in the country and a pretty low murder rate compared to the rest o... | I think your cmv is rather scattered. Are you saying that Sweden isn't as bad as how Trump describes or are you saying it isn't as bad as the U.S.?
>Refugees are going to be just as dangerous as any other immigrants.
Well now that is just untrue. At least in the U.S. that majority of our immigrants are skilled worke... | Refugees are going to be just as dangerous as any other immigrants.
I don't see how someone from a different country would be any more likely to commit a crime in any way.
I'd argue a lack of education and being from an unstable country where rules and enforcement of rules are... lacking.
Poverty due to living on ... | 5vfno9 | CMV: Sweden isn't NEARLY as bad as Trump describes. | Just to preface this I do live in America (Massachusetts to be exact) reading into I saw that Massachusetts has a HIGHER murder rate than Sweden. Massachusetts has one of the most restrictive gun laws in the country and a pretty low murder rate compared to the rest of the US. Sweden has double the population but pretty... | 1,487,726,286 | AllHailHypnoT0ad | de1r3c8 | de1r1nh | 3 | 1 |
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