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What `-U` option is for with `pip install -U pytest`?
2019-05-30T05:53:52.036000
Cordell
pythondev_help_Cordell_2019-05-30T05:53:52.036000
1,559,195,632.036
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pythondev
help
ok got it <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12435209/what-does-the-u-option-stand-for-in-pip-install-u>
2019-05-30T05:54:49.036200
Cordell
pythondev_help_Cordell_2019-05-30T05:54:49.036200
1,559,195,689.0362
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pythondev
help
How do you check if a class has a method and in case call that method or return something else?
2019-05-30T06:22:44.037100
Eveline
pythondev_help_Eveline_2019-05-30T06:22:44.037100
1,559,197,364.0371
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pythondev
help
cls.foo(a) if hasattr(cls, 'foo') else True
2019-05-30T06:23:49.038300
Eveline
pythondev_help_Eveline_2019-05-30T06:23:49.038300
1,559,197,429.0383
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pythondev
help
or with getattr?
2019-05-30T06:24:29.038600
Eveline
pythondev_help_Eveline_2019-05-30T06:24:29.038600
1,559,197,469.0386
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pythondev
help
getattr(A, ‘foo’, lambda _: True)(a)
2019-05-30T06:25:55.039500
Lolita
pythondev_help_Lolita_2019-05-30T06:25:55.039500
1,559,197,555.0395
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pythondev
help
None
2019-05-30T06:26:26.039700
Eveline
pythondev_help_Eveline_2019-05-30T06:26:26.039700
1,559,197,586.0397
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pythondev
help
what is the best?
2019-05-30T06:27:33.040400
Eveline
pythondev_help_Eveline_2019-05-30T06:27:33.040400
1,559,197,653.0404
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pythondev
help
or the more pythonic one
2019-05-30T06:27:53.040900
Eveline
pythondev_help_Eveline_2019-05-30T06:27:53.040900
1,559,197,673.0409
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pythondev
help
Better use verbose syntax. So that others can easily understand it
2019-05-30T06:28:10.041500
Lolita
pythondev_help_Lolita_2019-05-30T06:28:10.041500
1,559,197,690.0415
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pythondev
help
Pythonic doesn’t mean complex oneliners
2019-05-30T06:28:25.041900
Lolita
pythondev_help_Lolita_2019-05-30T06:28:25.041900
1,559,197,705.0419
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pythondev
help
agree
2019-05-30T06:29:36.042200
Eveline
pythondev_help_Eveline_2019-05-30T06:29:36.042200
1,559,197,776.0422
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help
<@Eveline> In this case, since your trying to figure out whether or not this object has write access, you could make it a method or property (more or less a method that you don't have to explicitly call, so it just looks fancy), and you could reference that, which would make it more explicit. E.g. ``` if my_thing.has_...
2019-05-30T07:01:39.051200
Ashley
pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-05-30T07:01:39.051200
1,559,199,699.0512
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pythondev
help
Hello everyone, python relative newbie here.
2019-05-30T07:34:37.051600
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:34:37.051600
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I was just curious about the approach for having constantly running apps on iot devices like raspberry pies.
2019-05-30T07:35:00.052300
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:35:00.052300
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pythondev
help
There are 2 approaches from what i have been reading.
2019-05-30T07:35:10.052600
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:35:10.052600
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pythondev
help
starting as a daemon
2019-05-30T07:35:16.052900
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:35:16.052900
1,559,201,716.0529
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pythondev
help
and then the while true loop to make it run forever
2019-05-30T07:35:30.053300
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:35:30.053300
1,559,201,730.0533
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pythondev
help
to me the while true approach seems a bit hacky
2019-05-30T07:35:38.053600
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:35:38.053600
1,559,201,738.0536
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pythondev
help
im curious to hear from you guys what you think.
2019-05-30T07:36:03.054200
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:36:03.054200
1,559,201,763.0542
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pythondev
help
&gt; starting as a daemon I’m not much familiar with raspberry pi, but if it’s an option, it’s the best one. Although, I don’t think there’s anything hacky in a while loop. In my opinion it’s the best and cleanest loop you could use in this scenario. The daemons are most probably instructions running in a while loop.
2019-05-30T07:41:21.057800
Lolita
pythondev_help_Lolita_2019-05-30T07:41:21.057800
1,559,202,081.0578
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pythondev
help
i see. thank you <@Lolita>
2019-05-30T07:42:03.058200
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:42:03.058200
1,559,202,123.0582
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pythondev
help
So it will not stress out the computer to have an endless loop running on the pi like that?
2019-05-30T07:42:33.058800
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:42:33.058800
1,559,202,153.0588
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pythondev
help
i'm thinking too much like a human i guess :slightly_smiling_face:
2019-05-30T07:42:42.059100
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:42:42.059100
1,559,202,162.0591
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pythondev
help
i figured a daemon would give it a rest in between queries.
2019-05-30T07:43:11.059600
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:43:11.059600
1,559,202,191.0596
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pythondev
help
You need to make sure that the loop is not adding a lot of data in a data structure or a variable without cleaning it. If possible, if possible, make it an IO driven loop, so that it doesn’t waste resources.
2019-05-30T07:45:59.062400
Lolita
pythondev_help_Lolita_2019-05-30T07:45:59.062400
1,559,202,359.0624
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pythondev
help
ok very smart, i don't know about io driven loops but i will take a look at all that.
2019-05-30T07:46:32.062800
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:46:32.062800
1,559,202,392.0628
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pythondev
help
What do you do python and work wise?
2019-05-30T07:46:40.063200
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:46:40.063200
1,559,202,400.0632
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pythondev
help
means it will wait for a triger point instead of looping continously
2019-05-30T07:47:04.063700
Lolita
pythondev_help_Lolita_2019-05-30T07:47:04.063700
1,559,202,424.0637
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pythondev
help
I’m working in a WebDev company Niteo.
2019-05-30T07:47:25.064100
Lolita
pythondev_help_Lolita_2019-05-30T07:47:25.064100
1,559,202,445.0641
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pythondev
help
that's awesome
2019-05-30T07:48:03.064300
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:48:03.064300
1,559,202,483.0643
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pythondev
help
ok where are they based?
2019-05-30T07:48:12.064600
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:48:12.064600
1,559,202,492.0646
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pythondev
help
you mostly do python?
2019-05-30T07:48:25.065000
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:48:25.065000
1,559,202,505.065
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pythondev
help
Slovenia. It’s focused on Python. <https://niteo.co>
2019-05-30T07:48:46.065400
Lolita
pythondev_help_Lolita_2019-05-30T07:48:46.065400
1,559,202,526.0654
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pythondev
help
very nice
2019-05-30T07:49:43.065700
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:49:43.065700
1,559,202,583.0657
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pythondev
help
i'm on the site now
2019-05-30T07:49:46.065900
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:49:46.065900
1,559,202,586.0659
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pythondev
help
Quite nice
2019-05-30T07:51:22.066200
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:51:22.066200
1,559,202,682.0662
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pythondev
help
i like the discontinued project for domain monitor
2019-05-30T07:51:31.066600
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:51:31.066600
1,559,202,691.0666
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pythondev
help
that is always a tool people charge a lot of money for
2019-05-30T07:51:39.067000
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:51:39.067000
1,559,202,699.067
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pythondev
help
do you do any side projects for fun?
2019-05-30T07:51:45.067200
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T07:51:45.067200
1,559,202,705.0672
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pythondev
help
Lots of them: <https://arijitbasu.in/#/projects> <https://github.com/sayanarijit?tab=repositories>
2019-05-30T07:54:49.067700
Lolita
pythondev_help_Lolita_2019-05-30T07:54:49.067700
1,559,202,889.0677
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pythondev
help
I just joined the company. I’m yet to get permanent
2019-05-30T07:55:20.068400
Lolita
pythondev_help_Lolita_2019-05-30T07:55:20.068400
1,559,202,920.0684
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pythondev
help
<@Ashley> Woow thanks for the suggestions, I'll use it as best practice! thanks again
2019-05-30T07:56:34.068500
Eveline
pythondev_help_Eveline_2019-05-30T07:56:34.068500
1,559,202,994.0685
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pythondev
help
that's wonderful
2019-05-30T08:10:47.068800
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T08:10:47.068800
1,559,203,847.0688
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pythondev
help
sorry i was having breakfast with the family just finished
2019-05-30T08:10:55.069200
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T08:10:55.069200
1,559,203,855.0692
25,865
pythondev
help
i'll pm you
2019-05-30T08:10:57.069400
Arnoldo
pythondev_help_Arnoldo_2019-05-30T08:10:57.069400
1,559,203,857.0694
25,866
pythondev
help
For a chat bot I'm building I'm storing messages in Firestore (NoSQL) and linking messages that are in the same conversation with a thread-ID. Does the schema make sense? I have successfully done simple CRUD operations, but struggling with inserting new data (Like a new message) into an existing document without over...
2019-05-30T08:53:49.070000
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T08:53:49.070000
1,559,206,429.07
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pythondev
help
My goal is to have for each `threadID`, one unique document. Where new messages are added into that document
2019-05-30T08:55:32.071300
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T08:55:32.071300
1,559,206,532.0713
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pythondev
help
Or, should I create a sub-collection for each `threadID` and store messages as documents?
2019-05-30T08:56:08.072100
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T08:56:08.072100
1,559,206,568.0721
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pythondev
help
Probably want a collection
2019-05-30T09:01:12.072300
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:01:12.072300
1,559,206,872.0723
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pythondev
help
The simplest thing would be to have each `threadID` as a collection at the root level. If I'd do that, there will be thousands of collections at the root level quickly however. Is that a bad thing?
2019-05-30T09:05:48.074000
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:05:48.074000
1,559,207,148.074
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pythondev
help
how deep you nest stuff wont make much difference if the amount of data is the same
2019-05-30T09:07:31.075600
Leida
pythondev_help_Leida_2019-05-30T09:07:31.075600
1,559,207,251.0756
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pythondev
help
Another alternative would be `rooms/tech_team/threadID` where `rooms` and `threadID` would be collections
2019-05-30T09:07:49.076000
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:07:49.076000
1,559,207,269.076
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Ok, so go with simple then <@Leida>
2019-05-30T09:07:55.076200
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:07:55.076200
1,559,207,275.0762
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pythondev
help
Same amount of data either way
2019-05-30T09:08:10.076800
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:08:10.076800
1,559,207,290.0768
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pythondev
help
yeah, go as complex as you absolutely need, but no more
2019-05-30T09:08:11.077000
Leida
pythondev_help_Leida_2019-05-30T09:08:11.077000
1,559,207,291.077
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pythondev
help
makes addressing the data simpler in your program
2019-05-30T09:08:35.077700
Leida
pythondev_help_Leida_2019-05-30T09:08:35.077700
1,559,207,315.0777
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pythondev
help
Can you use relational?
2019-05-30T09:08:53.078400
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:08:53.078400
1,559,207,333.0784
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pythondev
help
I can, but will need to convince the team why
2019-05-30T09:09:44.079000
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:09:44.079000
1,559,207,384.079
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pythondev
help
We just had a chat in <#C3X4T24LB|databases> about rdms vs random json
2019-05-30T09:10:17.079800
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:10:17.079800
1,559,207,417.0798
25,880
pythondev
help
What's the scale of your data?
2019-05-30T09:10:40.080200
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:10:40.080200
1,559,207,440.0802
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pythondev
help
How do I measure that?
2019-05-30T09:11:25.080600
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:11:25.080600
1,559,207,485.0806
25,882
pythondev
help
No data exists, new product
2019-05-30T09:11:40.081400
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:11:40.081400
1,559,207,500.0814
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pythondev
help
Like is this dozens, thousands, millions or billions
2019-05-30T09:11:51.081800
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:11:51.081800
1,559,207,511.0818
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pythondev
help
tens of thousands
2019-05-30T09:12:04.082100
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:12:04.082100
1,559,207,524.0821
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pythondev
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So ill delegate to the more experienced folks about tech decisions like this in an early stage
2019-05-30T09:12:35.082900
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:12:35.082900
1,559,207,555.0829
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pythondev
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But what I can say is it's really annoying as a data scientist dealing with random heirarchical structures
2019-05-30T09:13:02.083800
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:13:02.083800
1,559,207,582.0838
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pythondev
help
Since usually we look at data in ways the engineer didn't expect
2019-05-30T09:13:40.084400
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:13:40.084400
1,559,207,620.0844
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pythondev
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Which is what relational db is designed to do
2019-05-30T09:13:59.084900
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:13:59.084900
1,559,207,639.0849
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pythondev
help
Example: get all messages grouped by users where they live in NA
2019-05-30T09:15:10.085600
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:15:10.085600
1,559,207,710.0856
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pythondev
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I do get your point
2019-05-30T09:16:29.085900
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:16:29.085900
1,559,207,789.0859
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pythondev
help
Maybe I should cross this over with the team a couple more times
2019-05-30T09:16:48.086300
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:16:48.086300
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pythondev
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Just make sure you know the tradeoff
2019-05-30T09:17:18.086900
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:17:18.086900
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pythondev
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Yep
2019-05-30T09:17:43.087200
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:17:43.087200
1,559,207,863.0872
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pythondev
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I believe nosql is much faster inserts at large scale
2019-05-30T09:18:06.088200
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:18:06.088200
1,559,207,886.0882
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pythondev
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I'll set up some quick schema now and populate it with some simulated data and discuss with the team tomorrow
2019-05-30T09:18:13.088500
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:18:13.088500
1,559,207,893.0885
25,896
pythondev
help
Is the chatbot Central to your business?
2019-05-30T09:18:45.089500
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:18:45.089500
1,559,207,925.0895
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pythondev
help
This product won't really be of any large scale
2019-05-30T09:18:49.089700
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:18:49.089700
1,559,207,929.0897
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pythondev
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No
2019-05-30T09:19:05.090100
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:19:05.090100
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help
Its an internal utility bot, not mission critical
2019-05-30T09:19:37.090700
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:19:37.090700
1,559,207,977.0907
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pythondev
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The need for a db is more to be able to connect messages in the same conversation with each other. But it could grow into something bigger further down the path
2019-05-30T09:20:40.091600
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T09:20:40.091600
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pythondev
help
:thumbsup:
2019-05-30T09:23:38.092700
Ashley
pythondev_help_Ashley_2019-05-30T09:23:38.092700
1,559,208,218.0927
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pythondev
help
Select msg from table grp by thread_id
2019-05-30T09:23:45.093100
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:23:45.093100
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pythondev
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Is what I'd want
2019-05-30T09:23:52.093400
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:23:52.093400
1,559,208,232.0934
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pythondev
help
Ok I'll be quiet now and let others chime in :bell:
2019-05-30T09:25:08.094100
Bethany
pythondev_help_Bethany_2019-05-30T09:25:08.094100
1,559,208,308.0941
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pythondev
help
we’re having _almost_ the same discussion, if a little more theoretical, in <#C3X4T24LB|databases>
2019-05-30T09:25:41.094800
Clemmie
pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-05-30T09:25:41.094800
1,559,208,341.0948
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pythondev
help
could be a post processing step to go from nosql to a chunk of data the analyst uses tho
2019-05-30T09:25:57.095100
Leida
pythondev_help_Leida_2019-05-30T09:25:57.095100
1,559,208,357.0951
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pythondev
help
a data warehouse?
2019-05-30T09:26:14.095300
Clemmie
pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-05-30T09:26:14.095300
1,559,208,374.0953
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pythondev
help
worth it if you have huge amounts of data that have orders of magnitude difference in retrieval time for the client/report use cases
2019-05-30T09:26:59.096100
Clemmie
pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-05-30T09:26:59.096100
1,559,208,419.0961
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pythondev
help
``` In [9]: robot = Robot() In [10]: robot.name ...
2019-05-30T09:39:09.096500
Jorge
pythondev_help_Jorge_2019-05-30T09:39:09.096500
1,559,209,149.0965
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pythondev
help
its because `self.create_name() == self.name` is almost never *True*, so the code inside the *while* block almost never gets executed. you'd have to have the name generation code in `create_name` create the same name as it originally did, which would happen every 26*26*999 times (about 1 in 500, 000)
2019-05-30T09:41:37.096700
Jorge
pythondev_help_Jorge_2019-05-30T09:41:37.096700
1,559,209,297.0967
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pythondev
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How can I make a script more easy to install for other people without telling about set up a virtual environment and install specific package :thinking_face:
2019-05-30T10:22:11.098400
Dennise
pythondev_help_Dennise_2019-05-30T10:22:11.098400
1,559,211,731.0984
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pythondev
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As I'm reading the source code for Firestore, I see this ``` def List(self, request, global_params=None): r"""Lists composite indexes. Args: request: (FirestoreProjectsDatabasesCollectionGroupsIndexesListRequest) input message global_params: (StandardQueryParameters, default: None) glob...
2019-05-30T10:39:53.098900
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T10:39:53.098900
1,559,212,793.0989
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pythondev
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Specifically the `r` in `r"""Lists composite indexes.`
2019-05-30T10:40:10.099300
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T10:40:10.099300
1,559,212,810.0993
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pythondev
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Why?
2019-05-30T10:40:31.099700
Conchita
pythondev_help_Conchita_2019-05-30T10:40:31.099700
1,559,212,831.0997
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pythondev
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that’s for raw strings
2019-05-30T10:46:55.100100
Hiroko
pythondev_help_Hiroko_2019-05-30T10:46:55.100100
1,559,213,215.1001
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pythondev
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&gt;&gt;&gt;For consistency, always use `"""triple double quotes"""` around docstrings. Use `r"""raw triple double quotes"""` if you use any backslashes in your docstrings. For Unicode docstrings, use `u"""Unicode triple-quoted strings"""`.
2019-05-30T10:47:01.100300
Hiroko
pythondev_help_Hiroko_2019-05-30T10:47:01.100300
1,559,213,221.1003
25,917
pythondev
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hi! need help with regexp i have `api/customer/{$.orgid}/participant/{$.eid}` string and I want to extract all words in `{}` They all starts from `$.` Could you help with valid expression
2019-05-30T11:16:09.102300
Mi
pythondev_help_Mi_2019-05-30T11:16:09.102300
1,559,214,969.1023
25,918
pythondev
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I have a really weird situation, I have a scrapper that gets data and stores it in a db, then I have a site that displays this data so I can go through and see the scrapped data, and it has a link to an article that is scrapped from a specific site, this all works fine, however when I click the link to go to the extern...
2019-05-30T11:21:17.104600
Arturo
pythondev_help_Arturo_2019-05-30T11:21:17.104600
1,559,215,277.1046
25,919
pythondev
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its the full url
2019-05-30T11:21:28.104800
Arturo
pythondev_help_Arturo_2019-05-30T11:21:28.104800
1,559,215,288.1048
25,920