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what about mapbox?
2017-09-12T09:12:17.000339
Meg
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they are very committed to open source, and were very prominent at FOSS4G last month
2017-09-12T09:13:11.000354
Meg
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with the main dev for Leaflet, Vlad, giving three talks
2017-09-12T09:13:25.000505
Meg
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Doesn't look like they have a places database
2017-09-12T09:15:55.000268
Gabriele
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oh, thought you meant geocoding
2017-09-12T09:21:51.000584
Meg
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Mapzen? <https://whosonfirst.mapzen.com/> Also seem to be big proponents of oss
2017-09-12T10:31:13.000524
Fabiola
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Looks like it has potential. If only their docs weren't written by a frustrated English Literature graduate
2017-09-12T10:34:45.000555
Gabriele
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I mean, I'm trying to browse it to find out what it actually offers, and I come across a page detailing the Chicken response format: <https://mapzen.com/documentation/wof/formats/#chicken>
2017-09-12T10:38:26.000747
Gabriele
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every api should have chicken format
2017-09-12T10:39:05.000037
Cristy
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I'll add it to my backlog
2017-09-12T10:39:36.000502
Gabriele
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hey guys, I've been thinking about whether I should use a Mixin or Class Composition. In my scenario, I have a cross cutting concern that I would like to share across a few classes. For concreteness, lets say the class looks like the following: ``` class CrossCuttingMixin(object): def initialize(self, service, external_id): pass def is_enabled(self, payload): pass def is_id_allowed(self, id): pass ``` 1. Is it better to write a mixin or use class composition (i.e. initialize the class within another class) 2. Should mixins should keep state or be stateless? 3. Any good reads on this debate?
2017-09-12T12:14:05.000228
Mary
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Your example is a bit too abstract for me to understand what exactly it would be used for, but these days it's common to prefer composition to inheritance, certainly
2017-09-12T12:19:59.000141
Gabriele
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It's not like Python makes it easy to enforce the interfaces anyway
2017-09-12T12:20:25.000552
Gabriele
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<@Gabriele> check out abc, you can enforce interfaces (e.g. when trying to instantiate a class from an ABC, abstract base class, you'll get an error if any abstract methods are not overridden)
2017-09-12T12:21:34.000439
Beula
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Starts to feel a bit like Java then :wink:
2017-09-12T12:25:19.000818
Gabriele
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<@Gabriele> - what about testability? Classes become harder to test because of composition
2017-09-12T12:28:43.000302
Mary
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The only way I could think of making it easier is passing the class as a param on initialization
2017-09-12T12:29:01.000341
Mary
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Why? Mixins are just composition that the compiler does for you.
2017-09-12T12:29:19.000339
Gabriele
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I guess you can't easily pass several different composed types to the same tests, but if you really want the same interface across them, you can add that
2017-09-12T12:30:13.000442
Gabriele
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Mixins aren't composition
2017-09-12T12:30:25.000513
Beula
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You can write them as such, but it's still a "is-a" relationship there
2017-09-12T12:30:37.000610
Beula
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Composition is more about aggregating functionality than about interfaces
2017-09-12T12:30:41.000302
Gabriele
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Well, I'm thinking on a more abstract level. It's still just taking the bits from one thing and inserting them into another. Is-A and Has-A becomes rather fluid in a dynamically typed language anyway
2017-09-12T12:31:38.000273
Gabriele
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Not really, inheritance is always "is-a"
2017-09-12T12:32:10.000178
Beula
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Dynamic doesn't really impact that at all
2017-09-12T12:32:19.000293
Beula
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But you can have "is-a" without inheritance, and you can have mixins with all 'private' members which don't really give you any sort of useful 'is-a' relationship.
2017-09-12T12:33:40.000256
Gabriele
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As I see it, the only really important thing is, "does this object support this interface?"
2017-09-12T12:34:12.000445
Gabriele
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It's not about whether or not you get anything useful from it though
2017-09-12T12:34:30.000166
Beula
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And you are right, that _can_ happen
2017-09-12T12:34:40.000292
Beula
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But that's digressing from mixin not really being composition
2017-09-12T12:34:59.000491
Beula
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I still think it's just a matter of perspective.
2017-09-12T12:37:06.000706
Gabriele
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Far enough :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-09-12T12:37:56.000356
Beula
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For Python specifically, I'd define the difference between Mixin and Composition classes in this way: ``` #Mixin class Mixin(object): def do_something(self): print 'Hi' class BaseClass(Mixin): def run(self): self.do_something() #Composition class Composition(object): def do_something(self): print 'Hi' class BaseClass(object): def __init__(self): self.composition = Composition() def run(self): self.composition.do_something() ```
2017-09-12T12:40:19.000646
Mary
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Sure
2017-09-12T12:40:54.000435
Gabriele
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<@Gabriele> Is right, a mixin is meant as a type of composition, it really depends on how the mixin class is written
2017-09-12T12:41:14.000205
Beula
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say, we have a Deep Learning model written in python2.x and the next step is to deploy it as a web service. Is it okay, if the Flask REST APIs are in Python3.x
2017-09-12T12:48:31.000728
Tameika
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How do me maintain the parity?
2017-09-12T12:48:53.000169
Tameika
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<@Tameika> Are the Deep Learning models populating a database or something? Or are you wanting to trigger the py2 models from the flask app?
2017-09-12T12:49:43.000627
Beula
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True, they should all trigger py2 models as well libraries installed for py2.x
2017-09-12T12:50:39.000435
Tameika
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How are you "triggering" the deep learning models?
2017-09-12T12:52:24.000194
Beula
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does anyone here knows how to set up gpiozero library on mac?
2017-09-12T12:53:23.000300
Shirl
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what
2017-09-12T12:55:28.000217
Cherrie
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<@Shirl>, you can't. you need to use it on a pi
2017-09-12T12:56:25.000630
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-09-12T12:56:25.000630
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what's the best practice for accessing database credentials for multiple databases in django?
2017-09-12T12:56:30.000088
Cherrie
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<https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.11/topics/db/multi-db/>
2017-09-12T12:56:53.000157
Meg
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I can't just stick the username/password in the settings.py
2017-09-12T12:57:00.000151
Cherrie
pythondev_help_Cherrie_2017-09-12T12:57:00.000151
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<https://github.com/joke2k/django-environ>
2017-09-12T12:57:48.000036
Meg
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<@Meg> I read that, but it doesn't provide a solution for my problem
2017-09-12T12:57:48.000149
Cherrie
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honestly, that's what I interpreted your original question as
2017-09-12T12:58:04.000366
Meg
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<@Meg> <https://gpiozero.readthedocs.io/en/stable/remote_gpio.html>
2017-09-12T12:58:53.000344
Shirl
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the only problem is when i follow it line by line i´m still missing some files
2017-09-12T12:59:28.000486
Shirl
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<@Cherrie> How does it not fix the problem? You need to load the config from the environment if you can't store it in settings.py
2017-09-12T12:59:56.000008
Beula
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<@Beula> is there a way to leverage another settings file?
2017-09-12T13:00:30.000521
Cherrie
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like a "databases" only setting file
2017-09-12T13:00:50.000264
Cherrie
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eg `dev_settings.py`
2017-09-12T13:00:54.000059
Meg
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sure
2017-09-12T13:01:08.000089
Cherrie
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Sure, set `DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE='other.settings.file'`
2017-09-12T13:01:57.000417
Beula
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And in that other file extend your base
2017-09-12T13:02:05.000111
Beula
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<https://github.com/pyslackers/website/tree/master/config/settings>
2017-09-12T13:02:24.000280
Beula
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That is how we do it for this community's website
2017-09-12T13:02:30.000119
Beula
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But we also use the environment
2017-09-12T13:02:35.000513
Beula
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I tried to move the second db connection to the dev_settings.py, but it seems to overwrite the test_settings which means my tests try to run using a real connection as opposed to a test connection. I suppose the real conflict is between test_settings and original settings and where to put the second database connection
2017-09-12T13:03:25.000216
Cherrie
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I guess I am not following you, take a peek at the link above - we have three different settings files (dev/test/prod) that all extend a _base
2017-09-12T13:04:33.000027
Beula
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each adds its customization
2017-09-12T13:04:51.000447
Beula
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<@Beula> sure, for your example, when you run your project you're selecting which settings module to run via the command line, right?
2017-09-12T13:08:45.000107
Cherrie
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We override the `DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE` envvar: the manage.py sets the default to "development", testing uses pytest-django (which sets it to testing), and in prod we set the envvar explicitly
2017-09-12T13:10:08.000379
Beula
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oh got it, my settings are just misconfigured
2017-09-12T13:11:46.000709
Cherrie
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thanks <@Beula>
2017-09-12T13:11:56.000725
Cherrie
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:thumbsup::skin-tone-4:
2017-09-12T13:12:05.000415
Beula
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We have a <#C0LMFRMB5|django> specific channel for any django questions :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-09-12T13:12:14.000335
Beula
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<@Beula> okay I'll use that moving forward.
2017-09-12T13:16:44.000179
Cherrie
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Has anyone tried using setup.py build_ext with a cpp file that's already been compiled (file.bin) but includes the requisite Python hooks?
2017-09-12T14:40:36.000046
Elane
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Hey, would anyone knows how the answer for this Pytest / Pycharm question? <https://twitter.com/AlexZamai/status/907575096507854848>
2017-09-12T15:19:58.000114
Mavis
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How can run my unittest programmatically? <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/46183899/importing-and-calling-unittest-programmatically>
2017-09-12T15:21:31.000268
Sharika
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I would say your config file should mainly have code related to pytest itself. Say, new commands related to skipping tests or such.
2017-09-12T15:47:17.000231
Tanya
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but what about fixtures that I'm sharing across the test suite? in my case its generated by faker names an email address I would like to import and use them across?
2017-09-12T16:00:29.000532
Mavis
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Sorry, took more than a second long look. Rename your testing_config to conftest.py. You don't need to import those fakes into your tests.
2017-09-12T16:00:37.000760
Tanya
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aha, its the filename autodiscovered by pytest?
2017-09-12T16:01:27.000133
Mavis
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Yup
2017-09-12T16:09:54.000580
Tanya
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I just recently started transitioning over to pytest here as well and there's a lot there (that sometimes isn't explained well).
2017-09-12T16:15:15.000267
Tanya
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can someone help me with python for AWS lambda? I have a simple question
2017-09-12T19:49:54.000291
Charlena
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<@Charlena> ask away, someone will see it and answer you if they can
2017-09-12T20:47:18.000123
Kiersten
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<@Charlena> I've been playing with it a bit lately.
2017-09-12T21:07:01.000185
Lorna
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How do I access a variable from one method to another? lets say I have a variable goals=5 in my method goal_total() . How do I access that goal variable in another method? I've tried a few things but for no success. Also i wasnt able to find proper documentation on that topic.
2017-09-12T21:19:39.000182
Charlena
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Can't you just set global variable at the top of your file? ``` GOALS = 5 def goal_total(): # something to do with goals ```
2017-09-12T21:25:19.000024
Lorna
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You can also set Environment variables pretty easily which is handy
2017-09-12T21:25:31.000061
Lorna
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<@Charlena> I have just started playing with AWS and lambda myself - I would have thought what <@Lorna> said - is that not working?
2017-09-12T21:27:33.000098
Mallie
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<@Charlena> there's no state sharing between lambda executions, you need to use an external store for state
2017-09-12T21:30:36.000055
Marcie
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that can be things like external databases (postgres, etc.), key-value stores (dynamodb, etc.), or if they're direct deps, invoking other lambda functions directly either via API gateway or SQS
2017-09-12T21:31:41.000016
Marcie
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<@Charlena> so you want data to persist between Lambda calls?
2017-09-12T21:35:39.000100
Lorna
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<@Lorna> no I'm not that deep and into stuff like persistence yet. But I made a simple lambda function and the normal python way seems to be working.
2017-09-12T21:57:20.000087
Charlena
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def lambda_handler(event, context): # TODO implement print (hello()) print ("hi") return 'Hello from Lambda' def hello(): a="5" return a
2017-09-12T21:57:40.000005
Charlena
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<@Charlena> you can use the little `+` button on the left there &lt;-- to add a python snippet
2017-09-12T21:57:58.000202
Marcie
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I was able to print 5 when I called hello()
2017-09-12T21:58:02.000039
Charlena
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<@Marcie> will do next time. Thanks
2017-09-12T21:58:28.000145
Charlena
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help please with conversion
2017-09-13T02:25:28.000165
Eustolia
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<@Eustolia> you should fix the source of that output
2017-09-13T02:26:13.000137
Collette
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i am fixed source
2017-09-13T02:26:32.000018
Eustolia
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Sorry, what?
2017-09-13T02:26:41.000155
Collette
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Whatever gave you that output is broken - that string is a `repr` of a python dictionary
2017-09-13T02:27:13.000048
Collette
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