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pythondev
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I even started to test it out :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-10-24T04:58:47.000225
Suellen
pythondev_help_Suellen_2017-10-24T04:58:47.000225
1,508,821,127.000225
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pythondev
help
there might need to be a tweak around the anchor to the beginning of the line, but yeah, that’s the general approach
2017-10-24T04:59:11.000432
Junita
pythondev_help_Junita_2017-10-24T04:59:11.000432
1,508,821,151.000432
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pythondev
help
Especially if this is meant to be a learning exercise, might as well learn. :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-10-24T04:59:34.000160
Junita
pythondev_help_Junita_2017-10-24T04:59:34.000160
1,508,821,174.00016
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pythondev
help
If it’s not meant to be a learning exercise, I’d say using an external tool will be faster, more accurate
2017-10-24T04:59:57.000378
Junita
pythondev_help_Junita_2017-10-24T04:59:57.000378
1,508,821,197.000378
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pythondev
help
Regex evaluated an input of 8 spaces to 6
2017-10-24T05:01:17.000457
Kayce
pythondev_help_Kayce_2017-10-24T05:01:17.000457
1,508,821,277.000457
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pythondev
help
=/ I'm no bueno with regex
2017-10-24T05:02:02.000241
Kayce
pythondev_help_Kayce_2017-10-24T05:02:02.000241
1,508,821,322.000241
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pythondev
help
probably worth practicing with them to get better than instead of avoiding them. :stuck_out_tongue:
2017-10-24T05:02:19.000329
Junita
pythondev_help_Junita_2017-10-24T05:02:19.000329
1,508,821,339.000329
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pythondev
help
True! I don't come across them terribly often though! Any sharp regex knowledge quickly fades after a week.
2017-10-24T05:03:29.000516
Kayce
pythondev_help_Kayce_2017-10-24T05:03:29.000516
1,508,821,409.000516
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pythondev
help
<@Ines> also, it goes without saying, backup these files first. :stuck_out_tongue:
2017-10-24T05:06:08.000026
Junita
pythondev_help_Junita_2017-10-24T05:06:08.000026
1,508,821,568.000026
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pythondev
help
<@Junita> :)))))))) of course it goes without saying. although, replace would have made the backup automatically. also, I don’t necessary agree that an external tool would be faster, unless your talking faster from a processing point of view. this “app” I’m writing has the ability to search the project structure recursively and finds all files I want to modify by looking at their extensions (which are parametrised so I can specify whatever extension I want), and reformats all files according to my needs, which are also parametrised. you will have the chance to take a look at the end result on github after I finish it. and if you’re asking yourself where did the need came from, all our JavaScript files have been indented with 4 spaces, but we want to switch to the recommended standard of 2 spaces :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-10-24T05:17:14.000195
Ines
pythondev_help_Ines_2017-10-24T05:17:14.000195
1,508,822,234.000195
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pythondev
help
most editors/ides have something to do that project wide
2017-10-24T05:18:46.000203
Junita
pythondev_help_Junita_2017-10-24T05:18:46.000203
1,508,822,326.000203
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pythondev
help
how would replace have done that automatically though? Maybe I’m misunderstanding what you said you had done already?
2017-10-24T05:19:25.000147
Junita
pythondev_help_Junita_2017-10-24T05:19:25.000147
1,508,822,365.000147
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pythondev
help
to be honest, I didn’t find how to do it in my IDE of choice, and neither using external plugins or other apps, either for my IDE or for a different editor. I’m pretty sure that there might be tools and probably even an implicit way of doing it in my IDE, it just wasn’t easy to find so I took this as a good opportunity to write a small python app :slightly_smiling_face: I think you understood what I’m trying to do, taking into consideration your commentaries. I can switch to a different standard in my IDE, it just won’t replace the existing format :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-10-24T05:23:40.000362
Ines
pythondev_help_Ines_2017-10-24T05:23:40.000362
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pythondev
help
<@Junita> thanks again
2017-10-24T05:23:49.000293
Ines
pythondev_help_Ines_2017-10-24T05:23:49.000293
1,508,822,629.000293
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pythondev
help
np, and yeah doesn’t hurt to do it as a learning exercise!
2017-10-24T05:24:39.000133
Junita
pythondev_help_Junita_2017-10-24T05:24:39.000133
1,508,822,679.000133
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pythondev
help
Can someone explain to me what virtual envs are? How/why are they used? And maybe how I can/should start using them?
2017-10-24T06:51:21.000128
Omar
pythondev_help_Omar_2017-10-24T06:51:21.000128
1,508,827,881.000128
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pythondev
help
<@Omar> virtualenvs are segregated python installations you use for each individual project you run.
2017-10-24T06:53:18.000270
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T06:53:18.000270
1,508,827,998.00027
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pythondev
help
This way each project gets it's own python installation (whichever version you want), it's own environmental variables and, most importantly, it's own third part packages.
2017-10-24T06:53:54.000091
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T06:53:54.000091
1,508,828,034.000091
98,020
pythondev
help
It avoids mixing dependencies between projects so you don't have any clashes
2017-10-24T06:54:40.000206
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T06:54:40.000206
1,508,828,080.000206
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pythondev
help
also means that you have a defined set of dependencies for each project which can be easily translated into a requirements.txt file
2017-10-24T06:55:02.000210
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T06:55:02.000210
1,508,828,102.00021
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pythondev
help
the easiest way to use it (in my opinion) is by installing this libary: <http://virtualenvwrapper.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install.html#basic-installation>
2017-10-24T06:55:27.000123
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T06:55:27.000123
1,508,828,127.000123
98,023
pythondev
help
(for mac and linux)
2017-10-24T06:56:31.000475
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T06:56:31.000475
1,508,828,191.000475
98,024
pythondev
help
any idea why this `print(letter, end='')` is throwing up a syntax error? I have another line `print('_', end='')` that isnt.
2017-10-24T07:15:04.000422
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:15:04.000422
1,508,829,304.000422
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pythondev
help
this is the block ```for letter in secret_word: if letter in good_guesses: print(letter, end='') else: print('_', end='')```
2017-10-24T07:16:40.000080
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:16:40.000080
1,508,829,400.00008
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pythondev
help
im using a flake 8 linter within atom.
2017-10-24T07:23:08.000283
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:23:08.000283
1,508,829,788.000283
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pythondev
help
<@Amee> What is the syntax error that it's throwing?
2017-10-24T07:23:43.000042
Barbera
pythondev_help_Barbera_2017-10-24T07:23:43.000042
1,508,829,823.000042
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pythondev
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invalid syntax
2017-10-24T07:24:00.000160
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:24:00.000160
1,508,829,840.00016
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pythondev
help
<@Amee> I bet the actual syntax error is somewhere above
2017-10-24T07:24:06.000117
Collette
pythondev_help_Collette_2017-10-24T07:24:06.000117
1,508,829,846.000117
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pythondev
help
<@Amee> posting the full traceback is often more useful than the code.
2017-10-24T07:24:23.000278
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:24:23.000278
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pythondev
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```while True: start = input("press enter / return to start, or enter 'q' to Quit.") if start.lower() == 'q': break # pick a random word secret_word = random.choice(words) bad_guesses = [] good_guesses = [] while len(bad_guesses) &lt; 7 and len(good_guesses) != len(list(secret_word)): # draw spaces draw guesed letters and strikes for letter in secret_word: if letter in good_guesses: print(letter, end='') else: print('_', end='') print('') print('Strikes: {}/7'.format(len(bad_guesses))) print('') ```
2017-10-24T07:24:29.000230
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:24:29.000230
1,508,829,869.00023
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pythondev
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<@Amee> can we get the full traceback?
2017-10-24T07:25:41.000342
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:25:41.000342
1,508,829,941.000342
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pythondev
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i can post the full file its only 60 lines
2017-10-24T07:25:57.000281
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:25:57.000281
1,508,829,957.000281
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pythondev
help
im doing the treehouse basic course
2017-10-24T07:26:05.000304
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:26:05.000304
1,508,829,965.000304
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pythondev
help
What is the error that's being thrown? Not the source ,but the error itself.
2017-10-24T07:26:30.000121
Barbera
pythondev_help_Barbera_2017-10-24T07:26:30.000121
1,508,829,990.000121
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pythondev
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^^^ the traceback <@Amee> the full error. It should have a lot more detail than just "invalid syntax"
2017-10-24T07:27:03.000054
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:27:03.000054
1,508,830,023.000054
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pythondev
help
thats all its throwing up im afraid :disappointed:
2017-10-24T07:28:18.000097
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:28:18.000097
1,508,830,098.000097
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pythondev
help
hmmm does the code run?
2017-10-24T07:28:29.000285
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:28:29.000285
1,508,830,109.000285
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pythondev
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it does
2017-10-24T07:28:35.000396
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:28:35.000396
1,508,830,115.000396
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pythondev
help
and what is your flake8 version?
2017-10-24T07:28:38.000049
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:28:38.000049
1,508,830,118.000049
98,041
pythondev
help
but it doesnt chuck out the strikes _ or a good guess
2017-10-24T07:28:58.000197
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:28:58.000197
1,508,830,138.000197
98,042
pythondev
help
3.4.1
2017-10-24T07:29:17.000052
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:29:17.000052
1,508,830,157.000052
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pythondev
help
3.4.1 (mccabe: 0.6.1, pycodestyle: 2.3.1, pyflakes: 1.5.0) CPython 2.7.10 on Darwin
2017-10-24T07:29:38.000267
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:29:38.000267
1,508,830,178.000267
98,044
pythondev
help
could be 1.5.0 im new lol
2017-10-24T07:29:55.000388
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:29:55.000388
1,508,830,195.000388
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pythondev
help
&gt; CPython 2.7.10
2017-10-24T07:30:46.000165
Collette
pythondev_help_Collette_2017-10-24T07:30:46.000165
1,508,830,246.000165
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pythondev
help
Of course `print()` is invalid syntax on python 2
2017-10-24T07:30:59.000259
Collette
pythondev_help_Collette_2017-10-24T07:30:59.000259
1,508,830,259.000259
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pythondev
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oh damn missed that
2017-10-24T07:31:15.000237
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:31:15.000237
1,508,830,275.000237
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pythondev
help
god spot
2017-10-24T07:31:16.000131
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:31:16.000131
1,508,830,276.000131
98,049
pythondev
help
<@Amee> you installed the wrong python version :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-10-24T07:31:25.000372
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:31:25.000372
1,508,830,285.000372
98,050
pythondev
help
i havent had the issue before using `print()` only on this app
2017-10-24T07:31:36.000234
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:31:36.000234
1,508,830,296.000234
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pythondev
help
<@Amee> either you had `from __future__ import print_function` or you have been actually using `python3`
2017-10-24T07:32:00.000125
Collette
pythondev_help_Collette_2017-10-24T07:32:00.000125
1,508,830,320.000125
98,052
pythondev
help
or you didn't use arguments
2017-10-24T07:32:09.000328
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:32:09.000328
1,508,830,329.000328
98,053
pythondev
help
yep
2017-10-24T07:32:13.000279
Collette
pythondev_help_Collette_2017-10-24T07:32:13.000279
1,508,830,333.000279
98,054
pythondev
help
(other than what needed to be printed)
2017-10-24T07:32:18.000285
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:32:18.000285
1,508,830,338.000285
98,055
pythondev
help
so this is a good question… i have 2.7.1 installed
2017-10-24T07:32:29.000241
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:32:29.000241
1,508,830,349.000241
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pythondev
help
but also install the latest via homebrew
2017-10-24T07:32:38.000155
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:32:38.000155
1,508,830,358.000155
98,057
pythondev
help
`print(foo, bar)` on py2 is truly `print (foo, bar)`, i.e. not a function call
2017-10-24T07:32:40.000237
Collette
pythondev_help_Collette_2017-10-24T07:32:40.000237
1,508,830,360.000237
98,058
pythondev
help
how do i make everything point to the latest version
2017-10-24T07:33:03.000259
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:33:03.000259
1,508,830,383.000259
98,059
pythondev
help
i followed this
2017-10-24T07:33:06.000435
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:33:06.000435
1,508,830,386.000435
98,060
pythondev
help
you don’t want to do that
2017-10-24T07:33:28.000387
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-10-24T07:33:28.000387
1,508,830,408.000387
98,061
pythondev
help
leave system python alone
2017-10-24T07:33:33.000180
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-10-24T07:33:33.000180
1,508,830,413.00018
98,062
pythondev
help
use a virtualenv :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-10-24T07:33:37.000252
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-10-24T07:33:37.000252
1,508,830,417.000252
98,063
pythondev
help
<http://docs.python-guide.org/en/latest/starting/install3/osx/#install3-osx>
2017-10-24T07:33:40.000452
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:33:40.000452
1,508,830,420.000452
98,064
pythondev
help
or use `python3` to open up the python 3 shell
2017-10-24T07:34:04.000069
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-10-24T07:34:04.000069
1,508,830,444.000069
98,065
pythondev
help
```jasonjohns:~/projects/work/degreedata/project/qualitycontrol/static/qualitycontrol$ python3 Python 3.6.1 (v3.6.1:69c0db5050, Mar 21 2017, 01:21:04) [GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. &gt;&gt;&gt;```
2017-10-24T07:34:32.000252
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-10-24T07:34:32.000252
1,508,830,472.000252
98,066
pythondev
help
i always use python3 in the shell
2017-10-24T07:34:33.000276
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:34:33.000276
1,508,830,473.000276
98,067
pythondev
help
<@Meg> you still have to install python3 in osx
2017-10-24T07:34:47.000266
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:34:47.000266
1,508,830,487.000266
98,068
pythondev
help
Python 3.6.3 (default, Oct 4 2017, 06:09:38) [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 9.0.0 (clang-900.0.37)] on darwin Type “help”, “copyright”, “credits” or “license” for more information. &gt;&gt;&gt;
2017-10-24T07:34:52.000422
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:34:52.000422
1,508,830,492.000422
98,069
pythondev
help
<@Amee> in which case did you install flake8 onto the right python version?
2017-10-24T07:35:01.000199
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:35:01.000199
1,508,830,501.000199
98,070
pythondev
help
yeah i done this via homebrew
2017-10-24T07:35:05.000180
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:35:05.000180
1,508,830,505.00018
98,071
pythondev
help
Sounds like you installed it into the python2 folder
2017-10-24T07:35:13.000031
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:35:13.000031
1,508,830,513.000031
98,072
pythondev
help
that!! i dont know lol
2017-10-24T07:35:13.000069
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:35:13.000069
1,508,830,513.000069
98,073
pythondev
help
so is a python2 flake8, not a python3
2017-10-24T07:35:23.000156
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:35:23.000156
1,508,830,523.000156
98,074
pythondev
help
i used easy_install to install pip
2017-10-24T07:35:25.000068
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:35:25.000068
1,508,830,525.000068
98,075
pythondev
help
it probably defaulted to python2 pip
2017-10-24T07:35:42.000085
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:35:42.000085
1,508,830,542.000085
98,076
pythondev
help
try pip3
2017-10-24T07:35:44.000194
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:35:44.000194
1,508,830,544.000194
98,077
pythondev
help
see if that command works
2017-10-24T07:35:48.000135
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:35:48.000135
1,508,830,548.000135
98,078
pythondev
help
and remove the old flake8 before you reinstall it via pip3
2017-10-24T07:35:56.000079
Vada
pythondev_help_Vada_2017-10-24T07:35:56.000079
1,508,830,556.000079
98,079
pythondev
help
ok ill give that a go :smile:
2017-10-24T07:36:28.000167
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:36:28.000167
1,508,830,588.000167
98,080
pythondev
help
stange though as i have never ran into this issue before, but ill try and remove flake from 2.7.1
2017-10-24T07:39:13.000273
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:39:13.000273
1,508,830,753.000273
98,081
pythondev
help
thanks guys
2017-10-24T07:39:16.000419
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:39:16.000419
1,508,830,756.000419
98,082
pythondev
help
following these steps are the correct way to install the latest version of python though right?
2017-10-24T07:44:47.000207
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:44:47.000207
1,508,831,087.000207
98,083
pythondev
help
then id just use python3 and pip3 ?
2017-10-24T07:44:56.000135
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:44:56.000135
1,508,831,096.000135
98,084
pythondev
help
<http://docs.python-guide.org/en/latest/starting/install3/osx/#install3-osx>
2017-10-24T07:45:02.000045
Amee
pythondev_help_Amee_2017-10-24T07:45:02.000045
1,508,831,102.000045
98,085
pythondev
help
yep
2017-10-24T07:47:23.000245
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-10-24T07:47:23.000245
1,508,831,243.000245
98,086
pythondev
help
especially if you see `which pip` pointing to 2.7
2017-10-24T07:47:40.000250
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-10-24T07:47:40.000250
1,508,831,260.00025
98,087
pythondev
help
but if you do `pip3`, it should point to your 3.x install
2017-10-24T07:47:54.000187
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-10-24T07:47:54.000187
1,508,831,274.000187
98,088
pythondev
help
If you're confused which pip points to which python, it's better to call `python3.5 -m pip`
2017-10-24T07:57:40.000230
Collette
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Then you'll get a correct version of pip for sure
2017-10-24T07:57:49.000111
Collette
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cool thanks.
2017-10-24T10:04:00.000290
Bruno
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Does anyone know of some good reading material on python's setup tools? I feel like most of the articles I've come across are just a waste of time
2017-10-24T10:15:15.000448
Lory
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how so? what’s lacking?
2017-10-24T10:20:43.000114
Meg
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I feel like all the tutorials/articles/etc have read as if the person they're trying to teach already knows the stuff and I haven't been able to fully pull out all the pieces that make it work. Like specifically how to structure your package with an __init__.py and why you can leave it empty and why you may or may not want to. How to do simple local pip installs of your project if you're not interested in publishing on pypi, like in the case of a webapp
2017-10-24T10:28:03.000070
Lory
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I feel like they are all hyper focused on going from project to pypi and these are the steps to get there without ever really explaining anything. By "they" I just mean various articles I've found by googling from trusted sources to random people writing blog posts
2017-10-24T10:29:06.000366
Lory
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Just now seeing these responses (sorry). <@Seema> Ok, was the panel from this year? I would love to check it out <@Ronni> I agree unit tests are easier to write, and I actually want functional tests more for a documentation for the devs to know the workflow more than anything. I was really shocked when I left a project for a year to come back to it and instantly understand where I left off and what needs to be done because of functional tests with user story comments
2017-10-24T10:52:28.000563
Vita
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What pieces are you looking for <@Lory>?
2017-10-24T10:57:57.000121
Johana
pythondev_help_Johana_2017-10-24T10:57:57.000121
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It kinda sounds like structuring python projects.
2017-10-24T10:59:44.000882
Johana
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Hey Guys Any suggestion of a python library for mysql dB querying for beginner ?
2017-10-24T11:00:54.000509
Burma
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I know this is a little bit of a lengthy video but it is by :dabeaz: and it enlightened me to python packages and imports (not pypi). <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oTh1CXRaQ0>
2017-10-24T11:01:11.000247
Johana
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Hey Guys Any suggestion of a python library for mysql dB querying for beginner ?
2017-10-24T11:03:49.000004
Burma
pythondev_help_Burma_2017-10-24T11:03:49.000004
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I’m a bit partial to using sqlalchemy. it isn’t touted as the best library for beginners but learning it will definitely pay dividends.
2017-10-24T11:06:06.000525
Johana
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