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i'm slipping on this banana stuff
2017-11-06T12:56:49.000426
Winnifred
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pythondev
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`bananarama`...[]
2017-11-06T12:57:05.000321
Jenise
pythondev_help_Jenise_2017-11-06T12:57:05.000321
1,509,973,025.000321
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pythondev
help
Using `class.__name__` as `self` could make sense :thinking_face:
2017-11-06T12:57:50.000435
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-11-06T12:57:50.000435
1,509,973,070.000435
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pythondev
help
how?
2017-11-06T12:58:27.000197
Porsha
pythondev_help_Porsha_2017-11-06T12:58:27.000197
1,509,973,107.000197
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pythondev
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i'd constantly think you were trying to be clever with class methods
2017-11-06T12:59:08.000113
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T12:59:08.000113
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pythondev
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...but then notice the lack of `@classmethod` and wonder how the hell you got that to work
2017-11-06T12:59:21.000731
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T12:59:21.000731
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pythondev
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`@bananamethod`
2017-11-06T12:59:43.000395
Collette
pythondev_help_Collette_2017-11-06T12:59:43.000395
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pythondev
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using `self` in `classmethod` would be the worst :smile:
2017-11-06T12:59:54.000009
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-11-06T12:59:54.000009
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pythondev
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i'm sure people do it all the time
2017-11-06T13:00:32.000611
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T13:00:32.000611
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pythondev
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you're converting a method from instance to class...forget to rename that parameter...
2017-11-06T13:00:45.000456
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T13:00:45.000456
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pythondev
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Hey! I'm trying to start a bootcamp in my university to try and get people into coding. I was wondering if any of you could help me compile resources from across the web for an absolute beginner to learn python.
2017-11-06T13:49:19.000033
Max
pythondev_help_Max_2017-11-06T13:49:19.000033
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"automate the boring stuff" is free online, IIRC
2017-11-06T13:50:03.000301
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T13:50:03.000301
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i'd start them off with that
2017-11-06T13:50:10.000418
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T13:50:10.000418
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pythondev
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(I was going to type something but I'm more curious what kenneth has to say)
2017-11-06T13:50:15.000438
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-11-06T13:50:15.000438
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pythondev
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especially in school when you have a lot of boring stuff
2017-11-06T13:50:21.000278
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T13:50:21.000278
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That's a great book, enjoyed it so much I bought the real thing haha
2017-11-06T13:50:25.000285
Lory
pythondev_help_Lory_2017-11-06T13:50:25.000285
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lol. i am _not_ the end-all, be-all guide to learning python :smile:
2017-11-06T13:51:02.000519
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T13:51:02.000519
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true, but don't you/ didn't you teach python at college level?
2017-11-06T13:51:18.000624
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-11-06T13:51:18.000624
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pythondev
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i taught for <http://teamtreehouse.com|teamtreehouse.com>
2017-11-06T13:51:30.000706
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T13:51:30.000706
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so everyone from 11 year olds to 90 year olds
2017-11-06T13:51:40.000354
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T13:51:40.000354
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pythondev
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all education levels and such too
2017-11-06T13:51:50.000850
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T13:51:50.000850
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i keep thinking about trying to get in as a teacher for a community college or something but that's a heck of a pay cut. hard to do that w/ kids and mortgage
2017-11-06T13:52:44.000335
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T13:52:44.000335
1,509,976,364.000335
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<@Max> you are effectively running a non-for-profit business with this idea, selling it, hoping for consumers, just no money. I would recommend finding some test customers and trying it out on them, seeing what other colleges have tried, seeing where the need is as well as finding focusing your attention to a narrow g...
2017-11-06T13:52:58.000673
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-11-06T13:52:58.000673
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pythondev
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where's the emoji for "I hear you on that one"...
2017-11-06T13:53:24.000500
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-11-06T13:53:24.000500
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pythondev
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state university would probably be alright so long as i wasn't just an adjunct
2017-11-06T13:53:52.000637
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T13:53:52.000637
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but i don't necessarily have the qualifications
2017-11-06T13:54:06.000525
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T13:54:06.000525
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pythondev
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In California, the community college professors were killing it awhile ago. The state and UC professors were not thrilled. Focus certainly mattered but the three tier system can be skewed
2017-11-06T13:54:57.000439
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-11-06T13:54:57.000439
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<@Seema> thank you for your suggestion. we are just a group of college students trying to teach each other. I just want a professional in the field to look through our curated content list and approve.
2017-11-06T13:58:40.000500
Max
pythondev_help_Max_2017-11-06T13:58:40.000500
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Are you doing data science work?
2017-11-06T13:59:11.000683
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-11-06T13:59:11.000683
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pythondev
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we're having some pretty major internet weirdness here today, so i'll check when i can, <@Max>
2017-11-06T13:59:25.000213
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T13:59:25.000213
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The first course is on basic python. Then we are going into deep learning.
2017-11-06T13:59:59.000245
Max
pythondev_help_Max_2017-11-06T13:59:59.000245
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by "data science" I mean anything from basic statistics to any field that uses data
2017-11-06T14:00:16.000800
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-11-06T14:00:16.000800
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pythondev
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<@Frieda> You're connection got bogged? ours went down within the past 45 minutes, whole office is freaking out cause we can't launch our project
2017-11-06T14:00:35.000387
Lory
pythondev_help_Lory_2017-11-06T14:00:35.000387
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<@Lory> i'm just having a terrible time loading...almost any site
2017-11-06T14:01:09.000097
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T14:01:09.000097
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there's considerable need to be able to data manipulation. As far as ml goes, have you seen the openai or serpent stuff. The learning curve is probably too steep for a beginner programmer but it might be something to consider for later on
2017-11-06T14:01:14.000026
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-11-06T14:01:14.000026
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pythondev
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AWS or DNS or something went down somewhere
2017-11-06T14:01:15.000417
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T14:01:15.000417
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glad to see we weren't the only ones at least. We've had DNS attacks in the past
2017-11-06T14:01:46.000154
Lory
pythondev_help_Lory_2017-11-06T14:01:46.000154
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pythondev
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DNS is resolving for me, but loading is literally hit or miss, some sites boom, other sides, clockwise for a long time
2017-11-06T14:01:59.000077
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-11-06T14:01:59.000077
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pythondev
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no, it seems pretty wide spread
2017-11-06T14:02:00.000358
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T14:02:00.000358
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pythondev
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craigslist can't even load for me! Washington Post, no problem
2017-11-06T14:02:20.000459
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-11-06T14:02:20.000459
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pythondev
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i'd go see if there's buzz about it on twitter but twitter isn't loading
2017-11-06T14:02:20.000804
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T14:02:20.000804
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Yeah. I had a look at it. We will just be touching upon implementation without going into the detailed math.
2017-11-06T14:03:38.000412
Max
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Just wish our clients would realize that and stop asking why they have no access lol
2017-11-06T14:03:55.000251
Lory
pythondev_help_Lory_2017-11-06T14:03:55.000251
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pythondev
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if clients knew those kinds of technical things, they wouldn't need you
2017-11-06T14:04:20.000580
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T14:04:20.000580
1,509,977,060.00058
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pythondev
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do you have docker as part of your curriculum? jupyter notebooks?
2017-11-06T14:04:29.000344
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-11-06T14:04:29.000344
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pythondev
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the gift and the curse
2017-11-06T14:04:37.000005
Lory
pythondev_help_Lory_2017-11-06T14:04:37.000005
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pythondev
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managed to get a google result snippet form twitter, not confirmed but it says Comcast has a nationwide outage posted by Burlington Press
2017-11-06T14:15:20.000628
Lory
pythondev_help_Lory_2017-11-06T14:15:20.000628
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pythondev
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joy. guess who my service provider is?
2017-11-06T14:15:58.000073
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T14:15:58.000073
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pythondev
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Us too haha
2017-11-06T14:16:18.000504
Lory
pythondev_help_Lory_2017-11-06T14:16:18.000504
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pythondev
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Comcast strikes again....
2017-11-06T14:16:22.000413
Lory
pythondev_help_Lory_2017-11-06T14:16:22.000413
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there are _no_ reliable alternatives here. :rage:
2017-11-06T14:16:48.000069
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T14:16:48.000069
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pythondev
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we have Optimum in a few spots near us, I enjoyed them when i had them at home for a while but unfortunately Comcast has them locked out to very specific areas
2017-11-06T14:17:46.000441
Lory
pythondev_help_Lory_2017-11-06T14:17:46.000441
1,509,977,866.000441
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pythondev
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Google FIber SAVE US
2017-11-06T14:17:50.000010
Lory
pythondev_help_Lory_2017-11-06T14:17:50.000010
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pythondev
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google fiber isn't expanding any more, IIRC
2017-11-06T14:18:03.000611
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T14:18:03.000611
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So I've heard
2017-11-06T14:18:12.000445
Lory
pythondev_help_Lory_2017-11-06T14:18:12.000445
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they were gonna come here but then shut down
2017-11-06T14:18:13.000211
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T14:18:13.000211
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pythondev
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God forbid someone comes in to take out Comcast
2017-11-06T14:18:29.000687
Lory
pythondev_help_Lory_2017-11-06T14:18:29.000687
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<@Meg> i figured out my issue
2017-11-06T14:20:13.000610
Dexter
pythondev_help_Dexter_2017-11-06T14:20:13.000610
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i needed to change a parameter in the face detection library
2017-11-06T14:20:20.000407
Dexter
pythondev_help_Dexter_2017-11-06T14:20:20.000407
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the people on the security camera (in the ceiling) were much smaller than the webcam, and there’s a setting related to the size of expected faces
2017-11-06T14:20:41.000640
Dexter
pythondev_help_Dexter_2017-11-06T14:20:41.000640
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pythondev
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And looks like Comcast is back
2017-11-06T14:31:07.000003
Lory
pythondev_help_Lory_2017-11-06T14:31:07.000003
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pythondev
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I can load craigslist now!
2017-11-06T14:32:38.000206
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-11-06T14:32:38.000206
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Amazon was peppy but when I couldn't load a text based page I knew something was fishy
2017-11-06T14:33:03.000091
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-11-06T14:33:03.000091
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if I want to use call another function in the same class,
2017-11-06T14:52:58.000057
Ernestina
pythondev_help_Ernestina_2017-11-06T14:52:58.000057
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both methods are in the same class
2017-11-06T14:53:14.000246
Ernestina
pythondev_help_Ernestina_2017-11-06T14:53:14.000246
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There is no need to make it explicit, correct?
2017-11-06T14:53:34.000030
Ernestina
pythondev_help_Ernestina_2017-11-06T14:53:34.000030
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Or how to make it explicit,
2017-11-06T14:57:06.000151
Ernestina
pythondev_help_Ernestina_2017-11-06T14:57:06.000151
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<@Ernestina>: You make it explicit with `self`, which specifies the particular instance of your class
2017-11-06T15:00:34.000620
Delicia
pythondev_help_Delicia_2017-11-06T15:00:34.000620
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e.g.
2017-11-06T15:00:36.000801
Delicia
pythondev_help_Delicia_2017-11-06T15:00:36.000801
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haha honestly
2017-11-06T15:01:29.000041
Lory
pythondev_help_Lory_2017-11-06T15:01:29.000041
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so what does the self.bleat() here do?
2017-11-06T15:01:48.000399
Ernestina
pythondev_help_Ernestina_2017-11-06T15:01:48.000399
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Like can you call `self.bleat()` as a function?
2017-11-06T15:02:04.000630
Ernestina
pythondev_help_Ernestina_2017-11-06T15:02:04.000630
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You'd call it as a method of a `Goat` instance
2017-11-06T15:03:17.000353
Delicia
pythondev_help_Delicia_2017-11-06T15:03:17.000353
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Makes sense now. SO when initinating a new object , in this case `goat`, it automatically called the self.beat()
2017-11-06T15:06:32.000324
Ernestina
pythondev_help_Ernestina_2017-11-06T15:06:32.000324
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Exactly right :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-11-06T15:07:00.000294
Delicia
pythondev_help_Delicia_2017-11-06T15:07:00.000294
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thank you!
2017-11-06T15:09:38.000406
Ernestina
pythondev_help_Ernestina_2017-11-06T15:09:38.000406
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Teamtreehouse pays more than a being an adjunct prof at a community college?? :confused:
2017-11-06T16:28:30.000388
Genesis
pythondev_help_Genesis_2017-11-06T16:28:30.000388
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So when to use static method vs class method.
2017-11-06T16:41:14.000693
Ernestina
pythondev_help_Ernestina_2017-11-06T16:41:14.000693
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anyone can help?
2017-11-06T16:41:20.000407
Ernestina
pythondev_help_Ernestina_2017-11-06T16:41:20.000407
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According to the numbers I've seen, yes
2017-11-06T16:44:48.000178
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T16:44:48.000178
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Public teachers are paid pretty badly
2017-11-06T16:44:57.000005
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T16:44:57.000005
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staticmethod when it could as well be a function elsewhere, but conceptually fits in the class
2017-11-06T16:46:57.000165
Suellen
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damn...
2017-11-06T16:47:12.000127
Genesis
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classmethod is for when you need a class object, not any instance in particular. For example when you want to create an instance yourself, like `__init__` does.
2017-11-06T16:48:04.000282
Suellen
pythondev_help_Suellen_2017-11-06T16:48:04.000282
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and Treehouse was a full time job with decent benefits and a not-too-bad salary
2017-11-06T16:48:30.000219
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T16:48:30.000219
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that's my take :stuck_out_tongue:
2017-11-06T16:48:33.000543
Suellen
pythondev_help_Suellen_2017-11-06T16:48:33.000543
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you almost never actually _need_ `@staticmethod`. it's more about organization, like <@Suellen> said.
2017-11-06T16:49:01.000344
Frieda
pythondev_help_Frieda_2017-11-06T16:49:01.000344
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or because pycharm is complaining :smile:
2017-11-06T16:49:39.000331
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-11-06T16:49:39.000331
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so true
2017-11-06T16:50:40.000400
Suellen
pythondev_help_Suellen_2017-11-06T16:50:40.000400
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I don’t get the pycharm is complaning part haha
2017-11-06T16:51:09.000340
Ernestina
pythondev_help_Ernestina_2017-11-06T16:51:09.000340
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pythondev
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I use databricks and jupyter notebook
2017-11-06T16:51:22.000402
Ernestina
pythondev_help_Ernestina_2017-11-06T16:51:22.000402
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<@Ernestina> pycharm attempts to help from the install and some of it's help is welcome, but there's pretty much a little bulb that is trying to suggest *something* all the time unless you tweak it to be quiet
2017-11-06T17:00:34.000175
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-11-06T17:00:34.000175
1,509,987,634.000175
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I'm doing something with each file contained in a directory. If the file is not found, how can I say, "that's okay, go to the next one?"
2017-11-06T17:36:34.000220
Vena
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check if the path exists, if so, do what you want
2017-11-06T17:43:43.000330
Frieda
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if the path doesn't exist, your loop should just continue on its own
2017-11-06T17:43:53.000259
Frieda
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or catch the error and continue
2017-11-06T17:45:40.000240
Ciera
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yeah, that should throw `FileNotFoundError`
2017-11-06T17:46:21.000405
Frieda
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checking the path might not work if something else is moving the files around
2017-11-06T17:46:29.000040
Ciera
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well you'd have to use the path to access the file anyway so...
2017-11-06T17:46:45.000383
Frieda
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yeah but it's an habit to take. It could be possible that something else move/delete the file between the time you check for the path and the time you access th efile
2017-11-06T17:48:11.000305
Ciera
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