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what do you suggest for production?
2017-12-11T11:29:28.000520
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:29:28.000520
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so, I I have a 10 servers on AWS
2017-12-11T11:29:46.000269
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:29:46.000269
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and 12 different queues
2017-12-11T11:30:03.000122
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:30:03.000122
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workers on celery servers are daemonized, where workers are listening to one or more queues, depending on the task resource requirements, run time, etc
2017-12-11T11:30:45.000581
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:30:45.000581
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for example, tasks that run in five seconds require fewer resources than tasks with 6 hours run time
2017-12-11T11:31:10.000618
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:31:10.000618
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pythondev
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then my app API pushes new tasks into the rabbit broker queues
2017-12-11T11:31:54.000650
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:31:54.000650
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and what about scalability
2017-12-11T11:31:57.000134
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:31:57.000134
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no problem. Spin up 1 or 10 new servers, map them to the queues required and its hands off after that
2017-12-11T11:32:27.000219
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:32:27.000219
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then when it comes time to spin down, shut down the worker processes and wait for them to finish executing the currently executing tasks
2017-12-11T11:33:08.000277
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:33:08.000277
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ok, makes sense.
2017-12-11T11:33:24.000009
Jacki
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once that’s done, the workers will stop listening to the queue, and the broker doesn’t care
2017-12-11T11:33:36.000381
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:33:36.000381
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problably I am using a cannon to shot a fly
2017-12-11T11:34:15.000113
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:34:15.000113
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if all you’re doing is sending out emails with this, then yeah
2017-12-11T11:34:34.000645
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:34:34.000645
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much better ways to handle that
2017-12-11T11:34:40.000046
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:34:40.000046
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like coding a queue
2017-12-11T11:35:00.000117
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:35:00.000117
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and send email using aiohttp
2017-12-11T11:35:08.000454
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:35:08.000454
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no, use an external mailing service
2017-12-11T11:35:24.000877
Meg
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because you’re running the risk of being blacklisted
2017-12-11T11:35:42.000206
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:35:42.000206
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i can’t really use an external service for policy
2017-12-11T11:35:47.000330
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:35:47.000330
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so no mailchimp or stuff like that
2017-12-11T11:35:58.000057
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:35:58.000057
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and I can assume that I won’t be backlisted
2017-12-11T11:36:13.000557
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:36:13.000557
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something like this might make more sense for you
2017-12-11T11:36:53.000799
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:36:53.000799
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<https://github.com/nvie/rq>
2017-12-11T11:36:54.000256
Meg
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I’ll have a look at
2017-12-11T11:38:08.000008
Jacki
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thanks
2017-12-11T11:38:10.000294
Jacki
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good luck :smile:
2017-12-11T11:38:21.000095
Meg
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so, in a nutshell, when Celery is a good solution?
2017-12-11T11:38:43.000749
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:38:43.000749
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a large collections of vms taks deployments?
2017-12-11T11:41:58.000247
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:41:58.000247
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pythondev
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loading the top 100 stories from a remote services?
2017-12-11T11:42:29.000463
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:42:29.000463
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pythondev
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when you have repeatable tasks that you want to keep out of the http request-response loop
2017-12-11T11:43:02.000257
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:43:02.000257
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with quality scale up/down capability
2017-12-11T11:43:18.000192
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:43:18.000192
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for example, I just finished indexing 10 million mirrored web pages in solr for search using celery. took 3 days to do
2017-12-11T11:45:45.000826
Meg
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brought online some extra servers from AWS to handle the extra load, and shut them down when it was done
2017-12-11T11:46:12.000920
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:46:12.000920
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great.
2017-12-11T11:46:26.000824
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:46:26.000824
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cool, I know how I’ll spend the rest of the day
2017-12-11T11:46:44.000138
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:46:44.000138
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thanks again
2017-12-11T11:46:53.000581
Jacki
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I’ll try to sort it out
2017-12-11T11:47:03.000378
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:47:03.000378
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<@Glinda> there is no cache that I know of for the rtm
2017-12-11T11:47:34.000116
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-11T11:47:34.000116
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but may I ask you why you don’t like the docker solution
2017-12-11T11:47:36.000046
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:47:36.000046
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for a production env
2017-12-11T11:47:44.000002
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:47:44.000002
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i mean, docker is strong enough and reliable
2017-12-11T11:48:07.000061
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:48:07.000061
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is it something related to celery itself ?
2017-12-11T11:48:23.000423
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:48:23.000423
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just don’t see the need for it
2017-12-11T11:48:42.000386
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:48:42.000386
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because celery workers are already daemonized
2017-12-11T11:48:54.000057
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:48:54.000057
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so, why go through the docker layer?
2017-12-11T11:49:05.000395
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:49:05.000395
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to have a configuration ready to start in different env
2017-12-11T11:49:45.000734
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:49:45.000734
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you do the conf once, you can repeat everywhere, even localy
2017-12-11T11:50:43.000128
Jacki
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```pip install -r requirements.txt cp celery-default /etc/default/celeryd sudo service celeryd restart ```
2017-12-11T11:50:51.000556
Meg
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I’ll try your way
2017-12-11T11:51:12.000152
Jacki
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that’s pretty much it for me.
2017-12-11T11:51:34.000147
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:51:34.000147
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ok
2017-12-11T11:52:07.000369
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:52:07.000369
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that said, I am going to be teaching myself docker this winter. It has benefits I can use
2017-12-11T11:52:51.000446
Meg
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but I just don’t see any distinct advantage to containerizing celery on dedicated servers that are wholly responsible for async workers
2017-12-11T11:53:30.000023
Meg
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portability is one of the main advantages
2017-12-11T11:54:21.000042
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:54:21.000042
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your container is not coupled to your server
2017-12-11T11:54:49.000666
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:54:49.000666
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Where should I ask questions about test cases for a project?
2017-12-11T11:54:59.000603
Glinda
pythondev_help_Glinda_2017-12-11T11:54:59.000603
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but, yes, I see your point
2017-12-11T11:55:29.000063
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:55:29.000063
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anyway I am trying to put my celery app into a container
2017-12-11T11:55:49.000497
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:55:49.000497
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and see what’s going on
2017-12-11T11:56:01.000675
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:56:01.000675
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you might want to check out <https://github.com/pyslackers/website>
2017-12-11T11:56:30.000459
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:56:30.000459
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when you signed up for the group, that’s the website that’s behind it
2017-12-11T11:56:43.000206
Meg
pythondev_help_Meg_2017-12-11T11:56:43.000206
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ah ok
2017-12-11T11:57:44.000034
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:57:44.000034
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thanks
2017-12-11T11:57:46.000203
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T11:57:46.000203
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Hey <@Patty> I was using google for queries with `geocoder` but I'm finding I'll quickly be over the limit as far as requests go. Which other provider is good to use?
2017-12-11T12:14:29.000542
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-11T12:14:29.000542
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<@Ciera> figured it out, pycharm "refactored" when I moved old creds to `archive` folder and my creds was pointing to the wrong variable.
2017-12-11T12:14:37.000220
Glinda
pythondev_help_Glinda_2017-12-11T12:14:37.000220
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:facepalm:
2017-12-11T12:14:57.000113
Glinda
pythondev_help_Glinda_2017-12-11T12:14:57.000113
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<@Myong> <http://geocoder.readthedocs.io/#providers>
2017-12-11T12:18:03.000172
Patty
pythondev_help_Patty_2017-12-11T12:18:03.000172
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right now I have `creds.py`in a file, with that file added to `.gitignore` Currently testing locally, what are some better ways than that?
2017-12-11T12:19:31.000775
Glinda
pythondev_help_Glinda_2017-12-11T12:19:31.000775
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environment variables
2017-12-11T12:19:52.000462
Ciera
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and second choice would be args to pass at startup for testing
2017-12-11T12:20:15.000809
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-11T12:20:15.000809
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Trying ArcGIS atm, giving error for SSL cause of works WiFi...
2017-12-11T12:20:30.000085
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-11T12:20:30.000085
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I tend to favor Environment variables as well, primarily because in the case of a deployed environment it allows you to change them without a re-deploy. I usually have a settings file that can be loaded that refrences the envvars to keep it tidy and not leak envvars all over the code base
2017-12-11T12:23:41.000081
Beula
pythondev_help_Beula_2017-12-11T12:23:41.000081
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yeah environment variable is usually the way to go and it's really easy to load them in a script
2017-12-11T12:29:47.000297
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-11T12:29:47.000297
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how do I convert `"2017-12-08 17:19:36 -0600"` to `"2017-12-08 23:19:36` in python
2017-12-11T12:32:04.000059
Arlene
pythondev_help_Arlene_2017-12-11T12:32:04.000059
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<https://docs.python.org/3/library/datetime.html>
2017-12-11T12:33:16.000575
Ciera
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I receive that date format from an api, but need to conver it to 2017-12-08 23:19:3 ill look in the docs
2017-12-11T12:37:04.000375
Arlene
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to see
2017-12-11T12:37:06.000172
Arlene
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I'm not sure if you have control of the API but it might be easier to change it to a timestamp
2017-12-11T12:38:02.000313
Ciera
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no control of the api
2017-12-11T12:40:28.000343
Arlene
pythondev_help_Arlene_2017-12-11T12:40:28.000343
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timestamp wont work for me,
2017-12-11T12:42:08.000229
Arlene
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ill try to see if i can get it to be `2017-12-08 23:19:36` in this format
2017-12-11T12:42:27.000205
Arlene
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``` &gt;&gt;&gt; import arrow &gt;&gt;&gt; s = "2017-12-08 17:19:36 -0600" &gt;&gt;&gt; dt = arrow.get(s, 'YYYY-MM-DD HH:mm:ss Z') &gt;&gt;&gt; print(dt) 2017-12-08T17:19:36-06:00 &gt;&gt;&gt; print(<http://dt.to|dt.to>('UTC')) 2017-12-08T23:19:36+00:00 ```
2017-12-11T12:44:37.000014
Suellen
pythondev_help_Suellen_2017-12-11T12:44:37.000014
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never used arrow :confused: looks nice
2017-12-11T12:45:02.000387
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-11T12:45:02.000387
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it's a beautiful thing :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-12-11T12:45:14.000577
Suellen
pythondev_help_Suellen_2017-12-11T12:45:14.000577
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WOW that is AWESOME
2017-12-11T12:46:01.000143
Arlene
pythondev_help_Arlene_2017-12-11T12:46:01.000143
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Thanks <@Suellen>
2017-12-11T12:46:10.000749
Arlene
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:tada:
2017-12-11T12:46:25.000299
Suellen
pythondev_help_Suellen_2017-12-11T12:46:25.000299
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Turns out bings API isn't ratelimited and allows upwards of 250k queries a year so that should do.
2017-12-11T12:47:18.000447
Myong
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so I guess it is rate limited at 250k queries a year but whatever
2017-12-11T12:47:51.000183
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-11T12:47:51.000183
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does anyone has ever used Celery with Redis sentinels?
2017-12-11T13:28:55.000216
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T13:28:55.000216
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it is driving me crazy …
2017-12-11T13:29:11.000539
Jacki
pythondev_help_Jacki_2017-12-11T13:29:11.000539
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Question: I have a server-side application that automates downloading a bunch of excel files, performs some ETL, and writes them to a SQL db. I have like 30 functions that contain each search (automated through selenium, and the site's HTML doesn't really lend itself to iterating through those searches in a single func...
2017-12-11T13:34:11.000307
Enid
pythondev_help_Enid_2017-12-11T13:34:11.000307
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Are the functions just different in terms of the search arguments they're called with or are they actually different functions?
2017-12-11T13:46:30.000075
Antionette
pythondev_help_Antionette_2017-12-11T13:46:30.000075
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Also, is this a blocking function or are you using some sort of task queue like Celery?
2017-12-11T13:48:13.000605
Nicole
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<@Antionette> They are different functions.
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<@Nicole> I'm not using a task queue.
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Is there an easy way to wrap a `slackclient` rtm_socket in a flask app so I can host on `pythonanywhere`
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Not that I know of but the you could host it on digital ocean
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I didnt know time objects would be such a big pain today haha. If I have the time in a string like `2017-12-11 11:21:29` is there a good way to convert string times like that into UTC times in python?
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There is the arrow lib <@Suellen> showed you or `datetime.strptime`
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