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haha no I go it wrong you got it right <@Seema>
2017-12-14T11:37:36.000797
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:37:36.000797
1,513,251,456.000797
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pythondev
help
lol
2017-12-14T11:37:46.000907
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:37:46.000907
1,513,251,466.000907
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pythondev
help
what's happenin
2017-12-14T11:37:51.000616
Suellen
pythondev_help_Suellen_2017-12-14T11:37:51.000616
1,513,251,471.000616
103,805
pythondev
help
wait isnt that pypy?
2017-12-14T11:37:56.000867
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T11:37:56.000867
1,513,251,476.000867
103,806
pythondev
help
LOL
2017-12-14T11:37:58.000944
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T11:37:58.000944
1,513,251,478.000944
103,807
pythondev
help
I'm confused
2017-12-14T11:38:01.000572
Suellen
pythondev_help_Suellen_2017-12-14T11:38:01.000572
1,513,251,481.000572
103,808
pythondev
help
<https://pypy.org/> != <https://pypi.python.org/pypi>
2017-12-14T11:38:18.000393
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:38:18.000393
1,513,251,498.000393
103,809
pythondev
help
right, so i'm not having a stroke
2017-12-14T11:38:35.000107
Suellen
pythondev_help_Suellen_2017-12-14T11:38:35.000107
1,513,251,515.000107
103,810
pythondev
help
that's good
2017-12-14T11:38:36.000626
Suellen
pythondev_help_Suellen_2017-12-14T11:38:36.000626
1,513,251,516.000626
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pythondev
help
what a rush
2017-12-14T11:38:43.000488
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T11:38:43.000488
1,513,251,523.000488
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pythondev
help
<@Ciera> so <http://pypy.org|pypy.org> and download the interpreter?
2017-12-14T11:38:59.000486
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T11:38:59.000486
1,513,251,539.000486
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pythondev
help
!= <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pipi>
2017-12-14T11:39:02.000109
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:39:02.000109
1,513,251,542.000109
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pythondev
help
yeah with a bit of luck it should automagically work
2017-12-14T11:39:42.000695
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:39:42.000695
1,513,251,582.000695
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pythondev
help
it shouldn’t? :stuck_out_tongue:
2017-12-14T11:40:09.000346
Junita
pythondev_help_Junita_2017-12-14T11:40:09.000346
1,513,251,609.000346
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pythondev
help
Hopefully im not lucky
2017-12-14T11:40:17.000562
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T11:40:17.000562
1,513,251,617.000562
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pythondev
help
*IIRC*, you need python to use C to use python to create the python interpreter so not as easy as "download the interpreter", you'll need to build it. Last I saw it was a long build time.
2017-12-14T11:40:27.000443
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:40:27.000443
1,513,251,627.000443
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pythondev
help
can someone tell me I'm wrong and that you can download it?
2017-12-14T11:40:52.000010
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:40:52.000010
1,513,251,652.00001
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pythondev
help
it's late here :coffee: :cry:
2017-12-14T11:40:57.000619
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:40:57.000619
1,513,251,657.000619
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pythondev
help
I have a download im looking at here
2017-12-14T11:41:00.000783
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T11:41:00.000783
1,513,251,660.000783
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pythondev
help
I think there’s a binary distribution for it.
2017-12-14T11:41:04.000085
Junita
pythondev_help_Junita_2017-12-14T11:41:04.000085
1,513,251,664.000085
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pythondev
help
BUT Idk
2017-12-14T11:41:06.000044
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T11:41:06.000044
1,513,251,666.000044
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pythondev
help
at the very least, you'll learn a lot :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-12-14T11:41:33.000345
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:41:33.000345
1,513,251,693.000345
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pythondev
help
Looks like they have SVM here <http://buildbot.pypy.org/nightly/trunk/>
2017-12-14T11:42:36.000339
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T11:42:36.000339
1,513,251,756.000339
103,825
pythondev
help
Where are you at?
2017-12-14T11:43:09.000300
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:43:09.000300
1,513,251,789.0003
103,826
pythondev
help
I'm in belgium. It's not that late but it's getting dark
2017-12-14T11:43:37.000319
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:43:37.000319
1,513,251,817.000319
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pythondev
help
My brother-in-law lived there for 10+ years, he's from California so there was a bit of weather shock. He loved it otherwise.
2017-12-14T11:44:16.000048
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:44:16.000048
1,513,251,856.000048
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pythondev
help
I think he lived in Leuven, spoke Dutch and English, had to learn French
2017-12-14T11:44:56.000115
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:44:56.000115
1,513,251,896.000115
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pythondev
help
yeah the weather is not too good at the moment :disappointed:
2017-12-14T11:45:06.000156
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:45:06.000156
1,513,251,906.000156
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pythondev
help
Leuven is pretty nice.
2017-12-14T11:45:19.000171
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:45:19.000171
1,513,251,919.000171
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pythondev
help
he tells the story of over a 100 days of no sun and he had an upcoming bike trip
2017-12-14T11:45:43.000304
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:45:43.000304
1,513,251,943.000304
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pythondev
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haha 100 days of no sun is a bit exagerated :smile: we are not England
2017-12-14T11:46:11.000519
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:46:11.000519
1,513,251,971.000519
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pythondev
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just as he goes on his trip, the sun opens up for 5 or 6 days and he has this glorious ride and then it goes back to cloudy, he said the whole country kinda slumps
2017-12-14T11:46:14.000466
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:46:14.000466
1,513,251,974.000466
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pythondev
help
well it's a shithole afterall :trollface: :trump:
2017-12-14T11:47:44.000718
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:47:44.000718
1,513,252,064.000718
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pythondev
help
are you Belgian?
2017-12-14T11:48:00.000478
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:48:00.000478
1,513,252,080.000478
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pythondev
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yeah. I was born in France but moved to belgium when I was 12
2017-12-14T11:48:45.000102
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:48:45.000102
1,513,252,125.000102
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pythondev
help
Alright about to try it out
2017-12-14T11:49:00.000121
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T11:49:00.000121
1,513,252,140.000121
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pythondev
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where are you at ? I suppose US west ?
2017-12-14T11:50:02.000802
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:50:02.000802
1,513,252,202.000802
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pythondev
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northern California, east of San Francisco
2017-12-14T11:50:21.000399
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:50:21.000399
1,513,252,221.000399
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pythondev
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it's been 4 to 16 degrees out here and I'm not use to this, I'm from southern california
2017-12-14T11:50:58.000175
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:50:58.000175
1,513,252,258.000175
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pythondev
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I have thermals and ear muffs , often in the house
2017-12-14T11:51:18.000425
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:51:18.000425
1,513,252,278.000425
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pythondev
help
is that °F or °C ?
2017-12-14T11:51:24.000728
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:51:24.000728
1,513,252,284.000728
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pythondev
help
C
2017-12-14T11:51:27.000129
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:51:27.000129
1,513,252,287.000129
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pythondev
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ah yeah that's pretty cool for California
2017-12-14T11:51:46.000744
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:51:46.000744
1,513,252,306.000744
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pythondev
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it's around 0° here
2017-12-14T11:51:53.000287
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:51:53.000287
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pythondev
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you don't have good heating in the house ? More focused on cooling usually ?
2017-12-14T11:52:29.000148
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:52:29.000148
1,513,252,349.000148
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pythondev
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brrr, I live on the way to the mountains so if I was a skiing fan this would be great, about 2 hours to some great slopes. Too bad I can't deal with the cold.
2017-12-14T11:52:42.000489
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:52:42.000489
1,513,252,362.000489
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pythondev
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Most of the houses in US are old double-pane windows that no longer hold the insulation, often about 2000square feet, so the heaters are kind of useless, the concern in most of the state is air conditioning
2017-12-14T11:53:30.000502
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:53:30.000502
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pythondev
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yeah well I guess in the south temperature are usually higher.
2017-12-14T11:54:10.000440
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:54:10.000440
1,513,252,450.00044
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It's highly variable too, in San Francisco, you might never use your heater but a couple of weeks a year because the proximity to the ocean keeps the temperature even
2017-12-14T11:54:24.000188
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:54:24.000188
1,513,252,464.000188
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pythondev
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at least in Belgium house have good insulation and heating
2017-12-14T11:54:54.000815
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:54:54.000815
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but then in the summer when there is a bit of sun nobody can handle it
2017-12-14T11:55:17.000384
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:55:17.000384
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central california is a giant, and I mean HUGE valley, easily ges in the 100s.... errr 40+, part of southern california too but the closer to the beach, the less craziness, the more expensive, nice community,etc
2017-12-14T11:55:19.000431
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:55:19.000431
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pythondev
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I couldn't deal with 40+ :smile:
2017-12-14T11:55:38.000640
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:55:38.000640
1,513,252,538.00064
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pythondev
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is air conditioning a normal thing to have?
2017-12-14T11:55:39.000054
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:55:39.000054
1,513,252,539.000054
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pythondev
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no, nobody has it
2017-12-14T11:55:49.001005
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:55:49.001005
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that's interesting, how many times a year would you say it's needed?
2017-12-14T11:56:23.000015
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:56:23.000015
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pythondev
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you would only use it for a few weeks over the year. nt worth it
2017-12-14T11:56:24.000309
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:56:24.000309
1,513,252,584.000309
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pythondev
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Seattle is like that and they've been having warm, dry summers. My (ex) co-workers were miseable, weeks of hot, muggy, no relief, no way to cool at night
2017-12-14T11:57:08.000066
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:57:08.000066
1,513,252,628.000066
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pythondev
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you working on any interesting projects?
2017-12-14T11:57:50.000266
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:57:50.000266
1,513,252,670.000266
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pythondev
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yeah it's usually like that. But temp rarely reach 30
2017-12-14T11:57:51.000436
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:57:51.000436
1,513,252,671.000436
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Average should be about 24-25 in the summer
2017-12-14T11:58:07.000072
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:58:07.000072
1,513,252,687.000072
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pythondev
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that's nice!
2017-12-14T11:58:27.000589
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:58:27.000589
1,513,252,707.000589
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pythondev
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Yeah I was working on making our postgresql replicate, and before that on a SIP server with asyncio
2017-12-14T11:58:46.000372
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:58:46.000372
1,513,252,726.000372
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pythondev
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pretty cool stuff to do
2017-12-14T11:58:56.000348
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:58:56.000348
1,513,252,736.000348
103,866
pythondev
help
and you ?
2017-12-14T11:58:59.000300
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T11:58:59.000300
1,513,252,739.0003
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pythondev
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lately, tinkering, I'm hobbyist not full-time programmer. I've been playing with Dask <http://dask.pydata.org/en/latest/>
2017-12-14T11:59:43.000172
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T11:59:43.000172
1,513,252,783.000172
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pythondev
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Also, been trying to figure out how I can level up, my decorators, metaclasses, context managers, properties knowledge is non-existent
2017-12-14T12:00:21.000328
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T12:00:21.000328
1,513,252,821.000328
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pythondev
help
do you roll your own SIP?
2017-12-14T12:00:51.000296
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T12:00:51.000296
1,513,252,851.000296
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pythondev
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I don't really know anything about datascience / analytics in python but it looks interesting :smile:
2017-12-14T12:01:05.000598
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T12:01:05.000598
1,513,252,865.000598
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pythondev
help
well it's always by doing that you learn, there is no secret.
2017-12-14T12:01:31.000399
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T12:01:31.000399
1,513,252,891.000399
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pythondev
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True
2017-12-14T12:01:40.000484
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T12:01:40.000484
1,513,252,900.000484
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No but we have the need for a custom SIP server/proxy in some specific cases
2017-12-14T12:01:58.000798
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T12:01:58.000798
1,513,252,918.000798
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I used to manage the VOIP and the Lync servers, some of that stuff is black magic, some of it cool, most of it a pain
2017-12-14T12:02:32.000130
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T12:02:32.000130
1,513,252,952.00013
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pythondev
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If you haven't already watched them I can recommend all the raymond hettinger talks
2017-12-14T12:02:32.000430
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T12:02:32.000430
1,513,252,952.00043
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I like his, then I'll balance it with a Dave Beazley talk just to keep it light, lol
2017-12-14T12:03:09.000156
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T12:03:09.000156
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Most of it was a pain to do :smile: but we got something working. It's not perfect but does the job
2017-12-14T12:03:14.000045
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T12:03:14.000045
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<https://github.com/Eyepea/aiosip>
2017-12-14T12:03:24.000587
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T12:03:24.000587
1,513,253,004.000587
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"proto-duction"
2017-12-14T12:03:27.000229
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T12:03:27.000229
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David Beazley is like the crazy uncle of python
2017-12-14T12:03:36.000124
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T12:03:36.000124
1,513,253,016.000124
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I have to go. talk to you later :wave:
2017-12-14T12:04:14.000802
Ciera
pythondev_help_Ciera_2017-12-14T12:04:14.000802
1,513,253,054.000802
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take it easy
2017-12-14T12:04:20.000013
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T12:04:20.000013
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o/
2017-12-14T12:04:21.000462
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T12:04:21.000462
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Alright installed the binaries but there is no actual binary anywhere
2017-12-14T12:05:27.000024
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T12:05:27.000024
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start a new shell session?
2017-12-14T12:06:35.000607
Junita
pythondev_help_Junita_2017-12-14T12:06:35.000607
1,513,253,195.000607
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On Windows fyi (save me). But it's nowhere at all let me see if this works gonna download one of the newer binaries
2017-12-14T12:07:27.000208
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T12:07:27.000208
1,513,253,247.000208
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help
ahhh there it is
2017-12-14T12:07:33.000692
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T12:07:33.000692
1,513,253,253.000692
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ah, no idea about windows. :slightly_smiling_face:
2017-12-14T12:08:12.000610
Junita
pythondev_help_Junita_2017-12-14T12:08:12.000610
1,513,253,292.00061
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help
Yeah I got it. I guess I downloaded the source but for some reason there was no distinction between the two
2017-12-14T12:08:37.000562
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T12:08:37.000562
1,513,253,317.000562
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pythondev
help
Alright im excited to see how this works with pypy
2017-12-14T12:12:51.000520
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T12:12:51.000520
1,513,253,571.00052
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pythondev
help
just as slow so far in pypy as normal python build
2017-12-14T12:15:57.000468
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T12:15:57.000468
1,513,253,757.000468
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pythondev
help
:disappointed:
2017-12-14T12:16:11.000389
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T12:16:11.000389
1,513,253,771.000389
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pythondev
help
Hello, I've got a celery worker that runs task that involves calling `subprocess.check_call(cmd)`. The cmd is a Python script. Is it possible to debug it using Pycharm inside a Celery worker debugger?
2017-12-14T12:25:00.000859
Mirian
pythondev_help_Mirian_2017-12-14T12:25:00.000859
1,513,254,300.000859
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pythondev
help
Sweet! Implemented multiprocess and the speed has doubled so far non pypy
2017-12-14T12:25:33.000307
Myong
pythondev_help_Myong_2017-12-14T12:25:33.000307
1,513,254,333.000307
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pythondev
help
<@Myong> play around with it, I've even heard of things initially going slower on pypy before going MANY times faster
2017-12-14T12:25:43.000827
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T12:25:43.000827
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nice
2017-12-14T12:25:53.000491
Seema
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Worth running on pypy with multiprocessing?
2017-12-14T12:26:13.000440
Myong
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<@Mirian> if you set `CELERY_ALWAYS_EAGER = True` in settings, then the worker will run synchronously and you’ll be able to debug in pycharm
2017-12-14T12:26:53.000801
Meg
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but not sure whether you’d be able to hook into the subprocess. that might be best left as a standalone debug, where your inputs match those from the subprocess call
2017-12-14T12:27:35.000423
Meg
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that's a good question (euphemism for I don't actually know), though pypy is an interpreter with a GIL, I would imagine you'd see improvements
2017-12-14T12:29:01.000081
Seema
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do tell how it turns out if you do
2017-12-14T12:29:20.000201
Seema
pythondev_help_Seema_2017-12-14T12:29:20.000201
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