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pythondev | help | Hi,
I’ve been having some issues with class attributes and properties (python 3). I know how getters and setters are generally used and that it’s the pythonic way to use the `@property` to achieve define getters and setters when they are required.
Any feedback is appreciated. Sorry for the longish quesiton.
Now my q... | 2019-03-04T14:26:28.466100 | Dominga | pythondev_help_Dominga_2019-03-04T14:26:28.466100 | 1,551,709,588.4661 | 11,921 |
pythondev | help | Why do you want to use a setter but hide it? | 2019-03-04T14:28:30.467200 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:28:30.467200 | 1,551,709,710.4672 | 11,922 |
pythondev | help | so, first of all the `_` is convention, nothing _stops_ client code from using it. That aside, you can use the property assignment instead of the decorator | 2019-03-04T14:28:40.467300 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:28:40.467300 | 1,551,709,720.4673 | 11,923 |
pythondev | help | This is what you would do - it is not an accepted answer, but it is correct <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42137210/python-property-with-public-getter-and-private-setter> | 2019-03-04T14:29:07.468000 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:29:07.468000 | 1,551,709,747.468 | 11,924 |
pythondev | help | thank you <@Clemmie>, I’ll have a look at that link
<@Lillia> I thought that it could be used to validate the data for the attribute when set internally by my class. Would such a validation be unnecessary if the attribute is set internally by the class? | 2019-03-04T14:35:17.470400 | Dominga | pythondev_help_Dominga_2019-03-04T14:35:17.470400 | 1,551,710,117.4704 | 11,925 |
pythondev | help | Can't you do the validation in the method that's setting the new value? | 2019-03-04T14:35:36.470700 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:35:36.470700 | 1,551,710,136.4707 | 11,926 |
pythondev | help | Getters/setters make the life of the caller easier, that's really it. | 2019-03-04T14:35:54.471100 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:35:54.471100 | 1,551,710,154.4711 | 11,927 |
pythondev | help | Makes for less typing. | 2019-03-04T14:36:07.471500 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:36:07.471500 | 1,551,710,167.4715 | 11,928 |
pythondev | help | I wouldn't add unnecessary boilerplate if you're already setting the value yourself. | 2019-03-04T14:36:26.471800 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:36:26.471800 | 1,551,710,186.4718 | 11,929 |
pythondev | help | (I'll add a caveat, a setter _may_ be good if you use this validation in many places) | 2019-03-04T14:36:52.472500 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:36:52.472500 | 1,551,710,212.4725 | 11,930 |
pythondev | help | Actually I take that back; using a setter for validation is a bit weird. | 2019-03-04T14:40:01.476000 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:40:01.476000 | 1,551,710,401.476 | 11,931 |
pythondev | help | Validation on attribute change is a hard one. The client can still access the underlying attribute without calling the setter. It is kind of like front-end back-end validation. Good to do on the frontend for speed/clarity, but if you don’t check on the backend also you will compromised | 2019-03-04T14:40:32.477100 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:40:32.477100 | 1,551,710,432.4771 | 11,932 |
pythondev | help | So, by all means validate on change, but you should also when the value is _used_ | 2019-03-04T14:40:53.477900 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:40:53.477900 | 1,551,710,453.4779 | 11,933 |
pythondev | help | Hm, I thought it is more readable and contained in that class.
I have an instance of an Account class, modeling a bank account. For that bank account, I have a balance attribute and a corresponding setter, that checks if it ever drops below 0. If it does, it raises a ValueError.
I also have an Atm class which uses th... | 2019-03-04T14:41:01.478200 | Dominga | pythondev_help_Dominga_2019-03-04T14:41:01.478200 | 1,551,710,461.4782 | 11,934 |
pythondev | help | I would have `withdraw()` do the check. Adding a setter simply for validation is unneeded boilerplate. It doesn't make the life of the caller any easier. | 2019-03-04T14:41:49.479000 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:41:49.479000 | 1,551,710,509.479 | 11,935 |
pythondev | help | So what is a setter for if not for validation of the to be set value? | 2019-03-04T14:43:25.481600 | Dominga | pythondev_help_Dominga_2019-03-04T14:43:25.481600 | 1,551,710,605.4816 | 11,936 |
pythondev | help | <https://pythondev.slack.com/archives/C07EFMZ1N/p1551728154471100> | 2019-03-04T14:43:40.482000 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:43:40.482000 | 1,551,710,620.482 | 11,937 |
pythondev | help | For example, following your account example, you may want to do validation when a caller sets the actual account balance. | 2019-03-04T14:44:03.482900 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:44:03.482900 | 1,551,710,643.4829 | 11,938 |
pythondev | help | Rather than having `account.setBalance(x)`, you can define a setter and simply do `account.balance = x` | 2019-03-04T14:44:23.483700 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:44:23.483700 | 1,551,710,663.4837 | 11,939 |
pythondev | help | Hi guys,
I know this is a long shot, but I have 30mn left to deliver a project and no time to do manual edits, or write the script fast enough due to my basic knowledge.
I have 100+ json files, each file is stored in individual directory into my working directory. I need to update one value for one object in each file... | 2019-03-04T14:44:27.484000 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:44:27.484000 | 1,551,710,667.484 | 11,940 |
pythondev | help | Your setter can do the same validation that `setBalance` would have done, but it makes the syntax cleaner for the caller. Does that make sense? | 2019-03-04T14:44:53.484500 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:44:53.484500 | 1,551,710,693.4845 | 11,941 |
pythondev | help | You aren't expecting the caller to directly set the balance, correct? | 2019-03-04T14:45:16.485100 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:45:16.485100 | 1,551,710,716.4851 | 11,942 |
pythondev | help | linux or windows? | 2019-03-04T14:45:49.485300 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:45:49.485300 | 1,551,710,749.4853 | 11,943 |
pythondev | help | macOS :smile: | 2019-03-04T14:45:55.485700 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:45:55.485700 | 1,551,710,755.4857 | 11,944 |
pythondev | help | ok, great, you have a terminal | 2019-03-04T14:46:04.486000 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:46:04.486000 | 1,551,710,764.486 | 11,945 |
pythondev | help | yes, i know python basics and for loops | 2019-03-04T14:46:29.486700 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:46:29.486700 | 1,551,710,789.4867 | 11,946 |
pythondev | help | but not enough about json specifically | 2019-03-04T14:46:33.487000 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:46:33.487000 | 1,551,710,793.487 | 11,947 |
pythondev | help | what is the value you need to change, and is it part of a string that is unique in each file? | 2019-03-04T14:46:33.487100 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:46:33.487100 | 1,551,710,793.4871 | 11,948 |
pythondev | help | That makes sense.
That is correct. The caller would invoke the `withdraw` method of the account object, which would set the balance internally. | 2019-03-04T14:46:34.487400 | Dominga | pythondev_help_Dominga_2019-03-04T14:46:34.487400 | 1,551,710,794.4874 | 11,949 |
pythondev | help | Right; you already have methods that the caller will use. Those methods can do the validation just fine. | 2019-03-04T14:46:54.488100 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:46:54.488100 | 1,551,710,814.4881 | 11,950 |
pythondev | help | Ahhh, so if my Atm class would set the balance directly, then it would make sense to create a setter? | 2019-03-04T14:46:58.488400 | Dominga | pythondev_help_Dominga_2019-03-04T14:46:58.488400 | 1,551,710,818.4884 | 11,951 |
pythondev | help | Correct! | 2019-03-04T14:47:02.488600 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:47:02.488600 | 1,551,710,822.4886 | 11,952 |
pythondev | help | Sample file:
```{
"version": "1.0",
"identifier": "2854-1269-8-1",
"title": "Welcome To The World Of More",
"language": "en"
}``` | 2019-03-04T14:47:05.488800 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:47:05.488800 | 1,551,710,825.4888 | 11,953 |
pythondev | help | And do you need to maintain the directory strucutre | 2019-03-04T14:47:10.489100 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:47:10.489100 | 1,551,710,830.4891 | 11,954 |
pythondev | help | Thank you very much. | 2019-03-04T14:47:13.489400 | Dominga | pythondev_help_Dominga_2019-03-04T14:47:13.489400 | 1,551,710,833.4894 | 11,955 |
pythondev | help | i need to change the language value to `fr` | 2019-03-04T14:47:14.489500 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:47:14.489500 | 1,551,710,834.4895 | 11,956 |
pythondev | help | Yes, i need to keep that structure | 2019-03-04T14:47:26.489800 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:47:26.489800 | 1,551,710,846.4898 | 11,957 |
pythondev | help | ok, give me a couple of minutes | 2019-03-04T14:47:34.490000 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:47:34.490000 | 1,551,710,854.49 | 11,958 |
pythondev | help | Thanks!! | 2019-03-04T14:47:44.490200 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:47:44.490200 | 1,551,710,864.4902 | 11,959 |
pythondev | help | saving my ass | 2019-03-04T14:47:46.490500 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:47:46.490500 | 1,551,710,866.4905 | 11,960 |
pythondev | help | <@Lillia> and <@Clemmie> thanks for your time and the explanations. I appreciate it. | 2019-03-04T14:48:20.491100 | Dominga | pythondev_help_Dominga_2019-03-04T14:48:20.491100 | 1,551,710,900.4911 | 11,961 |
pythondev | help | Welcome! | 2019-03-04T14:48:34.491300 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:48:34.491300 | 1,551,710,914.4913 | 11,962 |
pythondev | help | Good questions | 2019-03-04T14:48:46.491500 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:48:46.491500 | 1,551,710,926.4915 | 11,963 |
pythondev | help | Heh heh, this is like a coding challenge competition. | 2019-03-04T14:49:45.491700 | Sasha | pythondev_help_Sasha_2019-03-04T14:49:45.491700 | 1,551,710,985.4917 | 11,964 |
pythondev | help | is there a single file in each directory, and nothing else? | 2019-03-04T14:50:53.491900 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:50:53.491900 | 1,551,711,053.4919 | 11,965 |
pythondev | help | yes | 2019-03-04T14:50:57.492100 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:50:57.492100 | 1,551,711,057.4921 | 11,966 |
pythondev | help | ok, first, make a whole copy of your directory structure in case we screw up | 2019-03-04T14:51:18.492300 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:51:18.492300 | 1,551,711,078.4923 | 11,967 |
pythondev | help | `/dir/file1.json`
`/dir/file2.json`
`/dir/file3.json` | 2019-03-04T14:51:23.492500 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:51:23.492500 | 1,551,711,083.4925 | 11,968 |
pythondev | help | ok | 2019-03-04T14:51:30.492700 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:51:30.492700 | 1,551,711,090.4927 | 11,969 |
pythondev | help | wait | 2019-03-04T14:52:24.493000 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:52:24.493000 | 1,551,711,144.493 | 11,970 |
pythondev | help | the directory structure above is innacurate, one second | 2019-03-04T14:52:32.493200 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:52:32.493200 | 1,551,711,152.4932 | 11,971 |
pythondev | help | then in a terminal that is at the root of the directory structure you will want to run `sed -i 's/"language": "en"/"language": "fr"/g" */*.json` | 2019-03-04T14:52:32.493300 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:52:32.493300 | 1,551,711,152.4933 | 11,972 |
pythondev | help | `sed` ! | 2019-03-04T14:52:39.493600 | Lillia | pythondev_help_Lillia_2019-03-04T14:52:39.493600 | 1,551,711,159.4936 | 11,973 |
pythondev | help | `/dir/a1/file.json`
`/dir/a2/file.json`
`/dir/a3/file.json` | 2019-03-04T14:52:52.493900 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:52:52.493900 | 1,551,711,172.4939 | 11,974 |
pythondev | help | that says “use the stream editor in place to replace string 1 with sdtring 2, globally in each file | 2019-03-04T14:53:07.494200 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:53:07.494200 | 1,551,711,187.4942 | 11,975 |
pythondev | help | ok, so first i cd to my test directory | 2019-03-04T14:53:34.494400 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:53:34.494400 | 1,551,711,214.4944 | 11,976 |
pythondev | help | yup | 2019-03-04T14:53:43.494600 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:53:43.494600 | 1,551,711,223.4946 | 11,977 |
pythondev | help | Watch out for the quote after `/g`. | 2019-03-04T14:53:59.494800 | Sasha | pythondev_help_Sasha_2019-03-04T14:53:59.494800 | 1,551,711,239.4948 | 11,978 |
pythondev | help | yup, my bad - should be a single `'` | 2019-03-04T14:54:19.495000 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:54:19.495000 | 1,551,711,259.495 | 11,979 |
pythondev | help | its not meant to be there? | 2019-03-04T14:54:20.495200 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:54:20.495200 | 1,551,711,260.4952 | 11,980 |
pythondev | help | oki | 2019-03-04T14:54:25.495400 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:54:25.495400 | 1,551,711,265.4954 | 11,981 |
pythondev | help | `sed -i 's/"language": "en"/"language": "fr"/g' */*.json` | 2019-03-04T14:54:36.495600 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:54:36.495600 | 1,551,711,276.4956 | 11,982 |
pythondev | help | `sed -i 's/"language": "en"/"language": "fr"/g' */*.json` | 2019-03-04T14:54:38.495800 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:54:38.495800 | 1,551,711,278.4958 | 11,983 |
pythondev | help | this is why we copied first | 2019-03-04T14:54:45.496000 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:54:45.496000 | 1,551,711,285.496 | 11,984 |
pythondev | help | `sed: 1: "1/article.json": invalid command code /` | 2019-03-04T14:55:05.496200 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:55:05.496200 | 1,551,711,305.4962 | 11,985 |
pythondev | help | hopefully yes. we may need to do some string escaping to make it work for sure | 2019-03-04T14:55:07.496400 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:55:07.496400 | 1,551,711,307.4964 | 11,986 |
pythondev | help | I think this is connected to my directory structure | 2019-03-04T14:55:13.496600 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:55:13.496600 | 1,551,711,313.4966 | 11,987 |
pythondev | help | the error | 2019-03-04T14:55:16.496800 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:55:16.496800 | 1,551,711,316.4968 | 11,988 |
pythondev | help | nope on os x I forgot -e | 2019-03-04T14:55:28.497000 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:55:28.497000 | 1,551,711,328.497 | 11,989 |
pythondev | help | `sed -i -e 's/"language": "en"/"language": "fr"/g' */*.json` | 2019-03-04T14:55:46.497200 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:55:46.497200 | 1,551,711,346.4972 | 11,990 |
pythondev | help | ok, it ran | 2019-03-04T14:55:57.497400 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:55:57.497400 | 1,551,711,357.4974 | 11,991 |
pythondev | help | let me check the output :smile: | 2019-03-04T14:56:00.497600 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:56:00.497600 | 1,551,711,360.4976 | 11,992 |
pythondev | help | or maybe not, one second | 2019-03-04T14:56:07.497800 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:56:07.497800 | 1,551,711,367.4978 | 11,993 |
pythondev | help | it worked!! | 2019-03-04T14:56:25.498000 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:56:25.498000 | 1,551,711,385.498 | 11,994 |
pythondev | help | but | 2019-03-04T14:56:27.498200 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:56:27.498200 | 1,551,711,387.4982 | 11,995 |
pythondev | help | it created a duplicate file too, with `file.json-e` | 2019-03-04T14:56:48.498400 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:56:48.498400 | 1,551,711,408.4984 | 11,996 |
pythondev | help | I thought it might | 2019-03-04T14:57:07.498600 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:57:07.498600 | 1,551,711,427.4986 | 11,997 |
pythondev | help | does the txt look correct in those? | 2019-03-04T14:57:14.498800 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:57:14.498800 | 1,551,711,434.4988 | 11,998 |
pythondev | help | no | 2019-03-04T14:57:34.499000 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:57:34.499000 | 1,551,711,454.499 | 11,999 |
pythondev | help | the -e files seem to have the old data | 2019-03-04T14:57:40.499200 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:57:40.499200 | 1,551,711,460.4992 | 12,000 |
pythondev | help | and the files with the proper name, have the proper data | 2019-03-04T14:57:49.499400 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:57:49.499400 | 1,551,711,469.4994 | 12,001 |
pythondev | help | is there a way to not generate the second file? | 2019-03-04T14:58:07.499600 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:58:07.499600 | 1,551,711,487.4996 | 12,002 |
pythondev | help | ok, different try | 2019-03-04T14:58:21.499800 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:58:21.499800 | 1,551,711,501.4998 | 12,003 |
pythondev | help | I think yes, try this | 2019-03-04T14:58:34.500000 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:58:34.500000 | 1,551,711,514.5 | 12,004 |
pythondev | help | `sed -i'' 's/"language": "en"/"language": "fr"/g' */*.json` | 2019-03-04T14:59:08.500200 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:59:08.500200 | 1,551,711,548.5002 | 12,005 |
pythondev | help | ok | 2019-03-04T14:59:19.500400 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:59:19.500400 | 1,551,711,559.5004 | 12,006 |
pythondev | help | Error: `sed: 1: "1/article.json": invalid command code /` | 2019-03-04T14:59:31.500600 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:59:31.500600 | 1,551,711,571.5006 | 12,007 |
pythondev | help | we’ll get it | 2019-03-04T14:59:43.500800 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:59:43.500800 | 1,551,711,583.5008 | 12,008 |
pythondev | help | how much time do you have? | 2019-03-04T14:59:48.501000 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:59:48.501000 | 1,551,711,588.501 | 12,009 |
pythondev | help | 15mn before i get in trouble, more or less | 2019-03-04T14:59:56.501200 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T14:59:56.501200 | 1,551,711,596.5012 | 12,010 |
pythondev | help | May be easier to just mass-delete the `-e` files? | 2019-03-04T14:59:58.501400 | Sasha | pythondev_help_Sasha_2019-03-04T14:59:58.501400 | 1,551,711,598.5014 | 12,011 |
pythondev | help | ok | 2019-03-04T14:59:59.501600 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T14:59:59.501600 | 1,551,711,599.5016 | 12,012 |
pythondev | help | going to the bathroom for 1mn | 2019-03-04T15:01:52.501900 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T15:01:52.501900 | 1,551,711,712.5019 | 12,013 |
pythondev | help | <@Lillia> <@Jettie> that worked thanks a bunch. just didn't expect the format to be in bytes so I will try with mode='rt' | 2019-03-04T15:02:46.502800 | Alvina | pythondev_help_Alvina_2019-03-04T15:02:46.502800 | 1,551,711,766.5028 | 12,014 |
pythondev | help | Am back! | 2019-03-04T15:04:33.503000 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T15:04:33.503000 | 1,551,711,873.503 | 12,015 |
pythondev | help | working on it | 2019-03-04T15:06:35.503200 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T15:06:35.503200 | 1,551,711,995.5032 | 12,016 |
pythondev | help | `find ~/tmp/a -type f -exec sed -i '' 's/"language": "en"/"language": "fr"/g' {} \;` make sure to replace `/tmp/a` with the path to your current directory | 2019-03-04T15:07:55.503400 | Clemmie | pythondev_help_Clemmie_2019-03-04T15:07:55.503400 | 1,551,712,075.5034 | 12,017 |
pythondev | help | yay, all set. | 2019-03-04T15:08:31.503800 | Alvina | pythondev_help_Alvina_2019-03-04T15:08:31.503800 | 1,551,712,111.5038 | 12,018 |
pythondev | help | wait | 2019-03-04T15:09:34.504000 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T15:09:34.504000 | 1,551,712,174.504 | 12,019 |
pythondev | help | your command worked , i think you missed a space | 2019-03-04T15:09:43.504200 | Ludie | pythondev_help_Ludie_2019-03-04T15:09:43.504200 | 1,551,712,183.5042 | 12,020 |
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