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couldn't survive on a government salary and at the end of the month have 200 rupees or 300 rupees left in my bank balance so I had an offer from Ananda Bazar patrika they were doing a new television program on doordarshan called business breakfast so they asked me whether I want to Anchor it I said sure So 9 all of 95 ...
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become today uh and everybody came I I you know for for 18 months I did this program there's one critic who called you the Aishwarya Rai of yeah yeah you know all sorts of names were you embarrassed we told me that absolutely but it was fun it was fun we were getting different uh different people on the show getting bu...
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years on campus never saw a leopard in my life never 12 years I was on campus yeah you see what has happened is just across the pipeline the water Pipeline and the IIT campus this is the Arab milk colony and then there is the borivali you know the national park human habitation is also coming human encroachments have t...
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all the things that you know normal middle class South Indian family yeah families are expected so you did engineering because your dad said you're 100 yeah 16 uh I had no intention of joining IIT my father was a professor in IIT so he forced me to join IIT Bombay I'm so glad that I at the age of 21 when I got my degre...
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your PhD actually after one and a half years I just discovered this is not my cup of tea okay I couldn't complete uh you know MIT yeah I would take four years to complete and then at the end of it I'd be an academic so just I didn't have the intellectual rigor at that time and I came back I had a good offer I came back...
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Bharat jodo why has the Gandhi family picked you I think you should ask Mr Sonia next time I am going to come to you to tell her to come to this podcast is I certainly request her I certainly tell her that I was asked why you have appointed me and you are the only person I would have asked this to nurse who picked you ...
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ah okay I started using a laptop in 1990. I was probably the first man in government of India to have a laptop I had a small Zenith laptop it was made in Rajiv Gandhi's computer voice computer I was the first one who had a laptop okay it was a literally a laptop it was made in Taiwan got into India it seeps the Santa C...
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mean the one thing that has always been with me I wanted to work in the public domain so that's why you know in 81 when I 80 when I came back I started working in the government of India and I worked in different I worked in the ministry of Industry then Dr Manmohan Singh recruited me into the Planning Commission with ...
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so I said sir this is what I'm doing you know and then he said well it doesn't sound very exciting why don't you come and work with me for the elections so I said elections are you going to call have elections soon so he said could be this was December of 19 uh 90. right so I started working with Mr Gandhi in December ...
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no no [Music] so I started working with him uh and then uh then you know Congress lost power in 96. uh Mr chilambaram asked me to join him in the finance ministry when he was always this this kind of a bureaucratic rajya Sabha I mean that's the criticism that you've been around for 40 years but you haven't come for an ...
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one that if I am in politics I'm going to be a backroom political animal I'm going to be and you know I even I'm going to be an intellectual in politics although the intellectuals think I'm a politicians and the politicians think I'm an intellectual exactly now I didn't want to say this is the worst the worst abuse you...
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entirely different the Indian Freedom Movement was all well-read people yes extraordinarily well read and they wrote books and they didn't have ghost written books they wrote books on their own you know unlike many people in politics who have ghost written books ghost writers these people Raja kabalachari nehru Bose Ga...
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it changed because today if there is one instrument of social mobility in India it's not the media it's not the corporate sector it's not the bureaucracy it's politics its politics has given voice and identity to people from sections of society which have been discriminated and disadvantaged for centuries and yet at on...
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the world is enough for everybody's need but not enough for everybody's greedy never said that but we like to think that he said it okay so that's one of those comments that uh did you get miffed at times when if you didn't get a job you had to quit you because you didn't play to the gallery you didn't do the Jesus you...
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you know we had to use the toilet yeah and um it was it was no not even khichdi the khichdi comes after remembering UPA is formed after but our entire campaign in 2004 and as Mr vajpai was asked once by the kawha so in his inimitable Style remarkeda this is a victory that the victors didn't expect and this was a victor...
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uh we were the party in power I still ran the campaign in 2009 but nevertheless it was an easier camp been because we were running it as a incumbent government and I actually to be honest with you I did not expect to get more than 175 or 180 seats my late friend and his colleague who worked with me Mr Ahmed Patel and I...
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you've worked with narsimara you were in the you were in OSD at that time right you've worked in that you knew that uh you know they were talking about um the India shining thing why couldn't you at that time say that hey we had the 1991 reforms we were the ones who ushered in somehow the congress party doesn't Embrace...
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were incomplete or something then you get up to defend or not you as such but I mean the congress party it's never given due to that period and never oh that's not exactly true but remember just the open Columns of maybe this party is basically a center left party it's not a left of center party it's a center left part...
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you know narasimharav didn't believe in these reforms in 91. he you know we would discuss every day and he would say this is my compulsion but by 93 Mr narasim Rao would go to Davos and say this is my conviction so compulsion becomes conviction not right when you see that people have benefited results were coming out y...
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middle ground at every point of time you find the middle ground and if you don't find the middle ground there are some times in which you don't find the middle ground then you go by the book so the reason why I threw the book at vedanta on name is because they had violated every single environmental law the reason why ...
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was the one who introduced the cheetah project I saw your Twitter put out the letter to show that the Prime Minister stratified right I'll tell you why it didn't Rectify I went to South Africa in 2010 I identified the place where we were going to get cheaters and some people went to the Supreme Court because you were b...
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says no no this is Gujarati asmita I will not let the lion go from gear and that's why you know that Kuno had to be developed as a cheetah habitat now the point I'm making is that this again is an example uh the people went to the Supreme Court and for Supreme Court for seven years why would the Supreme Court of India ...
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at one point of time for bringing in the uh the Chinese Telecom uh you were in China and you said that the home Ministry is being extremely we should we should have we should be more pragmatic in Hinds exactly in hindsight do you by the way I worked very well with the Chinese on the climate change negotiations I set up...
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out areas of cooperation was the Paradigm that was set in December of 1988 when Mr Rajiv Gandhi and dung Xiaoping met now unfortunately the Chinese decided to break that Paradigm in 2020 and today that model is broken so we have to reset our entire relationship today if you were to ask me today if you were to ask me wo...
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also should do the same thing no so Indian Investments also were being promoted in China Chinese Investments were being promoted in India but in today's environment you know my approach to China has changed you know I wouldn't Advocate the same approach we have to get the politics of our relationship back uh on on the ...
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when you keep losing it's not targeting the party huh get this I'm not I'm not speaking on behalf of the media but generally when when the party doesn't even want to fight when the party doesn't even want to save a government which is in the doldrums because of various Mecca Nations which are happening the leadership d...
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thing and you've been in politics the Prime Minister you tried targeting the home minister did you be finished could anybody Target Mr chidambaram when he was home minister in the media he was oh come on operations anybody the only person a mythical operation greenhunt he was accused of he was accused of could anybody ...
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policy of the bjb BJP is only jio no mysterious when somebody put a Punjab on fire that you don't talk about of course it was talked about no no come on who criticized the RSS and the BJP for that do you know that when this this study on fire came up right if you remember Rajiv Gandhi's time there was this scorpionizin...
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a policy you attack me I'll attack you you try to defame me I will issue a notice to you I will if you are if you are going to be aggressive I'm going to be double leg super aggressive so I am not going to take it lying down now unfortunately that's not that was not my policy before but in the job I am in I have to set...
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own people inform our own people and choose our own people and then they will develop the courage and they will have the instruments to take on our political opponents the number of seats that you have in Parliament you certainly punch above your weight you know you're there in all TV debates you're there in the social...
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listen to you listen to him listen to me and you know then allow each of us to have a debate and the anchor itself himself or herself becomes an aggressive participant and he wants to bash up everybody else who has a different point of view I don't think that's fair so you think the format of Television is has broken c...
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they must be fair means about giving you enough time give me give must give us enough time they can't make fun of us they can't go after our spokespersons they can't run down our leadership and the language that you use also has to be somewhat dignified if you are also going to be descending to the level of the gutter ...
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am I'm sorry to say that but you know we are continuing I agree with you okay fine the channels I'm going to get out of but I do understand that uh you know that you you are miffed with some of them I get them with you also okay a lot of our people a lot of our senior leaders our spokespersons when I went to column whe...
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is setting in in the party what do we say oh in action in the party that's news can we do that right it's only when you guys started moving that it became a story you're getting up in the morning at 6 30 and starting to move when all other political parties are sleeping so it's news I'm glad right I'm glad you've woken...
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to 3 they have an interaction four o'clock we start walking again till 7 30. so we have seven hours of walking we cover about 21 22 kilometers now in that particular instance what happened was after he addressed a press conference he went back to his room and while he was going back to his room there were a bunch of yo...
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interactions take place they're not scripted they see he is the morning part of the yatra draws about 5 000 people they're not sanitized the interactions draw about 200 to 250 people they are not sanitized the second the part of the yatra which is from 4 to 7 30 draws 25 to 30 000 people they're all sanitized people ar...
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that it is just basically repackaging of RG and it is to motivate um to motivate the Cutters of the Congress rather than the the esoteric term of Bharat jodo no no it is a it is about a judo campaign in the context of the result of the policies of the Maori government which is leading to economic inequalities social po...
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congress party it is a mass contact program for the congress party which is after a long time has come on to the streets the district at the Block Level at the district level at the state level workers or coming out in hundreds and thousands literally and getting a new sense of participation so you don't see Congress h...
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know one of 120 but I keep telling him that the entire public focuses on you uh the media's focus is on you media doesn't want to interview me media wants to interview you right so he knows it but he is at pains even in the press conference at nagercoil he said when somebody asked him this question look I am one of the...
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this narrative is that these are the three big challenges that India faces that the result of Mr modi's ideology and his policies is economic inequality is increasing polarization is taking place and is intensifying and political centralization is resulting in States getting weaker constitutional bodies getting weaker ...
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prepared for a debate on a daily basis and then you have this uh you know jhoot Ki Rani saying that he never he went to kanyakumari and didn't go and visit Vivekananda Memorial we put out a video he started Memorial do you want to reduce the debate to this this level of falsification is it is it also a message that you...
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we are not are you if you're asking me are we doing this yatra for opposition Unity answer is no we are doing it for strengthening the congress party which we believe will be in the benefit of opposition Unity if and when this opposition Unity moves take complete shape in the run-up to 2024 right if and when that's not...
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have organizations they have mobile of course they have faces yeah of course foreign what did I say I said our elections are not a beauty contest between individuals they are a choice of political parties so political party May it is headed by individuals not headed by elephants I know individuals who've been in the Co...
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will do you become you know in spite of them led by opposition parties that's what I'm saying yeah that's what I want you cannot be led sorry when I say led by what I meant to say is that we cannot we cannot dance to the tune of somebody else okay we are the Congress is the pivot of any non-bjp coalition anybody who th...
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what gave instability to David gowda's government was the fact that the Congress was out what gave instability to Chandra shekhar was outside report yeah that's what I mean that's what I mean but that's because you guys chose to upa-1 and UPA 2 was the fact that the Congress was in your priority is to just to strengthe...
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I mean Rahul Gandhi keeps saying that you know there will be an election and I'm not the one because everybody he's been saying and and then if anybody wants to contest if anybody wants to contest he's welcome I was sitting in trivandrum press conference next to one potential Contender and I was asked this question so ...
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system for electing the president but why but once again we're not a party we're not we have not always elected a president we have elected elected a president only four occasions in 137 years but we are the only party that has provision and as and has the system for electing the election I believe my personal belief I...
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his supporters are completely out it's a winner take all model the consensus here the winner is going to be Rahul Gandhi regardless of who is if he's not Mr mother mystery has said very clearly there is no writing candidate you cannot write Rahul Gandhi on the uh you know on the ballot form the ballot form will only ha...
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the RSS occupy a unique Place uh in the in the business it's just that the people keep changing in the RSS right and people keep changing in the BJP but people don't change in the Gandhi family it's the family right I don't understand I don't frankly I don't understand the distinction that you're drawing the family has...
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be rejected by the shareholders that's a private Enterprise so let's not even get the private Enterprise built on public resources so don't draw this distinction don't draw this distinction in private in public what I'm saying is okay in in the public domain there's a certain sense of accountability people can reject y...
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know these decisions are taken these are not instantaneous decisions that take it taken now if fear that you are expressing that whoever comes on this is bharata and Lord Rama is somewhere else he's in the ayodhya uh he's in the you know yatra he'll finish the yatra and then the padukas will be removed and he will you ...
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tapasya I am doing tapasya he certainly doesn't want bhakti from all of us unlike many others in on the other side of the political Spectrum so you're going to come back to us after I will come back to you when the president I come back to you on the 1st of October evening in case the candidate is unanimous okay right ...
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