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| # AMR-010-0116 — Rank of direct powers of a hyperbolic group (Dani Wise's conjecture) |
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| ## Problem (corrected statement if needed) |
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| The dataset transcription is accurate. The original wording, from M. Bestvina, |
| *Questions in Geometric Group Theory* (updated July 2004), Question 1.16 |
| ([author PDF](https://www.math.utah.edu/~bestvina/eprints/questions-updated.pdf), verified |
| against the fetched source): |
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| > (Dani Wise) Let $G^n$ denote the Cartesian product of $n$ copies of the group $G$, and let |
| > $\operatorname{rank}(G^n)$ be the smallest number of generators of $G^n$. |
| > **Conjecture.** If $G$ is word-hyperbolic then |
| > $\displaystyle\lim_{n\to\infty}\operatorname{rank}(G^n)=\infty$. |
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| The notes in the source add: the conjecture is true for finite nontrivial $G$ by a pigeon-hole |
| argument; it is true whenever it holds for some quotient of $G$ (in particular when $G$ has a |
| proper finite-index subgroup); and it fails if there is an epimorphism $G \twoheadrightarrow G\times G$, |
| with Wise having an example of a 2-generator *infinitely presented* $C'(1/6)$ small cancellation |
| group witnessing this. The companion question Q 1.17 asks for "nice" (CAT(0), automatic, ...) |
| groups where the conjecture fails. |
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| The question originates in Wise's own paper: D. T. Wise, *The rank of a direct power of a |
| small-cancellation group*, Geom. Dedicata **94** (2002), 215–223, |
| [doi:10.1023/A:1020968914280](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1020968914280) |
| (existence and abstract verified via Springer and the Weizmann Institute publication record). |
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| ## Status / Literature |
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| **Open**, as far as I could verify (August 2026). I found no paper resolving the conjecture in |
| either direction; recent surveys and papers that cite Wise's conjecture (e.g. Coulon–Fournier-Facio |
| 2023, below) still treat growth sequences of infinite groups as "mysterious". The following |
| literature is verified (each item was checked against the arXiv API, the publisher page, or the |
| reference list of a verified paper): |
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| - **D. T. Wise (2002)**, *The rank of a direct power of a small-cancellation group*, Geom. Dedicata |
| 94, 215–223. Verified abstract: he constructs (i) a finitely generated $C'(1/6)$ group |
| $G_\infty$ with $\operatorname{rank}(G_\infty^n)=2$ for **all** $n$ — so the conjecture fails badly |
| for infinitely presented small cancellation groups; (ii) for each fixed $n$ a *finitely presented* |
| $C'(1/6)$ group $G_n$ with $\operatorname{rank}(G_n^n)=2$; (iii) a finitely generated $C'(1/6)$ |
| group $D$ with an epimorphism $D\twoheadrightarrow D\times D$; and (iv) for each $m$ a residually |
| finite $C'(1/6)$ group with no proper subgroups of index $\le m$. He explicitly conjectures the |
| positive statement for word-hyperbolic groups. |
| - **J. Wiegold & J. S. Wilson (1978)**, *Growth sequences of finitely generated groups*, |
| Arch. Math. (Basel) 30, 337–343 (MR 503347; verified as cited in Coulon–Fournier-Facio's |
| reference list). They prove: for a finitely generated **infinite simple** group $\Gamma$, |
| $d(\Gamma^p)\le d(\Gamma)+1$ for all $p\ge 1$ — infinite simple groups have essentially bounded |
| growth sequences, and no f.g. infinite simple group with non-constant growth sequence is known |
| (Wiegold–Wilson call this "irreducibly difficult"; see also Wiegold, *Is the direct square of |
| every 2-generator simple group 2-generator?*, Publ. Math. Debrecen 35 (1988), 207–209). |
| - **A. Yu. Olshanskii (1995)**, SQ-universality of hyperbolic groups, Mat. Sb. 186 (verified |
| indirectly: invoked as [Ol'95] in Coulon–Fournier-Facio for the SQ-universality of torsion-free |
| non-elementary hyperbolic groups). |
| - **R. Coulon & F. Fournier-Facio (2023)**, *Infinite simple characteristic quotients*, |
| [arXiv:2312.11684](https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.11684) (verified via the arXiv API and the fetched |
| paper). Theorem 1.5/4.1: every torsion-free non-elementary hyperbolic group $\Gamma$ admits |
| infinite, simple, characteristic quotients $\Gamma/N$ — all **not finitely presentable** — |
| containing any prescribed countable group. Combined with Wiegold–Wilson, these simple quotients |
| $S$ satisfy $d(S^p)\le d(S)+1\le d(\Gamma)+1$ for all $p$. |
| - The finite case (nontrivial finite $F$ has $d(F^n)\to\infty$) is classical growth-sequence |
| theory initiated by Wiegold; Bestvina's notes record the elementary pigeon-hole argument. |
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| ## Work done |
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| I verified the source wording (exact match; no correction needed), established the above verified |
| literature base, and carried out the following rigorous reductions and observations (elementary but, |
| as far as I can tell, the correct state of knowledge): |
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| **Proposition (reduction of the conjecture).** Let $G$ be a finitely generated group. Then |
| $\operatorname{rank}(G^n)\to\infty$ in each of the following cases: |
| 1. $b_1(G)=\operatorname{rank}_{\mathbb Z}(G_{ab})\ge 1$: then $(G^n)_{ab}=G_{ab}^n$ surjects |
| $\mathbb Z^{\,n\,b_1(G)}$, so $\operatorname{rank}(G^n)\ge n\,b_1(G)\to\infty$. |
| 2. $G$ has some nontrivial finite quotient $F$: then $\operatorname{rank}(G^n)\ge |
| \operatorname{rank}(F^n)\to\infty$ by the finite case. In particular this holds if $G$ has a |
| proper finite-index subgroup (take its core). |
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| *Proof.* (1) is immediate since $\operatorname{rank}$ does not increase under quotients and |
| $\operatorname{rank}(\mathbb Z^{m})=m$. For (2), $\operatorname{rank}(G^n)\ge |
| \operatorname{rank}(Q^n)$ for every quotient $Q$ of $G$. $\square$ |
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| **Corollary 1.** A counterexample to Wise's conjecture must be an infinite word-hyperbolic group |
| that is *perfect* ($b_1=0$) and has *no nontrivial finite quotients at all*. In particular it must |
| fail to be residually finite: since residual finiteness of an infinite group produces arbitrarily |
| large finite quotients, **a positive answer to Bestvina's Q 1.15 (every hyperbolic group is |
| residually finite — itself famously open) would imply Wise's conjecture.** So Q 1.16 is a strict |
| weakening of Q 1.15, and any counterexample to Q 1.16 is also a counterexample to Q 1.15. |
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| **Corollary 2.** If $G\twoheadrightarrow G\times G$, then iterating gives |
| $G\twoheadrightarrow G^{2^k}$, so $\operatorname{rank}(G^{2^k})\le\operatorname{rank}(G)$ and the |
| conjecture fails for $G$. Wise's 2002 examples show such epimorphisms exist in the $C'(1/6)$ class |
| when finite presentability is dropped. No hyperbolic (finitely presented) group $G$ with an |
| epimorphism onto $G\times G$ is known, and no obvious invariant rules one out. |
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| **Observation 3 (the simple-group route is closed inside hyperbolic groups).** By Olshanskii's |
| SQ-universality, every non-elementary hyperbolic group has every countable group embedded in some |
| quotient. A *simple* group $S$ has only the quotients $S$ and $1$; if $S$ were a non-elementary |
| hyperbolic group, every countable group would embed in $S$ itself — impossible, since the finitely |
| generated $S$ has only countably many finitely generated subgroups while there are uncountably many |
| isomorphism classes of finitely generated groups. Hence **no infinite simple hyperbolic group |
| exists**, and the Wiegold–Wilson mechanism ($d(\Gamma^p)\le d(\Gamma)+1$ for infinite simple |
| $\Gamma$) cannot produce a hyperbolic counterexample. Conversely, Coulon–Fournier-Facio show that |
| every torsion-free non-elementary hyperbolic group *does* have (non-finitely-presentable) infinite |
| simple quotients, whose growth sequences are bounded by Wiegold–Wilson. So quotient-based lower |
| bounds on $\operatorname{rank}(G^n)$ coming from simple quotients cannot prove the conjecture; only |
| finite quotients or the abelianization can, and any proof must use finite presentability of $G$ |
| essentially (hyperbolicity of quotients alone is insufficient, since non-finitely-presentable |
| $C'(1/6)$ counterexamples exist). |
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| **Observation 4 (homological lower bounds fail).** The only Betti number giving a usable bound is |
| $b_1$: $\operatorname{rank}(H)\ge b_1(H)$, and by Künneth $b_1(G^n)=n\,b_1(G)$ — this is exactly |
| case (1). Higher homology gives nothing: there is no inequality $\operatorname{rank}(H)\ge |
| b_2(H)-b_1(H)$ (e.g. $H=\mathbb Z\wr\mathbb Z$ is 2-generated with $H_2(H)$ free abelian of |
| infinite rank, by the standard exterior-square computation of $H_2$ of a wreath product), and the |
| naive Euler-characteristic bound "$\chi(H)\ge 1-\operatorname{rank}(H)$" fails already for |
| $H=F_4^3$ ($\chi=(-3)^3=-27$ but $\operatorname{rank}=12<28=1-\chi$), since it requires |
| cohomological dimension $\le 2$. Likewise $L^2$-Betti numbers of $G^n$ vanish for infinite $G$ |
| (Cheeger–Gromov), so $L^2$ methods give no rank bound. |
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| ## Result |
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| Wise's conjecture (Bestvina Q 1.16) remains **open**. I did not solve it. What is established here: |
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| - Verified the original statement and the absence of a published solution; the only published |
| partial results are Wise's 2002 small-cancellation counterexamples outside the finitely |
| presented/hyperbolic world, and the classical finite-group growth-sequence theory. |
| - Sharp reduction (Proposition + Corollary 1): the conjecture holds unless $G$ is infinite, |
| perfect, and has no nontrivial finite quotients; hence it is implied by residual finiteness of |
| hyperbolic groups (Q 1.15), and a counterexample would simultaneously refute Q 1.15. |
| - Structural observations: no infinite simple hyperbolic group exists (Observation 3), so the known |
| bounded-growth mechanism for infinite simple groups cannot realize a hyperbolic counterexample; |
| but every torsion-free non-elementary hyperbolic group has non-finitely-presentable simple |
| quotients with bounded growth sequences (Coulon–Fournier-Facio + Wiegold–Wilson), so any proof |
| must exploit finite presentability in an essential way. Homological/$L^2$ invariants cannot |
| detect rank growth beyond $b_1$ (Observation 4). |
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| ## What remains |
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| - Decide the conjecture in the residual case: $G$ infinite hyperbolic, $b_1(G)=0$, with no |
| nontrivial finite quotients. This is entangled with the residual finiteness problem (Q 1.15): |
| proving all hyperbolic groups residually finite settles Wise's conjecture affirmatively; |
| constructing a hyperbolic group with an epimorphism $G\twoheadrightarrow G^2$ (or even with |
| $\operatorname{rank}(G^n)$ bounded) would refute both. |
| - Already the case $n=2$ is open in general: is $\operatorname{rank}(G^2)> |
| \operatorname{rank}(G)$ (or even $\ge \operatorname{rank}(G)+1$) for every non-elementary |
| hyperbolic $G$ with $b_1(G)=0$? |
| - No growth *rate* is known in the cases where the conjecture holds only via finite quotients: |
| lower bounds on $\operatorname{rank}(G^n)$ in terms of the finite-quotient growth of $G$ would be |
| quantitative strengthenings (for finite simple $S$ one knows |
| $\operatorname{rank}(S^n)=\Theta(\log n)$-type behavior from Wiegold's theory). |
| - Honesty note: the non-existence of a published solution is asserted on the basis of targeted |
| searches (arXiv API, web) rather than exhaustive review; if a resolution appeared very recently |
| or in an obscure venue, I did not find it. The citation [Bri22] in Coulon–Fournier-Facio's |
| introduction (approaches "of a different flavor" to growth sequences of infinite groups) was not |
| independently identified or verified. |
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