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hacker bulletin boards across the country.
John Maxfield: The harassment started, all of the people on my phone bill got
calls from hackers. In some cases their phone records were
also stolen, friends and relatives of theirs got calls from
hackers. There was all sorts of other harassment, I got a call
from a food service in Los Angeles asking where I wanted the
500 pounds of pumpkins delivered. Some of these kids are
running around with guns, several of them made threats that
they were going to come to Detroit, shoot me and shoot Mike
Wendland.
Mike Wendland: A spokesperson from Michigan Bell said that the breakdown in
security that led to the release of Maxfield's confidential
records was unprecedented.
Phil Jones (MI Bell): I think as a company were very concerned because we work
very hard to protect the confidentially of customer's
records. [Yeah, right].
Mike Wendland: The hacker who got a hold of Maxfield's confidential phone
records is far removed from Michigan, he lives in Brooklyn, NY
and goes by the name Little David [Bill From RNOC]. He says
that getting confidential records from Michigan Bell or any
other phone company is child's play. Little David is 17 years
old. He refused to appear on camera, but did admit that he
conned the phone company out of releasing the records by simply
posing as Maxfield. He said that he has also sold pirated
long-distance access codes, and confidential information
obtained by hacking into the consumer credit files of T.R.W.
Little David says that one of his customers is a skip-tracer, a
private investigator from California who specializes in finding
missing people. Maxfield, meanwhile, says that his own
information verified Little David's claim.
John Maxfield: The nearest I can determine the skip-tracer was using the
hacker, the 17 year old boy to find out the whereabouts of
people he was paid to find. He did this by getting into the
credit bureau records for the private eye. This is an invasion
of privacy, but it's my understanding that this boy was getting
paid for his services.
Mike Wendland: In Long Island in New York, Maxfield's telephone records were
also posted on a bulletin board sponsored by Eric Corley,
publisher of a hacker newsletter [2600 Magazine]. Corley
doesn't dispute the harassment that Maxfield received.
Eric Corley: Any group can harass any other group, the difference with hackers
is that they know how to use particular technology to do it. If
you get a malevolent hacker mad at you there's no telling all the
different things that can happen.
Mike Wendland: What can happen? Well besides getting your credit card number
or charging things to your account, hackers have been known to
change people's credit ratings. It is really serious business!
And tomorrow night we'll hear about the hacker philosophy which
holds that if there is information out there about you it is
fair game.
Mort Crim: "1984" in 1986.
Mike Wendland: It is!
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Carman Harlan: News four [WDIV-TV, Channel 4 in Detroit] extra, Mike Wendland
and the I-Team look at how these hackers are getting out of
hand.
Mike Wendland: The problem with hackers is not just with mischief anymore,
unscrupulous hackers are not only invading your privacy, they
are costing you money. Case and point, your telephone bills,
because American telephone companies have long been targets of
computer hackers and thieves we are paying more than we should.
Experts say the long distance companies lose tens of millions
of dollars a year to, these self described "Phone Phreaks."
For example in Lansing, the Michigan Association of
Governmental Employees received a phone bill totalling nearly
three hundred and twenty one thousand dollars. For calls
illegally racked up on there credit card by hackers. Such
victims seldom get stuck paying the charges, so hackers claim
there piracy is innocent fun.
Phil Jones (MI Bell): Nothing could be further from the truth, it becomes a
very costly kind of fun. What happens is that the
majority of the customers who do pay there bills on
time, and do use our service lawfully end up quitting
after that bill.
Mike Wendland: That's not all, hackers regularly invade our privacy, they
leave pirated credit card numbers and information how to break
into electronic computer banks on bulletin boards. Thousands
of such electronic message centers exist across the country,
most operated by teenagers.
John Maxfield: There is no law enforcement, no parental guidance, they're just
on their own so they can do anything they want. So the few bad
ones that know how to steal and commit computer crimes teach
the other ones.
Mike Wendland: There is very little that is safe from hackers, from automatic