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what is trainwreck of thoughts
also i wanna say this guy doesn't know thread directions
Nope they were the correct pedals, I've made that mistake long ago
Just garbage threads I guess, they were actually new
i guess
It's actually surprisingly not hard to strip crank arm threads.
Especially if you've been riding with them a bit loose without noticing.
really...
feel kinda like a design falw
i figure after 150 years the bike industry has got all this shit on lock
You'd think, but no.
And half the time, new revolutionary 'standards' that 'fix' all of the old problems either a) don't, or b) introduce new problems.
Pedals just bolt on. There's only so much you can overengineer that without adding so much weight that bicycle people stop wanting your products.
pedal should just BE on the crank arm
i wonder if someone somewhere made some crank arm with unremovable pedals
But then you couldn't choose your own pedals.
oh ur right
ugh
And pedals are a wear&tear item anyway.
i forgot ppl like to clip in and shit
Not even just that.
There's almost as much variety in pedals as there is in handlebars.
It's one of the 3 places where the rider contacts the bike. There's always going to be a million different preferences.
why not just make pedals a thru bolt with a nut on the other side of the crank arm
yeah forreal
shit just make them square tapered
If there's a nut on the other side of the crank arm, that'll hit the chainstay on a wide variety of bikes.
hmmmm
Or you have to put the cranks further out, which messes with the Q-factor, which is a real thing that many people care about despite it sounding like a thing I just made up. :P
I can't even get my right pedal off my bike -_-
need to ask the bike shop to do it lol
bought 1" extenders and only could install the left lol
yeah I had to go to bike shop too for them to get the pedals off
Remember to lube your pedals!
Scary
Reminds me of when I lost my crank arm bolt somehow and the arm itself came off too. I had to pack it up and thumb throttle it home.
I‚Äôm not even sure my pedals are on the right sides lol. With the bbshd the crank looks the same on both sides. Haven‚Äôt done any rigorous testing yet battery just arrived today but I may have to change it before everything loosens itself off
if ur pedals are on the opposite side u won't be able to screw them in
so they're guaranteed to be on the right side
Well my concern is the cranks are on the wrong sides too as it‚Äôs hard to tell with these symmetrical crank arms
if the crank arms are on the wrong sides you wont be able to put the pedals on
cuz if you reversed the cranks then you can only put on the pedals from the inside of the cranks
trust me because i reversed the cranks and had to ask my LBS to put them on the right way
right hand threads and left hand threads dont change direction even if you flipp the crank arms over
so the right hand threads will only still be able to thread the right pedal
except if you install it on the non-drive side then you can only screw the pedals in from the backside
so you know you fucked up
But seriously grease the thread of your pedals before you put them on, future you will thank you
future me takes it to a bike shop
you also kinda need a special narrow spanner with long arm for torque
bike tools are all kinds of bullshit because of clearance
Will chain grease work
No
Bacon grease?
You need grease not lube
Hmm
But its probably better than nothing
wait grease and lube is different?
Grease
Lube is usually thin runny stuff
why are they always green
Mine is red
huh ok
That was just a random pic from the interwebs
ah its the parktool grease
I use Mobilgrease 28 personally
wait is that RJ the bike guy
Oh and jimbo by symmetrical I meant the drive side crank and non drive side are identical. I saw a tutorial and I tightened the pedals on the wrong way because the way the did in the vid didn‚Äôt work
yeah the cranks are suppose to be identical right?
?_?
i mean not exactly identical
they thread differently
but otherwise identical
Well normally you have one that has the front gear on it
yeah but not when u have mid drive motor
And the other is just a crank
Yeah
Exactly
yeah thats what im talking about
Hmm
if you got the left and the right one mixed up
you cant put the pedals on correctly
unless you really forced the pedals in and just completely fuck shit up
at that point you know you fucked up
K it‚Äôs late and maybe we aren‚Äôt communicating probably because I‚Äôm rly confused now. I will take a look tomorrow and take into account what you are saying
Don't they have and L and R stamped somewhere?
No
i swear to god mine didn't
Chinese
the way to tell is to screw in the pedals
Just found a random pic, these do have an R
The right one has a tiny R near the pedal hole
yeah i forgot they arent identical
i just slapped them on and cant put my pedals in
took it to bike shop and dude said they're backwards
at that point ive stripped like 1 or 2 threads
ah
and i had a feeling that something was fucky
Also about pedals being stuck: most higher end pedals will come with a large hex at the end of the part you are screwing into the crank arm, so you have 2 places you can loosen them, either with a spanner or a hex
thats nice

what is trainwreck of thoughts

also i wanna say this guy doesn't know thread directions

Nope they were the correct pedals, I've made that mistake long ago

Just garbage threads I guess, they were actually new

i guess

It's actually surprisingly not hard to strip crank arm threads.

Especially if you've been riding with them a bit loose without noticing.

really...

feel kinda like a design falw

i figure after 150 years the bike industry has got all this shit on lock

You'd think, but no.

And half the time, new revolutionary 'standards' that 'fix' all of the old problems either a) don't, or b) introduce new problems.

Pedals just bolt on. There's only so much you can overengineer that without adding so much weight that bicycle people stop wanting your products.

pedal should just BE on the crank arm

i wonder if someone somewhere made some crank arm with unremovable pedals

But then you couldn't choose your own pedals.

oh ur right

ugh

And pedals are a wear&tear item anyway.

i forgot ppl like to clip in and shit

Not even just that.

There's almost as much variety in pedals as there is in handlebars.

It's one of the 3 places where the rider contacts the bike. There's always going to be a million different preferences.

why not just make pedals a thru bolt with a nut on the other side of the crank arm

yeah forreal

shit just make them square tapered

If there's a nut on the other side of the crank arm, that'll hit the chainstay on a wide variety of bikes.

hmmmm

Or you have to put the cranks further out, which messes with the Q-factor, which is a real thing that many people care about despite it sounding like a thing I just made up. :P

I can't even get my right pedal off my bike -_-

need to ask the bike shop to do it lol

bought 1" extenders and only could install the left lol

yeah I had to go to bike shop too for them to get the pedals off

Remember to lube your pedals!

Scary

Reminds me of when I lost my crank arm bolt somehow and the arm itself came off too. I had to pack it up and thumb throttle it home.

I‚Äôm not even sure my pedals are on the right sides lol. With the bbshd the crank looks the same on both sides. Haven‚Äôt done any rigorous testing yet battery just arrived today but I may have to change it before everything loosens itself off

if ur pedals are on the opposite side u won't be able to screw them in

so they're guaranteed to be on the right side

Well my concern is the cranks are on the wrong sides too as it‚Äôs hard to tell with these symmetrical crank arms

if the crank arms are on the wrong sides you wont be able to put the pedals on

cuz if you reversed the cranks then you can only put on the pedals from the inside of the cranks

trust me because i reversed the cranks and had to ask my LBS to put them on the right way

right hand threads and left hand threads dont change direction even if you flipp the crank arms over

so the right hand threads will only still be able to thread the right pedal

except if you install it on the non-drive side then you can only screw the pedals in from the backside

so you know you fucked up

But seriously grease the thread of your pedals before you put them on, future you will thank you

future me takes it to a bike shop

you also kinda need a special narrow spanner with long arm for torque

bike tools are all kinds of bullshit because of clearance

Will chain grease work

No

Bacon grease?

You need grease not lube

Hmm

But its probably better than nothing

wait grease and lube is different?

Grease

Lube is usually thin runny stuff

why are they always green

Mine is red

huh ok

That was just a random pic from the interwebs

ah its the parktool grease

I use Mobilgrease 28 personally

wait is that RJ the bike guy

Oh and jimbo by symmetrical I meant the drive side crank and non drive side are identical. I saw a tutorial and I tightened the pedals on the wrong way because the way the did in the vid didn‚Äôt work

yeah the cranks are suppose to be identical right?

?_?

i mean not exactly identical

they thread differently

but otherwise identical

Well normally you have one that has the front gear on it

yeah but not when u have mid drive motor

And the other is just a crank

Yeah

Exactly

yeah thats what im talking about

Hmm

if you got the left and the right one mixed up

you cant put the pedals on correctly

unless you really forced the pedals in and just completely fuck shit up

at that point you know you fucked up

K it‚Äôs late and maybe we aren‚Äôt communicating probably because I‚Äôm rly confused now. I will take a look tomorrow and take into account what you are saying

Don't they have and L and R stamped somewhere?

No

i swear to god mine didn't

Chinese

the way to tell is to screw in the pedals

Just found a random pic, these do have an R

The right one has a tiny R near the pedal hole

yeah i forgot they arent identical

i just slapped them on and cant put my pedals in

took it to bike shop and dude said they're backwards

at that point ive stripped like 1 or 2 threads

ah

and i had a feeling that something was fucky

Also about pedals being stuck: most higher end pedals will come with a large hex at the end of the part you are screwing into the crank arm, so you have 2 places you can loosen them, either with a spanner or a hex

thats nice