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[3880.24 --> 3881.26] And like, well, okay.
[3881.32 --> 3883.38] There's going to be people that really liked Dawngate.
[3883.48 --> 3886.32] Every single time that a game gets closed, there's people that get screwed over.
[3886.50 --> 3886.82] Yeah.
[3886.82 --> 3888.16] And that really sucks.
[3888.16 --> 3889.98] But at least they don't get screwed out of any money.
[3890.74 --> 3892.12] Yes, they don't get screwed out of any money.
[3892.34 --> 3896.38] And they don't get this like abandoned, abandoned, empty experience,
[3896.56 --> 3898.18] which the game probably would have turned into,
[3898.44 --> 3901.56] and then just been depressed and had bad memories.
[3901.76 --> 3903.30] Now they're like, I liked that game.
[3903.30 --> 3904.60] And it sucks that it didn't become a thing.
[3904.70 --> 3904.80] Yeah.
[3904.82 --> 3905.44] That was fun.
[3905.52 --> 3906.04] That was cool.
[3906.28 --> 3911.04] I mean, I think the only thing EA could do to make this even cooler,
[3911.04 --> 3915.22] and for them to be like, wow, good guy EA, and we would actually...
[3915.22 --> 3916.24] Okay, we would have...
[3916.24 --> 3918.18] If they gave them like some credit or something?
[3918.36 --> 3919.92] No, what I would want them to do...
[3919.92 --> 3920.88] Actually, that would be...
[3920.88 --> 3921.74] Okay, that would work.
[3921.74 --> 3922.88] They like gave them a game on the origin store or something?
[3922.88 --> 3924.16] Some credit in the origin store.
[3924.24 --> 3924.34] Yeah.
[3924.40 --> 3925.78] Here's five bucks off a new game.
[3925.86 --> 3926.86] Go enjoy something else.
[3926.98 --> 3927.86] Hey, we're sorry about this.
[3927.92 --> 3928.10] Yeah.
[3928.32 --> 3929.30] That would be super cool.
[3929.62 --> 3935.36] Another super cool thing would be if they turned the game over to someone else.
[3935.44 --> 3935.52] Oh.
[3935.52 --> 3937.80] Turned the game over to the community and went, look, okay.
[3937.92 --> 3938.84] That would be awesome.
[3938.84 --> 3942.22] We're not going to support it anymore, but you know what?
[3942.24 --> 3944.36] If you guys really want to run with this, then go for it.
[3944.36 --> 3945.80] Go with like the Netscape thing.
[3946.18 --> 3948.40] Where they're like, we're kind of closing off, but you can have it,
[3948.44 --> 3950.64] and then Firefox jumps on the train and carries it forward.
[3950.96 --> 3952.10] Or whatever it is.
[3952.10 --> 3952.88] Or whatever would ever happen.
[3952.88 --> 3954.34] That would actually be super awesome.
[3954.62 --> 3954.78] Yeah.
[3954.90 --> 3956.54] I don't think they will, but that would be super awesome.
[3956.64 --> 3959.02] Because I think that for like a...
[3959.02 --> 3963.16] Even for the open source community, to try to develop a game from Square One
[3963.16 --> 3964.76] is a bit of an ambitious project.
[3964.76 --> 3968.06] And if they could take this even just as a framework and nuke a lot of it
[3968.06 --> 3970.36] and recreate things, that would be a lot easier.
[3970.88 --> 3971.06] Yeah.
[3971.14 --> 3973.42] That would be a very, very, very cool thing.
[3973.58 --> 3978.16] In this world of microtransaction-y, actually massive companies
[3978.16 --> 3980.62] that have this image of like, you know, good guy Riot.
[3980.74 --> 3984.44] But these are like big companies with a lot of money that like...
[3984.44 --> 3986.76] It's funny because people kind of go,
[3986.76 --> 3991.88] Oh, like Apple, like big company, therefore like bad or whatever.
[3992.02 --> 3996.32] But these gaming companies are also like big, super money-driven companies.
[3996.42 --> 3997.14] So don't kid yourself.
[3997.56 --> 3998.32] I mean, I would think...
[3998.32 --> 4001.96] I think it would be really cool for just a community-driven project
[4001.96 --> 4003.28] to come in and challenge something like that.
[4003.28 --> 4005.52] I really don't think it'll happen, but it would be awesome.
[4005.54 --> 4006.78] Then a bunch of money would get involved,
[4006.92 --> 4008.16] and some people would rise to the top,
[4008.20 --> 4008.92] and they'd make a bunch of money.
[4008.96 --> 4010.24] It would turn into the same thing all over again.
[4010.26 --> 4011.20] I mean, it's just one of those things.
[4011.28 --> 4012.10] Money is what it is.
[4012.10 --> 4014.58] I feel like right now Ubisoft and EA are really close to each other,
[4014.80 --> 4017.46] and Ubisoft is like digging really ferociously
[4017.46 --> 4020.50] and throwing the dirt over into EA's hole and filling it up.
[4024.18 --> 4026.68] The word hole can never escape an awkward cause.
[4026.82 --> 4027.76] I didn't even mean that.
[4027.86 --> 4030.62] But like EA is not doing horrible things.
[4030.88 --> 4031.20] I know.
[4031.40 --> 4032.04] It's amazing.
[4032.70 --> 4033.76] It's like they care.
[4033.86 --> 4036.10] Like they had that big patch for Battlefield 4.
[4036.26 --> 4038.72] They gave away some free stuff to people using Sims.
[4038.72 --> 4044.06] They aren't pulling their games out of Steam in the UK,
[4044.36 --> 4047.36] with the rumor being that they're going to pull their games out of Steam entirely.
[4047.62 --> 4048.48] No, I think they did.
[4048.48 --> 4049.26] Their Christmas launch games.
[4049.36 --> 4049.84] Did they already?
[4049.96 --> 4052.24] I'm pretty sure this is like a...
[4052.24 --> 4053.52] It's out of Steam.
[4053.70 --> 4055.82] Or at least it's out of Steam in UK and I believe US.
[4057.06 --> 4062.12] I think the outrage for this should have been at the fact
[4062.12 --> 4065.98] that if you bought one of their games on Steam already,
[4065.98 --> 4069.36] it was just giving it to you in Uplay and it just launched Uplay.
[4069.58 --> 4071.34] I think that's where the rage should have been.
[4071.54 --> 4074.00] Because this honestly doesn't really change anything.
[4074.34 --> 4074.90] Yeah, you're right.
[4075.02 --> 4078.70] You're going from not being able to buy it in Steam.
[4079.36 --> 4081.72] I mean, you're going from being able to buy it in Steam,
[4081.80 --> 4084.60] but realistically just having the game on your Uplay account
[4084.60 --> 4087.20] and having to run Uplay and having to launch the game out of Uplay
[4087.20 --> 4089.00] and dealing with all the crap that that has
[4089.00 --> 4092.40] to just not being able to buy it on Steam
[4092.40 --> 4095.56] and having the entire rest of the experience be exactly the same.