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[4815.64 --> 4820.64] And in terms of the PCB design we need to lay out all those traces to all those memory |
[4820.64 --> 4821.64] chips. |
[4821.64 --> 4822.64] This sucks. |
[4822.64 --> 4828.64] So Nvidia just bailed and they stopped at 384 bit and AMD's actually, I don't think Nvidia's |
[4828.64 --> 4830.64] ever done a 512 bit GPU. |
[4830.64 --> 4831.64] Was 480 512 bit? |
[4831.64 --> 4837.64] That was the only one I could think of. |
[4837.64 --> 4840.64] This 480 was an interesting card. |
[4840.64 --> 4841.64] Let's see. |
[4841.64 --> 4843.64] 512 bit. |
[4843.64 --> 4844.64] Or was it? |
[4844.64 --> 4846.64] No, I don't think it was. |
[4846.64 --> 4847.64] 285? |
[4847.64 --> 4849.64] It was the 285. |
[4849.64 --> 4850.64] Okay. |
[4850.64 --> 4855.64] Anyway, if Nvidia ever had one, they bailed and they started doing 384 bit for their high-end |
[4855.64 --> 4856.64] cards. |
[4856.64 --> 4860.64] And then now we even have a 256 bit GTX 980, which is passing for- |
[4860.64 --> 4861.64] 512 bit DDR3. |
[4861.64 --> 4862.64] Okay. |
[4862.64 --> 4865.64] So that was GTX 285. |
[4865.64 --> 4871.64] So, so it got really expensive, but in, it's in a similar, so an analogous technology to what |
[4871.64 --> 4877.64] Samsung is now doing on their 850 Pro SSD, where they're not using the latest super tiny |
[4877.64 --> 4878.64] manufacturing process. |
[4878.64 --> 4883.64] And instead of trying to go wider with the design of their chips, they're actually stacking |
[4883.64 --> 4884.64] them on each other. |
[4884.64 --> 4891.64] So it looks like this technology is going to enable AMD to deliver massive, massive memory |
[4891.64 --> 4892.64] bandwidth. |
[4892.64 --> 4900.64] We're talking like a 1024 bit interface per chip without, hopefully, a huge, significantly, |
[4900.64 --> 4902.64] much bigger incremental cost. |
[4902.64 --> 4909.64] One challenge is that right now we're going to be limited to 4 gig configurations, because |
[4909.64 --> 4915.64] this is, this is a Hynix technology, or SK Hynix technology, and it's only the first generation. |
[4915.64 --> 4917.64] But, yeah. |
[4917.64 --> 4923.64] We could be looking at bandwidth for the, memory bandwidth for the graphics card in the 640 gigabyte |
[4923.64 --> 4924.64] per second range. |
[4924.64 --> 4925.64] That's nuts. |
[4925.64 --> 4926.64] That is redonkulous. |
[4926.64 --> 4930.64] I, I, I very reportedly am not a huge fan of just rumor mill stuff. |
[4930.64 --> 4936.64] You very specifically hope this one comes through. |
[4936.64 --> 4939.64] That would be really exciting to see this card. |
[4939.64 --> 4940.64] I wouldn't be surprised. |
[4940.64 --> 4942.64] I mean, it's, uh... |
[4942.64 --> 4943.64] It makes sense. |
[4943.64 --> 4948.64] The, the problem that I have with rumors is if you've been around for a long time, it |
[4948.64 --> 4950.64] would be really easy to fabricate a lot of them. |
[4950.64 --> 4951.64] Yeah, that's true. |
[4951.64 --> 4954.64] Because you could be like, these things would make sense. |
[4954.64 --> 4955.64] Rumor printed. |
[4955.64 --> 4959.64] And a lot of the times I even wonder if people are just like, yeah, this is probably what |
[4959.64 --> 4960.64] it's going to be. |
[4960.64 --> 4961.64] And just rumor drop. |
[4961.64 --> 4962.64] Oh, absolutely. |
[4962.64 --> 4963.64] Oh yeah, look, it was accurate. |
[4963.64 --> 4965.64] Because usually it's going to be accurate. |
[4965.64 --> 4966.64] Yeah. |
[4966.64 --> 4968.64] Because you can look at things like roadmaps. |
[4968.64 --> 4971.64] Like if, you know, SK Hynix says, okay, we're going to be sampling it here. |
[4971.64 --> 4973.64] We're going to be going into mass production here. |
[4973.64 --> 4978.64] And then you look at fairly credible rumors, like when the 390X is rumored to launch and |
[4978.64 --> 4982.64] you go, well, gee, why would they be mass producing it if not for X? |
[4982.64 --> 4983.64] Yeah. |
[4983.64 --> 4984.64] You know, a lot of the time you can kind of guess. |
[4984.64 --> 4985.64] Yeah. |
[4985.64 --> 4990.64] Speaking of exciting memory technology, uh, this was also posted by Big Strooms on the forum. |
[4990.64 --> 4993.64] Original article is from Tweaktown. |
[4993.64 --> 4999.64] SanDisk releases memory mounted SSDs. |
[4999.64 --> 5005.64] These fit in DDR3 memory slots and they're available in up to 400 gigabyte capacities. |
[5005.64 --> 5008.64] So either 200 or 400 gigabyte. |
[5008.64 --> 5009.64] Oh crap. |
[5009.64 --> 5014.64] I need to set this reminder for myself for, uh, for later. |
[5014.64 --> 5015.64] Otherwise I will not remember. |
[5015.64 --> 5016.64] Oh good. |
[5016.64 --> 5018.64] I, I already have a reminder for five minutes before it happens. |
[5018.64 --> 5019.64] Hooray. |
[5019.64 --> 5020.64] Yay. |
[5020.64 --> 5021.64] Back to the dock. |
[5021.64 --> 5022.64] Um, yeah. |
[5022.64 --> 5024.64] So 200 and 400 gigabyte capacities. |
[5024.64 --> 5029.64] And basically you'll just slot SSDs into memory slots. |
[5029.64 --> 5030.64] What? |
[5030.64 --> 5033.64] I mean, this is not a consumer oriented technology. |
[5033.64 --> 5038.64] You're not going to be putting this on your Z97 Deluxe or whatever. |
[5038.64 --> 5040.64] This is, this is more for servers. |
[5040.64 --> 5045.64] But what it does is it removes complexity components and cabling from server designs. |
[5045.64 --> 5053.64] If you had a server where you didn't actually need a ton of memory, but you did need a lot of storage, but you wanted to be compact. |
[5053.64 --> 5055.64] This could make a ton of sense. |
[5055.64 --> 5058.64] And you need like crazy fast storage. |
[5058.64 --> 5059.64] Mm-hmm. |
[5059.64 --> 5060.64] Yeah. |
[5060.64 --> 5061.64] Because. |
[5061.64 --> 5062.64] Maybe not a lot, because these aren't actually very high capacity drives. |
[5062.64 --> 5063.64] Well, hold on a second. |
[5063.64 --> 5068.64] 400 gigabytes per drive on something like a 16 dim motherboard. |
[5068.64 --> 5069.64] Cost. |
[5069.64 --> 5070.64] Yeah, it's expensive. |
[5070.64 --> 5071.64] I didn't say it wasn't expensive. |
[5071.64 --> 5076.64] And it's not even going to help that much in terms of space, really. |
[5076.64 --> 5081.64] Like it's, yeah, it's largely going to be for speed. |
[5081.64 --> 5082.64] Okay. |
[5082.64 --> 5087.64] Well, it offers 880 megabytes per second of sequential read speed and 600 megabytes per |
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