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**Ben Johnson:** \[01:00:01.13\] I don't have a project, mine is more like a maintainer. Kelsey Hightower, I just think he does… I know he's the Kubernetes guy, and sadly, I actually don't use Kubernetes, but I think he does a fantastic job being an evangelist for that. But really I think he's done so much in the commu...
**BRIAN KETELSEN:** Amen.
**Ben Johnson:** So when the videos come out, please go watch that.
**Erik St. Martin:** I've heard. Kelsey is a person. Kelsey Hightower is a person as well as his contributions in both articles and sample code; I think we all can admire and aspire to live up to that. Just a great guy all-around.
**Brian Ketelsen:** I want to be like Kelsey.
**Erik St. Martin:** Me too. Can I be like Kelsey when I grow up?
**Brian Ketelsen:** It's going to take a lot of work.
**Erik St. Martin:** So for my project, I'm actually going to sidestep development in Go projects.
**Brian Ketelsen:** What?
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, I'm going to do it. So as a hobby thing, I'm also - in addition to being addicted to databases, I'm addicted to information security. There's a distro a lot of people use, which is called Kali Linux, which is kind of based on Debian. But I'm an Arch user all the way around, so shortly before ...
**Brian Ketelsen:** Both of them are very excited right now \[laughter\].
**Erik St. Martin:** You have to be a Go person listening to this podcast who also likes InfoSec and ArchStrike. And Arch Linux.
**Carlisia Thompson:** And none of them are in the Slack right now. I'm sorry \[laughter\].
**Erik St. Martin:** I think we made it all the way through our Free Software Friday. Before we start to close out the show, I do want to point out that the Changelog has another new podcast that's out that's called Request for Commits, and they're speaking with people about open source sustainability, and the human si...
**Brian Ketelsen:** Right?
**Erik St. Martin:** There's going to be one guy. I know there is.
**Brian Ketelsen:** There's always one guy. Like the one guy on the GopherCon survey that thought Renee's talk was unsatisfactory. Seriously, a talk on the Gopher onset? You're out. Don't come back. We don't need you.
**Carlisia Thompson:** Wow, her talk was awesome, I thought.
**Erik St. Martin:** I think it was a nice mind-break. You forget how overwhelming all that content being jammed into you for two days straight can be. I think it was fun, and I think it was a nice step away from brain overload.
**Brian Ketelsen:** It was awesome.
**Erik St. Martin:** Did anybody else have anything else they want to mention before we close out the show?
**Brian Ketelsen:** \[01:03:33.20\] There's gotta be something I forgot. Oh, you know how much I love to generate things in DSLs. The Quilt project I found yesterday; github.com/NetSys/quilt. Pretty cool way to generate container orchestration for your container deployments. It's a little bit outside of the realm of ju...
**Erik St. Martin:** Well that's interesting, I haven't seen that yet.
**Brian Ketelsen:** I find all the cool stuff.
**Erik St. Martin:** Alright, I think we are out of time. I just want to thank everybody for being on the show. Thanks to Brian, Carlisia, and Ben, especially Ben for coming on the show, and talking, I think mostly databases. But this has been a great show. Thank you to all the listeners, both live, and who will be lis...
**Brian Ketelsen:** Thanks, Ben!
**Carlisia Thompson:** Thank you!
**Ben Johnson:** Thanks for having me.