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**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah.
**Erik St. Martin:** Oh yeah, yeah... I did see that. Can we release ASCII versions of all the GopherCon videos? Do you think people would be mad? \[laughter\]
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yes, let's do... Let's definitely do.
**Erik St. Martin:** I think it would have to be in addition to the real videos.
**Brian Ketelsen:** I think we've gone twice as long as we normally go on an episode because we dived into "the tool."
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, we're probably totally into the after-show now...
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, so we should say goodbye so we can keep going... \[laughter\]
**Erik St. Martin:** Alright, so we should say bye... Thanks everybody for listening. A huge thank you to Kris for coming on the show with us today. Thanks to Carlisia who wasn't able to continue, but she's here in spirit right now; she should be back next week.
**Brian Ketelsen:** Thank you so much for coming on, Kris. It was an honor to finally talk in person - well, not quite in person, but over the internet - to my best friend. If you guys aren't aware, Kris and I are bffs; we've been bffs for several months now, but we declared it on Twitter so...
**Kris Nova:** It's Twitter-official.
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah. We're Twitter bffs.
**Kris Nova:** Yeah. Yeah, thanks for having me. This was a lot of fun.
• Jeff Lindsay's background and experience
• Discussion of his current projects and goals
• Comparison of US vs. European perspective on old buildings
• Mention of various open source projects, including Flynn, Dokku, Envy, Docker, OpenStack, webhooks, DevjaVu, and localtunnel
• Building sustainable self-running services with open-source infrastructure
• The importance of empowering users to build their own automation and custom solutions
• Critique of using artificial intelligence (AI) for automation, preferring basic techniques instead
• Composable software and visual tools like Microsoft Flow and WebPipes for easy automation
• Designing systems that balance high-level interfaces with low-level customization options
• Infrastructure development for building distributed systems and cloud platforms, including Docker and Kubernetes
• Frustration with platform-as-a-service complexity
• Operator pattern for abstracting away Kubernetes complexity
• Criticism of corporate interests influencing open-source projects
• Analysis paralysis due to numerous options and features
• Desire for a simpler infrastructure approach, such as running containers in Docker
• Moving on from complex technologies like Kubernetes once they become mainstream
• Evolution of event handling and serverless computing
• Comparison of AWS Lambda and other services
• Introduction to durable functions for workflow automation
• Discussion of Go programming language and its philosophy
• Critique of complexity in software development and need for simpler systems
• Importance of interfaces and two-way conversations in software design
• Hook-based extensibility in software composition
• Issue tracking system integrated with versioning
• Hook-based interface for component-oriented software development
• Dependent injection and configuration
• Com library (GliderLabs Com) for building component-oriented software in Go
• Wiki example demonstrating the power of com library
• Standard Com library for common components like daemon management, HTTP, sessions, and authentication
• Console component for wrapping up authentication
• Command.io rebuild as a goal using com library
• Function as a service concept with command-line interface
• Power of SSH protocol for building complex systems and protocols
• SSH library for Go (GliderLabs SSH) and its ease of use
• Comparison to HTTP/2 and other protocols
• Using interfaces in Go to build abstractions and simplify code
• File system implementations, including Afero and 9P protocol
• Mounting 9P file systems directly in Linux kernel without extra daemons or extensions
• Custom file systems using network file system API (e.g. 9P)
• Designing APIs with interfaces in Go
• The benefits of using interfaces for abstraction and decoupling
• The importance of well-designed interfaces for reusable software
• Discussion of the Go Commons project and its emphasis on starting with interfaces
• Using custom resource definitions (CRDs) with Kubernetes to simplify monitoring and metrics collection with Prometheus
• Docker development environments
• Google Working Group GreaterCommons courses for learning Go
• Shoutouts to contributors, including spf13 (Steve Francia) and Todd McLeod
• Open source project management and collaboration through pull requests and merge processes
• Show highlights from past episodes and discussing guest appearances
• The podcast has 273 episodes and a producer who pulls the plug at around 2-3 minutes.
• Scott Mansfield is mentioned as having been on the show twice.
• Guest hosts are sometimes used when regular hosts travel.
• Jeff Lindsay's projects and work were discussed.
• The episode was wrapping up due to time constraints.
**Erik St. Martin:** Welcome back everybody to another episode of GoTime. Today's episode is number 62. On the show today we have myself, Erik St. Martin, Carlisia Pinto is also here...
**Carlisia Thompson:** Hi there.
**Erik St. Martin:** And Brian Ketelsen, all the way from Italy...
**Brian Ketelsen:** Buona sera!
**Erik St. Martin:** \[laughs\] I didn't even know you could speak Italian.
**Brian Ketelsen:** I can't.
**Erik St. Martin:** And our special guest for today is Jeff Lindsay.
**Jeff Lindsay:** Hello.
**Erik St. Martin:** Now I think we should make Brian speak Italian for the whole show.
**Brian Ketelsen:** Dude, I did. That's all I know.
**Erik St. Martin:** It's literally every word?
**Brian Ketelsen:** Well, prego and grazie...