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**Brian Ketelsen:** I've heard sleep is pretty good, but I wouldn't know.
**Erik St. Martin:** I have to accept blame in that, because I knew he was tired this morning, and he literally had said "I'm gonna take a nap" and I'm like "No, wait! I've gotta show you this thing!" \[laughter\]
**Brian Ketelsen:** I blame Erik for the campy lack of sleep in my life.
**Erik St. Martin:** \[laughs\] "Don't go! You must see this!" \[laughter\]
**Ashley McNamara:** Casey says, "Wait, did he come over and light barbecue to start gathering data?"
**Erik St. Martin:** No, actually I knew that he was going to be cooking something this morning, and I knew that last night we had kind of negotiated what the MQTT topics would look like, so last night I whipped together something so that when he started his smoker this morning he could see graphs.
**Brian Ketelsen:** That was the last thing I said before I went to bed - "I'm gonna send this stuff to MQTT. We'll graph it tomorrow, or sometime." And then I get out of bed this morning and the graph is already there because Erik is awesome.
**Ashley McNamara:** You guys know it was on the same call that you guys used to match your outfits, so what are you wearing tomorrow? \[laughter\]
**Brian Ketelsen:** I'm wearing my GoTime shirt. What are you wearing?
**Erik St. Martin:** I'm actually wearing my Denver Gophers shirt. That finally came.
**Brian Ketelsen:** Nice! Who drew that gopher?
**Erik St. Martin:** I don't know... \[laughter\] So that was more artwork by Ashley that's just awesome. I love that little Denver gopher.
**Brian Ketelsen:** It's awesome, isn't it?
**Ashley McNamara:** It's for a great cause, too. I'll have to put the link in Slack... I ordered that shirt weeks ago and I still haven't gotten it.
**Brian Ketelsen:** Really?
**Ashley McNamara:** Yes.
**Brian Ketelsen:** I've got mine, Erik got his...
**Ashley McNamara:** I wonder if it got lost...
**Erik St. Martin:** Maybe they just had to source sizes, or something like that...
**Ashley McNamara:** Possible.
**Erik St. Martin:** But that's the only difference that I can think of, aside from distanced for delivery, but I think enough time has passed to account for that.
**Ashley McNamara:** Yeah, shoutout to Denver gophers.
**Brian Ketelsen:** We heart Denver gophers here a lot. We couldn't have [GopherCon](https://www.gophercon.com/) without them.
**Carlisia Thompson:** Three months away, I cannot believe it. Three months and we're all gonna be in Denver.
**Erik St. Martin:** \[01:04:08.29\] Yeah, it's gonna be awesome.
**Brian Ketelsen:** So much awesome! Which reminds me, it's time to start practicing for the GopherCon band.
**Ashley McNamara:** Oh, is this a real thing?
**Brian Ketelsen:** Erik thinks I'm kidding, but I've already worked out with our welcome party people - we've got a corner, we've got live music set up, and there will be a GopherCon band, dammit!
**Erik St. Martin:** I know better than to think you're kidding. \[laughter\]
**Brian Ketelsen:** My reputation precedes me.
**Ashley McNamara:** I'm going to live-tweet about this.
**Erik St. Martin:** So I know that we have a hard stop for the recorded show... Adam is probably waiting patiently to stop recording before we corrupt all of his data...
**Brian Ketelsen:** He's twitching. Adam twitches.
**Erik St. Martin:** So with that, I wanna thank everybody for being on the show, especially thank you to Ashley for all the great things that you do for the community, and for coming on our lowly show, for lowering your standards.
**Ashley McNamara:** Thank you for having me.
**Erik St. Martin:** Huge shoutout to our sponsors for today's episode, [Toptal](https://www.toptal.com/) and [DataDog](https://www.datadoghq.com/). Please share this show with fellow Go programmers. An easy way to subscribe is by going to GoTime.fm. We are on [Twitter](https://twitter.com/GoTimeFM). If you have sugges...
**Carlisia Thompson:** This was great, bye!
**Ashley McNamara:** Bye!
**Brian Ketelsen:** Thanks for being on the show, Ashley.
**Ashley McNamara:** Thanks, Brian!
• Steve Francia's role as Go team technical program manager with an emphasis on external usage
• Community management and product management responsibilities within his role
• Dependency management issues in the Go community and efforts to address them through a working group
• Collaboration between the community and Google team to improve tooling awareness of dependency management
• Recent survey published on the Go blog from 2016 and its findings
• Francesc Campoy's role as advocate for all of Go and Google Cloud
• Peter Bourgon's leadership of the dependency management working group and Sam Boyer's implementation efforts
• Creation and results of the Go survey
• Insights gained from the survey on user needs and challenges
• Importance of establishing a baseline to measure progress over time
• Growth and adoption of Go in the industry, with many users now using it at work
• Difficulty finding experienced Go developers due to its relatively young age
• Role of community in attracting new users and solving supply vs demand problem
• Analysis of survey results on community challenges, including dependency management
• Need for better resources and support for new users to adopt Go effectively
• Surprise finding from survey: many people consider Go their language of most experience
• Go is being used as a first language for many developers, rather than just as a conversion point from other languages
• Dynamic languages (e.g. JavaScript, Python) are common backgrounds for Go users
• Web development is the largest use case for Go, but also has a steep learning curve and limited documentation
• Package management and lack of generics are major challenges for the language
• Steep learning curve and inadequate documentation are individual challenges faced by developers using Go