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**Carlisia Thompson:** That is the secret, there we go. |
**Mark Bates:** That is the secret. The bigger secret is I only started drinking coffee just over a year ago, so I don't know how I was doing this productivity stuff before then. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Wow. |
**Mark Bates:** Yeah. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Wow. |
**Mark Bates:** The key is just drinking. Just... Booze. \[laughter\] |
**Brian Ketelsen:** That's my problem, see? I'm almost a complete teetotaler, so if I drink more, maybe I'd be more productive. |
**Mark Bates:** Exactly. \[laughs\] The funny story is I've written three books over the years, and the longest one took me about three or four months to write, at night, part-time. I would sit down at about nine o'clock in the evening after the kids went to bed and I would crack open a six-pack of Guinness and a bag o... |
Then they would send me back the changes, the corrections a couple days later, and it would start off perfectly fine, you know, and as it went on there'd be a little bit of red, and a little bit more red, and then finally by the end there'd just be like whole paragraphs scratched out and all red... "This isn't a word",... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Wait... So you realize what you are doing is actually getting your editor to write a book for you? \[laughs\] |
**Mark Bates:** Well no, no, because then I'd go back and change, correct the things that were the lyrics to "I am the walrus" and make them actual sentences again. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** \[28:03\] \[laughs\] Okay... It's the equivalent of making an incorrect statement on StackOverflow and have people just give you the right answer. |
**Mark Bates:** Well, everything's an incorrect statement on StackOverflow, so I don't... You know... That's like saying there's hatred on Hacker News, and that every statement is misguided or misinformed... \[laughs\] |
**Brian Ketelsen:** It's not true... |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Oh my god... I'm hyperventilating here. This is funny. |
**Mark Bates:** That is not true. Everything Brian puts on there is full of love and honesty. \[laughter\] |
**Brian Ketelsen:** True. |
**Mark Bates:** But yeah, "suppress your inner editor" I guess is how I did that. \[laughter\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** Okay, so we should probably move on to projects and news. Before that, let's take a quick sponsor break. |
**Break:** \[28:58\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** So, projects and news... What do we wanna talk about first? |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Oh my god, there's so much to talk about. I think we have to start with the biggest one. Talk about shots fired - Scott Mansfield said "shots fired" in the GoTime Slack channel. Shots fired happened when Google yesterday released Grumpy, which is a Go backend to a Python interpreter, and holy cow, t... |
**Mark Bates:** Yeah, that project looks insanely good. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** It does. I know that it's not even close to code complete. There's a lot of the Python standard library that's missing, but holy cow... It's fast, it's really fast, and it already works for several cases of Python apps, so if you've got Python code that you're looking to make fast, you can run it wi... |
**Mark Bates:** Admittedly, they did cut a few corners... No C extensions and no global interpreter lock, which is actually a good thing. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Well yeah, you don't want the global interpreter lock. C extensions - yeah, I don't know... |
**Mark Bates:** Yeah, that was always a problem with the alternative Ruby versions - they all struggled supporting C extensions, and because of that, people struggled to use them. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yes. We should get Evan Phoenix and Charlie Nutter on here and talk about all of the people that are building alternative Rubys and we could just have a big crying festival. \[laughter\] |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Is Python one of the approved or supported languages at Google? I think there are five of them. |
**Mark Bates:** It is, yeah. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I think it's one of the primary, actually. If I recall, I think YouTube is a lot of Python. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** So is that why they did this? Because I don't think this will necessarily increase Go adoption. I don't think that's why they did this. |
**Mark Bates:** \[32:01\] No, that's not... If you read the blog post, they did it in order to get better performance out of their Python without having to rewrite all of the Python apps in something like Go. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Gotcha. |
**Erik St. Martin:** So almost for the same reasons of like a HipHop VM to PHP or something like that, where rather than having to make that transition, it's just easier to write something to make your code run faster. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I think it's just a tacit admission that Python is slow and their developers can't be taught. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Ouch! \[laughter\] |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I was waiting for the laughter. There was none. Alright, fine. |
**Mark Bates:** Even I was silent on that. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, that was like, "Whoa, shots fired for real." \[laughter\] It's hard to change the wheels on a moving bus, is the saying, right? |
**Mark Bates:** Very hard, right. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Absolutely. So Grumpy sounds very exciting. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Yeah, so we've actually got like a couple of big things to talk about this week. So it is after the first of the year, which means GopherCon 2017 CFP has been opened, along with registration. That's huge! I'm really looking forward to GopherCon this year. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Do I understand it correctly that the CFP closes at the end of January? |
**Brian Ketelsen:** That's correct. |
**Erik St. Martin:** We've toyed with this, and one of the times we gave everybody 90 days to write a proposal, and what we found was everybody submitted their proposal in the last 48 hours. So then we gave everybody a month, and everybody submits their proposal in the last 48 hours. \[laughter\] So it doesn't really m... |
There's three types of things you can submit for: keynote session or plenary session, that will be in the main hall, kind of directed towards everybody; tutorial sessions, that will be kind of like a more direct group of people you're speaking to with similar interests... And then we actually opened it up for workshops... |
The dates of GopherCon: 13th and 14th July are the main talk days; 15th - we typically used to call this Hack Day, we're now calling it Community Day, because I think it's a lot more in line with the spirit of the day. The Go team has continued to increase their presence there. Last year we had this really cool communi... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I think we decided that we're not gonna let Mark Bates MC anything... |
**Mark Bates:** What?! \[laughter\] |
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