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**Brian Ketelsen:** Okay, that is embarrassing. I probably wouldn't have told anybody that. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I know. But I never did it again, though. |
**Erik St. Martin:** I've done similar things though, too. I was building a CNI plugin for Kubernetes, which is the container networking interface, to basically control the networking interfaces that pop up in the container, and their IPs and all that stuff, and I couldn't figure out - it was at least a day, maybe a da... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** \[47:58\] That's not as bad as developing on a remote Linux box and then opening a local host, calling it 8080 and wondering why your web server isn't started. \[laughter\] |
**Mark Bates:** Oh, I can beat that. I have had Vim open and in my file finder I have deleted the folder, and I've been editing in the trash folder. \[laughter\] |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Oh, man... The pain. |
**Mark Bates:** It's happened to everybody. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I feel better now. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Those are those days where you're like, "Am I really qualified to do what I do?" |
**Brian Ketelsen:** The answer is always no... A resounding no. |
**Mark Bates:** Those are the days I just get up and watch Police Academy. \[laughter\] Just all of them, back-to-back, even the non-Guttenberg ones. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** No... Those are terrible. So my \#FreeSoftwareFriday shout out is for Buffalo. Even though it's topical today, it really has changed how I look at web development in Go. I didn't use to think that web development in Go was fun, even though I typically consider myself a Go apologist and I said, "Oh, ... |
**Mark Bates:** Thank you, Brian. I feel exactly the same way. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Sounds like that guy will be getting into GopherCon after all... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Nope. \[laughter\] Pictures at the door. |
**Erik St. Martin:** He's got, wait, what's our countdown here, 189 days to redeem himself. \[laughter\] |
**Mark Bates:** Yeah, I'll have to grow a beard, dye my hair... |
**Erik St. Martin:** Then we might let him in on good behavior... |
**Mark Bates:** I was gonna tell everybody I'm Cory LaNou, and then I'll definitely not get in, I guess... |
**Erik St. Martin:** No, he's invited. |
**Mark Bates:** Oh, whatever. |
**Erik St. Martin:** So did you have anybody you wanted to give a shout out to, Mark? I know you like the shoulders of giants. |
**Mark Bates:** I was actually gonna point people at my Shoulders of Giants file because there is too many people to thank for all the great work that they've done, not just for Buffalo, but just in general. Everybody who's committed to Gorilla, people like Fatih, for all the work he's done in the community, and Dave C... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Oh, you have to. |
**Mark Bates:** Yeah. There's just so many... Just go there and find all those people and say thank you to them, because they do great work. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Awesome. |
**Erik St. Martin:** So you actually brought up mine in yours... I'm actually gonna thank a person, which is Dave Cheney. Many of us have learned a lot about the language through a lot of his blog posts, but he participates I think in a lot of stuff that people don't even really know. He's constantly behind the scenes ... |
He's the program chair for GopherCon - the great programs that we have at the conference are largely thanks to him and all the work that he does in his spare time there, so I think we can't give Dave enough props for all that he does in the Go community. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Even if he's Australian. |
**Erik St. Martin:** Especially if he's Australian. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** Yeah, Dave is awesome. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Somebody on Slack mentioned that the errors package should be in standard library. I've been begging for that ever since it came out, and I think we need to start an actual movement and just get it to happen, because it's completely compatible with the errors package in standard library; there is no... |
**Mark Bates:** I one hundred percent absolutely agree. Not having stack traces and errors seems like a bit of an oversight, and being able to have those back because of Dave Cheney is amazing. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yes. Thanks, Dave. We love you. |
**Mark Bates:** \[52:00\] I would say I'd buy him a steak, but I've already done that. I have one more shout out I'd like to make, because it just dawned on me... The Octotree plugin for Safari, Chrome, Firefox. If you haven't seen it, it's amazing. It's a plugin, and on the left side of your screen you have a file tre... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Oh, I have seen that. I wanna say that I did it right away, right after they released it, and it crashed Chrome for me. Is it more stable now? |
**Mark Bates:** I've been using it for ages and it's amazing. I honestly can't imagine using GitHub without it. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** That is awesome. |
**Erik St. Martin:** That is really cool. |
**Mark Bates:** It's a non-Go shout out, but I was looking at something on GitHub just now and I was like, "Oh my god, I need to shout out to this." |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Yeah, \#FreeSoftwareFriday doesn't have to be just Go." |
**Mark Bates:** Exactly. |
**Erik St. Martin:** We've thanked many a tools that we use on a daily basis. |
**Brian Ketelsen:** Who are you calling a tool? \[laughter\] This show just went from PG to PG-13. |
**Mark Bates:** Excuse me just one second... I will leave when I am damn well, good and ready to leave. \[laughter\] No, I haven't bought anything, and I don't plan on buying anything. How's that?! \[laughter\] I'm on with Casey Affleck. Yeah, CASEY! Not Ben. Yeah, the talented one. \[laughter\] Yes, thank you. Sorry a... |
**Brian Ketelsen:** I'd say that wraps our show. Yeah, that's a wrap, kids. \[laughter\] |
**Erik St. Martin:** So people are gonna leave this episode with either the feeling that they've listened to comedy hour, or just completely confused. |
**Carlisia Thompson:** I don't know if we lowered or raised the bar by a lot, but it's one of the two. |
**Mark Bates:** The bar is typically lower whenever I enter a room... I tend to bring a screeching halt to anything I'm a part of, so yeah... |
**Erik St. Martin:** If this episode is one of your favorites, thank Mark. If it's one of your least favorite, just know that whenever Mark shows up, he brings the collective intelligence of the room down. \[laughter\] |
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